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This is my...my inspiration.

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Real quick.

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The number one artist in the world!

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That level of megastardom
is not healthy.

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People are not gods.

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Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police

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of multiple felony counts
of child molestation.

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just keeps right on rolling.

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Sony Corporation believes it has
a profitable partner

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in Michael Jackson.

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Together,
they could make $1 billion.

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As NBC's Mike Jensen reports
tonight, teach your kids to sing.

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that takes your breath away.

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A projected $1 billion
for six Michael Jackson albums

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plus feature films,
videos and video games.

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Michael, in the 1980s,

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you had the largest selling album
in history with Thriller.

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the fastest selling album
of your career.

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We're prouder than ever to have you
part of the Sony Music family.

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The thrilling fact is that the best
is definitely yet to come.

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FANS SCREAM

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was the biggest star in the world.

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He was the guy.

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I don't know any other way
to describe it.

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I mean, we all lived through it.

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TV REPORT: The Michael Jackson
world tour is on the road again.

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He was selling out stadiums,
making record money.

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He was the franchise.
I mean, let's be honest.

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FANS SHOUT

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We are all in the business
of succeeding.

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And when you're working
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you want Michael Jackson to succeed.

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Michael! Michael!

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My name is Rosibel Smith,

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and for 31 years I was employed by
the Los Angeles Police Department.

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In 1993,

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I was working the
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I was advised by my supervisor,

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who was the officer
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that a case had come in involving
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who was 13 years of age,

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was Michael Jackson.

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I was a little, um, in disbelief

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that it was Michael Jackson
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because I grew up watching
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I knew the Jackson 5 cartoons
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CROWD SHOUTS AND SCREAMS

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But we had a job to do,

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and that job was to go out
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just like any other case
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Our role was to find out
if Mr Jackson

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sexual molestation against children.

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we have to find out if the children,

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they were telling the truth.

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We had to interview the victim.

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The victim had actually met
Michael Jackson at a restaurant.

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Then years later,

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that relationship grew
and they began to visit each other.

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The victim was alleging
that Michael would oftentimes

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rub his body against his body.

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He alleged that Michael Jackson
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He alleged that Michael liked
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rubbed, squeezed.

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Kissing.

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Then they had graduated
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they bathed together

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Michael Jackson consumed his semen.

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We had heard on the grapevine
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allegations circulating.

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and I saw that it was
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CHILD SHOUTS, MICHAEL LAUGHS

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I saw he was playing games
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I saw the kids wanting
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Quicksand up ahead!

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weren't true.

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The feeling was
trying to contain it.

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Obviously, we were thinking of,
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the immediate impact on the tour

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because you got to keep
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and the impact of that.

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So it was pretty...
It was pretty tense.

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We went into crisis mode, both
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But ultimately,
the story was so huge

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it was going to get out
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There was no stopping it.

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In Southern California, the press,
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and private investigators are in
orbit tonight over an investigation

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of child abuse allegations
involving superstar Michael Jackson.

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Michael Jackson this morning

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and Los Angeles Police
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But they have confirmed reports
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of the pop superstar.

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All hell broke loose.

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first broke the story last night,
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Jackson abused her child.

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August 17th, the Los Angeles
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a criminal investigation
of entertainer Michael Jackson.

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the top story was Michael Jackson.

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Confidential documents
obtained by NBC News

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quoted the boy's reference to acts
of oral sex and masturbation.

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The allegations now surfacing
are ugly enough

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Kids everywhere are talking about
the scandalous accusations,

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hoping they're not true.

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Has Michael Jackson
ever molested a child?

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Ever done anything improper
with a child?

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No, never. No, never.

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My son is not guilty.

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He'd need a trial.

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These people aren't waiting.
They're trying to...

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Trying to... They're trying him.

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That's right. And I'm tired of it.

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Everything was suddenly bad.

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Everything was, um...

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..emotional.

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Talking to Michael was different
because he was different.

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Suddenly, he was no longer the happy
Michael that I used to talk to.

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He sounded depressed.

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was no way he could come back

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from these terrible things
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Eventually he came back to America.

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We had the information
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Michael's body,

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is if Michael was nude.

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Then our unit prepared
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or to view Michael's body,

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and this included the genitals.

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We explained to him, we have a
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to take pictures
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He said, "You assholes".

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The outcome

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was that evidence that was provided

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by Jordan Chandler...

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..it was confirmed.

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Yeah, we'd like to talk to
Michael Jackson. Has he come back?

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I have no comment, sir.
No comment, huh?

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I don't necessarily think
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because I don't know.

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Well, I don't know
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but I think that he needs
to come back and face the charges.

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He's looking pretty guilty
right now.

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TV PRESENTER: There is real fear
tonight that the catastrophic

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publicity will result in the
destruction of a $1 billion empire

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and the ruin of a man.

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Sony stock has fallen

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concerned that the huge investment

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that they have in Michael Jackson
is, in fact, not going to pay off.

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When the allegations surfaced...

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..I read them, watched them on TV,

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like everyone else did...

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Michael Jackson was unequivocally

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the biggest artist in the company.

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And if he's not succeeding...

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..guess what? Jobs get lost.

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Is Michael Jackson
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He's got a whole cadre
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every night.

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Up to that point,
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But once the allegations
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you can't take them back again.

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And so we needed to get him
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deny these allegations.

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Michael Jackson came out
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without leaving home.

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The pop star angrily rejected
accusations he molested a young boy

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and lashed out at police
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disgusting statements

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made recently concerning allegations

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of improper conduct on my part.

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These statements about me
are totally false.

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At every opportunity,
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I ask all of you to wait
and hear the truth

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before you label or condemn me.

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Don't treat me like a criminal
because I am innocent.

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Jackson's defiant declaration
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that's saturated with rumour,
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and almost daily revelations
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Separating fact from fiction
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For years I have been working
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victim of this and other types

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of extortion attempts.

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The demand for $20 million was made
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It was flatly
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Many people try to extort Michael
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the amount of money he has.

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And these people wanted $20 million.

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As far as the victim is concerned,

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I did not get anything as far as
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However, the parents
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an entertainment trade paper,

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said today that the boy's father
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for a $20 million movie deal.

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The father is a prominent
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phone conversation.

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The voice is reportedly the father
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The father did in fact ask for money

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to keep the situation quiet.

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Michael Jackson with such vigour,
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I know that there's a lot of people
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I'm sure that it will all work out.

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And I'm sure that he's innocent,
you know?

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But only God knows the truth,
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CROWD SCREAMS AND CHEERS

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So the management team started
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The main strategy was to, um,

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endear Michael

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to the black community

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and to get the black community
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behind you, you got it

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because, you know, we're a big group

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and race relations at that time,

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it was a hotbed.

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SIRENS WAIL

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NEWS PRESENTER: Parts of Los Angeles
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Los Angeles police officers

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over the videotaped beating
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SHOUTING, SIRENS WAIL

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What happened with Rodney King,
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Like, we can't get nowhere.

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We have no rights
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Race is tearing America apart.

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Now, more than ever,
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Someone was friends with this
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named Johnnie Cochran.

259
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And so he suggested that Johnnie
would be the best person

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for Michael's case,

261
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not only because he's black,
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Mr Cochran, let me start with you.
Why do you think it was important

263
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for Michael Jackson
to speak out now?

264
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Well, I think, Katie, that after
months of being barraged

265
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with negative attacks,
it was time.

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<font color="
knew that having a black face

267
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as the front man
for the defence would, um...

268
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..bring the black community
to Michael's defence as well.

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APPLAUSE

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The king of pop, rock and soul -
Mr Michael Jackson.

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Michael's first public appearance
after his statement

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about the allegations was
at the NAACP Image Awards,

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and that's the National Association

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for the Advancement
of Colored People.

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APPLAUSE

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<font color="
walked out on that stage.

278
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The house went crazy.

279
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Everyone was in support of Michael.

280
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No-one wanted to believe
these allegations.

281
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For decades, the NAACP had stood
at the forefront

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under the law

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for all people in our land.

284
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And his speech was based on being
a proud black man

285
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and how, you know, we have
to stick together

286
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against racial inequality
and injustice.

287
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<font color="
and totally innocent

288
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until they are charged
with a crime

289
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and then convicted
by a jury of their peers.

290
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RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE

291
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It was such a powerful speech.

292
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With all of the stuff that was
<font color="

293
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..it felt like Michael's innocence
was important

294
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and it was what we needed.

295
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,600
Everybody wanted him
to be back on top.

296
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The family of a teenage boy
is dropping its charge

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that Michael Jackson
<font color="

298
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Larry Carroll tells us
the civil suit is now over.

299
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We wish to jointly announce
a mutual resolution of this lawsuit.

300
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,200
This boy wanted to get on
with his life.

301
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,160
When that case was settled,

302
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:39,160
and I believe that the pay-out
<font color="

303
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or maybe a little
more over $20 million,

304
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the family accepted the settlement.

305
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,720
The resolution of this case is
in no way an admission of guilt

306
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by Michael Jackson.

307
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Being a megastar like he was,

308
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<font color="
with attorneys,

309
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,240
with really coming out and doing
pretty much whatever he wanted

310
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in order to defend himself.

311
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So that was pretty much
the end of our case.

312
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I felt bad because Rosie and I,

313
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,880
we were certain
<font color="

314
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,760
but when the victim
doesn't want to testify...

315
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,280
..there is a saying that says
"no victim, no crime."

316
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,880
So, nothing that we could do.

317
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,360
Read all about it!
Hollywood sex scandals!

318
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Heidi's little black book.

319
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320
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Loni Anderson says,
"Burt's a dud in bed."

321
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Uh-oh!

322
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,120
In this billion dollar business,
there's only one story

323
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:59,040
that's guaranteed -
a big name in trouble.

324
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,760
That's the best news of all.

325
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,720
<font color="
grabbing the headlines right now

326
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040
are the allegations
about Michael Jackson,

327
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,440
the biggest superstar in the world.

328
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,480
Michael Jackson is our window
into the new news business

329
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,880
and the magazine shows, talk shows,
<font color="

330
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,000
that feed off tabloid truth.

331
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Michael Jackson,

332
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,120
violator or victim?

333
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,640
What do you think about Michael?
Well...

334
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,440
No, I think it's true.
He settled for all that money.

335
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,280
Yeah. He settled for all that
<font color="

336
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,920
I think something's up when
he settles for over $10 million

337
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,360
to shut someone up.

338
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,800
I don't know, it's a shame, because
I think Michael has been dragged

339
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,960
through the mud a lot. You know,
I don't know if he's a victim

340
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,720
<font color="
he's lost that wholesome image

341
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,960
forever, you know?

342
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,960
The allegations really changed how
the public, I think, thought of him.

343
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,200
And Michael had to kind of
rehabilitate that image.

344
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:08,720
People had been obsessed with
<font color="

345
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,600
And his managers thought it would
be cool if the press found out

346
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,200
that Michael had a girlfriend.

347
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,360
Michael and Lisa started dating

348
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,960
soon after the allegations
had been settled.

349
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,240
Michael Joseph Jackson.
<font color="

350
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,240
He knew that marrying
Elvis Presley's daughter

351
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,640
would be headlines everywhere.

352
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,680
Everyone would be talking
about that,

353
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,920
and they'd no longer talk about
this horrible time in his life.

354
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,920
With this ring I do wed.

355
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,520
<font color="

356
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,040
You've heard the talk for weeks.

357
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,600
It's surprising and
it's apparently true.

358
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,720
The daughter of Elvis Presley
confirms today

359
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,840
she is now married
to Michael Jackson.

360
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Let's go to Vince Dementri
<font color="

361
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,760
John, hopefully you can see
behind me the throngs of stargazers

362
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,840
right behind me. We are just
outside of the world-famous

363
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Trump Tower, where Donald Trump
tells us, yes, indeed,

364
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520
that Lisa Marie Presley
and her new beau,

365
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,200
<font color="
on the top floor.

366
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240
Well, I'm very, very happy for them.

367
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,000
I think it's great.

368
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,440
They're very happy

369
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760
and I think everybody's happy.

370
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,080
They're great people.

371
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,000
I first met Michael in 1988.

372
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,720
<font color="
at that time.

373
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,120
And so they called me and said
Michael is a big fan of mine

374
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,040
and he would love to meet me.

375
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,240
And we hit it off.

376
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,200
And he got to know the whole family.

377
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,640
I also knew Lisa Marie Presley

378
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,040
<font color="
in Los Angeles.

379
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,560
So I knew them separately.

380
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,680
And then later Lisa came to me
one day and said,

381
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,000
"Look, Michael is hitting on me

382
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,120
"and he actually
wants to marry me.

383
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,000
"What do you think?
<font color="

384
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,800
So I said, "Go for it."

385
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320
For him, it was also he liked Lisa

386
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,520
because she was the daughter
of The King.

387
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,160
So he was also a king -
King of Pop, yeah?

388
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,400
CHEERING

389
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,480
This is a big deal.

390
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,520
<font color="
with a woman like this.

391
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,000
Ever.

392
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,720
I'm very happy to be here.

393
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,840
And just think,
nobody thought this would last.

394
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,600
LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE

395
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,120
EXUBERANT CHEERING

396
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,920
It did work in the way
<font color="

397
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,200
in that everyone was
talking about it.

398
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,640
But at the same time the public
wasn't really buying it.

399
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,040
It's all a cover-up.

400
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,000
It's all a cover-up from
the little child thing.

401
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,920
That's what I think it is,
<font color="

402
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,160
You don't think it's true love?
No.

403
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,920
I think it's a sham.

404
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,720
Heterosexual marriage would
certainly take some of the heat off

405
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,320
being accused of being
a homosexual paedophile.

406
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,480
FANS SCREAM

407
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,960
<font color="
together for around 18 months.

408
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,280
It's splitsville
for Graceland and Neverland.

409
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Many of you may find this hard
to believe,

410
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,240
but Lisa Marie Presley and Michael
Jackson are getting a divorce.

411
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,640
<font color="
one is no longer the loved one.

412
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Oh, such a sad story.

413
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,960
Sorry to hear that,
sorry to see that.

414
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,400
What a shock, what a surprise.

415
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,000
It was kind of hard to watch.

416
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,560
He was trying to maintain
his position as like

417
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,760
<font color="
in the world,

418
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,280
and it wasn't quite working.

419
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,160
This is a man who changed
the music industry.

420
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,640
He is a musical genius.

421
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560
And people don't think of him
in that sense any more.

422
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,040
They think of him as a freak.

423
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,920
<font color="
himself out of this trough

424
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040
that he has largely dug for himself?

425
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560
When he was working on the
HIStory album,

426
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Michael called me and said,

427
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,240
"Look, I want to use some of your
paintings for the artwork."

428
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,480
<font color="
he really liked.

429
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,240
And then spontaneously he wrote this
poem directly on the picture.

430
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,680
"With such confusion, don't it
make you want to scream?

431
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,840
"You try to cope with every lie

432
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,680
"To scrutinise somebody

433
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,760
<font color="

434
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,120
"Because I just can't take it."

435
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,640
If you listen to the lyrics
and the songs

436
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,440
and the overall vibe of the tracks
on HIStory,

437
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,000
they're very aggressive,
they're very defensive.

438
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,200
Even the Scream video is very dark
<font color="

439
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,640
Then for the HIStory album promo,

440
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,200
Michael chose a dictator-esque
image.

441
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,240
He's got these military troops
marching behind him

442
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120
and a godlike aura.

443
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,360
That's what he wanted
to push out there.

444
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,000
<font color="

445
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,280
the biggest pop superstar
in the history of music.

446
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680
NEWS PRESENTER: Tower Bridge
was raised this afternoon

447
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,560
to allow a 30 foot statue
of rock star Michael Jackson

448
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840
to pass along the Thames on a barge.

449
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040
<font color="

450
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,400
I think it's brilliant.

451
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,400
It's just the best thing that's
happened on the River Thames.

452
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,680
He's a mega star, yeah,
they call him the King of Pop

453
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,280
so if he can afford to do this,
why not?

454
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,360
For the HIStory tour,

455
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,360
<font color="
on his fan base abroad.

456
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,560
And his popularity continued over
in Europe and the UK, Asia

457
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,840
versus the US, where it was
kind of slipping a little bit

458
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,120
because of the allegations and all
the media circus around that.

459
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,240
<font color="

460
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,720
CHANTING: Michael! Michael!

461
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,360
It's like a dream come true.

462
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,080
I touched him!

463
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,920
I'm not going to wash my hand.

464
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,240
I remember this one time I was
with Michael in Budapest...

465
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,000
<font color="

466
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,840
under siege by thousands
of young people.

467
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,720
CHANTING AND CHEERING

468
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,880
And what he did,
he'd draw a curtain a little bit,

469
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,080
and then he had his glove on,

470
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,040
and people screeched. It was like
an explosion down there.

471
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,240
<font color="

472
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040
He was laughing and said,
"Oh, my God, look!

473
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,480
"Did you hear? Do you hear?"

474
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240
SCREAMING

475
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,560
I think there's a deep desire
to look up for people

476
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,440
that are bigger than life, yeah?

477
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080
As role models or as somebody
<font color="

478
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,920
I mean, I think
that's what mankind needs.

479
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,680
But I think the danger is...

480
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,840
..when everybody worships you,

481
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200
is that you start to believe it
in a way that

482
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,240
you start to worship yourself,
and I think that's very dangerous.

483
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,480
<font color="
Please, may I hug you?

484
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Please?

485
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,800
SHE CRIES: I love you.
I love you more.

486
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,840
But he was enjoying that. He liked
to have that effect on people.

487
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Love you.

488
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Sir, sir. This way.

489
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,440
<font color="
I love Germany.

490
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Oh, we love you.

491
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,600
GIRL SOBS

492
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,560
CACOPHONY OF NOISE

493
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880
PAPARAZZI SHOUT

494
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840
CAR HORN HOOTS

495
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,240
OK, OK, OK.
Stay on the side. OK, of course.

496
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,080
<font color="
Stay in that corner.

497
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Stay in that corner.
OK. Michael?

498
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,320
Michael?

499
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Step back. Please.

500
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,160
MICHAEL JACKSON:
Where's your camera? Yes, yes.

501
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,440
Please.

502
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280
<font color="

503
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,360
Come on. OK, please.

504
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,960
Go, go.

505
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,160
OK?

506
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,440
When I met Michael,

507
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,960
I saw that he was addicted to fame.

508
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,400
I was a well-known rabbi

509
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640
and Michael and I had
become friends.

510
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,240
<font color="

511
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,160
and he chose to be loved in...

512
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,440
..really, in an unhealthy way,

513
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,840
which was through superstardom

514
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120
and the devotion of fans.

515
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Sir, you're in the way!

516
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,080
I said to him, "You've made the
mistake of substituting love

517
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,240
<font color="
called attention.

518
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,440
"And attention is never
a good substitute for love.

519
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,680
"It's never real."

520
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,080
This attention became an addiction

521
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,600
because he interpreted it as love

522
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,800
and it became a monster.

523
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,920
PAPARAZZI SHOUT

524
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,160
<font color="
principal objectives

525
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,920
was to tether him back to humility.

526
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,880
And so our conversations
became kind of therapy.

527
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,240
He wanted every word

528
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,160
recorded for posterity.

529
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,760
We recorded it on these
two flimsy dicta machines,

530
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,720
<font color="
tiny little tapes.

531
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,040
CROWD CHANTS: Michael! Michael!
Michael! Michael!

532
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,560
FANS SCREAM

533
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640
He needed something to live for.

534
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,320
And as he explained it to me,

535
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,240
he always wanted to be around kids.

536
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:51,560
<font color="

537
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,720
he loved the creativity of a child

538
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,720
because for him, the adult world
was people wanting money from him

539
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,480
and people wanting to know him
for all the wrong reasons.

540
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,680
CHILDREN SHRIEK

541
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,520
At that time in his life...

542
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200
<font color="
wanted to be a father.

543
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,320
CHILDREN SCREAM

544
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,120
Because kids, as long as you
give them unconditional love,

545
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,960
they really give it back.

546
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,280
They are mirror reflections
of the love that we give them.

547
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,760
And he was going to give them
<font color="

548
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,440
And that's what happened.

549
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,760
Ooh!

550
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,600
Something to wear tonight.
Teletubbies.

551
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Who's that?

552
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Lala. That's right, it's Lala.

553
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,240
I think having children gave him
a renewed sense of purpose,

554
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,560
<font color="
and direction.

555
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,800
That's cute.

556
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,880
BABY WHIMPERS

557
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,040
That's a great shot.
It is. It is.

558
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,440
It's OK.

559
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,760
MICHAEL JACKSON: I want to be
successful at being a great father.

560
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,880
I want... I want them
<font color="

561
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,680
and he was, like, incredible.

562
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
That's my biggest dreams,
one day for Prince and Paris

563
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,480
just to say to somebody,
"He was the best dad."

564
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,320
One, two, three.

565
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600
ALL: Surprise!

566
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,320
Whoo!

567
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,280
<font color="

568
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,520


569
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,360


570
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,480
I'd been working with Michael
for four years

571
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,160
by the time he had his children.

572
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,840
When Prince and Paris came along...

573
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,880
..I saw a different,
a different person.

574
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,880
<font color="
point at the camera like this?

575
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,520
OK. All of us.

576
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,000
His life was now about the children.

577
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,320
That was his priority.

578
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,440
And he was getting more and more

579
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,960
absolutely clear about his future.

580
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,280
He was saying, "Dieter"...

581
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,920
<font color="
in my life for the music,

582
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,160
"and I think I did it well,
and everybody made a lot of money.

583
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,880
"But new people coming,

584
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,040
"other music is coming."

585
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,480
And he had a feeling he will never
be successful like he was,

586
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,800
<font color="

587
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Michael said he didn't want to be
a trained monkey forever.

588
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,520
It's over.

589
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,760
Will you give it to Howie?
Come on, let's do it.

590
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,520
THEY LAUGH

591
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,800
But when you start not to do

592
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,960
what this, he called it system,
<font color="

593
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,120
then you're in trouble.

594
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Let's make it three.

595
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,720


596
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,000


597
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,720


598
00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,520


599
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,800


600
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,320
Sony was pushing him to continue
<font color="

601
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,640
They were trying to get him
to finish this album, Invincible.

602
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Wasn't my business but, you know,
screw the album.

603
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520
We have to make your life
healthy again.

604
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,400
So there was a war
for the soul of Michael Jackson.

605
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,440
<font color="
labels in the world, hands down.

606
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,680
And with Michael,

607
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,080
well, there's a lot
of money changing hands.

608
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,800
So, yes, it's cut-throat.

609
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:45,360
But Sony Music was no more
cut-throat than any other label.

610
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,240
<font color="
was a contentious one

611
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,160
with his record label.

612
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,960
I was there to help facilitate
a record

613
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,760
he was putting out,
called Invincible,

614
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,200
which was his official
last studio record with Sony,

615
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,080
<font color="

616
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,600
We had rented out the entire floor

617
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
at the Plaza Hotel in New York.

618
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,640
And for anybody
who doesn't know that,

619
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,680
that is extremely expensive, crazy.

620
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,760
And he wasn't even showing up
for things.

621
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,280
<font color="

622
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000
A record company is there
to make money.

623
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,120
They are an investment firm in a way

624
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,960
who is invested in you
to produce something.

625
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,000
CHEERING

626
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
When we got the phone call that
this was, you know,

627
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,600
<font color="
expensive record we've ever made."

628
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,760
You know? And I'm like, "Oh, OK."
I'm like, "How much?"

629
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,720
"30 million." I'm like, ooh, sh...!

630
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,360
So it was kind of...
It was a problem.

631
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,080
But everybody was really trying
<font color="

632
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,160
so we could make a deadline
for album release.

633
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,360
CHEERING

634
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,360
Thank you!

635
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,760
There's one time where I was asked
to pick up a package at a house

636
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,600
that apparently was being sold
and is empty,

637
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,400
<font color="

638
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,800
And I opened it up and it happened
to be full of Demerol,

639
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,920
which is a prescription
pain medication,

640
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,480
but a lot of it.

641
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,280
It was a known thing
that you don't ask.

642
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,680
I said, "What's going...?"

643
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,240
<font color="
"Oh, OK, um, never mind."

644
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,120
But then he would go to the studio
as long as he had his magical pills.

645
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,880
But it was all so confusing
at the same time.

646
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,400
It wasn't... I'm not there to look
at someone and unwrap the package.

647
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,880
<font color="
right?

648
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,360
There were so many people
who were reliant on him

649
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,160
to be the golden goose
that lays eggs again.

650
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,560
But he knew that path was corrosive.

651
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560
It frightened me.

652
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,720
There was too much conflict going on
<font color="

653
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,560
And I, I sensed and I saw
that I was losing my influence.

654
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,360
And I told him, "I'm not going
to watch you drive your life

655
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,880
"off a cliff and clap."

656
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,040
CHEERING AND SCREAMING

657
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,600
FANS SCREAM

658
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,080
TV COMMENTARY: Invincible has sold
<font color="

659
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
and that ain't invincible.

660
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,760
The flop of Invincible, along with
a general downturn in sales,

661
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,720
means that Sony's share price
has suffered of late.

662
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,240
Michael told me, "You know what?

663
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,520
"I can't do this any more."

664
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
<font color="

665
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,200
and with touring and all of this.

666
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,600
But Sony was not happy at all
with this.

667
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600
So he knew he has to fight

668
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,720
to come out of this situation.

669
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,840
From my vantage point,

670
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,680
he got a tremendous amount
<font color="

671
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,520
But you have to understand,
they're artists,

672
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,320
they're all narcissists.

673
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,240
They can't help themselves, OK?

674
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,160
If their record's not selling,
it's someone's fault.

675
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,160
You know, if their tour's not doing
<font color="

676
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Someone is always to blame.

677
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,200
Michael Jackson is the architect
of his own destiny.

678
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Like every single human being,

679
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,640
whether you're special or not,

680
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,080
you are the creator of the reality
you live in.

681
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,280
<font color="
to go to New York City,

682
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,680
and then he's whisked off
to Al Sharpton's church.

683
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560
I personally think he was
jacked up on something.

684
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,320
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

685
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,640
Throughout the years...

686
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,880
..black artists have been
<font color="

687
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,360
APPLAUSE

688
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,600
If Sony, Tommy Mottola...

689
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,640
Tommy Mottola is the president
of the record division,

690
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,400
he is a mean, he's a racist...

691
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,480
..and he's very, very, very
devilish.

692
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,520
APPLAUSE

693
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,520
<font color="
It just exploded right there.

694
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,440
NEWS REPORTER: Sony's statement
reads,

695
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,320
"We were deeply offended by the
outrageous comments Mr Jackson made.

696
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,200
"Mr Jackson has committed
a serious abuse of power

697
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,000
<font color="

698
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,960
SHOUTING AND SCREAMING

699
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,720
Look at this.

700
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,880
CROWD SCREAMS

701
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,840
CROWD CHANTS: Sony sucks!
Sony sucks!

702
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,440
Sony sucks! Sony sucks!

703
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,200
He told me,
"Dieter, you need to help me.

704
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,560
"It's over."

705
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,320
<font color="
all his contracts

706
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,640
with his lawyers, with his team,
with everybody.

707
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,880
And he did want that
I take over everything.

708
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,280
Ladies and gentlemen,
my name is Michael Jackson.

709
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,280
And rather than writing
<font color="

710
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
I've found this format
to be most efficient

711
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,440
for what I wish to communicate.

712
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Dieter Weisner from Germany

713
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,160
and myself have entered
into an agreement,

714
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,520
an exclusive long term partnership.

715
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,120
He gave me a power of attorney.

716
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,600
<font color="

717
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,240
I legally authorise my partners
to sign on my behalf.

718
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,320
But he told me,
"Dieter, the old team,

719
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,080
"they will be after you."

720
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,480
They called once and told me,

721
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,480
"You take our golden cow

722
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,400
"and you have to stop this."

723
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,600
<font color="

724
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,680
But I was on Michael's side,
of course, and I did what he'd want.

725
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,120
I remember these words
from Michael to me.

726
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,160
"I put my life and my future
in your hand."

727
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,760
CHILD CRIES

728
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,760
Wait, wait, wait.

729
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,040
PRINCE CRIES

730
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,560
<font color="
to distributing cookies,

731
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,200
we get to see children's
real personality.

732
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Here, come here.

733
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Prince, over here,

734
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,960
before I grind you into hamburger.

735
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,040
No! You want the cookie,
you behave.

736
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,240
PRINCE CRIES

737
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,800
<font color="

738
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Paris, do you want some of this?

739
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,600
By that time,
I wasn't involved in his life.

740
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Paris, are you going to say
thank you?

741
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Turn around.

742
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,640
Paris, you want that?

743
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,240
I received a phone call from...

744
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,960
<font color="
Martin Bashir.

745
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Martin Bashir wants to interview
Michael Jackson.

746
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000
OK. You're getting the big one.

747
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,560
I got off the phone and I went to
Michael and said, "First of all,

748
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,800
"your life, it's not ready
<font color="

749
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,520
"Stay a billion miles away
from this guy."

750
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,040
But Michael was an insecure person

751
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,720
who is going to look for
the validation of the public.

752
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,160
He wanted to talk
about his whole life,

753
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,640
his career,

754
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,480
<font color="

755
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,280
So Martin Bashir followed Michael
for eight months.

756
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,000
How do you write a song?

757
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,680
How do you write a song?

758
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,320
When I wrote Billie Jean,

759
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,080
I was writing in my car
down Ventura Boulevard.

760
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,080
<font color="

761
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,520
I want to write a song
with a great bass hook, you know?

762
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,480
SINGS THE BILLIE JEAN BASS LINE

763
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,680
You know...
Where did that come from?

764
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,600
From above. The dance as well?
Yeah, same thing.

765
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,080
<font color="

766
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Can you show me how you do it?

767
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,240
Oh, boy. Come on, just get up and...
I'm shy.

768
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,280
Oh, come on, just show me.
Just show me...

769
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,440
Just show me. Show me what you do.

770
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,840
Teach me.

771
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,080
OK. Is...

772
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,440
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on the spot now.

773
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Come on. Now people are discovering
something about me.

774
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,800
I'm really shy, I'm embarrassed. OK,
you're shy. Just get up and show me.

775
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,800
Erm... OK.

776
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Michael opened the door
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777
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,360
CROWD CHANT AND CHEER

778
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,040
Michael had just had another child.

779
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,800
We was in the room together

780
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,920
and Michael heard the screaming
from the fans.

781
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,680
It was a beautiful feeling.

782
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,000
CROWD CHEERS

783
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,880
And Michael was so excited.
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784
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,480
He took Blanket...

785
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,360
..but he had him really fast
under his arm.

786
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,920
CROWD CHANTS

787
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,120
CROWD SCREAMS

788
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,680
And the next morning
I came out of my room

789
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,440
and I saw all over the newspaper.

790
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,960
That was not a nice,
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791
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,120
But, of course, Martin Bashir,
he was there.

792
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,680
I love you. Here he is.

793
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,760
But I want to give you this bottle!

794
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,200
Wait, wait. Ah!

795
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,680
Here's the bottle.

796
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,640
It's OK. Just get this off.
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797
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,360
BABY CRIES

798
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,360
OK, OK. Here we go. A-boo. A-boo.

799
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,720
A-boo! Boo, boo, boo!

800
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,720
BABY CRIES

801
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:09,080
Yes. A-boo!

802
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,640
Blank. Blank.

803
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Blank. Blank.
Blanket! I love you!

804
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,160
Blanket. Yes, yes, yes!

805
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,000
<font color="
what people have been saying?

806
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,680
It's totally ignorant.

807
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,280
I would never do that to my children
or any child.

808
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Try to kill them? Come on, stupid.

809
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,520
And why would I put a scarf
over the baby's face

810
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,160
<font color="
the balcony?

811
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,360
We were waving to thousands of fans
down below and they were chanting,

812
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,120
they wanted to see my child.

813
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,520
So I was kind enough
to let them see.

814
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,520
I was doing something
out of innocence.

815
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,840
<font color="
airs this evening,

816
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,120
these streets are going
to be deserted.

817
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,920
Fans and critics alike are saying
they're going to be staying in

818
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,520
to watch the programme.

819
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,000
With his reputation
in America very much at stake,

820
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,920
<font color="
it must be a nervous wait.

821
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960
I didn't want that we watched
the documentary

822
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,280
until I know what happened.

823
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,040
But Michael,
of course he want to see it.

824
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,880
We watched it on TV together.

825
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,720
Eight months ago, I put
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826
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:27,000
show me the real man

827
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,200
but show me everything,
make nothing off limits.

828
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,680
He thought about it and then
he said, "Yes, come to Neverland."

829
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,200
We began a journey together
across continents,

830
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,080
<font color="
the disturbing reality

831
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,680
of his life today.

832
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,280
In the documentary...

833
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,600
..was this young boy, Gavin Arvizo.

834
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,280
And he was taking care of him.

835
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,400
When people hear that children
from other families

836
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,960
<font color="
in your house,

837
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,760
they've stayed in your bedroom...

838
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,680
Well, very few.

839
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,760
But you know, some have.

840
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,760
And they say,

841
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,840
is that really appropriate for a
man, a grown man, to be doing that?

842
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,360
How do you respond to that?

843
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,400
<font color="
because that's judging someone

844
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,320
who just wants to really
help people.

845
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Why can't you share your bed?

846
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,160
The most loving thing to do
is to share your bed with someone.

847
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,640
When I saw this,
I got a very bad feeling.

848
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,880
<font color="

849
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,160
if I said, "Well, I've invited some
of my daughter's friends round,

850
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,640
"or my son's friends round,

851
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,880
"and they're going to sleep in the
bed with me tonight..." That's fine.

852
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,840
What do you think their parents
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853
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,000
If they're wacky,
they would say you can't.

854
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,840
I suppose the problem
for many people

855
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,200
is what happened in 1993

856
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,840
or what didn't happen.

857
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,440
What didn't happen.

858
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,440
One bombshell after another
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859
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,760
in a new British documentary.

860
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,960
Jackson admits he still
has sleepovers with young boys.

861
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,120
I felt...

862
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,280
..shock. Absolute shock.

863
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,680
Have you lost all touch
with reality...

864
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,680
..that you don't even know how
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865
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,960
react to that?

866
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,760
He said he slept in a bed
with children that are not his own.

867
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,800
I mean, this isn't made up,
this isn't fabricated.

868
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,120
What kind of loony would, A, do it,

869
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,640
and, B, go on national TV
and admit it?

870
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,640
<font color="
that clearly are uncrossable.

871
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,800
Sharing a bed with a child
that's not yours,

872
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,000
even if it's not sexual,
it's still insanity.

873
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,160
We got the reaction from all over,
of course.

874
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,880
It was terrible.

875
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,360
<font color="
strangers' kids.

876
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,040
As much as I love Michael Jackson,

877
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,200
I'm having a hard time
defending him right now.

878
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,080
I believe that child welfare
services should interview

879
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,720
every child that has been
at Neverland

880
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,480
<font color="
or anywhere else in the home

881
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,360
without the presence
of their parents,

882
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,640
find out what's going on.

883
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,280
He couldn't talk,

884
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,200
and he was sitting on his bed
crying.

885
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,240
What's ahead for Michael Jackson?

886
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,720
<font color="
after this? Oh, a real bumpy road.

887
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:28,560
I don't think he'll recover
from this one.

888
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,400
That documentary led directly
or indirectly

889
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,360
to Michael Jackson's death. There's
absolutely no question about it.

890
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,080
<font color="

891
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,960
Michael Jackson
wasn't the ordinary paedophile.

892
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,520
He had the means to be able
to do things

893
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,080
that no-one else I had
ever prosecuted could do.

894
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,600
An estate that was 2,800 acres,

895
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,560
and a huge house
<font color="

896
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,040
a staff that just ignored
what was going on.

897
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,960
That was unique to Michael Jackson.

898
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,520
Gavin, can you tell us
what your conversations,

899
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,200
what you guys talked about?

900
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,360
We had lost the opportunity
ten years earlier.

901
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,520
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that not happen again.


