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John Derek Worboys,
I'm arresting you on suspicion

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of six counts of sexual assault
between 2005 and 2008.

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They won't be asking you...
to testify.

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I wanted to look the bastard
in the eye

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and tell everybody
what he did to me.

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I wanted to have my moment in court.

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Mr Worboys handed you a glass
of something bubbly.

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And you drank that, too.
Because he forced me to.

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He's like a professional conman.

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You continue to constitute
a significant risk of serious harm.

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I therefore pass down on you

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a minimum custodial term
of eight years.

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I-I was told
that the Crown Prosecution Service

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had looked at all the evidence.

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No, I can tell you that the CPS

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did not review the evidence
in your case.

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They lied to me.

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Why didn't she flag, Dave?

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Seems it wasn't ever recorded
as a crime.

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It was only logged
as a crime-related incident.

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You know, I've been looking into
bringing a complaint

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against the police
for the way they treated us.

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LAILA: So, you're asking,
do I wanna sue the police with you?

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My advice would be to pursue this
under the Human Rights Act.

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The only problem is that
it's never been done before.

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Eight years did spook me a bit.
Yeah, he's not getting out.

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After eight years,
he could apply for parole.

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In order to do that, he'd first
have to admit to what he's done.

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SUPERVISOR:
So, this is where you'll be working.

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Everybody,
this is Carrie Simonds,

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who's joining the Comms team today.

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Hey. Hi.
MAN: Hello.

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Oh, it's actually Symonds.
Oh, sorry.

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And this is Cherry,
your new neighbour.

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Hi.
Hi.

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I'll leave you to it.

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CARRIE CLEARS THROAT

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Carrie? Sorry.
Yeah.

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I hope you don't mind
me bringing this up,

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but... aren't you the girl who was
a victim of that black cab guy?

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The rapist.

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Ooh, er... not sure about "victim",

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but, erm, yes,
I did do some interviews about it.

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I understand a lot of women
came forward after that,

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but... you have sort of put yourself
out there now as, like, "that" girl.

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Er, well, I...

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I learnt a lot from that experience,

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about how, you know,
the media operates, so...

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...hopefully, I'm a bit savvier now.

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INTERCOM BUZZES

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So, I've printed you both a document

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of all the materials
we've received from the Met.

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And as predicted,
they were mightily pissed off

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at having to hand it over,

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and they even said
that they had no desire,

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in the current financial climate,
"to spend disproportionate sums

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"defending a claim
that was many years out of date

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"and, legally,
had no prospect of success".

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Well, they can fuck right off.
LAILA CHUCKLES

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Couldn't have said it
any better myself.

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OK, so, as predicted,
the IPCC investigations

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into both of your cases find the
complaints are not substantiated,

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and the most serious disciplinary
action that they recommended

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was a... a few written warnings.

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What about telling me that the CPS
had reviewed my case when it hadn't?

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A "genuine mistake".

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OK, and what about not telling me
that they found the drugs

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that he used to sedate me
in my bloodstream?

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They actually do find that
largely substantiated,

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but they... they do want to note
that the investigating officer

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at the time had, erm...
a "heavy workload".

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What?

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We now know that they didn't search

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Worboys' house
when he was first arrested.

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I was told that they did

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and that they didn't find
anything incriminating.

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But, actually,
the most incredible revelation

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is of the CCTV footage
of you leaving the club that night.

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LAILA EXHALES

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They said that there was no sign
of me on the footage.

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That's because they were looking
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the 27th, not the 26th.

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If they had the correct date,

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they would have seen
that you left the club at 2am,

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and they would have known
that Worboys was lying

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when he said
he picked you up at 3:50.

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The initial investigation
didn't even analyse

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your mobile phone data,
which would have confirmed

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when you got into his cab
and where he took you.

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It's like a joke.

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I'm guessing it doesn't get
any funnier for me?

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No. Almost all the allegations in
your case, they say, are not proven.

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You saying that you weren't
believed - not proven.

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Being told not to show emotion
in your interview...

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Well, DC Stephens even denies
ever saying that to you,

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so it's your word against his.

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The only concession is that
they agree that the guy living

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in your old flat, Billy Houghton,
should have been interviewed.

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And to cap it all off,
they've released a statement

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saying that they have improved
training and changed procedures

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so that none of this
will ever happen again.

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It's what they always do.

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So... what do we do?

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Because, to be honest, this is only
making me even more determined.

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Yeah, same.

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We need somebody who's going to
take this on for us in court.

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And I have somebody in mind.

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A really top barrister.

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I've met this... guy.

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Tell me more.

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It was an arranged thing.
Erm, my mum insisted on it.

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You know, I actually think she would
have kicked me out onto the street

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if I hadn't agreed to it.

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What's his name? What's he like?
He's...

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...quite nice, actually.

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Arham.

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You know, good Muslim boy.

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He wore cream chinos.

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Good-looking?

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Not bad.

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You gonna see him again?

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Don't know.

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I just keep thinking...

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...what's the point?

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I haven't even told my family
about what happened to me.

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I certainly...

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I couldn't tell him.

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It's like...

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I feel like...

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I feel like nobody would want me...

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...if they knew.

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You know, at some point, you're
gonna have to talk about it...

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...and not just with me.

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You know, I tried that with Gav
at first,

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keeping it all buried, worrying
about what he'd think of me.

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It's exhausting.

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You know, I couldn't do it any more.

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I realised I had to come to terms
with what happened to me,

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and so I thought,
"Fuck it, I'm gonna tell you,

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"whether you wanna hear it or not,
for my sake."

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Mm.
Gav's not perfect.

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Sure he'd say I'm not easy
to live with either, but...

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But, to be fair, since I told him,
he's been nothing but supportive.

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So... maybe give Cream Chinos
a chance.

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SOFTLY: Yeah.

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WORBOYS:
You see, the problem I've got

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with this programme
you're talking about

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is I would have to tell the truth.

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I can't just sit here
and tell you lies, sir.

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PSYCHOLOGIST: The last thing
we'd want in a treatment programme

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is for you to lie.

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No, it's... it's just not in me.

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So, why don't we begin
with you talking about the offences

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for which you've been convicted?

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Well, that's the problem,
because I didn't do anything.

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I'm an innocent man.

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And that's your position?

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As far as I'm concerned,
any encounters were consensual.

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It was all
just a bit of harmless fun.

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And as for drugging them?

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Well, I mean, it's...
that's complete nonsense.

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See, I shouldn't be in here,
and that's the truth.

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I note you no longer
call yourself John Worboys.

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You now call yourself John Radford.
Why is that?

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It's very simple.

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The name "Worboys" is dirt, innit?

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Because of what those women said
about me,

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because of their false accusations.

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I can't even call myself
by my own name any more.

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How is that fair?

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It's really late.

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Why not give it a rest
and pick it up again tomorrow, eh?

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That police officer
who first looked into my case,

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DC Stephens, I kept asking him

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to talk to Billy Houghton,
the guy that lived in my old flat,

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because he saw Worboys that night.

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Stephens says here that I was

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"reluctant" for him
to talk to Billy.

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What an arsehole!
That's such absolute bollocks!

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It says here he has never had
any specialist training

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for investigations into rape
or sexual assault

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and, in fact,
no training at all since 1989.

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Oh, God.

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I'll see you in the morning.

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Don't be too long.

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WOMAN: Come!

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Ladies, can I introduce you
to Phillippa Kaufmann?

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Phillippa, this is Sarah,
and this is Laila.

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Very pleased to meet you. Welcome.
LAILA: Hi.

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Now, we're about to go in
with the police's lawyers

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for what's called
a structured settlement discussion.

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Basically, can we resolve this
without going to court?

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Is there a non-financial remedy
we can explore,

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such as a public apology to you?

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Can I just ask,
is that a possibility,

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a public apology from them?

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Not a cat's chance in hell,
I'm afraid, but...

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it may help our case later on
if we can at least say we tried.

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Right, ladies, follow me.

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DOOR OPENS

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29 women were attacked by Worboys
after he attacked me,

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before he was finally arrested.

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29.

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Those are all individual lives
messed up that didn't need to be.

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And those are just...
erm, the women that we know about.

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I mean,
there are almost certainly more

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who never reported
what happened to them.

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I was disbelieved and humiliated,

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and I don't believe the police have
sufficiently been held to account.

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I think the impact
of what the police did to me

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was worse
than the actual rape itself.

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Like Laila, I continue to live
with a sense of guilt

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for all the women
that came after me.

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Even though I know
it's not my fault...

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...I ask myself,
could I have done more to stop him?

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I'm shocked
that you won't just admit liability.

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The fact that you are fighting this

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makes me feel like
you still don't believe me.

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The police's position is that,
whilst we are, of course,

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sympathetic to the undoubted trauma
you have both suffered...

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...we do not admit any liability on
the part of the Metropolitan Police.

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We believe the investigation
into the crimes of John Worboys

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was reasonable,
ultimately successful.

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S... Successful?

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It took you five years to work out
these attacks were linked.

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Year after year,
he was left to roam the streets

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and attack other women
when he should have been locked up!

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What we would like to do, however,
is to invite you both to attend

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a police training programme, present
your experiences to the attendees.

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The hope is
that this would be educational

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and beneficial to both sides.

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Right, I think we're done here,
ladies, Harriet.

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Thank you.

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Fucking training programme?!
Shh.

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DOOR CLOSES

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OK, now you can talk.
They've got two hopes of us talking

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to this load of trainee policemen
about what happened to us -

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Bob Hope and no fucking hope,
and you can tell them that from me.

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What a patronising load
of old bullshit.

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Ladies, I think
we're gonna get along just fine.

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SARAH: Where's DC Stephens?

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It appears the Met are not going to
call him to give evidence. What?

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I suspect that they think he'll be
so undermining to their case

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that they want to keep him away
at all costs.

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Now, the problem is, if we call him,

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we won't be able
to cross-examine him

247
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because, in cases like this,
that's the rule.

248
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So, he won't have to give an account
of himself in court?

249
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I'm sorry.

250
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NBV told us that even after
she'd been sick in the toilets,

251
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she still carried on drinking.

252
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DEFENCE: Did this have, er,
an impact on your assessment of NBV?

253
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The CCTV footage of her
falling over at the campus

254
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was entirely consistent
with the actions of someone

255
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who had had too much to drink
that night.

256
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I thought the whole thing was odd.

257
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I thought it was odd
that an educated girl

258
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would accept a drink from a stranger
in those circumstances.

259
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DSD told us she had taken
some cocaine with her friends,

260
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and this showed up subsequently
in her blood tests.

261
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Had she also drunk alcohol
that evening

262
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before getting into Worboys' cab?

263
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Well, her friends told us
they put her into the cab

264
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after their night out
because she was so out of it.

265
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My conclusion was
that DSD had not sustained

266
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any specific psychiatric injury
as a consequence of the rape.

267
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She had, however,
suffered a depressive episode

268
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as a consequence of how she had
been dealt with by the police.

269
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Well, following the assault,
NBV developed symptoms

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of post-traumatic stress disorder,
including nightmares,

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intrusive imagery, flashbacks,

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avoidance, anxiety and depression,

273
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poor concentration
and social withdrawal.

274
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She still suffers from moderate
to severe symptoms.

275
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She can be tearful
and experiences mood swings.

276
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And she suffers
from continuing sexual aversion

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and a lack of sexual enjoyment.

278
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Are you aware,
Inspector Underwood,

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of a guide which outlines the Met's
standard operating procedures

280
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for investigative techniques
in rape and sexual assault cases?

281
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I am aware of it, yes.

282
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It lays out detailed steps
and considerations to be followed,

283
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from a starting point of treating
the victim's account as truthful,

284
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does it not?

285
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I don't know.

286
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Why not, may I ask?

287
00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,319
I just can't recall it
in any detail.

288
00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,479
As a member of
one of the Met's Sapphire teams,

289
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which are specialist rape and
sexual assault investigation units,

290
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I find that quite an extraordinary
thing for you to say.

291
00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,959
Well, in my opinion, it's not
something I consider practical

292
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to apply to each and every case.

293
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To this case?

294
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,959
I think these policies are fine
in theory...

295
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but they're not always applicable
to day-to-day policing.

296
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960
Then why have they been set out
by the Met as their guidelines?

297
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I think
they have been created purely

298
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to protect the police
from legal challenges.

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If a case is not classified
as a serious sexual assault,

300
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then details of the investigation
are not entered

301
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into the Criminal Intelligence
Computer Database, are they?

302
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,959
No. Meaning no closing report
would need to be done, would it?

303
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,959
No.
Is that a good thing?

304
00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,959
Honestly?

305
00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,480
An opportunity to not have
to do one would be taken gladly.

306
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,959
Was there a drive from
your superiors at Borough Management

307
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to disprove allegations of rape
and sexual assault?

308
00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,959
Yes.
Why was that?

309
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Because if an allegation
can be legally disproved,

310
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then it would improve
detection rates.

311
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So junior officers
were effectively encouraged

312
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not to pursue allegations of rape
and sexual assault

313
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and instead to focus
on other crimes such as burglary,

314
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which were easier to clear up.
Is that right?

315
00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,960
Broadly speaking, yes.

316
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:04,959
Coming now, DC Coldham,
specifically to the case NBV.

317
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Even though her case bore
all the hallmarks

318
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of a drug-facilitated
sexual assault,

319
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she was not treated as such,
was she?

320
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Personally, I believed her account.

321
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,799
But I knew there was no prospect
of the case being reopened

322
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once the forensic
and toxicology results had come back

323
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as inconclusive.

324
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,959
Even though there were still
many important leads

325
00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,959
still to be followed up?

326
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,959
Yes.
So, under pressure from on high,

327
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,159
her case was not recorded
as a serious sexual assault,

328
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,959
supervision from more
senior officers did not occur,

329
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,479
and her case was not entered
into the data bases?

330
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,799
No.

331
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,959
And the case was cleared up
in three months.

332
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No case closure report,

333
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,959
no detailed report entered
into the system.

334
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,959
And the Borough's clear-up rate
was thereby improved

335
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,960
since the case was not left
as unsolved.

336
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,960
Like I say, that... that was
the situation at the time.

337
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,479
Thanks. I can't believe
you're still waiting on a judgment.

338
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,960
This one'll be born before we hear.

339
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,479
So, how's life, then?

340
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,319
I'll be honest,
things are not great with Gav.

341
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,959
Hm?
It's me. It's...

342
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,160
I push him away, I know I do.

343
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,959
I just find it so hard to really...

344
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,319
let go emotionally, you know.

345
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,959
He's always been
pretty understanding, hasn't he?

346
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,960
Yeah, and he still is.

347
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960
Sex is shit.

348
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,960
I hate being naked.

349
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,960
I actually hate opening my
fucking legs, to be honest with you.

350
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,959
Must be like going to bed
with a slab of marble.

351
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,959
At least he got you pregnant.

352
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,960
Yeah, I got a bit drunk that night,
which helped.

353
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,960
Let's just say
it wasn't entirely planned.

354
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,159
CONGREGATION:

355
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,959
♪ Stand up for Jesus

356
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,959
♪ The strife will not be long

357
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,959
♪ This day, the noise of battle

358
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,959
♪ The next, the victor's song

359
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,959
♪ To Him who over-cometh

360
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,959
♪ A crown of life shall be

361
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,959
♪ He with the King of glory

362
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,799
♪ Shall reign eternally. ♪

363
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,000
Let us pray.

364
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,159
Lord, comfort and heal all those
who suffer in body, mind or spirit.

365
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Give them courage
and hope in their troubles,

366
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,959
and bring them joy and salvation.

367
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,959
In your mercy...
ALL: Lord, hear our prayer.

368
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,799
That those who face difficult times
will find the strength to prevail.

369
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,959
In your mercy...

370
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,959
CONGREGATION: Lord, hear our prayer.
Lord, hear our prayer.

371
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,639
For the grace this week,

372
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,959
to live by faith
in every circumstance of life.

373
00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,479
In your mercy...

374
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960
CONGREGATION: Lord, hear our prayer.
Lord, hear our prayer.

375
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,319
Hello? Hello, Sarah?

376
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,959
SARAH: 'Hi.'
Hey. What's happening?

377
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,959
I just got off the phone to Harriet.

378
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,959
The judge said
there was clear evidence

379
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,159
that I had suffered...
significant harm

380
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,479
over a long period,
and with you...

381
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,959
but for the failures of the police,
you wouldn't have been raped at all.

382
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,960
GASPS

383
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,479
'We won.'
No way.

384
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,960
We won!

385
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,960
They've awarded me 22 grand,
and you 19.

386
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,959
Fuck!

387
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,959
'I'm, like, I'm...'

388
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,959
I can't... I'm...

389
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,479
Harriet said she's sure
they'll appeal, but, erm...

390
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,960
we should enjoy today.

391
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,479
I'm glad you picked up.

392
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,639
So, tell me,
did he ask the question?

393
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,959
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I said yeah!

394
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,959
Laila, I'm so happy for you.

395
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,959
Yeah, Mum and Dad
are throwing us a party, it's...

396
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,959
Right, well, go and enjoy it, lovely.

397
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,639
'We'll go for a coffee soon.'
Yeah.

398
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,999
Yeah, and I can meet your new baby.
'Yeah.'

399
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,959
All right, I'll...
I'll see you soon, yeah?

400
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,160
'OK. See you soon.'

401
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,959
There you are.

402
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,959
You OK?

403
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,959
Yeah.

404
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,320
They're happy tears.
THEY LAUGH

405
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,960
They're all waiting in the garden.

406
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,320
OK.

407
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960
Just one sec.
Mm-hm.

408
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,959
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

409
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960
Welcome, son.
Thank you so much.

410
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,959
SALMA SPEAKS IN URDU
Thank you. Thank you.

411
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,959
You!
Oh!

412
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,959
Stop.
I love you.

413
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,959
Love you too.

414
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,959
CHATTER DROWNED
BY MUSIC

415
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,959
This is crazy!
Gonna make me cry now.

416
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,999
Stop! You're so silly!

417
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,959
I'm so happy for you!

418
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,960
CHATTER DROWNED OUT
BY MUSIC

419
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,959
I am Dr Craissati,

420
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,959
a consultant clinical
and forensic psychologist,

421
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,960
and I'm here, Mr Radford,
to review your progress.

422
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,960
OK.

423
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960
Well, I told the other psychologist
that I met recently that...

424
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,160
...the time had come
for me to change my stance.

425
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,959
I've withdrawn my application

426
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,959
with the Criminal Cases
Review Commission

427
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,959
to overturn my convictions,

428
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,960
and I've decided to accept full
responsibility for all my offences.

429
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960
Can I ask what has brought about
this change of heart?

430
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,960
Him.

431
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,959
Up there.

432
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,320
The Lord Jesus Christ.
He has shown me the way.

433
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960
I felt so guilty,
I didn't know who to speak to.

434
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,319
And then... then I found religion,

435
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,959
and I decided that, you know,
if I'm gonna follow the Lord,

436
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,800
I've got to be honest
and admit to what I've done.

437
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,960
Let's talk about what happened.

438
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960
I always felt guilty
about my offences.

439
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,959
Yeah, but to begin with,
I maintained some hope

440
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,959
that my convictions
would be overturned,

441
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,960
and I might be released.

442
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,959
But I can see now
that this is unrealistic, and so...

443
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,159
I've decided to use this
as a motivation for me

444
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,960
to take responsibility
for what I've done.

445
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,160
To let these women know
how sorry I am.

446
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960
And to be honest, you know...

447
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,800
...and talk about everything.

448
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,959
I hope that they will be OK

449
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960
and get on with their lives,
I really do.

450
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
I'm sorry, can I get a tissue?

451
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:00,960
Sorry.

452
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,959
Do you think you're ready to start

453
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960
the Sexual Offenders
Treatment Programme?

454
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,960
That's what He's telling me.

455
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,960
I'm sorry.

456
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,959
DOOR CLOSES
ARHAM: Here they are.

457
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,159
As-salamu alaikum, beta.

458
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,000
Wa-alaikumu as-salam.

459
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,959
How are you both?

460
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,959
Not getting much sleep,
but, yeah, we're good.

461
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,960
I'll go and make some tea.

462
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,960
BABY GURGLES
Ssh, ssh.

463
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,960
House is looking smart.

464
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Would you like to hold her?
Oh, can I?

465
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,640
SALMA SPEAKS IN URDU

466
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960
SPEAKS IN URDU

467
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,799
Shh, tch-tch-tch-tch.

468
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960
She's so beautiful.

469
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,959
You know, I only ever wanted
the best for you.

470
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960
Hm? You know that?

471
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Yeah. I know.

472
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Arham is a good man.

473
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Yeah.

474
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,960
He is.

475
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,000
You got knocked back, then,
on your parole?

476
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
I've told them about finding God.

477
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,959
No, I've put my hands up
to it all,

478
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,960
told 'em how remorseful I am.

479
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,959
That'll only get you so far, mate.

480
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960
In my experience, you...
you need to give them a reason.

481
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,959
What do you mean?

482
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,959
A reason why you started doing what
you were doing in the first place.

483
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,159
If you can't do that,

484
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,960
they're never gonna believe
that you know how to stop.

485
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960
She was an old girlfriend, you know.
I don't really wanna talk about her.

486
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,959
I mean, can I?

487
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,959
You know, talk about someone
completely innocent?

488
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,959
Whoever this person is,

489
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960
they can be anonymised
in any reports.

490
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Well, she left me.

491
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,959
When was this?

492
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Well, it's about, er,
summer time, 2005.

493
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,959
And I was really cut up about it.

494
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960
You know, and then we were
sort of on-off, and...

495
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,959
And then I remember,
about a year later,

496
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,959
she phoned me and asked me
to come pick her up

497
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,959
and take her back to mine,
and I-I was excited about this.

498
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,959
But when I got to this bar,
she was absolutely hammered.

499
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,960
Totally drunk.

500
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,959
All I could do was take her home
to her mum's,

501
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,959
and I was on my own again.

502
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Absolutely furious.

503
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,960
That night,
I went looking for someone.

504
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,960
That would have been the first one.

505
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,959
That was around...

506
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
September-October, 2006.

507
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,959
And then it just grew from there.

508
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,959
The truth was,
I only gave them half a tablet

509
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800
because I didn't wanna do 'em
too much harm.

510
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,960
And then when they were out of it,
I'd just...

511
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,960
...touch their leg or
look up their skirt as I sort of...

512
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,999
...played with myself.

513
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,960
I only actually put my penis
inside one of 'em.

514
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960
That's all. For maybe...

515
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,959
...four seconds.

516
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,999
I mean, I don't blame her, my ex,

517
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,960
you know, I-I take
full responsibility for my actions.

518
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,960
But I can see now that
that was the trigger.

519
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,960
Do you want cereal or toast?
Er...

520
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,959
Toast, please.

521
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,959
There you go. You take that.

522
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,959
GIGGLES,
CHILDREN CHATTER

523
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
PHONE BUZZES

524
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,320
Jack, can you take over a sec?

525
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,959
LAILA: 'It can't be true.
It's the same as before.'

526
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,999
We just find out about it
from the telly.

527
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,959
They all said, they were confident
he wouldn't get out of prison.

528
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,959
It's bullshit!

529
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,999
It's just more fucking bullshit.

530
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,960
For God's sake, he's attacked
over a hundred women. I...

531
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,959
How can anyone think it's safe
to let him back out on the streets?

532
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,959
Because we are not allowed
to know the reasoning,

533
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,999
the biggest problem we have

534
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,959
is trying to understand
why they approved this.

535
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,959
Cos they live on Mars?

536
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,959
But why weren't we even consulted?

537
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,959
Because the system
doesn't take into account

538
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,959
the views of the victim.

539
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,959
When these things are decided,

540
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,959
the criminal gets a place
at the table,

541
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,959
the Parole Board,
the Ministry of Justice do too,

542
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,959
but the views of the victim
are not even considered.

543
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,799
So we just have to stand by
and watch whilst they let him out?

544
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,959
Well, no, we have to bring pressure
on David Gauke,

545
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,959
the Justice Secretary,

546
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,959
and get him to order
a judicial review of the decision

547
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,959
on the grounds
that it was legally irrational

548
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,959
to release Worboys.

549
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,959
And we have to move fast.

550
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,799
One thing we have been able
to find out is that...

551
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,799
as late as 2015,
he was denied transfer

552
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,959
from a high-security prison
to a lower-security open prison

553
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,959
on the grounds that he posed
an unacceptable risk.

554
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,959
Yet two years later, they're saying
he's suitable for parole?

555
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,960
That sounds pretty irrational to me.

556
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,960
The thought of him being released
in just a few weeks is...

557
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,639
It-It's terrifying.

558
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,959
Listen to me.

559
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,959
We are going to fight
to stop that from happening.

560
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,959
We are gonna scrap,
and we are gonna fight.

561
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,800
I've gotta go.

562
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,959
Laila... No, it...
They'll be wondering where I am.

563
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,960
I'll go after her,
make sure she's all right.

564
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960
But this is a fucking disgrace.

565
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,959
You know, I've heard there's a lot
of people who are very unhappy

566
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,959
with today's decision.

567
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,959
Whispers that Labour
and the Lib Dems might even call

568
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,959
for an inquiry.

569
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,959
Well, that will certainly shove it
under David Gauke's hooter.

570
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,959
We need to keep it there.

571
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,959
We need to make a lot of noise,
and quickly.

572
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,959
Well, I had
a very interesting phone call

573
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,319
from Carrie Symonds this afternoon.

574
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,959
She gave evidence
at the original trial?

575
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,639
Yes, I remember her.

576
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Well, now she works for
the Conservative Party press office.

577
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,999
And she phoned
to say how angry she was and to...

578
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,959
offer her services.
Oh, yeah?

579
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,960
Yeah, so I think she'd be
very useful in lobbying David Gauke.

580
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,959
CARRIE: Worboys never once
showed remorse.

581
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,959
He described his behaviour
as banter,

582
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,959
and insisted
that the women accusing him of rape,

583
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,959
who took to the stand in tears,
shattered by the experience,

584
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,319
had in fact wanted
to have sex with him.

585
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,959
The decision to free him
was made a few months ago

586
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,959
by a Parole Board panel.

587
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,799
'We don't know
who made up this panel,

588
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,959
'and we don't know how and why
they came to this decision.'

589
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,479
PHONES RING

590
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,959
Hi, David! Er, just two minutes
once you're done. Please.

591
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,959
I'll catch you up.
Right.

592
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,959
I just wondered if you might want

593
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,799
to read this op-ed piece
that I've written.

594
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,959
What's it about?
The Worboys Parole Board decision.

595
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,999
You know that decision
was based on the reports

596
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,959
from several psychologists?

597
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,960
I think he's pulled the wool
over their eyes.

598
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,959
You might not know this,
but as a young woman,

599
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,479
I was drugged by him
in the back of his taxi.

600
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,999
And I just thought, full disclosure,

601
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,319
as Justice Secretary,
you should know what I've said here.

602
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960
OK, I'll have a read.
Thank you.

603
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,960
EXHALES SHAKILY

604
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960
PRISON OFFICER:
Moving down to Belmarsh, then, John?

605
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,959
Not long to go now, is it?

606
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,960
And from there...

607
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,960
...by the grace of God...

608
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,159
...I'll be released.

609
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,960
A free man.

610
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,959
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

611
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,999
ALL: Speech, Carrie!

612
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,959
I would just like to say
that I was just as surprised

613
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,799
as you all probably were when
I was asked to take this job on,

614
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,959
but I was pleasantly surprised.

615
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,319
I promise to give it my all.
Thank you.

616
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

617
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Congratulations.
Youngest-ever Head of Comms.

618
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,960
You've done so well.
Thank you.

619
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,999
I do have just a... a small fly
I must put in the ointment, though.

620
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,959
David Gauke told me
that the MoJ will not be pursuing

621
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,639
a judicial review

622
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,959
of that Parole Board decision
on John Worboys. What?!

623
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,959
Why not? He said something
about "legal advice".

624
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
But then he's gonna get out!
Fuck! Shit! Carrie.

625
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,319
I'm telling you this as a friend,
OK?

626
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,959
But people have been saying you've
been a bit distracted lately.

627
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,959
Well, then, they can mind
their own business. Come on.

628
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,959
I'm just saying,

629
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,959
don't let this stuff get in the way
of what's really important, OK?

630
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
And why you're actually here.

631
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Your career is taking off, Carrie.

632
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Don't blow it now.

633
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,959
I really thought David fucking Gauke
would get behind us.

634
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,959
This is so disappointing.

635
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,959
My guess is he's looked at
all of this, and he's thinking

636
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,959
his department doesn't come out
of it smelling of roses.

637
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,959
So, what can we do now?

638
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,959
We can push for a review
of the decision

639
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,959
on behalf of Sarah and Laila.

640
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,959
Can we do that?

641
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,959
I'm not sure private individuals
will have the legal standing,

642
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,959
but we can certainly give it a try.

643
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,959
Money is going to be a problem, though.

644
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,959
The rules have changed
since the human rights case.

645
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,959
It's now no longer possible to
take out insurance against losing.

646
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,959
Meaning that Sarah and Laila
would be personally responsible

647
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,959
for the Parole Board's legal costs
if we lost?

648
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,959
Precisely.
We need to raise money fast.

649
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
But by going against the government,
you could be risking your career.

650
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,959
I'm on it!

651
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,639
Yes, it is a letter that
I've been asking London MPs to sign,

652
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,959
a lot of them already have,

653
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,959
protesting against
the Parole Board's decision.

654
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,959
The women he attacked are fighting
to have his parole overturned,

655
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,959
and maybe this is something

656
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,959
that your paper could take
a more detailed look at.

657
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,959
And, hey, if you do decide to print,

658
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,959
don't forget to include the details
of the CrowdJustice link

659
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,639
at the bottom of your story.

660
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,959
'OK, well, I'll talk to my editor,
and we'll keep in touch. All right?'

661
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,959
We're still being contacted by women

662
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,959
who say that they are victims
of Worboys.

663
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,959
In the last few days,
I spoke to a woman in Bournemouth,

664
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,959
who's convinced that eventually
more victims will come forward

665
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,959
from that area because
he also drove his cab down there.

666
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,959
How about the appeal for donations
to help with the legal support?

667
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,959
Well, we've been completely
overwhelmed by the level of support

668
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,959
that we've received since opening
our CrowdJustice page.

669
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,959
The donations have been pouring in,

670
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960
for which we are
incredibly grateful.

671
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,959
Rehabilitated?

672
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,959
He denied everything
until nine months before

673
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,959
the first time he could apply
for parole.

674
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,159
Hm, and then he found God.

675
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,959
Right. Conveniently.

676
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,960
Just in time for parole,
he saw the light.

677
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,959
Only gave half a Temazepam.

678
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,959
Says he only raped one woman!

679
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,959
Penis inside vagina
for four seconds!

680
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,959
Wait a minute. Yes, here.

681
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,319
Says, "He only started offending
in 2006

682
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,960
"after the break-up
with his girlfriend."

683
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,960
Yes I've just seen that.
Oh, thank you, Lord.

684
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960
Come on, you two.
Mummy's running late.

685
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,479
I want you to be really good
for Connor, OK?

686
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,999
Right, ring the bell.
Wait there. OK.

687
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,959
INTERCOM CHIMES

688
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,959
OK.

689
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Oh, there he is. It's exciting.

690
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,999
Right, be good.
CONNOR: All right, guys.

691
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,960
Go on, run up,
there's cakes up there. Bye!

692
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,959
Thanks so much for doing this.
It's all right.

693
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,959
I knew it would happen on half-term.
Jack's with his mates, so...

694
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,959
It's, not a problem.
You know I'm happy to help.

695
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,959
How's things at home?
Erm... not great.

696
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,959
Er, Gav's actually moved out now,
so...

697
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960
OK. I'm sorry to hear.

698
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,639
Anyway, I'd better get going,
otherwise I'll be late,

699
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,959
but thanks again.
OK.

700
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,959
I'll see you later.

701
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,320
PHONE RINGS
All right, good luck!

702
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,959
LAILA: 'Hi.'
Hi. I'm running late.

703
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,320
Are you nearly there yet?

704
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960
I'm sorry, I...
I didn't get on the train.

705
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,959
I'm not coming down. I just...

706
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,960
'I suddenly thought...
the idea of seeing him again...

707
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,959
'I just can't do it.'
Yeah.

708
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,999
'I don't know how you can face going
back to that horrible time, Sarah.'

709
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,959
Because I wanna have my moment
in court with him today.

710
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,959
'Sorry. I know
I'm letting you down.'

711
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,799
No, you're not.

712
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,959
'Listen, if that's what
you wanna do,

713
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,999
'what you need to do, fuck it.

714
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,959
'Fuck them. Whatever works.'

715
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,959
I am sorry.
Stop apologising, OK?

716
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,959
'Listen, I'm gonna have to go,
otherwise I'll be late.

717
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,799
But, erm, I'll let you know
how it goes, OK?

718
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,960
'OK. Thank you.'
OK. Bye. Bye-bye.

719
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,960
Shit.

720
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960
Erm, Royal Courts of Justice, please.

721
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,960
SHE SIGHS

722
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Thank you.

723
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,639
My Lords, this is a unique case,

724
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,959
in which someone
who has been granted his freedom

725
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,639
has then had it taken away from him.

726
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,959
If ever there was a case for the use
of the judicial review jurisdiction

727
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,959
to be exercised
with the greatest care

728
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,959
and anxious scrutiny...

729
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960
this is that case.

730
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,959
We see that Mr Worboys has been
seriously minimising the nature

731
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,959
and extent of his offending

732
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,959
and has been dishonestly
manufacturing his explanation.

733
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,959
Furthermore, we say
the Board has failed

734
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,479
to take into account
critical evidence,

735
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,959
evidence which it was not
in its discretion to ignore.

736
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,959
Evidence which, if it was going
to reach a lawful decision,

737
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,960
it HAD to take into account.

738
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,959
In the notes of the sessions,
attended with the psychologists,

739
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,959
Mr Worboys admits responsibility

740
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,320
only for those offences
for which he was convicted.

741
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,319
A total of 19 offences

742
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,959
carefully selected by
the Crown Prosecution Service,

743
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,959
as you can see from their statement,

744
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,960
so as to not overload
the indictment.

745
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,799
These offences were against
a total of 12 women,

746
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,959
and Worboys says

747
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:30,959
his offending began
in September-October 2006.

748
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,799
But let's look, then,
at what evidence is out there,

749
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,959
because that evidence paints
a very, very different picture

750
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,959
to the one presented by Mr Worboys
to the Parole Board.

751
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,639
The police's conclusion, having
investigated all of the offences

752
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,479
that resulted in the charges
brought against Mr Worboys,

753
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:57,320
is that he committed offences
against a total of 105 women.

754
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,959
We submit
this is very powerful evidence

755
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,959
that Mr Worboys' offending
was more extensive

756
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,959
than anything he has admitted.

757
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,959
And, crucially,

758
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,959
we can see from the evidence given
to the police by the witness DSD,

759
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,959
we can see
that his offending went back to,

760
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,959
at the very least...

761
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,160
May 2003.

762
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,959
That is more than three years
before the date

763
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,959
he says is when he began offending,

764
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,959
which blows out of the water
the Parole Board's assessment

765
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,959
that he has taken
full responsibility

766
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,959
for his offences,

767
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,960
or that he has been open and honest
in his account.

768
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,960
LAUGHTER

769
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,960
SARAH: Happy birthday!

770
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,639
CHILD SHRIEKS

771
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,960
Mama!

772
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,000
THEY GROWL

773
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,959
Look at that!

774
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,640
LAUGHTER

775
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,960
You OK?

776
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,800
There's something
I've gotta tell you.

777
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,800
INAUDIBLE

778
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,960
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