1 00:00:01,262 --> 00:00:03,829 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:07,703 --> 00:00:09,009 - I want to think that you've changed. 3 00:00:09,096 --> 00:00:10,619 Charles obviously does. 4 00:00:10,706 --> 00:00:12,012 - When it comes to him, I'd rather save my ass 5 00:00:12,099 --> 00:00:13,535 than my face. 6 00:00:13,622 --> 00:00:15,450 - If you're teaching a bunch of college students, 7 00:00:15,537 --> 00:00:17,104 I don't think these tweets came from them. 8 00:00:17,191 --> 00:00:19,149 - You set me up. - You're fired! 9 00:00:19,236 --> 00:00:20,629 You brought this on yourself. 10 00:00:20,716 --> 00:00:21,934 - My train's on the corner. - Oh, no, no, no. 11 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:23,414 Freddie can take you anywhere you want. 12 00:00:23,501 --> 00:00:25,329 Maybe dinner with a friendly book lover? 13 00:00:25,416 --> 00:00:27,679 - You dated Clare. - We broke up last month. 14 00:00:27,766 --> 00:00:29,812 - It dropped today. - Oh, my God! 15 00:00:29,899 --> 00:00:32,554 Our little incubator, it's taking off! 16 00:00:32,641 --> 00:00:33,816 - Hey, what are you doing with that sign? 17 00:00:33,903 --> 00:00:35,383 - Maggie Amato's been cancelled. 18 00:00:38,864 --> 00:00:41,780 [upbeat music] 19 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:45,175 ♪ ♪ 20 00:00:50,789 --> 00:00:52,574 - Hi. 21 00:00:52,661 --> 00:00:54,967 - And the caterpillar emerges from her chrysalis, 22 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:56,752 a beautiful butterfly. 23 00:00:56,839 --> 00:01:00,060 - Not now, I've been up since 4:00 a.m. 24 00:01:00,147 --> 00:01:01,539 - What are you doing back there? 25 00:01:01,626 --> 00:01:04,020 - Well, I built a dark room. 26 00:01:04,107 --> 00:01:06,631 You know, this whole cancel Maggie Amato business 27 00:01:06,718 --> 00:01:08,155 gave me an idea for a new show. 28 00:01:08,242 --> 00:01:09,417 - Hey, that's great. 29 00:01:09,504 --> 00:01:11,245 - I think it could be, 30 00:01:11,332 --> 00:01:14,291 but, no gallery wants to rep me now. 31 00:01:14,378 --> 00:01:16,728 So I'm showing at the East River Bar, 32 00:01:16,815 --> 00:01:18,252 you know, in that side room people go to piss 33 00:01:18,339 --> 00:01:20,471 when the bathroom line gets too long. 34 00:01:20,558 --> 00:01:22,343 - Well, hey, Charles didn't wanna publish 35 00:01:22,430 --> 00:01:24,606 one of our Inkubator authors, so we got her into "Vulture." 36 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:26,260 Each week, a new chapter comes out, 37 00:01:26,347 --> 00:01:28,349 and people are going crazy for her. 38 00:01:28,436 --> 00:01:30,438 I know it's-- it's not the same, but-- 39 00:01:30,525 --> 00:01:32,396 - Even when the bathroom line isn't long, 40 00:01:32,483 --> 00:01:34,659 people still go in there to piss-- 41 00:01:34,746 --> 00:01:36,139 and vomit. 42 00:01:36,226 --> 00:01:37,488 - Well, you have to show your work-- 43 00:01:37,575 --> 00:01:40,143 even in a bar that stinks of piss and vomit, 44 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:41,927 because that's what artists do. 45 00:01:42,014 --> 00:01:43,538 - Yeah. 46 00:01:43,625 --> 00:01:45,931 Well, at least you'll be there, right? 47 00:01:46,018 --> 00:01:47,324 - I'ma have to check my calendar. 48 00:01:47,411 --> 00:01:49,152 [upbeat music] 49 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:51,285 - ♪ Hey, hey, we got soul ♪ 50 00:01:51,372 --> 00:01:53,374 ♪ Oh yeah, we got soul ♪ 51 00:01:53,461 --> 00:01:55,332 ♪ Hey, hey ♪ 52 00:01:55,419 --> 00:01:57,769 ♪ Hey, hey ♪ 53 00:01:57,856 --> 00:01:59,641 - 57 comments on Dylan's chapter, 54 00:01:59,728 --> 00:02:00,990 and they're all positive. 55 00:02:01,077 --> 00:02:02,426 - Um, 58. 56 00:02:02,513 --> 00:02:04,254 - Okay, this one is just an emoji of a bowl. 57 00:02:04,341 --> 00:02:05,473 Do you think it means bowled over? 58 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,431 - No, eating it up. - [gasps] 59 00:02:07,518 --> 00:02:09,694 - You guys, these people fell in love hard. 60 00:02:09,781 --> 00:02:11,392 Ugh, look at you. 61 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:13,524 Withholding the chapters, teasing the readers-- 62 00:02:13,611 --> 00:02:15,744 I'm seriously triggered, and seriously impressed. 63 00:02:15,831 --> 00:02:17,963 - I mean, it is a total mind game. 64 00:02:18,050 --> 00:02:20,401 It's like, we hooked up, and it was hot, 65 00:02:20,488 --> 00:02:23,012 but I want to take it slow. 66 00:02:23,099 --> 00:02:24,796 - Yeah, it's like a friendly hug goodbye, 67 00:02:24,883 --> 00:02:26,189 but then you lean your hips forward 68 00:02:26,276 --> 00:02:28,626 just enough to graze it. 69 00:02:28,713 --> 00:02:31,934 - Ew, Liza, you nasty. - I know, I'm nasty. 70 00:02:32,021 --> 00:02:33,544 [laughter] 71 00:02:33,631 --> 00:02:35,807 - Good morning. - Good morning, hello. 72 00:02:35,894 --> 00:02:38,158 - Is this the girl that came out of your Inkubator night? 73 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:39,811 - Sure is. 74 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:41,335 - It's good. - Yeah. Do you think 75 00:02:41,422 --> 00:02:43,337 maybe we should bring her in? 76 00:02:43,424 --> 00:02:45,469 - Can I get a Y to the E to the-- 77 00:02:45,556 --> 00:02:48,690 - No, it's still not something we would publish. 78 00:02:48,777 --> 00:02:50,213 - Well, someone wanted to publish her. 79 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:51,867 - And let people read her work for free. 80 00:02:51,954 --> 00:02:53,912 - Well, sometimes content is for free. 81 00:02:53,999 --> 00:02:55,958 That's what Inkubator is all about. 82 00:02:56,045 --> 00:02:58,265 - And Dylan's next book might be worth some money, 83 00:02:58,352 --> 00:03:00,397 so, we're just helping her get there. 84 00:03:00,484 --> 00:03:02,443 - But I also need you to get to work 85 00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:05,010 on books that people will actually... 86 00:03:05,097 --> 00:03:07,187 pay to read. 87 00:03:09,624 --> 00:03:10,581 - Excuse me. 88 00:03:10,668 --> 00:03:13,541 [funky music] 89 00:03:13,628 --> 00:03:17,936 ♪ ♪ 90 00:03:18,023 --> 00:03:20,287 - Hi, me again. 91 00:03:20,374 --> 00:03:22,071 Do you know Susan Abbott? 92 00:03:22,158 --> 00:03:24,160 - Yeah, of course, she's the food writer 93 00:03:24,247 --> 00:03:25,814 married to Jonah Rothchild-- 94 00:03:25,901 --> 00:03:28,077 he's one of my favorite authors. 95 00:03:28,164 --> 00:03:30,079 - Well, Susan and Jonah are coming in today 96 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:31,863 to meet with me. 97 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:33,996 - Jonah left FSG? 98 00:03:34,083 --> 00:03:35,563 - No, he's still there, and Susan is still with 99 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:37,782 Harper-Collins, but, they're doing a book together 100 00:03:37,869 --> 00:03:40,524 and they want a new publisher for the joint venture. 101 00:03:40,611 --> 00:03:44,049 - Wow. This could be a get. 102 00:03:44,136 --> 00:03:45,703 Jonah has a Pulitzer. 103 00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:48,271 - And Susan ha two James Beard awards, 104 00:03:48,358 --> 00:03:50,447 we worked really hard to get them in here-- 105 00:03:50,534 --> 00:03:51,709 since I figure it's a book people 106 00:03:51,796 --> 00:03:53,233 will actually pay to read. 107 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,105 - Um-- 108 00:03:56,192 --> 00:04:00,152 would you mind if I joined the meeting? 109 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,807 - It's your company, you can do whatever you want. 110 00:04:02,894 --> 00:04:04,853 [upbeat music] 111 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:06,594 [phone chiming] 112 00:04:06,681 --> 00:04:09,814 ♪ ♪ 113 00:04:09,901 --> 00:04:11,425 [phone ringing] 114 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:15,124 [ringing continues] 115 00:04:15,211 --> 00:04:21,783 ♪ ♪ 116 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:25,569 - Okay, so, first an unsolicited tick pic, 117 00:04:25,656 --> 00:04:28,746 and now a FaceTime call with no warning? 118 00:04:28,833 --> 00:04:29,965 - I thought it was a fun surprise. 119 00:04:30,052 --> 00:04:31,706 - No! 120 00:04:31,793 --> 00:04:34,230 In fact, most people would consider this, like, 121 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:35,971 a terrorist act. 122 00:04:36,058 --> 00:04:38,756 - Well, I need a social media etiquette class. 123 00:04:38,843 --> 00:04:40,323 Or, maybe a personal tutor? 124 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:42,020 - I don't tutor. 125 00:04:42,107 --> 00:04:43,587 - Do you go to hockey games? 126 00:04:43,674 --> 00:04:46,242 - Why, did someone cancel on you? 127 00:04:46,329 --> 00:04:47,504 - I have season tickets, 128 00:04:47,591 --> 00:04:48,940 you are the only person I've asked, 129 00:04:49,027 --> 00:04:50,768 but if you want to invite people, I have a box. 130 00:04:50,855 --> 00:04:53,423 - Oh, wow. [laughs] 131 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:55,033 I'm surprised you didn't send a pic of that. 132 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,384 - Of my box? 133 00:04:57,471 --> 00:04:58,776 Even I know that's at least date two or three. 134 00:04:58,863 --> 00:05:01,431 - [laughs] 135 00:05:01,518 --> 00:05:03,259 I'll see you there at seven. 136 00:05:03,346 --> 00:05:04,521 - Perfect. 137 00:05:04,608 --> 00:05:07,263 [upbeat music] 138 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:09,961 [sighs] 139 00:05:10,048 --> 00:05:14,705 - A notable food writer and a guy famous 140 00:05:14,792 --> 00:05:18,622 for his literary fiction decide to write a spy novel. 141 00:05:18,709 --> 00:05:20,189 How did that happen? 142 00:05:20,276 --> 00:05:21,669 - Well, our first date, 143 00:05:21,756 --> 00:05:23,845 we saw "Three Days of the Condor"-- 144 00:05:23,932 --> 00:05:25,629 - Yes we did. - At the Film Forum. 145 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:28,502 And afterward, we went back to his place, 146 00:05:28,589 --> 00:05:31,200 he pretended to be Robert Redford, 147 00:05:31,287 --> 00:05:32,549 I was Faye Dunaway. [laughter] 148 00:05:32,636 --> 00:05:34,246 - We love the spy genre 149 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,161 is the point, I hope, of that story, right? 150 00:05:36,248 --> 00:05:38,294 - Have you two ever collaborated before? 151 00:05:38,381 --> 00:05:40,383 - No, we were wiser in our youth. 152 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:42,167 - Yeah, well, we d-- we've always helped each other, 153 00:05:42,254 --> 00:05:44,692 but collaborating was a different beast. 154 00:05:44,779 --> 00:05:46,215 - It could be worse, you could be broken up 155 00:05:46,302 --> 00:05:47,869 and working together. 156 00:05:47,956 --> 00:05:50,045 We published Charles' ex-wife's book. 157 00:05:50,132 --> 00:05:51,481 That was tricky. - I thought that book 158 00:05:51,568 --> 00:05:52,830 went pretty smoothly, considering. 159 00:05:52,917 --> 00:05:54,310 - Hm, well, I was the one who edited it, 160 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:55,703 so, I have a different take. 161 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:57,052 - I'll bet. 162 00:05:57,139 --> 00:05:59,924 - So, who would we be working with? 163 00:06:00,011 --> 00:06:01,926 - Me. - Me. 164 00:06:02,013 --> 00:06:05,365 - Or, both of us. - Yeah, 165 00:06:05,452 --> 00:06:07,105 That could be fun. 166 00:06:07,192 --> 00:06:09,412 - We both have multi-book contracts with, y'know, 167 00:06:09,499 --> 00:06:11,371 publishers and we want to make an informed decision. 168 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,198 - We actually have a lot of interest, 169 00:06:13,285 --> 00:06:16,680 so we decided to do a bake-off. 170 00:06:16,767 --> 00:06:19,204 - Here are the first two chapters. 171 00:06:19,291 --> 00:06:21,293 - Just take a look, see what you think. 172 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,382 - By tomorrow. 173 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:24,122 - Uh, we'll make it work. 174 00:06:24,209 --> 00:06:27,082 - Well, then, you passed the first test, look at that. 175 00:06:27,169 --> 00:06:29,432 The second is if we like your notes, so-- 176 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,174 - And if we do, it'll be a double date. 177 00:06:32,261 --> 00:06:33,741 - [chuckles] - I'm kidding. 178 00:06:33,828 --> 00:06:35,177 - I know. 179 00:06:36,091 --> 00:06:39,094 - That went well. 180 00:06:39,181 --> 00:06:41,792 Um, maybe we can dig in after lunch? 181 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:43,968 - Yeah, I'll make copies. [laughter] 182 00:06:44,055 --> 00:06:45,535 - Lo cracks me up. 183 00:06:45,622 --> 00:06:47,319 - Yeah, I was trying to hold the elevator door 184 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:50,148 for Quinn and he dumped my sweet greens and um-- 185 00:06:50,235 --> 00:06:53,456 crushed my hand, but it was pretty funny, so-- 186 00:06:53,543 --> 00:06:55,371 - Lo? - Um, short for Lauren. 187 00:06:55,458 --> 00:06:58,548 It's a nickname, and Quinn gave it to me, I like it. 188 00:06:58,635 --> 00:07:01,333 - Who was this "it's so important we have to 189 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:03,074 move our lunch meeting with"? 190 00:07:03,161 --> 00:07:05,729 - Jonah Rothchild and Susan Abbott. 191 00:07:05,816 --> 00:07:07,818 - [gasps] Susan Abbott was here? 192 00:07:07,905 --> 00:07:09,603 Oh, my God, her book "Bread Soup: 193 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,082 A Winter In Milan" changed my life. 194 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:12,780 - I know, same with me. 195 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:14,738 - Yeah, it's the reason I only masturbate with olive oil. 196 00:07:14,825 --> 00:07:16,914 - Okay, different for me. 197 00:07:17,001 --> 00:07:20,091 - So, I moved our lunch to 1:30. 198 00:07:20,178 --> 00:07:22,398 What time is it now? - Um-- 199 00:07:22,485 --> 00:07:25,619 - Ooh, nice watch, sir. 200 00:07:25,706 --> 00:07:28,099 - If you want accurate time, you get a watch made in Geneva, 201 00:07:28,186 --> 00:07:30,450 and if you're very lucky, you get one as a gift. 202 00:07:30,537 --> 00:07:33,670 - It is 1:12. - [laughs] 203 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:35,672 - I'm gonna go grab my coat. - Okay. 204 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:37,195 All right, get in here. 205 00:07:37,282 --> 00:07:39,371 I can't tell if he likes the watch. 206 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:41,983 Is it too flashy? Not flashy enough? 207 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:44,115 And what does it say about me that I was the first one 208 00:07:44,202 --> 00:07:45,552 in the relationship to give a gift? 209 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:47,815 - My advice? - Yeah? 210 00:07:47,902 --> 00:07:50,208 - Don't overthink it. 211 00:07:50,295 --> 00:07:51,775 - I mean, maybe gifts just aren't his thing. 212 00:07:51,862 --> 00:07:54,125 Like, he didn't even get Liza a ring when he proposed. 213 00:07:56,563 --> 00:07:59,043 - He proposed? Like a proposed marriage? 214 00:07:59,130 --> 00:08:01,481 [both laugh] 215 00:08:01,568 --> 00:08:02,786 - Is that a joke? 216 00:08:02,873 --> 00:08:04,309 - No, I mean, I kind of wish it were, 217 00:08:04,396 --> 00:08:06,311 but she--she obviously said no, so-- 218 00:08:06,398 --> 00:08:08,096 - [inhales sharply] - Okay. Bye bye. 219 00:08:08,183 --> 00:08:09,227 - Hi. 220 00:08:09,314 --> 00:08:12,230 [upbeat music] 221 00:08:12,317 --> 00:08:15,712 ♪ ♪ 222 00:08:15,799 --> 00:08:17,061 - I had a great time. 223 00:08:17,148 --> 00:08:19,499 - Ugh, me too. 224 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:21,065 - You don't sound happy about that. 225 00:08:21,152 --> 00:08:22,893 - Well, I was kind of hoping I was gonna have 226 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:24,939 a horrible time and get you out of my system. 227 00:08:25,026 --> 00:08:27,158 - [scoffs] - [laughs] 228 00:08:27,245 --> 00:08:29,857 I'm not really looking for complicated dating situation. 229 00:08:29,944 --> 00:08:32,816 - It's not a complicated situation. 230 00:08:32,903 --> 00:08:34,775 Claire and I ended things amicably, 231 00:08:34,862 --> 00:08:37,429 We just--we weren't a match. 232 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:40,084 And yes, of course, I noticed how beautiful you were 233 00:08:40,171 --> 00:08:41,999 the first time we met. 234 00:08:42,086 --> 00:08:45,002 But I swear I didn't have one impure thought about you. 235 00:08:45,089 --> 00:08:47,178 Uh, until you yelled at me about my books, 236 00:08:47,265 --> 00:08:50,138 which, weirdly turned me on. 237 00:08:50,225 --> 00:08:53,445 - And it was a full month after Claire and I broke up. 238 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:56,710 I love Claire, and I love Claire's daughter-- 239 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:58,189 - Shh. 240 00:08:58,276 --> 00:09:01,105 [sentimental music] 241 00:09:01,192 --> 00:09:08,112 ♪ ♪ 242 00:09:18,601 --> 00:09:20,124 Ah! 243 00:09:20,211 --> 00:09:22,518 God. Jesus, Lauren. 244 00:09:22,605 --> 00:09:24,694 - Are you sneaking around with Zane? 245 00:09:24,781 --> 00:09:26,087 - No. - Okay, well, 246 00:09:26,174 --> 00:09:27,392 you're sneaking around with someone. 247 00:09:27,479 --> 00:09:30,570 - I am not sneaking. 248 00:09:30,657 --> 00:09:32,484 I went out with a guy, and it's nothing, 249 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:34,356 and if it turns into something, 250 00:09:34,443 --> 00:09:35,966 I will let you know. 251 00:09:36,053 --> 00:09:37,577 - Boundaries, okay. Not quite sure why 252 00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:39,361 best friends need those, but fine. 253 00:09:39,448 --> 00:09:41,058 [sniffs] You made out. 254 00:09:41,145 --> 00:09:43,757 - [gasps] Do not sniff me. 255 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,238 Alexa, turn off the lights. 256 00:09:49,023 --> 00:09:51,068 [chiming] 257 00:09:51,155 --> 00:09:53,375 - Okay, literally, keeping me in the dark. 258 00:09:53,462 --> 00:09:54,419 Cute. 259 00:09:54,506 --> 00:09:57,379 [jazzy music] 260 00:09:58,902 --> 00:10:01,252 - These two have such distinct voices, 261 00:10:01,339 --> 00:10:03,211 but they weave together seamlessly. 262 00:10:03,298 --> 00:10:04,691 - I know. 263 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:06,518 - It speaks to their talent. 264 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:09,173 - It probably also speaks to a good relationship. 265 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:10,784 It's like that saying, 266 00:10:10,871 --> 00:10:13,395 "a good marriage is like a casserole, 267 00:10:13,482 --> 00:10:18,095 only those responsible for it, knows what goes in." 268 00:10:18,182 --> 00:10:20,445 - The old casserole saying, 269 00:10:20,532 --> 00:10:21,751 how could I forget? - Oh, come on, 270 00:10:21,838 --> 00:10:24,362 I love quotes and sayings. 271 00:10:24,449 --> 00:10:27,757 I had notebooks dedicated to them when I was a kid, 272 00:10:27,844 --> 00:10:30,281 and teen and maybe young adult. 273 00:10:30,368 --> 00:10:32,588 - Wow. - Stop. 274 00:10:32,675 --> 00:10:34,546 - All this time, I thought you might have been popular. 275 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:37,288 - Well, it's never too late to be what you might have been. 276 00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:39,073 That's George Eliot. 277 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,598 - That's good. You believe that's true? 278 00:10:42,685 --> 00:10:43,904 - Yes. 279 00:10:45,906 --> 00:10:47,472 - I think about finishing my book a lot. 280 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:51,520 Going upstate and just writing. 281 00:10:51,607 --> 00:10:54,044 But I keep coming up with excuses not to. 282 00:10:54,131 --> 00:10:56,656 - Well, stop doing that. - [chuckles] 283 00:10:58,222 --> 00:11:00,485 All right, what do we have so far? 284 00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:04,141 - So far, I've just told them what we love about the pages. 285 00:11:04,228 --> 00:11:06,404 - So, maybe we just do that. 286 00:11:06,491 --> 00:11:08,972 And we just tell them what we love and 287 00:11:09,059 --> 00:11:10,931 what we're excited to see more of. 288 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:12,976 - I know, I mean, these are two professionals. 289 00:11:13,063 --> 00:11:14,935 They're editing each other as they go. 290 00:11:15,022 --> 00:11:17,589 - Yeah, and I'm sure that they just want to work with people 291 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:21,158 they get along with and who share their vision. 292 00:11:21,245 --> 00:11:23,465 - And that's us. - Yeah. 293 00:11:25,162 --> 00:11:27,077 We work well together, you know that? 294 00:11:27,164 --> 00:11:28,905 - Yeah, I do. 295 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:32,039 - Getting late. 296 00:11:32,126 --> 00:11:34,215 - According to your fancy new timepiece. 297 00:11:34,302 --> 00:11:37,044 - Yeah, well, you gotta hand it to the Swiss, they-- 298 00:11:37,131 --> 00:11:38,915 Know how to make a watch. 299 00:11:39,002 --> 00:11:42,049 And cuckoo clocks. 300 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:43,877 - Ha. 301 00:11:45,922 --> 00:11:48,664 - You should go, I can send the email out for both of us. 302 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:50,579 - Yeah. [clears throat] 303 00:11:50,666 --> 00:11:52,407 [melancholy music] 304 00:11:52,494 --> 00:11:54,409 - Here, I'll just-- 305 00:11:54,496 --> 00:11:58,021 - ♪ So sad, so sad ♪ 306 00:11:58,108 --> 00:12:01,633 ♪ Gone and lost the best thing I ever had ♪ 307 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:05,899 ♪ And you know, you know that I'm sorry ♪ 308 00:12:05,986 --> 00:12:08,989 - [sighs] 309 00:12:10,642 --> 00:12:14,037 - ♪ Hey, hey ♪ 310 00:12:14,124 --> 00:12:15,952 ♪ Hey ♪ 311 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,650 ♪ ♪ 312 00:12:18,738 --> 00:12:22,002 ♪ Hey, hey ♪ 313 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:27,355 - Hey, Miller, you had breakfast? 314 00:12:27,442 --> 00:12:29,226 ♪ ♪ 315 00:12:29,313 --> 00:12:33,187 - ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪ 316 00:12:33,274 --> 00:12:34,841 ♪ Hey ♪ 317 00:12:34,928 --> 00:12:36,494 - Look at us, 318 00:12:36,581 --> 00:12:38,801 couple of OGs with our plain cake donuts, 319 00:12:38,888 --> 00:12:41,978 no frills, no fuss, just getting down to business. 320 00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:44,938 - What is the business you want to get down to, Quinn? 321 00:12:45,025 --> 00:12:47,375 And I actually asked for sprinkles, but they were out. 322 00:12:47,462 --> 00:12:49,769 - Bummer. Look, I'm gonna be honest with you. 323 00:12:49,856 --> 00:12:53,337 My experience with relationships is not great. 324 00:12:53,424 --> 00:12:55,209 They tend to go sideways pretty early on. 325 00:12:55,296 --> 00:12:57,733 - You're kidding me. - But with Charles, 326 00:12:57,820 --> 00:13:00,562 things are actually going really well. 327 00:13:00,649 --> 00:13:02,346 And I don't want to do anything to mess it up, 328 00:13:02,433 --> 00:13:06,176 or get messed up by it, so I need you to tell me-- 329 00:13:06,263 --> 00:13:08,700 Are there any red flags I'm missing? 330 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,920 If you loved Charles, and he proposed to you, 331 00:13:11,007 --> 00:13:12,574 then why aren't you married? 332 00:13:12,661 --> 00:13:14,532 - There is nothing wrong with Charles. 333 00:13:14,619 --> 00:13:16,578 You don't have to worry. 334 00:13:16,665 --> 00:13:18,580 Marriage was just something I didn't want to do again. 335 00:13:18,667 --> 00:13:19,624 That's it. 336 00:13:19,711 --> 00:13:21,670 - So, you ended things? 337 00:13:21,757 --> 00:13:23,977 - No, he did. 338 00:13:24,064 --> 00:13:25,805 - If there's one red flag to report, 339 00:13:25,892 --> 00:13:28,677 it's that Charles has 340 00:13:28,764 --> 00:13:31,114 rigid ideas about how things should be. 341 00:13:31,201 --> 00:13:34,639 - He must have been so surprised when you said no. 342 00:13:34,726 --> 00:13:36,816 Marriage makes perfect sense for somebody like you. 343 00:13:36,903 --> 00:13:38,382 Somebody wants to marry me, 344 00:13:38,469 --> 00:13:40,515 they have to sign a prenup as thick as a phonebook. 345 00:13:40,602 --> 00:13:41,864 - I thought marriage was something you felt like 346 00:13:41,951 --> 00:13:43,692 you missed out on? - No. 347 00:13:43,779 --> 00:13:46,608 No, I don't want to disclose my tax returns. 348 00:13:46,695 --> 00:13:48,610 A legal contract for business, I understand, 349 00:13:48,697 --> 00:13:50,438 but in the bedroom, it's such a turn-off. 350 00:13:50,525 --> 00:13:52,266 The minute I am legally bound to something, 351 00:13:52,353 --> 00:13:53,745 I want to get out of there. 352 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:57,662 - Not Charles. Marriage is really important to him. 353 00:13:57,749 --> 00:14:02,058 - Mm, a man in the business of books likes tradition. 354 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:04,104 I should have seen this coming. 355 00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:07,977 [sighs] Well, thank you for your honesty, Liza. 356 00:14:08,064 --> 00:14:09,500 - I guess we're not that different after all. 357 00:14:09,587 --> 00:14:11,154 - Yeah. 358 00:14:11,241 --> 00:14:12,764 Give or take a billion. 359 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:15,811 - ♪ Oh it's poison and wine ♪ 360 00:14:15,898 --> 00:14:18,770 ♪ It's pouring rain I've got to feel the vibe ♪ 361 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:20,816 ♪ Oh ♪ 362 00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:22,600 - Ready to get your booster shot today or what, baby girl? 363 00:14:22,687 --> 00:14:24,907 - I'm not. Thanks for coming with us. 364 00:14:24,994 --> 00:14:27,823 - Yeah, of course. [grunt] All right. 365 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:30,130 Got your jacket-- [laughs] 366 00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:32,219 Where did this thing come from? 367 00:14:32,306 --> 00:14:35,135 - Huh. I don't know. 368 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:37,441 - That reminds me of Rob. 369 00:14:37,528 --> 00:14:38,965 - Do I need to shut her ears for this story? 370 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:41,271 - He had a box at Madison Square Garden. 371 00:14:41,358 --> 00:14:43,404 He loves hockey. 372 00:14:43,491 --> 00:14:45,536 we went to games there all the time. 373 00:14:45,623 --> 00:14:47,799 He even let entertain some clients from work there 374 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:49,018 after we broke up. 375 00:14:50,063 --> 00:14:51,238 He had his good moments. 376 00:14:51,325 --> 00:14:53,457 - Yeah, that, uh, sounds like it. 377 00:14:53,544 --> 00:14:55,764 - Oh, yeah--except when he dumps you, right? 378 00:14:55,851 --> 00:14:58,375 - Yeah, that is an excellent point, you know. 379 00:14:58,462 --> 00:14:59,637 How many good moments does it take to 380 00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:01,509 make a good person, right, or a bad person? 381 00:15:01,596 --> 00:15:03,511 I mean, how do you measure-- 382 00:15:03,598 --> 00:15:05,034 ♪ Measure a life ♪ 383 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:06,296 What do you think, Kels? 384 00:15:06,383 --> 00:15:08,951 - I don't know. We're gonna be late. 385 00:15:09,038 --> 00:15:10,170 Good luck, Gemma! 386 00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:12,999 - Bye. - Kelsey? 387 00:15:13,347 --> 00:15:15,262 You are seeing Rob. 388 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:16,872 And that big old finger gave you away. 389 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:18,439 - So what? 390 00:15:18,526 --> 00:15:19,831 Claire and Rob aren't together, 391 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,921 he is an available, single person. 392 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:24,010 - And, have you asked Claire how she feels about that? 393 00:15:24,097 --> 00:15:26,316 - I'm not that close with Claire, so I haven't. 394 00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:28,101 - Ha, well, had you not fallen asleep during "Chernobyl," 395 00:15:28,188 --> 00:15:29,189 you'd know that you don't need 396 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:30,451 to be that close to be affected. 397 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:31,756 - Here we go with "Chernobyl" again. 398 00:15:31,843 --> 00:15:34,672 - Listen, Claire is Chernobyl, okay. 399 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:37,066 And you, you're not Kiev, you're not even Moscow, 400 00:15:37,153 --> 00:15:38,415 all right, you are a moose, 401 00:15:38,502 --> 00:15:40,548 grazing in a forest in northern Sweden. 402 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:42,376 But the break up is in the air, okay? 403 00:15:42,463 --> 00:15:44,508 And it is travelling. 404 00:15:44,595 --> 00:15:46,336 - Okay. 405 00:15:46,423 --> 00:15:48,904 - And now it's on the grass that you're eating. 406 00:15:48,991 --> 00:15:51,994 Oh-oh, is that a blister on your hoof? 407 00:15:54,562 --> 00:15:56,216 - I'll tell Rob that I can't see him. 408 00:15:56,303 --> 00:15:57,478 - Kelsey, you will text him. 409 00:15:59,132 --> 00:16:02,004 [phone buzzing] 410 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:08,054 - He didn't say what he wanted? - No. 411 00:16:08,141 --> 00:16:10,056 But this place is fancy, so I'm assuming 412 00:16:10,143 --> 00:16:12,493 he's trying to dull our senses with ambience, 413 00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:15,017 and then pitch us something we hate. 414 00:16:15,104 --> 00:16:18,151 - Hello, Rose, Dorothy. 415 00:16:18,238 --> 00:16:20,414 So what's our plan? - We're not ordering food. 416 00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:21,545 - Great, so I'll get right down to it. 417 00:16:21,632 --> 00:16:23,983 I'll admit, I sent around that Inkubator article 418 00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:25,419 when it first popped into my feed 419 00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:27,464 and laughed with some friends, 420 00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:31,077 but it turns out you found someone special. 421 00:16:31,164 --> 00:16:33,557 I love Dylan, 422 00:16:33,644 --> 00:16:36,473 she's like the Korean Amy Tan. 423 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,474 Let's schedule a meeting. 424 00:16:37,561 --> 00:16:39,041 - With Dylan Park? 425 00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:40,912 - No, Dylan McDermott, what's he up to? 426 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,653 - We don't feel comfortable talking about 427 00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:44,699 Dylan's career without her present. 428 00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:46,918 - Yeah, that's why 429 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:48,572 I wanted to have a meeting with her. 430 00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:50,313 - She's not taking meetings with agents. 431 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,186 - Why? - Uh, you'd have to ask her. 432 00:16:53,273 --> 00:16:59,192 - I would love to. What--why are we doing this radio play? 433 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,064 What are you two hiding? - Nothing. 434 00:17:02,151 --> 00:17:06,721 ♪ ♪ 435 00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:09,332 - You didn't release a writer into the wild 436 00:17:09,419 --> 00:17:11,291 without signing her first, did you? 437 00:17:11,378 --> 00:17:13,380 - No, why would we ever do that? 438 00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,469 - Because you don't have any money. 439 00:17:15,556 --> 00:17:17,645 Do you not have any money? 440 00:17:17,732 --> 00:17:20,909 Is Inkubator some sort of literary sweatshop? 441 00:17:20,996 --> 00:17:23,259 - No. [scoffs] 442 00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:26,523 No, Inkubator-- well, it's a pun, 443 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:30,179 but, it describes exactly what it is. 444 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:31,963 - [laughter] So you two get 445 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:34,270 all the publicity for your little side hustle, 446 00:17:34,357 --> 00:17:36,925 while you lure in new talent to your stable. 447 00:17:37,012 --> 00:17:38,492 Shame on you both. 448 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:41,234 My girl needs to get paid. 449 00:17:41,321 --> 00:17:42,365 - Your girl? [laughter] 450 00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,933 - Someone has to look out for her. 451 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:48,197 I know I can get Dylan a deal for that book. 452 00:17:48,284 --> 00:17:51,070 So either you cut me in, or I'll cut you out. 453 00:17:52,767 --> 00:17:54,290 Too-da-loo, kangaroo. 454 00:17:57,641 --> 00:18:01,689 - [sighs] What an operator. 455 00:18:01,776 --> 00:18:05,649 - We cannot lose Dylan. - No, I know. 456 00:18:05,736 --> 00:18:07,390 I know! 457 00:18:07,477 --> 00:18:09,131 [upbeat music] 458 00:18:09,218 --> 00:18:10,959 - ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 459 00:18:11,046 --> 00:18:13,222 ♪ Just breaking down the walls again ♪ 460 00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:15,224 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 461 00:18:15,311 --> 00:18:17,835 ♪ Tell me I can't ♪ 462 00:18:17,922 --> 00:18:24,842 ♪ ♪ 463 00:18:26,366 --> 00:18:27,280 - Liza. - Oh, hey, 464 00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:28,498 I was looking for you. 465 00:18:28,585 --> 00:18:29,978 - I was looking for you, too. 466 00:18:30,065 --> 00:18:32,023 Jonah and Susan's office called and left word, 467 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:33,677 and I wanted to wait for you to call 'em back. 468 00:18:33,764 --> 00:18:37,072 ♪ ♪ 469 00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,421 - You're too late. 470 00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:41,207 - No, you're not. We love your notes. 471 00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:43,339 We want you to edit the book. 472 00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:46,125 - Great! - That is great news. 473 00:18:46,212 --> 00:18:48,083 - So we're up in Bronxville during the week 474 00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:50,868 when Jonah teaches at Sarah Lawrence. 475 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:52,696 We'd love you to come for dinner tomorrow night. 476 00:18:52,783 --> 00:18:55,221 - Susan will cook something fabulous. 477 00:18:55,308 --> 00:18:58,659 And, you know, we can talk specifics. 478 00:18:58,746 --> 00:19:00,487 - Uh, I think we can manage that. 479 00:19:00,574 --> 00:19:03,011 - Yeah, uh, we'll see the two of you tomorrow. 480 00:19:03,098 --> 00:19:04,752 - Great. - Yeah. 481 00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:08,016 - We got it! - Oh, we got it. 482 00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:09,496 - Oh! 483 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:14,414 - Uh, that might cost us everything that we have, 484 00:19:14,501 --> 00:19:18,287 but this is exactly the kind of book we wanted. 485 00:19:18,374 --> 00:19:20,463 - Right. Established, promotable writers. 486 00:19:22,857 --> 00:19:25,686 - Oh. Liza, this is really good. 487 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:31,779 What did you wanna talk to me about? 488 00:19:31,866 --> 00:19:32,954 - Nothing. 489 00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:37,915 [upbeat music] 490 00:19:38,002 --> 00:19:39,352 - ♪ I got what you want ♪ 491 00:19:39,439 --> 00:19:41,876 ♪ ♪ 492 00:19:41,963 --> 00:19:43,051 ♪ I got what you want ♪ 493 00:19:43,138 --> 00:19:45,401 [phone chimes] 494 00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:47,534 ♪ Yeah, I got what you want ♪ 495 00:19:47,621 --> 00:19:51,494 ♪ I got what you want, and you won't believe your eyes ♪ 496 00:19:51,581 --> 00:19:52,539 [knock at door] 497 00:19:52,626 --> 00:19:54,280 - Morning. - Hey. 498 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:55,542 [message sends] Come in. 499 00:19:57,457 --> 00:19:58,327 All right, I was up all night thinking about 500 00:19:58,414 --> 00:19:59,937 this Dylan situation. 501 00:20:00,024 --> 00:20:02,244 - I never should have given her work to "Vulture." 502 00:20:02,331 --> 00:20:04,159 It was so stupid. - No. 503 00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:06,379 No, it forced us to get our asses into gear. 504 00:20:06,466 --> 00:20:07,641 Sit down. - I love it 505 00:20:07,728 --> 00:20:09,164 when you talk like a football coach. 506 00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:11,514 - "Millennial" was a big money maker. 507 00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:13,299 We took this company into the black, 508 00:20:13,386 --> 00:20:15,475 and apparently we need to remind everybody of that. 509 00:20:15,562 --> 00:20:17,303 - Apparently, we do. 510 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:18,826 - So here's what I'm thinking. 511 00:20:18,913 --> 00:20:21,698 We take Inkubator online and monetize it. 512 00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:25,528 So we keep giving chapters to "Vulture" until the very end, 513 00:20:25,615 --> 00:20:27,922 and then if people wanna finish the book, 514 00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:30,925 they have to pay to download the app that we create. 515 00:20:31,012 --> 00:20:34,494 - One question: How do we make an app? 516 00:20:34,581 --> 00:20:36,452 - I don't know, but I've also never 517 00:20:36,539 --> 00:20:38,324 bound a book by hand before. 518 00:20:38,411 --> 00:20:40,239 - I did once. - [laughs] 519 00:20:40,326 --> 00:20:43,111 - But I get your point. We outsource. 520 00:20:43,198 --> 00:20:46,593 - Exactly. And "Vulture" has over 22.9 million 521 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,029 monthly unique visitors. 522 00:20:48,116 --> 00:20:50,814 And over half of their readership is female. 523 00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:52,686 I know those readers better than Charles. 524 00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:54,514 I know that they will follow Dylan 525 00:20:54,601 --> 00:20:56,167 to that app and buy the book. 526 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:58,126 - Okay, but all of this is going to cost money. 527 00:20:58,213 --> 00:20:59,823 And like Redmond said, 528 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:01,695 Dylan could take that book anywhere now. 529 00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:04,132 She's gonna want an advance. - I know. 530 00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:05,829 I'm gonna use the money that I have saved 531 00:21:05,916 --> 00:21:07,657 for a down payment on an apartment. 532 00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:09,224 - Kelsey, you can't do that. 533 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:11,661 Let's just ask Charles for the money 534 00:21:11,748 --> 00:21:14,360 to try a proof of concept for this app. 535 00:21:14,447 --> 00:21:16,231 Like a pilot program. - No. 536 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,712 I'm done asking. 537 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,627 I was publisher here once, okay. 538 00:21:20,714 --> 00:21:22,846 I know what I'm talking about. 539 00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:24,631 We keep shouting at Charles 540 00:21:24,718 --> 00:21:25,893 that Dylan is a good investment, 541 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:27,373 but we have to show him, and when we do, 542 00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:29,244 Empirical will pay me back. 543 00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:31,246 - Okay. 544 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:35,076 - I believe in Dylan. 545 00:21:35,163 --> 00:21:36,338 - I believe in you. 546 00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:39,341 [light music] 547 00:21:39,428 --> 00:21:43,563 ♪ ♪ 548 00:21:58,012 --> 00:22:02,712 ♪ ♪ 549 00:22:10,154 --> 00:22:15,464 ♪ ♪ 550 00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:19,250 - All right. [laughs] 551 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:23,690 Now, for starters, we have bacon and cheddar toast, 552 00:22:23,777 --> 00:22:25,953 followed by spaghetti with ramps 553 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,738 and an apple galette for dessert. 554 00:22:28,825 --> 00:22:31,524 - And the 2015 Gevrey Chambertin. 555 00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:33,221 I hope you like burgundy. 556 00:22:33,308 --> 00:22:35,441 - Mm. To a new relationship. - Hey. 557 00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,921 - And an old relationship. [laughs] 558 00:22:38,008 --> 00:22:40,228 - Cheers. Thank you. 559 00:22:40,315 --> 00:22:41,316 - Ooh! - So, Susan, 560 00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:44,319 I have quite an ask, 561 00:22:44,406 --> 00:22:47,366 but could you tell me the secret to your grilled cheese? 562 00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:49,716 - I'm sorry, you have a famous grilled cheese? 563 00:22:49,803 --> 00:22:51,674 - It was on the cover of "Food and Wine." 564 00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:54,111 But it beat out Thomas Keller's Branzino. 565 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:56,375 It was--whoa. - And almost every celebrity 566 00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:58,464 did a TikTok trying to make it. 567 00:22:58,551 --> 00:23:00,291 - All right. Are you ready? 568 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,945 - Yes! [laughter] 569 00:23:02,032 --> 00:23:03,991 - I put a little mayonnaise on the bread, 570 00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:06,602 and I grate some cheese on that mayonnaise. 571 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,866 - That's how you get the crispy shell? 572 00:23:09,953 --> 00:23:11,868 - Yeah. If you call that shell a tuile, 573 00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:14,480 and liken it to lace on a wedding gown, 574 00:23:14,567 --> 00:23:16,525 and don't mention the mayonnaise, 575 00:23:16,612 --> 00:23:19,354 that grilled cheese gets to be on the cover of "Food and Wine." 576 00:23:19,441 --> 00:23:21,269 - Oh. - Wow. 577 00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,663 - That is a good segue. - Wait, what is? 578 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:25,882 - Hiding the mayonnaise. - Oh, God. 579 00:23:25,969 --> 00:23:27,797 - Well, my interest is piqued. 580 00:23:27,884 --> 00:23:30,365 We wanna publish our book under a pen name. 581 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:33,237 - Wait, what? - Serita Consemint. 582 00:23:33,324 --> 00:23:36,110 - Wow, that's got quite a flourish to it, doesn't it? 583 00:23:36,197 --> 00:23:37,764 - Is there a reason why? 584 00:23:37,851 --> 00:23:40,070 - Serita was the name of my great aunt-- 585 00:23:40,157 --> 00:23:42,812 - No, no, is there why you don't wanna publish 586 00:23:42,899 --> 00:23:44,335 under your own names? 587 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:46,163 - Well, there's the mystery. 588 00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:47,643 And it's great for the marketing. 589 00:23:47,730 --> 00:23:49,428 "Who is Serita Consemint?" 590 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:51,342 Like Elena Ferrante. 591 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:55,129 - The two of you don't need a gimmick to sell your books. 592 00:23:55,216 --> 00:23:57,827 And you should be proud of your work. 593 00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,873 - We are proud of it. - Most of it. 594 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,441 - He wanted to put in a torture scene. 595 00:24:02,528 --> 00:24:03,920 - Yeah. - I said no. 596 00:24:04,007 --> 00:24:06,619 - The book--regardless of what name is on it-- 597 00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:08,969 will be a success. 598 00:24:09,056 --> 00:24:11,667 The way you wrote together was inspired. 599 00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:14,148 - Yeah, of course the book will sell, 600 00:24:14,235 --> 00:24:18,500 I just don't think that people like being lied to. 601 00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:22,417 - Right, but, you know, that's what storytelling is. 602 00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:26,377 Right, it's lying to entertain. 603 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:29,642 - And I don't disagree, but save it for the story. 604 00:24:29,729 --> 00:24:31,600 When that bleeds into real life, 605 00:24:31,687 --> 00:24:35,386 then I think people just feel manipulated. 606 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:39,086 - Well, we appreciate your thoughts on this, 607 00:24:39,173 --> 00:24:42,263 but we're set on publishing through a pen name. 608 00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:44,961 - Well, if you all are set on that, 609 00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:48,835 then I'm afraid you'll have to find a different publisher, 610 00:24:48,922 --> 00:24:51,925 [somber music] 611 00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:53,622 All right. [chuckles] 612 00:24:53,709 --> 00:24:56,843 Let's make our way over to the table for the main course. 613 00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:58,758 We wouldn't want those ramps to wilt. 614 00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:05,460 ♪ ♪ 615 00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:08,028 - That was awkward. 616 00:25:08,115 --> 00:25:12,467 But, uh, I do feel like it was the right call. 617 00:25:12,554 --> 00:25:14,077 - Why are you so stubborn? 618 00:25:14,164 --> 00:25:16,906 - Excuse me? - You loved them. 619 00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:19,039 - Jonah was an idol of yours. 620 00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:21,520 Why cares if they wanna publish under a pen name? 621 00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:24,044 - [scoffs] - My God. 622 00:25:24,131 --> 00:25:27,438 It's gotta be your terms, or it just doesn't work. 623 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:28,788 - That is not true. 624 00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:30,833 - Are you kidding me? 625 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,357 - We're not together because all of a sudden, 626 00:25:33,444 --> 00:25:35,359 you needed to be married. 627 00:25:35,446 --> 00:25:37,536 We never even talked about marriage. 628 00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,842 - It wasn't all of a sudden. 629 00:25:39,929 --> 00:25:41,844 - All of a sudden you asked me, 630 00:25:41,931 --> 00:25:43,977 and all of a sudden we're over. 631 00:25:44,064 --> 00:25:48,503 - I wanted to know that you really loved me. 632 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:51,550 I wanted to have all of you. 633 00:25:51,637 --> 00:25:53,334 - You did have all of me. 634 00:25:57,904 --> 00:25:59,296 Oh, my God. You don't believe me. 635 00:26:01,037 --> 00:26:04,127 - Can you blame me? 636 00:26:04,214 --> 00:26:05,825 - I wish I didn't love you. 637 00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:12,179 - Liza. 638 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:16,052 What are you doing? - I'm ordering an Uber. 639 00:26:16,139 --> 00:26:17,750 - Three minutes. You don't have to wait. 640 00:26:17,837 --> 00:26:20,187 ♪ ♪ 641 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:21,754 [sighs] 642 00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:29,849 ♪ ♪ 643 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:42,513 [upbeat music] 644 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:49,782 ♪ ♪ 645 00:26:51,479 --> 00:26:54,482 - Hey. I don't have a title for it yet, 646 00:26:54,569 --> 00:26:57,224 but, you know, it's all about the perception of truth-- 647 00:26:57,311 --> 00:27:00,357 what you see when you look at another person. 648 00:27:00,444 --> 00:27:03,534 Is it who they really are-- - Or is it who they were 649 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,406 at that moment in time? 650 00:27:05,493 --> 00:27:07,495 - [chuckles] Yeah. 651 00:27:07,582 --> 00:27:09,410 Something like that. 652 00:27:09,497 --> 00:27:12,543 But those tweets were never what they said I was. 653 00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,545 [light music] 654 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:17,287 Are you okay? 655 00:27:17,374 --> 00:27:20,769 Oh! 656 00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:23,859 - ♪ Baby, you have the key ♪ 657 00:27:23,946 --> 00:27:25,905 ♪ To open the door ♪ 658 00:27:25,992 --> 00:27:28,472 ♪ And let me out ♪ 659 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:33,216 ♪ Maybe you and I can leave this behind ♪ 660 00:27:33,303 --> 00:27:36,219 ♪ Once and for all ♪ 661 00:27:37,307 --> 00:27:40,267 [jazzy music playing] 662 00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:42,704 - [gasps] 663 00:27:42,791 --> 00:27:45,925 You came. 664 00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:46,795 - Dinner ended a little early. 665 00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:50,233 - Everything okay? 666 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,759 - Yeah. But we are not doing the book. 667 00:27:53,846 --> 00:27:56,413 - Oh. Why not? 668 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,242 - The authors don't wanna publish under their own names. 669 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:03,899 They wanna do some gimmicky pen name thing. 670 00:28:03,986 --> 00:28:06,597 So I said no. 671 00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:10,384 Maybe I'm too stubborn. 672 00:28:10,471 --> 00:28:12,081 - Mm. 673 00:28:12,168 --> 00:28:14,867 For the record, I would've said yes. 674 00:28:17,478 --> 00:28:18,697 - To the book? 675 00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:20,437 - To you. 676 00:28:20,524 --> 00:28:23,397 [upbeat music] 677 00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:30,404 ♪ ♪ 678 00:28:39,195 --> 00:28:41,154 [energetic music] 679 00:28:43,199 --> 00:28:44,548 - Clare. 680 00:28:44,635 --> 00:28:47,247 - You guys have been so supportive since-- 681 00:28:47,334 --> 00:28:48,552 well, we don't need to say his name. 682 00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:50,598 - No, we do not. 683 00:28:50,685 --> 00:28:52,426 With Rob, it's just uncomplicated. 684 00:28:52,513 --> 00:28:54,167 - Mm-hmm, except it's not. 685 00:28:54,254 --> 00:28:55,777 - I have gotten several phone calls 686 00:28:55,864 --> 00:28:57,736 about Empirical's new start-up. 687 00:28:57,823 --> 00:28:59,389 - This is huge, Kels! 688 00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:01,783 Do whatever makes you happy. That's all I want. 689 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:04,873 - You are a remarkable woman, Liza Miller. 690 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,006 [ambient music] 691 00:29:07,093 --> 00:29:09,182 [notification chimes] - What's going on? 692 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:10,183 ♪ ♪ 693 00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:22,935 ♪ ♪