1 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:15,160 Sarah: Out of the blue, this handsome, 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,840 gorgeous man appeared. 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,600 Woman: So now you're living the fairy tale. 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,280 -Man: To the happy couple. -Group: Cheers. 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Well, you know our Tommy. Can't say no to a pretty face. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Unless they're trying to tie him down. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Jane: So you need to get out of the strip club 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,920 and call me back. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,840 You can't just ignore me, Tommy! It's not funny! 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Simon: You said there were certain things 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,400 that happened in your childhood 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,240 that your parents didn't want to know about. 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,840 Do you feel that's what's happening here? 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Jane: I have tried to kill myself in the past. 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,320 I just need to know that you're not using me. 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Tommy: I wouldn't do that. 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,680 Things seem to be going much better between the two of you. 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,920 I think he may be planning to propose when we're in France. 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Mum was saying you're buying a place in the Cotswolds. 20 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,000 He's always had an excellent head for business. 21 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,880 Jane: Sorry, so the cottage is for your mother? 22 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,320 Loony bin Jane. 23 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,920 I'll just jump in the river, shall I? 24 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,480 That'll solve all of your problems, won't it, Tommy? 25 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,400 -Tommy: You're insane. -Jane: If we were married, 26 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,000 you wouldn't treat me like this. 27 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,560 But you would rather just keep stringing me along 28 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,960 as long as Tommy gets what he wants! 29 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,600 You are sick! Do you know that? 30 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Shut up! Will you shut up? 31 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,480 There's something deeply wrong with you. 32 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Man: What is it you want the police to do? 33 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Tommy: I would like someone 34 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,000 to stop us from hurting each other. 35 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,360 If you don't have somebody here soon, somebody is. 36 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,840 DCI Douglas: We're three days into a national manhunt 37 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,480 and we're still no closer to bringing her in. 38 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,040 DS Smart: If she's taking risks, maybe she intends 39 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,080 to be dead before we can get to her. 40 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,120 DS Smart: They found the car. 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,320 Local bobby spotted the license plate from the road. 42 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,960 -Was she in it? -DS Smart: We don't know yet. 43 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:47,760 Parked in a lay-by, no signs of movement. 44 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,560 He's asking if he should approach? 45 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,280 DCI Douglas: Yeah, tell him, "Yes, but with caution." 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Jane? 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Jane Andrews? 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,600 You okay? Could you open this door? 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Jane? 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,600 DCI Douglas: 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,440 I'm Detective Chief Inspector Keith Douglas, 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,400 attached to the Serious Crime Group. 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,280 The other officer is? 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Detective Sergeant Kay Smart, 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,200 also attached to the Serious Crime Group. 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,960 We are in the interview room at Bloomsbury Police Station. 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,440 And I'm interviewing. 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,960 Please, could you state your full name? 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Jane Dawn Elizabeth Andrews. 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Whatever happened between them, 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,240 it couldn't have been deliberate. 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,480 I mean, Janey can't have been in her right mind. 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Director: Cut there. Just one moment, Francesca. 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,560 -Was that not... -Director: That was great. 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,200 We just need to check your mic for sound. 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Francesca: Oh, okay. 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,280 Sound Technician: Yeah, we're all good. 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,960 Director: So, if you can go back to before Tommy's death, 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,800 do you ever think he might be in danger? 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,320 You have to remember, she really did love him. 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,560 She was a woman scorned and she took her revenge. 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,920 I think she was telling the truth. 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,240 She was prepared to say anything to save her skin. 74 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,320 You've told us that after Thomas Cressman's call 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,720 to the emergency services, the arguments continued, 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,480 and then you decided to leave the house. 77 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,440 You drove around for a while, 78 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,840 and following a phone conversation with Mr. Cressman, 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,160 you decided to return. 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Is that right? 81 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Yes. 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,920 He said to come home, so I did. 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,160 DCI Douglas: And when you got back, there was another big row, 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,680 and you went up to bed. 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Jane: Yes. 86 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,600 And I tried to go to sleep. 87 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,600 He curled up next to me 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,360 and said... 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,200 "Come on. 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,480 "I want to have sex with you. 91 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,800 You know you like it." 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,720 And then he sort of grabbed me. 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,400 And, well, I, I was frightened, so I went down. 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,480 And I got the cricket bat 95 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,440 just to place next to the bed. 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,600 To protect myself. 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,960 But then Tommy woke up, 98 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,400 and he was going on about how horrible I was. 99 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,600 And he kneed me in the back. 100 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,880 And... 101 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,400 I should have just left. 102 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,520 But I went down, and I saw, 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,760 I saw the knife 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,360 on the draining board. 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,160 And I thought, if he did anything, I'd just say, 106 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,520 "Look, I've got a knife. 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Don't touch me." 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 And then, eventually, I went to sleep. 109 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,160 And he just started hitting me. 110 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,280 So I picked up the bat and I hit him. 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,320 And he was lashing out at me, and he was pulling my hair out. 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,320 And so I grabbed the knife. 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,240 And he just came at me, and I, 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,920 I didn't know what was happening. 115 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,200 I just remember him falling down, so I ran out of the room. 116 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,360 And then I panicked, so I got in my car, and I just, 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,880 I just drove and drove and drove. 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,320 So, after leaving the house, 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,760 you made a number of calls 120 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,080 and sent a number of text messages. 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Where you seemed unaware of what happened to Mr. Cressman. 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Were you trying to convince your friends 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,200 that his death has nothing to do with you? 124 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,320 No, I just... 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,760 I didn't know he was dead. 126 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,320 DCI Douglas: Denying it, claiming it was an accident. 127 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 The story was all over the place from the start. 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,480 If in doubt, play the self-defense card. 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,920 But we had what we needed, so we charged her with murder. 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,720 The only surprise was that she got bail. 131 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,360 Janey. 132 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,200 -Brought you a cup of tea, love. -Thanks, Mum. 133 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,400 You're settling in, then. That's good. 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,640 That, um... 135 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,520 That lady solicitor called. 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 She wants you to ring her back about a meeting next week. 137 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Okay. 138 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,760 June: Does that mean you have to go back down to London? 139 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,160 I guess so. 140 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,760 They said they'd sort somewhere for me to stay. 141 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Where did Dad put my sewing machine? 142 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Ah, it's on the landing. 143 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,040 She sounded very on the ball. 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,440 The solicitor. 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,240 I'm sure she'll be able to sort things out. 146 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,840 That's not really how it works, Mum. 147 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,160 You can't just sort it out. 148 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,320 But it wasn't your fault, was it? 149 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,000 I mean, it's like you say, 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,560 it was an accident. 151 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,160 You didn't mean for it to happen. 152 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,760 No, of course not. 153 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Do we still have that gingham cotton that I bought? 154 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,000 The pale blue one? 155 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,640 I don't know. 156 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,280 It might be in the airing cupboard. 157 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,680 All right, Jane, love. This just came for you. 158 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:45,960 Aleksandra: I told her you'd be welcome 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,760 to stay with us during the trial. 160 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,680 Especially after reading such diabolical things in the papers. 161 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:55,280 -I've been trying not to look. -Of course. 162 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,640 I knew there had to be more to it. 163 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,720 All this talk of premeditated murder simply didn't ring true. 164 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,160 It's not. 165 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,600 I love Tommy. 166 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,000 I never meant to hurt him. 167 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,640 That's what I told the police. 168 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,320 I was just trying to get away from him. 169 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,520 I had no idea he was badly hurt. 170 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,400 I thought I'd just given him a scratch. 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,440 Aleksandra: A scratch? 172 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,320 Oh, you poor thing. 173 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,440 And did the Duchess really contact you 174 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,160 while you were on the run? 175 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,360 Yes. Yes, she did. 176 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Well, that's quite something. 177 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Clearly she still cares about you. 178 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,800 I know. 179 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,360 I'm making matching gingham dresses 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,480 for Beatrice and Eugenie. 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,560 -Are you? -As a thank you. 182 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,440 How sweet. 183 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,200 Coffee, darling? 184 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Jane: Please. 185 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,160 Thank you so much for this. 186 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,720 I really appreciate you both letting me stay. 187 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Well, Roger and I are happy to help. 188 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Pay no attention. 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,120 At the end of the day, 190 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,960 it doesn't matter what rubbish they print. 191 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,240 No, you're right. 192 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,480 Aleksandra: You just tell the truth 193 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,560 and it'll all come out in the wash. 194 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,600 I've always had the utmost faith in British justice. 195 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Expect to get away with murder, do you, Jane? 196 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Josh: Everyone had made up their minds. 197 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,760 The press, the public. 198 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,080 It cast her as this bunny boiler. 199 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,520 Duncan: There she was, on every front page, 200 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,760 just like when she was with Fergie. 201 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,560 I'm sure she was lapping it up. 202 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Cathy: Head to toe in black. 203 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,560 Like she was some sort of grieving widow. 204 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,080 I mean, seriously... 205 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Poor thing must have been terrified. 206 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,160 Robert: There is no doubt 207 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,960 as to the identity of Thomas Cressman's killer. 208 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Jane Andrews wielded the bat and held the knife. 209 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,720 The real question we must consider 210 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,680 is why she committed these violent acts. 211 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,880 And on this occasion, we need not look far for motive, 212 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,960 for, as you will see, hers was the classic one 213 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,320 of the jilted and betrayed lover. 214 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Having learnt that Mr. Cressman no longer intended to marry her, 215 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,920 she returned to that house with one thought in mind. 216 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Namely, to take her revenge by ending his life. 217 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Now, the defense will try and persuade you 218 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,400 that Ms. Andrews was acting in self-defense, 219 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,440 that she was afraid for her own safety. 220 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,920 And in order to support this, they will paint a picture 221 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,800 of the deceased that bears no relation to the truth. 222 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Indeed, the evidence will show you that it was, in fact, 223 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Jane herself who was the controlling 224 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,840 and ultimately violent partner in this relationship. 225 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,160 A relationship that was brutally ended 226 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,280 by a cold-blooded, premeditated murder. 227 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,960 The, um, body of the deceased was in a very awkward position, 228 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,280 um, wedged between the bed and the wall. 229 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,680 We could see that he'd been stabbed in the chest, 230 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:53,200 and his hands were like this, 231 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,640 almost as if he was trying to cover the wound 232 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,480 or extract the knife from his body. 233 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,440 Can you describe the knife that you found at the scene? 234 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,400 DCI Douglas: It was a kitchen knife with an eight-inch blade, 235 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,800 and it had been taken from the block in the kitchen. 236 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,200 Well, it appeared that Mr. Cressman 237 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,960 had also been hit over the head with a cricket bat 238 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,360 and stunned prior to being stabbed. 239 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Was there any sign that Mr. Cressman 240 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,640 had attempted to defend himself against the attack? 241 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,000 DCI Douglas: No, there was not. 242 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,160 No defensive wounds were found on his body. 243 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Robert: No defensive wounds, suggesting that Tommy 244 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,400 was defenseless when the attack came. 245 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Well, I'm sure things will go better this afternoon. 246 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,000 I'm sure they will. 247 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Leo: Seeing her in court was pretty unpleasant, 248 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,920 as you can imagine. 249 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,080 But someone needed to speak for Tommy. 250 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,800 What did you make of Jane Andrews 251 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 when she and Tom first began dating? 252 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,440 I was aware of who she was and where she'd worked, 253 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,080 and I think that had maybe impressed Tom a bit. 254 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,800 And I'm sure she was attracted to him, 255 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,040 but I think, ultimately, she was very attracted to his lifestyle. 256 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,120 Did you have any misgivings about the relationship? 257 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,680 It was kind of full-on from the start. 258 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Jane became increasingly possessive. 259 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,480 She basically gave him no space. 260 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,880 And how did Tommy respond 261 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,760 when faced with this kind of behavior? 262 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Um, Tommy was an incredibly gentle kind of guy. 263 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Plus, he was worried about what she would do. 264 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,720 I could have done that for you. 265 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,080 It's fine, Mum. It's done now. 266 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 This house is something else. 267 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,400 You'll have to buy Aleksandra a present 268 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 to say thank you when all this is... 269 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,920 you know. 270 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Jane: I shall when I get a chance. 271 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Everything's going to be all right. 272 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,520 You'll see. 273 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,600 And, tomorrow, you'll tell your side of the story. 274 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Put things straight. 275 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Mum, tomorrow, there's going to be things 276 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,280 you won't want to hear. 277 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Right. 278 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Things that happened to me when I was young. 279 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,080 Oh, Jane, I-- 280 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,600 So if you'd rather not be there, you and Dad... 281 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,520 No. No, we'll be there. 282 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,640 You just... 283 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,800 You say what you have to. 284 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:49,080 Ms. Andrews, before dealing with the events of that night, 285 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,800 I want to deal briefly with your medical history. 286 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,360 In the spring of 1999, did you undergo a few sessions 287 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,120 with a private psychotherapist? 288 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,920 Yes, I did. 289 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,880 Tom arranged them for me. 290 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,280 And what was the particular focus of the psychotherapy? 291 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,120 To deal with my abuse as a child. 292 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:17,120 No. 293 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,560 And the abuse to which you refer, was it sexual abuse? 294 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,360 Yes. 295 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,960 James: At about what age, so far as you were concerned? 296 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,040 About eight years old. 297 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,600 James: Am I right in saying you do not wish 298 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,840 to say who was involved in that? 299 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,560 That is correct. 300 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,960 But am I right that we are not talking about a parental abuse? 301 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,200 That's right, yes. 302 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,320 James: So, during your relationship 303 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,960 with Thomas Cressman, 304 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,240 you were still dealing with the effects of that abuse. 305 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,080 And this left you with a heightened perception of threat. 306 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Is that right? 307 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Yes. 308 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,240 James: And in a high-stress situation, 309 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,680 you would find yourself less able to make rational judgments. 310 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Instead, finding yourself 311 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,040 in a sort of grey mist of helplessness. 312 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,880 -Is that right? -Yes, that's true. 313 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,760 Can you now tell me about 314 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,560 your relationship with Mr. Cressman? 315 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Tommy and I were together for nearly two years. 316 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,800 I was devoted to him. 317 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,480 But in terms of your sex life, 318 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,200 would it be correct to say that you were relatively 319 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,960 innocent and straight-laced, sexually, 320 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,200 whereas Thomas was relatively adventurous? 321 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Yes, that's true. 322 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,400 James: In what ways, Ms. Andrews, 323 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,720 was Thomas relatively adventurous, 324 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,680 so far as you were concerned? 325 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,440 He would want to have anal sex with me. 326 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,600 And he wanted me to dress up in kinky clothing. 327 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,200 You also discovered sexually explicit emails 328 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,360 on Mr. Cressman's computer, did you not? 329 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Did you take these to imply that Mr. Cressman was 330 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,240 no longer committed to your relationship? 331 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,920 What was his attitude to your future together? 332 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,320 He was committed. 333 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,400 But he had periods of confusing moments on his part. 334 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,120 Where he would say that he needed space. 335 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,160 And this caused rows between you? 336 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Yes. 337 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:44,680 Because I would push him to find out where our future was going. 338 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:46,880 And are we talking merely about 339 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,800 rows where people shout at each other, 340 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,480 or was there, on occasion, more than that? 341 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,120 Yes. 342 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,720 In the sense that... 343 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,160 That he hit me. 344 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,400 And on another occasion when we were arguing, 345 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,840 he pushed me down the stairs. 346 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,120 Well, we'd been warned that things were probably going 347 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,480 to get pretty nasty. 348 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080 And, uh, so it began. 349 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,680 Well, now we come to the rows between yourself 350 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,480 and Tom on Saturday the 16th of September last year. 351 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,160 Yes. 352 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,080 The Saturday morning, he calls and tells me 353 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,480 things with Jane were just awful. 354 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,800 He sounded stressed and hassled. 355 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,600 I told him, if they got married, this is how it would be. 356 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,240 She was just too hysterical. 357 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,920 I asked him what had started the argument, 358 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,400 and he said that she wanted 359 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,200 to know if they were getting married. 360 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,080 And he told her that she wasn't stable enough 361 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,080 to be the mother of his children. 362 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Was there one aspect of those rows 363 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,200 which you did not tell the police about? 364 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,080 On Saturday morning, 365 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:18,280 he put a pillow over my head and tied me to the bed. 366 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,280 His full weight was on top of me. 367 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,120 And he anally raped me. 368 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,320 DCI Douglas: I mean, they basically threw 369 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,800 everything at it. 370 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,320 But to say she was raped, you know, and like that, 371 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,120 I mean, to be honest, it was just disgusting. 372 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:52,440 Vile. 373 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,400 Despicable lies. 374 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,320 I don't know. 375 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,920 Uh, Miss Andrews, when you placed a knife by your bed, 376 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,680 what exactly did you fear might happen? 377 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,320 I was afraid that he was going 378 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,400 to rape me again like he had that morning. 379 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,120 And when he began to attack you, 380 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,920 you tried to ward him off. 381 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,880 First with a blow from the cricket bat, 382 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,280 and when that failed, you took up the knife. 383 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Yes. 384 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Did you, however, intend 385 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280 that Thomas Cressman be stabbed with it? 386 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,160 No, not at all. 387 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,720 We just came together, 388 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,480 and the next thing I knew, he was on top of me. 389 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,920 James: And that's the point the knife went in? 390 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,640 And at that stage, did you know how badly injured he was? 391 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,720 No. 392 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,680 I just panicked. 393 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,360 I crawled out from underneath him and ran out of the room. 394 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,880 I was terrified that he was going to come after me. 395 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,760 So I took my dressing gown cord and tied the door. 396 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:21,520 I couldn't think. 397 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,040 So one might say you were in a gray mist? 398 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,680 Jane: Yes. 399 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,720 James: And as you left the house, 400 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,960 was there any sight or sound from Tom? 401 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,000 No. 402 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,120 No, there was nothing. 403 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,680 That's when I realized he must be dead. 404 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Aleksandra: Well, you see, that's when her story 405 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,520 really began to change. 406 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,760 This was quite different to the tale I'd been told. 407 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Then I realized that I had made a dreadful mistake. 408 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,640 There are one or two things that are a bit confusing. 409 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,720 What do you mean? 410 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,640 Well, you said yourself 411 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,280 you'd told differing versions to different people. 412 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Yes, because I was confused. 413 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,920 And scared. 414 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,680 Aleksandra: Right. 415 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,440 It's just you told me 416 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,920 that you thought you'd given him a scratch. 417 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,640 But then, today, you said 418 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,560 you knew he was dead before you left the house. 419 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,520 I know. I just... 420 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,200 couldn't even admit it to myself. 421 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,600 You know, Roger and I have been talking, and he feels, 422 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:04,200 we both feel, that, actually, it might be more appropriate 423 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,360 for you to move into a hotel for the remainder of the trial. 424 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,840 Maybe tomorrow. 425 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,680 I see. 426 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,720 It's just simpler all around. 427 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,040 Don't you think? 428 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Okay. 429 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,360 You're doing a very good job. 430 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Robert: So, Ms. Andrews, 431 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,000 you left the house in the early hours of Sunday morning 432 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,040 and spent the next two and a half days 433 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,640 driving 'round the country. 434 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,160 During which time, 435 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:25,000 as far as you knew, nobody had found Tom's body. 436 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,760 Why not tell someone? 437 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Even as you were keying in messages and speaking 438 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,320 to people on your phone, 439 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,160 why did you not say this man was lying there, dying? 440 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,480 I didn't want anybody to think I'd fled the scene. 441 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,720 Left Tom to die in that room. 442 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Oh, so the messages were calculated to mislead. 443 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,680 No. 444 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,880 I know it's absurd. It doesn't make any sense. 445 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280 Robert: No, no, it makes perfect sense. 446 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,960 This was no grey mist. 447 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,280 Uh, whatever that may be. 448 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Rather, you were deliberately attempting to mislead 449 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200 your friends and former husband. 450 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,400 And now you've told this court that you'd been admitted 451 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,840 to Charing Cross Hospital after falling down some stairs. 452 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Tom, he pushed me down the stairs. 453 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,320 I was very upset. 454 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,800 But you never told that to any doctor, 455 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,720 to any police officer, did you? 456 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Just as you never told anyone about the occasion you say 457 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,120 you got a bruise on your head, because he hit you? 458 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,600 No, because I was too ashamed. 459 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,080 When you're talking to the police, 460 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,200 this is not a time for shame, is it? 461 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,960 I just wanted to get 462 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,440 the interview over and done with. 463 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,320 But what was the reason that you failed to mention 464 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,680 something that you now rely on in this court? 465 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Namely that, earlier that day, 466 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,480 he had had sexual intercourse with you by force. 467 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Because I was totally ashamed and embarrassed. 468 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,560 You were seen three times 469 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,440 by a woman doctor at the police station. 470 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120 It was a private examination. 471 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,920 You could have drawn attention if you wished to anything 472 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,000 that had happened to you that you felt might be relevant 473 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,680 to the trouble that you were facing. 474 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160 But you did not draw anyone's attention to it, did you? 475 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,080 I was too traumatized by the whole thing. 476 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,160 Well, you were in a fit state to be interviewed. 477 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,400 And to explain all you did to the police. 478 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,600 Why not explain to the doctor? "I've been raped. 479 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,720 And there will be physical signs of that if you have a look." 480 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,120 I physically could not. 481 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,560 Richard: You didn't tell anyone about it 482 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,840 because it's completely invented, that story. 483 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,920 In fact, both stories about anal rape, 484 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360 both in the morning 485 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,720 and the alleged second attempt that evening, 486 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,080 just completely invented, are they not? 487 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,600 No, not at all. 488 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080 Ever since your arrest, you have fabricated 489 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,040 a succession of contradictory stories in a blatant attempt 490 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600 to escape blame for Thomas Cressman's death, 491 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520 -have you not? -No, it's not true. 492 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Richard: Even now, the evidence you've presented here in court 493 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440 is riddled with inconsistencies. 494 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 You claim that Mr. Cressman attacked you that morning. 495 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,080 And, as a result, you left the house for several hours. 496 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,560 But then you chose to return. 497 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,800 You claim that you feared further sexual assault. 498 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,760 Yet in the next breath, you're saying you happily took 499 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,480 off your clothes and got into bed beside him. 500 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Why would you do that? 501 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Tom wanted me to sleep in his bed. 502 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,960 I couldn't say no. 503 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,320 So, you are afraid for your safety, 504 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,880 yet you left the bedroom multiple times. 505 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,800 Went up and down the stairs, first to fetch a bat, 506 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680 later to arm yourself with a knife. 507 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Which means that, at any point, 508 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,680 you could have left that house again. 509 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,000 But you chose not to. 510 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Now, that makes no sense, does it? 511 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,680 I was afraid of what Tommy might do. 512 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,320 Richard: Meanwhile, your description 513 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,400 of the attack has changed. 514 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560 When talking to the police, you said that Mr. Cressman 515 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,880 said that he was going to hurt you. 516 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,160 However, as soon as you reach court, 517 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,480 you're claiming that he shouted 518 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,800 that he was going to fucking kill you. 519 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,160 You claimed, initially, you thought 520 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,520 you'd just given him a scratch, 521 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,360 but now you say you were so covered in blood 522 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,040 that you assumed he must be dead. 523 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280 Not one word of it rings true. 524 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,320 I... 525 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,800 It's hard to remember. 526 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,040 Everything just happened so fast. 527 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,720 We earlier heard that Tom had arranged for you 528 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,320 to see a psychiatrist to help with your, uh, problems. 529 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,400 What problems were they again? 530 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,120 Uh, my child abuse. 531 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,520 Oh, yeah, the child abuse 532 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,760 that you've now chosen to reveal in court. 533 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,240 No, that's-- 534 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,760 And about which you refuse to disclose any details. 535 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,080 I don't want to. 536 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,400 James: Which is entirely your right, 537 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,400 but you must agree it seems convenient, 538 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,920 does it not, to present us with 539 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,520 an allegation which has never been officially made, 540 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,640 nor legally proven. 541 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,480 Do you want a break? 542 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,600 Ten minutes, members of the jury. 543 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,640 Man: Jane. Are you all right? 544 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,400 Antibiotics. 545 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880 Doctor says it's just a low-grade infection. 546 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,480 You must have been feeling poorly for days. 547 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,200 A bit. 548 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,680 Nurse: Bless you. 549 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,000 Us women just soldier on, don't we? 550 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,720 We have to. 551 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Would the foreman of the jury please stand? 552 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,360 -Have you reached a verdict? -Yes. 553 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,400 On the count of murder, do you find the defendant, 554 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,920 Jane Andrews, guilty or not guilty? 555 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,880 Guilty. 556 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,360 I think she honestly thought she'd get away with it. 557 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,720 Oh, Tommy. 558 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,120 Jane Andrews. 559 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,880 In killing the man you loved, 560 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,480 you ended his life and ruined your own. 561 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,720 It is evident that you made your attack on him 562 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,560 when you were consumed with anger and bitterness. 563 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,360 But nothing could justify what you did. 564 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,480 Even if you were feeling wronged 565 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200 and were emotionally vulnerable, 566 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920 you were attacking an unarmed man 567 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,320 who had possibly been asleep 568 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,160 only a few minutes before you attacked him. 569 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,760 You then left him to die without remorse. 570 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640 Therefore, as your counsel recognizes, 571 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,440 there is only one sentence I can place upon you. 572 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,640 And that is life imprisonment. 573 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,360 People don't believe her, but that doesn't mean 574 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,080 Jane isn't telling the truth. 575 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960 It just means people don't want to believe her. 576 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,680 There's no excuse for what she did. 577 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,000 And I know no one wants to speak ill of the dead, 578 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,240 but Tom wasn't an angel, 579 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,840 and Janey wasn't a monster either. 580 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,360 The whole thing is just terribly, terribly sad. 581 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,400 The fact is she's a murderer, however you want to look at it. 582 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,840 She was a woman scorned, 583 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,200 and she took Thomas Cressman's life in anger. 584 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,160 And even that wasn't enough for her. 585 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,560 She had to try and destroy his good name. 586 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,280 But, you know, at the end of the day, 587 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,160 we didn't let her get away with it. 588 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,960 Any other personal items? 589 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600 Uh, no, you can keep that. 590 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,120 Well, unless it's valuable. 591 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,720 Uh, no. 592 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,760 It's just... 593 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,600 It was a present from the Duchess of York, actually. 594 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,800 No one asked for your life story, love. 595 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,920 Guard: Follow me. 596 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,120 Hey, yo, it's Fergie's bird. 597 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,920 Welcome home, Your Majesty. 598 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,080 Whoo! Whoo! 599 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,080 Guard: All right, you ladies. 600 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040 Dr. Chaudhry: So, how have you been this week? 601 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,800 Jane: Pretty much the same. 602 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,680 Jane, as we discussed last time, I think your earlier diagnosis 603 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,360 of depression was correct. 604 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,320 Right. 605 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,520 But now that I'm getting to know you better, 606 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,920 I think it possibly doesn't 607 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,400 explain everything you're dealing with. 608 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,120 Have you ever heard 609 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,720 of borderline personality disorder? 610 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,160 No, I don't think so. 611 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,960 Well, a person with BPD often has a long-standing pattern 612 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,440 of thoughts and feelings 613 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,720 that probably began when they were very young. 614 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,400 They experience certain recurrent impulses and ways 615 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,960 of being in relationships, 616 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,160 which often cause them a lot of distress, 617 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,560 and which often involve self-damaging behaviors. 618 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,560 So, things like recurrent suicidal threats. 619 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,520 Does any of that feel familiar to you? 620 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,240 I don't know. 621 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,760 Maybe. 622 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,840 Dr. Chaudhry: Okay. 623 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,040 Well, we often find that there are other common behaviors, too. 624 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,160 People with BPD feel deeply entrenched shame. 625 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,960 So, whenever they make mistakes or have weaknesses, 626 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,160 they try very hard to avoid admitting it. 627 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,200 And sometimes that means they lie, 628 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,040 so they don't have to face it. 629 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,080 Right. 630 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,400 Dr. Chaudhry: But that doesn't mean they're trying to deceive. 631 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,840 But they're a way 632 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,120 of coping when you're feeling a lot of pain. 633 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,560 It's a bit like going out in the sun 634 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,920 when you're already sunburned. 635 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,240 If you're already feeling emotionally raw, 636 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,640 you can't begin to make healthy emotional connections. 637 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,000 So, I need to stay out of the sun? 638 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,480 For now. 639 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,200 Well, that shouldn't be a problem. 640 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,280 Jane, with the right support, you can begin to learn 641 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,720 to control your behavioral triggers. 642 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,160 Right, it'll take work. 643 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,920 But I really think this could be a whole fresh start for you. 644 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,760 June: How are your sessions going with Dr. Chaudhry? 645 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,680 Yeah, good. 646 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:11,680 They're doing a lot of work on my triggers. 647 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,240 Identifying behavioral patterns, you know? 648 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,040 Working through why I do the things that I do. 649 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,160 I think it's really helping. 650 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,720 And, eh, has there been any more news about the appeal? 651 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,120 Mum, I told you, they said it'd be ages before we hear it. 652 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,600 But, it should make a difference, shouldn't it? 653 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,200 This diagnosis. 654 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,040 It changes everything, really. 655 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,000 And the new solicitor thinks 656 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,760 there are new avenues that we can explore. 657 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,160 -That's really good, Jane. -Mm. 658 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,120 June: I can't believe it's Christmas already. 659 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,280 We had a card. 660 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,520 Jane: Sorry? 661 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,000 We had a Christmas card 662 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,760 from Mr. and Mrs. Cressman. 663 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,640 They said they knew it would be a difficult Christmas 664 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,240 and they sent their best wishes. 665 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,200 That was... 666 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:11,240 That... 667 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,600 That was kind of them, wasn't it? 668 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,160 I wondered if we-- 669 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,960 Listen, Mum, I've got to go soon. 670 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,240 -No, no, of course. -Uh, Jane? 671 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,000 Jane, will we, um... 672 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,720 Will we speak to you on Christmas Day? 673 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,320 June: I hate to think of you all alone in that place. 674 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,600 Actually, I've made a new friend. 675 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,360 June: Oh. 676 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,800 Well, more of a pen pal. 677 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,560 Francesca: The way she's been portrayed 678 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,520 as completely hard and unfeeling, 679 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,160 that's not Janey. 680 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,880 If anything, she feels things much too deeply. 681 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,680 She had all these lovely dreams 682 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,320 of a great fairytale romance. 683 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,360 And when that fell apart, so did she. 684 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,920 The fact is that woman 685 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,680 never showed any remorse. 686 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:20,120 Not to me. 687 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,840 Or to my family. 688 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,000 So, if you ask me, they should never let her out. 689 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:34,360 And any man who gets involved with her 690 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,920 should be very... 691 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,880 very careful. 692 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,120 I miss Tommy every single day. 693 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,920 Ah, the sound of his voice. 694 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,760 The way he laughed. 695 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Silly jokes. 696 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,680 He had this incredible gift for living. 697 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,760 He was my, my beautiful boy. 698 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,800 And now he's gone. 699 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,080 I just want to keep my brother's memory alive. 700 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,840 Can we stop there? 701 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,080 Director: Of course.