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Transcript by sub.Trader and Clarity

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<i>As I was doing
what I was trained to do</i>

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<i>…you realize
how weak and fragile you are.</i>

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<i>This was his first day
going to that office.</i>

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<i>-We had his picture brought to us--
-And he was so happy.</i>

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<i>Pulmonary fibrosis.</i>

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I just prayed, you know.</i>

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<i>I don't know if we were just in denial…</i>

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<i>but we really thought it's…</i>

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<i>…And I have to come to terms with it.</i>

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<i>The rest of them?</i>

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<i>I lost a son.</i>

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<i>All gone.</i>

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I'll say this:

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I'm angry.

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I'm angry with God.

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I'm angry with our country also
because they let this happen.

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My beautiful boy

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was burnt alive because of them.

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You know, we don't even have a body.

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and blew them up…

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They didn't even have a fingernail.

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How do you go on from there?

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How do you calculate that?

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What is

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life

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worth?

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Not a trick question, people.

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Back row…

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You there, Mr… Barron.

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Big boy voice and a counselor,
tell us, where are you from?

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I was raised in Wichita.

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Kansas, farm boy. Good.

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You were raised on one, a farm?

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My girlfriend's father owned one.
He grew sorghum.

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Girlfriend's father grew sorghum.

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Miss Politano.

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Miss Politano, you are now
Mr. Barron's girlfriend's father.

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Don't laugh people. It's very sad.

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Mr. Barron just died tragically.
Crushed by a combine harvester

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in Miss Politano's sorghum field.

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<font color="
you are now representing Mr. Barron.

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And where is Miss Chan?

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Miss Chan, you're representing
Amalgamated Caterpillar.

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Manufacturer of said
combine harvester

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which took
poor young Mr. Barron's life,

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in the Kansas State
civil action of

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"Mr. Barron v. Mr. Barron's
girlfriend's father's sorghum farm</font>

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and the Caterpillar company."

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So, Miss. Chan, how much do you offer
Mr. Dickerson to settle this?

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All right.

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Let me rephrase.

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How much is Mr. Barron's life worth?

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Give us a number.

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Two million?

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I could be earning that before I'm 30.

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If you ace the final, maybe.
And if aren't dead,

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which you are.

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This is now Mr. Dickerson's decision
along with

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-Mr… your name?
-Patel.

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Patel. Mr. Patel
is a poor bereaved mother of Mr. Barron.

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Two point seven.

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Deal.

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There you have it. There's the deal.

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To be clear, you haven't stumbled
into a philosophy course

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where as the law is concerned
this question actually has an answer.

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And the answer is a number.

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And that's the job.

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And both sides agreed to walk.
That's right.

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No one thinks it's fair,
but fair is not the goal here.

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It's "finish and move on."

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Yeah, well, thank you, sir…

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Mr. Feinberg,
you have a message from judge Colton.

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Thank you.

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about the vacancy on the Supreme Court.

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I saw Rehnquist the other day,
he's looking pale.

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I said he's looking pale.

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Hello?

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I think I lost him.

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-Probably a good thing.
-It was a joke.

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When you shoot the funny ones
you don't have to announce that afterwards.</font>

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I just saved the taxpayers
years in the courtroom.

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Do you think he really hung up on me?

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I'm sure he's off commissioning a monument.

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I have a fond to run.

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Mr. Darryl Barnes Esq.
I have an important question for you.

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Whose this birthday cake?

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-Is that the important question?
-No.

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Did she save any for you?

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Gloria, where are we on that email?

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"And so I would ask…"

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And so I would insist. Not ask.

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<i>Insist</i> that you be on time.

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I have a very busy schedule that day.

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Please, promptly advise.

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Love, Dad?

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Yeah. Love, Dad.

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OK, I'll type this up right now.

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Thank you.

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Remind me again why are we building this
instead of buying that cute

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little place on Cape Charles?

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-You could still commute.

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The numbers show Cape Charles

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is more than twice as likely
to be fogged in on any given day.

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-That's not a real statistic.
-Two point two is the statistic.

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If you are really tight into that.

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I have heard that people that base
their future happiness on weather data

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Why is he sitting there
and just looks at me?

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Do you mind?

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You're not retiring anyway.

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Good night, honey.

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NEW YORK CITY

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{\an8} Greenwich Village Society
for Historic Preservation

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Because they want
to put in another shoe store.</font>

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Cause we need another one of those.

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And they wanna take out
those beautiful arched windows.

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You know, the one that have
the Corinthian-carved cartouche things?

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They wanna take them out
and put in the modern one

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so they can hawk more sneakers.
It's just…

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Not on your watch.

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There's chicken piccata in the fridge.

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I'm going to post this. Just wait.

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Power to the people.

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Yep.

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…Cause you can actually take it…

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Hi there.

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All right, come in, please.
Breakfast is ready.

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-Quickly.
-Yeah, breakfast!</font>

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-Thank you.
-Slow down.

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This way.

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Gotta go. Love you.

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All right.

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Mom!

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Right now I don't see it.

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Sure.

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<i>The shock from the attacks
in New York and DC</i>

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<i>reverberate across the entire nation.</i>

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has been informed that state officials</i>

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<i>-are working to strengthen security--
-Officials at Somerset County Airport</i>

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<i>confirmed the crash
of a large plane north of that airport.</i>

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<i>The army has been placed at REDCON Delta.</i>

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<i>Firefighters and police officers</i>

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those people who have been hurt</i>

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<i>-who perhaps have not been rescued.
-For a tragedy so great,</i>

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<i>tonight a city comes together</i>

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<i>searching for safety and comfort.</i>

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<i>Some of the hundreds</i>

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<i>are waiting for their turn
to go in to the World Trade Center area.</i></font>

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<i>The day is to come to rescue those
who may be alive.</i>

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<i>So we have at this point</i>

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<i>well over a thousand people confirmed dead</i>

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<i>The three hundred that are missing.</i>

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<i>That he talked about eight hundred
at the Pentagon</i>

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airplanes, they were passengers and crews.</i>

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<i>For now are up to about 1,300.</i>

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<i>And it is expected to go much higher</i>

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<i>Twenty four hundred people
altogether were killed in Pearl Harbor.</i>

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<i>They were military personnel
for the most part.</i>

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on military installations.</i>

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<i>But we know who did it.</i>

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<i>This is a different kind of a war.
In a new century.</i>

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<i>Conflicts like this
can bond so many people</i>

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<i>I think all of that
is going to have to be…</i>

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<i>In the midst of our outrage and anger…</i>

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<i>we have to show the word
that we can respond to this</i>

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<i>both with determination…</i>

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-So what did you tell Kennedy?
-That I'll think about it.

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That you're my partner
and I'd have to talk to you.

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I mean I know why he asked us.

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with this kind of expertize?

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If that. If that.

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-Asbestos. Agent Orange.
-Yeah.

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Those were hot-buttoned cases, too.

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Yeah.

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I'll let you know
how the Committee hearing goes.

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Yeah.

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SEPTEMBER 22, 2001

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I know Teddy appreciates it.

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{\an8} U.S. CAPITOL

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-Sure.
-We want our best trial lawyers.

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We're needing your support on this thing.

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Yeah.

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Are your people OK? Kids, family?

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Yeah, Mike was in his dorm in NYU,
he's all right.

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New Bill on the floor.

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The Air Transportation Safety
and System Stabilization Act.

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Wait, they're bailing out the airlines?

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More like the whole economy.

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If the victims of these attacks
or their families

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attempt to sue the airline industry
for damages we will go bankrupt.</font>

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And never mind whether they will or not,
the legal cost alone.

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And that's when we might as well
just hand those terrorists the victory.

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Because we're paralyzed.

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Deliveries, communal travel,
the whole economy grinding to a halt.

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What we're facing is a national emergency.

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Help us come up with another way.

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Brass tacks here.

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You're trying to prevent law suits
from the victims.

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That's what they're saying.

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That's not what we're saying.

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It's called due process.

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Limit. We're saying limit civil suits
against the airline.

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to the people
most impacted by these attacks.

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Stop grandstanding.

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What we're proposing is a treasury fund

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offering tort-style compensation
to the victims.

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For their economic losses.
Something for pain and suffering.

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Yes. But coming from us, Congress.
Not the courts.

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the claimants promise not to sue.

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-Corporate bailout.
-For Christ's Sake, Lee.

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What, you're calling it charity?

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Yes. Government-sponsored charity.

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With strings attached.

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Ken, help me out here.

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Law suit could take decades.

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Yes.

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And the victims might still lose.

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This is for their own good.

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And the nation's.

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How many victims are there?

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Well… We don't really know yet.

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A special master we select
will have to negotiate all settlements.

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The same dollar value
for every loss of life.

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But those towers had CEOs and janitors.

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They won't all say "yes"
to the same number.

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And even if they did?

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Anybody wanna go on record
with what that number is?

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Yeah… Well… pretty soon

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of putting numbers on a check.

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So, you're saying what?
You wanna do this job?

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Well, no. I mean…

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Well, I mean…
We're discussing it right now.

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So…

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Look, you're telling me you're not sick
about it, watching all of this on TV?

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<font color="

253
00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:29,215
-Well…
-But…

254
00:17:29,298 --> 00:17:32,385
It's just tough stuff, Kenny.

255
00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:35,305
I know. It is. Very tough. Yeah.

256
00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:37,015
And you're not exactly--

257
00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:40,894
You're not a rabbi or a priest.

258
00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:42,061
-You're a lawyer.
-I know.

259
00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:44,981
And that's exactly
what these people need right now.

260
00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:46,524
<font color="

261
00:17:46,607 --> 00:17:48,276
You know, I hire a team.

262
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,196
I draft an objective formula.

263
00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:53,781
And I dispense reasonable payments.

264
00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:55,325
-Just like that?
-Yeah.

265
00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:58,285
It's no different than my previous cases
in that regard.

266
00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:01,955
Look, this is something I'm good at.

267
00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:04,040
This is something…

268
00:18:05,876 --> 00:18:08,044
<font color="

269
00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:20,808
Judge Weinstien told me how you

270
00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:23,937
reached a settlement on DES.

271
00:18:24,020 --> 00:18:26,439
Ten years of court house war.

272
00:18:26,522 --> 00:18:28,441
You brought both sides to a motel room,

273
00:18:28,524 --> 00:18:30,527
told them they can stay
as long as they all wanted

274
00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,112
but they couldn't leave
until they reached a settlement.

275
00:18:33,195 --> 00:18:34,989
<font color="
-It is.

276
00:18:35,072 --> 00:18:37,240
I did let them order room service.

277
00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,493
You know, Attorney General…

278
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:42,789
People are rational animals.

279
00:18:42,872 --> 00:18:45,458
I find if you force them to the table

280
00:18:45,541 --> 00:18:48,585
most behave in a way
that makes the most sense.

281
00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:51,589
It's hard to believe
you lived in Washington.

282
00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:54,968
<font color="

283
00:18:55,051 --> 00:18:57,762
I find that what works best is compromise.

284
00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:00,223
No one walks away too happy,

285
00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:02,141
just happy enough to walk away.

286
00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:06,186
And when you walk away today,
what outcome makes you happy enough?

287
00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:09,064
I'd like to have the job, John.

288
00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,816
No one wants this job.

289
00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:14,069
<font color="

290
00:19:15,071 --> 00:19:16,905
That narrows down your options.

291
00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:20,909
I suppose it does.

292
00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:24,412
Except that you're a democrat.

293
00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,001
Teddy's former chief of staff.
Did you hope I overlook that?

294
00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:31,296
Well, I was hoping you'd see that
as a good thing.

295
00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,756
I mean, you said it yourself,
this is a hot potato.

296
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,092
<font color="

297
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:39,262
you know, a party man,
or a friend of the President, then…

298
00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:40,972
They blame us if it fails.

299
00:19:41,055 --> 00:19:42,055
Right.

300
00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:46,436
Pick me. It's the opposition's fault.

301
00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:50,940
Unless for some reason,
by some miracle I pull this off.

302
00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:52,567
-In which case--
-Don't we look open-minded

303
00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:55,151
<font color="
to find you.

304
00:19:56,215 --> 00:19:59,295
{\an8} OFFICES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

305
00:19:56,612 --> 00:20:00,740
It is felt. And I'm speaking
for the White House here.

306
00:20:01,575 --> 00:20:04,579
For the program to succeed in staving off

307
00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:07,498
full-on economic cataclysm,

308
00:20:07,581 --> 00:20:12,252
no fewer than 80 percent
of eligible claimants must opt in.

309
00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:16,131
<font color="

310
00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,050
That shouldn't be a problem.

311
00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,971
Well, congratulations, special master.

312
00:20:24,014 --> 00:20:25,807
You got any more surprises for me?

313
00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:26,892
Yeah.

314
00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:29,102
I'd like to work for free.

315
00:20:30,146 --> 00:20:33,189
Everyone, come in here for a…

316
00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,861
Camille and I want to thank you

317
00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:41,157
<font color="
responsibilities

318
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,994
while we devote our time to this pro Bono.

319
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:47,163
It's not gonna be easy.

320
00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:48,984
And we sure welcome all of your help.

321
00:20:49,123 --> 00:20:51,358
But if we do our job

322
00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:55,004
the way I know we can, well….

323
00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:56,838
We just might make a difference.

324
00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,216
<font color="

325
00:21:10,728 --> 00:21:12,730
This is your psyching yourself up

326
00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:15,273
for considering a quick escape.

327
00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:19,237
When was the last time
I took one that I couldn't handle?

328
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,280
Brockton Track meet, 1971.

329
00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:23,574
I came in second.

330
00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,265
And you still remember who beat you?

331
00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:26,577
Felianado.

332
00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:28,495
<font color="

333
00:21:30,706 --> 00:21:32,495
You don't know how to lose, Kenny.

334
00:21:33,584 --> 00:21:35,336
Yeah, well, this one's…

335
00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:36,503
You know.

336
00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:38,880
Not that kind of case.

337
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,216
It is not winning.

338
00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,301
That's what I'm afraid of.

339
00:21:43,443 --> 00:21:44,390
Ken.

340
00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:45,762
The call for you.

341
00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:47,889
<font color="

342
00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:52,562
-Will you take it here?
-Yeah.

343
00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:53,728
Line one.

344
00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:58,234
Yeah, this is Ken Feinberg.

345
00:21:58,317 --> 00:21:59,651
Please hold for the President.

346
00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:03,531
-Hello, Mr. President.
-Ken?

347
00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:05,491
-Is this Ken Feinberg?
-Yeah.

348
00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:08,161
Ken, I wanna congratulate you
on this thing. Yeah.

349
00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:09,871
<font color="
-Well…

350
00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:12,540
But listen,
you're taking the heat on this. OK?

351
00:22:12,623 --> 00:22:15,793
Now I would not wish this job
on my worst enemy.

352
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:19,170
They tell me you're the type of guy
that takes no prisoners.

353
00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:22,341
I'm kidding, Counselor.
I'm kidding. I like to josh.

354
00:22:22,424 --> 00:22:24,175
-Did I scare you off?
-No, Sir.

355
00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:26,262
<font color="

356
00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,014
-I'm still here.
-Oh, up there, OK. Good.

357
00:22:28,097 --> 00:22:31,517
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thank you very much.

358
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,603
You won't regret this.

359
00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:34,686
Better hope not.

360
00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:37,647
OK.

361
00:23:20,409 --> 00:23:22,484
NOVEMBER 26, 2001

362
00:23:58,395 --> 00:24:00,523
-Good morning.
-Good morning.

363
00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:04,235
I assume you've all met,
but this is Priya Khundi.</font>

364
00:24:04,318 --> 00:24:07,779
Priya graduated first in my class,
last year, Georgetown.

365
00:24:08,322 --> 00:24:10,992
And after she passed the bar
I offered her a place here.

366
00:24:11,075 --> 00:24:14,704
But she very politely turned me down

367
00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,163
for a big fancy company
down on Wall Street.

368
00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:21,292
Their main office was on the 98th floor
of the North Tower.

369
00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,921
<font color="

370
00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:27,967
Do you all have copies of the statute?

371
00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:29,969
The HR 2926.

372
00:24:30,052 --> 00:24:33,806
"The Air Transportation Safety
and System Stabilization Act."

373
00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:35,141
OK, who's read it?

374
00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:37,476
-Great.
-Did it take you long?

375
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,020
-Not really.
-You wanna know why?

376
00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:40,313
Because it's short.

377
00:24:40,396 --> 00:24:44,317
<font color="
in this law.

378
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,694
What it says is that the victims
and their families

379
00:24:46,770 --> 00:24:50,865
will be compensated
based on economic value loss.

380
00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:54,285
What that means,
they left up to the special master.

381
00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:57,663
Us. It's up to us to write the rules.

382
00:24:57,746 --> 00:25:00,750
Ken and I've done it before
on other cases and it is always messy.

383
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:02,627
<font color="

384
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:06,295
Like who's eligible, who gets how much,
where do we draw the line.

385
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,131
Where do we start?

386
00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:14,180
Eighty percent, Priya.

387
00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:16,057
That's our target from the DOJ.

388
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,392
If we don't hit that number
the plan won't work.

389
00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:20,186
And if fewer claimants come aboard

390
00:25:20,269 --> 00:25:23,314
<font color="
could crater the economy.

391
00:25:23,397 --> 00:25:25,604
-So we are told.
-No pressure, people.

392
00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:30,821
Now, for every claimant we'll need to
calculate a dollar value for the human loss,

393
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:33,032
whether it's a loss of limb
or loss of life.

394
00:25:33,449 --> 00:25:37,161
Most of the people who died that day
were providers for their families.

395
00:25:37,244 --> 00:25:38,496
<font color="

396
00:25:38,579 --> 00:25:41,123
but we can help their loved ones
pay their bills.

397
00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:42,474
Now, you people understand

398
00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:46,300
we're not gonna be able to haggle
every case subjectively.

399
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,547
That's where the math comes in.

400
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:51,382
So… we gonna need a rubric.

401
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:55,044
These are the latest actuarial tables
from the top casualty

402
00:25:55,144 --> 00:25:56,630
<font color="

403
00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:59,308
And we use this numbers as a basis.

404
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,894
Yeah, you guys study up on these

405
00:26:01,977 --> 00:26:04,103
and help Camille
come up with a proposal.

406
00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:07,817
OK, so West Street.

407
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:09,734
South Ferry.

408
00:26:10,027 --> 00:26:11,570
Lower Broadway.

409
00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:14,115
And Canal Street.

410
00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:15,728
OK, here's one.

411
00:26:16,299 --> 00:26:17,879
<font color="

412
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,370
How to decide who gets the money?

413
00:26:19,470 --> 00:26:21,080
Well, if there's a will we follow it.

414
00:26:21,163 --> 00:26:22,331
And where there isn't one?

415
00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:23,748
We follow state law.

416
00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,127
The state they died in
or the state they came from?

417
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,693
The state of residence.

418
00:26:27,795 --> 00:26:29,255
<font color="

419
00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:30,797
What do we do about them?

420
00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:35,238
All right, let's talk about the deadline.

421
00:26:35,385 --> 00:26:38,639
The statute gives us two years
and a month from today.

422
00:26:38,722 --> 00:26:41,701
That's December 22nd, 2003.

423
00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:43,060
That feels short.

424
00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:44,770
Not for families in grief.

425
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,605
We could file for an extension.

426
00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:48,941
<font color="

427
00:26:49,062 --> 00:26:52,436
If we extend it.
Go hem and haw. They won't act.

428
00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,696
That line is our friend here.

429
00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:58,324
OK.

430
00:26:59,493 --> 00:27:01,162
What are we forgetting?

431
00:27:01,245 --> 00:27:02,411
Their names.

432
00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:05,624
So far we have a dozen lists,
but nothing comprehensive.

433
00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:10,379
Flight manifests and the Pentagon.
Those are the easy ones.</font>

434
00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:12,679
NYPD and FDNY, they have a list.

435
00:27:12,736 --> 00:27:16,385
And big companies like Cantor Fitzgerald,
they're putting some list together.

436
00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:20,014
But as for the records
of who passed through the doors that day.

437
00:27:20,097 --> 00:27:21,265
They are all gone.

438
00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:23,805
We don't even know
how many names we're looking for.

439
00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:36,547
CHARLIE'S CHICKEN PICCATA

440
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:43,971
<font color="
NICHOLAS L. DONATO

441
00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,653
WE WILL NEVER FORGET

442
00:29:41,753 --> 00:29:43,134
TO OUR HEROES

443
00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:07,638
MIDTOWN, MANHATTAN

444
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:19,235
Relax, we've done
this kind of thing before.

445
00:30:19,318 --> 00:30:22,863
No, this one is raw,
those aren't lawyers out there.

446
00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:24,989
Good. I can't stand lawyers.

447
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,284
<font color="

448
00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:30,119
Come on, be a person not a politician.

449
00:30:34,201 --> 00:30:35,639
OK. Good luck.

450
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:36,667
Thank you.

451
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,100
Good afternoon.

452
00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:55,271
Thank you for coming.

453
00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:57,690
As you may know, I am Kenneth Feinberg.

454
00:30:57,773 --> 00:30:59,694
I am the special master

455
00:31:00,157 --> 00:31:05,446
of the September 11th
victim compensation fund.</font>

456
00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:11,077
I would like today to tell you…

457
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:17,835
Would like to tell you
how the 9/11 fund will work.

458
00:31:17,918 --> 00:31:22,421
You've all been given copies of this,
the presumptive claims formula.

459
00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:25,342
And quite soon

460
00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:30,346
we'll be sending this along to a Congress
for a comment period.

461
00:31:31,098 --> 00:31:34,727
Upon approval
there will be no further changes.

462
00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:36,395
<font color="
-I've got a question for you.

463
00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,230
-I'm sorry.
-I've got a question for you.

464
00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:41,315
If you could can hold your questions
till after my remarks.

465
00:31:41,942 --> 00:31:46,739
Now I'd ask you
to refer to the table, the top, page two.

466
00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:54,246
So as you can see
the formula is actually fairly streamlined.

467
00:31:54,329 --> 00:31:55,581
Why do we need one?

468
00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:57,166
<font color="

469
00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:58,916
Why do we need a formula?

470
00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:02,378
Why isn't there
an equal payment for everybody?

471
00:32:02,838 --> 00:32:06,507
My daughter's life is worth just as much
as anybody's in the corner office.

472
00:32:07,092 --> 00:32:11,180
Unfortunately that aspect of a law
has been out of our control.

473
00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:13,347
My boy was a firefighter.

474
00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:17,019
<font color="

475
00:32:17,102 --> 00:32:21,272
than the guy pushing pencils
in trade stock?

476
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:22,606
No.

477
00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:27,905
Certainly not as a human being, no.

478
00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:30,240
Their lives ended the same way.

479
00:32:30,323 --> 00:32:32,493
But their mortgages did differ.

480
00:32:32,576 --> 00:32:33,494
How dare you!

481
00:32:33,694 --> 00:32:36,038
He's just here to shut us
so we don't sue.

482
00:32:37,267 --> 00:32:38,211
-Hi.
-Hi.</font>

483
00:32:38,311 --> 00:32:41,614
-Have they-- Has it started already?
-They're just starting. You're fine.

484
00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:43,128
Would you like a claims form?

485
00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:46,131
No, I have my own.
I printed it off the web.

486
00:32:46,214 --> 00:32:49,218
And there's a typo on page three
that you should know about.

487
00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:52,638
And also there are…
I should sign in here, right?

488
00:32:52,721 --> 00:32:54,138
Yes, please do.

489
00:32:57,267 --> 00:33:00,145
<font color="
that need to be addressed.

490
00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:02,523
There are substantive. OK?
And they need to be addressed.

491
00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:03,606
OK.

492
00:33:07,861 --> 00:33:10,572
I may propose… Look…
As a legal professional

493
00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,200
I know chasing a lawsuit
is a big mistake.

494
00:33:13,283 --> 00:33:14,743
Did you lose anybody?

495
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:16,703
-Hold on.
-Did you lose anybody in your family?

496
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:18,455
<font color="

497
00:33:18,538 --> 00:33:24,169
Congress mandated
that I calculate the economic value.

498
00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:26,212
Very good, <i>economical</i>.

499
00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:27,213
Please.

500
00:33:27,747 --> 00:33:29,424
You're just afraid of being sued.

501
00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:31,218
I understand how you feel--

502
00:33:31,301 --> 00:33:33,302
-Understand?
-Please.

503
00:33:33,887 --> 00:33:36,515
-What I mean is that I sympathize.
-Who did you lose?</font>

504
00:33:36,565 --> 00:33:41,186
No, listen, as a legal professional
I reiterate it will be years in court.

505
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:43,020
You might win, you might not.

506
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,567
This is fast money and it's tax free.

507
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:48,235
Put your thinking caps on.

508
00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:51,196
-This is the only game in town.
-How dare you!

509
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,489
You think this is a game?

510
00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,114
No. I'm sorry.

511
00:33:56,243 --> 00:33:57,327
<font color="

512
00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:00,122
We lost brothers.
Now they sent some Jew lawyer--

513
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:01,705
Hey! Hey!

514
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,837
I wish we could spit on your grave
the way you spit on ours.

515
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,339
-Please. Please
-Wait everybody. Wait.

516
00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:13,384
This man, he did not cause our situation.

517
00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:18,265
He's here to tell us how the government
intends to deal with it.</font>

518
00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:21,559
And I for one
would just like to hear him out.

519
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,937
Thank you.

520
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:28,566
Thank you. And I was… Look…

521
00:34:31,610 --> 00:34:36,825
This meeting is only…
It's purely introductory.

522
00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:41,455
That's it. Any questions you have
that aren't answered in the pamphlet,

523
00:34:41,538 --> 00:34:45,792
I will make my staff available
for private hearings.

524
00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:50,629
<font color="
and the filing deadline.

525
00:34:57,012 --> 00:34:58,222
What do you think?

526
00:34:58,305 --> 00:35:01,308
Maybe poor choice of words here and there.

527
00:35:01,391 --> 00:35:02,683
Here and there.

528
00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:04,853
-Camille?
-Yeah?

529
00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:06,271
We need to get back to the office.

530
00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:07,731
Mr. Feinberg?

531
00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,857
Mr. Feinberg, give me a minute, please.

532
00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:13,320
<font color="

533
00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:16,655
No, not at all. Hi.
Ken Feinberg.

534
00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:18,909
What happened there? Did you break that?

535
00:35:18,992 --> 00:35:22,077
My son, Andy broke his last year.
Rugby injury.

536
00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:25,039
South Tower.

537
00:35:29,336 --> 00:35:32,506
Jesus. Thank you for your courage.

538
00:35:32,671 --> 00:35:36,426
My brother too, Nick, Nicholas.
Same line of company.

539
00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:38,302
<font color="

540
00:35:42,432 --> 00:35:43,474
Well…

541
00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:45,644
Gosh… I'm sorry.

542
00:35:45,727 --> 00:35:49,773
Yeah. I've lost track of him
after the first one fell and…

543
00:35:49,856 --> 00:35:51,899
The captain says
he went back in to help.

544
00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:55,445
Well, that takes a hero.

545
00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,988
Yeah, except there wasn't any use.

546
00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:01,617
I mean the engineers.
They knew the second one was coming down.</font>

547
00:36:01,928 --> 00:36:03,412
They told PD to call the evacs

548
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:04,997
but our radios.

549
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,331
-They're garbage.
-Yeah.

550
00:36:06,448 --> 00:36:08,208
They hardly even work
in high-rise buildings.

551
00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:10,459
If you believe that, in New York City.

552
00:36:11,044 --> 00:36:13,463
Look, we've been filing
the same damn reports for years.

553
00:36:13,546 --> 00:36:15,841
And you can guess
where it tells to shove them.</font>

554
00:36:15,924 --> 00:36:17,634
That's why things went so sideways
as they did.

555
00:36:17,803 --> 00:36:19,595
The negligence. Compound chief**

556
00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:20,761
fucking…

557
00:36:23,056 --> 00:36:24,473
-Sorry.
-It's all right.

558
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,979
When you file your report, whatever it is
that you do at the end of this.

559
00:36:29,062 --> 00:36:30,564
I want Nicky story in it.

560
00:36:30,647 --> 00:36:34,026
To make sure that they changed things
so it doesn't ever happen this way again.</font>

561
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:35,344
-Can you do that?
-Well…

562
00:36:35,402 --> 00:36:36,570
Can you promise me?

563
00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:40,073
-We can certainly look into that.
-Not just talk.

564
00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:41,490
I want it to change.

565
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:43,285
That's why I'm here.

566
00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:44,661
Why I'm still here.

567
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:46,163
-I understand.
-I believe that.

568
00:36:46,246 --> 00:36:47,247
Can you hold?

569
00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:49,581
<font color="

570
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:54,212
-Frank, this is Camille Biros.
-Hi.

571
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:55,839
She's my deputy administrator.

572
00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:58,717
And if you talk to her
she can explain the whole process.

573
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,427
I don't need anything else. I just…

574
00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:04,680
I need you to give me a word
on this things, Mr. Feinberg.

575
00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:06,367
Ken.

576
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:08,310
<font color="

577
00:37:08,393 --> 00:37:11,729
Nicky's widow, our whole family,
we'll sign up for your fund, no problem.

578
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:16,483
Yeah, well, we're certainly
going to take a look at it.

579
00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:27,663
Website on the bottom.
First meeting tomorrow. Here you go folks.

580
00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,622
First meeting tomorrow
if you'd like to attend. First meeting.

581
00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:41,385
We need to talk about this.

582
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,053
<font color="

583
00:37:43,136 --> 00:37:45,138
Website on the bottom, OK?

584
00:37:45,221 --> 00:37:46,890
-Hello.
-Hi, how are you?

585
00:37:46,973 --> 00:37:50,018
Hey, I wanna thank you
for your help back there.

586
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,186
I gotta tell you I was…

587
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,961
Here you go.
There's a website at the bottom there.

588
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:56,608
Little worried when you stood up.
But I'm glad you did.

589
00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:59,569
<font color="

590
00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:00,987
-Yeah.
-Charles Wolf.

591
00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:02,823
And you'll be seeing a lot of me.

592
00:38:02,906 --> 00:38:04,658
Good to know, and it's Ken.

593
00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:07,119
I think you gonna find
that I'm one of your harshest critics.

594
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,579
Sorry to hear that.

595
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,957
My wife died that day.

596
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,500
And everything
about this formula offends me.</font>

597
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:18,630
Here you go. Take one of those please.
And I'll give you one too.

598
00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:22,300
I've set up a page on the World Wide Web.
The website, right there at the bottom.

599
00:38:22,383 --> 00:38:23,635
It's called fixthefund.

600
00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:28,140
Here you go, fixthefund.
Here you go. There's two there.

601
00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:31,101
And if you'd like to visit it
and would like to come to our meeting,

602
00:38:31,184 --> 00:38:32,936
<font color="

603
00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:34,229
Here you go. Take that please.

604
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,733
And I'd love it if you would attend.
Also I have this for you.

605
00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:41,319
This is something… There are a number
of some corrections and things.

606
00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:43,697
And I think its very important
that you address those.

607
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:45,574
Here you are. Take this, folks.

608
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,451
<font color="

609
00:38:47,534 --> 00:38:49,119
Thank you. There's a couple of them
there for you.

610
00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:50,661
-Nice.
-OK. All right.

611
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,414
fixthefund

612
00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:55,417
-We're not gonna rewrite the formula.
-They don't trust us, Ken.

613
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,335
They don't understand
this is for their own good.

614
00:38:57,418 --> 00:39:00,756
The airlines would bury them
in litigation until they have nothing left.</font>

615
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:02,631
You think I don't know that?

616
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:05,886
This is different.
Didn't you feel it in there?

617
00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,430
I mean our other cases like this,
Agent Orange, asbestos.

618
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,807
Those were settled after years in court.
People had moved on.

619
00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:12,476
These people aren't there yet.

620
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:14,686
<font color="

621
00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:16,229
We need to be objective for them.

622
00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:20,399
Hey! Something for you, Feinberg.

623
00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,151
Fuck you!

624
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:25,757
What?

625
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,347
O'Donnell T., CFO. Income: 750,000.
14,2 million.

626
00:39:58,354 --> 00:40:01,398
Dishwasher. Income: 23,015.
350 thousand.

627
00:40:11,636 --> 00:40:14,230
JANUARY 2002
23 MONTHS TO DEADLINE

628
00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,224
<font color="

629
00:40:19,427 --> 00:40:21,298
Families got in last night.

630
00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:24,756
O'Leary can't wait to help us out
with the immigration status and the INS.

631
00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,215
So we'll use their conference room.

632
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:33,013
You're coming?

633
00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:47,069
Sorry, it's just small spaces these days
and heights.

634
00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:49,655
I'll be fine.

635
00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:56,830
<font color="

636
00:40:56,913 --> 00:40:59,545
but I wanna reassure you
that your citizenship

637
00:40:59,557 --> 00:41:00,895
or your immigration status

638
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,244
will have absolutely no affect
on our process here today.

639
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:07,589
Everything you tell us
will be kept strictly confidential.

640
00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:42,500
We're all looking at your tables
and not liking what we're seeing.

641
00:41:42,583 --> 00:41:45,128
<font color="
the yearly compensation.

642
00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:46,922
What about commissions, bonuses?

643
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:48,298
We represent some high worth individuals.

644
00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:51,509
And that kind of income comes and goes.
There's no guarantees with that.

645
00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:54,471
-That's why we stick to the salary.
-That's unacceptable. Come on, Ken.

646
00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:57,098
You'll also have to strike this rule
deducting life insurance.</font>

647
00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,600
This is not a negotiation here.

648
00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:01,353
Why should our client's families
be penalized for planning well?

649
00:42:01,436 --> 00:42:02,894
Come on.

650
00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:05,190
No one's being penalized.

651
00:42:05,273 --> 00:42:06,483
Thank you, Lee.

652
00:42:06,566 --> 00:42:10,111
We're just being paid off
to keep our clients outta court.

653
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:11,654
Well, that's an oversimplification.

654
00:42:11,754 --> 00:42:13,865
<font color="

655
00:42:13,948 --> 00:42:16,450
I was in the room too, remember?

656
00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:21,456
I do wanna point out that the law requires

657
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:24,167
we base awards on income

658
00:42:24,234 --> 00:42:27,462
but we've decided on a floor payout

659
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,422
for all lost lives

660
00:42:29,505 --> 00:42:31,506
of two hundred thousand dollars.

661
00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:54,719
<font color="

662
00:42:54,989 --> 00:42:57,076
Is that split between more people

663
00:42:57,283 --> 00:42:59,119
or just the families here?

664
00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:02,871
No, it's not a split at all.
It's per decedent.

665
00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:18,178
This is a report by an economist,
a distinguished one

666
00:43:18,846 --> 00:43:22,183
predicting future compensation growth rates
for our clients.

667
00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,102
<font color="
as a base line.

668
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,604
We're here as friends, Ken.

669
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:29,232
Your formula maybe enough

670
00:43:29,327 --> 00:43:31,776
for waitresses at windows on the world

671
00:43:31,859 --> 00:43:34,194
but our clients expect a little more.

672
00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:37,697
And if they can't get it from the fund

673
00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:40,826
they'll seek that remuneration elsewhere.

674
00:43:43,546 --> 00:43:44,688
<font color="

675
00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:48,542
A pack of wolves out for blood.

676
00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:49,876
Yours?

677
00:43:50,247 --> 00:43:51,566
Grateful.

678
00:43:53,044 --> 00:43:56,165
MAY 2002
17 MONTHS TO DEADLINE

679
00:44:03,733 --> 00:44:05,813
Are they all here to meet with the staff?

680
00:44:05,928 --> 00:44:09,825
Yeah, Priya and the others are helping out.
I'm meeting with as many as I can myself.

681
00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:11,441
Good. Very good.

682
00:44:11,524 --> 00:44:13,525
<font color="

683
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,613
They lost loved ones
that are gone forever

684
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:19,741
and nothing you do will fill that hole.

685
00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:23,161
And you'll feel cold and cruel at times

686
00:44:23,244 --> 00:44:25,038
because you can't make them happy

687
00:44:25,121 --> 00:44:26,121
but…

688
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,583
That's the job.

689
00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:33,670
Just try and remember
why you're doing it.</font>

690
00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:45,683
I hope this is all right.

691
00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:49,938
The stenographer will be here
just to keep a record of our conversation.

692
00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:51,271
Sure.

693
00:44:52,148 --> 00:44:54,024
Why don't you…

694
00:44:54,817 --> 00:44:57,611
Why don't you tell me
about your loved one.

695
00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:58,947
Anne Marie.

696
00:44:59,686 --> 00:45:01,513
Page 14.

697
00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:06,746
Part 2K talks about supporting documents
I should enclose.</font>

698
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:09,332
The financial stuff.

699
00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:12,167
So I dug up all these files here.

700
00:45:13,211 --> 00:45:14,711
What I could find.

701
00:45:15,645 --> 00:45:17,897
Honestly I don't know where to start.

702
00:45:18,404 --> 00:45:20,367
Let's see if we can make sense of it.

703
00:45:22,569 --> 00:45:26,039
It asks here if she was suffering
from any medical disabilities.

704
00:45:26,474 --> 00:45:27,517
What does that mean?

705
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,834
<font color="
of money you're paying?

706
00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:31,271
Not necessarily.

707
00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:34,606
Bullshit you guys are pulling.
This is like going to an insurance company.

708
00:45:34,847 --> 00:45:37,527
You gotta watch your back
with every goddamn thing you say with them.

709
00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:38,860
And it's the same thing here.

710
00:45:40,279 --> 00:45:42,614
My kids need money for the both of us.

711
00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:45,325
<font color="

712
00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:54,085
There's no way to cut me a cheque
before the official deadline?

713
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,797
That morning she was scheduled
for a different plane.

714
00:45:58,381 --> 00:46:01,633
but another girl called in sick and so…

715
00:46:02,551 --> 00:46:04,344
It was my sister.

716
00:46:07,181 --> 00:46:10,392
And she's the one
who called the tower on the radio.

717
00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:16,607
<font color="

718
00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:21,361
She must've been so scared.

719
00:46:24,699 --> 00:46:26,199
She sounded so calm.

720
00:46:28,244 --> 00:46:31,788
So elevators came
and everybody piled on.

721
00:46:33,374 --> 00:46:35,585
But there wasn't enough room
and so Greg said,

722
00:46:35,668 --> 00:46:37,544
"That's OK everyone.

723
00:46:38,421 --> 00:46:39,421
You go ahead."

724
00:46:42,174 --> 00:46:44,052
And there were two other women
who weren't ready</font>

725
00:46:44,135 --> 00:46:46,344
and so he said, "I'll wait with them."

726
00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:50,975
And so everyone else got out.

727
00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:53,018
And the another elevator never came.

728
00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:57,010
And I know that part of the story

729
00:46:57,110 --> 00:46:59,654
because he called me
when they were trapped there

730
00:46:59,701 --> 00:47:05,560
to say that he loved me and the children.

731
00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:07,907
He said…

732
00:47:12,663 --> 00:47:14,164
<font color="

733
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:18,002
And he was having difficulty breathing.

734
00:47:18,085 --> 00:47:20,309
And I could hear the women screaming
in the background

735
00:47:20,409 --> 00:47:21,875
that they didn't wanna die.

736
00:47:25,134 --> 00:47:28,928
And just then
he heard an announcement, they were…

737
00:47:29,472 --> 00:47:32,724
I heard it too. They were announcing
on the loud speakers.

738
00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:35,185
<font color="

739
00:47:38,481 --> 00:47:39,731
God, he has…

740
00:47:41,984 --> 00:47:44,319
He always had a sense of humor, and…

741
00:47:45,154 --> 00:47:47,864
While he was talking to me
I actually started to laugh.

742
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:50,784
He was joking to me and saying that,

743
00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:54,579
"I think I know
I have to get out of the building."

744
00:47:55,706 --> 00:48:00,251
And he was laughing so hard until he said,
"I have to go now.</font>

745
00:48:01,212 --> 00:48:05,090
Because I can't talk anymore,
because I'm having trouble with air."

746
00:48:33,202 --> 00:48:35,662
I know I'm not officially his next of kin.

747
00:48:37,957 --> 00:48:39,707
We never made it to Vermont.

748
00:48:42,086 --> 00:48:44,045
And Tom's parents don't…

749
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,925
Well, they are pretty traditional
military family.

750
00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:52,804
They pretend I don't exist.

751
00:48:56,058 --> 00:48:57,725
<font color="

752
00:48:58,686 --> 00:49:00,021
before the end.

753
00:49:00,104 --> 00:49:01,479
Not them.

754
00:49:06,902 --> 00:49:08,236
Machine picked up.

755
00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:11,239
I wasn't home.

756
00:49:14,535 --> 00:49:15,994
I'm so sorry.

757
00:49:17,204 --> 00:49:18,705
I know the rules.

758
00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,292
State law says
we were nothing to each other.

759
00:49:26,046 --> 00:49:27,881
But I'd like you to hear his voice.

760
00:49:31,802 --> 00:49:33,044
<font color="

761
00:49:33,137 --> 00:49:35,680
<i>By now I guess you've heard
about the mess in New York.</i>

762
00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:42,103
<i>Well, a plane just hit here too,
and all of us inside of the building…</i>

763
00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,067
OK, that's…
Would you turn that off please?

764
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:47,984
<i>I don't know if they showed it
on the news.</i>

765
00:49:48,402 --> 00:49:49,611
That's enough.

766
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:51,114
<font color="

767
00:49:51,197 --> 00:49:52,573
That's enough. Honestly.

768
00:49:56,619 --> 00:49:59,205
He was a civilian contractor
at the Pentagon.

769
00:49:59,288 --> 00:50:02,792
They were gonna have a civil union
but Tom's parents…

770
00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,919
They weren't even taking Graham's calls.

771
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:06,129
And what did you tell him?

772
00:50:06,212 --> 00:50:10,383
I told him that Virginia state law
has no protection for same-sex couples

773
00:50:10,466 --> 00:50:12,677
<font color="

774
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,638
Well, that's it then. I mean…
Our hands are tied.

775
00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:21,644
-We can't insert ourselves--
-Why can't we make exceptions?

776
00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:23,062
There are others.

777
00:50:23,145 --> 00:50:26,190
Last week a widow came in with cancer.

778
00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:28,568
She needs more
than we can give her by the rules.

779
00:50:28,651 --> 00:50:29,902
And she needs it expedited.

780
00:50:29,985 --> 00:50:33,030
<font color="
one case over another.

781
00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:35,740
We can't write new rules for every claimant.

782
00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:37,743
I know this is personal to you.

783
00:50:37,826 --> 00:50:39,787
You weren't in those rooms.

784
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:41,539
OK? You didn't listen to them.

785
00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:43,206
We're not therapists.

786
00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:47,710
Am I right? It's not our job.

787
00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:53,132
It's not like I don't care.
Of course I care.</font>

788
00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:56,012
How could you not care.
That's why we're here.

789
00:50:56,095 --> 00:50:58,972
But I need to stay impartial
for this to work.

790
00:50:59,265 --> 00:51:00,725
We set rules for a reason.

791
00:51:00,808 --> 00:51:02,935
We set deadlines for a reason.

792
00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:04,394
That's the job.

793
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:06,354
Camille, go on, tell her.

794
00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:15,697
Priya.

795
00:51:18,367 --> 00:51:19,200
Hey.

796
00:51:20,369 --> 00:51:21,661
<font color="
-Are you OK?

797
00:51:22,246 --> 00:51:23,413
Yeah, just…

798
00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:26,751
He thinks I'm taking it too personally.

799
00:51:26,895 --> 00:51:28,835
Come on, that is utter lying.

800
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,339
I think he's right.

801
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:36,134
It is personal for me.

802
00:51:39,138 --> 00:51:40,890
if I can't be objective

803
00:51:40,973 --> 00:51:42,765
then maybe I shouldn't be here.

804
00:51:45,978 --> 00:51:49,232
<font color="

805
00:51:49,411 --> 00:51:50,221
All right.

806
00:51:50,316 --> 00:51:53,089
Hey, see you tomorrow?

807
00:51:54,382 --> 00:51:55,462
Yeah.

808
00:52:13,255 --> 00:52:14,672
Holy…

809
00:52:16,008 --> 00:52:17,093
Gloria,

810
00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:19,887
call the restaurant

811
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,515
and see if DeeDee and the kids
are still eating dinner.

812
00:52:22,598 --> 00:52:24,225
Would you? Please

813
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,979
<font color="
The kids had trains to catch.</i>

814
00:52:28,062 --> 00:52:30,647
<i>They said to tell you though
that they understand.</i>

815
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:32,108
Oh.

816
00:52:33,067 --> 00:52:34,025
All right.

817
00:52:53,337 --> 00:52:55,339
I understand and I'm sorry.

818
00:52:58,842 --> 00:53:01,533
Go back tomorrow. I'll make sure--

819
00:53:02,531 --> 00:53:04,716
Is there a problem? Gloria?

820
00:53:05,974 --> 00:53:07,977
Ah, Mr. Donato, right?

821
00:53:08,060 --> 00:53:11,354
<font color="
but we had traffic so we're late.

822
00:53:12,189 --> 00:53:15,441
There's no one here.
The whole staff is gone.

823
00:53:16,276 --> 00:53:17,862
Oh, well…

824
00:53:17,945 --> 00:53:20,448
I'll take this one. Come on in my office.

825
00:53:20,531 --> 00:53:21,656
Not me.

826
00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:24,033
Them.

827
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:29,664
So…

828
00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:34,587
Frank told me about your husband.

829
00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:36,170
-Nick.
-Yeah.

830
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:38,715
<font color="

831
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,427
He said it's like blood money
to cover up mistakes.

832
00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:45,681
Well, at least you're open-minded.

833
00:53:45,764 --> 00:53:50,101
I just think that the boys might want
their dad's story told in your report.

834
00:53:50,644 --> 00:53:52,021
If that's a thing.

835
00:53:52,104 --> 00:53:54,063
Sure.

836
00:53:56,942 --> 00:53:59,736
Are you gonna take notes or something?

837
00:54:02,114 --> 00:54:03,489
<font color="

838
00:54:05,367 --> 00:54:10,580
Actually our stenographer
already went home for the day.

839
00:54:13,125 --> 00:54:14,375
Can't you type?

840
00:54:25,471 --> 00:54:26,847
Hold one a minute here.

841
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:28,055
Here we go.

842
00:54:29,506 --> 00:54:31,076
Why don't we…

843
00:54:32,019 --> 00:54:33,813
start with your name.

844
00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:36,272
okay Karen Donato

845
00:54:37,191 --> 00:54:38,608
My husband, Nick.

846
00:54:40,235 --> 00:54:42,987
<font color="

847
00:54:43,352 --> 00:54:46,617
Ladder 179, at the Staten Island.

848
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:47,825
Yeah.

849
00:54:57,244 --> 00:54:58,326
Do you…

850
00:54:58,587 --> 00:55:00,338
Tell me more about him.

851
00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:05,635
Do you have like a list of questions
you could ask me maybe?

852
00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:09,098
Well…

853
00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:10,891
Actually I don't…

854
00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:12,768
<font color="

855
00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:14,478
Yeah, I just… It's…

856
00:55:14,561 --> 00:55:16,272
It's harder than I thought it's gonna be.

857
00:55:16,355 --> 00:55:17,688
Yeah, I understand.

858
00:55:18,982 --> 00:55:21,235
-Well, if you are uncomfortable--
-My husband of eight years

859
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:23,611
and I can't even think of anything
to say about him.

860
00:55:25,113 --> 00:55:26,864
Well…

861
00:55:27,407 --> 00:55:29,909
<font color="

862
00:55:30,847 --> 00:55:32,031
Yeah.

863
00:55:32,086 --> 00:55:34,082
Oh, God. He was a great dad.

864
00:55:34,317 --> 00:55:36,643
He would come home every night after work,

865
00:55:37,005 --> 00:55:38,953
he'd throw the ball at Franky Jr.

866
00:55:39,033 --> 00:55:41,197
He would read Patty a book.

867
00:55:41,255 --> 00:55:43,466
He didn't even mind
when Tyler made number two.

868
00:55:43,549 --> 00:55:45,508
He said he liked changing diapers.

869
00:55:45,843 --> 00:55:47,593
<font color="

870
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:51,493
Yeah.

871
00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:57,728
He was my whole world.

872
00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:03,235
Can I have a tissue, please?

873
00:56:03,318 --> 00:56:04,360
Yeah.

874
00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:09,700
Here we go.

875
00:56:09,783 --> 00:56:10,825
Thank you.

876
00:56:12,828 --> 00:56:14,620
You know everybody keeps telling me

877
00:56:15,497 --> 00:56:16,789
to move on.

878
00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:19,584
I don't know how to do that.

879
00:56:21,587 --> 00:56:23,130
<font color="

880
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:24,632
Well, it's still very soon.

881
00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:26,132
No, never!

882
00:56:27,843 --> 00:56:29,678
-I'm really sorry.
-No.

883
00:56:29,761 --> 00:56:31,512
-That's all right. Look…
-I'm sorry.

884
00:56:31,847 --> 00:56:35,100
I just want you to know there's no pressure
signing under the fund today.

885
00:56:35,183 --> 00:56:36,852
And your status as a single mother--

886
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:38,979
<font color="

887
00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:40,397
Not now. No, but…

888
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,859
No, there's no money in the world
that's good enough for Nick.

889
00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,110
I didn't mean…

890
00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:47,112
I had him in my life.

891
00:56:47,195 --> 00:56:48,696
We had so many…

892
00:56:51,909 --> 00:56:53,868
dreams and plans.

893
00:56:56,496 --> 00:56:58,331
And things we were gonna do.

894
00:56:59,958 --> 00:57:02,793
<font color="

895
00:57:04,338 --> 00:57:07,256
He didn't even eat breakfast.
He was just gone.

896
00:57:10,886 --> 00:57:12,638
And now you're trying to give me money.

897
00:57:12,667 --> 00:57:14,348
Frank wants me to make a stand.

898
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:17,810
There are lawyers calling me
and telling me to sue everybody.

899
00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:20,853
And the phone just won't stop ringing.

900
00:57:21,521 --> 00:57:23,691
<font color="

901
00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:26,275
It's never the call
saying that they found his body.

902
00:57:26,902 --> 00:57:28,988
That they're gonna bring him home.

903
00:57:29,071 --> 00:57:30,696
And no offense,

904
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:35,828
I just want you, I want all of you
to please stop calling me.

905
00:57:36,052 --> 00:57:38,025
Please leave me alone.

906
00:57:41,223 --> 00:57:42,410
I'm sorry.

907
00:57:43,961 --> 00:57:45,754
<font color="

908
00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:19,829
Kenny?

909
00:58:23,291 --> 00:58:24,834
I met a widow today.

910
00:58:26,628 --> 00:58:27,753
Three kids.

911
00:58:29,423 --> 00:58:30,798
Can you imagine?

912
00:58:35,828 --> 00:58:37,228
No.

913
00:58:39,558 --> 00:58:41,017
I didn't know what to say.

914
00:58:45,063 --> 00:58:47,398
Sometimes there isn't anything to say.

915
00:59:04,374 --> 00:59:06,625
<i>Tower is blocked.</i>

916
00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:09,170
<font color="

917
00:59:10,756 --> 00:59:12,424
<i>Oh, God. I'll call when I get out.</i>

918
00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:15,094
<i>People are collapsing from the smoke.</i>

919
00:59:15,177 --> 00:59:17,762
<i>Bye, bye. Sorry.</i>

920
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,808
<i>Hi, Anna.</i>

921
00:59:23,393 --> 00:59:25,978
<i>By now I guess you've heard
about the mess in New York.</i>

922
00:59:27,981 --> 00:59:33,152
<i>Well, a plane just hit here too.
On the western side of the building.</i></font>

923
00:59:42,287 --> 00:59:44,705
FIX THE FUND

924
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:54,256
WHY IS THE
VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND UNFAIR?

925
01:00:00,470 --> 01:00:03,265
<i>This is not the preferred option
of the President of the United States</i>

926
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:05,059
<i>or any member of this body,</i>

927
01:00:05,143 --> 01:00:06,894
<i>this is the last option.</i>

928
01:00:07,395 --> 01:00:09,063
<i>We can make the case.</i>

929
01:00:10,139 --> 01:00:12,860
<font color="
that Saddam Hussein continues</i>

930
01:00:12,918 --> 01:00:16,361
<i>this build up of weapons
of mass destruction and his desire</i>

931
01:00:16,389 --> 01:00:19,871
<i>to network even up to an including
nuclear weapons.</i>

932
01:00:20,502 --> 01:00:23,662
<i>But we are not the ones
who's forcing this issue.</i>

933
01:00:23,745 --> 01:00:26,415
<i>The President of the United States
and his resolution is not forcing an issue.</i>

934
01:00:26,498 --> 01:00:29,501
<font color="
who's forcing this issue.</i>

935
01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:32,002
<i>But we will if it comes to this debate…</i>

936
01:00:34,756 --> 01:00:38,093
<i>Next stop on this Express train
is New York Penn Station.</i>

937
01:00:38,176 --> 01:00:40,636
<i>Next stop - New York Penn Station.</i>

938
01:00:39,089 --> 01:00:41,097
{\an8} PRIYA KHUNDI, ESQ.
KYLE AND MACALLAN

939
01:00:58,647 --> 01:00:59,880
FIX THE FUND

940
01:00:59,979 --> 01:01:02,044
FED UP
WITH THE 9/11 VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND?</font>

941
01:01:19,217 --> 01:01:21,051
Excuse me for a moment, please.

942
01:01:26,725 --> 01:01:29,143
Thank you.
We'll start in a few minutes.

943
01:01:29,644 --> 01:01:31,480
An enemy in our amidst.

944
01:01:31,563 --> 01:01:33,003
-Hi.
-Hi. Priya Khundi.

945
01:01:33,087 --> 01:01:34,421
Yes, I remember.

946
01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:37,569
Did Mr Feinberg send you here to

947
01:01:37,652 --> 01:01:39,820
spy on us or to listen?

948
01:01:40,499 --> 01:01:42,250
<font color="

949
01:01:43,742 --> 01:01:46,620
Must be easier for him
if we just remain numbers, right?

950
01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:47,870
More manageable.

951
01:01:48,827 --> 01:01:50,787
He's right. It is.

952
01:01:51,249 --> 01:01:53,083
I understand, yeah, yeah.

953
01:01:54,252 --> 01:01:55,461
But you came.

954
01:01:56,087 --> 01:01:58,505
Yeah, I've been following your blog.

955
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,968
Your wife, Catherine,

956
01:02:01,051 --> 01:02:03,470
<font color="

957
01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:04,972
Yes, yeah.

958
01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:08,265
That, was her dream job.

959
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,518
It would have been mine too.

960
01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:16,482
It was…
I was gonna start that week.

961
01:02:17,567 --> 01:02:18,859
Oh, my…

962
01:02:21,655 --> 01:02:23,572
Well, I'm glad that…

963
01:02:27,369 --> 01:02:29,036
So, can I ask you then?

964
01:02:32,123 --> 01:02:34,084
What would your life be worth

965
01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:36,961
<font color="

966
01:02:37,837 --> 01:02:39,838
I'm not married, so,

967
01:02:40,423 --> 01:02:41,884
less than Catherine's.

968
01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:43,467
And do you think that's fair?

969
01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:46,595
No.

970
01:02:46,930 --> 01:02:48,347
But your boss does.

971
01:02:48,807 --> 01:02:51,308
He doesn't think fair exists.

972
01:02:52,102 --> 01:02:53,060
Do you?

973
01:02:53,645 --> 01:02:54,770
Honestly,

974
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,522
I don't know.

975
01:02:57,857 --> 01:03:00,317
<font color="

976
01:03:07,730 --> 01:03:11,316
DECEMBER 2002

977
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,058
{\an8} COMMITED 12 %
GOAL 80 %

978
01:03:12,706 --> 01:03:15,250
This is the latest, huh? This is…
You sure

979
01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:16,210
this is the latest?

980
01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,212
These totals are accurate?

981
01:03:18,295 --> 01:03:19,712
Technically, we rounded up.

982
01:03:20,839 --> 01:03:22,339
It's all right, it's OK.

983
01:03:22,841 --> 01:03:24,676
<font color="
That's eternity.

984
01:03:24,759 --> 01:03:26,970
It's like I say,
people will wait for a deadline.

985
01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:28,430
They're just avoiding it for now.

986
01:03:28,513 --> 01:03:32,351
They are not avoiding it.
They're just avoiding us.

987
01:03:32,434 --> 01:03:33,642
I mean, look at this.

988
01:03:34,602 --> 01:03:36,313
Oh yeah, yeah, "Fix the Fund,"

989
01:03:36,396 --> 01:03:39,650
I remember, yeah, this is my pal,
it's my buddy from the Town Hall.</font>

990
01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:44,321
His web page is receiving more
than twice the visits ours does everyday.

991
01:03:44,404 --> 01:03:47,324
He's got a mailing list
of almost 7000 names.

992
01:03:47,407 --> 01:03:48,991
So does that phone book.

993
01:03:49,701 --> 01:03:51,035
I went to see him.

994
01:03:51,202 --> 01:03:52,619
I told her it was OK to go.

995
01:03:52,865 --> 01:03:54,032
Look, he is a leader.

996
01:03:54,179 --> 01:03:57,167
-He is a gadfly.
-But he's earning peoples' trust.</font>

997
01:03:57,250 --> 01:03:59,962
Every income level, first responders.

998
01:04:00,045 --> 01:04:01,713
That's what we should be doing.

999
01:04:01,796 --> 01:04:04,340
If he says so, all of them will sue.

1000
01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:08,136
What's he asking for?

1001
01:04:08,219 --> 01:04:09,928
Maybe you should ask him yourself.

1002
01:04:27,489 --> 01:04:28,572
Charles.

1003
01:04:30,325 --> 01:04:31,410
Mr Feinberg.

1004
01:04:31,493 --> 01:04:34,370
I'm sorry, they left you in here
with the music running.</font>

1005
01:04:35,622 --> 01:04:37,664
-Soothes the soul.
-Yeah.

1006
01:04:38,458 --> 01:04:41,835
Yeah, this was the Lincoln Center cast
if I'm not mistaken.

1007
01:04:42,128 --> 01:04:45,047
Bartoli was other-worldly.

1008
01:04:45,635 --> 01:04:47,509
Wow! You're an opera fan.

1009
01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:48,927
I was on the board that year.

1010
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:51,305
My wife, Catherine, she was…

1011
01:04:51,388 --> 01:04:54,391
She sang soprano
in an amateur touring choir

1012
01:04:54,474 --> 01:04:56,601
<font color="

1013
01:04:56,684 --> 01:04:59,144
Well, she must have had a lovely voice.

1014
01:05:01,324 --> 01:05:02,623
Yeah.

1015
01:05:04,692 --> 01:05:06,902
Would that help her fit into your formula?

1016
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:10,574
Do you read my website?

1017
01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:14,369
I will confess I don't
because I'm not a computer guy.

1018
01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:17,121
My staff handles all that and…

1019
01:05:17,831 --> 01:05:20,332
<font color="

1020
01:05:20,491 --> 01:05:21,614
and as I understand it,

1021
01:05:21,697 --> 01:05:24,245
you've taken on
somewhat of a leadership role

1022
01:05:24,337 --> 01:05:27,714
amongst the people that we serve.

1023
01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:30,426
Nice, good, good.

1024
01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:33,263
Why don't we talk?

1025
01:05:33,346 --> 01:05:35,097
That's why I'm here.

1026
01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:39,394
Tell me what you want.

1027
01:05:40,186 --> 01:05:44,649
<font color="
We could…

1028
01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:46,650
you know, raise the baselines.

1029
01:05:47,694 --> 01:05:49,695
So, you think this is about the money?

1030
01:05:51,156 --> 01:05:52,114
Of course, yeah.

1031
01:05:52,407 --> 01:05:53,533
That it's greed?

1032
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:57,204
No, no. Not greed.

1033
01:05:57,295 --> 01:05:59,581
Money, yes. Greed, no.

1034
01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:02,376
Money, puts food on peoples' tables

1035
01:06:02,459 --> 01:06:04,252
<font color="

1036
01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:06,797
There's nothing dirty in it,
the meaning about it.

1037
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,842
But, let's not pretend
like it doesn't matter.

1038
01:06:10,925 --> 01:06:13,177
It does, it helps people move on.

1039
01:06:14,846 --> 01:06:15,888
Who?

1040
01:06:18,171 --> 01:06:20,437
-What do you mean "who"?
-Do you know any of our names?

1041
01:06:21,102 --> 01:06:23,063
Have you met any of us yourself?

1042
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:25,438
<font color="

1043
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:29,234
And what were they worth?

1044
01:06:30,701 --> 01:06:35,032
Well now, you're talking
about numbers and you're pretending…

1045
01:06:35,116 --> 01:06:36,116
Throw it out.

1046
01:06:36,534 --> 01:06:38,787
Throw what out?

1047
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:39,948
Throw out your formula.

1048
01:06:40,034 --> 01:06:41,039
I can't.

1049
01:06:41,122 --> 01:06:43,834
I can't. We need to have
something rational.

1050
01:06:43,917 --> 01:06:46,420
<font color="

1051
01:06:46,503 --> 01:06:50,128
But, my wife is not a statistic.

1052
01:06:50,236 --> 01:06:51,666
No, certainly not, but,

1053
01:06:51,908 --> 01:06:53,927
we do have to go by a set of rules.

1054
01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:55,095
OK.

1055
01:06:55,178 --> 01:06:57,139
Will your rules help Graham Morris?

1056
01:06:57,931 --> 01:06:58,890
Graham Morris.

1057
01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:01,765
His partner died
two weeks before their civil ceremony.

1058
01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:04,479
<font color="
his full claim to his parents

1059
01:07:04,562 --> 01:07:06,106
who condemned his lifestyle.

1060
01:07:06,189 --> 01:07:08,316
-I recall it.
-They were estranged,

1061
01:07:08,399 --> 01:07:11,653
completely estranged, Mr Feinberg.
Is that fair?

1062
01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:13,405
But we're just the administrators
on that…

1063
01:07:13,503 --> 01:07:15,586
All right, let's go
to the section of your rules

1064
01:07:15,609 --> 01:07:19,286
that limits injuries
to only those that occurred right away.</font>

1065
01:07:19,369 --> 01:07:21,634
Because we have clean-up workers
who come into our meetings

1066
01:07:21,734 --> 01:07:22,956
and they have polyps from asbestos.

1067
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,040
-I think you think that…
-They were on that site for weeks.

1068
01:07:25,124 --> 01:07:27,085
For weeks, breathing in that crap.

1069
01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:30,338
But, according to your rules,
unless they got to that site

1070
01:07:30,421 --> 01:07:32,299
<font color="

1071
01:07:32,382 --> 01:07:35,093
That's because
we have to draw the line somewhere.

1072
01:07:35,176 --> 01:07:40,013
If we award every worker
who was injured on that site, I mean,

1073
01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:42,809
where does it end, you understand?

1074
01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:44,769
I don't know, you tell me.

1075
01:07:44,852 --> 01:07:46,062
That's up to you.

1076
01:07:47,397 --> 01:07:51,026
The law gives you broad discretion
as special master, does it not?</font>

1077
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:52,527
-Yes. It does.
-OK.

1078
01:07:52,610 --> 01:07:55,614
And responsibilities.
Responsibilities to the tax payers,

1079
01:07:55,697 --> 01:07:57,115
to objectivity,

1080
01:07:57,198 --> 01:07:59,910
I can't bend the rules for every case

1081
01:07:59,993 --> 01:08:01,578
that doesn't fit the mold.

1082
01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:02,828
Why not?

1083
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:04,788
Congress did.

1084
01:08:06,291 --> 01:08:07,583
You know they did.

1085
01:08:08,209 --> 01:08:11,755
<font color="
two airlines out of business

1086
01:08:11,838 --> 01:08:15,091
Congress re-wrote that law like <i>that</i>

1087
01:08:15,174 --> 01:08:16,551
in a day.

1088
01:08:16,634 --> 01:08:17,928
Why?

1089
01:08:18,011 --> 01:08:21,056
Because the big corporations
asked them to.

1090
01:08:21,139 --> 01:08:25,936
But when 7000 citizens come to you
and they ask you for respect,

1091
01:08:26,019 --> 01:08:28,812
and they ask you not to be treated
like some numbers on a spreadsheet</font>

1092
01:08:28,904 --> 01:08:31,607
you act like that law
came down from messiah now?

1093
01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:34,945
Please, Mr Feinberg, don't, don't.

1094
01:08:35,028 --> 01:08:37,321
Don't tell me you can't give us
what we want

1095
01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:40,492
just tell us
that we are not the top priority.

1096
01:08:40,575 --> 01:08:41,825
Admit that

1097
01:08:42,493 --> 01:08:43,744
to yourself.

1098
01:09:01,638 --> 01:09:03,889
-Hello?
-Is this Kenneth Feinberg?

1099
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:05,209
<font color="

1100
01:09:05,928 --> 01:09:06,767
Goddamnit.

1101
01:09:06,850 --> 01:09:07,644
Hello.

1102
01:09:07,727 --> 01:09:09,521
<i>Hi, is this Kenneth Feinberg?</i>

1103
01:09:09,604 --> 01:09:10,939
Yes, who's this?

1104
01:09:11,022 --> 01:09:13,984
<i>Martin Cuthbert, sir. We haven't met.</i>

1105
01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:16,360
<i>I represent a claimant to your fund.</i>

1106
01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:18,821
Uh, this is a private line,

1107
01:09:18,904 --> 01:09:20,782
<font color="

1108
01:09:20,865 --> 01:09:23,702
<i>Right, the office, yes.
I spoke to someone at the office</i>

1109
01:09:23,785 --> 01:09:26,327
<i>who said you took the meeting
on this case yourself.</i>

1110
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:31,376
<i>It's a young woman, by the name
of Karen Donato, widow of Nicholas.</i>

1111
01:09:31,459 --> 01:09:33,044
Yes, we spoke.

1112
01:09:33,127 --> 01:09:35,297
<i>He was fireman with three sons</i>

1113
01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:39,383
<font color="

1114
01:09:39,466 --> 01:09:41,218
<i>-Look…</i>
-What's this about?

1115
01:09:41,301 --> 01:09:43,471
<i>Well, it's an unusual scenario, you see.</i>

1116
01:09:43,554 --> 01:09:46,516
<i>Look, I don't mean to cause you
any trouble, Mr Feinberg.</i>

1117
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:47,726
Ken, Ken,

1118
01:09:47,809 --> 01:09:50,227
go ahead, I'm used to it.
<i>-All right, well, Ken</i>

1119
01:09:50,310 --> 01:09:54,147
<i>you see, my client,
Melanie Veil was Mr Donato's mistress.</i></font>

1120
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:59,029
I'm not so…
I'm not sure I heard correctly.

1121
01:09:59,112 --> 01:10:01,740
<i>You heard correctly,
Melanie Veil and Nick Donato</i>

1122
01:10:01,823 --> 01:10:06,119
<i>have two daughters on their own
ages one, three, at the time of the attack.</i>

1123
01:10:06,202 --> 01:10:08,622
<i>I have DNA results to prove fraternity.</i>

1124
01:10:08,705 --> 01:10:11,164
<i>And my secretary can fax them
over to your office.</i>

1125
01:10:13,084 --> 01:10:14,334
<font color="

1126
01:10:14,796 --> 01:10:15,942
Yes.

1127
01:10:17,755 --> 01:10:21,174
All right, I'm looking forward to
going over the papers.

1128
01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:23,928
<i>Like I said,
I'm not trying to make trouble here</i>

1129
01:10:24,011 --> 01:10:27,432
<i>I just want you to know that
when you cut that cheque for Mr Donato's wife</i>

1130
01:10:27,515 --> 01:10:30,642
<i>it needs to go to five children
instead of three.</i>

1131
01:10:32,186 --> 01:10:34,646
<font color="

1132
01:11:02,284 --> 01:11:03,425
Hey, mister.

1133
01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:12,102
So your office said that you had
some more question about Nick.

1134
01:11:12,185 --> 01:11:16,609
Yeah. Really, it's more
just of a record keeping thing.

1135
01:11:16,610 --> 01:11:18,524
Cause I already told you
that we don't want the money.

1136
01:11:18,531 --> 01:11:20,192
Of course, yeah.

1137
01:11:21,194 --> 01:11:24,030
<font color="

1138
01:11:24,113 --> 01:11:25,071
No.

1139
01:11:25,782 --> 01:11:28,451
OK, this is just for show.

1140
01:11:28,534 --> 01:11:30,453
The real one was at City Hall

1141
01:11:30,536 --> 01:11:33,580
before I was, you know,
as big as a circus tent.

1142
01:11:35,066 --> 01:11:39,036
You know, I told them that
I didn't need anything of grand and fancy

1143
01:11:39,086 --> 01:11:41,630
just to prove that he love me, but, uh

1144
01:11:42,117 --> 01:11:45,176
<font color="
for a whole year.

1145
01:11:45,266 --> 01:11:49,269
He wouldn't take a nickle
from my family or anybody.

1146
01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:52,057
Just so we could have
that picture on the wall.

1147
01:11:53,434 --> 01:11:54,518
He was like that.

1148
01:11:56,771 --> 01:11:57,606
And that,

1149
01:11:57,755 --> 01:12:00,859
I'm assuming Nicky Jr. there?

1150
01:12:02,068 --> 01:12:03,360
Oh, no…

1151
01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:08,241
That was a girl. We lost her.
She was a preemie.</font>

1152
01:12:08,324 --> 01:12:10,785
-Oh, I'm sorry.
-That's OK.

1153
01:12:10,868 --> 01:12:12,035
Eden.

1154
01:12:13,644 --> 01:12:17,480
Most dads don't want little girls
but Nicky always did.

1155
01:12:19,377 --> 01:12:20,295
Hey.

1156
01:12:21,128 --> 01:12:24,132
You didn't need to come.
Sorry, excuse me.

1157
01:12:24,215 --> 01:12:25,425
You didn't have to come.

1158
01:12:25,508 --> 01:12:27,750
-I got the cereal for the kids.
-Well, thank you.

1159
01:12:28,023 --> 01:12:29,563
Hey, hey!

1160
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,931
<font color="
-Sure.

1161
01:12:32,723 --> 01:12:33,723
Hi, Frank.

1162
01:12:34,684 --> 01:12:36,101
I just wanted to…

1163
01:12:37,345 --> 01:12:38,774
discuss Nick's claim.

1164
01:12:40,064 --> 01:12:41,857
I already told you
we're not making one.

1165
01:12:42,441 --> 01:12:44,276
Yeah. I know, of course. But I just…

1166
01:12:44,577 --> 01:12:47,455
You know, just in case Karen
decides to…

1167
01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:49,489
Let me
kind of show you something.

1168
01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:54,494
<font color="

1169
01:12:57,122 --> 01:13:00,710
That's just uh…
that's a presumptive calculation.

1170
01:13:00,793 --> 01:13:03,461
-That means it's…
-I know what it means. To presume.

1171
01:13:09,302 --> 01:13:11,803
You and Nick were very close.

1172
01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:15,521
Yeah.

1173
01:13:16,684 --> 01:13:18,101
He's my kid brother.

1174
01:13:20,244 --> 01:13:23,163
So, I have to assume you would know

1175
01:13:23,774 --> 01:13:26,776
<font color="

1176
01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:30,780
wouldn't necessarily want Karen to know.

1177
01:13:34,952 --> 01:13:36,328
My brother was a family man.

1178
01:13:36,954 --> 01:13:38,830
Of course, of course, yeah.

1179
01:13:42,993 --> 01:13:44,406
We're not signing nothing.

1180
01:13:44,962 --> 01:13:48,675
Frank, this is money for those boys,
it's tax free.

1181
01:13:48,757 --> 01:13:49,856
It's not everyday
that the government…

1182
01:13:49,935 --> 01:13:51,928
<font color="

1183
01:13:52,011 --> 01:13:53,470
holding the purse strings.

1184
01:13:54,055 --> 01:13:56,234
Now you think you could come here
and make it right

1185
01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:57,849
by throwing some money on his grave?

1186
01:14:02,396 --> 01:14:03,730
Get out of his house.

1187
01:14:06,525 --> 01:14:07,442
All right.

1188
01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:34,135
So, this is Tom Junior.

1189
01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:36,554
Don't you think he looks older?

1190
01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:41,351
<font color="
He was a civilian contractor.

1191
01:14:41,727 --> 01:14:44,689
His brother, Dave,
rejoined to fight for him.

1192
01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:46,065
That's very brave.

1193
01:14:46,148 --> 01:14:48,149
They were only 11 months apart.

1194
01:14:48,693 --> 01:14:51,069
Like two peas in a pod growing up.

1195
01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:55,199
I had a chance to meet Tom's partner,
Graham Morris.

1196
01:14:55,282 --> 01:14:56,326
The gold digger.

1197
01:14:56,409 --> 01:14:57,612
<font color="

1198
01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:03,115
What my husband means to say is
that man is a liar.

1199
01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:07,378
He and Tom were living together,
he said that they had plans to…

1200
01:15:07,461 --> 01:15:09,212
They were room-mates.

1201
01:15:10,256 --> 01:15:13,008
Tom had girlfriends, he was…

1202
01:15:13,676 --> 01:15:15,345
-Mrs?
-Biros.

1203
01:15:15,428 --> 01:15:18,056
Mrs Biros, this boy

1204
01:15:18,146 --> 01:15:22,192
had a long history of being infatuated
with our son.</font>

1205
01:15:22,275 --> 01:15:25,152
He tried to get his hooks in him
but Tom didn't…

1206
01:15:27,506 --> 01:15:29,232
We knew our son.

1207
01:15:29,942 --> 01:15:34,195
These guys
just crawl out of the wood-work.

1208
01:15:35,448 --> 01:15:37,615
I'm sure your office sees a lot of those.

1209
01:15:39,952 --> 01:15:41,745
I didn't get that sense from him.

1210
01:15:43,497 --> 01:15:45,165
Isn't that always the way?

1211
01:15:56,635 --> 01:15:59,347
Rumor has it
that your numbers are a little stagnant.</font>

1212
01:15:59,430 --> 01:16:00,723
There's still plenty of time.

1213
01:16:00,805 --> 01:16:03,809
Well, you had plenty of time
and you signed what, 900?

1214
01:16:03,893 --> 01:16:05,894
That's not enough, Ken.

1215
01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:13,194
You know, I um… I sat down
with your friend, Charles Wolf.

1216
01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:15,447
Wolf, well, good luck with him.

1217
01:16:15,780 --> 01:16:17,699
He's fighting for the left behind,
by the way.

1218
01:16:17,782 --> 01:16:20,026
<font color="
the rich get richer.

1219
01:16:20,443 --> 01:16:24,155
See, it's that kinda accusation
has people calling you insensitive.

1220
01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:25,246
Doesn't matter.

1221
01:16:27,291 --> 01:16:29,919
Anyway, I emphasized our common ground.

1222
01:16:30,009 --> 01:16:32,714
A rising tide leaps all boats.

1223
01:16:32,804 --> 01:16:35,890
I think I'm mixing the metaphor there,
but the point is

1224
01:16:35,966 --> 01:16:37,802
<font color="

1225
01:16:37,893 --> 01:16:40,771
we have enough participants
to certify a sue.

1226
01:16:40,846 --> 01:16:42,347
Hold on here.

1227
01:16:43,682 --> 01:16:45,935
Are you threatening a class action?

1228
01:16:46,018 --> 01:16:48,479
No, I'm offering to help you out here.

1229
01:16:48,562 --> 01:16:50,940
Bullshit, you can afford to roll a dice

1230
01:16:51,023 --> 01:16:53,443
to win or lose a case
over the course of 15 years.

1231
01:16:53,526 --> 01:16:55,319
<font color="

1232
01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:58,114
With all due respect,
you haven't met these people.

1233
01:16:58,197 --> 01:17:00,199
Your staff has and…

1234
01:17:00,282 --> 01:17:03,077
I got news for ya,
they hate your guts.

1235
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,994
Well, maybe they do, maybe they don't.

1236
01:17:06,255 --> 01:17:08,424
What I'm offering them is a choice.

1237
01:17:08,499 --> 01:17:11,502
And I'm here as a friend
to give you the same.

1238
01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:14,630
<font color="

1239
01:17:14,713 --> 01:17:16,924
and I'll deliver everybody to your fund.

1240
01:17:17,007 --> 01:17:18,675
Wrapped in a bow.

1241
01:17:21,887 --> 01:17:23,555
Let's win this together, Ken.

1242
01:17:25,224 --> 01:17:27,267
This isn't the latest one, or is it, Ken?

1243
01:17:27,977 --> 01:17:29,269
Fifteen percent?

1244
01:17:29,917 --> 01:17:33,066
John, we still have four months
until the statutory deadline

1245
01:17:33,149 --> 01:17:34,776
<font color="

1246
01:17:34,859 --> 01:17:37,443
Oh I know, confident.

1247
01:17:39,238 --> 01:17:40,947
Committees are getting nervous, Ken.

1248
01:17:42,992 --> 01:17:46,536
John, I didn't know you were
having a meeting with the airline lobby.

1249
01:17:46,954 --> 01:17:48,496
I'm just here to listen.

1250
01:17:49,165 --> 01:17:51,417
We're told Lee Quinn
is planning to bring suit.

1251
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:53,376
Unless you give more money
at the top.

1252
01:17:53,919 --> 01:17:56,339
<font color="

1253
01:17:56,422 --> 01:17:58,506
You really want to change the law
to help people?

1254
01:18:00,073 --> 01:18:04,662
There are plenty of emergency workers
and firemen, they inhaled toxic chemicals,

1255
01:18:04,722 --> 01:18:06,974
didn't get sick till months later.

1256
01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:08,392
This law doesn't cover them.

1257
01:18:08,475 --> 01:18:11,562
No, that would be unproductive.

1258
01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:13,588
If you change rules now
this bill gets kicked back</font>

1259
01:18:13,688 --> 01:18:15,553
to the Congress for a comment period.

1260
01:18:15,904 --> 01:18:18,115
Have you ever experienced
a comment period, Ken?

1261
01:18:18,185 --> 01:18:20,029
-No.
-They'd be on their soapboxes

1262
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,498
ten months after the whole statues
could put the

1263
01:18:22,573 --> 01:18:25,243
whole economies in the toilet,
nobody gets anything

1264
01:18:25,326 --> 01:18:27,161
including re-elected, so…

1265
01:18:27,786 --> 01:18:28,788
<font color="

1266
01:18:29,663 --> 01:18:30,580
No?

1267
01:18:30,831 --> 01:18:33,000
Quinn only cares
about the people at the top

1268
01:18:33,083 --> 01:18:35,294
cause that's where he gets his paycheck.

1269
01:18:35,377 --> 01:18:36,796
His lawsuit is a problem for us.

1270
01:18:36,879 --> 01:18:39,382
Look, I work for the tax-payers.

1271
01:18:39,465 --> 01:18:40,967
We pay our share of the taxes too.

1272
01:18:41,050 --> 01:18:43,636
Yeah, but you don't have to
look the victim in the eye.

1273
01:18:43,781 --> 01:18:46,430
<font color="
discretionary power

1274
01:18:46,513 --> 01:18:48,141
even within your formula.

1275
01:18:48,224 --> 01:18:51,434
All we're asking is you use it here,
to make Quinn happy, so he goes away.

1276
01:18:54,021 --> 01:18:56,773
Like I said, Ken, neutral party.

1277
01:18:57,308 --> 01:19:00,727
You have the DOJ support
whatever you decide.

1278
01:19:07,743 --> 01:19:09,786
9/11 TRIBUTE

1279
01:19:17,127 --> 01:19:21,465
<i>♪ I lost my mom,
I lost an earring ♪</i></font>

1280
01:19:21,548 --> 01:19:23,843
<i>♪ I lost my father ♪</i>

1281
01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:28,496
<i>♪ I lost my voice,
I lost my ticket ♪</i>

1282
01:19:28,582 --> 01:19:32,852
<i>♪ I lost the case,
I lost the map ♪</i>

1283
01:19:32,935 --> 01:19:35,062
<i>♪ I lost my wits ♪</i>

1284
01:19:35,145 --> 01:19:39,233
<i>♪ I lost my way,
I lost my time ♪</i>

1285
01:19:41,534 --> 01:19:45,885
<i>♪ I lost my sock,
I lost my umbrella ♪</i>

1286
01:19:46,712 --> 01:19:50,763
<i>♪ I lost the store,
I lost the coat ♪</i></font>

1287
01:19:50,888 --> 01:19:52,696
<i>♪ I lost my teeth ♪</i>

1288
01:19:52,768 --> 01:19:56,605
<i>♪ I lost my name,
I lost my dog ♪</i>

1289
01:19:56,815 --> 01:20:00,890
<i>♪ I lost an erring,
I lost my father ♪</i>

1290
01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:04,845
<i>♪ I lost my voice,
I lost my ticket ♪</i>

1291
01:20:05,081 --> 01:20:09,067
<i>♪ I lost the case,
I lost the map ♪</i>

1292
01:20:09,136 --> 01:20:11,183
<i>♪ I lost my grace ♪</i>

1293
01:20:11,295 --> 01:20:14,840
<i>♪ I lost my way,
I lost my tongue ♪</i></font>

1294
01:20:18,455 --> 01:20:22,462
<i>♪ I lost my heart,
I lost the faith ♪</i>

1295
01:20:22,581 --> 01:20:24,225
<i>♪ I lost the weight ♪</i>

1296
01:20:25,598 --> 01:20:29,730
<i>♪ I lost my way,
I lost my temper ♪</i>

1297
01:20:29,831 --> 01:20:33,784
<i>♪ I lost the pride,
I lost my pulse ♪</i>

1298
01:20:33,856 --> 01:20:35,408
<i>♪ I lost the time ♪</i>

1299
01:20:35,873 --> 01:20:39,510
<i>♪ I lost my name,
I lost my hope ♪</i>

1300
01:20:45,799 --> 01:20:49,260
Mr Feinberg?
I thought I might see you here.</font>

1301
01:20:50,971 --> 01:20:52,889
-Hello, Mr. Wolf.
-Hi.

1302
01:20:54,224 --> 01:20:57,144
I think Catherine
would have appreciated this modern stuff

1303
01:20:57,211 --> 01:21:00,922
but I can't understand
music that you have to…

1304
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,944
you know, struggle to listen to.

1305
01:21:05,027 --> 01:21:06,153
-You know?
-I do.

1306
01:21:06,236 --> 01:21:08,654
Well, Puccini it ain't.

1307
01:21:09,365 --> 01:21:10,698
We can agree on that.

1308
01:21:12,117 --> 01:21:14,494
<font color="
on the seat of honor.

1309
01:21:19,249 --> 01:21:20,960
-That bad, huh?
-Yeah.

1310
01:21:21,043 --> 01:21:22,001
Yeah.

1311
01:21:22,961 --> 01:21:24,462
You know, um…

1312
01:21:26,173 --> 01:21:28,009
the reason I even wanted to do this

1313
01:21:28,092 --> 01:21:30,261
was I really believed
I should serve my country

1314
01:21:30,344 --> 01:21:32,638
in its time of need, and I did.

1315
01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:34,515
Maybe a part of that's ego,

1316
01:21:34,598 --> 01:21:37,350
<font color="

1317
01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:43,024
I've got, what? 11000 families, on board

1318
01:21:43,107 --> 01:21:45,900
and 6000 more to go.

1319
01:21:46,527 --> 01:21:48,361
Uh huh? Yeah, well…

1320
01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:52,907
I just want you to know that
I know the fund's not perfect.

1321
01:21:54,993 --> 01:21:59,038
There are people who just don't fit
within the rules that we wrote.

1322
01:22:01,625 --> 01:22:02,792
I know that.

1323
01:22:06,255 --> 01:22:08,131
<font color="

1324
01:22:09,466 --> 01:22:10,842
what to do.

1325
01:22:13,501 --> 01:22:15,877
Remember that you're not the bridge.

1326
01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:17,974
OK.

1327
01:22:19,143 --> 01:22:20,603
Sounds like a fortune cookie.

1328
01:22:20,686 --> 01:22:22,104
No.

1329
01:22:22,187 --> 01:22:25,399
Catherine and I, this town
that we lived in years ago,

1330
01:22:25,474 --> 01:22:27,143
in upstate New York,

1331
01:22:27,234 --> 01:22:29,111
-Ithaca, you know?
-Uh-hmm.

1332
01:22:29,194 --> 01:22:31,320
<font color="

1333
01:22:32,171 --> 01:22:35,616
Depression era, beautiful,
to me, beautiful.

1334
01:22:35,993 --> 01:22:38,202
And the developers wanted
to knock it down.

1335
01:22:38,868 --> 01:22:40,663
Cause they were there
putting up the interstate.

1336
01:22:41,165 --> 01:22:43,292
So, I got on the city council

1337
01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:46,878
and I spent two years
and all of our savings

1338
01:22:47,838 --> 01:22:50,214
fighting for that hunk of concrete.

1339
01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:53,551
<font color="

1340
01:22:55,345 --> 01:22:57,681
I sat around the house
moping for a couple of weeks,

1341
01:22:57,764 --> 01:22:59,724
feeling sorry for myself and…

1342
01:23:00,350 --> 01:23:01,726
then Catherine

1343
01:23:03,020 --> 01:23:05,146
you know, she looked at me one day

1344
01:23:06,732 --> 01:23:08,065
she told me that

1345
01:23:09,443 --> 01:23:10,943
you're not the bridge.

1346
01:23:12,029 --> 01:23:14,780
It is rubble, I'm not.

1347
01:23:15,824 --> 01:23:17,325
<font color="

1348
01:23:19,912 --> 01:23:22,331
Fighting a new lost cause but…

1349
01:23:22,414 --> 01:23:23,666
Which is me, I suppose.

1350
01:23:23,749 --> 01:23:26,127
No, no, no...

1351
01:23:26,210 --> 01:23:28,963
See, I have nothing against you,
Mr Feinberg.

1352
01:23:29,046 --> 01:23:30,827
-Look, I wanna make that clear.
-OK, OK.

1353
01:23:30,874 --> 01:23:32,173
I just, look…

1354
01:23:33,175 --> 01:23:35,010
I may have screwed
this whole thing up

1355
01:23:35,093 --> 01:23:38,389
<font color="
if I try to fix it now,

1356
01:23:38,488 --> 01:23:41,533
if I even go on record saying
this thing even needs fixing

1357
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,229
trust me, courts are gonna throw it
back to Congress and they'll let it die.

1358
01:23:45,312 --> 01:23:48,523
Nothing for anyone, just dead.

1359
01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:51,610
Then it deserves to be.

1360
01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:53,612
Why? Because it's not perfect?

1361
01:23:53,695 --> 01:23:55,614
No no.

1362
01:23:55,697 --> 01:23:58,200
<font color="

1363
01:23:58,283 --> 01:24:00,453
But I can't change that.

1364
01:24:00,536 --> 01:24:02,788
Well, something has to change.

1365
01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:03,913
Find it.

1366
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:24,600
COMMITTED: 18%
GOAL: 80%

1367
01:24:50,265 --> 01:24:52,291
REGULAR CHECKING AND SAVINGS ACCOUNT

1368
01:25:02,453 --> 01:25:06,174
UNCOMMITTED NY S
UNCOMMITTED BY M

1369
01:25:08,854 --> 01:25:12,607
UNCOMMITTED NY P

1370
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:27,371
<font color="

1371
01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:29,999
Did you sleep here?

1372
01:25:30,834 --> 01:25:31,818
I guess so.

1373
01:25:33,045 --> 01:25:37,841
I was going through these cases,
the uncommitted ones.

1374
01:25:37,931 --> 01:25:41,435
What's going on with that
Silver Union suit you're working on?

1375
01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:43,472
That's one of dozens.

1376
01:25:43,546 --> 01:25:45,757
It won't be an issue
for New York residents

1377
01:25:45,849 --> 01:25:48,477
<font color="
the spousal benefits

1378
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,978
for gay people whose partners died.

1379
01:25:51,146 --> 01:25:53,397
Virginia Legislature feels differently.

1380
01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:57,528
Then we gotta call the governor, right?

1381
01:25:57,611 --> 01:25:58,946
Look, obviously

1382
01:25:59,029 --> 01:26:01,198
we can't help everyone
with special interests.

1383
01:26:01,272 --> 01:26:04,442
We still have to set limits,
but it's a start.

1384
01:26:04,534 --> 01:26:06,912
<font color="

1385
01:26:06,995 --> 01:26:09,248
Some of these poor people,
these first responders

1386
01:26:09,284 --> 01:26:11,850
this is trickier, they didn't even know
they were sick for months.

1387
01:26:11,875 --> 01:26:12,857
-Look at these… This is…
-Ken.

1388
01:26:12,957 --> 01:26:14,712
I know,
we're gonna have to take the heat on it.

1389
01:26:14,795 --> 01:26:17,965
That's the way it is.
We're gonna have to set the formula aside.

1390
01:26:18,048 --> 01:26:19,883
<font color="
-I know, I know.

1391
01:26:20,123 --> 01:26:22,701
I know, we're in the weeds here.

1392
01:26:23,082 --> 01:26:24,067
That's where we should be.

1393
01:26:24,287 --> 01:26:26,307
If we do this,
we have to go the whole way.

1394
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:27,544
Can't go half way.

1395
01:26:27,708 --> 01:26:30,144
We have to consider
every claimant individually.

1396
01:26:30,227 --> 01:26:33,352
If they can't come down here to see us,
we're gonna have to go and see them.

1397
01:26:33,437 --> 01:26:35,024
<font color="
Good.

1398
01:26:35,107 --> 01:26:36,497
What? You don't like it?

1399
01:26:38,162 --> 01:26:39,341
We love it.

1400
01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:41,278
Oh… Good.

1401
01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:44,436
Set some meetings,
I'm gonna get coffee.

1402
01:26:51,373 --> 01:26:56,587
Me and a few of the other stronger guys,
we pried open the doors so that

1403
01:26:56,670 --> 01:26:59,046
everyone could get away.

1404
01:27:00,716 --> 01:27:02,550
But that's, that's when it happened.

1405
01:27:04,136 --> 01:27:07,513
<font color="
ignited all the fuel and…

1406
01:27:14,563 --> 01:27:15,563
That was it.

1407
01:27:16,481 --> 01:27:20,074
A guy like me thinks he's tough. Think he
can handle anything that's thrown at him.

1408
01:27:21,634 --> 01:27:24,323
That's until
you look in the eyes of the…

1409
01:27:24,406 --> 01:27:27,158
five year old, and a six year old
and you tell them that…

1410
01:27:29,745 --> 01:27:31,162
that you've been lying to them.

1411
01:27:31,788 --> 01:27:34,415
<font color="

1412
01:27:35,625 --> 01:27:40,087
And asked me if he was wearing
his wedding ring and I said, "no, why?"

1413
01:27:42,716 --> 01:27:44,008
Do you need something?

1414
01:27:44,593 --> 01:27:49,765
Oh, and I thought I'd join you in…
Just perhaps listen.

1415
01:27:49,848 --> 01:27:51,182
Sandra, is that OK?

1416
01:27:57,181 --> 01:27:59,515
Go on. Whenever you're ready.

1417
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:07,072
I used to ask each time he flew over school
or work, I would ask for his itinerary.</font>

1418
01:28:09,242 --> 01:28:11,494
Just so I could breath a little easier.

1419
01:28:12,871 --> 01:28:14,580
Knowing he landed…

1420
01:28:17,292 --> 01:28:18,834
back on solid ground.

1421
01:28:28,011 --> 01:28:30,179
It takes a parent to know that feeling.

1422
01:28:32,849 --> 01:28:34,475
And I'll never have it again.

1423
01:28:40,607 --> 01:28:42,191
It's a fishing fly.

1424
01:28:43,568 --> 01:28:44,944
He made them.

1425
01:28:46,029 --> 01:28:48,073
We made them together.

1426
01:28:48,156 --> 01:28:51,116
<font color="

1427
01:28:52,869 --> 01:28:54,036
Well, thank you.

1428
01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:55,996
Thank you.

1429
01:28:56,665 --> 01:28:58,584
We were told

1430
01:28:58,667 --> 01:29:03,213
because he suffered about
90 percent burns over his body

1431
01:29:03,296 --> 01:29:09,301
he might not appear to be the same person
we know him to be.

1432
01:29:10,679 --> 01:29:14,641
And then, we got a call
from the medical examiner's office

1433
01:29:14,724 --> 01:29:17,059
<font color="

1434
01:29:18,603 --> 01:29:21,188
And we had to make another identification.

1435
01:29:22,274 --> 01:29:24,525
It turned out we spent four days

1436
01:29:25,527 --> 01:29:27,570
at the bedside of a stranger.

1437
01:29:30,282 --> 01:29:31,615
While Alex…

1438
01:29:35,620 --> 01:29:37,254
while he died.

1439
01:29:38,999 --> 01:29:44,129
<i>You know, my wife and I, we were thinking,
gosh, those poor people.</i>

1440
01:29:44,212 --> 01:29:47,758
<font color="
it's happening to someone else.</i>

1441
01:29:47,841 --> 01:29:51,220
<i>And then, within a few hours
they of course confirm</i>

1442
01:29:51,303 --> 01:29:53,931
<i>that she was there for a meeting.</i>

1443
01:29:54,014 --> 01:29:57,726
<i>We realized
we were one of those people.</i>

1444
01:29:57,809 --> 01:29:59,643
<i>I mean, it was staggering.</i>

1445
01:30:00,353 --> 01:30:02,439
<i>I'm sorry.</i>

1446
01:30:02,522 --> 01:30:04,942
<font color="

1447
01:30:05,025 --> 01:30:07,402
<i>We actually started
going down the stairs early…</i>

1448
01:30:07,485 --> 01:30:08,779
<i>But you can call me Gene.</i>

1449
01:30:08,862 --> 01:30:11,365
<i>Gene, tell me a little about yourself.</i>

1450
01:30:11,448 --> 01:30:13,782
<i>When did you move way from Iowa?</i>

1451
01:30:14,492 --> 01:30:18,914
<i>1997. I got a job as analyst right away.</i>

1452
01:30:18,997 --> 01:30:21,750
<font color="

1453
01:30:21,833 --> 01:30:23,935
<i>It's completely up to you
but I think you should take</i>

1454
01:30:24,035 --> 01:30:25,177
<i>what's the government’s giving.</i>

1455
01:30:25,277 --> 01:30:28,655
<i>-I got bad anxiety.
-I don't know. I don't sleep much.</i>

1456
01:30:31,018 --> 01:30:32,678
<i>I had to move out of the city.</i>

1457
01:30:32,761 --> 01:30:34,596
<i>I'm there seeing the whole in the skyline.</i>

1458
01:30:34,679 --> 01:30:37,975
<font color="
to expedite this process.</i>

1459
01:30:38,058 --> 01:30:40,100
<i>-Well, Florida is nice.
-Yeah.</i>

1460
01:30:40,393 --> 01:30:43,938
"Seems as if
I don't feel anything

1461
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:45,856
but inside, I do.

1462
01:30:47,017 --> 01:30:51,016
Inside I want to burst
and just talk to everyone about

1463
01:30:51,157 --> 01:30:52,529
what I'm holding in.

1464
01:30:55,241 --> 01:31:00,037
I wanna say how much pain I have and
I wanna say all the pressure that I have.</font>

1465
01:31:02,457 --> 01:31:04,125
I have to get through myself,
emotionally

1466
01:31:05,627 --> 01:31:09,214
I have to help them
and be strong for them

1467
01:31:09,297 --> 01:31:11,423
but also still be strong for me."

1468
01:31:12,592 --> 01:31:14,009
My dad was good at that.

1469
01:31:14,427 --> 01:31:16,220
I have to be the man that he was.

1470
01:31:25,768 --> 01:31:28,110
DECEMBER 1, 2003
3 WEEKS TO DEADLINE

1471
01:31:30,747 --> 01:31:32,793
COMMITED 36 %
GOAL 80 %</font>

1472
01:31:33,488 --> 01:31:34,571
It's not enough.

1473
01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:39,494
So, we keep going,
right up to the deadline.

1474
01:31:39,577 --> 01:31:42,289
Maybe we get the word out wider?
Make a public statement.

1475
01:31:42,372 --> 01:31:44,791
Nah, if we announce this publicly

1476
01:31:44,874 --> 01:31:47,628
it starts to look like
that they're changing the policy,

1477
01:31:47,711 --> 01:31:49,753
then the law goes back to Congress.

1478
01:31:52,257 --> 01:31:54,051
FIX THE FUND

1479
01:31:54,134 --> 01:31:56,178
<font color="

1480
01:31:57,470 --> 01:31:59,513
So, you're meeting with people?

1481
01:31:59,900 --> 01:32:01,040
Yeah.

1482
01:32:01,725 --> 01:32:04,059
And I hear
you've been telling them that…

1483
01:32:05,478 --> 01:32:06,782
You're throwing out the formula.

1484
01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:10,400
Nope. The law gives me discretion
which someone reminded me,

1485
01:32:10,483 --> 01:32:11,859
so, I'm going to use it.

1486
01:32:12,318 --> 01:32:17,197
<font color="
I will do everything I can to help them.

1487
01:32:20,952 --> 01:32:22,411
Guaranteed by what?

1488
01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:23,664
Your word?

1489
01:32:23,747 --> 01:32:25,581
Oh, Charles, I mean…

1490
01:32:26,583 --> 01:32:27,624
What?

1491
01:32:27,917 --> 01:32:30,502
No, I'm sorry. Mr Feinberg,

1492
01:32:30,879 --> 01:32:34,132
you've been telling us for two years

1493
01:32:34,215 --> 01:32:37,803
that you're nothing
but a numbers cruncher for the government.</font>

1494
01:32:37,886 --> 01:32:40,262
And now you're asking us to trust you.

1495
01:32:40,472 --> 01:32:41,765
No, I'm asking you.

1496
01:32:42,515 --> 01:32:47,124
You already have their trust. And
you earned that. Help them trust me too.

1497
01:32:49,856 --> 01:32:51,525
Are you just trying to win?

1498
01:32:51,608 --> 01:32:53,901
No, I'm trying to make things right.

1499
01:33:03,078 --> 01:33:05,245
When's your deposition with Lee Quinn?

1500
01:33:06,456 --> 01:33:07,748
<font color="

1501
01:33:09,338 --> 01:33:11,585
He's gonna tell you
you wanted kids.

1502
01:33:13,630 --> 01:33:16,258
Forty year old married female

1503
01:33:16,341 --> 01:33:20,220
who is pregnant
or even she's just trying to get pregnant.

1504
01:33:20,303 --> 01:33:24,349
The damage settlement
shoots way up, way up. Skyward.

1505
01:33:24,432 --> 01:33:26,935
And Quinn's gonna coach you
through every step.

1506
01:33:27,018 --> 01:33:29,436
When to cry. When to quiver your lip.

1507
01:33:33,650 --> 01:33:34,943
<font color="

1508
01:33:35,026 --> 01:33:36,610
Cause we are the same guy.

1509
01:33:37,445 --> 01:33:38,695
And that's what I do.

1510
01:33:41,685 --> 01:33:44,239
DECEMBER 10, 2003
13 DAYS TO DEADLINE

1511
01:33:46,412 --> 01:33:49,414
OFFICES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

1512
01:34:03,596 --> 01:34:05,222
Ashcroft's stood you up?

1513
01:34:08,017 --> 01:34:09,643
He's under pressure of his own.

1514
01:34:12,730 --> 01:34:16,525
Do you think it's a message?
"Give Quinn what he wants"?

1515
01:34:17,402 --> 01:34:18,819
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1516
01:34:19,821 --> 01:34:23,073
There's still time. You always say
they'll come in at the deadline.

1517
01:34:23,741 --> 01:34:24,908
What if I'm wrong?

1518
01:34:27,328 --> 01:34:28,996
What if I'm wrong, Camille?

1519
01:34:34,544 --> 01:34:37,214
Sorry. You did everything you could.

1520
01:34:37,297 --> 01:34:39,214
Everyone did everything they could.

1521
01:34:40,884 --> 01:34:43,568
A call for you, Ken.
Lawyer from Queens.

1522
01:34:44,285 --> 01:34:46,504
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-Take a message, please.

1523
01:34:46,556 --> 01:34:49,476
He already left you three.
It's about the Donato case.

1524
01:34:49,559 --> 01:34:52,269
He says
if you don't tell the widow he will.

1525
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,940
And to tell you
that you have until tomorrow.

1526
01:34:59,831 --> 01:35:01,034
Ken?

1527
01:35:08,828 --> 01:35:10,204
Karen isn't home yet.

1528
01:35:12,207 --> 01:35:13,498
She told me you called.

1529
01:35:14,167 --> 01:35:15,792
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1530
01:35:16,294 --> 01:35:17,711
When will she be back?

1531
01:35:19,547 --> 01:35:22,799
Put away your checkbook.
We're joining the lawsuit.

1532
01:35:23,635 --> 01:35:26,595
Well, you'll do whatever you have to do.

1533
01:35:27,972 --> 01:35:30,308
Yeah, but you know better, right?

1534
01:35:30,391 --> 01:35:33,478
I would not presume or judge.

1535
01:35:33,561 --> 01:35:34,561
Bullshit.

1536
01:35:35,104 --> 01:35:37,898
You see her being loyal to a dead guy,
you can't imagine why.</font>

1537
01:35:38,816 --> 01:35:42,154
Frank, the signing deadline is Saturday.

1538
01:35:42,237 --> 01:35:45,030
After that you won't see me anymore.

1539
01:35:47,116 --> 01:35:48,951
It's the first thing you said
I'm glad to hear.

1540
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,497
I'm still gonna have to talk
to Karen first.

1541
01:35:54,082 --> 01:35:55,916
Like I said she's not home.

1542
01:35:56,626 --> 01:35:58,168
Tell me and I'll pass it along.

1543
01:35:59,337 --> 01:36:00,963
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1544
01:36:01,589 --> 01:36:03,257
In fact, I think you already know.

1545
01:36:05,218 --> 01:36:08,638
You don't have to protect him anymore.
Nick's gone.

1546
01:36:08,721 --> 01:36:11,723
You didn't know Nick. He was a good man.

1547
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,101
This is not about Nick.

1548
01:36:22,819 --> 01:36:24,319
He went back in for me

1549
01:36:24,779 --> 01:36:26,154
into that tower.

1550
01:36:26,823 --> 01:36:28,200
Did you know that?

1551
01:36:28,283 --> 01:36:29,116
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1552
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,705
For all I know, he heard the evac
orders on his radio and he said, "Fuck it,

1553
01:36:33,788 --> 01:36:35,415
my brother's in there."

1554
01:36:35,498 --> 01:36:38,001
He died trying to save me
and you think I should…

1555
01:36:38,084 --> 01:36:39,543
I should forget about that?

1556
01:36:41,212 --> 01:36:42,629
Don't you have a family?

1557
01:36:43,214 --> 01:36:46,009
If you die tomorrow
what's the worst they find out about you?

1558
01:36:46,092 --> 01:36:47,844
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1559
01:36:47,927 --> 01:36:49,054
I'm not a hero.

1560
01:36:49,137 --> 01:36:53,433
Yeah, well… Nick was.
He was a family man. He was a good man.

1561
01:36:53,574 --> 01:36:56,018
And that's why he'd want
his children taken care of.

1562
01:36:56,352 --> 01:36:57,519
All of them.

1563
01:36:57,895 --> 01:37:01,815
Frank, if I were you, honestly…

1564
01:37:02,817 --> 01:37:05,444
I don't know what I would do.
I can't imagine.

1565
01:37:05,987 --> 01:37:08,905
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1566
01:37:09,365 --> 01:37:11,700
But you're not the only one
who's left behind.

1567
01:37:12,076 --> 01:37:13,577
I know you know that.

1568
01:37:15,371 --> 01:37:18,708
That family wants the money
so they can just move on.

1569
01:37:18,791 --> 01:37:20,627
And I think they deserve it.

1570
01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,961
And I think Nick would think so too.

1571
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:28,592
That's why I'm…

1572
01:37:29,427 --> 01:37:31,846
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as equal beneficiaries.

1573
01:37:31,929 --> 01:37:35,599
I just thought Karen should know.
And I wanted to tell her myself.

1574
01:37:36,267 --> 01:37:38,560
So she didn't have to read
the public record.

1575
01:37:38,936 --> 01:37:40,063
What are their names?

1576
01:37:40,146 --> 01:37:41,938
-Karen, go back in the house.
-No.

1577
01:37:42,982 --> 01:37:44,107
I wanna know.

1578
01:37:48,029 --> 01:37:50,447
Jenna and Bell.

1579
01:38:01,084 --> 01:38:02,667
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1580
01:38:16,766 --> 01:38:17,849
You're happy?

1581
01:38:27,382 --> 01:38:30,856
DECEMBER 19, 2003
5 DAYS TO DEADLINE

1582
01:38:43,876 --> 01:38:46,378
COMMITED 51 %
GOAL 80 %

1583
01:38:53,219 --> 01:38:54,344
Mail's here.

1584
01:38:58,766 --> 01:39:00,518
Do y'all wanna sign for these together?

1585
01:39:00,601 --> 01:39:01,601
I'll sign.

1586
01:39:04,814 --> 01:39:07,232
What does it look like there?
How many do we got?

1587
01:39:11,028 --> 01:39:12,070
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1588
01:39:12,572 --> 01:39:13,905
Thirty. Maybe forty.

1589
01:39:14,866 --> 01:39:15,740
Me too.

1590
01:39:37,388 --> 01:39:38,388
I'm sorry.

1591
01:39:41,225 --> 01:39:42,809
You did the best you could.

1592
01:39:44,854 --> 01:39:45,812
Did I?

1593
01:39:47,565 --> 01:39:48,690
I'm still sorry.

1594
01:40:47,375 --> 01:40:48,750
You're working too hard, Ken.

1595
01:40:50,211 --> 01:40:51,254
Get yourself a drink.

1596
01:40:51,337 --> 01:40:54,923
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1597
01:40:57,718 --> 01:40:59,219
Don't think I don't respect it.

1598
01:41:00,012 --> 01:41:02,639
Your whole crusade.

1599
01:41:03,391 --> 01:41:04,767
That's not what this is.

1600
01:41:04,850 --> 01:41:05,976
No, I know.

1601
01:41:07,478 --> 01:41:09,564
You're a Robin Hood.
You're solving everybody's problems.

1602
01:41:09,647 --> 01:41:10,981
One good deed at a time.

1603
01:41:13,985 --> 01:41:15,610
You poisoned the well.

1604
01:41:16,271 --> 01:41:17,197
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1605
01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:20,783
You poisoned the well.
You played on peoples' fear

1606
01:41:20,866 --> 01:41:24,205
and their pain, and their anger,
their distrust of government,

1607
01:41:24,301 --> 01:41:26,904
to act against their own best interests.

1608
01:41:26,998 --> 01:41:30,084
Look, my girl's birthday is today.

1609
01:41:30,167 --> 01:41:31,323
Caterer is coming.

1610
01:41:31,877 --> 01:41:33,505
You gonna meet these numbers or what?

1611
01:41:33,588 --> 01:41:34,672
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1612
01:41:40,595 --> 01:41:43,181
Look, I know, it hurts.

1613
01:41:43,264 --> 01:41:44,891
But "fair" is not the goal.

1614
01:41:46,017 --> 01:41:47,601
It's "finish and move on."

1615
01:41:55,943 --> 01:41:57,403
I said that.

1616
01:41:57,486 --> 01:41:59,321
Yeah. You probably did.

1617
01:41:59,905 --> 01:42:02,075
You've always been my hero, Ken.

1618
01:42:03,055 --> 01:42:05,286
I watched you
argue in front of a fold.

1619
01:42:05,369 --> 01:42:08,122
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1620
01:42:08,205 --> 01:42:11,958
Doubt you believed a word you said
but man, did it sound good.

1621
01:42:14,670 --> 01:42:16,212
What are you doing? Ken?

1622
01:42:18,716 --> 01:42:19,841
Don't be an idiot.

1623
01:42:21,209 --> 01:42:22,491
Ken.

1624
01:42:23,054 --> 01:42:23,888
Come on, man.

1625
01:42:24,847 --> 01:42:26,139
Change of heart, Lee.

1626
01:42:27,721 --> 01:42:28,730
Ken.

1627
01:42:28,949 --> 01:42:30,161
Ken!

1628
01:43:21,695 --> 01:43:22,811
Ken.

1629
01:43:23,197 --> 01:43:24,449
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1630
01:43:24,532 --> 01:43:26,534
The families. It's been like this
the whole morning.

1631
01:43:26,617 --> 01:43:28,995
Some calls, some walk-ins.

1632
01:43:29,078 --> 01:43:31,080
Suddenly everyone wants to have
a private meeting.

1633
01:43:31,163 --> 01:43:32,163
Why?

1634
01:43:36,585 --> 01:43:39,297
"By now many of us
have sat down with Mr. Feinberg.

1635
01:43:39,380 --> 01:43:40,590
Looked him the eye.

1636
01:43:40,673 --> 01:43:43,217
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that we're after.

1637
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:48,765
It's for our own government, this system
to treat us all with dignity, respect.

1638
01:43:48,848 --> 01:43:53,685
While I can't speak for the system,
but I have come to believe in Mr. Feinberg.

1639
01:43:54,395 --> 01:43:58,565
That's why I'm happy to announce,
<i>The Fund is Fixed</i>."

1640
01:43:59,650 --> 01:44:01,192
We've just passed 65 %.

1641
01:44:02,695 --> 01:44:04,988
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1642
01:44:09,118 --> 01:44:10,827
I give you a number right there.

1643
01:44:15,207 --> 01:44:17,418
Carrie, is that Richmond?
I need that as soon as you're done.

1644
01:44:17,501 --> 01:44:18,920
Yeah. Yeah.

1645
01:44:19,003 --> 01:44:21,588
Well, I know your kids start school soon.

1646
01:44:22,757 --> 01:44:29,013
If you'd like we can fax a redirect
payment right into the tuition account.

1647
01:44:29,096 --> 01:44:32,182
And… that would be helpful?
How does that sound?</font>

1648
01:44:32,683 --> 01:44:37,146
What I can do is fax some materials
to a copy center.

1649
01:44:37,229 --> 01:44:38,605
You near one of those?

1650
01:44:39,231 --> 01:44:41,109
You know what, I can look that up for you.

1651
01:44:41,192 --> 01:44:43,777
All right, you're still up
the Arthur Ave. address?

1652
01:44:51,911 --> 01:44:52,827
Hello.

1653
01:44:53,704 --> 01:44:54,579
Charles.

1654
01:44:56,457 --> 01:44:57,791
I should get back to it.

1655
01:44:58,542 --> 01:45:00,084
-Nice to see you.
-Yeah, you too.</font>

1656
01:45:01,128 --> 01:45:02,128
Here you go.

1657
01:45:02,713 --> 01:45:04,798
There's still a typo on page three.

1658
01:45:05,424 --> 01:45:06,966
We'll get right on that.

1659
01:45:07,885 --> 01:45:10,388
And you were wrong about me and Quinn.

1660
01:45:11,096 --> 01:45:12,680
He didn't try to coach you?

1661
01:45:13,224 --> 01:45:14,434
He did.

1662
01:45:14,517 --> 01:45:15,683
But…

1663
01:45:16,519 --> 01:45:17,769
you're nothing like him.

1664
01:45:21,982 --> 01:45:23,316
Bye, Mr. Feinberg.

1665
01:45:25,555 --> 01:45:26,902
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1666
01:45:39,875 --> 01:45:43,586
Dear Mrs Banton,
I've been handling your claim myself.

1667
01:45:44,380 --> 01:45:48,342
I know there's been an issue
with your husband's life insurance offset.

1668
01:45:48,425 --> 01:45:50,928
And look, I've been fiddling
with the numbers.

1669
01:45:51,011 --> 01:45:54,097
And I wanna propose something.
I think you gonna like it.

1670
01:45:55,182 --> 01:45:57,267
We just wanna make sure
you have everything you need…

1671
01:45:57,935 --> 01:46:00,478
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You filled it out right.

1672
01:46:00,688 --> 01:46:02,564
Does anybody wanna
give me a hand here?

1673
01:46:05,025 --> 01:46:06,484
It's a lot more down the truck.

1674
01:46:07,278 --> 01:46:08,571
Please tidy it up.

1675
01:46:08,654 --> 01:46:09,571
Thank you.

1676
01:46:10,030 --> 01:46:12,156
OK, come on guys, let's go.

1677
01:46:12,658 --> 01:46:13,783
Let's go.

1678
01:46:18,664 --> 01:46:20,874
OK. What have you got?

1679
01:46:22,501 --> 01:46:25,461
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1680
01:46:27,172 --> 01:46:28,631
Should we call the President?

1681
01:46:29,049 --> 01:46:30,218
Let's get drunk.

1682
01:46:30,301 --> 01:46:32,427
Let's get drunk with the President.

1683
01:47:00,915 --> 01:47:05,043
Mr. Morris, this is Camille Biros
from a "Victim Compensation Fund."

1684
01:47:07,129 --> 01:47:09,422
I'm sure you've heard the news.

1685
01:47:13,010 --> 01:47:15,345
You should know because of your case

1686
01:47:16,889 --> 01:47:18,376
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1687
01:47:18,476 --> 01:47:22,977
a great number of people
in similar relationships in New York.

1688
01:47:26,774 --> 01:47:27,774
But…

1689
01:47:29,234 --> 01:47:30,443
Unfortunately…

1690
01:47:31,445 --> 01:47:34,614
Tom's parents, being how they are…

1691
01:47:35,658 --> 01:47:40,161
And Virginia State Law
we were not able to accommodate yours.

1692
01:47:43,165 --> 01:47:44,374
I'm so sorry.

1693
01:47:48,295 --> 01:47:50,046
I'm sure that doesn't help.

1694
01:48:06,271 --> 01:48:10,692
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1695
01:48:13,028 --> 01:48:15,029
Hey, Mr. Feinberg.

1696
01:48:16,740 --> 01:48:18,866
-Look, I'm sorry--
-Come on over here.

1697
01:48:21,264 --> 01:48:22,226
I…

1698
01:48:25,708 --> 01:48:26,916
I just…

1699
01:48:29,128 --> 01:48:30,503
I didn't wanna know.

1700
01:48:31,338 --> 01:48:32,588
I'm not stupid.

1701
01:48:33,173 --> 01:48:34,257
You know.

1702
01:48:37,386 --> 01:48:42,265
He'd get a call after dinner,
and he'd say it was Frank.

1703
01:48:42,957 --> 01:48:47,020
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a three-alarm in the city or whatever.

1704
01:48:48,647 --> 01:48:50,066
Then he'd kiss me goodbye.

1705
01:48:50,149 --> 01:48:52,692
And I would pretend like I didn't know
that he was lying.

1706
01:48:54,194 --> 01:48:56,572
Then later I'd be over with Irene and…

1707
01:48:56,663 --> 01:48:58,574
You know, Frank would come home
after drinking with the boys

1708
01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:01,577
and I would say,
"How'd that three-alarm go?"

1709
01:49:01,660 --> 01:49:03,453
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1710
01:49:04,246 --> 01:49:07,165
with the straightest face
you've ever seen in your life, and he'd say,

1711
01:49:09,668 --> 01:49:10,877
"Nicky's moping up."

1712
01:49:12,337 --> 01:49:15,214
But he was a real hero that night.
You should've seen him.

1713
01:49:17,551 --> 01:49:20,386
"Might be a while though,
so don't wait up."

1714
01:49:23,182 --> 01:49:25,850
And you know I don't hate Frank for that.

1715
01:49:26,935 --> 01:49:28,770
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1716
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,025
I didn't want him to die.

1717
01:49:33,108 --> 01:49:34,400
Of course not.

1718
01:49:35,569 --> 01:49:37,779
But I used to wish
all sorts of things about her.

1719
01:49:39,364 --> 01:49:41,117
You didn't do anything wrong, Karen.

1720
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,202
-No, God tests us.
-No, it's not your fault.

1721
01:49:55,714 --> 01:49:59,008
Will you make sure
that they get what they need,

1722
01:50:00,010 --> 01:50:01,511
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1723
01:50:04,515 --> 01:50:05,556
I will.

1724
01:50:17,415 --> 01:50:19,186
$450,000.

1725
01:51:42,404 --> 01:51:45,801
The 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund
was the only fund of its kind in US history

1726
01:51:45,901 --> 01:51:48,235
It ultimately signed on 97 %
of eligible claimants,

1727
01:51:48,335 --> 01:51:51,753
distributing over 7 billion dollars
in public money to 5,650 people.

1728
01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:53,791
Only 94 people declined to participate.

1729
01:51:59,338 --> 01:52:01,998
<font color="
formally closed in 2003,

1730
01:52:02,098 --> 01:52:05,792
new funds with different special masters
were established in 2011, and again in 2019,

1731
01:52:05,892 --> 01:52:09,066
due to overwhelming public outcry
to continue supporting first responders

1732
01:52:09,166 --> 01:52:11,639
and others suffering long term
adverse health effects.

1733
01:52:14,353 --> 01:52:17,852
Since 9/11 Ken and Camille have continued
to administer compensation funds</font>

1734
01:52:17,952 --> 01:52:21,491
on behalf of tens of thousands of victims
in a variety of cases, such as

1735
01:52:22,014 --> 01:52:27,014
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