1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:02,250 I know him. It's that bloke I tasered. 2 00:00:02,300 --> 00:00:05,250 - They let him out on bail yesterday. - Look what they've done to Daryl. 3 00:00:05,300 --> 00:00:09,530 - This is the lads you let off with a caution. - Come on through, I'm gonna nip this in the bud. 4 00:00:09,580 --> 00:00:11,570 - I will scream. - You shouldn't have done it! 5 00:00:11,620 --> 00:00:13,610 We've got a bit of a weirdo doing the rounds. 6 00:00:13,660 --> 00:00:16,290 He's killed three girls. You need to be aware, all right? 7 00:00:16,340 --> 00:00:17,930 - Leonie, are you listening? - Yeah. 8 00:00:17,980 --> 00:00:22,330 - Are we looking at the same killer? - Yeah. Not as frenzied. But, yeah. 9 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:24,530 You killed my mother, you filthy bitch! 10 00:00:24,580 --> 00:00:26,770 You're going to get what's coming to you! 11 00:00:26,820 --> 00:00:29,760 - Do you want to go for a drink sometime? - OK. 12 00:00:31,380 --> 00:00:32,810 She is poison. 13 00:00:32,860 --> 00:00:34,850 She needs putting out of her misery, that one. 14 00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:38,660 I know we try not to have nasty thoughts, Frances, but... 15 00:00:55,380 --> 00:00:59,010 - It's very good of you to turn out in the middle of the night. - It's fine. 16 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:02,530 It's just... those other two didn't seem to take it seriously at all. 17 00:01:02,580 --> 00:01:05,370 She's here, love. And they were both women. 18 00:01:05,420 --> 00:01:09,090 They're Specials, part-timers, If it's who I think it is. 19 00:01:09,140 --> 00:01:11,490 Course, my first thought when she rang me was, 20 00:01:11,540 --> 00:01:12,850 "Well, what if it's him?" 21 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:15,970 So why weren't they thinking the same thing? 22 00:01:16,020 --> 00:01:18,170 Well, God knows. 23 00:01:18,220 --> 00:01:19,820 Hello, Leonie. 24 00:01:21,220 --> 00:01:22,810 He would have strangled her, 25 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:24,570 if she hadn't managed to raise the alarm, 26 00:01:24,620 --> 00:01:27,010 and if this other lass hadn't been just round the corner. 27 00:01:27,060 --> 00:01:28,930 Tell me about this other lass. 28 00:01:28,980 --> 00:01:32,290 Kelsey. She just lives up the road. I can give you her number. 29 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:33,850 It was her that rang 999. 30 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:37,610 Have you got something I can write with? 31 00:01:37,660 --> 00:01:40,170 Leonie, listen, love, listen to me. 32 00:01:40,220 --> 00:01:43,370 You're doing really well, you're being really brave. 33 00:01:45,460 --> 00:01:49,490 So what's going to happen now is I'm going to take a few details... 34 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:51,770 - Will this do? - Ta. 35 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:54,810 .. and then I'm going to take you down to the station with me. 36 00:01:54,860 --> 00:01:57,530 You need to make a statement. 37 00:01:57,580 --> 00:02:00,290 Leonie, look at me. 38 00:02:00,340 --> 00:02:04,450 Annette can come with us if you like. Would you like that? 39 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:08,090 One of the officers... One of the other officers, I can't do it, 40 00:02:08,140 --> 00:02:11,490 because I'm not on duty, but it'll be a woman, it won't be a man, 41 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:15,130 she'll need to go through the early evidence kit with you... 42 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:17,490 That's like your swabs and everything. 43 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:19,370 .. and then we'll take you over to Bradford. 44 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:22,530 There's a proper unit there, where they can look after you 45 00:02:22,580 --> 00:02:25,530 and someone'll see to you, a doctor. 46 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:29,130 They'll make sure that you're safe and you're comfortable. 47 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:31,570 I've sat her on a plastic bag and then... 48 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:33,620 I'm thinking evidence. 49 00:02:35,820 --> 00:02:38,610 Can you talk me through what's happened? 50 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:40,860 I need to hear it from Leonie. 51 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:44,540 Just... 52 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:48,460 I were on Stoney Royd Lane... 53 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:53,180 .. and there were three of us. 54 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:57,130 And he come along in his van. 55 00:02:57,180 --> 00:03:00,170 And I said, I told him... 56 00:03:00,220 --> 00:03:02,370 "It's £5 with, and without, it's double." 57 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:03,890 So he knew. 58 00:03:04,820 --> 00:03:07,410 And he said he were fine with that, 59 00:03:07,460 --> 00:03:11,770 so I got in and we went down to the cricket club, 60 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:13,460 the car park. 61 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:18,380 - He stank, he'd been drinking. - They all do. 62 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,610 And then when he gets going, he decides he wants to do it without. 63 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:25,930 They do that. 64 00:03:25,980 --> 00:03:29,500 So I said, "You have to pay me up front." 65 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:35,210 And he goes, "I'll pay you after," but they only ever say that 66 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:37,620 when they haven't enough. 67 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:41,890 I said, "Well, it's not happening, then." 68 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:48,580 But... you know... And I couldn't stop him. 69 00:03:51,660 --> 00:03:54,700 I was struggling but then he had his hand on my throat. 70 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:01,570 He's pressing down on me, he's inside me without a condom 71 00:04:01,620 --> 00:04:03,420 and I can't breathe. 72 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:09,730 And he's a big fella and I can feel meself going red in t'face. 73 00:04:09,780 --> 00:04:13,210 And he goes, "If you don't stop wriggling, I'm going to shove 74 00:04:13,260 --> 00:04:15,050 "a broken bottle up you." 75 00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:18,740 Oh... Did he indeed? 76 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:29,890 God knows how, I managed to press my stiletto into t'steering wheel 77 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:32,170 and it were more by luck than management, 78 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:34,290 but it made the horn go... 79 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:37,600 .. and that shocked the bastard. 80 00:04:39,220 --> 00:04:40,690 Shocked me. 81 00:04:44,180 --> 00:04:46,810 Then... he smacked me in the face and he's spitting and 82 00:04:46,860 --> 00:04:50,130 calling me all the usual, and he's going, "Get out, get out!" 83 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:52,810 - like nasty, and... - And that's when Kelsey turned up. 84 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:55,450 She offered to go to t'hospital with her but these two... 85 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:57,610 And he's just driven off, then, or what? 86 00:04:57,660 --> 00:04:59,810 Yeah, when Kelsey started banging on t'window. 87 00:04:59,860 --> 00:05:03,810 These two uniforms, or specials, whatever, they're saying, 88 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:06,410 "No, we're not going to take you, we'll take her 89 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:08,860 "because we're not a taxi service." 90 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:12,370 - Did you tell them what he'd said to you? - They didn't ask. 91 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:14,890 They didn't take a statement, they didn't write owt down. 92 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:16,290 Basically they're saying, 93 00:05:16,340 --> 00:05:19,640 "Oh, right, love, has he not paid you, then? Boo-hoo." 94 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:24,890 So did either of you... of you or Kelsey recognise him? 95 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:27,480 Is he someone you've been with before? 96 00:05:29,060 --> 00:05:30,770 No, but she's got his number. 97 00:05:30,820 --> 00:05:33,220 His registration number. Show her. 98 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:41,250 What sort of vehicle did you say it was? 99 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:43,300 - A white van. - A van. 100 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:49,930 I'm going to take a photo of your arm on my phone 101 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:52,850 and then I'm going to take you down to the station in my car, 102 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,330 it's just outside, 15 yards down the road. 103 00:05:55,380 --> 00:05:58,570 - Can you manage that? - It won't be... 104 00:05:58,620 --> 00:06:00,610 It won't be what, love? 105 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:02,250 Taking swabs. It won't be them two? 106 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:04,610 It's not going to be those two that just dumped her 107 00:06:04,660 --> 00:06:06,650 on the doorstep at the hospital, and said, 108 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:08,650 "If you're still insisting in the morning 109 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:11,490 "you've been raped, come back and report it, then"? 110 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:15,300 No. No, it won't be them two, Leonie. 111 00:06:16,380 --> 00:06:18,580 I'll be dealing with them two. 112 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:23,010 There's a tower block overhead 113 00:06:23,060 --> 00:06:25,210 All you got's your benefits 114 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:27,530 And you're barely scraping by 115 00:06:30,860 --> 00:06:33,410 In this trouble town 116 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:36,780 Troubles are found 117 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:43,290 Stuck in speed-bump city 118 00:06:43,340 --> 00:06:45,570 Where the only thing that's pretty 119 00:06:45,620 --> 00:06:48,020 Is the thought of getting out. 120 00:06:59,260 --> 00:07:02,450 Oh! You're back. You've been out for a pizza and now you're playing pool. 121 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,610 - Hiya, Sarge. - Do you want some? - Shall I tell you what I'VE been doing? 122 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:08,410 I've just briefed the night crew on an arrest strategy for a fella 123 00:07:08,460 --> 00:07:10,250 that's raped and assaulted a 19-year-old. 124 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:12,010 They've just gone to pick him up just now. 125 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:13,930 She's gone off to the OPAL Unit in Bradford, 126 00:07:13,980 --> 00:07:16,450 so we can get her properly examined, and now I'm going to wake 127 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:17,850 Mr Shepherd up and tell him I think 128 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,570 he might want to look at this bloke because he might - just might - 129 00:07:20,620 --> 00:07:23,690 - be the twisted little bastard that's been killing prostitutes. - Really? 130 00:07:23,740 --> 00:07:25,730 So what I want to know from you is... Yes, really. 131 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:27,570 What I REALLY want to know from you is, 132 00:07:27,620 --> 00:07:30,450 when you were called out to assist her, why you did the absolute 133 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:32,970 minimum required and why her friend's ringing me at home 134 00:07:33,020 --> 00:07:36,610 at four o'clock in the morning to come out and do your job for you. 135 00:07:36,660 --> 00:07:39,330 - We were just... - You dropped her at the hospital doors. 136 00:07:39,380 --> 00:07:41,410 You didn't even see her inside. She didn't go in 137 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:43,930 after you'd left. She was too upset, she was too frightened. 138 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:46,930 She stood in the cold for an hour-and-a-half, frozen rigid, 139 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:48,530 waiting for a bus to get home. 140 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:51,490 We were always told to take anything they said with a pinch of salt, 141 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:54,250 and it's been a busy night. We're only just on our meal break 142 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:57,050 - and we're knocking off in an hour. - "They"? Prostitutes? 143 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,410 We're talking about a vulnerable 19-year-old. 144 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:01,530 Her face was bruised, her neck was bruised. 145 00:08:01,580 --> 00:08:03,450 - That ain't someone crying wolf. - It was dark. 146 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:05,970 You didn't even take a statement. I'm just ignoring that. 147 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:08,960 No, I'm not. You've got a torch, haven't you?! 148 00:08:09,940 --> 00:08:11,970 I've had a go at the night sergeant for sending 149 00:08:12,020 --> 00:08:14,770 a couple of hobby-bobbies out on a job that needed somebody with 150 00:08:14,820 --> 00:08:17,170 the proper skill set and a bit more wool on their backs. 151 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:19,610 And I know it's been a busy night but, for God's sakes, 152 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:22,010 there's somebody out there targeting prostitutes. 153 00:08:22,060 --> 00:08:23,050 Did you not think? 154 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,490 You know, you lot, you come in and you give us four hours a week, 155 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:28,490 if we're lucky. If you can be bothered. 156 00:08:28,540 --> 00:08:30,930 The least you could do when you get here is engage. 157 00:08:30,980 --> 00:08:32,820 I'm sorry, Sergeant. 158 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,170 Right. I'm going home for 40 minutes 159 00:08:37,220 --> 00:08:38,970 to say happy birthday to my grandson, 160 00:08:39,020 --> 00:08:42,090 get changed, then straight back here in time for the eight o'clock shift. 161 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:44,650 I'm not reporting you to professional standards, 162 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:46,850 although God knows why - I should be doing. 163 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:49,570 But, please, just learn something from it. 164 00:08:49,620 --> 00:08:52,490 You'll need to make statements. Both of you. 165 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,290 Where've you been? 166 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:53,690 Oh, I got a phone call. This lass got raped. 167 00:09:53,740 --> 00:09:57,090 - What lass? - 19-year-old, down in Sowerby Bridge. 168 00:09:57,140 --> 00:09:59,410 Well, what were the night crew doing? 169 00:09:59,460 --> 00:10:02,420 Oh, it's long, it's complicated. 170 00:10:03,540 --> 00:10:05,330 What you doing up? 171 00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:09,020 Oh, I couldn't sleep. And then I heard you set off. 172 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:13,330 I thought you'd gone up to Heptonstall 173 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:15,050 to be with Becky. 174 00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:16,980 No. 175 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:21,100 No. 176 00:10:23,540 --> 00:10:26,210 I always think about you on his birthday. 177 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:29,340 I know you do. 178 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:32,410 We'll get through it. 179 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:34,850 We'll get through today 180 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:37,610 and then we'll get through the next few weeks. 181 00:10:37,660 --> 00:10:39,130 And then... 182 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:45,260 Big smiles. 183 00:10:46,460 --> 00:10:50,210 Happy birthday to you. 184 00:10:50,260 --> 00:10:53,610 Shut up! Neighbours'll complain. - So what? - Good. 185 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:55,170 Are you going to open the others? 186 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:58,170 Or are you just going to spend the rest of your life balancing on that? 187 00:10:58,220 --> 00:11:01,250 Can I go to school on it? - Uphill? Does that work? - It's not ALL uphill. 188 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:03,890 No. If you're going in the opposite direction, it's downhill. 189 00:11:03,940 --> 00:11:05,850 Stop trying to blind everybody with science. 190 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:08,370 Going to open your cards? They might be stashed with moolah. 191 00:11:08,420 --> 00:11:11,210 - Who's this from again? - I've no idea, I told you. It was on the doorstep, 192 00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:13,410 - 6:30 this morning. - It's big. I can tell you that much. 193 00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:15,770 Let's get ripping, I've got to go to work in five minutes. 194 00:11:15,820 --> 00:11:18,690 - This is from me. - I know what that is. 195 00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:22,130 The sort you asked for. Took me best part of a week to wrap that up 196 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:24,570 and I got through about 16 rolls of Sellotape. 197 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:25,970 Who's this one from again, Gran? 198 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:29,540 I've just said, I don't know, it was on the doorstep. 199 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:33,020 Wahey! Rip it! 200 00:11:35,380 --> 00:11:37,050 - Wow. - Blimey! 201 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:39,450 Oh, my God! Look at that. I think that might be from me. 202 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,170 - Is it? - Yeah, yeah. 203 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:43,570 I got up early specially to go and put it outside. 204 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:46,490 - He's lying. - Actually, I think it might be FOR me. 205 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:48,130 I think they've put the wrong 206 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:51,250 name on by mistake. I think they've got our birthdays mixed up. 207 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:54,330 That's... whoa. Who's it from? 208 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:56,730 I'm going to start speaking Urdu soon, 209 00:11:56,780 --> 00:11:58,770 then people might understand me better. 210 00:11:58,820 --> 00:12:01,570 - We don't know. - Calm down, dear. 211 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:03,450 Wasn't there a card with it? 212 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:06,530 No. Not unless next door's cat's had it. 213 00:12:06,580 --> 00:12:09,650 You know, that's about, like, 150 quid's worth of kit, that. 214 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:11,840 Nevison. Nevison Gallagher. 215 00:12:15,060 --> 00:12:17,570 Sean Balmforth. Date of birth - 17.11.85. 216 00:12:17,620 --> 00:12:19,330 29 years old. 217 00:12:19,380 --> 00:12:23,210 Address - 34 Burley Road, Illingworth. 218 00:12:23,260 --> 00:12:26,410 He's got a string of convictions and he's on the Sex Offender's Register. 219 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:29,410 Unlawful sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old. 220 00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:31,010 That was ten years ago. 221 00:12:31,060 --> 00:12:33,890 His van's been seized in connection with the assault 222 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:35,850 and rape of this girl in the early hours. 223 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:38,850 Forensics are across it, I've spoken to the supervisor 224 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:41,370 and they're aware we're looking at him for other things. 225 00:12:41,420 --> 00:12:43,690 On an initial visual inspection they've told me 226 00:12:43,740 --> 00:12:45,370 they've found rope in the back. 227 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:48,210 Nylon rope. Three separate lengths. 228 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:50,930 There's also a couple of bags of rubbish in there, containing - 229 00:12:50,980 --> 00:12:53,330 amongst other things - a number of beer bottles, 230 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:56,770 some of which are of the same brand as those found at the site where 231 00:12:56,820 --> 00:12:59,570 Ana Vasalescu was found and where Vicky Fleming was found. 232 00:12:59,620 --> 00:13:01,250 So, 233 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:03,890 once they've charged him over this business this morning 234 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:06,730 we'll step in and see if he'd like to have a conversation with us. 235 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:08,930 Arresting him? 236 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:10,890 I'll run everything past the CPS 237 00:13:10,940 --> 00:13:14,530 and, depending on what else we dig up between now and then... 238 00:13:14,580 --> 00:13:16,450 yeah. We've got reasonable grounds. 239 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:20,210 I've got POLSA going through his house on a Section 18, we'll get 240 00:13:20,260 --> 00:13:21,730 his phone back from the OPAL Unit 241 00:13:21,780 --> 00:13:23,890 as soon as they've got what they want from it. 242 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:27,090 Let's start tracking his movements over the last five months, 243 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,210 working backwards. 244 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:31,570 I want to know everything there is to know about this fella. 245 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:34,090 I want a list of all his contacts, his family, his friends, 246 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:36,570 I want a picture of his daily routine, his lifestyle, 247 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:37,970 any employment, 248 00:13:38,020 --> 00:13:41,290 any access to other vehicles besides this one we've seized. 249 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:46,130 Bank details, where's he drawn money out and when? John, Steve, Jodie, 250 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:48,570 can we talk through an interview strategy in my office 251 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:51,980 in a minute? John, have you got a second? 252 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:58,540 Telecoms found your name and number in Vicky Fleming's mobile phone. 253 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:06,170 Do you know? I had a funny feeling. I wasn't certain. 254 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:07,890 But... 255 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:09,890 two years, eighteen months since? 256 00:14:09,940 --> 00:14:12,530 I was working on a fraud investigation up 257 00:14:12,580 --> 00:14:16,450 at the building society and she was... 258 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:18,290 she was the point of contact. 259 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:22,570 So, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd have given her my number. 260 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:23,610 Blimey. 261 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:26,370 Mind you, who haven't I given my number to over the years? 262 00:14:26,420 --> 00:14:29,330 I don't think I spoke to her more than once or twice. 263 00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:31,210 You should have said. 264 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:34,010 I wasn't convinced it was her. 265 00:14:34,060 --> 00:14:37,250 I couldn't have told you her name if you'd been asking me to remember. 266 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:40,210 Maybe if she'd been working at the building society now 267 00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:42,330 it would have rung a bell but... 268 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:45,610 So that's the only contact you've ever had with her? 269 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:48,210 Yeah, yeah. 270 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:52,130 OK. Can you make a statement to that effect and then it's covered? 271 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:55,650 Sure. So do you think this is the fella? 272 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:57,690 You know as much as me at the minute. 273 00:14:57,740 --> 00:15:01,970 John, is everything all right at home? I keep meaning to ask. 274 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:07,050 Yeah. Well, you know. Slings and arrows. 275 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:10,170 - Well, you know this door's always open, don't you? - Yeah. 276 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:12,250 I mean, except when it's shut. 277 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:14,170 Sure. 278 00:15:14,220 --> 00:15:17,370 Hey, how was your date with your little job-pissed PCSO? 279 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:19,940 What date? What date? 280 00:15:24,820 --> 00:15:26,210 Ann! 281 00:15:26,260 --> 00:15:28,260 Oh, somebody's in bother. 282 00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:32,970 You all right, love? You're pale. You're quiet. 283 00:15:33,020 --> 00:15:34,530 - I'm fine. - Yeah? 284 00:15:34,580 --> 00:15:37,610 I'm just... I'm wondering if I'm starting with flu. 285 00:15:37,660 --> 00:15:39,370 Right. Well, don't overdo it. 286 00:15:39,420 --> 00:15:42,770 If you start to feel like crap, you need to be at home. Yeah? 287 00:15:42,820 --> 00:15:44,210 Yeah, yeah. 288 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:46,290 - Your dad knows Sean Balmforth, doesn't he? - Who? 289 00:15:46,340 --> 00:15:50,250 This fella we picked up last night. He works for your dad. 290 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:51,930 Does he? Don't know. 291 00:15:51,980 --> 00:15:54,890 I don't know half the people that work for me dad. 292 00:15:54,940 --> 00:15:57,250 You don't know anything about what he's like, then? 293 00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:59,970 - Ask me dad. - Oh, they'll interview him, that lot. 294 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:03,520 I just thought you might know him, I was just being nosey. 295 00:16:08,580 --> 00:16:11,850 Ah, my two favourite women in uniform. 296 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,890 No, I'm talking to you. Singing your praises upstairs this morning, 297 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:17,610 Mr Shepherd - good old-fashioned police work, 298 00:16:17,660 --> 00:16:19,170 picking up this fella last night. 299 00:16:19,220 --> 00:16:22,370 And you, identifying Vicky Fleming last week. 300 00:16:22,420 --> 00:16:24,890 You both made me look really good in there today. Well done. 301 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:27,610 It's the only reason I do anything is to make you look good, Sir. 302 00:16:27,660 --> 00:16:29,530 And not a hint of sarcasm Oh! As well... 303 00:16:29,580 --> 00:16:32,970 I had a phone call from HMIT last night. Goran Dragovic, 304 00:16:33,020 --> 00:16:34,930 death of. They are now pursuing it as murder, 305 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:37,690 - not suicide. - Really? - Yup. - Really?! 306 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:39,490 Is that that fella we found hanged? 307 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:43,210 Yeah. So, who're they pursuing, then? The Knezevics? 308 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:44,730 Well, wouldn't that be lovely? 309 00:16:44,780 --> 00:16:47,010 To actually pin something on one of the Knezevics. 310 00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:49,490 They won't have got their own hands mucky, of course. 311 00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:50,690 But, you know... 312 00:16:50,740 --> 00:16:53,570 Anything we can do to disrupt their operations and get that bit closer. 313 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:56,370 Every little helps. Chipping away. 314 00:16:56,420 --> 00:16:58,960 Anyway, yeah, well done, both of you. 315 00:17:01,260 --> 00:17:02,850 Who are the Knezevics? 316 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:05,810 Oh, they're... You know how New Jersey has the Sopranos? 317 00:17:05,860 --> 00:17:08,450 Well, Halifax has the Knezevics. 318 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:10,970 And they ain't no choirboys either. 319 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:12,410 How's Ilinka? 320 00:17:12,460 --> 00:17:15,210 Fine. I wish she'd make her mind up to go home, though. 321 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:17,890 I'm sick of sleeping in that conservatory. 322 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:19,130 You're mad. 323 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:22,170 You and your dad, or just your dad, he didn't send our Ryan 324 00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:25,850 a ridiculously expensive birthday present this morning, did he? 325 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:27,700 Not that I know of. 326 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:34,370 You do realise it's ten to nine? 327 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:35,570 No, it's not. 328 00:17:35,620 --> 00:17:37,810 - Ooh! - Are you dropping him off? 329 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:40,860 Yeah, yeah. Come on, turn it off. Ryan, off. 330 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,780 Ryan, Ry... I'm switching it off. 331 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,250 Why do I have to go to school on my birthday? 332 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:51,090 You're going to be LATE on your birthday. 333 00:17:51,140 --> 00:17:53,730 Come on. You can play with it as much as you want at tea-time. 334 00:17:53,780 --> 00:17:56,650 - Have a nice day. - Where's me dinner gone? 335 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:02,700 - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. 336 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:37,970 What a piece of shit. 337 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:53,810 - Here he is, look. - Y'all right, Flash? 338 00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:56,050 What were you doing grassing us up to t'police? 339 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:57,450 We were only having a bit of fun, 340 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,650 no reason to grass us up to the 5-0, is there? 341 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:02,530 - We're your mates. - The only mates you'll ever have. 342 00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:04,850 - Oops! - Nice trip, love? - Go on, pick your stuff up. 343 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:08,690 He don't say much, does he? You don't say much, Flash. 344 00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:11,570 Yeah, like, how about, "Sorry, lads, sorry for grassing you up to 345 00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:14,410 "the feds, sorry for being such a sad little twat, 346 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:17,490 "such a sad little mummy's boy twat." 347 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,610 - Is it true you shag your own mother, Flash? - Does he?! 348 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:24,090 He don't want to, like, but she makes him because she's a whore. 349 00:19:24,140 --> 00:19:25,490 I heard he shags sheep. 350 00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:27,650 He does that and all but can't tell t'difference 351 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:29,770 - up there in the dark, eh? - Can you not? Can he not? 352 00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:31,130 Can you not, Flash? 353 00:19:31,180 --> 00:19:32,730 Argh! 354 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:34,730 What you doing? - You fucking idiot! - Whoa! 355 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:37,540 Relax, Flash! Put it down! 356 00:19:40,260 --> 00:19:41,930 Just put it down! 357 00:19:59,460 --> 00:20:00,900 Afternoon. 358 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:03,920 He's in here. 359 00:20:12,740 --> 00:20:15,730 How are you doing there, Daryl? 360 00:20:15,780 --> 00:20:18,130 I don't know what's happened exactly, but... 361 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:21,250 I think Daryl knows why we're here. Don't you, Daryl? 362 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:23,850 - Hmm? - I know he gets provoked. 363 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:25,970 They might have all been charged, that lot, 364 00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:28,450 but they're all out on bail - every one of them - 365 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:31,490 and he still has to go down there and buy his tobacco and his filters. 366 00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:34,450 Let's turn this telly off, Daryl. Come on, this is serious. 367 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:35,890 If he has done something, 368 00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:37,730 it can't be worse than what they've done to him. 369 00:20:37,780 --> 00:20:40,050 So you know what's happened this morning, Daryl? 370 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:43,170 Yeah? We've had a report you've been involved in an altercation, 371 00:20:43,220 --> 00:20:45,890 and you've been to your car and you've pulled out a lump hammer. 372 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:47,890 - Has he? - And you've attacked people 373 00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:50,890 and, you know, that's an arrestable offence, isn't it? 374 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:53,010 Having an offensive weapon in a public place. 375 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:55,050 - He'd never... - It's all on CCTV. 376 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,490 So, Daryl, I'm arresting you. Do you understand? 377 00:20:57,540 --> 00:20:58,930 You do not have to say anything, 378 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:01,010 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention 379 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,570 when questioned something which you later rely on in court. 380 00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:05,530 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 381 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:08,610 - Could you stand up, please? - They start it. Every time. 382 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:11,490 Yeah, I know, but what's happened has happened now, 383 00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:14,170 and you can put your side of it across when you're interviewed, 384 00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:16,650 so come on, stand up. Let's get it over with for you. 385 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:18,730 - Where are you taking him? - Halifax. 386 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:20,490 Shall I follow on in my car? 387 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:22,970 I wouldn't. You'll only be sat outside for hours waiting. 388 00:21:23,020 --> 00:21:25,490 - He needs someone with him. - You won't be allowed in with him. 389 00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:27,810 - Why? - Because he's under arrest. 390 00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:29,770 Well, how long will he be? 391 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:32,650 How long is a piece of string? 392 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:35,010 Well, what am I supposed to do? 393 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:37,290 I'll get someone to ring you to come and pick him up 394 00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:41,250 when we're done with him. Where's your car keys, Daryl? 395 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:42,660 Here. 396 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:54,920 It's on t'floor in the passenger seat. 397 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:06,250 9242, I've got a 112 for possession of an offensive weapon. 398 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:08,770 I'm on my way with him. 399 00:22:08,820 --> 00:22:11,010 OK, Sean, you do not have to say anything, 400 00:22:11,060 --> 00:22:13,210 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention now 401 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:15,090 something which you later rely on in court. 402 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:17,610 Anything you do say will be given in evidence. 403 00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:21,690 You are charged that on 12th September 2015 in Sowerby Bridge, 404 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:23,050 that you intentionally 405 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,130 penetrated the vagina of a woman with your penis 406 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:26,690 when she did not consent 407 00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:29,330 and you did not reasonably believe that she was consenting, 408 00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:33,490 contrary to section one of the Sexual Offences Act 2003. 409 00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:36,610 You are also charged on 12th September 2015, 410 00:22:36,660 --> 00:22:37,930 in Sowerby Bridge, 411 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:40,890 that you assaulted the same woman, causing her Actual Bodily Harm, 412 00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:42,370 contrary to Section 47 of 413 00:22:42,420 --> 00:22:45,250 the Offences Against The Person Act 1861. 414 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:47,970 Have you anything you'd like to say? 415 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:50,980 I paid her. She's a prostitute. 416 00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:54,250 Just wait there for me, please. 417 00:22:57,860 --> 00:23:01,690 Hello, Sean. I'm Detective Inspector Shackleton, HMET, 418 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:04,330 and I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder 419 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:08,970 of Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst and Victoria Fleming. 420 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:11,130 - You what? - You do not have to say anything 421 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:13,490 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention... 422 00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:14,690 What are you talking about? 423 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:16,650 .. something which you later rely on in court. 424 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:18,970 - No, no... - Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 425 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:21,490 - You can't fit me up for everything! - You're going back to 426 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:23,930 - your cell now, Sean... - Do something! Say something! 427 00:23:23,980 --> 00:23:26,610 - You're going back to your cell... - I'm not going back in my cell. 428 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:28,650 - I'm going home! - I'm going to have a conversation 429 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:31,050 - with your solicitor, OK? - No, it's not O-shitting-K! 430 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:34,650 I don't know who them people are! Who are they? Who are they? 431 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:37,690 Who are they?! 432 00:23:37,740 --> 00:23:41,170 This Daryl lad's kicking off downstairs. 433 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,170 He won't have his DNA or his fingerprints done. 434 00:23:43,220 --> 00:23:45,810 They thought you might like to have a crack at persuading him 435 00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:47,730 before they force him. 436 00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:54,290 No, I don't want to! - All right, are you ready? - No! Get away... 437 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:56,370 Now, then, Daryl, why aren't you co-operating? 438 00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:58,970 You said you were going to deal with them and nip it in the bud. 439 00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:01,210 I shouldn't even be here. 440 00:24:01,260 --> 00:24:03,610 They were arrested and charged and they'll be up in court 441 00:24:03,660 --> 00:24:06,210 in the next few weeks, and I'll go there and speak to them again 442 00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:07,770 but, with the best will in the world, 443 00:24:07,820 --> 00:24:09,010 there's only so much we can do 444 00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:11,170 and, frankly, this silly business doesn't help - 445 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:13,810 it just perpetuates the bad feeling. - They're animals. - Yup. 446 00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:16,930 They shouldn't be allowed to walk, allowed to exist, to breathe... 447 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:18,530 And now you've gone and shattered 448 00:24:18,580 --> 00:24:20,690 one of their collar bones with a lump hammer. 449 00:24:20,740 --> 00:24:23,170 Are you going to let me do this? 450 00:24:23,220 --> 00:24:24,890 It doesn't hurt. 451 00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:46,130 We're back! 452 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:48,210 There's a card on the mantelpiece, Ryan! 453 00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:50,200 I found it in that box. 454 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:52,930 Who's it from? 455 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:57,010 I didn't open it - it wasn't addressed to me. 456 00:24:57,060 --> 00:24:58,650 Do you want some tea? 457 00:24:58,700 --> 00:24:59,900 Yeah. 458 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:05,090 Gran, you race that one and I'll race this one. 459 00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:07,410 Are you going to open this card and see who it's from? 460 00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:09,570 Cos, whoever it is, I think you need to send them 461 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:11,410 a note to say a very big thank-you, don't you? 462 00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:13,170 Yeah, you open it. 463 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:14,810 It's not addressed to me. 464 00:25:14,860 --> 00:25:16,330 I'm giving you permission. 465 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:18,130 Come on, hurry up, I'm going to beat you. 466 00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:21,370 There's a year's supply of birthday cake in the kitchen, 467 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:23,420 if anybody's interested. 468 00:25:30,940 --> 00:25:33,130 - Right, get that dismantled, now. - What are you doing? 469 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:34,930 - What are you doing? - What's up, Catherine? 470 00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:38,570 Get it back in the box. In the bin. Straight in the bin! 471 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,690 We can't keep it, I'm sorry. 472 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:43,610 Bastard. - Why not? What are you on about? - The bastard. - Oh, my God. 473 00:25:43,660 --> 00:25:45,970 - What's up? - Your granny's right, we can't keep it. 474 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:48,330 What do you mean "we"? It's not yours, it's mine! 475 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,610 Well, it's either him or some nasty bastard 476 00:25:50,660 --> 00:25:53,330 - playing stupid, dumb, little games. - What is? What is? 477 00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:56,940 It's from your dad. - Yeah, just get a bin bag. - NO! - Sorry. 478 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:01,130 You can't throw away my things! It's mine! 479 00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:03,810 He's not allowed to have any contact with you. This is illegal. 480 00:26:03,860 --> 00:26:05,330 It's bad, it's wrong, it's evil... 481 00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:07,570 - He's trying to mess about with us! - It's a Scalextric! 482 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:09,770 - Yeah, exactly! - She's mental. 483 00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:12,130 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I am mental. 484 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:14,010 I am mental when it comes to that bastard. 485 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:17,210 Look, look, he can't have put it there himself, can he? 486 00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:19,930 - No. No. No... - We'd know about it if he'd escaped. 487 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:21,890 Yeah, but someone, some, some... 488 00:26:21,940 --> 00:26:25,730 - some twisted little git has done it for him. - You're not binning it! 489 00:26:25,780 --> 00:26:28,810 - I'll buy you a new one. - I want this one! - No, no, no way. 490 00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:31,330 I'll buy you another one, I'll buy you one exactly like it. 491 00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:33,330 Why? You can't stop him sending me things. 492 00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:36,010 No! Ryan! I can! You see, this is the man that terrified you, 493 00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:38,210 that traumatised you, that poured petrol over you, 494 00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:40,890 that put me in hospital for four weeks, 495 00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:43,250 that murdered Kirsten... 496 00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:45,010 See? This is what he wants! 497 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:48,360 He wants you and me shouting. He wants you to hate me! 498 00:26:56,780 --> 00:26:59,770 So, as you'll understand from the disclosures we've made to 499 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:01,250 your solicitor, Sean, 500 00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:04,650 we are investigating the deaths of four women - 501 00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:10,410 Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst and Victoria Fleming. 502 00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:12,970 Sean's prepared a statement, if I could read it out. 503 00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:15,650 Oh, please do. 504 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:18,490 "I have been asked to account for my whereabouts at four different 505 00:27:18,540 --> 00:27:20,690 "periods of time across several days. 506 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:23,930 "I cannot, at this moment in time, verify my exact whereabouts 507 00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:26,850 "on any of the dates and times in question, particularly 508 00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,650 "the first three, as they are all some considerable time ago, 509 00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,010 "but I would like to state clearly that I do not know Ana Vasalescu, 510 00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:38,290 "Aurelia Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Victoria Fleming, 511 00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:39,650 "and, to my knowledge, 512 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,400 "have never met or come into contact with them in the past." 513 00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:47,210 OK. That's very helpful, Sean, 514 00:27:47,260 --> 00:27:51,130 but we do still need to ask you some questions, OK? 515 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:52,700 No comment. 516 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:04,210 I shouldn't have said anything. 517 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:06,890 I should have just got rid of the card. 518 00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:08,490 He'd never have said anything. 519 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:11,090 He wasn't the least bit interested in who it was from. 520 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:13,570 I should have just said Nevison and squared it 521 00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:17,620 with Nevison - he'd not have minded. He'd have been pleased to help. 522 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:21,050 You did the right thing. 523 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,640 I think Ryan's realised that himself. 524 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:28,930 Insidious bastard. Who's he got doing that for him? 525 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:30,970 We don't know, do we? 526 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:34,580 We don't know that it's not just some random nasty sod. 527 00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:38,610 Well, it's someone who knows us, or else why would they know 528 00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:40,530 when his birthday is? 529 00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:46,220 We're going round in circles. 530 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,890 Could you not just take it to a charity shop 531 00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:52,330 rather than put it in the bin? 532 00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:56,130 No, I'm taking it to work - the card, the wrapping, the box. 533 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:58,490 See if I can't persuade Mike to send it all off for 534 00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:01,570 ninhydrin testing - see if we can't get some fingerprints. 535 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:04,160 It's a sick trick, whoever's done it. 536 00:29:05,540 --> 00:29:08,250 Never goes away, does it? 537 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:10,300 He'll never go away. 538 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:13,530 Everything all right? 539 00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:17,140 He's fine. He wants you to go up and kiss him. 540 00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:25,570 'Currently being questioned 541 00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:28,490 - 'but no charges have been brought as yet...' - Sorry. 542 00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:31,290 - 'This is a huge breakthrough...' - Is she all right? 543 00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:34,530 Yeah. It's just... 544 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:39,700 you know, such an odd situation we're in with him. 545 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:44,930 '.. Investigation, that they will bring the offender to justice.' 546 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:47,650 They've got someone for those murders, by the look of it. 547 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:50,970 Yep. Guess who got him arrested. 548 00:29:51,020 --> 00:29:53,130 She didn't? 549 00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:55,210 Have they charged him? 550 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:59,170 No, not yet. I think they're still questioning him. 551 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:02,010 'A breakthrough for the detectives working on the spate of murders 552 00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:03,970 'which has shocked the local community...' 553 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:06,560 You are stopping tonight, aren't you? 554 00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:29,130 I knew Vicky Fleming. 555 00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:32,610 That woman. 556 00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:36,220 - Did you? - Yeah. 557 00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:39,220 Yeah, um... 558 00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:43,410 .. it was her I was having the fling with. 559 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:45,860 When everything went wrong for me. 560 00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:49,760 I used to work with her up at the building society. 561 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:54,050 What was she like? 562 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,970 - Horrible. - Really? 563 00:30:57,020 --> 00:30:58,460 Really? 564 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:04,240 Are you all right? 565 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:09,490 You won't tell Catherine, will you? 566 00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:12,500 No. 567 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:18,340 Um... 568 00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:22,140 Uh... 569 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,140 Urgh, I feel nauseated just thinking about it. 570 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,210 I thought I was in love with her. 571 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:47,250 Well, I was... I was in love with her. 572 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:49,500 It was just very short-lived. 573 00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:54,920 She... She was like this... 574 00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:58,140 She was very attractive. 575 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:00,770 But eventually I realised 576 00:32:00,820 --> 00:32:03,760 that s-she was missing something from up here. 577 00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:08,820 She kept going on, wanting me to leave Sue and the kids and... 578 00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:12,260 .. I couldn't. 579 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,300 Which really... 580 00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,460 I shouldn't have started it in the first place, I know that. 581 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:26,330 But I wasn't ready to leave my family for her. 582 00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:32,010 And she kept... she kept pushing and pushing and eventually I said no, 583 00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:33,930 I said no. 584 00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:36,490 If it came to the crunch I'd be stopping with Sue and the kids 585 00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:39,260 and so she... 586 00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:42,260 She blackmailed me. 587 00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:44,650 Blackmailed? 588 00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:47,650 Yeah, for a few weeks. 589 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,220 And then I said I wouldn't pay her any more, I couldn't. 590 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,020 She wanted 100 quid a week, every week, or she'd tell Sue. 591 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,090 I managed a few weeks, but then I... 592 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:04,260 I thought, "I don't want to live like this any more." 593 00:33:05,540 --> 00:33:08,060 So she... 594 00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:11,980 What, she what? 595 00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:19,020 Humiliated me. 596 00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:29,090 So at the minute, he's provided no alibis. 597 00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:30,570 Well, no useful alibis. 598 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:32,330 We're building up a picture of a loner 599 00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:34,170 with a fairly chaotic sort of lifestyle. 600 00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:35,770 He was working recently as a driver, 601 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:39,050 but he got sacked for drinking and aggressive behaviour. 602 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,890 The good news this morning from Forensics - 603 00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:43,330 we've got strands of hair matching that of Ana Vasalescu 604 00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:46,050 found in his van. Now, he's denied knowing Ana, 605 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,450 so let's see what he's got to say about that. 606 00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,810 Telecoms - Lynn Dewhurst's mobile number was found 607 00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:53,530 in his contacts on his phone. Again, he's denied knowing her, 608 00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:56,050 so let's see if he can enlighten us there. 609 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,570 Then ANPR puts him, well, puts his van, 610 00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:00,650 within a mile of where the bodies were found 611 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:03,450 on the second and fourth murders, Aurelia and Vicky. 612 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:05,690 We've also got a witness from a house-to-house 613 00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:07,410 reporting seeing a white van in the area 614 00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:08,890 around the time Ana was murdered. 615 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:11,530 There was an appeal in the media for the driver to come forward, 616 00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:14,090 no-one did. A white van was also reported in the vicinity 617 00:34:14,140 --> 00:34:16,290 prior to Vicky Fleming's flat being torched. 618 00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:18,930 So! Let's get back up to Halifax 619 00:34:18,980 --> 00:34:22,620 and see if he's got anything he'd like to share with us today, hm? 620 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:26,840 Am I overreacting? 621 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:31,450 He tried to kill you, Catherine. You're not overreacting. 622 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:33,730 We'll send it all off for fingerprints 623 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:35,650 and I'll ring the prison liaison officer 624 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:37,210 to talk to someone at Gravesend. 625 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:39,130 Let's find out who visits him, 626 00:34:39,180 --> 00:34:41,890 who he writes to, who he has phone calls with. 627 00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:44,450 If he's behind it, he'll be dealt with. 628 00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:46,240 If it's a crank... 629 00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:49,730 .. it's a shame they've got nothing better to do. 630 00:34:49,780 --> 00:34:52,050 Try not to let it get you down. 631 00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:55,490 - It's just this week, it's always... - I know. 632 00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:58,940 - It's bad enough... - I know. - .. without... - I know. 633 00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:01,060 I do know. 634 00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:08,290 Did you have a nice birthday yesterday? 635 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:10,010 Yeah, it was OK. 636 00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:12,890 What did you get? 637 00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:15,570 Skateboard, elbow pads, 638 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:17,500 knee pads. 639 00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:21,130 Helmet. 640 00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:23,330 New football. 641 00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:26,210 - 20 quid off me Uncle Daniel. - Yep. 642 00:35:26,260 --> 00:35:28,850 30 quid off me grandad and me Auntie Ros. 643 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,090 That's 50 quid. 644 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:35,490 Winnie across made me a cake, as well as me Auntie Clare. 645 00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:38,540 That's two cakes. 646 00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:45,060 I got a Scalextric, but me granny put it in t'bin. 647 00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:48,220 Why? 648 00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:51,370 Because it were from me dad. 649 00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:52,900 Oh, no. 650 00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:57,250 And how do you feel about that? 651 00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:58,810 I dunno. 652 00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:01,090 I really wanted to play with it, 653 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:03,890 but I could see how upset she was. 654 00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:06,540 Gosh, that must've cost a lot of money. 655 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:10,400 Yeah, me Uncle Daniel said it would have done. 656 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:12,610 Perhaps, I don't know, 657 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:15,650 it's his way of trying to tell you all how sorry he is 658 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:17,500 about what happened. 659 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:21,490 - Do you think he is? - Well, why else would he send it? 660 00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:24,450 I don't think they get very much money in prison. 661 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,300 It must have meant a lot to him to do that. 662 00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:31,410 You know, after that last conversation we had, 663 00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:32,690 I googled your dad. 664 00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:34,730 And I can't believe he was responsible 665 00:36:34,780 --> 00:36:37,530 for half the things he was sent to prison for. 666 00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:38,940 Why? 667 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:42,700 Because he had such a kind face. 668 00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:51,210 Here you are. 669 00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:52,610 Ta. 670 00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:55,090 I'm just suggesting that it's odd... John? 671 00:36:55,140 --> 00:36:56,690 No, thanks. 672 00:36:56,740 --> 00:36:59,290 .. for someone with such a disorganised lifestyle 673 00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:00,970 who lives in chaos and squalor, 674 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:04,130 spends half his life pissed out of his tiny fucking skull, 675 00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:06,610 not to leave any DNA on any of the sites. 676 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:09,570 Are we really believing that this lad is that forensically aware? 677 00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:10,730 And that capable? 678 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:13,890 You don't know these days. A lonely, little, twisted mind like that 679 00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:17,450 has probably absorbed every episode of CSI they've ever shot. 680 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:21,530 Well, that aside, boss, what I still can't square is Vicky Fleming. 681 00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:23,250 Vicky was not a prostitute. 682 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:24,890 There are significant differences, 683 00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:27,330 and we've made this leap, we've made an assumption... 684 00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:28,890 I'm ruling nothing out. 685 00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:31,730 He must have been in that flat. He must have burnt that flat out. 686 00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:34,850 I don't care what the fire service says, it's just... 687 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:36,690 It's too much of a coincidence, what, 688 00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:40,090 to be an oil lamp she's left on? Come on, he was burning evidence 689 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:42,570 and that is so different from... 690 00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:44,730 Well, that is someone who knows her. 691 00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:48,340 It's personal, right? And the others, they weren't personal. 692 00:37:55,580 --> 00:38:01,130 I need you to explain why, and it's two things we've uncovered - 693 00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:05,570 yesterday you told us that you'd never met Ana Vasalescu. 694 00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:07,050 Do you remember? 695 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,450 You also told us that no-one else had driven your van 696 00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:11,900 in the last six months. Yeah? 697 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:15,660 So, Sean... 698 00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:19,610 .. can you tell me what your response is 699 00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:22,050 if I tell you that our forensic people have found strands 700 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,890 of Ana Vasalescu's hair, her DNA, 701 00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:26,900 in your van? 702 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:35,140 No comment. 703 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:39,660 Hmm. 704 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:45,930 And yesterday, you told us that you don't know Lynn Dewhurst. 705 00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:47,650 Do you remember? 706 00:38:50,060 --> 00:38:51,890 Could you explain to me why, then, Sean, 707 00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:54,050 you've got Lynn Dewhurst's mobile phone number 708 00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,640 in your contacts on your mobile phone? 709 00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,770 No... no comment. 710 00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:22,170 When I said "lunch", I had somewhere a bit more salubrious in mind. 711 00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:23,970 I've only got 15 minutes. 712 00:39:24,020 --> 00:39:25,690 How are you? 713 00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:29,170 - How are YOU? - I'm all right. I'll cut to the chase, eh? 714 00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:31,930 Can I have some tea, love? And a fish finger butty. 715 00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:33,410 Are you eating? 716 00:39:33,460 --> 00:39:35,930 Yeah, I'll have the same. Thanks. 717 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:38,530 It's a bit like speed dating, innit? 718 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:40,690 Not that I've ever been speed dating. 719 00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:42,690 Or that WE'RE dating, obviously. 720 00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,330 - But I've seen it on t'telly. - Tell me about Sean Balmforth. 721 00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:47,050 Oh... 722 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:48,570 Really? 723 00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:50,650 All day yesterday? Your lot? 724 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,250 Well, best part of two hours, giving it... 725 00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:54,770 What do you know? 726 00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:56,570 Nothing. I told 'em. 727 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,410 Except... 728 00:39:58,460 --> 00:40:00,010 I wouldn't put it past him. 729 00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:02,690 Which is a pretty damning thing to say about somebody, innit? 730 00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:04,940 - Really? - Well, God knows. 731 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,330 Helen never gave up on anybody. 732 00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:10,210 Ever. 733 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:12,530 We condemn the sin, not the sinner. 734 00:40:12,580 --> 00:40:14,050 But Sean... 735 00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:17,160 .. he's a sad lad. 736 00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:21,330 Course, it's nothing to do with me, I'm just being nosey. 737 00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:22,770 How's our Annie getting on? 738 00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:24,450 Really well. 739 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:27,130 - She's a smart kid. - Good. 740 00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:29,690 - How's things at home? - Oh, good. 741 00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:31,420 - Good. - Yeah. 742 00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:36,960 - Yeah. - She's drinking, isn't she? 743 00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:41,530 Last thing I want to do is get her into trouble. 744 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:43,090 You won't, not with me. 745 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:45,010 That's why I rang you. 746 00:40:45,620 --> 00:40:48,450 I don't know why she's started again. 747 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,170 One minute she was all, "I'm going to be a regular, 748 00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:54,010 "I'm going to be detective, I'm going to sail through the ranks." 749 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:56,370 I thought she'd taken to it like a duck to water. 750 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:58,810 And she was thrilled to bits when she made that connection 751 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:00,530 with the Vicky Fleming woman. 752 00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:02,050 And then... 753 00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:07,650 She used to drink a lot, at college. 754 00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:10,640 Daft amount, you know, like they do, students. 755 00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:13,490 She got alcohol poisoning once. 756 00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,210 Silly bugger. 757 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:18,530 But then, when Helen became ill, 758 00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:20,610 she seemed to stop, overnight. 759 00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:22,690 She became very sensible. 760 00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:26,610 All through the illness, even after what happened, 761 00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:28,800 last year, wi' them weirdos. 762 00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:32,820 So I don't know if something's happened at work. 763 00:41:34,420 --> 00:41:36,770 - Not that I know of. - Well... 764 00:41:36,820 --> 00:41:39,650 - has somebody upset her? - Have you asked her? 765 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,010 Oh, she doesn't talk to me about stuff. 766 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:45,540 She might have had a conversation with Helen about it, not me. 767 00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:49,290 Does she drink with other people, or is it...? 768 00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:52,020 No, no, it's all been on her own at home. 769 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:56,100 OK. 770 00:41:58,340 --> 00:42:00,850 Happens she needs a good night out. 771 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:04,770 Yeah? Well, we could all do with one o' them, couldn't we? 772 00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:06,490 I'll talk to her. 773 00:42:07,820 --> 00:42:09,560 Are you all right? 774 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:15,640 It was Ryan's birthday yesterday. 775 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:19,380 Becky died six weeks after he was born, so, you know... 776 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:24,460 .. it's just something we have to get through in our house. 777 00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:30,650 I were thinking... 778 00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,240 you know what you told me last night? 779 00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:35,100 Yeah? 780 00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:38,170 I've said I won't say anything to our Catherine, 781 00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:40,610 and I shan't, I've promised, 782 00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:43,170 but don't you think you SHOULD tell the police? 783 00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:46,490 I'm just thinking that whoever... 784 00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:48,690 killed her, 785 00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:51,280 she might have been blackmailing HIM. 786 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,530 But... 787 00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:55,450 isn't this bloke a serial killer? 788 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:56,610 On the news they're saying 789 00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:59,490 she didn't fit the same profile as the others. 790 00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:01,370 It might be a different killer to the others, 791 00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:04,530 and they need to know that. 792 00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:06,610 Well, the police obviously don't think that. 793 00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:08,930 They've... they've linked them. 794 00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:12,690 And they've got this fella in custody now anyway, so... 795 00:43:12,740 --> 00:43:15,140 Yeah, but what if... What if... 796 00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:17,770 Oh... 797 00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:19,360 I don't know. 798 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:22,330 Look... 799 00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:24,570 if I went down there and offered them information, 800 00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:26,890 first of all, they'd think I was a crank. 801 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:29,140 And they'd be laughing at me. 802 00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:32,410 Then I'd have to go through it all. 803 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:34,600 Again and again and again... 804 00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:41,620 You don't know what that does to me, Clare. 805 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:48,330 Hiya, love. 806 00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:54,090 Sarge, have you got a minute? 807 00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:55,890 Hello, Steph. 808 00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:57,530 I think that... 809 00:43:57,580 --> 00:43:59,410 I think I've decided that I should resign. 810 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:01,610 I've spoken to the specials liaison officer. 811 00:44:01,660 --> 00:44:04,090 I don't think you should resign. 812 00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:07,610 - Well, it looks like they're going to charge this bloke. - Does it? 813 00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:09,330 They've had him in custody for two days. 814 00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:11,530 I've just heard they're applying to the magistrate 815 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:12,650 for a three-day lie down. 816 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,810 And I let him slip through my fingers, so yeah. 817 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:17,530 Steph, how long have you been in the job? 818 00:44:19,260 --> 00:44:21,330 Specials? About six month. 819 00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:24,930 You made a mistake. 820 00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:28,530 I suspect you listened to Bryony, who IS a lazy sod, 821 00:44:28,580 --> 00:44:31,660 and whose first and last instinct is to do the minimum. 822 00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:35,490 She's the one who should be offering to resign, not you. 823 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:37,250 She's been in the job five years 824 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,930 and she knows no more now than she did then. 825 00:44:39,980 --> 00:44:44,010 I suspect you wanted to do more, but you let yourself be led by her. 826 00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:45,260 Yeah? 827 00:44:46,940 --> 00:44:48,650 Go with your own instincts in future, 828 00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:51,010 stick your neck out now and again. 829 00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:52,330 Yeah, Leonie's a prostitute, 830 00:44:52,380 --> 00:44:54,530 but she's also a vulnerable 19-year-old 831 00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:57,680 who is where she is because she's had a shit life. 832 00:44:58,940 --> 00:45:00,480 Don't resign. 833 00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:04,140 I'll be really pissed off if you resign. 834 00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:21,730 Last week, in assembly... 835 00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:24,860 Mrs Beresford was on about forgiveness. 836 00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:29,960 Was she? 837 00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:34,900 She said that we had to find it in our hearts to forgive people things. 838 00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:37,610 Good. 839 00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:40,200 Especially if they say they're sorry. 840 00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:43,010 That's right. 841 00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:45,600 However angry or upset we might feel. 842 00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:50,250 Well, yeah. There you go, eh? 843 00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:55,090 So I was thinking, maybe it was his way of trying to say sorry 844 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:59,380 for what he did, sending me that Scalextric, me dad. 845 00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:05,090 Ryan, you've got to stop calling him your dad. 846 00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:08,210 You've got to stop thinking about this man as your dad. 847 00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:10,460 A dad is someone who's there. 848 00:46:11,540 --> 00:46:13,020 Every day. 849 00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:18,290 Someone who cares about you, who loves you, who helps you, who... 850 00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:20,570 w-who shows you how to... 851 00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:22,650 tie your laces or pump up your tyres, 852 00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:26,610 someone who can take you places, someone who knows who you are. 853 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:29,610 It's not someone who lies to you about living on a narrow boat 854 00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:30,930 and pours petrol over you 855 00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:34,050 and kicks the living daylights out of your grandmother. 856 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:37,650 But perhaps he would have liked to have done them things with me 857 00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:39,850 - if he hadn't been in prison. - Yeah, but Ryan, 858 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,570 perhaps if he was the kind of man who cared about other people enough, 859 00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:46,720 he'd never have been in prison in the first place. 860 00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:31,770 Amanda! 861 00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:33,140 Ama...! 862 00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:41,300 What?! 863 00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:45,890 - Ben, open the door. - Kids, in the other room, come on. 864 00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:48,090 - Quick, quick, quick. - He lives here too! 865 00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:49,490 Go in there. Ben... 866 00:47:49,540 --> 00:47:51,850 - Go on, in there. - Where will he go? 867 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:55,130 He'll be fine, he'll go to his mother's, go in there. Both of you! 868 00:47:55,180 --> 00:47:58,610 - I don't want him not to be here, even if he is a pig. - Amanda! 869 00:47:58,660 --> 00:48:00,660 Go in there, both of you. 870 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:07,920 Oh, bollocks! 871 00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:11,370 You're upsetting these children! 872 00:48:11,420 --> 00:48:14,050 I'M upsetting 'em?! You're the one that's upsetting them! 873 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,770 You need to leave us alone. 874 00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:17,890 - You need to go away. - Fuck you! 875 00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:19,940 - Fuck YOU! - Fuck you! 876 00:48:23,980 --> 00:48:26,180 Come on, let's get you inside. 877 00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,250 Hiya. 878 00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:56,040 Are you all right? 879 00:49:01,180 --> 00:49:04,180 I'm sorry that I get wound up about stuff, but... 880 00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:07,770 .. it's only cos I love you and I care about you, 881 00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:09,130 you know that, don't you? 882 00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:10,420 Yup. 883 00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:17,580 Right, come on. 884 00:49:35,780 --> 00:49:37,380 Love you. 885 00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:42,020 I love you. 886 00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:47,410 Night-night. 887 00:49:59,780 --> 00:50:02,370 What's happened to t'front of your car? 888 00:50:02,420 --> 00:50:03,970 I just... 889 00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:05,620 scraped a wall. 890 00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:12,040 I hope you weren't drinking and driving. Were you? 891 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,040 You will get caught, you know, Daryl. 892 00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:22,370 And who's going to pay for that getting fixed? 893 00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:25,370 It's reight, it still goes. 894 00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:28,490 It won't pass its MOT, love, not like that. 895 00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:30,740 And what if you'd hit someone? 896 00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:43,690 - What've you got for me? - I think you'll be pleased. 897 00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:46,980 I didn't, and I told you I wouldn't, do anything illegal. 898 00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:51,730 You're not going to tell me you didn't do owt. 899 00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:53,580 I did do something. 900 00:50:55,660 --> 00:50:57,210 Did you know it was his birthday? 901 00:50:57,260 --> 00:50:59,010 The day before yesterday? 902 00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:02,250 I only found out two days before. 903 00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:04,170 He was... He was ten. 904 00:51:05,380 --> 00:51:06,980 Ten years old. 905 00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:10,290 OK. 906 00:51:10,340 --> 00:51:12,340 So I sent him a present. 907 00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:17,850 I left it on the doorstep with a card inside. 908 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,300 From you. 909 00:51:20,260 --> 00:51:22,410 It was expensive, something I knew he'd like. 910 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:24,130 Racing cars. And he did. 911 00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:26,970 Of course, she wanted to put it in the bin 912 00:51:27,020 --> 00:51:29,570 when she knew it was from you, and she did put it in the bin, 913 00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:31,570 and, of course, that made him angry and upset. 914 00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:33,960 - How do you know? - He told me. 915 00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:38,800 And it's made him start to ask even more questions. 916 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,690 I suggested to him that you sent it 917 00:51:42,740 --> 00:51:44,970 because you're sorry for what you did. 918 00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:47,450 I think that's a very powerful message. 919 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:53,450 If we can subtly undermine all the messages she reinforces every day, 920 00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:57,210 it may be a slow process, but if we persist, and we will, 921 00:51:57,260 --> 00:52:00,460 - surely that's better than... - I don't understand. 922 00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:04,100 OK. 923 00:52:05,860 --> 00:52:08,970 Am I...? Am I being thick, 924 00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:12,020 or are you just not getting the fact that there's been a development? 925 00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:17,020 This bitch, this nasty ugly whore. 926 00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:22,140 Sorry, but she... 927 00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:25,520 She's killed my mother. 928 00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:30,620 And you think buying him expensive toys is some sort of solution? 929 00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:33,770 I-I don't know that I can do anything 930 00:52:33,820 --> 00:52:35,690 - about what she did to your mother. - But... 931 00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:39,540 - What I can do with Ryan... - That is what I asked you to do. 932 00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:44,250 It may not have been her. 933 00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:46,890 - They've arrested someone. - I know they've arrested someone. 934 00:52:46,940 --> 00:52:49,480 I saw it on t'news, Frances, so what? 935 00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:52,380 Frances... 936 00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:58,330 .. you're sweet, but you're naive. 937 00:52:58,380 --> 00:53:02,330 She has killed my mother to piss on me, 938 00:53:02,380 --> 00:53:04,050 just cos she can. 939 00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:07,250 Like me living in this shit-hole isn't enough for her. 940 00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:09,810 And she has disguised it by killing them others first, 941 00:53:09,860 --> 00:53:12,450 and now her little police buddies are helping her cover it up 942 00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:14,970 by arresting some no-mates who they can pin anything on. 943 00:53:15,020 --> 00:53:17,090 Do you really believe they could do that? 944 00:53:17,140 --> 00:53:19,810 Oh, I don't know what else to say to you. 945 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:24,500 You've led a sheltered life, it's not your fault. 946 00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:28,410 It's why you're so good and kind. 947 00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:31,260 It's why you always see the best in people. 948 00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:33,780 Frances... 949 00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:41,770 But some people, and she is one of 'em, 950 00:53:41,820 --> 00:53:45,130 they're craftier than you'd ever give 'em credit for, 951 00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:47,530 and they get themselves into positions of authority 952 00:53:47,580 --> 00:53:49,920 so they can get away with stuff. 953 00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,500 I don't know what else to say. I... 954 00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:58,570 I thought you got it. 955 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:06,130 The priority for me is working towards Ryan 956 00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:09,090 not accepting the demonised version of you that she reinforces... 957 00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:10,450 The best way to achieve that... 958 00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,610 I told him I didn't believe you did half of what... 959 00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:15,130 As far as I'm concerned, the best way to achieve that... 960 00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:18,490 - .. he listened, he thought about it, and it sank in. - .. is to remove her. 961 00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:20,210 From the picture. 962 00:54:21,260 --> 00:54:22,410 Reinforce that. 963 00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:25,970 - But what you're suggesting is illegal... - Fuck illegal! 964 00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:29,580 When has doing anything legally got anybody like me anywhere? 965 00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:36,180 Frances, you're going to have to do what I've asked you to do. 966 00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:41,850 Or what I'm thinking is... 967 00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:45,940 .. this... 968 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:50,850 .. you and me... 969 00:54:53,380 --> 00:54:56,250 .. it's not going to work, I'm sorry. 970 00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:59,370 I thought you understood me. I really did. 971 00:54:59,420 --> 00:55:02,570 I do! I do understand you, don't say that, please. 972 00:55:02,620 --> 00:55:04,810 Please, I understand you better than anyone. 973 00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:08,100 Do you understand what I'm saying, then? - I... - Nothing is illegal. 974 00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:15,420 It's just a word people use to control other people with. 975 00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:21,090 She has stolen my son and murdered my mother. 976 00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:24,140 That is illegal and nobody has raised an eyebrow. 977 00:55:25,460 --> 00:55:27,250 And believe me, 978 00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,890 it is not that lad they've arrested that's killed these women. 979 00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,540 Look at him, picture of him, on t'telly. 980 00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:35,380 He hasn't got it in him. 981 00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:39,060 Frances... 982 00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:43,370 .. if you're not on my side, who is? 983 00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:51,460 What would you like me to do? 984 00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,130 I'd like you to use your imagination. 985 00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:58,650 - I have been doing. - Yeah, you have. 986 00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:00,610 Brilliantly. 987 00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:03,860 I was so impressed, the way you got into that school. 988 00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:07,570 But I need more. 989 00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:11,100 I need you to take it further. 990 00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:14,730 I wasn't anticipating it any more than you were. 991 00:56:14,780 --> 00:56:18,730 I didn't know she'd go out of her way to target my mother, 992 00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:20,250 but she did. 993 00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:24,570 And now they're going to go out of their way to let her walk, 994 00:56:24,620 --> 00:56:26,620 and I can't do anything. 995 00:56:27,620 --> 00:56:29,090 But you can. 996 00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:34,730 If our two hearts do beat as one, 997 00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:37,180 and I like to think that they do... 998 00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:40,860 .. then you know what I want. 999 00:56:44,380 --> 00:56:46,820 You know what I want, Frances. 1000 00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:51,850 In this trouble town 1001 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:55,580 Trouble I've found 1002 00:56:57,580 --> 00:57:00,090 In this trouble town 1003 00:57:00,140 --> 00:57:03,420 Word sure gets round 1004 00:57:09,940 --> 00:57:11,970 Stuck in speed-bump city 1005 00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:14,170 Where the only thing that's pretty 1006 00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:16,420 Is the thought of getting out.