1 00:00:02,002 --> 00:00:06,006 (trippy music) 2 00:00:11,011 --> 00:00:12,580 - [Voiceover] John Griggs heard about this 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,817 movie producer up in LA that had a stash of LSD. 4 00:00:16,917 --> 00:00:19,653 - [Voiceover] It was, like, $35 to $50 a hit 5 00:00:19,753 --> 00:00:25,593 and that was just more than anybody could afford. 6 00:00:25,693 --> 00:00:29,130 John decided him and his friends were gonna 7 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:34,168 rob the house where the LSD was in Hollywood. 8 00:00:37,271 --> 00:00:38,806 - [Voiceover] They took guns and went up there 9 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:41,942 and held this guy up and took his LSD. 10 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:44,978 And they go into Orange County and they took it, 11 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:48,516 and they had deep, spiritual revelations. 12 00:00:48,616 --> 00:00:51,085 They took a lot. 13 00:00:51,185 --> 00:00:52,553 - When John took LSD, 14 00:00:52,653 --> 00:00:54,688 it totally turned him around. 15 00:00:54,788 --> 00:00:56,624 Actually, his first time, 16 00:00:56,724 --> 00:00:58,292 he just started running and running. 17 00:00:58,392 --> 00:00:59,993 And he said he just had to get home 18 00:01:00,094 --> 00:01:02,830 to tell me how much he loved me. 19 00:01:02,930 --> 00:01:04,232 By the time he got home, 20 00:01:04,332 --> 00:01:05,866 it was about three in the morning. 21 00:01:05,966 --> 00:01:08,136 He was completely out of breath 22 00:01:08,236 --> 00:01:11,839 and just, his eyes were wide and crazy. 23 00:01:11,939 --> 00:01:14,842 He just had to tell me how much love he was feeling. 24 00:01:14,942 --> 00:01:17,811 It just pumped and flowed through him 25 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:21,349 and he said he could feel divinity flowin' through him 26 00:01:21,449 --> 00:01:24,518 as he ran, you know, and he had been going totally 27 00:01:24,618 --> 00:01:26,654 in the wrong direction in life. 28 00:01:26,754 --> 00:01:29,690 You hadn't heard any stories like this before, you know? 29 00:01:29,790 --> 00:01:32,226 It just, this was a new one, you know? 30 00:01:32,326 --> 00:01:34,928 This was a new one for planet Earth, you know? 31 00:01:35,028 --> 00:01:39,833 The wake-up call. 32 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:43,837 - LSD was the kind of thing that changed people, 33 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,740 one at a time, individually. 34 00:01:48,776 --> 00:01:53,581 I graduated from high school in 1962. 35 00:01:53,681 --> 00:01:55,249 I went to college, 36 00:01:55,349 --> 00:01:59,587 thought I would be a businessman of some kind 37 00:01:59,687 --> 00:02:02,856 and then LSD came along while I was in college 38 00:02:02,956 --> 00:02:05,092 and that changed everything. 39 00:02:05,193 --> 00:02:08,262 That changed everything. 40 00:02:08,362 --> 00:02:11,732 I started taking philosophy classes 41 00:02:11,832 --> 00:02:15,035 and classes on religion. 42 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:17,805 - Michael was John's friend. 43 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:21,575 Psychedelics is what brought them together. 44 00:02:21,675 --> 00:02:24,478 They became tripping buddies. 45 00:02:24,578 --> 00:02:25,946 - I knew there was something else 46 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:29,717 in this whole acid experience that I needed 47 00:02:29,817 --> 00:02:32,953 to understand more and more and more. 48 00:02:33,053 --> 00:02:36,224 * When I die and they let me to rest 49 00:02:36,324 --> 00:02:39,793 * Gonna go to the place that's the best * 50 00:02:39,893 --> 00:02:43,764 - I started smuggling pot in, actually in '64, 51 00:02:43,864 --> 00:02:46,600 before I ever took psychedelics. 52 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:48,302 At that time I was building surfboards 53 00:02:48,402 --> 00:02:50,671 at a surfboard shop in Laguna Canyon, 54 00:02:50,771 --> 00:02:52,240 but I also supplemented my income 55 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:55,843 by dealing a little weed. 56 00:02:55,943 --> 00:02:59,313 If you knew us, we were polimen, spiritual warriors. 57 00:02:59,413 --> 00:03:01,482 If you didn't know us, we were a bunch of drug dealers. 58 00:03:01,582 --> 00:03:03,116 You know, we were both. 59 00:03:03,217 --> 00:03:04,685 - [Voiceover] The international business 60 00:03:04,785 --> 00:03:06,287 and the risks that we took. 61 00:03:06,387 --> 00:03:09,423 Not only risks of getting locked up indefinitely 62 00:03:09,523 --> 00:03:11,325 in some foreign country where they just 63 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:13,461 throw the key away and forget you're there, 64 00:03:13,561 --> 00:03:15,929 but there was people killed in those days 65 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:17,465 for possession of hash 66 00:03:17,565 --> 00:03:18,766 and there we were, you know, 67 00:03:18,866 --> 00:03:22,169 smuggling LSD and hash and marijuana. 68 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:25,839 So, we could have easily been executed 69 00:03:25,939 --> 00:03:30,077 and we knew it, and we did it anyway. 70 00:03:30,177 --> 00:03:31,779 - We were rolling through tons of karma, 71 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:34,014 taking that much acid, smuggling and all that. 72 00:03:34,114 --> 00:03:35,983 We were doing things nobody else could do. 73 00:03:36,083 --> 00:03:37,451 Other people try to do that and they died 74 00:03:37,551 --> 00:03:38,852 or ended up in jail. 75 00:03:38,952 --> 00:03:40,521 We had the power to do stuff 76 00:03:40,621 --> 00:03:42,856 and we did it and we knew it and it worked. 77 00:03:42,956 --> 00:03:44,725 * When you die 78 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:48,696 * He's gonna recommend you to the spirit in the sky 79 00:03:48,796 --> 00:03:52,366 * Going to recommend you to the spirit in the sky 80 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:55,869 * That's where you gonna go when you die 81 00:03:55,969 --> 00:03:58,972 * When you die and they lay you to rest 82 00:03:59,072 --> 00:04:03,143 * You're gonna go to the place that's the best * 83 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:13,287 - 1960, I was 15. 84 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:15,723 Johnny Grigg's group from Anaheim was sitting 85 00:04:15,823 --> 00:04:18,359 in their designated area on the beach 86 00:04:18,459 --> 00:04:23,230 and Garden Grove was over here, you know? 87 00:04:23,331 --> 00:04:26,266 Johnny turned around and he just stared at me 88 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:29,102 for a real long time and it penetrated me. 89 00:04:29,202 --> 00:04:31,872 That was it, that was just it for me. 90 00:04:31,972 --> 00:04:33,707 You know they say it's love at first sight 91 00:04:33,807 --> 00:04:36,043 or it's a lightning bolt or something. 92 00:04:36,143 --> 00:04:39,947 That is what happened to me. 93 00:04:40,047 --> 00:04:41,949 My girlfriend's all warned me about him, you know? 94 00:04:42,049 --> 00:04:47,321 That he was kind of a little bit of a troublemaker. 95 00:04:47,421 --> 00:04:50,223 Johnny asked me if I would go out with him 96 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:53,394 and I had known for months and months 97 00:04:53,494 --> 00:04:56,397 and been already in love with him. 98 00:04:56,497 --> 00:04:59,400 When he kissed me I was so shocked, 99 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:02,035 because he seemed so timid 100 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,137 and he was almost afraid. 101 00:05:04,237 --> 00:05:06,073 He says, "I was so nervous, you know, 102 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:10,277 "'cause I had everything banking on that kiss, you know." 103 00:05:10,378 --> 00:05:13,414 It was like, you know, if it wasn't then, 104 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:16,450 it wasn't gonna happen, you know. 105 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:17,618 And that was it. 106 00:05:17,718 --> 00:05:19,152 From that kiss on. 107 00:05:19,252 --> 00:05:21,422 * I need your love 108 00:05:21,522 --> 00:05:24,324 * I need your love so badly 109 00:05:24,425 --> 00:05:26,427 * Now since I've learned you wanted 110 00:05:26,527 --> 00:05:28,962 * No one else around me 111 00:05:29,062 --> 00:05:33,000 * Me, your love, and I'm counting on it all * 112 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:35,436 - Johnny went to Brigham Young University. 113 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:39,106 He had a scholarship in wrestling there. 114 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:44,044 When he came back in May, I got pregnant. 115 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:49,182 I was my 17th birthday; my first time out. 116 00:05:49,282 --> 00:05:54,221 (chuckling) Happy birthday! 117 00:05:54,321 --> 00:05:57,991 My parents and John's parents took us to Las Vegas 118 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:01,294 because they had to sign for me 'cause I was only 17 119 00:06:01,395 --> 00:06:04,097 and we got married there. 120 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:09,102 We were totally in love so it didn't matter. 121 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:12,305 Johnny and I bought a house in Fountain Valley 122 00:06:12,406 --> 00:06:14,274 with our little family. 123 00:06:14,374 --> 00:06:15,776 It was a cul-de-sac. 124 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:17,210 My kids could go to school. 125 00:06:17,310 --> 00:06:23,083 I thought it was everything I wanted in life. 126 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:25,953 Well, I was just against all drugs, you know? 127 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:27,387 I just never did a drug. 128 00:06:27,488 --> 00:06:30,724 I never smoked pot or did anything. 129 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:34,962 John was taking LSD and he was doing it in my house 130 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:40,067 and I thought it was a little crazy, but I was young. 131 00:06:40,167 --> 00:06:42,703 Johnny would select a few of his close friends 132 00:06:42,803 --> 00:06:46,540 that he wanted to experience that and who were open. 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,841 They were tripping inside 134 00:06:47,941 --> 00:06:49,009 and then they went out into nature 135 00:06:49,109 --> 00:06:50,911 to the beaches, and surfing 136 00:06:51,011 --> 00:06:54,214 and John was turning on 24/7 137 00:06:54,314 --> 00:06:58,118 and for about nine months before 138 00:06:58,218 --> 00:07:02,289 they decided I needed to join the club. 139 00:07:05,325 --> 00:07:07,828 Him and his friends took me out, 140 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:11,264 took me down, maybe, you know, with breakfast; 141 00:07:11,364 --> 00:07:17,971 scrambled eggs and it was in the orange juice. 142 00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:21,208 Man, the whole universe came down on me. 143 00:07:21,308 --> 00:07:25,012 I experienced deep within and I didn't want this 144 00:07:25,112 --> 00:07:27,114 two-story Fountain Valley house 145 00:07:27,214 --> 00:07:30,584 that I thought was everything I wanted in life, you know? 146 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:34,187 This little stray piece of land here and fit in 147 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:38,425 and that night, I didn't want any of it, you know? 148 00:07:38,526 --> 00:07:40,027 I didn't want any of it. 149 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:42,195 I just wanted to move to the country 150 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:48,168 and be my own special self whatever that was. 151 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:50,237 - Well, the experiences you have when you take LSD 152 00:07:50,337 --> 00:07:54,241 is a, is a sense of being in communion 153 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:55,743 with powers greater than yourself 154 00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:59,146 and intelligence which far outstretch the human mind 155 00:07:59,246 --> 00:08:02,115 and energies which are very ancient. 156 00:08:02,215 --> 00:08:03,984 - Johnny have read this article 157 00:08:04,084 --> 00:08:07,487 in Life Magazine about these Harvard professors 158 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:10,257 who were experimenting with LSD. 159 00:08:10,357 --> 00:08:11,892 - Our aim, like the aims 160 00:08:11,992 --> 00:08:14,294 of any religious group just beginning, 161 00:08:14,394 --> 00:08:16,797 is to transform American society. 162 00:08:16,897 --> 00:08:18,666 I'm sure many of your viewers know 163 00:08:18,766 --> 00:08:21,935 that American today is an insane asylum. 164 00:08:22,035 --> 00:08:24,271 The American people are completely hung up 165 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:27,975 on material acquisition, on power, on war-making, 166 00:08:28,075 --> 00:08:29,943 it's an insane asylum over here. 167 00:08:30,043 --> 00:08:33,180 And it's our goal to lift the spiritual level 168 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,748 of the American people. 169 00:08:34,848 --> 00:08:37,517 We're gonna try to bring about a religious renaissance 170 00:08:37,618 --> 00:08:40,353 and a spiritual revolution. 171 00:08:40,453 --> 00:08:44,625 - Timothy Leary was very much a spiritual being. 172 00:08:44,725 --> 00:08:46,326 He had written a Tao Te Ching, 173 00:08:46,426 --> 00:08:48,161 and Psychedelic Experience. 174 00:08:48,261 --> 00:08:49,697 He was trippin'. 175 00:08:49,797 --> 00:08:53,500 You know, I mean this is the head honcho, the high priest. 176 00:08:53,601 --> 00:08:56,436 Johnny went to Millbrook and met him, 177 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:57,705 and then they talked, 178 00:08:57,805 --> 00:09:00,808 and Johnny brought back books and information, 179 00:09:00,908 --> 00:09:03,276 and then we had more printed. 180 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:08,281 We had lived in Fountain Valley 'bout 10 months to a year 181 00:09:08,381 --> 00:09:10,017 and you know we had a down payment 182 00:09:10,117 --> 00:09:12,720 and making our payments on this thing, you know. 183 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:15,488 And I just walked up to the main office, 184 00:09:15,589 --> 00:09:17,658 and I gave him my keys and I told him 185 00:09:17,758 --> 00:09:19,660 we were giving the house back. 186 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,161 They said, "What, we can't do that." 187 00:09:21,261 --> 00:09:23,196 I said, "Yeah we can, we don't want it. 188 00:09:23,296 --> 00:09:25,298 "It's yours, sell it, resell it, we don't want it." 189 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:28,201 (classical guitar) 190 00:09:28,301 --> 00:09:30,070 - [Michael R.] We realized that we were 191 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:32,505 a group of sort of bonded people 192 00:09:32,606 --> 00:09:37,645 and we found this old church in Modjeska Canyon; 193 00:09:37,745 --> 00:09:44,151 beautiful, beautiful, beautiful little canyon 194 00:09:44,251 --> 00:09:47,254 - [Carol] We moved to Modjeska Canyon as a group 195 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:50,390 from our individual dwellings in Anaheim, 196 00:09:50,490 --> 00:09:53,526 Long Beach, and Garden Grove. 197 00:09:53,627 --> 00:09:55,562 - [Voiceover] The first time I went to Modjeska Canyon 198 00:09:55,663 --> 00:09:57,064 it felt spiritual. 199 00:09:57,164 --> 00:10:00,801 It felt religious in a way. 200 00:10:00,901 --> 00:10:02,703 - The goal of the group at that time 201 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:07,507 was your personal enlightenment, changing yourself. 202 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:09,877 You know, we all started reading spiritual books 203 00:10:09,977 --> 00:10:11,278 and philosophies. 204 00:10:11,378 --> 00:10:13,246 Most of us didn't know anything among, 205 00:10:13,346 --> 00:10:15,716 I was raised pretty much without religion. 206 00:10:15,816 --> 00:10:18,018 I was pretty much an atheist, 207 00:10:18,118 --> 00:10:20,020 'til I started taking psychedelics. 208 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,324 (trippy music) 209 00:10:24,424 --> 00:10:27,360 - [Carol] In the beginning we relied a lot on holy men, 210 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:31,832 like Yogananda Ramakrishna and Ram Dass. 211 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:34,067 We had a Zen master for a while. 212 00:10:34,167 --> 00:10:36,469 You know, we searched around to find 213 00:10:36,569 --> 00:10:40,741 people that could explain the mystery to us. 214 00:10:40,841 --> 00:10:44,211 * The seed doesn't fall 215 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:47,247 (trippy music) 216 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:00,227 - [Carol] Each time we took LSD 217 00:11:00,327 --> 00:11:02,730 we woke up a little bit more, and a little bit more, 218 00:11:02,830 --> 00:11:07,000 and we surrendered to that process and to that light. 219 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:08,802 - John Griggs' dream was to give LSD 220 00:11:08,902 --> 00:11:11,104 to everybody, change the world. 221 00:11:11,204 --> 00:11:14,007 Hopefully everybody can see what we were seeing. 222 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:16,243 - [Michael R.] There was always this tension in the world 223 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:18,979 that just seemed like would probably go away 224 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:23,083 if everybody took a dose of acid, is what we thought. 225 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:25,685 That's when we decided to form a church. 226 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:28,722 (trippy rock music) 227 00:11:35,595 --> 00:11:37,931 - [Travis] We had one of our meetings, one of our, 228 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:39,833 I think it was a Wednesday night meeting, 229 00:11:39,933 --> 00:11:41,034 and John was trying to come up 230 00:11:41,134 --> 00:11:42,836 with a name for the group. 231 00:11:42,936 --> 00:11:44,337 - [Carol] Dwight Buckley said something 232 00:11:44,437 --> 00:11:46,473 like "The Brotherhood". 233 00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:50,010 And somebody said "Well, the Brotherhood of what?" 234 00:11:50,110 --> 00:11:51,779 And then Chuck Mendell said-- 235 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:53,180 - The Brotherhood of Eternal Love-- 236 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,514 - The Brotherhood of Eternal Love. 237 00:11:54,614 --> 00:12:01,388 - The Brotherhood of Eternal Love and it stuck. 238 00:12:01,488 --> 00:12:04,124 * We are the brothers here 239 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:06,726 * And they can't take that away * 240 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:10,530 - The idea was that each one of those, say 12 people 241 00:12:10,630 --> 00:12:13,500 would go out and have 10 or 12 people, 242 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,237 and show them how this, how this works. 243 00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:20,307 - Everybody you know, go out and tell everybody, 244 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,976 your workplace, your school, your family, anybody. 245 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:24,311 Get 'em to take LSD with you. 246 00:12:24,411 --> 00:12:25,979 - The obvious thing was, 247 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:28,015 we need to know how to make as much acid 248 00:12:28,115 --> 00:12:33,420 and get it to as many people as we possibly can. 249 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,155 * I love it 250 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:37,557 - We felt it was our duty to turn the world on. 251 00:12:37,657 --> 00:12:41,228 We really, really, truly believe that it is our mission 252 00:12:41,328 --> 00:12:42,996 - We were called upon to do this. 253 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:44,697 it felt like that to all of us. 254 00:12:44,798 --> 00:12:51,404 we said, "this is something, this is what I have to do." 255 00:12:51,504 --> 00:12:54,574 - [Carol] LSD was much more expensive then. 256 00:12:54,674 --> 00:12:57,344 Say, that's hence where all the hash scams 257 00:12:57,444 --> 00:13:03,350 and the weed scams came through. 258 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:05,285 - Almost everyone 259 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:07,220 was doing a scam. 260 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,356 By a scam, we mean an operation, 261 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:12,525 some sort of smuggling operation. 262 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:14,361 When it came down to the real business 263 00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:16,429 of making this into a big business, 264 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:18,265 I was the guy to do that. 265 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:21,034 - Michael started working very closely with Johnny, 266 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:23,203 was his kind of right-hand man 267 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:24,972 - John and I were best friends. 268 00:13:25,072 --> 00:13:26,406 That's how I became his partner. 269 00:13:26,506 --> 00:13:28,641 I think like he does. 270 00:13:28,741 --> 00:13:30,643 I was one of the ground-floor investors 271 00:13:30,743 --> 00:13:33,613 in a scam where we were a movie company. 272 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:35,548 In those days, everything was big, you know. 273 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,985 And only had film canisters and the idea was 274 00:13:38,085 --> 00:13:40,553 to fill the film canisters with LSD, 275 00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:43,390 and you can't open them or you expose the film. 276 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:46,626 * I feel this rust I'm in so bad * 277 00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:48,228 - I was the hash guy. 278 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,163 Hash was my thing. 279 00:13:50,263 --> 00:13:52,632 - Travis inspired me because he was always a go-getter, 280 00:13:52,732 --> 00:13:55,002 and he still is to this day. 281 00:13:55,102 --> 00:13:57,004 Perales used to buy weed in Tijuana, 282 00:13:57,104 --> 00:13:59,139 walk it up to the border, leave it, 283 00:13:59,239 --> 00:14:01,474 and go through Tijuana, go and pick it up and drive it home. 284 00:14:01,574 --> 00:14:03,676 And he did that when he was 17 years old. 285 00:14:03,776 --> 00:14:07,080 * I can't get your love, I can't get affection * 286 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:09,649 - [Voiceover] Ron, my older brother is a pretty smart guy, 287 00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:11,952 engineer kind of mind, you know. 288 00:14:12,052 --> 00:14:14,421 He can build things, design things. 289 00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:15,755 He's very handy. 290 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:17,457 - You know they always called me Poindexter, 291 00:14:17,557 --> 00:14:18,825 because I am really smart, 292 00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:19,927 but book smart. 293 00:14:20,027 --> 00:14:21,361 I'm street-stupid. 294 00:14:21,461 --> 00:14:23,997 You can ask Travis, (laughs) he'll tell you. 295 00:14:24,097 --> 00:14:27,167 I took on the building of the vehicles kind of as a job, 296 00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:29,536 but, it was real interesting 297 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:35,442 to figure out where to put the hash. 298 00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:37,110 - Carol was the queen mother, 299 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:39,446 and all the other wives looked to Carol. 300 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:41,548 She was just like all of us looked to John. 301 00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:43,016 - It was always 50-50. 302 00:14:43,116 --> 00:14:45,618 The women, we all did our share. 303 00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:46,954 We worked hard. 304 00:14:47,054 --> 00:14:49,056 Women made everything legitimate. 305 00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:51,491 You wanted a woman in the car with you, you know, 306 00:14:51,591 --> 00:14:54,361 not a couple of shady looking guys. 307 00:14:54,461 --> 00:14:58,631 * I need you girl by my side 308 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:00,500 - [Carol] John was the magician. 309 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,835 He made it happen. 310 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:05,005 We would get a huge load of something, 311 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:06,539 and he would be instrumental 312 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:09,676 in making sure it got to York, 313 00:15:09,776 --> 00:15:11,744 and who it went out to, 314 00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:13,480 and who it hooked up to, 315 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:16,549 and he was a business man, kind of. 316 00:15:16,649 --> 00:15:18,585 - [Voiceover] Johnny was sort of the hub, 317 00:15:18,685 --> 00:15:23,056 and this group was growing around him. 318 00:15:23,156 --> 00:15:25,258 - [Michael R.] I found in most cases 319 00:15:25,358 --> 00:15:27,494 people that you're going to dangerous things with 320 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:28,895 and break the law, 321 00:15:28,996 --> 00:15:30,597 you better be close friends. 322 00:15:30,697 --> 00:15:33,933 You better be sure that you got each other's back. 323 00:15:34,034 --> 00:15:36,703 - You know, a goal was not the drug business, 324 00:15:36,803 --> 00:15:38,571 it just morphed into this, you know, 325 00:15:38,671 --> 00:15:39,939 it went from a group, 326 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,609 a handful of guys seeking spiritual enlightenment, 327 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:45,212 to next thing you know, we were smuggling. 328 00:15:45,312 --> 00:15:46,579 - First it started off small things, 329 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:49,349 but then the loads kept getting bigger, bigger, 330 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:52,585 which was more revenue. 331 00:15:52,685 --> 00:15:55,088 The money for the LSD all went back in 332 00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:56,589 to make more to make it cheaper, 333 00:15:56,689 --> 00:15:59,292 give it away for almost nothing. 334 00:15:59,392 --> 00:16:06,333 (funky music) 335 00:16:06,433 --> 00:16:09,536 - People on the east coast pay like five times more money 336 00:16:09,636 --> 00:16:12,572 than we do on the west coast for marijuana, 337 00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:14,474 so however you get it back there, 338 00:16:14,574 --> 00:16:19,379 you can make quite a bit of money. 339 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:21,414 Used to be able to go to the airport 340 00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:24,917 and say, "Hi my name is" whatever name you want. 341 00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:28,588 Go on a one way ticket, take a large suitcase, 342 00:16:28,688 --> 00:16:30,123 fill it with weed. 343 00:16:30,223 --> 00:16:33,093 Check it into baggage on the airplane, fly it to New York. 344 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:34,661 You could do that. 345 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:36,663 - [Ron] At this time, you could get on a plane anywhere, 346 00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:39,332 and whatever you had on your body was fine. 347 00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:52,445 - All the Afghani hash was known as Primo, Afghani Primo. 348 00:16:52,545 --> 00:16:55,082 One of my reasons for exploring the hash business 349 00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,849 was I loved it so much, 350 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:58,318 but it was so expensive. 351 00:16:58,418 --> 00:17:00,087 I mean you pretty much had to be a dealer 352 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:01,788 to be able to afford to use it, 353 00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:03,756 so I wanted to make it cheaper. 354 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,025 (dramatic music) 355 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:07,294 I just started doing a little research 356 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:08,661 on where they had hash, 357 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:11,598 figured it out and decided to go do a ... 358 00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:13,200 I got Ricky Bevells to go with me 359 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:15,602 and we flew to Europe, 360 00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:19,539 clean cut, corduroy sport jackets, and short hair. 361 00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:20,840 - [Voiceover] We decided we'd go to Germany 362 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:26,713 and buy a car, and drive to Nepal. 363 00:17:26,813 --> 00:17:29,282 Since we both had hid cars with door panels 364 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:30,483 from Mexico and everything, 365 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,185 we thought okay, well we'll get a car, 366 00:17:32,285 --> 00:17:34,521 score and fill it up, and ship it home. 367 00:17:34,621 --> 00:17:36,656 We had no idea where we were going, 368 00:17:36,756 --> 00:17:39,226 or what we were going to encounter. 369 00:17:39,326 --> 00:17:41,794 - We picked up a couple hippies that were hitchhiking. 370 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,130 It was a guy and a girl. 371 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:45,365 So, we started smoking with these hippies, 372 00:17:45,465 --> 00:17:47,134 and one thing came to another, 373 00:17:47,234 --> 00:17:48,668 and they figured out we were coming there 374 00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:49,902 to get some hash. 375 00:17:50,002 --> 00:17:51,471 So the guys says, "You know what, man?" 376 00:17:51,571 --> 00:17:54,841 He says, "You wanna go to Afghanistan." 377 00:17:54,941 --> 00:17:57,009 And I said, "Where the heck, where's that?" 378 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:59,011 I had never heard of that. 379 00:17:59,112 --> 00:18:01,181 He says, "They got the best hash in the world there, 380 00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:02,982 "and it's only four dollars a kilo." 381 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:04,717 I said, "When do we leave, man?" 382 00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:08,988 And the next morning, man, we headed for Afghanistan. 383 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:10,590 - [Voiceover] We were very young, 384 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:14,727 and not very fearful of hardly anything, actually. 385 00:18:14,827 --> 00:18:16,196 We weren't two kids, 386 00:18:16,296 --> 00:18:19,232 like you think of a 19 year old and a 20 year old. 387 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:20,600 It was different than that, 388 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:22,602 because we had been weekly 389 00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:26,806 tapping into this self that is eternal. 390 00:18:26,906 --> 00:18:28,208 And we knew that. 391 00:18:28,308 --> 00:18:31,878 So, we were like, old souls in young bodies 392 00:18:31,978 --> 00:18:36,449 going over to do this deed. 393 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:37,750 - When we first got there, 394 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:39,186 we were standing in line at this fruit stand 395 00:18:39,286 --> 00:18:40,720 to buy some fruit, 396 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:42,755 when this guy comes walking across the square, 397 00:18:42,855 --> 00:18:43,956 looking right at us. 398 00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:46,092 And I see kind of a guy in a turban, you know, 399 00:18:46,193 --> 00:18:47,694 and he comes right up to us and goes, 400 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:50,630 "Would you guys like to buy some fine Afghan shit?" 401 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,532 I said, "What kind of shit you got, man?" 402 00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:55,602 He said, "Well, I got cocaine, hashish, 403 00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:58,205 "morphine, opium." 404 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:02,975 I go, "Well, that hash sounds good." 405 00:19:03,075 --> 00:19:04,911 We'd gone on this trip originally 406 00:19:05,011 --> 00:19:06,813 planning on trying to get 10 kilos. 407 00:19:06,913 --> 00:19:08,881 22 pounds, that was our goal. 408 00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:12,051 We ended up buying 50 kilos from these guys. 409 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:15,788 This is Ayatoolah and Nazareem, two po-ki brothers. 410 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,424 So, we had all this hash, 411 00:19:17,524 --> 00:19:19,459 We were gonna figure out, how are we gonna get this home? 412 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:21,928 So, we started going to the bazaar, 413 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,996 looking at antiques and stuff. 414 00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:26,065 And things were so ridiculously cheap. 415 00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:28,901 We found all these beautiful antique musical instruments, 416 00:19:29,001 --> 00:19:31,471 drums, and like tablas, 417 00:19:31,571 --> 00:19:35,007 and stringed instruments like tambouras. 418 00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:37,644 We just bought a bunch of it and we packed it with hash. 419 00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:38,745 You could pack the neck. 420 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:41,147 You could line the body of it. 421 00:19:41,248 --> 00:19:42,849 - [Voiceover] We saw it in the news paper, 422 00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,852 that they had executed a Canadian guy 423 00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:48,288 for possession of a very small amount of hash. 424 00:19:48,388 --> 00:19:52,325 So, we didn't realize we were risking our lives. 425 00:19:52,425 --> 00:19:54,327 - So, I'm sitting out in Pomona. 426 00:19:54,427 --> 00:19:56,629 Travis and Rick, he called me from Europe. 427 00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:59,832 And they proceed to tell me that they sent me a shipment, 428 00:19:59,932 --> 00:20:01,634 and the hash is in it and it's coming, 429 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,803 and I have to go pick it up from the LA Customs. 430 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:05,438 Why'd they send it to me? 431 00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:07,607 I didn't tell them they could send that to me. 432 00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:09,342 Why the fuck did they send that to me? 433 00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:12,111 Why didn't they send it to themself. 434 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,046 So, I go to the airport, pick this up. 435 00:20:14,146 --> 00:20:16,616 Well, they had sent animal skins 436 00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:19,286 with all the instruments that they packed the hash into. 437 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:20,487 They hassled me about the skins. 438 00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:21,621 They said, "You can't import these skins. 439 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:23,022 "What are you guys doin'?" 440 00:20:23,122 --> 00:20:24,524 And I'm standing there with these two customs agents 441 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:26,726 for hours when they've got this stuff all over the floor. 442 00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:28,227 - [Voiceover] It wasn't over till it was over. 443 00:20:28,328 --> 00:20:31,331 So, until Ron had cleared it, we were all ahead. 444 00:20:31,431 --> 00:20:33,400 I was worried about my brother getting busted. 445 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:34,867 Ron was worried about getting busted. 446 00:20:34,967 --> 00:20:38,305 Trav was probably worried that we'd lose everything. 447 00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:41,808 - And the one guy picks up the one wooden tabla, 448 00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:44,711 the drum, and he says, "This thing's heavy. 449 00:20:44,811 --> 00:20:46,746 "He says, it must be solid wood." 450 00:20:46,846 --> 00:20:48,981 And other customs agents picks up another one, 451 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,818 and said, "Yeah, and I suppose this is solid metal." 452 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,553 And they're looking at each other. 453 00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:55,221 And I'm just standing there. 454 00:20:55,322 --> 00:20:59,592 They said, okay, you can go. 455 00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:01,894 - So, we showed up with 88 pounds of hash 456 00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:03,830 that nobody even knew that hash was like that. 457 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:04,897 It was so good, so different 458 00:21:04,997 --> 00:21:06,699 than anything we'd ever seen before. 459 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:08,835 There's, it's the best hash in the world. 460 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:12,672 (serene music) 461 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:16,609 - I'm in Ann Arbor at a college commune, 462 00:21:16,709 --> 00:21:18,978 and I walk in, 463 00:21:19,078 --> 00:21:24,617 and this wonderful aroma wharfs past me, 464 00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:27,920 and it was almost like a moment, you know, 465 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,856 that I really, to this day, 466 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,724 I mean how many years ago was that? 467 00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:34,694 45 or something, 50 years ago, 468 00:21:34,794 --> 00:21:36,863 and I'm still thinking of when I think of it. 469 00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:40,533 It really is a moment of wow. 470 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:41,868 And I said, "This stuff's really good. 471 00:21:41,968 --> 00:21:43,102 "Where'd you get it?" 472 00:21:43,202 --> 00:21:44,771 And he said, 473 00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:47,974 "These people called The Brotherhood bring it in." 474 00:21:48,074 --> 00:21:51,411 And I said, "There's people called The Brotherhood?" 475 00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:55,081 (laughs) And I said, "Well, that sounds cool." 476 00:21:55,181 --> 00:21:56,949 - [Voiceover] People were associating this hash 477 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,285 from Afghanistan with the Brotherhood, 478 00:21:59,386 --> 00:22:00,920 because we were the ones that had it. 479 00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:03,823 And the name Brotherhood probably went along with it. 480 00:22:03,923 --> 00:22:05,224 It was dealt in pounds. 481 00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:06,893 Then it was dealt in ounces. 482 00:22:06,993 --> 00:22:09,562 Then it was dealt in grams, you know. 483 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,998 - Everybody had to have some, 484 00:22:12,098 --> 00:22:15,435 and then of course that just set everyone to thinking, 485 00:22:15,535 --> 00:22:20,206 we can do this, you know? 486 00:22:20,306 --> 00:22:24,977 John and I had started to pursue the idea of providing 487 00:22:25,077 --> 00:22:28,981 massive amounts of LSD, as much acid as we could. 488 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:31,083 - [Voiceover] We went through a number phases 489 00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:33,920 where we got different types of LSD. 490 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:37,356 There was 7th Chakra Lavendar, Blue Levis. 491 00:22:37,457 --> 00:22:40,026 There was Red Tab. 492 00:22:40,126 --> 00:22:42,128 - Ram Dass, who was Richard Alpert's said, 493 00:22:42,228 --> 00:22:43,496 "You guys need a center. 494 00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:47,700 "You need a place to explain how you're 495 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,768 "surviving." 496 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:50,937 Because now we're selling acid. 497 00:22:51,037 --> 00:22:53,606 * Pack too much baby 498 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:54,974 * Say you'll be my girl 499 00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:58,144 - [Michael R.] So, we went to Laguna Beach. 500 00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:01,414 It was an artist colony. 501 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:05,317 It was the most liberal of places in Orange County. 502 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:07,186 Who doesn't like the beach? 503 00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:09,656 * Back again let me in 504 00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:11,991 * The war is over where you been * 505 00:23:12,091 --> 00:23:14,326 - Johnny and I started immediately talking 506 00:23:14,427 --> 00:23:16,395 that a bookstore, 507 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:17,997 a metaphysical bookstore, 508 00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:20,199 that's what we were gonna do. 509 00:23:20,299 --> 00:23:24,403 And we then found the place on Pacific Coast Highway 510 00:23:24,504 --> 00:23:27,173 that was just way bigger than a bookstore place, 511 00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:28,407 but it looked perfect 512 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:30,810 and the whole thing just expanded out like, 513 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,011 "Well, hell let's 514 00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:34,046 "put a bookstore here and other stores there." 515 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:36,148 It became a bigger vision. 516 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:39,919 - And that way we could be creative and 517 00:23:40,019 --> 00:23:42,021 more hide what we were doing. 518 00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:44,691 * Walk right by the old news baby * 519 00:23:44,791 --> 00:23:46,893 - A clothing store, handmade clothing, 520 00:23:46,993 --> 00:23:50,162 there was a bead store, art gallery, 521 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:52,064 a health food juice bar, 522 00:23:52,164 --> 00:23:54,066 and we called it Mystic Arts World. 523 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,668 And it was a hit, 524 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:58,004 and the place started making money from day one. 525 00:23:58,104 --> 00:24:00,172 * Hey hey hey hey 526 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,709 * No no no no 527 00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:05,512 - [Michael R.] The Los Angeles Times said 528 00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:08,881 that, "Mystic Arts World was the finest gallery 529 00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:10,917 "in southern California." 530 00:24:11,017 --> 00:24:12,852 There was nothing like it around. 531 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:14,854 There has never been anything like it around. 532 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:18,591 It was a psychedelic emporium. 533 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,126 - [Travis] Mystic Arts became the center 534 00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:21,127 for southern California 535 00:24:21,227 --> 00:24:22,361 for the hippie movement, 536 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:23,630 and the psychedelic movement, 537 00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:25,231 the spiritual movement, 538 00:24:25,331 --> 00:24:27,033 and Laguna became the town everyone flocked to. 539 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:29,869 It was like Haight Ashbury south. 540 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:32,138 And we ended calling the place Dodge City, 541 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:34,106 because of everybody was dealing pot, 542 00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:35,875 and psychedelics, and just, 543 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:40,613 I mean, it became the place. 544 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:42,549 - [Carol] There was no law there, you know. 545 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:44,050 It was the wild west, 546 00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:45,217 and a new frontier. 547 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:47,253 You know, it was our own community. 548 00:24:47,353 --> 00:24:48,921 - [Michael R.] It was like the Shire, 549 00:24:49,021 --> 00:24:53,660 this beautiful idyllic little weird community. 550 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,261 - [Voiceover] You could just go out on the street, 551 00:24:55,361 --> 00:24:56,395 and you'd run into somebody you knew, 552 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:57,997 and have a conversation, 553 00:24:58,097 --> 00:24:59,932 or go over to their house and smoke a joint with them, 554 00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:01,734 or get some waves, go surfing. 555 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:05,271 It was all so relaxed and sort of utopia. 556 00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:08,274 - [Carol] Johnny used to love to take acid and surf. 557 00:25:08,374 --> 00:25:10,142 That was their whole thing. 558 00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:11,644 That's what got 'em all goin'. 559 00:25:11,744 --> 00:25:14,981 A lot of the surfers, they called it Christ in the curl. 560 00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:18,117 - You had surfers meeting with all the hippies 561 00:25:18,217 --> 00:25:19,518 and everybody smoked weed. 562 00:25:19,619 --> 00:25:20,920 Everybody took acid. 563 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,055 Everybody did. 564 00:25:23,155 --> 00:25:25,324 - [Carol] Chuch Wendell had brought Mike Hynson 565 00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:28,360 out to the canyon to meet us. 566 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,196 - Mike Hynson was the best surfer 567 00:25:30,296 --> 00:25:32,431 in the world, practically in the day, 568 00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:36,035 and a movie star, kind of. 569 00:25:36,135 --> 00:25:39,839 His story on black speech in San Diego once, 570 00:25:39,939 --> 00:25:41,440 we're passing a joint back and forth, 571 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,042 both high on acid, 572 00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:44,476 and Mike picked up his board, 573 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:48,147 and he jumps in the water with the joint still lit, 574 00:25:48,247 --> 00:25:50,016 jumps into this wave, 575 00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:52,051 catches it just perfect, 576 00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:55,287 and he disappeared inside the curl, 577 00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:56,723 and sitting on the beach, can't see him. 578 00:25:56,823 --> 00:25:58,390 And all of a sudden he comes flying out 579 00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:01,527 the back end of the wave kind of sitting cross-legged 580 00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:03,830 on the back of the surfboard, 581 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:07,533 and hops off, grabs the surfboard, 582 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:13,773 and the joint is still lit. 583 00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:16,843 He said, "That's how you're supposed to do it, brother." 584 00:26:16,943 --> 00:26:19,612 You know, it was like, my God. 585 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:30,356 - Selling psychedelics was a dharmic way to be. 586 00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:32,358 It was a good way to make a living. 587 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:33,492 It was honest. 588 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,527 It was a good product. 589 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:37,997 It was wanted, you know. 590 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:43,169 The only problem is it was illegal. 591 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:45,271 - Because they made it illegal, 592 00:26:45,371 --> 00:26:47,273 it produced commerce. 593 00:26:47,373 --> 00:26:49,075 All the hippies can't be just smoking weed 594 00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:50,009 and taking LSD. 595 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,011 Someone has to make the money. 596 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:53,345 Now there was bands. 597 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:54,681 There was health food stores. 598 00:26:54,781 --> 00:26:55,915 There was record shops, 599 00:26:56,015 --> 00:26:58,250 but the main commerce came from the LSD, 600 00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:00,186 the marijuana, and the hashish. 601 00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:01,754 From the smugglers to the ground dealer, 602 00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:03,455 this started a commerce 603 00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:10,262 that allowed the hippie movement to happen. 604 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,397 - [Carol] The movement 605 00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:13,565 and the name of The Brotherhood 606 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,301 kept getting bigger and bigger. 607 00:27:15,401 --> 00:27:18,404 - And I think a lot of people realized that 608 00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:21,774 we were gonna be a major influence 609 00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:24,476 in the psychedelic world. 610 00:27:30,516 --> 00:27:31,884 - I was an attorney. 611 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:34,486 I had been practicing for a number of years. 612 00:27:34,586 --> 00:27:37,924 We were representing a lot of draft resisters at the time 613 00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:40,793 and a lot of drug dealers at the time. 614 00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:42,829 My basic view of the law was 615 00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:45,297 anybody our government didn't like 616 00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:46,598 couldn't be all bad. 617 00:27:46,699 --> 00:27:49,501 So, we represented criminals. 618 00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:51,838 We were very political ourselves, 619 00:27:51,938 --> 00:27:57,176 very proud student activists. 620 00:27:57,276 --> 00:27:59,445 - [Michael R.] I mean, I think the 60s was 621 00:27:59,545 --> 00:28:02,448 the perfect storm in so many ways. 622 00:28:02,548 --> 00:28:04,316 With all the background of people 623 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,819 just getting sick and tired of racism, 624 00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:10,089 women wanting to be treated more equally 625 00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:11,924 in society and they weren't. 626 00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:13,793 - [Carol] It was during the Vietnam War. 627 00:28:13,893 --> 00:28:16,328 You know, nobody wanted to go fight the war. 628 00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:17,296 Nobody wanted to do that. 629 00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:19,165 It was all about peace and love. 630 00:28:19,265 --> 00:28:21,367 - You had the marches going on. 631 00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,435 They know it was, 632 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,437 a lot of turmoil. 633 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:27,639 - Great steps forward often come 634 00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:30,542 from a surprising stimulus. 635 00:28:30,642 --> 00:28:33,946 Psychedelics was just the catalyst you drop into it, 636 00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:37,817 and it all started to gel and come together. 637 00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:39,351 People just said, 638 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:41,387 "We're not gonna put up with this anymore. 639 00:28:41,487 --> 00:28:46,092 "This isn't right, and so we rebuild." 640 00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:50,696 (upbeat music) 641 00:28:50,797 --> 00:28:53,032 We were there for the Berkeley riots. 642 00:28:53,132 --> 00:28:55,234 - [Voiceover] 400 police officers moved skirmish lines 643 00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:56,535 through the area. 644 00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:58,337 - My beautiful girls would run around topless, 645 00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:00,672 and give the soldiers flowers, 646 00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:03,242 and sometimes refreshments 647 00:29:03,342 --> 00:29:05,511 that were laced with acid, of course. 648 00:29:05,611 --> 00:29:07,814 There were times when we'd go out, 649 00:29:07,914 --> 00:29:11,083 and this roadblock isn't there anymore. 650 00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:14,186 All the guards are layin' on the lawns of the houses, 651 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:15,554 in their uniform, 652 00:29:15,654 --> 00:29:18,357 with their stupid looking old bolt action rifles, 653 00:29:18,457 --> 00:29:19,892 flowers in the stock, 654 00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:22,494 and they're as loaded as they could be. 655 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:25,264 There was a time, particularly in southern California, 656 00:29:25,364 --> 00:29:26,565 where word spread. 657 00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:28,434 It was mostly mythology, 658 00:29:28,534 --> 00:29:32,338 The Brotherhood of Eternal Love could take a tab of acid, 659 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:34,240 and with a little pair of gloves, 660 00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:36,242 they'd put it on your doorknob. 661 00:29:36,342 --> 00:29:38,377 They could put it in your drinking water. 662 00:29:38,477 --> 00:29:40,346 They could put it everywhere, 663 00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:42,448 and you didn't even know it had hit you 664 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:44,083 until you were stoned outta your mind, 665 00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:45,584 and wondering, "Whoa! 666 00:29:45,684 --> 00:29:50,022 "Why am I looking into the face of God all of a sudden?" 667 00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:52,524 - [Voiceover] We were on a mission to change the world, 668 00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:55,427 and we were doing it by supplying psychedelics 669 00:29:55,527 --> 00:29:57,263 to help change people's thinking. 670 00:29:57,363 --> 00:29:59,098 So, it was worth the risk. 671 00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:00,766 - It began a year ago, 672 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:03,035 when to so-called free speech advocates, 673 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:05,471 who in truth have no appreciation for freedom, 674 00:30:05,571 --> 00:30:07,306 were allowed to assault and humiliate 675 00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:08,941 the symbol of law and order of policemen 676 00:30:09,041 --> 00:30:10,209 on the campus. 677 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:11,477 - What we were doing became political 678 00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:13,779 because it influenced so many people. 679 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,382 - This year, I will propose a drug control act, 680 00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:18,117 to provide stricter penalties 681 00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:21,687 for those who traffic in LSD, 682 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:25,124 and other dangerous drugs with our people. 683 00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:28,560 The time has come to stop the sale 684 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,562 of slavery to the young. 685 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,564 - The war on drugs was a war on us. 686 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:35,434 The war on drugs is a war on psychedelics, 687 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,569 things that they cannot control. 688 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,805 - [Voiceover] 20,000 young people filled the canyon 689 00:30:39,906 --> 00:30:42,508 outside the resort town of Laguna Beach. 690 00:30:42,608 --> 00:30:44,944 They came by the thousands to sleep on the ground, 691 00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:46,612 or in their cars and campers. 692 00:30:46,712 --> 00:30:47,846 - [Voiceover] We were starting to realize 693 00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:49,615 that more and more people shared the vision 694 00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,483 that we'd had, which was great. 695 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:53,452 Think, "Oh, yeah, this is really good. 696 00:30:53,552 --> 00:30:54,653 "You know, it's spreading. 697 00:30:54,753 --> 00:30:56,355 "It's spreading like we were hoping it would." 698 00:30:56,455 --> 00:30:59,425 - Drugs are just an everyday part of life here. 699 00:30:59,525 --> 00:31:01,360 It's a special day that it's really happy 700 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:06,332 and a lot of people and a lot of brotherhood. 701 00:31:06,432 --> 00:31:09,001 - I had come to Laguna, 702 00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:11,637 and I wanted to get more hash. 703 00:31:11,737 --> 00:31:13,705 While I was there, I had met everyone, 704 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:16,042 and everyone was really nice, 705 00:31:16,142 --> 00:31:19,611 but I was wondering, you know, 706 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:21,713 where's the Brotherhood? 707 00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:23,282 Who's the Brotherhood? 708 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,884 You know, they were supposedly the people who, 709 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:27,886 who get this and I actually, 710 00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:31,357 had kind of paid for that connection. 711 00:31:31,457 --> 00:31:33,559 So, I wanted to, I wanted, 712 00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:36,062 I didn't want to go through other people. 713 00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:37,997 - [Voiceover] The rock lovers keep coming. 714 00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:39,531 They leave their cars and walk. 715 00:31:39,631 --> 00:31:44,803 - The last of '66, '67, and into '68, 716 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:48,374 Laguna was like an anthill, 717 00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:51,710 and just, just these hippy-types 718 00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:55,447 just buzzin' around. 719 00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:57,183 I'll never forget my first time 720 00:31:57,283 --> 00:31:58,917 I actually parked there, 721 00:31:59,018 --> 00:32:00,919 and I walked down at sunset. 722 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:02,554 It was about 7:00 at night, 723 00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:05,257 and I looked out there, 724 00:32:05,357 --> 00:32:07,559 and as far as you could see both ways, 725 00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:10,396 there was more potheads down there smokin' 726 00:32:10,496 --> 00:32:13,199 watchin' the sun goin' down cross-legged, 727 00:32:13,299 --> 00:32:14,566 "Om ... 728 00:32:14,666 --> 00:32:16,768 "Om ..." 729 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:21,140 And I'm just thinkin', "You know, nothing. 730 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,675 "I guess this is just a free wide open place, 731 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,077 "but this is bull. 732 00:32:25,177 --> 00:32:26,512 "Marijuana's a felony. 733 00:32:26,612 --> 00:32:28,514 "All these other drugs are felonies." 734 00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:30,949 And I'm gonna, 735 00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:33,185 I'm going to make it my business. 736 00:32:38,224 --> 00:32:41,227 The orders of the police department at that time was, 737 00:32:41,327 --> 00:32:44,296 we're gonna write as many tickets as we can write, 738 00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:46,698 and we're gonna make as many arrests as you can. 739 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:51,603 That's all there is to it. 740 00:32:51,703 --> 00:32:53,272 - [Voiceover] Well, we opened up the shop, 741 00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:55,307 and people started coming from all around, 742 00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:57,576 and hanging out on the sidewalk in front there, 743 00:32:57,676 --> 00:32:59,978 and smoking pot and getting busted. 744 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,248 It just slowly sort of built up, 745 00:33:02,348 --> 00:33:03,615 that notoriety, 746 00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,284 which brought people like Purcell 747 00:33:05,384 --> 00:33:07,986 to start trying to observe us more closely. 748 00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:10,089 You know, from behind the bushes and stuff, 749 00:33:10,189 --> 00:33:13,725 watching. 750 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:16,262 - By now, we had a reputation, 751 00:33:16,362 --> 00:33:18,330 that The Brotherhood can move it, 752 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:19,598 you know, whatever it is. 753 00:33:19,698 --> 00:33:25,504 If it's good, it's pure, we can move it. 754 00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:27,139 - [Travis] The cops used to come in there, 755 00:33:27,239 --> 00:33:29,108 trying to rouse people and bust people, 756 00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:33,145 and it was just a big game of cops and robbers. 757 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:36,182 - Neil Purcell pulls into Dodge City, you know, 758 00:33:36,282 --> 00:33:40,252 and were smokin' the hooka at one of the hotels. 759 00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:42,621 He came running in there all by himself, 760 00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:43,822 "You're all under arrest!" 761 00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:45,457 Somebody pushed him into the swimming pool 762 00:33:45,557 --> 00:33:46,692 in his uniform, 763 00:33:46,792 --> 00:33:48,360 and we grabbed the hooka and everybody left. 764 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:49,861 By the time he got out of the pool, 765 00:33:49,961 --> 00:33:50,796 nobody was there. 766 00:33:50,896 --> 00:33:53,665 He fucking hated us. 767 00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:55,101 In those days, you know, 768 00:33:55,201 --> 00:33:59,305 most people would really bow to authority's rule, 769 00:33:59,405 --> 00:34:01,373 but we didn't. 770 00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:02,808 We refused to behave, 771 00:34:02,908 --> 00:34:05,811 or even to pretend to behave, we refused to. 772 00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:08,013 You know, it was just like in your face, 773 00:34:08,114 --> 00:34:11,617 "No, we're gonna be the way we are." 774 00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:13,819 We were gettin' stoned, we were smokin' dope, 775 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:17,723 takin' acid, pursuing a spiritual life. 776 00:34:17,823 --> 00:34:24,230 (dramatic trippy music) 777 00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:27,032 Everything grows organically. 778 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:30,702 You start selling acid to 10 people, then 100 people, 779 00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:32,371 then thousands of people, 780 00:34:32,471 --> 00:34:36,775 and pretty soon you have a demand. 781 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:41,280 These guys Nick, Sam, and Tim Scully made a bunch of acid. 782 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:47,186 It was the largest amount of acid 783 00:34:47,286 --> 00:34:48,854 that was available for sale 784 00:34:48,954 --> 00:34:51,056 that was real, real good, that we knew of, and so-- 785 00:34:51,157 --> 00:34:52,724 - They wanted The Brotherhood to be the distributors 786 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:53,925 of the LSD. 787 00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:56,362 Up until that point, the main distributors 788 00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:58,430 were the Hells Angels. 789 00:34:58,530 --> 00:35:00,332 - [Michael R.] We wanted the exclusive. 790 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:01,900 You don't want five people to have this. 791 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,404 You want one group to have it. 792 00:35:05,504 --> 00:35:07,606 We saw something in each other, 793 00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:09,608 Nick, and I, and Johnny. 794 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:12,944 And that was it, we were the guys. 795 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:15,247 - [Voiceover] So many miraculous things happened, 796 00:35:15,347 --> 00:35:18,350 that made it possible to do the things we did. 797 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,954 It feels like there was divine intervention involved. 798 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,290 - They came up with these bags, 799 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:27,593 these old bags of yellow tabs, 800 00:35:27,693 --> 00:35:30,262 and orange tabs, 801 00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,798 and blue tabs. 802 00:35:32,898 --> 00:35:35,701 For some reason, everyone liked the orange ones. 803 00:35:35,801 --> 00:35:38,404 - We had it all in the trunk of this car, 804 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:39,805 and turned on the radio, 805 00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:41,907 and there was Back on the Street Again, 806 00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:43,775 by the Sunshine Company. 807 00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:46,445 - And they named 'em Orange Sunshine. 808 00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:52,484 - It became, like overnight famous. 809 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:56,121 I remember flying back east with a small duffle bag 810 00:35:56,222 --> 00:35:59,425 that had baggies of Orange Sunshine. 811 00:35:59,525 --> 00:36:01,660 And you know, it'd just take five hours 812 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,795 to get it from the west coast and it'd be on the east coast 813 00:36:03,895 --> 00:36:05,297 as fast as the plane lands, 814 00:36:05,397 --> 00:36:08,500 and pretty soon the acid hits the street that night. 815 00:36:12,538 --> 00:36:14,640 Chuck Scott, he was kind of the one 816 00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:18,310 that got the New York Market established for us. 817 00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:20,812 And we had people in Laguna Beach 818 00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:24,850 that sold a lot of acid on the west coast. 819 00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:25,951 * What'd you take 820 00:36:26,051 --> 00:36:27,085 * Orange Sunshine 821 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:28,086 * Do you want more 822 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:29,921 * Yeah yeah 823 00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:31,857 - Orange Sunshine 824 00:36:31,957 --> 00:36:33,825 became synonymous with The Brotherhood. 825 00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:36,462 - It became a household name damn quick. 826 00:36:36,562 --> 00:36:38,464 Sunshine was far more popular 827 00:36:38,564 --> 00:36:40,999 than say, Windowpane, Purple Haze, 828 00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:44,002 or other things that were around. 829 00:36:44,102 --> 00:36:46,338 - [Michael K.] The Grateful Dead was always in love 830 00:36:46,438 --> 00:36:47,539 with The Brotherhood, 831 00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:49,608 because although their music was great, 832 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:52,944 it was even greater with Orange Sunshine. 833 00:36:56,982 --> 00:36:59,318 - [Michael R.] People in Hollywood were interested. 834 00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:01,186 People came from all over. 835 00:37:01,287 --> 00:37:03,289 - Acid, Sunshine? 836 00:37:03,389 --> 00:37:04,990 - It was happening in San Francisco. 837 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:06,224 It was happening in Amsterdam, 838 00:37:06,325 --> 00:37:07,826 in England, and Germany. 839 00:37:07,926 --> 00:37:09,961 The kids, all over the world, 840 00:37:10,061 --> 00:37:12,197 got this LSD at the same time. 841 00:37:12,298 --> 00:37:15,033 - [Voiceover] Paul, how often have you taken LSD? 842 00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,035 - About four times. 843 00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:19,070 - [Voiceover] Where did you get it from? 844 00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:20,171 - Oh, you know, I mean, 845 00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:21,673 if I was to say where I got it from, 846 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:22,874 you know it's illegal and everything, 847 00:37:22,974 --> 00:37:24,843 it's silly to say then. 848 00:37:24,943 --> 00:37:26,912 - It was in every city there was, 849 00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:28,246 and it had a name, 850 00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:29,915 and you know, the Orange Sunshine. 851 00:37:30,015 --> 00:37:31,417 - [Voiceover] I took some acid, 852 00:37:31,517 --> 00:37:34,753 and they were these little orange pills. 853 00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:35,921 - Were they barrel-shaped? 854 00:37:36,021 --> 00:37:37,523 - [Voiceover] Uh, yes. 855 00:37:37,623 --> 00:37:39,725 - Okay, right, you did some Orange Sunshine, Peter. 856 00:37:39,825 --> 00:37:40,926 (laughing) 857 00:37:41,026 --> 00:37:46,832 (funky music) 858 00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:49,067 - [Michael R.] We eclipsed everything. 859 00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:54,840 You know, we were the Coca-Cola of LSD. 860 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:57,709 - I never sold LSD or smuggled it to make money. 861 00:37:57,809 --> 00:37:59,445 Ever, I can honestly say that. 862 00:37:59,545 --> 00:38:02,548 - Most of us said, "Hey, the LSD should be free." 863 00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:04,049 That was John's dream. 864 00:38:04,149 --> 00:38:06,117 John's dream was everybody did LSD for free. 865 00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:09,087 He said it should be in gum machines on the corner. 866 00:38:09,187 --> 00:38:12,090 - When more money came in, it didn't matter to us. 867 00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:15,427 The money just afforded us to try and make more acid. 868 00:38:15,527 --> 00:38:17,629 Nobody was living high on the hog, 869 00:38:17,729 --> 00:38:20,432 and had Cadillacs or fancy cars. 870 00:38:20,532 --> 00:38:22,768 I mean, I drove my old pickup. 871 00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:26,972 - People maintained the same spiritual values. 872 00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:29,107 We just got bigger and we just, 873 00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:32,644 it made the machine grow in a organic way. 874 00:38:32,744 --> 00:38:36,247 We made a lot of LSD, a whole lot of it. 875 00:38:36,348 --> 00:38:39,284 (crowd cheering) 876 00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:57,969 - [Carol] At that point, you could feel the police presence, 877 00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:00,806 snooping around and asking questions, 878 00:39:00,906 --> 00:39:03,074 and watching people. 879 00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,910 - When you add the element of what we're doing 880 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:06,311 is very, very risky. 881 00:39:06,412 --> 00:39:07,946 Don't forget the fear part, 882 00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:11,316 and the prayers of "I hope we don't get caught doin' this, 883 00:39:11,417 --> 00:39:12,951 "'cause this isn't ... 884 00:39:13,051 --> 00:39:15,687 "This isn't a platinum record we're doing here. 885 00:39:15,787 --> 00:39:19,124 "This is something that could send you to jail forever." 886 00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:20,826 - Cops, or narcs, 887 00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:23,094 or whoever they who were would sit out in their cars 888 00:39:23,194 --> 00:39:26,131 and just watch people coming in and going out. 889 00:39:26,231 --> 00:39:27,933 Trying to figure who's who, 890 00:39:28,033 --> 00:39:32,571 and hook who up to what and ... 891 00:39:32,671 --> 00:39:39,177 Oh good luck. 892 00:39:39,277 --> 00:39:41,212 - The Brotherhood was known more 893 00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:43,615 as a mystical organization. 894 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:45,451 There were a lot of people that said, 895 00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:47,819 "It doesn't really exist, It's not real." 896 00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:49,488 - I never allowed my picture taken, 897 00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:51,623 so people might know my name, 898 00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:55,126 but they wouldn't know what I looked like. 899 00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:56,394 - After my first couple, 900 00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:58,163 my first trip or two to Afghanistan, 901 00:39:58,263 --> 00:40:01,232 I decided we should probably start getting fake ID. 902 00:40:01,332 --> 00:40:05,370 And, it was really easy in those days. 903 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,976 - [Michael R.] We had blank Social Security cards, 904 00:40:11,076 --> 00:40:12,143 so you could fill in a number 905 00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:13,979 on the Social Security card if you want. 906 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,647 And what you do with the birth certificate, 907 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:17,516 is you could erase everything on the birth certificate 908 00:40:17,616 --> 00:40:19,551 and put in other numbers and make a copy of it, 909 00:40:19,651 --> 00:40:20,986 and then kind of make it official. 910 00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:22,721 Put a stamp in there and then emboss it, 911 00:40:22,821 --> 00:40:24,322 and it worked. 912 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:25,991 - [Voiceover] The idea was to travel 913 00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:27,325 under a fictitious name 914 00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:28,894 in case something happened in a foreign country, 915 00:40:28,994 --> 00:40:30,829 and you could pay your way out over there, 916 00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:32,931 so it wouldn't reverberate back here 917 00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:34,432 and get us in trouble here. 918 00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:37,202 - We were using the names of dead people 919 00:40:37,302 --> 00:40:39,437 and going and getting passports. 920 00:40:39,538 --> 00:40:43,609 I had four passports of my own and three fakes. 921 00:40:43,709 --> 00:40:45,010 - I can remember going up to LA 922 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:47,679 to the Passport Bureau one time, 923 00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:49,080 and I changed my appearance. 924 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,116 I got some glasses that were just plain glass though, 925 00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:53,919 stage glasses, and changed my hair. 926 00:40:54,019 --> 00:40:56,187 I went in there and said, "I need an expedited passport, 927 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:57,623 "I'm leaving tomorrow." 928 00:40:57,723 --> 00:40:59,357 For an extra 20 bucks, man. 929 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,594 "Okay", (mumbles) walked out with a passport, 930 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,696 right then, same day. 931 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,365 Went out, went to a hotel room, 932 00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:10,201 changed my appearance, completely. 933 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:12,403 Went back the same day, 934 00:41:12,504 --> 00:41:14,105 went in a different cube, 935 00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:15,707 got in a different line, 936 00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:17,142 and got another passport, 937 00:41:17,242 --> 00:41:18,944 in the same office in the same day, 938 00:41:19,044 --> 00:41:20,145 under two different IDs. 939 00:41:20,245 --> 00:41:21,312 No computers, 940 00:41:21,412 --> 00:41:22,981 there was not cross-referencing. 941 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:24,115 - So, we were able to function 942 00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:29,020 right under their nose, basically. 943 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,090 - [Ron] We went on to smuggle more Afghani hash, 944 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:33,424 than anybody. 945 00:41:33,525 --> 00:41:34,926 We did big things. 946 00:41:35,026 --> 00:41:36,828 2400 pounds at a time. 947 00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:38,063 We weren't fuckin' around. 948 00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:40,265 We did one and another and another. 949 00:41:40,365 --> 00:41:42,568 - A couple brothers would fly to Germany. 950 00:41:42,668 --> 00:41:44,469 Get a car into Afghanistan, 951 00:41:44,570 --> 00:41:46,738 meet up with the Tilkai brothers, 952 00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:47,839 all this kind of stuff. 953 00:41:47,939 --> 00:41:50,609 Work out a deal, 200, 300, 500 pounds. 954 00:41:50,709 --> 00:41:52,177 After the dope was loaded, 955 00:41:52,277 --> 00:41:54,145 seal, weld 'em all back up, 956 00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:56,114 and maybe have it shipped to Seattle. 957 00:41:56,214 --> 00:42:00,619 The drive it from Seattle, Portland down to Laguna. 958 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,120 They were not dummies. 959 00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:05,591 They had some smart people in there, 960 00:42:05,691 --> 00:42:08,026 but they're all crooks. 961 00:42:08,126 --> 00:42:11,062 (mellow music) 962 00:42:31,249 --> 00:42:35,286 - [Ron] Winter of '67, Timothy moved to Laguna. 963 00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:38,256 He came out and joined us. 964 00:42:38,356 --> 00:42:40,158 - Tim saw in the brotherhood, 965 00:42:40,258 --> 00:42:43,228 an actualization of his own dreams, 966 00:42:43,328 --> 00:42:44,796 of his own imagination, 967 00:42:44,896 --> 00:42:46,632 and he loved it, 968 00:42:46,732 --> 00:42:48,533 and they loved him. 969 00:42:48,634 --> 00:42:50,335 - Timothy was a focal point, 970 00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:53,471 a spiritual focal point that was necessary. 971 00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:55,306 And he was brilliant. 972 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:59,878 And his spiritual insight was profound. 973 00:42:59,978 --> 00:43:02,814 You know, John Griggs was a holy, holy, holy man, 974 00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:06,351 and Timothy had a big influence on John Griggs, 975 00:43:06,451 --> 00:43:09,988 but John Griggs had a bigger influence on Timothy Leary. 976 00:43:10,088 --> 00:43:12,257 - [Carol] Timothy Leary looked up to Johnny 977 00:43:12,357 --> 00:43:14,225 as a spiritual being. 978 00:43:14,325 --> 00:43:17,696 They both had the same vision and the same dream, 979 00:43:17,796 --> 00:43:22,167 to turn the world on. 980 00:43:22,267 --> 00:43:26,237 The energy was moving so fast at that particular time. 981 00:43:26,337 --> 00:43:28,373 - It got to a point where it ... 982 00:43:28,473 --> 00:43:32,744 If somebody had some LSD, or some pot, or some hash, 983 00:43:32,844 --> 00:43:35,080 and they said this was from The Brotherhood, 984 00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:36,181 that's all they needed to say. 985 00:43:36,281 --> 00:43:40,418 It would be sold quick. 986 00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:42,053 - [Michael R.] It was starting to slip 987 00:43:42,153 --> 00:43:45,256 into a different gear. 988 00:43:45,356 --> 00:43:47,425 - Dodge City had been taken over by more hippies, 989 00:43:47,525 --> 00:43:49,895 and rock 'n rollin', 990 00:43:49,995 --> 00:43:53,331 probably crazier than ever. 991 00:43:53,431 --> 00:43:54,465 - [Voiceover] More and more people 992 00:43:54,565 --> 00:43:56,034 were peripherally involved with us, 993 00:43:56,134 --> 00:43:57,568 and then you started hearing people say, 994 00:43:57,669 --> 00:43:58,870 "You know so and so?" 995 00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:00,538 And I'd say, "No, I don't know that person." 996 00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:02,040 "Well, they're Brotherhood members." 997 00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:03,742 - It wasn't for the whole anymore. 998 00:44:03,842 --> 00:44:06,477 It was a group of a bunch of smugglers 999 00:44:06,577 --> 00:44:07,478 that worked together. 1000 00:44:07,578 --> 00:44:08,747 That was a whole 'nother thing. 1001 00:44:08,847 --> 00:44:13,218 That's kind of a business, in a way. 1002 00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:14,720 Police were starting to go, 1003 00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:18,423 "Oh my God this is getting out of control, you know?" 1004 00:44:18,523 --> 00:44:20,391 They're having big public meetings 1005 00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:23,561 with a few thousand people showing up. 1006 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:24,896 - [Voiceover] The game we played before 1007 00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:26,131 was just cat and mouse, 1008 00:44:26,231 --> 00:44:27,665 and we were always winning. 1009 00:44:27,766 --> 00:44:30,668 Things got a little more serious after that. 1010 00:44:30,769 --> 00:44:32,270 - They just wanted us outta there. 1011 00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:37,208 Laguna was tired of the hippie scene. 1012 00:44:37,308 --> 00:44:39,277 - Mystic Arts World was torched 1013 00:44:39,377 --> 00:44:41,813 by the elders of Laguna Beach. 1014 00:44:41,913 --> 00:44:44,182 They arsoned our store. 1015 00:44:44,282 --> 00:44:47,418 They threw a fire bomb through the fucking sky light, 1016 00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:51,156 and it smoke damaged everything. 1017 00:44:51,256 --> 00:44:55,260 And it was way too hard to reopen. 1018 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,863 The writing on the wall was very clear to everyone. 1019 00:44:57,963 --> 00:45:02,167 It was probably that those days were over. 1020 00:45:02,267 --> 00:45:05,203 (mellow music) 1021 00:45:10,608 --> 00:45:13,278 - [Travis] The spring '68 is when we bought a ranch 1022 00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:17,348 in Idyllwild, California called Fobes Ranch. 1023 00:45:17,448 --> 00:45:20,151 It was an experiment in communal living. 1024 00:45:20,251 --> 00:45:22,854 We were trying to find this ideal lifestyle, 1025 00:45:22,954 --> 00:45:24,522 and it was like everybody contributing, 1026 00:45:24,622 --> 00:45:28,359 everybody pitching in, whatever you can give. 1027 00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:29,995 We did everything together. 1028 00:45:30,095 --> 00:45:32,463 You know, we cooked together, ate together, 1029 00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:35,033 you know, had our ceremonies together. 1030 00:45:35,133 --> 00:45:37,869 - The whole group, the whole thing, it was family. 1031 00:45:37,969 --> 00:45:41,039 We were all a family. 1032 00:45:41,139 --> 00:45:44,509 Family values, that's what we tried to cultivate, 1033 00:45:44,609 --> 00:45:48,613 and that was a lot of Johnny's goal. 1034 00:45:48,713 --> 00:45:51,416 Everyone of my children, from day one up, 1035 00:45:51,516 --> 00:45:54,485 they knew exactly what was going on. 1036 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,856 You know, they were part of the movement. 1037 00:45:57,956 --> 00:46:00,391 If my children were playing with the 1038 00:46:00,491 --> 00:46:02,360 outside of these realms, 1039 00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:05,997 they knew not to talk about what went on, 1040 00:46:06,097 --> 00:46:10,635 and they were all very, I would say, savvy. 1041 00:46:10,735 --> 00:46:15,273 They were miniature hippies. 1042 00:46:15,373 --> 00:46:20,178 - [Michael R.] The vision was always to produce LSD, 1043 00:46:20,278 --> 00:46:23,348 but once we got to a certain stage with that, 1044 00:46:23,448 --> 00:46:27,552 and Johnny saw I was able to take care of it, 1045 00:46:27,652 --> 00:46:28,887 he moved back. 1046 00:46:28,987 --> 00:46:31,522 He wanted to live a more domestic life, 1047 00:46:31,622 --> 00:46:37,195 and I took over for him with the traveling and all of that. 1048 00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,730 - I was always trying to find Michael a girlfriend, 1049 00:46:39,831 --> 00:46:43,534 'cause he was a sincere, neat guy. 1050 00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:47,538 - I would have probably been a lot more peaceful, 1051 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:51,409 if I was just pursuing my spiritual life at the ranch, 1052 00:46:51,509 --> 00:46:57,148 but I was obeying a higher calling. 1053 00:46:57,248 --> 00:46:58,383 We were successful. 1054 00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:02,320 We sold everything and we got to where 1055 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:05,590 we were ready to take the next step, 1056 00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:08,393 which was make more. 1057 00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:12,397 So, we bought a house close to Palm Springs, 1058 00:47:12,497 --> 00:47:15,400 and we set up a lab in there. 1059 00:47:28,446 --> 00:47:31,616 - Everybody took off to Afghanistan to do these scams. 1060 00:47:31,716 --> 00:47:33,284 Well, we were tired of doing these Volkswagens 1061 00:47:33,384 --> 00:47:35,954 and getting 400, 500 pounds in them, right? 1062 00:47:36,054 --> 00:47:38,356 So, we find the finest motorhome we can, 1063 00:47:38,456 --> 00:47:40,591 and I go out to Pomona and we buy a Lazy Days, 1064 00:47:40,691 --> 00:47:42,593 and we get this guy Al that was in prison, 1065 00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:43,929 a Mexican welder, 1066 00:47:44,029 --> 00:47:46,297 and he does the car just like we want. 1067 00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:48,199 I put stash places everywhere. 1068 00:47:48,299 --> 00:47:52,503 There was probably ten different places to stash. 1069 00:47:52,603 --> 00:47:54,605 We did 1300 pounds in that one. 1070 00:47:54,705 --> 00:47:59,177 It was the first big one. 1071 00:47:59,277 --> 00:48:03,448 (upbeat hippy music) 1072 00:48:03,548 --> 00:48:07,185 - Summer of '68, I went back to Afghanistan 1073 00:48:07,285 --> 00:48:09,921 to get another load. 1074 00:48:10,021 --> 00:48:12,057 Mike Henson and David Hall, 1075 00:48:12,157 --> 00:48:15,060 they hollowed out a spot in these two surfboards. 1076 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,065 And they could just pack 'em with hash. 1077 00:48:20,165 --> 00:48:21,466 So, I took 'em along. 1078 00:48:21,566 --> 00:48:23,034 Strapped 'em to the top of the VW. 1079 00:48:23,134 --> 00:48:25,636 Two surfboards in the dead of winter in Europe, 1080 00:48:25,736 --> 00:48:26,871 drove through the Alps, 1081 00:48:26,972 --> 00:48:29,574 and down and across all the way to Afghanistan. 1082 00:48:29,674 --> 00:48:31,342 They were really out of place, 1083 00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,044 and I had a wife and a little kid with me, 1084 00:48:33,144 --> 00:48:35,546 a little girl with me. 1085 00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:36,647 * I'm waiting for a man 1086 00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:40,051 * From Afghanistan to come 1087 00:48:40,151 --> 00:48:42,487 * He got a kilo in the bottom of a suitcase 1088 00:48:42,587 --> 00:48:45,690 * In a cabin son 1089 00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:48,493 * If the captain comes you don't give him no lip 1090 00:48:48,593 --> 00:48:51,997 * But you pick it up later and you know the trip * 1091 00:48:52,097 --> 00:48:53,664 - When we came back, 1092 00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:56,367 we shipped the surfboards as unaccompanied baggage. 1093 00:48:56,467 --> 00:48:58,269 We got home and everything was cool. 1094 00:48:58,369 --> 00:49:00,238 United Airlines had had some kind of strike 1095 00:49:00,338 --> 00:49:01,906 in their cargo thing, 1096 00:49:02,007 --> 00:49:05,576 and the two surfboards sat out in the yard in the sun. 1097 00:49:05,676 --> 00:49:07,245 And they were in canvas bags, 1098 00:49:07,345 --> 00:49:09,747 that were made out of denim, blue denim. 1099 00:49:09,847 --> 00:49:12,417 And the hash started goin' off, 1100 00:49:12,517 --> 00:49:15,086 started decaying in there and swelled up. 1101 00:49:15,186 --> 00:49:16,354 So, when the strike was over 1102 00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:17,688 they went to ship the boards to LA, 1103 00:49:17,788 --> 00:49:18,789 someone picked 'em up 1104 00:49:18,889 --> 00:49:20,225 and stuff was rattling around in there. 1105 00:49:20,325 --> 00:49:22,727 They cut 'em open, they found the hash. 1106 00:49:22,827 --> 00:49:25,263 They shipped it on over, had me come pick it up. 1107 00:49:25,363 --> 00:49:26,731 Customs agents even helped me load it 1108 00:49:26,831 --> 00:49:27,865 and tie it on the car, 1109 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:30,635 rather than bust me right on the spot, 1110 00:49:30,735 --> 00:49:34,439 and then they followed me. 1111 00:49:34,539 --> 00:49:38,143 - The rule at the ranch was, not to endanger the ranch. 1112 00:49:38,243 --> 00:49:41,146 You know, don't bring the load there. 1113 00:49:41,246 --> 00:49:44,649 Travis, God bless his soul, 1114 00:49:44,749 --> 00:49:47,552 has brought more heat down people 1115 00:49:47,652 --> 00:49:51,289 than anyone I've ever known. 1116 00:49:51,389 --> 00:49:54,425 The feds followed them all the way, 1117 00:49:54,525 --> 00:49:56,627 all the way to the fucking ranch, 1118 00:49:56,727 --> 00:49:59,630 and it was a disaster. 1119 00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:02,167 - They had a plane spotting me. 1120 00:50:02,267 --> 00:50:03,901 And when I went through the locked gate, 1121 00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:05,670 and got part way up the road, 1122 00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:06,837 I remember turning back 1123 00:50:06,937 --> 00:50:07,938 and looking back down in the valley, 1124 00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:09,940 and seeing this train of cars, 1125 00:50:10,041 --> 00:50:13,611 just coming up the dirt road, just hauling ass. 1126 00:50:13,711 --> 00:50:14,779 And they swooped on us, 1127 00:50:14,879 --> 00:50:16,147 guns drawn and everything and got us. 1128 00:50:16,247 --> 00:50:17,815 And then they wanted to see what was up this road, 1129 00:50:17,915 --> 00:50:20,385 where I was going. 1130 00:50:20,485 --> 00:50:22,787 - The next thing I know, Travis pulls up, 1131 00:50:22,887 --> 00:50:25,156 and down comes the helicopter 1132 00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:28,093 that had followed him all the way in. 1133 00:50:28,193 --> 00:50:31,596 We looked out the windows and went, "Holy God!" 1134 00:50:31,696 --> 00:50:36,334 You know, they are so here. 1135 00:50:36,434 --> 00:50:38,436 - The cops pull right up in the front of the ranch there. 1136 00:50:38,536 --> 00:50:40,438 There's all these hippies everywhere. 1137 00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:41,872 You know, they don't even know what to think. 1138 00:50:41,972 --> 00:50:44,709 What the heck's this? 1139 00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:46,577 And then they took me away. 1140 00:50:52,617 --> 00:50:54,119 - Everything was blown. 1141 00:50:54,219 --> 00:50:55,686 Now passports were checked. 1142 00:50:55,786 --> 00:50:57,021 What was shipped back? 1143 00:50:57,122 --> 00:50:58,823 Those surfboards, what was in 'em? 1144 00:50:58,923 --> 00:51:02,627 I mean everything, now they know. 1145 00:51:02,727 --> 00:51:05,663 Now, legal things are starting to happen. 1146 00:51:05,763 --> 00:51:09,734 A lot of money that was earned went into legal defense 1147 00:51:09,834 --> 00:51:12,337 for whoever it was that was in trouble. 1148 00:51:12,437 --> 00:51:13,838 We were a family, you know. 1149 00:51:13,938 --> 00:51:15,973 Nobody, nobody suffered. 1150 00:51:21,011 --> 00:51:23,514 - [Michael R.] Timothy Leary and a small contingency 1151 00:51:23,614 --> 00:51:24,849 of people from Millbrook 1152 00:51:24,949 --> 00:51:27,818 came to live at the ranch. 1153 00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:30,688 - Timothy's philosophy is Taoism. 1154 00:51:30,788 --> 00:51:33,558 Taoism wants you to stay down. 1155 00:51:33,658 --> 00:51:36,261 Stay in the background, behind the scenes. 1156 00:51:36,361 --> 00:51:38,329 And when Timothy decided to run for governor, 1157 00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:41,332 it was almost against everything he'd been teaching us. 1158 00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:43,334 - I'm going to run for the governorship 1159 00:51:43,434 --> 00:51:45,002 of the state of California. 1160 00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:47,772 I think that we need a new party, 1161 00:51:47,872 --> 00:51:50,241 and by party I mean party. 1162 00:51:50,341 --> 00:51:52,710 - We were like, what? 1163 00:51:52,810 --> 00:51:55,513 This guy's sitting in the teepee, next to the pear tree, 1164 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:57,282 in the meadow at our ranch, 1165 00:51:57,382 --> 00:51:59,250 should not be running for governor. 1166 00:51:59,350 --> 00:52:01,686 * When you make love 1167 00:52:01,786 --> 00:52:04,222 * Play it to me 1168 00:52:04,322 --> 00:52:06,191 - [Carol] Johnny and I, when we got back to the teepee, 1169 00:52:06,291 --> 00:52:07,858 we both cried, 1170 00:52:07,958 --> 00:52:10,728 because it was something had changed. 1171 00:52:10,828 --> 00:52:14,365 It wasn't going in the direction that we wanted. 1172 00:52:14,465 --> 00:52:16,967 - We had this engagement in the real world out here, 1173 00:52:17,067 --> 00:52:18,569 because we were trying to change it, 1174 00:52:18,669 --> 00:52:21,138 but we didn't want to be governor, you know. 1175 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,773 I might have to put suits on 1176 00:52:22,873 --> 00:52:24,575 and dress up like I'm straight, 1177 00:52:24,675 --> 00:52:28,613 but that don't mean I have to be straight. 1178 00:52:28,713 --> 00:52:30,248 - [Travis] John Lennon wrote Come Together 1179 00:52:30,348 --> 00:52:34,285 as Timothy Leary's campaign song. 1180 00:52:34,385 --> 00:52:36,120 People hear that on the radio all the time now. 1181 00:52:36,221 --> 00:52:37,922 That song plays well, every theme song 1182 00:52:38,022 --> 00:52:40,891 for Timothy Leary's governor race. 1183 00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:43,093 He was gonna run against Ronald Reagan as governor. 1184 00:52:43,194 --> 00:52:44,829 - Let the kids get high. 1185 00:52:44,929 --> 00:52:46,664 As a matter of fact, President Nixon, 1186 00:52:46,764 --> 00:52:50,000 why don't we all turn on together. 1187 00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,168 - [Michael K.] At the time, 1188 00:52:51,269 --> 00:52:53,938 the government probably feared Tim Leary 1189 00:52:54,038 --> 00:52:56,106 more than they feared anybody. 1190 00:52:56,207 --> 00:52:57,808 Nixon thought that dope dealers 1191 00:52:57,908 --> 00:53:00,311 were among the worst criminals on Earth. 1192 00:53:00,411 --> 00:53:02,747 - We must wage what I would call total war 1193 00:53:02,847 --> 00:53:05,015 against public enemy number one 1194 00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:06,451 in the United States, 1195 00:53:06,551 --> 00:53:09,454 the problem of dangerous drugs. 1196 00:53:09,554 --> 00:53:10,955 - [Travis] That was the beginning of the end. 1197 00:53:11,055 --> 00:53:13,991 That was when they decided to target Tim. 1198 00:53:14,091 --> 00:53:16,927 They're gonna get him one way or the other. 1199 00:53:26,971 --> 00:53:28,105 - This one night, 1200 00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:31,276 and it was December 26th of '68, 1201 00:53:31,376 --> 00:53:33,778 at about 11:00 P.M., 1202 00:53:33,878 --> 00:53:38,849 I by myself, black and white police unit, full uniform, 1203 00:53:38,949 --> 00:53:41,652 and here's this car stopped 1204 00:53:41,752 --> 00:53:45,356 facing me in the middle of the road. 1205 00:53:45,456 --> 00:53:48,359 So, I walk over and I tap on the window, 1206 00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:50,295 and all of a sudden the window comes down. 1207 00:53:50,395 --> 00:53:53,030 And this grey-haired guy says, 1208 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:56,200 "What's the problem officer?", real nice. 1209 00:53:56,301 --> 00:53:58,135 And I looked at him 1210 00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:01,706 and I'm thinkin', "Holy moly, 1211 00:54:01,806 --> 00:54:04,875 "this looks like Leary." 1212 00:54:04,975 --> 00:54:07,812 I said, "May I see your driver's license?" 1213 00:54:07,912 --> 00:54:09,246 "Oh sure", real nice. 1214 00:54:09,347 --> 00:54:12,249 Come, take out, and all of a sudden, bingo. 1215 00:54:12,350 --> 00:54:15,753 Timothy Leary, 1230 Queens Street, 1216 00:54:15,853 --> 00:54:17,888 Berkeley, California. 1217 00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:19,924 I said, "Well, Mr. Leary, 1218 00:54:20,024 --> 00:54:24,395 "I smell the odor of burned marijuana", which I did. 1219 00:54:24,495 --> 00:54:27,031 I tell Leary, "Step out of the car. 1220 00:54:27,131 --> 00:54:28,766 "This is a narcotic investigation." 1221 00:54:28,866 --> 00:54:31,201 He is just coming unglued. 1222 00:54:31,302 --> 00:54:33,203 You don't have probable cause. 1223 00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:35,039 This is an illegal stop. 1224 00:54:35,139 --> 00:54:36,874 This is an illegal this and that. 1225 00:54:36,974 --> 00:54:38,509 I go in his car, 1226 00:54:38,609 --> 00:54:40,545 obvious place to look first, the ashtray. 1227 00:54:40,645 --> 00:54:43,781 There's two little roaches there. 1228 00:54:43,881 --> 00:54:46,951 Pull 'em out, and I said, 1229 00:54:47,051 --> 00:54:49,920 "You're under arrest, Mr. Leary." 1230 00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:52,189 - [Voiceover] Dr. Leary's political ambitions 1231 00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:53,524 were cut short, 1232 00:54:53,624 --> 00:54:55,526 when Governor Reagan had Leary arrested, 1233 00:54:55,626 --> 00:54:57,595 and sentenced to 30 years in jail, 1234 00:54:57,695 --> 00:55:01,298 for possession of $10 worth of marijuana. 1235 00:55:08,673 --> 00:55:13,043 - Tim was in prison and we were taking his appeal. 1236 00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:16,781 He had been arrested in Texas, bullshit charges. 1237 00:55:16,881 --> 00:55:19,717 He was arrested in California twice, 1238 00:55:19,817 --> 00:55:21,552 again no real charges, 1239 00:55:21,652 --> 00:55:25,623 but he was a political person who they feared. 1240 00:55:25,723 --> 00:55:28,393 And they would do anything to get him off the street, 1241 00:55:28,493 --> 00:55:29,994 get him into prison, 1242 00:55:30,094 --> 00:55:32,129 and try and shut him down. 1243 00:55:32,229 --> 00:55:34,932 - Timothy was a spiritual leader, 1244 00:55:35,032 --> 00:55:39,437 and to keep the path going of Orange Sunshine, 1245 00:55:39,537 --> 00:55:41,906 we did the outrageous other option 1246 00:55:42,006 --> 00:55:43,674 that no one thinks of: 1247 00:55:43,774 --> 00:55:46,844 prison break. 1248 00:55:46,944 --> 00:55:48,813 The first thing that we did is 1249 00:55:48,913 --> 00:55:50,981 looked at the prison that Timothy was in 1250 00:55:51,081 --> 00:55:54,652 and started working with this guy on the inside, 1251 00:55:54,752 --> 00:55:57,822 "What is the best way to get out of here?" 1252 00:55:57,922 --> 00:55:58,956 That was over the fence, 1253 00:55:59,056 --> 00:56:01,692 just a straight up over the fence. 1254 00:56:01,792 --> 00:56:04,328 There was a place that was perfect to go over, 1255 00:56:04,429 --> 00:56:06,130 the way the trees were situated, 1256 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:09,033 the road was virtually right fucking there. 1257 00:56:09,133 --> 00:56:11,969 And Timothy needed to start doing pullups and things 1258 00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:13,838 so he had better upper body strength, 1259 00:56:13,938 --> 00:56:17,475 and could get his ass over that fence. 1260 00:56:17,575 --> 00:56:19,544 - [Carol] I remember talks 1261 00:56:19,644 --> 00:56:21,779 around the table of the main house. 1262 00:56:21,879 --> 00:56:24,048 "Who was gonna fly him from here to there?" 1263 00:56:24,148 --> 00:56:28,085 - This went on for six months, nine months or something. 1264 00:56:34,124 --> 00:56:37,127 (eery music) 1265 00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:09,760 You know, when you take LSD with people, 1266 00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:15,466 you feel every thought, every emotion all together. 1267 00:57:15,566 --> 00:57:21,238 And so, when you take LSD with a 1268 00:57:21,338 --> 00:57:24,108 advanced spiritual being, 1269 00:57:24,208 --> 00:57:26,176 you're gonna know about it right away. 1270 00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:28,679 You will have a different kind of trip. 1271 00:57:28,779 --> 00:57:32,750 And that's what Johnny was. 1272 00:57:32,850 --> 00:57:34,251 - See, the higher doses you take, 1273 00:57:34,351 --> 00:57:36,086 the more far out it gets. 1274 00:57:36,186 --> 00:57:38,188 And it can get pretty scary too. 1275 00:57:38,288 --> 00:57:40,558 John was always there for when it got really heavy. 1276 00:57:40,658 --> 00:57:43,360 John would be the guy that could reassure you, 1277 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:45,930 grab your hand and just touch you to make it feel, 1278 00:57:46,030 --> 00:57:48,432 make you go ma, the bad stuff go away, 1279 00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:53,771 just with his presence. 1280 00:57:53,871 --> 00:57:57,241 - God always chooses unlikely things, you know. 1281 00:57:57,341 --> 00:57:58,743 Holy men are not 1282 00:57:58,843 --> 00:58:01,411 always what you really might think of. 1283 00:58:01,512 --> 00:58:03,213 They're ... 1284 00:58:03,313 --> 00:58:05,149 A good holy man has got some flaws, 1285 00:58:05,249 --> 00:58:06,751 and something wrong, 1286 00:58:06,851 --> 00:58:10,054 or maybe they're not a perfect person now to T, 1287 00:58:10,154 --> 00:58:14,191 but they have a gift that is 1288 00:58:14,291 --> 00:58:17,227 something you can't explain. 1289 00:58:17,327 --> 00:58:20,130 Johnny Griggs was that way. 1290 00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:23,500 He was the most powerful man. 1291 00:58:23,601 --> 00:58:24,935 - You know, I could never take LSD 1292 00:58:25,035 --> 00:58:27,337 with anyone that was higher than him. 1293 00:58:27,437 --> 00:58:28,906 It was unbelievable. 1294 00:58:29,006 --> 00:58:31,108 He really was something. 1295 00:58:31,208 --> 00:58:34,144 (eery music) 1296 00:58:38,215 --> 00:58:39,750 - We were in our teepee, 1297 00:58:39,850 --> 00:58:42,086 up in Idyllwild at the ranch, 1298 00:58:42,186 --> 00:58:44,855 and Johnny wanted to give thanks 1299 00:58:44,955 --> 00:58:46,957 to the universe. 1300 00:58:47,057 --> 00:58:49,126 And we got things ready in the teepee, 1301 00:58:49,226 --> 00:58:50,795 and food prepared, 1302 00:58:50,895 --> 00:58:52,930 and our firewood stacked and stuff, 1303 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:57,067 and we were gonna have a session. 1304 00:58:57,167 --> 00:59:00,470 My mother, and father, and grandmother had all come up, 1305 00:59:00,571 --> 00:59:03,874 and they took the children with them, 1306 00:59:03,974 --> 00:59:07,044 so it was just Johnny and I. 1307 00:59:07,144 --> 00:59:12,216 I took the mescaline, and I thought Johnny did. 1308 00:59:12,316 --> 00:59:15,853 I had no idea. 1309 00:59:15,953 --> 00:59:18,322 It hadn't been very long, 1310 00:59:18,422 --> 00:59:20,190 maybe an hour. 1311 00:59:20,290 --> 00:59:25,229 Johnny says, "Something feels not right to me." 1312 00:59:25,329 --> 00:59:26,831 And I said, "What do you mean, not right?" 1313 00:59:26,931 --> 00:59:28,498 And I said, "I feel just fine." 1314 00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,168 He said, "Well, I didn't take what you took." 1315 00:59:31,268 --> 00:59:34,304 He says, "I was testing this new stuff", 1316 00:59:34,404 --> 00:59:37,241 that had just been given to him. 1317 00:59:37,341 --> 00:59:40,177 Johnny decided that whatever was happening 1318 00:59:40,277 --> 00:59:42,212 to his body wasn't right. 1319 00:59:42,312 --> 00:59:46,150 He said, "Call out", because other people in their teepees 1320 00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:48,185 were going to trip that night also. 1321 00:59:48,285 --> 00:59:49,586 It was gonna be a group thing, 1322 00:59:49,687 --> 00:59:51,889 but we had started early. 1323 00:59:51,989 --> 00:59:55,025 So, we stayed together most of the night, 1324 00:59:55,125 --> 00:59:58,195 but he was physically struggling, 1325 00:59:58,295 --> 01:00:03,067 which I had never ever seen before. 1326 01:00:03,167 --> 01:00:06,236 At one point, I was walking out the teepee door, 1327 01:00:06,336 --> 01:00:08,572 and he said, "Stand there for a minute." 1328 01:00:08,673 --> 01:00:11,608 And I stood there, and he said, 1329 01:00:11,709 --> 01:00:14,511 "I do believe you are the most beautiful thing 1330 01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,114 "I have ever seen in my life." 1331 01:00:17,214 --> 01:00:19,049 And just then, like, I don't know, 1332 01:00:19,149 --> 01:00:23,220 it was like electricity went through me. 1333 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,455 You know, it was ... 1334 01:00:25,555 --> 01:00:28,793 I felt like he was saying goodbye, 1335 01:00:28,893 --> 01:00:30,360 and I just panicked. 1336 01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:32,797 I said, "Johnny please, please don't leave me. 1337 01:00:32,897 --> 01:00:35,299 "I mean if that's what's going on, I can't. 1338 01:00:35,399 --> 01:00:37,401 "I don't wanna be here without you." 1339 01:00:37,501 --> 01:00:39,904 You know, he was my teacher, 1340 01:00:40,004 --> 01:00:43,273 my lover, my best friend. 1341 01:00:43,373 --> 01:00:46,576 You know, he was my boyfriend, you know. 1342 01:00:46,677 --> 01:00:49,313 And, he said, "Mama", 1343 01:00:49,413 --> 01:00:52,216 he said, "we got it made." 1344 01:00:52,316 --> 01:00:56,153 The sun just came up and he fell forward. 1345 01:00:56,253 --> 01:00:59,189 (dramatic music) 1346 01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:09,800 I ran out of the teepee and there were some other people. 1347 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,669 Mark got his dad to pull up the pickup. 1348 01:01:17,241 --> 01:01:19,710 We went down to the Hemet hospital. 1349 01:01:31,756 --> 01:01:35,926 Mark and I, we got ahold of Michael. 1350 01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:39,930 - I was talking to Carol on the phone. 1351 01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:43,267 And the doctor came to her. 1352 01:01:43,367 --> 01:01:47,204 I could hear him, said, "He's gone." 1353 01:01:47,304 --> 01:01:50,040 When they told her that Johnny 1354 01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:53,610 had died, she started crying and screaming. 1355 01:02:00,650 --> 01:02:02,286 - And I handed the phone to Mark, 1356 01:02:02,386 --> 01:02:05,289 and Mark said, "You know, it's true." 1357 01:02:05,389 --> 01:02:08,192 Michael couldn't even accept it. 1358 01:02:08,292 --> 01:02:09,393 None of us could. 1359 01:02:09,493 --> 01:02:11,862 It just, we were not prepared. 1360 01:02:11,962 --> 01:02:13,363 Boom, 1361 01:02:13,463 --> 01:02:17,802 the teacher was gone. 1362 01:02:17,902 --> 01:02:20,504 - He took the psilocybin, 1363 01:02:20,604 --> 01:02:22,873 and we don't know what happened. 1364 01:02:22,973 --> 01:02:24,508 I had taken it many times. 1365 01:02:24,608 --> 01:02:29,213 We had all taken it before. 1366 01:02:29,313 --> 01:02:32,249 So, I took some, 1367 01:02:32,349 --> 01:02:34,418 'cause I figured fuck it, I'll go with him. 1368 01:02:34,518 --> 01:02:37,855 I don't know, I wasn't sure what to do. 1369 01:02:37,955 --> 01:02:39,890 It didn't kill me. 1370 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:43,994 It didn't kill me. 1371 01:02:44,094 --> 01:02:45,462 He was only 26. 1372 01:02:58,508 --> 01:03:02,779 (somber music) 1373 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,415 - [Carol] After Johnny died, I think that's what 1374 01:03:05,515 --> 01:03:09,553 shattered a lot of the southern California movement. 1375 01:03:09,653 --> 01:03:12,289 I think it shook a lot of people's faith. 1376 01:03:12,389 --> 01:03:13,958 - It left some people adrift. 1377 01:03:14,058 --> 01:03:16,560 Some people didn't have enough of their own, 1378 01:03:16,660 --> 01:03:18,528 their own, know who they were themselves, 1379 01:03:18,628 --> 01:03:20,430 so many people relied so much on John 1380 01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:23,700 that it left them adrift. 1381 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,269 A lot of people split at that point, 1382 01:03:25,369 --> 01:03:28,438 after John died, everybody just scattered. 1383 01:03:28,538 --> 01:03:30,274 - The Brothers sent me over to Hawaii. 1384 01:03:30,374 --> 01:03:33,643 They've got a big house there. 1385 01:03:33,743 --> 01:03:36,080 I just remember in my mind, 1386 01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:39,449 it was hell being in paradise. 1387 01:03:39,549 --> 01:03:42,052 To feel so broken, 1388 01:03:42,152 --> 01:03:46,523 and then to be in such a beautiful place, 1389 01:03:46,623 --> 01:03:49,626 But I, you know, held up. 1390 01:03:49,726 --> 01:03:52,129 You know, because I had children. 1391 01:03:52,229 --> 01:03:53,563 I just knew I had to be strong. 1392 01:03:53,663 --> 01:03:55,399 No matter what, I had children, 1393 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:58,568 and I had to be strong, I had a baby at my breast. 1394 01:03:58,668 --> 01:04:01,671 Yeah. 1395 01:04:01,771 --> 01:04:06,043 That's a hard thing to do. 1396 01:04:06,143 --> 01:04:08,445 - Travis and other people went to Hawaii, 1397 01:04:08,545 --> 01:04:12,950 leaving more of a skeleton crew at the ranch. 1398 01:04:13,050 --> 01:04:15,519 I made sure there was money for things to work. 1399 01:04:15,619 --> 01:04:18,755 I took care of Carol and the kids. 1400 01:04:18,855 --> 01:04:21,458 I had to keep in motion. 1401 01:04:21,558 --> 01:04:23,493 Big things were going on. 1402 01:04:23,593 --> 01:04:25,029 Big, big things were going on. 1403 01:04:25,129 --> 01:04:27,531 I cannot let go of this, I have to. 1404 01:04:27,631 --> 01:04:29,466 The only way to accomplish what was started 1405 01:04:29,566 --> 01:04:31,801 is to continue to follow the path, 1406 01:04:31,902 --> 01:04:33,603 kind of like that little trail of crumbs 1407 01:04:33,703 --> 01:04:39,509 wherever God is taking me. 1408 01:04:39,609 --> 01:04:43,513 I got very high at the ranch once, by myself. 1409 01:04:43,613 --> 01:04:46,516 I think I took five doses of Sunshine or something, 1410 01:04:46,616 --> 01:04:48,718 you know, maybe 10, 1411 01:04:48,818 --> 01:04:51,755 and John came to me. 1412 01:04:51,855 --> 01:04:55,559 And we didn't talk, but there was energy exchanged, 1413 01:04:55,659 --> 01:04:57,894 and information and things. 1414 01:04:57,995 --> 01:05:02,766 And it was positively him, positively him. 1415 01:05:02,866 --> 01:05:07,671 We spent the day together, and we made a few plans. 1416 01:05:07,771 --> 01:05:12,242 We focused things, or we clarified things, 1417 01:05:12,342 --> 01:05:14,678 and I knew, I knew that we were gonna go forward 1418 01:05:14,778 --> 01:05:17,214 and really kick some ass now. 1419 01:05:17,314 --> 01:05:19,883 We were gonna do it and we did. 1420 01:05:19,984 --> 01:05:23,587 We made 10 kilos of LSD after that, 1421 01:05:23,687 --> 01:05:30,127 10 kilos of pure white LSD. 1422 01:05:30,227 --> 01:05:33,563 No one's ever done that before, 1423 01:05:33,663 --> 01:05:35,432 or since. 1424 01:05:35,532 --> 01:05:38,768 It's a lot lot. 1425 01:05:38,868 --> 01:05:41,171 - 100 million doses. 1426 01:05:50,214 --> 01:05:52,082 - [Carol] Most of the meetings about 1427 01:05:52,182 --> 01:05:53,883 planning Timothy's escape 1428 01:05:53,984 --> 01:05:59,756 were all done at the ranch. 1429 01:05:59,856 --> 01:06:01,591 Michael finally came up. 1430 01:06:01,691 --> 01:06:03,593 He had a date and times, 1431 01:06:03,693 --> 01:06:05,562 and they're, everybody's gonna be waiting, 1432 01:06:05,662 --> 01:06:07,764 and it's gonna happen. 1433 01:06:07,864 --> 01:06:10,767 - There were people from New York at the ranch, 1434 01:06:10,867 --> 01:06:12,269 and other people, 1435 01:06:12,369 --> 01:06:14,871 and they gathered everyone together and said, 1436 01:06:14,971 --> 01:06:17,641 "Everybody, except the people live at the ranch 1437 01:06:17,741 --> 01:06:19,876 "need to leave now. 1438 01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,845 "Go now. 1439 01:06:21,945 --> 01:06:23,480 "Don't be here." 1440 01:06:23,580 --> 01:06:25,415 And a couple of people had been growing some pot plants. 1441 01:06:25,515 --> 01:06:26,883 I said, "You know what? 1442 01:06:26,983 --> 01:06:29,453 "Pull those fucking pot plants up and get everything. 1443 01:06:29,553 --> 01:06:30,654 "We gotta get ready. 1444 01:06:30,754 --> 01:06:34,424 "The onslaught, they're gonna come here." 1445 01:06:34,524 --> 01:06:36,260 Timothy needed to use a blanket 1446 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,164 to keep the barbed wire and razor wire away, 1447 01:06:40,264 --> 01:06:43,767 and then drop down and wait at a certain place. 1448 01:06:43,867 --> 01:06:47,304 And this all had to be timed. 1449 01:06:47,404 --> 01:06:49,839 It all turns out that it was perfect. 1450 01:06:49,939 --> 01:06:53,477 - $17,000, that what we gave the weathermen, 1451 01:06:53,577 --> 01:06:57,514 what they charged for picking him up outside the prison. 1452 01:06:57,614 --> 01:06:59,183 - They drove off a little ways. 1453 01:06:59,283 --> 01:07:00,917 He changed clothes immediately. 1454 01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:02,619 Then they met another car, 1455 01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:03,687 and they gave the clothes, 1456 01:07:03,787 --> 01:07:05,622 his prison clothes to the other car, 1457 01:07:05,722 --> 01:07:07,757 who turned around and went south. 1458 01:07:07,857 --> 01:07:10,627 They north with Timothy where there was a motorhome 1459 01:07:10,727 --> 01:07:14,964 that took him to Canada and they split from there. 1460 01:07:15,065 --> 01:07:17,134 - Dr. Timothy Leary, formerly of Harvard, 1461 01:07:17,234 --> 01:07:19,603 now known as the high priest of the drug cult 1462 01:07:19,703 --> 01:07:21,004 escaped during the night 1463 01:07:21,105 --> 01:07:23,807 from the California Men's Colony of San Luis Obispo. 1464 01:07:23,907 --> 01:07:25,375 Apparently he simply walked out 1465 01:07:25,475 --> 01:07:29,913 of the minimum security prison. 1466 01:07:30,013 --> 01:07:32,282 - [Voiceover] September 15th, 1970. 1467 01:07:32,382 --> 01:07:34,118 This is the fourth communication 1468 01:07:34,218 --> 01:07:36,220 from the Weathermen Underground. 1469 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,654 The Weathermen Underground has had 1470 01:07:37,754 --> 01:07:39,823 the honor and pleasure of helping Dr. Timothy Leary 1471 01:07:39,923 --> 01:07:41,191 escaped from the POW camp 1472 01:07:41,291 --> 01:07:44,128 of San Luis Obispo, California. 1473 01:07:44,228 --> 01:07:46,730 Dr. Leary was being held against his will, 1474 01:07:46,830 --> 01:07:50,467 and against the will of millions of kids in this country. 1475 01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:52,001 He was a political prisoner, 1476 01:07:52,102 --> 01:07:54,171 captured for the work he did in helping all of us 1477 01:07:54,271 --> 01:07:56,039 begin the task of creating a new culture 1478 01:07:56,140 --> 01:07:57,874 on the barren wasteland that has been imposed 1479 01:07:57,974 --> 01:08:00,577 on this country by Democrats, Republicans, 1480 01:08:00,677 --> 01:08:03,213 Capitalists, and creeps. 1481 01:08:03,313 --> 01:08:05,582 LSD and grass, like the herbs, and cactus, 1482 01:08:05,682 --> 01:08:07,717 and mushrooms, of the American Indians, 1483 01:08:07,817 --> 01:08:09,085 and countless civilizations 1484 01:08:09,186 --> 01:08:10,687 that have existed on this planet 1485 01:08:10,787 --> 01:08:12,422 will help us make a future world 1486 01:08:12,522 --> 01:08:14,824 where it will be possible to live in peace. 1487 01:08:14,924 --> 01:08:17,561 Now, we are at war. 1488 01:08:28,605 --> 01:08:31,675 - I had this little short 1489 01:08:31,775 --> 01:08:34,844 fling thing in life. 1490 01:08:34,944 --> 01:08:37,113 This man from New York, 1491 01:08:37,214 --> 01:08:39,749 he wanted to wine and dine me, 1492 01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:42,085 take me 1493 01:08:42,186 --> 01:08:45,189 to Jamaica, me and the kids. 1494 01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:47,757 And I considered taking off and just 1495 01:08:47,857 --> 01:08:53,830 go to some foreign country and drop out for a little while. 1496 01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:56,866 And Michael'd come up with some 1497 01:08:56,966 --> 01:08:59,102 really beautiful, gorgeous woman. 1498 01:08:59,203 --> 01:09:00,737 She was French or Moroccan. 1499 01:09:00,837 --> 01:09:02,772 She had the accent, the looks. 1500 01:09:02,872 --> 01:09:05,909 She was just so fabulous, you know? 1501 01:09:06,009 --> 01:09:07,577 I felt jealous. 1502 01:09:07,677 --> 01:09:10,046 I'd never ever, I didn't know what the feeling was, 1503 01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:11,481 'cause I'd never felt that before. 1504 01:09:11,581 --> 01:09:13,717 I never had to, not like that. 1505 01:09:13,817 --> 01:09:17,721 And, they went off, went under the waterfall tripping, 1506 01:09:17,821 --> 01:09:19,623 and I tell my girlfriends, 1507 01:09:19,723 --> 01:09:22,426 "God, what is, why do I feel this way? 1508 01:09:22,526 --> 01:09:24,794 "Why do I feel so anxious and torn 1509 01:09:24,894 --> 01:09:28,665 "that he's all gone off with this woman, you know." 1510 01:09:28,765 --> 01:09:30,434 I says, "I don't know." 1511 01:09:30,534 --> 01:09:33,303 I says, "I think I love Michael." 1512 01:09:33,403 --> 01:09:35,405 - I was with someone on 1513 01:09:35,505 --> 01:09:37,507 the top of the mountain, 1514 01:09:37,607 --> 01:09:39,843 that was my lover for a while. 1515 01:09:39,943 --> 01:09:41,445 And I loved this woman. 1516 01:09:41,545 --> 01:09:42,846 I loved her a lot, 1517 01:09:42,946 --> 01:09:45,349 but I realized, just like 1518 01:09:45,449 --> 01:09:47,517 a bell went off, 1519 01:09:47,617 --> 01:09:50,254 that I loved Carol, 1520 01:09:50,354 --> 01:09:53,590 and that she was the only woman I wanted. 1521 01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:56,192 I just wanted Carol. 1522 01:09:56,293 --> 01:09:58,528 I mean, I just knew it. 1523 01:09:58,628 --> 01:09:59,929 Boom! 1524 01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:01,931 I said, "I'm gonna do everything I can, 1525 01:10:02,031 --> 01:10:04,033 "and come, and come back here, 1526 01:10:04,133 --> 01:10:08,305 "and I'm gonna try and get her to marry me." 1527 01:10:08,405 --> 01:10:09,873 - [Carol] When he showed up at the ranch, 1528 01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:12,008 with his little suitcase, you know, 1529 01:10:12,108 --> 01:10:13,142 I was in the kitchen, 1530 01:10:13,243 --> 01:10:14,378 and I was hand-squeezing orange juice, 1531 01:10:14,478 --> 01:10:16,880 and making oatmeal for the kids, 1532 01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:19,283 and all of a sudden he appeared. 1533 01:10:19,383 --> 01:10:23,620 Said, "I just came up to tell you that I loved you." 1534 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,155 - I told Carol, "I gotta have you, baby." 1535 01:10:26,256 --> 01:10:27,691 - And I said, "My God!" 1536 01:10:27,791 --> 01:10:28,692 You know? 1537 01:10:28,792 --> 01:10:30,193 I mean, I had no idea he had 1538 01:10:30,294 --> 01:10:32,996 those kind of feelings for me, you know. 1539 01:10:33,096 --> 01:10:36,900 I said, "Well, I was thinking about running off to Jamaica" 1540 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,235 And he said, "My God, what about me?" 1541 01:10:39,336 --> 01:10:41,037 And I just looked at him and said, 1542 01:10:41,137 --> 01:10:42,706 "Yeah, what about you? 1543 01:10:42,806 --> 01:10:44,841 "You know, I'm totally in love with you. 1544 01:10:44,941 --> 01:10:48,177 "I was just trying to escape somewhere, you know?" 1545 01:10:48,278 --> 01:10:53,950 He threw a kiss on me and we've never been apart. 1546 01:10:54,050 --> 01:10:56,986 - Shortly after that, we got married. 1547 01:10:57,086 --> 01:11:00,023 (mellow music) 1548 01:11:13,169 --> 01:11:16,740 In the early 70s, we had become 1549 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,444 an international 1550 01:11:20,544 --> 01:11:23,079 situation. 1551 01:11:23,179 --> 01:11:27,283 We made a really huge amount of acid in Europe. 1552 01:11:27,384 --> 01:11:30,954 And we set up hash oil factories in Lebanon. 1553 01:11:31,054 --> 01:11:32,956 - At that particular point, 1554 01:11:33,056 --> 01:11:35,525 The Brotherhood was the largest 1555 01:11:35,625 --> 01:11:39,529 supplier of psychedelics, 1556 01:11:39,629 --> 01:11:42,866 in the world. 1557 01:11:42,966 --> 01:11:46,269 - We tried to get the feds involved. 1558 01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:48,938 We tried FBI. 1559 01:11:49,038 --> 01:11:51,541 Not anything doin'. 1560 01:11:51,641 --> 01:11:54,043 We tried the B and DD. 1561 01:11:54,143 --> 01:11:57,080 They said, "Oh, we've heard about this group. 1562 01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:58,615 "It's nothing." 1563 01:11:58,715 --> 01:12:01,985 And we said, "Look, this is what we have." 1564 01:12:02,085 --> 01:12:05,589 We brought in a couple boxes of records, 1565 01:12:05,689 --> 01:12:08,257 showing this whole tie-in. 1566 01:12:08,358 --> 01:12:11,060 There is an organization called 1567 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,296 The Brotherhood of Eternal Love. 1568 01:12:13,397 --> 01:12:17,767 Yes, it's incorporated as a religious organization, 1569 01:12:17,867 --> 01:12:21,137 but within that organization is this core group 1570 01:12:21,237 --> 01:12:26,175 of big time buyers and distributors, 1571 01:12:26,275 --> 01:12:29,145 and it's just not Laguna Beach. 1572 01:12:29,245 --> 01:12:31,247 It is nationwide, 1573 01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:35,318 and now we're finding out it's international. 1574 01:12:35,419 --> 01:12:40,724 And the feds were just spellbound. 1575 01:12:40,824 --> 01:12:43,259 - We really became a target. 1576 01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:44,961 The crosshairs were on us, 1577 01:12:45,061 --> 01:12:48,164 and on me a lot. 1578 01:12:48,264 --> 01:12:49,833 We knew our phone was tapped, 1579 01:12:49,933 --> 01:12:52,502 we knew that we were under surveillance a lot of time. 1580 01:12:52,602 --> 01:12:54,638 - It took 'em another year 1581 01:12:54,738 --> 01:12:57,173 of watching and tapping and foll-- 1582 01:12:57,273 --> 01:12:59,008 they followed me to Saint Martin, 1583 01:12:59,108 --> 01:13:01,044 followed me ski trips, 1584 01:13:01,144 --> 01:13:03,980 followed me to Europe, followed me everywhere. 1585 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,381 They didn't catch me. 1586 01:13:05,482 --> 01:13:06,950 They didn't catch me smuggling. 1587 01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:08,351 They caught me with a whole lot of money, 1588 01:13:08,452 --> 01:13:10,019 but they didn't catch me with any dope. 1589 01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:13,457 - They never got any hash. 1590 01:13:13,557 --> 01:13:16,159 So, how can you be convicted of smuggling 1591 01:13:16,259 --> 01:13:17,994 3000 pounds of hash, 1592 01:13:18,094 --> 01:13:20,830 when they don't even have one pound? 1593 01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:22,165 They don't have an ounce. 1594 01:13:22,265 --> 01:13:23,567 They don't have anything. 1595 01:13:23,667 --> 01:13:25,969 - There was never a case that the government had made 1596 01:13:26,069 --> 01:13:30,474 that really had any substantial criminality underlying it. 1597 01:13:30,574 --> 01:13:32,308 They just didn't have it. 1598 01:13:32,408 --> 01:13:34,243 So, what the government had to do 1599 01:13:34,343 --> 01:13:36,646 was bring the Hell's Angels into the case, 1600 01:13:36,746 --> 01:13:37,981 and say to the world, 1601 01:13:38,081 --> 01:13:39,583 "These guys are working with the Hell's Angels. 1602 01:13:39,683 --> 01:13:40,850 "They're making acid. 1603 01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:42,151 "Hell's Angels are distributing the acid. 1604 01:13:42,251 --> 01:13:43,386 "Killing everybody. 1605 01:13:43,487 --> 01:13:45,154 "They're the nastiest people on Earth, 1606 01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:47,724 "so these guys can't be any god damn good either." 1607 01:13:47,824 --> 01:13:50,159 That was their whole theory of the conspiracy. 1608 01:13:50,259 --> 01:13:51,427 Put the bad together with the good 1609 01:13:51,528 --> 01:13:57,801 and bring the good down. 1610 01:13:57,901 --> 01:14:00,604 - The Brotherhood indictment was a conspiracy charge 1611 01:14:00,704 --> 01:14:02,405 for everything, you name it. 1612 01:14:02,506 --> 01:14:06,275 It was conspiracy engulfed it all, from hash smuggling, 1613 01:14:06,375 --> 01:14:07,877 weed smuggling, 1614 01:14:07,977 --> 01:14:10,680 manufacturing of LSD. 1615 01:14:10,780 --> 01:14:16,853 They were charged with it all. 1616 01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:20,056 Michael and Eleanora, our lawyers called me, 1617 01:14:20,156 --> 01:14:23,092 and said, "I do believe 1618 01:14:23,192 --> 01:14:26,996 "it's time to leave." 1619 01:14:27,096 --> 01:14:28,097 - [Voiceover] Over the weekend, 1620 01:14:28,197 --> 01:14:29,933 in a concerted multi-state raid, 1621 01:14:30,033 --> 01:14:31,367 federal authorities captured members 1622 01:14:31,467 --> 01:14:33,369 of the international drug-smuggling ring 1623 01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:35,438 The Brotherhood of Eternal Love. 1624 01:14:35,539 --> 01:14:37,206 - When the indictment came out, 1625 01:14:37,306 --> 01:14:38,942 it was like (mimics explosion). 1626 01:14:39,042 --> 01:14:41,244 They hit everywhere, they got everybody at once. 1627 01:14:41,344 --> 01:14:42,378 It was like, bam! 1628 01:14:42,478 --> 01:14:43,813 You know, everybody was busted. 1629 01:14:43,913 --> 01:14:45,782 - [Travis] They were busting my ranch. 1630 01:14:45,882 --> 01:14:47,884 They were busting Chuck Scott's house. 1631 01:14:47,984 --> 01:14:49,786 They were busting Jack Harrington's house, 1632 01:14:49,886 --> 01:14:51,087 looking for Gordon. 1633 01:14:51,187 --> 01:14:53,623 They were going after everybody, man. 1634 01:14:53,723 --> 01:14:56,125 - [Voiceover] Federal, state, and local narcotics officers 1635 01:14:56,225 --> 01:14:58,461 arrested 15 of 29 persons indicted 1636 01:14:58,562 --> 01:15:00,263 by the Orange County grand jury. 1637 01:15:00,363 --> 01:15:01,164 - [Voiceover] Authorities seized 1638 01:15:01,264 --> 01:15:03,099 7.9 million dollars in drugs, 1639 01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,134 and two LSD laboratories. 1640 01:15:05,234 --> 01:15:07,804 - At the time, it was a unprecedented 1641 01:15:07,904 --> 01:15:10,907 coordinated effort among the feds, 1642 01:15:11,007 --> 01:15:12,776 and all the local people; 1643 01:15:12,876 --> 01:15:15,344 California, Oregon, Hawaii. 1644 01:15:15,444 --> 01:15:18,414 The news people were all over it. 1645 01:15:18,514 --> 01:15:23,252 They were gonna put us down once and for all. 1646 01:15:23,352 --> 01:15:26,255 Mark Stanton, and Russell and his wife and kids, 1647 01:15:26,355 --> 01:15:27,523 everybody had kids, 1648 01:15:27,624 --> 01:15:29,593 me and Carol and all, didn't know what to do, 1649 01:15:29,693 --> 01:15:34,197 so we went to the Barnum and Bailey Circus. 1650 01:15:34,297 --> 01:15:38,101 And we just sort of stayed there all day. 1651 01:15:38,201 --> 01:15:42,171 We could be anonymous in it. 1652 01:15:42,271 --> 01:15:43,873 And we saw the first show, 1653 01:15:43,973 --> 01:15:45,208 and then it got finished. 1654 01:15:45,308 --> 01:15:47,110 Saw the next show, 1655 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:50,213 and we would sometimes go out to the car 1656 01:15:50,313 --> 01:15:51,881 and listen to the radio a little bit, 1657 01:15:51,981 --> 01:15:53,717 and see if we could hear anything else. 1658 01:15:53,817 --> 01:15:55,151 - [Voiceover] Three more member 1659 01:15:55,251 --> 01:15:56,285 of the Brotherhood of Eternal Love 1660 01:15:56,385 --> 01:15:57,621 have been caught in an overnight raid 1661 01:15:57,721 --> 01:15:59,789 by authorities in Orange County, California. 1662 01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:01,157 - [Voiceover] 14 members of The Brotherhood, 1663 01:16:01,257 --> 01:16:04,160 including Dr. Timothy Leary, remain fugitives. 1664 01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:04,961 Authorities now-- 1665 01:16:05,061 --> 01:16:05,862 - That was it. 1666 01:16:05,962 --> 01:16:08,231 That was the day that was over. 1667 01:16:08,331 --> 01:16:10,900 You know, everything that we had known before that 1668 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,401 was pretty much finished. 1669 01:16:12,501 --> 01:16:14,638 - We just ran. 1670 01:16:14,738 --> 01:16:16,840 We all just ran, 1671 01:16:16,940 --> 01:16:23,613 and hid, with our kids. 1672 01:16:23,713 --> 01:16:25,081 - [Carol] We were all separating 1673 01:16:25,181 --> 01:16:27,817 and going different places to hide out. 1674 01:16:27,917 --> 01:16:29,052 - [Voiceover] The pre-dawn sweep 1675 01:16:29,152 --> 01:16:30,253 of southern and northern California, 1676 01:16:30,353 --> 01:16:31,387 Hawaii, and Oregon, 1677 01:16:31,487 --> 01:16:33,589 netted 1.5 million LSD tablets, 1678 01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:35,391 30 gallons of hashish oil. 1679 01:16:35,491 --> 01:16:37,694 - Somebody warned me that they knew where I was 1680 01:16:37,794 --> 01:16:39,228 and they were coming to get me. 1681 01:16:39,328 --> 01:16:40,897 - So, Travis and I left. 1682 01:16:40,997 --> 01:16:42,598 We left that afternoon. 1683 01:16:42,699 --> 01:16:45,201 And we flew from there to Belize, 1684 01:16:45,301 --> 01:16:47,771 and then from Belize we took a bus, 1685 01:16:47,871 --> 01:16:50,439 and then we switched our IDs as we crossed the border. 1686 01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:55,244 We went into Yucatan with new ID. 1687 01:16:55,344 --> 01:16:57,747 - Michael and I went to the Caribbean. 1688 01:16:57,847 --> 01:17:00,216 We just bought tickets, paid cash. 1689 01:17:00,316 --> 01:17:03,286 Gone, no record, nobody. 1690 01:17:03,386 --> 01:17:05,855 We went to the Bahamas and Cayman Islands, 1691 01:17:05,955 --> 01:17:08,257 and we ended up in Jamaica. 1692 01:17:08,357 --> 01:17:11,961 We were underground for sure. 1693 01:17:12,061 --> 01:17:13,629 We had to change our identity, 1694 01:17:13,730 --> 01:17:14,964 but we were good at that. 1695 01:17:15,064 --> 01:17:16,232 We were like chameleons, 1696 01:17:16,332 --> 01:17:19,635 whatever the situation called for, you know. 1697 01:17:19,736 --> 01:17:21,404 Be straight, be not straight. 1698 01:17:21,504 --> 01:17:22,972 You know, be groovy, 1699 01:17:23,072 --> 01:17:24,941 whatever we needed to be. 1700 01:17:25,041 --> 01:17:27,376 Our children, you know, they all kept their first names. 1701 01:17:27,476 --> 01:17:30,246 You know, they knew if somebody asked them questions, 1702 01:17:30,346 --> 01:17:32,248 they just don't answer certain questions. 1703 01:17:32,348 --> 01:17:36,152 They don't know, they're just kids. 1704 01:17:36,252 --> 01:17:39,388 I had to change their original transcripts 1705 01:17:39,488 --> 01:17:42,358 into a different name, 1706 01:17:42,458 --> 01:17:47,630 so we had records to get 'em into school. 1707 01:17:47,731 --> 01:17:49,398 The future was uncertain. 1708 01:17:49,498 --> 01:17:52,736 - [Michael R.] I did not know when we went to New Mexico 1709 01:17:52,836 --> 01:17:55,238 what was gonna happen. 1710 01:17:55,338 --> 01:17:58,574 I bought some jewelry equipment and stone cutting equipment, 1711 01:17:58,674 --> 01:18:02,345 and I started making a living with that. 1712 01:18:02,445 --> 01:18:05,581 - We were just at the crest of the wave of the big boom 1713 01:18:05,681 --> 01:18:07,616 of Indian turquoise jewelry, 1714 01:18:07,717 --> 01:18:11,420 when it went off in the 70s. 1715 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,622 - Well, I spent 11 years as a fugitive. 1716 01:18:13,723 --> 01:18:15,424 Raised my family as a fugitive, 1717 01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:17,193 living all over world. 1718 01:18:17,293 --> 01:18:20,263 And I actually hooked up with Michael Randall, 1719 01:18:20,363 --> 01:18:23,867 and Chuck Scott who I hadn't seen in years. 1720 01:18:23,967 --> 01:18:25,534 Kind of rejoined the crew. 1721 01:18:25,634 --> 01:18:27,370 I bought a ton of hash, 1722 01:18:27,470 --> 01:18:30,439 so I gave them the whole Moroccan load to sell. 1723 01:18:30,539 --> 01:18:35,178 I just let them do it, and they moved it all. 1724 01:18:35,278 --> 01:18:37,180 - We were in the studio one day, 1725 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,648 and the phone rang and it was from Travis, 1726 01:18:39,749 --> 01:18:41,617 and I could hear the conversation, 1727 01:18:41,717 --> 01:18:43,219 Michael talking to 'em, 1728 01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:49,358 Something inside me just knew something was wrong. 1729 01:18:49,458 --> 01:18:54,563 - They tapped every phone in the town of Long Pine. 1730 01:18:54,663 --> 01:18:56,232 Me and a guy named Bill 1731 01:18:56,332 --> 01:18:58,968 were taking a Cayman Airways flight over the Grand Canyon. 1732 01:18:59,068 --> 01:19:02,505 We got on the plane, and the door closes. 1733 01:19:02,605 --> 01:19:04,140 The plane pulls away from the gate. 1734 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,374 It was about three feet. 1735 01:19:05,474 --> 01:19:07,343 It pulls back up. 1736 01:19:07,443 --> 01:19:09,678 The door opens, these guys come on board, 1737 01:19:09,779 --> 01:19:11,347 two or three of 'em, memory ... 1738 01:19:11,447 --> 01:19:13,482 They come up, stop right at my row, 1739 01:19:13,582 --> 01:19:15,651 look at me and go, "Mr. Ashbrook?" 1740 01:19:15,751 --> 01:19:18,154 I hadn't used the name in years, 1741 01:19:18,254 --> 01:19:19,522 years, and years. 1742 01:19:19,622 --> 01:19:20,890 I just didn't even look up. 1743 01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:23,426 "Mr. Ashbrook? 1744 01:19:23,526 --> 01:19:24,994 "Come with us, please." 1745 01:19:31,034 --> 01:19:33,436 - [Voiceover] I had met this guy through Chuck Scott, 1746 01:19:33,536 --> 01:19:35,038 from the east coast 1747 01:19:35,138 --> 01:19:38,541 who had been bringing in Pakistani hash on airplanes. 1748 01:19:38,641 --> 01:19:41,444 And he had somebody at the airport in New York 1749 01:19:41,544 --> 01:19:43,346 that would clear it. 1750 01:19:43,446 --> 01:19:44,580 I met Kitting, 1751 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,249 he seemed like a straight shooter, good guy. 1752 01:19:46,349 --> 01:19:49,085 So I fly to Afghanistan, and I land I Kabul. 1753 01:19:49,185 --> 01:19:51,554 And when I'm walking up to immigration, 1754 01:19:51,654 --> 01:19:53,289 they see my name on my passport, 1755 01:19:53,389 --> 01:19:54,891 and I'm red-listed. 1756 01:19:54,991 --> 01:19:57,093 So, all of a sudden, everything's different 1757 01:19:57,193 --> 01:20:00,063 than anything I'd experienced flying in there before. 1758 01:20:00,163 --> 01:20:06,335 A guy says, "I need you to come with me." 1759 01:20:06,435 --> 01:20:09,973 - I was on the run for about 10 years. 1760 01:20:10,073 --> 01:20:11,574 After I got back to America, 1761 01:20:11,674 --> 01:20:13,709 when I was back in California permanently, 1762 01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:17,446 I didn't have any ID for about eight years. 1763 01:20:17,546 --> 01:20:19,782 One day I'm moving Wendy up to northern California, 1764 01:20:19,883 --> 01:20:21,617 and I've got big pickup truck, 1765 01:20:21,717 --> 01:20:23,419 and it's filled with her stuff, 1766 01:20:23,519 --> 01:20:25,889 where I can't see behind me. 1767 01:20:25,989 --> 01:20:28,157 And I pull into this liquor store, 1768 01:20:28,257 --> 01:20:29,993 but I kinda miss the entrance to it, 1769 01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:31,260 and I had to back up, 1770 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,495 but I couldn't tell if anyone was behind me, 1771 01:20:32,595 --> 01:20:33,429 and I couldn't see him. 1772 01:20:33,529 --> 01:20:34,497 So, I backed the truck up, 1773 01:20:34,597 --> 01:20:35,764 and I pulled around, 1774 01:20:35,865 --> 01:20:37,833 pulled into the little convenience store, 1775 01:20:37,934 --> 01:20:39,435 whatever market was there, 1776 01:20:39,535 --> 01:20:41,737 and I jumped out of my truck and I looked back, 1777 01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:43,139 and my car's like this, 1778 01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:45,641 and a cop car's parked right there, 1779 01:20:45,741 --> 01:20:46,943 and he's got his window down, 1780 01:20:47,043 --> 01:20:48,677 and he's goin' like this. 1781 01:20:48,777 --> 01:20:51,280 And he tells me, "Well, you almost hit me back there. 1782 01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:52,348 "You know that?" 1783 01:20:52,448 --> 01:20:53,516 I said, "I know, I couldn't see, 1784 01:20:53,616 --> 01:20:54,918 "but I didn't hit you, right?" 1785 01:20:55,018 --> 01:20:58,087 He said, "No, but you really came close though. 1786 01:20:58,187 --> 01:21:01,590 He says, "Well, let me see your license." 1787 01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:02,791 And I told him ... 1788 01:21:02,892 --> 01:21:04,360 I kind of hemmed and hawed, 1789 01:21:04,460 --> 01:21:06,462 and he said, "You don't have a license, do you?" 1790 01:21:06,562 --> 01:21:10,866 I told him, "No." 1791 01:21:10,967 --> 01:21:12,135 - [Michael R.] Chuck Scott was killed 1792 01:21:12,235 --> 01:21:16,405 by US Marshals in Mill Valley. 1793 01:21:16,505 --> 01:21:19,475 - Shot him in the head as he was running, 1794 01:21:19,575 --> 01:21:22,946 in front of his wife and his baby, 1795 01:21:23,046 --> 01:21:25,949 and she was pregnant. 1796 01:21:26,049 --> 01:21:27,984 Police were going to my parents' house, 1797 01:21:28,084 --> 01:21:32,888 telling 'em, "You know, we just shot Chuck in the back. 1798 01:21:32,989 --> 01:21:35,124 "You better tell us where your son and daughter are. 1799 01:21:35,224 --> 01:21:36,859 "You know, because when we find 'em, 1800 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,627 "we're not going to ask questions. 1801 01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:43,232 "We're going to be shooting." 1802 01:21:43,332 --> 01:21:46,135 - We were living outside of Boulder. 1803 01:21:46,235 --> 01:21:48,404 It was a little town called Lions, 1804 01:21:48,504 --> 01:21:52,308 out where it's really in the country. 1805 01:21:52,408 --> 01:21:53,742 It was a hot summer day, 1806 01:21:53,842 --> 01:21:56,512 and I had, I was studying for my 1807 01:21:56,612 --> 01:22:00,383 GIA Diamond Certificate class. 1808 01:22:00,483 --> 01:22:01,717 I'm studying for it, 1809 01:22:01,817 --> 01:22:04,020 and my son, Daniel, is takin' a nap. 1810 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,989 He's sleepin' in my lap, 1811 01:22:06,089 --> 01:22:08,257 and the front door was open. 1812 01:22:08,357 --> 01:22:10,559 I didn't even hear their cars come. 1813 01:22:10,659 --> 01:22:16,932 (ominous music) 1814 01:22:17,033 --> 01:22:19,668 - We were down in the lower part of our house. 1815 01:22:19,768 --> 01:22:22,171 It was like a sunken room. 1816 01:22:22,271 --> 01:22:26,442 I stood up, and I looked out, 1817 01:22:26,542 --> 01:22:29,945 and I could see all these men 1818 01:22:30,046 --> 01:22:35,151 surrounding our house with rifles. 1819 01:22:35,251 --> 01:22:36,919 And I went over, and I said, 1820 01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:39,222 "Honey, they're here." 1821 01:22:39,322 --> 01:22:40,723 And he said, "Who? 1822 01:22:40,823 --> 01:22:43,092 "The kids are back from the beach already?" 1823 01:22:43,192 --> 01:22:47,430 I said, "No, they're here." 1824 01:22:47,530 --> 01:22:49,532 I made Michael promise me 1825 01:22:49,632 --> 01:22:52,768 that he would not panic and run. 1826 01:22:56,805 --> 01:23:00,043 - [Michael R.] They came charging in pointing 45s at me, 1827 01:23:00,143 --> 01:23:00,976 and I'm trying to tell them, 1828 01:23:01,077 --> 01:23:03,712 "I have a child in my lap." 1829 01:23:03,812 --> 01:23:10,019 You know, be careful. 1830 01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:13,256 - They allowed us to hug and kiss. 1831 01:23:13,356 --> 01:23:15,658 They handcuffed him, 1832 01:23:15,758 --> 01:23:17,326 and that's when they drove away. 1833 01:23:28,371 --> 01:23:31,374 (somber music) 1834 01:23:52,561 --> 01:23:54,597 The 60s had its casualties. 1835 01:23:54,697 --> 01:23:57,466 It wasn't just a clean ride for everybody. 1836 01:23:57,566 --> 01:24:01,604 And I know that more than anybody. 1837 01:24:01,704 --> 01:24:05,941 But, through all trials, tribulation, and suffering, 1838 01:24:06,041 --> 01:24:08,811 we never ever lost faith. 1839 01:24:08,911 --> 01:24:11,614 There was so much at stake. 1840 01:24:11,714 --> 01:24:13,149 We were a unit, 1841 01:24:13,249 --> 01:24:14,783 and whatever we went through, 1842 01:24:14,883 --> 01:24:16,652 we went through together, 1843 01:24:16,752 --> 01:24:18,154 as a group, 1844 01:24:18,254 --> 01:24:20,623 as a couple, 1845 01:24:20,723 --> 01:24:22,425 as a family. 1846 01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:36,139 - Well, I made it. 1847 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:37,406 - [Carol] You must have been overhead. 1848 01:24:37,506 --> 01:24:38,674 - Good, good, good to see you again. 1849 01:24:38,774 --> 01:24:39,875 You good? 1850 01:24:39,975 --> 01:24:41,043 If you go like that, you got one missing lens. 1851 01:24:41,144 --> 01:24:43,379 We were very idealistic. 1852 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,848 We were young kids and 1853 01:24:45,948 --> 01:24:48,484 it seemed like a beautiful utopia dream. 1854 01:24:48,584 --> 01:24:50,052 We were trying to make it real. 1855 01:24:50,153 --> 01:24:52,255 - [Voiceover] One, two three. 1856 01:24:52,355 --> 01:24:53,856 And again. 1857 01:24:53,956 --> 01:24:55,224 - The Brotherhood will never end. 1858 01:24:55,324 --> 01:24:57,160 It's in the people that had that experience, 1859 01:24:57,260 --> 01:24:59,728 that were there, that experienced that special time. 1860 01:24:59,828 --> 01:25:01,597 It'll be with 'em forever. 1861 01:25:01,697 --> 01:25:03,632 They'll carry it past their graves. 1862 01:25:09,538 --> 01:25:10,773 - [Wendy] No, your favorite. 1863 01:25:10,873 --> 01:25:11,707 - Oh, okay. 1864 01:25:11,807 --> 01:25:13,842 We don't have Social Security. 1865 01:25:13,942 --> 01:25:15,578 We have nothing. 1866 01:25:15,678 --> 01:25:19,215 If I don't pay my rent next month, we're on the street. 1867 01:25:19,315 --> 01:25:20,549 There probably isn't one of us 1868 01:25:20,649 --> 01:25:21,950 that couldn't say that the other guy owes 'em 1869 01:25:22,050 --> 01:25:23,118 a half a million, 1870 01:25:23,219 --> 01:25:24,587 but I imagine if he paid a half million, 1871 01:25:24,687 --> 01:25:25,754 he'd pay the half million, that all, 1872 01:25:25,854 --> 01:25:28,391 that there would be even in the end, 1873 01:25:28,491 --> 01:25:29,725 'cause everybody's got a story, 1874 01:25:29,825 --> 01:25:31,394 but we don't care. 1875 01:25:31,494 --> 01:25:33,296 It isn't like somebody else burned us, or took anything. 1876 01:25:33,396 --> 01:25:34,730 Loaded balls, we don't care. 1877 01:25:34,830 --> 01:25:36,432 It all's a wash. 1878 01:25:36,532 --> 01:25:38,267 We're here, we love each other. 1879 01:25:38,367 --> 01:25:39,602 Awesome, dude. 1880 01:25:39,702 --> 01:25:41,136 I'm happy to spend the day with you. 1881 01:25:41,237 --> 01:25:43,739 Those things don't change, those things don't change. 1882 01:25:43,839 --> 01:25:46,442 Once you really are the same, and one, 1883 01:25:46,542 --> 01:25:48,811 and brothers, and real friends, it doesn't matter. 1884 01:25:48,911 --> 01:25:50,613 Time can't space friends. 1885 01:25:50,713 --> 01:25:52,147 You just are. 1886 01:26:05,661 --> 01:26:06,895 - [Voiceover] I often thought 1887 01:26:06,995 --> 01:26:09,432 that if I ever told a story about my life, 1888 01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:12,167 I would call it The American Story, 1889 01:26:12,268 --> 01:26:14,903 because I think all of it is very American, 1890 01:26:15,003 --> 01:26:17,273 even the drugs, the psychedelics. 1891 01:26:17,373 --> 01:26:20,075 We have a lot of freedoms here in this country, 1892 01:26:20,175 --> 01:26:23,612 and we exercised those freedoms to the utmost, 1893 01:26:23,712 --> 01:26:25,848 to experiment the way that we did, 1894 01:26:25,948 --> 01:26:29,252 and to travel worldwide and to take big risks. 1895 01:26:29,352 --> 01:26:32,488 I think that's an American story, I really do. 1896 01:26:40,529 --> 01:26:41,864 - It's hard for people to believe 1897 01:26:41,964 --> 01:26:43,766 that Eleonora and could have lived 1898 01:26:43,866 --> 01:26:45,668 through the times we lived, 1899 01:26:45,768 --> 01:26:47,703 and never been afraid. 1900 01:26:56,745 --> 01:26:58,213 Loved his work. 1901 01:26:58,314 --> 01:27:00,182 Crazy, yeah maybe. 1902 01:27:00,283 --> 01:27:02,818 No, it's because we believed. 1903 01:27:02,918 --> 01:27:04,052 We believed in what we were doing, 1904 01:27:04,152 --> 01:27:05,954 and if we took us out, 'cause we were doing it, 1905 01:27:06,054 --> 01:27:07,456 we'd have been taken out. 1906 01:27:07,556 --> 01:27:08,991 It just didn't happen to us. 1907 01:27:09,091 --> 01:27:11,026 It happened to a lot of other people. 1908 01:27:23,939 --> 01:27:25,808 - We were outlaws, yes. 1909 01:27:25,908 --> 01:27:28,010 We broke the law, you betcha. 1910 01:27:28,110 --> 01:27:29,177 Laws were wrong. 1911 01:27:29,278 --> 01:27:31,414 We have to break 'em if they're wrong, 1912 01:27:31,514 --> 01:27:34,950 because we had a goal of wanting to turn on the world. 1913 01:27:40,856 --> 01:27:42,325 Then in only 50 years, 1914 01:27:42,425 --> 01:27:45,027 we have organic foods in all kinds of places. 1915 01:27:45,127 --> 01:27:47,029 The changes that have bloomed 1916 01:27:47,129 --> 01:27:48,897 all around the world as a result 1917 01:27:48,997 --> 01:27:53,802 of taking people psychedelics. 1918 01:27:53,902 --> 01:27:57,440 I know for sure that Steve Jobs took Sunshine. 1919 01:27:57,540 --> 01:28:00,343 I know positively that the guy that discovered 1920 01:28:00,443 --> 01:28:03,278 the double helix DNA was high on acid, 1921 01:28:03,379 --> 01:28:07,983 and I'm pretty sure it was Sunshine. 1922 01:28:08,083 --> 01:28:12,688 What we were involved in is human enlightenment. 1923 01:28:12,788 --> 01:28:15,524 That's no small thing. 1924 01:28:15,624 --> 01:28:20,195 I mean, 120 million doses of acid. 1925 01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:23,231 That's called turning on the world, man. 1926 01:28:23,332 --> 01:28:26,268 (upbeat music) 1927 01:28:43,552 --> 01:28:46,321 * We are the nomadic kids 1928 01:28:46,422 --> 01:28:51,193 * And they can't take that away 1929 01:28:51,293 --> 01:28:54,597 * We come with a message now 1930 01:28:54,697 --> 01:28:59,234 * It's fighting down away 1931 01:28:59,334 --> 01:29:02,270 * Some day old Sister Jude 1932 01:29:02,371 --> 01:29:07,843 * Will be in a holy place 1933 01:29:07,943 --> 01:29:11,847 * Our brothers 1934 01:29:11,947 --> 01:29:14,182 * These kinda brothers 1935 01:29:14,282 --> 01:29:19,488 * Our brothers 1936 01:29:19,588 --> 01:29:22,525 (funky rock) 1937 01:30:38,133 --> 01:30:39,267 * What's your name 1938 01:30:39,367 --> 01:30:40,569 * Orange Sunshine 1939 01:30:40,669 --> 01:30:41,770 * Do you want more 1940 01:30:41,870 --> 01:30:43,739 * Yeah yeah 1941 01:30:43,839 --> 01:30:45,440 (scatting)