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Nonka nonpoenare.

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Nonka nonpoenare.

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Nonka nonpoenare.

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Non cano può nare, può nare.

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The ancestral peoples of the Amazon
sensed the arrival of the invaders.

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Anticipating an offensive that
It would devastate our community.

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In preparation for this big change,
they put the profound teachings

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mystics to sleep,
hiding them from invaders to

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preserve them for future times.

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Just like you bury a seed deep down
of the earth,

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knowing that the time will come
in which it will bear fruit again.

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That's how it was in my father's time
that indigenous elders spread the

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news through the mountains,
through the forest, which had reached the

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moment of an ancient prophecy being fulfilled.

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This prophecy spoke of a time when
people from two very different cultures

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whether they would go to share and learn.

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This culture was called
of Okondô and the eagle.

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Okondô's gift is the power of the heart
and the power of the eagle, the power of the mind.

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They are two halves of a whole

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over time they separated.

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So, while some
vive intimamente conectado à terra e outro

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vive como se a terra
não tivesse importância.

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A águia deve visitar o condor,
o condor deve visitar a águia.

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Jesus, I see you.

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How are you?

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Justin, tell us about your work
and what it means to you.

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Sure.
So I'm Dr. Justin Dwyer.

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I work in palliative medicine,
dealing with people who are dying,

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and it's one of those things where people
often wonder, you know,

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must be so depressing.

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But actually, I have to say,
it's the most life-affirming environment

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I've ever worked in because
it's all about living.

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Now, we all know that we're going to die,
but actually being told it is happening

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now,
you have an illness now

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that is going to kill you,
produces, I think, a much more raw

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visceral process of self-examination
that normally brings up

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a lot of turmoil and despair.

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And so we're really trying to find ways
for people to hold onto

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their identity and their connections
as they let this happen to themselves,

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because that's all you can do, right?

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You can't stop yourself from dying.

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How low is that, Tess?

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Yes, this is Tess.

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Oh, g'day Tess, it's Justin Dwyer and Marg
Ross from St Vincent's psilocybin trial.

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Hi, Tess.

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Yes, our trial through St Vincent's is
the first psychedelic-assisted

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therapy trial in Australia.

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And what we're looking at is how
psychological therapy

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delivered pretty intensely with a dose
of psilocybin as part of the therapy.

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We're looking at how that might
change people's experience of dying.

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Can you do that following week?

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Because we could— we've got
wriggle room for about 7 days.

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I can push.

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Mark's someone who's always thought a bit
outside the box,

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and she went to a conference where this
work with peak psychedelic experience was

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presented, then came and approached me
and asked if I would, you know,

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as head of our unit, support
a research program examining exactly this.

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So psilocybin is a psychedelic compound
that is typically found in the psilocybe

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genre of magic mushrooms.

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And the classic psychedelics
seem to be able to occasion

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mystical type experience,
or quite deeply spiritual type

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experiences,
or the transcendent, if you like.

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So these experiences of awe.

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Miquel.

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Brian, he cried a lot of tears during it,
actually, and mostly there were tears

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of joy and awe,

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but he also said some of them are regret

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at the lack of ability to have seen
and to know

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the depth of meaning and embedded divinity

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that he came to see

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through that experience.

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And actually what it did was make
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un-fearful about what came after death.

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He will walk across that bridge,
I know, with great expectancy and joy.

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Yeah.

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Ooh.

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Ooh.

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You know, it really shocked me that what's
sort of come out of it is that people feel

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as though you know,
their whole life has kind of made sense

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in the context of knowing
that they're going to die.

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And even though I've worked in palliative
care, you know, cancer now for a good sort

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of 15 years, I didn't see that one coming.

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Hi.

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Hello.
Thank you.

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I wanted to be part of the trial to

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learn how to deal with my own emotions

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and that I kind of hope, like, to let go
from everything that I'm

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holding inside me.

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And that includes, like, I don't know,
fear of the— I don't know,

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just trying to be constantly strong.

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How are you feeling today?
Are you feeling— Yes, I'm feeling good.

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Yes.
Yes.

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The thing about the psilocybin is that
it doesn't actually put

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anything in your head.

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So it's not like a drug you take and it,
you know, inserts experiences.

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Everything that comes up for you
with the psilocybin, it's yours.

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It's all from inside of you.

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And it takes you to some
extraordinary places.

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But we will be with you the whole time.

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So we just got everything ready,
so headphones, eyeshades,

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we've got a nice heated blanket.

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That's the psilocybin.

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We want it to be easy
and we want the pill to simply

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fall out straight into their hand.

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Um, and it will just tumble down.

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And do you need to put
your arm back under there?

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Okay, here we go.


