1 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:25,166 [line ringing] 2 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:30,834 [Aaron speaking] 3 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:49,333 After my claims that Nick Carter sexually assaulted me... 4 00:00:52,266 --> 00:00:55,166 I experienced two years of harassment, 5 00:00:56,066 --> 00:00:58,333 and people not believing me. 6 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,000 Aaron Carter owed me nothing. 7 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,166 Everybody, um, out there just let Melissa tell her story. 8 00:01:08,166 --> 00:01:10,867 [Melissa] He did not have to stand up. 9 00:01:10,867 --> 00:01:14,266 But he started speaking out a lot. 10 00:01:17,266 --> 00:01:21,166 [Aaron] I'm a massive silent striker, and I'm not gonna stop. 11 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,100 [Scaachi Koul] Aaron talking about all these women 12 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:29,767 that Nick is alleged to have assaulted, 13 00:01:29,834 --> 00:01:31,567 forces it back into the public consciousness. 14 00:01:31,567 --> 00:01:33,567 [reporter] Aaron shared a lengthy rant accusing Nick 15 00:01:33,634 --> 00:01:35,166 of being violent with several women. 16 00:01:36,467 --> 00:01:38,567 [Jen] Aaron made everything public. 17 00:01:38,634 --> 00:01:42,533 [Aaron] He abused me my whole childhood. 18 00:01:44,166 --> 00:01:46,567 He was taught any publicity is good publicity. 19 00:01:46,567 --> 00:01:48,834 -Don't spit in my face. I'm sick of you doing this. -You'll respect me. 20 00:01:49,767 --> 00:01:52,467 The dysfunction is real and deep. 21 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,734 Made worse by spending formative years in the public eye. 22 00:01:58,767 --> 00:02:02,433 With both of them, there is a root cause of the chaos. 23 00:02:03,667 --> 00:02:05,767 [John Spaulding] Nick and Aaron are both victims 24 00:02:05,767 --> 00:02:09,233 of bad parenting, of poor choices, 25 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:11,934 of neglect. 26 00:02:17,367 --> 00:02:19,166 The damage was irrevocable. 27 00:02:21,066 --> 00:02:25,834 [Zena Burns] I think Aaron deserves for people to know 28 00:02:26,767 --> 00:02:28,367 what he had to go through. 29 00:02:29,367 --> 00:02:32,767 It is incredibly, incredibly tragic. 30 00:02:32,767 --> 00:02:34,533 [sirens blaring] 31 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,367 [interviewer] What are your ambitions? 32 00:02:50,367 --> 00:02:52,767 You're going to be famous... You are famous now. 33 00:02:52,767 --> 00:02:55,967 Are you going to be as big, do you think, as, uh, Nick? 34 00:02:56,033 --> 00:02:57,467 As Nick? Uh... 35 00:02:58,367 --> 00:03:00,100 I don't know. I mean, I hope so. 36 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:03,266 But not really in the sense of being big. 37 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:07,567 Just having a good time, and succeeding in my life and fulfilling my goals 38 00:03:07,567 --> 00:03:09,433 is all that really matters. 39 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,033 [Mark Giovi] Aaron had what you called the X factor. 40 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,734 I call it "the David Lee Roth thing." 41 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:24,567 I was Aaron Carter's tour manager. 42 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,066 He would walk out on the stage, 43 00:03:27,133 --> 00:03:30,667 and you could just see the fans, the girls, going crazy. 44 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:32,667 [announcer] Aaron Carter! Whoo-hoo! 45 00:03:32,667 --> 00:03:34,066 Hello. 46 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:38,000 [Lori Majewski] And we think Nick was young. 47 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,166 He was 13 when he gets into the Backstreet Boys, 48 00:03:40,166 --> 00:03:43,767 seventeen when they had that immense success. 49 00:03:43,834 --> 00:03:46,066 Aaron was in the single digits. 50 00:03:47,767 --> 00:03:51,867 I don't know that anyone expected Aaron to take off just as quickly 51 00:03:51,867 --> 00:03:55,367 and just as big as he took off. 52 00:03:55,367 --> 00:03:58,467 Aaron's first album came out when he was nine, 53 00:03:58,467 --> 00:04:01,233 and he sold a million albums by the time he was ten. 54 00:04:03,166 --> 00:04:06,667 Aaron's Party (Come Get It) went triple platinum. 55 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:08,667 ♪ I want candy ♪ 56 00:04:08,667 --> 00:04:10,667 [Zena] "I Want Candy," that was a bop. 57 00:04:10,734 --> 00:04:12,367 There was an effervescent quality to it. 58 00:04:12,367 --> 00:04:14,967 Happy, fun. 59 00:04:14,967 --> 00:04:17,367 It just puts a smile on your face. 60 00:04:18,367 --> 00:04:20,667 [Mark] Watching him grow through the years 61 00:04:20,667 --> 00:04:25,634 and watching his career turn into this headlining act, 62 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:28,934 it was an interesting ride. 63 00:04:31,467 --> 00:04:33,066 [John] There was an extended period of time 64 00:04:33,133 --> 00:04:35,333 where, uh, Aaron was not around Nick. 65 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,433 And Aaron desperately missed his brother. 66 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:46,767 And while Aaron was on tour, we brought Nick out on stage at the end of the concert. 67 00:04:49,367 --> 00:04:51,467 And Aaron just broke down into tears. 68 00:04:51,467 --> 00:04:54,567 [Nick] I decided to make a guest appearance for my little brother. 69 00:04:55,967 --> 00:04:57,567 [John] They loved each other, obviously. 70 00:05:00,367 --> 00:05:01,867 It was a shame that they had to spend 71 00:05:01,867 --> 00:05:04,033 so much time away from each other. 72 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:13,000 I saw it as Nick and Aaron had been robbed 73 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:20,467 of a fundamental relationship in a family between two brothers. 74 00:05:20,467 --> 00:05:23,634 Because they had to focus on their careers. 75 00:05:27,867 --> 00:05:31,834 Jane Carter was the quintessential stage mom. 76 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,567 The stories of the Carters' financial struggles are no secret. 77 00:05:38,567 --> 00:05:43,066 And after Lou Pearlman put together the Backstreet Boys, 78 00:05:43,066 --> 00:05:49,266 the financial rewards of putting Nick through the Lou Pearlman star factory 79 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:56,367 were lucrative enough that, I think, when Jane saw the opportunity 80 00:05:56,433 --> 00:06:03,367 for another one of her sons to be rich and famous, she jumped at it. 81 00:06:03,367 --> 00:06:07,533 And thus Lou and Trans Continental Records started working with Aaron. 82 00:06:09,767 --> 00:06:12,467 Nick was floating his family. 83 00:06:12,467 --> 00:06:14,100 He was the reason that the rest of the family 84 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,634 was able to move into a nicer house. 85 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,100 But there were always whispers around Lou Pearlman 86 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:25,634 that he was inappropriate with his underage talent. 87 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,266 [Bob Curiano] When I first heard the rumor, I wasn't surprised. 88 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:35,867 Lou was very keyed into the way you looked. 89 00:06:35,867 --> 00:06:38,467 He wanted you to come over and work out. 90 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,066 And he actually had, uh, a method 91 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:46,734 that he would sculpt your abs to look a certain way. 92 00:06:47,667 --> 00:06:51,166 He had tried it on me in the early days. 93 00:06:51,166 --> 00:06:54,066 And 20 years later, it's in the news 94 00:06:54,133 --> 00:06:56,233 that he was doing it with them. 95 00:07:00,367 --> 00:07:04,734 I don't know how far it went, but he was grooming boys. 96 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:10,634 [photographer 1] Nick, can you get a... Can you wave? 97 00:07:11,567 --> 00:07:13,634 [photographer 2] And last big smile right at me, Nick. 98 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:16,367 [Scaachi] Nick, in his memoir, denied 99 00:07:16,367 --> 00:07:19,166 that there was anything inappropriate between him and Lou. 100 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,467 But Jane had done interviews before 101 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:27,567 where she had said that there was something amiss 102 00:07:27,567 --> 00:07:29,433 between Lou and her eldest son. 103 00:07:33,266 --> 00:07:37,066 She never really, really says it with her whole chest. 104 00:07:37,133 --> 00:07:41,367 But if Jane thought that Lou was doing anything with her eldest son, 105 00:07:41,433 --> 00:07:42,567 I don't know what she was thinking 106 00:07:42,634 --> 00:07:45,934 giving her youngest child then to Lou. 107 00:07:48,367 --> 00:07:51,867 [Bob] What is the price you'll pay for fame? 108 00:07:51,934 --> 00:07:55,834 Just how much will you give up to become famous? 109 00:07:57,567 --> 00:07:58,767 [John] When they were married, 110 00:07:58,834 --> 00:08:01,367 Jane and Bob managed Nick and Aaron. 111 00:08:01,367 --> 00:08:07,467 But when Nick turned 18, he removed his parents from being his managers. 112 00:08:07,533 --> 00:08:11,367 He wanted more from his relationship with them. 113 00:08:11,433 --> 00:08:15,567 They lashed out at him in retaliation for feeling that way. 114 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:18,767 It still bothers him to this day. 115 00:08:18,767 --> 00:08:20,467 It wasn't for lack of Nick trying 116 00:08:20,533 --> 00:08:22,166 to have a mother figure in his life. 117 00:08:22,233 --> 00:08:24,967 She just wasn't available to him at that capacity. 118 00:08:26,567 --> 00:08:29,033 [John] Jane and Bob were focused on money. 119 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,767 They took the responsibility from Nick 120 00:08:31,767 --> 00:08:34,166 and placed it on Aaron at a very young age. 121 00:08:35,567 --> 00:08:37,033 It's your job now. 122 00:08:41,967 --> 00:08:44,367 -[woman 1] Can we get a, uh-- -[man 1] Caption. 123 00:08:44,367 --> 00:08:46,166 -[man 2] He's into it. He's into it. -[woman 2] Aaron Carter. 124 00:08:46,233 --> 00:08:47,867 He's, uh, Nick Carter's little brother. 125 00:08:47,934 --> 00:08:49,767 [woman 1] Aaron, point at me right here. 126 00:08:49,767 --> 00:08:51,934 [overlapping conversations] 127 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:59,066 No child should have to think about the well-being of his family at that age. 128 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,266 [photographer] Aaron! 129 00:09:01,266 --> 00:09:02,367 [John] And it spilled over 130 00:09:02,367 --> 00:09:04,433 onto Aaron and Nick's relationship. 131 00:09:07,667 --> 00:09:10,567 I felt like there was a little bit of bitterness from Jane to Nick 132 00:09:10,567 --> 00:09:13,867 because he did decide to go off on his own 133 00:09:13,934 --> 00:09:16,834 and become financially independent from the family. 134 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:23,367 So then Jane was in Aaron's ear all the time. 135 00:09:23,433 --> 00:09:25,767 Anytime Aaron didn't want to do anything, 136 00:09:25,767 --> 00:09:27,634 "Well, do you think Nick takes a break?" 137 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,367 And I even heard Bob say to Aaron one time, 138 00:09:33,433 --> 00:09:35,467 "You're never gonna be as good as your brother." 139 00:09:39,166 --> 00:09:43,066 That ended up being a massive chip on Aaron's shoulder. 140 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:47,100 He didn't necessarily want to be in the shadows. 141 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:48,567 He wanted his own thing. 142 00:09:48,567 --> 00:09:50,433 Did you get famous from your brother? 143 00:09:51,767 --> 00:09:53,767 Um, I have a very good relationship with Nick. 144 00:09:53,834 --> 00:10:00,667 He didn't like to be reminded he wasn't at the same level of his brother. 145 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:02,266 [Jen] Nick had no idea. 146 00:10:02,266 --> 00:10:06,967 He didn't know that this was happening, you know, in the background. 147 00:10:06,967 --> 00:10:11,000 So one minute, Aaron was really happy and couldn't wait to see him, 148 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,066 the next minute, "You're my competition." 149 00:10:14,567 --> 00:10:17,433 [Mark] Jane and Bob Carter did some great things 150 00:10:18,867 --> 00:10:22,100 and advanced his career to what it was. 151 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:25,834 But they also did some negative things. 152 00:10:27,567 --> 00:10:32,867 They treated the children like employees. 153 00:10:40,266 --> 00:10:43,266 Aaron had the opportunity to be on Broadway, 154 00:10:43,266 --> 00:10:48,266 which was an amazing accomplishment for a 13-year-old. 155 00:10:48,266 --> 00:10:50,934 And it was the lead character for Seussical, the musical. 156 00:10:53,767 --> 00:10:56,367 [reporter] Carter is taking on Broadway. 157 00:10:56,367 --> 00:11:01,266 Seussical's producers hope his young fans will fill the seats to see their idol. 158 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:04,867 Screaming is allowed, but not screaming "I want candy." 159 00:11:04,867 --> 00:11:06,066 He did a great job. 160 00:11:07,967 --> 00:11:09,333 But it was grueling. 161 00:11:10,266 --> 00:11:12,667 And he had six shows a week. 162 00:11:12,667 --> 00:11:14,867 And his family, I guess, said they were going to go 163 00:11:14,867 --> 00:11:18,367 on a family vacation when Aaron was done. 164 00:11:18,367 --> 00:11:20,066 He was very much looking forward to that. 165 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:26,166 After the show, one night, he found out that his parents 166 00:11:26,233 --> 00:11:31,266 and his siblings were already on the family vacation without him. 167 00:11:32,367 --> 00:11:35,533 He was so angry at his family. 168 00:11:40,166 --> 00:11:44,133 He then picked up a knife and put it towards the side of his head. 169 00:11:45,967 --> 00:11:50,767 And we were all like, "Dude, what are you doing? 170 00:11:50,767 --> 00:11:53,233 Just put it down, put it down, put it down, put it down." 171 00:11:54,567 --> 00:11:59,367 And then his bodyguard went up to him and took it. 172 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,567 That was one of the scariest moments, 173 00:12:05,567 --> 00:12:09,734 um, that I've ever had working for Aaron. 174 00:12:12,567 --> 00:12:14,667 Nick talked to him on the phone. 175 00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:19,233 But his parents didn't come up to New York to see him after that. 176 00:12:24,266 --> 00:12:27,166 I... I can't explain that to you. 177 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,367 [John] When your child's a superstar, 178 00:12:31,367 --> 00:12:33,867 I would like to know how he's feeling. 179 00:12:33,867 --> 00:12:36,533 How it's affecting him emotionally, mentally. 180 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:43,734 I just don't feel that, uh, the parents were playing their role as parents should. 181 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,967 [Scaachi] The Carters created children 182 00:12:51,033 --> 00:12:56,166 that were disproportionately responsible for the family surviving. 183 00:13:00,467 --> 00:13:02,266 That is so gonna [bleep] with you. 184 00:13:03,567 --> 00:13:05,567 [Jen] I saw Aaron go from this beautiful, 185 00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:08,166 shining bright light of a human being, 186 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:10,834 who had everything at the palm of his hands, 187 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,166 to adult issues being thrown on him. 188 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,567 And irresponsibility. And just insanity. 189 00:13:29,367 --> 00:13:31,367 [Kaya Jones] This is a hard photo for me to look at 190 00:13:32,667 --> 00:13:35,367 because it's how I first met them. 191 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,967 Super happy brothers, but then weren't. 192 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,433 When we were together, Aaron came to live with me and Nick. 193 00:13:56,166 --> 00:13:58,567 He was so childlike all the time, 194 00:13:58,634 --> 00:14:00,767 you know, even though he was 16. 195 00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:03,467 So Nick was like a dad to him at periods of time. 196 00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:05,166 People just come here to just have fun. 197 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:08,867 -That's why I'm here, you know, with him. -[man] Yeah, exactly. 198 00:14:08,934 --> 00:14:11,266 [Kaya] A lot of the siblings looked up to Nick, 199 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:15,233 and he was good to his siblings at times. 200 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,533 Bobbie Jean lived with us, too. 201 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:22,967 But Nick wanted nothing to do with his mother. 202 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,767 He didn't want her in his life. 203 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,333 That might explain why he doesn't have a lot of respect for women. 204 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:36,066 But I never saw that part of him in the beginning. 205 00:14:36,066 --> 00:14:39,367 He was actually sober when we were together. 206 00:14:40,767 --> 00:14:42,567 But when he started drinking, 207 00:14:42,567 --> 00:14:44,634 it became a whole other thing. 208 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:50,266 [Dave Holmes] Nick had had some issues with alcohol. 209 00:14:51,567 --> 00:14:53,467 This was at the time in his career 210 00:14:53,467 --> 00:14:57,834 when the Backstreet thing is kind of off its peak. 211 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,033 When he started to drink, he just couldn't stop. 212 00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:12,266 It's bad when you're a girlfriend to someone, 213 00:15:12,266 --> 00:15:13,767 and you're in a recording studio, 214 00:15:15,567 --> 00:15:18,367 and your boyfriend vomited all over the studio. 215 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:22,767 When Nick was drunk, he was very chaotic. 216 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:27,266 After I left him, he got a horrible DUI. 217 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,266 You can see, like, something is going on. 218 00:15:33,567 --> 00:15:39,467 The alcohol played a big part in the downfall of the family. 219 00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:45,867 I had smoked pot with my Uncle Bob a couple of times. 220 00:15:45,867 --> 00:15:51,367 It was me, him and Nick and Aaron's oldest sister, Bobbie Jean. 221 00:15:51,433 --> 00:15:56,266 But from what I saw, none of them were doing anything heavy. 222 00:15:56,266 --> 00:15:59,367 I think the separation of the family is what started that, 223 00:15:59,367 --> 00:16:02,734 because Bob was more inclined to do those things. 224 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,066 When Jane and Bob split up, Jane moved off the property. 225 00:16:10,467 --> 00:16:14,033 Aaron told me that he would break into Bob's safe to get Xanax. 226 00:16:15,867 --> 00:16:17,834 I wasn't surprised. 227 00:16:19,367 --> 00:16:22,967 I would find these aerosol cans around the compound, 228 00:16:22,967 --> 00:16:26,634 and I found out that Aaron was using those aerosol cans to get high. 229 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:33,567 [John] Aaron was huffing paint with his dad. 230 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:39,166 I don't know how Bob even got into that 231 00:16:39,233 --> 00:16:40,834 and then doing that with his son. 232 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:45,000 Had I had the ability to stop it, 233 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,667 uh, to do something about it, uh, I would have... 234 00:16:48,967 --> 00:16:50,634 I would have immediately. 235 00:16:52,266 --> 00:16:55,667 [Jen] I remember having a conversation with Jane about it. 236 00:16:55,667 --> 00:16:59,767 I don't know what happened after that, but nothing changed. 237 00:17:01,166 --> 00:17:03,767 There's not enough anxiety medicine in the world 238 00:17:03,767 --> 00:17:06,266 that can take away the pain that a child feels 239 00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:09,166 being neglected by their family. 240 00:17:12,867 --> 00:17:17,266 As a teenager, Aaron filed for legal emancipation from his mother, Jane. 241 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:22,567 He alleged that she had embezzled $100,000 from him, 242 00:17:22,567 --> 00:17:26,667 and he no longer wanted her involved in his business dealings. 243 00:17:26,734 --> 00:17:29,333 Nor did he want to legally be her son. 244 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:36,266 There were lots of reports, and Aaron got really raw. 245 00:17:36,266 --> 00:17:37,567 It had a lot to do with anger, 246 00:17:37,567 --> 00:17:40,567 but I love her, and she's still my mother. 247 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,266 [Zena] At the end of the day, 248 00:17:43,266 --> 00:17:47,867 he didn't follow through with the emancipation filing. 249 00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:54,433 But there did seem to be a culture in the Carter family of fighting and chaos. 250 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,066 This is a family that was so steeped in pop culture from the '90s on. 251 00:18:02,767 --> 00:18:06,367 If you watch Nick and Aaron's reality show House of Carters, 252 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:09,867 it's a really interesting look at that family dynamic. 253 00:18:09,934 --> 00:18:12,266 All the siblings are living in the same house together 254 00:18:12,266 --> 00:18:13,867 for the first time since they were kids. 255 00:18:13,867 --> 00:18:15,166 Let's tell you something real quick. 256 00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:17,867 You're gonna turn the [bleep] music down and respect me. 257 00:18:17,867 --> 00:18:19,266 -All right? All right? -Don't spit in my face, dawg. 258 00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:20,967 -Don't spit in my face. -All right? All right? 259 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:24,767 Nick and Aaron get in a physical fight in one episode. 260 00:18:24,834 --> 00:18:28,367 Aaron is, sort of, shoved into this room by his brother. 261 00:18:28,433 --> 00:18:31,867 The door is closed, and all you hear is this scuffle. 262 00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:36,066 And then these boys emerge puffy and crying. 263 00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:40,166 You are not a good person, and everybody sees it, Nick! 264 00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:42,667 And then they just hug and say, "All right, let's move on." 265 00:18:42,734 --> 00:18:45,867 I'm not... I'm not... You know what? We're brothers. 266 00:18:45,867 --> 00:18:48,066 -I'm sorry. -There's still a level of intimidation in it 267 00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:49,266 between them. 268 00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:52,166 [Ashley] House of Carters was so accurate. 269 00:18:52,166 --> 00:18:54,166 They were always fighting with each other. 270 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:56,867 [woman] Get out of my kitchen. 271 00:18:56,934 --> 00:18:59,767 [Ashley] I had a front row seat for a while. 272 00:18:59,767 --> 00:19:02,767 It was always bickering like that. 273 00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:07,266 And honestly, out of the entire family, 274 00:19:07,266 --> 00:19:11,867 Leslie and Aaron were always kind, always respectful. 275 00:19:11,867 --> 00:19:14,967 [Jen] Leslie is the middle child in the family. 276 00:19:15,033 --> 00:19:16,934 And she was also a musician in her own right. 277 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:23,667 She had been taking Xanax for a long, long time, 278 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:24,700 just like Aaron. 279 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:31,333 But I didn't see a lot of effort go into helping her. 280 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,166 [Ashley] I personally saw Leslie struggle to cope 281 00:19:37,166 --> 00:19:40,433 with how she was treated by her family. 282 00:19:41,467 --> 00:19:45,967 She was quiet and just really sweet. 283 00:19:50,967 --> 00:19:55,367 Leslie died in January of 2012 284 00:19:56,266 --> 00:19:59,066 of a drug overdose. 285 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:07,634 [John] Jane blamed Nick for Leslie's death. 286 00:20:08,767 --> 00:20:12,533 She told Nick that, uh, he should have been there for her. 287 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,166 He had the money. 288 00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:15,767 Why didn't he do something? 289 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:18,433 I don't think it was Nick's responsibility. 290 00:20:22,767 --> 00:20:24,867 But I think Aaron took, uh, 291 00:20:24,867 --> 00:20:27,967 what his mom was saying to heart, 292 00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:30,934 and I think that damaged their relationship. 293 00:20:31,467 --> 00:20:32,467 I think that was her goal. 294 00:20:32,533 --> 00:20:34,166 I think she was trying to do that. 295 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,266 I started to get blamed by the rest of the family. 296 00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:44,467 [Zena] On the Dr. Phil show, Nick explains his guilt 297 00:20:44,467 --> 00:20:46,233 around Leslie passing away. 298 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,967 [Nick] There was definitely 299 00:20:48,033 --> 00:20:50,100 a part of me that did blame myself 300 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:53,567 because of the responsibility that I, sort of, took on 301 00:20:53,567 --> 00:20:57,367 as, um, the oldest member in my family. 302 00:20:57,433 --> 00:21:01,100 [Zena] I think that's an incredibly tough position to be in. 303 00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:04,000 Why did you not go to your sister's funeral? 304 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,166 The reason I did not go was because the conversation 305 00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:10,667 turned into not about her death 306 00:21:10,734 --> 00:21:12,634 and more about themselves. 307 00:21:14,667 --> 00:21:18,066 [Jen] Once Aaron found out that Nick wasn't coming 308 00:21:18,066 --> 00:21:19,266 to Leslie's funeral, 309 00:21:20,767 --> 00:21:22,567 the first thing that Jane did 310 00:21:22,634 --> 00:21:26,333 was tell Aaron, "He doesn't love you. 311 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:31,734 See? He doesn't love you." And that's not the truth. 312 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,333 But Aaron became very upset and very aggressive. 313 00:21:37,367 --> 00:21:40,367 Hitting Jane and had her up against the wall. 314 00:21:40,367 --> 00:21:44,166 It was an... just an insane moment to be in. 315 00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:48,467 I don't understand why a parent 316 00:21:48,467 --> 00:21:51,834 would push so hard to divide two brothers. 317 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,767 [Jen] After Leslie's funeral, it got really dark. 318 00:22:00,767 --> 00:22:05,834 I was really, really concerned for Nick, and for Aaron. 319 00:22:09,567 --> 00:22:12,567 But then Nick met someone that said, 320 00:22:12,634 --> 00:22:14,367 "Hey, you need help." 321 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,367 We need to get you in therapy, 322 00:22:17,367 --> 00:22:19,100 start coping with these things. 323 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,266 [Nick] I kind of put a... a barrier up 324 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:23,166 that I was never gonna get married. 325 00:22:23,233 --> 00:22:25,333 That, that was based on my family. 326 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,867 You know, seeing them divorce... 327 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,433 [Jen] Lauren went to therapy with him. 328 00:22:37,467 --> 00:22:39,667 Well, my parents divorced when I was nine. 329 00:22:39,667 --> 00:22:42,967 [Jen] To see Nick and Lauren on I (Heart) Nick Carter 330 00:22:42,967 --> 00:22:44,867 was pretty interesting 331 00:22:44,867 --> 00:22:47,166 because that's really how they are. 332 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:49,000 The only thing I have is... is Lauren 333 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,367 at the end of the day, that's it. 334 00:22:50,367 --> 00:22:53,433 That's all I have right now, and that's all I care about. 335 00:22:53,967 --> 00:22:55,967 I saw Nick a few years ago. 336 00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:57,867 He came on my radio show, 337 00:22:57,934 --> 00:23:01,266 and we talked about his family. 338 00:23:01,333 --> 00:23:06,867 He was doing his best to not recreate for his kids 339 00:23:06,867 --> 00:23:10,066 what he went through as a child. 340 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:13,867 [Scaachi] Nick was able to get sober, 341 00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:18,567 get married, build a family and continue having a career. 342 00:23:26,367 --> 00:23:29,667 But Aaron Carter only has a career as a child. 343 00:23:31,967 --> 00:23:32,867 [Zena] At a certain point, 344 00:23:32,867 --> 00:23:35,367 the demand for new Aaron Carter music, 345 00:23:35,367 --> 00:23:37,433 that just wasn't there. 346 00:23:38,367 --> 00:23:40,367 And at the same time, Aaron was dealing 347 00:23:40,367 --> 00:23:42,100 with his own personal troubles, 348 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,367 which he's been open about. 349 00:23:44,367 --> 00:23:47,100 I definitely felt like I... I hit a rock bottom 350 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,266 personally and emotionally. 351 00:23:49,266 --> 00:23:51,367 And that's when I thought, 352 00:23:51,367 --> 00:23:53,100 you know, this is... this is a time for me 353 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,266 to really go take some time and do some self-healing. 354 00:23:56,333 --> 00:23:58,367 [Scaachi] The older he gets, 355 00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:01,266 the more troubled his life seems to be. 356 00:24:01,266 --> 00:24:04,567 You can see he changed really drastically. 357 00:24:05,567 --> 00:24:08,266 [Mark] After he became an adult, 358 00:24:08,266 --> 00:24:10,567 Aaron had to go to rehab and, 359 00:24:10,567 --> 00:24:14,867 and Nick helped Aaron go through these rehabs. 360 00:24:17,467 --> 00:24:19,266 [Jen] Aaron did try. 361 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:21,767 Unfortunately, he had mental health issues 362 00:24:21,767 --> 00:24:23,667 that come along with being an addict. 363 00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:28,667 He was a very sensitive, sensitive person 364 00:24:28,734 --> 00:24:33,767 and all he wanted was to be loved. 365 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,934 [Lina] My name is Lina Valentina. 366 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,367 Aaron and I dated for a year. 367 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,367 It was a very intense year 'cause Aaron was struggling 368 00:24:51,367 --> 00:24:53,166 with mental health issues 369 00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:55,934 mixed with a very severe drug addiction. 370 00:24:57,266 --> 00:24:59,100 When he was normal, 371 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:03,166 he would be, kind, easy-going... 372 00:25:04,367 --> 00:25:05,567 But then, you know, like, 373 00:25:05,567 --> 00:25:08,967 if Aaron took a Xanax, it was like facing demon. 374 00:25:11,467 --> 00:25:14,100 Being around a drug addict is so painful 375 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,333 and really caused a lot of drifts in the family. 376 00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:20,533 But when Aaron got sober, 377 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,266 the whole family came together. 378 00:25:24,967 --> 00:25:27,467 [Jen] Nick finally thought, "Maybe I'll have a chance now 379 00:25:27,533 --> 00:25:29,266 to have a relationship with my brother. 380 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:32,834 He's cleaned up, he's doing good." 381 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,000 [Lina] Aaron loved his family. 382 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,367 Like, when him and Nick started talking again, 383 00:25:38,367 --> 00:25:40,467 he was like, ecstatic 384 00:25:40,467 --> 00:25:43,834 and spent so much time with Angel, his twin sister. 385 00:25:45,367 --> 00:25:48,867 He was just happy, he was healthy. 386 00:25:53,767 --> 00:25:56,467 And then he went back on tour. 387 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,467 [crowd cheering] 388 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,066 [Lina] He said, "I need Xanax. 389 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:03,834 I'm on tour and tour's so stressful." 390 00:26:04,767 --> 00:26:06,934 And end of July, he relapsed. 391 00:26:08,867 --> 00:26:10,867 He would go live on Instagram. 392 00:26:10,934 --> 00:26:12,367 Boom. I know how to lure you in. 393 00:26:12,367 --> 00:26:15,367 It's so easy. Look at 2.5... 4,000 people here. 394 00:26:15,433 --> 00:26:18,066 [Lina] He bought, like, five rifles. 395 00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:19,467 You always gotta stay strapped. 396 00:26:20,367 --> 00:26:25,000 [Lina] He was going live actually holding rifles, 397 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,967 telling people he's the Joker. 398 00:26:26,967 --> 00:26:27,900 [Aaron] I'm the Joker. 399 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:30,166 I'm not playing your game. You're playing mine. 400 00:26:30,166 --> 00:26:32,567 And it just got worse and worse and worse. 401 00:26:32,567 --> 00:26:34,367 I'm not one to [bleep] with. 402 00:26:34,367 --> 00:26:37,667 [Lina] Angel and Nick were really trying to get him help. 403 00:26:38,467 --> 00:26:41,066 So and then Nick goes on Twitter. 404 00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:43,467 Ooh, if you need my help... Shut the [bleep] up, bro. 405 00:26:43,467 --> 00:26:46,066 [Jen] Nick called me very concerned about his brother. 406 00:26:47,066 --> 00:26:48,967 And he started crying. 407 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,634 And he told me about how Aaron had been acting. 408 00:26:54,066 --> 00:26:55,667 How erratic he was being. 409 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,867 [Lina] A few weeks after he relapsed, 410 00:27:00,867 --> 00:27:04,066 Aaron started talking about his visions... 411 00:27:05,367 --> 00:27:08,734 of killing Lauren, Nick's wife, and children. 412 00:27:11,567 --> 00:27:13,066 I was afraid. 413 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:18,133 Me and Angel went to the police. 414 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,667 There was no help. 415 00:27:20,734 --> 00:27:23,467 But they said, "Well, if you file a restraining order, 416 00:27:23,467 --> 00:27:26,634 by law, the police are gonna have to take the guns away." 417 00:27:28,767 --> 00:27:30,367 [Jen] Nick felt hopeless. 418 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,066 All of a sudden, you've gone from being a loving brother 419 00:27:34,066 --> 00:27:37,533 to someone who has to protect themselves. 420 00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:41,367 It was like watching 421 00:27:41,433 --> 00:27:43,767 a roller coaster become unhinged. 422 00:27:44,266 --> 00:27:45,367 You can't stop the ride. 423 00:27:45,367 --> 00:27:48,467 [speaking indistinctly] 424 00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:49,867 [Jen] All you can do is just sit there 425 00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:53,166 and pray that it comes down and lands safely. 426 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,367 There's one right there. 427 00:27:55,433 --> 00:27:56,767 I can't be silenced. 428 00:27:56,767 --> 00:27:57,734 [cocks rifle] 429 00:28:11,567 --> 00:28:15,033 I was not keeping track of Aaron Carter. 430 00:28:15,767 --> 00:28:18,367 You know, we were both child stars 431 00:28:18,367 --> 00:28:21,934 in that early 2000, sort of, teen pop frenzy. 432 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,767 But I was not aware of things reported 433 00:28:27,767 --> 00:28:30,433 in the media prior to speaking to Aaron. 434 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,166 [line ringing] 435 00:28:34,166 --> 00:28:36,467 [Melissa over phone] Hi, Aaron. How are you? 436 00:28:36,467 --> 00:28:38,567 [Aaron over phone] I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. 437 00:28:42,266 --> 00:28:44,667 Initially, there was a level of concern. 438 00:28:44,667 --> 00:28:46,233 I said as much to Melissa. 439 00:28:47,667 --> 00:28:50,133 But she found somebody that she could relate to. 440 00:28:52,667 --> 00:28:54,467 [Melissa] He told me he believed me. 441 00:28:54,467 --> 00:28:58,467 And he was just, like, "That's my brother." 442 00:28:58,533 --> 00:29:01,467 Eventually we went live on Instagram together. 443 00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:03,467 So don't imprison me 444 00:29:03,467 --> 00:29:05,533 and expect me not to fight back. 445 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:09,266 He clearly suffered from extreme trauma, 446 00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:11,567 and he's disclosing to me 447 00:29:11,634 --> 00:29:12,767 extreme trauma. 448 00:29:12,767 --> 00:29:14,634 I get... I get what you mean. 449 00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:18,367 He expressed his support of me. 450 00:29:19,867 --> 00:29:21,767 But then the next day, 451 00:29:21,767 --> 00:29:24,867 Nick Carter and his sister, Angel, 452 00:29:24,867 --> 00:29:26,433 filed restraining orders. 453 00:29:30,166 --> 00:29:31,867 The media got a hold of it. 454 00:29:31,867 --> 00:29:33,000 [reporter] Well, Nick Carter says 455 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,266 he took out the restraining order 456 00:29:34,266 --> 00:29:37,533 because Aaron threatened to kill his pregnant wife. 457 00:29:38,066 --> 00:29:40,667 It was an absolute circus. 458 00:29:42,066 --> 00:29:46,066 I felt that it was a strategic action 459 00:29:46,133 --> 00:29:49,266 taken to retaliate against Aaron 460 00:29:49,266 --> 00:29:51,433 for saying those things about his brother. 461 00:29:52,066 --> 00:29:53,967 And for speaking to me publicly 462 00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:55,734 on his Instagram platform. 463 00:29:57,467 --> 00:29:58,934 And that's how Aaron felt. 464 00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:03,867 The talks of the restraining order 465 00:30:03,867 --> 00:30:06,967 been around for a while. 466 00:30:06,967 --> 00:30:09,000 It had to do nothing with her. 467 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,266 It had everything to do 468 00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:12,467 with, literally, getting Aaron help 469 00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:13,934 and getting the guns away. 470 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:16,967 [reporter] The claims of increased bizarre behavior 471 00:30:17,033 --> 00:30:18,533 has his family worried. 472 00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,567 [reporter] Nick says that he still loves Aaron, 473 00:30:23,567 --> 00:30:25,767 and he hopes he gets the proper treatment he needs. 474 00:30:27,767 --> 00:30:34,667 In my experience, that family has always been in and out of these, 475 00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:38,533 these, these epic feuds with, with one another. 476 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:44,567 But I had felt inside that Aaron 477 00:30:44,567 --> 00:30:47,333 was being genuine in his support. 478 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,066 Aaron was on Instagram live quite a bit 479 00:30:53,967 --> 00:30:56,367 and he had reached out and just said, 480 00:30:56,367 --> 00:30:57,567 "You know, like, I really want to, like, 481 00:30:57,567 --> 00:30:59,467 publicly support you. 482 00:30:59,467 --> 00:31:02,367 Give you a platform to speak on this." 483 00:31:02,433 --> 00:31:05,867 Everybody, Ashley, unfortunately, when she was 15 484 00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:07,233 was raped by my brother 485 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,767 in the Florida Keys and... 486 00:31:10,767 --> 00:31:13,166 This was... this was huge. 487 00:31:13,233 --> 00:31:14,266 I am here for you 488 00:31:14,266 --> 00:31:15,667 and I have got these women's back 489 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,266 and any women who have been abused or hurt, 490 00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:19,567 I am here to fight for you, 491 00:31:19,634 --> 00:31:21,667 and I will [bleep] fight for you and I will win. 492 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:25,066 [Ashley] It meant a lot to me and I was appreciative. 493 00:31:26,066 --> 00:31:29,567 But at the same time, I also I felt bad 494 00:31:29,567 --> 00:31:33,233 because I knew he was about to be attacked. 495 00:31:34,767 --> 00:31:35,767 [Melissa] I told him. I said, 496 00:31:35,767 --> 00:31:39,166 "Aaron, they're going to come after you." 497 00:31:39,567 --> 00:31:40,667 I've been through it. 498 00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:41,667 I've seen it. 499 00:31:41,734 --> 00:31:43,033 I've experienced it. 500 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,166 But nobody can prepare anybody, 501 00:31:46,233 --> 00:31:50,634 even Aaron Carter, for what followed. 502 00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:53,066 [Aaron] I stand up for women, 503 00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:55,000 and then all of a sudden this starts happening, 504 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,333 and every time I talk about it, more and more. 505 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,567 Wait, you're Nick Carter's brother 506 00:31:59,567 --> 00:32:00,867 from the Backstreet Boys? 507 00:32:01,467 --> 00:32:04,967 People were in his live streams, 508 00:32:04,967 --> 00:32:06,266 in his chats saying things 509 00:32:06,266 --> 00:32:10,567 to purposely upset him or to get him to lash out. 510 00:32:10,567 --> 00:32:13,066 It got worse and worse and worse as time went on. 511 00:32:13,066 --> 00:32:14,934 Labeled me a pedophile and put me in prison. 512 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,166 [bleep] are you talking about? 513 00:32:17,767 --> 00:32:19,066 That's rude. 514 00:32:19,066 --> 00:32:20,467 Come on, show your face. 515 00:32:20,467 --> 00:32:23,767 Are you hiding like a troll under a bridge? 516 00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:26,867 I'm basically, like, defending myself, 517 00:32:26,867 --> 00:32:29,333 and it's, like, putting myself in danger. 518 00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:32,367 "Aaron Charles Carter, your time is coming." 519 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,467 I was worried about him as someone 520 00:32:36,467 --> 00:32:40,266 who saw him coming up when he was very young, 521 00:32:40,266 --> 00:32:42,567 and all of a sudden he's doing appearances 522 00:32:42,567 --> 00:32:44,567 and he's got face tattoos. 523 00:32:44,567 --> 00:32:46,266 -You've got some new ink on your face... -Yeah. 524 00:32:46,266 --> 00:32:48,667 -And your neck. -Medusa is my protector. 525 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:52,266 If you want to come at me with some negativity, 526 00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:55,333 my Medusa will stare you in the eye and turn you into stone. 527 00:32:56,867 --> 00:33:00,967 Aaron was a young man in distress. 528 00:33:01,033 --> 00:33:04,867 It was obvious that he was really hurting. 529 00:33:04,867 --> 00:33:07,266 You guys can thank all the smear campaign people. 530 00:33:07,266 --> 00:33:08,166 Congratulations. 531 00:33:08,233 --> 00:33:09,467 You guys won. 532 00:33:09,467 --> 00:33:13,867 And watching Aaron, he was completely unpredictable at times. 533 00:33:13,934 --> 00:33:15,867 He had told Melissa he would never take back 534 00:33:15,867 --> 00:33:19,333 anything he said about her or Ashley, 535 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,033 but within three or four months, 536 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,166 guess what happens? 537 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,333 Do you want to say hi to Aaron Carter? 538 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:30,834 Good morning. 539 00:33:32,567 --> 00:33:37,166 Molly Golightly, who, literally, after years 540 00:33:37,233 --> 00:33:42,166 of harassing my daughter, somehow, magically appears 541 00:33:42,667 --> 00:33:44,066 in Aaron's life 542 00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:47,367 and purports to be his life coach. 543 00:33:49,266 --> 00:33:50,567 [indistinct conversation] 544 00:33:51,266 --> 00:33:54,767 Melissa Schuman, in my opinion, 545 00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:58,533 based upon after bringing her into the black web, 546 00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:00,834 was never raped. 547 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000 When Aaron started interacting 548 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,166 publicly with Molly Golightly 549 00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:14,533 and he was recanting his support of me, 550 00:34:15,266 --> 00:34:16,266 I wasn't mad. 551 00:34:18,266 --> 00:34:20,867 Aaron was the biggest target at this point. 552 00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:25,967 I think Aaron thought it would stop the harassment 553 00:34:26,033 --> 00:34:27,467 if he just did this. 554 00:34:27,467 --> 00:34:31,000 The validity behind what she has been doing 555 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,867 is not valid. There is none. 556 00:34:32,867 --> 00:34:34,066 But to be very honest, 557 00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:35,967 that harassment really didn't go away. 558 00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:37,667 Like, everyone's so mean to me. 559 00:34:37,667 --> 00:34:41,166 And now that I'm fighting back, here they come. 560 00:34:42,467 --> 00:34:45,567 [Jerry] But this alliance between Melissa and Aaron 561 00:34:45,634 --> 00:34:48,367 openly communicating, were shut off. 562 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:53,767 Aaron had very thin skin. 563 00:34:54,567 --> 00:34:56,533 And I think Aaron was super lonely. 564 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,367 The people on the Internet, 565 00:34:58,367 --> 00:34:59,667 though they were unkind to him, 566 00:34:59,734 --> 00:35:00,600 they were company. 567 00:35:09,667 --> 00:35:11,100 [Melanie] My name is Melanie Martin 568 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,266 and I was Aaron Carter's fiancée. 569 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,100 You are beautiful. 570 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,166 You are gorgeous. 571 00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:18,266 You are smart. 572 00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:23,734 [Melanie] Aaron and I met on Instagram in late 2019. 573 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,133 He was just so genuine, silly, passionate and fun. 574 00:35:30,967 --> 00:35:32,467 When I first met him, 575 00:35:32,467 --> 00:35:35,767 he was taking his medication normally. 576 00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:38,734 [scatting] 577 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,333 But I noticed a change fairly early. 578 00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,467 [Gwen Cataranzo] Unfortunately, with addiction, 579 00:35:48,467 --> 00:35:51,834 it's an illness that... it's very hard to beat. 580 00:35:53,767 --> 00:35:57,567 And Aaron and Melanie had a turbulent relationship, 581 00:35:57,567 --> 00:35:59,233 as he did with most people. 582 00:36:01,567 --> 00:36:02,467 [Melanie] He was, you know, 583 00:36:02,467 --> 00:36:05,367 in a constant battle with his family, 584 00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:07,266 and he kind of didn't 585 00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,066 really explain that to me when I first met him. 586 00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,533 And I didn't pay attention as much as I should have. 587 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,066 I just kept on thinking, "We can do this. 588 00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:18,667 We love each other enough." 589 00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:21,333 [Aaron] All right, so there's the little 12-week-old. 590 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,667 [Melanie] And then my pregnancy happened. 591 00:36:26,734 --> 00:36:27,567 [Aaron] Mmm-hmm. 592 00:36:28,367 --> 00:36:30,667 [Mark] He would call me periodically, 593 00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:33,667 and he was so excited about this child. 594 00:36:33,734 --> 00:36:34,533 And said, you know, 595 00:36:34,533 --> 00:36:36,033 "Hey, I'm gonna get my life straight. 596 00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:39,066 I want to be a good dad. 597 00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:40,767 And I'm gonna change everything." 598 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,867 Unfortunately, it just got really stressful. 599 00:36:47,967 --> 00:36:51,166 He was more invested in the Internet 600 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,066 versus our relationship. 601 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,567 You got a lot of negativity 602 00:36:56,567 --> 00:36:58,767 from going live and social media. 603 00:36:58,767 --> 00:37:00,166 You're just constantly lying 604 00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:01,367 and manipulating and all of that, 605 00:37:01,367 --> 00:37:03,867 and it kind of makes you a bad person. 606 00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:06,834 The bullying that he endured was horrific. 607 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,166 [Melanie] People calling his concerts and canceling his events. 608 00:37:21,667 --> 00:37:24,266 YouTubers were calling in restaurants, 609 00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:26,834 trying to get us taken out of the restaurant. 610 00:37:39,266 --> 00:37:41,333 [Melanie] He was so bothered by it 611 00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:45,166 that he was spending all of his money 612 00:37:45,166 --> 00:37:46,934 on private investigators. 613 00:37:51,367 --> 00:37:55,533 I am a 24-year state licensed private detective. 614 00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:59,567 I was hired by Aaron Carter. 615 00:37:59,634 --> 00:38:05,166 He told me that he was the victim of harassment. 616 00:38:05,166 --> 00:38:07,467 Somebody shot and killed a [bleep] dead bird 617 00:38:07,467 --> 00:38:09,166 and threw it on my porch. 618 00:38:09,166 --> 00:38:13,667 And he wanted some help getting it to stop. 619 00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:18,567 It appears a lot of this stuff was from a YouTube streamer 620 00:38:18,634 --> 00:38:20,767 that goes by the name of "Ganval." 621 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,233 Don't be a bitch, Aaron. 622 00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,867 [Jennifer] Ganval calls himself 623 00:38:28,867 --> 00:38:30,567 Aaron Carter's arch nemesis. 624 00:38:30,567 --> 00:38:34,000 A [bleep] washed up duster. Don't you have a... 625 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,033 [Jennifer] Almost every single video that was on his channel 626 00:38:37,266 --> 00:38:39,233 was Aaron. 627 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,834 If you go to his Twitter, 628 00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:46,166 a lot of the posts are directed towards Aaron. 629 00:38:47,767 --> 00:38:51,233 Ganval has a Discord server. 630 00:38:51,867 --> 00:38:53,667 One of the main subjects 631 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:57,767 that they talk about is Aaron Carter. 632 00:38:57,767 --> 00:39:01,233 Troll the [bleep] out of this scum piece of [bleep]. 633 00:39:02,467 --> 00:39:03,967 Aaron, you're pathetic. 634 00:39:03,967 --> 00:39:07,266 And he sounds like a [bleep] schizophrenic lunatic. 635 00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,000 I understand that you're mentally, like, delusional 636 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,467 but are you [bleep]? 637 00:39:12,467 --> 00:39:14,967 I said the baby should be euthanized. 638 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,767 Aaron is live streaming and Aaron sees everything. 639 00:39:19,767 --> 00:39:22,467 You just threatened me with physical violence. 640 00:39:22,533 --> 00:39:24,367 [indistinct conversation] 641 00:39:24,367 --> 00:39:26,967 [Jennifer] It was like psychological warfare. 642 00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:30,467 [indistinct overlapping conversations] 643 00:39:30,467 --> 00:39:32,266 [Aaron] They're gonna kill me. 644 00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:36,033 [Jennifer] And Aaron believed that his family was behind it. 645 00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:40,166 My brother. Clearly, he's doing it. 646 00:39:40,233 --> 00:39:42,767 Lauren Kitt. Clearly, she's doing it. 647 00:39:42,767 --> 00:39:46,533 It only started when I [bleep] became a voice for rape victims. 648 00:39:47,266 --> 00:39:48,634 For people who got raped. 649 00:39:52,767 --> 00:39:55,266 [Jennifer] And then, I found out that there was 650 00:39:55,266 --> 00:40:00,066 footage of Ganval doing a live stream 651 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,333 with Lauren Kitt Carter. 652 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,467 Nick Carter's wife. 653 00:40:04,467 --> 00:40:07,567 -Hey. -It's nice to finally meet you. 654 00:40:07,567 --> 00:40:09,667 I've been with my husband now for 12 years, 655 00:40:09,667 --> 00:40:13,166 and this is something I've dealt with for 12 years. 656 00:40:13,166 --> 00:40:15,266 [Jennifer] Why would his sister in-law 657 00:40:15,333 --> 00:40:18,667 be online with an individual that spends his days 658 00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:21,100 trying to troll and harass Aaron? 659 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,667 It didn't make sense. 660 00:40:22,734 --> 00:40:24,567 I don't know my brother-in-law anymore. 661 00:40:24,567 --> 00:40:27,767 My husband and his sister and our family don't know-- 662 00:40:27,767 --> 00:40:29,567 Are you trying to say I caused... 663 00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:32,166 [Jennifer] But unfortunately, there was more. 664 00:40:32,166 --> 00:40:33,567 You guys aren't gonna believe me, 665 00:40:33,567 --> 00:40:34,467 and I'll show you if you want. 666 00:40:34,467 --> 00:40:35,467 But this is real. 667 00:40:37,467 --> 00:40:40,667 [Jennifer] There's actual live footage of Ganval 668 00:40:40,667 --> 00:40:44,934 when he received a donation made by Lauren Kitt Carter. 669 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,867 After I found out that there was donated money, 670 00:40:49,934 --> 00:40:53,066 now I believe they did want to silence Aaron. 671 00:40:54,567 --> 00:40:55,667 Now do you believe me? 672 00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:58,166 Now? Now? Now do you believe me?