1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:14,841 --> 00:01:17,936 And so, in the age of fable... 4 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:19,769 after the floods... 5 00:01:19,846 --> 00:01:20,870 KINGDOM 1 HELL 6 00:01:21,648 --> 00:01:23,844 there appeared on earth... 7 00:01:24,418 --> 00:01:25,784 men armed for extermination. 8 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:32,737 They're horrible here... 9 00:03:33,046 --> 00:03:35,413 with their obsession for cutting off heads. 10 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:40,519 It's amazing that anyone's survived. 11 00:06:36,496 --> 00:06:38,294 "Forgive us our trespasses... 12 00:06:39,466 --> 00:06:42,026 "as we forgive those who trespass against us." 13 00:06:46,506 --> 00:06:48,805 As we forgive them and no differently. 14 00:07:57,644 --> 00:08:00,204 As we forgive them and no differently. 15 00:08:39,085 --> 00:08:42,487 We can consider death in two ways... 16 00:08:46,326 --> 00:08:48,659 the impossible of the possible... 17 00:08:52,499 --> 00:08:54,832 or the possible of the impossible. 18 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:59,662 Now, "I" is someone else. 19 00:09:56,729 --> 00:10:00,564 KINGDOM 2 PURGATORY 20 00:10:52,952 --> 00:10:55,888 Are you here for the European Literary Encounters? 21 00:10:56,422 --> 00:10:57,685 I thought you made films. 22 00:10:58,091 --> 00:11:01,459 I was asked to give a talk to the students. 23 00:11:01,728 --> 00:11:02,923 On what? 24 00:11:03,429 --> 00:11:05,057 The text and the image. 25 00:11:09,936 --> 00:11:11,962 So, what's going on? 26 00:11:12,038 --> 00:11:14,439 The flight from Zagreb is late. 27 00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:21,437 If your father was an Egyptian Communist... 28 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:23,608 he must have known Henri Curiel. 29 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:27,148 They even followed the same itinerary. 30 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:29,587 Your father died? 31 00:11:29,656 --> 00:11:30,646 He died, yes. 32 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:32,754 Not the way Curiel did. 33 00:11:32,825 --> 00:11:34,293 Not a violent death. 34 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,158 So, same itinerary, meaning what? 35 00:11:36,229 --> 00:11:38,391 Egyptian, middle-class background. 36 00:11:38,498 --> 00:11:41,832 Happy childhood. Jesuit education. 37 00:11:42,101 --> 00:11:45,071 Then, exposure to Egypt's poverty... 38 00:11:45,171 --> 00:11:48,107 and the same revolt against rabbis, king, parents.... 39 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:50,803 Is that when he came to France? 40 00:11:50,877 --> 00:11:52,311 He was partisan. 41 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,581 He got arrested. 42 00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:57,446 He spent a year and a half in prison. 43 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:58,711 And your mother? 44 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:00,319 She was more a Zionist. 45 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:03,220 I'm going to go see what's happening with Air Bosnia. 46 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:06,784 She took the last Cairo-Jerusalem train. 47 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:12,294 She arrived in Jerusalem in 1948 by train? 48 00:12:12,832 --> 00:12:14,994 And those on the Exodus, by boat? 49 00:12:15,134 --> 00:12:16,625 There's exodus and Exodus. 50 00:12:18,805 --> 00:12:22,264 So you went to school in Israel? 51 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:24,402 No, we left Israel very early on. 52 00:12:25,011 --> 00:12:28,413 My father loved France. 53 00:12:28,481 --> 00:12:30,211 I went to school in France. 54 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:33,912 And your military service? 55 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:35,784 I did it in Israel. 56 00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:38,688 - You went back? - Yes. 57 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,624 - With your mother? - No, alone. 58 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,324 And after your military service? 59 00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:47,730 Strangely, during my service I realized how French I had become. 60 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,661 So I went back to France. 61 00:12:50,737 --> 00:12:52,330 You found work? 62 00:12:52,538 --> 00:12:53,699 Interpreter. 63 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:56,902 French, Hebrew, Russian, Spanish, Portuguese. 64 00:12:57,510 --> 00:12:58,978 What brings you here? 65 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:02,506 I'm working for the Literary Encounters. 66 00:13:03,049 --> 00:13:06,679 But also checking up on my niece. 67 00:13:07,353 --> 00:13:10,790 Her mother, my sister, asked me to check on her. 68 00:13:11,157 --> 00:13:12,147 I think they're here. 69 00:13:44,223 --> 00:13:46,124 Are you sure Mr. Darwish is here? 70 00:13:46,626 --> 00:13:49,960 You are in the same hotel. 71 00:14:02,108 --> 00:14:04,304 Mr. Goytisolo wants to see the library. 72 00:14:04,377 --> 00:14:07,108 Speaks French, Russian, Spanish, Portuguese. 73 00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:09,279 Before his talk. 74 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:10,578 What's it about? 75 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:14,052 The forest of writings. 76 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:28,763 Who are those people? 77 00:14:28,935 --> 00:14:30,631 The SFOR. 78 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:33,472 Germans today. Americans tomorrow. 79 00:14:33,539 --> 00:14:36,441 Next week: Russians, French, Italians. 80 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:41,007 So, Miss Lerner, ever been stung by a dead bee? 81 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:44,281 That's enough. 82 00:14:56,162 --> 00:14:58,722 I was wondering... 83 00:14:58,798 --> 00:15:02,599 why aren't revolutions started by the most humane people? 84 00:15:04,237 --> 00:15:08,607 Because humane people don't start revolutions. 85 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:11,504 They start libraries. 86 00:15:12,011 --> 00:15:13,445 And cemeteries. 87 00:15:28,227 --> 00:15:30,594 When Mr. Goytisolo was here in 1993... 88 00:15:30,797 --> 00:15:32,925 the Serbian front lines were here. 89 00:15:35,668 --> 00:15:38,263 And they shelled from up there? 90 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:41,097 It was easy. 91 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:51,273 Killing a man to defend an idea... 92 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:53,910 isn't defending an idea, it's killing a man. 93 00:15:56,789 --> 00:16:00,123 When it's all over, nothing is the same. 94 00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:05,524 Violence leaves a deep scar. 95 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:08,999 A trace of the oblivion always remains. 96 00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:14,397 The trust in the world that terror destroys is irretrievable. 97 00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:18,844 To see your fellow man turn on you... 98 00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:22,746 breeds a feeling of deep-rooted horror. 99 00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:26,445 Violence severs the lifeline. 100 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:29,445 A survivor is not only changed, he's someone else. 101 00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:34,151 The dream of survival becomes a nightmare for he who is on the journey. 102 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:37,296 Each of us can become a danger for others. 103 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,757 The body is a potential weapon. 104 00:16:43,769 --> 00:16:47,297 Knowing where we can be harmed, each of us can harm another. 105 00:17:26,812 --> 00:17:28,678 I know him! 106 00:17:30,783 --> 00:17:32,149 It's Pierre Bergounioux. 107 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:34,778 We went to school together. 108 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:36,720 Show him into the manager's. 109 00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:40,820 Yes, Mr. Ambassador. 110 00:17:56,709 --> 00:17:58,905 It's Mr. Bergounioux. 111 00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:01,871 The ambassador wants to see him. 112 00:18:09,822 --> 00:18:12,087 The Israeli journalist is waiting. 113 00:18:12,158 --> 00:18:14,491 They've been waiting for 8,000 years. 114 00:18:15,361 --> 00:18:16,351 And you? 115 00:18:16,662 --> 00:18:18,290 I'm presenting my book: 116 00:18:19,165 --> 00:18:21,634 From Homer to Faulkner. 117 00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:29,564 Tell me. 118 00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:32,508 Do writers know what they're talking about? 119 00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:36,375 Do they really know? 120 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:39,285 Of course not. 121 00:18:46,425 --> 00:18:51,159 Homer knew nothing about battlefields, slaughters, victories, or glory. 122 00:18:51,831 --> 00:18:53,993 He is blind and bored. 123 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,895 He has to settle for recounting what others did. 124 00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:00,762 Possibly. 125 00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:03,876 There's a contradiction. 126 00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:07,971 Those who act never have the ability... 127 00:19:08,047 --> 00:19:11,074 to say or think adequately about what they do. 128 00:19:11,884 --> 00:19:15,821 Conversely, those who tell stories... 129 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,618 don't know what they're talking about. 130 00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:19,882 Remember Mao Zedong. 131 00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:24,852 The President. 132 00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:54,776 Grivas, the car. 133 00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:01,758 Where's my scarf? 134 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,627 What about me? 135 00:21:05,664 --> 00:21:10,068 A letter from my grandfather. Not for the ambassador, for the man. 136 00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:12,668 I don't understand. Tomorrow, miss. 137 00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:22,710 Which "man"? 138 00:21:25,484 --> 00:21:28,750 Lyons. 1943. The Gestapo. 139 00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:33,653 Come with me. 140 00:21:37,363 --> 00:21:38,729 Let's go. 141 00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:47,797 Why Sarajevo? 142 00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:52,206 Because of Palestine, and because I live in Tel Aviv. 143 00:21:53,913 --> 00:21:57,281 I wanted to see a place where reconciliation seemed possible. 144 00:21:58,384 --> 00:22:01,081 They may not run my article. 145 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,748 Possibly. 146 00:22:02,955 --> 00:22:05,322 Anyway, it's for myself. 147 00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:10,095 Who's that next to Kafka in your office? 148 00:22:10,296 --> 00:22:11,958 Someone like you, maybe. 149 00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:14,493 Hannah Arendt. 150 00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:18,869 Her friend Sholem said she looked like 12 synagogues. 151 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,365 Under the Ottoman Empire... 152 00:22:22,808 --> 00:22:26,336 the sitting room was rented to what wasn't yet called the Jewish Agency. 153 00:22:27,546 --> 00:22:30,414 When I arrived, they hung her portrait in homage. 154 00:22:31,817 --> 00:22:34,685 You should read the articles she wrote in the 1950s. 155 00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:37,689 They're enlightening. 156 00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:44,021 Your grandfather.... 157 00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:48,666 In 1943, when you were a student, you hid another young man... 158 00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:50,300 and his fiancée. 159 00:22:50,669 --> 00:22:53,161 They were wanted by the Vichy police. 160 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:56,206 My mother was born in your... 161 00:22:59,178 --> 00:23:02,114 in your garret in 1945... 162 00:23:02,982 --> 00:23:04,644 then they emigrated. 163 00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:09,186 Later, you were awarded the title of "The Righteous." 164 00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:11,953 But you turned it down. 165 00:23:12,958 --> 00:23:15,052 You were applying to Normale Sup'... 166 00:23:15,127 --> 00:23:18,393 and you said it was normal. 167 00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:21,122 Possibly. 168 00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:25,933 Now we want to organize a meeting. 169 00:23:26,805 --> 00:23:29,969 Not with the French diplomat, but with a free man... 170 00:23:30,376 --> 00:23:32,140 if you've remained one. 171 00:23:32,845 --> 00:23:36,043 Not a just conversation, just a conversation. 172 00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:39,746 No military or political solutions. 173 00:23:39,818 --> 00:23:42,879 Just basic problems. 174 00:23:44,323 --> 00:23:46,815 Psychology and ethics, nothing else. 175 00:23:49,628 --> 00:23:52,393 Even if I live in New York most of the time... 176 00:23:53,499 --> 00:23:55,195 I have constant nightmares. 177 00:23:55,734 --> 00:23:58,033 But a friend from Haifa says, when he dreams... 178 00:23:58,504 --> 00:24:02,271 he dreams not about the enemy, but about himself. 179 00:24:03,575 --> 00:24:05,567 Not about Israel, but Palestine. 180 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:11,747 Can we start there? 181 00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:14,112 With the land... 182 00:24:15,321 --> 00:24:16,687 with the promise... 183 00:24:17,656 --> 00:24:19,124 then the atonement. 184 00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,358 Just a conversation. 185 00:24:25,431 --> 00:24:27,423 - Good luck. - To you, too. 186 00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:31,628 In the Resistance, did the Germans inhabit your dreams... 187 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:33,432 or only France and the French? 188 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:37,505 And that dead language we brought back to life? 189 00:24:37,643 --> 00:24:39,441 Is it really living? 190 00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:43,212 And your French, which you're slowly losing... 191 00:24:43,282 --> 00:24:45,080 grammatically, anyway. 192 00:24:47,853 --> 00:24:51,790 Then we publish the conversation. Even Haaretz won't run it. 193 00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:54,417 - It's not a bad paper. - They won't run it. 194 00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:58,225 I'm just a stringer. But I know them. 195 00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:00,560 They want to, but they can't. 196 00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:04,496 They dream of Palestine, not Israel. 197 00:25:06,905 --> 00:25:07,895 It's too late. 198 00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:13,972 My grandfather has a rich friend. We can print 100,000 copies, a million... 199 00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:17,574 to hear a simple conversation between two friends. 200 00:25:17,649 --> 00:25:21,313 A dialogue no one has, not even in his heart... 201 00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:23,653 because that heart is alone. 202 00:25:24,656 --> 00:25:28,388 A young German Catholic woman said in 1943: 203 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,963 "The dream of the individual is to be two. 204 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:36,867 "The dream of the State is to be one." 205 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:41,807 They cut her head off. 206 00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:10,236 Forgive the confusion. The letter is clearer. 207 00:26:10,702 --> 00:26:12,796 I'm at the Holiday Inn. 208 00:26:12,871 --> 00:26:15,238 Tomorrow I photograph the Mostar Bridge. 209 00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:18,943 Grandfather's friend has a private jet. It wouldn't take long. 210 00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:21,712 - I'd have to resign. - Why not? 211 00:26:23,382 --> 00:26:25,180 I'll have to think it over. 212 00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:27,183 That's normal. 213 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,615 The world in which we live... 214 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:35,545 desperately needs, in order to subsist... 215 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:40,415 the existence of the contemplated... 216 00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:42,217 and poets... 217 00:27:42,628 --> 00:27:45,655 like Valente and Lezama Lima. 218 00:28:18,664 --> 00:28:22,226 Light and darkness... 219 00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:27,205 and the revelation of hidden meaning... 220 00:28:28,073 --> 00:28:32,169 should have attained in our times... 221 00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:34,008 a remarkable identity. 222 00:29:18,156 --> 00:29:21,957 Nature is a temple where living colonnades... 223 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:25,895 sometimes let out confused phrases. 224 00:29:26,865 --> 00:29:30,996 Man wanders among symbols in those glades... 225 00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:32,469 which watch him... 226 00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:36,465 with familiar gazes. 227 00:30:09,508 --> 00:30:12,171 As our age has endless destructive force... 228 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:14,371 it now needs a revolution... 229 00:30:14,446 --> 00:30:17,610 of a comparable creative force... 230 00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:19,117 that reinforces memory... 231 00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:22,154 clarifies dreams, and gives substance to images. 232 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,886 ...that reserves for the dead a better fate... 233 00:31:07,132 --> 00:31:10,034 gives ephemera a splendid sense of its transparency... 234 00:31:10,268 --> 00:31:11,964 and escorts the living... 235 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:14,905 on a safer, more serene crossing of darkness. 236 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:15,512 Light... 237 00:34:15,587 --> 00:34:19,615 is the first visible animal of the invisible. 238 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,717 You never answer. 239 00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:56,588 But I will say nothing. 240 00:34:58,396 --> 00:35:00,024 What I say is nothing. 241 00:35:00,966 --> 00:35:03,026 See to it that I can speak. 242 00:35:04,169 --> 00:35:06,798 Any idea how I can go about it? 243 00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:11,175 Convince me that you hear me. 244 00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:13,204 Talk to me. 245 00:35:14,646 --> 00:35:17,115 How can I talk if you don't hear me? 246 00:36:46,638 --> 00:36:48,334 Mahmoud Darwish... 247 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,907 you once wrote that he who writes his story... 248 00:36:52,977 --> 00:36:55,105 inherits the land of that story. 249 00:36:58,416 --> 00:37:02,649 Do you not believe in the connection that the Israeli people have with this land? 250 00:37:04,422 --> 00:37:08,018 You say there's no more room for Homer... 251 00:37:08,626 --> 00:37:11,755 and you are the Trojans' bard... 252 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:14,322 and you love the vanquished. 253 00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:17,334 You're talking like a Jew. 254 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:29,647 Nowadays, that's seen as something positive. 255 00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:33,410 Truth has two faces. 256 00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:38,351 We heard a story. 257 00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:43,991 Sometimes we also heard the Trojan victim speaking... 258 00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,629 through the mouth of the Greek Euripides. 259 00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:54,438 I'm looking for a Trojan poet. 260 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,565 Troy didn't tell its story. 261 00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:00,636 I ask myself... 262 00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:04,647 does a land... 263 00:38:05,383 --> 00:38:08,478 that has great poets... 264 00:38:08,987 --> 00:38:13,482 have the right to conquer a people? 265 00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:19,856 Is the absence of poetry... 266 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:24,292 sufficient reason to defeat them? 267 00:38:29,073 --> 00:38:33,704 Is poetry patriotic? 268 00:38:35,713 --> 00:38:38,615 Can a people be strong... 269 00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:41,180 without having its own poetry? 270 00:38:45,623 --> 00:38:47,455 I was a child of a people... 271 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:51,694 that had not been recognized until then. 272 00:38:53,932 --> 00:38:58,427 And I wanted to speak in the name of the absentee... 273 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,029 in the name of the Trojan people. 274 00:39:02,707 --> 00:39:06,041 There's more inspiration and humanity... 275 00:39:07,312 --> 00:39:11,682 in defeat than there is in victory. 276 00:39:15,086 --> 00:39:19,046 Even in defeat there is poetry. 277 00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:23,023 And probably better poetry. 278 00:39:24,095 --> 00:39:28,191 If I belonged to the victor's camp... 279 00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:32,897 I'd demonstrate my support for the victims. 280 00:39:34,606 --> 00:39:39,135 Do you know why we Palestinians are famous? 281 00:39:40,411 --> 00:39:43,939 Because you are our enemy. 282 00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:48,679 The interest is in you... 283 00:39:49,087 --> 00:39:50,988 not in me. 284 00:39:58,096 --> 00:40:01,260 So we have the misfortune... 285 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,601 of having Israel as an enemy... 286 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:10,236 because she has strong allies. 287 00:40:11,342 --> 00:40:14,801 So many we can't even count. 288 00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:18,911 And we have the good fortune... 289 00:40:18,983 --> 00:40:22,681 of having Israel as our enemy. 290 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:26,054 Because Jews are the center of interest of the world. 291 00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:32,523 That's why you've brought us defeat and renown. 292 00:40:36,901 --> 00:40:38,802 You defeated us. 293 00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:42,298 But you gave us renown. 294 00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:47,712 We are your propaganda ministry. 295 00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:53,044 The world is interested in you... 296 00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:56,517 not us. 297 00:40:57,655 --> 00:41:02,525 I have no illusions. 298 00:41:07,365 --> 00:41:11,063 In Palestine as a Metaphor... 299 00:41:11,836 --> 00:41:15,534 you write: "If they defeat us in poetry... 300 00:41:15,606 --> 00:41:17,370 "then it's the end." 301 00:41:18,343 --> 00:41:22,678 There was probably an error, for it to be this way. 302 00:41:23,681 --> 00:41:26,515 But there's another meaning: 303 00:41:27,585 --> 00:41:32,455 Neither a victim nor a defeat... 304 00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,649 can be gauged in military terms. 305 00:41:44,635 --> 00:41:46,297 The Turkish Prime Minister... 306 00:41:46,371 --> 00:41:49,603 once compared minarets to bayonets. 307 00:41:49,674 --> 00:41:53,441 I bear the obedient language like a cloud. 308 00:42:56,607 --> 00:42:59,304 Communism existed once. 309 00:42:59,944 --> 00:43:03,540 Communism existed once, for two times 45 minutes... 310 00:43:04,348 --> 00:43:05,816 at Wembley Stadium... 311 00:43:05,883 --> 00:43:09,684 when Budapest's Honved beat England 6 to 3. 312 00:43:10,488 --> 00:43:12,582 The English played individually... 313 00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:14,588 the Hungarians played together. 314 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:32,404 Where do you think this photo was taken? 315 00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:47,281 No, Richmond, Virginia. 1865. 316 00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:51,891 The American Civil War. North against South. 317 00:43:53,831 --> 00:43:56,995 It was a peasant girl during the Second Empire... 318 00:43:57,368 --> 00:43:59,769 who claimed to have seen the Virgin Mary. 319 00:44:00,371 --> 00:44:02,306 They asked what she looked like. 320 00:44:02,507 --> 00:44:04,999 Bernadette said: "I can't describe her." 321 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:08,971 So the mother superior and the bishop showed her... 322 00:44:10,948 --> 00:44:14,009 plates of great religious paintings. 323 00:44:14,252 --> 00:44:17,552 Raphael's Virgin, Murillo's. 324 00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:21,553 Each time, Bernadette said: "That's not her." 325 00:44:23,394 --> 00:44:26,364 And suddenly, the Virgin of Cambrai came up. 326 00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:28,889 An icon. 327 00:44:30,301 --> 00:44:33,237 Bernadette fell to her knees: "It's her, Your Grace." 328 00:44:34,105 --> 00:44:35,733 No movement. 329 00:44:35,940 --> 00:44:38,603 No depth, no artifice. 330 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:40,276 The sacred. 331 00:44:51,455 --> 00:44:53,481 Yes, the image is joy. 332 00:44:53,558 --> 00:44:55,823 But beside it, lies the void. 333 00:44:56,327 --> 00:45:00,321 All the power of an image can only be expressed through it. 334 00:45:02,667 --> 00:45:04,226 They say our language... 335 00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:08,305 arbitrarily divides up things in reality. 336 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:13,142 And they say this as if it were our fault. 337 00:45:23,621 --> 00:45:27,558 You may have studied Racine's Phaedra in French. 338 00:45:32,863 --> 00:45:36,265 "When you have learnt my crime, my fate, my shame... 339 00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:40,565 "I'll die no less but with a guiltier name." 340 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:55,110 Try to see. 341 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:59,656 Try to imagine. 342 00:46:06,397 --> 00:46:09,834 In the first case, you say: Look at that. 343 00:46:14,238 --> 00:46:17,140 In the second, you say: Close your eyes. 344 00:46:26,917 --> 00:46:30,752 The shot and reverse shot are basics of film grammar. 345 00:46:35,226 --> 00:46:39,095 But look closely at these shots from the Hawks movie... 346 00:46:43,367 --> 00:46:47,964 you'll see that it's the same thing twice. 347 00:46:52,443 --> 00:46:55,242 That's because the director is incapable... 348 00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:58,744 of seeing the difference between a man and a woman. 349 00:47:04,922 --> 00:47:07,892 That are alike. 350 00:47:12,797 --> 00:47:15,323 For instance, two pictures... 351 00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:18,796 of the same moment in history. 352 00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:29,977 Then you see that truth has two faces. 353 00:47:30,581 --> 00:47:32,311 In my opinion... 354 00:47:33,484 --> 00:47:37,114 it's because those who do the books are mere accountants. 355 00:47:38,956 --> 00:47:41,516 Besides, Balzac writes... 356 00:47:41,592 --> 00:47:44,858 about entries in the Great Ledger. 357 00:47:45,096 --> 00:47:46,496 The Tables of the Law. 358 00:47:47,365 --> 00:47:49,197 The Holy Scriptures. 359 00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:51,293 The People of the Book. 360 00:47:57,875 --> 00:48:00,174 jew 361 00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:09,444 muslim 362 00:48:15,326 --> 00:48:17,227 For example, in 1948... 363 00:48:17,294 --> 00:48:18,956 the Israelites walked in the water... 364 00:48:19,263 --> 00:48:21,027 to reach the Holy Land. 365 00:48:21,699 --> 00:48:24,863 The Palestinians walked in the water to drown. 366 00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:28,996 Shot and reverse shot. 367 00:48:35,546 --> 00:48:38,106 The Jews become the stuff of fiction... 368 00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:41,144 the Palestinians, of documentary. 369 00:49:01,405 --> 00:49:03,840 We say the facts speak for themselves. 370 00:49:04,175 --> 00:49:06,576 But Celine said: 371 00:49:07,445 --> 00:49:09,380 "Sadly, not for much longer." 372 00:49:10,748 --> 00:49:13,047 And that was in 1936. 373 00:49:18,722 --> 00:49:21,886 Because the field of text... 374 00:49:22,426 --> 00:49:24,895 had already covered the field of vision. 375 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:31,368 In 1938... 376 00:49:32,036 --> 00:49:36,337 Heisenberg and Borg were walking in the Danish countryside... 377 00:49:36,407 --> 00:49:38,103 talking about physics. 378 00:49:43,581 --> 00:49:46,141 They came to Elsinore Castle. 379 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:49,150 The German scientist said: 380 00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:52,247 "Oh, there's nothing special about this castle!" 381 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,592 The Danish physicist said: 382 00:49:58,729 --> 00:50:03,360 "Yes, but if you say 'Hamlet's castle'... 383 00:50:03,868 --> 00:50:06,064 "then it becomes special." 384 00:50:18,649 --> 00:50:21,983 Elsinore the real, Hamlet the imaginary. 385 00:50:24,121 --> 00:50:25,987 Shot and reverse shot. 386 00:50:26,957 --> 00:50:29,085 Imaginary: certainty. 387 00:50:29,393 --> 00:50:31,328 Reality: uncertainty. 388 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:35,099 The principle of cinema... 389 00:50:35,799 --> 00:50:39,497 go towards the light and shine it on our night. 390 00:50:40,871 --> 00:50:42,134 Our music. 391 00:50:42,506 --> 00:50:44,338 AND DELIVERANCE? 392 00:50:45,776 --> 00:50:49,679 AND VICTORY? 393 00:51:01,992 --> 00:51:06,430 THAT WILL BE MY MARTYRDOM 394 00:51:19,777 --> 00:51:21,905 TONIGHT I WILL BE IN HEAVEN 395 00:51:30,955 --> 00:51:35,916 Can the new little digital cameras save the cinema? 396 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:49,097 Yes, they all died very young. 397 00:53:21,598 --> 00:53:24,625 The bridge was designed under the Ottoman Empire... 398 00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:27,797 in 1566... 399 00:53:27,871 --> 00:53:31,865 by Hajrudin, a student of the great architect Sinan... 400 00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:34,637 in the time of Suleyman the Magnificent. 401 00:53:34,745 --> 00:53:37,977 The city of Mostar was named after it. 402 00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:41,185 In Slavic languages, "most" means "bridge." 403 00:53:44,121 --> 00:53:45,646 We called it the "Old Man"... 404 00:53:45,723 --> 00:53:48,420 as we would a friend or a father. 405 00:53:51,462 --> 00:53:53,556 We would meet on the "Old Man." 406 00:53:56,667 --> 00:53:58,898 The more daring among us... 407 00:53:59,069 --> 00:54:00,970 would dive off the bridge. 408 00:54:01,305 --> 00:54:03,331 The greenest water in the world. 409 00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:38,704 It's not a question of re-establishing tourism... 410 00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:40,472 between the banks of the Neretva. 411 00:54:40,911 --> 00:54:43,471 We must at once restore the past... 412 00:54:44,314 --> 00:54:46,306 and make the future possible. 413 00:54:47,184 --> 00:54:49,380 Combine the pain... 414 00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:51,319 and the guilt. 415 00:54:52,389 --> 00:54:55,291 Two faces and one truth: the bridge. 416 00:54:58,362 --> 00:54:59,955 It seems difficult. 417 00:55:04,701 --> 00:55:07,227 "If the face symbolizes 'Thou shalt not kill'... 418 00:55:08,872 --> 00:55:11,137 "how can we make a face with stones?" 419 00:55:11,708 --> 00:55:14,610 The relationship between me and the Other isn't symmetrical. 420 00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:20,777 At first, the Other matters little... 421 00:55:21,185 --> 00:55:22,380 with respect to me. 422 00:55:25,122 --> 00:55:26,590 That's his business. 423 00:55:27,691 --> 00:55:30,160 For me, he's the one I'm responsible for. 424 00:55:30,594 --> 00:55:33,029 Here, a Muslim and a Croatian. 425 00:55:34,731 --> 00:55:37,223 We are all guilty... 426 00:55:38,068 --> 00:55:40,264 for everything and for everyone. 427 00:55:41,071 --> 00:55:43,267 And myself more than others. 428 00:55:47,110 --> 00:55:49,409 The stones were salvaged in two phases. 429 00:55:49,479 --> 00:55:52,677 In June 1997 and August 1999. 430 00:55:54,384 --> 00:55:57,650 Each stone was identified on a card... 431 00:55:57,788 --> 00:56:00,656 on which each detail was noted. 432 00:56:03,794 --> 00:56:07,128 Its position in the water, its position in the structure... 433 00:56:07,865 --> 00:56:10,232 and a description of each face... 434 00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,394 on which clamps were attached. 435 00:56:18,075 --> 00:56:21,068 It was like rediscovering the origin of language. 436 00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:24,947 You know that before writing was invented at Sumer... 437 00:56:25,315 --> 00:56:28,376 they spoke of the past using the word "after"... 438 00:56:28,952 --> 00:56:31,512 and for the future the word "before." 439 00:56:32,823 --> 00:56:34,257 No, I didn't know. 440 00:57:53,537 --> 00:57:55,005 It is... 441 00:57:55,205 --> 00:57:56,366 like... 442 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,538 an image... 443 00:57:59,443 --> 00:58:01,105 but a distant one. 444 00:58:02,546 --> 00:58:04,811 There are two people side by side. 445 00:58:06,883 --> 00:58:08,749 I'm next to her. 446 00:58:09,619 --> 00:58:11,315 I never saw her before. 447 00:58:11,822 --> 00:58:13,518 I recognize myself. 448 00:58:15,158 --> 00:58:17,525 But I have no memory of all that. 449 00:58:18,595 --> 00:58:20,530 It must be far from here. 450 00:58:21,365 --> 00:58:22,856 Or later on. 451 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,021 I don't give a damn! 452 00:59:05,742 --> 00:59:07,973 The state of our poverty is clearer. 453 00:59:14,851 --> 00:59:18,549 The landscape is strewn with wire, the sky is red with explosions. 454 00:59:20,057 --> 00:59:23,357 As this ruin didn't spare the very notion of culture... 455 00:59:24,127 --> 00:59:26,255 we must boldly dismiss it. 456 00:59:27,731 --> 00:59:29,927 We have to make do with very little. 457 00:59:30,634 --> 00:59:34,230 If the house is already on fire, it's mad to try to save the furniture. 458 00:59:34,805 --> 00:59:38,367 The lucky ones are the defeated. 459 01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:32,255 I don't feel like speaking Russian. 460 01:00:35,932 --> 01:00:37,958 I distrust the Russian language. 461 01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:45,031 In fact, I only regret... 462 01:00:45,976 --> 01:00:49,242 that the powerful notion the Russians have of evil... 463 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,417 alienates them from conscience. This is due to Russian syntax. 464 01:00:55,852 --> 01:00:59,448 It was in case someone was listening. There are still microphones. 465 01:00:59,890 --> 01:01:02,621 If anyone understands me, then I wasn't clear. 466 01:01:05,195 --> 01:01:08,529 "But she didn't feel like she was falling. 467 01:01:09,432 --> 01:01:11,526 "On the contrary, it seemed... 468 01:01:12,068 --> 01:01:16,028 "as if the ground was rising toward her with appalling speed." 469 01:01:20,210 --> 01:01:23,339 Suicide is the only truly serious philosophical problem. 470 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,640 You saying that as a Jew, or as a Frenchwoman? 471 01:01:27,651 --> 01:01:29,381 I don't quite know. 472 01:01:32,923 --> 01:01:34,892 Two things hold me back: 473 01:01:35,392 --> 01:01:38,089 one minor, the other major... 474 01:01:38,161 --> 01:01:40,187 but the minor one is major, too. 475 01:01:41,932 --> 01:01:43,457 What's the minor one? 476 01:01:44,634 --> 01:01:46,102 The pain. 477 01:01:49,005 --> 01:01:50,906 Is it that important? 478 01:01:52,075 --> 01:01:54,442 Can't you kill yourself without pain? 479 01:01:56,546 --> 01:01:59,243 And the second reason, the major one? 480 01:01:59,849 --> 01:02:01,181 The next world. 481 01:02:06,089 --> 01:02:08,422 That's nothing. 482 01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:10,819 Just the next world. 483 01:02:11,962 --> 01:02:14,955 Aren't there people who think about the next world? 484 01:02:15,031 --> 01:02:17,523 They can only judge for themselves. 485 01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:22,335 There will be total liberty when it's the same to live or die. 486 01:02:22,872 --> 01:02:24,238 That's the goal. 487 01:02:25,075 --> 01:02:26,065 Funny goal. 488 01:02:27,677 --> 01:02:30,977 But then it might turn out no one wants to live. 489 01:02:31,047 --> 01:02:32,276 No one. 490 01:02:35,785 --> 01:02:38,380 Anyone can act as if there's no God... 491 01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:41,688 there is nothing... 492 01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:43,727 but no one has ever tried yet. 493 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:46,620 Not true. 494 01:02:46,930 --> 01:02:49,559 Millions have been killed or killed themselves. 495 01:02:49,633 --> 01:02:52,660 Yes, but always for other reasons, always out of terror... 496 01:02:53,036 --> 01:02:54,664 never to kill that terror. 497 01:02:55,372 --> 01:02:56,670 Do you love children? 498 01:02:58,642 --> 01:03:00,372 Then you love life. 499 01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:02,342 Yes, I love life. Why? 500 01:03:02,479 --> 01:03:04,414 But you want to kill yourself. 501 01:03:05,115 --> 01:03:06,549 What's that got to do with it? 502 01:03:06,983 --> 01:03:09,179 Life is one thing, death another. 503 01:03:10,487 --> 01:03:12,854 Life exists and death doesn't. 504 01:03:14,357 --> 01:03:16,087 I see you know your lines. 505 01:03:17,761 --> 01:03:19,161 In Hebrew, too? 506 01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:22,126 We're not tourists. 507 01:03:24,868 --> 01:03:27,702 - What does Akhim think? - He will help me. 508 01:03:28,571 --> 01:03:30,472 Will he go to Jerusalem with you? 509 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,734 No, he'll stay here. We don't agree. 510 01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:34,209 But he'll help me. 511 01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:40,174 I go back to Paris Wednesday. The meetings are over. 512 01:03:41,484 --> 01:03:42,474 Good luck, Olga. 513 01:03:42,585 --> 01:03:43,575 Yes, Uncle Ramos. 514 01:03:44,254 --> 01:03:45,950 Call when you like. 515 01:03:47,257 --> 01:03:49,624 Yes, that's the definition. 516 01:03:49,726 --> 01:03:51,786 We are incapable of liberating ourselves. 517 01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:56,996 We shot a video, if you want a copy. Where're you staying? 518 01:03:57,867 --> 01:04:01,702 Give it to Rusmir, he'll get it to me. I stay till Saturday. 519 01:04:01,771 --> 01:04:02,795 Champagne. 520 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,361 We're incapable of freeing ourselves... 521 01:04:26,629 --> 01:04:28,757 and we call that democracy. 522 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,634 For Claude Lefort, since modern democracies... 523 01:04:34,371 --> 01:04:38,934 instituted politics as a separate activity and field of thought... 524 01:04:39,008 --> 01:04:41,910 modern democracies are prone to totalitarianism. 525 01:04:51,688 --> 01:04:53,179 I'd say the same. 526 01:04:54,157 --> 01:04:57,958 I only believe stories whose witnesses would have their throats cut. 527 01:05:00,230 --> 01:05:02,893 Victim or criminal, there's no other choice. 528 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,027 One can always avoid being tried as a criminal... 529 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,539 by accusing an ever bigger one... 530 01:05:09,606 --> 01:05:12,735 a monster you're actually the victim of. 531 01:05:13,843 --> 01:05:18,474 The life of man is but a battle for existence with being vanquished the only certainty. 532 01:05:19,382 --> 01:05:22,546 Without getting so cynical. 533 01:05:23,420 --> 01:05:25,184 It's virtually intolerable... 534 01:05:25,321 --> 01:05:28,621 to hear victims without anger or disgust be reduced to this. 535 01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:30,958 Due to, or despite, oneself. 536 01:05:31,394 --> 01:05:34,091 That's why we give the floor to victims... 537 01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:37,396 who are invited to speak as victims. 538 01:05:50,380 --> 01:05:52,349 The world is now split in two... 539 01:05:53,550 --> 01:05:56,611 between those who line up to voice their misery... 540 01:05:58,221 --> 01:06:00,486 and those for whom this public display... 541 01:06:02,225 --> 01:06:05,252 provides a daily dose of moral comfort... 542 01:06:05,695 --> 01:06:07,186 to their domination. 543 01:06:08,298 --> 01:06:11,462 We always discuss the key to the problem, never the lock. 544 01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:15,600 What lies ahead of us now... 545 01:06:17,006 --> 01:06:19,032 is like a story without thought... 546 01:06:19,509 --> 01:06:22,172 as if bequeathed by an impossible will. 547 01:06:24,380 --> 01:06:27,441 More than ever, we're faced with the void. 548 01:08:23,466 --> 01:08:26,595 I wanted to say goodbye, and thank you. 549 01:08:26,836 --> 01:08:29,067 Thank you and goodbye. 550 01:08:29,138 --> 01:08:30,629 She has something to give you. 551 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,708 From Olga. 552 01:08:32,842 --> 01:08:35,937 The film she made with the little camera. 553 01:08:36,646 --> 01:08:37,944 That's nice. 554 01:08:38,615 --> 01:08:40,413 Thank her for me. 555 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,908 I'm calling from Paris. 556 01:09:45,982 --> 01:09:47,575 Ramos Garcia. 557 01:09:51,788 --> 01:09:53,654 Sure, three weeks ago. 558 01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:56,157 Sarajevo. I was translating. 559 01:09:58,161 --> 01:10:01,188 I'm in Paris. Did you watch TVlast night? 560 01:10:02,598 --> 01:10:04,692 Hostages were taken in Jerusalem. 561 01:10:07,303 --> 01:10:08,601 In a cinema. 562 01:10:08,805 --> 01:10:10,899 A French Jewish girl of Russian descent. 563 01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:13,309 She wanted to blow herself up. 564 01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:20,480 It was Olga, I'm sure of it. 565 01:10:22,185 --> 01:10:26,145 You met her one night. She wanted to give you a DVD. It's her. 566 01:10:31,694 --> 01:10:33,287 How do you know? 567 01:10:33,596 --> 01:10:34,894 I'm sure of it. 568 01:10:35,031 --> 01:10:37,728 She gave the audience five minutes to get out. 569 01:10:38,267 --> 01:10:41,328 She said if there was one Israeli who'd die with her... 570 01:10:41,471 --> 01:10:43,736 for peace, not for war, she'd be happy. 571 01:10:44,574 --> 01:10:45,803 Then what? 572 01:10:46,109 --> 01:10:48,578 Everyone left, leaving her alone. 573 01:10:50,813 --> 01:10:52,475 She had a big red shoulder bag. 574 01:10:52,849 --> 01:10:54,977 The marksmen arrived and killed her... 575 01:10:55,284 --> 01:10:58,743 before she could open her bag. It contained only books. 576 01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:52,032 KINGDOM 3 PARADISE 577 01:12:21,437 --> 01:12:23,599 There are two people, side by side. 578 01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:29,674 I'm next to her. 579 01:12:30,646 --> 01:12:32,581 I never saw her before... 580 01:12:33,216 --> 01:12:34,844 but I recognize myself. 581 01:12:36,118 --> 01:12:37,279 It is... 582 01:12:37,854 --> 01:12:39,015 like... 583 01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:41,017 an image. 584 01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:45,985 But a distant one. 585 01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:25,805 Street of No Return 586 01:18:02,178 --> 01:18:04,204 It was a fine, clear day. 587 01:18:05,748 --> 01:18:07,649 You could see a long way off. 588 01:18:07,746 --> 01:18:10,370 But not as far as Olga had gone.