1 00:00:00,973 --> 00:00:01,917 Congratulations. 2 00:00:01,941 --> 00:00:03,752 He's been charged, that fella you tipped us off about. 3 00:00:03,776 --> 00:00:04,620 Have you not heard? 4 00:00:04,644 --> 00:00:06,488 Apparently another body's turned up. 5 00:00:06,512 --> 00:00:08,790 I bet he'd love to see you. 6 00:00:08,814 --> 00:00:11,659 I wondered about writing to him. 7 00:00:11,683 --> 00:00:12,528 You should. 8 00:00:12,552 --> 00:00:14,462 Couple of weeks ago, that new Miss Wealand 9 00:00:14,486 --> 00:00:16,531 asking Ryan questions about his dad. 10 00:00:16,555 --> 00:00:17,366 What's the matter? 11 00:00:17,390 --> 00:00:18,367 It's her. 12 00:00:18,391 --> 00:00:19,467 I've done things. 13 00:00:19,491 --> 00:00:20,835 Is it to do with those women? 14 00:00:20,859 --> 00:00:22,871 You'll visit me, won't you, in prison? 15 00:00:22,895 --> 00:00:24,672 I don’t think you'd like prison. 16 00:00:53,292 --> 00:00:54,292 Ah. 17 00:00:54,893 --> 00:00:56,452 Long story sideways. 18 00:00:57,529 --> 00:01:00,208 Our Ryan's been coming home from school talking about Tommy Lee Royce 19 00:01:00,232 --> 00:01:03,134 as this poor misunderstood fella that we all need to forgive. 20 00:01:04,036 --> 00:01:06,981 Someone in this school is putting ideas into his head. 21 00:01:07,005 --> 00:01:08,082 Someone left a birthday present, 22 00:01:08,106 --> 00:01:12,220 an expensive birthday present, on our doorstep with a card, "From Dad." 23 00:01:12,244 --> 00:01:14,322 Now, he is starting to think of that evil, 24 00:01:14,346 --> 00:01:16,424 twisted, murdering bastard as his father, 25 00:01:16,448 --> 00:01:18,760 because some deluded... 26 00:01:18,784 --> 00:01:20,495 Someone in this school 27 00:01:20,519 --> 00:01:23,580 is filling his head with deeply inappropriate ideas. 28 00:01:26,992 --> 00:01:28,654 Do you recognize that person? 29 00:01:33,198 --> 00:01:35,510 - No. - It's a woman, it ain't a lad. 30 00:01:35,534 --> 00:01:38,026 Our Clare thinks it looks like Miss Wealand, your new TA. 31 00:01:39,371 --> 00:01:41,950 That's someone in the toy shop in Hebden, buying exactly the same toy 32 00:01:41,974 --> 00:01:44,252 that was left on our doorstep two weeks ago. 33 00:01:44,276 --> 00:01:45,187 "From Dad." 34 00:01:45,211 --> 00:01:48,089 Now, obviously, she could've been buying it for some completely other reason. 35 00:01:48,113 --> 00:01:49,557 But it's a bit of a coincidence, isn't it? 36 00:01:49,581 --> 00:01:52,227 Has Ryan said that it's her that's been talking about his dad? 37 00:01:52,251 --> 00:01:53,928 No. It's delicate. I can't talk to him about it. 38 00:01:53,952 --> 00:01:55,497 He gets angry with me. 39 00:01:55,521 --> 00:01:58,199 But this is how insidious it is. I'm the baddie. 40 00:01:58,223 --> 00:01:59,734 Look, I'm not saying that you're wrong, Catherine. 41 00:01:59,758 --> 00:02:03,204 But Miss Wealand is a very kind, caring, lovely woman. 42 00:02:03,228 --> 00:02:05,306 She came to us with an excellent CV. 43 00:02:05,330 --> 00:02:07,709 I'm sure she is, I'm sure that's how she operates. 44 00:02:07,733 --> 00:02:10,745 Her and every other deluded nutcase that's ever groomed a kiddie. 45 00:02:10,769 --> 00:02:12,080 - Groomed? - Well, it's what it is 46 00:02:12,104 --> 00:02:13,748 if every time they have a one-to-one reading session, 47 00:02:13,772 --> 00:02:15,416 she's encouraging him to think about his dad 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,652 - in some misguided, sentimental way... - Yeah, but, hang on, look. 49 00:02:17,676 --> 00:02:19,687 We don't know that that is what's happening. 50 00:02:19,711 --> 00:02:21,689 Why would anybody do that? 51 00:02:21,713 --> 00:02:25,126 'Cause people are weird, people are mad, 52 00:02:25,150 --> 00:02:27,295 and they don't always have it tattooed across their forehead. 53 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,312 The staff in this school are fully aware of the situation with Ryan. 54 00:02:31,456 --> 00:02:34,536 - Does she work part-time? - Yeah, Mondays, Tuesday and Wednesdays. 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,071 - What does she do on her days off? - I've... I don't know. 56 00:02:37,095 --> 00:02:38,840 - Where does she live? - Catherine. 57 00:02:38,864 --> 00:02:40,942 - Does she talk about her private life? - Not to me. 58 00:02:40,966 --> 00:02:42,944 You see, when that present appeared on our doorstep, 59 00:02:42,968 --> 00:02:45,213 and we saw that card, my first thought is, 60 00:02:45,237 --> 00:02:47,181 "This is someone who visits him in prison." 61 00:02:47,205 --> 00:02:48,883 I can't believe she visits anyone in prison. 62 00:02:48,907 --> 00:02:51,853 - This is someone he's manipulated. - Let me introduce you to her. 63 00:02:51,877 --> 00:02:53,755 Come and meet her, please, come and see for yourself. 64 00:02:53,779 --> 00:02:56,291 Honestly, Catherine, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised. 65 00:02:56,315 --> 00:02:58,026 No, 'cause we'll know soon enough if it is her, 66 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:01,496 because the DIU are investigating everybody he has any contact with. 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,432 But in the meantime, if you could find somebody else to read with him, 68 00:03:04,456 --> 00:03:05,500 I'd be very grateful. 69 00:03:05,524 --> 00:03:08,069 Because every second, if it is her, and maybe it isn't, 70 00:03:08,093 --> 00:03:11,005 but if it is her, every second he spends with her, 71 00:03:11,029 --> 00:03:14,108 she is encouraging him to think about this man as his father. 72 00:03:14,132 --> 00:03:17,245 This psychopath, this man who's done nothing but destroy people's lives. 73 00:03:17,269 --> 00:03:19,814 This man who threw petrol over him 18 months ago. 74 00:03:19,838 --> 00:03:22,417 Someone here, for whatever reason, 75 00:03:22,441 --> 00:03:25,620 is encouraging him to think that he is basically an okay guy, 76 00:03:25,644 --> 00:03:28,156 and that I am some nasty angry bitch 77 00:03:28,180 --> 00:03:30,340 for doing my damnedest to try and protect him from him. 78 00:03:31,416 --> 00:03:32,416 Okay. 79 00:03:33,752 --> 00:03:35,296 I can't talk to her, I can't get involved, 80 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,864 I need to let the DIU deal with it, 81 00:03:36,888 --> 00:03:38,232 but I need you to be aware. 82 00:03:38,256 --> 00:03:39,315 Right. 83 00:04:40,552 --> 00:04:42,163 - You all right? - Yeah. 84 00:04:42,187 --> 00:04:45,299 You seem a bit preoccupied. - I'm fine. 85 00:04:45,323 --> 00:04:47,135 You do know we're not gonna get a cup o' tea, don't you? 86 00:04:47,159 --> 00:04:51,606 Yeah, well. I just want to make it clear 87 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:54,075 to Alison that I am still dealing with them scrotes, 88 00:04:54,099 --> 00:04:59,814 despite Daryl's sophisticated, delicate efforts 89 00:04:59,838 --> 00:05:01,807 to take the law into his own hands. 90 00:05:12,617 --> 00:05:13,880 Sarge. 91 00:05:18,223 --> 00:05:19,300 Was it like that when you arrested him? 92 00:05:19,324 --> 00:05:20,968 I don't know. 93 00:05:20,992 --> 00:05:22,336 I can't remember. 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,200 I've an idea it was parked the other way round. 95 00:05:37,109 --> 00:05:38,109 Hello? 96 00:05:38,777 --> 00:05:39,777 Alison? 97 00:05:42,013 --> 00:05:43,013 Daryl? 98 00:05:50,021 --> 00:05:51,021 Hello? 99 00:06:10,242 --> 00:06:12,575 Alison? 100 00:06:13,779 --> 00:06:15,077 Alison? Can you hear me? 101 00:06:21,686 --> 00:06:23,518 Alison, it's Catherine Cawood. 102 00:06:25,357 --> 00:06:26,518 Sergeant Cawood. 103 00:06:28,460 --> 00:06:29,637 Alison, listen, love, listen to me. 104 00:06:29,661 --> 00:06:31,472 I want you to squeeze my hand if you can hear me. 105 00:06:31,496 --> 00:06:33,040 Check upstairs, see if there's anyone else, 106 00:06:33,064 --> 00:06:34,623 anyone injured and be careful. 107 00:06:44,176 --> 00:06:46,754 Bravo November four-five. Urgent assistance required. 108 00:06:46,778 --> 00:06:50,224 Far Sunderland Farm, up Wainstalls, off Cold Edge Road. 109 00:06:50,248 --> 00:06:52,560 I need an ambulance, there's a 40-something woman, 110 00:06:52,584 --> 00:06:54,829 Alison Garrs, suspected overdose. 111 00:06:54,853 --> 00:06:56,497 Diazepam, not sure how many. 112 00:06:56,521 --> 00:06:59,934 She seems to have washed 'em down with vodka and whisky. 113 00:06:59,958 --> 00:07:02,436 Her pulse is weak, but she's conscious and breathing. 114 00:07:02,460 --> 00:07:04,895 Alison? Alison? 115 00:07:06,598 --> 00:07:08,242 There's also a male. 116 00:07:08,266 --> 00:07:11,179 I'm fairly certain it's her son, Daryl Garrs. 117 00:07:11,203 --> 00:07:13,181 Fatal gunshot injury to the back of the head. 118 00:07:13,205 --> 00:07:15,650 Possible weapon at the scene. I need F-Sup here to prove. 119 00:07:15,674 --> 00:07:19,187 I need the on-call DI. I need the duty SIO. I need a CSI. 120 00:07:19,211 --> 00:07:21,942 I need any available troops to come and secure the scene. 121 00:07:24,549 --> 00:07:27,094 God knows what's happened, 122 00:07:27,118 --> 00:07:28,629 but it's carnage. 123 00:07:28,653 --> 00:07:30,898 I've got all that for the log, Sarge. 124 00:07:30,922 --> 00:07:32,733 Is there anything else? 125 00:07:32,757 --> 00:07:34,802 No, I'll keep you posted. 126 00:07:34,826 --> 00:07:36,604 Alison? Who's done this, Alison? 127 00:07:36,628 --> 00:07:38,472 Who's done this to Daryl, Alison? 128 00:07:38,496 --> 00:07:40,341 - Alison, can you hear me? - No. 129 00:07:40,365 --> 00:07:41,526 Come on. 130 00:07:42,934 --> 00:07:44,903 Put your arm round me, come on. 131 00:07:46,204 --> 00:07:48,783 - Upstairs is clear. - Let's get her out of this. 132 00:07:48,807 --> 00:07:50,218 I thought you weren't supposed to move people? 133 00:07:50,242 --> 00:07:51,452 - Just, just... - Where shall I get hold of her? 134 00:07:51,476 --> 00:07:53,308 Oh, man up, Princess. Use your initiative. 135 00:07:58,450 --> 00:08:02,196 Ambulance on its way to you now, four-five, from Keighley. 136 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:03,564 ETA 16 minutes. 137 00:08:03,588 --> 00:08:05,533 Keighley? 138 00:08:05,557 --> 00:08:07,025 They're all tied up in Halifax. 139 00:08:10,695 --> 00:08:12,596 Get your mobile out, dial 999. 140 00:08:13,465 --> 00:08:14,942 Alison! 141 00:08:14,966 --> 00:08:16,544 I need a paramedic talking to me. 142 00:08:16,568 --> 00:08:18,312 I need to know what the latest is with an overdose. 143 00:08:18,336 --> 00:08:20,114 Hello there, it's Constable Shafiq Shah here, 144 00:08:20,138 --> 00:08:23,317 collar number 9242, I've got a lady here, she's taken... 145 00:08:23,341 --> 00:08:25,386 - Diazepam, whisky, vodka. - Diazepam, whisky, vodka. 146 00:08:25,410 --> 00:08:27,788 - We need advice. - Stay with us, Alison! Come on, love. 147 00:08:27,812 --> 00:08:29,590 You're not gonna fall asleep on me, I need you awake. 148 00:08:29,614 --> 00:08:31,559 Conscious, yeah, but she's struggling to stay with us. 149 00:08:31,583 --> 00:08:35,730 Alison, listen. Alison, who shot Daryl? 150 00:08:35,754 --> 00:08:38,432 Who did that to Daryl? 151 00:08:38,456 --> 00:08:40,401 - I don't know. - Who was here? 152 00:08:40,425 --> 00:08:42,637 Did you see what happened, Alison? Who was here? 153 00:08:42,661 --> 00:08:44,238 Nobody. No one was here. 154 00:08:44,262 --> 00:08:47,608 Right, you need to induce her to vomit. Yeah, then what? 155 00:08:47,632 --> 00:08:51,746 Then you... Then clear the airway and put her in the recovery position. 156 00:08:51,770 --> 00:08:57,184 Okay. Tell you what, you go back inside and get some water and a blanket. 157 00:08:57,208 --> 00:09:01,455 And try not to tread on anything, like the floor, any more than you have to. 158 00:09:01,479 --> 00:09:03,724 The request's gone in to F-Sup, four-five. 159 00:09:03,748 --> 00:09:05,693 ClD've been informed and they're on the way. 160 00:09:05,717 --> 00:09:07,995 I've also put the request in for a CSI. 161 00:09:08,019 --> 00:09:09,330 Is there anything else I can help you with? 162 00:09:09,354 --> 00:09:11,499 What's the best way to make someone sick? 163 00:09:11,523 --> 00:09:12,767 Stick your fingers down their throat. 164 00:09:12,791 --> 00:09:14,802 Oh, yeah, and get my hand bitten off? 165 00:09:16,561 --> 00:09:18,029 Okay, Alison. Listen. 166 00:09:24,469 --> 00:09:26,213 I need you to be sick. 167 00:09:26,237 --> 00:09:27,933 No, no, no. 168 00:09:29,007 --> 00:09:31,419 No. Alison. 169 00:09:31,443 --> 00:09:33,639 - I know it's not pleasant. - I'm just... 170 00:09:34,879 --> 00:09:37,458 I'm going to lie down. 171 00:09:37,482 --> 00:09:41,028 Yeah, you can lie down, but I just need you to be sick first. 172 00:09:41,052 --> 00:09:42,052 No. 173 00:09:44,689 --> 00:09:47,134 Can you stick your fingers down your throat for me? 174 00:09:47,158 --> 00:09:48,158 No. 175 00:09:50,228 --> 00:09:52,506 I can't let you go to sleep until you've been sick, Alison. 176 00:09:52,530 --> 00:09:55,543 You're not lying down until you've been sick. 177 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:56,944 Shh, it's fine. 178 00:09:56,968 --> 00:09:59,213 - Alison! - It's fine. 179 00:09:59,237 --> 00:10:01,172 No. Stay awake, Alison! 180 00:10:03,975 --> 00:10:07,844 Right. Who shot Daryl? Alison. Alison? 181 00:10:09,381 --> 00:10:10,542 Alison. 182 00:10:14,219 --> 00:10:16,130 I shot Daryl. 183 00:10:16,154 --> 00:10:19,522 You? You shot... You? 184 00:10:20,225 --> 00:10:21,769 You shot Daryl? 185 00:10:21,793 --> 00:10:25,973 - Mmm. - You? You shot... 186 00:10:25,997 --> 00:10:29,161 Why, Alison, why would you do... Why would you do that? 187 00:11:04,736 --> 00:11:05,946 Bravo November four-five. 188 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:10,618 Could you contact Mr. Shepherd or DI Shackleton at Norland Road? 189 00:11:10,642 --> 00:11:12,486 And tell them there's a vehicle here that could be involved 190 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:14,822 in Operation Syracuse. 191 00:11:14,846 --> 00:11:16,872 It's a Peugeot 205. 192 00:11:18,083 --> 00:11:22,296 It's red, it's damaged. 193 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,255 Will do four-five. 194 00:11:28,126 --> 00:11:30,438 Alison. Did you really? 195 00:11:30,462 --> 00:11:32,139 Alison? 196 00:11:32,163 --> 00:11:33,163 Mmm. 197 00:11:41,906 --> 00:11:44,569 I'm going to have to caution you. 198 00:11:46,945 --> 00:11:47,945 Okay. 199 00:11:49,214 --> 00:11:50,491 Phew. 200 00:11:50,515 --> 00:11:53,246 I'm arresting you. Do you understand? 201 00:11:55,553 --> 00:11:57,749 I'm arresting you on suspicion of murder. 202 00:12:00,425 --> 00:12:03,404 You don't have to say anything. 203 00:12:03,428 --> 00:12:07,741 But it may harm your defense if you do not mention when questioned 204 00:12:07,765 --> 00:12:09,996 something you later rely on in court. 205 00:12:12,070 --> 00:12:14,699 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 206 00:12:17,242 --> 00:12:19,973 I don't feel so good. 207 00:12:42,033 --> 00:12:45,980 Steve, come away for a bit. - Sure. 208 00:12:46,004 --> 00:12:48,701 What's... Has there been a development? 209 00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:53,721 A woman, up Wainstalls, 210 00:12:53,745 --> 00:12:56,340 has just shot her own son in the back of the head. 211 00:12:57,248 --> 00:12:59,360 By accident? JODIE: Uh, no. 212 00:12:59,384 --> 00:13:02,596 No, she'd taken an overdose, pissed out of her skull. 213 00:13:02,620 --> 00:13:06,734 And apparently, the reason she did it, she's just told Catherine Cawood, 214 00:13:06,758 --> 00:13:10,559 is because the son told her about what he did to those women. 215 00:13:13,164 --> 00:13:15,929 - Is he dead? - Well dead by the sound of things. 216 00:13:18,236 --> 00:13:19,513 Jesus. 217 00:13:19,537 --> 00:13:21,062 I know. 218 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,319 I need everyone in the briefing room. 219 00:13:25,343 --> 00:13:28,711 Apparently, he also said he didn't do that Vicky Fleming one. 220 00:13:30,215 --> 00:13:33,694 Can I get everyone in the briefing room now, folks? Please. 221 00:13:33,718 --> 00:13:35,016 Thank you. 222 00:13:36,287 --> 00:13:39,733 And he told his mother that he wouldn't have had to do that last one, 223 00:13:39,757 --> 00:13:43,751 if people hadn't kept thinking that he'd done that Vicky Fleming one. 224 00:13:45,597 --> 00:13:48,567 We need to reassess everything that we've got on Vicky Fleming. 225 00:13:50,235 --> 00:13:53,447 We need to find this mysterious boyfriend one of her colleagues at work mentioned. 226 00:13:53,471 --> 00:13:55,431 The one we thought Vicky must have been making up. 227 00:14:33,811 --> 00:14:35,404 How's it going up there? 228 00:14:37,148 --> 00:14:42,018 Like Piccadilly Circus when I left. More detectives than prime-time TV. 229 00:14:43,721 --> 00:14:45,485 I think they'll be there a while. 230 00:14:47,992 --> 00:14:48,992 Are you okay? 231 00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:58,102 She shot her own child in the back of the head. 232 00:15:01,873 --> 00:15:04,240 - Are you still seeing that therapist? - Yes! 233 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,939 Yeah. 234 00:15:11,849 --> 00:15:13,761 I've got some intel for you. 235 00:15:13,785 --> 00:15:17,965 Tommy Lee Royce's Scottish visitor is a woman called Frances Drummond, 236 00:15:17,989 --> 00:15:21,135 45 years old, she's a pharmacist from Linlithgow. 237 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:24,405 Well, she was until very recently. 238 00:15:24,429 --> 00:15:26,240 They've sent a photo. 239 00:15:26,264 --> 00:15:29,200 And I'm wondering if it's that woman in that CCTV from the toy shop. 240 00:15:31,035 --> 00:15:34,904 So, if that's Frances Drummond, who's Miss Wealand then? 241 00:15:36,307 --> 00:15:39,553 Well, she's invented Miss Wealand, hasn't she? 242 00:15:39,577 --> 00:15:44,038 Mrs. Beresford told me this morning, "She came to us with an excellent CV." 243 00:15:45,783 --> 00:15:49,083 Mrs. Beresford isn't somebody who wouldn't check out references. 244 00:15:52,757 --> 00:15:54,919 Shit. 245 00:15:55,927 --> 00:15:58,172 Shit. Oh. 246 00:15:58,196 --> 00:15:58,973 Hello? 247 00:15:58,997 --> 00:16:00,908 You're not gonna believe this, it's mental. 248 00:16:00,932 --> 00:16:02,943 - She's mental. - Who's mental? 249 00:16:02,967 --> 00:16:07,348 Well, not Miss Wealand, because Miss Wealand, Cecily Wealand, 250 00:16:07,372 --> 00:16:11,537 a qualified teaching assistant from Linlithgow, is dead. 251 00:16:12,243 --> 00:16:13,243 What? 252 00:16:14,412 --> 00:16:17,358 Dead and had her identity stolen. 253 00:16:17,382 --> 00:16:21,095 - So, who's... - She is called Frances Drummond. 254 00:16:21,119 --> 00:16:24,832 Also from Linlithgow, a pharmacist. God knows, don't ask. 255 00:16:24,856 --> 00:16:28,936 And she visits Tommy Lee Royce in Gravesend 256 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,573 and now lives in Hebden, as Cecily Wealand. 257 00:16:32,597 --> 00:16:34,742 Shit. Oh, shit. 258 00:16:34,766 --> 00:16:37,511 - I know. - No, I mean... 259 00:16:37,535 --> 00:16:39,113 Do you want me to get round to the school? 260 00:16:39,137 --> 00:16:40,981 No, no, no. 261 00:16:41,005 --> 00:16:42,983 I'm just waiting for some intel from East Lothian. 262 00:16:43,007 --> 00:16:45,552 They're talking to Cecily Wealand's partner. 263 00:16:45,576 --> 00:16:47,788 Well, widower. 264 00:16:47,812 --> 00:16:49,223 I need a copy of the death certificate, 265 00:16:49,247 --> 00:16:51,558 then CID'll go in to arrest her for fraud. 266 00:16:51,582 --> 00:16:53,160 Wow. Fraud? 267 00:16:53,184 --> 00:16:55,329 Yeah. Fraud by false representation. 268 00:16:55,353 --> 00:16:57,331 We'll have to deal with whatever the hell she thinks she's been doing 269 00:16:57,355 --> 00:16:59,400 regarding our Ryan after we've dealt with that. 270 00:16:59,424 --> 00:17:03,103 - Hang on, she's, she's, she's... - She's targeted him. 271 00:17:03,127 --> 00:17:09,710 It's properly creepy, she's obtained a job she's not qualified for. 272 00:17:09,734 --> 00:17:13,113 She's stolen a dead woman's identity 273 00:17:13,137 --> 00:17:17,484 specifically because this woman had the right kind of qualifications 274 00:17:17,508 --> 00:17:19,153 to allow her to get close to Ryan 275 00:17:19,177 --> 00:17:23,357 so that she could fill his head with pap about Tommy Lee Royce, 276 00:17:23,381 --> 00:17:27,751 who she, Frances Drummond, visits in Gravesend. 277 00:17:29,253 --> 00:17:31,832 Phone, I've gotta go, bye, bye. 278 00:17:31,856 --> 00:17:33,449 Oh. 279 00:17:40,298 --> 00:17:46,863 So, Cecily Wealand was Frances Drummond's sister, 280 00:17:48,105 --> 00:17:51,552 48 years old, she had a stroke nine months ago. 281 00:17:51,576 --> 00:17:53,101 Her partner, 282 00:17:56,013 --> 00:17:57,504 her husband, 283 00:17:58,583 --> 00:18:04,264 thinks when she died, Cecily... He was in pieces. 284 00:18:04,288 --> 00:18:06,985 And Frances helped with a lot of practical stuff. 285 00:18:08,292 --> 00:18:09,770 And he thinks that's when she might have 286 00:18:09,794 --> 00:18:13,060 got her hands on various bits of personal documentation. 287 00:18:15,199 --> 00:18:17,911 All right. Let's send 'em in to make the arrest. 288 00:18:17,935 --> 00:18:19,913 Have you got a number for this Mrs. Beresford? 289 00:18:19,937 --> 00:18:21,748 I'll ring her and warn her they're coming. 290 00:18:21,772 --> 00:18:23,517 Then I'll get onto the prison liaison officer. 291 00:18:23,541 --> 00:18:26,841 They need to let Gravesend know he's been grooming this woman. 292 00:18:29,046 --> 00:18:30,480 Sad, isn't it? 293 00:18:31,315 --> 00:18:33,527 No criminal record. 294 00:18:33,551 --> 00:18:37,397 She's held down a perfectly respectable job for upward of 15 years. 295 00:18:37,421 --> 00:18:41,051 And then, she does this mad thing. 296 00:18:42,527 --> 00:18:44,471 And for what? 297 00:18:44,495 --> 00:18:47,307 Forty-five minutes once a fortnight with a psychopath. 298 00:18:47,331 --> 00:18:49,800 - Hello. - Yes! Hello. It's Mike Taylor. 299 00:18:50,368 --> 00:18:51,529 Okay. 300 00:18:57,208 --> 00:18:59,734 Yeah, I've got POLSA team pulling the place apart. 301 00:19:00,711 --> 00:19:02,523 There's all sorts of stuff in his bedroom. 302 00:19:02,547 --> 00:19:05,559 Chances are there'll be stuff he's hidden as well, I think. 303 00:19:05,583 --> 00:19:08,018 Dare I say it, I'll be surprised if this isn't him. 304 00:19:08,719 --> 00:19:10,831 Have you had time to think through a media strategy? 305 00:19:10,855 --> 00:19:12,766 Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news... 306 00:19:12,790 --> 00:19:14,935 Oh, oh, did you fast track that DNA swab they took last week? 307 00:19:14,959 --> 00:19:16,770 - Yeah, yeah, I did. - Thanks. 308 00:19:16,794 --> 00:19:18,772 Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news, 309 00:19:18,796 --> 00:19:21,041 I want images of Vicky Fleming out there big time. 310 00:19:21,065 --> 00:19:22,175 On every news channel. 311 00:19:22,199 --> 00:19:25,245 I want the date that flat was burned out seared into people's brains. 312 00:19:25,269 --> 00:19:29,216 I want people thinking back to that night, what they were doing that night. 313 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,119 We just didn't get that message out there big enough last time, 314 00:19:32,143 --> 00:19:33,253 somebody must have seen her. 315 00:19:33,277 --> 00:19:35,522 Somebody must have seen or heard something. 316 00:19:35,546 --> 00:19:36,623 Yeah. Yeah. 317 00:19:36,647 --> 00:19:40,209 Because if they didn't... Oh, God knows. 318 00:19:41,385 --> 00:19:45,999 You know, whoever burnt that flat out knew exactly what they were doing, 319 00:19:46,023 --> 00:19:48,235 as regards destroying evidence. 320 00:19:48,259 --> 00:19:51,638 And whoever mutilated her body knew what this lad was doing to these other women. 321 00:19:51,662 --> 00:19:53,187 I'm looking at who's here. 322 00:19:54,298 --> 00:19:55,630 All doing their jobs. 323 00:19:56,801 --> 00:19:58,145 And I'm thinking about everybody there, 324 00:19:58,169 --> 00:20:00,514 everybody on the team, my team in the office. 325 00:20:00,538 --> 00:20:04,017 Might not be a man. Which one of 'em would do that? 326 00:20:04,041 --> 00:20:05,819 Which one of them would be capable of it? 327 00:20:05,843 --> 00:20:08,956 Well, there are other explanations. 328 00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:12,593 Yeah, but address the question. 329 00:20:12,617 --> 00:20:16,486 Well, your first instinct is nobody. Nobody's capable of that. 330 00:20:17,822 --> 00:20:21,668 But then, the truth is anybody's capable of anything. 331 00:20:21,692 --> 00:20:23,558 In the right circumstances. 332 00:20:24,362 --> 00:20:25,539 So, who then? 333 00:20:25,563 --> 00:20:26,907 Oh. 334 00:20:26,931 --> 00:20:29,576 I've gone all creepy now. You're making me feel like maybe I've done it. 335 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,311 I know. It's that mad, isn't it? 336 00:20:31,335 --> 00:20:32,879 So, come on. Who? 337 00:20:32,903 --> 00:20:35,349 - Why would I do it? - Oh, you? 338 00:20:35,373 --> 00:20:36,817 Yeah, let's start with me. 339 00:20:36,841 --> 00:20:39,486 Under what circumstances might I end up doing that? 340 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:40,988 I haven't, by the way. 341 00:20:41,012 --> 00:20:43,641 - Although, I would say that. - Right, well... 342 00:20:45,549 --> 00:20:48,862 You'd do it if you wanted to get rid of somebody and disguise it, 343 00:20:48,886 --> 00:20:52,733 somebody who'd upset you, obviously. 344 00:20:52,757 --> 00:20:55,102 I mean, the way she was strangled, 345 00:20:55,126 --> 00:20:57,137 it's not like it was an accident, was it? 346 00:20:57,161 --> 00:21:00,620 Vicky Fleming had John Wadsworth's number on her mobile phone. 347 00:21:02,199 --> 00:21:04,044 He accounted for it. 348 00:21:04,068 --> 00:21:06,913 He, uh... He did an investigation at the building society three years ago 349 00:21:06,937 --> 00:21:08,348 when he on the economic crime unit, 350 00:21:08,372 --> 00:21:11,451 and it isn't even like the number was ever used. 351 00:21:11,475 --> 00:21:14,321 Well, there you go, that's a perfectly, reasonable... 352 00:21:14,345 --> 00:21:17,858 But people use secret shagging phones, don't they? 353 00:21:17,882 --> 00:21:21,962 That they could destroy in a fire. 354 00:21:21,986 --> 00:21:24,865 And the thing is, his marriage's been a bit shit lately. 355 00:21:24,889 --> 00:21:27,085 Oh, well, better arrest him then, eh, boss? 356 00:21:28,225 --> 00:21:29,936 I know. 357 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,104 I've known the man 23 years, 358 00:21:31,128 --> 00:21:33,008 you feel like washing your mouth out, don't you? 359 00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:38,863 After you. 360 00:21:41,572 --> 00:21:45,986 These gentlemen need to talk to you. This is Miss Wealand. 361 00:21:46,010 --> 00:21:48,121 Frances Elizabeth Drummond. 362 00:21:48,145 --> 00:21:49,204 Sorry? 363 00:21:50,214 --> 00:21:54,227 I'm arresting you on suspicion of fraud by false representation. 364 00:21:54,251 --> 00:21:58,365 Contrary to Section 2 of the Fraud Act 2006. 365 00:21:58,389 --> 00:22:00,167 You do not have to say anything. 366 00:22:00,191 --> 00:22:03,070 But it may harm your defense if you do not mention when questioned 367 00:22:03,094 --> 00:22:05,439 something you later rely on in court. 368 00:22:05,463 --> 00:22:07,974 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 369 00:22:07,998 --> 00:22:08,843 Do you have a mobile phone? 370 00:22:08,867 --> 00:22:11,545 Ryan Cawood needs to talk about his father. 371 00:22:11,569 --> 00:22:13,513 He needs someone who will listen to him. 372 00:22:13,537 --> 00:22:17,017 - You've been here under false pretences. - Think about Ryan. 373 00:22:17,041 --> 00:22:19,619 I have to explain that to the parents and to the governors 374 00:22:19,643 --> 00:22:21,021 and to the children. 375 00:22:21,045 --> 00:22:22,823 - Think about Ryan. - They liked you. 376 00:22:22,847 --> 00:22:26,560 - Have you a mobile phone? - In my handbag. 377 00:22:26,584 --> 00:22:27,984 And a coat? 378 00:22:28,652 --> 00:22:30,263 Yeah, staff room. 379 00:22:30,287 --> 00:22:32,222 - Do you want me to... - Would you mind? 380 00:22:40,231 --> 00:22:41,908 So, what'll happen? 381 00:22:41,932 --> 00:22:43,833 They'll charge her. And then they'll bail her. 382 00:22:44,735 --> 00:22:45,896 And then what? 383 00:22:48,005 --> 00:22:49,268 And then 384 00:22:51,275 --> 00:22:54,521 somebody might need to pop round to her house on Upper Brunswick Street 385 00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:57,947 and have a quiet word with her about taking the high road back to Linlithgow. 386 00:23:00,184 --> 00:23:01,550 And will that be you? 387 00:23:03,354 --> 00:23:04,631 Well, you know me, 388 00:23:04,655 --> 00:23:07,868 I wouldn't want her to break her bail conditions. 389 00:23:07,892 --> 00:23:13,593 She won't be allowed within 500 yards of Ryan and/or members of his family, so... 390 00:23:24,508 --> 00:23:26,453 Ey, you'll not credit. 391 00:23:26,477 --> 00:23:29,743 I looked in on Winnie. She's only gone and got Ilinka a job. 392 00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:32,192 How? 393 00:23:32,216 --> 00:23:34,261 Cleaning at White Lion. 394 00:23:34,285 --> 00:23:35,295 How? 395 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:37,230 Gordon popped round. Four doors down. 396 00:23:37,254 --> 00:23:39,132 And he knows Tanya. 397 00:23:39,156 --> 00:23:42,269 I think he's her uncle and she's the manager. 398 00:23:42,293 --> 00:23:46,606 So, Ilinka went round there with him and Bob's your uncle. 399 00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:48,622 I said, "Can you get me a job, Winnie?" 400 00:23:49,733 --> 00:23:50,944 So, what? Is she stopping? 401 00:23:50,968 --> 00:23:53,079 I know, that's what I said. 402 00:23:53,103 --> 00:23:57,450 And Winnie goes, "Well, we've got the alarm now, haven't we? 403 00:23:57,474 --> 00:23:59,886 "And I have asked Catherine 404 00:23:59,910 --> 00:24:03,210 "to not bother sleeping in that conservatory anymore." 405 00:24:06,584 --> 00:24:07,950 Are you all right? 406 00:24:10,888 --> 00:24:14,120 Just an odd day. When I got there this morning... 407 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,861 Shot her own kid's head off. 408 00:24:19,396 --> 00:24:22,025 Your own kid. What does it take to do that, eh? 409 00:24:23,868 --> 00:24:27,547 I mean, obviously, it takes finding out you've given birth to a serial nutter. 410 00:24:27,571 --> 00:24:29,749 But then, after she'd explained that, 411 00:24:29,773 --> 00:24:32,352 she goes, "Only he didn't do that fourth one, that Vicky Fleming. 412 00:24:32,376 --> 00:24:36,256 "He wanted people to know that wasn't him." Like... 413 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,977 "Oh, well, that's all right then. As long as he didn't do that one." 414 00:24:44,588 --> 00:24:46,682 God alone knows what she's been through. 415 00:24:48,926 --> 00:24:50,036 So, who did? 416 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:53,462 Well, that's the 64-million-dollar question now, isn't it? 417 00:24:57,935 --> 00:24:59,528 I'll start cooking some tea. 418 00:25:53,091 --> 00:25:55,902 Frances, I'm not here as a police officer, I'm here as Ryan's grandmother. 419 00:25:55,926 --> 00:25:57,604 I want to sort this out. 420 00:25:57,628 --> 00:26:00,974 I want to understand you, and I want you to understand me. 421 00:26:00,998 --> 00:26:03,743 I know you've never had a criminal record. 422 00:26:03,767 --> 00:26:05,879 I know you've held down a very responsible, 423 00:26:05,903 --> 00:26:08,982 perfectly respectable job for the last 15 years. 424 00:26:09,006 --> 00:26:10,817 I want to understand why you've done what you've done, 425 00:26:10,841 --> 00:26:12,241 I want to know what you want. 426 00:26:13,777 --> 00:26:15,837 And I want you to know things about me. 427 00:26:17,848 --> 00:26:20,260 Can I come in? 428 00:26:20,284 --> 00:26:22,862 Or we can go down the road and get a cup of tea somewhere, 429 00:26:22,886 --> 00:26:25,219 if you'd prefer. 430 00:26:48,612 --> 00:26:51,791 Your people came here. They took things. 431 00:26:51,815 --> 00:26:55,195 You've had a long day. Probably quite an unpleasant one. 432 00:26:55,219 --> 00:26:57,597 I won't take up any more of your time than I need to. 433 00:26:57,621 --> 00:26:58,332 Okay. 434 00:26:58,356 --> 00:27:01,968 What I think, you see, is that you're not a bad person. 435 00:27:01,992 --> 00:27:02,737 Far from it. 436 00:27:02,761 --> 00:27:06,139 And you believe what you've done, you've done for the best. 437 00:27:06,163 --> 00:27:09,409 Ryan should have a relationship with his father. 438 00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:11,077 However difficult things are. 439 00:27:11,101 --> 00:27:15,215 Look, I realize everything you know about this, us, 440 00:27:15,239 --> 00:27:17,174 you've been told by him. 441 00:27:18,609 --> 00:27:19,753 Tommy Lee Royce. 442 00:27:19,777 --> 00:27:24,147 And I... Do you mind if I sit down? 443 00:27:25,949 --> 00:27:30,397 And I realize you're in a relationship of some sort with him. 444 00:27:30,421 --> 00:27:31,616 We're getting married. 445 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:38,605 Okay, look. I know you're probably not going to accept 446 00:27:38,629 --> 00:27:40,173 a lot of the things I'm going to tell you right now. 447 00:27:40,197 --> 00:27:43,676 But obviously I have a very different perspective on it all to him. 448 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,966 And I want you to hear it. Whether you accept it or not. Okay? 449 00:27:48,105 --> 00:27:50,483 He's a sex offender. 450 00:27:50,507 --> 00:27:51,751 He raped my daughter. 451 00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:54,287 He was very fond of your daughter. 452 00:27:54,311 --> 00:27:58,858 Oh, no. No. He took advantage of her, brutally. Brutally. 453 00:27:58,882 --> 00:28:01,161 And after Ryan was born, she took her own life. 454 00:28:01,185 --> 00:28:04,130 That was nothing to do with him. He was in prison by then. 455 00:28:04,154 --> 00:28:06,332 It had everything to do with him. She was traumatized. 456 00:28:06,356 --> 00:28:10,103 We are going to have different versions of the same story, 457 00:28:10,127 --> 00:28:14,622 but please credit me with... I was there. 458 00:28:15,699 --> 00:28:17,998 When she gave birth and after. 459 00:28:19,703 --> 00:28:21,114 And I know what she went through. 460 00:28:21,138 --> 00:28:24,551 You deprived him of having a relationship with his child. 461 00:28:24,575 --> 00:28:27,487 You never even let him know he'd been born. 462 00:28:27,511 --> 00:28:31,124 Tommy Lee Royce is a psychopath. 463 00:28:31,148 --> 00:28:31,992 No. 464 00:28:32,016 --> 00:28:36,129 He's a murderer and he's a sex offender. 465 00:28:36,153 --> 00:28:39,132 And you must know, you must realize, that I think, 466 00:28:39,156 --> 00:28:42,135 you have allowed yourself to be deluded by this dangerous man 467 00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:43,970 because you're infatuated with him. 468 00:28:43,994 --> 00:28:46,272 You might not want to believe that he raped my daughter, 469 00:28:46,296 --> 00:28:48,274 but you do know, you do know, 470 00:28:48,298 --> 00:28:51,644 that he raped Ann Gallagher, murdered Kirsten McAskill 471 00:28:51,668 --> 00:28:57,283 in the most hideous manner, and Lewis Whippey, and Brett McKendrick. 472 00:28:57,307 --> 00:28:58,751 And he tried to murder me. 473 00:28:58,775 --> 00:29:00,386 Lewis Whippey was the one who raped Ann Gallagher. 474 00:29:00,410 --> 00:29:03,189 And he was the one who murdered Kirsten McAskill. 475 00:29:03,213 --> 00:29:05,058 - Not Tommy. - That's not what the court decided. 476 00:29:05,082 --> 00:29:06,826 On very solid forensic evidence... 477 00:29:06,850 --> 00:29:09,996 Tommy did kill Lewis Whippey and Brett McKendrick, 478 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:14,082 but only in self-defense. He attacked you only in self-defense. 479 00:29:15,225 --> 00:29:17,070 Okay, so, obviously that's his version, 480 00:29:17,094 --> 00:29:19,105 and clearly that's what you're choosing to believe right now. 481 00:29:19,129 --> 00:29:22,442 Which worries me, Frances, because it makes you 482 00:29:22,466 --> 00:29:26,346 a woman who all your life appears to have been law-abiding, 483 00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:31,451 logical, kind, normal... It makes you seem a little bit unhinged. 484 00:29:31,475 --> 00:29:34,587 And certainly misguided if that's what you're prepared to believe. 485 00:29:34,611 --> 00:29:36,890 Do you want to know what I believe? 486 00:29:36,914 --> 00:29:39,349 I believe that no one is born evil. 487 00:29:40,150 --> 00:29:43,229 He may have done things, I know he's done things. 488 00:29:43,253 --> 00:29:45,798 Yes, he will inevitably have put his own slant on it all 489 00:29:45,822 --> 00:29:48,801 and made it seem not as bad as it might really have been. 490 00:29:48,825 --> 00:29:50,987 But we all do that, we're all human. 491 00:29:51,995 --> 00:29:53,606 But he isn't evil. 492 00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:57,810 He's a product of his childhood, and he had an awful childhood. 493 00:29:57,834 --> 00:30:00,747 But he isn't intrinsically evil. 494 00:30:00,771 --> 00:30:03,216 We condemn the sin, not the sinner. 495 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,317 With help and kindness, 496 00:30:04,341 --> 00:30:08,922 I believe he'll become the person he was always capable of being. 497 00:30:08,946 --> 00:30:12,659 Good and kind and gentle and thoughtful. 498 00:30:12,683 --> 00:30:16,677 That's what I see when I visit him, when I look into his eyes. 499 00:30:17,821 --> 00:30:21,434 I see no evil. Not a trace of it. 500 00:30:21,458 --> 00:30:26,906 Surely it would benefit him and Ryan if they could have a good relationship. 501 00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:28,675 Frances, you're old enough to be his mother. 502 00:30:28,699 --> 00:30:33,213 I think you are actually older than his mother was when she died. 503 00:30:33,237 --> 00:30:36,482 Does that not ring alarm bells? Does it not worry you? 504 00:30:36,506 --> 00:30:38,184 No. Why should it? 505 00:30:38,208 --> 00:30:39,686 He's using you. 506 00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:43,078 He's used you to get close to Ryan. He's groomed you. 507 00:30:44,147 --> 00:30:46,426 You've been groomed. You've been picked, you've been chosen, 508 00:30:46,450 --> 00:30:47,860 for what he can get out of you. 509 00:30:47,884 --> 00:30:49,929 He could be very fond of Ryan if you'd let him. 510 00:30:49,953 --> 00:30:51,431 No, no, no, Frances. 511 00:30:51,455 --> 00:30:54,867 You can't begin to imagine on how many levels that will never happen. 512 00:30:54,891 --> 00:30:58,338 - Why are you so angry? So negative? - No, I'm not. 513 00:30:58,362 --> 00:31:02,842 It's you who's deluded about this dangerous man, because he's pretty. 514 00:31:02,866 --> 00:31:04,344 Oh... 515 00:31:04,368 --> 00:31:08,514 - You're jealous. - Oh, no. No. 516 00:31:08,538 --> 00:31:10,016 No, I'm shocked, I'm disappointed 517 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,453 that a woman of your obvious intelligence and ability 518 00:31:13,477 --> 00:31:18,438 can allow herself to be fooled by this... This... This... 519 00:31:22,286 --> 00:31:23,429 You know what, tell me this. 520 00:31:23,453 --> 00:31:28,801 If he looked like, I don't know, Ian Brady or Peter Sutcliffe or Jimmy Savile, 521 00:31:28,825 --> 00:31:32,672 or some other sad, twisted fuck, 522 00:31:32,696 --> 00:31:34,722 would you believe a single word he said? 523 00:31:36,867 --> 00:31:40,113 But he doesn't look like them. 524 00:31:40,137 --> 00:31:43,049 On the inside he looks exactly like them. 525 00:31:43,073 --> 00:31:46,185 And one day, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, 526 00:31:46,209 --> 00:31:49,522 but soon, the scales will fall away from your eyes, because they always do. 527 00:31:49,546 --> 00:31:53,059 And you'll realize how foolish he's made you look. 528 00:31:53,083 --> 00:31:55,528 And how much damage he's inflicted on you. 529 00:31:55,552 --> 00:32:00,650 A nice, kind, normal person who this really shouldn't have happened to. 530 00:32:06,997 --> 00:32:09,509 At 17 minutes past 4:00 this afternoon, 531 00:32:09,533 --> 00:32:12,779 the remains of the dead man were removed from the farmhouse. 532 00:32:12,803 --> 00:32:14,547 A woman who also lives at the address 533 00:32:14,571 --> 00:32:18,251 remains under police protection at a hospital in Halifax. 534 00:32:18,275 --> 00:32:20,853 I'm not in a position at this moment to tell you any more about the body 535 00:32:20,877 --> 00:32:22,922 that was found at Far Sunderland Farm this morning. 536 00:32:22,946 --> 00:32:24,991 However, I can tell you that at this time 537 00:32:25,015 --> 00:32:27,026 we're not looking for any suspects 538 00:32:27,050 --> 00:32:29,862 in relation to the deaths of Ana Vasalescu, 539 00:32:29,886 --> 00:32:33,333 Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Elise May Hughes. 540 00:32:33,357 --> 00:32:35,435 We are, however, still appealing to the public 541 00:32:35,459 --> 00:32:39,639 for any information regarding the death of Victoria Fleming. 542 00:32:39,663 --> 00:32:42,709 We're asking people to think back to the evening and the night 543 00:32:42,733 --> 00:32:45,345 of Thursday, the 12th of September. 544 00:32:45,369 --> 00:32:47,947 Anyone who lives in Ripponden, or visits Ripponden 545 00:32:47,971 --> 00:32:49,248 to check their diaries, 546 00:32:49,272 --> 00:32:52,719 and think of anything suspicious that they might have seen or heard. 547 00:32:52,743 --> 00:32:54,654 If anyone was out in Ripponden that evening, 548 00:32:54,678 --> 00:32:56,656 particularly anyone out into the small hours 549 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,258 on Thursday the 12th of September, 550 00:32:59,282 --> 00:33:01,649 we would be very keen to talk to them. 551 00:33:16,833 --> 00:33:18,165 What have I done? 552 00:33:23,373 --> 00:33:24,773 What have I done? 553 00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:29,543 Eh? What have I done? Nothing. 554 00:33:31,348 --> 00:33:32,680 Why me? 555 00:33:35,185 --> 00:33:37,051 Why me, you bastard? 556 00:33:38,488 --> 00:33:41,100 You bastard! You bastard! 557 00:33:41,124 --> 00:33:46,272 You fucking bastard! You bastard, what have I done? 558 00:33:46,296 --> 00:33:48,574 What have I done? Nothing! 559 00:33:48,598 --> 00:33:50,743 Fuck all! Nothing! 560 00:33:50,767 --> 00:33:54,602 Why? Why? You bastard! What have I done? 561 00:34:03,647 --> 00:34:05,138 It'll be okay. 562 00:34:12,756 --> 00:34:15,268 - Everything all right? - Yeah. 563 00:34:15,292 --> 00:34:16,385 Just... 564 00:34:18,528 --> 00:34:20,497 Neil wanted to tell you something. 565 00:34:25,168 --> 00:34:26,727 I knew Vicky Fleming. 566 00:34:40,917 --> 00:34:42,395 - Morning. - Morning. 567 00:34:42,419 --> 00:34:44,697 I was just nipping through to talk to one of your lot actually. 568 00:34:44,721 --> 00:34:47,934 I've got some information that might be relevant about Vicky Fleming. 569 00:34:47,958 --> 00:34:50,002 I don't know that it helps. But it's interesting. 570 00:34:50,026 --> 00:34:52,104 - If you could pass it on to Mr. Shepherd? - Sure. 571 00:34:52,128 --> 00:34:59,160 He's a friend of me sister's, this, um... Uh, bloke. 572 00:35:00,704 --> 00:35:02,381 Are you all right? You look like you've got flu. 573 00:35:02,405 --> 00:35:04,984 Yeah. Uh, I think I'm starting with it. Go on. 574 00:35:05,008 --> 00:35:07,320 Yeah, he's called Neil Ackroyd, he lives down Hebden Bridge. 575 00:35:07,344 --> 00:35:09,609 He's happy to come in and be interviewed, although... 576 00:35:10,714 --> 00:35:13,693 Well, it's sensitive. He knew Vicky Fleming. 577 00:35:13,717 --> 00:35:17,897 This is about four or five years ago. He was having a fling with her. 578 00:35:17,921 --> 00:35:20,333 He was married and apparently, 579 00:35:20,357 --> 00:35:23,336 she tried to blackmail him... Well, she did blackmail him. 580 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,538 She must have drugged him and taken photos of him. 581 00:35:25,562 --> 00:35:27,740 Compromising photos. And then, 582 00:35:27,764 --> 00:35:29,642 threatened to e-mail them to everyone he knew, 583 00:35:29,666 --> 00:35:31,143 all his family and friends, if he didn't pay up, 584 00:35:31,167 --> 00:35:32,745 'cause she'd downloaded his contacts. 585 00:35:32,769 --> 00:35:34,780 Anyway, he couldn't pay what she was asking, 586 00:35:34,804 --> 00:35:36,716 and she ruined his life. 587 00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:40,177 He lost his family, he lost his job, his dignity. He became an alcoholic. 588 00:35:43,713 --> 00:35:46,692 That's his name and number if you want to pass it on. 589 00:35:46,716 --> 00:35:50,596 'Cause whoever killed her could've been someone she was blackmailing. 590 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:51,781 Thank you. 591 00:35:53,924 --> 00:35:55,701 You want to get yourself home to bed. 592 00:35:55,725 --> 00:35:57,819 Uh, I know. Yeah, thank you. Thanks. 593 00:36:14,844 --> 00:36:17,609 - Morning. - Morning... ma'am. 594 00:36:22,419 --> 00:36:24,096 That John Wadsworth. 595 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,066 He's not this detective you told our Daniel about, is he? 596 00:36:27,090 --> 00:36:28,434 Why? 597 00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:31,938 No, I just... I think you did well to avoid that one. 598 00:36:31,962 --> 00:36:32,906 Why? 599 00:36:32,930 --> 00:36:34,173 I just gave him some information 600 00:36:34,197 --> 00:36:36,309 that I thought might be pertinent to the investigation, 601 00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:39,979 about this fella that Vicky Fleming blackmailed years ago. 602 00:36:40,003 --> 00:36:42,448 And he has this glazed look in his eye. Like... Durr. 603 00:36:42,472 --> 00:36:44,383 - What, and you think it's him? - Who? 604 00:36:44,407 --> 00:36:46,118 The fella she blackmailed? 605 00:36:46,142 --> 00:36:47,142 No. 606 00:36:47,844 --> 00:36:50,404 No. But I'm thinking... 607 00:36:53,049 --> 00:36:57,863 Whoever did it could be someone else she's blackmailed. 608 00:36:57,887 --> 00:37:01,067 Whereas he's... Really not interested, right over his head. 609 00:37:01,091 --> 00:37:03,469 You can do a lot better than that, love. 610 00:37:03,493 --> 00:37:05,860 Well, I didn't fancy him if that's what you were thinking. 611 00:37:08,665 --> 00:37:11,066 Good morning, you lucky people. 612 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:28,150 Oh! 613 00:37:53,309 --> 00:37:54,654 Morning. 614 00:37:54,678 --> 00:37:57,512 - Can I help? - Uh, yeah. I hope so. 615 00:37:58,248 --> 00:38:00,626 Uh, I'd like to speak to someone. 616 00:38:00,650 --> 00:38:03,596 I've got some information that might be relevant, uh, 617 00:38:03,620 --> 00:38:07,751 regarding the, um... Victoria Fleming. 618 00:38:09,125 --> 00:38:13,406 Right, this morning. We've got two people who've come forward. 619 00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:17,576 We've got, uh... Gary Sugden. 620 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,580 Yeah, who's the landlord of the Wills O'Nats pub up Slaithwaite. 621 00:38:21,604 --> 00:38:25,041 And Gemma Tomkinson, who works at the Travel Inn at Ainley Top. 622 00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:28,220 Both of them are saying they've seen a woman 623 00:38:28,244 --> 00:38:29,822 who they believe might have been Vicky Fleming, 624 00:38:29,846 --> 00:38:31,657 at their establishments, with a man. 625 00:38:31,681 --> 00:38:34,927 Both are talking about a man smartly dressed, professional, 626 00:38:34,951 --> 00:38:39,065 shirt and tie, suit, clean shaven, white, late 40s, early 50s, 627 00:38:39,089 --> 00:38:40,533 at around the time she went missing. 628 00:38:40,557 --> 00:38:44,203 She, this Gemma, describes the man as not looking very well. 629 00:38:44,227 --> 00:38:47,907 So, interviewing those two this morning takes priority. 630 00:38:47,931 --> 00:38:50,710 This Gemma also reckons they might still have some CCTV, 631 00:38:50,734 --> 00:38:52,478 even though it's more than 28 days since it happened. 632 00:38:52,502 --> 00:38:54,080 She's checked her records, 633 00:38:54,104 --> 00:38:58,417 and this was, uh, three days before the flat was burnt out. 634 00:38:58,441 --> 00:39:01,487 Three days before Vicky Fleming last turned up at work. 635 00:39:01,511 --> 00:39:04,590 We've also had a number of calls from people who were in Ripponden that night, 636 00:39:04,614 --> 00:39:08,176 these are all new people, people who did not come forward last time. 637 00:39:18,828 --> 00:39:21,889 Sorry. This is probably mad. 638 00:39:22,699 --> 00:39:26,178 But when we were doing house-to-house, weeks ago, me and John Wadsworth... 639 00:39:26,202 --> 00:39:28,981 And I'm not just saying this because he stood me up. 640 00:39:29,005 --> 00:39:31,217 He was never off his phone, making furtive phone calls. 641 00:39:31,241 --> 00:39:33,886 And I remember saying to Shaf, "He's having an affair." 642 00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:37,423 And then like, a couple of days later, a week after my mother died, 643 00:39:37,447 --> 00:39:40,426 he was asking me how he could get his hands on £1,000. 644 00:39:40,450 --> 00:39:42,161 And he looked like shit. 645 00:39:42,185 --> 00:39:44,697 I know everyone's busy thinking outside the box, 646 00:39:44,721 --> 00:39:47,500 but the fact does remain that it'd make a lot more sense 647 00:39:47,524 --> 00:39:49,789 if it was someone inside the investigation. 648 00:39:51,361 --> 00:39:54,039 Like, he was being blackmailed. 649 00:39:54,063 --> 00:39:57,009 Catherine. Uh, there's a fella. I've put him in there. 650 00:39:57,033 --> 00:39:58,811 - Graham Tattersall. - Mmm. 651 00:39:58,835 --> 00:40:01,213 He says he's got some information about Victoria Fleming, 652 00:40:01,237 --> 00:40:04,483 and he wants to see a detective, but they're still all up in the briefing 653 00:40:04,507 --> 00:40:05,785 and he's itching to get off to work. 654 00:40:05,809 --> 00:40:07,437 - So, could you... - Sure. 655 00:40:10,346 --> 00:40:12,057 It might be relevant. 656 00:40:12,081 --> 00:40:13,549 I'll mention it. 657 00:40:19,255 --> 00:40:21,000 Mr. Tattersall? I'm Sergeant Cawood. 658 00:40:21,024 --> 00:40:22,835 If you want to give me a few brief details, 659 00:40:22,859 --> 00:40:25,761 I can pass your information on to CID, and somebody will contact you. 660 00:40:26,896 --> 00:40:28,262 Uh, okay. 661 00:40:28,898 --> 00:40:36,715 Uh, well, the thing is, I've been having a... In a... Having a... 662 00:40:36,739 --> 00:40:41,887 In a... Relationship. 663 00:40:41,911 --> 00:40:45,157 Uh, she's married and I'm married. 664 00:40:45,181 --> 00:40:48,460 And her husband's having an affair with someone else. 665 00:40:48,484 --> 00:40:53,199 Anyway, he was away from home one night, "on obs," he said. 666 00:40:53,223 --> 00:40:56,268 He's a police officer. And I was round at her house. 667 00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:59,138 'Cause normally when he's on obs, he's out all night. 668 00:40:59,162 --> 00:41:03,943 So, um, this particular night, uh, 669 00:41:03,967 --> 00:41:06,061 he turned up 1:00 in the morning. 670 00:41:06,536 --> 00:41:07,847 Yeah. 671 00:41:07,871 --> 00:41:11,550 Which was exciting. 672 00:41:11,574 --> 00:41:16,255 The point is she rang me last night, Amanda, his wife did. 673 00:41:16,279 --> 00:41:17,990 And we checked our diaries. 674 00:41:18,014 --> 00:41:21,527 And it's the same night Victoria Fleming went missing. 675 00:41:21,551 --> 00:41:24,043 Well, the same night her flat was burnt out. 676 00:41:24,888 --> 00:41:27,566 Sorry, you think this bloke might have something to do with Vicky Fleming, 677 00:41:27,590 --> 00:41:29,468 because he caught you in bed with his wife at 1:00 in the morning? 678 00:41:29,492 --> 00:41:30,653 Yes. 679 00:41:32,495 --> 00:41:34,589 - What's his name? - John Wadsworth. 680 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,165 Paul, can you interview this Gemma Tomkinson? 681 00:41:40,236 --> 00:41:42,815 John, can you phone these people back who've left messages? 682 00:41:42,839 --> 00:41:46,752 I'm just gonna go to the chemist and get something for this, uh, cold. 683 00:41:46,776 --> 00:41:48,821 Oh, yeah. You do look like shit warmed up. 684 00:41:48,845 --> 00:41:50,089 I shan't be long. 685 00:41:50,113 --> 00:41:52,691 - Go home. - I'm fine. 686 00:41:52,715 --> 00:41:53,944 Alastair. 687 00:41:57,654 --> 00:41:59,031 He did this. 688 00:41:59,055 --> 00:42:01,867 After they'd arrested that lad, that first one, that Saturday morning. 689 00:42:01,891 --> 00:42:03,202 He must have thought he'd got away with it. 690 00:42:03,226 --> 00:42:05,170 He came round our house and he knocked me about. 691 00:42:05,194 --> 00:42:07,339 And that was interesting in itself, 'cause he was going, 692 00:42:07,363 --> 00:42:09,308 "Where is she then? Where's this woman I've been having this affair with?" 693 00:42:09,332 --> 00:42:10,664 I shan't be long. 694 00:42:13,636 --> 00:42:16,037 Obviously by then she was dead, so he could say that. 695 00:42:18,341 --> 00:42:19,502 John? 696 00:42:23,012 --> 00:42:24,012 John! 697 00:42:29,252 --> 00:42:30,252 John. 698 00:42:32,622 --> 00:42:33,885 John, wait. 699 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,425 I just want to talk to you! 700 00:42:41,831 --> 00:42:44,494 John! I just want to talk to you. 701 00:42:45,068 --> 00:42:46,068 John! 702 00:42:49,472 --> 00:42:53,000 Fucking idiot! What you doing? 703 00:42:54,377 --> 00:42:55,538 Jesus. 704 00:42:58,381 --> 00:43:01,026 Bravo November four-five. I'm chasing, it's complicated, 705 00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:02,661 but I'm chasing DS John Wadsworth, 706 00:43:02,685 --> 00:43:05,553 who I believe has been involved in the murder of Vicky Fleming. 707 00:43:08,791 --> 00:43:10,836 Follow that BMW. Put your foot down. 708 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:13,205 Units to Sowerby Bridge railway station. 709 00:43:16,733 --> 00:43:19,511 For once in your life in the right place at the right time, 710 00:43:19,535 --> 00:43:22,281 doesn't it feel good, eh? 711 00:43:22,305 --> 00:43:24,570 God knows what his plans are, but this is a dead end. 712 00:43:25,241 --> 00:43:27,472 Oh, bollocks! 713 00:43:36,886 --> 00:43:37,886 Oh! 714 00:43:41,424 --> 00:43:42,790 Throw it broadside! 715 00:43:51,501 --> 00:43:52,867 Hand brake! 716 00:43:54,771 --> 00:43:56,933 That's B-R-A-K-E. 717 00:44:12,688 --> 00:44:14,714 He's heading straight for the tracks. 718 00:44:15,291 --> 00:44:18,022 Four-five. Do not follow. 719 00:44:20,196 --> 00:44:23,758 Brava November four-five, do not follow. 720 00:44:27,937 --> 00:44:28,937 Bollocks. 721 00:44:55,531 --> 00:44:56,692 Oh, fuck. 722 00:45:03,106 --> 00:45:04,665 Oh! Oh! 723 00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:08,339 You don't come near me! 724 00:45:08,945 --> 00:45:12,424 John, it's not that high. You're not gonna... 725 00:45:12,448 --> 00:45:14,426 You're just gonna break your legs and make a mess. 726 00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:16,128 - Piss off! - Shit. 727 00:45:16,152 --> 00:45:18,832 He's on the bridge opposite the nick, he looks like he's gonna jump. 728 00:45:19,789 --> 00:45:21,348 Shit. 729 00:45:23,059 --> 00:45:26,438 Come on, we both know she was blackmailing you! 730 00:45:26,462 --> 00:45:28,440 And I burnt the evidence, didn't I! 731 00:45:28,464 --> 00:45:30,709 There's other people's evidence. 732 00:45:30,733 --> 00:45:34,693 There's this Neil bloke I told you about, for one. And there's... 733 00:45:35,805 --> 00:45:37,449 More than likely there's others. 734 00:45:37,473 --> 00:45:39,237 She spiked my drink! 735 00:45:40,076 --> 00:45:44,289 She took photos of me looking stupid and she was going to send them to people! 736 00:45:44,313 --> 00:45:45,924 - I know. - Everybody! 737 00:45:45,948 --> 00:45:49,595 People I work with, my mother, my kids, 738 00:45:49,619 --> 00:45:53,432 people I don't even know that well! They're just people... 739 00:45:53,456 --> 00:45:54,766 People you don't even like, 740 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:57,302 just people you've had on your phone for years! 741 00:45:57,326 --> 00:45:58,988 Yeah, I know! I know. 742 00:45:59,629 --> 00:46:01,974 I know how she operated. 743 00:46:01,998 --> 00:46:05,544 Look, she ruined people's lives. I tell you, this bloke I know... 744 00:46:05,568 --> 00:46:09,027 I asked her to just let me go and she wouldn't, and I begged her! 745 00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:12,831 And I didn't mean to kill her. 746 00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:17,844 Well, I didn't go in there to kill her, it just... 747 00:46:21,817 --> 00:46:24,912 And so I did this ridiculous thing to her. 748 00:46:26,789 --> 00:46:27,916 Hideous. 749 00:46:29,625 --> 00:46:30,503 And God knows... 750 00:46:30,527 --> 00:46:33,038 That's not me. That's not what I'm like. I'm not. 751 00:46:33,062 --> 00:46:35,073 I'm not a monster, I never have been. 752 00:46:35,097 --> 00:46:35,909 John. 753 00:46:35,933 --> 00:46:38,060 You come any closer, I'll take you with me! 754 00:46:39,835 --> 00:46:44,466 You were blackmailed. It was provocation. That's mitigating circumstances. 755 00:46:45,107 --> 00:46:49,655 And it sounds to me like manslaughter. It's 10 years, less. 756 00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:52,057 And you and me both know you could be out. 757 00:46:52,081 --> 00:46:54,107 Yeah, but I'll never work again. 758 00:46:55,351 --> 00:46:56,395 Have you got children? 759 00:46:56,419 --> 00:46:57,130 Oh! 760 00:46:57,154 --> 00:46:59,631 - No, I'm sorry. I am sorry. - Shut up! 761 00:46:59,655 --> 00:47:02,834 Sorry. Sorry. 762 00:47:02,858 --> 00:47:03,858 I've... 763 00:47:07,463 --> 00:47:11,730 I've not done any negotiating courses. Have you? 764 00:47:13,569 --> 00:47:14,798 Yeah. 765 00:47:15,972 --> 00:47:18,217 Suicide intervention training. 766 00:47:18,241 --> 00:47:19,402 So... 767 00:47:19,842 --> 00:47:20,901 So... 768 00:47:22,078 --> 00:47:23,876 So, what should I be saying to you? 769 00:47:27,216 --> 00:47:28,161 Well, you should be telling me 770 00:47:28,185 --> 00:47:30,562 that you're here to make sure I get out of this alive. 771 00:47:30,586 --> 00:47:34,366 Yeah, well, I am. I am here for that. 772 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:36,535 You should use my name a lot. 773 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,425 Okay. John. 774 00:47:40,363 --> 00:47:42,341 You've got to be assertive. 775 00:47:42,365 --> 00:47:45,961 Reassuring. Empathetic and kind. 776 00:47:47,069 --> 00:47:49,615 And you've got to listen. You've got to be a good listener. 777 00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:53,919 And you tell them that even though they can't see a way forward, you can. 778 00:47:53,943 --> 00:47:58,824 And that in 24 hours' time, it'll all seem very different 779 00:47:58,848 --> 00:48:01,126 to what it might look like now. 780 00:48:01,150 --> 00:48:03,362 But you see, it won't. 781 00:48:03,386 --> 00:48:04,786 This can only get worse. 782 00:48:06,689 --> 00:48:09,301 How many people have you talked down over the years, John? 783 00:48:09,325 --> 00:48:10,769 Seventeen. 784 00:48:10,793 --> 00:48:11,738 Wow. 785 00:48:11,762 --> 00:48:14,006 And I never lost one. Not one. 786 00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:17,990 One lad jumped before I got there, but apart from him. 787 00:48:19,335 --> 00:48:21,079 So, what you gonna do? 788 00:48:21,103 --> 00:48:23,834 Mess my record up before I've even started? 789 00:48:26,709 --> 00:48:31,023 You take your time, and I'll just... I'll just stand here. Okay? 790 00:48:31,047 --> 00:48:34,126 I'm not going anywhere. All right? 791 00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:36,361 I'll just listen. Or I'll talk. Whichever you prefer. 792 00:48:36,385 --> 00:48:38,115 You tell me, John. 793 00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,187 I love my kids. 794 00:48:45,861 --> 00:48:46,861 Yeah. 795 00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:55,770 Oh! 796 00:49:02,912 --> 00:49:05,143 I really need an ETA on the ambulance. Thank you. 797 00:49:15,624 --> 00:49:17,525 - Y'all right, Sarg? - Yeah. 798 00:49:52,461 --> 00:49:54,589 There but for the grace of God. 799 00:49:55,898 --> 00:49:57,676 Really? 800 00:49:57,700 --> 00:50:00,078 He stuck a broken bottle inside her and then prayed to God 801 00:50:00,102 --> 00:50:02,314 someone else'd get copped for it. 802 00:50:02,338 --> 00:50:05,536 That isn't what I said to him, by the way. I did try and talk him down. 803 00:50:06,675 --> 00:50:08,303 I'm pleased to hear it. 804 00:50:11,213 --> 00:50:12,511 You all right? 805 00:50:14,083 --> 00:50:16,814 I thought I'd got through to him. I thought he was stepping down. 806 00:50:18,587 --> 00:50:21,819 Then he just went limp. And this odd look came over his face. 807 00:50:27,797 --> 00:50:29,925 He said, "I love my kids." 808 00:50:33,803 --> 00:50:36,272 What a shit week! 809 00:50:39,108 --> 00:50:40,167 Sorry. 810 00:50:43,179 --> 00:50:46,491 I've had some more information through from the DIU. 811 00:50:46,515 --> 00:50:49,246 About some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors. 812 00:50:50,619 --> 00:50:51,863 Oh, yeah? 813 00:50:51,887 --> 00:50:53,856 Interesting reading. 814 00:50:55,124 --> 00:50:57,753 And I've had a message from the prison liaison service as well. 815 00:51:06,535 --> 00:51:08,504 It's all right, son, sit down. 816 00:51:09,705 --> 00:51:11,316 It's bad news, I'm afraid. 817 00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:13,952 Pending an inquiry into some of the people who visit you, 818 00:51:13,976 --> 00:51:16,688 it's been decided by the Wing Supervisor, and others 819 00:51:16,712 --> 00:51:21,193 that your visits and your phone calls will be suspended for a while as of now. 820 00:51:21,217 --> 00:51:22,310 Why? 821 00:51:22,918 --> 00:51:24,716 That's all I can tell you. 822 00:51:28,557 --> 00:51:32,571 Suspended? What? Everyone who visits me? 823 00:51:32,595 --> 00:51:34,339 - As I've explained. - Phone calls? 824 00:51:34,363 --> 00:51:35,740 - Yeah. - Why? 825 00:51:35,764 --> 00:51:38,543 I've told you everything I can. 826 00:51:38,567 --> 00:51:40,378 Calm down. 827 00:51:40,402 --> 00:51:41,680 Don't do that, Tommy. 828 00:51:41,704 --> 00:51:42,981 You fucking bastard! 829 00:51:43,005 --> 00:51:44,906 - Calm down. - Fucking bastard! 830 00:52:07,329 --> 00:52:08,957 - Hello, Frances. - What do you want? 831 00:52:12,635 --> 00:52:15,264 These are some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors. 832 00:52:16,305 --> 00:52:17,705 That one, Gina Flynn, 833 00:52:18,974 --> 00:52:21,987 she's a 45-year-old accountant from Warwick. 834 00:52:22,011 --> 00:52:24,480 Turns out he's engaged to her as well as you. 835 00:52:26,081 --> 00:52:29,895 And that one, Justine Niewinski, she's from Essex. 836 00:52:29,919 --> 00:52:33,447 A student. Major in politics. She's 23. 837 00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:35,849 He's engaged to her as well. 838 00:52:36,759 --> 00:52:40,457 And that one, Lena Dixon, fitness instructor from Leicestershire. 839 00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:43,460 Also engaged to him. 840 00:52:49,438 --> 00:52:51,669 You take care of yourself. Okay? 841 00:53:01,483 --> 00:53:02,794 Hiya. 842 00:53:02,818 --> 00:53:03,862 Hi, Sarg. 843 00:53:03,886 --> 00:53:05,566 Do you wanna go get yourself a cup of tea? 844 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:16,098 Hello, Alison. 845 00:53:27,142 --> 00:53:28,440 How are you? 846 00:53:41,924 --> 00:53:44,086 I can't begin to imagine how you must feel. 847 00:53:45,427 --> 00:53:47,453 But I just wanted to tell you that 848 00:53:48,897 --> 00:53:50,365 I had a daughter. 849 00:53:52,167 --> 00:53:53,260 That died. 850 00:53:55,070 --> 00:53:56,504 She was 18. 851 00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:01,987 And I know it's not the same, but it's all I've got 852 00:54:02,011 --> 00:54:03,502 to relate it to. 853 00:54:06,482 --> 00:54:08,314 And I just wanted to say 854 00:54:09,818 --> 00:54:12,219 won't be short of someone to talk to 855 00:54:15,157 --> 00:54:16,523 if you want to. 856 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,623 You know where I am. 857 00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:22,393 That's my number. 858 00:54:28,404 --> 00:54:29,804 You can always ring me. 859 00:54:53,595 --> 00:54:55,195 There's your post, sweet cheeks. 860 00:56:05,834 --> 00:56:07,894 You okay? 861 00:56:10,773 --> 00:56:13,675 It was odd the other day talking to Alison in the hospital. 862 00:56:14,843 --> 00:56:15,902 Why? 863 00:56:17,012 --> 00:56:18,412 She told me her story. 864 00:56:20,916 --> 00:56:22,043 You know... 865 00:56:24,086 --> 00:56:26,920 Yet another everyday story of country folk. 866 00:56:30,959 --> 00:56:31,983 Her dad. 867 00:56:34,163 --> 00:56:35,893 He interfered with her. 868 00:56:38,133 --> 00:56:40,762 Daryl was his son, not his grandson. 869 00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:42,868 Jesus. 870 00:56:44,873 --> 00:56:47,900 She brought up this kid, this child, 871 00:56:51,146 --> 00:56:52,944 this aberration 872 00:56:53,982 --> 00:56:55,974 that she loved and hated because 873 00:56:57,953 --> 00:56:59,649 what else could she do? 874 00:57:02,991 --> 00:57:05,670 And she was terrified of him finding out, 875 00:57:05,694 --> 00:57:09,374 so she tried to stop him bothering with the local lads. 876 00:57:09,398 --> 00:57:11,509 So, they picked on him. 877 00:57:11,533 --> 00:57:14,526 And they knew anyway. They knew something. Somehow. 878 00:57:16,038 --> 00:57:18,269 So, they became like outcasts, 879 00:57:19,208 --> 00:57:20,676 pariahs. 880 00:57:22,644 --> 00:57:24,636 Something to poke fun at. 881 00:57:28,350 --> 00:57:29,978 I said, "Did he ever know?" 882 00:57:32,955 --> 00:57:36,634 And she said she thought he'd worked it out. 883 00:57:36,658 --> 00:57:38,718 Although they never talked about it. 884 00:57:41,129 --> 00:57:43,621 She said, "Because I never had the language." 885 00:57:49,371 --> 00:57:50,964 And I thought, "Yeah. 886 00:57:54,076 --> 00:57:55,476 "I know." 887 00:58:07,089 --> 00:58:08,751 Can we get a dog? - No. 888 00:58:09,424 --> 00:58:10,735 Why? 889 00:58:10,759 --> 00:58:12,470 Because you won't look after it. 890 00:58:12,494 --> 00:58:16,140 No, I would. I will. I'll walk it and feed it and everything. 891 00:58:16,164 --> 00:58:17,996 Yeah, for the first week. 892 00:58:18,567 --> 00:58:23,381 - So, I was thinking maybe a Rottweiler. - Oh, are you? 893 00:58:23,405 --> 00:58:25,850 - An Alsatian then. - An orangutan. 894 00:58:25,874 --> 00:58:26,851 Perfect. 895 00:58:26,875 --> 00:58:29,401 - Okay, a Doberman. - Yeah, right. 896 00:58:30,312 --> 00:58:31,890 - A Great Dane. - Nope. 897 00:58:31,914 --> 00:58:35,526 A Siberian husky. A St. Bernard! 898 00:58:35,550 --> 00:58:37,328 Is that a yes? 899 00:58:37,352 --> 00:58:40,498 - Why can't you get something smaller? - Like a pit bull? 900 00:58:40,522 --> 00:58:41,900 No, like a goldfish. 901 00:58:41,924 --> 00:58:44,869 Fish are rubbish! You can't talk to a fish! 902 00:58:44,893 --> 00:58:48,439 I need something with some more personality. 903 00:58:48,463 --> 00:58:50,208 Granny. Granny. 904 00:58:50,232 --> 00:58:52,911 I'd get him a dog just to shut him up if I were you, Mother.