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Huh?

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MICHAEL JACKSON: I think every child
is born to do a certain thing.

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I knew I wanted to be a...a star.

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HE GIGGLES

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Just being on the stage.

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over a sea of faces...

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CHEERING AND SCREAMING

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..when they're chanting
and screaming.

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And I wanted it.

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Because I wanted to be loved.

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That's the real truth -
I wanted people to truly love me.

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who was Michael Jackson really?

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I mean, he was a child star

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who became the most famous man
on the planet.

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LOUD CHEERING

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This is a man who changed
the music industry.

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I mean, he is a musical genius.

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of abusing children...

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..and died without a cent
to his name.

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I mean, this is the ultimate story

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of power, celebrity

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and money.

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CROWD SCREAMS

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And now the battle is raging
for the truth

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The number one artist in the world!

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That level of megastardom
is not healthy.

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People are not gods.

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Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police

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of multiple felony counts
of child molestation.

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right on rolling.

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Are you guys ready for me?

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Whenever you're ready.

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People don't know my brother.

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They never did.

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They thought they did.

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And I think it's important for

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the public, the world, to see...

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but from a family member's
perspective.

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And that's important to me,

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so you get it right
and you understand,

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as opposed to reading
nonsensical things in the media.

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I mean, you know,
in your spare time.

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Sports. Yeah.

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Messing around.

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I go swimming all the time.

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Like swimming.

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And play basketball.

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Messing around.

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My memory of Mike is

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basically a child

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that was far older than his age.

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Mike was always just feisty.

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No. Sit down.

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Now, I would like to show you...

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As young kids,
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He would stand there, and then he
would get out the picture and say,

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"No, put Jermaine here, Jackie here,
and I will be in the middle."

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And this is a little kid
talking to his siblings.

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Indiana is not like any other part

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of the state because
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One factory next
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The negro population of Gary,
Indiana is 45.8%,

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north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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Growing up in Indiana,

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it was humble beginnings.

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My father, Joseph,
worked in the steel mills.

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And we were a large family
from a small home.

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It was two bedrooms.

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slept and there were six bunk beds.

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And my sisters and I, we slept on a,
a let-out sofa in the living room.

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We were a family that loved music.

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And when Mike was around
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he would do riffs constantly

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to him, he would do it even better.

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My father, he saw them performing
together and he says,

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"Geez."

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He became their manager

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because he saw a bigger and brighter
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They used to do shows,
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was the Chitlin' Circuit.

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It was famous black artists,

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but they were performing
for a black audience.

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Don't be afraid. Don't be ashamed.

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We want black power.

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We want black power.

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We want black power.

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of time was very challenging,

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based on the fact that we were
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to certain areas of our country

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and not very welcome in some parts.

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But we learned how to deal with it

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and how to break down the barrier

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they put in front of us.

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back to Tobacco Road.

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I met Michael when they were coming
in to audition to be on Motown.

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I had to kind of just look at him
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"My God, this kid is amazing."

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It was an exciting time.

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They wanted it so badly.

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And then finally, there they are,
signed to Motown.

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from the bunch...

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Michael, he had something
that nobody else had,

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and his performances
were meticulously done.

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Watching their growth
over their years

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We've got some great guests -
the incredible Jackson 5.

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CHEERING

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One of the hottest recording groups
today is the Jackson 5.

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The only American group to have four
consecutive number one records.

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the Jackson 5 were.

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They were our Beatles,
our black royalty.

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You had Beatlemania,
you had Jacksonmania.

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SCREAMING

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REPORTER: Not since the heyday of
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seen anything like the Jackson 5,

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about to receive yet another
platinum record.

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But you have to give a lot of credit
to the original Jackson two -

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Mr and Mrs Joe Jackson.

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I decided to deal with the boys

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getting them prepared
to be in show business.

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They come to us originally
from Gary, Indiana -

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the Jackson 5.

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APPLAUSE

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It was just amazing...

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..to see this black family
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who were so famous...

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..and that you could identify with.

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Showed black people
that we can make it in America.

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ARCHIVE PROGRAMME: It's called Los
Angeles, the city of the angels.

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People from all over the world,

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of limitless boundaries

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and one that offers unlimited
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Growing up in Indiana,

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Mike would have
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that you put over your eyes
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of LA.

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He would say,
"Oh, this is so beautiful.

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"I would love to live there
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So moving to Los Angeles

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was simply amazing.

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We were so elated and excited
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And it was such a different life.

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We moved to this huge mansion

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and my father just said,

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"I think this will be
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And you know, what my father said
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Let's introduce Mr Joe Jackson,

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APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

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There you are. There you are.

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OK. We're going to find out
who's boss around here.

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Do you have to ever discipline
this lively group you've got here?

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I have a way, you know,
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we make him take out all the garbage
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Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, but what about Michael?

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If Michael...
Michael always does right?

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Is he always...?
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is sort of like,

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we don't give him as much money
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Mikey.

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Do you think it's a good profession
for them?

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Yes, I like for them to...

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I moved to Los Angeles...

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out of Joseph's office.

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When Joseph spoke to me about coming
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he presented himself as
a really concerned, loving father.

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Joseph grew up dirt poor

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before civil rights.

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And to take from nothing

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And all of a sudden, now he's living
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he's got a Rolls-Royce.

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He really was chasing
the American dream.

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At that point, they were portrayed
as this happy, loving family.

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for anybody else's,

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but my experience of what I saw,

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that was the farthest thing
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I went to high school
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and Michael was also
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and Joseph would pull in,

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you know, the speaker or the phone
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"Joseph's here," and everyone's
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We weren't that, you know,
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just weirdness.

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I found out later Joseph...

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..had done some really awful stuff.

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Joseph would put Michael
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in the dressing room, in the dark
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so that he was...he would do
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And nobody figured out
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He wasn't as cruel as people think.

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But Mike had a fear of my father,
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because we felt,
"OK, what did we do wrong?

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"He's going to discipline us."

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It just put something in your belly

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His eyebrows would grow, go up

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and his eyes would turn...

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..a deeper green,

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a deeper green than they were.

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Everybody would say, "I don't want
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"because Joseph's going to
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We're right, almost in the middle
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with the Jacksons,

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All five of them.

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Here they are.

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Now, I don't have to give any
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do I?

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You knew them originally
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They're the Jacksons now.

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They record on Epic.

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Both of our hair is kind of big.

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His face looks completely different.

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So this was earlier, I guess.

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He still looks like
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But Michael was so much
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the star.

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He just wanted to be perfect
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He wanted to be the best dancer ever

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and best singer,

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the best entertainer.

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You guys are really riding
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as far as producing records
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Do you think this is the peak
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or have you gone down a little bit?

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Are you expecting bigger
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Well, we're looking forward
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like producing other people

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and producing ourselves
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and going into acting
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LOUD TRAFFIC DIN

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most exciting city in the world,

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but New York has never seen anything
like The Wiz,

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a new musical motion picture being
made here that stars Diana Ross.

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The Wiz was the black version
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in that movie.

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My father didn't want him
to venture off into movies...

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..because he felt it would
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and he would go
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and he wanted to keep
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As he always said,
"I want to keep my boys together."

262
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But this is something that Mike saw.

263
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He loved opportunity
and he went for it.

264
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How did you feel when you heard
you got the part in The Wiz?

265
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with Diana Ross.

266
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I was very happy.

267
00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,360
I would talk to Diana on the phone.

268
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I'd say, "You're going to film
The Wiz next week, huh?"

269
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Or next month.
And she would say, "Yeah."

270
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Next thing I notice, I was in it.

271
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272
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So we moved to New York together.

273
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And going to set every day,

274
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he just embraced it with great joy.

275
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But most of all,
what he would always say,

276
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"I'm learning so much, LaToya.
You have no idea."

277
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<font color="
going to help me get down from here?

278
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,440
ALL: Help you down?

279
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,320
What is going down

280
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,800
in that hayloft you call a head?

281
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Living in New York,

282
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we were so used to being
with family,

283
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<font color="

284
00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,880
but, yeah, you could do
what you wanted.

285
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It was so wonderful.

286
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DISCO MUSIC PLAYS

287
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Is Michael there?

288
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Hi, Michael. Come on in.
You can come right in. Hi.

289
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,520
How are you?

290
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,440
<font color="

291
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,040
Michael, this is Jane Hall.
Excuse me. Come sit over here.

292
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,000
It's been a long day for you,
and you're unwinding here?

293
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,520
Erm, you mean today?

294
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,000
No. We're all finished with the
movie, but I'm just relaxing now.

295
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,280
<font color="
Yes. Studio 54!

296
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600
When you hear the name Studio 54,

297
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,960
what... What does that do?
Does your pulse quicken

298
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,520
and your feet start moving?

299
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,640
Yeah. I'm ready to have a good time.

300
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,200
It's where you come
<font color="

301
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,040
It's really escapism.

302
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,760
But you're Michael Jackson,
you don't have it so bad.

303
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,240
What are you escaping from?

304
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,800
I'm not escaping from anything.

305
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,480
It's just a change of pace.

306
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,320
Right... It is a change of pace.

307
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,040
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308
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,960
If anything, he's one of those
people who are very recognisable...

309
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Doing The Wiz

310
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,960
and all the work that he had done...

311
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,960
..and the growth
that came with it...

312
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,880
..took him mentally
in a different direction,

313
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,160
<font color="

314
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,160
By Michael doing The Wiz,
he had a chance to meet

315
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,720
great composer, arranger -
Quincy Jones.

316
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,840
And Quincy had worked with Sinatra,

317
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,680
I mean, the greatest music people
ever.

318
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,200
PHONE RINGS

319
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,200
<font color="
one day.

320
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,080
I said, "Quincy, I'm ready to do
an album, a solo album.

321
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,480
"But I want a real good producer
to work with me."

322
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,360
I said, "Can you recommend
somebody?"

323
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,720
And he said,
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324
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,320


325
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,800


326
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,040
I remember getting a copy
of Off the Wall,

327
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,360
and when I heard
Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough,

328
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:26,520
I was just astonished to hear,
"Oh, my gosh."

329
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,320
I said, "Michael,
<font color="

330
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,560
.."it's going to be phenomenal."

331
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,160
This is the album that's caused
the storm right around the world.

332
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,920
It's Michael's Off the Wall album

333
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,520
and, hopefully, we've got Michael
in LA on the phone now.

334
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,560
Let's have this. Oh, here we go.

335
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,320
<font color="
Hello. How are you?

336
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,320
He's the first artist to have
four top ten singles

337
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,360
with his Off the Wall album.

338
00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:57,080
He keeps breaking records.
It's just amazing.

339
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,400
Oh!

340
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:05,840
It had to happen.

341
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080
<font color="

342
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,960
He had earned the right to be
Michael.

343
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,040
CROWD SCREAMS

344
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,120
He felt that it's now my time.

345
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,080
CHATTERING

346
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,480
Elderly? OK.

347
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560
Let's get the mayor back here.

348
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,800
Yeah.

349
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,080
I'm rolling.

350
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,920
<font color="

351
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,840
Were you ever afraid
when you saw that big crowd?

352
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,680
Never afraid. Never afraid.

353
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,600
It's a lot of excitement and it's
nice to see the fans all come out

354
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,000
to greet us at the airport. I think
<font color="

355
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520
What do you have to say for Atlanta?

356
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,160
I'll start here.

357
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Love it, I can't wait,
tomorrow night.

358
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,200
I love it.

359
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,800
We love you, Atlanta.

360
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,240
We love you very much.

361
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,200
Tomorrow night,
<font color="

362
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280
because we're going to do our best.
Have a good time.

363
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200
INTERVIEWER: At this point, Michael
really is kind of the mainstay

364
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,320
of the Jacksons.
Has it always been that way?

365
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,760
Um, yes. Yes.

366
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,080
<font color="
sort of the star?

367
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,680
Yeah. He's been highlighted the
most cos he's the lead singer

368
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,360
and he's up front, you know.

369
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,440
As a little kid, we put him up front
because he danced so much

370
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,680
and had so much energy.

371
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,600
<font color="

372
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,640
some of them felt that
once he do this,

373
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,760
he's never coming back.

374
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,600
He's going to abandon us.

375
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:08,080
And that was kind of disturbing
to some of them.

376
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560
And then the others were just,
"Well, let's see where it goes.

377
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,280
<font color="

378
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,960
I remember the boys being
in the office,

379
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,280
and one of them distinctly said
if it wasn't for them,

380
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,520
Michael wouldn't be who he was
because they were the ones,

381
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,720
and Joseph was the one
who made Michael who he is

382
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,880
<font color="
be shit without them.

383
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,000
And it was them that built him.

384
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000
And Michael's just sitting there
listening to this.

385
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,240
And he sat there and he took it.

386
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600
I just remember thinking,

387
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,320
"How mean. Why are you guys
<font color="

388
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,240
I just, I wanted to go in
and, like, hurt them

389
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,760
because they were being mean
to Mike.

390
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,080
SHOUTING AND SCREAMING

391
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,560
I think Michael had grown up feeling
under Joseph

392
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,880
that he wasn't anything more
<font color="

393
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,840
And I think in that moment it
crystallised for Michael

394
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,080
that he was nothing more than
a commodity to his brothers.

395
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,320
And I think it broke his heart.

396
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,560
Oh, hi, Steve. I didn't see you.

397
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,640
Fine. How are you?

398
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,880
<font color="

399
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,400
he always had a very loving
relationship with my mother.

400
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,000
It was a very...

401
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360
..trusted relationship.

402
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,240
If something upset him, she would
always make sense out of everything.

403
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,880


404
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,680
<font color="

405
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,720


406
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,600
My mother
was a very religious person.

407
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760
She was a Jehovah Witness.

408
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,720
And she always thought if you had
a personal relationship with God,

409
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,720
then he would show you the way.

410
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,840
<font color="

411
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,800
I haven't lived here for many years.

412
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,400
Yeah, it was such a strange time,
you know, with Michael being

413
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,080
suddenly so famous

414
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,840
and we're just going door-to-door
trying to save souls.

415
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,720
Michael would say,

416
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,480
<font color="

417
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,920
That was his middle name,
so he wasn't lying.

418
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,400
"This is my friend Christian.

419
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,400
"We're here to talk to you about the
wonderful hope of God's kingdom."

420
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,720
And the people would kind of stare.

421
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,560
They would think,

422
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,040
<font color="
Michael Jackson.

423
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
You can kind of see it
in their eyes.

424
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,680
The Jehovah's Witnesses
are millennialists,

425
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,680
so they believe that Armageddon
is coming any day now,

426
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080
when God's going to cleanse
<font color="

427
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,440
And so our job as Jehovah's
Witnesses was to go door-to-door

428
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,200
and try to recruit people
to save them

429
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,960
so that they could join the religion
and then, you know,

430
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680
hopefully make it into the paradise
<font color="

431
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,480
Michael had a tough upbringing,
and I think that he had a, you know,

432
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,520
fantastical view of
what he wanted the world to be.

433
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,960
And I think this idea of, uh,

434
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
God bringing a paradise
just was very appealing.

435
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,960
<font color="
of his enthusiasm

436
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,000
for going door-to-door,
he genuinely wanted to tell people.

437
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,120
MICHAEL JACKSON: We did
missionary work door-to-door.

438
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,360
We did 90 hours a month.

439
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,720
It was just a wonderful time for me
<font color="

440
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,600
to get out into society
and to see people.

441
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,760
I was totally deprived
of seeing people open their doors.

442
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,800
I don't go to other people's houses.
I don't know what they live like.

443
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,360
So when they would open the door
<font color="

444
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,200
I was 15 when we started
hanging out together.

445
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600
I think he felt safe with us

446
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,320
because he had no other space
where he didn't have something,

447
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560
some place where people
wanted something from him

448
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,080
<font color="

449
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,920
We just liked him
because of who he was,

450
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,560
and that he was part of this
joint community

451
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760
where we were all working
to do God's will.

452
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,920
But at the same time, I think he was
conflicted about who he was.

453
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,560
<font color="
he was very devout,

454
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480
I think Michael had
a lot of ambition

455
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,560
around being perceived as

456
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,840
very successful, very talented.

457
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,480
He was raised in this paradigm

458
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,280
where success is how you get
validation, right,

459
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080
<font color="
he was a little kid.

460
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,720
So I don't think he ever lost that.

461
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Michael sometimes would stand
in front of a mirror

462
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,640
and say "100 million, 100 million,"

463
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640
because he was he wanted
to sell 100 million albums

464
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,200
on his next album.

465
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,200
<font color="

466
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,400
Michael's ambition, I believe,

467
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,240
was to make the
greatest album ever heard.

468
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,560
But he also knew the power
of motion pictures.

469
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,960
He wanted to use video
to drive sales.

470
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480
I mean, rock bands have been
<font color="

471
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,760
I'm not like the other guys.

472
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,520
I mean, I'm different.

473
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,080
One...

474
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,480
I'm a monster.

475
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,280
Michael, I think this is going to be
the Citizen Kane of the videos.

476
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200
I really do. It's going to be
the most revolutionary thing

477
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
<font color="

478
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,680
I mean, it's a new art form now,
but I think this is leading the way.

479
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Beat It and this one
is leading the way.

480
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,400
What a great looking kid.

481
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,240
Film-makers, they usually know

482
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,240
when they have something.

483
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,720
<font color="

484
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,120
Music video was new at that time

485
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,800
and this is pre-internet.

486
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,320
And Michael's videos were special.

487
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,600
You could tell.

488
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Some prominent black musicians
are complaining

489
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160
that they are being left out
of the video market,

490
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,320
<font color="
cable operation.

491
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,800
We are looking for a certain sound
and a certain point of view.

492
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,480
Bob Pittman is the 29-year-old
whiz kid who created MTV

493
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,120
after a successful career as a
radio station programme director.

494
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960
<font color="

495
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,320
We are cable television.

496
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,120
And what cable television does best
is specialise -

497
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,920
one thing per channel - so you know
exactly what you're getting

498
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,240
when you turn on the channel.

499
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,880
It was almost impossible for a
<font color="

500
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,120
of any of the major magazines
or TV shows.

501
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480
Over Christmas, I watched MTV.

502
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680
I saw no black star.

503
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Plenty of black stars, but only
black stars who do rock and roll...

504
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,200
And MTV refused to play
Michael's video.

505
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,560
<font color="

506
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,080
He was outraged.

507
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
It was pure, blatant racism.
Plain and simple.

508
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Prejudice is ignorance.

509
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Music has no colour.

510
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,160
I don't believe in that.

511
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,920
What I do, I don't want it labelled
black or white.

512
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,120
<font color="

513
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,640
A few of us at Epic
and the president of CBS records,

514
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,360
we all went up there and explained
why they had to play those videos.

515
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,000
They said, "You can't continue
with a programme like this

516
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,400
"without honouring some of the best
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517
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,000
"And some of the best music America
has to offer is made and performed

518
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,280
"by black artists."

519
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,200
Period. End of discussion.

520
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920
They only could look at the bottom
line and say,

521
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,800
"You can't ignore these tracks."

522
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,840
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523
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,480
..it took off.

524
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,320
TV REPORT: Michael Jackson's album
Thriller has been topping

525
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,600
various record charts,
so it should come as no surprise

526
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,800
that Thriller is number one
on Billboard's chart

527
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,040
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528
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480
Well, the title song
from that blockbuster album,

529
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400
now the subject of the most talked
about music video to come along.

530
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Take a look at this.

531
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Thriller was an amazing
piece of work.

532
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,600
Like, everybody loved it

533
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,880
<font color="

534
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920
We love you! We love you, Michael!

535
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,320
TV REPORT: Michael Jackson
was partying in New York.

536
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360
The occasion - for selling
23 million albums.

537
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,200
He exploded.

538
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Everybody wanted a piece of him.

539
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,080
<font color="

540
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,120
CHANTING: Michael! We want Michael!

541
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Michael Jackson's Thriller

542
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440
is now the highest
selling solo album

543
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,840
in the history of recorded music.

544
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,600
The number one artist in the world!

545
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,240
He is, simply put,

546
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,320
<font color="
intense performer of the decade.

547
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,040
PEOPLE SCREAM

548
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,440
You have something
within your records that

549
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,520
everybody just loves.

550
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Boy, I couldn't say.

551
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,880
I just created it.

552
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Where do you think
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553
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880
CROWD CHATTERS

554
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Ladies and gentlemen,
may I have your attention?

555
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960
I need your attention right now.

556
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,480
I am saying for the last time,

557
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,520
as chairman of the Walk of Fame,

558
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,880
if you do not back up,
<font color="

559
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120
SCREAMING AND CHEERING

560
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Ladies and gentlemen,

561
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,400
Michael Jackson!

562
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920
We welcome him to the Walk of Fame.

563
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,000
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

564
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,640
The Thriller album was fantastic.

565
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,720
It was far exceeding
anyone's expectations

566
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,440
<font color="

567
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560
and Michael was becoming sort of
transcendent as a pop star.

568
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200
But he was still very idealistic,
very devout.

569
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,600
I mean, nobody had been that famous
in the Jehovah's Witnesses yet.

570
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,600
It was very much at odds for the
<font color="

571
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440
because any kind of notoriety could
be considered controversial,

572
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,920
potentially.

573
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,280
Even his deciding to do the
Thriller video.

574
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,160
The church was very paranoid
about any demon influence

575
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,840
<font color="

576
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,680
and so zombies rising from the dead
or anything related to the occult.

577
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,440
Suddenly, the hammer came down from
the headquarters of the church.

578
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,920
And so when he realised that this
was going to be a problem for him,

579
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,400
he panicked.

580
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,000
<font color="
convictions, I wish to stress

581
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,560
"that this film in no way endorses
a belief in the occult."

582
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,280
And he had to put that at the
beginning of the video

583
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,640
in order to get the church to go,
"OK, you can release it."

584
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,320
<font color="

585
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,880
On the one hand, fame brought him
all this opportunity,

586
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,880
and I think he liked the adulation,
it was very validating.

587
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,400
But I think he started to feel
handicapped by the fact

588
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600
that he couldn't pursue
<font color="

589
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,080
that the church was constantly
tightening the screws and saying,

590
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,920
"No, you can't do this.
No, you can't do that."

591
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,000
And later on,
he just made a decision.

592
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,360
He disassociated himself,

593
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,480
which basically meant
<font color="

594
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,160
You know, I left the church in 1990.

595
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,680
And when you leave,
the church completely cuts you off.

596
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,320
You know, you lose your whole
foundation, you lose your family,

597
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,560
all of your friends.

598
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,760
You're really adrift
<font color="

599
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,160
And when he left, he lost the thing
that had grounded him for so long.

600
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,600
INTERVIEWER: How long have you had
this beautiful beast?

601
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,800
Gosh.

602
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,280
During, um... A little bit
before Thriller, I had him.

603
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,880
Probably about, almost a year.
<font color="

604
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,840
And this type of snake
is not dangerous?

605
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,280
Well, I don't think so.
Some people might.

606
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,160
Could it be dangerous?
Yeah, they squeeze.

607
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,320
They can really squeeze.

608
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,360
Erm...

609
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,960
I think he's great.
<font color="

610
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,200
After Thriller,

611
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,360
I saw a completely different
Michael Jackson.

612
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
I was his personal cinematographer

613
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,880
from 1981 to 1987.

614
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,960
And when I first met him,

615
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Michael was really humble.

616
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,760
He was a true cool dude.

617
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,520
<font color="

618
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,000
his personality started
to get a little bit different,

619
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520
more, um, eccentric.

620
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,280
PEOPLE TALK OVER EACH OTHER

621
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Step, step, step. Watch your step.

622
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,640
I could see he enjoyed
being around kids.

623
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,280
<font color="

624
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,920
Whoa!
HIGH PITCHED: Whoa!

625
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,680
We're going to do our own interview
here.

626
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,800
OK. This is the Michael Jackson
interview show. OK?

627
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,840
So, how old are you, young man?

628
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,440
No, not how old are you.

629
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,960
<font color="

630
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,400
My show is Webster.

631
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,280
And who are you playing on the show?

632
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Out of nowhere, Michael's good
friend was Emmanuel Lewis.

633
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,800
Emmanuel Lewis was a star
of the TV show Webster.

634
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,600
And then one day Michael
calls me up and he goes,

635
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,120
<font color="

636
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,640
So I get there
and he has Emmanuel with him.

637
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,040
They're dancing to one
of his new songs

638
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,280
that never, ever was released,

639
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,280
and he's holding him like a baby.

640
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,440
And I could see Michael had
a connection with children.

641
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,040
<font color="
in the room, I'm totally changed.

642
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,760
I feel their energy
and I feel their spirit.

643
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,880
When I look in their eyes,

644
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,720
I feel healed.

645
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,200
What I saw,

646
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,680
Michael liked...

647
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,920
<font color="
that they weren't domineering,

648
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,240
they weren't asking for something.

649
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,920
You know, because you had too many
of these producer bigwigs

650
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,600
coming over.

651
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,400
What I called
and what he called "suits".

652
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,560
<font color="

653
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,120
it was a different atmosphere
because they wanted something.

654
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,840
But then Michael got so big,

655
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,360
now it's just a business.

656
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,400
REPORTER: Jackson's image
has been pressed into plastic.

657
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,280
In the short six months
<font color="

658
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,240
Michael Jackson toys, dolls
and other products

659
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,040
have been selling with a fury.

660
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,600
Jackson has become
a mini conglomerate.

661
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,680
He is setting up
five separate companies

662
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
to handle his business interests.

663
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080
<font color="
concert tours,

664
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,680
merchandising tie-ins.

665
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,480
This year, Michael Jackson
is expected to earn

666
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,720
more than $50 million.

667
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,480
Michael Jackson made recording
business history today

668
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,960
by closing the deal
<font color="

669
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
From now on,
all those royalties go to Jackson.

670
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Michael Jackson has a new manager.

671
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,440
Jackson has hired the vice president
of promotion for Epic Records,

672
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Frank DiLeo,
to manage his booming career.

673
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,800
<font color="
by his father, Joseph Jackson.

674
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Mike decided to end the relationship
with my father.

675
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,240
And his thinking
and his thoughts were,

676
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,480
I need a manager who's much
bigger and better

677
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,280
and someone who really knows what
<font color="

678
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,480
But I think the part
that became difficult

679
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,080
was the people that entered
into his life

680
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,640
because this business can be very
overwhelming, cut-throat,

681
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,320
and people will say and do anything
<font color="

682
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,800
and to manage you.

683
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,720
And that part of it...

684
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,680
..destroyed him.

685
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,600
Michael Jackson has not a song
on his lips,

686
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,680
but a bottle of Pepsi-Cola.

687
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,480
This week, he signed up
for $5 million or more

688
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,480
<font color="
and commercials.

689
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,000
A lot of people are asking,

690
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,480
why would Michael Jackson
do commercials?

691
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Well, the reason is,

692
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,640
is that these commercials are
going to be just extraordinary.

693
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,000
They're using state of the art
<font color="

694
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,360
they're going to be creative
masterpieces, no expense spared.

695
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,320
They asked me to direct them

696
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,040
because I had success

697
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
and a relationship with Michael.

698
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,440
We were going to shoot
two promotional commercials.

699
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,560
<font color="

700
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,640
that he never drank Pepsi
in his life.

701
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,520
We went down there
and started shooting

702
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,320
and the plan was
there was an explosion,

703
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Michael would come down and dance.

704
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,200
Pyrotechnics added too much

705
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120
<font color="

706
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,840
LOUD BANG

707
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,400
SCREAMING

708
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,560
CONFUSED SCREAMING AND SHOUTING

709
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,160
REPORTER: The scene was wild as
hundreds of fans tried to see

710
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Michael Jackson as he was carried
into a Los Angeles area hospital

711
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,640
<font color="
on his scalp.

712
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,360
CROWD SHOUT AND SCREAM

713
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,920
I'll never forget the image
of Michael being taken away

714
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,440
in a stretcher,

715
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,320
but smart enough to take his glove,
the famous glove, and wave it.

716
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,080
But it was the beginning
<font color="

717
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,880
ECHOING SHOUTS AND SCREAMS

718
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,040
I remember in the early years,

719
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,720
Michael would just come out
and hang out.

720
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,960
It was just, it was casual,
it was normal.

721
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,440
But at that point,

722
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,280
Michael started going out
<font color="

723
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Everybody was like worried.

724
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,640
He would call all the time.

725
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,920
He would constantly reflect back

726
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,960
on things from his childhood.

727
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,720
When I went to the house
after the Pepsi burn...

728
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,120
..with Michael, there were some
times where we would talk

729
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,880
<font color="

730
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,440
and then I would say to myself,

731
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,800
"What is on his nose?"

732
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,280
And those were stitches.

733
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Physically or visually, you could
see that it had been,

734
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,880
you know, worked on.

735
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:37,040
I have a shot of Michael when he's
<font color="

736
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,520
and that was when I saw the change.

737
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,760
You know, the transition
from the Negro look

738
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,520
to look like something different.

739
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,040
It was heartbreaking.

740
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,720
Michael was trying to erase
something off of his face,

741
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,960
<font color="

742
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,960
and all the things
that Joseph said about him.

743
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,640
But I think that set Michael on
a very unhealthy pattern and path

744
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,480
for the rest of his life
when it came to,

745
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,400
uh, facial reconstruction
and his skin colour.

746
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,480
<font color="
was prepared

747
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,280
for how extreme it would get.

748
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Michael!

749
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,040
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK

750
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,640
PHOTOGRAPHERS: Michael! Michael!

751
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Michael! Michael!

752
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,760
Michael, Michael!

753
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,880
<font color="

754
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Not since Thriller five years ago

755
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,760
has the record industry been
so focused on a single album.

756
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,520
It's called Bad.

757
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,440
It's Michael Jackson and Bad
right here on Kiss FM.

758
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,400
REPORTER: They were queuing
<font color="

759
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,680
the first copies of Michael
Jackson's latest offering.

760
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,480
But after five years of comparative
seclusion, he's changed his image.

761
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,920
It's a lot of talk.

762
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,880
A lot of people are talking about it
and how foolish he looks.

763
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,560
<font color="

764
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,360
Well, the new look is not too hot,

765
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,400
but the album is great
and he's a great entertainer.

766
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,200
I was a fan of Michael Jackson
since I was a kid

767
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,520
from, you know, the Jacksons.

768
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,160
You know, I loved Off the Wall.

769
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,720
<font color="
that managed Michael Jackson.

770
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:08,440
And it was our job to manage
his career and public image.

771
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,320
I remember when I met him, like,
up close and personal,

772
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,400
I was just surprised at, like,
how white he was.

773
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,400
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almost like translucent.

774
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,400
That was good. Beautiful.

775
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,040
You know, we were wondering
if he was bleaching his skin

776
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,320
or maybe it was make-up.

777
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,600
I can remember one instance

778
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,680
and we had made this video.

779
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,720
<font color="
video,

780
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,800
we had David Fincher,
you know, direct it.

781
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,640
I remember at one point he literally
kind of broke down in tears

782
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,640
and he was kind of ranting like,

783
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,960
"I look like a monkey.
I look like a monkey."

784
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,640
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785
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,480
I mean, he looked great
in the video,

786
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,680
but in his own mind, he, you know,
he hated the way that he looked.

787
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,400
And some people mentioned, I think
it's called baking, where they,

788
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600
you know, could lighten him up
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789
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,200
I mean, that word,
"I look like a monkey."

790
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,400
First, it was kind of shocking
from him.

791
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,880
I'm thinking, here's this huge,
amazing artist,

792
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,440
and his own issues with self-image

793
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,920
actually became a form of like
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794
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,440
I remember a lot of the
black community felt

795
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,600
like he had deserted them

796
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,240
and thought that he didn't want
to be black.

797
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,720
And it was really difficult because
he was in the tabloids every week.

798
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,200
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799
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,880
First problem is the sex problem.

800
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,640
The problem being,
we don't know what sex he is.

801
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,200
AUDIENCE LAUGHS

802
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,120
The latest of the
Michael Jackson rumours -

803
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,280
are Michael Jackson
and his sister LaToya Jackson,

804
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,480
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805
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,800
I'm here with Lars Bundquist
of the IOFCIRA -

806
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,640
the Institute of Facial Changes
in Recording Artists.

807
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,120
And I understand you had a grant
for the last six years

808
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,600
to study the facial changes
in Michael Jackson.

809
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,720
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And it's been a full-time job.

810
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,480
To most of us,
he's just Wacko Jacko.

811
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,400
And if some of the press
are to be believed

812
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,160
he sleeps in an oxygen tent,

813
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,040
often with a chimp, a snake
and an alien.

814
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,920
<font color="
you don't first think

815
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,840
what a great artist,
what a definitive performer.

816
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,720
You think, what a weird guy.

817
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,920
Record stores have been reporting
disappointing sales

818
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,080
for the new album.

819
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,240
<font color="
the Bad promotional posters.

820
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,640
The Bad album had been released
in the late '80s,

821
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,960
but it hadn't been as successful
as Thriller.

822
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,480
We had to get him back to basics
as an artist, as a singer,

823
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,280
<font color="
and the trappings

824
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,920
and everything else and stuff.

825
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,880
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK

826
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,400
We had to make him more relatable
to the public,

827
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,560
to answer the questions
that people had about him,

828
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,000
<font color="

829
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,480
about everything.

830
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,280
Because up to that point, Michael
hadn't done a major interview.

831
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,880
People hadn't heard him talk,

832
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,840
people didn't know
anything about him.

833
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,280
And then Michael's managers
had this idea

834
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,520
<font color="
Oprah Winfrey interview.

835
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,360
OPRAH CHATTERS

836
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,000
And the whole objective
for that interview

837
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,320
was to humanise him to the world.

838
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Oprah was calling every day,
like five or six times a day.

839
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,400
Nothing was left to chance.

840
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,640
<font color="

841
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,520
were dependent on this
interview going well.

842
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,800
Ladies and gentlemen,
Michael Jackson.

843
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,280
Hey. Hi, Oprah. Hey, hey.

844
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,600
Well, how nervous are you right now?

845
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,200
How what?
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846
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,640
Mm, I'm not nervous at all,
actually.

847
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,880
You really aren't?

848
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,160
No, I never get nervous.

849
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,720
You don't? No.

850
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:46,600
Not even for your first interview
and it's live around the world?

851
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,440
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852
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,600
But that's great, because if you're
not nervous, I won't be nervous.

853
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,680
I just wanted to let the world
know that...

854
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,640
We were all watching it on TV,
and it was pretty eye-opening.

855
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,040
I think it really was the first time
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856
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,840
where he ever sat down
for a length of time,

857
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,160
answered the questions
that we all wanted to know.

858
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,320
and was really pretty candid.

859
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,360
I was actually surprised
how candid he was.

860
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,000
The main thing in that Oprah
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861
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,600
was his answer to his
skin colour changing.

862
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,680
The colour of your skin
is obviously different

863
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,640
than it was when you were younger.

864
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,680
And so, I think, um,

865
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,360
it has caused a great deal
of speculation and controversy

866
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,040
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or are doing.

867
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Are you bleaching your skin?

868
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,360
And is your skin lighter
because you don't like being black?

869
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,240
OK, number one,
this is just the situation -

870
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:47,880
I have a skin disorder that destroys
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871
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,520
It's something that I cannot help.
OK?

872
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,680
But when people make up stories
that I don't want to be who I am,

873
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,440
it hurts me.

874
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,320
So it is...

875
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,240
It's a problem for me, OK?

876
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,680
I can't control it.

877
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,120
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878
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,120
I'm proud to be a black American.

879
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Yes!

880
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,560
The black community
was really relieved to hear that.

881
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,800
You know, I remember people saying,

882
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640
"Oh, well, that's why it was,
of course.

883
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,760
"Of course, Michael wouldn't
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884
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,720
It makes me feel some of the pain
that he's feeling,

885
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:26,440
because I can look in his eyes
and I can see the hurt in his eyes.

886
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,680
You know, he looks like he's
so lonely and so hurt, you know?

887
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,160
And it makes me want to just
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888
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,080
And it worked.

889
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,040
And it really changed a lot
of people's perceptions of him.

890
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,600
It felt like Michael
was back on top.

891
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,880
My name is Rosibel Smith.

892
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,480
In 1993,

893
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,920
I was working the
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894
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,680
A case had come in involving
a young boy who was 13 years of age.

895
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,240
And that the perpetrator
was Michael Jackson.

896
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,640
We knew that it was going to be
a huge case.