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Our country is full of incredible makers
dreaming of turning their talent into

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money -making careers.

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It would mean everything to be able to
do this full -time.

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So, with a team of fantastic
professional mentors... I know your

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know what you're capable of doing.

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I run a one -of -a -kind bootcamp,
showing them how to do just that.

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Perfect. My Travis moment, I'll just
share that. Yes.

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Now I'm on my way to catch up with those
who have made their dreams come true.

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Hello. There he is. Hello, mate.

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I'll be hearing about their amazing
achievement.

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I've been able to put down a deposit on
a house.

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This is my full -time job.

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And finding out how much money they're
making.

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I took £20 ,000.

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In one month? In one month. About £35
,000 this year.

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So join me and meet the fabulous makers
who have transformed their lives and

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made it at market.

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You can kind of say I'm living the
dream.

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I think that's fair to say.

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Whether they're practising endangered
crafts or using

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the latest technology to create their
work, We see every type of maker at my

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bootcamp, and they're all trying to
build successful businesses from their

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skills.

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Today, we'll be checking in on the
progress of two with very different

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In a short while, we'll be visiting
woodturner Shannon, who's turned her

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into a paying profession.

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I've always had this dream of being
where I am today. To be able to have an

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actual career in heritage craft, it's
incredible.

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Before that, I'll be catching up with
shop assistant, artist and digital

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illustrator, Tasia from London.

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She came to my bootcamp in the spring of
2022 and job one was finding out

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exactly what stage she was at
commercially with her art.

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How is the business side of things
working out for you? Are you selling

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Yes, so at the end of my graduation, I
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And they wanted me to sell some prints
with them, so I've been selling through

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them. Storybook?

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Yeah, children's books as well. I did
one the other day, and it was about a

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in a forest, which I love. It was
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So, yeah, things like that. What are you
hoping your mentor is able to do for

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you? I need help on the business side. I
feel as though I've definitely found my

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style and my brand, and you can
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But what I don't know is the business
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To help Tasia build a business from her
skills, I asked her to make three

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different pieces to work out which of
them were most likely to sell.

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First up was a volume piece and she
created an illustration of a woman's

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using digital art priced at £120.

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This was art which was produced on a
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I'm at the sketching part now.

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So I've got the figure walking into her
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her walls and she's holding plants and
the story would be her coming into her

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room and just adding to her plant
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Deja spent two hours sketching, which
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illustration. She then refined it and
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I usually start with a black colour and
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brighter colours on top of darks

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textures textures of color on top of it
so you've got the full scope of the

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illustration as she created the pieces i
challenged her to produce tasia was

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guided by professional artist sharon
walters sharon's fantastic paper cuts

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mixed media collages have brought her
critical and commercial success having

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built her own art practice from scratch
she was the perfect person to help tasia

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take her work to the next level

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Tell me a bit about the colours you've
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Yes, so I always go with the same sort
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pinks, reds, oranges and yellows. And
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do also like the muted kind of colours
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I love Teja's work in terms of its
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She's really keen and she's really
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to see. So I'm really looking forward to
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With Tasia making good progress with her
digital illustration, I wanted to take

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a look at her second item.

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Before she came to my boot camp, I asked
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something she could charge a top price
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She decided to create an oil -on -canvas
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Eve. Painted over four months, it was
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And I wanted to know if Sharon thought
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Yeah, I think it's a really interesting
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storytelling of her more illustrative
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Tayshia's hoping to get £700 for that
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She doesn't create many paintings, so
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Could possibly ask for more, but if
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currently, I think that's what we should
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Back in the artist's corner, Tasia was
continuing to work on her more

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piece, the digital illustration of a
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I'm zooming in, cleaning up edges,
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to the pillows.

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I'm not particularly nervous about
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usually want the piece within a day or
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Hi, Tasia. Hi. Hi. How's it going? Going
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leaves. It's looking really good.

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So your work is generally sold through
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Yes, that's the majority, yeah. Also
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Yeah, so you don't sell your originals
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I do sell my original paintings and then
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10 or 15, and then I intend to frame it.
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already framed yeah always i wouldn't
want to see my print stuck on walls with

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blue tacks to finish tasia added her
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and turns before printing and framing
the piece her digital print took her

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hours to produce and had a price tag of
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The speed at which you were able to turn
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I think it's brilliant for a high
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able to create maybe a couple within a
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I don't think the price is the problem.
I just need you to ensure that you're

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purchasing a good frame if you are
purchasing a frame. But selling with a

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different print, it's really important
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also ensure that you've numbered the
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really adds to the quality of the work.

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Is that helpful?

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With plenty of business building
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For Tasia's final task, I asked her to
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could also be a hit with customers.

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She decided to put her tablet away and
produce a nature -inspired acrylic

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painting of a woman surrounded by
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It was a detailed piece of work, and
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arriving at the boot camp.

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Tasia, you OK?

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Hi, yeah, I'm doing good. So nice to see
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Yeah, it's a lot different than the...
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What do you prefer?

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I do find this quite therapeutic and
because I'm surrounded by leaves and

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flowers and things like that, I'm really
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Yeah, very fitting painting.

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Yeah, I'm about halfway now. Okay. So
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the colours so you can see like the
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that's like working with the green. So
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Amazing. Well, I won't distract you
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I've kind of mapped out where I want
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I'm going in with just a little bit more
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going in with colour on the leaves as
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Tasia's painting was progressing well,
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developing her skills further.

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I really like the use of the body. Have
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classes? I touched on it a few years
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I think I managed to do four classes,
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teacher really liked what I created.

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And if it's something you'd consider
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just thinking in terms of your skill set
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something you'd consider doing.

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I haven't considered it yet.

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But I think if I'm going to continue to
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should probably do.

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Tasia's acrylic painting was a vibrant
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It took her eight hours to produce and
had a price tag of £450.

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It's a really lovely painting. I like
the way that it just feels so relaxing.

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And the use of colour, it's so vibrant.

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Yeah, a real celebration of nature,
which I love. What about the price?

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I think that's a reasonable price. I
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at all. It took you quite some time to
do and it's a unique one -off piece.

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It would be great if you worked on a
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have a theme that you're working on. It

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will allow you to work on something over
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really experiment.

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I think I'll do my favourite piece of
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enjoyed doing that. That's nice. I think
that would work really, really well.

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Tasia was a multi -talented artist,
willing to explore new ideas, and we

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an action plan to help turn that
undoubted talent into a business.

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First, we wanted her to add a touch of
luxury to her packaging and a

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of authenticity for each print she sold.

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Next, she needed to get some life
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Finally, we wanted her to produce a
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experimental with her work.

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For the next two months, Tasia continued
to be guided by Sharon as she worked

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through the advice we'd given her,
beginning with making the packaging of

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prints more luxurious.

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I think this week I'm going to be
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I think I want them to be hand -signed.

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something that's a little bit more
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And I'm also going to be working on my
shipping as well because I have a few

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prints to be shipped and just working
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that's what I'll be doing this week.

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She also got some advice from Sharon
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After my chat with Sharon...

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I think I might have to create the
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because I don't have enough time to go
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be creating a floral collection here.

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I also have a commission for an
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musical theatre.

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So I'm doing that all alongside creating
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stressed out. But I have to do it.

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Sharon kind of taught me through the
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making sure that you're not doing things
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wanted to do five paintings, but I think
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I'll just see how I get on.

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For eight weeks, Tasia worked hard at
putting all of our advice into practice,

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and she came back to see us with the
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Overall, I've made £6 ,000 in
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really busy, but really good. That's
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moon. Yeah.

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Huge congratulations, because I know
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working part -time as well. You've done
an outstanding job. Well done.

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Sharon was bang on, even after taking
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Tasia was well on her way to building a
successful full -time business.

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It's now over three and a half years
since I first met her. And with her

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business going from strength to
strength, I've come to London to Tasia's

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studio to find out exactly what she's
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Hi. Hello.

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Come on in. Thank you so much. It's been
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Tasia's studio is light, bright, and
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the place of an artist who's clearly on
the up this place is brilliant thank you

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what a space you've got to work in i
think this studio is the best i've had

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i'm really i'm really grateful um that i
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it quite motivates me to come in and get
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done how is business looking Really
good. Yeah, I've been working on

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I'm doing a lot of children's book
covers and illustrations. So that could

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anywhere from 900 to 4 ,000, depending
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illustrations throughout the entire
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a huge amount of money, but I guess a
lot of work if it's a big book. It's a

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of work, yeah. What about your beautiful
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I am. I have an artist agent now and I
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It's amazing to be able to have someone
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murals as well yeah tell me about those
i love creating large scale and i've

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been able to do murals in different
communities around london what sort of

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are you doing then is this murals on
building walls or yeah um it could range

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from anywhere from schools uh
communities uh wall cafes anywhere

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that needs a new bit of life some color
that's wildly different from doing the

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small intricate delicate illustration
work yes it's a painting large scale

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in a public space yeah what's driving
the growth of your business the most is

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murals illustration or the paintings
right now i would say murals uh i'm

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uh driving my business as well as my
illustrations it's great to hear that

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tasia is selling her paintings which are
priced at 150 pounds for small ones up

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to 3 000 pounds for larger pieces

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I love that she's branched out into
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are now bringing the most money into her
business, we've travelled half an hour

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away to a community arts centre so she
can show me how she creates them.

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She's painting a nature -inspired mural
on the wall of the centre's reception,

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featuring flowers, leaves and greenery.

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Wow, this is not what I was expecting.
Oh, goodness me!

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It's called the squiggle method.

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And what it is, it's just a bunch of
random letters, numbers and symbols that

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use and mark on the wall. I take a photo
on my phone and then I take my artwork

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that I've already sketched before and
place it on top of the

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letters. Which is the coloured sections.

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Yeah. OK.

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And essentially what I need to do now is
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Okay, I think I understand. So all of
these letters and numbers and symbols in

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the dark colour are actually almost like
a grid.

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It's just giving you reference
locations.

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Yes, to make sure that things are in
proportion and everything's in the right

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place and it looks good on the wall.
That is so clever. When I first walked

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I was slightly terrified, but I can see
it now. I can see what we're trying to

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do. Yeah. I guess it's time to get the
paint out. Absolutely.

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We're going to get messy, aren't we?
Very. Yeah.

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Very messy.

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Okay.

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I'm not new to painting big spaces, but
Tasia's squiggle method is something

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I've not seen before.

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OK, I think you can start here.

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So if we look at the reference, you can
see these two yellow bits. Yeah. And we

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just need to fill this shape in blue.

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The letters, numbers and symbols on the
wall give us reference points and help

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to break down such a large piece of work
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sections.

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You're actually doing a really good job.
Thank you.

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Good technique.

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Have you painted a mural before?

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Back in my set design days, I'd be quite
often painting big walls and things,

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but never with this grid technique, this
numbers and patterns technique. I'm

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fascinated by that. It would have been
very handy.

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Tasia's design combines flowers, leaves
and shapes in six different colours.

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This is quite a luxury being indoors in
a nice warm room.

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Are you used to working on such big
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Most of them are outside, usually on
fences or brick fences. Big walls and

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things. Own challenges.

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Yeah, the texture and, you know, it
probably needs a few more coats than

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Yeah. That sort of thing. It doesn't
help when it rains either. I bet.

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This is definitely the surface that I
like to paint on. Yes, yes. And

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projects like this are going to make...

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an impact on so many people for a long
time hundreds of people are going to see

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this and smile yeah you do good if we
get it finished come on let's carry on

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depending on the size of her client's
budget the price of tasia's murals range

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from 2 000 to 8 000 pounds and the more
we paint the more i'm appreciating how

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the numbers letters and symbols she uses
to guide her designs take away a lot of

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the stress of creating such large -scale
work allowing her to concentrate on the

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details and colors she's using i think
pink might be the best color it's really

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opaque oh nice yeah god how bright that
is yeah goes on really nicely oh wow i

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like that yeah i really like it after
three hours of painting the mural has

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first coat of paint nicely done thank
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The following day, Tasia returned to
finish her mural, and it's a real

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to see that the bold colors and natural
themes she used at the boot camp are

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fueling the success of her business on
such large -scale work.

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Since I last saw her, she's taken
massive strides forwards, and as well as

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creating themed collections of
paintings, I'm keen to find out how the

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gave her three and a half years ago has
contributed to her success, and how much

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she's earning from her art now.

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When you came to my boot camp, we gave
you an action plan to help boost your

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business. One of the pointers that we
wanted you to look into was perhaps

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thinking about going to life drawing
classes.

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Have you done that? I did. I tried. And
I wanted to focus on something that I

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was more interested in. And that was the
florals.

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Drawing people were just not for you. I
think it helped with proportions,

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which... helped for my illustration but
in terms of my painting and my style and

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who and what i want to continue doing it
isn't really bodies it's forms another

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thing that we wanted you to explore was
to try and elevate the presentation of

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your prints you know maybe think of
certificates of authenticity signatures

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they i've got to say they are looking
beautiful now Yeah, I really took on

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Sharon said about the luxury element. So
now I'm more printing on giclee prints

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and I'm signing and they are limited
edition.

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And has that made a difference? I think
it has. People like when there's limited

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editions.

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I've noticed that quite a few of my
buyers are art collectors as well. So

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really helps push it.

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Tasia's action plan has helped her to
develop her business, and it's time to

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find out exactly how successful she's
become.

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Do you mind if we talk numbers, as this
is a business after all? Yeah. Once

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you've taken out your costs, how much
have you earned?

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Around 50, 50 ,000. 50? Yeah.

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A year? Yeah.

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Wow.

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I'm not surprised you're smiling.

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That is incredible.

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Thank you.

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Tasia enjoys the social part of her job
in retail, and on average she's still

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doing a couple of days a week. But
there's some news on the horizon that

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mean she takes the leap into becoming a
full -time artist.

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I have hopefully a big commission coming
soon, which would be my biggest project

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ever of 50 ,000.

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For one mural? For one mural.

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It must be a big one, I'm sure.

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It's huge, yes.

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Wow. If you need a hand, let me know.

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I'll let you know.

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Tasia's come an awfully long way since
she was at the boot camp, and it sounds

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as though she's about to take another
massive leap forward.

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Branching out into murals has
turbocharged her business, and she

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ounce of the success she's having.

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I think my achievement has really
boosted my confidence.

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Three years ago, I was sort of teetering
on being an artist. I didn't really

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know who I was or what I was doing.

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And it was because of that reflection
I'm able to be here today and say that I

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am now a professional artist.

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The second maker we'll be catching up
with today is community gardener and

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woodturner Shannon from Northumberland.

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She also came to my boot camp three and
a half years ago, hoping we could help

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her to make money from a rare skill of
turning wood on a foot -powered pole

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lathe. I come from a long line of
woodworkers. My father is a carpenter by

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and he learned from his father, so my
grandfather.

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I'm definitely ready to start my
business. I feel like I've been working

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it for quite a while.

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What is holding me back and one of my
largest barriers is my anxiety of just

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putting myself out there.

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For her volume piece, Shannon decided to
make a porringer -style bowl.

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This was a bowl she turned from birch
wood with two handles, priced at £20.

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Her first job was to split a piece of
green wood, which is wood that has just

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been cut and not dried out.

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Depending on how straight the grain is,
with the first initial cut it could

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split off, so what I'm looking for is
two half pieces so that it can be

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divided and made into two bowls that are
similar.

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After using an axe to create a rough
round bowl shape, Shannon's set to work

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turning it on her foot -powered lathe.

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As I push down, I make a cut using a
small part of the hook tool.

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And when I push up, it oscillates back
away from me so I stop the cut.

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And that's in a rhythmical fashion.

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So I'm generally keeping a steady pace
and it just gently

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creates a new line around the bowl.

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To help Shannon as she strived to make
money from her work, she was supported

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woodworker and furniture maker Alice
Blog.

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Over the past 16 years, Alice has
collaborated with a number of leading

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organizations and high street brands
from her Dorset studio, which made her a

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fantastic person to guide Shannon.

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Something that's really special about
you, Shannon, is that you're you. You're

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using this pole lathe, which not
everyone uses to make products out of. I

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in a business sense, we can use you as
something that markets, this pole lathe

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as something that markets, and really
put your confidence into selling your

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work, which also is marketable too.

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That sounds great.

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As Shannon got back to making her
Porringer -style bowl, I sat down with

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to discuss her second challenge, her
high -end piece.

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Shannon had turned another two -handled
bowl, this time from Sycamore.

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It was larger than her volume piece, so
it took longer to turn, and she priced

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it at £60.

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It's beautiful. It's got Scandinavian
style.

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I think she needs to work on her
signature detailing of it. Maybe some

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maybe some stain or a little bit of
carving.

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Ooh. Yeah, just a little je ne sais
quoi.

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A little bit of, yeah, nice. I like it.
A little bit of ping.

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So you've got Shannon's character,
Shannon's work, and that little Shannon

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little detail in it.

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Well, she's hoping to get £60 for it.

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Would you pay £60 for a bowl like that?
Oh, I'd definitely pay £60 for a Shannon

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bowl, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Back in the timber yard, Shannon had
made good progress with her volume

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I have finished the back of the bowl,
turned it round, and I've hollowed out

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inside of the bowl. And what I'm feeling
for is the thickness of the walls and

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the depth of the cuts that I'm making.

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As she powered the lathe with her foot,
Shannon kept her upper body as still as

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possible to control the hook she was
using to carve her bowl.

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It was a physically demanding job that
also required total concentration.

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OK, that'll do.

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So, across the grain, it's just going to
go...

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..and pop like that.

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That's when it flies off. So we've got a
lovely little bowl, and that's where

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it's come from.

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With the bowl off the lathe, the next
job was carving the handles.

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Small pencil stencil line so that I can
cut up to that line.

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And then I'll take out the scars with a
hook knife.

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And we're pretty much at the final
stages now.

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The handles on Shannon's bowl were both
carefully hand carved.

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To finish, she needed the bowl to dry
before adding a food grade oil to make

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usable and bring out the beautiful
colour and detail in the wood.

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I feel excited about showing Dom and
Alice my bowl.

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I'm open to criticism on my pieces. I
think it's really interesting to see the

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observations of others.

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Shannon's bowl took her three hours to
turn and finish, and she gave it a

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competitive price tag of £20.

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There's more value in your work, you
just don't realise it.

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You need your name on it. People want to
buy you.

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So you need to carve into it or milk
paint or scorch it in some way. This is

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going to make people want a Shannon
piece and come back for more and signify

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that it's you that made it. We don't
want people to just buy one of your

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We want people to come back and buy the
whole set and have cupboards full of

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them. Yeah, more and more and more.

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That sounds amazing.

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It was fantastic to see someone keeping
a heritage craft alive and there was

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definitely more value in Shannon's work
than she realised.

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To think that I'm a selling point of my
business, I'm completely flattered that

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Dom and Alice was able to portray that
to me through seeing my little volume

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piece. I think that's great.

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For her final challenge, I asked Shannon
to make her favourite piece to see if

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the item she was most passionate about
could also bring in big profits.

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She decided to turn a 6 -inch bowl from
English Alderwood, priced at £40.

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It was one of the first bowls she
successfully produced when she began

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woodturning. And with no handles, it was
the simplest of the three bowls she

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created for us.

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So what I'm going to do is use the
circle mark to identify where

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to take these edges off.

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I'm just lining it up so that I don't
get it too close to the line.

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That was close.

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Now that I've got it close to the edge,
I'm going to flatten the back

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so that I've got another reference
point.

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I've flattened off the back.

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which means I can draw a centre point
and use my compass to draw another

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00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:19,569
for the foot.

445
00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:25,310
And then using a systematic approach,
create facets down each corner and then

446
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:29,290
just chase it round until it becomes a
circular bowl blank.

447
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:34,830
After the bowl had been shaped on the
pole lathe, the wood needed to be

448
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:38,410
to dry out for up to a couple of days
and then oiled.

449
00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:44,350
What I'm going to do now is use the oil
that I've poured inside to rub around

450
00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:50,870
with my fingers and get around the
entirety of the bowl, making sure that I

451
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:54,630
don't leave any marks or spots without
the oil.

452
00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:02,790
Shannon's six -inch bowl made from
English alderwood was larger and took

453
00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:06,850
to turn than the Porringer -style bowl
she made for her volume piece, and she

454
00:30:06,850 --> 00:30:08,090
priced it at £40.

455
00:30:10,469 --> 00:30:14,530
well they're practical things i guess
you need to think um about the end user

456
00:30:14,530 --> 00:30:18,990
about what they're going to buy it to
use exactly do you have a use in mind so

457
00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:23,420
Even though it's six inch and it's quite
small, I use it mainly so that I can go

458
00:30:23,420 --> 00:30:24,420
up for seconds and thirds.

459
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:31,360
I appreciate that not everyone likes to
get up from the table once they've sat

460
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,100
down. So I think maybe for that size,
it's a good price.

461
00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:38,500
But maybe if you wanted to sell a few
more to people who may not want to go

462
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,560
seconds and thirds, then maybe a bigger
piece.

463
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,220
Shannon made all of her products with
enthusiasm and real skill, but she

464
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:48,560
to turn that into money.

465
00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:53,030
To help her, we drew up an action plan
for her to take back to Northumberland.

466
00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:58,570
First, we wanted her to find a signature
style by adding colour or distinctive

467
00:30:58,570 --> 00:31:02,030
features like scorching or unique
carving to her work.

468
00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:07,050
Next, she needed to start selling
herself, because customers buy into

469
00:31:07,230 --> 00:31:09,670
and she had a fantastic story to tell.

470
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:13,870
She could do this at markets or online
through her website.

471
00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:23,500
For the next two months, with Alice's
support, Shannon set to work building

472
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:27,600
business. And job one was developing a
signature style for her bowls.

473
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:34,560
I create nature -based inks. They're
ranging from anything using acorns or

474
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:40,960
elderberries from last year. And I'm
experimenting in using them to dye the

475
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,960
of my bowls.

476
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,760
She also worked on her website to boost
her online presence and wanted to get

477
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,020
mentor Alice's thoughts.

478
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,920
So homepage, nice that there'll be a
video. Have you thought about what that

479
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,280
I love the idea of just having a loop of
just a few cuts.

480
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,200
I think that's such a simple and really
effective idea.

481
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,440
Yeah,

482
00:32:05,060 --> 00:32:08,720
I think there was a photo you took in
the barn or somewhere with that nice

483
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,500
floor. Yeah, yeah.

484
00:32:11,150 --> 00:32:13,770
That is such nice light in there.

485
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:17,590
I think I want to take all my product
shots in there. If I go in in the

486
00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:21,550
you get the back lighting from the door.
And if I go in in the evening, you get

487
00:32:21,550 --> 00:32:25,030
a soft light from a yellow, like, from a
top lighting.

488
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:26,990
So I can play around with that.

489
00:32:27,250 --> 00:32:31,830
In the eight weeks after my boot camp,
Shannon made huge steps forward,

490
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:33,290
her business from scratch.

491
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:36,690
And when she came to report back, she
had positive news.

492
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:39,610
I've made about £300 in the past eight
weeks.

493
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Really? Yeah.

494
00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:43,360
How does that compare to before this
experience?

495
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:47,060
Well, I had only ever given my bowls as
gifts to friends and family.

496
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,500
I know, right? It's amazing. And now
you've made hundreds of pounds from

497
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:53,100
it. Well, when you say it like that, it
sounds very impressive.

498
00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:54,459
It is.

499
00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:55,460
It is.

500
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,560
It feels like a start, at least.

501
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,240
Shannon was right.

502
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,260
Selling your work is a very big first
step to take. And having done that, she

503
00:33:05,260 --> 00:33:06,820
went from strength to strength.

504
00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:12,910
Three and a half years after I first met
her, I've asked Alice to drop in on her

505
00:33:12,910 --> 00:33:16,470
to find out more about what she's
achieved and things have changed.

506
00:33:19,210 --> 00:33:20,210
Hi!

507
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:24,890
Shannon has diversified her business.

508
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:31,530
She's also left Northumberland and moved
hundreds of miles south to Somerset and

509
00:33:31,530 --> 00:33:33,730
is meeting Alice in a friend's workshop.

510
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:37,330
Love the space, Shannon. So tell me more
about how you ended up here.

511
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:42,430
Around 18 months ago, I lost my base up
in Northumberland and my workshop.

512
00:33:42,670 --> 00:33:46,110
So I moved down south, being a little
bit closer to my family.

513
00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:51,790
Since we met at boot camp, I have moved
primarily from polo training into being

514
00:33:51,790 --> 00:33:53,810
more primarily basketry based.

515
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:59,030
So this practice has got far less kit,
which means that I can be much more

516
00:33:59,030 --> 00:34:03,250
mobile and it means that I can create
pretty much anywhere on the go.

517
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:07,410
Your pole lathe is brilliant, but
there's a lot of people doing it now,

518
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:09,010
lovely for the endangered craft.

519
00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:13,330
But it seems like your basketry, there's
not as many people doing it. So it's a

520
00:34:13,330 --> 00:34:15,210
USP. It's your selling point.

521
00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:19,290
Well, yeah, in my basketry, I use
critically endangered techniques.

522
00:34:19,850 --> 00:34:26,630
So the skein or skein willow is
something that is currently potentially

523
00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:27,630
become extinct.

524
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,800
teach nationally and provide
opportunities for people to learn these

525
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,800
they can remain living.

526
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:39,780
April through to about September, I'm
able to go to craft fairs, different

527
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:44,300
greenwood festivals and different events
where I can either demonstrate or

528
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:46,540
connect with people and teach these
skills.

529
00:34:47,659 --> 00:34:52,500
Skeen willow is willow that has been
turned from round rods into thin, flat

530
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:55,199
flexible ribbons that are used for
intricate weaving.

531
00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:58,450
which Shannon teaches in her summer
basketry workshops.

532
00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:04,650
She holds them once or twice a week for
8 to 10 people per class and charges

533
00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:07,010
£100 to £150 per person.

534
00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:12,270
During the winter months, she boosts her
income by working in the forestry

535
00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:14,070
industry and selling her pieces.

536
00:35:15,830 --> 00:35:20,110
When we first met at boot camp, you
didn't even have a website, so tell me

537
00:35:20,110 --> 00:35:21,490
about how you're selling your products.

538
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:24,150
The main place that I sell is online.

539
00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:27,730
My biggest sellers are still my bowls.
That's still what I'm primarily known

540
00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:32,130
for. And they list from around £40 to
£350.

541
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:37,310
The commissions that I get usually come
in at the higher figures as well, as

542
00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:41,930
they're usually a piece for maybe a big
celebratory birthday or a wedding

543
00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:46,970
anniversary or something like that.
Whereas my baskets are catching up.

544
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:49,850
listed from around £85 to around £500.

545
00:35:50,490 --> 00:35:54,830
It's good to hear Shannon does still
sell her bowls, but with the basketry

546
00:35:54,830 --> 00:35:59,370
becoming a growing driver of her
business, she's going to show Alice one

547
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:04,010
split willow and hazelwood umbra
baskets, which she sells for £290.

548
00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:10,270
She begins by cutting rods of hazelwood
lengthways, then shaves them to create

549
00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:11,270
flexible strips.

550
00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,250
Working from the middle.

551
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:16,500
Down through the length.

552
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,260
These will eventually become the frame
of my basket.

553
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,640
You can see it's going softer now.

554
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:23,819
Yeah.

555
00:36:23,820 --> 00:36:25,420
So you can kind of feel the flex.

556
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:26,700
Yeah, wow.

557
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,700
You can really feel it go. You can feel
the middle as well, because it's not as

558
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:35,500
thin. I really enjoy this bit.

559
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:41,220
The shape of the shavings always bring
me a little bit of joy.

560
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:47,300
With the hazelwood rods ready to create
the frame, Shannon moves on to the

561
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:51,640
strips of willow that will be woven
between the rods, also known as the ribs

562
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,399
the basket.

563
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,080
This splitting the willow is part of the
basketry that

564
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,820
has the critically endangered technique
in it.

565
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:09,320
And what we do is use one willow stem
and a

566
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,680
splitter.

567
00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:14,330
And you split it three ways.

568
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:20,930
This creates the inner material. This is
one of the things that you need to make

569
00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:23,670
sure that you're thinking with your
hands instead of your mind.

570
00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:26,450
You can hear the crackle.

571
00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:34,330
The centre of the rod or the stem is
along all three. So that's what we're

572
00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:36,710
to be dressing down and making into a
thinner strip.

573
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:42,030
To make the strips of willow narrower,
Shannon passes them through a vertical

574
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:44,790
shaver, which can give her different
widths of willow.

575
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:49,690
She also passes them through a
horizontal shaver to give her the

576
00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:51,070
thinness she's looking for.

577
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:56,910
We're just going to make it sure the
same width as the other one, same width

578
00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:57,910
the other one.

579
00:37:58,770 --> 00:38:01,770
I always do the same width for a whole
basket.

580
00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:06,630
So I'll do smaller pieces for the start
of the weave.

581
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,440
Yeah. Because it's tighter spaces
between the ribs.

582
00:38:10,660 --> 00:38:15,680
Yeah. And then as the weave gets wider,
I can use wider pieces of willow. Yeah.

583
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:18,720
So you can make them really thin.

584
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:24,700
With her willow prepared, Shannon begins
weaving on a hazelwood frame she

585
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,120
prepared before Alice arrived.

586
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:30,380
Always twice around the top.

587
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:33,000
Yeah. Just locks it in a bit tighter.

588
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:40,380
Now you've moved from Paul Aiding into
your basketry, how are you telling

589
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:41,380
about this?

590
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:47,120
I have lots of different forums, social
media and places online.

591
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,240
However, mainly it's my newsletter.

592
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,960
It's located at the end of every page of
my website and I've now got up to a

593
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,240
thousand people that I'm able to have a
bit more of a personal connection with.

594
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,520
and let them know about what I've been
up to, big projects.

595
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:10,340
They'll be the first to know when any
shop is updated on my seasonal releases.

596
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,580
To keep her strips of willow soft and
flexible, Shannon keeps them in a bucket

597
00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,580
of water.

598
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,220
And after around five hours of weaving,
she reaches the final stages of creating

599
00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:23,220
her basket.

600
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,080
That should be my last piece.

601
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,320
Stay with me, little one.

602
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:33,940
I'm taking a terrace nap.

603
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,240
Including drying time for the split
hazelwood, Shannon's Umbra basket takes

604
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,460
around two to two and a half days to
make.

605
00:39:44,060 --> 00:39:50,520
It has material costs of £20 to £30 and
a price tag of £290 for a brown basket

606
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,100
and £340 for an ebonised one.

607
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:55,420
Well done!

608
00:39:56,140 --> 00:39:57,520
Thanks. Dunning!

609
00:39:59,150 --> 00:40:03,650
It's clear that diversifying her
business has been a big success for

610
00:40:03,970 --> 00:40:08,190
But I'm keen to know if the advice we
gave her three and a half years ago has

611
00:40:08,190 --> 00:40:10,530
also played a role in the growth of her
business.

612
00:40:11,310 --> 00:40:15,130
When you came to boot camp, we asked you
to find your signature style by adding

613
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:18,410
colour or distinctive features such as
scorching.

614
00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:20,410
Do you think you found this?

615
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:24,750
What I've been using is the charcoal
dyes on the bottom of my bowls and

616
00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:29,130
ebonising strips of willow to go through
the basket. So when someone sees a

617
00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:31,450
product like that, they know it's made
by me.

618
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:35,290
Something else we wanted you to do was
to sell yourself because people really

619
00:40:35,290 --> 00:40:38,490
buy into craftspeople via markets,
online.

620
00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:42,010
I still feel quite uncomfortable about
putting myself out there.

621
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:47,530
But when I take a step back and I see
how well it's been received online or...

622
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,980
at live events when i connect to people
and how quickly my seasonal updates sell

623
00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:57,400
out and how popular my mailing list is
i've done better than i thought i think

624
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:03,140
you've done really well i absolutely
agree with alice shannon has done

625
00:41:03,140 --> 00:41:07,860
incredibly well since i last saw her not
only is she making money from her

626
00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:12,360
woodturning she's moved the length of
the country and also learned a new and

627
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,720
very rare skill which is playing an
increasingly large role in her business

628
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,940
Time to find out how much money that's
all now making her.

629
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:25,480
Shannon, it's time to talk numbers. Are
you earning a living from your craft?

630
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,060
So working part -time on the craft side,
I earn about 15k a year.

631
00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:36,780
Wow, thank you. And combined with the
income from my forestry work, it means

632
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:40,360
that I do make a living and it means
that I've created a viable business.

633
00:41:41,070 --> 00:41:43,850
I never thought I'd get here. I thought
it was always going to be a side hustle.

634
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:49,830
So to be able to have an actual career
in heritage craft, it's incredible.

635
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:52,590
It's so good to hear. You must be so
proud of yourself.

636
00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:56,910
And you're only doing it for seven
months of the year. So think what you

637
00:41:56,910 --> 00:41:58,790
if you're doing it for 12 months of the
year.

638
00:41:59,070 --> 00:42:04,530
I think the future involves me taking a
step back in winter months from forestry

639
00:42:04,530 --> 00:42:09,210
and coppicing to be able to give the
craft a bit more space and time.

640
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,860
open and sell out pretty quickly and
also the interest that i have online

641
00:42:15,860 --> 00:42:19,060
that i think there's a bit more scope to
be able to develop my collection ranges

642
00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:24,300
and increase the product numbers that i
have on them the potential for shannon

643
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:29,840
to grow her business further is massive
but just 18 months after uprooting her

644
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,260
life and learning a new skill to be
earning 15 000 pounds off the cost is a

645
00:42:35,260 --> 00:42:38,440
fabulous achievement that she should be
very proud of

646
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:45,640
I've always had this dream of being
where I am today and I can't believe

647
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,760
made it here. I am really proud of my
own achievements and it means that it's

648
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,260
something that I see myself doing for a
sustainable and long career.

649
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,060
Want some help building a business that
lasts?

650
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:06,480
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651
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,480
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652
00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:14,820
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653
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:16,540
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