1 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:12,846 -Sir? -I'm sorry. 2 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:15,724 I'm going to have to ask you to speak up a Iittle. I-- 3 00:00:15,807 --> 00:00:17,476 I can't hear you very well . 4 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:19,478 -Okay. No problem. -Yes? 5 00:00:19,561 --> 00:00:21,438 Well , what's your first question? 6 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:23,732 I wanna know more how it started . 7 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:25,359 Well , it. I ... 8 00:00:25,442 --> 00:00:26,818 It started by accident. 9 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:29,696 Well , with an accident, I-- 10 00:00:33,909 --> 00:00:37,246 Yes, I'd been injured once too often playing polo. 11 00:00:39,248 --> 00:00:41,083 Do you understand what I'm saying? 12 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:42,834 Yes, I understand . 13 00:00:42,918 --> 00:00:44,086 Good . Good . 14 00:00:44,836 --> 00:00:49,466 And so, at age 50, I decided to give up the big Iove of my life 15 00:00:49,550 --> 00:00:51,593 and Iook elsewhere for some fun . 16 00:00:52,761 --> 00:00:56,723 No, that didn't come out right. I'm going to insist we do that again . 17 00:00:56,807 --> 00:00:57,849 Excuse me? 18 00:00:58,475 --> 00:00:59,893 We're going to go again . 19 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:03,605 Again ! 20 00:01:05,941 --> 00:01:07,609 -You ready? -Yes. 21 00:01:07,693 --> 00:01:08,694 Yes. 22 00:01:09,361 --> 00:01:14,658 And so, at age 50, I decided to give up the big sporting Iove of my life 23 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:16,952 and Iook for new challenges... 24 00:01:17,035 --> 00:01:18,620 Come on ! Hyah ! 25 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:23,333 ...which is how l ended up carriage driving. 26 00:01:28,255 --> 00:01:29,631 There you go! 27 00:01:30,215 --> 00:01:31,216 Come on ! 28 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:37,681 Come on ! 29 00:01:42,686 --> 00:01:43,937 Hyah ! 30 00:01:49,234 --> 00:01:51,111 We've become quite a gang . 31 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:55,157 Traveling up and down the country from competition to competition . 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,076 It's become something of a second family. 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,036 What? 34 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:06,627 When? 35 00:02:10,881 --> 00:02:12,966 Right. Thank you . 36 00:03:03,517 --> 00:03:04,559 Thank you , Peggy. 37 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:22,911 There's a school of progressive medical thought 38 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:27,749 that suggests we bring cancer upon ourselves 39 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:34,798 as a result of repressed emotion or unresolved psychological trauma. 40 00:03:36,842 --> 00:03:41,179 Then a perfectly angelic five-year-old dies of it, 41 00:03:42,848 --> 00:03:45,892 and you realize what utter rubbish that is. 42 00:03:47,728 --> 00:03:49,020 Poor Norton . 43 00:03:49,646 --> 00:03:50,647 Yes. 44 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:54,359 Why don't you pay him a visit? 45 00:03:55,652 --> 00:03:58,447 He could probably do with some support from his godfather. 46 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:01,575 Yes. 47 00:04:02,492 --> 00:04:03,702 Yes, right. 48 00:04:08,582 --> 00:04:09,875 What's that Iook? 49 00:04:13,545 --> 00:04:16,590 I've never seen so many thoughts go on behind someone's eyes. 50 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:18,759 Gratitude. 51 00:04:19,634 --> 00:04:20,969 Appreciation . 52 00:04:21,553 --> 00:04:22,596 What for? 53 00:04:24,306 --> 00:04:26,349 You make a better person of me. 54 00:04:27,309 --> 00:04:28,685 And you of me. 55 00:04:31,313 --> 00:04:33,148 Isn't that the point of marriage? 56 00:04:43,158 --> 00:04:44,242 Good night. 57 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:53,293 Good night. 58 00:06:21,006 --> 00:06:21,882 Hello? 59 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:24,968 H i . You ... 60 00:06:26,094 --> 00:06:27,178 You are coming? 61 00:06:27,262 --> 00:06:29,723 Sorry, one of those mornings. We're there in ... 62 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:31,182 -One minute. -One minute. 63 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:32,434 One minute. 64 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:37,939 One minute away, and she apologizes. 65 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:40,483 Was that actually her? 66 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:43,153 Yes, that was "actually her." 67 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:11,932 How's the prince? 68 00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:21,358 U p here! 69 00:07:22,108 --> 00:07:23,401 Diana! 70 00:07:25,654 --> 00:07:27,739 -Thanks for agreeing to this. -Of course. 71 00:07:30,075 --> 00:07:32,786 -We saw the pictures of you in Italy. -Diana! 72 00:07:33,328 --> 00:07:35,246 Well , you all Iooked so happy. 73 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:37,457 -If only you knew. -Really? 74 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:40,710 It's honestly worse than ever. I'm at a Ioss for what to do. 75 00:07:41,294 --> 00:07:42,796 Is that your work? 76 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:44,047 -No. -No. 77 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:46,466 Come on . Squish in . 78 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:12,158 AII right. 79 00:08:16,663 --> 00:08:18,164 James Colthurst, isn't it? 80 00:08:19,624 --> 00:08:21,584 -Yes. -Do you have a moment? 81 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:23,169 Which one? 82 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:26,923 Tall with glasses? 83 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:29,801 I know the one. 84 00:08:30,427 --> 00:08:31,511 CIark Kent. 85 00:08:31,594 --> 00:08:35,056 -He said his name was Andrew. -That's just what I call him, silly. 86 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:37,350 Andrew Morton . 87 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:39,310 He's one of the friendly ones. 88 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:42,147 He's written nice things about me in the past. 89 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:44,691 Well, now he wants to write a whole book about you, 90 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:47,986 and what it's really been Iike marrying into the royal family. 91 00:08:48,069 --> 00:08:49,946 The truth behind the fairy tale. 92 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:52,991 I said you'd never agree to be involved in something like that. 93 00:08:53,074 --> 00:08:53,950 Oh , no. 94 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:55,952 Then we arranged to play squash . 95 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:57,162 What? 96 00:08:57,245 --> 00:09:00,081 He saw my racket in my office and suggested a game. 97 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:02,250 -James. -Don't worry. 98 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:05,378 I said any further discussion of you was totally off-Iimits. 99 00:09:05,462 --> 00:09:06,629 It had better be. 100 00:09:06,713 --> 00:09:08,339 L'll call you after l've seen him. 101 00:09:27,025 --> 00:09:27,901 Hello? 102 00:09:58,973 --> 00:09:59,933 Thank you . 103 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:07,816 Hello! 104 00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:11,653 Hello? 105 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:16,241 Oh , no. 106 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:20,078 -What have I done now? -Well , you're here. Today. 107 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,747 Norton said you were coming tomorrow. 108 00:10:22,831 --> 00:10:25,917 He just left for London for meetings with the bank. 109 00:10:27,085 --> 00:10:28,962 Well , Iet me see if I can reach him . 110 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:31,673 Oh , don't go to any trouble. 111 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:38,054 What can I get you? 112 00:10:38,138 --> 00:10:41,474 -Are you hungry? -Oh God , no. No. Nothing like that. 113 00:10:43,726 --> 00:10:44,894 No, I ... 114 00:10:47,355 --> 00:10:49,983 I just came by to see how you were coping . 115 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:53,361 That's kind . 116 00:10:55,446 --> 00:10:57,198 And to bring these. 117 00:10:59,951 --> 00:11:00,910 Daisies. 118 00:11:01,452 --> 00:11:02,662 For Leonora. 119 00:11:03,413 --> 00:11:07,458 You mentioned at the memorial that they were her favorite. 120 00:11:09,544 --> 00:11:11,254 That's so kind of you . 121 00:11:12,964 --> 00:11:14,465 Shall we take them to her? 122 00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:30,064 Norton thought it was morbid to have her so close, but... 123 00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:34,235 I wanted somewhere I could see her every day. 124 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:38,156 Be near to her every day. 125 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:42,035 It also means I can never leave here. 126 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:44,913 Why would you want to? 127 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:49,709 It's not always easy. 128 00:12:14,817 --> 00:12:20,281 You know, one of the many, many things that attracted me to Lilibet 129 00:12:21,032 --> 00:12:26,079 was that the commitment would necessarily be Iifelong . 130 00:12:27,121 --> 00:12:32,794 And to a young man who'd had such an unsettled , nomadic childhood , 131 00:12:33,461 --> 00:12:37,590 the clarity of that permanence felt so reassuring . 132 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:38,758 It still does. 133 00:12:41,177 --> 00:12:43,263 But it brings its problems too. 134 00:12:45,139 --> 00:12:49,477 Because it doesn't take into account the one thing human beings do 135 00:12:50,019 --> 00:12:53,523 the minute they make a commitment to a Iife together. 136 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:55,483 Which is? 137 00:12:56,985 --> 00:12:59,112 Grow in separate directions. 138 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:19,757 Tell Norton I'Il be sure to be in touch soon 139 00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:21,926 for a godfatherly chat. 140 00:13:23,261 --> 00:13:26,973 And as for you , there's. . . there's two things you might consider. 141 00:13:27,849 --> 00:13:30,435 Why not start a charity in Leonora's name? 142 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:33,896 Yes, I'd already had that idea. 143 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:36,065 And you might find yourself a hobby. 144 00:13:36,607 --> 00:13:39,319 Something that has nothing to do with any of this. 145 00:13:39,402 --> 00:13:40,820 Oh , not a hobby. 146 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:42,238 An escape. 147 00:13:42,905 --> 00:13:45,366 -A passion . -I'Il bear that in mind . 148 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:47,702 Good . 149 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:50,413 Oh , speaking of hobbies, 150 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:53,875 Norton said that you'd given up polo 151 00:13:53,958 --> 00:13:56,669 and developed a thing for carriage driving . 152 00:13:56,753 --> 00:13:58,504 I have, yes. 153 00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:00,131 I'm obsessed . 154 00:14:00,214 --> 00:14:01,090 Why? 155 00:14:07,972 --> 00:14:09,515 Look at that. 156 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:13,978 An old four-in-hand . 157 00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:16,939 -Norton wanted to sell it. -You can't do that. 158 00:14:17,065 --> 00:14:18,900 We've been told it's beyond repair. 159 00:14:18,983 --> 00:14:21,277 Then he thought if you could make use of it... 160 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,196 Well , she may be a bit dusty. 161 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:25,990 Oh , I think the damage is worse than that. 162 00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:28,034 AII right. A bit cracked in places. 163 00:14:28,117 --> 00:14:31,204 Norton was told , "structurally irreparable." 164 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,873 No, no, no. She's a beauty. 165 00:14:34,415 --> 00:14:36,584 And part of the family heritage. 166 00:14:40,296 --> 00:14:41,464 I tell you what. 167 00:14:42,757 --> 00:14:44,175 Why don't we do this? 168 00:14:46,135 --> 00:14:48,304 I'Il send someone to collect her. 169 00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:53,393 We'll clean her up, take a Iook at her, and then we can talk again . 170 00:14:53,476 --> 00:14:55,311 We don't need to talk again . 171 00:14:56,562 --> 00:14:58,564 This could be a hobby for you . 172 00:14:58,648 --> 00:15:01,609 Oh . No, it's really not for me. 173 00:15:01,692 --> 00:15:04,904 Ah , well , that was my attitude at first. 174 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,823 But then I tried it, and ... 175 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:08,866 I saw the Iight. 176 00:15:54,495 --> 00:15:55,997 Mr. Colthurst. 177 00:16:05,298 --> 00:16:06,215 Hello. 178 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:10,803 -I'Il take that. -Thank you . 179 00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:16,476 Thank you . 180 00:16:24,692 --> 00:16:25,651 How was it? 181 00:16:26,777 --> 00:16:27,904 BIoody hell . 182 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:29,989 Very evenly matched . 183 00:16:30,072 --> 00:16:32,533 He moves infuriatingly well for a tall man . 184 00:16:33,701 --> 00:16:37,413 Quick to the T. PIenty of nasty Iittle drop shots and boasts. 185 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:41,000 We played the best of three games. Pipped him in the third . 186 00:16:41,083 --> 00:16:45,004 I wasn't asking about the squash . I want to know about the Iunch . 187 00:16:45,087 --> 00:16:48,216 Ah , a Iittle Italian place near the squash club. 188 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,676 La Barca? Run by a husband and wife. 189 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,303 Not where you had Iunch . 190 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:53,804 Oh , sorry. 191 00:16:53,888 --> 00:16:55,223 Or what you ate. 192 00:16:55,306 --> 00:16:56,432 Linguine. 193 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:00,770 Let's start with who paid . 194 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:03,940 -He did . -James. He's a tabloid journalist. 195 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:05,942 And he bought lunch because he Iost. 196 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:09,695 And if you are worried about indiscretion , he got nothing from me. Not a word . 197 00:17:09,779 --> 00:17:12,365 Whereas I got plenty out of him . 198 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:14,492 Revelation number one. 199 00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:16,536 -He's already started writing . -What? 200 00:17:16,619 --> 00:17:19,080 He thinks there's another book coming out about you 201 00:17:19,163 --> 00:17:20,915 that's likely to be a hatchet job, 202 00:17:20,998 --> 00:17:23,501 based on sources close to the Prince of Wales. 203 00:17:23,584 --> 00:17:24,502 Oh , God . 204 00:17:24,585 --> 00:17:28,965 Anyway, Morton's view is that his version would at Ieast give you some control . 205 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:30,424 Like, be sympathetic. 206 00:17:31,926 --> 00:17:34,220 He'd even Iet you have final approval . 207 00:17:34,303 --> 00:17:38,057 I'd Iove to have a book out so everyone understands how difficult it's been , 208 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:40,601 but I don't wanna be responsible for starting a war. 209 00:17:40,685 --> 00:17:43,521 Morton said that you'd never need to meet him . Ever. 210 00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:47,358 There'd be no connection between you that anyone could prove. 211 00:17:47,441 --> 00:17:48,859 It would all be totally deniable. 212 00:17:49,944 --> 00:17:51,404 How would that even work? 213 00:17:51,487 --> 00:17:52,613 Tape recordings. 214 00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:57,076 You'd record your side of the story, saying only what you want to say, 215 00:17:57,159 --> 00:18:00,246 all in your own words, and then Morton would ... 216 00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:02,290 write the book from those recordings. 217 00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:06,335 If he and I don't meet, how would he get the recordings? 218 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:10,923 There would have to be a middleman . 219 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,219 A go-between . Someone who you both trusted . 220 00:18:17,471 --> 00:18:19,515 Someone who thought it was important. 221 00:18:21,851 --> 00:18:23,394 And you would do that? 222 00:18:24,353 --> 00:18:25,896 If you wanted me to. 223 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:55,051 Give it a Iittle bit more on that side. 224 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:02,058 Morning . 225 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,478 Oh , marvelous. Marvelous. You got the hickory in time. 226 00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:16,030 Hope this is all right. 227 00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,908 I've taken the Iiberty of sketching a few ideas. 228 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:30,670 Let's bring the axle so we can maneuver. 229 00:19:31,754 --> 00:19:32,672 You missed a bit. 230 00:19:33,547 --> 00:19:34,965 -Drawings. -Yes, sir. 231 00:19:51,607 --> 00:19:52,692 Wood ready. 232 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:10,835 -Absolutely marvelous. -Thank you , sir. 233 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,715 -They said it couldn't be done. -We pulled all the stops out, sir. 234 00:20:15,798 --> 00:20:17,425 -Certainly did . -Everybody worked hard . 235 00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:33,107 -What do you think? -Is it even the same carriage? 236 00:20:35,526 --> 00:20:38,738 The original paintwork was a dark black. 237 00:20:38,821 --> 00:20:43,868 I thought we'd add these dashes of gold and this nice, sloping footboard . 238 00:20:45,953 --> 00:20:46,871 Go on . 239 00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:54,170 Now grab here. 240 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,422 A foot here. 241 00:20:56,964 --> 00:20:58,215 The other foot here. 242 00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:09,143 How does it feel? 243 00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:10,269 Fine. 244 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:13,355 Largely because it's not moving . 245 00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:32,792 You try. 246 00:21:35,002 --> 00:21:39,507 These two reins control the leaders. Those are the horses at the front. 247 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:41,425 And these two, the wheelers. 248 00:21:41,509 --> 00:21:44,303 They control the horses nearest to us. 249 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:49,308 Feel free to nod or say yes to Iet me know you're still alive. 250 00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:50,601 Yes. 251 00:21:50,684 --> 00:21:56,857 The trick is to keep these both together. Put between these two fingers. There. 252 00:21:56,941 --> 00:22:02,404 Now, with these two reins, you have control over all four horses. 253 00:22:02,488 --> 00:22:06,242 To turn Ieft, make a Ioop. That's it. 254 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:07,368 Turn to the Ieft. 255 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,330 And to turn right. 256 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:13,457 Very good . 257 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,585 Off you go. 258 00:22:25,761 --> 00:22:27,805 Here. Let me take them. 259 00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:35,646 Wh-- Where are we going? 260 00:22:46,574 --> 00:22:47,867 Hang on ! 261 00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:05,551 Surprising , isn't it? 262 00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:06,635 Yes! 263 00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:08,387 More fun than it Iooks. 264 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:10,055 Yes! 265 00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:19,064 The princess is intrigued by the proposition 266 00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:20,691 and is willing to consider it. 267 00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:22,443 But as her friend ... 268 00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,824 I want to make sure this will actually make her Iife better, not just yours. 269 00:23:29,491 --> 00:23:31,201 You understand why I ask? 270 00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:35,331 She can be a little naive at times, and you stand to become a rich man . 271 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,000 I feel protective. 272 00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:40,544 As a royal correspondent, 273 00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:43,964 I've had a ringside seat to this marriage for a while. 274 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,801 Most recently, her. . . second honeymoon . 275 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:51,555 And I can't stand to see someone being crushed like this. 276 00:23:51,639 --> 00:23:53,265 -You think she is being? -I do. 277 00:23:53,891 --> 00:23:56,101 Take this book that's being written . 278 00:23:56,185 --> 00:23:58,604 With the Prince of Wales' cooperation? 279 00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:01,941 Maybe not him directly, but his friends, for sure. 280 00:24:02,024 --> 00:24:05,194 They want what they see as the truth about Diana to be told . 281 00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,280 Trust me. It won't be pretty. 282 00:24:10,491 --> 00:24:14,119 I just wanna do what's right for her. She's Iike a sister to me. 283 00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:17,790 And I give you my word . 284 00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:20,668 No one will ever know she had anything to do with it. 285 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,172 Let's take it one step at a time. 286 00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:27,091 Get a draff written . 287 00:24:27,633 --> 00:24:30,511 The princess can always kill it Iater if she wants. 288 00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:40,980 Here's a list of questions for her. 289 00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:53,283 Bye, Mummy. 290 00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:55,828 Bye. 291 00:25:34,074 --> 00:25:35,451 James Colthurst. 292 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:38,370 Thank you . 293 00:25:52,426 --> 00:25:53,385 Ready? 294 00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:01,143 I'm suddenly incredibly nervous. 295 00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:09,318 Andrew wanted you to start by explaining why you're doing this. 296 00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,200 Because I've tried everything . 297 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,164 I've confronted my husband about his mistress, 298 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:23,707 and I've been dismissed . 299 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:27,002 I've gone to the Queen . 300 00:26:29,004 --> 00:26:30,631 It's like facing a blank wall . 301 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,467 And it finally dawned on me 302 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:36,762 that unless I get my side of the story out there, 303 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:41,183 people will never understand how it's really been for me. 304 00:26:42,976 --> 00:26:47,439 And I thought about moving abroad with the boys, 305 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:52,820 but the Crown could take Iegal custody of any heirs to the throne. 306 00:26:54,571 --> 00:26:57,074 And I'd have the boys taken away from me. 307 00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:04,123 Which is what happened to my mother. 308 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:08,752 And I couldn't survive that. 309 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:27,771 Can you tell me something about your childhood? 310 00:27:28,605 --> 00:27:31,650 It was a very unhappy childhood. 311 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:36,947 My parents were always wrapped up in their own problems. 312 00:27:38,365 --> 00:27:40,492 And my mother was always in tears. 313 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,748 And my father. . . never telling us what was going on . 314 00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:51,962 And there was always a succession of nannies 315 00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:54,173 who I hated . 316 00:27:56,091 --> 00:27:59,636 Prince Charles famously replied, "Whatever 'in love ' means" 317 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,055 when asked if he was in love with you. 318 00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:04,308 How did that make you feel? 319 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:07,686 Absolutely traumatized . 320 00:28:08,562 --> 00:28:12,191 My self-worth was cut in two. 321 00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:13,942 But... 322 00:28:15,402 --> 00:28:17,988 I was too scared to ask him what he meant. 323 00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:20,324 And then it was too late. 324 00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:23,452 From the outside, it was the fairy-tale wedding. 325 00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:26,538 How did it feel on the inside? 326 00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:31,001 Like a bad dream . 327 00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:33,629 The night before the wedding, 328 00:28:35,005 --> 00:28:38,717 I was suddenly overwhelmed , 329 00:28:39,343 --> 00:28:42,137 and I sobbed my eyes out. 330 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,808 I ate everything in sight. 331 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,436 I was sick all over the place, 332 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:54,149 which was a big sign that all was not well. 333 00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:59,613 While walking down the aisle, I was overwhelmed with Iove for my husband . 334 00:29:00,656 --> 00:29:02,199 And then l saw Camilla 335 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:06,578 in her gray suit and her pillbox hat. 336 00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:09,623 And I just felt chilled to the bone. 337 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:14,461 How quickly did things start to go sour? 338 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:17,422 Well, l started to unravel at the honeymoon. 339 00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:21,843 And at night, I was having these dreadful nightmares about Camilla. 340 00:29:21,927 --> 00:29:25,305 When the Queen was there, l always felt second place. 341 00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:28,225 Charles barely looked at me. l felt like a fish out of water. 342 00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:29,309 And l was so thin, 343 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:31,687 my bones were sticking out all over the place. 344 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:35,148 When l talked to him about photographers hounding me, 345 00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:36,400 he talked about Camilla. 346 00:29:36,483 --> 00:29:38,986 When l tried to be brave and make a speech in Welsh, 347 00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:42,531 l got no support. l felt like a lamb to the slaughter. 348 00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:45,409 Did you feel your husband was committed to the marriage 349 00:29:45,492 --> 00:29:47,286 in the same way that you were ? 350 00:29:47,369 --> 00:29:49,454 Well , there was always the other one. 351 00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:53,583 From the word go. 352 00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,546 I couldn't compete. 353 00:29:59,881 --> 00:30:02,259 And l'd overhear him on the phone to her. 354 00:30:03,844 --> 00:30:06,555 And he used a voice I'd never heard him use with me. 355 00:30:07,723 --> 00:30:10,559 Tender, caring, adoring. 356 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:15,981 When I was pregnant with William, 357 00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:18,817 I threw myself down the stairs at Sandringham . 358 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,562 -Andrew's Iistened to the tapes? -He has. 359 00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,315 And draffed some follow-up questions. 360 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:00,609 What did he think? 361 00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:03,779 I think he was a bit shocked . 362 00:31:04,738 --> 00:31:08,200 He said he had to look up "bulimia nervosa" in Kumar and CIark's. 363 00:31:09,451 --> 00:31:10,577 I have to admit, 364 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:14,706 there have been a few surprises for me in all this too. 365 00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:21,963 I wish you'd have told me before. 366 00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:24,174 About the... 367 00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:28,929 The suicide attempts? 368 00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:31,640 I'm so sorry. 369 00:31:34,351 --> 00:31:35,811 Why didn't you call us? 370 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,407 He wants to know if he can speak to any of your friends. 371 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:50,951 -Why? -It would help with the deniability. 372 00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:54,496 If he can show he has other sources for all this, then it gives you cover. 373 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,082 He'd ask the same questions I've asked you , 374 00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,167 and they'II be corroborating witnesses. 375 00:32:03,588 --> 00:32:04,464 AII right. 376 00:32:09,803 --> 00:32:11,221 We can start with Sue. 377 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:14,349 -Who's Sue? -My aromatherapist. 378 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,562 And Felix Lyle. 379 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,647 Felix Lyle. 380 00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:22,023 My astrologer. 381 00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:27,112 And . . . Oonagh Shanley-Toffolo. 382 00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:29,906 Oh , don't tell me. She's your Reiki healer. 383 00:32:31,366 --> 00:32:32,909 My acupuncturist. 384 00:32:33,452 --> 00:32:36,496 And Stephen Twigg , my bodyworker. 385 00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:41,626 It's like an osteopath . 386 00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:44,045 Right. 387 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,558 Good . Good . You're doing really well . 388 00:32:58,518 --> 00:32:59,644 Excellent. 389 00:33:06,443 --> 00:33:07,611 Here we are. 390 00:33:10,864 --> 00:33:12,866 Now, I've had a go 391 00:33:12,949 --> 00:33:16,077 at the governing instrument for the charity. 392 00:33:17,913 --> 00:33:20,540 These are the trust deeds. 393 00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:22,042 The memorandum. 394 00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:23,418 And the articles. 395 00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:26,713 What do you think of a research fellowship? 396 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:30,467 To study cancer in children . 397 00:33:32,052 --> 00:33:34,346 They were all so good to us at Barts. 398 00:33:34,888 --> 00:33:37,474 Made such a difference to Leonora's final days. 399 00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:39,518 I think that's a lovely idea. 400 00:33:40,435 --> 00:33:43,563 Getting registration can be a bit of a slog , but... 401 00:33:43,647 --> 00:33:47,150 Well , I'm on good terms with some of the charity commissioners. 402 00:33:47,692 --> 00:33:48,944 Let me talk to them. 403 00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:04,834 You know, a Iong time ago, I lost my favorite sister. 404 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:06,503 Cecile. 405 00:34:07,295 --> 00:34:08,755 I n an airplane crash . 406 00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:13,635 I learned then what grief was. 407 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:16,304 True grief. 408 00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:24,646 How it moves through the body. 409 00:34:26,439 --> 00:34:27,983 How it inhabits it. 410 00:34:30,652 --> 00:34:32,737 How it becomes part of your skin . 411 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:35,031 Your cells. 412 00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:40,036 And it makes a home there. 413 00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:43,707 A permanent home. 414 00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:52,215 But you Iearn to Iive with it. 415 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:57,053 And you will be happy again . 416 00:34:58,638 --> 00:35:00,974 Though never in the same way as before, but... 417 00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:03,852 But that's the point. 418 00:35:05,979 --> 00:35:09,190 To keep finding new ways. 419 00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:14,070 Yes. 420 00:35:58,114 --> 00:35:59,783 Are you all right? 421 00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:02,035 -See that? -Come out of nowhere. See that? 422 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:46,538 Thank you . 423 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,289 Don't be silly. 424 00:36:50,125 --> 00:36:54,629 Anything you need , you have the number that gets straight through to me. 425 00:36:55,171 --> 00:36:57,882 Avoids the operator and all that nonsense. 426 00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:02,804 Oh , I almost forgot, something Norton wanted me to pass on . 427 00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:06,349 Apparently, there's a book being written about the Princess of Wales, 428 00:37:06,433 --> 00:37:07,726 with her cooperation . 429 00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:09,144 What kind of book? 430 00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:12,856 One that claims how badly she's been treated by the family. 431 00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:15,692 Everyone's failure to understand her. 432 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:19,195 The jealousy everyone feels about her popularity and success. 433 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:22,490 Norton said he'd had several calls from people saying 434 00:37:22,574 --> 00:37:26,870 that either they'd been approached or knew someone else who had . 435 00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:30,457 Probably just gossip. 436 00:37:31,541 --> 00:37:33,126 Norton should know better. 437 00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:38,256 Send him my best. 438 00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:39,924 I will . 439 00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:02,906 You don't think the two incidents are related? 440 00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:06,284 You get knocked off your bike, then Andrew's house gets broken into. 441 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:09,412 Not the first time I've been driven into the gutter by "White Van Man ," 442 00:38:09,496 --> 00:38:13,041 and break-ins happen in London hundreds of times a day. 443 00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:14,626 Besides, nothing was stolen . 444 00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:18,671 I'm not answering that. I'm not speaking on this thing again , ever. 445 00:38:18,755 --> 00:38:22,091 I heard a click on our Iine this morning . On this end . 446 00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:23,676 Patrick. 447 00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:33,853 Jephson . 448 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:37,023 Miles, good afternoon . 449 00:38:39,526 --> 00:38:41,528 Right. Of course. 450 00:38:42,779 --> 00:38:44,322 We'll come right back to you . 451 00:38:46,074 --> 00:38:49,661 Miles Hunt-Davis, the Duke of Edinburgh's private secretary, 452 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:52,330 requesting a meeting with you as soon as possible. 453 00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:00,630 ...three miles from Castlederg in County Tyrone 454 00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:03,007 when at least two terrorists were frightened off 455 00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:05,093 as they planned to ambush an off-duty member 456 00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:06,886 of the Royal lrish Regiment at his home. 457 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:14,602 ...by security forces in the early hours of this morning. 458 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:17,438 According to police, the fierce exchange of gunfire... 459 00:39:54,434 --> 00:39:55,393 Well , 460 00:39:56,561 --> 00:39:59,689 it's been a while since I've been in Kensington Palace. 461 00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:01,816 The Ieper colony. 462 00:40:02,609 --> 00:40:04,068 Is that what you call it? 463 00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:10,491 I think of it as the depot where we put all the mad old aunts. 464 00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:17,373 AII watching each other's comings and goings through net curtains. 465 00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:23,087 Is there any privacy at all? 466 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:25,757 -None. -Ghastly. 467 00:40:26,299 --> 00:40:28,843 Because privacy's so important, isn't it? 468 00:40:30,345 --> 00:40:31,387 Yes. 469 00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:33,890 Confidentiality too. 470 00:40:38,728 --> 00:40:41,564 I suppose that's what I've come to see you about today. 471 00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:43,483 PIease. 472 00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:46,903 I won't if that's all right. 473 00:40:55,870 --> 00:40:58,623 Yes, I-- I can be a tough old nut, 474 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:01,751 but I've always had a soft spot for you . 475 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:06,673 Maybe because you're young . Maybe because you're a beautiful woman . 476 00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:11,552 Maybe because I offen share your frustration with your husband . 477 00:41:13,513 --> 00:41:16,724 I've always felt protective of you . 478 00:41:18,101 --> 00:41:20,478 Fond of you . There, I've said it. 479 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:24,899 So when I see you making errors of judgment, 480 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:28,778 I want to Iean across the table and remind you , 481 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:30,947 I'm on your team . 482 00:41:32,949 --> 00:41:34,367 What am I trying to say? 483 00:41:35,702 --> 00:41:37,662 You're not a novice anymore. 484 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:41,833 You're long past the point of thinking of us as a family. 485 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:44,585 That's the mistake people make in the beginning , 486 00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:47,922 but you understand , I think, it's a system . 487 00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:50,675 And we're all in this system . 488 00:41:51,384 --> 00:41:54,303 You , me, the Boss. 489 00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:58,307 The cousins, the uncles, the aunts. 490 00:41:58,891 --> 00:42:00,184 The Iepers. 491 00:42:01,436 --> 00:42:03,479 For better or for worse. 492 00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:05,148 We're all stuck in it. 493 00:42:06,232 --> 00:42:08,818 And we can't just air our grievances 494 00:42:08,901 --> 00:42:12,447 and throw bombs in the air as in a normal family, 495 00:42:13,448 --> 00:42:16,242 or we end up damaging something much bigger 496 00:42:16,325 --> 00:42:18,745 and something much more important. 497 00:42:20,747 --> 00:42:21,789 The system . 498 00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:27,420 So the tip I want to give you is this. 499 00:42:28,963 --> 00:42:32,467 I mean , just-- just be creative. 500 00:42:35,136 --> 00:42:39,474 You can break as many rules as you Iike. You can do whatever you want. 501 00:42:40,725 --> 00:42:45,229 You can make whatever arrangements you need to find your own happiness. 502 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:48,858 As Iong as you remember the one condition . 503 00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:51,152 The one rule. 504 00:42:52,779 --> 00:42:57,325 You remain Ioyal to your husband and Ioyal to this family 505 00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:59,118 in public. 506 00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:03,456 You mean silent? 507 00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:04,582 Yes. 508 00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:08,419 Don't rock the boat. 509 00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:15,593 Right. 510 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:17,303 Ever. 511 00:43:19,055 --> 00:43:20,306 To the grave. 512 00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:35,196 You're not saying anything . 513 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:40,326 I don't think there's anything to say. 514 00:43:44,789 --> 00:43:48,626 Then I think that's the wisest thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth . 515 00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:32,461 She 'll be fine. 516 00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:35,840 Good . 517 00:44:35,923 --> 00:44:37,091 Yes. 518 00:44:38,426 --> 00:44:41,596 I told her that if she were a Iittle more clever, 519 00:44:42,889 --> 00:44:44,599 a Iittle more strategic, 520 00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:48,102 she could find all the happiness she needs in this system ... 521 00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,355 ...without anyone being any the wiser. 522 00:44:52,982 --> 00:44:54,817 Is that the solution , do you think? 523 00:44:56,027 --> 00:44:59,614 That husbands and wives should keep secrets from one another? 524 00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:02,116 Secrets? That's not a very nice word . 525 00:45:03,117 --> 00:45:04,160 No. 526 00:45:05,244 --> 00:45:09,415 No, what I mean is, you know, if people were, well , more considerate, 527 00:45:09,498 --> 00:45:12,960 more mature, more discreet, 528 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:17,506 it can actually be the glue that binds it all together. 529 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,721 You see, I think in a marriage, one should aim to exist 530 00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:27,850 without secrets or accommodations. 531 00:45:27,934 --> 00:45:30,937 Yes, well , that's because you are who you are. 532 00:45:31,646 --> 00:45:36,567 And not just because any husband or wife can feel when something is awry, 533 00:45:36,651 --> 00:45:40,529 but ultimately, it's not what I know about you 534 00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:43,324 or even what you know about me. 535 00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:45,660 It's what He knows. 536 00:45:47,245 --> 00:45:48,621 About all of us. 537 00:45:49,705 --> 00:45:52,291 I think He has the night off occasionally. 538 00:46:00,549 --> 00:46:02,051 Good night. 539 00:46:02,134 --> 00:46:03,177 Good night. 540 00:46:26,534 --> 00:46:30,705 Tonight l'm joined by Andrew Morton, one-time royal watcher 541 00:46:30,788 --> 00:46:33,958 and now author of the book that everyone is talking about. 542 00:46:34,583 --> 00:46:36,711 -Andrew, good evening. -Good evening. 543 00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:39,213 For anyone who's been living under a rock, 544 00:46:39,297 --> 00:46:41,674 and doesn 't know, could you tell us what your book is about? 545 00:46:41,757 --> 00:46:44,885 My book is an intimate portrait of Princess Diana. 546 00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:47,179 An attempt to tell the story of what her life, 547 00:46:47,263 --> 00:46:49,932 and particularly her marriage, is really like. 548 00:46:50,516 --> 00:46:54,103 And the fact is, behind the glamorous public facade, 549 00:46:54,228 --> 00:46:56,731 what we have is a woman who is deeply unhappy. 550 00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:58,983 Which you go into in great detaiI 551 00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:01,944 in a book that seems to be channeling Diana herself, 552 00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:05,364 and yet which you claim she was in no way involved . 553 00:47:05,448 --> 00:47:09,076 I can say categorically that I did not interview the princess, 554 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,539 but l spoke to her friends, associates, anyone who was willing to talk. 555 00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:14,957 Many were notjust willing, 556 00:47:15,041 --> 00:47:17,335 they were desperate to tell the world how it really is. 557 00:47:17,418 --> 00:47:19,795 And we really are talking about the whole world. 558 00:47:19,879 --> 00:47:23,382 I mean , this book is breaking all kinds of publishing records. 559 00:47:23,466 --> 00:47:26,135 In France, Holland, Germany, Japan, 560 00:47:26,218 --> 00:47:29,472 and is making you a rich man in the process. 561 00:47:29,555 --> 00:47:32,600 Do you feel a sense of guilt or responsibility 562 00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:35,811 for throwing the royal family into crisis? 563 00:47:35,895 --> 00:47:39,690 Honestly, I think the royal family have been throwing themselves into crisis. 564 00:47:39,774 --> 00:47:43,819 They knew what they were getting into with Diana. They knew she was vulnerable. 565 00:47:43,903 --> 00:47:46,113 They knew she 'd had a difficult childhood. 566 00:47:47,740 --> 00:47:51,827 They knew she needed love and security and reassurance. 567 00:47:53,329 --> 00:47:55,498 But did they give it to her? No. 568 00:47:56,123 --> 00:47:58,250 They gave her the total opposite. 569 00:47:58,334 --> 00:47:59,710 So they can't be surprised 570 00:47:59,794 --> 00:48:02,755 she wants people to understand why she hasn't been happy. 571 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:05,633 So, where does that leave us? 572 00:48:05,716 --> 00:48:08,719 That Ieaves us in one of those cyclical moments 573 00:48:08,803 --> 00:48:11,764 where the royal family is in genuine crisis, 574 00:48:12,431 --> 00:48:16,811 but where the fragile truce between Diana and the royals is clearly not working. 575 00:48:17,353 --> 00:48:19,397 There are two alternatives to a truce. 576 00:48:19,939 --> 00:48:23,442 Either you have a Iong-term negotiated peace, 577 00:48:23,526 --> 00:48:27,988 which I don't see happening . The two sides are too entrenched . 578 00:48:29,198 --> 00:48:31,325 Or you escalate. 579 00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:33,619 Into what? 580 00:48:34,203 --> 00:48:35,454 All-out war. 581 00:48:36,288 --> 00:48:39,083 Which, sadly, seems to be where this is currently headed.