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Our country is full of incredible makers
dreaming of turning their talent into

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money -making careers.

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It would mean everything to be able to
do this full -time.

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So, with a team of fantastic
professional mentors... I know your

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know what you're capable of doing.

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I run a one -of -a -kind boot camp,
showing them how to do just that.

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Perfect. My proudest moment, I'll just
say that. Yes. Now I'm on my way to

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up with those who have made their dreams
come true. Hello. There he is. Hello,

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mate.

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I'll be hearing about their amazing
achievements. I've been able to put down

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deposit on a house. This is my full
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And finding out how much money they're
making.

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A little bit under £40 ,000.

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Around £50 ,000. £50 ,000? Yes.

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So join me and meet the fabulous makers
who have transformed their lives and

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made it at market.

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You can kind of say I'm living the
dream.

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I think that's fair to say.

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For a lot of makers who come to my
bootcamp, their dream is to earn enough

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from their talents.

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to make a living doing the thing they
love.

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Today, we'll be catching up with two
whose incredible skills have transformed

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their lives.

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Later, mentor Sharon will be hearing all
about teacher and fluid artist Gemma's

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success in ethics.

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Over about an 18 -month period, I had
over 200 commissions. Wow, that's

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fantastic.

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Before that, I'll be checking in with
Potter Izzy in South West London.

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I first met her in the spring of 2022
when she came to my business boot camp

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looking for help to turn her pottery
into a paying profession after giving up

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her job at an advertising agency.

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It would mean everything to be able to
do this full time.

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I mean, it's totally my passion. It's
something that I love to do. And to be

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able to spend all of my time making
beautiful pottery pieces for people to

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in their homes would be a total dream
come true.

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Izzy, to give up a well -paid commercial
job, what happened? That must have been

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quite a scary time.

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It was something that I thought about
for a while. I was in the studio. When I

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say studio, I mean the garden shed in my
parents' house. Oh, brilliant.

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Making pots on a wheel. But I was loving
it and I just thought, if I can't give

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up now and try to make the dream happen,
then when can I do it?

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To find out if Izzy had what it took to
become a successful full -time potter...

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I gave her three challenges.

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First was making a volume piece,
something she could produce quickly and

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for an affordable price.

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Izzy chose to create a set of
candlesticks priced at £28 each.

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Standing 10cm high, they were decorated
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First of all, I'm going to make the base
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And then I'm going to very loosely build
up the form with the two different

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tiers, the disc tiers that are around
the form, and then I will create the

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opening that the candlestick will fit
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I press my fingers into the clay to
create the shape.

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It's a little bit wobbly. Just come off
centre slightly.

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I'm just taking a little bit of the
moisture away from the clay.

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To help Izzy become a full -time potter,
I teamed her up with Florian Gadsby.

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Hi. Hi.

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How's it going?

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One of the country's top ceramicists,
Florian has millions of followers on

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social media, ensuring any new work he
releases sells out in minutes.

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Izzy's chosen a candlestick.

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They're very good objects to make
quickly because they require very

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finishing. You know, as long as she
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should be fine. So I think it's quite an
intelligent choice. It's different, and

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I think they're an object that I imagine
people would buy multiples of.

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While Izzy was fully focused on her
volume item, I grabbed Florian to chat

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through her second challenge.

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Before she arrived at my boot camp, I
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pricier piece.

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She chose to showcase a 10 -piece
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I think it's really interesting, you
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that you can lay out yourself and fill
with food and then, you know, you'll

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a nice meal around.

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At the moment they're all kind of one
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forward into making it, you know, a more
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could be something that's quite fun if
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a few of a different colour or they can
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Izzy was hoping to get £320 for the
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How many pieces is it, ten pieces?

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Yeah, a lot for the money. I think a
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about how they interlock, how she can
combine them and make different

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combinations, so she's putting quite a
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Back in the pottery studio, Izzy had
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collection of candlesticks.

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Making the body was a quick process, but
making the space that would hold the

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candle was a precise job.

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I've done a lot of testing to now I know
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be measured across the diameter of the
opening so that then accounting for

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shrinkage in the firing and when there's
a glaze on there, it will snugly fit a

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candlestick, a standard candlestick in
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I know that I want it to be about 2 .7,
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It actually is. That actually has never
happened to me before.

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Izzy repeated the process for the third
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The next bit of the process is for them
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weeks. Once they've dried out, I might
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sanding pad just to make sure that there
are no rough edges, and then I put my

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maker's mark stamp in on the bottom, and
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Excluding drying, firing and glazing
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minutes per piece to produce.

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With material costs of £18 for the
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I feel like you make these really
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Yeah, I mean, how long does it take you
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Between 10 to 12, 15 minutes or so.

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OK, so, I mean, the only thing I might
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really try and make them as more of a
volume piece, you could try and get that

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to five minutes or less, three minutes
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dramatically. Yeah. Maybe making a jig
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make the well faster.

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They're quite a bespoke object.

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You know, they're table centrepieces. So
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buy a couple. So, yeah, I think it's
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Both of Izzy's first two challenges got
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for her final task, I asked her to make
her favourite piece to see if the

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product she relished making the most
could also make her big money.

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Izzy chose to make a plinth, a large
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It was something that could be used as a
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large fruit bowl and was priced at £180.

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First of all, I just have to check that
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right size. So I've made these before
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28 centimetres, which is about right.

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And now I'm going to open up the middle.

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After opening up the centre of the clay,
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to create the bowl.

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This is where I use the mirror to really
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bowl as I'm pulling it out.

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Now I need to measure the width of the
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bit, which is pretty bang on.

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I want to make sure that they're all the
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making a batch of them and selling them,
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Izzy was making good progress on her
final piece, but she was keen to talk to

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Florian about marketing her work.

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Something that I know I need to develop
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I know social media can be brilliant
with that, but is there any... Other

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Other ways, or would you say...

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it's social media is the best way to do
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what i think stockists can be really
really good okay you just need to find

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that you really love and you think your
work would fit into their range of

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products you want them to be relatable
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like the person if you don't get on well
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it's not really going to work after
chatting to florian is he headed

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back to her potter's wheel to work on
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I'm going to trim off all of this excess
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bowl.

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I really love this bit. It's very
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clay come out of the turning tool.

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Having trimmed off the excess clay, Izzy
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joining it to the pedestal.

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That works well, I think.

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slip which is water and clay but i've
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which hopefully will make the two pieces
stick together a little bit more and

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now i'm going to lightly place it on
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centered that looks good the last final
little small step is just to use the

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vinegar and the flip just to go around
the edge to make sure that all of these

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little small gaps are filled in After
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weeks or so, because I want it to dry
nice and slowly, prevent any cracks.

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And then it will go in the kiln for a
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glaze it, and it would go in the kiln
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be finished.

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Izzy's plimp, finished with a tasteful
green glaze, was a real statement piece.

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It had a make time of two and a half
hours, and an asking price of £180.

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They're a nice statement piece. You
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center of attention.

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But I think there are a few things that
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glazing on the bottom near the foot, the
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know, a little bit up. And I think there
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could add to make it finish around the
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Yes. And then just things like the
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weeks to dry them. So we could talk
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drying the underside at the same time as
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things up what about the price it's
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i think it's fair to help izzy make it
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action plan to take back to london first
she needed to promote herself on social

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media to boost her profile and draw in
potential buyers next she needed to work

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at producing her pieces quicker and
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a stockist She needed to find one she
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For the next two months, Izzy had
Florian's continued support as she

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get her business off the ground.

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And she started by visiting his studio
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on social media.

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Welcome to the studio.

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Oh, wow.

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This is it.

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This is it.

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Florian talked me through how he
captures his footage in the studio.

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So he showed me the equipment that he
uses, the software he uses when he's

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editing his footage, and also gave me an
insight into how much he posts on

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social media and how he writes the
captions of his posts as well to really

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his audience engaged.

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So that was all really useful.

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Izzy also works on developing her
collection to include different colours.

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I've been thinking a lot about glazing
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next port of call will be doing a batch
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see what works well with different clay
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Up until now, I've just used the same
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But actually, I think it's time to see
what else is out there and do some

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testing for clays as well.

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Izzy threw herself into acting on every
suggestion we gave her. And two months

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later, she came back to see us with
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I made £5 ,200.

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No way.

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It's amazing from this point in your
career. Thank you. That's an awful lot

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money. Thank you. I can't quite believe
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Even after taking off her costs, Izzy
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-fledged pottery business.

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Just over three and a half years later,
I've come to her studio in South West

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London to see how she's built exactly
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Izzy, hello.

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You OK? Good, thanks. Welcome. Come in.
It's good to see you.

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Izzy's set -up has moved on a lot since
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This place is... Absolutely beautiful.
How has it come about? You started in

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your parents' shed, didn't you? I did.

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So that was my first studio. And then I
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But I outgrew that actually quite
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teaching business as well. I wanted some
space to have more pottery wheels and

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perhaps some more kilns and just like
growing that way. That's quite different

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to making though.

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to go into teaching. What brought that
on? I had kind of got to where I had

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always hoped I would be, which is being
in a lovely studio, making pots. I had

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orders from stockists, and I was selling
on my website a lot.

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That's the dream, isn't it? It was the
dream, and that is what I'd been aiming

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for. But actually, I was a little
surprised that I started to feel a

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lonely, actually, and knew that I needed
to make some kind of change to...

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to bring in some more so a social aspect
to your life yeah good on you for

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actually shifting things around moving
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much progress is made but it's great to
see she's still making the candlesticks

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which were her volume piece at the boot
camp They are my bestseller now.

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They're what I make the most of, they're
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shops but also on my website.

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The biggest retailer that I was really
excited to work with was Fortnum and

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Oh, wow. I know.

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That's huge.

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It was a bit of a dream come true,
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happen but thought it would be much
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that call came in, I was just, yeah,
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believe it.

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Having her candlesticks stocked by such
a well -known high -end shop is a

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massive achievement for Izzy.

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At the bootcamp, they sold for £28, but
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£34 for the small ones and £40 for the
larger ones.

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And they're not the only thing driving
her business forwards.

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Tell me about the courses. Which courses
do you run?

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We do a beginner course, which is one
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takes you through the full process of
making pots. And then after that, we've

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got a developer course, which is like an
intermediate course. So that's 10

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weeks. And then we have a few other kind
of sessions like taster classes. And we

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have full day courses as well.

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Might be a lot for you to do.

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It is a lot, but it's not just me
anymore because I've got a couple of

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and actually hiring a couple more at the
moment. And also I've got some studio

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assistants who help me keep everything
running. So it's not only me.

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Wow. Things have grown so much. You've
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escalated for sure.

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A growing staff, high -end stockists and
courses. Things really are going well

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for Izzy.

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Her five -week beginner courses are
priced at £270, and she charges £450 per

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person for the 10 -week developer
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It's great to see her diversifying her
business, and she's set up a mug

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so that I can try out one of her
courses.

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I'm ready. I'm ready.

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Apron's on.

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Let's do it.

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We start by throwing our clay onto the
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Controlled by a foot pedal and with wet
hands, Press the clay down before we

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start to form an upside -down cone
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We want the top of this to be slightly
domed. All up. So if you can squeeze the

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clay and just try and bring a bit of a
curve shape on the top because then

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set up to go into our cone. Yeah, very
nice. Yeah? Yeah, lovely.

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Lovely. And you're going to start
pushing through the middle of the clay

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leaning into the side, and you're
squeezing the clay between those two

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rising them up.

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And maybe let's get a little bit more
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nice. Good.

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To remove any air bubbles trapped in the
clay, we push it back down and repeat

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the process before creating a donut
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This is looking great.

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OK. You've jumped two steps.

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I love it. Have I?

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You have. This is the advanced class.
No, no, no. I wish I'd done that without

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knowing. Brilliant.

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Now we're going to compress the base. So
this is the bit that's smoothing out

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the floor.

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Up and down until you're happy that the
floor is nice and smooth.

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To pull up the walls, your middle finger
is doing most of the heavy lifting.

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Gently squeezing and keep on going all
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stop. Once you start. In one.

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And when you get to the top, you're just
gently going to release the clay from

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your hands.

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Gently come away.

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And breathe.

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How did you know?

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It's a bit of a nerve -wracking moment,
that first pull -up, thinking, oh, my

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God.

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Okay, okay, this is good. This is really
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Once I've pulled it into something that
almost looks like the shape and size of

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a mug, Izzy's got a trick to help me
tidy up the sides.

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We can use one of these kidneys to kind
of create a nice straight edge. Oh,

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nice. You're going to have your hand in
there in the middle. Yeah.

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And you're really gently pushing the
clay.

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So tilt the tool a little bit in.

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And then you can push out at the base,
really.

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I think we leave it there. Perfect. I'm
happy with that. Beautiful. I'm more

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than happy with that. You should be.

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Normally, our mugs would be allowed to
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But Izzy has helped mine by drying it
with a heat gun so we can move on to

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making the handle.

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This hand's just behind here.

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And you're going to push it on and give
it a bit of a wiggle almost, pressing

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with your thumb just to blend those
pieces in.

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Now you're going to wet your hand and
just very gently, just kind of gently

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down.

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After attaching the handle, my mug
actually looks like a mug.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I'll treasure that. I really will.

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Oh, good. For a long time.

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Good.

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Izzy's going to get my mug fired and
glazed so I can enjoy a cuppa from it

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Aside from collaborating with Stockist,
which she's been hugely successful with,

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I'm keen to find out how much the rest
of the advice we gave her at the

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has helped her to build her business.

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Izzy, when you came to the bootcamp,
Florian and I gave you an action plan

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some key pointers to try and help you
build this business.

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One of the pointers we wanted you to
work on was your social media to gain a

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following and hopefully gain customers.

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This was something that Florian really
helped me a lot with, actually. And he

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gave me a few really good tips around
posting more regularly, the kind of

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content I was posting, telling a bit of
a story behind the making process.

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And I did see a big increase in my
followers.

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Did you?

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I did. I'm now on around 44 ,000.

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44 ,000? I think. Around that. And where
were you before?

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One or 2 ,000, maybe? You gained over 40
,000 followers.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.

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That's impressive.

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Thank you so much.

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Florian was very keen for you to
increase your efficiency and the speed

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make things. I was making the
candlestick holders in about 15 minutes,

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Yeah, and he wanted under five. And he
wanted under five, which...

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Honestly, at the time, I kind of didn't
know if that could even be done.

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Yes. Are we under the five minutes,
though? I think four or five minutes is

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of how quickly I'd throw a candlestick
holder now. I'm blown away by that. Four

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minutes? From having thrown so many.

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Izzy's nailed every part of her action
plan.

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By establishing a successful teaching
business as well, she's gone even

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And I'm excited to find out how much
money she's now making.

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Do you mind if we talk figures? How much
is this all earning you at the moment?

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Based on both the teaching I've been
doing and running the business and then

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also my own making, I've made around 50
grand is my earnings.

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That's a lot of money.

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Yeah. Well done.

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You know what? You deserve every penny
of it. You're making it work.

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Thank you. Yeah, I can't quite believe
it because I'm now in a position where

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I'm earning more than I did in my
corporate job before.

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But I love what I do. So I'm, you know,
I'm just, I'm over the moon. That was a

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dream. Yeah. Three and a half years ago,
Izzy's decision to leave a well -paid

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advertising job to pursue a career in
pottery felt like a big leap.

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Now, with an income of £50 ,000 a year
from making and teaching after taking

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her costs, it's a leap that's paid off
magnificently.

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The last three years have been amazing.

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It's definitely been a lot of hard work,
but I love that I get to work with Clay

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every day and it's something that I'm
really passionate about and I'm able to

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share that with other people.

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And so overall, it's been really
amazing.

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The next maker whose progress we're
going to be checking up on is teacher

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fluid artist Gemma from Essex.

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She also came to my boot camp just over
three and a half years ago, and like

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Izzy, was hoping we could help her with
a career change.

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I'm a teacher, and I've been a teacher
for 13 years, and I love it, but it

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happened a bit by accident.

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I would have really loved to have had a
career in art, but when I was applying

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to university, I was given some advice
from a career advisor who said that

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was no chance of making a career in art,
so why bother doing it at university?

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So that really set a course for where I
am now.

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Gemma's work was a wonderful mix of
chemistry and creativity.

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Using different oils, paints and water,
she created flowing, multi -layered

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abstract pieces and had dreams of it
helping her to live a more creative

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I'm looking to completely change my
life. I'm looking to start again and

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a business that will carve out a future
for me in art.

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To help Gemma make the new start she was
hoping for, she was mentored by

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professional artist Sharon Walters.

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Sharon has collaborated with the Tate
and the National Portrait Gallery and

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keen to help Gemma turn her talent into
a successful business.

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You can see with Gemma she's actually
passionate about what she does. Her work

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is so beautiful.

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It incorporates nature and I think she
has a great approach to creating unique

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work in an abstract way.

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For her volume piece, Gemma made three
sets of fluid art coasters on slate,

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porcelain and wood, priced at £18 each.

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I love the uniqueness of this work.

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Can you talk me through the process?

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Yeah, so this is...

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a base of just a pouring medium um which
will dry clear yeah so things like pva

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glue yeah sort of um and when this dries
clear you'll be able to see the wood

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underneath so now i'm building up the
different layers this paint i've mixed

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already so it's got paint conditioner in
which creates the fluid movement and

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also means that they don't cross over
and blend unless i make them blend which

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keeps their distinct yeah How are you
getting on business life?

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At the moment, I think I've got a hobby
which pays for itself and gives me a bit

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of extra pocket money. I don't think
I've got the makings of a new life yet

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career.

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Whilst Gemma pushed on with her volume
piece, Sharon and I sat down to talk

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about her high -end item.

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She'd upcycled a small chest of drawers
she'd bought for £20.

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Decorated with a fluid art design, it
had a price tag of £200.

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I love the idea of using paintwork on a
piece of furniture, but I'm not sure

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that's the right piece of furniture.

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You know what, I completely agree with
you. When I saw the camera too, I just

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thought that would be brilliant on some
furniture. Just not that bit of

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furniture. No, not that bit of
furniture. Mid -century cleaner design,

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could just be on a piece of plywood set
in to a panel or something like that.

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There's a lot more to think about, I
think, around the furniture side of

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Back in the artist's corner.

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Gemma had reached a delicate stage in
producing one of her coasters.

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The pipette is going to create a
slightly different effect, particularly

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this is thinner.

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This looks like such a therapeutic
process.

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It's incredibly therapeutic.

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I'm going to manipulate it and move it
around. In this case, just using a

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toothpick, but you can do it with lots
and lots of different things.

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Allow a certain amount of blending so
you get this kind of marbled effect.

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Once Gemma was happy with the design,
she gave it a helping hand to set.

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The blowtorching is going to just help
it to set and also start activating in

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the looser paint colours some of the
cells.

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You can see that one's already splitting
and that one.

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And that will continue over the next
hour or so.

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So how long do they take to set?

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To get completely dry before I can
put...

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A second layer on which will be resin
somewhere about two days. Okay.

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Plain resin to protect the coaster but
also make it really glossy and really

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shiny.

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Excluding drying time, Gemma's coaster
sets had a make time of three and a half

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hours, material costs of £6 .50 and a
price tag of £18 per set.

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I actually love coasters. I can't
believe I'm admitting this but I really,

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really love coasters.

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00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:43,180
And I think these feel like more of a
luxury item.

441
00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:47,920
But I would suggest possibly having a
different kind of storage for these in

442
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,920
terms of your packaging.

443
00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:55,400
If you had maybe a wooden type storage
where these could actually sit and be

444
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,340
stored in a really good way, I think
that would work really well. And you

445
00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:00,740
charge slightly more for them that way.
That's a brilliant idea.

446
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,060
I definitely feel that I can learn a lot
from some of the feedback that I got,

447
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,360
especially from Sharon. But it was
lovely to hear that they liked them

448
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,560
when your heart and soul has gone into
something, it's good to know that that's

449
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,240
being reflected and shown to other
people.

450
00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:20,780
Sharon believed that with some tweaks,
Gemma's first two items had the

451
00:28:20,780 --> 00:28:22,900
to be popular and profitable products.

452
00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:27,380
For her third challenge, we asked her to
produce her favourite piece.

453
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,640
To discover if what she loved creating
most...

454
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,420
could win over customers too.

455
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:38,480
She chose to make a seaside triptych, a
painting made up of three separate and

456
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:45,080
in this case identically sized canvases,
showcasing a seascape priced at £130.

457
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,480
This is base coat. This has to be more
fluid than the rest of the paint that

458
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,120
going to put on because this is going to
be the medium through which everything

459
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120
else happens.

460
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,460
So if this bit isn't the right chemical
make -up and isn't the right viscosity,

461
00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:02,750
the rest... will not behave the way I
want it to.

462
00:29:03,550 --> 00:29:07,990
With her base layer complete, Gemma
started to add extra layers of paint.

463
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:12,990
This is called a Dutch pour, so we're
going to essentially cover up the paint

464
00:29:12,990 --> 00:29:19,970
and then use the hairdryer to reveal the
paint, which has this poetry with the

465
00:29:19,970 --> 00:29:25,770
actual ocean and the sand because the
wind would blow the ocean in the sea

466
00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:26,770
spray.

467
00:29:28,129 --> 00:29:32,110
As Gemma's process was so unique, Sharon
was keen to take a look.

468
00:29:32,650 --> 00:29:33,650
Hi, Gemma.

469
00:29:33,770 --> 00:29:34,990
Hi. How's it going?

470
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:39,430
Really well. Just creating this sea
effect.

471
00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:43,350
But it needs a bit of manipulation and
playing with now, so I'm going to use my

472
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:46,570
mouth and this drawer to kind of move
that around and then to move these

473
00:29:46,570 --> 00:29:50,330
as well. You can feel the movement in
the piece, and I love the use of colours

474
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:52,850
in this work. Thank you. I really love
the use of colours.

475
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,140
I think she's kind of holding on to it
like, oh, it's a bit experimental, but

476
00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:06,040
experiments can be art.

477
00:30:08,260 --> 00:30:12,020
She needs to place some value on what
she's actually doing and believe in

478
00:30:12,020 --> 00:30:13,020
herself more.

479
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,780
Gemma's seaside triptych was a beautiful
piece of abstract art and she gave it

480
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:20,440
an asking price of £130.

481
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,780
I think it's a brilliant piece of work
and really exemplifies the work that

482
00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:27,300
you've been doing. Just wonderful,
really well done.

483
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,880
How about the price?

484
00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:32,900
I think that's a really reasonable price
for an original piece of artwork.

485
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,920
In terms of where you would sell it, I
really think that it would do really

486
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,020
in a gallery, so maybe a smaller gallery
-type space.

487
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,060
By the sea? Yeah, by the sea. Yeah,
you'd get a really good market there.

488
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:46,780
So useful and just ready and raring to
go.

489
00:30:48,220 --> 00:30:52,940
As she headed home to Essex, we gave
Gemma an action plan to help make her

490
00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:55,280
of becoming a full -time artist come
true.

491
00:30:56,990 --> 00:31:01,990
First, she needed to work on more
luxurious packaging for her wooden

492
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:03,510
help boost their prices and profit.

493
00:31:04,570 --> 00:31:08,570
Next, we wanted her to contact seaside
galleries to sell her seascapes.

494
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:14,130
Finally, she needed to believe in
herself and put her art out there to

495
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:22,990
For the next two months, Sharon
supported Gemma as she worked around the

496
00:31:22,990 --> 00:31:24,710
to get her business off the ground.

497
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,020
Starting with contacting galleries.

498
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:32,420
I've been really inspired by the advice
about creating more seascape work and

499
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:36,400
targeting galleries along the seafront
for those.

500
00:31:36,620 --> 00:31:41,220
So I've been working on a few new
techniques, for example, using resin

501
00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:47,540
with silicone oil to create some really
exciting bubble effects in artworks. I

502
00:31:47,540 --> 00:31:51,300
also have been thinking about how I can
make my coaster range more upmarket for

503
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:52,269
shops.

504
00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:55,710
So this is quite difficult because I've
been working on a few different styles

505
00:31:55,710 --> 00:31:57,810
of boxes, but they do come out quite
expensive.

506
00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:04,090
To try and sell her work, Gemma
travelled to an upmarket makers festival

507
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:09,030
Oxfordshire. It was a real test of the
self -confidence she needed to develop

508
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:10,030
build her business.

509
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:13,110
And after the first day, she had good
news.

510
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:20,450
Sold my big triptych, which is great.
Really excited about that one. Also lots

511
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:21,450
of coasters sold.

512
00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:25,850
Over the next three days, the good news
kept on coming.

513
00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:30,110
The coasters have been selling really
well and a few smaller pieces of art.

514
00:32:30,110 --> 00:32:31,310
been quite a good art day today.

515
00:32:31,530 --> 00:32:35,990
Sold lots of art. Sold out of trays,
sold out of small pots.

516
00:32:36,190 --> 00:32:37,430
So it's been really good.

517
00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:43,810
In the eight weeks after my boot camp,
Gemma tackled her action plan with real

518
00:32:43,810 --> 00:32:45,070
drive and determination.

519
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:49,230
And when she reported back, she blew us
away with her progress.

520
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:51,010
How much have you made?

521
00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:57,450
I've taken £4 ,300, which is incredible.
No! Well done.

522
00:32:58,030 --> 00:32:59,030
Thank you.

523
00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:04,630
Gemma had to deduct her costs from her
brilliant sales figure, but she'd put

524
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:06,770
herself on track to having real success.

525
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,520
Three and a half years later, lots has
changed in Gemma's life.

526
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,220
Almost two years ago, she gave birth to
daughter Wren, and she's very recently

527
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:18,220
moved house.

528
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,920
She's also been working hard on her
business, and I've asked Sharon to pop

529
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,600
to find out what she's achieved and how
much cash she's bringing in now.

530
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,140
Hi, how are you?

531
00:33:29,740 --> 00:33:33,780
Good to see you. Yeah, come in. I can't
wait to see.

532
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:39,080
Up until a few days ago, Gemma was
working from her dining room table.

533
00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:44,420
But after moving house, she now has her
own studio and it's already looking

534
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:45,420
fabulous.

535
00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:47,220
This is beautiful.

536
00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:50,640
You must be so happy here. I love the
space.

537
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,340
How has this changed your practice?

538
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:57,420
Having lots more space to be able to
work on multiple things at once is going

539
00:33:57,420 --> 00:34:00,620
be a game changer. I can do big pieces,
leave them and then work on other

540
00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:03,240
things. And then hopefully once I'm
embedded...

541
00:34:03,850 --> 00:34:09,449
have more workshops i've done one um
right but in a hired village hall space

542
00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:16,010
which is great um but the problem is the
artwork has to dry for quite a few days

543
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:19,190
laying completely still so you're having
to hire a space for a much longer

544
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:23,389
period afterwards while everyone's work
is drying here i'm going to be able to

545
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:27,850
have you know 10 12 people in leave the
work dry post it to them afterwards

546
00:34:28,529 --> 00:34:32,469
those things are going to mean that I
can step back a little bit from the

547
00:34:32,469 --> 00:34:37,050
side. That's the long -term goal. After
you left boot camp, how did you manage

548
00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:38,050
to grow the business?

549
00:34:38,770 --> 00:34:41,570
It was a really steep learning curve.

550
00:34:41,989 --> 00:34:43,690
I had so many commissions.

551
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,280
Over about an 18 -month period, over 200
commissions. Wow, that's fantastic.

552
00:34:49,780 --> 00:34:54,719
Yeah. I've been selling everything
ranging from kind of £50 or £60, the

553
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,260
pieces, right the way up to over £1
,000, some of my commissions.

554
00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:04,180
Both Dom, your advice, the kickstart
that it gave me, made such a difference.

555
00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:06,580
So what pieces are selling the best for
you?

556
00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:13,460
Art -wise, the smaller pieces, the 30cm,
20cm panels, they're kind of £50, £60.

557
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,840
coasters. I was selling them in fours
but I've moved to two of those and I

558
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,500
them for about £18 for a pair.

559
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:25,580
It's great to hear that the coasters
Gemma made for her volume piece are

560
00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:26,580
popular.

561
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:30,980
Along with her commissioned work like
this triptych which has recently sold

562
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:36,600
£385 and the big blue wave canvas for
£442.

563
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:40,320
She's also been busy developing new
pieces.

564
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:47,010
and now makes 3d art priced between 80
to 800 pounds depending on size jemma's

565
00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:52,670
going to show sharon how she makes one
called droplets on petals she starts by

566
00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:58,030
rolling out air drying clay wets the
board which forms her canvas with water

567
00:35:58,030 --> 00:36:03,970
begins to create the petals the idea is
that you essentially see what happens

568
00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:07,900
organically with the clay You're kind of
going to have a bit of a play.

569
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Play with the clay. Yeah.

570
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,080
I'm seeing kind of how things feel as
I'm moving it around.

571
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:21,120
And because I'm going for petals with
water that's going to sit in them, I

572
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,020
it to take this kind of organic shape.

573
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:28,500
I'm going to take some part out and then
this is me moulding it then to the

574
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,520
board. I have to make these little
grooves.

575
00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:33,750
which I'll sand down because otherwise
the resin and the paint will just all

576
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:34,569
pour off.

577
00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:38,810
If I want this area to pull paint and
resin, then this needs to be lower.

578
00:36:39,070 --> 00:36:41,930
What's been your biggest successes since
boot camp, do you think?

579
00:36:42,350 --> 00:36:48,710
I've had successes with major
commissions, selling things that are

580
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:51,550
having people come back, purchase again
and again.

581
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:55,810
Successes like being able to move into
the studio. This is a pretty massive

582
00:36:55,810 --> 00:36:57,890
success because being able to run.

583
00:36:58,580 --> 00:37:02,260
workshops for larger groups of people
i've got 20 28 people at the moment so

584
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:07,780
good but obviously like the biggest
success that's happened since i thought

585
00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:13,340
laughed with i had my daughter it wasn't
even an art thing as the clay needs

586
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:18,400
around a week to dry jemma's prepped one
that's already dried sanded and primed

587
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,620
with a water repellent layer ready for
painting the next stage is to paint the

588
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:30,480
background yeah which is this nice kind
of neutral color the paint has to be

589
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,800
mixed with various different paint
conditioners if you want to create

590
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,640
effects so imagine you wanted a blue
paint to sit slightly on top of a white

591
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,580
paint it would need to be a different
thickness so i think i'm

592
00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:46,310
Pretty much there with the background.
So I'm going to add the colour now. Do

593
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:47,670
you feel excited with this bit?

594
00:37:47,950 --> 00:37:50,490
I do feel excited, but it's a scary bit.

595
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:54,890
You can't do this bit again if it goes
wrong. You can lift the clay back up,

596
00:37:54,890 --> 00:38:00,010
can, you know, clean resin off, but this
is a do -or -die moment, really.

597
00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:02,430
And here I am, peering over your
shoulder.

598
00:38:02,890 --> 00:38:06,210
No pressure, Gemma, but just do it
really well. Yeah, just don't mess up.

599
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:09,190
Gemma, I'm wishing you well.

600
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,660
A combination of pre -mixed coloured
paints are poured into a mini tray and

601
00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:15,980
applied to the clay shapes.

602
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:24,500
She then uses a hairdryer, straw and

603
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:29,800
palette knife to move the colours across
the canvas to look like petals.

604
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,280
Interesting seeing this process.

605
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,420
Finally, a blowtorch helps pop any air
bubbles that have formed in the paint.

606
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:44,650
This will have to stay completely still
for a week until it dries.

607
00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:48,850
I've had artworks that I've laid down to
dry, gone to bed, go up in the morning,

608
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:52,870
and they weren't completely flat, and
all the paint just slid off, destroying

609
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:55,470
it, and all that work's gone. Yeah,
exactly.

610
00:38:55,870 --> 00:39:00,370
To show Sharon the finishing touches,
Gemma's prepared another piece that's

611
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:05,570
already dried and adds silicone oil and
resin to create the effect of water

612
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:06,570
droplets.

613
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,320
What the silicone oil does is repels the
resin, like water and oil, basically,

614
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,780
so that it creates this bubble effect.

615
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:23,960
After all of the tiny droplets have been
placed meticulously, it's going to take

616
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,320
a few days for the resin to cure, and
after that, you have a finished piece.

617
00:39:30,820 --> 00:39:35,580
Gemma's Droplets on Petals 3D canvas has
material costs of £42.

618
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,020
a make time of around three weeks and is
priced at 340 pounds it's great to see

619
00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:47,100
her having the confidence to produce new
work as well as hearing about all her

620
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:51,800
success and i'm keen to find out how the
action plan we gave her at the boot

621
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,180
camp three and a half years ago has
helped to build her business and improve

622
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:57,180
bank balance

623
00:39:57,710 --> 00:40:03,210
One of the things we asked you to do was
to maybe upscale your packaging for

624
00:40:03,210 --> 00:40:08,030
your coasters. Have you stuck to that?
What I ended up doing was upscaling for

625
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:12,090
different environments. So I packaged
them in different ways depending on

626
00:40:12,090 --> 00:40:13,090
they're going to.

627
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,540
But the actual full -blown boxes worked
out quite expensive.

628
00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:19,520
So I moved away from that eventually.

629
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:23,120
But, yeah, I've still taken that message
on board and created different

630
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,120
packaging overall.

631
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Another thing that I mentioned to you
was that it was really important that

632
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,200
started to believe in yourself more and
to really put your art out there. It

633
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,380
looks as though you've done that.

634
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:36,940
Having worked with lots of people for
commissions now, I have confidence in

635
00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:39,640
process, in getting positive feedback
from people.

636
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:41,580
That's really supported that confidence.

637
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:45,780
I think when you try something new, it
knocks you down a peg. You have to

638
00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:46,940
rebuild the confidence again.

639
00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:49,900
So ebbs and flows with that. Of course.

640
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,200
I do think, even if you don't realise
it, you are far more confident than you

641
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,100
were. So it's great to see. Really good
to see.

642
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,320
Thank you.

643
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,960
I agree with Sharon.

644
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Gemma's built her confidence and a
business with old favourites, new pieces

645
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,180
workshops. I can't wait to find out what
it all means for her finances.

646
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:16,280
When you were at boot camp, one of the
main things you wanted to do was to make

647
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,940
money. How have you gotten on with that?

648
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:21,860
Obviously, I had my first year after
boot camp, then I had my daughter.

649
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,100
So I've really only returned this year
back to full pelt next phase of the

650
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:28,100
business.

651
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,180
I'm on track this year after cost to pay
myself about £35 ,000.

652
00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:35,700
Wow, that's fantastic. How do you feel?

653
00:41:35,980 --> 00:41:40,880
I feel delighted. I was really nervous
post -maternity because it went so well

654
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:47,600
before. I was like, you know, that's the
belief thing. You think, am I the same?

655
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,120
Are people going to buy back into me?

656
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,500
And so after maternity leave, having
things pick back up incredibly, it felt

657
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:57,580
really exciting, but it's validating.

658
00:41:58,540 --> 00:42:02,700
The art has worth. It has worth for me,
and it also has worth to other people.

659
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Earning £35 ,000 a year off the costs so
soon after returning to work following

660
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,940
the birth of her daughter is a
phenomenal achievement for Gemma.

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She currently still works three days a
week as a teacher, but is on course to

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fulfilling her dream of becoming a full
-time artist.

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The last three and a half years have
been a bit of a roller coaster. Post

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camp, I had the most amazing pickup in
business and it was such a steep

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curve. Since having my baby, I've had to
start all over again and coming to

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where I am now, starting this next
phase, it's up from here. That's how it

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feels.

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Building a creative business takes more
than just talent.

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You need resilience and ability to think
on your feet and a real focus on

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exactly what you want your business to
be.

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Over the past three and a half years,
Gemma and Izzy have proved that they've

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got all of these things in spades. And
I've absolutely no doubt they'll both go

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on to even bigger and better things.

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Want some help building a business that
lasts?

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Visit the Open University's interactive
guide for practical help to sustain and

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grow your business.

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Scan the QR code on the screen or visit
connect .open .ac .uk forward slash

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I made it at market.

