1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:02,520 - You look like Audrey Hepburn. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:03,880 - Who? 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,880 - Mum said in some ways she loves Kiri more than me. 4 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,800 - They're ready, right? 5 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Everything is ready for her? 6 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,920 - Oh, it's just a day Alice. 7 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,160 Barely that. 8 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,360 I'll be back at four to pick her up. 9 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Where's she gone? 10 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,280 - Tobi's the father of Nathaniel? 11 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,560 - Yes, that's Kiri's birth father. 12 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,200 He's an ex-offender, drug dealing and GBH. 13 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:23,440 Has he taken her and you've no idea where she is? 14 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,800 - We let him touch her. 15 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,800 I need to find him. 16 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,840 It's only me. 17 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,240 Can I come in? 18 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,920 - I'm all snotty. 19 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,920 - It's okay. 20 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,560 - Don't make me talk to him. 21 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,040 - No. 22 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,000 - And I don't want to talk about it either so. 23 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,400 - Then we'll just sit. 24 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,640 You can sit there on the toilet 25 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,880 and I'll sit here on the bath. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,840 For your face. 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 - Alice doesn't let me use toilet paper on my face. 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,080 - She doesn't? 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,080 - She says it's too rough. 30 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,720 - Well, this toilet paper is extra soft. 31 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,440 I have a very sensitive bottom. 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Much more sensitive than your face. 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,160 - That's silly. 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 - You know what else is sensitive on me? 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,440 My elbow. 36 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,040 You know what they say about elbows? 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,080 - Stop. 38 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,240 - An elbow is a key to a man's soul. 39 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,880 - I'm not a man. 40 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,080 - So the time has come for me to examine your elbow. 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,160 Oh, no. 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,160 No, no, no, no, no. 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,120 - What? 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,960 - Your humerus is all wrong. 45 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Your radius is curved in the wrong direction 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,840 and your ulna is considerably too large. 47 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,800 - You're talking rubbish. 48 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,600 - Well, maybe. 49 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Maybe not. 50 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,920 - How do you know all the bones in the elbow? 51 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,920 - Can I tell you a secret? 52 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,400 - Not if it's something stupid. 53 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,080 - When your grandmother died, I spent a lot of time 54 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,760 in the bathroom reading, anything. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,520 It was the only room in the house with a lock on the door. 56 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:27,960 Do you know what I found out? 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,800 Nothing good happens when you try and shut something out. 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,120 - You should listen to that. 59 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,160 He only says something sensible once every five to 10 years. 60 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,200 - Ah, I resent that. 61 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,920 It's three years. 62 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,880 I say something sensible once every three years. 63 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:45,080 I'd say that's my average. 64 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,000 - Is everyone coming up here? 65 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,160 - I've told your father to stay downstairs. 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,400 You don't want him here, he leaves. 67 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,000 - He's not that scary. 68 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,640 He just wants the chance to get to know you. 69 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,960 - But I don't know him. 70 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,880 - That's why I'm here to change that. 71 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,080 - Yeah cool. 72 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,360 Come then Kiri. 73 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,840 - You said he wasn't coming upstairs. 74 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,560 - I can't just wait anymore. 75 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,600 - Calm down. 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,440 - We're out. 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Try somewhere else. 78 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,160 - No, thank you. 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,200 - Fuck off. 80 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Nate's Dad, right? 81 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:20,600 He's not here. 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,480 Why would he be here? 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Oh come on. 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,480 He came here. 85 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,080 We wouldn't let him in. 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,600 We wouldn't do that. 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,920 I remember her actually. 88 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Kiri. 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,720 Used to call her Bunches. 90 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Great hair, right? 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,040 I don't know. 92 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,280 He's not here. 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,320 - 10 seconds. 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Five seconds. 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Four, three, two, one, zero. 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,200 - Go Myra, go five. 97 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,440 - Welcome back to Good Morning Britain. 98 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,680 - We're joined now by Jim and Alice Warner. 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,120 They're joining us this morning to talk 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,240 about the tragedy of losing their daughter, Kiri. 101 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:45,240 - Jim, Alice, thank you so much for joining us this morning. 102 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,040 It must be a very difficult time for you. 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Let's start at the beginning. 104 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,280 When did Kiri first come into your life? 105 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,080 - We fostered her at four years. 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,400 - Her biological mother had died, is that right? 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,200 - Yes, sadly. 108 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Drugs. 109 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,840 - And her father was in jail. 110 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,200 Drugs also? 111 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,280 - Yes. 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,960 The neglect she suffered as a baby, 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,400 without going into detail left in her cradle for days 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,720 while her mother was high on drugs. 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,240 - Amazingly resilient girl. 116 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,800 - And tell me what was it 117 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:15,760 that first drew you to foster care? 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,720 - Well, it started with quite selfish intentions. 119 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 We wanted a brother or sister for our son. 120 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,480 - Son? 121 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,360 - Si, and as hard as we tried, 122 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,200 it wasn't happening for us conventionally. 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,520 We tried IVF, but again no luck. 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,760 So we turned to adoption but that was gonna take too long, 125 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,160 and then the possibility of fostering was suggested to us. 126 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 - Because adoption takes years, doesn't it? 127 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,440 - Si was 10 by the time she turned up. 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,560 - He's a fantastic older brother. 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,840 - Brilliant. 130 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,480 Yeah, the two of them as thick as thieves. 131 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,800 - It just seems so, it all seems so unreal. 132 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,520 - I'm so sorry. 133 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Of course it does. 134 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,400 - Thank you, thank you. 135 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,960 - It's just that she was driven from our home 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,240 in the hands of someone we trusted. 137 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,640 And now she's no longer here. 138 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 - Yeah, let's talk about Miriam Grayson. 139 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,120 Do you think Kiri's race could've been a factor 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,400 in her decision making? 141 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,240 - Well, this, this isn't about her. 142 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,280 This is about finding Nathaniel Akindele. 143 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,280 - I brought you something. 144 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Think you might be a bit too old for it. 145 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,560 You're too old, right? 146 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,400 - No. 147 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,840 No. 148 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Thanks. 149 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,200 - The only black one the toy shop had 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,360 was the one with her serving spaghetti. 151 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,240 It's weird, right? 152 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Spaghetti. 153 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Maybe she's supposed to be Italian. 154 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,720 It was the darkest one they had. 155 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,120 I thought it would look like you but it doesn't really. 156 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,640 I can't do this. 157 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Not with you watching me. 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,160 - You're doing fine. 159 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,440 - She didn't like the doll. 160 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 - You did not like cars when you were a boy. 161 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,480 It did not stop people giving them to you. 162 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,080 - I feel you looking at me. 163 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,320 - Well, where am I supposed to look? 164 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,760 - You want to play Scrabble? 165 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,600 - No. 166 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,360 - You just need to give him time, that's all. 167 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,560 - This was a bad idea. 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,760 - Oluwatobi, he's never been a father before. 169 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,040 He's trying hard. 170 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:51,920 - No. 171 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:03,760 No. 172 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,600 No, no. 173 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:06,720 Rochelle! 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,440 He took her. 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,480 He took her. 176 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,680 - Thank you. 177 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,800 - She loved to hide. 178 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Kiri, you see. 179 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Surprise us. 180 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,080 Make us laugh. 181 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,600 So I keep thinking that I'll find her hidden in a wardrobe. 182 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,480 - Can we turn it off? 183 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,680 - Behind the sofa. 184 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,800 - Must be so hideously difficult for you both. 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,480 - Have the police come here? 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,360 - Yeah, they've come. 187 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,640 - What did you say? 188 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,640 - I haven't seen him since Gaia's funeral. 189 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,480 What could I say? 190 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,480 - Bimpe. 191 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,440 - Don't Bimpe me. 192 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,720 We're not friends. 193 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,080 - I made a mistake. 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:38,880 I trusted him. 195 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,920 - Again. 196 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,760 - Rochelle thought-- 197 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,840 - Rochelle? 198 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,920 She doesn't know. 199 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,560 She wasn't there. 200 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,520 That boy might be charming but-- 201 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,080 - He said he had changed. 202 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,080 I believed him. 203 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,040 - Why? 204 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,920 - Because I hoped he had. 205 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 - Your son has killed again. 206 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,880 This time he's done it properly. 207 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,280 I need to go to the funeral. 208 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,480 I need you to tell that woman that. 209 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,200 - We would not be welcome. 210 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,000 We're the family of-- 211 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,480 - We are not family now. 212 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,560 No, I won't take that. 213 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Kiri made us family. 214 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,720 - I lost my daughter. 215 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,440 - You stopped your access. 216 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,840 You stopped your visits. 217 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,840 So don't stand there and tell me. 218 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,000 - I watched Gaia fade away in front of me. 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Begging me for money, stealing from me, 220 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,440 smiling at me desperately with her teeth going grey. 221 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,600 And then she dies and they find this Kiri beside her. 222 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,640 A girl I'd never even heard about. 223 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,360 I tried. 224 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,080 I tried to love her but all I could see 225 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,400 was my daughter, not my granddaughter. 226 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,560 - I just want to find my son. 227 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,480 - Where'd he go last time he messed up? 228 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,800 - I've already been there. 229 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:21,760 - And if I know that boy, 230 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,800 he'll go where you least want him to be. 231 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,240 - I hear someone's been in the wars. 232 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,520 - He's stopped eating. 233 00:12:58,560 --> 00:12:59,840 - Has he now? 234 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Right, let's have a look at you shall we? 235 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Okay. 236 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:07,480 Good boy. 237 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,320 I think we're gonna have to take some x-rays 238 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,680 of this poor old chap, okay? 239 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,680 - He's dying, isn't he? 240 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,520 - Let's not jump to conclusions. 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,200 - I just don't want him to be in pain. 242 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,520 - Let's not think the worst of everything, Miriam. 243 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Look, for what it's worth, if I had a kid who needed help, 244 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,240 I'd want him to be in your care. 245 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,600 - Everyone keeps looking at me. 246 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,560 I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do anymore. 247 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,760 - A little girl. 248 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,760 How could you? 249 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,400 - Another media appearance. 250 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,000 - Victoria Derbyshire. 251 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,040 They just take it off and put their own stuff on anyway, 252 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,360 but I like to look nice walking in. 253 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,520 - Is Dad doing it? 254 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,560 - Yeah. 255 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,880 - Can you put make-up on him please 256 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,720 to make him look less desperate? 257 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Was it one of those freezer things? 258 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:27,800 In the mortuary? 259 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,120 - No. 260 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,200 She was on a bed. 261 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,720 - Okay, that's good. 262 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,240 She never liked the cold. 263 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,360 I keep imagining how she cried. 264 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,760 - You shouldn't think about that. 265 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,280 - Don't you think that would've been a moment 266 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,000 she probably cried like she'd never cried before? 267 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,520 - Si, if you want to. 268 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,000 If you need to talk to someone. 269 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,040 - It's an eyelash. 270 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,800 - Ah, there you both are. 271 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,320 I got a pizza for lunch. 272 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Bit of a calorific treat. 273 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Then they're sending a car for us, so. 274 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,200 - Ooh, a car, posh. 275 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,360 - I was wondering if you might want to come too, Si. 276 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Maybe we could come back later, see a bit of London or-- 277 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,600 - Or what? 278 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,720 Take in a show? 279 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Go sight-seeing? 280 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,920 - No, I didn't mean it like that. 281 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,920 I just thought, getting out of the city, 282 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,680 seeing somewhere new. 283 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,880 - That's a nice idea. 284 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,160 It's just if we're seen, it might be misconstrued. 285 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,560 - Anyway, I'm gonna have some pizza. 286 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,040 You can join me if you want. 287 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,240 - Okay, so first, you okay? 288 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,520 - Fine. 289 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,960 - Okay, that's bullshit. 290 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,720 I'd say the main thing I want to do 291 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,000 is make sure you're okay. 292 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,880 - Yeah, I'm fine, honestly. 293 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,960 - The things they're saying about you, 294 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,440 about your decision making, they are disgusting. 295 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,680 I mean, these papers. 296 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,880 I'm surprised you've only been attacked once. 297 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,960 The resentment they're stirring up. 298 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,280 - Yeah, I don't need your outrage. 299 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,560 - Sorry? 300 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,720 - I'm sure it feels necessary for you. 301 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,840 It doesn't for me. 302 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,360 30 veteran in social services, remember? 303 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,320 They can punch me, spit at me all they want. 304 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:57,600 I've had worse. 305 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,880 And I probably read the same papers 306 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,000 as the woman that attacked me. 307 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Guardian never did much for me. 308 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,040 So, I don't need your sympathy or your outrage. 309 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,840 I want help. 310 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,120 I'm here for help. 311 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:09,760 - Great. 312 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,000 What are you after? 313 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Wrongful dismissal? 314 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,160 - I have been dismissed so I'm going to go now. 315 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,720 - What, why? 316 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,200 - What, you've read the fucking Daily Mail about me, 317 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,400 but you haven't read my file? 318 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,320 - I have read your file. 319 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,560 - Then don't ask me what I want. 320 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,960 I want my job back. 321 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,600 And don't ask me whether I've been dismissed or not 322 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,000 because it will piss me off. 323 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,440 - Shall we start again? 324 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,200 - And if you're chewing gum can you please spit it out? 325 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,720 I don't put up with that from my kids 326 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,080 and I won't put up with it from you either. 327 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:36,000 I don't want to listen to you chewing. 328 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,320 You have legal training I've been led to understand. 329 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,960 - I spent four years as a lawyer before joining the USC. 330 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,320 - Do I have any chance of preventing them dismissing me? 331 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,120 - You're asking the wrong question. 332 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,880 - Good, what's the right question? 333 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,800 - How do you prevent yourself 334 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,880 being struck off the register? 335 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,000 - Sorry? 336 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,560 - I have read your file and think that they, 337 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,640 the HCPC, have a position on negligence. 338 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,920 - I wasn't negligent. 339 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,080 - They'll say you let a nine-year-old girl 340 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:18,040 into the family home of a violent ex con. 341 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,600 - They were estranged. 342 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,840 - And the foster parents are claiming undue pressure 343 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,120 was being brought upon them to consent. 344 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,400 - They say now. 345 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,040 - Maybe they were too afraid to say then. 346 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,320 So, here's what I recommend. 347 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,680 You resign. 348 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,120 You issue a formal apology. 349 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,800 You take a share of the blame, but explain that you did so 350 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,000 in the interest of Kiri's cultural needs. 351 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,800 We have a contact at The Guardian 352 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,520 who will do an interview with you. 353 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000 You'd preserve your pension. 354 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,080 You'd prevent HCPC stopping your practise ever again. 355 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,920 - Leave my job? 356 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,360 - I'm sorry Miriam. 357 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,840 It's the only way as I see it. 358 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,280 - We don't have long. 359 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,000 We have a car coming in half an hour. 360 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,000 - Oh, yes, BBC News isn't it? 361 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,880 - It's a pre-record so we can get home at a decent time. 362 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,840 - Now I'm just here to keep you updated. 363 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,080 - You found him? 364 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:15,520 - No. 365 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,680 But it's probably worth making clear 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,600 that he's not our sole focus. 367 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,400 We're still looking into sexual predators 368 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,800 in the area for instance. 369 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,960 - Paedophiles? 370 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,640 She wasn't touched. 371 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,040 - No, that's something to be crossed off our list. 372 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,120 - Of course. 373 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,640 - Now, that day you were at work Jim. 374 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080 - That man took our daughter. 375 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:40,560 He had her. 376 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,160 You should be putting all efforts into finding him. 377 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,160 - We are. 378 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,240 - Then why are you here? 379 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,000 - DC Thompson gave me notes on the chats 380 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,560 he had with you both and I'm just verifying things. 381 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,640 Jim, your partner, Dave, has corroborated your account. 382 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,200 - Yes. 383 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,680 - And you were at home, Alice. 384 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,120 You were off sick? 385 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,920 - Did you come here to update us on the case 386 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,800 or to interview us? 387 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,120 - Why were you off sick? 388 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,640 - It's a stress condition. 389 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,240 - Can you be more specific than that? 390 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,800 - I can get you a Doctor's note if you like. 391 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,800 - Well, actually, that would be useful, 392 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,240 but more concerning to us is Simon. 393 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,040 He initially said he was at school, 394 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,280 and subsequently we've discovered that he wasn't. 395 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Do you have any idea where he might have been? 396 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,200 - I don't understand this. 397 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,800 - Just a sense is fine. 398 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,240 - You are fucking kidding me. 399 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,200 - Allie. 400 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,280 - Paedophiles? 401 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,920 She's looking into paedophiles? 402 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,000 She should be looking for him. 403 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,480 How hard is it to find one man? 404 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,520 His face is on the front of every newspaper. 405 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,160 - Which is why he will turn up. 406 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,200 - Not if you're not looking properly. 407 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,600 He murdered my daughter, our daughter. 408 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Can't even call her our daughter. 409 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,800 - Hello? 410 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,880 - Is Greg there? 411 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,000 - Greg isn't here. 412 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,280 - Can I come in anyway, to wait for him? 413 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,800 - Have you been here before? 414 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,760 - And maybe, if you wouldn't mind, 415 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,720 I could use your bathroom to wash my face. 416 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,240 - Hey! 417 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,040 - What? 418 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Hey! 419 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,680 - Get out of here! 420 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,520 - Oi! 421 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,400 - What the fuck are you doing? 422 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,960 - Hey, you can't open the doors. 423 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,360 - Close the fucking door. 424 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,120 - Hey, hold there! 425 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:16,960 Oi! 426 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,720 Hey! 427 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,360 - It's okay, Gloria. 428 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Hello Dad. 429 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,040 You can say something. 430 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:41,200 What are you gonna say? 431 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,200 - When did you last shower? 432 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,440 - I wasn't expecting that. 433 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,280 It's a good question. 434 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,200 I don't know. 435 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,280 - You look sick. 436 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,360 - Just tired. 437 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,480 Surprised and tired. 438 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,720 Everyone's looking for me and it's you that finds me. 439 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,000 - Who else would look here? 440 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,200 - There's no drugs, Dad. 441 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,240 You won't find no drugs here. 442 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,320 But it's okay for you to want to look. 443 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Feel good to be back? 444 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,920 - No. 445 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,720 - London Town. 446 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,920 London Town. 447 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,240 My Dad's back in London Town. 448 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,480 You like where you are now? 449 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,560 - Yes. 450 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,760 - Where no one knows what you were. 451 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,360 - And what was I? 452 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,240 - My Dad. 453 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,480 The man who keeps remaking himself. 454 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,240 The kid from the sticks who became a boxer. 455 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,880 The boxer who became a doctor. 456 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,000 The Nigerian who became an Englishman. 457 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,760 The doctor who became a Union Rep. 458 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,520 And the Union Rep who became a Dad. 459 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,440 The Dad who became disappointed. 460 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,760 The disappointed man who became scared. 461 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,360 The scared man who became fucked up 462 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600 and the fucked up man who ran away. 463 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,080 - My boy who speaks so beautifully 464 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,120 and this is what you become? 465 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,400 - I'm good with what I am. 466 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,520 How you doing? 467 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,040 - You are not good with what you are. 468 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,320 - Yeah, how the fuck would you know how I feel? 469 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,440 You won't visit a prison, but you will visit a brothel. 470 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,760 - Well, I did. 471 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Come on, let's go. 472 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,720 - Get the fuck off of me! 473 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,000 - I am taking you to the police. 474 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,840 - Question, why are you here and not them? 475 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,360 Why didn't you tell the police where they could find me? 476 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,400 - Because I wanted to find you. 477 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,320 - So you could look like a decent man. 478 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,440 - Do not disrespect me. 479 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Fuck. 480 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,960 I hate being back in this place. 481 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,680 When your mother died-- 482 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,640 - No, don't Dad. 483 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,720 - When your mother died, 484 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,720 I decided you were the only important thing. 485 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560 - I know, you kept telling me. 486 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600 - Every night we'd work together on your homework. 487 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800 I decided we'd spend every weekend together. 488 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,320 We went out on adventures to see the Thames Barrier, 489 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,240 to see the sea. 490 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,840 - The fucking Thames Barrier. 491 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,840 - And then you, this thing, you changed. 492 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,840 You became this mean, aggressive. 493 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560 - You make it sound like you it had nothing to do with you. 494 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,000 The fucking Thames Barrier. 495 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,880 - We were encouraged to apply to take her into our care. 496 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,640 Did you know that? 497 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Kiri. 498 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,720 Rochelle said yes, we must. 499 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,360 I said, no, we cannot. 500 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,240 I could not. 501 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,800 I did not trust myself to do it wrong, again. 502 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,200 - You should've took her. 503 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,640 - Yes, I know that now. 504 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,240 - I didn't kill her. 505 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,320 - She was alive when you stole her from my house. 506 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,400 - And when she left me she was alive too. 507 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,720 - When she left you? 508 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,560 - When I lost her. 509 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,600 - When you lost her. 510 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Just gone just like that. 511 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,600 - We were having an okay time. 512 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,920 I thought she wanted to go on the swings, 513 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,600 but she didn't so we just walked about talking. 514 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 She said she was worried about losing her name. 515 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Her name mattered, Dad. 516 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,560 - No. 517 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,080 - And I said we could put a stop to it, the adoption. 518 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,240 I was trying to get her back, Dad. 519 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000 I deserved another chance. 520 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,280 But then she got all upset, you see? 521 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,360 She said I was disappointed in her 522 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480 and she got upset and she ran off. 523 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,600 - This is lies. 524 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,520 - It's okay. 525 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,680 It's okay. 526 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,280 It's okay, I'll get you a water. 527 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,920 How did she? 528 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,080 The papers don't say. 529 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,400 How did she die? 530 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,320 - She was strangled. 531 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,920 - You think I could've done that? 532 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,200 Me? 533 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,200 With my hands? 534 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,480 To my own daughter. 535 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,920 - You think I want to believe that? 536 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,760 - I remember Mum's death too. 537 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920 And that trip you've built up to the Thames Barrier. 538 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,360 You had a girlfriend with you and you were pissed, 539 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,440 and then there were all the times I found you here, 540 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,680 so don't go getting all. 541 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Fucking hell. 542 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,040 You think I could have done that to her? 543 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,560 Come on, we're going. 544 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,680 - Where? 545 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,520 - To the police. 546 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,920 I'll tell them the truth. 547 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,840 Maybe that'll help them catch who did it. 548 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,040 I didn't know her too good, but I loved her. 549 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,400 - I think everyone's main concern 550 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,640 as a parent was to keep my child safe. 551 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,800 I hope people understand that. 552 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,640 - I'm sure they do. 553 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,720 But culturally it seems Kiri having access to her heritage. 554 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,200 - I took her cultural heritage very seriously. 555 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,640 - We both did. 556 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,720 - Could I ask about claims that the social workers 557 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,400 involved in this case may have been, 558 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,760 as some have said, anti white? 559 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320 - I don't want to use those terms. 560 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,040 All I want is my child's killer caught 561 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,680 and brought to justice. 562 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,560 - That's all we've got now. 563 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,760 - Ew. 564 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,640 - If you want me to go, I will. 565 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,280 You'll have no trouble. 566 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,120 - Get in. 567 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Should we ring Alan? 568 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,160 - Who is Alan? 569 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,680 - He's the police's PR guy. 570 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,760 He's advising us on how to deal with all this. 571 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,840 - Did you do this deliberately? 572 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,520 To get on the news? 573 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,040 Did you come here deliberately? 574 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,760 - I found my son. 575 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,400 He's volunteering himself to the police 576 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,800 to answer their questions. 577 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,960 - Well, thank you for letting us know. 578 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,880 - He says he did not do it. 579 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,800 We will see. 580 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,800 - Okay. 581 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Well, if that's all we can help you with. 582 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,880 - Alice. 583 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,920 - I know how complicated this all is. 584 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,680 I came to tell you what I know, 585 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,560 so we might work together as a team. 586 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,840 - I don't understand what he's saying. 587 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,880 - I've been told that when they release the body, 588 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,000 it will be to me. 589 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,200 Did you know that? 590 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,800 - What's that got to do with anything? 591 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,240 - I would like to suggest that we work together 592 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,840 on the funeral arrangements. 593 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,680 - No. 594 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:26,960 - I am a Christian. 595 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,960 I recognise that you might not share my faith. 596 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,920 - We're atheists. 597 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200 - So I think that you should have the service you need, 598 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:36,880 the service that celebrates her. 599 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,240 Have the wake you need, 600 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040 but when I bury her in the church grounds, 601 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,960 it will be my priest that does so. 602 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,760 - That won't work for us. 603 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,960 - I am next of kin. 604 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,960 - She wasn't even raised as a Christian. 605 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,120 - She was born a Christian so maybe I trust 606 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,600 that I know what I'm doing. 607 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,480 - Well, she was reborn here. 608 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,720 You people-- 609 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,960 - Alice. 610 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,480 - You Christians believe in rebirth. 611 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,640 Well, she was born here, not as a Christian. 612 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,400 - I understand your pain. 613 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,560 - Oh, do you? 614 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,600 Do you? 615 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,200 And did you love her? 616 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,080 You saw her once a month. 617 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,160 Do you think that was enough to love her? 618 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,720 I saw her every day. 619 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,600 I loved her every day. 620 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,640 You're Christian. 621 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,040 You call yourself a Christian. 622 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,640 If it wasn't for looking racist, 623 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,000 and I hate, by the way, that this has become about race. 624 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,960 - Alice, please. 625 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,280 - It was never about race. 626 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,600 It was just about a little girl that I loved. 627 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,400 And if wasn't for racism I'd tell people exactly 628 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,560 what I thought of you. 629 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Don't you dare say anything to the press as you leave. 630 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,480 - Mr. Akindele, what were you talking about? 631 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,920 Mr. Akindele, do you know where your son is? 632 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Mr. Akindele, do you? 633 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:51,400 - I found Nate. 634 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,200 - How? 635 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,480 Where? 636 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,200 - It is possible he did not do it. 637 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,520 - Mr. Akindele-- 638 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,080 - I'm not asking you to dismiss the possibility. 639 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,400 I have not. 640 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120 I'm asking you to consider other possibilities. 641 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,480 He's prepared to come in willingly. 642 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,120 - Will you tell me where he is? 643 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,120 - Where are you from? 644 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,360 - You've asked me this. 645 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000 Britain, England, Manchester. 646 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,640 - Where are your parents from? 647 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520 - I grew up in care. 648 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,840 - Do you think that makes you the most clear-minded person 649 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,280 to take on this case? 650 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,000 - Well, thankfully, that's not your decision to make. 651 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,920 Tell me where he is and we'll go and get him. 652 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,000 - I want to bring him to you, 653 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,320 but you are not understanding me. 654 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,640 - No, you're not understanding me. 655 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,240 You allowed illegal contact 656 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,120 between your son and his daughter. 657 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,520 That is a crime. 658 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,200 - Give me time to let him have a shower, some food, 659 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,880 and I will bring him here to you. 660 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,200 I trust you, Detective Inspector. 661 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,120 I hope you can trust me back. 662 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,520 - Warning, contaminated meat. 663 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,160 Please keep well back. 664 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:26,240 - Well, it's the designated smoking spot, 665 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,360 so I have no choice. 666 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,760 - Then I will keep schtum. 667 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,840 and we can enjoy our cigarettes in peace 668 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,320 and contemplation and joy. 669 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,320 - I didn't actually know you smoked. 670 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,360 - That's because I gave up 22 years ago. 671 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,680 Found a baby with cigarette burns all over his body. 672 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,360 Really put me off for a bit. 673 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,880 - Sure. 674 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,080 - But you know whilst occasionally when I draw in, 675 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,160 occasionally I taste cooking flesh. 676 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,040 Mostly I just get the pleasant sensation 677 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,120 of impending cancer. 678 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,400 - Where's Jessie? 679 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120 - I ate Jessie as a way of expressing my love. 680 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,800 Made me feel a whole tonne better. 681 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,160 Served him with potatoes and a crisp green salad. 682 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,200 He's at the vet. 683 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,280 Dying probably. 684 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,240 - I'm sorry. 685 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,680 - Think he's dying. 686 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,720 Yeah, timing could be better got to be said. 687 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,840 - I am on your side you know. 688 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,440 - I didn't know there were sides. 689 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,480 - I mean it. 690 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,240 - So do I. 691 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,000 If there are sides do you think I could swap sides 692 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,640 because I hate this fucking side. 693 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,040 Scares the shit out of me. 694 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,680 - There's two investigations now. 695 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,160 A serious case review and now they wanna call 696 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,680 a public inquiry about whether best practise was used. 697 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,160 - Three actually. 698 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,280 HCPC disciplinary about whether I'm fit 699 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,440 to be a social servant. 700 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,200 - Oh, fuck the HCPC. 701 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,160 - Oh, my thoughts exactly. 702 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,240 Fuck you all. 703 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,960 - You know, they're saying this, all this, 704 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,480 it might be used as a means to tighten the adoption rules. 705 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,200 - Tighten them how? 706 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,320 - Making it harder for birth families to have contact. 707 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,040 - Unless they're white. 708 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,400 - Fuck sake, Miriam. 709 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,520 Miriam? 710 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,320 Miriam, where are you going? 711 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,320 We were supposed to be doing the handover. 712 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,840 - Why has all this become my responsibility? 713 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,600 Why have you people all become my responsibility? 714 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,400 And why have the fucking adoption rules 715 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,720 become my responsibility? 716 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,760 I mean, is that fair? 717 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,200 Don't feel fair. 718 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,960 It's not fucking fair. 719 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,000 - Miriam. 720 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,320 - Miriam, are you going to resign? 721 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,360 - Can you move? 722 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,200 Please? 723 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,240 - Miriam, are you going to resign? 724 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,040 - Right, no one wants me to talk to you 725 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,280 because no one wants me to say it. 726 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,960 What I did was right. 727 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,880 Not by me or my bosses or Alice and Jim Warner but by Kiri. 728 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,320 I did the right thing by a little girl 729 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200 who deserved to know where she came from. 730 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,800 Who deserved access to a home where people look like her. 731 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,400 Where she could see a future. 732 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,840 Everything she could grow up to be 733 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,240 'cause do you think they were gonna show her that? 734 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,200 Do you think anyone would have offered her anything 735 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,920 other than the kindness packaged in pale skin 736 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320 and straight hair and Christmas in a church 737 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,640 with a blue-eyed Jesus and Christmas paper 738 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,040 wrapping up a blue-eyed doll. 739 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,000 I love my job and loving what you do 740 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,720 means doing it to the best of your ability always. 741 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,960 And that is what I was trying to do that Kiri, 742 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,160 a little girl being raised in a world 743 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,280 where she is already considered other. 744 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,480 And when you have a family who love a child 745 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,280 and want to see a child and pass all compliance 746 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,280 with our laws you let them fucking see the child. 747 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,640 'Cause why not? 748 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:40,600 Would you make 749 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,920 the same decision again, Miriam? 750 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,480 - Is it true that you were attacked? 751 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,160 Have you had anything to drink today? 752 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,280 - Miriam, come back and talk to us. 753 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,520 - Miriam. 754 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,480 - We need to say grace. 755 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,760 Hey, I said I'd bring him to you. 756 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,240 He was volunteering himself up. 757 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,000 - Mr. Akindele, this is safest for everyone concerned. 758 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,920 Now is Nathaniel here? 759 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,560 - You will not enter my house. 760 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,760 - I would rather do this with your consent, Tobi. 761 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,560 - Police. 762 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,200 Police, stay back. 763 00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:59,120 Stay there. 764 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,960 - Nathaniel! 765 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000 - Calm down. 766 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,040 - Nathaniel! 767 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,800 Nathaniel! 768 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,600 We were bringing him to you! 769 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,360 We were bringing him to you! 770 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,680 Nathaniel! 771 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:12,960 - Nathaniel Akindele, we're arresting you 772 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,160 for the murder of your daughter Kiri. 773 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,440 - No! 774 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,360 - You do not have to say anything, 775 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,600 but it may harm your defence 776 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,360 if you do not mention when questioned-- 777 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,560 - We were coming to you! 778 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,120 He was coming to answer your questions! 779 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,760 - Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 780 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,920 - This is not right! 781 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,280 It's not right! 782 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:27,720 Nathaniel! 783 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,000 Nathaniel! 784 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,840 Nathaniel! 785 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,880 Nathaniel! 786 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,840 We were bringing him to you! 787 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,560 We were coming to you. 788 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,840 - We're planning a re-enactment. 789 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,680 - The details of Kiri's day are becoming more complicated. 790 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:02,600 - But if he didn't do it, who did? 791 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,440 - I see your face nowhere, Tobi. 792 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,840 Let us help you. 793 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,320 - I do not need this help and I did not ask for it. 794 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,640 - Do you know how fucking stupid you are? 795 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,440 I followed you. 796 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,880 I could've been anyone. 797 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,120 - Hi. 798 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,600 - I'm sorry, Miriam. 799 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,120 - I was always very discreet. 800 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,240 I don't think it affected me, my judgement . 801 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,040 - It's okay to not be sure. 802 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,960 That's better than being sure I did it. 803 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,080 - I'll never forgive myself. 804 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680 And I'll never forgive you.