1 00:00:01,110 --> 00:00:03,550 Congratulations! He's been charged. That fella you tipped us off about. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,609 Have you not heard? Apparently another body's turned up. 3 00:00:06,659 --> 00:00:08,850 I bet he'd love to see you. 4 00:00:08,899 --> 00:00:12,490 - I wondered about writing to him. - You should. 5 00:00:12,539 --> 00:00:14,369 A couple of weeks ago, that new Miss Wealand. 6 00:00:14,420 --> 00:00:17,290 Asking Ryan questions about his dad. Have you met her? 7 00:00:17,339 --> 00:00:18,450 It's her. 8 00:00:18,499 --> 00:00:19,490 I've done things. 9 00:00:19,540 --> 00:00:20,810 Is it to do with those women? 10 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:22,850 You'll visit me, won't you? In prison. 11 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:25,240 I don't think you'd like prison. 12 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:54,529 Ah. 13 00:00:54,579 --> 00:00:58,649 Long story sideways. Our Ryan has been coming home from school 14 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:01,529 talking about Tommy Lee Royce as this poor misunderstood fella 15 00:01:01,579 --> 00:01:03,649 that we all need to forgive. 16 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:06,369 Someone in this school is putting ideas into his head. 17 00:01:06,419 --> 00:01:09,289 Someone left a birthday present, an expensive birthday present, 18 00:01:09,339 --> 00:01:12,130 on our doorstep with a card "from Dad". 19 00:01:12,179 --> 00:01:15,530 Now, he is starting to think of that evil, twisted, murdering bastard 20 00:01:15,580 --> 00:01:18,850 as his father because some deluded tw... 21 00:01:18,899 --> 00:01:21,530 Someone in this school is filling his head 22 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:23,919 with deeply inappropriate ideas. 23 00:01:26,699 --> 00:01:28,970 Do you recognise that person? 24 00:01:32,979 --> 00:01:35,289 - No. - It's a woman, it ain't a lad. 25 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:38,889 Our Clare thinks it looks like Miss Wealand, your new TA. 26 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:41,729 That's someone in the toyshop in Hebden buying exactly the same toy 27 00:01:41,780 --> 00:01:44,569 that was left on our doorstep two weeks ago "from Dad". 28 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:46,530 Now, obviously she could have been buying it 29 00:01:46,579 --> 00:01:48,050 for some completely other reason. 30 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:49,810 But it's a bit of a coincidence, isn't it? 31 00:01:49,859 --> 00:01:52,569 Has Ryan said that it's her that's been talking about his dad? 32 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:55,729 No. It's delicate. I can't talk to him about it. He gets angry with me. 33 00:01:55,780 --> 00:01:57,929 Look, this is how insidious it is. I'm the baddie. 34 00:01:57,979 --> 00:02:00,090 Look. I'm not saying you're wrong, Catherine. 35 00:02:00,139 --> 00:02:03,250 But Miss Wealand is a very kind, caring, lovely woman, 36 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:04,929 she came to us with an excellent CV. 37 00:02:04,979 --> 00:02:07,369 I'm sure she is, I'm sure that's how she operates. 38 00:02:07,419 --> 00:02:10,210 Her and every other deluded nutcase that's ever groomed a kiddie. 39 00:02:10,259 --> 00:02:11,569 - Groomed? - Well, it's what it is. 40 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:13,889 If every time they have a one-to-one reading session, 41 00:02:13,940 --> 00:02:16,690 she's encouraging him to think about his "dad" in some misguided, 42 00:02:16,739 --> 00:02:19,049 - sentimental way... - Hang on, look, we don't know that 43 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:21,410 that is what's happening. Why would anybody do that? 44 00:02:21,460 --> 00:02:23,169 Cos people are weird. 45 00:02:23,220 --> 00:02:25,489 People are mad, and they don't always have it 46 00:02:25,539 --> 00:02:27,289 tattooed across their forehead. 47 00:02:27,340 --> 00:02:31,329 The staff in this school are fully aware of the situation with Ryan. 48 00:02:31,380 --> 00:02:32,729 Does she work part time? 49 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:34,530 Yes, Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays. 50 00:02:34,579 --> 00:02:36,810 - What does she do on her days off? - I've... I don't know. 51 00:02:36,859 --> 00:02:38,329 - Where does she live? - Catherine. 52 00:02:38,380 --> 00:02:40,449 - Does she talk about her private life? - Not to me. 53 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,410 You see, when that present appeared on our doorstep and I saw that 54 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:44,970 card, my first thought is... 55 00:02:45,020 --> 00:02:46,810 "This is someone who visits him in prison." 56 00:02:46,859 --> 00:02:48,690 I can't believe she visits anyone in prison. 57 00:02:48,739 --> 00:02:50,449 This is someone he's manipulated and... 58 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:52,770 Let me introduce you to her. Come and meet her, please, 59 00:02:52,819 --> 00:02:53,929 come and see for yourself. 60 00:02:53,979 --> 00:02:56,850 Honestly, Catherine, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised. 61 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:59,489 No, cos we'll know soon enough if it's her, because the DIU are 62 00:02:59,539 --> 00:03:01,729 investigating everybody he has any contact with. 63 00:03:01,780 --> 00:03:04,569 In the meantime, if you could find someone else to read with him, 64 00:03:04,620 --> 00:03:07,049 I'd be very grateful, because every second -- if it is her, 65 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:09,650 and maybe it isn't, but if it is her -- 66 00:03:09,699 --> 00:03:11,049 every second he spends with her, 67 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:13,650 she is encouraging him to think about this man as his father. 68 00:03:13,699 --> 00:03:17,289 This psychopath, this man who's done nothing but destroy people's lives. 69 00:03:17,340 --> 00:03:19,850 This man who threw petrol over him 18 months ago. 70 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,729 Someone here, for whatever reason, is encouraging him to think that 71 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:28,169 he is basically an OK guy and that I am some nasty, angry bitch 72 00:03:28,220 --> 00:03:31,009 for doing my damnedest to try and protect him from him. 73 00:03:31,060 --> 00:03:32,199 OK. 74 00:03:33,660 --> 00:03:35,569 I can't talk to her, I can't get involved, 75 00:03:35,620 --> 00:03:38,329 I need to let the DIU deal with it, but I need you to be aware. 76 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:39,650 Right. 77 00:04:07,859 --> 00:04:10,609 ♪ There's a tower block overhead 78 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:14,220 ♪ All you've got's your benefits and you're barely scraping by 79 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:22,820 ♪ In this trouble town Troubles I've found 80 00:04:28,739 --> 00:04:32,570 ♪ Stuck in speed bump city Where the only thing that's pretty 81 00:04:32,619 --> 00:04:35,090 ♪ Is the thought of getting out. ♪ 82 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:42,850 - You all right? - Yeah. 83 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,489 - You seem a bit preoccupied. - I'm fine. 84 00:04:45,539 --> 00:04:48,770 - You do know we're not going to get a cup of tea, don't you? - Yeah, well... 85 00:04:48,820 --> 00:04:51,570 I just want to make it clear 86 00:04:51,619 --> 00:04:54,249 to Alison that I am still dealing with them scrotes, 87 00:04:54,299 --> 00:04:59,609 despite Daryl's sophisticated, delicate efforts to take 88 00:04:59,660 --> 00:05:01,799 the law into his own hands. 89 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:13,780 Sarge. 90 00:05:17,780 --> 00:05:19,609 Was it like that when you arrested him? 91 00:05:19,660 --> 00:05:20,890 I don't know. 92 00:05:20,939 --> 00:05:22,210 I can't remember. 93 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:25,260 I've an idea it was parked the other way round. 94 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:38,609 Hello? 95 00:05:38,660 --> 00:05:40,259 Alison? 96 00:05:42,379 --> 00:05:43,780 Daryl? 97 00:05:49,780 --> 00:05:51,179 Hello? 98 00:06:10,460 --> 00:06:11,820 Alison? 99 00:06:13,780 --> 00:06:15,780 Alison, can you hear me? 100 00:06:21,859 --> 00:06:24,129 Alison, it's Catherine Cawood. 101 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:26,809 Sergeant Cawood. 102 00:06:28,179 --> 00:06:29,689 Alison, listen, love, listen to me, 103 00:06:29,739 --> 00:06:31,729 I want you to squeeze my hand if you can hear me. 104 00:06:31,780 --> 00:06:33,929 Check upstairs. See if there's anyone else, 105 00:06:33,979 --> 00:06:36,320 anyone injured. And be careful. 106 00:06:43,859 --> 00:06:46,809 Bravo November 4-5. Urgent assistance required. 107 00:06:46,859 --> 00:06:50,210 Far Sunderland Farm, up Wainstalls, off Cold Edge Road. 108 00:06:50,259 --> 00:06:52,729 I need an ambulance, there's a 40-something woman, 109 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:54,770 Alison Garrs, suspected overdose. 110 00:06:54,820 --> 00:06:56,650 Diazepam, not sure how many, 111 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:59,609 she seems to have washed them down with vodka and whisky. 112 00:06:59,660 --> 00:07:02,330 Her pulse is weak, but she's conscious and breathing. 113 00:07:02,379 --> 00:07:03,850 Alison? 114 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:05,169 Alison. 115 00:07:06,499 --> 00:07:08,609 There's also a male. 116 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:10,890 I'm fairly certain it's her son, Daryl Garrs. 117 00:07:10,939 --> 00:07:13,249 Fatal gunshot injury to the back of the head. 118 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:15,729 Possible weapon at the scene. I need F-Sup here to prove. 119 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:18,890 I need the on-call DI, I need the duty SIO, I need a CSI, 120 00:07:18,939 --> 00:07:22,179 I need any available troops to come and secure the scene. 121 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:26,660 God knows what's happened... 122 00:07:27,220 --> 00:07:28,450 .. but it's carnage. 123 00:07:28,499 --> 00:07:30,770 'I've got all that for the log, Sarge. 124 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:32,770 'Is there anything else?' 125 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:34,609 I'll keep you posted. 126 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:36,129 Alison? Who's done this, Alison? 127 00:07:36,179 --> 00:07:38,809 Who's done this to Daryl, Alison? 128 00:07:38,859 --> 00:07:41,330 - No... - Alison? Can you hear me? 129 00:07:43,220 --> 00:07:45,809 You put your arm round me, come on. 130 00:07:45,859 --> 00:07:47,929 - Upstairs is clear! - Let's get her out of this. 131 00:07:47,979 --> 00:07:50,650 - I thought you weren't supposed to move people. - Just...! 132 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:53,820 - Where shall I get hold of her? - Man up, princess, use your initiative! 133 00:07:58,660 --> 00:08:01,890 'Ambulance on its way to you now, 4-5, from Keighley. 134 00:08:01,939 --> 00:08:03,489 'ETA 16 minutes.' 135 00:08:03,539 --> 00:08:04,650 Keighley?! 136 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:07,100 'They're all tied up in Halifax.' 137 00:08:10,580 --> 00:08:12,850 Get your mobile out, dial 999. 138 00:08:13,739 --> 00:08:16,369 Alison! I need a paramedic talking to me, 139 00:08:16,419 --> 00:08:18,570 I need to know what the latest is with an overdose. 140 00:08:18,619 --> 00:08:23,210 Hello, there, it's Constable Shafiq Shah here, collar number 9242, I've got a lady here, she's taken... 141 00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:25,570 - Diazepam, whisky, vodka. - .. diazepam, whisky, vodka. 142 00:08:25,619 --> 00:08:27,770 We need advice, ambulance is going to be 16 minutes. 143 00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:31,809 - Come on, don't fall asleep on me, I need you awake. - Conscious, but struggling to stay with us. 144 00:08:31,859 --> 00:08:35,649 Alison, listen. Alison, who shot Daryl? 145 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:37,639 Who did that to Daryl? 146 00:08:38,220 --> 00:08:39,330 I don't know. 147 00:08:39,379 --> 00:08:41,369 Who was here? Did you see what happened, Alison? 148 00:08:41,420 --> 00:08:42,810 Who was here? 149 00:08:42,859 --> 00:08:44,649 Nobody. Nobody was here. 150 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:48,300 Right, you need to induce her to vomit -- yeah, then what? 151 00:08:48,460 --> 00:08:50,129 Then you... Then clear the airway 152 00:08:50,180 --> 00:08:52,090 and put her in the recovery position. 153 00:08:52,139 --> 00:08:54,369 OK... Tell you what, you go back inside 154 00:08:54,420 --> 00:08:56,889 and get some water, and a blanket. 155 00:08:57,259 --> 00:09:00,609 And try not to-to tread on anything... like the floor, 156 00:09:00,659 --> 00:09:02,170 any more than you have to. 157 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:05,769 'The request's gone in to F-Sup, 4-5. CID've been informed and they're on the way. 158 00:09:05,820 --> 00:09:09,249 'I've also put the request in for a CSI. Is there anything else I can help you with?' 159 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:11,290 What's the best way to make someone sick? 160 00:09:11,340 --> 00:09:14,619 - 'Stick your fingers down their throat?' - Oh, yeah, and get my hand bitten off? 161 00:09:16,739 --> 00:09:19,259 OK, Alison. Listen to me. 162 00:09:23,779 --> 00:09:25,649 I need you to be sick. 163 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:27,820 No, no, no, no. 164 00:09:28,979 --> 00:09:32,619 No. Alison. I know it's not pleasant. 165 00:09:34,460 --> 00:09:37,889 I just... want to... lie down. 166 00:09:37,940 --> 00:09:40,570 You can lie down, but I just need you to be sick first. 167 00:09:40,619 --> 00:09:41,940 No. 168 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:46,850 Can you stick your fingers down your throat for me? 169 00:09:46,899 --> 00:09:48,040 No. 170 00:09:50,180 --> 00:09:52,570 I can't let you go to sleep until you've been sick, Alison. 171 00:09:52,619 --> 00:09:55,560 You're not lying down until you've been sick. 172 00:09:56,659 --> 00:09:58,050 Alison. 173 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:01,060 - Sh. It's fine. - No, stay awake, Alison! 174 00:10:04,139 --> 00:10:06,009 Right. Who shot Daryl? Alison. 175 00:10:06,060 --> 00:10:08,220 Alison? 176 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:10,690 Alison. 177 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:16,170 I shot Daryl. 178 00:10:16,220 --> 00:10:19,100 You? You shot...? You? 179 00:10:20,180 --> 00:10:24,300 You shot Daryl? You... You shot... 180 00:10:25,979 --> 00:10:29,479 Why, Alison, why would you do... Why would you do that? 181 00:11:04,499 --> 00:11:08,570 Bravo November 4-5. Could you contact Mr Shepherd or DI Shackleton 182 00:11:08,619 --> 00:11:10,930 at Norland Road and tell them 183 00:11:10,979 --> 00:11:14,850 there's a vehicle here that could be involved in Operation Syracuse? 184 00:11:14,899 --> 00:11:16,499 A Peugeot 205. 185 00:11:17,859 --> 00:11:19,259 It's red. 186 00:11:20,499 --> 00:11:22,040 It's damaged. 187 00:11:23,019 --> 00:11:24,690 'Will do, 4-5.' 188 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:30,249 Alison, did you really? 189 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:31,570 Alison. 190 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:44,100 I'm going to have to caution you. 191 00:11:47,139 --> 00:11:48,279 OK. 192 00:11:50,139 --> 00:11:51,940 I'm arresting you. 193 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:57,180 Do you understand? I'm arresting you on suspicion of murder. 194 00:11:59,979 --> 00:12:02,320 You don't have to say anything. 195 00:12:03,220 --> 00:12:04,570 But it may harm your defence 196 00:12:04,619 --> 00:12:07,290 if you do not mention when questioned... 197 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:09,940 something you later rely on in court. 198 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:14,639 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 199 00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:19,379 I don't feel so good. 200 00:12:42,139 --> 00:12:44,609 Steve. Can I borrow you for a bit? 201 00:12:46,259 --> 00:12:48,999 What's...? Has there been a development? 202 00:12:50,659 --> 00:12:55,210 A woman, up Wainstalls, has just shot her own son 203 00:12:55,259 --> 00:12:56,889 in the back of the head. 204 00:12:56,940 --> 00:12:58,330 By accident? 205 00:12:58,379 --> 00:13:02,050 No. She's taken an overdose, pissed out of her skull. 206 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:03,330 And apparently, 207 00:13:03,379 --> 00:13:06,649 the reason she did it -- she's just told Catherine Cawood -- 208 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:10,379 is because the son told her about "what he did to those women". 209 00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:14,330 Is he dead? 210 00:13:14,379 --> 00:13:16,850 Well dead, by the sound of things. 211 00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:19,609 Jesus. 212 00:13:19,659 --> 00:13:21,180 I know. 213 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:24,729 I need everyone in the briefing room. 214 00:13:24,779 --> 00:13:28,540 Apparently, he also said he "didn't do that Vicky Fleming one". 215 00:13:30,379 --> 00:13:34,259 Can I get everyone in the briefing room now, folks, please? Thank you. 216 00:13:36,180 --> 00:13:39,609 And he told his mother he wouldn't have had to do that last one 217 00:13:39,659 --> 00:13:43,499 if people hadn't "kept thinking that he'd done that Vicky Fleming one". 218 00:13:45,979 --> 00:13:49,529 We need to reassess everything we've got on Vicky Fleming. 219 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:53,330 We need to find this mysterious boyfriend one of her colleagues at work mentioned. 220 00:13:53,379 --> 00:13:56,580 The one we thought Vicky must have been making up. 221 00:14:33,859 --> 00:14:35,859 How's it going up there? 222 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:39,769 Like Piccadilly Circus when I left. 223 00:14:39,820 --> 00:14:42,290 More detectives than primetime TV. 224 00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:45,859 I think they'll be there a while. 225 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:49,009 Are you OK? 226 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:58,100 She shot her own child in the back of the head. 227 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:03,170 Are you still seeing that therapist? 228 00:15:03,220 --> 00:15:04,420 Yes! 229 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:10,139 Yeah. 230 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:15,810 I've got some intel for you. Tommy Lee Royce's Scottish visitor 231 00:15:15,859 --> 00:15:18,090 is a woman called Frances Drummond. 232 00:15:18,139 --> 00:15:21,050 45 years old, she's a pharmacist from Linlithgow. 233 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:23,570 Well, she was until very recently. 234 00:15:24,139 --> 00:15:25,930 They've sent a photo. 235 00:15:25,979 --> 00:15:29,739 And I'm wondering if it's that woman in that CCTV from the toyshop. 236 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:35,090 So, if that's Frances Drummond... who's "Miss Wealand", then? 237 00:15:35,139 --> 00:15:36,409 Well... 238 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:39,200 she's invented Miss Wealand, hasn't she? 239 00:15:39,779 --> 00:15:41,769 Mrs Beresford told me this morning, 240 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:44,420 "She came to us with an excellent CV." 241 00:15:45,940 --> 00:15:49,220 Mrs Beresford isn't somebody who won't check out references. 242 00:15:53,739 --> 00:15:54,850 Shit. 243 00:15:54,899 --> 00:15:56,739 Shit. 244 00:15:58,060 --> 00:15:59,249 Hello? 245 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,810 You're not going to believe this, it's mental. She's mental. 246 00:16:01,859 --> 00:16:03,129 Who's mental? 247 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:07,489 Well, not Miss Wealand, because Miss Wealand, Cecily Wealand -- 248 00:16:07,540 --> 00:16:10,940 a qualified teaching assistant from Linlithgow -- is dead. 249 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:13,330 'What?' 250 00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:17,409 Dead, and had her identity stolen. 251 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:18,649 So who's... 252 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:23,489 She is called Frances Drummond. Also from Linlithgow. A pharmacist. 253 00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:24,930 God knows, don't ask. 254 00:16:24,979 --> 00:16:28,489 And she... visits Tommy Lee Royce in Gravesend 255 00:16:28,540 --> 00:16:32,369 and now lives in Hebden, as Cecily Wealand. 256 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:33,450 Shit! 257 00:16:33,499 --> 00:16:35,009 - 'Oh, shit.' - I know. 258 00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:38,529 No. I mean, do you want me to get round to t'school? 259 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:43,330 No. No, no, no, I'm just waiting for some intel from East Lothian. 260 00:16:43,379 --> 00:16:45,729 They're talking to Cecily Wealand's partner. 261 00:16:45,779 --> 00:16:47,409 Well, widower. 262 00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:49,409 I need a copy of the death certificate, 263 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:51,609 and then CID'll go in to arrest her for fraud. 264 00:16:51,659 --> 00:16:53,170 Wow. Fraud? 265 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:55,249 'Yeah. Fraud by false representation.' 266 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:57,489 We'll deal with whatever the hell she thinks she's been 267 00:16:57,540 --> 00:16:59,810 doing regarding our Ryan after we've dealt with that. 268 00:16:59,859 --> 00:17:01,609 Hang on, she's, she's, she's... 269 00:17:01,659 --> 00:17:03,090 'She's targeted him.' 270 00:17:03,139 --> 00:17:09,409 It's properly creepy, she's obtained a job she's not qualified for, 271 00:17:09,459 --> 00:17:13,129 'she's stolen a dead woman's identity' 272 00:17:13,179 --> 00:17:15,850 specifically because this woman 273 00:17:15,899 --> 00:17:18,530 had the right kind of qualifications to allow her to get 274 00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:22,649 close to Ryan so she could fill his head with pap about Tommy Lee Royce. 275 00:17:22,699 --> 00:17:27,379 Who she, Frances Drummond, visits in Gravesend. 276 00:17:30,060 --> 00:17:32,530 Phone, I've gotta go, bye, bye-bye. 277 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:46,540 So... Cecily Wealand was Frances Drummond's sister. 278 00:17:48,139 --> 00:17:51,409 48 years old, she had a stroke nine months ago. 279 00:17:51,459 --> 00:17:53,580 Her partner... 280 00:17:56,020 --> 00:18:00,540 Her husband... thinks when she died, Cecily... 281 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:07,449 He was in pieces, and Frances helped with a lot of practical stuff, 282 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:11,010 and he thinks that's when she might have got her hands on various 283 00:18:11,060 --> 00:18:13,399 bits of personal documentation. 284 00:18:15,379 --> 00:18:17,969 Right -- let's send 'em in to make the arrest. 285 00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:20,209 Have you got a number for this Mrs Beresford? 286 00:18:20,260 --> 00:18:22,010 I'll ring her and warn her they're coming. 287 00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:24,169 Then I'll get on to the prison liaison officer. 288 00:18:24,219 --> 00:18:28,119 They need to let Gravesend know he's been grooming this woman. 289 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:32,929 Sad, isn't it? No criminal record. 290 00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:35,250 She's held down a perfectly respectable job 291 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:36,689 for upward of 15 years. 292 00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:38,379 And then... 293 00:18:39,379 --> 00:18:42,209 .. she does this mad thing. 294 00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:43,800 And for what? 295 00:18:44,740 --> 00:18:47,449 45 minutes once a fortnight with a psychopath. 296 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:50,369 - 'Hello.' - Yes! Hello. It's Mike Taylor. 297 00:18:56,859 --> 00:19:00,290 I've got POLSA team pulling the place apart. 298 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,570 There's all sorts of stuff in his bedroom 299 00:19:02,619 --> 00:19:05,369 and chances are there'll be stuff he's hidden as well. I think... 300 00:19:05,419 --> 00:19:08,530 Dare I say it, I'll be surprised if this isn't him. 301 00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:10,850 Have you had time to think through a media strategy? 302 00:19:10,899 --> 00:19:13,409 Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news... 303 00:19:13,459 --> 00:19:16,209 - Did you fast-track that DNA swab they took last week? - I did, yeah. 304 00:19:16,260 --> 00:19:18,889 'Good. Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news, 305 00:19:18,939 --> 00:19:22,090 'I want images of Vicky Fleming out there big time. On every news channel. 306 00:19:22,139 --> 00:19:23,850 'I want the date that flat was burnt out' 307 00:19:23,899 --> 00:19:25,290 seared into people's brains. 308 00:19:25,340 --> 00:19:27,250 I want people thinking back to that night, 309 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,209 what they were doing that night. 310 00:19:29,260 --> 00:19:31,850 We just didn't get that message out there big enough last time, 311 00:19:31,899 --> 00:19:33,169 somebody must have seen her. 312 00:19:33,219 --> 00:19:35,490 Somebody must have seen or heard something. 313 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:36,770 Yeah. Yep. 314 00:19:36,820 --> 00:19:39,939 Because if they didn't... God knows. 315 00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:45,169 You know -- whoever burnt that flat out knew exactly what 316 00:19:45,219 --> 00:19:47,770 they were doing as regards destroying evidence. 317 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:51,929 'And whoever mutilated her body knew what this lad was doing to these other women.' 318 00:19:51,980 --> 00:19:55,770 I'm looking at who's here... all doing their jobs. 319 00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:58,730 And I'm thinking about everybody there, everybody on the team, 320 00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:00,689 'my team, in the office. 321 00:20:00,740 --> 00:20:04,129 'Might not be a man! Which one of 'em would do that?' 322 00:20:04,179 --> 00:20:06,129 Which one of 'em would be capable of it? 323 00:20:06,179 --> 00:20:09,169 Well, there are other explanations. 324 00:20:09,219 --> 00:20:11,659 Yes, but... Address the question. 325 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:16,459 Well, your first instinct is nobody. Nobody's capable of that. 326 00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:21,609 But then the truth is... anybody's capable of anything. 327 00:20:21,659 --> 00:20:23,800 In the right circumstances. 328 00:20:24,419 --> 00:20:25,770 So, who, then? 329 00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:27,649 Oh... I've gone all creepy now! 330 00:20:27,699 --> 00:20:29,810 You're making me feel like maybe I've done it. 331 00:20:29,859 --> 00:20:32,330 I know. It's that mad, isn't it? So come on. 332 00:20:32,379 --> 00:20:34,609 'Who? Why would I do it?' 333 00:20:34,659 --> 00:20:36,770 - You? - 'Let's start with me.' 334 00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:39,290 Under what circumstances might I end up doing that? 335 00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:42,530 'I haven't, by the way. Although I would say that.' 336 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:46,530 Right, well. You'd do it... 337 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,010 if you wanted to get rid of somebody and disguise it. 338 00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:52,250 Somebody... who'd upset you, obviously. 339 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:53,570 I mean... 340 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:55,369 The way she was strangled, it was... 341 00:20:55,419 --> 00:20:57,250 Not like it was an accident, was it? 342 00:20:57,300 --> 00:21:00,580 Vicky Fleming had John Wadsworth's number on her mobile phone. 343 00:21:02,219 --> 00:21:03,889 'He accounted for it. 344 00:21:03,939 --> 00:21:07,169 'He did an investigation at the building society three years ago 345 00:21:07,219 --> 00:21:09,250 'when he was on the economic crime unit, 346 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,810 'and it isn't even like the number was ever used.' 347 00:21:11,859 --> 00:21:14,409 Well, there you go, that's a perfectly reasonable... 348 00:21:14,459 --> 00:21:17,850 'But people use secret shagging phones, don't they? 349 00:21:17,899 --> 00:21:20,449 'That they could destroy. 350 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:21,929 'In a fire.' 351 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:24,770 And the thing is, his marriage has been a bit shit lately. 352 00:21:24,820 --> 00:21:27,820 Oh, well, better arrest him, then, eh, boss(!) 353 00:21:28,179 --> 00:21:29,609 'I know.' 354 00:21:29,659 --> 00:21:31,129 I've known the man 23 years, 355 00:21:31,179 --> 00:21:34,179 you feel like washing your mouth out, don't you? 356 00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:39,139 After you. 357 00:21:41,419 --> 00:21:43,409 These gentlemen need to talk to you. 358 00:21:43,459 --> 00:21:45,889 This is... Miss Wealand. 359 00:21:45,939 --> 00:21:47,770 Frances Elizabeth Drummond. 360 00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:49,179 Sorry? 361 00:21:50,219 --> 00:21:54,050 I'm arresting you on suspicion of fraud by false representation, 362 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:58,050 contrary to section two of the Fraud Act 2006. 363 00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,929 You do not have to say anything. 364 00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:02,090 But it may harm your defence if you do not mention 365 00:22:02,139 --> 00:22:05,409 when questioned something you later rely on in court. 366 00:22:05,459 --> 00:22:07,409 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 367 00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:09,050 Do you have a mobile phone? 368 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,409 Ryan Cawood needs to talk about his father. 369 00:22:11,459 --> 00:22:13,570 He needs someone who will listen to him. 370 00:22:13,619 --> 00:22:15,810 You've been here under false pretences. 371 00:22:15,859 --> 00:22:17,129 Think about Ryan. 372 00:22:17,179 --> 00:22:20,530 I have to explain that to the parents and to the governors and to the children. 373 00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:21,810 Think about Ryan. 374 00:22:21,859 --> 00:22:22,889 They liked you. 375 00:22:22,939 --> 00:22:24,490 Have you a mobile phone? 376 00:22:24,540 --> 00:22:26,209 In my handbag. 377 00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:27,730 And a coat? 378 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:31,010 - Staffroom. - Do you want me to...? 379 00:22:31,060 --> 00:22:32,730 Would you mind? 380 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:41,730 So what'll happen? 381 00:22:41,780 --> 00:22:44,409 They'll charge her, then they'll bail her. 382 00:22:44,459 --> 00:22:46,060 And then what? 383 00:22:47,619 --> 00:22:49,090 And then... 384 00:22:51,060 --> 00:22:53,090 .. somebody might need to pop round to her house 385 00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:55,969 on Upper Brunswick Street and have a quiet word with her 386 00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:59,020 about taking the high road back to Linlithgow. 387 00:22:59,899 --> 00:23:01,770 And will that be you? 388 00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:06,899 Well, you know me, I wouldn't want her to break her bail conditions. 389 00:23:07,939 --> 00:23:11,090 She won't be allowed within 500 yards of Ryan 390 00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:13,780 and/or members of his family, so... 391 00:23:24,419 --> 00:23:27,449 Eh, you'll not credit. I looked in on Winnie. 392 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:30,100 She's only gone and got Ilinka a job. 393 00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:33,810 - How? - Cleaning at White Lion. 394 00:23:33,859 --> 00:23:35,129 How? 395 00:23:35,179 --> 00:23:37,369 Gordon popped round. Four doors down. 396 00:23:37,419 --> 00:23:42,010 And he knows Tanya -- I think it's her uncle -- and she's manager. 397 00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:46,449 So, Ilinka went round there with him and Bob's your uncle. 398 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:49,369 I said, "Can you get me a job, Winnie?" 399 00:23:49,419 --> 00:23:51,090 So, what, is she stopping? 400 00:23:51,139 --> 00:23:52,850 I know, that's what I said. 401 00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:57,010 And Winnie goes, "Well, we've got the alarm now, haven't we? 402 00:23:57,060 --> 00:24:00,010 "And I have asked Catherine... 403 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:03,340 "to not bother sleeping in that conservatory any more." 404 00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:08,139 Are you all right? 405 00:24:10,699 --> 00:24:13,639 Just an odd day. Wi' that there this morning. 406 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,290 Shot her own kid's head off. 407 00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:19,929 Your own kid. 408 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:22,379 What does it take to do that, eh? 409 00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:24,850 I mean, obviously, 410 00:24:24,899 --> 00:24:27,449 it takes finding out you've given birth to a serial nutter. 411 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,409 But then, after she'd explained that, she goes, 412 00:24:30,459 --> 00:24:32,730 "Only he didn't do that fourth one, that Vicky Fleming. 413 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:35,689 "He wanted people to know that wasn't him." Like... 414 00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:39,179 "Oh, that's all right, then. As long as he didn't do that one." 415 00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:47,000 God alone knows what she's been through. 416 00:24:48,379 --> 00:24:49,929 So who did? 417 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:53,179 Well, that's the 64 million question now, isn't it? 418 00:24:57,580 --> 00:24:59,780 I'll start cooking some tea. 419 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,850 - Oh... - Frances, I'm not here as a police officer, 420 00:25:54,899 --> 00:25:57,609 I'm here as Ryan's grandmother. I want to sort this out. 421 00:25:57,659 --> 00:26:00,889 I want to understand you and I want you to understand me. 422 00:26:00,939 --> 00:26:03,409 I know you've never had a criminal record. 423 00:26:03,459 --> 00:26:05,810 I know you've held down a very responsible, 424 00:26:05,859 --> 00:26:08,530 perfectly respectable job for the last 15 years. 425 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:10,889 I want to understand why you've done what you've done, 426 00:26:10,939 --> 00:26:13,209 I want to know what you want. 427 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:16,449 And I want you to know things about me. 428 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:19,689 - Can I come in? - No... 429 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:22,689 Or we can go down the road and get a cup of tea somewhere 430 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:24,899 if... if you'd prefer. 431 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:51,250 Your people came here. They took things. 432 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:55,090 You've had a long day. Probably quite an unpleasant one. 433 00:26:55,139 --> 00:26:57,530 I won't take up any more of your time than I need to. 434 00:26:57,580 --> 00:27:00,770 - OK. - What I think, you see, is that you're not a bad person. 435 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:02,730 Far from it. 436 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:05,689 And you believe what you've done, you've done for the best. 437 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:09,050 Ryan should have a relationship with his father. 438 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:10,969 However difficult things are. 439 00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,850 Look, I realise everything you know about... 440 00:27:13,899 --> 00:27:16,500 this, us, you've been told by... him. 441 00:27:18,379 --> 00:27:20,379 Tommy Lee Royce. And... 442 00:27:22,419 --> 00:27:24,560 Do you mind if I sit down? 443 00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:28,850 And I realise that you are in... a relationship of some sort 444 00:27:28,899 --> 00:27:30,129 with him. 445 00:27:30,179 --> 00:27:32,119 We're getting married. 446 00:27:36,659 --> 00:27:38,770 OK, look. I know you're probably not going to accept 447 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:40,449 a lot of the things I tell you right now. 448 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:45,169 But obviously, I have a very different perspective on it all, to him, and I want you to hear it. 449 00:27:45,219 --> 00:27:47,619 Whether you accept it or not. OK? 450 00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:49,929 He's a sex offender. 451 00:27:50,459 --> 00:27:51,810 He raped my daughter. 452 00:27:51,859 --> 00:27:54,090 He was very fond of your daughter. 453 00:27:54,139 --> 00:27:57,169 No. No. He took advantage of her. Brutally. 454 00:27:57,219 --> 00:28:01,369 Brutally. And after Ryan was born, she took her own life. 455 00:28:01,419 --> 00:28:04,169 That was nothing to do with him. He was in prison by then. 456 00:28:04,219 --> 00:28:06,689 It had everything to do with him. She was traumatised. 457 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:10,250 We are going to have different versions of the same story, 458 00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:12,300 but please credit me... 459 00:28:13,340 --> 00:28:17,129 I was there when she gave birth. 460 00:28:17,179 --> 00:28:18,580 And after. 461 00:28:19,459 --> 00:28:21,290 And I know what she went through. 462 00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:24,570 You deprived him of having a relationship with his child. 463 00:28:24,619 --> 00:28:27,129 You never even let him know he'd been born. 464 00:28:27,179 --> 00:28:30,699 Tommy Lee Royce is a psychopath. 465 00:28:31,859 --> 00:28:35,139 He's a murderer and he's a sex offender. 466 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:38,369 And you must know, you must realise that. 467 00:28:38,419 --> 00:28:42,449 I think you have allowed yourself to be deluded by this dangerous man 468 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:44,090 because you're infatuated with him. 469 00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:46,409 You might not want to believe that he raped my daughter, 470 00:28:46,459 --> 00:28:49,490 but you do know -- you DO know -- that he raped Ann Gallagher, 471 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:52,010 and that he murdered Kirsten McAskill 472 00:28:52,060 --> 00:28:57,250 in the most HIDEOUS manner -- and Lewis Whippey, and Brett McKendrick. 473 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,730 And he tried to murder me. 474 00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:00,969 Lewis Whippey was the one who raped Ann Gallagher. 475 00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,850 And he was the one who murdered Kirsten McAskill. Not Tommy. 476 00:29:03,899 --> 00:29:06,730 That's not what the court decided on very solid forensic evidence. 477 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,850 Tommy did kill Lewis Whippey and Brett McKendrick 478 00:29:09,899 --> 00:29:11,369 but only in self-defence. 479 00:29:11,419 --> 00:29:14,020 He attacked YOU only in self-defence. 480 00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:19,449 OK. So obviously that's his version, and clearly that's what you're choosing to believe right now. 481 00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,649 Which worries me, Frances, because it makes you -- 482 00:29:22,699 --> 00:29:24,250 a woman who all your life 483 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:29,090 appears to have been law-abiding, logical, kind, normal -- 484 00:29:29,139 --> 00:29:31,449 it makes you seem a little bit... unhinged. 485 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:32,850 And certainly misguided 486 00:29:32,899 --> 00:29:34,850 if that's what you're prepared to believe. 487 00:29:34,899 --> 00:29:36,770 Do you want to know what I believe? 488 00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:39,290 I believe that no-one is born evil. 489 00:29:40,139 --> 00:29:43,490 He may have done things, I know he's done things, and, yes, 490 00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:45,969 he will inevitably have put his own slant on it all 491 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:49,050 and made it seem not as bad as it might really have been. 492 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:53,570 But we all do that, we're all human. But he isn't evil. 493 00:29:53,619 --> 00:29:57,689 He's a product of his childhood, and he had an awful childhood. 494 00:29:57,740 --> 00:30:03,169 But he isn't intrinsically evil. We condemn the sin, not the sinner. 495 00:30:03,219 --> 00:30:04,490 With help and kindness, 496 00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:08,850 I believe he will become the person he was always capable of being. 497 00:30:08,899 --> 00:30:12,010 Good and kind and gentle and thoughtful. 498 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:13,730 That's what I see 499 00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:16,719 when I visit him. When I look into his eyes. 500 00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:21,250 I see no evil. Not a trace of it. 501 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:22,969 Surely it would benefit him 502 00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:26,020 and Ryan if they could have a good relationship. 503 00:30:27,179 --> 00:30:29,090 Frances, you're old enough to be his mother. 504 00:30:29,139 --> 00:30:32,369 I think you are actually older than his mother was when she died. 505 00:30:32,419 --> 00:30:35,369 Does that not... ring alarm bells? 506 00:30:35,419 --> 00:30:37,850 - Does it not worry you? - Why should it? 507 00:30:37,899 --> 00:30:41,850 He's using you. He's used you to get close to Ryan. 508 00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:44,689 He's groomed you. You've been groomed. 509 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:47,649 You've been picked, you've been chosen, for what he can get out of you. 510 00:30:47,699 --> 00:30:50,090 He could be very fond of Ryan if you'd let him. 511 00:30:50,139 --> 00:30:52,010 Oh, no, no, Frances. You can't 512 00:30:52,060 --> 00:30:54,929 begin to imagine on how many levels that will never happen. 513 00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:57,169 Why are you so angry? So negative? 514 00:30:57,219 --> 00:31:01,490 No, I'm not. It's you who's deluded about this dangerous man 515 00:31:01,540 --> 00:31:02,730 because he's pretty. 516 00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:05,060 Oh... You're jealous. 517 00:31:06,379 --> 00:31:09,929 No. No, no, I'm shocked, I'm disappointed 518 00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:13,449 that a woman of your obvious intelligence and ability 519 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,770 can allow herself to be fooled by this... 520 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:18,419 this... this... 521 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:23,609 You know, tell me this. 522 00:31:23,659 --> 00:31:27,090 If he looked like, I don't know, Ian Brady, or Peter Sutcliffe 523 00:31:27,139 --> 00:31:28,969 or Jimmy Savile. 524 00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:31,359 Or some other sad, twisted fuck. 525 00:31:32,619 --> 00:31:35,359 Would you believe a single word he said? 526 00:31:36,659 --> 00:31:38,929 But he doesn't look like them. 527 00:31:39,659 --> 00:31:42,730 On the inside he looks exactly like them. 528 00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:46,369 And one day, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon 529 00:31:46,419 --> 00:31:49,570 the scales will fall away from your eyes, because they always do. 530 00:31:49,619 --> 00:31:52,810 And you'll realise how foolish he's made you look. 531 00:31:52,859 --> 00:31:55,649 And how much damage he's inflicted on you. 532 00:31:55,699 --> 00:32:00,340 A nice, kind, normal person who this really shouldn't have happened to. 533 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:09,010 TV: 'At 17 minutes past four this afternoon, 534 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:12,689 'the remains of the dead man were removed from the farmhouse. 535 00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:15,369 'A woman who also lives at the address remains under police 536 00:32:15,419 --> 00:32:17,649 'protection at a hospital in Halifax. 537 00:32:17,699 --> 00:32:20,050 'I'm not in a position at this moment to tell you any more 538 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,969 'about the body that was found at Far Sunderland Farm this morning. 539 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:25,649 'However, I can tell you that at this time, we are not 540 00:32:25,699 --> 00:32:28,290 'looking for any suspects in relation to the deaths 541 00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:33,290 'of Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Elise May Hughes. 542 00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:35,810 'We are, however, still appealing to the public for 543 00:32:35,859 --> 00:32:39,689 'any information regarding the death of Victoria Fleming. 544 00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:42,409 'We're asking people to think back to the evening and the night 545 00:32:42,459 --> 00:32:45,330 'of Thursday the 12th of September. 546 00:32:45,379 --> 00:32:48,010 'Anyone who lives in Ripponden, or visits Ripponden 547 00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:52,929 'to check their diaries, and think of anything suspicious they might have seen or heard. 548 00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:57,129 'If anyone was out in Ripponden that evening, particularly anyone out into the small hours 549 00:32:57,179 --> 00:32:59,449 'on Thursday 12th September, 550 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:02,240 'we would be very keen to talk to them.' 551 00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:18,449 What've I done? 552 00:33:22,780 --> 00:33:24,580 What've I done? 553 00:33:26,859 --> 00:33:29,060 Eh, what've I done? Nothing! 554 00:33:30,659 --> 00:33:32,500 Why me? 555 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:37,020 Why me, you bastard?! 556 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:41,490 You bastard! You bastard! 557 00:33:41,540 --> 00:33:43,409 You fucking... BASTARD! 558 00:33:43,459 --> 00:33:47,649 You bastard! What've I done? What have I done? Nothing! 559 00:33:47,699 --> 00:33:49,010 Fuck all! 560 00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:53,090 Nothing, why, why?! You bastard! 561 00:33:53,139 --> 00:33:54,810 What've I done?! 562 00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:14,449 Everything all right? 563 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,100 Yeah. Just... 564 00:34:18,460 --> 00:34:20,929 Neil wanted to tell you something. 565 00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:26,889 I knew Vicky Fleming. 566 00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:42,529 - Morning. - Morning. 567 00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:45,170 I was just nipping through to talk to one of your lot, actually. 568 00:34:45,219 --> 00:34:48,130 I've got some information that might be relevant about Vicky Fleming. 569 00:34:48,179 --> 00:34:50,290 I don't know if it helps but it's interesting. 570 00:34:50,339 --> 00:34:52,369 - If you can pass it on to Mr Shepherd. - Sure. 571 00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:58,819 It's a friend of me sister's, this... um... bloke... 572 00:35:00,699 --> 00:35:02,770 Are you all right? You look like you've got flu. 573 00:35:02,819 --> 00:35:04,810 Yeah. I think I'm starting with it. Go on. 574 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:07,290 He's called Neil Ackroyd, he lives down Hebden Bridge. 575 00:35:07,339 --> 00:35:10,409 He's happy to come in and be interviewed, although... 576 00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:11,969 Well, it's sensitive. 577 00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:15,929 He knew Vicky Fleming. This is about four or five years ago. 578 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:18,690 He was having a fling with her. He was married. 579 00:35:18,739 --> 00:35:23,449 And apparently she tried to blackmail him, well, she did blackmail him. 580 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,569 She must have drugged him and taken photos of him. 581 00:35:25,619 --> 00:35:26,850 Compromising photos. 582 00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:29,730 And then threatened to e-mail them to everyone he knew -- 583 00:35:29,779 --> 00:35:31,650 all his family and friends -- if he didn't pay up. 584 00:35:31,699 --> 00:35:36,529 She'd downloaded his contacts. Anyway. He couldn't pay what she was asking, and she ruined his life. 585 00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:39,900 He lost his family, lost his job, his dignity. He became an alcoholic. 586 00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:46,969 That's his name and number, if you want to pass it on. 587 00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:50,290 Cos whoever killed her could've been someone she was blackmailing. 588 00:35:50,339 --> 00:35:51,739 Thank you. 589 00:35:53,819 --> 00:35:55,610 You want to get yourself home to bed. 590 00:35:55,659 --> 00:35:57,799 I know. Thank you. Thanks. 591 00:36:14,569 --> 00:36:15,569 Morning. 592 00:36:15,619 --> 00:36:17,860 Morning... ma'am. 593 00:36:22,219 --> 00:36:23,969 That John Wadsworth. 594 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:26,889 He's not this detective you told our Daniel about, is he? 595 00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:28,250 Why? 596 00:36:28,299 --> 00:36:31,089 No, I just... I think you did well to avoid that one. 597 00:36:31,139 --> 00:36:32,290 Why? 598 00:36:32,339 --> 00:36:34,889 I just gave him some information that I thought might be 599 00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:36,850 pertinent to the investigation 600 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:39,810 about this fella Vicky Fleming blackmailed, years ago. 601 00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:42,250 And he has this glazed look in his eye. Like... durr. 602 00:36:42,299 --> 00:36:44,009 - What, and you think it's him? - Who? 603 00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:45,650 The fella she blackmailed? 604 00:36:45,699 --> 00:36:48,730 No. No. 605 00:36:48,779 --> 00:36:50,580 But I'm thinking... 606 00:36:53,139 --> 00:36:57,650 .. whoever did it could be someone else she's blackmailed. 607 00:36:57,699 --> 00:37:01,049 Whereas he's really not interested, right over his head. 608 00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:03,369 You can do a lot better than that, love. 609 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:06,619 I didn't fancy him, if that's what you're thinking. 610 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:11,239 Good morning, you lucky people! 611 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:54,409 Morning. 612 00:37:54,460 --> 00:37:55,730 Can I help? 613 00:37:55,779 --> 00:37:59,850 Yeah. I hope so. I'd like to speak to someone. 614 00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:03,569 I've got some information that might be relevant 615 00:38:03,619 --> 00:38:07,580 regarding the... um... Victoria Fleming. 616 00:38:09,259 --> 00:38:12,850 Right, this morning. We've got two people who've come forward. 617 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:18,130 We've got a... Gary Sugden. 618 00:38:18,179 --> 00:38:21,049 Yeah. Who's the landlord of the Wills O'Nats pub up Slaithwaite. 619 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:24,900 And Gemma Tomkinson, who works at the Travel Inn at Ainley Top. 620 00:38:26,699 --> 00:38:30,409 Both of them are saying they've seen a woman who they believe might have been Vicky Fleming 621 00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:35,210 at their establishments, with a man. Both are talking about a man smartly dressed, professional, 622 00:38:35,259 --> 00:38:38,650 shirt and tie, suit, clean-shaven, white, late 40s, 623 00:38:38,699 --> 00:38:41,290 early 50s, at around the time she went missing. 624 00:38:41,339 --> 00:38:44,969 She -- this Gemma -- describes the man as not looking very well. 625 00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:47,770 So, interviewing those two this morning takes priority. 626 00:38:47,819 --> 00:38:50,250 This Gemma also reckons they might still have some CCTV, 627 00:38:50,299 --> 00:38:52,770 even though it's more than 28 days since it happened. 628 00:38:52,819 --> 00:38:55,619 She's checked her records, and this was... 629 00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:58,650 .. three days before the flat was burnt out. 630 00:38:58,699 --> 00:39:01,290 Three days before Vicky Fleming last turned up at work. 631 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,650 We've also had a number of calls from people who 632 00:39:03,699 --> 00:39:06,170 were in Ripponden that night, these are all new people, 633 00:39:06,219 --> 00:39:09,020 people who did not come forward last time. 634 00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:24,330 Sorry, this is... probably mad. But when we were doing house-to-house 635 00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:26,610 weeks ago, me and John Wadsworth -- 636 00:39:26,659 --> 00:39:28,850 and I'm not just saying this because he stood me up -- 637 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:31,409 he was never off his phone, making furtive phone calls. 638 00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:34,089 And I remember saying to Shaf, "He's having an affair." 639 00:39:34,139 --> 00:39:36,130 And then like... a couple of days later, 640 00:39:36,179 --> 00:39:37,449 a week after my mother died, 641 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,170 he was asking me how he could get his hands on £1,000. 642 00:39:40,219 --> 00:39:42,170 And he looked like shit. 643 00:39:42,219 --> 00:39:45,409 And I know everyone's busy thinking outside the box, 644 00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:47,650 but the fact does remain that it'd make a lot more sense 645 00:39:47,699 --> 00:39:50,170 if it was someone inside the investigation. 646 00:39:50,219 --> 00:39:52,739 Like he was being blackmailed. 647 00:39:54,259 --> 00:39:58,089 Catherine. There's a fella. I've put him in there -- Graham Tattersall. 648 00:39:58,139 --> 00:40:01,089 He says he's got some information about Victoria Fleming, 649 00:40:01,139 --> 00:40:03,409 and he wants to see a detective, but they're still all 650 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:05,969 up in the briefing and he's itching to get off to work. 651 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:08,020 - Could you...? - Sure. 652 00:40:10,259 --> 00:40:12,900 It might be relevant. I'll mention it. 653 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,650 Mr Tattersall? I'm Sergeant Cawood. 654 00:40:20,699 --> 00:40:22,969 If you want to give me a few brief details I can 655 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:26,819 pass your information on to CID, and somebody'll contact you. 656 00:40:27,179 --> 00:40:28,650 Er. OK. 657 00:40:28,699 --> 00:40:32,049 Well. The thing is... 658 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:37,380 I've been having a... in a... having a... in a... 659 00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:41,730 .. relationship. 660 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:44,730 She's married. I'm married. 661 00:40:44,779 --> 00:40:48,610 But... And her husband was having an affair with someone else. But... 662 00:40:48,659 --> 00:40:51,449 Anyway, he was away from home one night -- 663 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,330 on obs, he said. He's a police officer. 664 00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:56,330 And I was round at her house. 665 00:40:56,380 --> 00:41:00,020 Cos normally when he's on obs, he's out all night. So... 666 00:41:01,259 --> 00:41:03,690 This particular night... 667 00:41:03,739 --> 00:41:06,449 he turned up, one in the morning. 668 00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:07,969 Yeah. 669 00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:10,810 Which was... exciting. 670 00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:13,969 But the point is, she rang me. Last night. 671 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:18,089 Amanda, his wife, did. And we checked our diaries. 672 00:41:18,139 --> 00:41:21,610 And it's the same night that Victoria Fleming went missing. 673 00:41:21,659 --> 00:41:24,449 Well, the same night her flat was burnt out. 674 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,889 Sorry, you think this bloke might have something to do with Vicky Fleming 675 00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:32,250 - because he caught you in bed with his wife at one in the morning? - Yes. 676 00:41:32,299 --> 00:41:33,449 What's his name? 677 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:35,170 John Wadsworth. 678 00:41:36,779 --> 00:41:40,009 Paul, can you interview this Gemma Tomkinson? 679 00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:42,730 John, can you phone these people back who've left messages? 680 00:41:42,779 --> 00:41:46,969 I'm just going to go to the chemist and get something for this, this cold. 681 00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:49,170 Oh, yeah. You do look like shit warmed up. 682 00:41:49,219 --> 00:41:51,250 - I shan't be long. - Go home. 683 00:41:51,299 --> 00:41:52,369 I'm fine. 684 00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:53,889 Alastair... 685 00:41:57,580 --> 00:42:00,330 He did this. After they'd arrested that lad, that first one, 686 00:42:00,380 --> 00:42:03,210 that Saturday morning. He must have thought he'd got away with it... 687 00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:05,210 He came round our house and he knocked me about. 688 00:42:05,259 --> 00:42:09,049 And he was going, "Where is she, then? Where's this woman I've been having this affair with?" 689 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:10,839 I shan't be long. 690 00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:16,880 Obviously by then she was dead, so he could say that. 691 00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:19,739 John? 692 00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:24,139 John! 693 00:42:28,940 --> 00:42:30,369 John. 694 00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:31,819 Watch out! 695 00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:33,929 John, wait. 696 00:42:36,580 --> 00:42:38,719 I just want to talk to you! 697 00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:43,009 John! 698 00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:44,250 I just want to talk to you. 699 00:42:44,299 --> 00:42:45,819 John! 700 00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:52,860 Fucking idiot! What you doing? 701 00:42:54,339 --> 00:42:55,610 Jesus! 702 00:42:58,179 --> 00:42:59,730 Bravo November 4-5. 703 00:42:59,779 --> 00:43:01,330 I'm chasing -- it's complicated -- 704 00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:05,699 'but I'm chasing DS John Wadsworth, who I believe has been involved in the murder of Vicky Fleming.' 705 00:43:08,619 --> 00:43:10,650 Follow that BMW! Put your foot down. 706 00:43:10,699 --> 00:43:13,440 Units to Sowerby Bridge railway station. 707 00:43:17,179 --> 00:43:19,730 For once in your life, in the right place at the right time, 708 00:43:19,779 --> 00:43:21,810 doesn't it feel good, eh? 709 00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:24,730 God knows what his plans are, but this is a dead end. 710 00:43:24,779 --> 00:43:27,380 Oh, bollocks! 711 00:43:36,219 --> 00:43:37,360 Oh! 712 00:43:41,179 --> 00:43:42,980 Throw it broadside! 713 00:43:51,819 --> 00:43:53,219 Handbrake! 714 00:43:55,259 --> 00:43:56,659 B-R-A-K-E. 715 00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:15,250 He's heading straight for the tracks. 716 00:44:15,299 --> 00:44:17,699 4-5, do NOT follow! 717 00:44:20,259 --> 00:44:23,619 Bravo November 4-5, do not follow. 718 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,580 Bollocks. 719 00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:08,610 You don't come near me! 720 00:45:08,659 --> 00:45:12,290 John, it's not that high, you're not going to... 721 00:45:12,339 --> 00:45:14,650 You're just going to break your legs and make a mess. 722 00:45:14,699 --> 00:45:15,929 - Piss off. - Shit. 723 00:45:15,980 --> 00:45:19,020 'He's on the bridge opposite the nick, he looks like he's going to jump.' 724 00:45:20,179 --> 00:45:21,380 Shit. 725 00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:26,049 Come on, we both know she was blackmailing you! 726 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,210 I burnt the evidence, didn't I?! 727 00:45:28,259 --> 00:45:30,489 There's other people's evidence. 728 00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:32,810 There's this Neil bloke I told you about, for one. 729 00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:37,170 And there's... more than likely there's others. 730 00:45:37,219 --> 00:45:39,089 She spiked my drink! 731 00:45:40,219 --> 00:45:43,489 Took photos of me looking stupid and she was going to send them 732 00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:45,850 - to people! - I know. - Everybody! 733 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,409 People I work with, my mother, my kids, 734 00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:51,650 people I don't even know that well! 735 00:45:51,699 --> 00:45:54,690 They're just people -- people you don't even like -- 736 00:45:54,739 --> 00:45:57,610 they're just people you've had on your phone for years! 737 00:45:57,659 --> 00:46:01,489 I know! I know. I know how she operated. 738 00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:05,170 Look, she ruined people's lives, I tell you, this bloke I know... 739 00:46:05,219 --> 00:46:08,699 I asked her to just let me go and she wouldn't, and I begged her! 740 00:46:11,259 --> 00:46:13,529 And I didn't mean to kill her. 741 00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:16,810 Well, I didn't go in there to kill her, 742 00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:18,339 it just... 743 00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:24,900 And so I did this ridiculous thing to her. 744 00:46:26,619 --> 00:46:27,960 Hideous. 745 00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:31,489 And God knows that's not me. 746 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:34,210 That's not what I'm like. I'm not... I'm not a monster, 747 00:46:34,259 --> 00:46:35,929 - I never have been. - John... 748 00:46:35,980 --> 00:46:38,850 You come any closer, I'll take you with me! 749 00:46:39,619 --> 00:46:41,929 You were blackmailed. It was provocation. 750 00:46:41,980 --> 00:46:45,009 That's mitigating circumstances. 751 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:47,210 And it sounds to me like manslaughter. 752 00:46:47,259 --> 00:46:49,850 It's ten years -- less. 753 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:51,810 And you and me both know you could be out. 754 00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:54,199 Yeah, but I'll never work again. 755 00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:56,969 - Have you got children? - Oh! 756 00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:58,409 No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 757 00:46:58,460 --> 00:46:59,449 Shut up! 758 00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:01,380 Sorry, sorry. 759 00:47:02,860 --> 00:47:04,130 I've... 760 00:47:06,219 --> 00:47:10,290 I've-I've... I've not done any negotiating courses. 761 00:47:10,339 --> 00:47:11,739 Have you? 762 00:47:13,540 --> 00:47:14,739 Yeah. 763 00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:17,929 Suicide intervention training. 764 00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:20,339 So... So... 765 00:47:22,060 --> 00:47:24,529 So what should I be saying to you? 766 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:30,730 You should be telling me that you're here to make sure I get out of this alive. 767 00:47:30,779 --> 00:47:34,330 Yeah, well, I am. I am here for that. 768 00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:35,850 You should use my name a lot. 769 00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,179 OK. John. 770 00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:46,969 You've got to be assertive. Reassuring. Empathetic, and kind. 771 00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:49,770 And you've got to listen. You've got to be a good listener. 772 00:47:49,819 --> 00:47:52,330 And you tell them that even though they can't see a way forward, 773 00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:53,650 you can. 774 00:47:53,699 --> 00:47:57,089 And how in 24 hours' time, 775 00:47:57,139 --> 00:48:00,940 it'll all seem very different to what it might look like now. 776 00:48:01,139 --> 00:48:03,009 But you see, it won't. 777 00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:05,060 This can only get worse. 778 00:48:06,659 --> 00:48:09,529 How many people have you talked down over the years, John? 779 00:48:09,580 --> 00:48:11,569 - 17. - Wow. 780 00:48:11,619 --> 00:48:14,049 And I never lost one. Not one. 781 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:17,860 One lad jumped before I got there, but... apart from him. 782 00:48:19,339 --> 00:48:21,330 So, what you going to do? 783 00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:24,250 Mess my record up before I've even started? 784 00:48:26,580 --> 00:48:30,489 You take your time, I'll just... I'll just stand here. 785 00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:34,929 OK? I'm not going anywhere. All right? I'll just listen. 786 00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:36,529 Or I'll talk. Whichever you prefer. 787 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:38,380 You tell me, John. 788 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:45,210 I love my kids. 789 00:48:45,739 --> 00:48:46,940 Yeah. 790 00:48:54,580 --> 00:48:55,719 Oh! 791 00:49:02,779 --> 00:49:05,719 Really need ETA on that ambulance, thank you. 792 00:49:15,460 --> 00:49:17,799 - You all right, Sarge? - Yeah. 793 00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:54,920 There but for the grace of God. 794 00:49:55,580 --> 00:49:57,330 Really? 795 00:49:57,380 --> 00:49:59,330 He stuck a broken bottle inside her 796 00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:01,929 and then prayed to God someone else'd get copped for it. 797 00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:03,850 That isn't what I said to him, by the way. 798 00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,100 I did try and talk him down. 799 00:50:06,860 --> 00:50:08,860 I'm pleased to hear it. 800 00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:12,980 You all right? 801 00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:18,199 I thought I'd got through to him. I thought he was stepping down. 802 00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:19,730 Then he just went limp 803 00:50:19,779 --> 00:50:22,380 and this odd look came over his face. 804 00:50:27,699 --> 00:50:29,839 He said, "I loved my kids." 805 00:50:34,139 --> 00:50:35,880 What a shit week! 806 00:50:39,219 --> 00:50:40,489 Sorry. 807 00:50:43,179 --> 00:50:46,290 I've had some more information through. From the DIU. 808 00:50:46,339 --> 00:50:49,339 About some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors. 809 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:51,770 Oh, yeah? 810 00:50:51,819 --> 00:50:53,690 Interesting reading. 811 00:50:54,940 --> 00:50:57,980 And I've had a message from the prison liaison service as well. 812 00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:08,730 It's all right, son, sit down. 813 00:51:09,580 --> 00:51:11,290 It's bad news, I'm afraid. 814 00:51:11,339 --> 00:51:13,690 Pending an inquiry into some of the people who visit you, 815 00:51:13,739 --> 00:51:16,810 it's been decided -- by the Wing Supervisor, and others -- that 816 00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:19,290 your visits and phone calls will be suspended for a while. 817 00:51:19,339 --> 00:51:20,889 As of now. 818 00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:22,569 Why? 819 00:51:22,619 --> 00:51:24,759 That's all I can tell you. 820 00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,170 Suspended? What? 821 00:51:30,980 --> 00:51:32,529 Everyone who visits me? 822 00:51:32,580 --> 00:51:34,529 - As I've explained. - Phone calls? 823 00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:35,610 - Yeah. - Why? 824 00:51:35,659 --> 00:51:38,730 - I've told you everything I can. - Why? Why? Fucking why? 825 00:51:38,779 --> 00:51:41,119 Calm down. Don't do that, Tommy. 826 00:51:42,659 --> 00:51:44,400 Calm down, Tommy! 827 00:52:06,739 --> 00:52:08,170 Hello, Frances. 828 00:52:08,219 --> 00:52:09,960 What do you want? 829 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,130 These are some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors. 830 00:52:16,179 --> 00:52:18,650 That one -- Gina Flynn -- 831 00:52:18,699 --> 00:52:21,650 she's a 45-year-old accountant from Warwick. 832 00:52:21,699 --> 00:52:24,639 Turns out he's engaged to her as well as you. 833 00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:30,409 And that one -- Justine Niewinski -- she's from Essex. A student. 834 00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:32,900 Media and politics. She's 23. 835 00:52:34,219 --> 00:52:36,420 He's engaged to her as well. 836 00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,770 And that one -- Lena Dixon -- 837 00:52:38,819 --> 00:52:41,409 fitness instructor from Leicestershire. 838 00:52:41,460 --> 00:52:43,330 Also engaged to him. 839 00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:51,210 You take care of yourself, OK? 840 00:53:03,139 --> 00:53:06,219 - Hiya, Sarge. - Do you want to go get yourself a cup of tea? 841 00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:16,060 Hello, Alison. 842 00:53:26,779 --> 00:53:28,319 How are you? 843 00:53:41,779 --> 00:53:44,650 I can't begin to imagine how you must feel. 844 00:53:45,259 --> 00:53:48,210 But I just wanted to tell you that... 845 00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:50,000 I had a daughter. 846 00:53:52,139 --> 00:53:53,659 That died. 847 00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:56,369 She was 18. 848 00:53:58,060 --> 00:53:59,569 And I know it's not the same, 849 00:53:59,619 --> 00:54:03,139 but it's all I've got to relate it to. 850 00:54:06,460 --> 00:54:08,659 And I just wanted to say... 851 00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:12,600 .. don't be short of someone to talk to. 852 00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:16,610 If you want to. 853 00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:20,290 You know where I am. 854 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:22,679 That's my number. 855 00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:30,060 You can always ring me. 856 00:54:53,779 --> 00:54:56,119 There's your post, sweet cheeks. 857 00:56:06,299 --> 00:56:07,569 You OK? 858 00:56:10,659 --> 00:56:14,569 It was odd the other day, talking to Alison in the hospital. 859 00:56:14,619 --> 00:56:15,819 Why? 860 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:18,920 She told me her story. 861 00:56:20,779 --> 00:56:26,299 You know -- yet another everyday story of country folk. 862 00:56:30,619 --> 00:56:31,960 Her dad. 863 00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:36,060 He interfered with her. 864 00:56:38,179 --> 00:56:40,719 Daryl was his son, not his grandson. 865 00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:42,770 Jesus. 866 00:56:44,739 --> 00:56:47,679 She brought up this kid, this child, this... 867 00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:52,540 .. aberration. 868 00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:57,730 That she loved and hated because... 869 00:56:57,779 --> 00:56:59,779 what else could she do? 870 00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:05,489 And she was terrified of him finding out, so... 871 00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:09,409 she tried to stop him bothering with the local lads. 872 00:57:09,460 --> 00:57:12,330 So they picked on him. And they knew anyway. 873 00:57:12,380 --> 00:57:14,650 They knew something, somehow. 874 00:57:15,819 --> 00:57:20,179 So they became like outcasts, pariahs. 875 00:57:22,699 --> 00:57:24,770 Something to poke fun at. 876 00:57:28,139 --> 00:57:30,279 I said, "Did he ever know?" 877 00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:36,000 And she said she thought he'd worked it out. 878 00:57:36,699 --> 00:57:39,239 Although they never talked about it. 879 00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:44,040 She said, "Because I never had the language." 880 00:57:49,139 --> 00:57:51,020 And I thought, "Yeah. 881 00:57:53,739 --> 00:57:55,299 "I know." 882 00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:09,089 - Can I get a dog? - No. 883 00:58:09,139 --> 00:58:10,650 Why? 884 00:58:10,699 --> 00:58:12,529 Because you won't look after it. 885 00:58:12,580 --> 00:58:13,969 No, I would. 886 00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:16,369 I'll walk it and feed it and everything. 887 00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:18,529 Yeah, for t'first week. 888 00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:21,250 So I was thinking maybe a Rottweiler. 889 00:58:21,299 --> 00:58:23,170 Oh, are you? 890 00:58:23,219 --> 00:58:24,730 An Alsatian, then. 891 00:58:24,779 --> 00:58:26,569 - An orang-utan. - Oh, perfect. 892 00:58:26,619 --> 00:58:29,139 - OK, a Doberman. - Yeah, right. 893 00:58:30,339 --> 00:58:32,009 - A Great Dane? - No. 894 00:58:32,060 --> 00:58:34,170 A Siberian Husky. A St Bernard! 895 00:58:34,219 --> 00:58:35,529 Ha! 896 00:58:35,580 --> 00:58:37,449 Is that a yes? 897 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:40,529 - Why can't you get something smaller? - Like a pit bull? 898 00:58:40,580 --> 00:58:41,929 No, like a goldfish. 899 00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:44,330 Fish are rubbish! You can't talk to fish. 900 00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:48,049 I need something with some more personality. 901 00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:50,049 Granny. Granny! 902 00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:52,940 I'd get him a dog just to shut him up if I were you, Mother!