1 00:00:01,401 --> 00:00:04,938 This program is based on facts available in the public domain 2 00:00:05,004 --> 00:00:08,375 and official records. The broadcaster is not responsible 3 00:00:08,441 --> 00:00:10,677 for the opinions expressed in this program. 4 00:00:24,891 --> 00:00:27,193 Getting stuck in the idea 5 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:29,295 that your life 6 00:00:30,563 --> 00:00:32,031 is suffering 7 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:33,900 it's a mess. 8 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:39,873 I am a totality of unknown in your life. 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,510 I am the manifesto of the unmanifest to you. 10 00:00:45,478 --> 00:00:47,280 God is waiting to help you 11 00:00:48,181 --> 00:00:51,151 and to open up all possibilities. 12 00:00:56,322 --> 00:00:57,490 You will begin to see, 13 00:00:58,558 --> 00:01:01,561 the moment they sit in front of me, 14 00:01:01,928 --> 00:01:03,930 enlightenment begins. 15 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:06,332 It is a shame. 16 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:09,702 Not even the members from the ashram understood 17 00:01:12,205 --> 00:01:13,573 the meaning of paradise. 18 00:01:13,873 --> 00:01:16,309 The focus is on Swami Nithyananda. 19 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:20,213 He keeps trying to escape of all these cases. 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,450 Even at this moment, he is getting stronger and stronger. 21 00:01:23,516 --> 00:01:25,819 Throughout his empire, he had followers 22 00:01:25,885 --> 00:01:28,188 who are extremely influential people. 23 00:01:30,857 --> 00:01:32,625 He convinced everyone 24 00:01:33,092 --> 00:01:34,794 that he was an avatar of Shiva 25 00:01:35,261 --> 00:01:37,063 and that he is the one who will save everyone 26 00:01:37,130 --> 00:01:39,732 whatever that humanity is going through. 27 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:42,635 And will take them to a golden age of enlightenment. 28 00:01:43,303 --> 00:01:46,105 Every day at meetings That's what it said. 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,808 Why are you doing all this? 30 00:01:50,276 --> 00:01:52,846 This thing I believed in since age 11 31 00:01:53,513 --> 00:01:54,647 It's all a hoax. 32 00:01:56,783 --> 00:01:59,686 This is a cult and I was deceived. 33 00:02:08,194 --> 00:02:10,497 A SEARCH FOR DAUGHTERS 34 00:02:25,945 --> 00:02:30,083 I was totally enchanted, mesmerized. 35 00:02:30,583 --> 00:02:31,784 Call it whatever you want. 36 00:02:32,418 --> 00:02:36,189 I was convinced and believed 37 00:02:36,723 --> 00:02:39,259 on Swami Nithyananda. Fully. 38 00:02:39,792 --> 00:02:42,562 That he was the greatest guru of all. 39 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:45,798 And I made all my children 40 00:02:46,666 --> 00:02:48,368 enter his school. 41 00:02:54,474 --> 00:02:56,943 A man from Bengaluru filed a complaint 42 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,945 at Ahmedabad police station, Gujarat. 43 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:02,615 In the complaint, he declared that Nithyananda took his children 44 00:03:02,682 --> 00:03:05,218 from Bengaluru to Ahmedabad without their consent 45 00:03:05,285 --> 00:03:06,486 and kept them imprisoned. 46 00:03:06,553 --> 00:03:08,488 We are here with the girls' father 47 00:03:08,888 --> 00:03:10,657 trying to get more information. 48 00:03:10,723 --> 00:03:12,725 My daughter's name is Nanditha 49 00:03:13,126 --> 00:03:15,795 and I'm trying to find her more than a month ago. 50 00:03:16,296 --> 00:03:17,564 They won't let me in. 51 00:03:18,064 --> 00:03:20,199 They're kicking me out and threatening me 52 00:03:20,266 --> 00:03:21,734 unnecessarily. 53 00:03:22,001 --> 00:03:24,470 And this mother won't stop crying. 54 00:03:24,771 --> 00:03:27,173 {\an8}I would like to ask. Where is your daughter? 55 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,675 {\an8}Where is your daughter? 56 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:30,176 {\an8}We don't know! 57 00:03:30,243 --> 00:03:31,945 {\an8}That's what we're asking! 58 00:03:32,478 --> 00:03:34,347 {\an8}I want my daughter! 59 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:35,915 {\an8}Try to understand, please! 60 00:03:36,516 --> 00:03:37,917 {\an8}I want my daughter! 61 00:03:38,585 --> 00:03:41,187 {\an8}I want my daughter! 62 00:03:42,689 --> 00:03:44,290 {\an8}I lost my eldest daughter. 63 00:03:44,357 --> 00:03:47,460 {\an8}What do you think? Where is the girl now? 64 00:03:47,527 --> 00:03:49,629 {\an8}What did they do to her? Are they cooperating? 65 00:03:49,696 --> 00:03:50,696 {\an8}No. No no. 66 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:54,634 {\an8}They act in a very wrong way. 67 00:03:55,068 --> 00:03:56,703 {\an8}They created drama. 68 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,205 {\an8}And I worked in this organization. 69 00:03:59,539 --> 00:04:02,742 {\an8}Now I'm here, in this situation. 70 00:04:03,343 --> 00:04:04,844 {\an8}I can't see my daughters. 71 00:04:10,216 --> 00:04:11,851 Madam, please, we are here. 72 00:04:28,735 --> 00:04:30,837 THE GURU, THE SEXUAL VIDEO AND THE INTENSE FIGHT 73 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:35,341 UNKNOWN NUMBER 74 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:49,122 DANGEROUS SECT 75 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:52,392 {\an8}A SEARCH FOR DAUGHTERS 76 00:04:56,295 --> 00:04:59,666 {\an8}NOVEMBER 15, 2019 A PLOT GONE WRONG 77 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:07,240 Do you want me to speak Hindi? 78 00:05:07,306 --> 00:05:08,775 - For what? - To be clear. 79 00:05:09,242 --> 00:05:10,677 - It's the local media. - Gujarati? 80 00:05:10,743 --> 00:05:12,445 Yes, only Gujarati media. 81 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:22,088 In 2013, Janardhan Sharma He was a fervent practitioner of Hinduism. 82 00:05:22,755 --> 00:05:26,459 Today, if I'm alive, if I can speak, 83 00:05:27,694 --> 00:05:31,164 it is purely because of Swami's grace. 84 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:36,202 Suddenly, without any prior warning, 85 00:05:37,203 --> 00:05:40,139 his daughters were transferred from Bidadi to Ahmedabad. 86 00:05:40,206 --> 00:05:42,575 It was a sudden decision by the ashram. 87 00:05:42,642 --> 00:05:46,746 Janardhan tried to visit the ashram once or twice 88 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:51,451 but they told him that, without permission, 89 00:05:52,051 --> 00:05:54,654 parents cannot visit their children. 90 00:05:54,721 --> 00:05:56,589 VEHICLES AND CELL PHONE PROHIBITED 91 00:05:56,656 --> 00:05:58,291 When I met Janardhan Sharma, 92 00:05:58,958 --> 00:06:00,760 he and his wife were crying. 93 00:06:02,328 --> 00:06:06,766 They had sent their daughter to study there, but they couldn't see her. 94 00:06:08,367 --> 00:06:11,070 I was very surprised, very shocked, 95 00:06:11,137 --> 00:06:13,639 I felt like something was wrong with the ashram. 96 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:19,145 The girls are not in a safe place. They are in danger. 97 00:06:19,979 --> 00:06:22,448 The girl couldn't see her parents not once. 98 00:06:22,515 --> 00:06:24,250 They don't allow them to see each other. 99 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:26,285 This is absurd. 100 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:33,126 Nithyananda was not a well-known person 101 00:06:33,192 --> 00:06:35,661 in the state of Gujarat. 102 00:06:35,728 --> 00:06:39,899 When his ashram came into being, that's when we found out 103 00:06:40,299 --> 00:06:44,237 of his existence. It was new to us 104 00:06:44,303 --> 00:06:46,606 discover that his ashram was in Gujarat. 105 00:06:46,672 --> 00:06:50,243 It was November 15, 2019, a Friday night. 106 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:54,380 Our editor received a call at 6pm. 107 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:58,117 The connection was from Kashyap Jani. 108 00:06:58,417 --> 00:07:03,389 He told us about the ashram, within the premises of the DPS school. 109 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:06,926 And that there were two girls inside the ashram. 110 00:07:07,527 --> 00:07:11,864 So my cameraman and I decided go to the location. 111 00:07:15,034 --> 00:07:18,204 We saw police cars, her parents. 112 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:20,173 There were about 15 or 20 vehicles. 113 00:07:23,075 --> 00:07:25,745 It is more or less one hour from Gandhinagar. 114 00:07:26,312 --> 00:07:27,647 We got there in an hour 115 00:07:28,614 --> 00:07:31,184 and four of his lawyers they had already arrived before. 116 00:07:31,517 --> 00:07:35,588 If you observe their behavior, they are swearing at the police in English. 117 00:07:37,023 --> 00:07:38,457 You can't come in here. 118 00:07:38,524 --> 00:07:41,861 They know everything about the law, so they didn't allow us to enter. 119 00:07:45,464 --> 00:07:47,066 {\an8}The mother couldn't stop crying. 120 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:50,369 {\an8}She begged to come in, but the people at the ashram 121 00:07:50,436 --> 00:07:52,405 {\an8}they didn't let it go at all. 122 00:07:55,641 --> 00:07:57,577 {\an8}It was at that moment that my editor and I 123 00:07:57,643 --> 00:08:00,780 we decided it was time to start the live broadcast. 124 00:08:00,847 --> 00:08:03,082 This was around 11pm. 125 00:08:04,684 --> 00:08:06,786 {\an8}Good evening. After waiting a long time, 126 00:08:06,853 --> 00:08:08,654 the police were finally able to enter. 127 00:08:08,721 --> 00:08:11,257 After waiting for a long time, they entered. 128 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:13,159 One of the girls is still inside. 129 00:08:15,361 --> 00:08:17,964 We went in anyway and we interrogated the children. 130 00:08:18,030 --> 00:08:19,932 Some of them told things. 131 00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:22,368 They had to work even with a fever. 132 00:08:22,768 --> 00:08:26,105 They had to work, even with any health problem. 133 00:08:26,772 --> 00:08:29,775 Psychologically, children were trained like this. 134 00:08:30,576 --> 00:08:31,576 It's training. 135 00:08:31,878 --> 00:08:36,282 It was blind faith in a person 136 00:08:36,816 --> 00:08:39,051 who controlled their entire lives. 137 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:46,192 The people inside the ashram, the children and all the monks 138 00:08:46,659 --> 00:08:49,695 they kept filming us while our crew also filmed. 139 00:08:50,529 --> 00:08:55,468 The police searched the buses, all areas around campus 140 00:08:55,534 --> 00:09:00,673 {\an8}and the whole place, but they couldn't find the girls nowhere. 141 00:09:02,108 --> 00:09:06,078 {\an8}That's what we're seeing here, their mother doesn't stop crying. 142 00:09:07,747 --> 00:09:11,450 {\an8}I don't know. Only God knows where my daughter is. 143 00:09:15,454 --> 00:09:18,257 {\an8}- Talk to them. - Calm down, ma'am. 144 00:09:18,324 --> 00:09:21,460 {\an8}Don't cry. We are on your side, we want to help you. 145 00:09:21,527 --> 00:09:24,096 {\an8}Ask the ashram, for the members there, 146 00:09:24,163 --> 00:09:26,699 {\an8}- please. - We're here. 147 00:09:27,566 --> 00:09:31,637 {\an8}All volunteers who live in the ashram, 148 00:09:31,704 --> 00:09:35,241 all the people inside and the team gave testimony. 149 00:09:35,508 --> 00:09:37,843 The interrogations continue to happen. 150 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:42,048 A detailed criminal complaint was made against Swami Nithyananda, 151 00:09:42,114 --> 00:09:43,382 founder of the ashram. 152 00:09:43,983 --> 00:09:47,053 The complaint contained all the details. 153 00:09:49,121 --> 00:09:50,623 Our team is working. 154 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:53,893 We have passport details of the two girls, 155 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,696 we also inform the immigration department. 156 00:09:56,762 --> 00:09:58,798 Nithyananda's passport is expired. 157 00:09:59,165 --> 00:10:02,134 Two days passed and everyone wanted to know 158 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:04,370 where the girls were. 159 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:06,172 The police managed to talk to them 160 00:10:06,238 --> 00:10:08,107 via a video call. 161 00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:11,811 - Hello. - The media wants to talk to you. 162 00:10:11,877 --> 00:10:14,547 You can answer to their questions. 163 00:10:14,914 --> 00:10:16,916 Swami publicly announced 164 00:10:16,983 --> 00:10:20,486 for my sister and I to go resolve family issues. 165 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:23,289 I'm very, very happy here. 166 00:10:23,356 --> 00:10:27,159 I'm not being kidnapped, I'm traveling. 167 00:10:27,226 --> 00:10:30,162 And, because of Swami's initiation 168 00:10:30,229 --> 00:10:32,331 I have experienced various forms of power 169 00:10:32,398 --> 00:10:36,035 and we are all having the opportunity or space 170 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:40,773 to experience more power. I chose to live according to sanya. 171 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,310 Even after all this, Mr. Sharma has not seen his daughters. 172 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:46,145 And we did not find Nithyananda. 173 00:10:46,212 --> 00:10:48,848 Accused of rape and faking be a divine man, 174 00:10:48,914 --> 00:10:51,884 he fled India. Now, he has been accused of kidnapping. 175 00:10:52,351 --> 00:10:56,555 He is accused of kidnapping children and beat them. 176 00:10:56,622 --> 00:10:59,859 He is missing and the police is trying to find him. 177 00:10:59,925 --> 00:11:03,062 If you have nothing to hide, Why are you running away? 178 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:06,532 A police report was registered against Nithyananda 179 00:11:06,599 --> 00:11:09,068 and your passport has been suspended by the Indian government. 180 00:11:09,435 --> 00:11:10,870 There is no proof. 181 00:11:10,936 --> 00:11:12,972 How can he be guilty of kidnapping? 182 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,042 Your helpers are revealing the location of the hideout. 183 00:11:16,108 --> 00:11:19,245 Republic Network has learned that he can be in Central America. 184 00:11:19,311 --> 00:11:22,281 {\an8}I would have been arrested if I had been available to the police. 185 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:26,052 Gujarat media and police they destroyed my ashram, 186 00:11:26,118 --> 00:11:27,386 which was in Gujarat. 187 00:11:27,953 --> 00:11:32,291 {\an8}We need to build a larger temple ecosystem 188 00:11:32,925 --> 00:11:34,260 {\an8}outside India. 189 00:11:34,827 --> 00:11:37,997 {\an8}We can have our own internal administration 190 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,033 {\an8}including law, order and a judiciary. 191 00:11:41,767 --> 00:11:44,403 {\an8}Let's do it according to Hinduism. 192 00:11:44,670 --> 00:11:49,842 {\an8}Whoever wants to take the vows of sanyas to protect Hinduism 193 00:11:50,976 --> 00:11:52,178 {\an8}is very welcome. 194 00:11:52,845 --> 00:11:55,548 {\an8}You can live a peaceful life of Hindu monk. 195 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:59,018 This is the only hope we have 196 00:11:59,385 --> 00:12:01,921 for the future of humanity. 197 00:12:15,668 --> 00:12:18,037 The search is the way of life. 198 00:12:18,471 --> 00:12:19,905 We are all looking for something. 199 00:12:22,174 --> 00:12:24,510 Since we are grounded in truth, 200 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:27,480 that we are in it, it does not abandon us. 201 00:12:27,546 --> 00:12:31,650 She will be there, with you, all the time. 202 00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:42,261 So there is no end, there is no conclusion, there is no finitude. 203 00:12:42,761 --> 00:12:44,997 It's being in the now. 204 00:12:45,331 --> 00:12:47,366 That is the goal of spirituality. 205 00:12:50,302 --> 00:12:52,738 I think South India always had that. 206 00:12:52,805 --> 00:12:55,541 Many temples, many churches, 207 00:12:55,608 --> 00:12:58,110 places of religious worship. 208 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:01,180 Every day, religiosity is very strong. 209 00:13:02,181 --> 00:13:05,718 We saw this religiosity be channeled to someone 210 00:13:06,152 --> 00:13:10,189 who claims to be divine and performs miracles. 211 00:13:13,926 --> 00:13:17,296 I believe that spirituality It is our biggest vice. 212 00:13:17,363 --> 00:13:20,833 Once one gets into it, She starts to believe in a lot of things. 213 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:25,571 Otherwise, India would not have so many self-proclaimed divine men. 214 00:13:25,938 --> 00:13:27,673 We have seen many of them. 215 00:13:31,443 --> 00:13:33,779 A spiritual guru must be spontaneous. 216 00:13:35,381 --> 00:13:39,885 Now we have the country of ascetics, of swamis, of divine men. 217 00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:53,432 God has been, for a long time and to many, 218 00:13:53,499 --> 00:13:56,869 an easily traded commodity. 219 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,908 Everyone gets involved 220 00:14:02,975 --> 00:14:07,046 because everyone wants to know the shortest way to heaven. 221 00:14:07,112 --> 00:14:10,015 And suddenly, that person can take you there. 222 00:14:10,616 --> 00:14:15,221 What we want is someone to say that man has a lot of power. 223 00:14:16,322 --> 00:14:18,958 Someone with paranormal power. 224 00:14:19,291 --> 00:14:22,161 And if someone like Nithyananda 225 00:14:22,228 --> 00:14:24,630 managed to promise or show this, 226 00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:26,565 Of course people will follow you. 227 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:32,204 You need to create a story around the thing. 228 00:14:32,571 --> 00:14:35,941 Even if there are no stories, it is necessary to create them. 229 00:14:36,508 --> 00:14:38,110 {\an8}A PLOT THAT GOT WRONG 230 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:45,150 {\an8}EARLY 2000s A HEALER COMES TO TOWN 231 00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:48,287 He started out as a healer. 232 00:14:48,354 --> 00:14:51,090 He went to hospitals, cured people, 233 00:14:51,523 --> 00:14:54,493 and took the credit if any of them improved. 234 00:14:55,261 --> 00:14:57,663 Then, little by little, he began offering programs. 235 00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:59,531 That's how it started and grew. 236 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:04,870 He was a new kind of divine man 237 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:07,506 who accepted everything the person did, 238 00:15:07,973 --> 00:15:11,944 he didn't make the person feel guilty as a traditional divine man. 239 00:15:12,011 --> 00:15:16,215 He started as one of the young spiritual enthusiasts 240 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:17,583 from Tiruvannamalai. 241 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:22,154 It is the center of spirituality in the Tamil Nadu region. 242 00:15:22,721 --> 00:15:24,857 There are many ashrams there, always have been. 243 00:15:24,923 --> 00:15:29,428 From the beginning, he said disciple of Ramakrishna institute. 244 00:15:29,495 --> 00:15:30,963 That was the starting point. 245 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:34,800 He saw that this kind of spirituality guided by an ashram 246 00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:38,237 or organization could make a lot of money. 247 00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:42,708 Can you tell me about the first time Have you heard of Nithyananda? 248 00:15:43,075 --> 00:15:47,680 The family headed for one of the holiday trips to Munnar. 249 00:15:47,746 --> 00:15:52,384 We had never faced no type of traffic in the place, 250 00:15:52,818 --> 00:15:56,121 So we wanted to know what that was and we asked people 251 00:15:56,188 --> 00:15:58,857 the reason for the transit, if an accident had occurred. 252 00:15:59,191 --> 00:16:00,659 And they said no, 253 00:16:00,726 --> 00:16:02,594 that Nithyananda had arrived. 254 00:16:02,661 --> 00:16:04,797 I had never heard that name. 255 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:10,569 And someone told me he was like a god. 256 00:16:11,437 --> 00:16:15,107 He was between 20 and 25 years old. 257 00:16:17,443 --> 00:16:19,611 There was definitely something there. 258 00:16:19,978 --> 00:16:23,248 There was an energy around him. 259 00:16:23,315 --> 00:16:25,684 Especially when the guru was there. 260 00:16:25,751 --> 00:16:30,189 We felt a field around him, and we... 261 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:32,524 I kind of liked that. 262 00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:39,264 When I first saw him, 263 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:42,301 he was more or less like that. 264 00:16:42,801 --> 00:16:47,639 He had a group of men and women very influential and rich. 265 00:16:47,973 --> 00:16:52,077 Like his first devotees, they were also ambassadors, 266 00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:56,915 spread around the world the greatness of Nithyananda. 267 00:16:58,183 --> 00:17:02,121 He claims he had the first contact with God 268 00:17:03,021 --> 00:17:04,723 while meditating on a hill. 269 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:10,429 I was sitting on a rock on Mount Arunachala, 270 00:17:10,496 --> 00:17:13,899 trying to find the source where the eye looked up from. 271 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:16,702 Suddenly, something happened. 272 00:17:17,035 --> 00:17:20,239 I was being sucked in in, pulled, like this. 273 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:23,008 I clearly saw something open. 274 00:17:25,244 --> 00:17:29,481 When the inside opened, I was able to see 360 degrees. 275 00:17:30,282 --> 00:17:32,184 Without opening your eyes. 276 00:17:32,251 --> 00:17:34,853 I could see the whole thing, everything around me. 277 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:39,792 The plants, the rocks, the trees, everything. 278 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,896 I could feel who was alive at all. 279 00:17:44,963 --> 00:17:47,766 The same way I felt alive with the entire cosmos. 280 00:17:50,836 --> 00:17:55,174 When I met him, he was talking about an experiment. 281 00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,109 This report... 282 00:17:58,610 --> 00:18:00,212 "The Mind of a Mystic", 283 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,282 from some of the best and more experienced doctors 284 00:18:03,348 --> 00:18:07,152 neuropsychologists and Oklahoma City researchers. 285 00:18:07,219 --> 00:18:11,156 And the test results with Swami were not normal. 286 00:18:11,223 --> 00:18:15,027 I define a mystic as someone who believes 287 00:18:15,093 --> 00:18:19,565 in the existence of realities beyond human understanding. 288 00:18:20,632 --> 00:18:24,903 In this sense, Albert Einstein was a mystic. 289 00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:27,005 This is what Swami showed. 290 00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:30,108 This is something I never had seen in life. 291 00:18:30,175 --> 00:18:33,011 What we see is an indication that deep meditation 292 00:18:33,078 --> 00:18:34,680 can activate an area of the brain 293 00:18:34,746 --> 00:18:38,183 responsible for looking deeply the mysteries of yourself 294 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:42,421 and creation, thus putting us, in connection with pleasure or the divine. 295 00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:47,493 I believed. At that moment, as a journalist, when I interviewed him, 296 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:50,529 I believed there was something extraordinary about that man. 297 00:18:51,663 --> 00:18:54,433 But we have good and bad figures. 298 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:55,934 The tragedy is that... 299 00:18:56,502 --> 00:18:59,905 not even intelligent people can differentiate a bad figure 300 00:19:00,172 --> 00:19:01,907 in a good way. 301 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,977 The man who introduced me 302 00:19:05,777 --> 00:19:08,814 to Nithyananda in 2004, 303 00:19:09,181 --> 00:19:11,717 it was very successful and traditional. 304 00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:16,288 Like me at that moment, he also believed what he said. 305 00:19:16,922 --> 00:19:19,725 And many of them believed. 306 00:19:19,791 --> 00:19:23,562 They go so deep, they go in so much, travel so far 307 00:19:23,629 --> 00:19:28,367 so close, who can no longer free themselves. 308 00:19:31,870 --> 00:19:34,439 When we started going to the ashram, I was a child. 309 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,609 I was raised in this sect. 310 00:19:38,076 --> 00:19:42,014 So I thought that way your whole life. 311 00:19:42,381 --> 00:19:46,184 I spent a lot of time talking to him alone 312 00:19:46,251 --> 00:19:48,887 and he knew us, knew our family. 313 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:52,558 He was very charming, cute, playful. 314 00:19:52,624 --> 00:19:56,194 I liked how he paid attention for me and my sister. 315 00:19:56,261 --> 00:19:59,498 Sometimes there was a crowd of 100 people 316 00:19:59,565 --> 00:20:03,502 and he spoke our name, or said something about both of us. 317 00:20:03,969 --> 00:20:06,572 We felt very special with these things. 318 00:20:07,773 --> 00:20:10,409 He knew that my parents were divorced. 319 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:14,913 I knew there was a lot of hostility between them 320 00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:16,715 and between us and our father. 321 00:20:16,782 --> 00:20:20,652 He said we didn't need it of a father, that he was our father. 322 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:24,590 He put himself in this position in our lives. 323 00:20:24,656 --> 00:20:28,160 And we saw it that way for a long time. We didn't need a father. 324 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,396 And he always said that I was his daughter, 325 00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:34,700 So that was one of the things that made me believe 326 00:20:34,766 --> 00:20:37,469 that he wasn't bad, who did good things. 327 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:40,439 Everyone has a story like this. 328 00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:51,083 Seeing him was like seeing a god. 329 00:20:51,149 --> 00:20:53,452 The glow on his face 330 00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:56,254 made him look like with a true god. 331 00:20:56,521 --> 00:21:00,258 He wore simple colored robes of saffron and a seed necklace. 332 00:21:00,892 --> 00:21:02,728 He wore no gold ornaments. 333 00:21:03,629 --> 00:21:08,266 His room was 3 x 3 meters, a table fan and a bed. 334 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,135 That was his room. 335 00:21:10,202 --> 00:21:13,672 After seeing it, I thought I had chosen the right person as guru. 336 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,876 All my life, I was interested in Hinduism. 337 00:21:18,877 --> 00:21:21,279 I can remember when I was 13 338 00:21:21,346 --> 00:21:23,515 and I saw a vision of the goddess Kali. 339 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:27,786 I didn't know who she was, I only saw this beautiful woman 340 00:21:28,353 --> 00:21:31,223 surrounded by skulls with a bindi. 341 00:21:31,289 --> 00:21:34,960 And only years later, When I went to art college 342 00:21:35,494 --> 00:21:37,963 in one of my books of Art History, 343 00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,899 opened to a random page and she was there, 344 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:43,769 in this book, looking at me, and I thought "Oh my God, 345 00:21:43,835 --> 00:21:45,537 She is the woman of my vision." 346 00:21:45,871 --> 00:21:49,408 One of the first lines said that Kali is the goddess of darkness. 347 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:51,410 And I thought, "Damn, 348 00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:54,546 I was meditating to overcome I was afraid of the dark when I saw her." 349 00:21:54,913 --> 00:21:57,716 I think I called my mom that night and said 350 00:21:57,783 --> 00:22:00,085 who had discovered that there was a religion 351 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,421 but it wasn't what she thought, it was Hinduism. 352 00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:06,258 So I found that we would do a service to humanity 353 00:22:06,324 --> 00:22:09,461 spreading teachings of enlightenment, teaching yoga, 354 00:22:09,528 --> 00:22:10,962 teaching meditation. 355 00:22:17,402 --> 00:22:19,971 {\an8}JANUARY 2003 A KINGDOM COMES REAL 356 00:22:20,372 --> 00:22:24,009 Every divine man finds great 357 00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:26,378 sponsors, friends. 358 00:22:28,346 --> 00:22:30,015 In politics. 359 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:35,020 Ministers, heads of cabinet. Then he found 360 00:22:35,353 --> 00:22:37,723 a safe place in Bidadi. 361 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:47,666 {\an8}OPENING CEREMONY JANUARY FIFTH, 2003 362 00:22:58,243 --> 00:23:02,080 The ashram was in the middle of a forest. 363 00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:06,418 When we spent two days there, 364 00:23:06,785 --> 00:23:10,122 he made us practice a type of meditation. 365 00:23:12,257 --> 00:23:16,161 On the holiday of Guru Poornima, we all ate with him in the kitchen. 366 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:19,464 I remember mom of Swami serving us food. 367 00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:23,468 And it was a very pleasant experience. 368 00:23:24,102 --> 00:23:27,939 And he gave a short speech about the importance of a guru. 369 00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:32,244 He showed us a different perspective. 370 00:23:32,644 --> 00:23:37,015 I was exposed to a world and different methodology 371 00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:38,984 to reach yourself. 372 00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:42,587 In the beginning, only devotees and priests were important. 373 00:23:42,654 --> 00:23:46,258 Only they really mattered. 374 00:23:47,692 --> 00:23:53,165 When he appeared, it was as if he were an avatar of God. 375 00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:57,035 At the time, many devotees started making donations. 376 00:23:57,536 --> 00:23:59,838 They gave him a lot of money. 377 00:24:00,305 --> 00:24:04,409 It helped him to develop very quickly. 378 00:24:07,012 --> 00:24:08,780 No other swami 379 00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:11,683 developed so quickly as Nithyananda. 380 00:24:11,983 --> 00:24:14,119 The ashram is divided into departments. 381 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:16,188 It has a 21 day program, 382 00:24:16,822 --> 00:24:19,891 in which the person is trained living in the ashram. 383 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:24,262 And, based on skills that the person has, 384 00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:26,998 she is allocated to different departments. 385 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:31,837 It’s called the Adinavasi Program. One learns to be an adinavasi. 386 00:24:32,237 --> 00:24:35,040 From 1,500 to 2,000 people they went to the first one. 387 00:24:35,106 --> 00:24:37,475 It's something that draws a lot of attention, 388 00:24:37,542 --> 00:24:41,246 especially for those who want to live in a community 389 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:44,082 which is not society normal everyday life. 390 00:24:44,416 --> 00:24:47,619 So many people went, looking that community and that life. 391 00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:56,228 My parents got divorced when I was 11 years old. 392 00:24:56,294 --> 00:24:57,362 It was difficult. 393 00:24:57,429 --> 00:25:01,766 My father stayed methamphetamine addict. 394 00:25:03,535 --> 00:25:06,638 And I was already old to find out what was happening. 395 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:12,510 My father stayed out of my life 396 00:25:13,545 --> 00:25:15,714 for long periods. 397 00:25:16,147 --> 00:25:20,619 My initiation on the spiritual path it was at the moment 398 00:25:20,685 --> 00:25:22,721 in which I wondered who created God. 399 00:25:24,155 --> 00:25:29,527 So, I became a seeker. And my whole life has been searching 400 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,430 for these responses. 401 00:25:34,432 --> 00:25:38,169 I always had deep questions about life. 402 00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:42,540 I couldn't get any answers, but Nithy managed to help me with them. 403 00:25:43,942 --> 00:25:47,545 This whole show is about... 404 00:25:47,979 --> 00:25:50,382 Can't see it? 405 00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:51,849 I'll fix it. 406 00:25:55,587 --> 00:25:56,587 Right. 407 00:25:57,689 --> 00:26:00,425 So I'll have to repeat everything. 408 00:26:02,093 --> 00:26:05,764 The next statements I will make They are very mystical. 409 00:26:06,164 --> 00:26:07,232 Do you understand? 410 00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:11,469 An enlightened person is someone established at the present time. 411 00:26:12,103 --> 00:26:15,540 She's not lost in the future nor lost in the past. 412 00:26:18,777 --> 00:26:19,777 Do you understand? 413 00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:22,547 And one more thing, 414 00:26:23,682 --> 00:26:25,784 future, past, present. 415 00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:29,454 When joined together, the three are called eternity. 416 00:26:29,854 --> 00:26:30,854 Am I not right? 417 00:26:31,656 --> 00:26:33,758 Eternal means nithya. 418 00:26:46,004 --> 00:26:49,174 Eternal means nithya. 419 00:26:50,742 --> 00:26:53,478 We were sitting listening to his speech, 420 00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:58,850 suddenly he asked his students look for something inside, 421 00:26:58,917 --> 00:27:01,486 then they brought and placed it on an altar. 422 00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:05,223 And he showed. To our surprise, 423 00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:10,362 it was an image of Swami. Half Shiva, half Shakti. 424 00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:15,700 Everyone applauded and he said: "Now I'm going to show it to the world." 425 00:27:16,101 --> 00:27:19,270 I said I didn't think that he should do that. 426 00:27:19,571 --> 00:27:23,842 That he didn't need to give this type of representation to the world. 427 00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:26,911 When a serious seeker is exposed to the world, 428 00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:31,950 he may end up being skeptical in relation to these representations. 429 00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:33,651 He was not a normal swami. 430 00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:36,021 There was no one to advise him. 431 00:27:36,087 --> 00:27:38,056 There was no engineer greater than him. 432 00:27:38,123 --> 00:27:41,960 There was no greater philosopher than him. There was no one above him. 433 00:27:42,027 --> 00:27:44,729 In the beginning it was very different how it turned out afterwards. 434 00:27:45,063 --> 00:27:49,167 If you want to avoid spiritual growth, the best way is to judge the masters. 435 00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:53,038 Start judging so you don't have to judge yourself. 436 00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:56,241 A lot of people ask me, a guy the other day said to me, 437 00:27:56,941 --> 00:27:59,978 a young man told me 438 00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:03,581 that just like Vivekananda asked Ramakrishna, 439 00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:06,785 he wanted to ask me if I had seen God. 440 00:28:07,452 --> 00:28:09,554 I replied... I said... 441 00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:14,125 that not only had I seen, as I was ready to show him. 442 00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:19,864 There are few people who get into something like this 443 00:28:20,231 --> 00:28:23,635 who discover, understand and say 444 00:28:23,902 --> 00:28:27,572 that is not so much a religious journey 445 00:28:27,939 --> 00:28:30,041 which is done individually or in a group, 446 00:28:30,108 --> 00:28:34,079 but a way to be convinced joining a sect. 447 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,217 The way he dressed, how he spoke, how he laughed, 448 00:28:39,284 --> 00:28:44,556 everything was an attempt to create, everything was very conscious. 449 00:28:44,622 --> 00:28:48,760 He knew what he was doing. But it definitely had a cult feel to it. 450 00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:54,199 He ran the Bidadi ashram like a small state. 451 00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:57,802 And there, he was everything. 452 00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:05,243 Everyone has the feeling that he also has this power, 453 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:08,079 but doesn't know how to bring it out. 454 00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:11,783 And we all went there bring out through it. 455 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:15,653 That was the intention. But once that the person enters the ashram, 456 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,524 she forgets who has a husband, who has children 457 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:21,292 forget all your relatives. 458 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:23,228 You don't remember anyone else. 459 00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:25,697 There is a concept of guruvak. 460 00:29:26,064 --> 00:29:28,399 Guruvak is one of the things most important, 461 00:29:28,466 --> 00:29:30,368 especially for a sanyasi. 462 00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:33,304 It's like giving up your life, your family, everything. 463 00:29:33,371 --> 00:29:37,675 The guru is everything, what he says, you have to do. 464 00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:40,612 There's no way to say no, there is no way to think about saying no. 465 00:29:40,678 --> 00:29:42,780 You have to do that and that's it. 466 00:29:42,847 --> 00:29:45,116 He repeated a phrase from the Guru-Gita, 467 00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:48,820 "You must cut out your tongue of the person who abuses his guru." 468 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,724 There was a day, in his speech, in which he told us 469 00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:57,562 that unless we took ten people for the inner awakening program, 470 00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:59,998 we could not consider ourselves his disciples. 471 00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:03,868 I felt like I needed to do that, that I couldn't just stay 472 00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:09,807 receiving from him all the time, the teachings, the energy, the attention. 473 00:30:09,874 --> 00:30:12,343 I needed to contribute with his mission. 474 00:30:12,911 --> 00:30:16,648 So I created a channel on Youtube where he spoke 475 00:30:16,714 --> 00:30:19,517 about what I had experienced on the program. 476 00:30:20,251 --> 00:30:23,955 I had no idea that thousands of people would sign up 477 00:30:24,022 --> 00:30:27,025 and start watching. And... 478 00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:31,696 That's how so many people started going to programs saying 479 00:30:31,763 --> 00:30:34,132 who got there through my videos. 480 00:30:34,465 --> 00:30:36,935 A cult that grew stronger, 481 00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:40,471 everyone talked about miracles that he carried out 482 00:30:40,538 --> 00:30:43,641 or people and their lives they had changed. 483 00:30:43,708 --> 00:30:46,444 Rational, intelligent people, 484 00:30:47,111 --> 00:30:51,082 and questioners followed someone like Nithyananda. 485 00:30:51,149 --> 00:30:53,251 You can see it in their eyes, 486 00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:54,919 you can hear it in their voice 487 00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:58,289 when they talk about this man. 488 00:30:58,756 --> 00:31:01,859 We see that he has a lot of faith. 489 00:31:01,926 --> 00:31:04,462 But could something bad can happen 490 00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,297 in an ashram? Never. 491 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:10,668 So there's the idea that ashrams are beautiful places, 492 00:31:10,735 --> 00:31:14,772 good places where you pray and meditate 493 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,875 and of course, you grow as a person. 494 00:31:18,243 --> 00:31:22,347 But the person realizes that It's not a gift you received 495 00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:24,849 willingly. 496 00:31:31,956 --> 00:31:33,992 Inside, there is a saying 497 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:37,462 which says that rumors spread faster than the truth. 498 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:42,667 At that time, film actors also attended the ashram. 499 00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:45,336 When Ranjitha arrived, 500 00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:49,274 especially for those who are from the countryside, when a famous person appears 501 00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:52,143 It's something great. 502 00:31:53,011 --> 00:31:56,714 In March 2010, around this time, 503 00:31:56,981 --> 00:32:00,785 rumors began to emerge that something big was going to happen. 504 00:32:07,892 --> 00:32:10,094 {\an8}MARCH 2010 A HISTORICAL SCANDAL 505 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:13,097 He has more than six companies in the US. 506 00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:16,901 Please. If he is nobody, It's not just for money laundering, 507 00:32:17,502 --> 00:32:18,936 It's more than that, 508 00:32:19,003 --> 00:32:23,474 It's mainly for sisters and mothers, but there are men too. 509 00:32:24,642 --> 00:32:25,943 How do you know? 510 00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:32,150 There was some gossip about a CD. 511 00:32:36,387 --> 00:32:38,890 I never imagined that would reach that level. 512 00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:41,224 Greetings. 513 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,862 The false divine man, 514 00:32:45,463 --> 00:32:46,798 Nithyananda. 515 00:32:46,864 --> 00:32:50,902 It's enough that we have who bear witness to sins 516 00:32:50,968 --> 00:32:52,370 of our society... 517 00:33:01,212 --> 00:33:05,116 There was a man lying like that on a bed. 518 00:33:06,351 --> 00:33:10,054 Me and my colleague from Kumudam magazine we identify him as the Swami. 519 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,324 So I grabbed a chair and watched. 520 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:17,795 I thought it was just him sleeping, I was almost getting up 521 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:20,264 when a woman arrived and sat on the bed. 522 00:33:20,631 --> 00:33:23,568 And I thought, "Why would a woman Did you enter his room? 523 00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:25,370 Go, go, carry on.” 524 00:33:28,806 --> 00:33:31,576 My colleague said, "Look, he knew who she was." 525 00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:34,779 And he was right. She tied her sari, 526 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:37,248 climbed into bed, He sat next to him and started. 527 00:33:37,548 --> 00:33:39,751 I was shocked for seeing him do that. 528 00:33:40,284 --> 00:33:42,620 How could we let this go? 529 00:33:43,087 --> 00:33:45,490 I thought it couldn't go unpunished. 530 00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:47,992 Right away, I called my team 531 00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:50,361 and I decided to let go an edition that night. 532 00:33:54,499 --> 00:33:57,635 After we published it in the magazine, a TV channel showed the video. 533 00:34:09,714 --> 00:34:11,849 The whole city freaked out. 534 00:34:11,916 --> 00:34:13,851 It was tremendous chaos. 535 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:16,554 That baba should be hanged. 536 00:34:16,621 --> 00:34:18,256 He tarnished Hindu society. 537 00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:19,957 Out with Nithyananda! 538 00:34:21,325 --> 00:34:22,493 Outside! 539 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,932 Nithyananda Swami needs to be arrested as quickly as possible. 540 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:35,039 {\an8}The position in which he puts himself of ascetic does not include 541 00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,976 this type of activity, as it is not just any individual. 542 00:34:39,277 --> 00:34:42,346 You and I are individuals, but he is not. 543 00:34:44,482 --> 00:34:46,951 I saw the huts burning in the ashram. 544 00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:49,821 The news was a scandal in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. 545 00:34:49,887 --> 00:34:53,458 The information that came from them is that we were being attacked 546 00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:57,495 and that it was false. And where is Swami? Nobody knew. 547 00:34:57,562 --> 00:35:00,832 The Swami had already fled from there. 548 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:02,265 It wasn't there. 549 00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:06,871 For three or four days, the police were looking 550 00:35:07,405 --> 00:35:11,976 by Swami everywhere. The newspapers only talked about it. 551 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:16,447 It was very difficult having to... 552 00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:18,549 Having to digest. 553 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:22,119 Everyone has their own mental projections of a guru, right? 554 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:26,390 So nobody wants to see their guru descending to a human level 555 00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:28,226 and letting yourself go. 556 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:32,897 I think this kind of thing it didn't go down very well 557 00:35:33,531 --> 00:35:35,333 with none of his devotees. 558 00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:38,669 Indians cannot accept that an ascetic 559 00:35:38,736 --> 00:35:41,005 who wears saffron robes do those things. 560 00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:42,373 It's in our psyche. 561 00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:45,076 We want them to be celibate. 562 00:35:45,142 --> 00:35:47,912 The police went to Nithyananda's ashram, 563 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,413 as well as reporters 564 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,350 and people from different organizations. There was a crowd. 565 00:35:52,416 --> 00:35:55,887 The police officers who raided the ashram Nithyananda's were friends of mine. 566 00:35:56,153 --> 00:35:57,955 I asked what they had discovered 567 00:35:58,022 --> 00:36:00,791 and talked about an agreement of confidentiality. 568 00:36:01,058 --> 00:36:03,661 There are many signs that the divine man used sex, 569 00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:06,797 sexual energy and tantra with his disciples. 570 00:36:07,398 --> 00:36:10,801 The agreement also says that activities may involve nudity, 571 00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:14,305 access to visual content, graphic visual representations 572 00:36:14,372 --> 00:36:17,575 images of nudity and sexual activity that can involve 573 00:36:17,642 --> 00:36:19,744 physical proximity and intimacy. 574 00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:23,180 The document also says that volunteers 575 00:36:23,247 --> 00:36:27,018 renounce the right to report legally the sect or its leader. 576 00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:30,354 That was a shock for me. 577 00:36:30,421 --> 00:36:32,557 I saw all the details, I was shocked. 578 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,759 This cannot happen in an ashram. 579 00:36:34,825 --> 00:36:38,262 At that moment, I started to feel that there was something worse going on. 580 00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:43,668 At this point, we think that a combination of conspiracy, images, 581 00:36:43,734 --> 00:36:47,004 and rumors are being used in recent events 582 00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:49,206 that unfolded. 583 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,475 We are seeking legal recourse. 584 00:36:52,143 --> 00:36:55,947 The case against Nithyananda is within of article 295-A, 585 00:36:56,314 --> 00:36:58,049 "hurt religious feelings." 586 00:36:58,115 --> 00:37:00,818 Karnataka police raided his ashram 587 00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:03,888 and began a hunt after he disappeared 588 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:06,023 after violent protests against him. 589 00:37:06,457 --> 00:37:09,226 In March 2010, I worked at "Times Now". 590 00:37:09,293 --> 00:37:12,363 I remember getting a call from my editor Arnab Goswami, 591 00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:14,899 {\an8}and he asked if I knew sex video 592 00:37:14,966 --> 00:37:17,335 {\an8}and where was the Swami, because I wanted to find him. 593 00:37:17,401 --> 00:37:20,371 I was trying to find out where was Nithyananda 594 00:37:20,438 --> 00:37:22,306 and how I could interview him. 595 00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:26,110 There I received a call from someone who works with Nithyananda 596 00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:29,680 and they asked me to go to Delhi and from there they would tell me where to go. 597 00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:32,883 I received a call from a Swami with whom I was arranging everything 598 00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:35,286 that you asked me to leave the hotel in ten minutes. 599 00:37:35,353 --> 00:37:38,189 I left the hotel and there was a van outside. 600 00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:40,791 {\an8}The door opened and Swami Nithyananda was inside. 601 00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:45,363 I took the microphone and sat down on your side to do the interview. 602 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:48,165 He asked me to sit a little further, 603 00:37:48,232 --> 00:37:49,934 so I can think about my reputation. 604 00:37:50,001 --> 00:37:54,171 I laughed and said he was the one who should be worried. 605 00:37:54,238 --> 00:37:56,874 Media information from two states in southern India, 606 00:37:56,941 --> 00:38:00,344 Karnataka and Tamil Nadu allege that Swami Paramhamsa Nithyananda 607 00:38:00,411 --> 00:38:03,114 is missing. But the Swami is in Haridwar 608 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:06,217 participating in the Kumbh Mela and speaking to Times Now. 609 00:38:06,517 --> 00:38:09,453 In the last two weeks we saw a lot of controversies. 610 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,288 Has it been very difficult for you? 611 00:38:13,824 --> 00:38:17,161 In the 33 public years of my life, 612 00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:20,598 I saw the height of name and fame. 613 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,633 The most watched guru on the internet 614 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,871 and in recent days, the scandal most watched on the internet. 615 00:38:27,438 --> 00:38:28,973 I saw both things. 616 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,344 The height of name and fame and the height of abuse. 617 00:38:33,711 --> 00:38:37,648 The only thing that shocked me I never thought 618 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:40,818 that there would be so much enmity against me. 619 00:38:41,218 --> 00:38:44,522 There is a general feeling that perhaps you 620 00:38:44,588 --> 00:38:46,557 has betrayed his followers, 621 00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:48,959 because it's someone which talks about abstinence. 622 00:38:49,326 --> 00:38:51,629 You defend abstinence and celibacy? 623 00:38:52,196 --> 00:38:55,666 I always said which is an individual decision. 624 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:58,869 I never promoted one side or the other. 625 00:38:59,236 --> 00:39:02,573 I always said that individuals must choose to live life 626 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,076 - as you wish. - And what do you believe for yourself? 627 00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:07,912 Since I said which is an individual choice. 628 00:39:08,279 --> 00:39:11,849 I believe that in my life there is no lust. 629 00:39:11,916 --> 00:39:14,985 I'm absolutely sure. I don't have lust. 630 00:39:15,386 --> 00:39:17,988 I don't have any... How can I say? 631 00:39:18,055 --> 00:39:19,857 Need to have someone else. 632 00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:23,260 What would be the reason for someone to persecute him or his ashram? 633 00:39:23,661 --> 00:39:26,063 That's what we haven't discovered yet. 634 00:39:26,664 --> 00:39:28,866 We still don't know what could be the reason. 635 00:39:31,335 --> 00:39:34,538 Don't you see that you are weak minded 636 00:39:35,339 --> 00:39:37,908 who takes pleasure in attacking someone's personal life? 637 00:39:40,511 --> 00:39:42,947 Legally, this can be prevented in India. 638 00:39:45,616 --> 00:39:47,785 When I interviewed Nithyananda 639 00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:50,454 I didn't think I needed it go hard on him, 640 00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:55,059 because that was just a video and several disappointed devotees. 641 00:39:55,659 --> 00:39:57,695 That's not it that my journalism represents. 642 00:39:58,062 --> 00:40:01,999 From the beginning, there were two whistleblowers throughout Nithyananda's saga 643 00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:05,536 that they realized in 2010 that what was happening at the ashram 644 00:40:05,603 --> 00:40:08,806 it wasn't right. It was them who put the camera in the room 645 00:40:08,873 --> 00:40:10,307 and recorded the images. 646 00:40:10,374 --> 00:40:13,477 You were the only person who appeared and reported it. 647 00:40:13,544 --> 00:40:16,614 Now, inside the ashram, people believe he is God. 648 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,183 He is a God, we search for him, 649 00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:21,118 he is examining us. 650 00:40:21,185 --> 00:40:24,822 But the teachings they are just one side of him. 651 00:40:24,889 --> 00:40:26,857 Off screen, he abused me. 652 00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:29,226 He abused, as far as I know, at the very least 653 00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:33,030 of 30 or 40 girls and men too. 654 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:35,599 You and others. Where are these others? 655 00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:38,169 - Are they inside? - Just one. One person. 656 00:40:38,235 --> 00:40:40,371 - Just one more? - One more person is there. 657 00:40:40,437 --> 00:40:43,207 I won't say now, maybe I will say directly in court, 658 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,375 in front of the judge. 659 00:40:44,441 --> 00:40:47,044 Do you want justice for yourself? For Hinduism? 660 00:40:47,378 --> 00:40:49,246 - Like this? In what sense? - Punishment. 661 00:40:49,313 --> 00:40:50,948 I want the truth to be told. 662 00:40:51,448 --> 00:40:52,583 Let it be revealed. 663 00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:54,919 After the interview was broadcast, 664 00:40:55,186 --> 00:40:58,322 it was a bit annoying that the police are not after him. 665 00:40:58,656 --> 00:41:01,225 Finally, they ended up arresting him. a week later. 666 00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:04,662 The accused, Swami Nithyananda, he was finally arrested by the police 667 00:41:04,728 --> 00:41:07,464 and the department of Karnataka investigations. 668 00:41:07,531 --> 00:41:11,202 The fugitive false divine man was arrested in a village in Himachal Pradesh 669 00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:14,004 and will be presented to the court later. 670 00:41:15,706 --> 00:41:19,743 But for me, Nithyananda became someone to be followed, 671 00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:22,913 a story to be told. It needed to be investigated. 672 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:25,916 His whole story needed to be investigated. 673 00:41:25,983 --> 00:41:28,052 What happened a few weeks later, 674 00:41:28,118 --> 00:41:30,855 when rape is reported was made against him. 675 00:41:30,921 --> 00:41:34,892 Swami Nithyananda delivered your passport to the Ramanagara police, 676 00:41:34,959 --> 00:41:38,629 who filed several charges criminal charges against him, including rape. 677 00:41:39,296 --> 00:41:40,998 I came to the media today 678 00:41:41,498 --> 00:41:43,100 for the truth to be known. 679 00:41:45,302 --> 00:41:49,907 So that you do not commit the mistake I made. 680 00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:51,976 At least you can save yourselves.