1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:02,820 UFOs with extraordinary capabilities are present in our skies, 2 00:00:02,845 --> 00:00:05,601 according to a team of former US Government insiders. 3 00:00:05,625 --> 00:00:08,484 This program features military eyewitnesses 4 00:00:08,508 --> 00:00:11,054 describing these unidentified craft for the first time. 5 00:00:12,225 --> 00:00:14,100 Coming up on Unidentified. 6 00:00:14,562 --> 00:00:16,732 They all changed position 7 00:00:16,732 --> 00:00:18,651 and then they were gone. 8 00:00:18,651 --> 00:00:21,489 And as soon as I turned the lights, it was like zoop. 9 00:00:21,489 --> 00:00:22,247 Straight to me. 10 00:00:22,272 --> 00:00:23,396 When you look at the data, 11 00:00:23,421 --> 00:00:24,924 the Nimitz was not an isolated event. 12 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,208 I know what I saw. 13 00:00:27,233 --> 00:00:29,122 Even if I don't know what it is, I know I saw it. 14 00:00:29,577 --> 00:00:31,468 Do you know what it's like to serve your country, 15 00:00:31,493 --> 00:00:33,958 only to have someone come out and say you're crazy? 16 00:00:36,488 --> 00:00:38,011 The Pentagon has confirmed the existence 17 00:00:38,036 --> 00:00:40,540 of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program 18 00:00:40,565 --> 00:00:43,136 that studied UFOs and they released video. 19 00:00:43,161 --> 00:00:44,872 There's a whole fleet of 'em. 20 00:00:44,897 --> 00:00:46,338 My gosh. 21 00:00:46,821 --> 00:00:48,949 For eight years Lue Elizondo 22 00:00:48,974 --> 00:00:52,313 ran a secret UFO program for the U.S. military. 23 00:00:52,664 --> 00:00:55,413 But in 2017, he quit in protest. 24 00:00:56,187 --> 00:00:57,981 I put my entire future on the line 25 00:00:58,006 --> 00:00:59,640 because I believe in what I believe in. 26 00:00:59,665 --> 00:01:01,115 Now he's joined an elite group 27 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:02,748 of former government insiders. 28 00:01:02,773 --> 00:01:06,780 Their mission, reveal what they say is the truth about UFOs. 29 00:01:07,195 --> 00:01:09,073 U.S. airspace is being violated 30 00:01:09,098 --> 00:01:12,164 by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities. 31 00:01:12,563 --> 00:01:14,633 This is real, and we're gonna get to the bottom of it. 32 00:01:15,234 --> 00:01:16,819 I've seen too much. 33 00:01:16,819 --> 00:01:18,281 I've talked to too many people. 34 00:01:18,697 --> 00:01:19,907 I can't in good conscience 35 00:01:19,907 --> 00:01:21,469 just keep my head buried in the sand. 36 00:01:34,412 --> 00:01:36,831 So, while investigating the Nimitz incident, 37 00:01:36,831 --> 00:01:38,834 we came across some information 38 00:01:38,834 --> 00:01:41,964 that leads us to believe, that there maybe 39 00:01:41,964 --> 00:01:44,673 a particular area, a rally point so to speak, 40 00:01:44,698 --> 00:01:46,556 where some of these things are going. 41 00:01:46,881 --> 00:01:47,885 That's a big deal. 42 00:01:48,615 --> 00:01:51,760 At a minimum, we need to get down to that site 43 00:01:51,785 --> 00:01:53,847 and we need to figure out what's going on. 44 00:01:54,529 --> 00:01:55,738 Lue Elizondo is following 45 00:01:55,763 --> 00:01:57,784 an extraordinary break in his investigation 46 00:01:57,915 --> 00:02:00,813 into a major military UFO sighting off the West Coast. 47 00:02:02,782 --> 00:02:04,994 In the fall of 2004, 48 00:02:05,019 --> 00:02:07,235 two F-18 pilots from the USS Nimitz 49 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:09,347 told Elizondo they came face to face 50 00:02:09,372 --> 00:02:11,072 with a bizarre, Tic Tac-shaped object. 51 00:02:11,097 --> 00:02:14,206 High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. 52 00:02:14,419 --> 00:02:16,347 Whoa, we don't have that. 53 00:02:16,570 --> 00:02:17,558 And I'm talkin', 54 00:02:17,583 --> 00:02:19,686 we're flyin' one of the premiere planes on the planet. 55 00:02:20,311 --> 00:02:22,819 But the incident wasn't an isolated event. 56 00:02:23,348 --> 00:02:25,209 A Navy technician revealed the craft 57 00:02:25,483 --> 00:02:27,256 allegedly traveled underwater 58 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:30,256 at nearly two times the speed of the fastest U.S. submarine. 59 00:02:30,892 --> 00:02:32,259 According to one of the sonar guys, 60 00:02:32,284 --> 00:02:34,298 they were going 70 plus knots under the water. 61 00:02:34,661 --> 00:02:36,376 And another Navy radar specialist 62 00:02:36,401 --> 00:02:38,070 says he had tracked as many as a hundred 63 00:02:38,095 --> 00:02:39,732 of the strange craft for days. 64 00:02:39,757 --> 00:02:41,342 They fell off my radar envelope 65 00:02:41,342 --> 00:02:42,976 down off the coast of Baja, California. 66 00:02:43,001 --> 00:02:43,521 Okay. 67 00:02:43,546 --> 00:02:45,137 These things were going somewhere. 68 00:02:45,162 --> 00:02:46,527 I could tell you the lat and long. 69 00:02:49,117 --> 00:02:53,015 We now have a very good lead on a potential hotspot. 70 00:02:53,301 --> 00:02:55,240 What does that mean? I don't know what this means. 71 00:02:55,265 --> 00:02:57,991 Are these things, can you see 'em all the time flying around out there? 72 00:02:58,016 --> 00:02:58,857 Is it underwater? 73 00:02:59,037 --> 00:02:59,904 What about the locals? 74 00:02:59,929 --> 00:03:01,932 These are all of the things now that we can use 75 00:03:02,388 --> 00:03:05,203 to help us start collecting additional data points 76 00:03:05,332 --> 00:03:07,129 and putting the pieces of the puzzle together. 77 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:11,527 Hey, how are you, brother? 78 00:03:13,266 --> 00:03:14,649 Good, man, I'm pulling right up. 79 00:03:15,496 --> 00:03:17,022 Joining Elizondo is a new member 80 00:03:17,047 --> 00:03:19,842 of the investigation who himself was a witness 81 00:03:19,997 --> 00:03:22,293 to the strange events of November 2004. 82 00:03:23,161 --> 00:03:25,926 Different people have different motivations for coming forward. 83 00:03:26,189 --> 00:03:28,025 These are soldiers or sailors 84 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:29,941 who have been involved in something extraordinary. 85 00:03:29,966 --> 00:03:32,855 They're not quite sure what to make of it, but they want the truth to come out. 86 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,255 How are you, my friend? Very good. 87 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,129 How are things going? They're outstanding today. 88 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:39,108 Sean Cahill served 20 years in the Navy. 89 00:03:39,464 --> 00:03:42,129 He was the top security officer on the USS Princeton, 90 00:03:42,465 --> 00:03:45,675 a missile cruiser in the USS Nimitz carrier strike group. 91 00:03:45,894 --> 00:03:47,939 Cahill was responsible for law and order 92 00:03:47,964 --> 00:03:50,730 aboard the ship and running counterterrorism patrols at sea. 93 00:03:52,681 --> 00:03:57,055 Tell me when this event began for you. 94 00:03:57,161 --> 00:03:59,081 We were told Nimitz has got something going on, 95 00:03:59,106 --> 00:04:00,558 they've got something in their airspace. 96 00:04:00,583 --> 00:04:01,502 Cahill is the fifth 97 00:04:01,527 --> 00:04:03,058 Navy witness to come forward. 98 00:04:03,083 --> 00:04:04,293 This is the first time 99 00:04:04,318 --> 00:04:05,933 he has spoken publicly about the events. 100 00:04:07,613 --> 00:04:09,704 We're gettin' calls up on the bridge 101 00:04:09,729 --> 00:04:11,065 to run out on the bridge wing 102 00:04:11,090 --> 00:04:12,611 and let us know if you see anything. 103 00:04:13,003 --> 00:04:14,088 And they'd give us an angle, 104 00:04:14,113 --> 00:04:15,760 and they'd say do you see anything out there? 105 00:04:15,785 --> 00:04:17,741 And a few times we even turned the ship and 106 00:04:17,991 --> 00:04:19,655 I recall saying "what are we looking for?" 107 00:04:20,097 --> 00:04:21,365 And I think that they were saying 108 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,139 oh, the Nimitz has got some strange contacts. 109 00:04:24,057 --> 00:04:25,467 They obviously had something on radar. 110 00:04:26,025 --> 00:04:28,175 They wanted us to see if we could put eyes on it. 111 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,957 They didn't tell us what we were looking for. 112 00:04:30,064 --> 00:04:32,267 We went out on the bridge wing, 113 00:04:32,484 --> 00:04:34,903 and me and one of my lookouts were scanning the sky. 114 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:36,881 What Cahill witnessed 115 00:04:37,099 --> 00:04:38,780 has haunted him for 15 years. 116 00:04:40,689 --> 00:04:44,365 So we were both looking up ahead, about 45 degrees angle, 117 00:04:44,878 --> 00:04:47,190 and there was a constellation of lights up there. 118 00:04:48,010 --> 00:04:48,984 Let me get this straight. 119 00:04:49,009 --> 00:04:52,055 You're looking up, and you see these pattern of lights. 120 00:04:52,506 --> 00:04:53,758 They all changed position, 121 00:04:53,783 --> 00:04:55,368 some moving inward towards the center, 122 00:04:55,393 --> 00:04:57,470 some moving outward, but all rotating. 123 00:04:57,495 --> 00:04:59,978 As it rotated, some of the lights disappeared. 124 00:05:01,142 --> 00:05:02,993 And then they were gone. 125 00:05:03,343 --> 00:05:05,650 I didn't see a trail, I didn't see any effect. 126 00:05:06,222 --> 00:05:07,641 It was just there was a light there, 127 00:05:07,666 --> 00:05:09,228 and then there was no longer a light there, 128 00:05:09,253 --> 00:05:10,182 but the night was clear. 129 00:05:10,207 --> 00:05:12,486 This was not stars being occluded by clouds. 130 00:05:12,756 --> 00:05:13,916 That was when I got, 131 00:05:14,774 --> 00:05:16,027 as I get the goosebumps right now, 132 00:05:16,027 --> 00:05:18,091 I got really interested in what was going on. 133 00:05:18,116 --> 00:05:19,242 What the hell is this? 134 00:05:20,373 --> 00:05:22,157 Cahill is the first eyewitness to describe 135 00:05:22,182 --> 00:05:25,518 this abrupt and extraordinary movement of multiple craft. 136 00:05:26,116 --> 00:05:27,869 If Princeton had it on the radar, 137 00:05:28,436 --> 00:05:31,274 why isn't this on the news every night, 138 00:05:31,299 --> 00:05:33,635 that something we don't understand 139 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:36,528 is present in our atmosphere, coming and going as it pleases 140 00:05:36,553 --> 00:05:38,847 with absolute impunity over our military? 141 00:05:39,665 --> 00:05:40,958 Cahill's account bolsters 142 00:05:40,983 --> 00:05:43,068 the testimony of his shipmate Kevin Day. 143 00:05:43,303 --> 00:05:44,981 The next morning I went and checked my email, 144 00:05:45,006 --> 00:05:47,543 and I had a video from the Black Aces squadron. 145 00:05:48,669 --> 00:05:51,060 The following morning at breakfast I talked to Kevin Day 146 00:05:51,479 --> 00:05:53,496 and another chief petty officer who's a radar operator. 147 00:05:54,035 --> 00:05:56,769 And I said to them what was goin' on last night? 148 00:05:56,879 --> 00:05:59,745 And the chief grunted at me, go look at your email. 149 00:06:00,422 --> 00:06:02,049 I go in the back and I log on 150 00:06:03,243 --> 00:06:04,132 and there's the video. 151 00:06:05,583 --> 00:06:06,390 The next morning, 152 00:06:06,415 --> 00:06:09,130 Cahill and Day watched a longer version of this video 153 00:06:09,155 --> 00:06:11,184 captured by an F-18's camera. 154 00:06:11,489 --> 00:06:14,076 It's the same video that wouldn't be seen again 155 00:06:14,101 --> 00:06:15,506 until more than a decade later, 156 00:06:15,613 --> 00:06:19,078 when Elizondo helped get it released to the public in 2017. 157 00:06:20,136 --> 00:06:21,078 Every night we would have 158 00:06:21,103 --> 00:06:22,657 an operations intelligence briefing. 159 00:06:22,816 --> 00:06:23,387 So... 160 00:06:25,191 --> 00:06:26,769 I kind of smirk and I walk in, 161 00:06:26,794 --> 00:06:28,801 because I'm like wow, maybe we're gonna hear something. 162 00:06:28,826 --> 00:06:30,489 Maybe we're gonna find out what's goin' on. 163 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:32,481 Now as they start the briefing, 164 00:06:32,506 --> 00:06:34,279 the young officer in charge gave the little nod 165 00:06:34,304 --> 00:06:35,568 to the person running the computer. 166 00:06:35,593 --> 00:06:36,803 You know, next slide. 167 00:06:36,828 --> 00:06:38,404 And as they hit the space bar, 168 00:06:38,553 --> 00:06:42,210 a caricature of a flying saucer 169 00:06:42,465 --> 00:06:45,404 with a little green alien moves across the screen. 170 00:06:46,951 --> 00:06:50,321 The room erupts in laughter, and that was it. 171 00:06:50,346 --> 00:06:52,611 The captain said well, we all, we had a little bit of fun. 172 00:06:52,636 --> 00:06:54,406 I guess you guys were chasin' something around, 173 00:06:54,431 --> 00:06:56,328 but that's over now, let's get on with the briefing. 174 00:06:56,353 --> 00:06:57,604 I'm an intel guy. 175 00:06:57,629 --> 00:06:59,632 It's not uncommon that if you have a person 176 00:06:59,657 --> 00:07:01,242 in a particular position of trust, 177 00:07:01,693 --> 00:07:03,196 and you want to keep them quiet, 178 00:07:03,221 --> 00:07:05,837 that ridicule can be used as some sort of leverage. 179 00:07:05,862 --> 00:07:07,585 I wanna know how that thing went that fast, 180 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:09,454 and why it didn't need wings, and whose it is. 181 00:07:09,673 --> 00:07:12,444 And if it's not us, it's a national security threat. 182 00:07:14,849 --> 00:07:15,873 When I came back 183 00:07:16,684 --> 00:07:19,092 from the trip, and as time went by 184 00:07:19,117 --> 00:07:21,109 and as I told friends and family about it, 185 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:23,548 I didn't want my own memories to change enough 186 00:07:23,573 --> 00:07:25,399 that I would question my own memories. 187 00:07:25,470 --> 00:07:27,782 And so I wanted to tell other people while it was still fresh. 188 00:07:28,021 --> 00:07:30,483 And there were people who were interested for my wellbeing, 189 00:07:30,982 --> 00:07:32,325 and then there were other people that 190 00:07:32,350 --> 00:07:34,255 immediately were like, "Well that's weird." 191 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,774 And I said, "What do you think about it?" 192 00:07:35,799 --> 00:07:37,360 And they couldn't formulate an opinion. 193 00:07:37,385 --> 00:07:40,321 A lot of people can't seem to formulate an opinion 194 00:07:40,346 --> 00:07:42,391 beyond I don't know about that, 195 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:43,588 I don't believe in that, 196 00:07:43,930 --> 00:07:45,080 or I don't know what that was. 197 00:07:45,376 --> 00:07:48,103 And even getting someone to speculate is hard. 198 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:50,287 It ends up coming down to what you can 199 00:07:50,312 --> 00:07:51,677 perceive and what you can't. 200 00:07:51,702 --> 00:07:54,115 There's something about it that isn't 201 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:57,374 even manifested as real for other people, 202 00:07:58,013 --> 00:08:01,239 but it was on the radar, it's on the footage. 203 00:08:01,746 --> 00:08:04,626 I saw it with my eyes, the pilots saw it with their eyes. 204 00:08:04,651 --> 00:08:08,215 The watchman, the sailor next to me, saw it with his eyes. 205 00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:09,752 This is a real phenomenon. 206 00:08:10,097 --> 00:08:11,354 Nobody raised an eyebrow, 207 00:08:11,379 --> 00:08:14,354 and it didn't seem like anybody cared. 208 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:16,245 We weren't even told not to talk about it. 209 00:08:16,377 --> 00:08:19,948 And that was one of the things that struck me as being um, 210 00:08:21,807 --> 00:08:22,807 how do I put it, 211 00:08:22,832 --> 00:08:24,385 that delegitimized the experience. 212 00:08:24,410 --> 00:08:26,400 And I got to a point where 213 00:08:27,791 --> 00:08:30,044 I pretended like it didn't happen, to be honest with you. 214 00:08:31,740 --> 00:08:34,243 Someone tells you something you encountered is not real, 215 00:08:34,243 --> 00:08:35,369 and that you're crazy, 216 00:08:35,369 --> 00:08:37,107 and you got nowhere to go. 217 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,989 Finally after 15 years of carrying this secret around, 218 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:42,935 somebody was paying attention. 219 00:08:43,084 --> 00:08:46,269 It was real, and other people experienced it too. 220 00:08:46,294 --> 00:08:48,466 And he wasn't going crazy. 221 00:08:56,143 --> 00:08:56,979 How we doin', brother? 222 00:08:57,004 --> 00:08:57,518 Mornin'. 223 00:08:57,764 --> 00:08:58,409 How you doin'? 224 00:08:58,462 --> 00:09:00,194 You know, any day above ground's a good day. 225 00:09:00,219 --> 00:09:01,241 I'm with you on that one. 226 00:09:01,582 --> 00:09:03,463 I've asked Sean to come with us on this trip. 227 00:09:04,081 --> 00:09:05,769 He is a trained investigator, 228 00:09:05,794 --> 00:09:07,299 knows how to ask the right questions. 229 00:09:07,492 --> 00:09:09,597 He also has a personal investment in it. 230 00:09:10,934 --> 00:09:12,980 I think Sean would like some answers himself. 231 00:09:14,831 --> 00:09:16,160 Cahill is joining Elizondo 232 00:09:16,185 --> 00:09:17,309 on a mission to Mexico, 233 00:09:17,504 --> 00:09:19,692 following a lead from a Navy radar operator. 234 00:09:20,073 --> 00:09:22,545 Kevin Day provided us a completely new 235 00:09:22,856 --> 00:09:24,549 piece of the puzzle we never had before. 236 00:09:24,708 --> 00:09:26,033 Day provided the coordinates 237 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:29,471 where he says a fleet of UFOs disappeared off Navy radar. 238 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,300 We can actually now go to the location, 239 00:09:32,482 --> 00:09:33,940 and we can try to figure out 240 00:09:34,104 --> 00:09:35,646 if there's any type of correlation at all. 241 00:09:38,382 --> 00:09:39,906 Coming up on Unidentified. 242 00:09:41,155 --> 00:09:42,819 This is a part of the Nimitz story 243 00:09:42,844 --> 00:09:44,264 that not only has never been told, 244 00:09:44,487 --> 00:09:45,768 it has never really been explored. 245 00:09:45,917 --> 00:09:47,253 I just turned the lights, 246 00:09:47,278 --> 00:09:49,207 and as soon as I turned the lights, it was like zoop. 247 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,542 Lights. 248 00:09:50,575 --> 00:09:51,346 Sea. 249 00:09:51,371 --> 00:09:52,955 Lights coming out of the water and moving. 250 00:09:53,554 --> 00:09:55,514 9, 10, 11 different unique incidents. 251 00:09:55,539 --> 00:09:56,632 That's definitely a hotspot. 252 00:09:56,804 --> 00:09:58,148 Where were you when you saw this? 253 00:09:58,570 --> 00:09:59,456 Guadalupe. 254 00:09:59,617 --> 00:10:00,726 At the island of Guadalupe. 255 00:10:10,307 --> 00:10:12,886 My hope is to hear what people have to say. 256 00:10:12,911 --> 00:10:14,705 If anything. If they have anything to provide, 257 00:10:14,730 --> 00:10:16,839 I wanna be able to hear it myself. 258 00:10:17,414 --> 00:10:19,083 Lue Elizondo has asked 259 00:10:19,108 --> 00:10:20,937 former Navy law enforcement officer Sean Cahill 260 00:10:21,098 --> 00:10:23,101 to join his UFO investigation to Mexico. 261 00:10:23,997 --> 00:10:25,084 They're following a lead 262 00:10:25,109 --> 00:10:27,249 provided by Cahill's shipmate, Kevin Day. 263 00:10:28,109 --> 00:10:29,631 These things were going somewhere. 264 00:10:29,661 --> 00:10:31,169 They fell off my radar envelope 265 00:10:31,194 --> 00:10:33,083 down off the coast of Baja, California. 266 00:10:33,257 --> 00:10:34,598 I could tell you the lat and long. 267 00:10:35,592 --> 00:10:36,840 The coordinates lead here, 268 00:10:37,388 --> 00:10:40,494 a small, remote Mexican island called Guadalupe. 269 00:10:40,964 --> 00:10:42,850 What I'd really like to see is for us 270 00:10:42,875 --> 00:10:45,361 to take the event from 2004 and to show 271 00:10:45,386 --> 00:10:47,744 if this phenomena has continued post-2004. 272 00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:49,857 This is a part of the Nimitz story 273 00:10:49,968 --> 00:10:51,686 that not only has never been told, 274 00:10:52,053 --> 00:10:53,310 it has never really been explored. 275 00:10:54,496 --> 00:10:55,607 In order to keep his work 276 00:10:55,632 --> 00:10:57,183 for the military's UFO unit secret, 277 00:10:57,425 --> 00:10:59,901 Elizondo put in interviews of civilian witnesses. 278 00:11:01,096 --> 00:11:03,065 I think there's goodness in casting a wide net, 279 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:05,277 try to get as many people that we can 280 00:11:05,302 --> 00:11:07,277 to come on record and tell us what they've seen. 281 00:11:07,504 --> 00:11:10,949 My frustration when I was at AATIP was I was always stuck 282 00:11:11,195 --> 00:11:13,957 focusing only on military individuals. 283 00:11:14,268 --> 00:11:16,643 This is the first time you've been able to not hide. 284 00:11:17,016 --> 00:11:18,505 Right. I hate to put it that way, but 285 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:19,975 you don't have to hide behind anything. 286 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,492 You can ask the questions now. Right. 287 00:11:23,608 --> 00:11:25,689 The journey to Guadalupe Island starts here. 288 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,850 Ensenada, Mexico, is a major hub 289 00:11:28,875 --> 00:11:30,359 for commercial and tourist fishing. 290 00:11:31,587 --> 00:11:33,125 Elizondo and Cahill want to know 291 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:35,429 if locals here have seen strange things in the sky. 292 00:11:37,725 --> 00:11:40,052 I'm used to speaking with military people who are experts, 293 00:11:40,077 --> 00:11:42,053 but I think in the end it comes down 294 00:11:42,078 --> 00:11:43,334 to sheer volume 295 00:11:43,834 --> 00:11:44,873 and commonalities. 296 00:11:45,114 --> 00:11:46,996 If you have people that are both trained observers 297 00:11:47,021 --> 00:11:49,973 and untrained observers telling you the same thing, 298 00:11:50,203 --> 00:11:52,281 there is a really good possibility 299 00:11:52,306 --> 00:11:54,679 that they are both describing a similar event. 300 00:11:57,149 --> 00:11:58,875 They've teamed up with Jordy Lebrija, 301 00:11:59,056 --> 00:12:00,975 a Mexican journalist who says he's heard stories 302 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,227 about unexplained sightings in Baja, California, for years. 303 00:12:05,198 --> 00:12:06,386 So Jordy, who's the gentleman 304 00:12:06,411 --> 00:12:07,682 we're gonna be meeting today? 305 00:12:07,764 --> 00:12:08,950 He's a pilot, 306 00:12:09,175 --> 00:12:11,100 and he does a lot of flights to Guadalupe, 307 00:12:11,535 --> 00:12:14,038 and he has seen crazy things as well. 308 00:12:15,561 --> 00:12:16,819 Lebrija set up a meeting 309 00:12:16,844 --> 00:12:17,983 with a commercial pilot 310 00:12:18,128 --> 00:12:20,035 who spots bluefin tuna for fishermen 311 00:12:20,060 --> 00:12:22,249 between the Baja coast and Guadalupe. 312 00:12:23,565 --> 00:12:24,332 That's his plane. 313 00:12:24,442 --> 00:12:25,325 Beautiful. 314 00:12:25,852 --> 00:12:26,539 172? 315 00:12:26,564 --> 00:12:27,064 Yes. 316 00:12:27,348 --> 00:12:27,906 What year? 317 00:12:28,068 --> 00:12:29,391 Uh, '83? 318 00:12:29,577 --> 00:12:32,521 Wow, beautiful, beautiful bird. 319 00:12:33,074 --> 00:12:35,076 Adrian Ojeda has spent 18 years 320 00:12:35,101 --> 00:12:36,347 flying over these water. 321 00:12:36,778 --> 00:12:38,311 But it only took a few seconds 322 00:12:38,392 --> 00:12:40,536 to change everything he knew about aviation. 323 00:12:42,418 --> 00:12:43,642 Thank you again for your time 324 00:12:43,667 --> 00:12:45,667 and for your courage to come forward. 325 00:12:45,692 --> 00:12:47,486 Thank you, because this is something like 326 00:12:47,511 --> 00:12:49,551 I don't tell not too many people, 327 00:12:49,576 --> 00:12:52,502 because they think you're crazy or you're, you know. 328 00:12:52,816 --> 00:12:53,924 But so yeah. 329 00:12:53,997 --> 00:12:55,823 Please start from the beginning. 330 00:12:55,848 --> 00:12:57,846 It was January 30, 331 00:12:58,485 --> 00:12:59,737 2015, 332 00:13:00,066 --> 00:13:01,487 around three o'clock in the afternoon. 333 00:13:01,593 --> 00:13:02,526 This is the first time 334 00:13:02,551 --> 00:13:05,495 Ojeda has gone on record about the strange object he saw. 335 00:13:05,558 --> 00:13:09,643 So, it was coming around 23 miles south of Ensenada. 336 00:13:10,686 --> 00:13:13,389 On the afternoon of January 30th, 2015, 337 00:13:13,989 --> 00:13:15,928 Ojeda says he was flying over the Pacific 338 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,598 just 20 miles northeast from where 339 00:13:18,623 --> 00:13:20,710 two U.S. Navy pilots from the USS Nimitz 340 00:13:20,758 --> 00:13:23,896 intercepted a Tic Tac-shaped UFO 11 years earlier. 341 00:13:25,757 --> 00:13:28,280 Can you give me a rough understanding 342 00:13:28,305 --> 00:13:29,358 of size, 343 00:13:29,749 --> 00:13:30,296 shape, 344 00:13:30,816 --> 00:13:31,316 color? 345 00:13:31,415 --> 00:13:33,627 I thought at the beginning it was just a ball, 346 00:13:33,652 --> 00:13:37,066 but when it got so close, it was like this form. 347 00:13:37,216 --> 00:13:39,162 Did you notice if it had any windows? 348 00:13:39,661 --> 00:13:41,286 No. If it had wings? 349 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,684 No flight surfaces? 350 00:13:42,709 --> 00:13:44,779 No windows, no wings, no nothing. 351 00:13:45,234 --> 00:13:45,734 Smooth. 352 00:13:45,794 --> 00:13:47,380 Smooth and clean, yeah. 353 00:13:47,911 --> 00:13:49,789 Ojeda says the object moved erratically, 354 00:13:49,921 --> 00:13:51,929 unlike any aircraft he had ever seen. 355 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:53,944 When you see an airplane, it goes straight, you know? 356 00:13:53,969 --> 00:13:55,538 But this was kind of like chk, chk, chk. 357 00:13:55,810 --> 00:13:57,000 He also believes the object 358 00:13:57,277 --> 00:13:58,570 reacted to his presence. 359 00:13:59,311 --> 00:14:01,356 It was so far, when I just turned the lights, 360 00:14:01,459 --> 00:14:03,698 and as soon as I turned the lights, it was zoop. 361 00:14:04,123 --> 00:14:04,864 Right at you. 362 00:14:04,937 --> 00:14:05,552 Straight to me. 363 00:14:06,978 --> 00:14:07,600 So it was 364 00:14:07,803 --> 00:14:08,592 Very far away. 365 00:14:08,654 --> 00:14:11,217 Around 10 miles, yeah. 10 miles. 366 00:14:11,529 --> 00:14:12,779 And then you kick on the lights, 367 00:14:12,804 --> 00:14:13,951 and all of a sudden... 368 00:14:14,214 --> 00:14:14,772 Three seconds. 369 00:14:15,494 --> 00:14:16,866 Three seconds. Three, yeah. 370 00:14:16,932 --> 00:14:17,921 Zoop, like that. 371 00:14:18,303 --> 00:14:18,862 Fast. 372 00:14:19,312 --> 00:14:20,518 As he turned on his lights, 373 00:14:20,779 --> 00:14:22,640 Ojeda says the object flew straight at him 374 00:14:22,892 --> 00:14:24,450 at 12,000 miles an hour 375 00:14:25,047 --> 00:14:27,095 or more than 15 times the speed of sound. 376 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:29,359 This pilot really reinforced 377 00:14:29,384 --> 00:14:31,579 some of the observables that we've already noticed before. 378 00:14:32,943 --> 00:14:34,001 According to Elizondo, 379 00:14:34,026 --> 00:14:36,278 his secret Pentagon investigation cataloged 380 00:14:36,303 --> 00:14:39,192 a set of five incredible capabilities the UFOs shared. 381 00:14:39,826 --> 00:14:41,646 He calls them the observables. 382 00:14:41,736 --> 00:14:44,025 Instantaneous acceleration, 383 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:45,508 hypersonic velocities, 384 00:14:45,868 --> 00:14:47,461 just really bizarre behavior. 385 00:14:47,624 --> 00:14:48,985 Something that you would not expect 386 00:14:49,010 --> 00:14:51,157 a traditional aircraft to be able to do. 387 00:14:51,477 --> 00:14:54,057 Were there any other reports by any other pilots 388 00:14:54,082 --> 00:14:56,230 in the area that day of anything strange 389 00:14:56,255 --> 00:14:58,066 in the air that you're aware of? Not that I know. 390 00:14:58,613 --> 00:14:59,113 Okay. 391 00:14:59,473 --> 00:15:00,935 Was there ever a time prior to this 392 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,005 that you've seen anything that you considered unusual? 393 00:15:03,637 --> 00:15:05,269 Before that happened, no. 394 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,900 Okay. 395 00:15:05,972 --> 00:15:07,808 So everything you saw, you could identify, 396 00:15:08,049 --> 00:15:09,417 whether it was a satellite, a planet. 397 00:15:09,442 --> 00:15:09,948 Oh. 398 00:15:10,025 --> 00:15:11,159 But in general, you knew. Yes. 399 00:15:11,449 --> 00:15:12,557 You know what's in the sky. 400 00:15:12,603 --> 00:15:13,370 Yes, well I, I... 401 00:15:13,812 --> 00:15:15,324 Before I thought it was something there. 402 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:18,156 I mean, I didn't even know, I mean, um, 403 00:15:18,196 --> 00:15:19,508 I never got any experience. 404 00:15:19,730 --> 00:15:22,704 Before I was really excited to have an experience. 405 00:15:22,729 --> 00:15:23,425 Yeah, yeah. 406 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:25,917 But to tell you the truth, with that experience, 407 00:15:25,942 --> 00:15:27,551 I don't even want to have another one. 408 00:15:27,616 --> 00:15:31,734 What was your opinion of this before your experience? 409 00:15:31,852 --> 00:15:34,805 When you heard of other pilots or stories or... 410 00:15:35,017 --> 00:15:36,493 Well, I'm, I'm ah, 411 00:15:36,734 --> 00:15:41,234 ah, to me, I believe it, that something was there. 412 00:15:41,259 --> 00:15:44,515 I mean ah, all the proof's that you can see it around, 413 00:15:44,605 --> 00:15:47,401 but myself, I didn't see it before, for sure, 414 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:51,025 and I was kind of like oh, I hope I can see something. 415 00:15:51,315 --> 00:15:52,799 But it's different to see it right there. 416 00:15:52,824 --> 00:15:53,510 Oh, I can see. 417 00:15:53,542 --> 00:15:54,890 But the way it happens to me? 418 00:15:54,915 --> 00:15:56,142 It was kind of like, how to say, 419 00:15:56,375 --> 00:15:59,166 aggressive, and I feel like, oh. 420 00:15:59,438 --> 00:16:00,914 You know, I don't want to have 421 00:16:00,939 --> 00:16:03,228 any kind of experience like that because, like I said, yeah. 422 00:16:03,274 --> 00:16:03,774 No. 423 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:04,969 Yeah. 424 00:16:06,588 --> 00:16:07,986 Once this object came 425 00:16:08,861 --> 00:16:10,220 past your aircraft, 426 00:16:10,286 --> 00:16:11,923 and you performed evasive maneuvers. 427 00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:13,590 Then what? 428 00:16:13,758 --> 00:16:15,067 I know you were scared, frightened. 429 00:16:15,092 --> 00:16:15,739 What happened? 430 00:16:15,787 --> 00:16:18,973 Well, I just want to go away from this as fast as could. 431 00:16:19,736 --> 00:16:21,482 I don't want to see it anymore that way because 432 00:16:21,705 --> 00:16:22,205 Sure. 433 00:16:22,238 --> 00:16:23,696 it went past, and I look around, 434 00:16:23,917 --> 00:16:27,370 and I say oh I just shoo, wanna go. 435 00:16:27,883 --> 00:16:30,573 At first I was like surprised a bit, 436 00:16:30,701 --> 00:16:32,953 because it was, 437 00:16:33,773 --> 00:16:35,310 I couldn't even believe it myself, 438 00:16:35,343 --> 00:16:36,560 like what happened? 439 00:16:36,841 --> 00:16:37,786 That's really true? 440 00:16:38,114 --> 00:16:38,614 but... 441 00:16:41,148 --> 00:16:43,679 the way it happened and the way they act, 442 00:16:43,897 --> 00:16:46,882 I mean, if I didn't move the airplane, I wouldn't be here. 443 00:16:46,987 --> 00:16:48,253 That's why it scared me too much. 444 00:16:48,278 --> 00:16:50,604 I mean, Like I say, even right now, when I fly, 445 00:16:50,914 --> 00:16:53,448 if I see another thing, I don't even want to go even check. 446 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:55,069 I'm in international waters. 447 00:16:55,323 --> 00:16:57,336 Sometimes I see the carriers and the F-18s. 448 00:16:57,362 --> 00:16:59,585 I see those kinds of airplanes... 449 00:16:59,868 --> 00:17:01,384 And no way it was an aircraft. 450 00:17:02,081 --> 00:17:05,240 Ojeda's 2015 account has an eerie similarity 451 00:17:05,265 --> 00:17:07,786 to the U.S. Navy's 2004 Tic Tac incident. 452 00:17:08,327 --> 00:17:10,582 And all of a sudden it goes burp, and it kinda turns, 453 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,930 and we're like okay, now it knows we're here. 454 00:17:14,284 --> 00:17:15,664 It just rapidly accelerates 455 00:17:15,689 --> 00:17:17,265 beyond anything that I've ever seen, 456 00:17:17,673 --> 00:17:19,947 crosses my nose, and it's gone. 457 00:17:21,436 --> 00:17:22,460 Have the same craft 458 00:17:22,485 --> 00:17:24,400 been flying off the Baja coast for years? 459 00:17:28,802 --> 00:17:30,216 The Baja, California, peninsula 460 00:17:30,438 --> 00:17:33,387 is known across Mexico as a hotspot for UFO sightings. 461 00:17:40,849 --> 00:17:43,098 For decades, local fisherman have reported 462 00:17:43,123 --> 00:17:45,878 strange luminescent objects over the Pacific Ocean. 463 00:17:46,615 --> 00:17:47,988 It's our understanding 464 00:17:48,013 --> 00:17:49,230 that you may have seen something 465 00:17:49,255 --> 00:17:50,841 very interesting in the water. 466 00:17:50,932 --> 00:17:51,432 Sim. 467 00:17:51,457 --> 00:17:54,135 A very strong light illuminated us just like that. 468 00:17:54,565 --> 00:17:57,953 And in seconds it also just disappeared. 469 00:17:58,363 --> 00:17:59,339 Quickly. 470 00:17:59,464 --> 00:18:01,137 We saw a sort of sphere. 471 00:18:01,162 --> 00:18:04,002 It was a silver round shape, more or less. 472 00:18:05,011 --> 00:18:06,004 When we saw this light 473 00:18:06,029 --> 00:18:09,925 And then it disappeared, just like that. 474 00:18:10,128 --> 00:18:13,261 99% of all reported sightings 475 00:18:13,776 --> 00:18:15,674 have a rational explanation. 476 00:18:16,979 --> 00:18:19,330 Typically, these are things that are manmade 477 00:18:19,355 --> 00:18:21,273 or some sort of weather phenomena 478 00:18:21,298 --> 00:18:22,899 or atmospheric anomaly. 479 00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:26,680 So, it's imperative we keep a critical eye on every report. 480 00:18:27,534 --> 00:18:28,799 The fishermen may not be 481 00:18:28,824 --> 00:18:30,050 trained military observers, 482 00:18:30,754 --> 00:18:32,143 but they all have similar accounts 483 00:18:32,284 --> 00:18:35,307 of spherical objects flying in ways they can't explain. 484 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:36,668 Buenos dias. 485 00:18:37,038 --> 00:18:38,874 And one part of their story stands out. 486 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,038 We saw something that came down. 487 00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:44,202 It stopped. 488 00:18:44,429 --> 00:18:45,848 And suddenly it dove into the water. 489 00:18:45,873 --> 00:18:46,382 In the water? 490 00:18:46,407 --> 00:18:46,907 Yeah. 491 00:18:47,993 --> 00:18:49,993 Coming up on Unidentified. 492 00:18:50,018 --> 00:18:51,485 Where were you when you saw this? 493 00:18:51,829 --> 00:18:52,602 Guadalupe. 494 00:18:52,664 --> 00:18:53,430 Ilha de Guadalupe. 495 00:18:53,499 --> 00:18:54,633 Na ilha de Guadalupe. 496 00:18:54,751 --> 00:18:55,836 The fishermen have seen things 497 00:18:55,861 --> 00:18:58,117 coming out of the sky and hovering above the water 498 00:18:58,328 --> 00:18:59,765 and then splashing into the water. 499 00:19:00,758 --> 00:19:02,093 We gotta get out there. 500 00:19:12,632 --> 00:19:13,640 Good morning. 501 00:19:15,257 --> 00:19:17,623 Lue Elizondo and Sean Cahill are in Mexico 502 00:19:18,096 --> 00:19:20,616 investigating one of the most important UFO incidents 503 00:19:20,798 --> 00:19:22,249 in the history of the U.S. military, 504 00:19:23,114 --> 00:19:25,274 the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter. 505 00:19:27,347 --> 00:19:28,719 Very nice to meet you, sir, thank you. 506 00:19:29,208 --> 00:19:30,493 Thank you for your time. 507 00:19:30,579 --> 00:19:32,110 They're interviewing local fishermen 508 00:19:32,591 --> 00:19:35,586 who have seen strange things in the sky and under the water. 509 00:19:36,405 --> 00:19:38,069 From our understanding you may have 510 00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:39,459 some interesting information 511 00:19:39,881 --> 00:19:43,037 regarding strange things in or near the water. 512 00:19:43,326 --> 00:19:44,091 Lights. 513 00:19:44,974 --> 00:19:47,132 Lights that are under the water. 514 00:19:47,157 --> 00:19:47,904 Lights that came out 515 00:19:47,929 --> 00:19:48,866 but from the sea. 516 00:19:48,891 --> 00:19:50,889 Same thing, lights coming out of the water and moving. 517 00:19:51,801 --> 00:19:53,530 Fishermen have seen lights under the water, 518 00:19:53,935 --> 00:19:55,169 lights underneath their boat, 519 00:19:55,568 --> 00:19:57,068 things coming out of the sky 520 00:19:57,287 --> 00:19:59,059 and then floating and hovering above the water 521 00:19:59,379 --> 00:20:00,794 and then splashing into the water. 522 00:20:01,252 --> 00:20:02,986 I was struck by some of the similarities 523 00:20:03,115 --> 00:20:04,611 in particular with the Nimitz incident. 524 00:20:05,642 --> 00:20:06,884 In 2004, 525 00:20:07,086 --> 00:20:09,704 the Navy pilot who intercepted a Tic Tac-shaped UFO 526 00:20:09,884 --> 00:20:12,173 first saw churning water below the craft. 527 00:20:12,382 --> 00:20:13,220 My heart sank. 528 00:20:13,551 --> 00:20:14,834 There was something in the water. 529 00:20:15,332 --> 00:20:16,683 And a Navy radar technician 530 00:20:16,939 --> 00:20:18,956 says his ship tracked the Tic Tac-shaped object 531 00:20:19,356 --> 00:20:21,449 moving underwater at a high rate of speed. 532 00:20:21,843 --> 00:20:24,160 It went from 30,000 feet down to sea level, 533 00:20:24,429 --> 00:20:25,960 and sonar said they got a hit. 534 00:20:26,076 --> 00:20:27,786 They pretty much went wherever they wanted. 535 00:20:28,610 --> 00:20:30,123 The ability to seamlessly move 536 00:20:30,328 --> 00:20:31,718 through water, air, and space, 537 00:20:31,886 --> 00:20:33,585 known as trans-medium travel, 538 00:20:33,746 --> 00:20:35,167 is one of the five observables 539 00:20:35,335 --> 00:20:37,707 Elizondo's secret Pentagon program identified. 540 00:20:40,746 --> 00:20:43,191 These objects seem to be seen a lot 541 00:20:43,216 --> 00:20:44,652 around large bodies of water. 542 00:20:44,848 --> 00:20:45,676 Write it here. 543 00:20:46,269 --> 00:20:46,800 Please. 544 00:20:47,489 --> 00:20:48,613 These folks for the most part 545 00:20:48,638 --> 00:20:50,135 are not necessarily trained observers, 546 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,035 but they do know the oceans very well. 547 00:20:53,857 --> 00:20:55,840 And a lot of 'em are reporting some pretty interesting 548 00:20:55,865 --> 00:20:57,856 and in my opinion pretty compelling things. 549 00:20:58,816 --> 00:21:00,146 Looks like a Tic Tac, dude. 550 00:21:00,557 --> 00:21:02,932 Let me ask you, where were you when you saw this? 551 00:21:03,364 --> 00:21:04,145 Guadalupe. 552 00:21:04,170 --> 00:21:05,848 North point on Guadalupe island. 553 00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:06,676 Guadalupe island. 554 00:21:06,701 --> 00:21:07,926 At the island of Guadalupe. 555 00:21:08,723 --> 00:21:11,078 The fishermen all point toward one location, 556 00:21:12,067 --> 00:21:13,070 Guadalupe Island, 557 00:21:13,721 --> 00:21:15,445 where senior Navy radar specialist 558 00:21:15,470 --> 00:21:18,493 Kevin Day told Elizondo a fleet of UFOs 559 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:21,103 had disappeared off his radar in 2004. 560 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,689 Ensenada's right here. 561 00:21:22,689 --> 00:21:23,938 This is the bay right here. 562 00:21:24,601 --> 00:21:26,375 Okay, we've got Guadalupe down here. 563 00:21:26,985 --> 00:21:29,365 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 564 00:21:29,365 --> 00:21:31,911 eight, nine, ten, eleven different unique incidents. 565 00:21:32,048 --> 00:21:33,716 We've got some amazing data here. 566 00:21:33,973 --> 00:21:35,160 Definitely a hotspot. 567 00:21:35,894 --> 00:21:37,396 Guadalupe is calling us. 568 00:21:39,954 --> 00:21:41,808 Guadalupe lies 150 miles 569 00:21:41,833 --> 00:21:43,464 off the Baja, California, coast. 570 00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:46,294 The sparsely populated island 571 00:21:46,541 --> 00:21:48,544 is home to a Mexican military weather station 572 00:21:48,938 --> 00:21:50,367 and is surrounded by a restricted 573 00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:53,156 marine refuge area teeming with great white sharks. 574 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,524 The next logical step is to get out there 575 00:22:01,853 --> 00:22:04,102 and see for ourselves is there anything unique? 576 00:22:04,127 --> 00:22:05,681 Is there anything underneath the ocean? 577 00:22:05,706 --> 00:22:08,259 The topography, is there anything strange and weird? 578 00:22:08,791 --> 00:22:09,909 We've gotta get out there. 579 00:22:11,263 --> 00:22:12,474 I think by going to Guadalupe 580 00:22:12,499 --> 00:22:15,614 we stand to gain more clarity. 581 00:22:20,171 --> 00:22:22,062 Hopefully we can collect some good information. 582 00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:24,780 It matters what the facts and the data say. 583 00:22:25,268 --> 00:22:28,010 That's the pursuit, that's what drives me every single day. 584 00:22:30,494 --> 00:22:32,258 We'll probably do about six and a half knots. 585 00:22:32,283 --> 00:22:34,744 You're looking at 175 nautical miles 586 00:22:34,769 --> 00:22:35,799 out to where we need to be. 587 00:22:36,281 --> 00:22:38,611 It's gonna take us a good 25 hours to get out there. 588 00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:43,600 When was the last time you were in these waters? 589 00:22:44,022 --> 00:22:45,592 I have to do the math on it, 590 00:22:45,617 --> 00:22:47,373 but I was in these waters for a number of years, 591 00:22:47,579 --> 00:22:51,821 over the course of 2004 all the way to 2007 on and off. 592 00:22:51,969 --> 00:22:52,546 Wow. 593 00:22:52,639 --> 00:22:54,335 Yeah, this is where the United States Navy 594 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,765 on the West Coast does a great deal of their training. 595 00:22:58,274 --> 00:23:00,273 We've heard so much about this Guadalupe Island. 596 00:23:00,418 --> 00:23:03,180 I hope we get a chance to talk to as many people as we can. 597 00:23:03,205 --> 00:23:05,208 Talk to other fishermen, talk to anybody who's willing 598 00:23:05,233 --> 00:23:07,459 to come out and meet us and have a conversation. 599 00:23:08,184 --> 00:23:09,248 I kind of want to consider 600 00:23:09,273 --> 00:23:10,913 some of the information that we've picked up. 601 00:23:11,193 --> 00:23:13,849 We had circular, spherical objects described. 602 00:23:14,851 --> 00:23:17,177 I hesitate to say saucer, but a lenticular shape. 603 00:23:17,610 --> 00:23:18,458 We had luminous. 604 00:23:18,627 --> 00:23:19,617 Right. Objects, right? 605 00:23:19,642 --> 00:23:21,650 Different colors of luminosity. 606 00:23:21,675 --> 00:23:25,369 And we had objects that flew, objects that hovered, 607 00:23:25,456 --> 00:23:27,364 and objects that went into the water, 608 00:23:27,389 --> 00:23:30,404 and in some cases objects that came from the deep 609 00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,248 up to the surface of the water, i.e., rings of light. 610 00:23:35,529 --> 00:23:37,162 Unidentified submerged objects, 611 00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:38,849 known as USOs, 612 00:23:38,904 --> 00:23:40,434 have been reported around the world 613 00:23:40,459 --> 00:23:42,586 by civilians and military witnesses for decades. 614 00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:44,926 Allied warships taking part 615 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:47,246 NATO exercise mainbrace providing a formidable spectacle. 616 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:50,595 In 1952, military personnel 617 00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:53,494 taking part in a large-scale NATO exercise off Denmark 618 00:23:53,728 --> 00:23:55,377 reported seeing strange, round craft 619 00:23:55,402 --> 00:23:57,447 flying above and below the water. 620 00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:00,964 The incidents made international headlines, 621 00:24:01,495 --> 00:24:04,995 and ever since USOs have become part of UFO lore. 622 00:24:06,414 --> 00:24:09,124 We know that there is a geomagnetic anomaly 623 00:24:09,149 --> 00:24:12,024 just north of the island and it is significant. 624 00:24:12,671 --> 00:24:14,717 Adding to the mystery surrounding Guadalupe, 625 00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:17,208 a variation in the earth's magnetic field, 626 00:24:17,692 --> 00:24:19,161 known as a magnetic anomaly, 627 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,431 lies just off the island's northern coast. 628 00:24:22,204 --> 00:24:23,579 When you look at the map, 629 00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:26,774 there are no magnetic anomalies anywhere 630 00:24:26,962 --> 00:24:30,602 within hundreds and hundreds of miles of that island 631 00:24:30,634 --> 00:24:32,970 except two hotspots right north of the island. 632 00:24:33,497 --> 00:24:35,796 Could that have anything to do with what we're seeing? 633 00:24:35,851 --> 00:24:36,671 We don't know. 634 00:24:59,261 --> 00:25:03,051 I think we owe it to ourselves to collect more data. 635 00:25:03,076 --> 00:25:04,738 I think it's in our DNA to always 636 00:25:04,763 --> 00:25:06,175 search and find the truth, 637 00:25:06,528 --> 00:25:07,543 whatever that truth is. 638 00:25:09,192 --> 00:25:12,675 Lue was someone who had come into this issue 639 00:25:13,177 --> 00:25:15,107 very skeptical and came out of it 640 00:25:15,355 --> 00:25:17,350 almost a religious believer that wow, 641 00:25:17,375 --> 00:25:18,912 this stuff is really happening, 642 00:25:18,937 --> 00:25:21,083 these are really credible reports from pilots, 643 00:25:21,108 --> 00:25:23,373 from other people that are not wacky. 644 00:25:23,925 --> 00:25:27,456 He became someone who felt that it was his job 645 00:25:27,737 --> 00:25:29,612 to try and get more senior leaders 646 00:25:29,637 --> 00:25:31,144 in the Pentagon to pay attention to this, 647 00:25:31,169 --> 00:25:33,506 eventually maybe get the public to pay attention. 648 00:25:38,388 --> 00:25:39,098 That's amazing. 649 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:42,369 30 miles away you can see that thing. 650 00:25:43,193 --> 00:25:44,934 After 20 hours on the open water, 651 00:25:45,431 --> 00:25:46,946 Lue Elizondo and Sean Cahill 652 00:25:46,971 --> 00:25:48,473 have arrived at Guadalupe Island, 653 00:25:49,134 --> 00:25:50,930 where a U.S. Navy radar specialist 654 00:25:51,167 --> 00:25:53,104 reported a fleet of strange craft 655 00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:55,083 disappeared off his radar scopes 656 00:25:55,138 --> 00:25:57,987 during the 2004 USS Nimitz UFO event. 657 00:26:00,089 --> 00:26:02,089 This is the land that time forgot, for sure. 658 00:26:03,974 --> 00:26:05,066 Aw, it's just incredible. 659 00:26:07,756 --> 00:26:09,469 Guadalupe was formed millions of years ago, 660 00:26:09,494 --> 00:26:12,228 when two volcanoes erupted on the ocean floor. 661 00:26:13,491 --> 00:26:14,884 Today it's a marine refuge, 662 00:26:14,909 --> 00:26:16,369 and access is strictly controlled 663 00:26:16,394 --> 00:26:17,502 by the Mexican government. 664 00:26:19,275 --> 00:26:21,869 As foreigners, the team can't step foot on its shores. 665 00:26:26,059 --> 00:26:28,496 Good morning, sir. 666 00:26:29,066 --> 00:26:30,418 Hello. 667 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,393 But they've found a group of fishermen 668 00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:34,541 who seen things that cannot explain. 669 00:26:35,721 --> 00:26:37,909 We saw a circular light for a while... 670 00:26:37,934 --> 00:26:40,582 and all of a sudden it disappeared. 671 00:26:40,607 --> 00:26:41,801 How fast did it take off? 672 00:26:41,826 --> 00:26:43,161 Like a shooting star. 673 00:26:43,186 --> 00:26:43,686 Wow. 674 00:26:46,717 --> 00:26:48,927 The ball was there and it looked like... 675 00:26:48,959 --> 00:26:51,810 It looked like a golden ball. Like chrome. 676 00:26:51,835 --> 00:26:53,826 Now, you said it was kind of like a ball, 677 00:26:53,851 --> 00:26:54,702 like a chrome ball. 678 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,218 When it started to move, it moved like... 679 00:27:02,894 --> 00:27:03,628 A sphere. 680 00:27:03,715 --> 00:27:04,370 What color? 681 00:27:04,395 --> 00:27:04,933 White. 682 00:27:05,113 --> 00:27:06,785 Like an LED. Like an LED light. 683 00:27:13,034 --> 00:27:13,683 These fishermen 684 00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:15,530 had never heard of the Nimitz incident, 685 00:27:15,555 --> 00:27:18,370 but their accounts are similar to the U.S. Navy witnesses. 686 00:27:20,483 --> 00:27:21,875 When you come back from fishing, 687 00:27:21,907 --> 00:27:23,313 and someone sees something like this, 688 00:27:23,338 --> 00:27:26,008 do they make fun of the person when they tell the story? 689 00:27:28,237 --> 00:27:30,866 Also the people have seen strange things happening, 690 00:27:30,891 --> 00:27:32,828 so they take it very seriously. 691 00:27:34,137 --> 00:27:35,086 The fishermen take them 692 00:27:35,111 --> 00:27:36,929 to the island's rocky north coast, 693 00:27:37,237 --> 00:27:38,806 where most of the sightings have occurred. 694 00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:41,432 It's also where a magnetic anomaly 695 00:27:42,128 --> 00:27:43,304 lies deep under the ocean. 696 00:27:44,883 --> 00:27:46,427 Ah, ha ha. 697 00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:47,487 Wow. 698 00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:50,336 I've never seen anything like this. 699 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,649 Elizondo and Cahill 700 00:27:58,674 --> 00:28:00,337 want to know if the strange sightings 701 00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:02,678 could have a scientific explanation. 702 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,794 How are you? 703 00:28:10,543 --> 00:28:13,622 Mauricio Hoyos is a world-renowned marine biologist. 704 00:28:14,186 --> 00:28:15,487 We know your time is valuable. 705 00:28:15,512 --> 00:28:17,449 Thank you very much for spending it with us. 706 00:28:18,255 --> 00:28:20,300 Hoyos has been studying great white sharks 707 00:28:20,325 --> 00:28:22,745 on Guadalupe for over 15 years 708 00:28:23,905 --> 00:28:25,264 and documented what is believed to be 709 00:28:25,289 --> 00:28:28,147 the largest great white ever captured on film. 710 00:28:31,568 --> 00:28:33,497 We are here because several people 711 00:28:33,522 --> 00:28:35,450 have reported very interesting phenomena 712 00:28:35,846 --> 00:28:37,803 in the sky and even underwater, 713 00:28:38,382 --> 00:28:41,311 and we wanted to get your scientific knowledge 714 00:28:41,336 --> 00:28:42,295 of these waters. 715 00:28:42,841 --> 00:28:45,403 Well, Guadalupe is a very important place. 716 00:28:45,490 --> 00:28:46,718 Actually, it's the best place 717 00:28:46,743 --> 00:28:48,006 to see white sharks in the world. 718 00:28:48,031 --> 00:28:50,404 The visibility of the water, it's more than a hundred feet. 719 00:28:50,429 --> 00:28:52,101 Oh wow. And sometimes you get to see 720 00:28:52,126 --> 00:28:53,960 more than 33 sharks in one day. 721 00:28:55,229 --> 00:28:57,032 How come that these white sharks 722 00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,478 can find this island in the middle of nowhere? 723 00:28:59,619 --> 00:29:01,200 And we think that they have these sensors, 724 00:29:01,225 --> 00:29:02,778 they are called the ampullae of Lorenzini, 725 00:29:02,803 --> 00:29:04,716 and they can detect the electromagnetic field 726 00:29:04,741 --> 00:29:05,544 of the earth, 727 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:07,513 so we think that they use that in order to get here. 728 00:29:08,453 --> 00:29:10,184 Hoyos believes great white sharks 729 00:29:10,246 --> 00:29:13,084 have a special ability to detect electromagnetic signals, 730 00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:15,660 which helps them migrate to the island each year. 731 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:18,771 One of the captains, 732 00:29:18,796 --> 00:29:20,297 and he told me that every time 733 00:29:20,533 --> 00:29:21,865 that they are coming to Guadalupe, 734 00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:24,150 he can see that the compass is moving awkward. 735 00:29:24,675 --> 00:29:25,439 That's interesting. 736 00:29:26,152 --> 00:29:28,722 Is there bioluminescence in these waters? 737 00:29:28,971 --> 00:29:30,822 Yep. They're actually very close to the shore. 738 00:29:31,172 --> 00:29:33,091 Bioluminescence is a natural phenomenon 739 00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:34,974 found in oceans all over the world. 740 00:29:35,498 --> 00:29:37,437 It occurs when a chemical reaction in sea life 741 00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:38,279 emits light. 742 00:29:38,898 --> 00:29:41,498 Could this explain the luminescent objects in the water 743 00:29:41,689 --> 00:29:43,304 the fishermen of Guadalupe are seeing? 744 00:29:43,716 --> 00:29:45,805 Okay, so do you ever see 745 00:29:45,889 --> 00:29:48,536 bioluminescence in circular patterns, 746 00:29:48,762 --> 00:29:50,894 almost like a spotlight coming out of the water? 747 00:29:50,919 --> 00:29:51,419 No. 748 00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:54,160 You have a small submersible, right? 749 00:29:54,185 --> 00:29:56,010 So there's lights on it, I'm sure, for navigation? 750 00:29:56,035 --> 00:29:56,535 Yes. 751 00:29:56,732 --> 00:29:58,189 Could fishermen around the island 752 00:29:58,214 --> 00:30:01,362 mistake your submersible for a light under the water? 753 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,291 We have had submersibles, just in 2008, 754 00:30:04,612 --> 00:30:06,292 and I need a special permit for that. 755 00:30:06,317 --> 00:30:08,785 If the submersible is here, the big boat has to be here. 756 00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:10,590 Okay, so you have a boat nearby. 757 00:30:10,615 --> 00:30:13,075 So it's not isolated out in the middle of the ocean. No, exactly. 758 00:30:13,202 --> 00:30:14,310 According to Hoyos, 759 00:30:14,657 --> 00:30:16,305 there is nothing he knows that can explain 760 00:30:16,664 --> 00:30:18,304 what the fishermen of Guadalupe are seeing. 761 00:30:18,827 --> 00:30:21,188 You are a scientist and trained observer. 762 00:30:21,927 --> 00:30:23,858 In our book, that's as good as it gets. 763 00:30:24,051 --> 00:30:25,547 So hearing from you, 764 00:30:25,572 --> 00:30:27,852 anything that you'd be willing to share with us, 765 00:30:27,929 --> 00:30:29,245 would be immensely important. 766 00:30:29,466 --> 00:30:31,733 Is there anything you have seen that has been unusual? 767 00:30:33,352 --> 00:30:33,852 Yeah. 768 00:30:34,909 --> 00:30:37,871 And I thought that it was a hallucination, 769 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,269 but my captain and I, we saw the same thing. 770 00:30:54,293 --> 00:30:55,871 We have lots of reports 771 00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:57,394 from fishermen around the island. 772 00:30:57,685 --> 00:30:59,457 Is there anything that you have seen 773 00:30:59,482 --> 00:31:00,685 that has been unusual? 774 00:31:00,843 --> 00:31:04,435 Yeah, and I thought that it was a hallucination, 775 00:31:04,845 --> 00:31:06,851 but my captain and I, we saw the same thing. 776 00:31:07,357 --> 00:31:08,852 Lue Elizondo and Sean Cahill 777 00:31:09,099 --> 00:31:11,313 are more than a hundred miles off the coast of Mexico, 778 00:31:11,712 --> 00:31:14,411 where a fleet of UFOs fell of U.S. Navy radar 779 00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:16,868 during the USS Nimitz incident in 2004. 780 00:31:18,164 --> 00:31:19,601 In 2006, 781 00:31:20,492 --> 00:31:23,499 we started to track white sharks for 24 hours. 782 00:31:24,061 --> 00:31:25,730 Marine biologist Mauricio Hoyos 783 00:31:26,239 --> 00:31:28,748 has spent years collecting data on great white sharks, 784 00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:33,200 but he can't explain what he saw early one morning in 2006. 785 00:31:33,765 --> 00:31:36,046 It was like 6 a.m., and we were coming to the north, 786 00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:37,991 and then I saw in that mountain, 787 00:31:38,661 --> 00:31:40,991 I saw a little light, like a little sphere. 788 00:31:41,657 --> 00:31:43,121 I thought that it was a star. 789 00:31:44,037 --> 00:31:46,121 But suddenly it, shoop, it moved. 790 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,239 I thought oh my God, I didn't sleep, 791 00:31:49,264 --> 00:31:51,169 and maybe I am looking something that is not real. 792 00:31:51,553 --> 00:31:53,373 And then my captain asked me did you see that? 793 00:31:54,215 --> 00:31:56,200 Could you actually see an object, 794 00:31:56,225 --> 00:31:58,465 or was it more the light that you could see? 795 00:31:58,490 --> 00:32:00,004 It was a very bright object. 796 00:32:00,037 --> 00:32:01,012 It was like a sphere. 797 00:32:01,037 --> 00:32:02,044 I mean a perfect sphere. 798 00:32:02,069 --> 00:32:03,544 In like maybe two seconds, shoop. 799 00:32:03,874 --> 00:32:04,404 Two seconds. 800 00:32:04,429 --> 00:32:05,748 Two seconds, we didn't see anything. 801 00:32:05,811 --> 00:32:06,998 So it didn't just disappear. 802 00:32:07,023 --> 00:32:07,771 It moved. No. 803 00:32:07,796 --> 00:32:08,466 It moved, yeah. 804 00:32:08,491 --> 00:32:09,762 A definite sense of movement, okay. 805 00:32:09,787 --> 00:32:10,755 Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. 806 00:32:10,787 --> 00:32:11,693 Very, very fast. Yeah. 807 00:32:12,984 --> 00:32:14,140 I know time is limited, 808 00:32:14,165 --> 00:32:15,437 sun's going to be going down, 809 00:32:15,698 --> 00:32:17,235 don't want to take much more of your time. 810 00:32:17,635 --> 00:32:18,993 You've been super, super helpful. 811 00:32:19,475 --> 00:32:20,368 Doctor, thanks very much. 812 00:32:20,393 --> 00:32:21,141 You're very welcome. 813 00:32:21,244 --> 00:32:23,064 It has been an absolute pleasure, thank you. 814 00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:28,389 It's amazing. 815 00:32:29,418 --> 00:32:30,712 As far back as 2009, 816 00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,310 the Pacific Ocean off Baja, California, 817 00:32:33,584 --> 00:32:35,857 was identified by Elizondo's Pentagon program 818 00:32:36,294 --> 00:32:38,920 as part of a global pattern of UFO hotspots. 819 00:32:39,703 --> 00:32:41,121 After days on the open water, 820 00:32:41,374 --> 00:32:43,288 interviewing multiple civilian witnesses, 821 00:32:43,764 --> 00:32:45,296 Elizondo now has evidence 822 00:32:45,321 --> 00:32:47,439 of a continuing UFO presence in the area. 823 00:32:48,008 --> 00:32:51,109 The trip to Guadalupe Island was very well worthwhile. 824 00:32:52,024 --> 00:32:54,751 The eyewitness testimony from folks from the Nimits. 825 00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:56,415 He just rapidly accelerates 826 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,932 beyond anything that I've ever seen, 827 00:32:58,142 --> 00:32:58,719 and it's gone. 828 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:00,181 Was corroborated by civilians. 829 00:33:02,419 --> 00:33:04,949 So, between Guadalupe Island and Ensenada 830 00:33:05,419 --> 00:33:06,988 seems to be a real hotspot. 831 00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:08,864 When you look at the data, 832 00:33:08,889 --> 00:33:10,686 the Nimitz was not an isolated event. 833 00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:12,225 In fact, the Nimitz may have 834 00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:14,320 just happened to trip over one of these hotspots 835 00:33:14,345 --> 00:33:16,109 when they were doing their maneuvers out there. 836 00:33:16,285 --> 00:33:18,063 It's one of the pieces to the puzzle. 837 00:33:20,217 --> 00:33:23,354 But we would be remiss if we consider it the whole puzzle. 838 00:33:23,379 --> 00:33:23,920 It's not. 839 00:33:28,222 --> 00:33:29,527 The mission to Guadalupe Island 840 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,137 provided valuable new information. 841 00:33:32,023 --> 00:33:33,403 But for Elizondo and Cahill, 842 00:33:33,670 --> 00:33:35,137 the journey was also personal. 843 00:33:35,365 --> 00:33:38,030 Being part of that incident on the USS Nimitz, 844 00:33:38,055 --> 00:33:41,607 and now being here 14 years later, right, it's time. 845 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,121 Talk about a closed case. 846 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:46,199 What is like? 847 00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:48,454 I gotta be honest with you, man. 848 00:33:48,798 --> 00:33:50,508 I do get why people don't come forward. 849 00:33:50,533 --> 00:33:52,004 Because it's isolating. 850 00:33:52,637 --> 00:33:54,517 There were 5,000 people on Nimitz. 851 00:33:55,302 --> 00:33:57,544 How many people saw it and aren't willing to come forward? 852 00:33:58,645 --> 00:33:59,551 I know what I saw. 853 00:33:59,648 --> 00:34:01,562 Even if I don't now what it is, I know I saw it. 854 00:34:02,026 --> 00:34:03,752 It was on tape, it was on radar. 855 00:34:03,777 --> 00:34:05,072 I mean, that boosts me. 856 00:34:07,973 --> 00:34:09,238 We don't have all the answers yet. 857 00:34:09,345 --> 00:34:09,913 Yeah. 858 00:34:10,342 --> 00:34:11,788 But we know it's real. 859 00:34:13,516 --> 00:34:15,203 This had affected Sean profoundly. 860 00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:17,581 He didn't talk about it much, 861 00:34:17,606 --> 00:34:19,031 because quite frankly he thought people 862 00:34:19,056 --> 00:34:20,696 were going to look at him like he was crazy. 863 00:34:21,793 --> 00:34:23,699 Do you know what it's like to serve your country, 864 00:34:23,724 --> 00:34:25,020 to swear an oath of loyalty, 865 00:34:25,459 --> 00:34:28,067 only to have someone come out and say you're crazy? 866 00:34:30,384 --> 00:34:31,103 You know, fuck you. 867 00:34:35,141 --> 00:34:37,047 I've spent my life living in the shadows. 868 00:34:37,630 --> 00:34:39,781 I've put myself out there, voluntarily, 869 00:34:40,641 --> 00:34:42,356 so I've got no one to blame but me. 870 00:34:43,236 --> 00:34:46,275 I have people who question my credibility at every turn. 871 00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:49,258 I want so badly to show people 872 00:34:49,283 --> 00:34:50,817 what I've seen and what I know. 873 00:34:51,655 --> 00:34:52,311 But I can't, 874 00:34:52,336 --> 00:34:54,046 'cause I have a nondisclosure agreement 875 00:34:54,071 --> 00:34:55,023 with the U.S. government. 876 00:34:56,717 --> 00:34:59,594 It's very frustrating for me, because I know this is real. 877 00:35:04,925 --> 00:35:07,381 When you look at some of the other incidents over time 878 00:35:07,406 --> 00:35:08,773 that we've collected back in AATIP, 879 00:35:08,890 --> 00:35:11,346 we continue to see the same pattern 880 00:35:11,371 --> 00:35:12,780 over and over and over again. 881 00:35:12,805 --> 00:35:14,547 Elizondo is back in the States, 882 00:35:14,815 --> 00:35:16,547 briefing the team on his trip to Mexico. 883 00:35:16,779 --> 00:35:19,297 More people are bringing information and cases to us, 884 00:35:19,883 --> 00:35:21,567 military and civilian people, 885 00:35:21,592 --> 00:35:24,481 and I think this kind of data and information 886 00:35:24,887 --> 00:35:26,623 is beginning to make a difference 887 00:35:26,648 --> 00:35:27,764 as we're bringing it forward. 888 00:35:27,836 --> 00:35:28,991 As former Deputy Assistant 889 00:35:29,016 --> 00:35:31,023 Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, 890 00:35:31,202 --> 00:35:33,335 Chris Mellon knows how difficult it is 891 00:35:33,618 --> 00:35:35,412 for military personnel to come forward 892 00:35:35,437 --> 00:35:37,186 with stories of UFO encounters. 893 00:35:37,382 --> 00:35:38,874 Those people in the military 894 00:35:39,158 --> 00:35:41,208 at these lower-level operational ranks 895 00:35:41,233 --> 00:35:42,835 are also swimming upstream, 896 00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:45,330 trying to get people's attention and say 897 00:35:45,355 --> 00:35:47,494 hey we've got a genuine issue here, people. 898 00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:48,392 We need to take action. 899 00:35:48,921 --> 00:35:51,173 And I'm delighted that we're able to 900 00:35:51,762 --> 00:35:53,084 assist them in doing that. 901 00:35:53,926 --> 00:35:55,769 But it's not only the military personnel 902 00:35:55,794 --> 00:35:58,019 involved in the incidents who have been silenced. 903 00:35:58,058 --> 00:36:00,105 I would much rather put this behind me, 904 00:36:00,130 --> 00:36:02,651 but the problem is I've seen too much. 905 00:36:03,134 --> 00:36:04,417 I've talked to too many people. 906 00:36:04,847 --> 00:36:05,923 I have too many reports. 907 00:36:06,018 --> 00:36:07,204 I know it's real. 908 00:36:07,335 --> 00:36:08,533 I can't in good conscience 909 00:36:08,686 --> 00:36:10,373 just keep my head buried in the sand. 910 00:36:10,539 --> 00:36:12,475 I had to leave the very job that I love 911 00:36:13,845 --> 00:36:14,788 to get my point across. 912 00:36:17,861 --> 00:36:20,611 The trip to Mexico was a bit of a revelation for us. 913 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,058 Certainly when I was in AATIP 914 00:36:23,083 --> 00:36:25,642 there was no way I would have been able to go into a foreign country 915 00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:27,313 and start asking questions about this thing. 916 00:36:27,338 --> 00:36:29,136 There's no way that would have happened. 917 00:36:30,176 --> 00:36:31,720 Lue Elizondo has new evidence 918 00:36:32,008 --> 00:36:34,144 that he believes confirms an ominous pattern. 919 00:36:34,397 --> 00:36:36,776 The Pacific Ocean off Southern California and Mexico 920 00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:39,092 is a hotspot for unidentified craft 921 00:36:39,451 --> 00:36:40,771 with incredible capabilities. 922 00:36:41,243 --> 00:36:42,271 If it's okay with you, 923 00:36:42,296 --> 00:36:44,662 I'm gonna go ahead and provide you his information. 924 00:36:45,075 --> 00:36:46,116 The newfound freedom 925 00:36:46,203 --> 00:36:48,054 to bring information directly to the public 926 00:36:48,657 --> 00:36:50,125 is a victory for Elizondo. 927 00:36:50,933 --> 00:36:53,009 AATIP had a small group of allies, 928 00:36:53,313 --> 00:36:55,496 but equally there was a small group of people 929 00:36:55,496 --> 00:37:00,215 who were diametrically opposed and became increasingly vocal 930 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:01,893 about their opposition to what we were doing. 931 00:37:01,949 --> 00:37:03,520 Elizondo spent 10 years 932 00:37:03,856 --> 00:37:06,597 studying reports of military encounters with UFOs. 933 00:37:07,129 --> 00:37:08,270 What is that? 934 00:37:09,762 --> 00:37:10,988 But according to Elizondo, 935 00:37:11,123 --> 00:37:13,654 getting anyone inside the Pentagon to pay any attention 936 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,582 to what he was finding was a daily struggle. 937 00:37:18,204 --> 00:37:19,790 All right, sound is speeding. 938 00:37:22,376 --> 00:37:23,579 This intelligence officer 939 00:37:23,604 --> 00:37:25,610 worked closely with Elizondo at the Pentagon 940 00:37:25,903 --> 00:37:27,985 and saw first hand the challenges he faced. 941 00:37:28,173 --> 00:37:29,899 When I found out Lue was resigning 942 00:37:29,924 --> 00:37:31,954 I was personally very upset. 943 00:37:31,993 --> 00:37:33,134 This is my... 944 00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:35,548 friend. My coworker. A mentor. 945 00:37:35,573 --> 00:37:37,174 Somebody that I truly believed in. 946 00:37:37,509 --> 00:37:38,705 Because she continues to work 947 00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:39,996 for the Department of Defense, 948 00:37:40,146 --> 00:37:41,535 she wants to remain anonymous. 949 00:37:42,644 --> 00:37:45,176 Lue sees things in patterns. 950 00:37:45,201 --> 00:37:48,207 And he sees the analytic piece behind 951 00:37:48,232 --> 00:37:49,855 putting all of this puzzle together. 952 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,684 And what the various outcomes could be. 953 00:37:52,614 --> 00:37:54,732 Unfortunately, he had to work through 954 00:37:54,757 --> 00:37:56,122 layers of bureaucracy 955 00:37:56,147 --> 00:37:57,646 that you would read about in 956 00:37:57,671 --> 00:37:58,833 1960s Russia. 957 00:37:59,702 --> 00:38:01,366 It doesn't matter what administration it is. 958 00:38:01,391 --> 00:38:03,335 It doesn't matter who's in charge. 959 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,483 It's just... 960 00:38:04,508 --> 00:38:07,164 "Oh, this is going to get very messy very quickly." 961 00:38:07,189 --> 00:38:09,399 "I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass it along." 962 00:38:09,424 --> 00:38:11,978 The government, I believe, doesn't know what to do. 963 00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:14,619 They don't know how to address this. 964 00:38:14,644 --> 00:38:17,150 Help us understand, how is that the people 965 00:38:17,175 --> 00:38:19,978 who are entrusted with some of the most dangerous missions... 966 00:38:20,003 --> 00:38:23,503 When they write a report, that is not taken seriously? 967 00:38:23,528 --> 00:38:24,878 If you're... 968 00:38:24,903 --> 00:38:28,128 persuing this, and very vocal, and very public about it 969 00:38:28,153 --> 00:38:29,333 you won't have a career 970 00:38:29,358 --> 00:38:30,372 And that's been... 971 00:38:31,169 --> 00:38:31,724 stated. 972 00:38:31,749 --> 00:38:32,638 It's been proven. 973 00:38:32,663 --> 00:38:34,481 There is no question that it's dangerous. 974 00:38:34,506 --> 00:38:37,122 Are you scared yourself... 975 00:38:37,147 --> 00:38:40,701 about your own career and your own proximity to this issue? 976 00:38:42,413 --> 00:38:43,741 Not going to answer that question. 977 00:38:45,128 --> 00:38:46,338 Fear of being called crazy 978 00:38:46,338 --> 00:38:47,522 wasn't the only roadblock 979 00:38:47,547 --> 00:38:50,202 to getting Pentagon leadership to care about the issue. 980 00:38:51,304 --> 00:38:52,742 Some officials that I talked to 981 00:38:52,767 --> 00:38:55,163 told me that they thought there was resistance 982 00:38:55,188 --> 00:38:57,718 in the Pentagon on religious grounds, 983 00:38:57,932 --> 00:38:59,343 that effectively you had some 984 00:38:59,368 --> 00:39:02,843 senior officers who were Christians, 985 00:39:03,438 --> 00:39:04,352 who thought looking into 986 00:39:04,377 --> 00:39:07,079 this kind of voodoo stuff was dangerous. 987 00:39:07,854 --> 00:39:09,978 I was pulled into the office of one of these seniors. 988 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,649 The senior looked at me in the eye and said 989 00:39:11,674 --> 00:39:12,993 "I want this program to stop." 990 00:39:13,624 --> 00:39:16,548 I said well, okay, but what's the rationale? 991 00:39:17,425 --> 00:39:20,772 He said well, what you're looking at 992 00:39:20,797 --> 00:39:22,825 is something that is a demonic presence. 993 00:39:23,425 --> 00:39:25,220 There's a faction in the government, 994 00:39:25,245 --> 00:39:26,369 high up in the Pentagon, 995 00:39:26,394 --> 00:39:29,166 of religious fundamentalists who are concerned 996 00:39:29,191 --> 00:39:31,627 that anything paranormal or supernatural 997 00:39:32,050 --> 00:39:33,552 is demonic in origin, 998 00:39:33,577 --> 00:39:35,997 that flying saucers represent demons, 999 00:39:36,022 --> 00:39:36,974 that if you study this, 1000 00:39:37,082 --> 00:39:39,910 you're inviting the devil and Satan into your world. 1001 00:39:43,225 --> 00:39:44,537 You're telling me to ignore it 1002 00:39:44,597 --> 00:39:47,373 because it goes against your philosophical belief system. 1003 00:39:48,753 --> 00:39:50,753 Well, that's the same shit I faced in Afghanistan 1004 00:39:50,823 --> 00:39:51,713 and in the Middle East. 1005 00:39:52,216 --> 00:39:53,041 There's no difference. 1006 00:39:53,066 --> 00:39:54,485 Only you're wearing a three-piece suit, 1007 00:39:54,623 --> 00:39:56,107 and they're carrying a Kalashnikov. 1008 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:57,120 So.. 1009 00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:59,787 I couldn't believe what I was hearing. 1010 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,541 Elizondo says his superiors' religious beliefs 1011 00:40:02,566 --> 00:40:04,469 hindered his mission to get the government 1012 00:40:04,494 --> 00:40:05,907 to take UFOs seriously. 1013 00:40:07,357 --> 00:40:09,235 But he and other government insiders, 1014 00:40:09,235 --> 00:40:11,921 including former presidential advisor John Podesta, 1015 00:40:12,281 --> 00:40:14,483 believe the larger political culture is to blame. 1016 00:40:15,249 --> 00:40:18,030 There's a natural tendency to just kind of 1017 00:40:18,531 --> 00:40:22,421 sweep the question away and to avoid the taboo. 1018 00:40:23,311 --> 00:40:25,569 We've created a culture where you really can't 1019 00:40:26,071 --> 00:40:29,420 do what any scientist would want to do, 1020 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:31,621 any skeptic in the best sense of the word, 1021 00:40:31,646 --> 00:40:33,714 saying well, maybe we ought to know about it. 1022 00:40:35,826 --> 00:40:37,100 So imagine this for a moment. 1023 00:40:37,543 --> 00:40:41,639 Your job is to give the boss recommended solutions. 1024 00:40:42,835 --> 00:40:44,538 Imagine going now to the boss. 1025 00:40:45,251 --> 00:40:48,686 Sir, we have something, we don't know what it is, 1026 00:40:48,898 --> 00:40:50,235 we don't know how it works, 1027 00:40:50,459 --> 00:40:51,897 we don't know who's behind the wheel, 1028 00:40:52,279 --> 00:40:53,866 we don't know what their intentions are, 1029 00:40:53,891 --> 00:40:56,091 and by the way, there's not a damn thing we can do about it. 1030 00:40:56,734 --> 00:40:59,984 By 2017, Elizondo had become so concerned, 1031 00:41:00,190 --> 00:41:01,695 that whatever these craft were, 1032 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,015 the U.S. military had no way to defend itself 1033 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,501 against their advanced technology. 1034 00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:08,149 So he tried to send a warning up the chain of command. 1035 00:41:08,484 --> 00:41:11,468 I realized that none of the information 1036 00:41:11,493 --> 00:41:14,296 and developments that we had in our program in AATIP 1037 00:41:14,781 --> 00:41:17,977 was being communicated to the Secretary of Defense. 1038 00:41:19,433 --> 00:41:21,269 Elizondo believed the threat was so great, 1039 00:41:21,616 --> 00:41:24,316 that it required the attention of then-Secretary of Defense 1040 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:25,652 James Mattis. 1041 00:41:26,251 --> 00:41:29,381 There are five people I can count on this hand 1042 00:41:30,219 --> 00:41:33,118 that if they were to call me at four o'clock in the morning, 1043 00:41:33,937 --> 00:41:36,055 I would put my boots on and I'd go to war with them. 1044 00:41:37,533 --> 00:41:38,994 Secretary Mattis is number one. 1045 00:41:39,522 --> 00:41:41,705 He is truly one of the greatest Americans 1046 00:41:41,730 --> 00:41:44,838 I've ever had the honor and pleasure to serve with and for. 1047 00:41:45,308 --> 00:41:46,644 Despite being one of the military's 1048 00:41:46,669 --> 00:41:48,940 most experienced counterintelligence operatives, 1049 00:41:49,454 --> 00:41:51,660 even fighting alongside Mattis in Afghanistan 1050 00:41:51,725 --> 00:41:53,129 in the months after 9/11, 1051 00:41:53,288 --> 00:41:54,904 every attempt to get a meeting 1052 00:41:54,929 --> 00:41:56,951 with the Secretary of Defense was thwarted. 1053 00:41:57,125 --> 00:41:59,232 In this particular case you had a lot of people 1054 00:41:59,257 --> 00:42:01,135 that were worried about their political careers. 1055 00:42:01,935 --> 00:42:03,036 I attended some meetings 1056 00:42:03,061 --> 00:42:04,270 that Lue was present at, 1057 00:42:04,295 --> 00:42:05,685 trying to see how I could be helpful, 1058 00:42:05,722 --> 00:42:08,169 and this actually led to meetings with these 1059 00:42:08,194 --> 00:42:10,365 senior people who were very close to General Mattis, 1060 00:42:10,643 --> 00:42:11,878 and they were very sympathetic, 1061 00:42:11,903 --> 00:42:13,744 but they did not see a way ahead. 1062 00:42:13,769 --> 00:42:15,808 They did not see how they could get this 1063 00:42:15,833 --> 00:42:18,534 by the praetorian guard around the secretary. 1064 00:42:19,028 --> 00:42:20,495 This is a man who's responsible 1065 00:42:20,594 --> 00:42:22,660 for the safety and security of our country. 1066 00:42:23,124 --> 00:42:26,355 And if you don't give him the information he needs, 1067 00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:27,499 that is ammunition, 1068 00:42:27,895 --> 00:42:29,436 in order for him to make a right decision. 1069 00:42:30,313 --> 00:42:31,678 Despite our best efforts, 1070 00:42:31,703 --> 00:42:34,246 we were not successful in actually getting this issue 1071 00:42:34,271 --> 00:42:35,504 in front of the secretary 1072 00:42:35,529 --> 00:42:38,763 and letting him evaluate the evidence himself. 1073 00:42:39,817 --> 00:42:41,325 We've got a problem internally. 1074 00:42:41,543 --> 00:42:42,795 We've got blinders on. 1075 00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:44,323 And if we've got blinders on, baby, 1076 00:42:45,994 --> 00:42:47,371 you're gonna get blindsided. 1077 00:42:48,448 --> 00:42:50,151 On the next Unidentified. 1078 00:42:50,948 --> 00:42:52,713 There's a whole fleet of them, look on the ASA. 1079 00:42:52,875 --> 00:42:54,464 You know those voices? I know those guys. 1080 00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:55,727 We're just trying to figure out 1081 00:42:55,752 --> 00:42:57,228 what were the objects that we saw. 1082 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,641 I've always kind of been somewhat skeptical. 1083 00:42:59,747 --> 00:43:01,963 I'm a lot more convinced now. 1084 00:43:02,123 --> 00:43:04,441 These vehicles do exist. 1085 00:43:04,466 --> 00:43:06,622 It was basically a cube inside a sphere. 1086 00:43:07,398 --> 00:43:09,270 Over 60 people have seen these things. 1087 00:43:09,406 --> 00:43:11,124 If people in the D.C. area knew 1088 00:43:11,164 --> 00:43:14,046 within minutes of their location 1089 00:43:14,147 --> 00:43:16,443 these unidentified vehicles are operating, 1090 00:43:16,468 --> 00:43:17,476 I think they would say 1091 00:43:17,501 --> 00:43:19,343 isn't this something we ought to pay attention to?