1 00:01:36,790 --> 00:01:38,125 We've all heard that thing 2 00:01:38,208 --> 00:01:40,502 about the butterfly flapping its wings in Africa, 3 00:01:40,586 --> 00:01:44,006 and months later there's a hurricane in Miami. 4 00:01:44,089 --> 00:01:45,299 Well, if you haven't, look it up. 5 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:50,679 It means things you don't think are connected actually are. 6 00:02:01,607 --> 00:02:02,816 I never knew this girl. 7 00:02:05,277 --> 00:02:06,403 Never met her. 8 00:02:11,450 --> 00:02:12,993 This is the life she knew. 9 00:02:31,512 --> 00:02:33,847 And this is the life I knew. 10 00:02:41,563 --> 00:02:43,398 There I am. There's the kid. 11 00:02:43,482 --> 00:02:45,442 Did you just call yourself "the kid"? 12 00:02:45,526 --> 00:02:48,529 Wait, isn't this the game you fumbled three times in one quarter? 13 00:02:49,238 --> 00:02:51,907 This is also the game where I did this, motherfucker. 14 00:02:52,658 --> 00:02:55,702 You wouldn't think so, but it is all connected. 15 00:02:56,745 --> 00:02:59,164 These knuckleheads. That girl on the bike. 16 00:02:59,248 --> 00:03:02,584 Wait. Who's that streaking down the sideline? 17 00:03:02,668 --> 00:03:04,711 Kankakee's favorite son. 18 00:03:04,795 --> 00:03:06,672 Me, with my million-dollar smile. 19 00:03:06,755 --> 00:03:09,091 Owner of grad school records that still stand. 20 00:03:09,174 --> 00:03:12,427 Given not one, not two, but three fucking scholarship offers. 21 00:03:12,511 --> 00:03:13,929 Hey, it was four, actually. 22 00:03:16,723 --> 00:03:19,268 Christ, Jimmy, you really were something. 23 00:03:22,646 --> 00:03:24,022 What about me? 24 00:03:24,106 --> 00:03:25,858 Well, he made even you look good. 25 00:03:26,692 --> 00:03:28,610 Pride and joy of Kankakee. 26 00:03:32,197 --> 00:03:33,532 - See? - Okay. 27 00:03:34,032 --> 00:03:36,034 Try not to burn the place down, 28 00:03:36,118 --> 00:03:37,744 and remember to lock up this time. 29 00:03:37,828 --> 00:03:39,496 - Yeah. - Wait, what's with the pillow? 30 00:03:41,582 --> 00:03:42,791 Anybody heard from Danny? 31 00:03:47,546 --> 00:03:49,423 Here's the real play. Watch this shit. 32 00:03:49,506 --> 00:03:51,008 Right here. Right there. 33 00:03:51,091 --> 00:03:52,843 You fucking has-been pretty boy. 34 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,280 You know those times where you think something's gonna go one way, 35 00:04:14,156 --> 00:04:15,324 but it goes sideways? 36 00:04:18,493 --> 00:04:20,120 If I had to pick the moment, 37 00:04:21,205 --> 00:04:23,498 here's where it all started to go sideways for me. 38 00:04:25,876 --> 00:04:28,837 Like, for fucking ever. 39 00:04:44,645 --> 00:04:45,646 Hiya, Jimmy. 40 00:04:46,522 --> 00:04:47,981 - Hi, Rog. - Hop in. 41 00:04:48,565 --> 00:04:49,816 What's with the pillow? 42 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:53,237 Well, last time I saw you, you said you kept getting cricks in your neck. 43 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,321 I used to get 'em too. 44 00:04:54,404 --> 00:04:55,822 Discovered this pillow. 45 00:04:55,906 --> 00:04:57,407 Never got 'em again. 46 00:04:57,491 --> 00:05:02,246 You are the most profoundly considerate motherfucker I've ever met. 47 00:05:02,829 --> 00:05:04,164 I thank you, my good man. 48 00:05:04,248 --> 00:05:05,457 Put it in the back. 49 00:05:17,761 --> 00:05:19,346 What's with the orange shotgun? 50 00:05:20,138 --> 00:05:21,348 I got a shipment of bean bags. 51 00:05:21,431 --> 00:05:24,142 You know the kind cops fire at riots and shit? 52 00:05:24,226 --> 00:05:25,936 They trick the guns out with weird colors 53 00:05:26,019 --> 00:05:28,730 so they don't load live rounds during protests, 54 00:05:28,814 --> 00:05:29,857 kill some poor fucker 55 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:32,192 who's just asking to be treated like a human being. 56 00:05:34,945 --> 00:05:38,031 So appreciative you came in person to deal with this. That it-- 57 00:05:39,324 --> 00:05:40,826 Touches me in a deep place. 58 00:05:42,244 --> 00:05:44,204 I'm so sorry about that last shipment. 59 00:05:44,955 --> 00:05:46,039 Mistakes happen. 60 00:05:46,999 --> 00:05:49,334 Not a whole kilo, man. I've-- 61 00:05:51,086 --> 00:05:52,379 It's fucking embarrassing. 62 00:05:52,462 --> 00:05:54,214 I mean, I've never been light before. 63 00:05:54,798 --> 00:05:58,635 Not so much as a gram with anyone, ever. 64 00:05:59,678 --> 00:06:01,388 Why would I claim I got shorted? 65 00:06:02,139 --> 00:06:03,891 Hard to know a man's heart. 66 00:06:08,979 --> 00:06:10,189 Come on now. 67 00:06:25,329 --> 00:06:27,831 How did you know the shortage was on my end? 68 00:06:27,915 --> 00:06:31,293 I know because my guy told me. And I trust my guy, Danny. 69 00:06:31,793 --> 00:06:34,171 And why do you trust Danny, man? 70 00:06:34,254 --> 00:06:35,589 We grew up together. 71 00:06:37,841 --> 00:06:39,134 That's adorable. 72 00:06:45,349 --> 00:06:47,726 Jimmy. I'm sorry, Jim. 73 00:06:49,144 --> 00:06:51,146 - Danny. - Jimmy, I'm so sorry. 74 00:06:51,230 --> 00:06:52,397 What did you do? 75 00:06:53,690 --> 00:06:54,858 Tell him. 76 00:06:56,735 --> 00:06:58,111 Tell him. 77 00:07:00,572 --> 00:07:02,324 I stole your key, man. 78 00:07:02,908 --> 00:07:04,910 I needed to get right with Bern's people. 79 00:07:05,994 --> 00:07:07,204 We knew it wasn't us. 80 00:07:07,704 --> 00:07:09,748 I had no idea. 81 00:07:10,415 --> 00:07:11,416 He told me that. 82 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,252 No, Rog, no! 83 00:07:15,045 --> 00:07:16,588 - Okay. - Bean bag. 84 00:07:16,672 --> 00:07:19,466 Okay, he clipped the key. 85 00:07:20,384 --> 00:07:22,636 Okay? Here's a key. 86 00:07:26,890 --> 00:07:28,350 And a second. 87 00:07:29,226 --> 00:07:30,811 For your trouble. 88 00:07:34,523 --> 00:07:35,524 No! 89 00:07:36,942 --> 00:07:38,402 Fuck, man! 90 00:07:39,403 --> 00:07:40,404 Okay. 91 00:07:40,487 --> 00:07:42,114 Not a bean bag. 92 00:07:42,698 --> 00:07:44,700 And a third for our friendship. 93 00:07:48,537 --> 00:07:50,289 You know, this isn't just about the money. 94 00:07:50,372 --> 00:07:53,083 Come on. Nothing's just about money, but they mostly are. 95 00:07:55,043 --> 00:07:56,170 He stole from me. 96 00:07:56,253 --> 00:07:59,173 No, he stole from me. I'd already paid you. 97 00:07:59,256 --> 00:08:02,509 I came here today to be compensated if there had been some kind of mistake, 98 00:08:02,593 --> 00:08:03,719 but there wasn't. 99 00:08:03,802 --> 00:08:06,054 Just this asshole stealing from me. 100 00:08:06,847 --> 00:08:08,849 - But blaming me. - No, I never blamed you. 101 00:08:08,932 --> 00:08:10,517 - I didn't-- - Shut the fuck up! 102 00:08:12,477 --> 00:08:17,983 Rog. This guy, I've known him since first grade. He's like family. 103 00:08:18,066 --> 00:08:19,985 Be like if you were asked to give up your own brother. 104 00:08:20,068 --> 00:08:21,403 No matter what, could you do it? 105 00:08:21,486 --> 00:08:22,988 You still have half the bag. 106 00:08:23,071 --> 00:08:25,115 My family would be worth the whole bag. 107 00:08:32,873 --> 00:08:35,125 I think we come from different types of family. 108 00:08:36,376 --> 00:08:38,587 So, you're saying his life is only worth three kilos? 109 00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:41,465 His life is worth three times what you lost, 110 00:08:41,548 --> 00:08:42,883 because you lost nothing! 111 00:08:42,966 --> 00:08:44,593 He's only worth three kilos? 112 00:08:44,676 --> 00:08:48,347 Yes! Okay, his life is only worth three kilos to me! 113 00:08:58,690 --> 00:09:04,279 All I ask of the people I do business with is their authentic self. 114 00:09:06,949 --> 00:09:08,158 Nice to see you, Jimmy. 115 00:09:10,744 --> 00:09:15,791 You can use the cart to transport that young rascal to the car. 116 00:10:22,149 --> 00:10:24,026 Have you had a look at the menu, sir? 117 00:10:28,071 --> 00:10:30,574 Jesus. No. I'm sorry… 118 00:10:32,993 --> 00:10:33,994 Rochelle. 119 00:10:37,623 --> 00:10:39,416 Could I get a water, please? 120 00:10:39,499 --> 00:10:41,877 And I'll have an answer for you by the time you're back? 121 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:42,961 Of course, sir. 122 00:10:44,463 --> 00:10:45,464 Jimmy. 123 00:10:47,466 --> 00:10:48,592 Of course, Jimmy. 124 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:02,105 Yeah. 125 00:12:02,124 --> 00:12:04,251 Hands, motherfucker! Hands! 126 00:12:09,798 --> 00:12:11,049 You smiling now, bitch? 127 00:12:21,643 --> 00:12:23,020 Can I get up now, please? 128 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,897 You just lie there and take it. 129 00:12:26,398 --> 00:12:27,441 We're clear. 130 00:12:27,524 --> 00:12:28,525 Turn it off. 131 00:12:35,699 --> 00:12:38,452 Damn, Jimbo. What you get up to last night? 132 00:12:43,332 --> 00:12:45,083 You even know her name? 133 00:12:45,167 --> 00:12:46,251 Rochelle. 134 00:12:48,378 --> 00:12:49,546 Her last name? 135 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:03,393 Planning to shoot up a local middle school? 136 00:13:03,477 --> 00:13:04,728 That's federal. 137 00:13:11,068 --> 00:13:12,402 Fuck is this, Jimbo? 138 00:13:13,570 --> 00:13:15,656 Jimmy. It's an AK-47. 139 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,200 It's a "no possibility of reduced sentence." 140 00:13:18,784 --> 00:13:19,993 I got great lawyers. 141 00:13:24,289 --> 00:13:25,666 They turn water into wine? 142 00:13:35,217 --> 00:13:37,719 Hey! You got a visitor. 143 00:13:45,143 --> 00:13:46,228 Window one! 144 00:13:46,311 --> 00:13:47,896 They tried that last time… 145 00:13:48,897 --> 00:13:51,233 Keene. Next up, window two. 146 00:14:06,915 --> 00:14:08,125 Window three, you're up. 147 00:14:08,208 --> 00:14:09,293 You okay? 148 00:14:11,044 --> 00:14:12,838 Did your mother come visit you yet? 149 00:14:12,921 --> 00:14:16,216 She's still pissed I got Tim mixed up in that thing a while back. 150 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:20,137 Well… at least your brother's gonna walk. 151 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:23,682 I'm not? 152 00:14:24,183 --> 00:14:26,226 I talked to some of the guys. 153 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:31,273 They said the prosecutor, Beaumont, he's trying to prove something with you. 154 00:14:32,566 --> 00:14:33,567 Prove what? 155 00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:35,777 That he's not part of the machine. 156 00:14:35,861 --> 00:14:37,738 I'm not part of the machine. 157 00:14:38,780 --> 00:14:40,073 I was. 158 00:14:41,283 --> 00:14:42,618 My family. 159 00:14:43,285 --> 00:14:45,204 Your mother's family. 160 00:14:46,705 --> 00:14:48,457 Tell me there's a way out of this. 161 00:14:48,540 --> 00:14:49,708 Not a quick one. 162 00:14:50,501 --> 00:14:51,919 Window four, that's it. 163 00:14:52,002 --> 00:14:53,754 You'll get five years. 164 00:14:54,338 --> 00:14:55,380 Five-- 165 00:14:56,048 --> 00:14:57,799 Four with good behavior. 166 00:14:57,883 --> 00:15:00,928 The low end of the sentencing guidelines is 167 00:15:01,011 --> 00:15:04,348 if you take the plea, you get two years. 168 00:15:05,432 --> 00:15:07,518 They're not gonna give you two years. 169 00:15:08,936 --> 00:15:10,229 Why not? 170 00:15:10,312 --> 00:15:11,355 The guns. 171 00:15:12,064 --> 00:15:17,528 You're not some homey who's running around capping grandmothers, doing a drive-by. 172 00:15:17,611 --> 00:15:19,112 You didn't sell crack, right? 173 00:15:19,196 --> 00:15:22,074 You're a good kid who strayed off the path. 174 00:15:23,283 --> 00:15:25,536 You'll have to do the midrange. 175 00:15:27,037 --> 00:15:28,205 How do you know? 176 00:15:29,915 --> 00:15:32,376 I was a cop for 23 years. 177 00:15:33,293 --> 00:15:36,964 And I asked around, and they all said the same thing. 178 00:15:37,047 --> 00:15:39,383 Midrange of the guidelines. 179 00:15:40,092 --> 00:15:41,260 Five. 180 00:15:41,343 --> 00:15:42,427 Out in four. 181 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:44,721 I… 182 00:15:46,014 --> 00:15:48,433 I never wanted this for you. 183 00:15:51,061 --> 00:15:53,522 I wanted a totally different deal. 184 00:15:56,358 --> 00:15:57,484 Like what? 185 00:15:58,318 --> 00:15:59,444 Like I said. 186 00:15:59,528 --> 00:16:00,529 No. 187 00:16:01,071 --> 00:16:02,072 What? 188 00:16:02,573 --> 00:16:06,285 For you to have, 189 00:16:06,368 --> 00:16:07,369 you know… 190 00:16:07,452 --> 00:16:08,579 No, I don't. 191 00:16:10,497 --> 00:16:12,875 A wife. Kids. 192 00:16:13,584 --> 00:16:16,628 A fucking dog to play Frisbee with. 193 00:16:16,712 --> 00:16:19,006 And a steady paycheck. 194 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,175 Pension at the end. 195 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:23,760 I do-- 196 00:16:25,137 --> 00:16:26,305 I couldn't have… 197 00:16:27,681 --> 00:16:28,724 What? 198 00:16:30,642 --> 00:16:33,103 …helped you if I lived that life. 199 00:16:37,649 --> 00:16:39,902 I still wanted it for you. 200 00:16:47,201 --> 00:16:48,410 I know. 201 00:16:50,204 --> 00:16:51,455 I know you did, Dad. 202 00:16:55,542 --> 00:16:57,336 You just never mentioned it before. 203 00:16:58,837 --> 00:17:01,215 Four! Window four, all done. 204 00:17:01,924 --> 00:17:07,221 Take the deal. Okay? Plea out. 205 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:20,025 Okay. In the case of the United States versus James Keene… 206 00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:23,487 Mr. Beaumont, am I to understand 207 00:17:23,569 --> 00:17:26,698 that the defendant has entered into a plea agreement with your office? 208 00:17:27,866 --> 00:17:29,076 He has, Your Honor. 209 00:17:29,992 --> 00:17:31,078 And Mr. Steinbeck, 210 00:17:31,161 --> 00:17:34,080 is your client fully aware of what he's pleading to today? 211 00:17:35,207 --> 00:17:36,208 He is, Your Honor. 212 00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:39,711 Mr. Keene. 213 00:17:51,139 --> 00:17:52,641 Police officer's son, correct? 214 00:17:53,976 --> 00:17:55,227 Yes, sir. 215 00:17:56,019 --> 00:17:58,272 Star athlete at Kankakee High. 216 00:17:58,355 --> 00:18:01,441 I see you're quite generous with a few local charities. 217 00:18:02,442 --> 00:18:06,113 But what you're pleading guilty to today is the sale and trafficking of narcotics, 218 00:18:06,196 --> 00:18:08,657 the possession of paraphernalia associated with the same, 219 00:18:09,241 --> 00:18:12,369 and possession of multiple illegal firearms. 220 00:18:13,829 --> 00:18:16,456 So, how plead you? 221 00:18:17,875 --> 00:18:18,876 Guilty. 222 00:18:19,793 --> 00:18:22,713 The sheer amount of narcotics that you trafficked in, Mr. Keene, 223 00:18:22,796 --> 00:18:26,175 is enough to push your sentence to 25 years. 224 00:18:27,050 --> 00:18:29,553 Which you most certainly would have gotten at minimum 225 00:18:29,636 --> 00:18:31,305 if your case had gone to trial. 226 00:18:31,889 --> 00:18:34,391 But you did the smart thing today. You pled. 227 00:18:35,517 --> 00:18:37,686 Still, there are the weapons, which one presumes 228 00:18:37,769 --> 00:18:40,189 you were prepared to use against other human beings 229 00:18:40,272 --> 00:18:41,940 to protect your narcotics. 230 00:18:43,567 --> 00:18:45,194 Therefore, 231 00:18:45,277 --> 00:18:48,030 it is the judgment of the court the defendant be committed 232 00:18:48,113 --> 00:18:51,491 to the custody of the attorney general of the United States, 233 00:18:51,575 --> 00:18:53,493 or her authorized representative, 234 00:18:54,369 --> 00:18:57,664 for the minimum guideline term of 120 months. 235 00:19:01,460 --> 00:19:02,586 Bailiff. 236 00:19:04,546 --> 00:19:05,839 Ten years? 237 00:19:05,923 --> 00:19:08,926 Ten fucking years? Are you kidding me? 238 00:19:09,009 --> 00:19:11,929 You lied to me, Beaumont! You fucking lied to me! 239 00:19:34,159 --> 00:19:35,577 You know what this is about? 240 00:20:02,479 --> 00:20:03,647 On or off? 241 00:20:04,314 --> 00:20:05,315 Off. 242 00:20:17,786 --> 00:20:19,580 I'm Special Agent Lauren McCauley. 243 00:20:19,663 --> 00:20:21,456 You can call me that or Lauren. 244 00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:23,834 I remember you don't like "Jimbo." 245 00:20:24,626 --> 00:20:25,669 Jimmy, please. 246 00:20:27,004 --> 00:20:28,505 And you know Mr. Beaumont. 247 00:20:31,925 --> 00:20:35,512 Mr. Beaumont sandbagged me into accepting a five-year plea 248 00:20:35,596 --> 00:20:37,514 when he knew I'd get ten. 249 00:20:37,598 --> 00:20:38,807 So you remember it? 250 00:20:39,474 --> 00:20:41,268 No possibility of parole. 251 00:20:42,060 --> 00:20:43,353 Who takes that deal? 252 00:20:44,354 --> 00:20:45,355 You. 253 00:20:46,356 --> 00:20:47,566 You're a drug dealer. 254 00:20:48,775 --> 00:20:50,986 And you played chicken with us, and you lost. 255 00:20:52,446 --> 00:20:54,156 Embrace that concept. 256 00:20:54,781 --> 00:20:55,908 Now, sit down. 257 00:21:04,666 --> 00:21:06,627 I hear you're making a real go of prison. 258 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:08,337 No major beefs. 259 00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:10,631 Seem to get along with most of the dominant gangs 260 00:21:10,714 --> 00:21:13,008 and successfully avoid the ones you don't know yet. 261 00:21:13,091 --> 00:21:17,054 And… you've developed a sideline in here? 262 00:21:17,137 --> 00:21:18,305 No shit. 263 00:21:19,306 --> 00:21:20,307 That's in there? 264 00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:22,100 You use your profits to buy 265 00:21:23,769 --> 00:21:26,396 fresh vegetables and lean cuts of meat? 266 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,523 Prison food sucks. 267 00:21:27,606 --> 00:21:29,149 So does prison life, 268 00:21:29,233 --> 00:21:31,443 but you seem to have grabbed it by the balls. 269 00:21:33,237 --> 00:21:34,780 What is this sideline, by the way? 270 00:21:37,491 --> 00:21:38,617 Just a service. 271 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:40,285 He's so modest. 272 00:21:40,369 --> 00:21:41,912 You rent porno mags, right? 273 00:21:42,538 --> 00:21:46,291 Hustler. Penthouse. Barely Legal. 274 00:21:48,001 --> 00:21:49,086 How's that work? 275 00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:52,464 They pay for half-hour blocks. 276 00:21:53,423 --> 00:21:56,260 Must be a lot of-- What do they call it in retail? Breakage? 277 00:21:57,427 --> 00:21:59,221 I turn my inventory over a lot. 278 00:21:59,304 --> 00:22:02,391 That's what you called drugs too. Your "inventory." 279 00:22:02,933 --> 00:22:04,309 At least on the tapes I heard. 280 00:22:08,939 --> 00:22:10,941 I'm not surprised you're thriving in here, Jimmy. 281 00:22:11,024 --> 00:22:12,067 I'm not thriving. 282 00:22:12,150 --> 00:22:14,820 Because you're a charming guy. Everyone likes you. 283 00:22:14,903 --> 00:22:17,239 I've heard you talk to Mexican cartel guys, 284 00:22:17,322 --> 00:22:18,782 Cabrini-Green bangers, 285 00:22:18,866 --> 00:22:21,910 Outfit goombahs in their tracksuits at the Elmwood Park Social Club. 286 00:22:21,994 --> 00:22:23,704 You get along with everyone. 287 00:22:25,205 --> 00:22:26,623 I've noticed something else. 288 00:22:26,707 --> 00:22:27,791 After a certain point, 289 00:22:28,876 --> 00:22:30,794 they do most of the talking. 290 00:22:32,629 --> 00:22:33,463 I'm sorry? 291 00:22:33,547 --> 00:22:35,257 You've got your patter, your funny story or two, 292 00:22:35,340 --> 00:22:38,468 but then you settle back and just let them run their mouths. 293 00:22:38,552 --> 00:22:40,053 Take me. 294 00:22:40,137 --> 00:22:42,848 Something in those soulful eyes of yours. 295 00:22:43,932 --> 00:22:47,019 The way you sit so still, so at peace with yourself. 296 00:22:47,728 --> 00:22:51,190 It makes me want to babble, man. Unlock myself. 297 00:22:51,273 --> 00:22:53,442 You mentioned a point a while back? 298 00:22:53,525 --> 00:22:56,320 You in a rush? 'Cause we can let you get back to it. 299 00:22:58,197 --> 00:22:59,656 No. I'm fine. 300 00:22:59,740 --> 00:23:02,117 You got porn to sell, veggies to procure, 301 00:23:02,201 --> 00:23:03,243 and only 302 00:23:04,453 --> 00:23:06,705 nine years, three months left on your sentence? 303 00:23:06,788 --> 00:23:09,082 - Just tell me what you want. - I don't wanna hold you up. 304 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,792 Just fucking tell me why I'm here. 305 00:23:13,128 --> 00:23:14,129 Temper. 306 00:23:15,923 --> 00:23:17,382 Not as cool as he thinks. 307 00:23:25,140 --> 00:23:27,059 We would like you to transfer to another prison 308 00:23:27,142 --> 00:23:29,853 and befriend someone to elicit a confession. 309 00:23:31,396 --> 00:23:34,650 We need the precise location of a dead body. 310 00:23:38,111 --> 00:23:39,530 You need it? 311 00:23:39,613 --> 00:23:42,741 We suspect that the man that you'll read about in that file 312 00:23:42,824 --> 00:23:45,160 has killed 14 women, maybe more. 313 00:23:45,244 --> 00:23:49,373 But we only tied him to two. And we only have one of the bodies. 314 00:23:49,456 --> 00:23:52,876 We'd like to find the other one. And maybe 12 more. 315 00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:59,091 And this prison where the guy is? 316 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,262 It's in Springfield, Missouri. 317 00:24:04,179 --> 00:24:07,349 Maximum security, specializing in the criminally insane. 318 00:24:11,645 --> 00:24:16,942 So… you want me to check in to hell, 319 00:24:18,318 --> 00:24:20,153 cozy up to a fucking demon, 320 00:24:20,237 --> 00:24:25,742 and ask him all casual, "Hey, so where'd you bury 13 bodies?" 321 00:24:27,452 --> 00:24:28,579 Is that right? 322 00:24:36,295 --> 00:24:39,381 Not for all the fucking money in the world. 323 00:24:42,926 --> 00:24:44,178 How about freedom? 324 00:24:46,972 --> 00:24:50,058 A complete commutation of your sentence. 325 00:24:55,981 --> 00:24:57,149 If I transfer? 326 00:24:58,483 --> 00:24:59,693 If you transfer. 327 00:25:01,111 --> 00:25:04,573 And if you get the location of Patricia Reitler's body. 328 00:25:04,656 --> 00:25:06,491 No body, no release. 329 00:25:08,076 --> 00:25:09,411 No body, no release. 330 00:25:18,962 --> 00:25:19,796 No. 331 00:25:21,423 --> 00:25:22,674 No? 332 00:25:22,758 --> 00:25:23,884 No. 333 00:25:26,011 --> 00:25:29,515 His conviction's on appeal. He could win and walk. 334 00:25:29,598 --> 00:25:35,437 If he walks, he'll kill again and again until he fucks up and gets caught. 335 00:25:35,521 --> 00:25:38,732 The last time, he killed 14 girls before he got caught. 336 00:25:38,815 --> 00:25:40,984 And it won't have anything to do with me. 337 00:25:41,068 --> 00:25:42,319 It will. 338 00:25:42,402 --> 00:25:45,239 You had the chance to stop him, and you didn't take it. 339 00:25:45,322 --> 00:25:51,537 Look, I'm sorry about these women, but I don't know them. 340 00:25:52,329 --> 00:25:54,331 And if he gets out, I won't know the next ones he kills. 341 00:25:54,414 --> 00:25:56,041 I might be sad about it, but… 342 00:25:56,124 --> 00:25:58,252 This kind of deal won't walk through the door twice. 343 00:25:58,335 --> 00:26:04,591 So, before you spend the next ten years wondering why you didn't take it… 344 00:26:08,303 --> 00:26:09,555 look at the file. 345 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:20,023 At the very least, it'll make unique reading material. 346 00:26:25,571 --> 00:26:27,155 Your attorney has our contact info. 347 00:27:07,863 --> 00:27:09,114 Come on, Brooke! 348 00:27:11,575 --> 00:27:13,452 Come on, Brookie! 349 00:27:13,535 --> 00:27:15,787 - She hung onto it. - Holy shit. She did! 350 00:27:15,871 --> 00:27:16,955 Okay. 351 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,208 - Honey, you're going the wrong direction! - Honey, the other way! 352 00:27:19,291 --> 00:27:21,251 - Wrong direction! - The other way! 353 00:27:26,381 --> 00:27:28,300 Well, she runs pretty fast. 354 00:27:30,219 --> 00:27:31,220 Yeah. Not bad, right? 355 00:27:33,347 --> 00:27:35,307 Will he be home for dinner? 356 00:27:35,390 --> 00:27:36,558 Not likely. 357 00:27:37,476 --> 00:27:38,852 We found Jessica Roach. 358 00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:52,574 Line it up. Here we go. First down. 359 00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:05,647 Over there. Yeah. 360 00:30:54,965 --> 00:30:56,842 He stepped out right about here. 361 00:30:57,342 --> 00:30:58,343 What did he look like? 362 00:30:58,927 --> 00:31:01,221 He was white. That's about all I saw. 363 00:31:01,722 --> 00:31:05,142 Was he short? Tall? Bald? Not bald? 364 00:31:06,101 --> 00:31:08,979 I didn't get a good look at him. He hopped in a van and drove off. 365 00:31:09,605 --> 00:31:10,856 What color van? 366 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,068 It was like a gray or brown-- 367 00:31:15,569 --> 00:31:17,863 It was night. It could have been green too, or black. 368 00:31:18,572 --> 00:31:20,199 I know it was a Dodge, for sure. 369 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:24,161 You don't know the color of the van, but you know… 370 00:31:24,244 --> 00:31:26,622 I'm a mechanic. I know a Dodge when I see one. 371 00:31:38,258 --> 00:31:40,886 Vermilion County Sheriff's Department. Can I help you? 372 00:31:42,804 --> 00:31:43,805 He sure is. 373 00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:59,321 Hey, Len. You filed a report a couple of weeks ago 374 00:31:59,404 --> 00:32:02,241 on a possible 647 over at Whittier? 375 00:32:02,324 --> 00:32:05,494 Yep. Two 14-year-old girls riding their bikes. 376 00:32:05,577 --> 00:32:07,955 Said this perv in a van kept passing them. 377 00:32:08,038 --> 00:32:09,706 Told them he liked their boobies. 378 00:32:10,791 --> 00:32:12,626 - He said "boobies"? -Yep. 379 00:32:12,709 --> 00:32:15,045 He also asked if they wanted to take a ride with him. 380 00:32:15,128 --> 00:32:16,129 Uh-huh. 381 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,298 Yeah, well, they said the van… 382 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,343 the van's gray? 383 00:32:21,426 --> 00:32:23,470 Yep, they got a plate. 384 00:32:23,554 --> 00:32:25,639 - They got what? - Indiana plate number. 385 00:32:26,306 --> 00:32:28,392 Check the notes at the end of the report. 386 00:32:29,142 --> 00:32:31,687 Okay. Did you run it? 387 00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:35,190 No. The guy drove off. They never saw him again. 388 00:32:35,274 --> 00:32:37,651 And the girl struck me as a little dramatic. 389 00:32:37,734 --> 00:32:39,069 You know girls, man. 390 00:32:39,152 --> 00:32:40,696 But be my guest, Brian. 391 00:32:40,779 --> 00:32:42,698 Okay. Thanks, Len. 392 00:32:47,995 --> 00:32:51,290 That van that followed the two girls in Whittier, 393 00:32:51,790 --> 00:32:54,501 it's been called in three other times in the last year. 394 00:32:56,003 --> 00:33:00,757 Once in Indianola, once in Olivet, once near the Dauphin Reserve. 395 00:33:00,841 --> 00:33:03,677 The same complaint every time. Harassment. 396 00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:07,472 And said van is registered to-- 397 00:33:07,556 --> 00:33:11,393 Larry D. Hall. Wabash, Indiana. 398 00:33:13,353 --> 00:33:15,939 Your sister told me your mother actually visited. 399 00:33:16,023 --> 00:33:19,276 She did. She's pissed you brought your girlfriend to my sentencing. 400 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,154 I've been with Sammy longer than I was with your mother. 401 00:33:22,237 --> 00:33:24,323 She's pissed Sammy makes me happy. 402 00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:26,700 I just wish you liked her more. 403 00:33:26,783 --> 00:33:29,494 Sam? I like her fine. She just ain't my mother. 404 00:33:30,454 --> 00:33:31,622 Uh-huh. 405 00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:39,588 I've been thinking about that deal. 406 00:33:39,671 --> 00:33:42,257 What? You think this place is bad? 407 00:33:42,966 --> 00:33:46,345 Springfield is the kind of prison that they send subhumans to. 408 00:33:46,428 --> 00:33:48,805 The fucking freaks with no souls. 409 00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:50,766 Lifers with nothing to lose. 410 00:33:50,849 --> 00:33:53,143 They'll commute my whole sentence. 411 00:33:53,227 --> 00:33:55,854 What happens if you don't get them what they want? 412 00:33:56,563 --> 00:33:57,981 Then what? 413 00:33:58,065 --> 00:33:59,608 What happens if you have to defend yourself, 414 00:33:59,691 --> 00:34:02,361 and they tack on another ten fucking years to your sentence? 415 00:34:03,028 --> 00:34:04,863 That'd be a death sentence. 416 00:34:04,947 --> 00:34:07,157 We'll find a way. We'll figure something out. 417 00:34:07,241 --> 00:34:08,951 - How? - I don't know. 418 00:34:10,202 --> 00:34:11,745 But we're going to find a way. 419 00:34:45,152 --> 00:34:47,114 You've got a call from Wabash PD. 420 00:34:47,197 --> 00:34:50,449 Yeah? Put it through, please. 421 00:34:52,494 --> 00:34:55,289 Detective Miller? Chris Drysdale. 422 00:34:55,371 --> 00:34:56,873 Hey, Chris. 423 00:34:56,956 --> 00:34:59,668 Got a question about a van 424 00:34:59,751 --> 00:35:05,924 registered to a resident of yours, a Lawrence D. Hall? 425 00:35:06,007 --> 00:35:07,467 Sure. Larry. 426 00:35:07,551 --> 00:35:08,552 You know him? 427 00:35:09,136 --> 00:35:10,469 I grew up with him. 428 00:35:11,096 --> 00:35:12,556 You know him well? 429 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:14,933 Well enough. It's a small town. 430 00:35:15,517 --> 00:35:17,352 You looking at him for something? 431 00:35:17,436 --> 00:35:23,692 Well, we're just trying to figure out why a van registered to him 432 00:35:25,277 --> 00:35:28,488 passed through our area a couple of times in the last year. 433 00:35:28,572 --> 00:35:31,074 You're in Illinois, the girl said. 434 00:35:31,158 --> 00:35:33,744 Georgetown, about 130 miles down the road. 435 00:35:34,453 --> 00:35:36,622 So, he wasn't picking up a gallon of milk. 436 00:35:36,705 --> 00:35:37,831 Nope. 437 00:35:37,915 --> 00:35:39,791 Or doing Civil War shit? 438 00:35:40,375 --> 00:35:41,376 What's that? 439 00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:47,216 Larry's into Civil War reenactments. You know, they dress up in the uniforms. 440 00:35:47,299 --> 00:35:50,219 Larry has these funky muttonchop sideburns, and they play at the battles. 441 00:35:50,302 --> 00:35:52,054 They do it all over the place. 442 00:35:52,137 --> 00:35:54,932 You should check if they had any at the times he was around your town. 443 00:35:55,015 --> 00:35:56,475 I bet that will explain it. 444 00:35:57,351 --> 00:35:58,393 Okay. 445 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,230 Thank you, Chris. I'll look into it. 446 00:36:01,313 --> 00:36:02,648 Yeah, sure enough. Take care. 447 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:04,978 Vermilion County Parks Department. 448 00:38:05,062 --> 00:38:08,106 Hey, this is Brian Miller over at the Sheriff's Department, 449 00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:09,983 trying to ascertain whether or not 450 00:38:10,651 --> 00:38:16,448 any Civil War reenactors have filed for permits in the last year? 451 00:38:17,908 --> 00:38:19,952 That could take a bit. Can you wait? 452 00:38:20,035 --> 00:38:21,703 Yes, ma'am, I can. Thank you. 453 00:38:21,787 --> 00:38:22,829 Okay, hold on. 454 00:38:28,502 --> 00:38:31,547 Okay. Are you still there? 455 00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:32,631 Yes, ma'am. 456 00:38:33,131 --> 00:38:35,884 Sorry, we have no record of a Civil War reenactment 457 00:38:35,968 --> 00:38:38,011 over the last three years. 458 00:38:38,095 --> 00:38:39,346 Okay. 459 00:38:39,888 --> 00:38:42,140 Well, thank you for your time. Appreciate it. 460 00:38:42,224 --> 00:38:44,518 However, there was a Revolutionary War. 461 00:38:45,769 --> 00:38:46,770 What is that? 462 00:38:46,854 --> 00:38:50,607 I said there was a Revolutionary War reenactment though. 463 00:38:50,691 --> 00:38:51,692 When? 464 00:38:51,775 --> 00:38:53,944 Last summer, Forest Glen Park. 465 00:38:54,695 --> 00:38:56,488 The exact date was, 466 00:38:56,572 --> 00:38:59,116 let me see, July 19th. 467 00:39:01,827 --> 00:39:02,870 Hello? 468 00:39:03,662 --> 00:39:05,038 Hello, are you still there? 469 00:39:07,416 --> 00:39:08,458 Detective? 470 00:39:09,459 --> 00:39:11,086 Okay. Thank you. 471 00:39:21,597 --> 00:39:22,764 Sammy? 472 00:39:27,436 --> 00:39:28,729 Great. 473 00:39:38,572 --> 00:39:39,823 Where's Dad? 474 00:39:42,784 --> 00:39:47,581 He came in from the yard last week talking funny, you know, 475 00:39:47,664 --> 00:39:49,499 like he was drunk, but he wasn't. 476 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,794 He said that he had a headache. 477 00:39:52,878 --> 00:39:54,254 You know, he-- 478 00:39:54,338 --> 00:39:56,757 He went to sit down, but he missed the chair. 479 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,301 And the side of his face went all droopy-- 480 00:39:59,384 --> 00:40:00,719 - He had a stroke? - Yeah. 481 00:40:00,802 --> 00:40:02,846 - Is he alive? - Yeah. He's alive. 482 00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:05,349 He was in the hospital for a few days, but now he's out. 483 00:40:05,432 --> 00:40:06,558 Is he okay? 484 00:40:09,228 --> 00:40:10,771 Is he okay? 485 00:40:10,854 --> 00:40:12,147 Told me to say he was… 486 00:40:14,399 --> 00:40:15,567 but he's not. 487 00:40:16,735 --> 00:40:20,948 He can't talk all the way right, and he walks kinda to the side. 488 00:40:21,031 --> 00:40:23,700 He's really weak, and he tires. 489 00:40:23,784 --> 00:40:27,371 He's not good at all, no. 490 00:40:29,164 --> 00:40:30,290 When did it happen? 491 00:40:32,292 --> 00:40:34,545 Last week. Wednesday. 492 00:40:34,628 --> 00:40:36,630 - Why didn't anybody tell me? - I am telling you. 493 00:40:36,713 --> 00:40:39,132 Before. Someone should have called me. I'm his son. 494 00:40:39,675 --> 00:40:42,302 Well, he is like a baby right now. 495 00:40:42,886 --> 00:40:46,431 I had to have my sister drive two hours to watch him so I could come and tell you. 496 00:40:46,515 --> 00:40:48,100 What do you want? A fucking parade? 497 00:40:51,186 --> 00:40:55,566 You know, the doctor said it was stress that did it. 498 00:40:57,651 --> 00:41:00,821 Know what caused that stress? You. In here. 499 00:41:01,864 --> 00:41:04,575 It is all he ever fucking talks about. 500 00:41:04,658 --> 00:41:08,120 His poor Jimmy doing time because he was a bad father. 501 00:41:09,371 --> 00:41:11,331 He was a bad father. Didn't do his job. 502 00:41:11,415 --> 00:41:13,458 Well, listen to me. He did his job. 503 00:41:14,126 --> 00:41:15,878 Nobody made you sell that shit. 504 00:41:16,378 --> 00:41:17,963 Nobody put a gun to your head. 505 00:41:18,505 --> 00:41:21,049 And now you're in here, and it is killing him. 506 00:41:31,393 --> 00:41:32,394 You through? 507 00:41:34,313 --> 00:41:38,817 He told me you got some way of getting out of here earlier than the ten years. 508 00:41:41,570 --> 00:41:43,238 He don't got ten years. 509 00:41:44,281 --> 00:41:48,827 And if you stay in here, he don't got three. 510 00:42:30,494 --> 00:42:34,790 Detective Drysdale, this is Brian Miller from Georgetown again. 511 00:42:34,873 --> 00:42:35,999 Hey, Brian. 512 00:42:36,959 --> 00:42:41,004 Yeah, well, that Civil War tip you gave us really paid off. Thank you for that. 513 00:42:41,797 --> 00:42:43,632 You said you grew up with Larry. 514 00:42:43,715 --> 00:42:45,884 Well, what's he like? 515 00:42:45,968 --> 00:42:47,678 A harmless weirdo. 516 00:42:50,138 --> 00:42:53,016 Sorry, I got "harmless." 517 00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:56,061 I said, he's a harmless weirdo. 518 00:42:56,562 --> 00:42:58,522 Uh-huh. Why weirdo? 519 00:42:58,605 --> 00:43:01,942 Well, the sideburns, like I said. 520 00:43:02,025 --> 00:43:05,904 He grew up with a mom and dad who were odd. 521 00:43:05,988 --> 00:43:08,740 And the cemetery, you know. 522 00:43:09,491 --> 00:43:10,659 The cemetery? 523 00:43:12,911 --> 00:43:13,912 A what? 524 00:43:13,996 --> 00:43:17,040 A gravedigger. Larry grew up on a graveyard. 525 00:43:17,541 --> 00:43:18,834 But he's harmless. 526 00:43:18,917 --> 00:43:20,127 Why would you say that? 527 00:43:20,627 --> 00:43:22,713 He just is. He's a twerpy kinda guy. 528 00:43:22,796 --> 00:43:24,464 He got beat up a bunch in school. 529 00:43:24,548 --> 00:43:25,549 Uh-huh. 530 00:43:26,175 --> 00:43:28,677 The thing is, there's a girl that went missing-- 531 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,803 The college girl? 532 00:43:30,762 --> 00:43:33,056 He confessed to that, but he didn't do it. 533 00:43:34,183 --> 00:43:35,517 Marion PD cleared him. 534 00:43:35,601 --> 00:43:38,395 Said he was a serial confessor. 535 00:43:38,896 --> 00:43:40,522 But no, I-- 536 00:43:43,233 --> 00:43:45,903 He confessed in a missing persons case? 537 00:43:45,986 --> 00:43:47,946 In Marion, yeah. 538 00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:50,449 They ascertained he was full of shit. That-- 539 00:43:50,532 --> 00:43:53,952 But that's Larry. He's always trying to make himself look bigger than he is. 540 00:43:55,287 --> 00:43:57,289 Let me call you from my landline. 541 00:45:18,662 --> 00:45:19,663 Hey. 542 00:45:19,746 --> 00:45:20,747 I'm back. 543 00:45:20,831 --> 00:45:24,751 Yeah. So, Chris, the thing is, 544 00:45:25,627 --> 00:45:29,965 we got a girl, went missing, turned up dead. 545 00:45:30,799 --> 00:45:33,760 And you think Larry Hall could have something to do with it? 546 00:45:34,261 --> 00:45:35,387 Well, we don't know. 547 00:45:35,929 --> 00:45:40,851 What we do know is a van was seen driving around the area 548 00:45:40,934 --> 00:45:45,898 and, you know, he was creeping out girls in the area on more than one occasion. 549 00:45:45,981 --> 00:45:48,942 So, with your help, we'd like to talk to him. 550 00:45:53,238 --> 00:45:54,698 Well, I mean… 551 00:45:57,201 --> 00:45:58,911 I have to disagree with you here. 552 00:46:01,830 --> 00:46:03,332 On which part? 553 00:46:03,415 --> 00:46:06,877 Where Larry Hall could have anything to do with a dead girl. 554 00:46:08,921 --> 00:46:10,506 He just likes to talk. 555 00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:12,674 Like in Marion. 556 00:46:12,758 --> 00:46:16,512 They got the guy who did it, and it sure wasn't Larry. 557 00:46:20,224 --> 00:46:21,308 Fair enough. 558 00:46:25,354 --> 00:46:28,815 I'll call him in here, and I'll get us a room. 559 00:46:28,899 --> 00:46:30,108 I'll set it up. 560 00:46:32,110 --> 00:46:34,321 10:00 tomorrow work for you? 561 00:46:35,072 --> 00:46:37,699 Yes. Sure. Yes. 562 00:46:37,783 --> 00:46:39,743 You think you can get him there without a hitch? 563 00:46:39,826 --> 00:46:41,411 If I can't, I'll call you. 564 00:46:41,495 --> 00:46:42,955 Else, I'll see you at 10:00. 565 00:46:51,588 --> 00:46:52,589 Okay. 566 00:46:59,346 --> 00:47:01,306 - I said, okay. - I heard the word. 567 00:47:02,724 --> 00:47:03,976 Why don't you elaborate? 568 00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:08,355 I'll accept the transfer 569 00:47:09,481 --> 00:47:13,235 and befriend this sick fucking puppy and get you what you want. 570 00:47:14,236 --> 00:47:15,612 So, let's get to it. 571 00:47:18,490 --> 00:47:20,576 I'm glad you've made yourself available. 572 00:47:22,286 --> 00:47:24,454 But I never said the job was yours. 573 00:47:26,164 --> 00:47:27,791 I asked if you were interested. 574 00:47:28,292 --> 00:47:29,835 - Now I know you are. - Wait a second. 575 00:47:29,918 --> 00:47:32,671 We're looking at more than one applicant for the position. 576 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,175 Fuck are you talking about? 577 00:47:36,258 --> 00:47:37,593 I just told you. 578 00:47:40,637 --> 00:47:43,140 I'll let my bosses know you're amenable to a transfer 579 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,311 and put your name in the hat for the job. 580 00:47:47,394 --> 00:47:48,604 And we'll go from there. 581 00:47:54,860 --> 00:47:56,195 Keep doing your homework. 582 00:47:56,945 --> 00:47:59,531 You're not going to want to blow the job interview, believe me. 583 00:48:42,616 --> 00:48:46,411 Hi. Detective Miller. I have a 10:00 a.m. with Drysdale. 584 00:48:46,495 --> 00:48:48,872 - Brian? - Chris! 585 00:48:48,956 --> 00:48:50,541 Hey, it's good to meet you. 586 00:48:50,624 --> 00:48:51,667 Likewise. 587 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:53,544 - He in a box? - Larry? 588 00:48:53,627 --> 00:48:55,045 No, he's across the street. 589 00:48:55,128 --> 00:48:57,464 We got him in a conference room with the Marion guys. 590 00:48:58,131 --> 00:48:59,383 The detectives? 591 00:48:59,466 --> 00:49:01,552 Yeah. They want to question him on the Reitler case. 592 00:49:02,845 --> 00:49:04,179 We wanted to observe. 593 00:49:04,263 --> 00:49:06,557 But I was hoping that he would be at ease. 594 00:49:07,307 --> 00:49:08,725 Not think anything was up. 595 00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:12,062 Well, he spent a whole day with the Marion guys once, driving around. 596 00:49:12,145 --> 00:49:13,522 He's pretty relaxed with them. 597 00:49:14,606 --> 00:49:16,066 Why were they driving around? 598 00:49:16,567 --> 00:49:18,986 He claimed he could take them to a body. Patricia Reitler's. 599 00:49:19,069 --> 00:49:21,071 - But he didn't, because, like I said-- - Yeah, no. 600 00:49:21,154 --> 00:49:22,573 He's "full of shit." I know. 601 00:49:27,703 --> 00:49:31,540 Detective Russ Aborn, Brian Miller, with the Vermilion Sheriffs. 602 00:49:31,623 --> 00:49:32,624 Hey. 603 00:49:32,708 --> 00:49:34,960 Derek's in with him now, shooting the shit. 604 00:49:35,669 --> 00:49:38,589 I know you like him for some dead girl in your town, 605 00:49:38,672 --> 00:49:41,758 but we wasted a day with this guy on the Reitler case. 606 00:49:41,842 --> 00:49:45,345 And he dragged us all around, one cornfield to the next, 607 00:49:45,429 --> 00:49:47,598 and he didn't do it. 608 00:49:47,681 --> 00:49:50,100 So, I doubt he did yours. 609 00:49:50,184 --> 00:49:53,228 He just likes confessing to cops. 610 00:49:55,689 --> 00:49:56,857 Good to know. 611 00:50:07,242 --> 00:50:08,327 Derek Johansen. 612 00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:13,498 Now, those are some exquisite burnsides. 613 00:50:14,625 --> 00:50:17,878 Named after General Ambrose Burnside, 614 00:50:18,462 --> 00:50:20,797 a civil war general from around these parts, right? 615 00:50:20,881 --> 00:50:26,136 A lot of people call them sideburns, but the proper term is burnsides, yeah. 616 00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:29,056 Well, yours are impressive, no matter what they're called. 617 00:50:29,556 --> 00:50:31,225 You leave them in place year-round? 618 00:50:31,725 --> 00:50:36,188 Yeah, it's easier than having to regrow them before every reenactment. 619 00:50:37,064 --> 00:50:40,609 You do both the Civil War and Revolutionary War reenactments, right? 620 00:50:41,568 --> 00:50:44,571 Sorry, I'm Brian. 621 00:50:44,655 --> 00:50:48,116 I'm with the Vermilion County Sheriffs in Georgetown. 622 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,243 Indiana? 623 00:50:49,326 --> 00:50:50,369 Illinois. 624 00:50:53,205 --> 00:50:54,373 Never heard of it. 625 00:50:57,334 --> 00:51:00,587 We had a Revolutionary War reenactment. 626 00:51:00,671 --> 00:51:04,883 I guess it was one town over. The same county. 627 00:51:05,968 --> 00:51:10,681 You didn't attend a Revolutionary War reenactment in Illinois last summer? 628 00:51:14,726 --> 00:51:16,979 I don't know, maybe. 629 00:51:17,771 --> 00:51:21,942 Well, yeah, he did a lot of this when he was leading us to Tricia Reitler. 630 00:51:22,025 --> 00:51:23,944 "I don't know, maybe." 631 00:51:24,695 --> 00:51:25,863 Didn't you, Larry? 632 00:51:27,823 --> 00:51:30,117 C'mon, tell him, Larry. 633 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,494 Tell him how you, I don't know, maybe. 634 00:51:32,578 --> 00:51:34,371 And, I can't quite remember-- 635 00:51:34,454 --> 00:51:36,415 If you want to question Mr. Hall in your case, 636 00:51:36,498 --> 00:51:38,083 why don't you go ahead and arrange a time. 637 00:51:38,166 --> 00:51:40,127 Right now, I'd like to chat with him about mine. 638 00:51:43,463 --> 00:51:45,507 By all means, chat. 639 00:51:48,927 --> 00:51:53,557 All right, Larry, this is Georgetown right here, okay? 640 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,353 And this is Forest Glen Park. 641 00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:05,360 And… 642 00:52:06,153 --> 00:52:08,030 McHenry Township, right up here. 643 00:52:08,113 --> 00:52:11,283 And this would have been where the reenactment take place. 644 00:52:11,366 --> 00:52:13,035 McHenry. Yeah, I've been there. 645 00:52:13,869 --> 00:52:14,870 Last summer? 646 00:52:15,913 --> 00:52:19,416 I mean, I think so, yeah. Like around there. 647 00:52:20,501 --> 00:52:22,169 I know that there's a Hardee's-- 648 00:52:23,295 --> 00:52:24,296 Sorry. 649 00:52:25,380 --> 00:52:26,381 No, it's okay. 650 00:52:29,301 --> 00:52:32,137 I remember there was a Hardee's right around here. 651 00:52:32,221 --> 00:52:34,640 That's right. They do, Larry. It's right here. 652 00:52:34,723 --> 00:52:39,353 Yep. I had a sandwich and some french fries 653 00:52:39,436 --> 00:52:44,399 when I was driving around trying to find a guy who had a Charger. 654 00:52:45,275 --> 00:52:46,735 A Dodge? 655 00:52:47,236 --> 00:52:54,117 Yeah. I have a '82 Dodge van, and some of the parts are interchangeable. 656 00:52:55,494 --> 00:52:56,995 Did you ever find the guy? 657 00:52:59,998 --> 00:53:02,084 No, I don't think that I did. 658 00:53:03,001 --> 00:53:06,088 - But you drove around looking? - Yep. 659 00:53:06,171 --> 00:53:10,759 Larry loves Dodges. Heard all about them that day we drove him around. 660 00:53:10,843 --> 00:53:13,136 Yeah, well, I like Mopar parts. 661 00:53:13,804 --> 00:53:18,809 I'll find these little junkers that are rusted underneath a tree 662 00:53:18,892 --> 00:53:21,812 or behind some of these people's houses. 663 00:53:22,646 --> 00:53:23,981 They're not doing nothing with them. 664 00:53:24,064 --> 00:53:27,401 So… maybe I know a body shop 665 00:53:27,484 --> 00:53:32,573 that… needs a tailpipe 666 00:53:32,656 --> 00:53:35,659 or… filter housing, 667 00:53:35,742 --> 00:53:39,663 and then I'll just buy it for 20 and resell it for 35. 668 00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:42,583 Must be a lot of driving around. 669 00:53:42,666 --> 00:53:44,001 Oh, yeah. A lot of miles. 670 00:53:44,084 --> 00:53:45,294 But I like to drive. 671 00:53:47,171 --> 00:53:50,966 And when you were driving around, do you remember talking to two girls? 672 00:53:57,139 --> 00:54:00,934 I asked for directions. They were very rude. 673 00:54:01,018 --> 00:54:02,269 How were they rude? 674 00:54:06,398 --> 00:54:09,526 They told me to-- 675 00:54:12,362 --> 00:54:13,572 Sorry, what? 676 00:54:14,281 --> 00:54:16,783 Told me to go fuck myself. 677 00:54:17,367 --> 00:54:19,161 Did you exchange words with them? 678 00:54:19,244 --> 00:54:21,121 I did. It was all in fun. 679 00:54:21,747 --> 00:54:24,666 Like the misunderstanding with the jogger, Larry? 680 00:54:24,750 --> 00:54:26,001 Yeah. 681 00:54:26,084 --> 00:54:27,669 - Yeah. - Misunderstanding? 682 00:54:27,753 --> 00:54:30,339 Larry had some words with a jogger in town a few times. 683 00:54:30,422 --> 00:54:32,049 She accused him of stalking her. 684 00:54:32,132 --> 00:54:34,176 I didn't stalk anyone. 685 00:54:34,259 --> 00:54:36,261 Yeah, I can't help it if I drive home 686 00:54:36,345 --> 00:54:40,682 past where some girl runs the same time every day. I mean-- 687 00:54:40,766 --> 00:54:43,352 Come on, Larry. Was a little more to it than that. 688 00:54:43,435 --> 00:54:44,686 And she smiled at me. 689 00:54:44,770 --> 00:54:46,730 - She smiled at you? - Yeah. 690 00:54:47,606 --> 00:54:49,358 Abby, the-- 691 00:54:49,441 --> 00:54:50,692 The jogger. 692 00:54:51,193 --> 00:54:52,361 And you know her name? 693 00:54:53,195 --> 00:54:54,905 Yeah, it's a small town. 694 00:54:59,785 --> 00:55:02,246 Larry, these two girls in my town-- 695 00:55:02,329 --> 00:55:04,206 You know, I was just goofing around with them. 696 00:55:04,289 --> 00:55:06,124 If they said that there was more to it, 697 00:55:06,208 --> 00:55:08,335 then they just didn't get the joke, I'm sorry. 698 00:55:08,418 --> 00:55:11,171 I would never dream of hurting two girls. 699 00:55:11,255 --> 00:55:12,923 Well, you might dream of it. 700 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,137 All right. What are you guys talking about? 701 00:55:20,848 --> 00:55:22,975 Larry has vivid dreams. 702 00:55:24,059 --> 00:55:26,687 Tell Brian here about your dreams, Larry. 703 00:55:30,941 --> 00:55:32,693 They're just dreams. 704 00:55:33,986 --> 00:55:35,320 Just tell me about 'em. 705 00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:41,243 In my dreams, I-- 706 00:55:44,162 --> 00:55:50,252 In my dreams, I, like… kill women… you know? 707 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,841 Sure. 708 00:55:57,050 --> 00:55:58,719 They're just dreams. 709 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,767 Tell me more.