1 00:00:01,011 --> 00:00:03,125 Downloaded from www.opensubtitles.org 2 00:00:44,627 --> 00:00:47,588 The way we eat has changed more in the last 50 years 3 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:49,631 than in the previous 10,000. 4 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,553 But the image that's used to sell the food, 5 00:00:54,596 --> 00:00:58,474 it is still the imagery of agrarian America. 6 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:09,318 You go into the supermarket and you see pictures of farmers, 7 00:01:11,154 --> 00:01:13,113 the picket fence, the silo, 8 00:01:13,156 --> 00:01:15,324 the '30s farmhouse and the green grass. 9 00:01:17,535 --> 00:01:20,120 It's the spinning of this pastoral fantasy. 10 00:01:29,506 --> 00:01:31,006 The modern American supermarket 11 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:34,009 has on average 47,000 products. 12 00:01:46,397 --> 00:01:49,066 There are no seasons in the American supermarket. 13 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:51,151 Now there are tomatoes all year round, 14 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:54,071 grown halfway around the world, picked when it was green, 15 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:56,698 and ripened with ethylene gas. 16 00:02:00,411 --> 00:02:02,037 Although it looks like a tomato, 17 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,039 it's kind of a notional tomato. 18 00:02:04,082 --> 00:02:06,416 I mean, it's the idea of a tomato. 19 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:29,481 In the meat aisle, there are no bones anymore. 20 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:36,155 There is this deliberate veil, 21 00:02:36,197 --> 00:02:38,282 this curtain, that's dropped between us 22 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:40,784 and where our food is coming from. 23 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:43,704 The industry doesn't want you to know the truth 24 00:02:43,746 --> 00:02:45,247 about what you're eating, 25 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:48,250 because if you knew, you might not want to eat it. 26 00:02:51,921 --> 00:02:53,505 If you follow the food chain back 27 00:02:53,548 --> 00:02:55,883 from those shrink-wrapped packages of meat, 28 00:02:55,925 --> 00:02:58,218 you find a very different reality. 29 00:02:58,261 --> 00:03:00,137 The reality is a factory. 30 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,264 It's not a farm. It's a factory. 31 00:03:02,307 --> 00:03:04,266 That meat is being processed 32 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:07,394 by huge multinational corporations 33 00:03:07,437 --> 00:03:10,439 that have very little to do with ranches and farmers. 34 00:03:10,481 --> 00:03:14,818 Now our food is coming from enormous assembly lines 35 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:18,697 where the animals and the workers are being abused. 36 00:03:20,116 --> 00:03:22,492 And the food has become much more dangerous 37 00:03:22,535 --> 00:03:25,996 in ways that are being deliberately hidden from us. 38 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:29,499 You've got a small group of multinational corporations 39 00:03:29,542 --> 00:03:32,419 who control the entire food system. 40 00:03:33,671 --> 00:03:35,380 From seed to the supermarket, 41 00:03:35,423 --> 00:03:37,424 they're gaining control of food. 42 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:42,054 This isn't just about what we're eating. 43 00:03:42,096 --> 00:03:44,681 This is about what we're allowed to say, 44 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:46,808 what we're allowed to know. 45 00:03:46,851 --> 00:03:49,228 It's not just our health that's at risk. 46 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:52,940 The companies don't want farmers talking. 47 00:03:52,982 --> 00:03:56,318 They don't want this story told. 48 00:04:16,297 --> 00:04:18,674 How about a nice chicken club sandwich made with fresh cooked chicken? 49 00:04:18,716 --> 00:04:21,385 You know, that's a nice idea, 50 00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:23,387 but I think what I'd really like 51 00:04:23,429 --> 00:04:26,098 - is a burger. - All right. 52 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,520 My favorite meal to this day 53 00:04:31,562 --> 00:04:33,855 remains a hamburger and french fries. 54 00:04:37,235 --> 00:04:39,903 I had no idea that a handful of companies 55 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:42,864 had changed what we eat and how we make our food. 56 00:04:46,202 --> 00:04:48,161 I've been eating this food all my life 57 00:04:48,204 --> 00:04:50,247 without having any idea where it comes from, 58 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:53,292 any idea how powerful this industry is. 59 00:04:53,334 --> 00:04:55,335 And it was the idea 60 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:59,256 of this world deliberately hidden from us. 61 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:01,258 I think that's one of the reasons why 62 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:03,260 I became an investigative reporter, 63 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:06,179 was to take the veil-- lift the veil away 64 00:05:06,222 --> 00:05:09,975 from important subjects that are being hidden. 65 00:05:14,022 --> 00:05:15,981 The whole industrial food system 66 00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:18,358 really began with fast food. 67 00:05:18,401 --> 00:05:20,652 In the 1930s, 68 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:22,404 a new form of restaurant arose 69 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,448 and it was called the drive-in. 70 00:05:27,493 --> 00:05:30,329 The McDonald brothers had a very successful drive-in, 71 00:05:30,371 --> 00:05:34,541 but they decided to cut costs and simplify. 72 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:36,793 So they fired all their carhops, 73 00:05:36,836 --> 00:05:39,129 they got rid of most of the things on the menu 74 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,715 and they created a revolutionary idea 75 00:05:41,758 --> 00:05:43,633 to how to run a restaurant. 76 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:46,178 They basically brought the factory system 77 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:48,764 to the back of the restaurant kitchen. 78 00:05:52,143 --> 00:05:55,187 They trained each worker to just do one thing 79 00:05:55,229 --> 00:05:57,689 again and again and again. 80 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:03,153 By having workers who only had to do one thing, 81 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:05,322 they could pay them a low wage 82 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:08,742 and it was very easy to find someone to replace them. 83 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:12,662 It was inexpensive food, it tasted good 84 00:06:12,705 --> 00:06:15,957 and this McDonald's fast food restaurant 85 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,502 was a huge huge success. 86 00:06:21,714 --> 00:06:24,716 That mentality of uniformity, 87 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,718 conformity and cheapness 88 00:06:26,761 --> 00:06:29,179 applied widely and on a large scale 89 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:32,140 has all kinds of unintended consequences. 90 00:06:36,604 --> 00:06:39,272 When McDonald's is the largest purchaser 91 00:06:39,315 --> 00:06:41,733 of ground beef in the United States 92 00:06:41,776 --> 00:06:43,735 and they want their hamburgers 93 00:06:43,778 --> 00:06:46,113 to taste, everywhere, exactly the same, 94 00:06:46,155 --> 00:06:49,032 they change how ground beef is produced. 95 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:55,163 The McDonald's corporation 96 00:06:55,206 --> 00:06:57,582 is the largest purchaser of potatoes 97 00:06:57,625 --> 00:07:00,502 and one of the largest purchasers of pork, 98 00:07:00,545 --> 00:07:04,256 chicken, tomatoes, lettuce, even apples. 99 00:07:05,383 --> 00:07:07,467 These big big fast food chains 100 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:09,469 want big suppliers. 101 00:07:09,512 --> 00:07:12,389 And now there are essentially a handful of companies 102 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:14,224 controlling our food system. 103 00:07:22,066 --> 00:07:25,026 In the 1970s, the top five beef-packers 104 00:07:25,069 --> 00:07:27,988 controlled only about 25% of the market. 105 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:30,866 Today, the top four 106 00:07:30,908 --> 00:07:33,535 control more than 80% of the market. 107 00:07:36,122 --> 00:07:38,498 You see the same thing happening now in pork. 108 00:07:40,918 --> 00:07:43,211 Even if you don't eat at a fast food restaurant, 109 00:07:43,254 --> 00:07:46,590 you're now eating meat that's being produced 110 00:07:46,632 --> 00:07:49,259 by this system. 111 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,556 You look at the labels 112 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:56,391 and you see Farmer this, Farmer that-- 113 00:07:56,434 --> 00:07:59,603 it's really just three or four companies 114 00:07:59,645 --> 00:08:02,439 that are controlling the meat. 115 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:05,650 We've never had food companies this big 116 00:08:05,693 --> 00:08:08,195 and this powerful in our history. 117 00:08:08,237 --> 00:08:10,197 Tyson, for example, 118 00:08:10,239 --> 00:08:13,909 is the biggest meat-packing company in the history of the world. 119 00:08:13,951 --> 00:08:17,621 The industry changed the entire way that chicken are raised. 120 00:08:19,624 --> 00:08:21,750 Birds are now raised and slaughtered 121 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:24,336 in half the time they were 50 years ago, 122 00:08:24,378 --> 00:08:26,087 but now they're twice as big. 123 00:08:26,130 --> 00:08:28,632 People like to eat white meat, 124 00:08:28,674 --> 00:08:31,092 so they redesigned the chicken 125 00:08:31,135 --> 00:08:33,136 to have large breasts. 126 00:08:34,931 --> 00:08:37,933 They not only changed the chicken, 127 00:08:37,975 --> 00:08:39,893 they changed the farmer. 128 00:08:41,437 --> 00:08:44,147 Today, chicken farmers no longer control their birds. 129 00:08:45,691 --> 00:08:47,984 A company like Tyson 130 00:08:48,027 --> 00:08:50,820 owns the birds from the day they're dropped off 131 00:08:50,863 --> 00:08:52,822 until the day that they're slaughtered. 132 00:08:54,408 --> 00:08:56,660 Let me go to the top. 133 00:08:56,702 --> 00:08:59,287 - This is the Chicken-- - National Chicken Council. 134 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:02,290 The chicken industry has really set a model 135 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:05,043 for the integration of production, processing 136 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:06,628 and marketing of the products 137 00:09:06,671 --> 00:09:09,297 that other industries are now following 138 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:12,342 because they see that we have achieved tremendous economies. 139 00:09:17,306 --> 00:09:19,182 In a way, we're not producing chickens; 140 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:20,934 we're producing food. 141 00:09:22,186 --> 00:09:23,812 It's all highly mechanized. 142 00:09:23,854 --> 00:09:26,189 So all the birds coming off those farms 143 00:09:26,232 --> 00:09:28,567 have to be almost exactly the same size. 144 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:34,990 What the system of intensive production accomplishes 145 00:09:35,032 --> 00:09:38,785 is to produce a lot of food 146 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,162 on a small amount of land 147 00:09:41,205 --> 00:09:43,748 at a very affordable price. 148 00:09:43,791 --> 00:09:46,126 Now somebody explain to me what's wrong with that. 149 00:10:04,395 --> 00:10:07,022 Smells like money to me. 150 00:10:12,737 --> 00:10:15,655 16 chicken houses sit here. 151 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:19,701 And Chuck's son has four over the top of this hill. 152 00:10:19,744 --> 00:10:23,371 The chicken industry came in here 153 00:10:23,414 --> 00:10:26,499 and it's helped this whole community out. 154 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:35,175 Here's my chicken houses here. 155 00:10:37,511 --> 00:10:39,888 I have about 300,000 chickens. 156 00:10:45,436 --> 00:10:47,520 What do you want? 157 00:10:49,774 --> 00:10:52,359 We have a contract with Tyson. 158 00:10:52,401 --> 00:10:55,820 They've been growing chickens for many many years. 159 00:10:55,863 --> 00:10:58,657 It's all a science. They got it figured out. 160 00:10:58,699 --> 00:11:02,077 If you can grow a chicken in 49 days, 161 00:11:02,119 --> 00:11:04,454 why would you want one you gotta grow in three months? 162 00:11:06,165 --> 00:11:07,832 More money in your pocket. 163 00:11:15,549 --> 00:11:18,426 These chickens never see sunlight. 164 00:11:18,469 --> 00:11:21,721 They're pretty much in the dark all the time. 165 00:11:40,866 --> 00:11:43,827 So you think they just want to keep us out? 166 00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:45,870 I don't know. 167 00:11:45,913 --> 00:11:48,206 If I knew, I'd tell you. 168 00:11:48,249 --> 00:11:52,043 It would be nice if y'all could see what we really do, 169 00:11:52,086 --> 00:11:55,171 but as far as y'all going in, 170 00:11:55,214 --> 00:11:57,424 we can't let you do that. 171 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:16,276 I understand why farmers don't want to talk-- 172 00:12:16,318 --> 00:12:18,737 because the company can do what it wants to do 173 00:12:18,779 --> 00:12:21,865 as far as pay goes since they control everything. 174 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:24,743 But it's just gotten to the point 175 00:12:24,785 --> 00:12:27,829 that it's not right what's going on 176 00:12:27,872 --> 00:12:29,831 and I've just made up my mind. 177 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:31,458 I'm gonna say what I have to say. 178 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,877 I understand why others don't want to do it. 179 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:36,129 And I'm just to a point 180 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,756 that it doesn't matter anymore. 181 00:12:37,798 --> 00:12:40,091 Something has to be said. 182 00:12:54,356 --> 00:12:55,982 It is nasty in here. 183 00:12:56,025 --> 00:12:58,401 There's dust flying everywhere. 184 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:00,111 There's feces everywhere. 185 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:02,572 This isn't farming. 186 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:04,449 This is just mass production, 187 00:13:04,492 --> 00:13:06,826 like an assembly line in a factory. 188 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:11,456 When they grow from a chick 189 00:13:11,499 --> 00:13:14,292 and in seven weeks you've got a five-and-a-half- pound chicken, 190 00:13:14,335 --> 00:13:16,795 their bones and their internal organs 191 00:13:16,837 --> 00:13:18,797 can't keep up with the rapid growth. 192 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:22,550 A lot of these chickens here, they can take a few steps 193 00:13:22,593 --> 00:13:25,637 and then they plop down. It's because they can't 194 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,056 keep up all the weight that they're carrying. 195 00:14:06,887 --> 00:14:08,596 That's normal. 196 00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:14,561 There's antibiotics that's put into the feed 197 00:14:14,603 --> 00:14:16,896 and of course that passes through the chicken. 198 00:14:16,939 --> 00:14:20,108 The bacteria builds up a resistance, 199 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:22,735 so antibiotics aren't working anymore. 200 00:14:22,778 --> 00:14:25,738 I have become allergic to all antibiotics 201 00:14:25,781 --> 00:14:27,448 and can't take 'em. 202 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:39,002 When it's dark inside the houses, 203 00:14:39,044 --> 00:14:42,213 the chickens lay down. It's less resistance 204 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,007 when they're being caught. 205 00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:51,222 Traditionally, it's been African-American men. 206 00:14:52,725 --> 00:14:56,895 Now we're seeing more and more Latino catchers-- 207 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:00,356 undocumented workers. 208 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,359 From their point of view, they don't have any rights 209 00:15:03,402 --> 00:15:05,111 and they're just not gonna complain. 210 00:15:05,154 --> 00:15:07,822 The companies like these kind of workers. 211 00:15:09,408 --> 00:15:11,951 It doesn't matter if the chickens get sick. 212 00:15:11,994 --> 00:15:13,953 All of the chickens will go to the plant 213 00:15:13,996 --> 00:15:15,914 for processing. 214 00:15:35,392 --> 00:15:38,728 The companies keep the farmers under their thumb 215 00:15:38,771 --> 00:15:40,939 because of the debt that the farmers have. 216 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:44,567 To build one poultry house 217 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:49,322 is anywhere from $280,000 to $300,000 per house. 218 00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:52,742 And once you make your initial investment, 219 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,744 the companies constantly come back 220 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:56,454 with demands of upgrades 221 00:15:56,497 --> 00:15:58,456 for new equipment, 222 00:15:58,499 --> 00:16:00,458 and the grower has no choice. 223 00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:02,126 They have to do it 224 00:16:02,169 --> 00:16:04,587 or you're threatened with loss of a contract. 225 00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:10,301 This is how they keep the farmers under control. 226 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:12,762 It's how they keep them spending money, 227 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:14,764 going to the bank and borrowing more money. 228 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:17,058 The debt just keeps building. 229 00:16:18,894 --> 00:16:21,896 To have no say in your business, 230 00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:23,898 it's degrading. 231 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:27,151 It's like being a slave to the company. 232 00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:18,661 The idea that you would need to write a book 233 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:20,663 telling people where their food came from 234 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:22,623 is just a sign of how far removed we've become. 235 00:17:22,666 --> 00:17:26,836 It seems to me that we're entitled to know about our food-- 236 00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:29,881 "Who owns it? How are they making it? 237 00:17:29,923 --> 00:17:31,799 Can I have a look in the kitchen?" 238 00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:38,598 When I wanted to understand the industrial food system, 239 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,476 what I set about doing was very simple. 240 00:17:41,518 --> 00:17:43,436 I wanted to trace the source of my food. 241 00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:47,440 When you go through the supermarket, 242 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:51,611 what looks like this cornucopia of variety and choice is not. 243 00:17:51,653 --> 00:17:53,279 There is an illusion of diversity. 244 00:17:53,322 --> 00:17:55,364 There are only a few companies involved 245 00:17:55,407 --> 00:17:56,908 and there're only a few crops involved. 246 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:01,037 What really surprised me most 247 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,748 as I followed that food back to its source, 248 00:18:03,791 --> 00:18:05,917 I kept ending up in the same place, 249 00:18:05,959 --> 00:18:08,002 and that was a cornfield in Iowa. 250 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:11,547 So much of our industrial food 251 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:15,051 turns out to be clever rearrangements of corn. 252 00:18:21,725 --> 00:18:24,352 Corn has conquered the world in a lot of ways. 253 00:18:25,729 --> 00:18:28,189 It is a remarkable plant. 254 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:31,067 100 years ago, a farmer in America 255 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:34,278 could grow maybe 20 bushels of corn on an acre. 256 00:18:34,321 --> 00:18:37,824 Today, 200 bushels is no problem. 257 00:18:37,866 --> 00:18:40,368 That's an astonishing achievement 258 00:18:40,410 --> 00:18:42,370 for which breeders deserve credit, 259 00:18:42,412 --> 00:18:44,872 for which fertilizer makers deserve credit, 260 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:47,500 for which pesticide makers all deserve credit. 261 00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,633 In the United States today, 262 00:18:55,676 --> 00:18:58,761 30% of our land base is being planted to corn. 263 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:03,766 That's largely driven by government policy, 264 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:05,768 government policy that, in effect, 265 00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:09,272 allows us to produce corn below the cost of production. 266 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:13,484 The truth of the matter is we're paid to overproduce, 267 00:19:13,527 --> 00:19:15,486 and it was caused by 268 00:19:15,529 --> 00:19:17,655 these large multinational interests. 269 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:20,950 The reason our government's promoting corn-- 270 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:24,996 the Cargills, the ADMs, Tyson, Smithfield-- 271 00:19:25,038 --> 00:19:27,957 they have an interest in purchasing corn below the cost of production. 272 00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:33,796 They use that interest and that extensive amount of money they have 273 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,341 to lobby Congress to give us the kind of farm bills we now have. 274 00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:39,760 A "farm bill," 275 00:19:39,803 --> 00:19:41,679 which should really be called a "food bill," 276 00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:45,516 codifies the rules of the entire food economy. 277 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,728 Farm policy is always focused on these commodity crops 278 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:51,606 because you can store them. 279 00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:56,819 We encourage farmers to grow as much corn as they can grow, 280 00:19:56,862 --> 00:20:00,198 to get big, to consolidate. 281 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,201 We subsidize farmers by the bushel. 282 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,121 We produced a lot of corn 283 00:20:07,164 --> 00:20:09,165 and they came up with uses for it. 284 00:20:11,668 --> 00:20:15,338 We are now engineering our foods. 285 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,340 We know where to turn to for certain traits 286 00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:19,217 like mouth feel and flavor. 287 00:20:19,259 --> 00:20:21,344 And we bring all of these pieces together 288 00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:24,263 and engineer new foods 289 00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:26,599 that don't stale in the refrigerator, 290 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:29,018 don't develop rancidity. 291 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:32,647 Of course the biggest advance in recent years 292 00:20:32,689 --> 00:20:34,273 was high-fructose corn syrup. 293 00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:37,360 You know, I would venture to guess 294 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,862 if you go and look on the supermarket shelf, 295 00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:41,864 I'll bet you 90% of them 296 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:44,867 would contain either a corn or soybean ingredient, 297 00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:47,370 and most of the time will contain both. 298 00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:06,555 Corn is the great raw material. 299 00:21:06,598 --> 00:21:09,517 You get that big fat kernel of starch 300 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:12,103 and you can break that down and reassemble it. 301 00:21:12,145 --> 00:21:14,105 You can make high-fructose corn syrup. 302 00:21:14,147 --> 00:21:15,731 You can make maltodextrin 303 00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:18,567 and diglycerides and xanthan gum 304 00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,569 and ascorbic acid. 305 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:23,072 All those obscure ingredients on the processed food-- 306 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:26,242 it's remarkable how many of them can be made from corn. 307 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,202 Plus, you can feed it to animals. 308 00:21:28,245 --> 00:21:32,623 Corn is the main component in feed ingredients 309 00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:36,794 whether it's chicken, hogs, cattle-- you name it. 310 00:21:36,837 --> 00:21:39,046 Increasingly, we're feeding the corn to the fish 311 00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:41,757 whether we're eating the tilapia or the farmed salmon. 312 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,801 We're teaching fish how to eat corn. 313 00:21:47,764 --> 00:21:50,433 The fact that we had so much cheap corn 314 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:54,729 really allowed us to drive down the price of meat. 315 00:21:54,771 --> 00:21:57,815 I mean, the average American is eating over 200 lbs 316 00:21:57,858 --> 00:22:00,109 of meat per person per year. 317 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,111 That wouldn't be possible 318 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,155 had we not fed them this diet of cheap grain. 319 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,329 Since you're selling corn at below the price of production, 320 00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:14,874 the feedlot operator can buy corn 321 00:22:14,916 --> 00:22:16,876 at a fraction of what it costs to grow, 322 00:22:16,918 --> 00:22:20,129 so that all the animals are sucked off 323 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,173 of all the farms in the Midwest. 324 00:22:25,218 --> 00:22:27,386 There is a spiderweb 325 00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:30,014 of roads and train tracks 326 00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:32,224 all around the country moving corn 327 00:22:32,267 --> 00:22:34,894 from where it's being grown to these CAFOs. 328 00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:44,487 Cows are not designed by evolution to eat corn. 329 00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,947 They're designed by evolution to eat grass. 330 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:49,700 And the only reason we feed them corn 331 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:51,327 is because corn is really cheap 332 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,621 and corn makes them fat quickly. 333 00:23:04,424 --> 00:23:06,175 Where are you putting your hand? 334 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,595 I'm actually inside the rumen-- 335 00:23:09,638 --> 00:23:12,390 that first compartment of the stomach. 336 00:23:14,267 --> 00:23:16,227 And it's-- 337 00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:18,229 it's not-- 338 00:23:18,271 --> 00:23:20,147 it's kind of hard to see. 339 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:23,192 You can see the liquid part here. 340 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:25,778 Wow. 341 00:23:25,821 --> 00:23:27,863 - Does that hurt the cow? - No. 342 00:23:29,157 --> 00:23:30,950 There's microorganisms-- 343 00:23:30,992 --> 00:23:33,244 bacteria in the rumen, millions of 'em. 344 00:23:33,286 --> 00:23:35,955 The animals evolved 345 00:23:35,997 --> 00:23:38,457 on consuming grass. 346 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,459 There's some research that indicates 347 00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:43,712 that a high-corn diet results in 348 00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:47,591 E. coli that are acid-resistant. 349 00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:50,928 And these would be the more harmful E. coli. 350 00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:57,643 So you feed corn to cattle 351 00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,730 and E. coli, which is a very common bug, evolves, 352 00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:05,067 a certain mutation occurs 353 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:09,238 and a strain called the "E. coli 0157:h7" 354 00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:12,074 appears on the world stage. 355 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:15,744 And it's a product of the diet we're feeding cattle on feedlots 356 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,122 and it's a product of feedlot life. 357 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:22,084 The animals stand ankle deep 358 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:25,296 in their manure all day long. 359 00:24:25,338 --> 00:24:27,298 So if one cow has it, 360 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:28,883 the other cows will get it. 361 00:24:30,635 --> 00:24:32,595 When they get to the slaughterhouse, 362 00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:34,930 their hides are caked with manure. 363 00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,308 And if the slaughterhouse is slaughtering 364 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:39,018 400 animals an hour, 365 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:41,687 how do you keep that manure 366 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:43,647 from getting onto those carcasses? 367 00:24:43,690 --> 00:24:46,484 And that's how the manure gets in the meat. 368 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,862 And now this thing that wasn't in the world 369 00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:51,489 is in the food system. 370 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:04,835 A fast-food nightmare may be getting worse. 371 00:25:04,878 --> 00:25:06,879 A two-year-old child died today in Seattle. 372 00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:10,216 And the killer? Tainted meat from Jack In The Box hamburgers. 373 00:25:10,258 --> 00:25:11,842 A nationwide recall today 374 00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:14,470 for more than 140 tons of ground beef. 375 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,805 A half a million pounds of ground beef-- 376 00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:20,059 Today, nationwide recalls of Con Agra ground beef. 377 00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:23,145 E. coli isn't just in ground beef now-- 378 00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:25,981 it's been found in spinach, apple juice-- 379 00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:30,819 and this is really because of the runoff from our factory farms. 380 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:33,489 90 confirmed cases of E. coli poisoning. 381 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,824 Central to it all-- raw, bagged spinach. 382 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:38,661 This is the 20th E. coli outbreak with leafy greens 383 00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:40,329 in just the last decade. 384 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,998 For years during the Bush administration, 385 00:25:43,041 --> 00:25:45,042 the chief of staff at the USDA 386 00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:47,503 was the former chief lobbyist 387 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,547 to the beef industry in Washington; 388 00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:53,676 the head of the F.D.A. was the former executive vice president 389 00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:56,679 of the National Food Processors Association. 390 00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:58,597 These regulatory agencies 391 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,933 are being controlled by the very companies 392 00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,685 that they're supposed to be scrutinizing. 393 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:05,354 ConAgra, which recently recalled peanut butter 394 00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:07,106 contaminated with salmonella, 395 00:26:07,148 --> 00:26:10,317 was aware of problems in its plant two years ago. 396 00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:23,330 There's always been food poisoning. 397 00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:25,958 As more and more technology 398 00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:28,002 is being applied to the production of food, 399 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:30,004 you would think it would be getting safer, 400 00:26:30,046 --> 00:26:31,547 not more contaminated. 401 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:34,508 But the processing plants have gotten bigger and bigger. 402 00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:38,512 it's just perfect for taking bad pathogens 403 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:40,806 and spreading them far and wide. 404 00:26:40,849 --> 00:26:43,684 The recall of frozen hamburger now includes 405 00:26:43,727 --> 00:26:45,394 22 million pounds. 406 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,938 Enough meat to make a fast-food hamburger 407 00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:51,609 for every adult in America is being recalled. 408 00:26:51,651 --> 00:26:53,611 In the 1970s, there were literally thousands 409 00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:56,113 of slaughterhouses in the United States. 410 00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:59,033 Today we have 13 slaughterhouses 411 00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:02,202 that process the majority of beef 412 00:27:02,245 --> 00:27:04,413 that is sold in the United States. 413 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,540 The hamburger of today, 414 00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:10,419 it has pieces of thousands of different cattle 415 00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:12,713 ground up in that one hamburger patty. 416 00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:17,134 The odds increase exponentially that one of those animals 417 00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,803 was carrying a dangerous pathogen. 418 00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:23,349 It's remarkable how toothless 419 00:27:23,391 --> 00:27:27,227 our regulatory agencies are when you look closely at it, 420 00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:29,146 and that's how the industry wants it. 421 00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:42,117 This is the USDA building up here. 422 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,579 Did Josh say how much time he thought we'd get? 423 00:27:45,622 --> 00:27:47,289 - Five minutes. - Five minutes. 424 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:50,709 Well, maybe as much as 15. Got to be on time for that meeting. 425 00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:52,920 - It starts a 4:00. - Okay. 426 00:27:52,962 --> 00:27:55,798 So if I start going like that 427 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,176 - or start shuffling papers, it's time. - I know, it's time. 428 00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:02,054 Thank you! Thank you. 429 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,684 I'm a registered Republican. 430 00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:09,436 I've always been fairly conservative. 431 00:28:09,479 --> 00:28:12,272 I never thought I would be doing this 432 00:28:12,315 --> 00:28:14,274 and I certainly never thought I would be 433 00:28:14,317 --> 00:28:16,276 working so closely with my mom. 434 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:18,404 - We go this way? Okay. - Yes, we go this way. 435 00:28:18,446 --> 00:28:21,073 Made a mistake-- I think that's the way we want to go. 436 00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:23,826 My mom and I, our relationship has 437 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:26,453 taken on a whole new dimension. 438 00:28:26,496 --> 00:28:28,872 2421? 2421. 439 00:28:28,915 --> 00:28:30,666 Here we are. 440 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,549 - Hi. - Hello. 441 00:28:38,591 --> 00:28:40,634 - How are you? - I'm Pat. 442 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:42,803 - Hi, Pat. - Barb Kowalcyk. 443 00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:46,223 - Hi, Barb. - After the first big push 444 00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:50,102 to establish food standards, people just got complacent. 445 00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:53,397 We reduced funding for the FDA. 446 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,649 We've relied increasingly 447 00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:58,485 on self-policing for all of these industries. 448 00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:01,572 And now we just have, really, 449 00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:05,033 lost our system. 450 00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:08,495 You're really one of the champions on the hill 451 00:29:08,538 --> 00:29:10,664 for food safety and it's a very important cause. 452 00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:14,501 It's very personal to me and my family. 453 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:18,672 Our food safety advocacy work started six years ago 454 00:29:18,715 --> 00:29:21,508 when my two-and- a-half-year-old son Kevin 455 00:29:21,551 --> 00:29:25,596 was stricken with E. coli 0157:h7 456 00:29:25,638 --> 00:29:28,974 and went from being a perfectly healthy 457 00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:31,101 beautiful little boy-- 458 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,437 and I have a small picture with me today 459 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,315 that was taken two weeks before he got sick. 460 00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:40,068 He went from that to being dead in 12 days. 461 00:29:44,824 --> 00:29:46,909 In July 2001, 462 00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:49,286 our family took a vacation. 463 00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:51,997 Had we known what was in store for us, 464 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,916 we would have never gone home. 465 00:29:56,252 --> 00:30:00,214 We ended up eating three hamburgers before he got sick. 466 00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:05,886 We started to see blood in Kevin's diarrhea, 467 00:30:05,929 --> 00:30:09,223 so we took him to the emergency room. 468 00:30:09,265 --> 00:30:11,600 And they said, "We've gotten 469 00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:14,603 the culture back from Kevin's stool, 470 00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:17,898 and he has hemorrhagic E. coli." 471 00:30:20,276 --> 00:30:22,569 They came in and informed us 472 00:30:22,612 --> 00:30:24,905 that Kevin's kidneys were starting to fail. 473 00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:29,618 Kevin received his first dialysis treatment. 474 00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:34,164 He was not allowed to really drink water. 475 00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,459 We had these little sponges 476 00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:40,671 and we were allowed to dip that into a cup of water 477 00:30:40,713 --> 00:30:42,923 and then give him that. 478 00:30:45,802 --> 00:30:50,556 He bit the head off of one of them. 479 00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:53,475 You've never seen someone beg. 480 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:57,187 He begged for water. It was all he could talk about. 481 00:30:57,230 --> 00:31:00,607 They wouldn't let anybody bring any beverage into the room 482 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:03,735 because-- I mean, it was all he would talk about, 483 00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:06,822 was... water. 484 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:13,620 I don't know if he knew what was happening to him... 485 00:31:16,124 --> 00:31:18,208 and I hope-- I don't know. 486 00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:22,754 To watch this beautiful child go 487 00:31:22,797 --> 00:31:26,049 from being perfectly healthy to dead in 12 days-- 488 00:31:26,092 --> 00:31:28,302 it was just unbelievable 489 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:32,306 that this could happen from eating food. 490 00:31:33,516 --> 00:31:36,727 What was kind of adding more insult to injury-- 491 00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:39,229 it took us almost two or three years 492 00:31:39,272 --> 00:31:40,981 and hiring a private attorney 493 00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:43,150 to actually find out that we matched a meat recall. 494 00:31:43,192 --> 00:31:46,653 On August 1st, my son was already in the hospital. 495 00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:50,115 They did an E. coli test at the plant that was positive. 496 00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:52,034 They didn't end up recalling that meat 497 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:54,953 until August 27th, 498 00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:57,497 16 days after he died. 499 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:00,542 If we have some more hearings-- which I'm sure we will-- 500 00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:02,669 I'd love to have you come and testify. 501 00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:05,714 - Keep fighting. - Thank you. You too. 502 00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:08,216 You never get over the death of your child. 503 00:32:08,259 --> 00:32:11,678 You find a new normal. 504 00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:13,263 - This way? - Yes. 505 00:32:13,306 --> 00:32:15,474 - We're going this way? - Mm-hmm. 506 00:32:15,516 --> 00:32:17,267 We put faith in our government 507 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,811 to protect us, 508 00:32:19,854 --> 00:32:22,189 and we're not being protected 509 00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:24,066 at a most basic level. 510 00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:31,365 In 1998, the USDA implemented microbial testing 511 00:32:31,407 --> 00:32:35,285 for salmonella and E. coli 0157:h7. 512 00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:42,209 The idea was that if a plant repeatedly failed these tests, 513 00:32:42,251 --> 00:32:43,961 that the USDA would shut the plant down 514 00:32:44,003 --> 00:32:47,297 because they obviously had an ongoing contamination problem. 515 00:32:48,716 --> 00:32:50,550 The meat and poultry associations 516 00:32:50,593 --> 00:32:52,844 immediately took the USDA to court. 517 00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:56,098 The courts basically said 518 00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:58,016 the USDA didn't have the authority 519 00:32:58,059 --> 00:33:00,060 to shut down the plants. 520 00:33:00,103 --> 00:33:02,062 What it meant was that 521 00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:05,315 you could have a pound of meat or poultry products 522 00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:08,777 that is a petri dish of salmonella 523 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,780 and the USDA really can't do anything about it. 524 00:33:15,034 --> 00:33:18,286 A new law was introduced in direct response 525 00:33:18,329 --> 00:33:21,581 and this law became known as Kevin's Law. 526 00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:37,931 It seems like such a clear-cut, common sense type thing. 527 00:33:37,974 --> 00:33:39,933 - How are things going? - Fine fine. 528 00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,685 We've been working for six years 529 00:33:41,728 --> 00:33:43,770 and it still hasn't passed. 530 00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:46,189 I sense that there may be 531 00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:48,483 an opportunity-- an enhanced opportunity-- 532 00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:50,444 to get this signed into law this time. 533 00:33:50,486 --> 00:33:53,113 I think that from the standpoint of the consumer, 534 00:33:53,156 --> 00:33:55,407 a lot of people would support the idea 535 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:58,452 of paying a little more if they could be guaranteed 536 00:33:58,494 --> 00:34:01,038 a higher standard of safety. 537 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,248 - Yeah. - But I also know 538 00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:04,916 that there are other players 539 00:34:04,959 --> 00:34:07,794 - in the food production chain... - We know. 540 00:34:07,837 --> 00:34:10,255 ...that tend to worry about that, 541 00:34:10,298 --> 00:34:13,008 because it's gonna be seen as an add-on to their costs. 542 00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:15,343 I think the advantage here is-- 543 00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:17,471 Sometimes it does feel like 544 00:34:17,513 --> 00:34:20,640 industry was more protected than my son. 545 00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:24,770 That's what motivated me to become an advocate. 546 00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:27,189 In the past year alone, there have been 547 00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:29,191 a multitude of food-borne illness outbreaks 548 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,651 which have resulted in significant losses. 549 00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:33,820 Clearly our current approach 550 00:34:33,863 --> 00:34:35,572 to food oversight and protection 551 00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:38,075 is not meeting the needs of American families. 552 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,917 It's really hard for me to tell Kevin's story. 553 00:34:49,962 --> 00:34:51,922 But the only way I'm going to be able 554 00:34:51,964 --> 00:34:53,799 to prevent it from happening to other people 555 00:34:53,841 --> 00:34:57,677 is to go out there and speak about it. 556 00:35:01,724 --> 00:35:03,475 Yeah. 557 00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:10,857 Six are elementary school students, one is a sibling, 558 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:12,692 and there's another one in another county 559 00:35:12,735 --> 00:35:14,402 in Kentucky, so... 560 00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:20,700 It will be seven years 561 00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:23,078 since my son died. 562 00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:26,998 All I wanted the company to do 563 00:35:27,041 --> 00:35:28,959 was say "We're sorry. 564 00:35:29,001 --> 00:35:31,044 We produced this defective product 565 00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:33,296 that killed your child, and this is what 566 00:35:33,339 --> 00:35:36,091 we're going to do to make sure it doesn't happen again." 567 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:38,760 That's all we wanted, 568 00:35:38,803 --> 00:35:40,971 and they couldn't give us that. 569 00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:53,525 The industrial food system is always looking 570 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:56,820 for greater efficiency, but each new step in efficiency 571 00:35:56,863 --> 00:35:59,072 leads to problems. 572 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:02,868 If you take feedlot cattle off of their corn diet, 573 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:04,911 give them grass for five days, 574 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:07,831 they will shed 80% of the E. coli in their gut. 575 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:09,708 But of course that's not what the industry does. 576 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:11,168 The industry's approach is-- 577 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,587 when it has a systematic problem like that-- 578 00:36:13,629 --> 00:36:16,673 is not to go back and see what's wrong with the system, 579 00:36:16,716 --> 00:36:20,135 it's to come up some high-tech fixes that allow the system to survive. 580 00:36:29,812 --> 00:36:31,730 The 5x5 product surge tank-- 581 00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:33,732 low level. Low level. 582 00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:38,236 This is our operations center. 583 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:40,488 We control all of our plants from here. 584 00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:42,449 Where's Chicago? Here's Chicago, 585 00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:44,951 Georgia, Utah, Kansas, 586 00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:48,371 Nebraska, Texas, L.A., Ohio. 587 00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:52,459 We control all levels of the gearboxes, 588 00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:54,127 the speed of motors-- 589 00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:56,213 we can change those all from here. 590 00:37:04,388 --> 00:37:06,348 We built something that-- 591 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:08,183 from a food-safety standpoint, 592 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:10,477 we think we're ahead of everybody. 593 00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:13,980 We think we can lessen the incidents 594 00:37:14,023 --> 00:37:16,358 of E. coli 0157:h7. 595 00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:20,487 But I just started working with ammonia 596 00:37:20,529 --> 00:37:22,239 and ammonia hydroxide. 597 00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:25,992 Ammonia kills bacteria, 598 00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:29,162 so it became a processing tool. 599 00:37:41,175 --> 00:37:43,009 I'm really a mechanic. 600 00:37:43,052 --> 00:37:44,886 That's really what I am. 601 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:47,514 We design our own machinery. 602 00:38:11,497 --> 00:38:13,498 This is our finished product. 603 00:38:24,593 --> 00:38:27,304 Is your meat in most of the hamburgers in the country? 604 00:38:27,346 --> 00:38:29,306 70%. 605 00:38:29,348 --> 00:38:32,934 In five years, we think we'll be in 100%. 606 00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:34,936 We do have some competitors. 607 00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:37,230 I think we're gonna beat them. 608 00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:40,608 Again, it's a marriage 609 00:38:40,651 --> 00:38:42,569 of science and technology. 610 00:38:57,793 --> 00:39:00,545 I want dollar meal-- 611 00:39:00,588 --> 00:39:04,174 - five rodeo cheeseburgers... - Five rodeos. Okay. 612 00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:06,426 ...two chicken sandwich. 613 00:39:06,469 --> 00:39:08,345 - Anything else? - Two small drinks, 614 00:39:08,387 --> 00:39:10,597 and give me a large Dr. Pepper. 615 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:12,724 - $11.48. - Thank you. 616 00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:14,768 First window. Thank you. 617 00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:21,441 We didn't even think about healthy eating 618 00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,526 because we used to think everything was healthy. 619 00:39:23,569 --> 00:39:25,737 - Here you go. - Thank you. 620 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:27,989 - Have a nice day. - You too. Thank you very much. 621 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,368 Now that I know that the food is 622 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,370 really unhealthy for us, 623 00:39:33,412 --> 00:39:36,539 I feel guilty giving it to my kids. 624 00:39:36,582 --> 00:39:40,251 But we don't have time to cook because we leave at 6:00. 625 00:39:40,294 --> 00:39:43,671 We don't get home until 9:00, 10:00 at night. 626 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,758 When you have only a dollar to spend 627 00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:48,760 and you have two kids to feed, 628 00:39:48,803 --> 00:39:51,012 either you go to the market 629 00:39:51,055 --> 00:39:52,889 and try to find something that's cheap 630 00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:54,933 or just go straight through a drive-thru 631 00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:57,268 and get two small hamburgers for them 632 00:39:57,311 --> 00:39:59,229 and "Okay, here. Eat them." 633 00:39:59,271 --> 00:40:01,189 This is what's gonna fill her up, 634 00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:04,067 not that one single item at the market. 635 00:40:10,032 --> 00:40:11,699 Look at the broccoli. 636 00:40:11,742 --> 00:40:13,660 It's too expensive, man. 637 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:19,958 - What do you want to eat then? - Mama. 638 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,253 First check to see how many are there for a pound. 639 00:40:28,384 --> 00:40:30,301 - Uh, we're not getting it. - Why not? 640 00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:32,011 You'd only get two or three. 641 00:40:32,054 --> 00:40:35,056 - No. Come on. - Aww! 642 00:40:40,354 --> 00:40:43,231 We can find candy that's cheaper. 643 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:45,191 We can find chips that are cheaper. 644 00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:47,110 The sodas are really cheap. 645 00:40:47,153 --> 00:40:49,237 Sometimes you look at a vegetable and say 646 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,781 "Okay, we can get two hamburgers over here 647 00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:53,324 for the same amount of price." 648 00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:56,494 Why is it that you can buy 649 00:40:56,537 --> 00:40:58,955 a double-cheeseburger at McDonald's for 99¢, 650 00:40:58,998 --> 00:41:01,916 and you can't even get a head of broccoli for 99¢? 651 00:41:01,959 --> 00:41:04,794 - You want the small one? - We've skewed our food system 652 00:41:04,837 --> 00:41:06,880 to the bad calories 653 00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:09,674 and it's not an accident. 654 00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:13,303 I mean, the reasons that those calories are cheaper is 655 00:41:13,345 --> 00:41:15,972 because those are the ones we're heavily subsidizing. 656 00:41:18,684 --> 00:41:21,019 And this is directly tied to the kind of agriculture 657 00:41:21,061 --> 00:41:22,520 that we're practicing 658 00:41:22,563 --> 00:41:24,647 and the kind of farm policies we have. 659 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,941 All those snack-food calories are 660 00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:29,611 the ones that come from the commodity crops-- 661 00:41:29,653 --> 00:41:31,446 from the wheat, from the corn 662 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,156 and from the soybeans. 663 00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:35,575 By making those calories really cheap, 664 00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:38,453 that's one of the reasons that the biggest predictor 665 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,121 of obesity is income level. 666 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:42,457 Over the course of human history, 667 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,292 we were struggling to make sure we had 668 00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:46,461 enough food and enough calories 669 00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,838 for a sizable percentage of the human race. 670 00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,882 Now the problem is too many calories. 671 00:41:50,925 --> 00:41:53,510 The industry blames obesity 672 00:41:53,552 --> 00:41:55,637 on a crisis of personal responsibility. 673 00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,264 But when you're engineering foods 674 00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:00,975 you are pressing our evolutionary buttons. 675 00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:03,686 The fact is we're hardwired 676 00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:06,064 to go for three tastes-- 677 00:42:06,106 --> 00:42:08,816 salt, fat and sugar. 678 00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:10,652 These things are very rare in nature 679 00:42:10,694 --> 00:42:13,571 Now sugar is available 24/7 680 00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:15,323 in tremendous quantities. 681 00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,493 We're eating hundreds of pounds of the stuff a year. 682 00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:20,662 This diet of high-fructose corn syrup 683 00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:22,455 and refined carbohydrates 684 00:42:22,498 --> 00:42:24,499 leads to these spikes of insulin 685 00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:27,627 and, gradually, a wearing down of the system 686 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:29,963 by which our body metabolizes sugar. 687 00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:37,470 My husband's diabetic. 688 00:42:37,513 --> 00:42:39,597 One of my main concerns is 689 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,849 he could lose his sight. 690 00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:46,271 He does get into-- sometimes he's shaking, 691 00:42:46,313 --> 00:42:49,649 so I'm afraid that he's gonna start not being able to drive, 692 00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,818 'cause that's what he does for a profession. 693 00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:54,737 We have to consider his medicine. 694 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:56,739 What is it, $70? 695 00:42:56,782 --> 00:42:59,701 50 pills costs me about $130. 696 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:01,452 But he's on two different types of pills. 697 00:43:01,495 --> 00:43:03,162 $100-and-something for one pill 698 00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:05,123 and then $100- and-something for another. 699 00:43:05,165 --> 00:43:07,166 That takes a lot of our income away. 700 00:43:07,209 --> 00:43:10,420 We're really tight from either 701 00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:12,547 paying for his medicine to be healthy 702 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:16,217 or buying vegetables to be healthy. 703 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,344 So which one should we do? 704 00:43:20,723 --> 00:43:23,641 It's hard to see my dad suffer with diabetes 705 00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:25,143 and stuff like that. 706 00:43:25,185 --> 00:43:28,271 And it's really sad to see that my sister might have it. 707 00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:30,356 There's something that's going on 708 00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:32,483 in the way that we live our lives, 709 00:43:32,526 --> 00:43:34,569 where we play, where we buy our food 710 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:36,487 and the types of food that we're able to buy 711 00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:38,990 that is causing this epidemic. 712 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:40,700 It's not just our community. 713 00:43:40,743 --> 00:43:42,577 It's not just Baldwin Park. It's everywhere. 714 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:44,829 How many of us know one person 715 00:43:44,872 --> 00:43:46,873 in our family with diabetes? 716 00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:51,002 How about two? 717 00:43:51,045 --> 00:43:53,671 Three? Keep your hand-- 718 00:43:53,714 --> 00:43:56,215 It used to be that type 2 diabetes 719 00:43:56,258 --> 00:43:58,092 only affected adults. 720 00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:01,721 And now it's affecting children at epidemic proportions. 721 00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:59,320 Everything we've done 722 00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:01,114 in modern industrial agriculture 723 00:45:01,156 --> 00:45:04,784 is to grow it faster, fatter, bigger, cheaper. 724 00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:08,621 Nobody's thinking about E. coli, 725 00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:11,916 type 2 diabetes and the ecological health 726 00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:14,085 of the whole system. 727 00:45:14,128 --> 00:45:16,504 We're outsourcing 728 00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:20,383 autonomous farmer decision making-- 729 00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,510 we're outsourcing that to corporate boardrooms 730 00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:25,805 in big cities 1,000 miles away 731 00:45:25,848 --> 00:45:27,849 where people make decisions and don't live 732 00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:30,268 with the consequences of those decisions. 733 00:45:49,246 --> 00:45:51,289 Everything is grass based. 734 00:45:51,331 --> 00:45:55,209 You know, they don't eat corn, dead cows 735 00:45:55,252 --> 00:45:58,379 or chicken manure like they feed right here in the valley-- 736 00:45:58,422 --> 00:45:59,964 or dead chickens. 737 00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:04,135 They actually eat grass, forage-- 738 00:46:04,178 --> 00:46:06,262 you know, clover, grass, herbs. 739 00:46:06,305 --> 00:46:07,847 They're herbivores. 740 00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:11,267 If they were eating corn, 741 00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:14,270 you're gonna have to harvest that corn, transport that corn, 742 00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:17,982 then you're gonna have to haul all that manure somewhere 743 00:46:18,025 --> 00:46:20,568 that comes out the back end. 744 00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:23,529 Here... it's-- 745 00:46:23,572 --> 00:46:26,949 there-- there is the whole thing. 746 00:46:26,992 --> 00:46:29,702 I mean the cow is-- she's fertilizing. 747 00:46:29,745 --> 00:46:31,788 She's mowing. We don't have to spread any manure. 748 00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:34,040 We don't have to harvest it-- she's harvesting it. 749 00:46:34,082 --> 00:46:37,585 It's all real time-- real solar dollars. 750 00:46:39,546 --> 00:46:41,422 The industrial food system 751 00:46:41,465 --> 00:46:44,842 gradually became so noisy, smelly, 752 00:46:44,885 --> 00:46:47,178 not a person-friendly place, 753 00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:49,639 that the people who operate those plants 754 00:46:49,681 --> 00:46:51,307 don't want anybody to go there, 755 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:53,684 because then people would see the ugly truth. 756 00:46:55,187 --> 00:46:56,854 When that occurred, 757 00:46:56,897 --> 00:46:59,315 then we lost all the integrity 758 00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:02,568 and all the accountability in the food system. 759 00:47:04,279 --> 00:47:06,030 If we put glass walls 760 00:47:06,073 --> 00:47:09,200 on all the megaprocessing facilities, 761 00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:12,328 we would have a different food system in this country. 762 00:47:42,401 --> 00:47:44,318 We have allowed ourselves 763 00:47:44,361 --> 00:47:47,321 to become so disconnected and ignorant 764 00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:51,742 about something that is as intimate... 765 00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:53,953 ...as the food that we eat. 766 00:47:55,789 --> 00:47:57,999 What a difference this is to be out here 767 00:47:58,041 --> 00:47:59,876 in the fresh air, sunshine, 768 00:47:59,918 --> 00:48:01,752 birds singing in the trees, you know? 769 00:48:01,795 --> 00:48:04,714 But you see, according to the U.S.D.A, 770 00:48:04,756 --> 00:48:06,173 this is unsanitary 771 00:48:06,216 --> 00:48:08,134 because it's open to the air. 772 00:48:08,176 --> 00:48:09,594 They tried to close us down. 773 00:48:09,636 --> 00:48:12,013 One of the biggest showdowns we had was 774 00:48:12,055 --> 00:48:13,723 when they tried to close us down 775 00:48:13,765 --> 00:48:16,058 because this was unsanitary. 776 00:48:16,101 --> 00:48:17,894 Can you imagine? 777 00:48:17,936 --> 00:48:21,480 So we had them cultured at a local microbiology lab. 778 00:48:23,650 --> 00:48:28,446 Ours averaged 133 C.F.U. 779 00:48:28,488 --> 00:48:30,823 and the ones from the store 780 00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:33,117 averaged 3600. 781 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,871 Of course, those have been through 40 trillion baths. 782 00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:39,498 Ours haven't seen any chlorine. 783 00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:43,461 A lot of people wonder "Is this real? 784 00:48:43,503 --> 00:48:45,630 I mean, can you really feed the world?" 785 00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:49,091 That whole thing is such a specious argument 786 00:48:49,134 --> 00:48:53,220 because, yes, 787 00:48:53,263 --> 00:48:54,639 we're every bit as efficient, 788 00:48:54,681 --> 00:48:57,099 especially if you plug in 789 00:48:57,142 --> 00:49:00,019 all of the inefficiencies of the industrial system. 790 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,898 I've had people come up at farmer's markets 791 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:08,277 and say "What? $3 a dozen for eggs?" 792 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,864 And they're drinking a 75¢ can of soda. 793 00:49:16,036 --> 00:49:19,372 Hey, pig. Hey, piggles. 794 00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:23,417 Hey, pigs. 795 00:49:25,087 --> 00:49:29,674 I'm always struck by how successful we have been 796 00:49:29,716 --> 00:49:32,593 at hitting the bull's-eye of the wrong target. 797 00:49:34,596 --> 00:49:36,847 I mean we have learned-- for example, 798 00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:40,226 in cattle we have learned how to-- 799 00:49:40,268 --> 00:49:43,646 how to plant, 800 00:49:43,689 --> 00:49:45,773 fertilize and harvest corn 801 00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:48,651 using global positioning satellite technology, 802 00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:52,029 and nobody sits back and asks 803 00:49:52,072 --> 00:49:54,865 "But should we be feeding cows corn?" 804 00:49:54,908 --> 00:49:58,869 We've become a culture of technicians. 805 00:49:58,912 --> 00:50:00,913 We're all into-- 806 00:50:00,956 --> 00:50:03,541 we're all into the how of it 807 00:50:03,583 --> 00:50:05,835 and nobody's stepping back 808 00:50:05,877 --> 00:50:07,753 and saying "But why?" 809 00:50:10,382 --> 00:50:12,550 I mean, a culture that just views a pig 810 00:50:12,592 --> 00:50:15,219 as a pile of protoplasmic inanimate structure 811 00:50:15,262 --> 00:50:17,888 to be manipulated by whatever creative design 812 00:50:17,931 --> 00:50:20,850 that humans can foist on that critter 813 00:50:20,892 --> 00:50:23,102 will probably view 814 00:50:23,145 --> 00:50:25,187 individuals within its community 815 00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:28,357 and other cultures in the community of nations 816 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,609 with the same type of disdain, 817 00:50:30,652 --> 00:50:32,486 disrespect 818 00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:34,905 and controlling-type mentality. 819 00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:02,975 The town where the plant is located 820 00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:05,227 is a small town called Tar Heel 821 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:08,606 in the middle of a very economically-depressed area. 822 00:51:12,235 --> 00:51:14,153 Smithfield has mastered 823 00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:16,614 the art of picking and choosing 824 00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:19,116 a workforce that they can exploit, 825 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,286 initially from the local workforce-- 826 00:51:22,329 --> 00:51:25,873 the poor whites, the poor black. 827 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:28,876 They went through that workforce very quickly. 828 00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:32,838 Now they have to bus their workers 829 00:51:32,881 --> 00:51:36,008 all the way from Dentsville, South Carolina, 830 00:51:36,051 --> 00:51:37,968 to Clinton, North Carolina. 831 00:51:38,011 --> 00:51:42,306 You have to draw a circle 100 miles in diameter, 832 00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:45,643 and that's where all of your workers are coming from. 833 00:51:53,485 --> 00:51:55,820 They have the same mentality towards workers 834 00:51:55,862 --> 00:51:57,321 as they do towards the hogs. 835 00:52:00,492 --> 00:52:04,787 You know, the hog, they don't really have to worry about their comfort 836 00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:06,914 because they're temporary. They're gonna be killed. 837 00:52:08,542 --> 00:52:11,460 And they have the same viewpoint to the worker. 838 00:52:11,503 --> 00:52:13,629 You're not worried about the longevity of the worker 839 00:52:13,672 --> 00:52:16,465 because, to them, everything has an end. 840 00:52:37,612 --> 00:52:40,406 When you've got 2000 hogs an hour going through 841 00:52:40,448 --> 00:52:43,951 employees, because they're handling these guts so much, 842 00:52:43,994 --> 00:52:46,412 they get infections in their fingernails and all. 843 00:52:46,454 --> 00:52:48,247 All their fingernails separate from their fingers. 844 00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:52,543 You're covered with blood, feces, urine. 845 00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:54,378 It's easy to get hurt down there. 846 00:52:54,421 --> 00:52:56,338 You're doing that same movement 847 00:52:56,381 --> 00:52:58,007 for that same piece of the hog 848 00:52:58,049 --> 00:53:00,176 and it's nonstop, you know. 849 00:53:00,218 --> 00:53:03,220 Basically you're treated as a human machine. 850 00:53:03,263 --> 00:53:05,806 You get people that can't afford 851 00:53:05,849 --> 00:53:07,892 to leave from out there, and Smithfield knows this. 852 00:53:07,934 --> 00:53:10,519 And that's what they hold over you. 853 00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:18,736 100 years ago 854 00:53:18,778 --> 00:53:20,863 when Upton Sinclair wrote "The Jungle" 855 00:53:20,906 --> 00:53:23,616 there was a beef trust that wielded enormous power. 856 00:53:25,368 --> 00:53:28,579 Immigrants from Eastern Europe were being abused 857 00:53:28,622 --> 00:53:31,832 in the absence of any kind of government regulation 858 00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:35,169 There were horrible disfiguring injuries 859 00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:36,837 and even deaths. 860 00:53:39,633 --> 00:53:43,177 Things got better. They slowly got better. 861 00:53:44,638 --> 00:53:47,097 Teddy Roosevelt took on the beef trust. 862 00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:51,769 Labor unions slowly organized meatpacking workers 863 00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:54,939 and turned it into one of the best industrial jobs 864 00:53:54,981 --> 00:53:56,649 in the United States. 865 00:53:57,859 --> 00:54:01,111 By the 1950s to be a meatpacking worker 866 00:54:01,154 --> 00:54:03,364 was like being an auto worker 867 00:54:03,406 --> 00:54:07,493 who has a good wage, good benefits, pension. 868 00:54:07,535 --> 00:54:10,079 And then what happened? 869 00:54:10,121 --> 00:54:12,373 Well, the meat-packing companies got bigger 870 00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:15,292 in order to serve the needs of the fast-food industry, 871 00:54:15,335 --> 00:54:17,461 which was its biggest customer. 872 00:54:17,504 --> 00:54:20,130 Some of the meat-packing companies like IBP 873 00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:22,716 borrowed the same sort of labor practices 874 00:54:22,759 --> 00:54:24,301 from the fast food industry-- 875 00:54:24,344 --> 00:54:27,471 cutting wages, making sure there were no unions, 876 00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:29,139 speeding up production, 877 00:54:29,182 --> 00:54:31,433 and having the worker do the same task 878 00:54:31,476 --> 00:54:33,644 again and again and again. 879 00:54:33,687 --> 00:54:35,938 And meat-packing is now 880 00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:38,899 one of the most dangerous jobs in the United States. 881 00:54:41,319 --> 00:54:43,320 The meat-packing industry also recruited 882 00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:45,864 a new set of immigrants-- illegal immigrants 883 00:54:45,907 --> 00:54:48,325 and recent immigrants from Mexico. 884 00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:53,330 Many of the illegal immigrants coming to America 885 00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:56,000 were corn farmers in Mexico. 886 00:54:56,042 --> 00:54:59,670 NAFTA led to a flooding of the Mexican market 887 00:54:59,713 --> 00:55:02,131 with cheap American corn. 888 00:55:02,173 --> 00:55:06,677 It's put more than a million and a half Mexican farmers out of work. 889 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,388 They couldn't compete with this cheap corn coming from America. 890 00:55:11,391 --> 00:55:14,768 So what happens to those million and a half Mexican farmers? 891 00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:17,896 Meat packers like IBP, 892 00:55:17,939 --> 00:55:19,690 National Beef and Monfort 893 00:55:19,733 --> 00:55:22,526 began actively recruiting in Mexico. 894 00:55:23,778 --> 00:55:26,113 Companies advertised on the radio 895 00:55:26,156 --> 00:55:27,573 and in newspapers. 896 00:55:27,615 --> 00:55:30,868 IBP set up a bus service 897 00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:34,038 in Mexico to bring workers into the United States. 898 00:55:36,291 --> 00:55:38,917 For years the government turned a blind eye 899 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,419 to the recruitment of immigrants 900 00:55:40,462 --> 00:55:42,254 by the meat-packing industry. 901 00:55:42,297 --> 00:55:44,882 But now, when there's an anti-immigrant movement, 902 00:55:44,924 --> 00:55:46,508 they're cracking down all of a sudden, 903 00:55:46,551 --> 00:55:48,761 but they're not cracking down on these companies. 904 00:55:48,803 --> 00:55:51,513 The government's cracking down on the workers. 905 00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:14,119 Immigration agents are arresting Smithfield workers 906 00:56:14,162 --> 00:56:17,122 at this trailer park. 907 00:56:17,165 --> 00:56:18,957 This is an agreement 908 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,251 between Smithfield and Immigrations authorities. 909 00:56:21,294 --> 00:56:23,921 They get rid of 15 workers per day, 910 00:56:23,963 --> 00:56:26,256 but you don't see any massive raids. 911 00:56:26,299 --> 00:56:28,759 That way it doesn't affect the production line. 912 00:56:41,356 --> 00:56:44,650 - Sir, we are trying-- - She asked me a question. 913 00:56:44,692 --> 00:56:46,527 She is asking us questions, not you. 914 00:56:48,822 --> 00:56:51,865 I don't see anybody arresting no Smithfield managers. 915 00:56:51,908 --> 00:56:54,159 Nobody in the plant that had anything to do 916 00:56:54,202 --> 00:56:55,828 with the fact that those workers were hired 917 00:56:55,870 --> 00:56:57,287 is being arrested. 918 00:56:57,330 --> 00:56:59,790 What we see today is workers 919 00:56:59,833 --> 00:57:01,834 who were producing for this company and working hard-- 920 00:57:01,876 --> 00:57:03,877 those are the people who get arrested. 921 00:57:20,103 --> 00:57:22,563 We want to pay the cheapest price for our food. 922 00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:25,190 We don't understand that that comes at a price. 923 00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:30,320 These workers, they've been here for 10, 15 years 924 00:57:30,363 --> 00:57:34,616 processing your bacon, your holiday ham 925 00:57:34,659 --> 00:57:37,703 and now they're getting picked up like they're criminals. 926 00:57:39,164 --> 00:57:42,249 And these companies are making billions of dollars. 927 00:58:11,112 --> 00:58:13,614 Is cheapness everything that there is? 928 00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:16,241 Who wants to buy the cheapest car? 929 00:58:16,284 --> 00:58:18,744 We're willing to subsidize 930 00:58:18,786 --> 00:58:21,580 the food system to create the "mystique" 931 00:58:21,623 --> 00:58:23,540 of cheap food, 932 00:58:23,583 --> 00:58:26,752 when actually it's very expensive food 933 00:58:26,794 --> 00:58:29,671 when you add up the environmental costs 934 00:58:29,714 --> 00:58:32,758 societal costs, health costs. 935 00:58:34,469 --> 00:58:37,429 The industrial food is not honest food. 936 00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:40,140 It's not priced honestly. It's not produced honestly. 937 00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:41,767 It's not processed honestly. 938 00:58:41,809 --> 00:58:44,811 There's nothing honest about that food. 939 00:58:46,773 --> 00:58:50,234 I can't think of a better use for a Smithfield box. 940 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,821 It was about a five-hour drive 941 00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:56,949 maybe 300, 400 miles. 942 00:58:56,991 --> 00:58:59,034 So yeah. 943 00:58:59,077 --> 00:59:00,827 It's worth it. 944 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:06,833 I have no desire to scale up or get bigger. 945 00:59:08,169 --> 00:59:11,004 My desire is to produce the best food in the world 946 00:59:11,047 --> 00:59:13,048 and heal. 947 00:59:13,091 --> 00:59:15,509 And if in doing so 948 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:20,138 more people come to our corner and want stuff, 949 00:59:20,181 --> 00:59:23,475 then heaven help me figure out how to meet the need 950 00:59:23,518 --> 00:59:25,310 without compromising the integrity. 951 00:59:25,353 --> 00:59:26,853 That-- that's where I am. 952 00:59:26,896 --> 00:59:30,732 I have absolutely no desire 953 00:59:30,775 --> 00:59:33,068 to be at Wal-Mart. 954 00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:37,698 As soon as you grasp for that growth, 955 00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:40,367 you're gonna view your customer differently, 956 00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:42,160 you're gonna view your product differently, 957 00:59:42,203 --> 00:59:44,246 you're gonna view your business differently. 958 00:59:44,289 --> 00:59:48,250 You're gonna view everything that is the most important-- 959 00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:50,085 you're gonna view that differently. 960 01:00:05,852 --> 01:00:08,061 This is our new organic line of popcorn. 961 01:00:08,104 --> 01:00:09,980 This is Vitasoy soy milk, 962 01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:11,732 the best soy milk in the entire world. 963 01:00:12,859 --> 01:00:15,444 This entire show when it first started 964 01:00:15,486 --> 01:00:17,446 was the size of this column right here. 965 01:00:17,488 --> 01:00:18,780 Uh-huh. 966 01:00:18,823 --> 01:00:20,907 Several of us were sleeping in our booths. 967 01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:22,576 We couldn't afford hotel rooms. 968 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,580 Organic's been growing over 20% annually. 969 01:00:26,623 --> 01:00:30,542 It's one of the fastest-growing segments in the food industry. 970 01:00:30,585 --> 01:00:32,044 My God! Ah! 971 01:00:32,086 --> 01:00:33,629 We're not gonna get rid of capitalism. 972 01:00:33,671 --> 01:00:35,547 Certainly we're not gonna get rid of it 973 01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:38,634 in the time that we need to arrest global warming 974 01:00:38,676 --> 01:00:40,886 and reverse the toxification 975 01:00:40,928 --> 01:00:42,929 of our air, our food and our water. 976 01:00:42,972 --> 01:00:44,848 We need to be much more urgent. 977 01:00:44,891 --> 01:00:48,393 If we attempt to make perfect the enemy of the good 978 01:00:48,436 --> 01:00:50,145 and say we're only going to buy food 979 01:00:50,188 --> 01:00:52,731 from the most-perfect system 980 01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:55,609 within 100 miles of us, we're never gonna get there. 981 01:01:00,448 --> 01:01:02,699 As an environmentalist, it was pretty clear to me 982 01:01:02,742 --> 01:01:04,868 that business was the source of all the pollution, 983 01:01:04,911 --> 01:01:07,496 business was the source of basically all the things 984 01:01:07,538 --> 01:01:09,706 that were destroying this world. 985 01:01:13,211 --> 01:01:16,254 In college I came across this little institute 986 01:01:16,297 --> 01:01:17,798 called New Alchemy Institute, 987 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,926 which was a group of renegade biologists. 988 01:01:20,968 --> 01:01:22,928 My hope is to give you-- 989 01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:26,932 We were preaching a kind of a new religion, 990 01:01:26,974 --> 01:01:30,602 trying to develop food and waste-treatment alternatives, 991 01:01:30,645 --> 01:01:32,688 but we were preaching to the convinced. 992 01:01:32,730 --> 01:01:37,025 We were depending on sources of support that were dried up 993 01:01:37,068 --> 01:01:39,111 and we weren't reaching the audience 994 01:01:39,153 --> 01:01:41,405 that really needed these messages. 995 01:01:41,447 --> 01:01:45,659 I realized we need to not be David 996 01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:48,495 up against Goliath. We need to be Goliath. 997 01:01:59,549 --> 01:02:03,260 When we started out, we were a seven-cow farm. 998 01:02:03,302 --> 01:02:07,973 We wanted to prove that business could be part of the solution 999 01:02:08,015 --> 01:02:09,933 to the globe's environmental problems. 1000 01:02:09,976 --> 01:02:11,893 At the same time we had to prove 1001 01:02:11,936 --> 01:02:13,812 that we could be highly profitable. 1002 01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:19,067 Today in 2008, not only are 1003 01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:21,778 we the in America, 1004 01:02:21,821 --> 01:02:23,822 but we're among the most profitable. 1005 01:02:34,667 --> 01:02:36,585 See, this is the interesting thing. 1006 01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:38,545 A little company like this is now Kraft, 1007 01:02:38,588 --> 01:02:40,589 but you don't have any idea that it's Kraft. 1008 01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:43,675 This is now Pepsi. That's now Kellogg's. 1009 01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:46,094 - Kashi is Kellogg's? - Yeah. 1010 01:02:46,137 --> 01:02:49,097 - This is Colgate now. - Oh, is it? 1011 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:52,476 Yeah, this is one of those companies that started like us. 1012 01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:57,272 - Well, it's-- - Make them different? 1013 01:02:57,315 --> 01:02:59,274 Make them successful, basically. 1014 01:02:59,317 --> 01:03:03,487 The jury is out. I have to put it that way. 1015 01:03:04,489 --> 01:03:07,365 These large companies don't grow organically. 1016 01:03:07,408 --> 01:03:09,701 They grow by acquisition. 1017 01:03:09,744 --> 01:03:12,329 Coke, Pepsi, Kellogg's, General Mills-- 1018 01:03:12,371 --> 01:03:13,997 all of them are running, 1019 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,082 not walking, into the organic food business. 1020 01:03:24,342 --> 01:03:27,302 For me, when a Wal-Mart enters the organic space, 1021 01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:29,888 I'm thrilled. It's absolutely one of the most exciting things. 1022 01:03:29,931 --> 01:03:32,015 I have dreamed of the day 1023 01:03:32,058 --> 01:03:34,017 when I could sit with corporate titans 1024 01:03:34,060 --> 01:03:36,186 and have conversations 1025 01:03:36,229 --> 01:03:38,188 about organics and sustainability. 1026 01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:40,899 - This is Amanda. This is Rand. - Hi Amanda. I'm Rand. 1027 01:03:40,942 --> 01:03:43,109 - Rand, nice to meet you. - Tony. 1028 01:03:43,152 --> 01:03:44,694 - Tony. Great. - Nice to meet you. 1029 01:03:44,737 --> 01:03:46,988 Okay, help me figure out where-- 1030 01:03:47,031 --> 01:03:49,407 - We both work for Wal-Mart. - You're with Wal-Mart. 1031 01:03:49,450 --> 01:03:50,575 Yup. 1032 01:03:50,618 --> 01:03:52,118 Do you know that we don't go to Wal-Mart? 1033 01:03:52,161 --> 01:03:53,995 - We've never been. - Oh yeah. 1034 01:03:54,038 --> 01:03:56,873 - Isn't that amazing? - So we had to come to you. 1035 01:03:56,916 --> 01:03:58,792 Yeah, we've never been. 1036 01:03:58,835 --> 01:04:00,502 We just started boycotting a long time ago 1037 01:04:00,545 --> 01:04:03,171 and we just kept riding on that. 1038 01:04:03,214 --> 01:04:05,882 Wal-Mart is terribly sensitive 1039 01:04:05,925 --> 01:04:07,384 to their reputation. 1040 01:04:07,426 --> 01:04:09,886 They've obviously been vilified, 1041 01:04:09,929 --> 01:04:12,013 probably more than any retailer 1042 01:04:12,056 --> 01:04:14,015 in our current economy. 1043 01:04:14,058 --> 01:04:16,393 Actually, it's a pretty easy decision 1044 01:04:16,435 --> 01:04:19,938 to try to support things like organic, or whatever it might be, 1045 01:04:19,981 --> 01:04:22,357 based on what the customer wants. 1046 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,401 We see that and react to it. 1047 01:04:24,443 --> 01:04:27,112 So if it's clear the customer wants it, 1048 01:04:27,154 --> 01:04:29,573 it's really easy to get behind it, 1049 01:04:29,615 --> 01:04:31,324 to push forward and try to make that happen. 1050 01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:35,537 When I run into my old environmental friends, 1051 01:04:35,580 --> 01:04:38,248 many are initially horrified 1052 01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:42,168 by the kinds of company that I'm keeping these days. 1053 01:04:42,211 --> 01:04:44,921 But when I then go on to explain 1054 01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:47,924 what the impact of one purchase order from Wal-Mart is, 1055 01:04:47,967 --> 01:04:51,094 in terms of not pounds but tons of pesticide, 1056 01:04:51,137 --> 01:04:53,847 tons of herbicide, tons of chemical fertilizer, 1057 01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:57,058 the discussion-- we get away from the emotion 1058 01:04:57,101 --> 01:04:59,102 and we get down to the facts. 1059 01:04:59,145 --> 01:05:02,314 This is really key, though, what you guys are doing here. 1060 01:05:06,152 --> 01:05:08,278 I have no illusions about this. 1061 01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:10,113 I don't believe that Wal-Mart has come here 1062 01:05:10,156 --> 01:05:13,158 because they've suddenly had a moral enlightenment. 1063 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,785 It's because of economics. 1064 01:05:15,828 --> 01:05:18,747 I can debate with my radical friends all day long, 1065 01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:20,999 but nobody can challenge the fact 1066 01:05:21,042 --> 01:05:23,793 that a sale of another million dollars to Wal-Mart 1067 01:05:23,836 --> 01:05:25,587 helps to save the world. 1068 01:05:34,305 --> 01:05:36,598 Back around the turn of the last century, 1069 01:05:36,641 --> 01:05:39,184 the average farmer could feed six or eight people. 1070 01:05:41,354 --> 01:05:43,813 Now the average American farmer 1071 01:05:43,856 --> 01:05:46,983 can feed 126 people, okay? 1072 01:05:47,026 --> 01:05:49,986 These are the most productive humans that have ever lived. 1073 01:05:51,864 --> 01:05:54,074 The changes down on the farm have been 1074 01:05:54,116 --> 01:05:56,451 momentous and radical but invisible to most of us, 1075 01:05:56,494 --> 01:05:58,119 'cause who knows a farmer anymore? 1076 01:05:59,163 --> 01:06:00,872 But their way of life 1077 01:06:00,915 --> 01:06:03,833 has been revolutionized. 1078 01:06:26,732 --> 01:06:28,525 10,000 years ago, 1079 01:06:28,567 --> 01:06:30,235 farmers started saving their best seeds 1080 01:06:30,277 --> 01:06:32,404 and planted again in the following year. 1081 01:06:32,446 --> 01:06:34,656 That's how seeds have been developed. 1082 01:06:34,699 --> 01:06:36,282 That's how corn was developed 1083 01:06:36,325 --> 01:06:38,702 from a useless grass for the most part 1084 01:06:38,744 --> 01:06:41,371 to the extremely productive plant it is today. 1085 01:06:42,873 --> 01:06:45,291 The idea that any corporation could own a food crop 1086 01:06:45,334 --> 01:06:48,461 is a very new idea. It wasn't until the 1980s 1087 01:06:48,504 --> 01:06:51,214 that the Supreme Court said you could patent life. 1088 01:06:51,257 --> 01:06:52,632 And that opened the floodgates-- 1089 01:06:52,675 --> 01:06:55,385 efforts to patent the most valuable parts of life, 1090 01:06:55,428 --> 01:06:57,929 which is to say the crops on which we depend. 1091 01:06:59,098 --> 01:07:01,558 Monsanto is a chemical company. 1092 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,645 They produced DDT, Agent Orange in Vietnam, 1093 01:07:05,688 --> 01:07:08,023 and then they developed a product called "Roundup." 1094 01:07:10,359 --> 01:07:14,154 We started hearing rumblings about genetically-engineered soybeans 1095 01:07:14,196 --> 01:07:16,906 that could resist the application of Roundup. 1096 01:07:16,949 --> 01:07:18,950 When the Roundup was sprayed over top of it, 1097 01:07:18,993 --> 01:07:20,368 it killed every weed out there 1098 01:07:20,411 --> 01:07:22,662 except for this Roundup Ready soybean. 1099 01:07:39,555 --> 01:07:41,973 I can remember when the first prohibition 1100 01:07:42,016 --> 01:07:44,184 against seed saving came into being. 1101 01:07:44,226 --> 01:07:46,394 Most farmers were just 1102 01:07:46,437 --> 01:07:50,023 absolutely disgusted with the whole concept. 1103 01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:52,358 It's been interesting over the course 1104 01:07:52,401 --> 01:07:54,861 of 11 years to watch us go 1105 01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:56,863 from utter contempt for the notion 1106 01:07:56,906 --> 01:07:58,907 that we can't save our own seed 1107 01:07:58,949 --> 01:08:00,742 to acceptance. 1108 01:08:00,785 --> 01:08:03,119 What happens if a farmer 1109 01:08:03,162 --> 01:08:05,371 saves the seeds? 1110 01:08:08,042 --> 01:08:10,376 Well, you know, really there's 1111 01:08:10,419 --> 01:08:12,378 only one company involved in this now 1112 01:08:12,421 --> 01:08:14,255 and that's Monsanto. 1113 01:08:17,426 --> 01:08:19,302 Monsanto is... 1114 01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:28,269 They've got a team of private investigators 1115 01:08:28,312 --> 01:08:30,146 that kind of roam the country 1116 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:32,232 and they've got a little 1-800 hotline 1117 01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:35,693 they take calls on. If they get a call 1118 01:08:35,736 --> 01:08:38,154 and somebody alleges that somebody saved seed, 1119 01:08:38,197 --> 01:08:41,533 they'll send an investigator out to look into the matter. 1120 01:08:45,913 --> 01:08:47,872 If you save your own seed, you're gonna get a call 1121 01:08:47,915 --> 01:08:49,666 from somebody from Monsanto. 1122 01:09:11,522 --> 01:09:13,940 Two men drove in my driveway 1123 01:09:13,983 --> 01:09:15,567 at 7:00, 7:30 at night, 1124 01:09:15,609 --> 01:09:17,235 presented a black card to me 1125 01:09:17,278 --> 01:09:20,405 and they never told me that they were from Monsanto. 1126 01:09:20,447 --> 01:09:23,825 They said that they had had a surveillance team, 1127 01:09:23,868 --> 01:09:25,702 caught me cleaning beans. 1128 01:09:27,872 --> 01:09:29,455 I found it necessary to get up 1129 01:09:29,498 --> 01:09:31,124 at 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning 1130 01:09:31,167 --> 01:09:35,795 before the investigators are on the road following me. 1131 01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:37,547 They were-- 1132 01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:40,508 I'm gonna say maybe ex-military or ex-police. 1133 01:09:40,551 --> 01:09:43,303 They were large and they were intimidating. 1134 01:09:43,345 --> 01:09:46,556 I don't know whether they had their surveillance team 1135 01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:50,143 or whether it was my neighbor that turned me in. I don't know. 1136 01:09:50,186 --> 01:09:52,145 Now as I turned to walk in the house, one of them said-- 1137 01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,439 I could hear in the back-- "He's guilty." 1138 01:10:23,385 --> 01:10:27,722 It's a real ingenious device designed back in the 1800s, 1139 01:10:27,765 --> 01:10:31,392 and Monsanto's gonna close all of them out. 1140 01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:40,985 So how many seed cleaners are out there 1141 01:10:41,028 --> 01:10:42,445 in the country do you think? 1142 01:10:42,488 --> 01:10:45,156 In the state of Indiana, there may be six. 1143 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,033 Maybe. I'm not aware of-- 1144 01:10:47,076 --> 01:10:50,536 - How many there used to be? - Oh my golly. Every county had three. 1145 01:10:50,579 --> 01:10:52,372 Have they all been put out of business? 1146 01:10:52,414 --> 01:10:53,915 There's nobody left. 1147 01:11:01,423 --> 01:11:04,884 When Monsanto soybeans first came on the market, 1148 01:11:04,927 --> 01:11:06,970 I just never really switched over. 1149 01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:09,764 I was getting pretty good yield 1150 01:11:09,807 --> 01:11:11,349 with the conventional soybeans I'd been using, 1151 01:11:11,392 --> 01:11:14,102 so I thought "Well, I'll just stay where I'm at." 1152 01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:23,861 My neighbors all around me are all GMOs. 1153 01:11:23,904 --> 01:11:26,823 If the pollen goes in, if the seed moves in, 1154 01:11:26,865 --> 01:11:29,534 I am still held accountable. 1155 01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:40,044 When you genetically modify a crop, you own it. 1156 01:11:40,087 --> 01:11:42,630 We've never had this in agriculture. 1157 01:11:45,134 --> 01:11:47,969 Used to be that your land-grant universities, 1158 01:11:48,012 --> 01:11:50,430 they developed what was called public seed. 1159 01:11:50,472 --> 01:11:53,016 The vast majority of the plant breeding 1160 01:11:53,058 --> 01:11:55,143 was actually done in these public institutions 1161 01:11:55,185 --> 01:11:58,062 Monsanto is very much like Microsoft. 1162 01:11:58,105 --> 01:12:00,732 The same way Microsoft owns the intellectual property 1163 01:12:00,774 --> 01:12:03,109 behind most computers in America, 1164 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:05,653 they set out to own the intellectual property 1165 01:12:05,696 --> 01:12:08,072 behind most of the food in America. 1166 01:12:08,115 --> 01:12:11,075 Public plant breeding is a thing of the past. 1167 01:12:11,118 --> 01:12:14,162 There virtually are no public seeds anymore. 1168 01:12:17,124 --> 01:12:19,167 There's only like four or five varieties 1169 01:12:19,209 --> 01:12:20,918 that I can actually plant. 1170 01:12:20,961 --> 01:12:22,754 Now I have some of the last soybeans 1171 01:12:22,796 --> 01:12:24,630 coming out of the state of Illinois-- 1172 01:12:24,673 --> 01:12:27,633 - That are not GMO. - Public variety. Public variety. 1173 01:12:27,676 --> 01:12:31,721 When it comes to the point that I can't buy any more certified seed, 1174 01:12:31,764 --> 01:12:34,557 what do I do? What are my options? 1175 01:12:38,145 --> 01:12:40,688 I acquired this list that was mailed to me. 1176 01:12:40,731 --> 01:12:44,942 The black list here is Monsanto's unauthorized growers list. 1177 01:12:44,985 --> 01:12:46,152 Wow. 1178 01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:48,654 Either farmers that have judgments against them, 1179 01:12:48,697 --> 01:12:51,032 or businesses, or else it's-- 1180 01:12:51,075 --> 01:12:53,743 or it's farmers that have not submitted their paperwork, 1181 01:12:53,786 --> 01:12:55,703 will not turn over their records. 1182 01:12:55,746 --> 01:12:57,538 For my case, that's why I'm on there-- 1183 01:12:57,581 --> 01:12:59,957 'cause I would not turn over my records. 1184 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,794 - Am I on this list? - Yes, you are. 1185 01:13:02,836 --> 01:13:04,796 Wow. 1186 01:13:04,838 --> 01:13:07,507 I see two of the farmers that I work for on here. 1187 01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:10,093 This list-- now it comes down to the point 1188 01:13:10,135 --> 01:13:12,804 where I cannot buy Monsanto products, okay? 1189 01:13:12,846 --> 01:13:14,180 Right. 1190 01:13:14,223 --> 01:13:16,682 So it's coming down to "What can I plant?" 1191 01:13:19,436 --> 01:13:22,063 Monsanto is suing me on the basis 1192 01:13:22,106 --> 01:13:25,441 that I'm encouraging the farmer to break the patent law 1193 01:13:25,484 --> 01:13:27,652 by cleaning their own seed. 1194 01:13:35,536 --> 01:13:37,662 I haven't been in a courtroom yet 1195 01:13:37,704 --> 01:13:40,748 and my bill is already $25,000. 1196 01:13:42,876 --> 01:13:44,752 People that were friends of mine 1197 01:13:44,795 --> 01:13:47,255 now are reticent to even talk with me. 1198 01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:53,177 We've been friends for 50 years, 1199 01:13:53,220 --> 01:13:55,513 and now we can hardly be seen together. 1200 01:13:55,556 --> 01:13:56,848 Right. 1201 01:14:00,894 --> 01:14:03,312 I don't think I'm really guilty, 1202 01:14:03,355 --> 01:14:06,190 but it was cheaper to pay the fine 1203 01:14:06,233 --> 01:14:08,526 than it was to try to fight it. 1204 01:14:08,569 --> 01:14:10,486 - It gnaws at you... - Sure. 1205 01:14:10,529 --> 01:14:13,030 ...because if you think you're right at something, 1206 01:14:13,073 --> 01:14:15,241 but yet you admit you're wrong. 1207 01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:25,376 Monsanto falsely accused us of violating their patent 1208 01:14:25,419 --> 01:14:27,420 and breach of contract. 1209 01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:29,547 None of it was true. 1210 01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:32,884 You go into a market, you find a dominant farmer 1211 01:14:32,926 --> 01:14:36,137 and if you can ruin them, you scare the rest of them to following the line. 1212 01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:39,474 My family spent $400,000 1213 01:14:39,516 --> 01:14:41,851 fighting the battle, pretrial. 1214 01:14:41,894 --> 01:14:43,811 And we were told it would take another million 1215 01:14:43,854 --> 01:14:45,396 to take the thing to trial. 1216 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,900 We settled out of court. 1217 01:14:48,942 --> 01:14:51,569 The way the system appeared to work to me was 1218 01:14:51,612 --> 01:14:53,696 Lady Justice had the scales 1219 01:14:53,739 --> 01:14:55,907 and you piled cash on the scales 1220 01:14:55,949 --> 01:14:58,826 and the one that piled the most cash on the scales, 1221 01:14:58,869 --> 01:15:01,370 hired the most experts and was most willing 1222 01:15:01,413 --> 01:15:04,373 to tell the biggest lies, that was the winner. 1223 01:15:04,416 --> 01:15:07,502 That seems to be how our justice system functions now. 1224 01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:09,086 It's terrible. It's terrible. 1225 01:15:09,129 --> 01:15:11,088 How can a farmer defend himself against 1226 01:15:11,131 --> 01:15:13,049 a multinational corporation like Monsanto? 1227 01:15:14,384 --> 01:15:17,011 I talked to a young man just three days ago. 1228 01:15:17,054 --> 01:15:19,055 They'd been to his farm, you know? 1229 01:15:19,097 --> 01:15:22,433 And this poor kid, he's just starting out. 1230 01:15:22,476 --> 01:15:24,852 His fiancée was there. I talked to her 1231 01:15:24,895 --> 01:15:26,938 and tried to give them the best advice I could. 1232 01:15:26,980 --> 01:15:28,856 Unfortunately the best advice I could give them was 1233 01:15:28,899 --> 01:15:33,444 "Try to get out of this thing with your skin intact. 1234 01:15:33,487 --> 01:15:35,821 Don't fight 'em. You've got to roll over 1235 01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:38,491 and give them what they want, 'cause you can't defend yourself." 1236 01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:42,620 In the case of Monsanto, their control is so dominant. 1237 01:15:42,663 --> 01:15:45,957 If you want to be in production agriculture, 1238 01:15:45,999 --> 01:15:47,959 you're gonna be in bed with Monsanto. 1239 01:15:49,294 --> 01:15:51,128 They own the soybean. 1240 01:15:51,171 --> 01:15:54,298 They are going to control that product 1241 01:15:54,341 --> 01:15:56,634 from seed to the supermarket. 1242 01:15:56,677 --> 01:15:58,844 They are, in effect, gaining control of food. 1243 01:16:15,529 --> 01:16:18,030 There has been this revolving door 1244 01:16:18,073 --> 01:16:20,741 between Monsanto's corporate offices 1245 01:16:20,784 --> 01:16:22,743 and the various regulatory 1246 01:16:22,786 --> 01:16:25,162 and judicial bodies that have made the key decisions. 1247 01:16:25,205 --> 01:16:29,458 Justice Clarence Thomas was a Monsanto attorney. 1248 01:16:29,501 --> 01:16:32,003 That wouldn't be such a big deal 1249 01:16:32,045 --> 01:16:33,671 if it weren't for one court case 1250 01:16:33,714 --> 01:16:36,424 that really decided this whole seed-saving issue. 1251 01:16:36,466 --> 01:16:39,510 Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion 1252 01:16:39,553 --> 01:16:42,179 in a case that allowed these companies 1253 01:16:42,222 --> 01:16:45,224 to prevent farmers from saving their own seed. 1254 01:16:45,267 --> 01:16:48,019 Monsanto had very close ties 1255 01:16:48,061 --> 01:16:49,854 to the Bush administration... 1256 01:16:52,024 --> 01:16:54,191 and the Clinton administration. 1257 01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:59,030 This goes to why we haven't had much political debate 1258 01:16:59,072 --> 01:17:01,866 over this radical change to our food system. 1259 01:17:07,247 --> 01:17:09,665 For the last 25 years, our government 1260 01:17:09,708 --> 01:17:12,543 has been dominated by the industries 1261 01:17:12,586 --> 01:17:14,712 that it was meant to be regulating. 1262 01:17:19,676 --> 01:17:21,927 The challenge is as soon as you have people 1263 01:17:21,970 --> 01:17:24,764 with expertise in industry, they may turn out to be very good regulators. 1264 01:17:28,769 --> 01:17:31,103 It's really about what interests they decide to represent. 1265 01:17:38,445 --> 01:17:40,696 You're talking about power-- 1266 01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:43,074 centralized power 1267 01:17:43,116 --> 01:17:44,784 and that power is being used 1268 01:17:44,826 --> 01:17:47,620 against the people who are really producing the food 1269 01:17:47,663 --> 01:17:48,913 like the farmers. 1270 01:17:48,955 --> 01:17:50,831 It's being used against the workers 1271 01:17:50,874 --> 01:17:52,416 who work for these companies 1272 01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:55,002 and it's being used against consumers 1273 01:17:55,045 --> 01:17:57,672 who are deliberately being kept in the dark 1274 01:17:57,714 --> 01:18:00,591 about what they're eating, where it comes from 1275 01:18:00,634 --> 01:18:02,259 and what it's doing to their bodies. 1276 01:18:04,721 --> 01:18:08,849 Good afternoon, Madame Chair and members. 1277 01:18:08,892 --> 01:18:12,937 SB-63 is a consumer right-to-know measure. 1278 01:18:12,979 --> 01:18:16,440 It simply requires that all foods that are cloned 1279 01:18:16,483 --> 01:18:18,734 must be labeled as cloned foods. 1280 01:18:18,777 --> 01:18:21,028 These cloned animals are 1281 01:18:21,071 --> 01:18:23,823 a fundamentally new thing. 1282 01:18:23,865 --> 01:18:26,450 But I find it incredible that the FDA 1283 01:18:26,493 --> 01:18:30,329 not only wants to allow the sale of meat from cloned animals 1284 01:18:30,372 --> 01:18:32,123 without further research, 1285 01:18:32,165 --> 01:18:34,917 but also wants to allow the sale of this meat 1286 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,836 without any labeling. 1287 01:18:36,878 --> 01:18:39,004 How many witnesses in opposition, please? 1288 01:18:39,047 --> 01:18:41,549 Noelle Cremers with California Farm Bureau. 1289 01:18:41,591 --> 01:18:43,008 And if I can point out-- 1290 01:18:43,051 --> 01:18:45,761 the reason that we are concerned with labeling 1291 01:18:45,804 --> 01:18:49,098 is it creates unnecessary fear in a consumer's mind. 1292 01:18:49,141 --> 01:18:50,808 Until the industry has an opportunity 1293 01:18:50,851 --> 01:18:52,810 to educate why we want to use this technology 1294 01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:54,353 and the value of the technology, 1295 01:18:54,396 --> 01:18:56,731 we don't feel that consumers just having 1296 01:18:56,773 --> 01:18:58,691 a warning label will help them. 1297 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,783 These companies fight tooth and nail 1298 01:19:07,826 --> 01:19:09,577 against labeling. 1299 01:19:10,662 --> 01:19:12,621 The fast food industry fought against 1300 01:19:12,664 --> 01:19:14,498 giving you the calorie information. 1301 01:19:14,541 --> 01:19:16,500 They fought against telling you 1302 01:19:16,543 --> 01:19:18,169 if there's trans fat in their food. 1303 01:19:18,211 --> 01:19:20,921 The meat packing industry for years prevented 1304 01:19:20,964 --> 01:19:23,257 country-of-origin labeling. 1305 01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:27,344 They fought not to label genetically modified foods, 1306 01:19:27,387 --> 01:19:30,848 and now 78% of the processed food in the supermarket 1307 01:19:30,891 --> 01:19:34,560 has some genetically- modified ingredient. 1308 01:19:34,603 --> 01:19:37,188 I think it's one of the most important battles 1309 01:19:37,230 --> 01:19:39,231 for consumers to fight-- 1310 01:19:39,274 --> 01:19:41,942 is the right to know what's in their food and how it was grown. 1311 01:19:43,069 --> 01:19:45,070 Not only do they not want 1312 01:19:45,113 --> 01:19:47,490 you to know what's in it, 1313 01:19:47,532 --> 01:19:49,909 they have managed to make it against the law 1314 01:19:49,951 --> 01:19:52,661 to criticize their products. 1315 01:19:54,206 --> 01:19:57,249 Can you tell me how you've changed how you eat? 1316 01:19:57,292 --> 01:19:59,251 Yeah, we-- 1317 01:19:59,294 --> 01:20:02,004 you'll probably have to talk to an attorney 1318 01:20:02,047 --> 01:20:03,422 before you would put this in there. 1319 01:20:03,465 --> 01:20:05,299 What? You can say this is-- we've stopped-- 1320 01:20:05,342 --> 01:20:07,009 I know, but-- 1321 01:20:07,052 --> 01:20:08,969 I could have the meat and poultry industry 1322 01:20:09,012 --> 01:20:10,679 coming after me and I really-- 1323 01:20:10,722 --> 01:20:13,516 Seriously? For saying-- that it's so-- 1324 01:20:13,558 --> 01:20:15,559 It depends on the context. 1325 01:20:15,602 --> 01:20:17,436 You're not saying "Someone else don't eat it." 1326 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,938 Yeah, I'm sorry, Robbie, 1327 01:20:18,980 --> 01:20:21,232 but I get asked this all the time. 1328 01:20:21,274 --> 01:20:24,318 Initially, my reaction was 1329 01:20:24,361 --> 01:20:26,612 "I don't care. Let them sue me. 1330 01:20:26,655 --> 01:20:28,781 Let them try and sue the mother 1331 01:20:28,824 --> 01:20:31,367 of a dead child and see." 1332 01:20:31,409 --> 01:20:34,370 It's pretty amazing that you can't say 1333 01:20:34,412 --> 01:20:37,289 - how you and your family have changed-- - The veggie libel laws... 1334 01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:42,336 are different. 1335 01:20:43,839 --> 01:20:47,383 The food industry has different protections 1336 01:20:47,425 --> 01:20:49,802 than other industries do. 1337 01:20:49,845 --> 01:20:53,305 We have a lot of questions about this mad cow disease. 1338 01:20:53,348 --> 01:20:56,392 If you recall the case where Oprah was sued 1339 01:20:56,434 --> 01:20:58,561 by the meat industry 1340 01:20:58,603 --> 01:21:01,230 for something she said on her show. 1341 01:21:01,273 --> 01:21:03,440 It has just stopped me cold 1342 01:21:03,483 --> 01:21:05,359 from eating another burger. 1343 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,376 - Good morning, Oprah. - Good morning, y'all. 1344 01:21:22,419 --> 01:21:24,628 Are you glad to see it's finally winding down? 1345 01:21:24,671 --> 01:21:28,132 Well, I think I can say that, right? 1346 01:21:28,174 --> 01:21:31,844 I can say that, yeah. I can see the end in sight. 1347 01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:35,306 In Colorado it's a felony 1348 01:21:35,348 --> 01:21:37,808 if you're convicted under a veggie libel law. 1349 01:21:37,851 --> 01:21:39,310 So you could go to prison 1350 01:21:39,352 --> 01:21:41,186 for criticizing the ground beef 1351 01:21:41,229 --> 01:21:43,480 that's being produced in the state of Colorado. 1352 01:21:43,523 --> 01:21:46,775 There is an effort in several farm states 1353 01:21:46,818 --> 01:21:48,777 to make it illegal to publish 1354 01:21:48,820 --> 01:21:52,448 a photo of any industrial food operation, 1355 01:21:52,490 --> 01:21:55,326 any feedlot operation. 1356 01:21:55,368 --> 01:21:57,328 At the same time, they've also gotten 1357 01:21:57,370 --> 01:22:01,707 bills passed that are called cheeseburger bills 1358 01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:03,626 that make it very very difficult 1359 01:22:03,668 --> 01:22:05,586 for you to sue them. 1360 01:22:05,629 --> 01:22:08,380 These companies have legions of attorneys 1361 01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:11,884 and they may sue even though they know they can't win 1362 01:22:11,927 --> 01:22:14,261 just to send a message. 1363 01:22:26,441 --> 01:22:29,193 We are on record for the deposition of Maurice Parr 1364 01:22:29,235 --> 01:22:31,028 in the matter of Monsanto Company 1365 01:22:31,071 --> 01:22:32,905 and Monsanto Technology versus Maurice Parr. 1366 01:22:32,948 --> 01:22:37,284 Mr. Parr, we subpoenaed your bank records 1367 01:22:37,327 --> 01:22:38,953 in this case. Do you know that? 1368 01:22:44,376 --> 01:22:46,585 I'll tell you, what really scared me the most today 1369 01:22:46,628 --> 01:22:51,256 was the fact that they have every check that I have written 1370 01:22:51,299 --> 01:22:54,093 from every bank account that I've used 1371 01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:56,595 in the last 10 years. 1372 01:22:56,638 --> 01:22:58,639 Do you own any land, Mr. Parr? 1373 01:22:58,682 --> 01:23:00,808 - Yes. - How many acres do you own? 1374 01:23:00,850 --> 01:23:01,892 Three. 1375 01:23:01,935 --> 01:23:04,103 How long have you had this Dell computer? 1376 01:23:04,145 --> 01:23:07,815 Which ones are soybean seed cleaning customers? 1377 01:23:07,857 --> 01:23:09,817 - Mr. Kaufman? - Beans only. 1378 01:23:09,859 --> 01:23:12,361 These people are not just customers, 1379 01:23:12,404 --> 01:23:14,446 they're personal friends. 1380 01:23:14,489 --> 01:23:18,075 It's extremely heart-wrenching for me 1381 01:23:18,118 --> 01:23:21,620 to know that this list is in the possession of Monsanto. 1382 01:23:21,663 --> 01:23:23,497 Harold Sinn? 1383 01:23:24,541 --> 01:23:26,542 Beans only. 1384 01:23:26,584 --> 01:23:28,544 This is the first case 1385 01:23:28,586 --> 01:23:31,505 in which a seed company is suing 1386 01:23:31,548 --> 01:23:33,507 the person who does the cleaning of the seed. 1387 01:23:33,550 --> 01:23:36,677 So if Monsanto's claims are upheld in this case, 1388 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,387 that would not only put Moe out of business, 1389 01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:41,598 but it would prohibit every grower in the country 1390 01:23:41,641 --> 01:23:44,977 from doing what Moe does as a precedent in future cases. 1391 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:47,896 Have any of these customers specifically 1392 01:23:47,939 --> 01:23:49,898 told you that they are not going to use 1393 01:23:49,941 --> 01:23:52,943 - your seed-cleaning services anymore? - Ron Merrill. 1394 01:23:52,986 --> 01:23:55,904 This essentially puts me out of business. 1395 01:23:55,947 --> 01:23:58,657 - Max Lowe. - I'm finished. 1396 01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:01,744 Jerry Kaufman. Bill Zeering. 1397 01:24:01,786 --> 01:24:04,246 Robert Duvall. 1398 01:24:21,556 --> 01:24:24,141 We've had a food system that's been dedicated 1399 01:24:24,184 --> 01:24:26,268 to the single virtue of efficiency, 1400 01:24:26,311 --> 01:24:29,813 so we grow a very small number of crops, 1401 01:24:29,856 --> 01:24:31,774 a very small number of varieties, 1402 01:24:31,816 --> 01:24:33,859 a very small number of companies. 1403 01:24:33,902 --> 01:24:36,320 And even though you achieve efficiencies, 1404 01:24:36,362 --> 01:24:38,822 the system gets more and more precarious. 1405 01:24:38,865 --> 01:24:41,033 You will have a breakdown eventually. 1406 01:24:41,076 --> 01:24:43,035 And where the breakdown comes in the system 1407 01:24:43,078 --> 01:24:44,787 we don't always know. 1408 01:24:46,706 --> 01:24:49,583 Modern production agriculture is highly dependent 1409 01:24:49,626 --> 01:24:52,628 on large amounts of petroleum. 1410 01:24:53,755 --> 01:24:55,506 Our farm, we're going to use 1411 01:24:55,548 --> 01:24:58,550 about 40,000 gallons of diesel fuel a year. 1412 01:24:58,593 --> 01:25:01,136 We eat a lot of oil without knowing it. 1413 01:25:01,179 --> 01:25:03,639 To bring a steer to slaughter, 1414 01:25:03,681 --> 01:25:05,974 it's 75 gallons of oil. 1415 01:25:06,017 --> 01:25:08,560 So what we're seeing is 1416 01:25:08,603 --> 01:25:11,146 that this highly-efficient machine 1417 01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:15,400 does not have the resilience to deal with shocks 1418 01:25:15,443 --> 01:25:18,237 such as the spike in oil prices. 1419 01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:21,782 Food prices last month were 3.9% higher 1420 01:25:21,825 --> 01:25:23,700 than they were a year ago. 1421 01:25:23,743 --> 01:25:25,702 Take corn, another basic source of food, 1422 01:25:25,745 --> 01:25:27,412 up to a 12-year high. 1423 01:25:27,455 --> 01:25:30,082 For a while, we could sell grains 1424 01:25:30,125 --> 01:25:31,708 so cheaply anywhere in the world, 1425 01:25:31,751 --> 01:25:34,837 farmers in other countries who aren't being subsidized 1426 01:25:34,879 --> 01:25:36,880 could not compete with us. 1427 01:25:36,923 --> 01:25:39,424 So their capacity to grow food 1428 01:25:39,467 --> 01:25:41,426 for themselves was compromised. 1429 01:25:41,469 --> 01:25:43,554 The world's running out of food 1430 01:25:43,596 --> 01:25:46,306 and nobody's talking about it. We have no reserves. 1431 01:25:46,349 --> 01:25:48,517 There have been protests around the world. 1432 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,062 The food crisis has already brought down one government. 1433 01:25:52,105 --> 01:25:54,606 A month doesn't go by 1434 01:25:54,649 --> 01:25:56,775 where there isn't a story in the news 1435 01:25:56,818 --> 01:25:59,111 that peels back the curtain 1436 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:00,779 on how that industrial food is made. 1437 01:26:02,490 --> 01:26:05,409 Downer cows-- too ill or lame to walk-- 1438 01:26:05,451 --> 01:26:08,370 being brutalized to get them to their feet for slaughter. 1439 01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:11,331 Millions of gallons of concentrated hog manure 1440 01:26:11,374 --> 01:26:13,959 flushing their contents downriver. 1441 01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:15,794 Government's food czar reported 1442 01:26:15,837 --> 01:26:18,046 that there are no tools in place to track 1443 01:26:18,089 --> 01:26:21,258 the origin of the latest salmonella outbreak. 1444 01:26:21,301 --> 01:26:24,761 Every time one of these stories comes out, 1445 01:26:24,804 --> 01:26:26,889 America learns a little bit more-- 1446 01:26:26,931 --> 01:26:29,892 what's going on in the kitchen where their food is being prepared. 1447 01:26:29,934 --> 01:26:34,313 And every time they turn away in revulsion 1448 01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:36,523 and start looking for alternatives. 1449 01:26:44,282 --> 01:26:46,325 The irony is that the average consumer 1450 01:26:46,367 --> 01:26:48,368 does not feel very powerful. 1451 01:26:48,411 --> 01:26:50,787 They think they are the recipients 1452 01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:53,081 of whatever industry has put out there 1453 01:26:53,124 --> 01:26:54,666 for them to consume. 1454 01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:56,543 Trust me, it's the exact opposite. 1455 01:26:57,712 --> 01:27:00,214 When we run an item past the supermarket scanner, 1456 01:27:00,256 --> 01:27:03,675 we're voting for local or not, organic or not. 1457 01:27:03,718 --> 01:27:07,137 At Wal-Mart, we made a decision about a year ago 1458 01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:10,474 to go through a process of becoming rBST-free in our milk supply. 1459 01:27:10,516 --> 01:27:12,976 We made that decision based on customer preference. 1460 01:27:13,019 --> 01:27:15,312 Individual consumers 1461 01:27:15,355 --> 01:27:17,439 changed the biggest company on earth 1462 01:27:17,482 --> 01:27:19,233 and in so doing, 1463 01:27:19,275 --> 01:27:21,860 probably put the last nail in the coffin 1464 01:27:21,903 --> 01:27:23,487 for synthetic growth hormone. 1465 01:27:25,114 --> 01:27:27,282 To eat well in this country costs more 1466 01:27:27,325 --> 01:27:30,577 than to eat badly. It will take more money 1467 01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:32,287 and some people simply don't have it. 1468 01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:33,914 And that's one of the reasons 1469 01:27:33,957 --> 01:27:35,874 that we need changes at the policy level, 1470 01:27:35,917 --> 01:27:38,877 so that the carrots are a better deal than the chips. 1471 01:27:41,005 --> 01:27:43,090 People think "These companies are so big 1472 01:27:43,132 --> 01:27:45,884 and so powerful, how are we ever going to change things?" 1473 01:27:45,927 --> 01:27:47,761 But look at the tobacco industry. 1474 01:27:47,804 --> 01:27:51,014 It had huge control over public policy 1475 01:27:51,057 --> 01:27:53,308 and that control was broken. 1476 01:27:53,351 --> 01:27:56,770 The battle against tobacco is a perfect model 1477 01:27:56,813 --> 01:28:00,315 of how an industry's irresponsible behavior 1478 01:28:00,358 --> 01:28:02,276 can be changed. 1479 01:28:04,654 --> 01:28:08,240 Imagine what it would be if, as a national policy, 1480 01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:11,410 we said we would be only successful 1481 01:28:11,452 --> 01:28:14,538 if we had fewer people going 1482 01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:17,457 to the hospital next year than last year. 1483 01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,460 How about that for success? 1484 01:28:20,503 --> 01:28:22,504 The idea then would be to have 1485 01:28:22,547 --> 01:28:24,131 such nutritionally dense 1486 01:28:24,173 --> 01:28:25,632 unadulterated food 1487 01:28:25,675 --> 01:28:29,219 that people who ate it actually felt better, 1488 01:28:29,262 --> 01:28:31,138 had more energy, 1489 01:28:31,180 --> 01:28:33,849 and weren't sick as much. 1490 01:28:33,891 --> 01:28:36,184 Now see, that's a noble goal. 1491 01:28:37,353 --> 01:28:39,604 I can't change the fact that Kevin's dead. 1492 01:28:41,441 --> 01:28:43,817 When you tell somebody you've lost a child, 1493 01:28:43,860 --> 01:28:46,236 I really don't like that look of pity 1494 01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:48,113 that comes into their eyes, 1495 01:28:48,156 --> 01:28:50,907 that they feel sorry for me. 1496 01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:53,368 I can have a pity party all by myself very well, 1497 01:28:53,411 --> 01:28:56,621 thank you. I don't need it from other people. 1498 01:28:56,664 --> 01:28:58,582 What I need them to do is listen 1499 01:28:58,624 --> 01:29:00,542 and help me effect a change. 1500 01:29:02,670 --> 01:29:04,755 You have to understand that we farmers, 1501 01:29:04,797 --> 01:29:08,800 we're gonna deliver to the marketplace what the marketplace demands. 1502 01:29:08,843 --> 01:29:11,094 If you want to buy $2 milk, 1503 01:29:11,137 --> 01:29:15,098 you're gonna get a feedlot in the backyard. It's that simple. 1504 01:29:15,141 --> 01:29:17,517 People have got to start demanding 1505 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,936 good, wholesome food of us. 1506 01:29:19,979 --> 01:29:21,605 And we'll deliver. I promise you. 1507 01:29:21,647 --> 01:29:24,524 We're very ingenious people. We'll deliver. 1508 01:29:24,567 --> 01:29:27,027 That's all I had to say. 1509 01:29:36,996 --> 01:29:42,667 ♪ When I rode that ribbon highway ♪ 1510 01:29:42,710 --> 01:29:46,546 ♪ I saw above me ♪ 1511 01:29:46,589 --> 01:29:49,841 ♪ The endless skyway ♪ 1512 01:29:49,884 --> 01:29:52,719 ♪ I saw below me ♪ 1513 01:29:52,762 --> 01:29:56,973 ♪ The golden valley ♪ 1514 01:29:57,016 --> 01:30:01,812 ♪ Well, this land was made for you and me ♪ 1515 01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:06,066 ♪ I roamed and rambled ♪ 1516 01:30:06,109 --> 01:30:09,361 ♪ I followed my footsteps ♪ 1517 01:30:09,404 --> 01:30:12,864 ♪ Through the sparkling sands of ♪ 1518 01:30:12,907 --> 01:30:16,118 ♪ Her diamond deserts ♪ 1519 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,246 ♪ And all around me ♪ 1520 01:30:19,288 --> 01:30:22,833 ♪ A voice was calling ♪ 1521 01:30:23,918 --> 01:30:28,922 ♪ It said "This land was made for you and me" ♪ 1522 01:30:28,965 --> 01:30:32,759 ♪ This land is your land ♪ 1523 01:30:32,802 --> 01:30:36,221 ♪ This land is my land ♪ 1524 01:30:36,264 --> 01:30:39,349 ♪ From California ♪ 1525 01:30:39,392 --> 01:30:42,602 ♪ To the New York island ♪ 1526 01:30:42,645 --> 01:30:45,772 ♪ From the redwood forests ♪ 1527 01:30:45,815 --> 01:30:49,276 ♪ To the Gulf Stream waters ♪ 1528 01:30:49,318 --> 01:30:54,573 ♪ Well, this land was made for you and me ♪ 1529 01:30:55,950 --> 01:30:58,618 ♪ Now the sun came shining ♪ 1530 01:30:58,661 --> 01:31:02,080 ♪ And I was strolling ♪ 1531 01:31:02,123 --> 01:31:05,292 ♪ Through wheat fields waving ♪ 1532 01:31:05,334 --> 01:31:08,670 ♪ And dust clouds rolling ♪ 1533 01:31:08,713 --> 01:31:11,798 ♪ And a voice was sounding ♪ 1534 01:31:11,841 --> 01:31:15,218 ♪ As the fog was lifting ♪ 1535 01:31:15,261 --> 01:31:21,057 ♪ It said "This land was made for you and me" ♪ 1536 01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:24,811 ♪ This land is your land ♪ 1537 01:31:24,854 --> 01:31:28,064 ♪ This land is my land ♪ 1538 01:31:28,107 --> 01:31:31,359 ♪ From California ♪ 1539 01:31:31,402 --> 01:31:34,654 ♪ To the New York islands ♪ 1540 01:31:34,697 --> 01:31:37,782 ♪ From the redwood forest ♪ 1541 01:31:37,825 --> 01:31:41,536 ♪ To the Gulf Stream waters ♪ 1542 01:31:41,579 --> 01:31:47,542 ♪ Oh, this land was made for you and me. ♪ 1543 01:31:48,099 --> 01:31:50,083 Tip for download: Open Subtitles MKV Player