1 00:00:00,007 --> 00:00:02,820 UFOs with extraordinary capabilities are present in our skies, 2 00:00:02,845 --> 00:00:05,601 according to a team of former US Government insiders. 3 00:00:05,626 --> 00:00:08,754 This program features military eyewitnesses 4 00:00:08,779 --> 00:00:11,571 describing these unidentified craft for the first time. 5 00:00:12,426 --> 00:00:14,428 Tonight, on Unidentified: 6 00:00:15,841 --> 00:00:16,997 Oh my gosh, dude! 7 00:00:17,022 --> 00:00:18,145 There's a whole fleet of them. 8 00:00:18,170 --> 00:00:19,304 I'll never forget those voices. 9 00:00:19,329 --> 00:00:21,172 You know those voices? I know those guys, yeah. 10 00:00:21,348 --> 00:00:23,148 If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, 11 00:00:23,173 --> 00:00:24,844 I don't know if I would've believed it either. 12 00:00:24,869 --> 00:00:27,462 It was basically a sphere with a cube inside. 13 00:00:27,487 --> 00:00:30,165 So now, these objects have a global presence. 14 00:00:30,190 --> 00:00:31,626 That thing is hauling ass. 15 00:00:31,651 --> 00:00:32,652 Exactly my point. 16 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:35,190 The Pentagon has confirmed the existence 17 00:00:35,215 --> 00:00:37,908 of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program 18 00:00:37,933 --> 00:00:40,175 that studied UFOs and they released video. 19 00:00:40,781 --> 00:00:42,495 They're going against the wind. 20 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,847 My gosh! 21 00:00:44,756 --> 00:00:45,849 For eight years, 22 00:00:45,874 --> 00:00:50,177 Lue Elizondo ran a secret UFO Program for the US Military. 23 00:00:50,202 --> 00:00:52,881 But in 2017, he quit in protest. 24 00:00:53,202 --> 00:00:55,037 I put my entire future on the line 25 00:00:55,062 --> 00:00:56,623 because I believe in what I believe in. 26 00:00:56,926 --> 00:00:58,387 Now he's joining an elite group 27 00:00:58,412 --> 00:01:00,497 of former government insiders. 28 00:01:00,530 --> 00:01:03,957 Their mission, reveal what they say is the truth about UFOs. 29 00:01:04,263 --> 00:01:06,912 US airspace is being violated by vehicles 30 00:01:06,937 --> 00:01:09,169 of unknown origins with advanced capabilities. 31 00:01:10,482 --> 00:01:11,554 This is real and we're gonna 32 00:01:11,579 --> 00:01:12,733 get to the bottom of it. 33 00:01:12,758 --> 00:01:14,989 If people knew these unidentified vehicles 34 00:01:15,014 --> 00:01:18,446 are operating within minutes of the DC area, 35 00:01:18,713 --> 00:01:20,228 they would say, "excuse me, 36 00:01:20,253 --> 00:01:22,120 isn't this something we ought to pay attention to?" 37 00:01:38,660 --> 00:01:39,787 How's our friend? 38 00:01:40,138 --> 00:01:40,802 Is he okay? 39 00:01:40,974 --> 00:01:42,170 He's really nervous. 40 00:01:42,195 --> 00:01:44,115 We've got him set up in a motel nearby. 41 00:01:44,140 --> 00:01:44,662 Sure. 42 00:01:44,687 --> 00:01:46,054 This is a big moment for him. 43 00:01:46,086 --> 00:01:47,202 He's going to be the first guy 44 00:01:47,227 --> 00:01:48,617 on his ship to come out. 45 00:01:48,642 --> 00:01:51,186 He has expressed his desire to have a conversation 46 00:01:51,211 --> 00:01:54,117 about something that seems almost extraordinary. 47 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:55,948 Can certainly make you nervous. 48 00:01:56,621 --> 00:01:58,455 Lue Elizondo is on his way to meet 49 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,049 an active duty Navy fighter pilot, 50 00:02:00,366 --> 00:02:02,566 who has agreed to disclose, for the first time, 51 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:05,897 details of an extraordinary series of UFO encounters, 52 00:02:06,103 --> 00:02:09,464 captured on video over the Atlantic Ocean in 2015. 53 00:02:10,353 --> 00:02:12,855 With Elizondo is veteran Navy pilot, David Fravor, 54 00:02:13,347 --> 00:02:15,142 who says he had a similar UFO encounter 55 00:02:15,274 --> 00:02:17,220 in 2004, over the Pacific. 56 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:19,812 It's great that he's agreed to talk with us. 57 00:02:20,144 --> 00:02:22,086 I would start with what he was doing that day. 58 00:02:22,214 --> 00:02:23,382 Let him tell his story. 59 00:02:30,641 --> 00:02:31,508 Hey Ryan, how are you? 60 00:02:31,533 --> 00:02:32,836 I'm Lou. Nice to meet you, Lou. 61 00:02:32,861 --> 00:02:34,407 It's taken weeks of negotiating 62 00:02:34,432 --> 00:02:35,767 to convince the pilot to talk. 63 00:02:36,028 --> 00:02:39,252 Appreciate you taking the time to speak with us. 64 00:02:40,248 --> 00:02:41,434 Elizondo hopes having one 65 00:02:41,459 --> 00:02:43,084 of the most respected pilots in the Navy 66 00:02:43,109 --> 00:02:45,537 with him will put the younger pilot at ease. 67 00:02:45,871 --> 00:02:46,705 Two V one, huh? 68 00:02:46,995 --> 00:02:48,246 That's not a fair fight. 69 00:02:49,428 --> 00:02:51,180 Lieutenant Ryan Graves has spent a decade 70 00:02:51,205 --> 00:02:53,807 training Navy pilots and flying bombing missions. 71 00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:56,134 As a combat section lead, 72 00:02:56,251 --> 00:02:58,461 he twice deployed to the Middle East and holds 73 00:02:58,571 --> 00:03:00,094 a degree in aerospace engineering. 74 00:03:00,135 --> 00:03:01,681 Go ahead; let's start from the beginning. 75 00:03:01,747 --> 00:03:03,220 Well, simply put, I don't really know 76 00:03:03,245 --> 00:03:04,106 where the beginning is. 77 00:03:05,890 --> 00:03:07,591 In the summer of 2014, 78 00:03:08,006 --> 00:03:10,913 Lieutenant Graves was based out of Naval Air Station Oceana, 79 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:12,132 in Virginia Beach. 80 00:03:15,607 --> 00:03:17,964 Lieutenant Graves says his squadron, the Red Rippers, 81 00:03:18,684 --> 00:03:21,521 was running training exercises up and down the East coast, 82 00:03:21,948 --> 00:03:24,293 when they started to pick up mysterious radar tracks. 83 00:03:24,318 --> 00:03:25,729 We didn't really think a lot of 'em, 84 00:03:25,754 --> 00:03:27,658 other than the fact that maybe they were just, 85 00:03:28,753 --> 00:03:30,902 just part of the radar itself, 86 00:03:30,927 --> 00:03:33,128 not necessarily natural, physical object. 87 00:03:33,235 --> 00:03:34,884 Was there any difference between the aircraft 88 00:03:34,909 --> 00:03:40,064 you were flying in 2015, versus what he was flying in 2004? 89 00:03:40,551 --> 00:03:43,449 We had upgraded electronics, radar systems. 90 00:03:43,474 --> 00:03:45,018 It's a generational difference. 91 00:03:45,043 --> 00:03:45,871 It's a big deal. Is it, 92 00:03:45,896 --> 00:03:47,761 Huge, huge increase in capability. 93 00:03:48,617 --> 00:03:49,868 The pilots wondered if their 94 00:03:49,893 --> 00:03:51,533 new radar system was malfunctioning, 95 00:03:51,721 --> 00:03:54,697 until they saw one of the unidentified objects up close. 96 00:03:55,177 --> 00:03:56,510 Walk me through that moment. 97 00:03:56,535 --> 00:03:58,369 Were you there or was it one of your colleagues? 98 00:03:58,473 --> 00:03:59,527 It was one of my colleagues, 99 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:01,370 so I didn't hear about it until they landed. 100 00:04:01,526 --> 00:04:04,726 Did he give you size, color, texture? 101 00:04:04,792 --> 00:04:07,127 It was basically a cube, inside of a sphere, 102 00:04:07,152 --> 00:04:08,416 where the points of the cube 103 00:04:08,629 --> 00:04:11,041 were touching outside the sphere. 104 00:04:13,194 --> 00:04:14,543 You've got now two different things. 105 00:04:14,568 --> 00:04:16,716 You guys got cubes with balls, where on the West coast, 106 00:04:16,741 --> 00:04:17,833 we got flying Tic-Tacs. 107 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,334 You'll sometimes get phantom tracks where, 108 00:04:22,661 --> 00:04:24,141 it's seeing something that's not there. 109 00:04:24,166 --> 00:04:25,898 That's what we thought when they're working for 110 00:04:25,923 --> 00:04:27,751 some of the time, until you see them physically. 111 00:04:27,853 --> 00:04:29,431 The entire of them with your eyeballs. 112 00:04:29,799 --> 00:04:31,924 It's not like I'm seeing a bright, physical object. 113 00:04:32,003 --> 00:04:34,594 I'm literally just seeing a flash shine out there. 114 00:04:34,946 --> 00:04:36,602 Wherever we were, they were there, 115 00:04:36,627 --> 00:04:38,073 so that could mean two things. 116 00:04:38,098 --> 00:04:39,840 That could mean they were already there, 117 00:04:39,984 --> 00:04:41,621 or they were following the strike group. 118 00:04:42,835 --> 00:04:46,057 By 2015, Lieutenant Graves claims his pilots 119 00:04:46,408 --> 00:04:49,338 were encountering bizarre craft almost every time they flew. 120 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,971 You know it's one thing 121 00:04:50,996 --> 00:04:52,525 if one person sees one of these objects. 122 00:04:52,616 --> 00:04:53,787 I'm like okay, that's crazy. 123 00:04:54,362 --> 00:04:56,480 But when you go up there every day and you see 'em, 124 00:04:56,505 --> 00:04:58,737 and your brothers and sisters in other squadrons 125 00:04:58,762 --> 00:05:00,760 are seeing them, it's like, okay, well, 126 00:05:00,785 --> 00:05:03,382 this is probably some type of maybe drone thing 127 00:05:03,407 --> 00:05:04,809 or something that they're testing out. 128 00:05:05,818 --> 00:05:07,778 It wasn't until someone actually saw one go 129 00:05:07,803 --> 00:05:10,200 in between two aircraft, at a close range, 130 00:05:10,225 --> 00:05:11,599 probably within 150 feet, 131 00:05:11,687 --> 00:05:13,638 that it was starting to get worrisome. 132 00:05:14,875 --> 00:05:16,812 Lieutenant Graves says when one of the objects 133 00:05:16,991 --> 00:05:18,882 nearly caused a terrifying mid-air collision, 134 00:05:20,222 --> 00:05:23,401 senior pilots in his squadron decided to act. 135 00:05:24,728 --> 00:05:26,751 At this point, we're like, something needs to be done. 136 00:05:27,054 --> 00:05:29,757 We submitted a safety report to the Navy Safety Center. 137 00:05:30,259 --> 00:05:32,119 They'd been seeing these things for two months. 138 00:05:32,144 --> 00:05:33,431 Multiple people have seen 'em, 139 00:05:33,456 --> 00:05:34,674 multiple people have tracked 'em. 140 00:05:34,891 --> 00:05:36,471 You get one that splits a section. 141 00:05:37,437 --> 00:05:40,187 Enough to send out your mishap report to safety center. 142 00:05:41,114 --> 00:05:44,184 Did anyone contact you and say, what is going on? 143 00:05:44,209 --> 00:05:44,715 No. 144 00:05:44,740 --> 00:05:46,512 No investigation, no nothing? 145 00:05:46,537 --> 00:05:46,951 No. 146 00:05:49,797 --> 00:05:51,453 We have a video I'd like you to see. 147 00:05:51,578 --> 00:05:54,266 Without telling you anything about it, 148 00:05:54,366 --> 00:05:56,125 I'm gonna be curious your thoughts 149 00:05:56,442 --> 00:05:58,467 and you can tell me what you see. 150 00:05:58,998 --> 00:06:01,037 These three UFO videos were released 151 00:06:01,062 --> 00:06:01,826 by the Pentagon. 152 00:06:02,181 --> 00:06:04,587 The one on the left has already been identified 153 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:07,159 as the 2004 incident involving David Fravor. 154 00:06:08,339 --> 00:06:10,625 The source of the other two had remained a mystery. 155 00:06:12,538 --> 00:06:14,475 Whoa! Got it! 156 00:06:15,326 --> 00:06:17,561 This video has come to be know as Go Fast, 157 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:20,302 and shows an object speeding just above the water. 158 00:06:22,733 --> 00:06:24,101 The other is known as Gimbal. 159 00:06:25,281 --> 00:06:28,383 The sensor is on a Gimbal underneath the aircraft 160 00:06:28,408 --> 00:06:30,236 and it can rotate to maintain a track. 161 00:06:31,322 --> 00:06:32,509 There're going againts the wind. 162 00:06:32,681 --> 00:06:34,337 My gosh! 163 00:06:35,197 --> 00:06:36,939 There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the ASA. 164 00:06:39,811 --> 00:06:41,051 I'll never forget those voices. 165 00:06:41,076 --> 00:06:42,561 You know those voices? Yeah. 166 00:06:42,586 --> 00:06:44,249 It's a breakthrough in the investigation. 167 00:06:45,034 --> 00:06:47,119 For the first time, a pilot has confirmed that 168 00:06:47,144 --> 00:06:50,062 the two unidentified videos, Gimbal and Go Fast, 169 00:06:50,455 --> 00:06:52,608 were taken by Navy jets from the Theodore Roosevelt. 170 00:06:52,701 --> 00:06:54,405 We're getting ready for deployment, 171 00:06:54,430 --> 00:06:56,766 so, we do workups along the Eastern seaboard. 172 00:06:57,524 --> 00:06:59,180 And these objects kind of came with us. 173 00:06:59,547 --> 00:07:00,945 Lieutenant Graves says both Gimbal 174 00:07:00,970 --> 00:07:03,187 and Go Fast were filmed within weeks of each other, 175 00:07:03,369 --> 00:07:05,515 over the Atlantic, off Jacksonville, Florida. 176 00:07:07,694 --> 00:07:09,783 And as Lieutenant Graves squadron was preparing 177 00:07:09,808 --> 00:07:11,245 to deploy to the Middle East, 178 00:07:11,636 --> 00:07:13,698 they were seeing so many mysterious objects, 179 00:07:14,201 --> 00:07:16,861 they started sharing the videos when they got back on ship. 180 00:07:16,947 --> 00:07:18,513 They were obviously very excited about 181 00:07:18,538 --> 00:07:20,451 what happened and then they were heading down 182 00:07:20,476 --> 00:07:22,154 to watch the full videos in its entirely. 183 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:24,389 If there's parts of this video that we can talk about 184 00:07:24,499 --> 00:07:26,681 that aren't here, let's walk through that. 185 00:07:27,168 --> 00:07:29,965 So this object was significantly larger 186 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:31,731 than the ones we were used to seeing. 187 00:07:31,756 --> 00:07:33,637 Lieutenant Graves says the Gimbal video 188 00:07:33,923 --> 00:07:36,106 is just part of a longer, higher-resolution video 189 00:07:36,131 --> 00:07:37,381 he was shown on the ship. 190 00:07:37,925 --> 00:07:39,681 It included several smaller craft, 191 00:07:39,950 --> 00:07:41,534 the kind he was more familiar with. 192 00:07:42,474 --> 00:07:44,636 They were essentially flying themselves in a formation. 193 00:07:45,489 --> 00:07:46,973 And then, behind those 194 00:07:47,622 --> 00:07:50,184 was the object that you see here 195 00:07:50,353 --> 00:07:52,540 and I'm not the world's greatest drawer-- 196 00:07:52,565 --> 00:07:53,915 That's okay. But as you can see here, 197 00:07:53,940 --> 00:07:55,409 it almost looks like a gyroscope, right, 198 00:07:55,434 --> 00:07:56,368 the way it moves. 199 00:07:56,393 --> 00:07:57,948 Mm-hmm. The points coming out 200 00:07:57,973 --> 00:08:00,145 of the top and bottom would appear to be a disc 201 00:08:00,170 --> 00:08:02,106 or at least a central mass on the object. 202 00:08:02,438 --> 00:08:05,266 So, these objects were proceeding in one direction. 203 00:08:05,935 --> 00:08:08,271 The five, at some point, 204 00:08:08,466 --> 00:08:09,926 basically just turned themselves around, 205 00:08:09,951 --> 00:08:11,919 with some type of radius to turn as a unit, 206 00:08:12,687 --> 00:08:14,022 and started flying that direction. 207 00:08:14,584 --> 00:08:16,976 At this time, it's pretty much where you see this video, 208 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:18,733 where these are now out of the picture 209 00:08:18,881 --> 00:08:20,575 and it's just this guy that's stationary. 210 00:08:21,095 --> 00:08:22,661 Is that why they refer to them 211 00:08:22,686 --> 00:08:23,895 as there's a whole fleet of them? 212 00:08:24,061 --> 00:08:24,520 Yup. Okay. 213 00:08:24,816 --> 00:08:26,303 So there wasn't a whole fleet of these. 214 00:08:26,328 --> 00:08:27,685 There was just all these little guys. 215 00:08:27,873 --> 00:08:29,078 And then, there's the one object, 216 00:08:29,103 --> 00:08:30,258 which we had never seen before, 217 00:08:30,283 --> 00:08:31,508 which was significantly larger. 218 00:08:32,308 --> 00:08:34,197 Lieutenant Graves says the way the larger craft 219 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:37,462 suddenly rotates at 90 degrees is unlike anything 220 00:08:37,487 --> 00:08:38,416 he had ever seen. 221 00:08:38,535 --> 00:08:40,213 Look at that thing. 222 00:08:40,238 --> 00:08:41,129 It's rotating. 223 00:08:42,243 --> 00:08:43,727 It's just basic airplane physics. 224 00:08:43,854 --> 00:08:46,282 When your wings are underneath you and you're flying along, 225 00:08:46,307 --> 00:08:47,509 you have 100% of your lift. 226 00:08:48,249 --> 00:08:50,698 And if you turn yourself all the way like this, 227 00:08:50,882 --> 00:08:52,897 kind of knife-blading, you have none of the lift 228 00:08:52,922 --> 00:08:54,147 that your wings would provide you. 229 00:08:54,202 --> 00:08:56,960 So the fact that he would just get himself on his wingtip, 230 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,889 with no turn, while staying at exact same point, 231 00:09:00,834 --> 00:09:02,310 isn't how aircraft work. 232 00:09:03,086 --> 00:09:05,888 Ryan Graves is an aerospace engineer 233 00:09:05,992 --> 00:09:07,146 when he's not a pilot. 234 00:09:07,528 --> 00:09:10,301 So, when Ryan is telling you that there is something 235 00:09:10,326 --> 00:09:12,777 up there that he doesn't know how it works, 236 00:09:13,285 --> 00:09:15,089 and it is not one of our aircraft, 237 00:09:16,839 --> 00:09:17,636 you need to listen. 238 00:09:18,249 --> 00:09:20,686 What's fascinating and interesting about these objects 239 00:09:20,711 --> 00:09:22,577 is that they're up there when we take off, 240 00:09:23,109 --> 00:09:24,781 they're doing their thing for one hour 241 00:09:24,806 --> 00:09:26,617 and half, maybe two hour flight, 242 00:09:27,162 --> 00:09:29,937 and then we land and my buddy that takes off 243 00:09:29,962 --> 00:09:31,579 an hour later is seeing the same things. 244 00:09:32,852 --> 00:09:33,576 This is important. 245 00:09:34,316 --> 00:09:36,406 Now we're looking at something that can stay stationary 246 00:09:36,431 --> 00:09:39,500 over a geographic point and 120 knots of wind. 247 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:41,823 They're all going against the wind. 248 00:09:41,848 --> 00:09:43,404 The wind's 120 knots to the west. 249 00:09:43,889 --> 00:09:45,020 Can rotate around 250 00:09:46,067 --> 00:09:48,129 then can accelerate above supersonic. 251 00:09:48,402 --> 00:09:49,589 As a top gun guy, 252 00:09:50,846 --> 00:09:52,636 have you seen something like that before? 253 00:09:53,215 --> 00:09:53,862 No. 254 00:09:54,229 --> 00:09:57,848 No, I'm, I'm pretty baffled right now. 255 00:09:59,137 --> 00:10:00,731 Coming up on Unidentified 256 00:10:01,606 --> 00:10:04,770 What Lieutenant Graves says next stuns Elizondo and Fravor. 257 00:10:05,410 --> 00:10:06,762 At least 50 or 60 people saw 'em. 258 00:10:06,787 --> 00:10:08,347 I've talked to people from other squadrons 259 00:10:08,372 --> 00:10:09,394 and it's the same story. 260 00:10:09,564 --> 00:10:10,758 And ever more startling is where 261 00:10:10,783 --> 00:10:12,547 the UFOs appeared next. 262 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:22,559 There are people out there that you know right now 263 00:10:22,584 --> 00:10:24,731 that you could pick up the phone and they would say, 264 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:28,546 yeah, that was something that we routinely encountered. 265 00:10:28,835 --> 00:10:30,514 Oh yeah, at least 50 or 60, yeah. 266 00:10:30,706 --> 00:10:32,561 50 or 60 individuals? Easily. 267 00:10:34,056 --> 00:10:36,115 Lue Elizondo and veteran Navy fighter pilot, 268 00:10:36,140 --> 00:10:38,548 David Fravor, are learning new details about 269 00:10:38,573 --> 00:10:40,407 an extraordinary case caught on camera. 270 00:10:45,309 --> 00:10:47,699 Active duty Navy pilot Lieutenant Ryan Graves 271 00:10:48,167 --> 00:10:50,294 says a fleet of UFOs followed his carrier 272 00:10:50,357 --> 00:10:52,348 from the summer of 2014 273 00:10:53,147 --> 00:10:54,364 into 2015, 274 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:55,903 off the East coast, 275 00:10:57,642 --> 00:10:59,395 The reason Lieutenant Graves is speaking out 276 00:10:59,420 --> 00:11:02,395 is because he's concerned about his comrades 277 00:11:02,582 --> 00:11:04,544 and he's concerned about national security. 278 00:11:05,283 --> 00:11:08,754 And he's seeing a system which is failing to react. 279 00:11:09,165 --> 00:11:11,324 Chris Mellon is a former Deputy Assistant 280 00:11:11,349 --> 00:11:12,985 Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. 281 00:11:13,212 --> 00:11:16,493 If people in the DC area knew that within minutes 282 00:11:17,261 --> 00:11:20,068 of their location, these unidentified vehicles 283 00:11:20,093 --> 00:11:23,269 are operating seemingly without regard to 284 00:11:23,469 --> 00:11:25,462 our air defense capabilities, 285 00:11:25,993 --> 00:11:26,734 operating at will, 286 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:28,484 just minutes from the nation's capital, 287 00:11:28,509 --> 00:11:31,514 I think they would say, "uh, excuse me, 288 00:11:31,539 --> 00:11:33,454 isn't this something we ought to pay attention to?" 289 00:11:35,124 --> 00:11:37,031 The incidents had disturbed Lieutenant Graves 290 00:11:37,056 --> 00:11:38,100 and his fellow pilots, 291 00:11:38,909 --> 00:11:40,571 but what happened in the months following, 292 00:11:41,019 --> 00:11:42,571 would raise the stakes even higher. 293 00:11:44,518 --> 00:11:47,613 In March 2015, the Theodore Roosevelt was deployed 294 00:11:47,638 --> 00:11:50,255 to the Arabian Gulf, when suddenly, 295 00:11:50,449 --> 00:11:52,997 Lieutenant Graves says, the UFOs reappeared. 296 00:11:53,187 --> 00:11:54,949 We did have issues with them when we actually 297 00:11:54,974 --> 00:11:56,051 went out to the Middle East. 298 00:11:56,076 --> 00:11:58,035 Not in the transit, but once we actually settled 299 00:11:58,060 --> 00:11:59,340 out into the Middle East. 300 00:12:03,405 --> 00:12:04,443 In the Middle East, 301 00:12:05,247 --> 00:12:07,139 one of the targets of US firepower 302 00:12:07,478 --> 00:12:09,259 was the Russian Allied Syrian government. 303 00:12:10,571 --> 00:12:13,071 Were the unidentified objects tracking the Navy jets, 304 00:12:13,508 --> 00:12:15,570 actually next generation Russian drones? 305 00:12:18,660 --> 00:12:20,386 No one really knows, you know, what they are, 306 00:12:20,411 --> 00:12:23,746 but if it was an aircraft, if it was a MIG, 307 00:12:23,852 --> 00:12:26,890 if it was any type of enemy aircraft, 308 00:12:27,278 --> 00:12:28,571 it'd probably be a pretty big deal. 309 00:12:29,782 --> 00:12:31,645 That airspace is exclusive use airspace 310 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:33,839 that we use out there, over the oceans, 311 00:12:34,023 --> 00:12:36,779 for tens of F18s going every day. 312 00:12:37,332 --> 00:12:38,566 We've got these things showing up, 313 00:12:38,591 --> 00:12:39,871 you've got these things showing up, 314 00:12:39,896 --> 00:12:40,919 that are following the ship. 315 00:12:40,944 --> 00:12:42,513 And no one's... No one seems to really care. 316 00:12:42,538 --> 00:12:43,833 At least pull in the data to go, 317 00:12:44,034 --> 00:12:46,170 if ten F18s come back and say, yeah, 318 00:12:46,195 --> 00:12:47,780 we're seeing these things all over, 319 00:12:47,805 --> 00:12:49,367 you would think someone would prompt to go, 320 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:51,342 hey what is going on? 321 00:12:51,828 --> 00:12:54,577 So you have objects off the coast of San Diego, 322 00:12:55,111 --> 00:12:58,226 you have objects, potentially, off the coast of Virginia, 323 00:12:58,713 --> 00:13:01,751 and these objects now, somewhere over the Middle East. 324 00:13:01,776 --> 00:13:05,548 But now, the objects have potentially a global presence, 325 00:13:05,864 --> 00:13:07,033 not a regional presence, 326 00:13:07,058 --> 00:13:10,465 a global presence to be wherever they wanna be. 327 00:13:11,450 --> 00:13:12,448 Yeah. I'm fascinated that 328 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,815 over 60 people have seen these things and it's just 329 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,512 become like the accepted norm. 330 00:13:17,634 --> 00:13:19,199 I appreciate what you guys are doing, 331 00:13:19,601 --> 00:13:22,040 trying to hunt down these answers for guys like me. 332 00:13:24,117 --> 00:13:26,117 Do you know, if there's anybody else who has 333 00:13:26,142 --> 00:13:28,578 had some interesting experiences like this, 334 00:13:28,928 --> 00:13:29,727 we'd love to know. 335 00:13:29,752 --> 00:13:31,170 We wanna know what this is. 336 00:13:40,073 --> 00:13:41,612 In the 2004 Nimitz incident, 337 00:13:42,201 --> 00:13:43,901 Navy pilots went head-to-head 338 00:13:44,098 --> 00:13:45,474 with a Tic-Tac shaped object. 339 00:13:48,324 --> 00:13:50,849 Ten years later, The Roosevelt pilots 340 00:13:50,874 --> 00:13:52,552 say they encountered three different craft: 341 00:13:56,288 --> 00:13:57,553 a cube inside a sphere, 342 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:00,342 a large disc-shaped UFO, 343 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:03,169 and a smaller round object captured here. 344 00:14:03,775 --> 00:14:05,224 We used to call 'em Foo Fighters. 345 00:14:05,249 --> 00:14:07,623 That's what they used to call unidentified flying objects 346 00:14:07,648 --> 00:14:09,663 during World War II that the guys saw. 347 00:14:10,910 --> 00:14:13,394 During the war, mysterious flying objects 348 00:14:13,614 --> 00:14:15,159 were reported by American pilots 349 00:14:15,608 --> 00:14:16,942 over Europe and the Pacific. 350 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:21,169 These Foo Fighters were often described as small spheres, 351 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:23,825 similar to what was seen by the Roosevelt pilots 352 00:14:24,173 --> 00:14:25,235 70 years later. 353 00:14:26,663 --> 00:14:28,634 We seem to be dealing with more than one phenomenon, 354 00:14:29,024 --> 00:14:31,571 where they're from, who's operating, what their intent is. 355 00:14:31,608 --> 00:14:32,748 Maybe there are, in fact, 356 00:14:32,773 --> 00:14:35,875 multiple sources that are competing and contending 357 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:37,234 that are developing these craft. 358 00:14:37,937 --> 00:14:40,602 In either case, it's hard to find 359 00:14:41,423 --> 00:14:44,017 a prosaic explanation 360 00:14:44,515 --> 00:14:47,063 for a carrier battle group being shadowed 361 00:14:47,158 --> 00:14:50,552 by unidentified aircraft all the way across the Atlantic 362 00:14:51,272 --> 00:14:55,116 to an area of operations overseas in the Middle East. 363 00:14:55,844 --> 00:14:59,532 It makes an extremely compelling case for the existence 364 00:14:59,557 --> 00:15:02,852 of technologies that we didn't even think were possible. 365 00:15:04,317 --> 00:15:05,762 So Jeff, we're gonna play the video. 366 00:15:05,787 --> 00:15:07,467 I'd like your opinions on what we're seeing, 367 00:15:07,492 --> 00:15:08,187 play by play. 368 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:09,980 The Navy's UFO videos are 369 00:15:10,005 --> 00:15:12,370 so potentially explosive that Elizondo 370 00:15:12,395 --> 00:15:14,948 wants an independent analysis of what exactly they show. 371 00:15:17,091 --> 00:15:18,543 Retired Marine Lieutenant Colonel, 372 00:15:18,568 --> 00:15:21,325 Chris Cooke spent a career flying fighter jets. 373 00:15:22,081 --> 00:15:24,528 Ross Aimer flew commercial aircraft for decades 374 00:15:24,553 --> 00:15:27,401 and consults for the National Transportation Safety Board. 375 00:15:29,207 --> 00:15:31,233 I don't wanna give you too much information 376 00:15:31,258 --> 00:15:32,769 on these videos up front. 377 00:15:32,865 --> 00:15:34,992 I think it's important that we look at this information 378 00:15:35,078 --> 00:15:36,529 without too much background. 379 00:15:37,499 --> 00:15:38,717 Elizondo's already asked them 380 00:15:38,742 --> 00:15:41,211 to analyze the 2004 footage from the Nimitz. 381 00:15:41,779 --> 00:15:43,898 But now he wants their take on the two videos 382 00:15:44,006 --> 00:15:45,874 from the Roosevelt in 2015. 383 00:15:49,862 --> 00:15:52,745 The Go Fast video was 33 seconds long and shows 384 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:54,916 a round craft that appears to be streaking 385 00:15:54,941 --> 00:15:56,465 across the ocean's surface. 386 00:15:59,011 --> 00:16:00,987 Whoa! Got it! 387 00:16:01,659 --> 00:16:02,355 Woohoo! 388 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:07,237 What a fuck is that thing? 389 00:16:07,262 --> 00:16:08,480 Did you box moving target? 390 00:16:09,636 --> 00:16:10,808 No, it's in autotrack. 391 00:16:10,833 --> 00:16:11,417 Oh. Okay. 392 00:16:12,427 --> 00:16:13,911 Oh my gosh, dude. 393 00:16:14,404 --> 00:16:15,583 What is that, man? 394 00:16:15,608 --> 00:16:16,481 Look at that flying! 395 00:16:19,267 --> 00:16:20,236 That thing is hauling ass. 396 00:16:20,299 --> 00:16:21,619 That's exactly my point. 397 00:16:21,644 --> 00:16:23,572 It's a little less than 2/3rds the speed of sound. 398 00:16:24,493 --> 00:16:26,816 But how was the craft able to fly so fast? 399 00:16:27,689 --> 00:16:29,969 The infrared sensor shows the object as cold. 400 00:16:30,884 --> 00:16:33,024 If this were some type of aircraft 401 00:16:33,140 --> 00:16:35,809 with a conventional propulsion system, 402 00:16:35,834 --> 00:16:39,404 we would definitely see some type of heat signature. 403 00:16:39,429 --> 00:16:41,967 Everything we know about propulsion systems 404 00:16:41,992 --> 00:16:43,788 is they create an intense amount of heat. 405 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:47,320 Typically when an airplane moves out of the way 406 00:16:47,345 --> 00:16:51,110 or tries to maneuver or evade. 407 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:53,751 It will typically go to full power 408 00:16:53,908 --> 00:16:56,579 and everything we know about propulsion systems 409 00:16:56,604 --> 00:16:58,673 is they create an intense amount of heat, 410 00:16:59,038 --> 00:17:02,243 afterburner in particular for the F-18, 411 00:17:02,386 --> 00:17:05,772 you know, can extend 30 feet behind the airplane. 412 00:17:06,537 --> 00:17:09,916 So if it was a conventional type aircraft 413 00:17:10,507 --> 00:17:13,849 you would most definitely see some type of an IR 414 00:17:13,874 --> 00:17:17,077 signature ploom behind the airplane. 415 00:17:17,102 --> 00:17:20,203 Well that seems to me as a lay person, 416 00:17:20,468 --> 00:17:22,640 I mean I don't know how far that thing is away 417 00:17:22,665 --> 00:17:23,991 but it seems kind of sudden, 418 00:17:24,016 --> 00:17:26,140 it seems like it's all of a sudden here 419 00:17:26,728 --> 00:17:29,915 and starts to drift to the left and then boom 420 00:17:30,054 --> 00:17:31,032 Fired away 421 00:17:31,204 --> 00:17:31,657 Gone 422 00:17:31,682 --> 00:17:33,837 Now, here's the interesting part 423 00:17:33,862 --> 00:17:37,517 of this geometric problem is if it is close 424 00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:40,221 that for that object to move 425 00:17:40,293 --> 00:17:44,066 if it is at a pretty significant range 426 00:17:44,429 --> 00:17:48,183 for it to move off that quickly, that's very fast. 427 00:17:48,786 --> 00:17:51,905 And if it is far away to move that quickly. 428 00:17:51,993 --> 00:17:52,973 It's even faster 429 00:17:54,511 --> 00:17:56,872 Wow, very very interesting. 430 00:17:56,957 --> 00:17:58,589 There is no known aircraft that can 431 00:17:58,614 --> 00:18:00,768 stay aloft for long without a source of lift 432 00:18:00,793 --> 00:18:01,684 and propulsion. 433 00:18:05,933 --> 00:18:06,824 Look at that thing dude. 434 00:18:08,114 --> 00:18:10,355 The Gimbal video is even more baffling 435 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:11,208 to the experts. 436 00:18:11,587 --> 00:18:13,797 It shows a craft mid-air that rotates 437 00:18:13,953 --> 00:18:16,176 into a near perpendicular position to the ground. 438 00:18:18,625 --> 00:18:20,125 Dude, this is a fucking drone, bro. 439 00:18:21,711 --> 00:18:23,601 There's a whole fleet of them. Look at the ASA. 440 00:18:24,727 --> 00:18:25,219 My gosh. 441 00:18:27,476 --> 00:18:28,851 They're all going against the wind. 442 00:18:28,891 --> 00:18:30,789 The wind is 120 knots to the west. 443 00:18:31,258 --> 00:18:32,234 Look at that thing, dude. 444 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,648 It's rotating. 445 00:18:35,312 --> 00:18:36,648 The strange way the object turns 446 00:18:36,673 --> 00:18:38,804 in mid-air confuses both experts. 447 00:18:39,539 --> 00:18:42,204 It is definitely rotating, it appears to be, 448 00:18:42,443 --> 00:18:44,148 or changing angle of bank. 449 00:18:44,434 --> 00:18:45,850 And it appears to have stopped 450 00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:48,043 moving quickly across the horizon. 451 00:18:48,398 --> 00:18:51,208 And yet, it doesn't lose any altitude. 452 00:18:51,267 --> 00:18:53,413 It doesn't seem to be dropping. 453 00:18:53,729 --> 00:18:56,883 Sadly, with all the experience that you think we have, 454 00:18:57,251 --> 00:18:58,219 I can't figure it out. 455 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,548 Well, I certainly can't, Chris? 456 00:19:01,917 --> 00:19:02,807 No, I have no idea. 457 00:19:03,663 --> 00:19:06,362 I've always kind of been skeptical about aliens 458 00:19:06,387 --> 00:19:09,733 and UFOs and things like that. 459 00:19:09,939 --> 00:19:13,024 But I've never seen anything remotely 460 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:14,571 like what I saw today. 461 00:19:14,604 --> 00:19:18,565 I'm a lot more convinced now that these vehicles do exist. 462 00:19:19,566 --> 00:19:21,291 Coming up on Unidentified. 463 00:19:21,824 --> 00:19:23,949 First three words that spring to mind 464 00:19:23,974 --> 00:19:27,527 are: bizarre, incredible and unacceptable. 465 00:19:41,343 --> 00:19:42,608 Good morning, Lu, welcome. 466 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,686 How you doing today? Very well, thanks. 467 00:19:46,073 --> 00:19:47,803 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary 468 00:19:47,828 --> 00:19:49,643 of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, 469 00:19:50,195 --> 00:19:52,877 has convinced a powerful group of lawmakers to meet 470 00:19:52,902 --> 00:19:55,616 with him about ongoing military encounters with UFOs. 471 00:19:56,592 --> 00:19:58,475 But first, Lue Elizondo is briefing him 472 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,453 on the latest breakthrough in their investigation. 473 00:20:00,478 --> 00:20:02,631 What I'd like to do is show you a short highlight 474 00:20:02,656 --> 00:20:04,523 of an interview that we did recently 475 00:20:04,548 --> 00:20:06,477 with an active duty pilot. 476 00:20:07,739 --> 00:20:09,469 Elizondo had convinced a Navy pilot 477 00:20:09,494 --> 00:20:11,059 to go public with the story behind 478 00:20:11,084 --> 00:20:14,658 two unidentified Pentagon UFO videos, captured off Florida. 479 00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:17,912 Where the Nimitz was occurring in the Pacific, 480 00:20:19,139 --> 00:20:21,598 we have now very similar incidents 481 00:20:22,368 --> 00:20:23,615 occurring in the Atlantic. 482 00:20:24,495 --> 00:20:26,248 Before I say any more, 483 00:20:26,273 --> 00:20:29,531 why don't we just watch a few minutes here? 484 00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:32,703 We're getting ready for our deployment, 485 00:20:32,728 --> 00:20:33,726 on the Theodore Roosevelt 486 00:20:33,751 --> 00:20:35,758 over Virginia Beach on the US Oceana. 487 00:20:35,783 --> 00:20:37,656 Lieutenant Ryan Graves described how UFOs 488 00:20:37,813 --> 00:20:39,399 appear to follow his carrier strike group 489 00:20:39,844 --> 00:20:42,719 from the summer of 2014 into 2015. 490 00:20:42,744 --> 00:20:44,767 It wasn't until someone actually saw one go in 491 00:20:44,792 --> 00:20:46,814 between two aircraft, at a close range, 492 00:20:46,857 --> 00:20:48,236 probably within 150 feet, 493 00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:50,083 that it was starting to get worrisome. 494 00:20:51,421 --> 00:20:54,267 Well, I'll tell you the first three words 495 00:20:54,292 --> 00:20:56,901 that spring to mind are bizarre, 496 00:20:57,701 --> 00:20:59,230 incredible, and unacceptable. 497 00:20:59,255 --> 00:21:00,853 If that wasn't interesting enough, 498 00:21:00,878 --> 00:21:03,529 these incidents were encountered near the United States 499 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:06,707 and as they made their way to the Middle East AOR, 500 00:21:07,386 --> 00:21:08,949 they encountered these things again, 501 00:21:08,974 --> 00:21:10,502 almost like they were being stalked. 502 00:21:10,527 --> 00:21:12,200 As a former intelligence person, 503 00:21:12,225 --> 00:21:16,733 I'm a little frustrated that we spend 50 billion 504 00:21:16,758 --> 00:21:20,139 a year to try to avert strategic surprise 505 00:21:20,527 --> 00:21:23,961 and then we have vehicles with extraordinary capabilities 506 00:21:24,453 --> 00:21:27,170 that may be surveilling one of our aircraft carrier 507 00:21:27,195 --> 00:21:29,827 battle groups and nobody's taking action 508 00:21:29,852 --> 00:21:31,922 to find out where these things are coming 509 00:21:31,947 --> 00:21:34,125 from and what they're doing there. 510 00:21:34,837 --> 00:21:36,447 Lieutenant Graves' squadron had filed 511 00:21:36,472 --> 00:21:38,681 a report to the Naval Aviation Safety Office. 512 00:21:40,224 --> 00:21:42,534 But he says nothing was done about what they'd come 513 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:44,128 to see as a serious threat. 514 00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:49,379 There were enumerable radar contacts and sightings, 515 00:21:49,404 --> 00:21:53,349 over an eight-week period, all the way across the Atlantic. 516 00:21:53,509 --> 00:21:57,548 As many as perhaps 60 Naval personnel who had eyes on, 517 00:21:57,573 --> 00:22:00,783 either on radar screens or visually in the air. 518 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:03,502 The evidence is sort of the tip 519 00:22:03,527 --> 00:22:04,847 of the iceberg, if you will. 520 00:22:07,023 --> 00:22:10,225 I think your friends on the Hill may be very surprised 521 00:22:10,289 --> 00:22:12,392 to know that these incidents have continued, 522 00:22:12,913 --> 00:22:14,709 as recently as 2015. 523 00:22:15,419 --> 00:22:16,998 Lue Elizondo, Chris Mellon, 524 00:22:17,023 --> 00:22:19,709 these are guys that are trying to work through the system. 525 00:22:19,976 --> 00:22:22,429 They're not outside the system sort of throwing grenades 526 00:22:22,564 --> 00:22:24,460 in order to get their way. 527 00:22:25,123 --> 00:22:26,873 They're trying to get Congress on board. 528 00:22:27,697 --> 00:22:30,560 They're trying to get more of the Pentagon leadership 529 00:22:30,585 --> 00:22:33,643 to pay attention, but because they are bound 530 00:22:33,668 --> 00:22:35,681 by their oath to protect classified information, 531 00:22:35,706 --> 00:22:36,657 they need to be careful. 532 00:22:36,821 --> 00:22:37,995 Mellon wants to show the video 533 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:39,737 of Lieutenant Graves to his contacts 534 00:22:39,762 --> 00:22:41,535 and powerful Congressional committees 535 00:22:41,862 --> 00:22:43,426 that oversee national security. 536 00:22:44,247 --> 00:22:46,028 He hopes the Lieutenant's dramatic story will 537 00:22:46,053 --> 00:22:47,878 get Congress to acknowledge these incidents 538 00:22:47,903 --> 00:22:49,735 are real and take action. 539 00:22:51,098 --> 00:22:52,762 But Mellon knows he has to be careful. 540 00:22:53,307 --> 00:22:55,799 Talking about UFOs carries the decades long stigma 541 00:22:56,429 --> 00:22:58,612 of flying saucers and alien visitors. 542 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:00,417 The alien angle on this is 543 00:23:00,442 --> 00:23:02,400 the biggest impediment to progress. 544 00:23:02,659 --> 00:23:04,236 I agree. And I wanna steer 545 00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:07,244 as far clear of that as possible in any discussions. 546 00:23:07,269 --> 00:23:11,306 This is an issue of unknown aircraft that 547 00:23:11,331 --> 00:23:15,463 appear to be surveilling the fleet in significant numbers 548 00:23:15,488 --> 00:23:17,002 over prolonged periods of time. 549 00:23:17,517 --> 00:23:21,745 They're being observed by large numbers of pilots. 550 00:23:22,004 --> 00:23:23,071 Um, they're being, 551 00:23:23,165 --> 00:23:26,001 the observations are confirmed by our sensor systems, 552 00:23:26,665 --> 00:23:30,274 and nobody seems to be taking action. 553 00:23:30,749 --> 00:23:34,709 And here we have multiple mysterious aircraft 554 00:23:34,734 --> 00:23:37,193 with absolutely stunning, sort of unprecedented, 555 00:23:37,218 --> 00:23:41,522 capabilities flying in restricted military airspace 556 00:23:41,997 --> 00:23:44,757 in close proximity to carrier battle groups 557 00:23:44,782 --> 00:23:46,610 working up for deployments to the Middle East. 558 00:23:47,228 --> 00:23:49,539 And the Congress isn't being informed. 559 00:23:49,564 --> 00:23:51,016 The upper echelons of the department 560 00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:51,977 are not being informed. 561 00:23:52,337 --> 00:23:54,556 Senior people in the intelligence community 562 00:23:54,581 --> 00:23:56,493 don't seem to be getting the message, 563 00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:57,533 and nobody's responding. 564 00:23:58,059 --> 00:24:00,236 Maybe at the end of the day we'll find a person, 565 00:24:00,323 --> 00:24:03,321 a simple reasonable explanation. 566 00:24:03,345 --> 00:24:06,901 Maybe we'll find out it was some special classified program 567 00:24:06,926 --> 00:24:08,590 and we can pop a bottle of champagne and 568 00:24:08,615 --> 00:24:09,098 Sure. 569 00:24:09,123 --> 00:24:10,402 We can celebrate our breakthrough 570 00:24:10,427 --> 00:24:11,356 and that's great, right? 571 00:24:11,381 --> 00:24:13,803 I have faith that the leadership in this country 572 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:15,576 does want to do something about it. 573 00:24:15,601 --> 00:24:17,405 I think that they do want to know about this. 574 00:24:17,854 --> 00:24:19,908 Um, I think that there are challenges 575 00:24:19,933 --> 00:24:20,838 that we have internally, 576 00:24:20,863 --> 00:24:23,049 probably in part because of stigma, 577 00:24:23,074 --> 00:24:24,980 probably in part because of other things, 578 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,019 that for some reason this information isn't getting 579 00:24:29,336 --> 00:24:32,343 um, trickled up to the right levels for attention. 580 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,945 I'm gonna fold this up and get out of your hair. 581 00:24:35,970 --> 00:24:37,702 Thank you, Lou, great job, great work. 582 00:24:38,466 --> 00:24:40,053 Elizondo hands Mellon a tablet. 583 00:24:40,078 --> 00:24:42,661 with a clip from the interview and he heads 584 00:24:42,686 --> 00:24:44,583 to a closed door meeting on Capital Hill. 585 00:24:47,731 --> 00:24:50,192 Not everybody recalls from their civic lesson 586 00:24:50,217 --> 00:24:53,067 that it's the Congress, not the Executive Branch, 587 00:24:53,537 --> 00:24:56,286 that raises and maintains the military 588 00:24:56,311 --> 00:25:00,404 and is responsible for their organization and funding. 589 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:02,692 And they can't do that effectively if they 590 00:25:02,717 --> 00:25:04,653 don't know what the threats are out there. 591 00:25:08,666 --> 00:25:09,611 Over the decades, 592 00:25:09,645 --> 00:25:11,541 Congress has made sporadic attempts to tackle 593 00:25:11,566 --> 00:25:13,744 the UFO issue, with little result. 594 00:25:14,816 --> 00:25:18,226 In 1966, House Minority Leader, Gerald Ford, 595 00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:21,167 called for hearings after a rash of UFO sightings 596 00:25:21,192 --> 00:25:22,301 in his Michigan district. 597 00:25:23,423 --> 00:25:24,566 Two years later... 598 00:25:24,591 --> 00:25:26,285 Beings that come from the sky that 599 00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:28,054 are worried about us, that are powerful. 600 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,200 Astronomer Carl Sagan told the House Committee 601 00:25:30,225 --> 00:25:33,239 on Science and Aeronautics that investigating UFOs 602 00:25:33,264 --> 00:25:34,435 was a valid pursuit. 603 00:25:35,109 --> 00:25:37,724 Project Blue Book's J. Allen Hynek testified that 604 00:25:37,749 --> 00:25:41,327 he hoped respected scientists would study his UFO reports. 605 00:25:41,695 --> 00:25:44,124 How many really mysterious incidents 606 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:46,527 are there that you'd like to go back and look at again? 607 00:25:47,229 --> 00:25:49,022 As I mentioned in the hearings this morning, 608 00:25:49,312 --> 00:25:50,605 I've picked some 20 which 609 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:53,358 have possible scientific pay dirt in them. 610 00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,686 But Project Blue Book was closed down 611 00:25:56,857 --> 00:25:58,684 a year later and Hynek's dream would have to wait. 612 00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:03,494 50 years later, Elizondo and Mellon 613 00:26:03,627 --> 00:26:05,527 are again pushing Congress to take notice. 614 00:26:06,527 --> 00:26:07,964 What's the word? Oh, good meeting. 615 00:26:08,259 --> 00:26:09,074 Really good meeting. 616 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:10,636 Lawmakers had already heard 617 00:26:10,661 --> 00:26:12,140 from the USS Nimitz pilots 618 00:26:12,501 --> 00:26:14,616 during a closed door meeting earlier in the year. 619 00:26:15,093 --> 00:26:16,555 It's getting a lot more attention now. 620 00:26:16,664 --> 00:26:19,438 We, as a military, we, as an institution, 621 00:26:19,463 --> 00:26:23,455 we, as American people, we should take this seriously. 622 00:26:23,683 --> 00:26:26,651 They recognized that the Nimitz incident was 623 00:26:26,676 --> 00:26:27,681 not an isolated incident? 624 00:26:27,706 --> 00:26:29,229 Yeah, absolutely. That there's a trend. 625 00:26:29,274 --> 00:26:30,604 Absolutely. Excellent, excellent. 626 00:26:30,629 --> 00:26:31,643 And they'd like to hear, 627 00:26:31,668 --> 00:26:33,339 as more people come forward and approach us, 628 00:26:33,364 --> 00:26:35,403 they're interested in what they have to say, also. 629 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,474 Now, Mellon's Washington contacts 630 00:26:37,499 --> 00:26:39,254 have told him they want to meet directly 631 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,511 with Lieutenant Graves and any other pilot 632 00:26:41,536 --> 00:26:43,379 in his squadron who's willing to speak up. 633 00:26:46,792 --> 00:26:49,862 Carl Sagan once famously said, about UFOs, 634 00:26:49,887 --> 00:26:52,393 extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 635 00:26:53,016 --> 00:26:54,628 He was absolutely right. 636 00:26:55,459 --> 00:26:57,191 But now we have the proof. 637 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,443 The question now is will people look at the evidence 638 00:27:00,468 --> 00:27:02,216 and are they able to process it? 639 00:27:08,447 --> 00:27:10,400 Lieutenant Ryan Graves has just described, 640 00:27:10,425 --> 00:27:13,142 for the first time, a terrifying series of encounters 641 00:27:13,167 --> 00:27:16,408 over the Atlantic between UFOs and the US Navy. 642 00:27:18,991 --> 00:27:22,248 He says a fleet of UFOs stalked his squadron for months off 643 00:27:22,273 --> 00:27:25,443 the East coast and even followed them to the Middle East. 644 00:27:25,981 --> 00:27:27,546 What the fuck is that? 645 00:27:27,873 --> 00:27:29,390 Oh my gosh, dude. 646 00:27:29,415 --> 00:27:30,875 Seriously, look at that thing. 647 00:27:31,806 --> 00:27:32,736 It's rotating. 648 00:27:33,446 --> 00:27:35,516 From my experience on the East coast, 649 00:27:35,901 --> 00:27:38,711 tens, if not 100 people 650 00:27:39,308 --> 00:27:41,032 have had this issue. 651 00:27:41,754 --> 00:27:44,144 Really the issue is that there's no real means 652 00:27:44,169 --> 00:27:46,823 of communication to kind of express that information. 653 00:27:46,848 --> 00:27:50,027 So, what'll happen is you'll see something interesting 654 00:27:50,367 --> 00:27:52,676 and you'll show your buddies, including your skipper, 655 00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:55,086 and that's really where the conversation ends. 656 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,003 Graves says his fellow pilots 657 00:27:57,163 --> 00:27:59,194 saw at least three different shapes of UFOs. 658 00:28:00,285 --> 00:28:02,452 Now, a second eye witness is coming forward. 659 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,569 Hey buddy. Hey, what's up man? 660 00:28:09,432 --> 00:28:10,296 How you doing? Good. 661 00:28:10,647 --> 00:28:12,062 How are you? Doing well. 662 00:28:15,478 --> 00:28:17,908 I'm the very, keep things close to the chest kind of guy. 663 00:28:18,376 --> 00:28:20,448 I trust him, we've flown together. 664 00:28:20,930 --> 00:28:23,164 We deployed together and so, 665 00:28:23,261 --> 00:28:25,352 when Lieutenant Graves was saying he's 666 00:28:25,377 --> 00:28:27,337 got some people interested in talking to us, 667 00:28:27,362 --> 00:28:29,909 I was willing to help him out. 668 00:28:30,539 --> 00:28:31,799 Many of the pilots have hundreds 669 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,846 if not several thousands of flying hours. 670 00:28:35,095 --> 00:28:37,024 It's not in their interest to make this stuff up, 671 00:28:37,534 --> 00:28:40,868 because, professionally, it could be very damaging to them. 672 00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:44,323 In 2015, Lieutenant Graves 673 00:28:44,394 --> 00:28:47,021 and Lieutenant Danny Aucoin were training 674 00:28:47,021 --> 00:28:48,349 to deploy to the Middle East. 675 00:28:51,614 --> 00:28:53,732 What was the first thing you thought when you saw 676 00:28:54,237 --> 00:28:55,927 that there is actually something there? 677 00:28:56,183 --> 00:28:58,150 The first time you see it on the radar 678 00:28:58,385 --> 00:28:59,619 could possibly be a false track, 679 00:28:59,737 --> 00:29:02,533 but then when you start to get multiple sensors reading 680 00:29:02,598 --> 00:29:05,190 the exact same thing, and then you get to see a display, 681 00:29:05,597 --> 00:29:07,091 that solidifies it for me. 682 00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:09,276 Again and again, 683 00:29:09,598 --> 00:29:11,664 the pilots were capturing bizarre shaped objects 684 00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:13,250 on their F18's cameras. 685 00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:18,512 Two of the videos would be released to the public. 686 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:21,351 One would come to be known as Go Fast, 687 00:29:21,727 --> 00:29:23,031 the other was called Gimbal. 688 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:27,686 Really no distinct wings, no distinct tail, 689 00:29:28,117 --> 00:29:30,702 no distinct exhaust plume, 690 00:29:30,727 --> 00:29:32,922 much like you see in the Gimbal video. 691 00:29:33,515 --> 00:29:35,406 It seemed like they were aware of our presence, 692 00:29:35,431 --> 00:29:38,289 'cause they would actively move around us. 693 00:29:39,121 --> 00:29:40,652 Lieutenant Graves was in the air 694 00:29:40,677 --> 00:29:42,675 the day the Gimbal video was recorded. 695 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:47,113 We came back, we landed and we got back to the ready room, 696 00:29:47,138 --> 00:29:49,007 we we're getting our gear off and you're like, 697 00:29:49,032 --> 00:29:51,465 dude, you gotta check this video out it's sick. 698 00:29:51,639 --> 00:29:52,953 They're all going against the wind. 699 00:29:52,978 --> 00:29:55,492 The wind is 120 knots to the west. 700 00:29:56,055 --> 00:29:57,157 Look at that thing. 701 00:29:57,293 --> 00:29:59,303 His flight path doesn't look like it moves at all. 702 00:29:59,328 --> 00:30:00,677 Yeah, its flight path doesn't change, 703 00:30:00,702 --> 00:30:01,897 his altitude is not changing. 704 00:30:02,152 --> 00:30:04,544 So it's basically just rotating in some fashion. 705 00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:05,972 Yeah. That's my perspective. 706 00:30:06,109 --> 00:30:07,284 Yeah, I'd say the same thing. 707 00:30:07,309 --> 00:30:09,753 That's definitely not a maneuver I've pulled before. 708 00:30:11,082 --> 00:30:12,402 According to the pilots, 709 00:30:12,541 --> 00:30:15,011 the Go Fast video was captured several weeks later 710 00:30:15,451 --> 00:30:17,161 off Florida's East coast. 711 00:30:17,354 --> 00:30:20,385 What the fuck is that thing? 712 00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:22,197 Did you box moving target? 713 00:30:22,222 --> 00:30:22,878 What is that man? 714 00:30:22,918 --> 00:30:24,149 Look at that flying! 715 00:30:24,174 --> 00:30:26,528 So, do you think that's the same air crew as the first one? 716 00:30:27,436 --> 00:30:29,787 Both videos appear to feature the same voices. 717 00:30:33,865 --> 00:30:34,873 That's led to questions 718 00:30:34,898 --> 00:30:35,913 whether they were faked. 719 00:30:36,716 --> 00:30:38,309 On the one hand you could say, 720 00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:41,209 it makes it more credible because you're hearing, 721 00:30:41,234 --> 00:30:45,858 in the moment, how surprised these military pilots are. 722 00:30:46,133 --> 00:30:48,343 At the same time, it probably increases the chances 723 00:30:48,368 --> 00:30:49,946 that somebody could've spliced in the audio 724 00:30:50,251 --> 00:30:51,734 to make it sound more credible. 725 00:30:52,694 --> 00:30:53,998 That is the same air crew, 726 00:30:54,023 --> 00:30:55,670 because I recognize my buddy's voices. 727 00:30:55,835 --> 00:30:58,795 Yeah, yes, I think a lot of people will. 728 00:30:59,546 --> 00:31:02,022 I definitely recognize the voices of both, 729 00:31:02,139 --> 00:31:04,866 the WSO on both of them and then the pilot and I 730 00:31:05,062 --> 00:31:06,961 were really good friends inside and outside of work. 731 00:31:06,986 --> 00:31:09,102 Our families spent a lot of time together. 732 00:31:09,127 --> 00:31:10,767 Whoa! Got it! 733 00:31:11,939 --> 00:31:12,814 Woohoo! 734 00:31:12,919 --> 00:31:14,090 I don't know what this thing is. 735 00:31:14,115 --> 00:31:16,944 I don't know, this one's weird to me. I don't really know how to describe it. 736 00:31:16,969 --> 00:31:19,437 Could it have been a drone; I think yes, it could've been. 737 00:31:19,658 --> 00:31:21,554 Whatever it was was small, 738 00:31:22,063 --> 00:31:24,320 which is why it was difficult to pick up visually. 739 00:31:24,724 --> 00:31:25,726 Despite their seemingly 740 00:31:25,751 --> 00:31:28,546 incredible capabilities, neither pilot can disregard 741 00:31:28,571 --> 00:31:31,242 the possibility that whatever was captured on both videos 742 00:31:31,705 --> 00:31:34,205 was either a technology controlled by the US military 743 00:31:34,705 --> 00:31:36,127 or one of America's enemies. 744 00:31:37,283 --> 00:31:39,009 Is there anything you know of 745 00:31:39,034 --> 00:31:41,361 that could make turns like that? 746 00:31:42,508 --> 00:31:46,596 Um, I don't know, I don't know how deep I wanna 747 00:31:46,621 --> 00:31:48,410 go down that, that path right now. 748 00:31:50,681 --> 00:31:52,837 In 2015, the commander of 749 00:31:52,862 --> 00:31:55,649 the Roosevelt Strike Group was Rear Admiral Andrew L. Lewis. 750 00:31:57,147 --> 00:31:58,842 Lieutenant Graves was there when the admiral 751 00:31:58,868 --> 00:32:01,132 came below deck to watch one of the videos. 752 00:32:01,814 --> 00:32:03,236 So, I stayed in the room, in the civic 753 00:32:03,261 --> 00:32:04,786 'cause I heard the admiral's coming down-- 754 00:32:04,811 --> 00:32:05,820 Yeah. To check the video out. 755 00:32:05,845 --> 00:32:07,373 We'd been dealing with this for awhile. 756 00:32:07,398 --> 00:32:08,851 Let's see what he says about this tape. 757 00:32:08,876 --> 00:32:11,296 And he walked in the room and I see him just 758 00:32:11,557 --> 00:32:13,665 look at the video for like five seconds, 759 00:32:14,071 --> 00:32:15,627 just go, huh, and walk out and that was it. 760 00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:18,892 What the hell is that thing? 761 00:32:19,312 --> 00:32:21,040 Could the mysterious craft have been part 762 00:32:21,065 --> 00:32:23,604 of a secret test program or were they sent 763 00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:26,385 by a foreign adversary, a so-called red threat? 764 00:32:27,636 --> 00:32:30,401 If it's a red threat, that would be enormous. 765 00:32:30,705 --> 00:32:33,925 If it was someone operating drones out there, 766 00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:35,869 that would be enormous, too, someday will be mid-air 767 00:32:35,894 --> 00:32:36,939 and you lose an aircraft. 768 00:32:36,964 --> 00:32:38,486 If it's something totally outside of that, 769 00:32:38,511 --> 00:32:40,534 then obviously the implications 770 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:41,878 for that are enormous as well. 771 00:32:42,816 --> 00:32:45,110 Nobody wants to go to the Admiral and say, 772 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,339 "Sir, we're screwed." 773 00:32:47,565 --> 00:32:50,183 This is this aircraft that just got under the wire 774 00:32:50,348 --> 00:32:51,806 and we didn't even know it were there. 775 00:32:51,911 --> 00:32:53,752 And they've been there before. 776 00:32:54,256 --> 00:32:54,934 My gosh! 777 00:32:55,622 --> 00:32:57,059 There is definitely this fear 778 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,920 that either an adversary 779 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,452 or someone else has developed a technology 780 00:33:03,477 --> 00:33:07,258 and every defense system we have developed over decades 781 00:33:07,744 --> 00:33:10,603 to protect our forces is irrelevant 782 00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:12,748 and that's a scary thought if you're in the military. 783 00:33:13,986 --> 00:33:16,982 We're just trying to figure out exactly what we saw. 784 00:33:17,313 --> 00:33:19,106 If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, 785 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:21,407 I don't know if I would've believed it either. 786 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,747 The department of defense did not respond to repeated requests 787 00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:29,141 for comment on the claims made by Ryan Graves and Danny Aucoin. 788 00:33:29,866 --> 00:33:31,866 Coming up on Unidentified: 789 00:33:32,453 --> 00:33:34,343 What happens when it's behaving in a way 790 00:33:34,464 --> 00:33:37,758 that these guys and pilots are saying, I have no clue. 791 00:33:38,132 --> 00:33:39,891 Well that's when you start seeing the expletives 792 00:33:39,916 --> 00:33:40,743 come over the radio. 793 00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:48,847 Hey, what's up? Hey Steve. 794 00:33:48,907 --> 00:33:50,510 Listen, I was going through my notes. 795 00:33:50,535 --> 00:33:53,590 Um, I was wondering if maybe I could share a few thoughts 796 00:33:53,615 --> 00:33:55,370 with you, to get your opinion on a few things. 797 00:33:55,395 --> 00:33:56,315 Yeah, yeah, no problem. 798 00:33:56,340 --> 00:33:57,465 Lou Elizondo's investigation 799 00:33:57,490 --> 00:33:58,763 has raised a critical question. 800 00:33:59,592 --> 00:34:02,720 Why were the UFOs captured in all three F18 videos 801 00:34:03,246 --> 00:34:05,425 seen near US Navy Carrier Strike Groups, 802 00:34:05,957 --> 00:34:07,875 even following one of them into a war zone. 803 00:34:11,016 --> 00:34:13,430 How do you know that a foreign adversary 804 00:34:13,455 --> 00:34:16,919 hasn't leap frogged us in technology by a generation? 805 00:34:16,944 --> 00:34:18,295 How do you know we're not just seeing 806 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,952 the new jet of the future? 807 00:34:20,417 --> 00:34:21,979 If anyone might know the answer, 808 00:34:22,004 --> 00:34:23,041 it's Steve Justice. 809 00:34:23,351 --> 00:34:25,668 In his three decades at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works, 810 00:34:25,913 --> 00:34:27,621 he helped design some of America's 811 00:34:27,646 --> 00:34:29,066 most advanced attack aircraft. 812 00:34:30,301 --> 00:34:32,720 Why would it be near carrier battle group? 813 00:34:33,384 --> 00:34:35,386 So what was the carrier doing at the time? 814 00:34:35,953 --> 00:34:37,438 Workups? Yup, it was doing workups. 815 00:34:37,463 --> 00:34:39,087 Getting ready for deployment. 816 00:34:40,188 --> 00:34:42,244 Okay, and so would that be something 817 00:34:42,244 --> 00:34:43,736 an adversary would wanna see? 818 00:34:43,761 --> 00:34:45,228 Damn well we wanna know, yeah. 819 00:34:45,339 --> 00:34:46,683 I wanna know anything and everything... 820 00:34:46,708 --> 00:34:48,486 Right. That our foreign adversaries are doing 821 00:34:48,511 --> 00:34:50,471 and a workup is a perfect place to do it. 822 00:34:50,496 --> 00:34:52,574 Right, because coms and everything are being used. 823 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,293 Well, and you're gonna see that thing working 824 00:34:54,318 --> 00:34:56,707 as it's working in the field and that's what I wanna know. 825 00:34:56,874 --> 00:34:58,099 Right. But what happens 826 00:34:58,124 --> 00:35:00,077 when you don't have the pilots recognizing what it is 827 00:35:00,102 --> 00:35:02,980 and it's behaving in a way that these guys 828 00:35:03,005 --> 00:35:05,297 and pilots are saying, I have no clue. 829 00:35:05,455 --> 00:35:07,106 That's when you start seeing the expletives 830 00:35:07,146 --> 00:35:08,075 come over the radio. 831 00:35:09,232 --> 00:35:09,888 That's fair. 832 00:35:10,138 --> 00:35:10,826 Expletives. 833 00:35:11,458 --> 00:35:13,145 What a hell is that thing? 834 00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:14,115 What is that man? 835 00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:15,396 Did you box moving target? 836 00:35:15,587 --> 00:35:17,464 A foreign adversary can't just send in 837 00:35:17,715 --> 00:35:19,876 a typical reconnaissance aircraft 838 00:35:19,901 --> 00:35:21,484 'cause we won't let 'em into our area. 839 00:35:21,509 --> 00:35:23,422 They would have to send in something that's super, 840 00:35:23,447 --> 00:35:24,289 super low observable, 841 00:35:24,621 --> 00:35:26,344 something that is super sophisticated 842 00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:27,672 and fast that can get in, 843 00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:29,224 look at what it is we're doing, 844 00:35:29,543 --> 00:35:30,816 and then get back out, right? 845 00:35:31,111 --> 00:35:33,122 I mean, we want that capability, 846 00:35:33,147 --> 00:35:34,598 so why wouldn't a foreign adversary? 847 00:35:34,623 --> 00:35:37,075 Yeah. That's why I continue 848 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,928 to doggedly pursue these what-if scenarios. 849 00:35:40,363 --> 00:35:43,139 My greatest fear is that an adversary did figure it out 850 00:35:43,881 --> 00:35:47,285 and we are just way, way, way, way, way behind. 851 00:35:48,976 --> 00:35:49,646 In their work 852 00:35:49,671 --> 00:35:51,340 inside highly classified programs, 853 00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:54,304 both Elizondo and Justice had access 854 00:35:54,329 --> 00:35:56,575 to much more information than they're able to reveal. 855 00:35:57,231 --> 00:35:58,848 I think we owe it to ourselves, 856 00:35:58,873 --> 00:36:00,715 I think we owe it to everybody that 857 00:36:00,740 --> 00:36:03,068 is relying on us to collect the information 858 00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:04,747 and be fair and objective, right? 859 00:36:05,191 --> 00:36:07,866 I'm really, desperately trying to do that. 860 00:36:09,236 --> 00:36:11,308 But at the same time, I feel a little bit disingenuous 861 00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:15,388 because, sometimes, I might have inside knowledge. 862 00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:16,770 There's a lot of stuff that you have 863 00:36:16,795 --> 00:36:18,838 to leave partitioned off, okay. 864 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:22,138 But I would say there's just too many pieces 865 00:36:22,163 --> 00:36:25,193 of the puzzle that don't make sense 866 00:36:25,591 --> 00:36:27,882 and it represents a set of capabilities 867 00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:31,543 that seem new to everybody in the community. 868 00:36:32,481 --> 00:36:34,981 If these aircraft had Russian or Chinese markings 869 00:36:35,006 --> 00:36:36,918 on them and they were zipping on and out 870 00:36:36,943 --> 00:36:38,528 of an aircraft carrier battle group, 871 00:36:38,798 --> 00:36:42,068 there would be a budget the size of this building 872 00:36:42,396 --> 00:36:44,474 designed to get to the bottom of how do they develop 873 00:36:44,499 --> 00:36:46,630 that and how do we replicate it and how do we defeat it? 874 00:36:46,725 --> 00:36:49,100 But none of that is happening here, as far as we can tell. 875 00:36:49,917 --> 00:36:51,061 If these craft were sent 876 00:36:51,086 --> 00:36:53,734 by a foreign adversary, Elizondo says that threat 877 00:36:54,108 --> 00:36:55,953 would need to be reported to law makers. 878 00:36:56,294 --> 00:36:58,273 If anybody had this leap frog technology, 879 00:36:58,421 --> 00:36:59,551 this would be a national 880 00:36:59,576 --> 00:37:01,286 intelligence collection priority, 881 00:37:01,311 --> 00:37:02,919 period; all hands on deck. 882 00:37:03,092 --> 00:37:04,286 Congress would be engaged. 883 00:37:04,361 --> 00:37:05,576 But we know that's not the case. 884 00:37:05,646 --> 00:37:07,525 We know that as a fact because we're talking 885 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:09,064 to the highest levels of Congress; 886 00:37:09,226 --> 00:37:10,640 we're feeding them information. 887 00:37:11,204 --> 00:37:12,952 We know Congress is just as surprised 888 00:37:12,977 --> 00:37:14,179 by this as Joe Q. Public. 889 00:37:14,204 --> 00:37:14,632 Yeah. 890 00:37:15,173 --> 00:37:18,086 So, that, for me, that's a deal... 891 00:37:18,111 --> 00:37:20,782 And that's why I'm saying, if it is a foreign capability 892 00:37:20,807 --> 00:37:22,032 going on and this hasn't occurred, 893 00:37:22,106 --> 00:37:23,173 dude, heads are gonna roll. 894 00:37:24,092 --> 00:37:24,970 That's illegal. 895 00:37:25,105 --> 00:37:26,111 There's laws against that. 896 00:37:26,136 --> 00:37:27,479 You have to inform Congress. 897 00:37:29,758 --> 00:37:31,136 Something allegedly has been stalking 898 00:37:31,161 --> 00:37:33,538 America's nuclear powered carrier strike groups. 899 00:37:33,902 --> 00:37:35,856 But neither Lue Elizondo or Steve Justice 900 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,653 believe it's an enemy we know. 901 00:37:38,269 --> 00:37:39,839 Wanna be careful we're not belligerent, 902 00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:41,521 you know, saying oh the Russian, the Chinese, 903 00:37:41,546 --> 00:37:43,552 that they're the big, bad enemy because when it comes 904 00:37:43,577 --> 00:37:46,060 to this phenomena, they're really not. 905 00:37:47,188 --> 00:37:48,539 They're in the same boat we're in. 906 00:37:53,894 --> 00:37:55,738 Hi man, unfortunately, I'm no longer interested 907 00:37:55,763 --> 00:37:58,621 in communicating about the matter we discussed earlier. 908 00:37:59,585 --> 00:38:01,069 I hope you can understand this. 909 00:38:01,472 --> 00:38:02,601 Good luck with everything. 910 00:38:03,346 --> 00:38:04,322 He's spooked. 911 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,830 This is the second guy in a week now that was part 912 00:38:08,486 --> 00:38:11,228 of that effort on the Roosevelt in 2015 that we've lost. 913 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:15,431 Lue Elizondo convinced Navy pilot 914 00:38:15,464 --> 00:38:17,564 Lieutenant Ryan Graves to go public 915 00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:19,651 about his squadron's extraordinary encounters 916 00:38:19,676 --> 00:38:20,792 with UFOs. 917 00:38:22,245 --> 00:38:24,511 I've had conversations with friends from other squadrons 918 00:38:24,536 --> 00:38:26,551 that just, hey, there's stuff out there, 919 00:38:27,016 --> 00:38:29,121 I hope we don't hit it now because they're out 920 00:38:29,146 --> 00:38:30,903 there enough now where someone could potentially 921 00:38:30,928 --> 00:38:32,559 have a mid-air; something needs to be done. 922 00:38:33,403 --> 00:38:34,880 But after months of trying to persuade 923 00:38:34,905 --> 00:38:37,012 other pilots from the USS Theodore Roosevelt 924 00:38:37,037 --> 00:38:39,581 to speak out, Elizondo's hit a wall. 925 00:38:43,111 --> 00:38:45,712 The jets weapons systems officer allegedly heard 926 00:38:45,737 --> 00:38:47,001 throughout the Roosevelt videos... 927 00:38:47,041 --> 00:38:49,072 There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the ASA. 928 00:38:49,593 --> 00:38:50,900 Has backed out of an interview. 929 00:38:51,601 --> 00:38:53,884 The person's voice you hear in that video, 930 00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:57,936 that is the guy that we were in contact with. 931 00:38:58,707 --> 00:39:02,252 This had the potential to really help shed light 932 00:39:02,277 --> 00:39:04,074 to get a better handle of what's going on. 933 00:39:04,831 --> 00:39:06,510 Kinda sucks, actually. 934 00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:10,932 While there are allegedly more 935 00:39:10,957 --> 00:39:13,158 than 50 Nave personnel who witnessed these UFOs, 936 00:39:14,286 --> 00:39:16,200 nearly all of them are afraid to come forward. 937 00:39:21,426 --> 00:39:22,324 So how you been, man? 938 00:39:22,349 --> 00:39:22,761 Good. 939 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,636 So, ah, how you feeling about this? 940 00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:26,883 I'm feeling pretty good. 941 00:39:27,508 --> 00:39:28,686 But Lieutenant Ryan Graves 942 00:39:28,711 --> 00:39:30,461 has been summoned to the nation's capital 943 00:39:30,703 --> 00:39:32,811 for a closed door meeting with members of Congress 944 00:39:33,102 --> 00:39:34,601 responsible for national security. 945 00:39:35,827 --> 00:39:38,016 They want to hear what happened when a fleet of UFOs 946 00:39:38,325 --> 00:39:40,262 appeared to stalk his carrier strike group. 947 00:39:42,412 --> 00:39:44,341 I'm not here to speculate or guess what it is. 948 00:39:44,366 --> 00:39:47,389 I can just simply provide as many facts as I can about this. 949 00:39:48,218 --> 00:39:50,952 The fact that Lieutenant Graves is willing 950 00:39:51,329 --> 00:39:53,764 to put his career at risk and speak out publicly 951 00:39:53,789 --> 00:39:56,062 about this while he's still active duty military 952 00:39:56,319 --> 00:39:59,491 really speaks volumes about the frustration 953 00:39:59,516 --> 00:40:00,961 in trying to work through the system. 954 00:40:01,282 --> 00:40:04,610 One can only hope that his courage will be rewarded 955 00:40:05,143 --> 00:40:07,071 and that people will pay attention. 956 00:40:07,803 --> 00:40:09,305 What would you like to walk away with 957 00:40:09,330 --> 00:40:11,322 at the end of this meeting you're about to have today? 958 00:40:11,732 --> 00:40:12,642 There's two issues here. 959 00:40:12,667 --> 00:40:15,947 One, people aren't paying attention, 960 00:40:16,235 --> 00:40:19,113 and two, there's a credibility problem 961 00:40:19,367 --> 00:40:21,102 and a stigma related to this. 962 00:40:21,134 --> 00:40:24,274 By observing hard facts and data 963 00:40:24,453 --> 00:40:27,413 from professionals and from our sensor systems, 964 00:40:28,499 --> 00:40:30,453 we can bring this to light in such a way that, 965 00:40:30,478 --> 00:40:31,828 that you can't just refute by saying, 966 00:40:31,853 --> 00:40:32,704 I don't believe you. 967 00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:35,440 Man, I hope you get a chance to tell them that. 968 00:40:38,057 --> 00:40:39,361 Like Lieutenant Graves, 969 00:40:39,794 --> 00:40:42,171 Lue Elizondo made his own decision to speak out 970 00:40:42,335 --> 00:40:45,864 when he quit the Pentagon secret UFO Unit in 2017. 971 00:40:46,984 --> 00:40:49,859 I think what Lue Elizondo and others have done 972 00:40:50,243 --> 00:40:52,624 is kind of break that mold a little bit 973 00:40:52,649 --> 00:40:54,656 where it's okay to talk about this stuff. 974 00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:56,670 I've asked members of Congress about it 975 00:40:56,695 --> 00:40:58,640 and they will tell me, yeah, you know, 976 00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:00,063 there may be something to this. 977 00:41:01,302 --> 00:41:04,001 There's also a new generation of members of Congress. 978 00:41:04,026 --> 00:41:06,325 They're younger, they're more open-minded. 979 00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:08,674 They're not afraid to ask tough questions. 980 00:41:09,388 --> 00:41:13,400 I think we're now seeing a generation of elected leaders 981 00:41:13,425 --> 00:41:15,349 but also national security officials who 982 00:41:15,374 --> 00:41:17,230 are more willing to talk about this issue 983 00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:19,690 and don't see it as much as a third rail. 984 00:41:20,131 --> 00:41:21,170 I think ultimately, 985 00:41:21,195 --> 00:41:22,592 it's a discussion the American people 986 00:41:22,617 --> 00:41:23,796 have to have with themselves, 987 00:41:24,047 --> 00:41:25,686 and then tell your political leaders 988 00:41:25,711 --> 00:41:27,296 what you expect and what you want done. 989 00:41:33,313 --> 00:41:34,621 Lieutenant Graves secret meeting 990 00:41:34,646 --> 00:41:35,814 lasted 90 minutes. 991 00:41:36,205 --> 00:41:38,493 It was off any public schedule and unknown 992 00:41:38,527 --> 00:41:39,580 to members of the press. 993 00:41:40,033 --> 00:41:40,549 How'd it go? 994 00:41:40,574 --> 00:41:42,399 It seemed like they recognized there is an issue. 995 00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:45,368 And they generally want to figure out what it is. 996 00:41:45,614 --> 00:41:46,982 His account was heard by members 997 00:41:47,007 --> 00:41:48,303 of the Congressional committees 998 00:41:48,328 --> 00:41:49,819 that oversee national security, 999 00:41:50,987 --> 00:41:52,913 as well as a team from the Defense Department. 1000 00:41:56,449 --> 00:41:58,418 At what point was it that people just stopped 1001 00:41:58,443 --> 00:42:00,503 being interested in unexplained things? 1002 00:42:01,537 --> 00:42:03,746 I mean, that's kind of what drives us, right? 1003 00:42:03,771 --> 00:42:06,240 We get out there and we're learning new things, 1004 00:42:06,265 --> 00:42:07,458 at least, that's what drives me. 1005 00:42:07,934 --> 00:42:09,434 We're trying to explore the unknown. 1006 00:42:10,799 --> 00:42:13,870 To see something every day and just kind 1007 00:42:13,895 --> 00:42:15,872 of brush it aside and not wanna raise the question 1008 00:42:15,897 --> 00:42:17,857 about hey, this is curious. 1009 00:42:17,857 --> 00:42:19,685 Maybe we should figure something out about this. 1010 00:42:20,252 --> 00:42:22,786 It's extremely frustrating that, potentially, 1011 00:42:22,811 --> 00:42:26,646 whether this is some type of threat, you know, globally here, 1012 00:42:26,723 --> 00:42:30,606 if we have some type of red air threat that's out there, 1013 00:42:30,631 --> 00:42:32,660 gathering our wave forms and our tactics 1014 00:42:32,794 --> 00:42:36,865 or something else, if we're not curious, then what are we? 1015 00:42:39,444 --> 00:42:40,988 On the next Unidentified: 1016 00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:43,162 didn't really wanna talk about it, 1017 00:42:43,984 --> 00:42:46,530 but I guess the cat's out of the bag. 1018 00:42:46,555 --> 00:42:49,060 Whatever these UFOs were, wherever they're from, 1019 00:42:49,085 --> 00:42:52,132 they had an intense interest in anything nuclear. 1020 00:42:52,563 --> 00:42:55,274 Tell me what you experienced back in 1980. 1021 00:42:55,666 --> 00:42:57,564 The on-duty police lieutenant came in, 1022 00:42:57,589 --> 00:43:00,126 white as a sheet, and he said, we saw lights in the forest. 1023 00:43:00,151 --> 00:43:01,314 There was something out there. 1024 00:43:02,037 --> 00:43:03,463 I don't know exactly what it is, 1025 00:43:03,488 --> 00:43:05,143 but there's a beam coming down to the grass. 1026 00:43:05,197 --> 00:43:07,276 I'm thinking, is this some kind of communication? 1027 00:43:07,562 --> 00:43:09,656 I couldn't believe what was happening. 1028 00:43:09,789 --> 00:43:12,134 They didn't want the world to know, 1029 00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:13,597 which is kind of scary, 1030 00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:16,740 because you don't know what els they're covering up.