1 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:07,940 Today, in Antwerp, a long-awaited assassination trial 2 00:00:07,940 --> 00:00:09,660 about the Asseboester murder. 3 00:00:09,900 --> 00:00:11,840 Marianne Koens was brutally killed. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,219 Probably by her partner Anton Bergman 5 00:00:15,379 --> 00:00:17,280 and her stepdaughter Julie Bergman. 6 00:00:18,220 --> 00:00:19,940 I accidentally shot Marianne from the stairs. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,180 I tried to resuscitate her. 8 00:00:23,580 --> 00:00:26,800 But if you don't believe me, you're still punished. 9 00:00:27,580 --> 00:00:31,080 Marianne Koens was a warm and very loving woman 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,140 and not a bad stepmother like you make it seem. 11 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:37,340 Dad, you too? 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Me too. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,280 I'll make sure you're released, Dad. I promise. 14 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:46,780 I can't, Frank. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,140 It's my own daughter. 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,040 A young, innocent girl. 17 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:53,000 She'll forgive the jury, but you and your father 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,400 who stabbed his own daughter... 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,940 Forget it. 20 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:57,000 That's not what I want. 21 00:00:57,340 --> 00:00:59,460 The twelve people who decide your life. 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Make sure you don't end up there. 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,340 A notable appearance among the jury 24 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:06,940 was journalist Nico Willems. 25 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:07,480 Can you leave? 26 00:01:08,140 --> 00:01:09,080 What's this? 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Why are you hanging your sweater? 28 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:13,800 I'm Simon, but you're not here. 29 00:01:13,820 --> 00:01:15,440 I thought you were a musician. 30 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,660 You were, indeed. 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,140 Hey, who's that? 32 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,160 What happened? 33 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:22,940 Tell me, who are you? 34 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:24,400 The grey cat. 35 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,740 Hi, Mom. 36 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,880 It's been so long since someone caught me again. 37 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,780 Mom, we'll solve this quickly. 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,820 According to Sian, these photos were sent 39 00:01:34,820 --> 00:01:37,140 with a Twitter account called Firestarter. 40 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,360 I've never heard of it. 41 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Why are you so cool about it? You're a good couple. 42 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,600 How's your relationship with Julie? 43 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,980 We haven't talked for a long time. 44 00:01:48,060 --> 00:01:48,520 That's strange. 45 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,200 I don't think Marian was involved in an accident. 46 00:01:53,220 --> 00:01:56,340 It's your strategy. You risk both murders. 47 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,500 I take the risk. 48 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:59,540 I'm not afraid of interrogation. 49 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:01,640 You'll stay with your statement. 50 00:02:02,260 --> 00:02:03,760 You want him to go to jail, too. 51 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Marian was brutally murdered by the people she trusted. 52 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:12,420 I hope your jury will punish those who betrayed her. 53 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:25,450 It's too much. 54 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:27,490 Right, Julie? 55 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:30,650 All that training and then your homework. 56 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,200 You were so far from your diploma. 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,280 I don't need a diploma. 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,140 I'm going to do triathlon. 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Sweetheart. 60 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:49,980 Look at this. 61 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:54,350 An intern. 62 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:57,930 You should finish high school first. 63 00:03:00,290 --> 00:03:01,990 And then you'll be with us at the weekend. 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,860 And my sport? 65 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:08,020 You can train there, too. 66 00:03:08,380 --> 00:03:09,200 Without my coach? 67 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:16,680 We think you'll be with a diploma more than with a triathlon. 68 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,600 Us or you? 69 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Is that your idea? 70 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:21,720 It's not my mother's, is it? 71 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:29,660 Come on. 72 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:34,200 Dennis says if I stay like this, I'll go to the World Championships. 73 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:46,460 Sweetheart. 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,100 I'm 18. 75 00:03:52,420 --> 00:03:53,360 I'll do what I want. 76 00:03:55,140 --> 00:03:56,340 We're not negotiating. 77 00:04:00,530 --> 00:04:01,090 Dad. 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,580 You're all in your fucking mind. 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,600 You want to move me. 80 00:04:14,050 --> 00:04:21,660 I know how hard you're trying. 81 00:04:33,770 --> 00:04:34,470 You and the tandoor? 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Okay. 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,080 And she's there now? 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:44,660 Yes. 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,640 No, wait. 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:47,680 I'll interview her. 87 00:04:49,220 --> 00:04:49,600 Okay. 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,140 Her stepdaughter just turned up. 89 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:18,580 Has anything changed lately? 90 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,300 Something that can explain the extra nervousness? 91 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,340 No, I do the same as always. 92 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:27,100 I go to the gym. 93 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,380 I take pills. 94 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,180 I rest. 95 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:32,180 I know better how to rest. 96 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,280 I really do rest. 97 00:06:35,620 --> 00:06:36,220 Enough. 98 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,300 Is your leg still stable? 99 00:06:43,690 --> 00:06:45,290 Have you talked to Dr. Maurice? 100 00:06:46,110 --> 00:06:47,330 Yes, last month. 101 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:48,730 Yes. 102 00:06:50,170 --> 00:06:52,410 I'm not crazy. I feel what I feel. 103 00:06:52,490 --> 00:06:53,570 I'm in a lot of pain. 104 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:56,550 Yes, but you do feel pain. 105 00:06:56,990 --> 00:06:58,410 That's not up for discussion. 106 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:04,010 And the neurostimulator, is that an option? 107 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:06,930 No, not for me. You know that, don't you? 108 00:07:07,690 --> 00:07:10,330 If it helps, we should try it. 109 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:12,270 I'm a bit tired of trying. 110 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,880 And... 111 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,760 the rugizic. 112 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,020 Or oxynorm. 113 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:23,860 You know I don't like to prescribe that. 114 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Yes. 115 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:30,270 Okay. 116 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:33,250 I'll prescribe you a box of oxynorm. 117 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:36,670 You shouldn't take it every day. 118 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:39,410 There aren't many options after this. 119 00:07:39,410 --> 00:07:40,410 Hey. 120 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Don't be angry. 121 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,980 I'm not angry. I'm calm. It's different. 122 00:07:52,660 --> 00:07:54,020 You shouldn't be anxious either. 123 00:07:55,740 --> 00:07:55,940 Okay? 124 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:56,640 No, okay. 125 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,300 Yes? 126 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,300 No, not right now. 127 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:17,100 You'll see. It'll be better for me. 128 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,040 It's quite a hassle. 129 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,180 I'll see them off. 130 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Goodbye, ma'am. 131 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Come. 132 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:26,360 Yes, come. Have a seat. 133 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:30,900 Hi. Do you have a shower? 134 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:31,220 No. 135 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:37,400 My daughter put it on. I don't do anything with it. 136 00:08:37,500 --> 00:08:39,039 You don't have to tell me. 137 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:40,840 I know you don't like cafes. 138 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,540 Aren't you curious? 139 00:08:44,180 --> 00:08:45,940 Do you have a wife? Can I go in? 140 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,320 You always win prizes. 141 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:53,060 Come on. 142 00:09:24,390 --> 00:09:26,610 On August 8, 2021, 143 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:29,970 at 7.46 am, we received this call. 144 00:09:31,290 --> 00:09:32,150 We immediately went there. 145 00:09:35,460 --> 00:09:37,020 Mr. Pijken was waiting for us here. 146 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:39,000 He was in panic. 147 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,160 He was bleeding. 148 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,620 We enter the house and see footprints in the hallway. 149 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,920 It smells like Javel. 150 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:50,580 In the living room is Mr. Bergman. 151 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,980 He doesn't respond when we come in. 152 00:09:54,020 --> 00:09:55,140 He's also covered in blood. 153 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,960 There are bottles of drink on the table. 154 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,000 When we ask for his name, he doesn't respond. 155 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,180 A little later he asks if he's dead. 156 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,200 He had a strange look in his eyes. 157 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,600 We continue and see that the back door is open. 158 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,960 The door to the basement is open. 159 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:16,100 At the bottom of the stairs we see the victim. 160 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:21,370 This is a photo of the body of the woman we met. 161 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:29,270 Mr. Dirkens, you were in charge of the investigation. 162 00:10:29,710 --> 00:10:30,190 That's right. 163 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:35,110 As an investigator, I replaced the departure. 164 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:42,290 It quickly became clear that Mr. Bergman was in a very drunk state. 165 00:10:43,130 --> 00:10:47,050 He could not give a clear explanation of what had happened. 166 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:50,950 We found traces of violence in the bedroom. 167 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:55,090 Mr. Bergman also had a scratch on his arm. 168 00:10:56,190 --> 00:10:57,610 Mr. Bergman heard you later. 169 00:10:58,990 --> 00:11:04,830 In his first interrogation, he said that after a fight with the victim, 170 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:07,510 he had left the house with a bottle of rum. 171 00:11:08,190 --> 00:11:11,710 He had parked somewhere on a forest road. 172 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:16,610 He was noticed by a neighbor at 10 p.m. 173 00:11:18,030 --> 00:11:21,210 The same neighbor passed by again 45 minutes later. 174 00:11:23,210 --> 00:11:26,670 Then the car of Mr. Bergman disappeared without a trace. 175 00:11:27,830 --> 00:11:30,230 Then Mr. Bergman changed his statement. 176 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:34,930 He said that he had trouble with street lighting. 177 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:36,850 For this reason he had moved his car. 178 00:11:37,690 --> 00:11:39,950 He pointed us to a second location. 179 00:11:41,470 --> 00:11:44,590 It was impossible that he had been there all night. 180 00:11:45,410 --> 00:11:48,890 He pointed us to a third location. 181 00:11:50,070 --> 00:11:54,130 We did not find any evidence to confirm his statement. 182 00:11:55,450 --> 00:11:58,610 But you had a mask interrogation carried out at the GSM. 183 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:00,630 Certainly. 184 00:12:01,150 --> 00:12:05,070 At 2 a.m. he had a phone call with his daughter. 185 00:12:05,630 --> 00:12:09,290 Then there was a number of times of data traffic that night. 186 00:12:09,570 --> 00:12:13,330 We deduce that he was in the neighborhood all night. 187 00:12:13,330 --> 00:12:18,770 This mask is also found near the victim's house. 188 00:12:19,650 --> 00:12:26,810 Can Mr. Dirkens indicate where my client parked his car that night? 189 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:28,170 That's there. 190 00:12:29,310 --> 00:12:31,630 Under which GSM mask does he fall down the forest road? 191 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:34,720 This one. 192 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,720 That's the same mask. 193 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Correct. 194 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:41,940 That's why we can't disprove his statement. 195 00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:45,060 Or we can just confirm his statement. 196 00:12:46,580 --> 00:12:48,480 Mr. De Donker, you have a point. 197 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,260 If Mr. Bergman moved from the house to the forest road, 198 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,440 is that visible on the mask interrogation? 199 00:12:58,940 --> 00:12:59,700 No. 200 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,720 But it is perfectly possible. 201 00:13:03,580 --> 00:13:05,640 And the ANPR cameras? 202 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:07,460 Is Mr. Bergman's car visible on them? 203 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:10,980 There is one ANPR camera. 204 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:14,920 But Mr. Bergman's car has never been registered. 205 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,840 Mr. Dirkens, your mask interrogation and your cameras can show 206 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,980 that my client was still at the crime scene that night. 207 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,060 And yet you try to prove that to everyone. 208 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:31,100 Mr. De Donker, it is at the crime scene that we found your client. 209 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:32,980 This morning. 210 00:13:34,020 --> 00:13:35,440 When Mrs. Coens was already dead. 211 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Go ahead, Mr. Donderzoek. 212 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,780 Julie Bergman was not at the crime scene that morning, 213 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:43,780 but with a friend. 214 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Inspector Verbeeken from the premises 215 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,960 reported the bad news as soon as possible. 216 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,600 How did she react? 217 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:52,740 She was hit. 218 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,240 But she seemed interested in the fact that her father was arrested. 219 00:13:58,820 --> 00:13:59,900 She admitted that night. 220 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:07,540 According to her, she pushed Marianne Coens off the stairs 221 00:14:07,540 --> 00:14:10,880 Was that statement meaningful to you? 222 00:14:11,380 --> 00:14:13,360 She certainly had killer knowledge. 223 00:14:14,340 --> 00:14:17,540 A sweater of hers was found in the washing machine. 224 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:21,980 Blood remains from the victim are visible on the zipper. 225 00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:24,280 So she was still in contact with the victim. 226 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:26,840 There is no doubt about that. 227 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,640 But later her statement did not seem to make sense. 228 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,300 Indeed, the lab later found a blood trail. 229 00:14:35,860 --> 00:14:38,820 From the living room to the basement. 230 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:42,000 Those blood remains also turned out to be the result of the victim. 231 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:46,080 The doctor also pointed out a number of things 232 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,300 that did not match with a fall from the stairs. 233 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:51,720 Professor Sterks, what were your findings? 234 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,360 We found several fractures on Mrs. Marianne Coens' back. 235 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,260 And a broken rib. 236 00:14:58,260 --> 00:15:03,780 And bleeding on the hips, on both legs. 237 00:15:04,140 --> 00:15:06,640 On the wrists and in the face. 238 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,420 These seem to confirm a fall from the stairs. 239 00:15:11,260 --> 00:15:13,140 But we found two noticeable wounds. 240 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:15,980 They are located above the capillary area. 241 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:18,640 Which is suggestive for blows to the head. 242 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,680 We also see that the blows were made with a weapon with great swing power. 243 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Like a golf stick, a cow foot or a metal pipe. 244 00:15:28,740 --> 00:15:32,400 Are these wounds the cause of Marianne Coens' death? 245 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:34,440 No, they are not. 246 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,600 The blows have a great impact. 247 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,900 But we have not yet found skull fractures or blood around the brain. 248 00:15:42,860 --> 00:15:44,920 So the blows are not the cause of death. 249 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:48,060 Let alone the probable fall from the stairs. 250 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:53,040 But under the eyelids we found puncture wounds. 251 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,420 And when I see puncture wounds, I immediately turn off all alarm bells. 252 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,060 We think of bulging or suffocation with puncture wounds. 253 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:10,420 Where the mouth and nose are sealed with probably a plastic bag. 254 00:16:10,420 --> 00:16:15,780 You should know that if you want to stab someone ... 255 00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:18,120 ... you have to cut the wound in at least 1.5 minutes. 256 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:29,310 Did Mrs. Coens see a lot? 257 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:36,030 You see the nature of the wounds ... 258 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:36,630 Yes. 259 00:16:38,270 --> 00:16:38,670 Undoubtedly. 260 00:17:08,859 --> 00:17:09,819 Are you okay? 261 00:17:12,569 --> 00:17:13,810 Those pictures ... 262 00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:15,470 It's not my mom. 263 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:19,030 She doesn't even look like her. 264 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,460 Do you believe what they say? 265 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:30,410 Master of the Dark certainly does not say that. 266 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:33,270 And that doctor? 267 00:17:34,290 --> 00:17:35,890 That person just notes what is. 268 00:17:36,930 --> 00:17:39,110 Anton says something completely different. And you? 269 00:17:40,370 --> 00:17:41,450 Then they will lie. 270 00:17:48,340 --> 00:17:49,180 Such a pity. 271 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,640 It's crazy that you have to see such pictures of your mother. 272 00:17:57,140 --> 00:17:58,180 It can be. 273 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,820 What are we going to do for two more weeks? 274 00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:01,500 Of course. 275 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,420 It's just the first interrogation. 276 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Wait, before the lawyers start ... 277 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,380 You don't mean that. 278 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:07,240 What? 279 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,760 I have ... 280 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,760 I have coffee with me. 281 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:14,620 Someone wants coffee? 282 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,060 Yes. 283 00:18:17,020 --> 00:18:18,960 And I don't believe anything of that Anton. 284 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,740 Those witnesses see Bergman at ten o'clock, but not at a quarter to eleven. 285 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,120 I'm sorry, but I can't. 286 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:27,060 Why not? 287 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,980 Anton Bergman said he wasn't there anymore. 288 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Isn't it obvious that the police didn't find anything? 289 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,200 Did you have traces of where you came from? 290 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,180 Do you change your statement three times when you speak the truth? 291 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,420 That girl was maybe a bit ... 292 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:40,900 The prophet? 293 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,640 What does he say? 294 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,140 Being a teacher is always important. 295 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,920 Are you really as beautiful as in your picture? 296 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,100 Witte, send it back to me. 297 00:18:57,260 --> 00:18:57,740 Hopefully. 298 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,700 It's so cozy here. 299 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,340 Yes, Jacob. 300 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:09,320 It's under the masks. 301 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:20,510 I wouldn't want to miss this. 302 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,580 It's a small machine, but you can take it with you. 303 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:28,400 Thank you. 304 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:33,100 What I'm worried about is that blood trail from the living room to the basement. 305 00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:34,840 Yes, and then crouched. 306 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,060 What can we do? 307 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,900 The little villain would never defend the girl if there was no other explanation. 308 00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:42,220 And the washing machine? 309 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,260 With blood on it? 310 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,400 If Julie Bergman says she tried to resuscitate Marianne, 311 00:19:47,540 --> 00:19:48,620 could that be it? 312 00:19:49,660 --> 00:19:51,080 Witte, I just don't believe it. 313 00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:52,880 She's such a fragile girl. 314 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,040 She wouldn't have done that. 315 00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:55,740 Don't let her down. 316 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,540 The child is lying. 317 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,140 Come on. 318 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,660 She can just hide it. 319 00:20:15,970 --> 00:20:17,200 What do you know about Jean's pictures? 320 00:20:19,820 --> 00:20:21,800 That they're exposed. 321 00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:28,000 Do you know who took them? 322 00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:32,000 Why is Jean saying you did it? 323 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:36,700 Jean is angry with me. 324 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:38,020 Because I did it. 325 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,300 She did kiss someone else. 326 00:20:42,020 --> 00:20:44,020 Jean didn't take those pictures. Who did it? 327 00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:50,120 We're talking to you. 328 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,920 Give me that phone. 329 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,340 I'm here. 330 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,740 What's that? 331 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:06,900 Kobe. 332 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,420 Who's that in your email? 333 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,580 That's Sanner Nieuwlief. 334 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,380 And he says I sent those pictures. 335 00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:21,780 But I'm sure he did it himself. 336 00:21:30,140 --> 00:21:31,620 That he put a guy on your shirt? 337 00:21:32,860 --> 00:21:34,620 Did he send you those pictures? 338 00:21:38,350 --> 00:21:39,330 He didn't mean that. 339 00:21:41,210 --> 00:21:43,150 Kobe, why is he doing that? 340 00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:44,630 I'm going to call the school. 341 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:47,510 He can't just turn you down. 342 00:21:48,610 --> 00:21:49,890 Please don't. 343 00:21:50,130 --> 00:21:51,250 You'll only make it worse. 344 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:57,160 If he turns you down again, he'll have to deal with us. 345 00:22:02,260 --> 00:22:04,740 Kobe, are you involved in those pictures? 346 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,880 Not at all. 347 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:24,540 Mr. Investigator, I've been told this was your first murder. 348 00:22:25,980 --> 00:22:28,300 I don't know how that could be relevant. 349 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,980 But it's true. 350 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:31,740 Proficiat. 351 00:22:31,940 --> 00:22:32,340 Thank you. 352 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:33,520 No, and I mean that. 353 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,040 From the bottom of my heart. 354 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,140 According to the press, I'm an asshole. 355 00:22:39,860 --> 00:22:41,800 And who would believe the newspapers today? 356 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,140 But, to the point. 357 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,160 Mr. Dirkens. 358 00:22:50,060 --> 00:22:54,820 As an investigator, you decide which investigations are carried out... 359 00:22:54,820 --> 00:22:56,020 and which are not. 360 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,040 That's correct. 361 00:22:58,180 --> 00:23:01,500 Can you tell me more about the DNA investigation in this case? 362 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,900 Besides her own profile... 363 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:10,260 there's also the DNA of Anton Bergman, Julie Bergman... 364 00:23:10,260 --> 00:23:12,280 and Dennis Pijken, who found her. 365 00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:13,020 Yes. 366 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:16,000 But also from other traces? 367 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,320 To a lesser extent, yes. 368 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,600 But no matches have been found. 369 00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:23,480 I'm trying to understand. 370 00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:25,320 I'm just a simple human being, Mr. Dirkens. 371 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,360 But it's true that you have to have someone's DNA... 372 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:34,500 before you can compare it to the DNA found on Mrs. Koontz's body. 373 00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:35,620 That's correct. 374 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,400 There was a party that day. 375 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,680 A barbecue. 376 00:23:41,180 --> 00:23:44,040 Did you ask for the DNA of the people present? 377 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:47,720 If they led us too far. 378 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,800 So, no. 379 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:50,640 No. 380 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,640 How many people were there at the barbecue? 381 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:55,900 There were 14 people. 382 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:57,920 14 people. 383 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,620 That's not a real football stadium. 384 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:03,720 Right, Mr. Dirkens? 385 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,340 Was a murder weapon found? 386 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,140 No. 387 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,260 Not searched for? 388 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:10,240 Not found. 389 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,380 Not found. 390 00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:14,100 And how late did Mrs. Koontz die? 391 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,380 Or should I look at your colleague, Dr... 392 00:24:17,380 --> 00:24:17,840 Professor. 393 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:18,400 Professor. 394 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,680 We can't tell the exact time. 395 00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,520 A rough estimate, Professor? 396 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,420 Between 9 p.m. and 3 a.m. 397 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:29,780 At the time my client would have been older. 398 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,220 Or is that true? 399 00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:35,060 Mr. Dirkens, I understand it's hard to investigate everything. 400 00:24:35,460 --> 00:24:36,520 Almost impossible. 401 00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:37,080 Right? 402 00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:42,060 We had to make choices with our team, as we always do. 403 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:42,740 Always? 404 00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:45,280 But you just said this was your first case. 405 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,440 Or as it always happens. 406 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:49,920 Yes. 407 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,720 A bit confusing, but okay. 408 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Mr. Dirkens, as an investigator, you made choices. 409 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,720 But if there are other traces that could lead to another suspect... 410 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,300 there's a chance they're still there. 411 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:06,100 Is there a dark side? 412 00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:08,480 And were there no other suspects? 413 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,860 So it's not in order at all, you say. 414 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,160 I think you make choices about who is already suspected... 415 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,980 instead of which traces you investigate. 416 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:22,060 You're complaining, sir. 417 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,040 No, Mrs. Chairman. 418 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:24,860 No, not yet. 419 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:26,500 That's with more show. 420 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,180 That's with the big gestures. 421 00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:32,620 All very funny, Mr. Mattersakenbraak. 422 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,960 I'll make it short, Mrs. Chairman. 423 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,980 Mr. Dirkens, in all seriousness... 424 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,460 I don't doubt that Mrs. Koens was brutally murdered. 425 00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:47,880 But the question is, by whom? 426 00:25:50,910 --> 00:25:51,830 By Julie Bergman? 427 00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:56,520 Probably. 428 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,430 By my client? 429 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,460 No doubt about it. 430 00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,040 I'm sure there are people here today... 431 00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:12,140 who fit your story better than my client. 432 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,660 But it was chosen not to investigate them. 433 00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:31,100 I'm done. 434 00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:41,620 Those lawyers are useless. 435 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:43,720 Mr. Linne, you're exaggerating. 436 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,560 They just do their job. 437 00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:47,460 Here. 438 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,800 What do you see? 439 00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:50,360 A pear. 440 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,640 My pear. 441 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,560 It's dark at the table. 442 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:54,760 It makes a nice apple. 443 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:55,860 I told you. 444 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,860 He was right. 445 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,820 Half of the traces weren't investigated. 446 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,360 That he suspected the investigation... 447 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:03,940 was to be expected. 448 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:05,360 But he attacked Julie Bergman. 449 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:07,240 That's a punishment. 450 00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:10,260 That he showed Anton what had happened... 451 00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:11,000 is a punishment. 452 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:12,660 He's his own daughter. 453 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:16,120 I don't think he has a heart. 454 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,200 Or no choice. 455 00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:20,500 Cathy. 456 00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:21,540 Here. 457 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,000 A chair for you. 458 00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:32,210 Aren't we going to have a drink later? 459 00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:36,170 There's a jazz trio in my hotel. 460 00:27:36,290 --> 00:27:36,810 Hotel? 461 00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:38,310 Are you in love? 462 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:41,030 I never play with these guys. 463 00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:41,970 You'll have to park your car. 464 00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:43,770 A jazzman, huh? 465 00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:44,810 I knew it. 466 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:46,490 I was doubting. 467 00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:48,370 Classic or jazz? 468 00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:49,690 Come and listen. 469 00:27:50,290 --> 00:27:51,170 It's going to be hard. 470 00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:05,400 Julie, eat something. 471 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,600 You'll feel better. 472 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,520 Why does a lawyer do that? 473 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,720 He's trying to get your father out. 474 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:19,340 Dad has nothing to do with it. 475 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,800 He thinks the jury won't believe you. 476 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:28,440 Do you think so? 477 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:32,690 I can't look them in the eye. 478 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Dad thinks it's okay. 479 00:28:42,530 --> 00:28:44,870 I've known his lawyer for a long time. 480 00:28:45,950 --> 00:28:48,670 And believe me, your father didn't come up with this idea. 481 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,780 Everyone hates me. 482 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,200 Everyone hates me. 483 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,020 That's not true. 484 00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:17,430 Why do I have to go when I'm free? 485 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,260 Mrs Delcorte, welcome. 486 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,420 You were involved in the investigation as a blood track analyst. 487 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,540 Yes, that's right. 488 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:47,180 Is it true that the blood trail you found between the living room and the basement 489 00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:52,700 has convinced you that we are dealing with a crime committed by two perpetrators? 490 00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:56,720 That the body was moved by two people, yes. 491 00:29:57,620 --> 00:29:58,480 Can you explain that? 492 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,600 The lab found blood between the living room and the basement. 493 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880 A clear blood trail is visible. 494 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:10,200 As you can see, there is a small blood stain 495 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,500 that then goes into a blood trail when the body is lifted. 496 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,120 By two people? 497 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,120 If the body was dragged by one person, there would also be fracture marks. 498 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,020 Are you sure that blood is from Marianne Koens? 499 00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:28,420 100% sure, yes. 500 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Do you also know when that blood was found? 501 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,020 Blood is not dated, no. 502 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Then it may have ended earlier. 503 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,220 A week or a month, maybe even a year earlier. 504 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Yes, that's possible. 505 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,400 And was it a lot of blood? 506 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,800 That was a lot. 507 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,100 Yes, I also read in the file that there is a report of drops. 508 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,840 But if I understand Professor Sterk's point, 509 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,540 Mrs. Koens had several head wounds. 510 00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:01,440 Normally, a lot of blood comes with that, right? 511 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:05,080 Yes, but most of the blood was squeezed. 512 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:07,280 And we also absorbed a large part of Mrs. Koens' hair. 513 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,960 I have a written statement from the victim's family doctor. 514 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,920 It states that Marianne Koens regularly suffered from nosebleeds 515 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,960 as a result of the use of the medicine Sumatriptan. 516 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:23,800 That's for cluster headaches. 517 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Is it possible that the blood you found is from a blood nose? 518 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:36,980 In this case, there is a high density between the individual spots in the pattern 519 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:38,720 which indicates a slow movement. 520 00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:41,760 A person would move much faster with a blood nose. 521 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,900 And the drops would be much further apart. 522 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:50,240 Is it possible that the Blue Star, which you always use to track the blood, 523 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:52,200 reacts with Chavelle? 524 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,780 Blue Star does indeed bind with hemoglobin 525 00:31:55,780 --> 00:32:01,840 and can give a false positive result in products with highly oxidizing components, 526 00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:02,580 such as Chavelle. 527 00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:03,200 Yes. 528 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:03,920 Also broccoli? 529 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,460 Even broccoli? 530 00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:05,800 Yes. 531 00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:08,000 Oh my God, you're not going to get away with that. 532 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:16,160 I read in the file that the living room was recently cleaned with Chavelle. 533 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Is it possible that it caused confusion regarding the blood trail? 534 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Even then, the outer ring of the blood drop, the skeletal ring, 535 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,680 remains visible. 536 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,180 But it's a fact that Chavelle has made our work difficult. 537 00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:36,460 So my theory that the blood flow could be from a blood nose... 538 00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:37,180 It's not conceivable. 539 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,820 But it's not entirely impossible. 540 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,740 It's not entirely impossible. 541 00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:42,800 Thank you. 542 00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:49,640 Professor Sterks, you just said that the head wounds are above the gutter zone, 543 00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,060 which is suggestive of a blow to the head. 544 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,740 What do you mean by that? 545 00:32:56,300 --> 00:33:00,100 That it's more likely that the head wounds come from a blow to the head 546 00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,200 than from a fall from the stairs. 547 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,420 More likely? 548 00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:04,620 And is that a certainty? 549 00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:06,980 Let's say 100 percent. 550 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,100 No, that's a presumption. 551 00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:12,740 But that's a presumption with 26 years of experience. 552 00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:13,660 Yes, yes. 553 00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:18,780 So in principle, those head wounds can be a result of a fall from the stairs. 554 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Yes, listen. 555 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,670 The victim had two clear impacts of about the same dimension 556 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,620 on one side of the head. 557 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,360 So that seems pretty unlikely to me. 558 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,660 Those stitches we were just talking about, did you find any traces of that? 559 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Because you have to put a lot of effort into stitching someone. 560 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,660 The jaw skeleton was still intact. 561 00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:42,320 And that's bizarre. 562 00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:44,580 But that's not unusual. 563 00:33:44,820 --> 00:33:48,520 Look, if you stitch someone with a plastic bag and the victim doesn't notice it, 564 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:49,920 then it's possible. 565 00:33:50,420 --> 00:33:50,480 Yes. 566 00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:56,780 And can such point bleeding also occur after resuscitation? 567 00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:59,630 That's possible. 568 00:34:00,170 --> 00:34:01,030 That's very unusual. 569 00:34:01,670 --> 00:34:03,370 But I've seen it before, yes. 570 00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:04,290 That's possible, yes. 571 00:34:04,450 --> 00:34:05,390 Because I have... 572 00:34:05,390 --> 00:34:06,450 I'll quote for a moment. 573 00:34:07,030 --> 00:34:08,429 Around the victim's mouth, 574 00:34:09,929 --> 00:34:13,469 there was lip gloss, snot and dried up mucus found. 575 00:34:14,409 --> 00:34:16,150 Were those from the victim himself? 576 00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:16,989 No. 577 00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:20,590 DNA research has shown that it was from Julie Bergman. 578 00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:22,810 How is that possible? 579 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:26,380 A kiss? 580 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:27,600 On the mouth? 581 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,340 That's only ten for two people who don't get along. 582 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,020 What do you think? 583 00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:34,760 A kiss on the mouth? 584 00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:36,060 Or a resuscitation? 585 00:34:40,150 --> 00:34:42,710 What I find so strange about this story is, 586 00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:46,489 why would you try to resuscitate someone, 587 00:34:46,489 --> 00:34:48,489 if you've just hit them in the head? 588 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,520 Mrs Delcorte, to round it off. 589 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:57,420 I'm going to ask you to answer yes or no. 590 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:01,840 Is it possible that the blood you found there, 591 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,080 between the living room and the basement, 592 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,460 is from a blood nose? 593 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:11,650 That's not possible, but it's possible. 594 00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:12,430 Thank you. 595 00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:17,850 Mr Sterks, can the head wounds be from a staircase? 596 00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,990 I've told you, that's unlikely. 597 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:27,360 Can bleeding in the eyes occur after a resuscitation? 598 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:28,680 Yes. 599 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,900 Can the lip gloss on the victim be from that resuscitation? 600 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:34,100 Yes. 601 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:34,560 Yes? 602 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,780 Yes, thank you. 603 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,240 Four yes's on the question, 604 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,660 confirms the investigation, the explanation of my client. 605 00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:45,920 Sorry, but I think this is a bit short-sighted. 606 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,020 You frame a whole investigation based on four unlikely elements. 607 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,300 Mr. Loosensrichter, I have one more question. 608 00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:58,420 Is it possible that Julie Bergman, 609 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:00,980 her stepmother, accidentally pushed her down the stairs? 610 00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:03,820 She tried to resuscitate her, 611 00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:07,460 but then she panicked and left without informing the emergency services. 612 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000 That would fall under the category of guilty of embezzlement. 613 00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:29,630 It's as if I did it, goddammit. 614 00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:33,170 And now, according to that stepmother, Julie only panicked. 615 00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:34,510 And that's possible. 616 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:39,190 She can try, but the jury won't follow. 617 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:41,490 And did the jury believe that version? 618 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:43,550 Romy, please, come on. 619 00:36:43,930 --> 00:36:45,070 Pixie is there, come on. 620 00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:48,090 If they believe her, her penalty will be lifted. 621 00:36:49,330 --> 00:36:51,530 And then she can be released after the trial. 622 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:54,910 Goddammit. 623 00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:58,990 Come on, see you tomorrow. 624 00:36:59,110 --> 00:37:00,370 But that's not going to happen. 625 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,240 Do I have to stay here tonight? 626 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:40,820 What are you going to do? 627 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:42,500 Put on my pajamas and read a story? 628 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,140 Please, I just want to help. 629 00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:49,940 I understand you're having a hard time, but... 630 00:37:54,070 --> 00:37:55,450 I don't know if I can do this. 631 00:37:58,350 --> 00:37:59,490 I'll be gone in two weeks. 632 00:38:01,270 --> 00:38:02,230 And then you can leave it to yourself. 633 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:04,290 Or not. 634 00:38:05,290 --> 00:38:07,290 If you want to destroy yourself, you have to do it. 635 00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:09,550 But I won't stand there and watch, Dennis. 636 00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:13,830 It'll be fine, son. 637 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:19,150 It'll be fine, I say. 638 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,140 And call me if I have to help you with your pajamas. 639 00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:30,260 But I'll leave you to it, son. 640 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:41,450 You have to come back today. 641 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,020 I'll bring your model contract. 642 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,460 Yes, bye. 643 00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:51,290 Hey, Hanan. 644 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:54,510 Can you give me a minute? I can't do it in three minutes. 645 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:55,870 What's up? 646 00:38:56,490 --> 00:38:57,570 I can't sit at the table. 647 00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:00,130 Come on. 648 00:39:00,770 --> 00:39:01,150 Sit down. 649 00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:05,290 Come on. 650 00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:08,390 Let's see. 651 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:09,830 What is it? 652 00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:10,690 Ah, I've got it. 653 00:39:11,570 --> 00:39:12,170 How many times is one? 654 00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:13,310 One. 655 00:39:14,030 --> 00:39:14,850 And two times one? 656 00:39:15,350 --> 00:39:17,530 Two and three times one is three. 657 00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:19,550 It's okay, right? 658 00:39:19,810 --> 00:39:21,350 Yes, but five times six. 659 00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:23,470 What are you doing? 660 00:39:24,570 --> 00:39:27,550 You look at all those tables at the same time. 661 00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:29,630 And they look like gigantic mountain climbers. 662 00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:32,470 You want to jump over that mountain, but it's not that easy. 663 00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:34,610 Start with the beginning. 664 00:39:35,490 --> 00:39:36,750 And one by one, you'll get it. 665 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:38,450 Don't give up. 666 00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:40,170 Work hard and you'll get it. 667 00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:41,530 Do you understand? 668 00:39:42,830 --> 00:39:44,050 It's an exercise, man. 669 00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:11,250 Can you do it? 670 00:40:19,660 --> 00:40:21,200 An African dance. 671 00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:23,100 With a little bit of temptation. 672 00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:24,080 Like this. 673 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:29,600 And pot-making. 674 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,820 I don't have that at home. 675 00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:33,860 Doesn't your husband like that? 676 00:40:33,860 --> 00:40:34,240 He doesn't mind. 677 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,460 He's waving at his people from time to time. 678 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:38,920 Sorry. 679 00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:41,340 I didn't know. 680 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,860 It's okay, man. 681 00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:43,900 Life goes on. 682 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,520 Do you have hobbies, Catherine? 683 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:51,520 I followed tango lessons. 684 00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:53,120 With my daughter. 685 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,040 She's in Frankfurt for a year now. 686 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,140 With your daughter? 687 00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,560 Doesn't your husband dance? 688 00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:05,560 He's been dancing for a few months now. 689 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:10,290 Separated as well. 690 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,660 Anyone else drinking? 691 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,080 Jacob? 692 00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:09,140 Hello, Gert. 693 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:09,620 Hey. 694 00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:10,820 Hello. 695 00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:11,620 Hey. 696 00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:11,700 You're here. 697 00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:14,080 Wow. 698 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:15,460 You've noticed me already. 699 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:17,700 She's your father. 700 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,900 What's up with those pictures? 701 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:31,800 That's the school from Copenhagen. 702 00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,660 I don't care about that. 703 00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:36,500 He'd never do that. 704 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,040 What's up with you, Laura? 705 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:46,940 Time for some kids. 706 00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:50,420 Come on, Copenhagen. 707 00:42:59,190 --> 00:43:00,590 This is the basement. 708 00:43:00,610 --> 00:43:01,390 Did you order a taxi? 709 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:04,150 Yes, I did. 710 00:43:04,430 --> 00:43:05,570 That was quick. 711 00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:07,690 I didn't mean to. 712 00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:10,690 Come on. 713 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:13,850 Oh, God. 714 00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:16,890 Drink lots of water when you get home. 715 00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:19,190 Don't drink too much water. 716 00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:23,130 Jacob. 717 00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:27,270 See you tomorrow. 718 00:43:28,580 --> 00:43:29,050 Oops. 719 00:43:33,590 --> 00:43:34,410 A melon for me. 720 00:43:34,730 --> 00:43:35,290 What else are you drinking? 721 00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:39,170 I was thinking about going home. 722 00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:46,190 A pint. 723 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,090 That's the same. 724 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:49,250 It's been a long time. 725 00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:01,720 I haven't had much to talk about tonight. 726 00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:05,120 I don't have much to say either. 727 00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:09,260 I don't really like to be here. 728 00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:12,860 It's the second time I've been to a hotel. 729 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,960 What was the first time? 730 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,120 My wedding trip. 731 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,520 In Crete. 732 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,560 It was all in. 733 00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:27,560 Everything was in English. 734 00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:30,620 Palm trees. 735 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,140 Empty rooms. 736 00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:38,100 A bit of a prelude to a wedding. 737 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,820 I didn't think my wedding was that bad. 738 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,160 But my husband did. 739 00:44:58,380 --> 00:44:58,940 Sorry. 740 00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,880 I didn't mean to... 741 00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:16,600 I'd like to know what you think. 742 00:45:54,010 --> 00:45:55,870 As good as the all-in in Crete? 743 00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:08,140 I don't know if that's a good idea. 744 00:46:09,220 --> 00:46:10,760 We don't know each other yet. 745 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,350 Don't think too much about it. 746 00:47:25,790 --> 00:47:26,170 Please. 747 00:47:30,420 --> 00:47:31,380 Don't do it. 748 00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:31,820 Please. 749 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,340 Don't do it. 750 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,420 I'm sorry. 751 00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:38,980 I'm sorry. 752 00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:14,300 We'll see about that later. 753 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,780 I'm going to be busy. 754 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:19,800 Bye. 755 00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:24,650 Who let you in here? 756 00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:28,280 You can't be here. 757 00:52:31,340 --> 00:52:32,740 Has anyone seen Julie? 758 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,220 No, sir. 759 00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:34,860 Can you please leave? 760 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,160 Yes?