1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,320 Everything's fine, Els, I promise. Please don't worry. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 My feeling is that we both need a bit of time apart. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Who is she? It didn't mean anything. It's over. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,800 The bullet passed through the left lung, exiting here. 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,960 If we find the bullet that killed her, 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,960 NABIS could even link us to a known offender. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Key information should really come to me first. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,960 When you're in the office, I'll make sure they bring you stuff first. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,320 I've decided I wanted shared custody now. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,960 I'm not thinking I should have a termination. 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,160 Does that completely horrify you? 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Taking advantage of a woman's inability to say "no" 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,960 because she's too drunk is not bloody funny. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,960 I'm arresting you on suspicion of robbery and GBH. 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,960 What are you talking about?! 16 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,320 I am sorry. 17 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,640 So I'm giving you one last chance. 18 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,960 Our victim is also our thief. 19 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,960 Her name is Precious Falade. We're looking for a next of kin. 20 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,960 That would be her son or her mother. 21 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 We found a body in a house in Hammersmith, 22 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,960 and we believe that it's your daughter. 23 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,960 No! 24 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,960 You don't recall ever visiting her there? No. 25 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,960 It told us what we needed. Which is what? 26 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,480 That she was lying. 27 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,960 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder 28 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:13,960 29 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,960 All we do is hide away 30 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:22,480 31 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:26,960 All we do is lie in wait 32 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:30,640 33 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,960 The right way round 34 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,480 On the ground. 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,640 I've told you before, I'm not buying you Coco Hoops. 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,960 But why not? Cos they're not good for you. 37 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:01,960 They are, Mum. Honestly, I promise. 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,960 They're not good for me, then. Right, coats, bags. 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,000 There you are. 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,960 'Sorry, work's been mad.' 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Have you spoken to Mum? Did she tell you what happened? 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Yeah, listen, what time do you finish work? 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Can I come meet you? Yeah, er... maybe six? 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,960 But, look, I can't guarantee anything. 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,160 I'm right in the middle of a... 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,960 'What about that place we went to before we saw Dolly?' 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Er, sure, but.. 'I'm running into a meet.' 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,960 I'll see you at six? Debs... 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,640 Sunny? 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,960 "Bye, then." I... um... 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Miles away. Have a lovely day. 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Erm, we'll talk later tonight, yeah? 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,960 Sure. Er... Erm, sorry. 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 I've got to take this. I'll be back home early. 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,480 OK? Love you. 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,960 Thomas, the plasterboard, what have you got for me? 57 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,960 The loneliness, the inequality, 58 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,960 the hostility at the time I was there. 59 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 It wears you down, man. 60 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,320 And down, and down. 61 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Till you become someone who isn't you. 62 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,960 Someone you don't even like. 63 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,160 But apart from that... 64 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,960 OK, so her friends, her family, any criminal associates. 65 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Where did she live? If she worked, where did she work? 66 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Basically, the more we know about her, 67 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,320 the more chance we have of working out how she died. 68 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,960 So, Murray, let's see if she had a bank account, 69 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:54,960 ditto mobile phone. 70 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,960 I want to know when everything stopped - 71 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,960 her last phone call, last bank transaction. 72 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:02,960 Both could help determine date of death. Ma'am. 73 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Er, any update on the CandC check on the house? 74 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,000 Coming later today, apparently. OK. 75 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Er, so, we have now identified her mother 76 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,960 and had a preliminary chat with her. 77 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Er, Karen, anything on Ebele Falade on PNC? 78 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,960 Yeah. Just a bit. Erm... 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,480 Multiple arrests. 80 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 All apart from one seem to be alcohol-related. 81 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Two DandD convictions, several thefts, several community penalties. 82 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,960 But then, back in 1986, we have an ABH charge 83 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,320 against a doorman of a City stockbrokers' office. 84 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,960 But here's the thing - it involved a firearm. 85 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Any details on it? 86 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Trying to see what we can dig up with the intel team. 87 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,960 And when did the other offences range from? 88 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Early '80s to 2016. 89 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,960 OK. Erm... 90 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,960 So, we also now know that she had a grandson, 91 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,800 erm, Precious's son, Joseph. 92 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,160 Did you get anything more from social services on him, Frances? 93 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Not a lot, Ma'am, erm... 94 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,960 Other than he was born in 1998 in Wales. OK. 95 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Again, quite a criminal record. 96 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Er, we have various theft charges, 97 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,960 lots of drugs - possession and supply - 98 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,960 and then a gang-related battery charge 99 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,960 for which he did six months 100 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 at Prestwythn Young Offenders in 2014. 101 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,640 No current address for him. OK. 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,960 Let's go back to social services 103 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,960 and see if we can find him through them in Wales. 104 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Am I right in thinking that Precious was transferred 105 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,640 to West London Social Services at some point? 106 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,960 October 2015. 107 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,960 OK, well, let's speak to them, see what they can give us. 108 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Again, check in with PNC and link in with intel. 109 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,960 There's obviously a common thread growing of drink and violence 110 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,640 which may be germane to Precious's death. 111 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,480 Mm-hm. OK. Any more for any more? 112 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Just one more thing, Ma'am. 113 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,320 I did actually test the rest of the plasterboard... 114 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 ..and, erm, it is all from the '60s. 115 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,960 There's no modern bit. Right. 116 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,960 So... how does that work, then, given that we now know 117 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,960 that our victim is from 2016 at the earliest? 118 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Well, the tech lab thinks it's been reused 119 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,960 because... 120 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Sorry. Hang on. 121 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Carry on. 122 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,960 Because they've used patches - 123 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960 bits of, er, scrunched-up newspaper 124 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,960 that were used to fill in the bits that must have come off, 125 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,960 when it was taken down from wherever it was originally. 126 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Why would you reuse plasterboard, though? Costs nothing. 127 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Maybe if you were completely skint? 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,960 Maybe if you don't want any trace that you ever bought it? 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,640 I guess. 130 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,960 The more interesting thing, though, 131 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,800 is that the newspaper has a date on it. 132 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Which means that if it was patched up when it went up, 133 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:56,960 then the chimney breast was covered on the 12th of July 2016. 134 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,960 OK, like that. 135 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Thanks, everyone. 136 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Oh, yeah, just one thing. 137 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Can we lose the "Ma'am", everyone? 138 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Just... "Guv" is fine. 139 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,480 "Guv" it is. 140 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,960 DI Khan. Sunny, it's Morten at the lab. 141 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,320 We've found blood. 142 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:43,960 'Lots of blood.' 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,960 Showing the suspect exhibit DS1. 144 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,960 It's a debit card in the name of Sophie Coulson, 145 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,960 found in the kitchen of the suspect. 146 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,960 Do you recognise that? No comment. 147 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Well, it's not yours, is it? No comment. 148 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,960 So, how did this lady's card get there, in your kitchen? 149 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,960 No comment. Did you find it in the bag you stole from her? 150 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,960 No comment. 151 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,320 How else could it have got there, then? No comment. 152 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,960 OK. Er, now showing the suspect exhibit DS2. 153 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,960 This is CCTV footage 154 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 of the convenience store Treasure Corner. 155 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,960 Now... I think that's you there, fella. 156 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,960 No comment. 157 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Because you've got a tattoo on your hand 158 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,960 exactly just like this one here, haven't you? No comment. 159 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,800 I can see it on your hand, right in front of me now. 160 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,960 No comment. 161 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,960 This is you, isn't it? 162 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Using her card, stolen ten minutes before, 163 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,160 half a mile away. Yeah? No comment. 164 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,160 You find this boring? 165 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,960 No comment. I wonder if you'd find it boring 166 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,960 if I told you that the woman you mugged 167 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,960 was four months pregnant and very nearly lost her baby. 168 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,960 Is that boring? 169 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,960 Can I have a cup of tea, man? Fuckin' parched. 170 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Oh... 171 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,960 Oh... 172 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,960 The things they do to us. 173 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,960 The way they treat us. 174 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,960 How do they get away with it? Just... 175 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,000 How are they allowed to keep doing this? 176 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,960 "They"? 177 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,960 Who did you mean, "they"? 178 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Do you mind? 179 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,960 This is a private moment with my dead daughter. 180 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,960 Can you... please leave? 181 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Who did you mean? 182 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,960 Who do you think? Hm? 183 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Men. 184 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,960 Cos that's who it'll be. A man. 185 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,960 It's always a man, isn't it? 186 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,960 I'll wait outside. 187 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,960 So, the CPS are happy to charge. 188 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,960 If you're cool, we'll get that done, and then we put him before the court 189 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,960 in the morning for a remand application. 190 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,960 And what about bail? He's not gonna get bail, Keith. 191 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,960 Why? Why d'you think? 192 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,960 His record, the crime, his total lack of any remorse. 193 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,960 He actually is remorseful. He just struggles to show it. 194 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,960 Yeah, well, maybe he can take some acting classes inside, then. 195 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Funny 196 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,320 Look, I know you're only doing your job, but, really? 197 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,160 You wanna fight for a bloke like that? 198 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,960 And I know you're only doing your job, but, yeah, I do, Phil. 199 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,800 You have literally zero idea of his story. 200 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Yeah, well, I don't care about his story. 201 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,960 I care about the woman who nearly lost her child because of him. 202 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 But, hey, go for it, mate. 203 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Apply for bail, and we'll turn it down. 204 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,800 So, 13, 14, 15 and 16, which were here to here. 205 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,480 Is this the amount of pooling you'd expect from a gunshot wound? 206 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,960 Under a prone body, yes. 207 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,960 We also found evidence of smearing between here and the fireplace. 208 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,160 Had anyone made any attempt to clean it up? 209 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,960 Think so, yes. 210 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Because we found traces of cleaning materials, 211 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,160 but the blood had soaked deep into the wood, 212 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,960 so whoever tried to get rid of it, 213 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,000 they just wiped away the surface blood. 214 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,960 Can we test for DNA? Have we got enough material? 215 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,960 Absolutely. We're doing comparison tests with the victim right now. 216 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,960 Apologies. No worries. 217 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,960 Guv. 218 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Ebele Falade has agreed to come in for a chat. 219 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,960 OK, wow, so soon. 220 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,960 You couldn't get enough of her yesterday. 221 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,960 'We'll be back at the nick in about 20, 222 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,800 'if you care to join me.' 223 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,320 20%? Yes. 224 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,960 Babe, we were struggling to find a 10% deposit. 225 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,960 I know, but... if we want a baby, we'll need a bigger place, won't we? 226 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,960 So... we'll just need to tighten our belts, won't we? 227 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,320 So, you must think it very strange, my turning up like this. 228 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,960 And, er, in many ways, 229 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,960 I'm not entirely sure why I knocked on your door. 230 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,960 But I just, erm... 231 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,160 I played a game of table tennis with your son a few days ago. 232 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Er, I saw something in him, a... 233 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 ..certain fire in his belly. 234 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Reminded me of myself when I was his age. 235 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Er, and, er, I-I know that life is tough around here, and... 236 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,960 I guess, I just wanted to ask 237 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,960 if there was anything I could do for you, Alaya? 238 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,960 A-And Mus. Your family. 239 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Financially, or in any other way. 240 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,960 I studied economics, Lord Hume, back in Mogadishu. 241 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,320 So I knew who you were even before Mustafa talked about you. 242 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,960 And I am grateful for your kind offer, genuinely. 243 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Mm. 244 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,800 But your money's not what we need. I mean, it might help us... 245 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,960 ..but what about our community, 246 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,960 our schools, our hospitals, our social care? 247 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,960 In fact, all the things your party de-funded for so many years. 248 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Who sorts those out? 249 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,960 So I am sorry... 250 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,480 ..but I suspect money from you 251 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,960 would really be more for your benefit than ours. 252 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,800 So, we're just trying to get as much information as possible 253 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,960 about your daughter, 254 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960 about the sort of life that she lived... 255 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,640 at the time we think she might have died. 256 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,960 Do you know yet when she did die? 257 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,800 We're now pretty sure it was between 258 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,960 the 4th of June and the 12th of July, 2016. 259 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Here. 260 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,480 OK, so, yesterday, when we spoke, you seemed a little uncertain 261 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 about when it was that you last saw Precious. 262 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 You thought possibly in 2014 or '15? 263 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,960 It was actually January 2016. 264 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,320 It was her birthday, the 15th. I, er, checked an old diary. 265 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,960 And, er, she'd gone back down from Wales 266 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,960 and was living in emergency accommodation in Shepherd's Bush. 267 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,960 OK, so she was homeless? 268 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Yes. She never lived with you? 269 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,960 Hm... She had at various points in the past, 270 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,960 but it was too difficult, with her... issues. 271 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,960 And the last time that you saw her, her son was with her at that point? 272 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,960 No, he'd stayed up in Wales. OK. 273 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,960 And, er, did you ever visit her there? 274 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,800 Once, many years ago. 275 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,960 OK, why just once? 276 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Because of them. 277 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,960 "Them"? Yeah. 278 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 The cult. 279 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,960 "The cult"? 280 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,960 When she was 15, she was abducted by a cult. 281 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,960 They recruited members in London, 282 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,000 and they found her bunking off school 283 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,640 in a park in Ealing. 284 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,960 And, yeah, they just brainwashed her. 285 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Which cult was this? 286 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,960 The Family Of Blessed Light, they called themselves. 287 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,960 Did you ever report this to the police? 288 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,160 No. She said she wanted to go with them. 289 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Sorry, you... you said she was "abducted". 290 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Right, well, that's what she said... 291 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 ..a decade later when it was suddenly all my fault. 292 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 But, at the time, she said she wanted to go. 293 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,960 When she was 15? 294 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,640 She was a very strong-willed young woman, 295 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,960 very difficult to control, 296 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,960 endlessly suspended and expelled from many schools. 297 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,960 In the end, I thought it might actually be good for her. 298 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Hard work in a remote farm, out of London. 299 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,960 So, this was when... when she first moved to Wales? 300 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,960 Mm. And I should also say 301 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,800 that she was pregnant at this point. 302 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,160 Er... By who? 303 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,320 She didn't say specifically, 304 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,960 but I think it was by him, the leader... 305 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:27,960 David Bell. 306 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,960 He... was 42 when he met Precious. 307 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,960 And how long did she live in Wales for? 308 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,960 On and off for about ten or 15 years. 309 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960 She'd sporadically get tired of it 310 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,960 and move back to London for a year or two, and... 311 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,960 be unable to find work, or a place to live, erm... 312 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,960 So she'd steal or do escort work. 313 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,960 And when that failed, she'd move back. 314 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,160 And the cycle was repeated many times. 315 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,960 And she returned to Wales voluntarily? 316 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,960 How do you mean? 317 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,160 No-one came looking for her, the boy's father? 318 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Not that I specifically saw, but he'd call her a lot, 319 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,320 and she was scared of him, definitely. 320 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,960 So he may well have come down on occasion. 321 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,960 Year after year, I... 322 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,960 ..I tried to help her. 323 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,960 And at a time when I had my own challenges with alcohol. 324 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 All long since sorted. 325 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,960 But eventually, you have to take care of yourself. 326 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Help yourself, don't you? 327 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,960 So I, erm... 328 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,960 ..I cut-cut her off. 329 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,960 So, you cut her off after that last meeting? 330 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Yeah. 331 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,960 And that would have been on her birthday? 332 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,960 Yes. 333 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Was she using at this time? 334 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,640 Yes. Just meth? 335 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Not sure. 336 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,960 Did you know any of her dealers? No. 337 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,800 And how did her son fit into... into that life? 338 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,960 Well, he didn't, really. 339 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,960 From what I understood from her, 340 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,960 he was raised between the cult and care. 341 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,800 And did you ever help her with him? 342 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,960 No. 343 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,320 OK. One last question. Er... 344 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,960 Can I ask you about your 1986 firearms charge? 345 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,960 I'm sure it's all in your files. 346 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,960 So unless you're gonna arrest me, I think I've answered enough. 347 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Precious had multiple issues. 348 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,320 Drink and drugs, obviously, but her primary issue was her FASD. 349 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,960 Foetal alcohol spectrum disorder. 350 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Oh, OK. We didn't know about that. 351 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Huge part of her life. 352 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Arguably the cause of most of her problems. 353 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Learning difficulties, problems sustaining relationships, 354 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,960 self-medication, the fractured relationship 355 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,960 with her mother, obviously. I mean, the list goes on. 356 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Yeah, her mother didn't mention any of this to us when we spoke to her. 357 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,960 From what I understood, the mother refused to accept the diagnosis. 358 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,160 Oh, OK. 359 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,960 And what was her general relationship with her mother like? 360 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Terrible. They fought all the time. 361 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,160 Ah. Precious carried huge anger towards her, 362 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960 which, oddly, her mother reciprocated. 363 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,960 What was the mother angry about? 364 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,960 The accusation, I guess. 365 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Er, in my professional experience, 366 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,960 I'd say it was displacement for her own guilt. 367 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,960 At what she'd done to her child? Yeah. 368 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,640 D'you know if they ever fought physically? 369 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,960 All the time. 370 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,960 Would you say there was, like, one aggressor, or was it both or...? 371 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,800 I never had any experience of Precious being violent. 372 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,960 Again, from what she told me, 373 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,960 the aggression came entirely from Ebele. 374 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,960 So, what did you think? 375 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 I think she really didn't want to discuss her firearms offence, 376 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,960 and I think I wanna know more about the grandson and this cult. 377 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,960 Well... 378 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,000 ..if you want to grab a coffee, we can kick around some... 379 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,960 Did the CandC on the house come back? I'll check again now. 380 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,800 What about the phone and bank records? 381 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Just made the application. Waiting for them to come through. 382 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Where is everyone? Where's DC Willets? 383 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,800 Still trying to identify the relative 384 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,960 who did the security work so had keys to the house. 385 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960 And Lingley? Chasing stuff down, Guv. 386 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Do you guys always work at this pace? 387 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,960 This is fucking glacial. 388 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,960 It takes as long as it takes, Ma'am. 389 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,800 Guv! How many times? Jesus! 390 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960 Sorry about that. Not a problem. 391 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,640 Apparently, Precious Falade was a member of a cult in Wales 392 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960 called The Family Of Blessed Light. 393 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800 See what you can find out about them, please. 394 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,960 On it. 395 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Just need to get a couple of signatures from you, please. 396 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,960 Is that Friesz? It is. 397 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,960 Do you like him? I like Dufy more. Or Derain. 398 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,960 But Friesz is gully, still. Right. 399 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960 Who got you into the Fauvists? My dad. 400 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,640 D'you know what it means - "fauvist"? 401 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,960 Erm... "beast" or something, isn't it? 402 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,960 "Wild beast". 403 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Yeah, I wonder why he thought I'd like 'em. 404 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Listen, man, my girlfriend needs help, 405 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 with her habit and shit. 406 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,800 Is there any chance you could call my social worker 407 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,960 and ask him to visit her? 408 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,480 Your carriage awaits, sir. 409 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,000 I'll see what I can do. Ta. 410 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Her last team loved her. Good for them. 411 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960 And her references are all exceptional. 412 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Did you check the name at the top? It's not even been a week. 413 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,960 Each day is worse than the last. 414 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960 She's rude, she's permanently distracted. 415 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Unpleasant to my team. Your team? 416 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,480 I didn't want to ease her in. I did it as a favour to you. 417 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,960 After you turned the job down. 418 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,160 But these fast-track uni kids... She's 39. 419 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960 ..they just don't have the hours on the clock, Sir. 420 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,960 And when that inexperience impacts on my ability to do the job... 421 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,960 Just give it a bit more... 422 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,960 So I honestly think that Fran should step up. 423 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,960 She's more than capable. 424 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,960 You need to know that, right now, 425 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,960 this really isn't fucking working for me, Sir. 426 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,960 I looked after her from October to Feb, 427 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,960 then I went on maternity leave till early June. 428 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,960 And when I came back, my cover and I shared responsibility for her 429 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,960 till I was back up to speed. 430 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,960 OK, what was the name of your cover, please? 431 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,960 That was Karol Wojski. 432 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,320 Carol... No, Karol with a K, 433 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,960 and it's, er, W-O-J-S-K-I. 434 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,960 Is Karol still here? No, he left. 435 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,320 And when was that? Mid-2016. 436 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,960 So, he moved to another department or...? 437 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,960 No, he left social work completely, I believe. 438 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,000 OK. Does it happen a lot? 439 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Pretty stressful job, 440 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,480 huge responsibilities, zero resources. 441 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Thank you, Government. Yeah, join the club. 442 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,960 And so this is the last appointment anyone had with Precious? 443 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Correct, yeah. So 26th of June? 444 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Yeah. And the address given there 445 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,800 as her new home address is Waterman Road. 446 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Yeah. OK. And Karol took this appointment? 447 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,960 Yeah. And he details seeing her at the house. 448 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,960 Yes. And these are the brief notes from that meeting. 449 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,000 Erm, these would normally have been written up in detail. OK. 450 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960 "Son wants her to go back to sex work. 451 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,160 "I will investigate rehab, Precious is keen. 452 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,000 "Mother assaulted her again." Wow. 453 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960 So, why weren't these notes written up properly? 454 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,960 Karol resigned the next day. 455 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,800 Be good to get contact details for Karol if you can, please. Sure. 456 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,960 You keep skirting around things, 457 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,960 but, really, why don't you just say it? 458 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Say what? That you don't want a child with me. 459 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Because it's not true. 460 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960 So why do you keep mentioning money and priorities 461 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,960 and making me feel shit about it all? 462 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480 I'm really not trying to make you feel shit. 463 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,960 I'm just trying to articulate 464 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,960 some of the very real, practical difficulties facing us. 465 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960 But, please, if you can see a simpler solution... 466 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,960 I'll work more hours. 467 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960 You already work too many, as I am. 468 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,960 Between us, we do five fucking jobs, for Christ sakes. 469 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,960 I mean... 470 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,960 ..I don't want it to be like this any more than you do, 471 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960 but given he is now going to make me spend money on a lawyer, 472 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960 that really does have to be my priority. 473 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,960 You see that, don't you? 474 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,960 And I don't need to have a baby with you to prove to myself, 475 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960 or, I hope, to you, how much I love you. 476 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,960 And what I need... 477 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,960 does that count for anything? 478 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Of course it does. 479 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,960 I know it's incredibly important to you... 480 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,960 ..but, "I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier answer." 481 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960 You think this is funny? No. 482 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,960 Because this isn't a joke to me, Lise. I know! 483 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,960 You'd two kids with that baboon and not one with me. Please. 484 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,960 I mean, am I not good enough? 485 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Is that what this is? The Untermensch? 486 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960 I cannot believe you just said that. 487 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,320 And if she did do it deliberately... She didn't do it deliberately. 488 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Why didn't I see it? Why didn't I do more to help her? 489 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Cass's death was not your fault, Sunny. 490 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,960 It was just life. 491 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Random, cruel, life. 492 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Do you talk to Sal about this? 493 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,960 No. 494 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960 D'you think maybe you should, or someone? 495 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640 She finds it hard enough as it is. 496 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 I know she thinks I should have gotten over it by now. 497 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 I know everyone does. I don't. 498 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,480 I think about her too. 499 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480 All the time. It still absolutely winds me. 500 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,320 So if you don't want to see someone about it... talk to me. 501 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,640 I'll always listen. I'm always here. 502 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960 'OK, so you need...' 503 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,960 It should be on the authorisation request, just the name and address. 504 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,000 'Yeah, I've got it. 505 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960 'What's the number?' OK, yeah, so it's... 506 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 zero, seven, seven, zero, zero. 507 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960 'Yep.' Nine, zero, zero... 508 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960 Guv. 'Sunny, hi.' 509 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,960 Erm, listen, first up, I'm sorry if I snapped earlier. 510 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,480 It was... It was uncalled for. 511 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800 Yep. 512 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,960 So, erm, I just had a very interesting conversation 513 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,960 with Frances about Precious's social worker. 514 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,960 How would you feel about a trip to Paris, 515 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,480 where he lives, to speak to him? 516 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Can't we just Zoom him? 517 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,960 We could, yeah, but as of now, 518 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000 he's the last person to have seen her alive. 519 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,960 And the day after he did, he resigned. 520 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960 And two weeks after that, he left the country. 521 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160 'I think you'd wanna see the whites of his eyes.' 522 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960 Sure. Why not? 523 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Great, thanks. 524 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Guv. Yeah? 525 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Erm, so the relative who used to pop round 526 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,960 and check up on her, and the "LA" in the lawyer's notes, 527 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,960 that's Lord Anthony. 528 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,960 As in Hume. Tony Hume? 529 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,640 Yeah. The Tory guy? Mm-hm. 530 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,960 Man... 531 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,960 My local library was shut down cos of that twat. 532 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960 Yep, well, it turns out that his wife 533 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,960 is the late owner's younger sister. 534 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960 And he had keys to the property? 535 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,640 He's the one who changed all the locks. 536 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,960 OK. 537 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,480 And what could possibly connect the Tory Lord and the sex worker? 538 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,960 OK, get digging on him. Sure. 539 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Actually, could you find me his address and text it to me? 540 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,000 Yeah, no problem. Thanks. 541 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800 'Hi, this is Debbie, please leave a message.' 542 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,320 Hi, Debs. Look, erm, it's me. 543 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,480 I'm really sorry, I'm gonna have to bail tonight. 544 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,960 I'll talk to you soon. 545 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Hello, love. 546 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,960 Where are you? 'Yeah, sorry, I was gonna call you.' 547 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,960 I'm actually on the Eurostar. I've, erm... 548 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960 gotta speak to a possible suspect in Paris. 549 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,960 I'm back tomorrow, though. 550 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,960 I... I think I'm miscarrying. 551 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,960 Oh, God. Oh, no. 552 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,160 'So sorry, Sal.' I'm heading to my mum's. 553 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,960 D'you need to go to hospital? Shall I come back? 554 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960 I can come straight back if you want me to. 555 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Hello, Sal? 556 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960 Sal? 557 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Kaz? 558 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Yeah? 559 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,160 I was looking for Cheryl, Jay's girlfriend? 560 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,640 What about her? 561 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,960 Does she live here? Who wants to know? 562 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,320 I'm Jay's brief. 563 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960 He was worried about her being on her own. 564 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,960 Tell him she's fine. I'm looking after her now. 565 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,960 Tell him she's fine. 566 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960 I think he's in his study. 567 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,960 Would you like me to...? Oh, hello, darling. 568 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960 This lady is a detective. 569 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,800 She wants to talk to you about my sister's old house. 570 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,960 Hello, Tony Hume. I'm sorry to disturb you so late. 571 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,480 Not at all. Hazel's house, did you say? 572 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Yes. I believe you were a key-holder after she died? 573 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,960 Yes, I was. 574 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960 Just need to ask a some questions about that period. 575 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Sounds intriguing. 576 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,000 Well, you can at least grill me in comfort. 577 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,960 Thank you. 578 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,960 How absolutely tragic. Indeed. 579 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960 34's no age. No. 580 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960 And what a way to treat a body. 581 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,960 So, how can I help? 582 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Well, we're trying to narrow down exactly when she died, 583 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,960 and we understand you might have had some access to the house 584 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,640 around May or June 2016? 585 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640 I did. Some squatters had got into the property, 586 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,960 and a neighbour of Hazel's, who knew I used to visit her, 587 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960 rang me at my office. 588 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960 Can you remember roughly when this date was? 589 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,640 Well, I can check my diaries, but, erm... late May, I think. 590 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,960 I have a vague recollection it was during the Whitsun recess. 591 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960 OK. And what happened then? 592 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960 Well, I drove down there the day after the neighbour rang, 593 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,960 on my way here, in fact, and, er... basically just knocked on the door. 594 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,640 And someone answered? 595 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960 They did. I told them who I was, 596 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,800 and that they couldn't be there and, er, 597 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,000 just tried to keep it fairly friendly. 598 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,960 How many were there? Two came to the door, and, er... 599 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,960 when they left, I counted five in total. 600 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000 Men, women? Three men, two women. 601 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,960 And what was their reaction to you? 602 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,960 Oh... Hostile, extremely. 603 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960 They basically told me, in no uncertain terms, to get lost, 604 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,960 and were very threatening. 605 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,960 Physically? Yes. 606 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,800 And you thought they looked capable of violence? 607 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,960 I mean, who knows? But, er... 608 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960 Listen, they looked like addicts to me, 609 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,960 and I've seen enough in my charity sector work. 610 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,800 I know that an addict can be dangerous when they're sick, 611 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,960 so, erm... I was scared. 612 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,480 So, how did you get them out? Money. I offered them 500 quid. 613 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,960 Which they accepted? No. 614 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,960 They wanted a thousand, which is why I had offered them 500. 615 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960 And they accepted that? Yes. 616 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,960 And left immediately? 617 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,960 Within an hour or so. OK. 618 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,960 And could I just ask why you didn't just call the police? 619 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,160 Well, I wasn't sure of our rights, 620 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,640 and, er, I didn't want a long, protracted legal battle. 621 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,960 We were already in the middle of one about the will. 622 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,960 I guessed that money would work, and it did. 623 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,000 So they... they left immediately. 624 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,960 That afternoon, I got a firm of locksmiths in. 625 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,480 The place was Fort Knox by the time they'd done. 626 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,960 And there were no further problems? Not as far as I was aware. 627 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,960 And what was the state of the house when you went in? 628 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960 Disgusting. Damage and filth everywhere. 629 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960 A lot of original features had been removed. 630 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,960 And the place smelt absolutely dreadful. 631 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,960 Oh, Lord. 632 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960 She couldn't have already have been there, could she? 633 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,000 Erm... We're not sure, but, sorry, can I just, erm, go back? 634 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640 What did you do with the new set of keys? 635 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,960 Well, I dropped them round to the solicitors. 636 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960 How soon after? A few days, I think. 637 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,480 Hm. 638 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,960 Oh. Yeah, actually, it was, erm, five weeks later. 639 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960 Any reason for that delay? 640 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,960 No. Just busy, I guess. 641 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Course. 642 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:51,960 And finally, can I just show you a picture of the victim? 643 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,800 Does her face look familiar at all? 644 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,960 No. 645 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160 Didn't see her at the house? 646 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,960 No, not that I recall. 647 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,960 Take a good look. 648 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,480 No, sorry, I don't recognise her. Thank you. 649 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,960 I mean, just to reiterate - for what it's worth - 650 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,320 from my encounter with them, 651 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,640 they did look like very unpleasant people. 652 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,960 Capable of anything. 653 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960 I'll leave you in peace. Mm. 654 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,960 Hello? 'Hi, is that Karen?' 655 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,960 Kaz, yeah. 'It's DCI James.' 656 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960 Oh, good evening, Ma'am. Guv. 657 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,960 Karen, the neighbour you spoke to, 658 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,960 what did they say the squatters were like? 659 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960 'Erm, yeah...' 660 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,320 "Nice", as I remember. 661 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,800 "Gentle, polite". "Sweet". I think that was the word. 662 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,960 "Sweet". 'Mm.' 663 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960 Great. OK, er, thanks, Karen. Night. 664 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,960 Good night, Ma'am. 665 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,160 Guv. 666 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,960 'Welcome to the messaging service.' 667 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,960 'I'm sorry, but the person you have called is not available. 668 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 669 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,960 What did you do? 670 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,160 Call me. 671 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,960 Everything all right? 672 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,960 Do you, er, remember those squatters 673 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000 that, er, I chucked out just after Hazel died? 674 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,960 Yes. One of them must have got back in somehow, and... 675 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960 they think taken an overdose, and then... 676 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,960 ..very sadly, died. 677 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,160 How awful. 678 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,960 Isn't it? 679 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,960 Anyway... I need a drink. You want one? 680 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960 Hello, love. It's me again. 681 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,960 Erm, couldn't get through to you at your mum's. 682 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,960 Erm, call me when you can. I hope you're OK. 683 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,160 Lots of love. 684 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,960 Erm... 685 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,160 Merci. 686 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,960 Yeah? Oui. 687 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,960 'Bele, where are you? 688 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,640 'We've got the VC meeting tomorrow, and-and now I'm really worried. 689 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,960 'Call me.' 690 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,640 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 691 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,960 You don't know me, but I know you. 692 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,960 My mother was Precious Falade, and I was there that night. 693 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,960 I was there. 694 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,960 And I saw it all.