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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,396 --> 00:00:29,064 Get him! Get him! 2 00:00:30,932 --> 00:00:31,932 Ready! 3 00:00:33,602 --> 00:00:35,070 You're going down. Set. Hike. 4 00:00:46,781 --> 00:00:47,781 Damn. 5 00:00:47,849 --> 00:00:49,718 Did that hurt? 6 00:00:49,851 --> 00:00:53,688 Get up, you ain't no carpet king, you're a queen. 7 00:00:53,822 --> 00:00:55,056 Get up! 8 00:00:56,225 --> 00:00:57,292 Time-out. 9 00:00:57,426 --> 00:00:58,793 Get up, man. 10 00:00:59,694 --> 00:01:01,230 I think his nose is broke. 11 00:01:01,363 --> 00:01:04,499 You can get him for me. Finish this thing off. 12 00:01:04,633 --> 00:01:06,235 You gonna finish the game. 13 00:01:06,368 --> 00:01:09,371 Next touchdown wins, we got the ball, so you man up. 14 00:01:09,504 --> 00:01:10,772 I'm a little banged up here. 15 00:01:10,905 --> 00:01:12,607 You know why you got 25 years? 16 00:01:12,741 --> 00:01:14,276 Yeah, because I refused to testify 17 00:01:14,409 --> 00:01:16,221 against anybody whose last name ended in a vowel. 18 00:01:16,245 --> 00:01:19,814 No, you got 25 years because you're a quitter. 19 00:01:19,948 --> 00:01:22,317 When things get tough, you look for shortcuts. You quit. 20 00:01:22,451 --> 00:01:25,187 You quit on your family, you quit on your friends, 21 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:26,755 you quit on God. 22 00:01:26,888 --> 00:01:29,858 And that's because you ain't got no heart. 23 00:01:29,991 --> 00:01:31,569 Yeah, that's right, I called you a quitter. 24 00:01:31,593 --> 00:01:33,728 What you gonna do about it? 25 00:01:33,862 --> 00:01:36,998 If that don't sit well with you, prove me wrong. 26 00:01:39,734 --> 00:01:47,709 Barry Minkow, for once in your life, don't take a shortcut. 27 00:01:47,842 --> 00:01:50,212 Take the pain and help this team win. 28 00:01:50,345 --> 00:01:56,518 Well, you know, I think we're all born with certain genes. 29 00:01:56,651 --> 00:01:58,320 I think Barry was missing one. 30 00:01:58,453 --> 00:02:00,589 It's got to be something deep-seated in Barry. 31 00:02:00,722 --> 00:02:03,792 Barry did what he did. I mean, nobody really put him up to it. 32 00:02:03,925 --> 00:02:05,760 Barry could convince anybody of anything, 33 00:02:05,894 --> 00:02:07,696 and he was very, very good at it. 34 00:02:07,829 --> 00:02:09,431 From the moment he shook my hand... 35 00:02:09,564 --> 00:02:10,932 He's a sociopath. 36 00:02:11,065 --> 00:02:14,503 I thought this was the entrepreneur of the year. 37 00:02:14,636 --> 00:02:17,306 He was almost incapable of not lying. 38 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:19,241 And, you know, I give him credit for this 39 00:02:19,374 --> 00:02:21,410 tremendous scam that he pulled at that time. 40 00:02:21,543 --> 00:02:22,744 He had so much charisma... 41 00:02:22,877 --> 00:02:24,913 I've never seen anybody like Barry. 42 00:02:25,046 --> 00:02:28,116 That you believed everything. Everything. 43 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:29,918 He could sell ice to Eskimos. 44 00:02:30,051 --> 00:02:32,954 Barry reinvented himself. 45 00:02:33,087 --> 00:02:37,091 You know, for a young guy, it was pretty amazing what he pulled off. 46 00:02:37,226 --> 00:02:39,494 JERRI: He didn't want his lights turned off. 47 00:02:41,162 --> 00:02:43,031 He didn't want to be his dad. 48 00:02:44,333 --> 00:02:46,401 Hey, pally boy. BARRY: Hey, Pop. 49 00:02:49,671 --> 00:02:51,072 How'd you do today? 50 00:02:52,407 --> 00:02:53,942 Ah, not bad. 51 00:02:54,075 --> 00:02:58,780 Outfitted the YMCA down the street with a half a dozen gym fans. 52 00:02:58,913 --> 00:03:00,181 Half a dozen? 53 00:03:00,315 --> 00:03:03,184 Good thing it gets hot in the Valley, huh? 54 00:03:03,318 --> 00:03:04,886 That's pretty good, right? 55 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:09,391 Let me give you some advice, kiddo. 56 00:03:09,524 --> 00:03:13,262 Never work for somebody else if you can help it. 57 00:03:16,398 --> 00:03:18,800 Now get in the house and wash up. 58 00:03:25,574 --> 00:03:26,641 Move. Jeez. 59 00:03:26,775 --> 00:03:28,310 Go away. 60 00:03:28,443 --> 00:03:30,221 ROBERT: My commission check is gonna be larger this week. 61 00:03:30,245 --> 00:03:32,013 CAROL: Enough to pay the gas bill? 62 00:03:32,146 --> 00:03:33,382 (MUSIC PLAYING OVER TELEVISION) 63 00:03:33,515 --> 00:03:34,616 ROBERT: It'll be fine. 64 00:03:34,749 --> 00:03:36,318 Mom said no MTV. 65 00:03:36,451 --> 00:03:37,319 Ow! 66 00:03:37,452 --> 00:03:39,220 Knock it off! Shut up. 67 00:03:39,354 --> 00:03:41,923 ROBERT: What are you talking about? I'm doing the best I can. 68 00:03:44,426 --> 00:03:46,437 They do this every night. When is this going to stop? 69 00:03:46,461 --> 00:03:51,366 When someone in this family figures outhow to earn some real money. 70 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:53,143 FRANZESE: That was it. He wanted to make money and that was it. 71 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:54,536 MIKEY: He wanted millions. 72 00:03:54,669 --> 00:03:55,713 FRANZESE: That's what drove him. 73 00:03:55,737 --> 00:03:57,105 JERRI: He wanted the girls. 74 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:59,308 FRANZESE: He wanted people to love and adore him. 75 00:03:59,441 --> 00:04:03,244 JERRI: And the girls only wanted you if you had a red Ferrari. 76 00:04:18,493 --> 00:04:19,928 Hi, Mindy. 77 00:04:20,729 --> 00:04:22,964 Hi... Barry. 78 00:04:28,370 --> 00:04:30,080 I'm telling you, man, I'm making things change. 79 00:04:30,104 --> 00:04:31,573 That so, big guy? 80 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:33,308 Yeah, that's so. Check it out. 81 00:04:36,845 --> 00:04:38,179 When'd that happen? 82 00:04:38,313 --> 00:04:40,353 That's five days a week for three months at the gym. 83 00:04:43,352 --> 00:04:46,888 See, look, I might not have Matt Maple's money. 84 00:04:47,021 --> 00:04:48,466 I can't throw a football like Bobby Biddelo. 85 00:04:48,490 --> 00:04:50,925 No. But I can look like Lou Ferrigno. 86 00:04:51,059 --> 00:04:52,494 I'm going after the three Ps, Mikey. 87 00:04:52,627 --> 00:04:54,262 What are the three Ps? 88 00:04:54,396 --> 00:04:59,968 Position plus possession equals popularity. 89 00:05:01,836 --> 00:05:02,956 I'm gonna build a new Barry. 90 00:05:04,406 --> 00:05:06,575 Well, how's all this supposed to happen? 91 00:05:06,708 --> 00:05:09,310 I'm gonna start a business, I'm gonna keep working out, 92 00:05:09,444 --> 00:05:11,513 I'm gonna make a ton of money 93 00:05:11,646 --> 00:05:14,182 and then I'm gonna have everything that I want. 94 00:05:16,418 --> 00:05:18,487 JERRI: He wanted to be a star. 95 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:21,490 MIKEY: It could have been a fabulous story. 96 00:05:27,929 --> 00:05:30,499 Barry! Get to it! 97 00:05:30,632 --> 00:05:33,702 See, the way it goes is you work off your membership fee 98 00:05:33,835 --> 00:05:36,605 by working off your membership fee. 99 00:05:51,352 --> 00:05:53,455 Hi, Mom. 100 00:05:53,588 --> 00:05:55,590 Excuse me, could you just hold on for one second. 101 00:05:55,724 --> 00:05:57,325 I'll be right back with you. 102 00:05:57,459 --> 00:05:59,728 Sweetheart, listen, I heard on your last run 103 00:05:59,861 --> 00:06:01,205 you brought the degreaser, you brought the sanitizer, 104 00:06:01,229 --> 00:06:02,397 but, Barry, you forgot the... 105 00:06:02,531 --> 00:06:03,898 Scotchgard. Scotchgard. 106 00:06:04,032 --> 00:06:05,634 You can never, never forget that. I know. 107 00:06:05,767 --> 00:06:08,570 Barry, we want to sell Scotchgard. Scotchgard. I know. 108 00:06:08,703 --> 00:06:11,372 Listen, you gotta get on this one, kiddo. You're a terrific worker 109 00:06:11,506 --> 00:06:13,283 but I don't want my boss to think... Excuse me... 110 00:06:13,307 --> 00:06:14,707 You don't want your boss to think... 111 00:06:14,809 --> 00:06:16,120 I just don't want my boss to think 112 00:06:16,144 --> 00:06:17,488 that you're just here because of me. 113 00:06:17,512 --> 00:06:19,056 That would be terrible. That would be nepotism. 114 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,348 I'm a good worker. Just... 115 00:06:20,482 --> 00:06:22,451 Yeah, go back and work. Go, go, go. 116 00:06:22,584 --> 00:06:24,018 Sorry. 117 00:06:26,721 --> 00:06:27,721 Hello? 118 00:06:34,028 --> 00:06:35,564 Whoa. 119 00:06:35,697 --> 00:06:36,998 That guy juices. 120 00:06:38,099 --> 00:06:40,401 What, you mean steroids? 121 00:06:40,535 --> 00:06:43,538 No, like, I think he drinks a lot of V8. 122 00:06:43,672 --> 00:06:45,373 Yeah, I mean steroids. 123 00:06:47,776 --> 00:06:49,277 Awesome. 124 00:06:56,918 --> 00:06:58,820 Hey, how do you get so big? 125 00:06:58,953 --> 00:07:00,555 How do you think? 126 00:07:02,524 --> 00:07:04,125 Is there... 127 00:07:04,258 --> 00:07:07,596 Is there any way I could buy some 'roids off of you? 128 00:07:07,729 --> 00:07:09,998 How you gonna pay, kid? 129 00:07:10,131 --> 00:07:13,267 I got a part-time job cleaning carpets. I can pay. 130 00:07:16,204 --> 00:07:18,573 I'll tell you what. I'll swap you. 131 00:07:18,707 --> 00:07:22,611 A carpet cleaning for some 'roids. 132 00:07:24,078 --> 00:07:25,413 Deal. 133 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,516 We're done, kid. 134 00:07:32,921 --> 00:07:34,689 Nice job, kid. 135 00:07:35,857 --> 00:07:37,258 Definitely worth some of these. 136 00:07:42,463 --> 00:07:43,832 Thanks. 137 00:07:43,965 --> 00:07:45,366 Hey, um... 138 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:47,268 Hey, what is all this stuff? 139 00:07:47,401 --> 00:07:49,037 Just call it my inventory. 140 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:51,773 Ah. Gotcha. 141 00:07:53,675 --> 00:07:57,746 Yeah, as soon as I figure out how to get my own steam cleaner, 142 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,356 I'm gonna go into business for myself. 143 00:07:59,380 --> 00:08:01,983 How much do one of them things cost? 144 00:08:02,116 --> 00:08:03,652 Like a thousand bucks. 145 00:08:03,785 --> 00:08:05,219 Tell you what. 146 00:08:12,393 --> 00:08:16,230 A thousand cash for equipment. Six bills for capital. 147 00:08:19,834 --> 00:08:21,269 Now you're in business, kid. 148 00:08:24,505 --> 00:08:25,506 Um... 149 00:08:28,977 --> 00:08:30,779 Oh, you'll pay me back. 150 00:08:30,912 --> 00:08:33,514 Interest only. $200 a week. 151 00:08:33,648 --> 00:08:36,250 What are you, some kind of loan shark? 152 00:08:36,384 --> 00:08:39,020 I'm a businessman, kid. 153 00:08:39,153 --> 00:08:40,689 You want in? 154 00:08:42,023 --> 00:08:44,993 Yeah. Yeah, I want in. 155 00:08:45,126 --> 00:08:48,262 ♪ It's another great day 156 00:08:48,396 --> 00:08:51,499 ♪ It's another great day 157 00:08:51,633 --> 00:08:54,168 ♪ It's another fine moment 158 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:58,239 ♪ And it keeps getting better 159 00:08:58,372 --> 00:09:01,876 ♪ Yeah, I'm making it happen 160 00:09:03,411 --> 00:09:07,248 ♪ This is where it all begins 161 00:09:09,050 --> 00:09:11,352 ♪ In my perfect world 162 00:09:12,854 --> 00:09:14,488 ♪ Perfect world 163 00:09:15,556 --> 00:09:18,226 ♪ I can't wait to wake up 164 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:22,731 ♪ I can't wait to wake up 165 00:09:22,864 --> 00:09:26,467 ♪ And do it again 166 00:09:27,501 --> 00:09:30,872 ♪ This is where it all begins 167 00:09:33,107 --> 00:09:35,443 ♪ In my perfect world 168 00:09:36,978 --> 00:09:38,847 ♪ Perfect world 169 00:09:40,348 --> 00:09:43,017 ♪ Perfect world 170 00:09:43,151 --> 00:09:44,218 ♪ I can't wait to... ♪ 171 00:09:44,352 --> 00:09:46,054 Yes, hello, there. 172 00:09:46,187 --> 00:09:50,692 I just had my carpets cleaned by this company called ZZZZ Best. 173 00:09:50,825 --> 00:09:54,528 It's owned by this wonderful kid who is only 16. 174 00:09:54,663 --> 00:09:56,665 You should do a story on him. 175 00:09:56,798 --> 00:10:01,369 All I see on the news are stories about kids on drugs and in gangs. 176 00:10:01,502 --> 00:10:05,173 This young man is a role model. 177 00:10:05,306 --> 00:10:07,075 What's that? 178 00:10:07,208 --> 00:10:09,010 All right. 179 00:10:09,143 --> 00:10:11,312 Yes, ZZZZ Best. 180 00:10:11,445 --> 00:10:13,547 Four Zs. With four Zs. 181 00:10:13,682 --> 00:10:17,786 Okay. Thank you. Goodbye. 182 00:10:17,919 --> 00:10:21,222 Thank you, Grandma. You're the best. 183 00:10:21,355 --> 00:10:23,324 What, you can't stay and visit? 184 00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:24,601 I wish I could. I've got so much to do. 185 00:10:24,625 --> 00:10:26,327 But I'll come by later. 186 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:28,572 Can you make me some of that spaghetti that you make so good? 187 00:10:28,596 --> 00:10:30,298 With the meatballs, too. 188 00:10:30,431 --> 00:10:34,268 I'm just so proud of my son. He did this all himself. 189 00:10:34,402 --> 00:10:36,370 Can you make sure the sign is in the shot? 190 00:10:36,504 --> 00:10:37,906 So, what's Barry's secret? 191 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:40,308 Well, he's always been highly motivated. 192 00:10:40,441 --> 00:10:43,311 Dad, stop. No false modesty, son. 193 00:10:43,444 --> 00:10:46,815 I'd like to take this opportunity and offer anyone who's watching 194 00:10:46,948 --> 00:10:49,350 a 50% discount if they come down, right now. 195 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:51,385 I will clean your carpets personally. 196 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:52,863 Dad will even help too! Do you see what I'm talking about? 197 00:10:52,887 --> 00:10:55,523 I mean, he's brilliant! Barry Minkow. 198 00:10:58,292 --> 00:10:59,761 Hey, Barry. 199 00:11:01,362 --> 00:11:02,864 Yo, Barr! 200 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:05,700 Barry, my man! 201 00:11:05,834 --> 00:11:07,601 Hey, carpet dude! 202 00:11:13,574 --> 00:11:14,909 Hi. Hey. 203 00:11:21,215 --> 00:11:22,335 Well, do you like your meal? 204 00:11:22,383 --> 00:11:24,118 It was really good. 205 00:11:24,252 --> 00:11:25,586 Are you ready to go? Yeah. 206 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,588 I don't really like horror movies that much, 207 00:11:27,722 --> 00:11:31,125 but do you wanna see Blade Runner with me this weekend? 208 00:11:31,259 --> 00:11:33,394 Yeah? Awesome. 209 00:11:35,496 --> 00:11:37,698 Two hundred and forty bucks! 210 00:11:37,832 --> 00:11:40,468 Don't sweat it, man. Business is good! 211 00:11:40,601 --> 00:11:42,036 But you're doing this every weekend. 212 00:11:42,170 --> 00:11:45,206 Okay, will you look around you for a second? 213 00:11:45,339 --> 00:11:47,108 Dude, 214 00:11:47,241 --> 00:11:52,680 I'm finally in. We are finally in. It's totally worth it. 215 00:11:59,353 --> 00:12:02,423 You can't do this to me. I haven't done anything wrong. 216 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:05,426 Barry. Sit down. 217 00:12:11,866 --> 00:12:15,269 We didn't realize that you were underage. 218 00:12:15,403 --> 00:12:16,771 In the state of California, 219 00:12:16,905 --> 00:12:18,749 the signature card that opens a checking account, 220 00:12:18,773 --> 00:12:21,042 it's a legally binding document. 221 00:12:21,175 --> 00:12:22,376 It's a contract. 222 00:12:22,510 --> 00:12:24,412 And you cannot sign a legally binding 223 00:12:24,545 --> 00:12:26,414 business check if you're only 16. 224 00:12:26,547 --> 00:12:30,251 Now, like I said, if you want to get your father in here to co-sign... 225 00:12:30,384 --> 00:12:31,820 My father? 226 00:12:33,421 --> 00:12:35,689 It's my company, okay? 227 00:12:35,824 --> 00:12:37,558 I started this thing, not my dad. 228 00:12:37,691 --> 00:12:39,527 You know this! Barry, listen. 229 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:42,797 I'm not one to stifle entrepreneurship. 230 00:12:42,931 --> 00:12:46,634 I'm impressed with what you've accomplished, believe me. 231 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:49,103 But this is the way the system works. 232 00:12:49,237 --> 00:12:51,518 Now, I have no choice but to close your account immediately 233 00:12:51,605 --> 00:12:53,842 and return all outstanding checks. 234 00:12:54,943 --> 00:12:57,378 You said you were impressed by me. Right? 235 00:13:01,015 --> 00:13:03,952 Then why can't you make an exception for me? 236 00:13:04,085 --> 00:13:05,085 I'm sorry, kid. 237 00:13:05,153 --> 00:13:06,720 You've seen what I've done. 238 00:13:06,855 --> 00:13:10,224 I really am. I wish it didn't have to be this way. 239 00:13:10,358 --> 00:13:12,626 But the rules are the rules. 240 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,795 You can't break the rules. 241 00:13:16,965 --> 00:13:18,066 Look at me, kid. 242 00:13:18,199 --> 00:13:21,102 I can't let you bounce checks on me. 243 00:13:21,235 --> 00:13:22,904 I know. 244 00:13:23,037 --> 00:13:24,939 And I've been lettin' you skate. 245 00:13:28,709 --> 00:13:32,146 You owe me 800 bucks. 246 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,147 I know. 247 00:13:33,281 --> 00:13:34,782 I know. Look, Victor, man, 248 00:13:34,916 --> 00:13:36,861 you know I'm in trouble with these checking accounts. 249 00:13:36,885 --> 00:13:40,821 Okay? I would have to be crazy to try to screw you. 250 00:13:40,955 --> 00:13:44,358 I wouldn't even be in business if it wasn't for you, man. 251 00:13:44,492 --> 00:13:46,127 I owe you big. 252 00:13:48,796 --> 00:13:52,233 All I got to my name is 20 bucks. Just take it. 253 00:13:52,366 --> 00:13:53,601 Okay, enough. 254 00:13:56,170 --> 00:13:57,972 Okay, look. 255 00:13:58,106 --> 00:14:00,508 You pay me $500 cash by Friday, 256 00:14:00,641 --> 00:14:04,045 I let the other $300 slide for one more week. 257 00:14:04,178 --> 00:14:05,446 You got it? 258 00:14:05,579 --> 00:14:06,847 Thank you. 259 00:14:06,981 --> 00:14:09,417 Thank you, man. I won't let you down. 260 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:10,885 I promise. 261 00:14:12,253 --> 00:14:13,754 You better not. 262 00:14:29,270 --> 00:14:31,472 Mr. Barry. 263 00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:33,441 Ron, I need a money order 264 00:14:33,574 --> 00:14:36,177 for Sparkle Janitorial Supply for 500 bucks. 265 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:37,645 Coming right up. 266 00:14:46,787 --> 00:14:48,389 MAN: Hey, Ron, you got a delivery! 267 00:14:48,522 --> 00:14:50,367 Hey, Barry, give me one sec. I'll be right back. 268 00:14:50,391 --> 00:14:51,825 Yeah, yeah. 269 00:15:23,524 --> 00:15:25,293 Oh, God! 270 00:15:35,636 --> 00:15:36,971 MAN: Barry, you feeling all right? 271 00:15:37,105 --> 00:15:39,974 Yeah... No, no, I'm good, I'm good. 272 00:16:21,182 --> 00:16:23,527 I saw you on the news. You're an impressive young man, Barry. 273 00:16:23,551 --> 00:16:25,019 How can I help you? 274 00:16:25,153 --> 00:16:28,156 Mr. Fitzgerald, I've been to every bank n the area 275 00:16:28,289 --> 00:16:30,591 and no one will open a business checking account for me 276 00:16:30,724 --> 00:16:31,992 because they say I'm too young. 277 00:16:32,126 --> 00:16:33,961 Funny thing is, I already had one open 278 00:16:34,095 --> 00:16:36,730 for over half a year before anyone ever found out my age. 279 00:16:36,864 --> 00:16:40,668 I would have thought that I had proven my ability to be responsible. 280 00:16:40,801 --> 00:16:45,206 You don't impress me as being too young. You seem pretty mature. 281 00:16:45,339 --> 00:16:47,341 I get that all the time. 282 00:16:47,475 --> 00:16:49,143 Look, Mr. Fitzgerald, 283 00:16:50,311 --> 00:16:52,012 I've started a good business. 284 00:16:52,146 --> 00:16:53,547 And I know what I'm capable of. 285 00:16:53,681 --> 00:16:55,092 I mean, I already have seven employees, 286 00:16:55,116 --> 00:16:57,585 all of whom are paying taxes on their wages. 287 00:16:57,718 --> 00:16:59,353 I'm simply a victim of my age. 288 00:16:59,487 --> 00:17:00,721 Well put. 289 00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:05,626 I just need someone to take a small risk 290 00:17:05,759 --> 00:17:07,261 and put a little trust in me. 291 00:17:12,433 --> 00:17:14,402 Fine. I'll take the chance. 292 00:17:14,535 --> 00:17:18,906 But you'll need to keep me updated twice a week on ZZZZ Best's status. 293 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:22,710 Even though every newspaper and TV show is keeping me posted. 294 00:17:22,843 --> 00:17:24,645 Here, I want you to sign the bottom here. 295 00:17:24,778 --> 00:17:27,081 Of course. I'll fill in the rest, okay? 296 00:17:31,652 --> 00:17:32,853 Thank you. Congratulations. 297 00:17:32,986 --> 00:17:34,555 I won't let you down. 298 00:17:34,688 --> 00:17:37,258 (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING ON CAR STEREO) 299 00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:43,931 What is this? 300 00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:46,066 What do you think, huh? What is this? 301 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,201 What? 302 00:17:48,702 --> 00:17:50,070 Dude! 303 00:17:50,204 --> 00:17:52,072 What is this? Come on, baby. 304 00:17:52,206 --> 00:17:53,526 Jump in, let's go for a spin. What? 305 00:17:53,574 --> 00:17:55,443 How... 306 00:17:55,576 --> 00:17:58,946 How did you afford this, man? We're not making any profits. 307 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:00,748 Don't have to afford it. 308 00:18:00,881 --> 00:18:02,983 Just gotta cover the monthly payments. 309 00:18:04,418 --> 00:18:06,687 Look, it's all about appearances, my man. 310 00:18:06,820 --> 00:18:12,160 The way you look is the way the world thinks you are. 311 00:18:12,293 --> 00:18:14,027 Speaking of appearances, 312 00:18:14,162 --> 00:18:16,364 there's a misprint in the Yellow Pages ad. 313 00:18:16,497 --> 00:18:19,867 It says, "Serving the area for over 10 years." 314 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,602 That's not a misprint. 315 00:18:21,735 --> 00:18:23,771 It's a business tactic. 316 00:18:23,904 --> 00:18:26,774 Everybody does it. Nobody is going to check. 317 00:18:26,907 --> 00:18:28,242 What do they have to check? 318 00:18:28,376 --> 00:18:29,896 What, you think anyone is gonna believe 319 00:18:30,010 --> 00:18:33,414 you started the business when you were six years old? 320 00:18:33,547 --> 00:18:35,349 That's ambitious, man. 321 00:18:35,483 --> 00:18:38,852 Must have been tough balancing nap time and making payroll. 322 00:18:38,986 --> 00:18:41,622 You wanna think? Or you wanna drive? 323 00:18:41,755 --> 00:18:43,056 Let's drive, man. 324 00:18:47,094 --> 00:18:48,662 Fastest car on the market. 325 00:18:51,098 --> 00:18:52,098 Hold on. 326 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,045 I can't stay ahead of expenses no matter how much business I bring in. 327 00:19:05,179 --> 00:19:06,747 Victor's payments are killing me. 328 00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:18,759 Mikey... 329 00:19:18,892 --> 00:19:21,462 Mikey, Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Check this out. 330 00:19:21,595 --> 00:19:23,731 Yeah. What? 331 00:19:23,864 --> 00:19:25,866 Look at this. Look, the checks... 332 00:19:28,436 --> 00:19:31,339 The checks from the NorthRidge account haven't cleared yet. 333 00:19:31,472 --> 00:19:33,040 All right? 334 00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:36,710 So if I write a check from that account into the second account, 335 00:19:36,844 --> 00:19:39,289 I can cover my shortage until I can deposit more customer checks. 336 00:19:39,313 --> 00:19:40,714 And then I just run it the other way 337 00:19:40,848 --> 00:19:42,192 when the NorthRidge account is short. 338 00:19:42,216 --> 00:19:43,817 Then I never have to keep the full amount 339 00:19:43,951 --> 00:19:45,719 as long as I deposit the new money in time. 340 00:19:45,853 --> 00:19:47,755 Yeah. That's called check kiting. 341 00:19:47,888 --> 00:19:49,189 Really? 342 00:19:50,157 --> 00:19:51,259 I thought I made that up. 343 00:19:51,392 --> 00:19:52,626 No, you did not. 344 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,970 Anyways, anyways, it doesn't matter. 345 00:19:53,994 --> 00:19:55,296 Yeah, it does, it's illegal. 346 00:19:55,429 --> 00:19:56,196 It doesn't matter. 347 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:57,598 It's only temporary. 348 00:19:57,731 --> 00:19:59,433 It's only until I can square things up. 349 00:19:59,567 --> 00:20:01,144 'Cause kids, during the summertime, are gonna work cheap. 350 00:20:01,168 --> 00:20:02,368 I can go after more customers, 351 00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:03,910 I can do more advertising and then... 352 00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:05,148 And then I can pay it all off... 353 00:20:05,172 --> 00:20:06,412 It's gonna cost you more money. 354 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,941 I can pay it all off! 355 00:20:13,347 --> 00:20:14,982 Everything's gonna be fine. 356 00:20:35,536 --> 00:20:36,870 Mikey! 357 00:20:38,806 --> 00:20:40,207 You're late. 358 00:20:41,575 --> 00:20:44,211 I know. I know. I was at Victor's. Sorry. 359 00:20:44,345 --> 00:20:46,246 I had to pick up some company letterhead. 360 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:47,981 Letterhead? Yeah, yeah. 361 00:20:48,115 --> 00:20:50,484 You know, for corporate documents, that kind of thing. 362 00:20:50,618 --> 00:20:52,886 Did you get another loan? 363 00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:55,122 What do you mean, did I get another loan? 364 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:56,824 What do you mean, what do I mean? 365 00:20:56,957 --> 00:20:59,059 You got another loan? How much was it? Yes. Yes. 366 00:20:59,192 --> 00:21:02,496 Four grand. But it's not a big deal. Interest is like $500 a week. 367 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:04,240 $500 a week! Barry... Okay, hear me out. Hear me out. 368 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:05,766 No, no, no. Give me your hand. 369 00:21:05,899 --> 00:21:09,136 What? Half the reason I got the loan 370 00:21:09,269 --> 00:21:12,573 is because I think that you 371 00:21:15,042 --> 00:21:16,777 deserve a bonus. 372 00:21:16,910 --> 00:21:18,412 Really? Yeah, really. 373 00:21:18,546 --> 00:21:20,814 Come on, man. You work your butt off. 374 00:21:20,948 --> 00:21:23,451 I just want you to know I appreciate you. 375 00:21:23,584 --> 00:21:27,655 Go take out that cute little girl I saw you with last week. 376 00:21:27,788 --> 00:21:29,089 I... 377 00:21:30,157 --> 00:21:32,826 I think you're gonna like this place. 378 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,161 All right. 379 00:21:59,653 --> 00:22:00,921 Beats the garage, huh? 380 00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:04,024 It's awesome, man. 381 00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:05,693 ROBERT: Hey, Barry. 382 00:22:05,826 --> 00:22:07,127 I'm up here, Pop. 383 00:22:14,001 --> 00:22:15,268 Well... 384 00:22:16,537 --> 00:22:18,205 Very nice. 385 00:22:20,741 --> 00:22:22,342 Impressive. 386 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:24,677 Son... 387 00:22:25,846 --> 00:22:27,581 You know I am so proud of you. 388 00:22:29,082 --> 00:22:32,019 But I don't want you to get in any trouble. 389 00:22:32,152 --> 00:22:34,121 And I just feel like... 390 00:22:35,222 --> 00:22:36,457 You're in over your head. 391 00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:39,527 Dad, don't tell me how to run my business. 392 00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:41,860 No, no, no. Your whole life you've played it safe, okay? 393 00:22:41,929 --> 00:22:43,363 I'm taking my shot here. 394 00:22:48,702 --> 00:22:49,970 Hey... 395 00:22:50,103 --> 00:22:53,507 Why don't you come work for ZZZZ Best? 396 00:22:53,641 --> 00:22:56,644 You can build up my commercial accounts. 397 00:22:56,777 --> 00:22:59,346 I'll match your salary at Windy City with a better commission. 398 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,881 I don't think that's the best idea. 399 00:23:01,014 --> 00:23:02,459 Come on, Dad. You've always been at jobs 400 00:23:02,483 --> 00:23:04,184 that didn't require any talent. 401 00:23:06,954 --> 00:23:09,222 Come work for me. Show me what you can do. 402 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,502 Come here. 403 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:24,304 Son... 404 00:23:32,379 --> 00:23:33,413 Hey, Dad? 405 00:23:34,982 --> 00:23:36,316 You start work Monday. 406 00:23:39,219 --> 00:23:40,754 See you later, Mr. Minkow. 407 00:23:40,888 --> 00:23:42,723 Yeah, see you, boys. 408 00:23:45,158 --> 00:23:47,928 That's our new commercial manager. 409 00:23:48,061 --> 00:23:49,229 You have a sec? Yeah. 410 00:23:54,067 --> 00:23:55,402 Look at that. 411 00:23:56,504 --> 00:23:57,505 So... 412 00:23:57,638 --> 00:24:00,741 I might not be smart enough to get it, 413 00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:05,513 but Victor doesn't sell cleaning equipment, right? 414 00:24:05,646 --> 00:24:07,981 No, but the banks and insurance companies 415 00:24:08,115 --> 00:24:09,282 don't need to know that. 416 00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:11,752 Right, so... 417 00:24:11,885 --> 00:24:16,890 We purchased 10 Crowell Triple-Vac Dual Pump... 418 00:24:17,024 --> 00:24:19,226 Water-heated steam cleaners. 419 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:24,064 I don't know that brand. 420 00:24:25,265 --> 00:24:27,134 That's 'cause they don't exist. 421 00:24:29,036 --> 00:24:30,270 Sounds good though, right? 422 00:24:33,073 --> 00:24:34,307 Yeah. 423 00:24:35,676 --> 00:24:37,110 Sounds good. 424 00:24:38,145 --> 00:24:39,613 Hey, Mike. 425 00:24:39,747 --> 00:24:41,114 From now on... 426 00:24:41,248 --> 00:24:43,416 "Mr. Minkow." 427 00:24:46,153 --> 00:24:48,121 Hey! If that isn't the little... 428 00:24:48,255 --> 00:24:51,024 Look at you! Not so little anymore. What happened to you? 429 00:24:51,158 --> 00:24:53,026 Hey, Uncle Joe. 430 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,362 Look at you. Trying to look like you. 431 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,598 I should be so lucky. 432 00:24:57,731 --> 00:25:02,002 Damn! Come here, I want to show you something. Watch your step. 433 00:25:02,135 --> 00:25:04,137 What... What happened to this place? 434 00:25:04,271 --> 00:25:05,873 Well, this one was a flood. 435 00:25:06,006 --> 00:25:08,108 Hard to imagine you could do anything with this, huh? 436 00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:10,678 It smells like the inside of a Halloween costume. 437 00:25:12,312 --> 00:25:14,948 This is called restoration work. 438 00:25:15,082 --> 00:25:16,316 Fires, floods... 439 00:25:16,449 --> 00:25:18,218 The insurance companies contract it out 440 00:25:18,351 --> 00:25:21,955 to restore it and make it new again. 441 00:25:22,089 --> 00:25:25,225 Big money. Big money. 442 00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:27,595 This could be your future. 443 00:25:27,728 --> 00:25:29,697 Come on. I want to show you something. 444 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:40,407 Wow. This is amazing. Mmm-hmm. 445 00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:45,579 Before and after. Not bad for three weeks' work, huh? 446 00:25:45,713 --> 00:25:49,249 Look. Uncle Joe, I appreciate you bringing me out here, 447 00:25:49,382 --> 00:25:52,720 but I'm just a carpet cleaner. 448 00:25:52,853 --> 00:25:57,424 Yeah. So was I when I started 35 years ago. 449 00:25:57,557 --> 00:26:02,095 You know, all the carpet companies out there... 450 00:26:02,229 --> 00:26:04,064 All your competitors, they all advertise 451 00:26:04,197 --> 00:26:06,266 for one big thing that you don't. 452 00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:08,869 Emergency water damage restoration. 453 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:13,373 Water heater busts in the house, 454 00:26:13,506 --> 00:26:15,408 water floods the carpets everywhere. 455 00:26:15,542 --> 00:26:17,186 The first people called are the carpet cleaners 456 00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:18,979 who come in and extract the water. 457 00:26:19,112 --> 00:26:22,482 Bingo! And you make millions. 458 00:26:24,251 --> 00:26:29,189 If you're ever interested in that kinda thing, just let me know. 459 00:26:29,322 --> 00:26:31,258 I'll help you find some work. 460 00:26:49,142 --> 00:26:50,778 Are you insane? 461 00:26:51,745 --> 00:26:53,681 You can't open another office. 462 00:26:53,814 --> 00:26:55,759 Barry, you think that I don't know that you're kiting checks again? 463 00:26:55,783 --> 00:26:57,951 This company is hanging on by a thread. 464 00:26:58,085 --> 00:26:59,687 Relax. And we both know... 465 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:02,690 Relax! Okay? Everybody cheats a little bit. It's not a big deal. 466 00:27:02,823 --> 00:27:04,143 It's a big deal. It is a big deal. 467 00:27:04,191 --> 00:27:05,959 It's not. It's not a big deal! 468 00:27:06,093 --> 00:27:09,396 Okay? I had to expand to generate more cash to catch up on my... 469 00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:12,199 Barry, you can't run one office on... Do not... 470 00:27:12,332 --> 00:27:16,036 Do not raise your... Barry! 471 00:27:16,169 --> 00:27:18,872 Do not raise your voice at me. 472 00:27:24,277 --> 00:27:26,814 It's settled. All right? 473 00:27:29,683 --> 00:27:31,819 I already got the location picked out. 474 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:39,993 Look, everybody thinks I'm some kind of hotshot now, man. 475 00:27:42,229 --> 00:27:44,932 Barry Minkow, the young entrepreneur. 476 00:27:47,267 --> 00:27:48,936 I gotta keep that going. 477 00:27:49,937 --> 00:27:51,671 Mike, it's who I am now. 478 00:28:14,327 --> 00:28:19,166 With the debts and the divorce, I really need the extra income. 479 00:28:19,299 --> 00:28:21,001 Great. Happy to help. 480 00:28:22,736 --> 00:28:24,471 Now, I need you to mock up a few documents 481 00:28:24,604 --> 00:28:27,941 for a bloated insurance company. So, don't feel bad. 482 00:28:28,075 --> 00:28:30,577 Feeling bad was not something I was factoring in. 483 00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,815 You do have the cash, right? 484 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,320 You're sure this was one of your competitors? 485 00:29:22,429 --> 00:29:23,496 Yeah. 486 00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:24,731 What did they steal? 487 00:29:24,865 --> 00:29:27,500 Four Crowell Triple Vac steam cleaners. 488 00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:29,669 Yeah, but Barry, even at 1,500 a piece, 489 00:29:29,803 --> 00:29:31,038 that doesn't equal $12,000. 490 00:29:31,171 --> 00:29:32,171 Water damage. 491 00:29:33,073 --> 00:29:34,207 "Water damage"? 492 00:29:34,341 --> 00:29:35,775 Yeah. 493 00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:38,511 See, when they broke in, they set off the sprinklers, 494 00:29:38,645 --> 00:29:39,880 which caused water damage. 495 00:29:40,013 --> 00:29:42,382 These guys are trying to put me out of business! 496 00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:44,384 But we fixed it. 497 00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:46,453 Because that's what we do. 498 00:29:47,855 --> 00:29:49,722 It's expensive. Really? 499 00:29:49,857 --> 00:29:52,092 Yeah, it's called "restoration work." 500 00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:53,827 In fact, ZZZZ Best is going to 501 00:29:53,961 --> 00:29:55,271 be awarded out more restoration jobs 502 00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:56,429 from other big companies 503 00:29:56,563 --> 00:29:58,866 as early as next week and that... 504 00:29:58,999 --> 00:30:00,968 That's where the real growth opportunities are 505 00:30:01,101 --> 00:30:02,769 in the carpet-cleaning industry. 506 00:30:14,447 --> 00:30:18,251 I think a little toast is in order for the man of the hour. 507 00:30:18,385 --> 00:30:21,021 Dad, come on. No, no, no. 508 00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:24,524 Here's to Barry on your 18th birthday. 509 00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:29,496 You're an adult, well, legally anyway. 510 00:30:29,629 --> 00:30:32,765 Now, you can get married, even join the army 511 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,135 with or without our permission. To my son, Barry... 512 00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:36,904 I am sorry to interrupt, 513 00:30:37,037 --> 00:30:40,073 but you know how it is when your father tries to be funny. 514 00:30:40,207 --> 00:30:42,042 Right... 515 00:30:42,175 --> 00:30:46,146 But I would like to say something. I'd like to toast you, Barry. 516 00:30:48,648 --> 00:30:54,054 I am so proud of your success. 517 00:30:56,456 --> 00:30:57,824 Thank you, Mom. 518 00:31:01,061 --> 00:31:03,130 Cheers. To ZZZZ Best, son. 519 00:31:03,263 --> 00:31:04,932 Cheers, guys. Mazel tov. 520 00:31:12,539 --> 00:31:14,507 WOMAN: And so, as we look forward 521 00:31:14,641 --> 00:31:16,543 to the excitement of new lives, 522 00:31:16,676 --> 00:31:18,211 we, the fresh-faced class... 523 00:31:18,345 --> 00:31:20,613 MIKEY: Man, I feel like I don't even know you anymore. 524 00:31:22,382 --> 00:31:24,517 Come on. Yeah you do, Mikey. 525 00:31:24,651 --> 00:31:29,122 Same old Barry. I'm just a regular business now, that's all. 526 00:31:29,256 --> 00:31:32,525 But like Icarus, who flew too high to the sun, 527 00:31:32,659 --> 00:31:34,527 we need to keep watch, 528 00:31:34,661 --> 00:31:37,564 to keep level and not let the temptations of our new freedom 529 00:31:37,697 --> 00:31:39,432 be the end of us. 530 00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:41,701 Come on. 531 00:31:41,834 --> 00:31:43,079 Who doesn't cheat on their taxes 532 00:31:43,103 --> 00:31:44,437 or inflate an insurance claim? 533 00:31:44,571 --> 00:31:46,974 Can we just enjoy graduation? 534 00:31:47,107 --> 00:31:50,443 I applaud you fellow students on this day of rebirth... 535 00:31:50,577 --> 00:31:52,479 The answer is, everyone. 536 00:31:52,612 --> 00:31:54,081 And nobody gets hurt, all right? 537 00:31:54,214 --> 00:31:57,050 So, don't come at me with that self-righteous attitude. 538 00:31:57,184 --> 00:32:01,288 In fact, I think I deserve a little thanks. 539 00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:05,458 Really. You're running flush now because of me. 540 00:32:05,592 --> 00:32:08,561 Congratulations to the class of 1984! 541 00:32:34,421 --> 00:32:35,788 Damn it. 542 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:26,906 JOE: Hey, it's your favorite uncle. 543 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,351 BARRY: Hey, Uncle Joe. How are you? 544 00:33:28,375 --> 00:33:30,277 JOE: I'm good, kid. Listen. 545 00:33:30,410 --> 00:33:33,046 I'm out there in the business community and I'm hearing things. 546 00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:36,183 Like you're expanding too fast and you can't possibly be profitable. 547 00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:38,551 BARRY: Uncle Joe, that's just jealous people 548 00:33:38,685 --> 00:33:41,054 using their stories as an excuse for their mediocrity. 549 00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:43,823 Yeah, yeah. I'm hearing that, too. See? 550 00:33:43,956 --> 00:33:45,925 JOE: Okay. All right. But be careful. 551 00:33:46,059 --> 00:33:49,162 You have to be a little bit of a thief in business, I know that. 552 00:33:49,296 --> 00:33:51,631 But you don't want to become a thief. 553 00:33:51,764 --> 00:33:54,901 Then you're not in business anymore, you're just a crook. 554 00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:01,117 There's a project over in Tarzana 555 00:34:01,141 --> 00:34:03,076 and I have an interested buyer. 556 00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:05,454 He won't close on the sale until I fix a rip in the carpet. 557 00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:06,755 BARRY: I'll get someone right on it. 558 00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:08,315 JOE: No, no. He wants you. 559 00:34:08,448 --> 00:34:11,151 He wants to meet the millionaire kid success story. 560 00:34:11,284 --> 00:34:14,754 Just be careful. I hear this guy's connected. A real Mafioso. 561 00:34:14,887 --> 00:34:16,123 I mean it. 562 00:34:19,426 --> 00:34:21,861 I read about you in the Examiner, didn't I? 563 00:34:23,663 --> 00:34:24,931 Yeah, yeah. 564 00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:27,334 Joe says you're a pro. 565 00:34:27,467 --> 00:34:28,835 That's my Uncle Joe. 566 00:34:31,671 --> 00:34:34,006 How do you do that, Barry? 567 00:34:34,941 --> 00:34:38,077 Pull down a profit like that? 568 00:34:38,211 --> 00:34:39,779 Cleaning carpet? 569 00:34:41,348 --> 00:34:42,749 I never heard of that. 570 00:34:44,484 --> 00:34:48,855 Well, Jack, the real money, it's not in the carpet cleaning. 571 00:34:48,988 --> 00:34:51,090 It's in these things called restoration jobs. 572 00:34:51,224 --> 00:34:52,392 Oh, yeah? 573 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,428 Like cleaning up after an old fire? 574 00:34:55,562 --> 00:34:57,063 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 575 00:34:57,197 --> 00:35:00,300 Um, the jobs, they come in through... 576 00:35:00,433 --> 00:35:02,001 Through these insurance adjusters. 577 00:35:02,135 --> 00:35:04,171 My company, ZZZZ Best, we got, like... 578 00:35:04,304 --> 00:35:06,406 We got three of these jobs lined up right now. 579 00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:07,940 But I plan on expanding, 580 00:35:08,074 --> 00:35:12,579 because each job contract is worth about 25 grand. 581 00:35:12,712 --> 00:35:14,381 That must be nice. 582 00:35:14,514 --> 00:35:16,783 BARRY: Yeah, yeah. It's really nice. 583 00:35:16,916 --> 00:35:18,227 You know, you have these huge buildings 584 00:35:18,251 --> 00:35:20,753 with these complex sprinkler systems 585 00:35:20,887 --> 00:35:24,023 and they go off inadvertently, causing floods. 586 00:35:24,157 --> 00:35:26,393 You know, and it's expensive to fix. 587 00:35:28,328 --> 00:35:31,631 If I had the money, there's no limit to what I could do. 588 00:35:31,764 --> 00:35:34,100 How much? A hundred grand. 589 00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:39,005 A hundred grand? Just for clean 590 00:35:39,138 --> 00:35:40,907 No, no. It's much more than that. 591 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,377 It's extracting the water, dehumidifying the area, 592 00:35:44,511 --> 00:35:46,422 you know, padding and tack strips, mold treatment. 593 00:35:46,446 --> 00:35:48,881 You see, all this requires money, lots of money, 594 00:35:49,015 --> 00:35:50,917 and these worthless insurance companies, 595 00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:53,486 they're notoriously slow for these large payouts. 596 00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:57,023 And see, that's what sets me apart from my competition. 597 00:35:57,156 --> 00:35:59,492 Look, Jack, how many carpet cleaners 598 00:35:59,626 --> 00:36:02,061 do you know in this business that are well 599 00:36:02,195 --> 00:36:05,632 How much are you gonna pull down right now? 600 00:36:05,765 --> 00:36:07,767 With these restorations? 601 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:11,204 These three? Eighty grand. Profit. 602 00:36:12,939 --> 00:36:16,309 It's good. So give me proof. 603 00:36:16,443 --> 00:36:17,443 Proof? 604 00:36:17,544 --> 00:36:18,654 Yeah, proof of the jobs, huh? 605 00:36:18,678 --> 00:36:20,079 A little accountability. You know? 606 00:36:20,213 --> 00:36:22,615 I mean, I'll come in right now. Fifty grand cash. 607 00:36:22,749 --> 00:36:24,951 You need money, I'll raise money, you know. 608 00:36:25,084 --> 00:36:28,755 I'll talk to friends. It's all numbers, Barry. 609 00:36:28,888 --> 00:36:30,156 "Numbers"? It's just numbers. 610 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:33,660 Yeah, yeah, numbers. It's all numbers. 611 00:36:33,793 --> 00:36:36,296 We come in, 612 00:36:36,429 --> 00:36:39,732 we come in for a lot more than a hundred, you know. 613 00:36:39,866 --> 00:36:41,133 A lot more. 614 00:36:43,002 --> 00:36:46,205 We split profit, you know? 50/50. 615 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,008 "50/50"? 616 00:36:50,243 --> 00:36:54,213 All the jobs. If you're interested. 617 00:36:57,216 --> 00:37:01,521 Yeah. Yeah! Yeah, of course, I'm interested. 618 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,998 The proof, the documents, I can bring those by tomorrow. 619 00:37:14,334 --> 00:37:15,435 You want a drink? 620 00:37:16,836 --> 00:37:18,971 Nah, I don't drink. 621 00:37:20,139 --> 00:37:23,410 Good for you. You're a smart kid. 622 00:37:30,517 --> 00:37:32,084 This is unacceptable. 623 00:37:32,218 --> 00:37:34,029 You don't understand. No, no, you don't understand. 624 00:37:34,053 --> 00:37:37,357 You got those credit card accounts because I vouched for you! 625 00:37:37,490 --> 00:37:39,726 Twenty-five thousand in fraudulent accounts! 626 00:37:39,859 --> 00:37:41,528 Look it wasn't me! I swear! 627 00:37:41,661 --> 00:37:42,729 Barry. 628 00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:44,597 It was crooked carpet cleaners! Look... 629 00:37:44,731 --> 00:37:47,367 They want me out of business... Keep it down. 630 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:49,201 Look, they faked the credit card slips 631 00:37:49,336 --> 00:37:51,656 so they could double-bill the customers and make more money. 632 00:37:51,771 --> 00:37:53,272 What do you want me to do? 633 00:37:53,406 --> 00:37:55,217 I just found out about this last night. I already fired them. 634 00:37:55,241 --> 00:37:56,743 Were you planning on telling me? 635 00:37:56,876 --> 00:37:58,911 Yes... I guess... You guess? 636 00:37:59,045 --> 00:38:02,482 Yes, yes, yes. Of course I was planning on... 637 00:38:02,615 --> 00:38:06,152 Look, I'm a little over my head here, Bill. 638 00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:10,423 Mr. Fitzgerald, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 639 00:38:13,426 --> 00:38:14,894 All right. 640 00:38:17,897 --> 00:38:20,967 I can keep your accounts open for five business days. 641 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,069 You deposit $10,000 at that time 642 00:38:23,202 --> 00:38:25,071 and the rest five days after that... 643 00:38:25,204 --> 00:38:26,305 I won't let you down. 644 00:38:26,439 --> 00:38:27,974 You better meet these deadlines, Barry. 645 00:38:28,107 --> 00:38:29,476 Otherwise, I will shut you down 646 00:38:29,609 --> 00:38:31,444 and I will bounce all your checks. 647 00:38:34,947 --> 00:38:36,383 This is a joke to you, huh? 648 00:38:40,219 --> 00:38:41,530 That would put me out of business. 649 00:38:41,554 --> 00:38:43,590 I know. So it should motivate you. 650 00:38:43,723 --> 00:38:45,191 Now, get the hell out of here. 651 00:38:54,233 --> 00:38:56,536 Hey, I need your help. 652 00:38:58,371 --> 00:39:01,874 Look, we need to find a way to fake some nonexistent restoration jobs. 653 00:39:02,008 --> 00:39:05,945 All right? I'm not talking about staging a phony break-in. 654 00:39:06,078 --> 00:39:11,718 I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars in jobs that don't exist. 655 00:39:11,851 --> 00:39:13,252 Got any ideas? 656 00:39:13,386 --> 00:39:16,022 I can incorporate a phony adjusting firm. 657 00:39:17,857 --> 00:39:20,126 A phony adjusting firm. 658 00:39:22,495 --> 00:39:25,932 So, what, it would fake the jobs on the firm's letterhead? 659 00:39:26,065 --> 00:39:27,333 Yeah. 660 00:39:28,968 --> 00:39:32,138 That's great. That's great! Okay. 661 00:39:32,271 --> 00:39:34,073 And in the meantime, I'll work hard 662 00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:37,610 trying to get ZZZZ Best some legitimate claims to cover your back. 663 00:39:37,744 --> 00:39:40,046 I'll catch you in your office later. 664 00:39:40,179 --> 00:39:42,982 Okay, okay. Thank you. 665 00:39:43,115 --> 00:39:46,085 I really appreciate this. I wouldn't ask you if it wasn't life or death. 666 00:39:46,218 --> 00:39:48,655 I got 100 employees depending on me. 667 00:39:48,788 --> 00:39:50,056 Well, they're your problem. 668 00:39:50,189 --> 00:39:52,158 I'm just doing this for money, is all. 669 00:39:52,291 --> 00:39:53,560 As long as you do it. 670 00:40:05,004 --> 00:40:06,539 So, he's still standing there, 671 00:40:06,673 --> 00:40:08,675 in his underwear, holding an identical toothbrush. 672 00:40:08,808 --> 00:40:11,644 So, I tell the guy, as we always say at ZZZZ Best, 673 00:40:11,778 --> 00:40:14,481 "We don't just cut corners, we clean them." 674 00:40:18,551 --> 00:40:21,353 Can I trust him? Absolutely. 675 00:40:21,488 --> 00:40:24,256 So, let me explain to you how a restoration job works. 676 00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:25,825 All right, gorgeous woman. 677 00:40:25,958 --> 00:40:27,158 Come here. You be the building. 678 00:40:27,193 --> 00:40:28,473 Stand here next to me. All right? 679 00:40:28,528 --> 00:40:30,096 Come here! Come on. I'm... 680 00:40:45,311 --> 00:40:46,679 What about the Feds? 681 00:40:47,947 --> 00:40:49,248 Huh? 682 00:40:49,381 --> 00:40:51,584 Did they come see you yet? 683 00:40:51,718 --> 00:40:53,419 Who? The FBI. 684 00:40:55,421 --> 00:40:57,590 The FBI... No. No? 685 00:40:57,724 --> 00:40:59,291 No. 686 00:40:59,425 --> 00:41:05,164 Well... They might, you know. 687 00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:07,166 They'll probably pay you a visit. 688 00:41:08,835 --> 00:41:10,537 Ask questions about me. 689 00:41:12,171 --> 00:41:14,306 Well, if they do, just say nothing more 690 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,776 than our arrangement, you know? 691 00:41:18,244 --> 00:41:19,311 "Our arrangement"? 692 00:41:19,445 --> 00:41:21,313 Yeah, it's legitimate. 693 00:41:23,282 --> 00:41:25,151 You could prove that. 694 00:41:27,587 --> 00:41:29,155 Can't you? Yeah, yeah. 695 00:41:29,288 --> 00:41:31,758 Of course. Of course I can prove it. 696 00:42:12,999 --> 00:42:15,301 Hey, how you doing? 697 00:42:16,836 --> 00:42:18,404 How are you? Hi. 698 00:42:18,537 --> 00:42:22,575 Hi. Hey, baby. I got a present for you inside. Okay? 699 00:42:22,709 --> 00:42:24,911 Okay. I'll be in in a second. 700 00:42:29,015 --> 00:42:30,617 Can I help you? 701 00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:32,952 Yeah, you can. I'll introduce myself to you first. 702 00:42:33,085 --> 00:42:35,454 I'm Special Agent Gamble. FBI. 703 00:42:38,257 --> 00:42:39,759 That's your girlfriend? 704 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,664 Yeah. Very nice. Good luck. 705 00:42:44,797 --> 00:42:46,265 Thank you. 706 00:42:46,398 --> 00:42:51,804 Anyway, I'm here, I'm investigating a Jack... 707 00:42:51,938 --> 00:42:52,938 Saxon. 708 00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:55,574 Yes. Jack Saxon. 709 00:42:55,708 --> 00:42:57,343 I understand he's been shaking you down 710 00:42:57,476 --> 00:42:59,111 on some loan that he made you... 711 00:42:59,245 --> 00:43:01,156 He hasn't given me a loan, he's a business consultant. 712 00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:02,715 "Business consultant"? 713 00:43:06,352 --> 00:43:09,856 New house, huh? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 714 00:43:09,989 --> 00:43:13,893 Look, we'd like you to testify in a grand jury 715 00:43:14,026 --> 00:43:16,629 about your business deals with this Saxon. 716 00:43:18,665 --> 00:43:20,767 With all due respect, why would I testify against him? 717 00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:22,580 He's been nothing but a help to my company. 718 00:43:22,635 --> 00:43:24,070 I understand. It's not... 719 00:43:24,203 --> 00:43:25,938 Barry? Come on inside. 720 00:43:27,606 --> 00:43:29,375 Come on. 721 00:43:29,508 --> 00:43:32,779 Sorry. Duty calls. It was nice to meet you, Mr. Special Agent... 722 00:43:32,912 --> 00:43:34,380 Gamble. Gamble. 723 00:43:35,147 --> 00:43:37,216 Thank you, Mr. Mincow. 724 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:39,218 It's Minkow. 725 00:43:39,351 --> 00:43:42,088 HALL: There was a cockiness, I was cocky. Barry was cocky. 726 00:43:42,221 --> 00:43:45,324 Everything we did just seemed to fall nto place. 727 00:43:45,457 --> 00:43:49,561 It was almost like we were beinglooked over by some guardian angel. 728 00:43:49,696 --> 00:43:52,264 JERRI: In fact, there were more people that didn't believe Barry 729 00:43:52,398 --> 00:43:54,233 than the ones that did. 730 00:43:54,366 --> 00:43:55,968 But he only needed a couple. 731 00:43:56,102 --> 00:43:58,270 HALL: Altogether, I think the FBI said 732 00:43:58,404 --> 00:44:01,674 I created about 23,000 false documents 733 00:44:01,808 --> 00:44:04,744 to convince Wall Street, NASDAQ and the SEC 734 00:44:04,877 --> 00:44:08,580 that we were doing about $400 million worth of restoration work 735 00:44:08,715 --> 00:44:11,150 when in reality, we were doing none. 736 00:44:11,283 --> 00:44:12,584 JERRI: Barry was working with 737 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,486 the investment banking firm of Payne Cameron 738 00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:16,422 to take ZZZZ Best public. 739 00:44:16,555 --> 00:44:21,560 However, Barry and Jack Saxon had a side scheme to pump and dump, 740 00:44:21,694 --> 00:44:23,996 acquiring ZZZZ Best stock at five cents apiece, 741 00:44:24,130 --> 00:44:28,367 selling at the market price and violating securities laws. 742 00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:31,738 HALL: The biggest scam we pulled off was the Sacramento job. 743 00:44:31,871 --> 00:44:35,207 Barry staged a walkthrough of a newly-restored office building 744 00:44:35,341 --> 00:44:36,976 to fool the Wall Street auditors 745 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:38,544 into believing that ZZZZ Best 746 00:44:38,677 --> 00:44:40,546 had done all of the restoration work. 747 00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,115 We hadn't done any of that work. 748 00:44:43,249 --> 00:44:46,285 He even bribed the doorman a hundred bucks to make it look good. 749 00:44:46,418 --> 00:44:48,888 Hey, Mr. Minkow! Nice to see you again! 750 00:44:49,021 --> 00:44:51,323 Bob, how are you? How's the wife? Still alive. 751 00:44:51,457 --> 00:44:53,659 That's too bad. Say hi to the kids for me. 752 00:44:53,793 --> 00:44:55,427 You got it! 753 00:44:55,561 --> 00:44:58,697 Just like family. Everyone at ZZZZ Best is like family. 754 00:44:58,831 --> 00:45:02,101 JERRI: A con man has a tremendous amount of charisma. 755 00:45:02,234 --> 00:45:03,803 Smell it and say to the woman, 756 00:45:03,936 --> 00:45:08,040 "Ma'am, that's not dog urine. That's your three-year-old." 757 00:45:08,174 --> 00:45:11,143 What's this ladder doing here? Mike, please find out who was here last. 758 00:45:11,277 --> 00:45:13,645 Doesn't even look like there was any water damage at all. 759 00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:15,848 Well, that's the point. 760 00:45:15,982 --> 00:45:19,018 JERRI: See, he doesn't take your money. You give it to him. 761 00:45:19,151 --> 00:45:22,254 Gentlemen, attached, you will find our project summary. 762 00:45:22,388 --> 00:45:24,556 As you can see, we went with the cost-effective 763 00:45:24,690 --> 00:45:26,258 nylon carpet to save time, 764 00:45:26,392 --> 00:45:29,428 and, most importantly, your money. 765 00:45:30,963 --> 00:45:32,965 JERRI: It's theft with a smile. 766 00:45:38,704 --> 00:45:41,841 HALL: Once the Wall Street auditors signed off on our financials, 767 00:45:41,974 --> 00:45:45,211 Payne Cameron took ZZZZ Best public. 768 00:45:45,344 --> 00:45:51,217 By the end of the day, we had a market cap of well over $300 million. 769 00:45:51,350 --> 00:45:54,153 Truth be told, we were worth almost nothing. 770 00:45:54,286 --> 00:45:57,356 This is tremendous. Where's Barry? Dad. 771 00:45:57,489 --> 00:45:58,991 Hey, Barry, we saw you on Oprah. 772 00:45:59,125 --> 00:46:01,103 Hey! I stole the show, right? Listen, I want Carson. 773 00:46:01,127 --> 00:46:03,796 I want to be on Johnny Carson! What's this? 774 00:46:03,930 --> 00:46:05,197 It's the Tribune! Read it! 775 00:46:05,331 --> 00:46:07,867 "Happy Birthday, Barry Minkow. 776 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,603 "Your stock is worth $100 million! 777 00:46:11,737 --> 00:46:14,673 "You control a $300 million public company"! 778 00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:20,379 Hey, everybody! Enough with this cheap stuff. 779 00:46:20,512 --> 00:46:22,081 Hey, you, I don't even know you. 780 00:46:22,214 --> 00:46:24,214 Go buy me the most expensive champagne you can find. 781 00:46:24,316 --> 00:46:25,351 Five hundred bottles. 782 00:46:25,484 --> 00:46:27,253 Drinks on me, everybody! 783 00:46:35,494 --> 00:46:37,864 So, you're the birthday kid, huh? 784 00:46:37,997 --> 00:46:39,398 Uh... 785 00:46:39,531 --> 00:46:43,335 I'm not a kid. All of these people here work for me. 786 00:46:43,469 --> 00:46:44,871 Well, I don't work for you. 787 00:46:46,638 --> 00:46:48,407 Okay, who are you? 788 00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:50,742 My name is Sam. 789 00:46:53,345 --> 00:46:55,347 Sam, that's a guy's name. 790 00:46:55,481 --> 00:46:57,016 You better be careful. 791 00:46:57,149 --> 00:47:01,053 I might just decide this party is a bore and leave. 792 00:47:01,187 --> 00:47:02,654 Who invited you? 793 00:47:04,056 --> 00:47:06,725 Happy birthday, Barry. See you later. 794 00:47:09,261 --> 00:47:10,429 Whoa. Babe. 795 00:47:10,562 --> 00:47:12,431 Dude, stop. Stop. 796 00:47:12,564 --> 00:47:14,033 Where's Mindy? 797 00:47:15,701 --> 00:47:17,636 Okay. Have a good night, buddy. 798 00:47:20,006 --> 00:47:23,009 You've got all these people fooled, don't ya? 799 00:47:25,677 --> 00:47:26,957 If you've got a problem with me, 800 00:47:27,046 --> 00:47:29,148 you canalways stop picking up your check. 801 00:47:29,281 --> 00:47:35,021 You can't have me fooled, Barry. You can't have me fooled. 802 00:47:35,154 --> 00:47:39,658 You know what the difference is between you and me, Mike? 803 00:47:39,791 --> 00:47:43,562 I lead. You follow. 804 00:47:43,695 --> 00:47:45,197 You're embarrassing. 805 00:48:00,612 --> 00:48:01,680 Baby. 806 00:48:01,813 --> 00:48:03,615 Hey, birthday boy. Close your eyes. 807 00:48:03,749 --> 00:48:05,484 Why? Close your eyes. 808 00:48:05,617 --> 00:48:07,119 Okay. 809 00:48:09,021 --> 00:48:10,289 What is this? 810 00:48:10,422 --> 00:48:13,025 A little toy for the love of my life. 811 00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:14,493 What? No. Wait, Barry. 812 00:48:14,626 --> 00:48:16,495 It's your birthday. It's not my birthday. 813 00:48:16,628 --> 00:48:17,997 Because I love you, that's why. 814 00:48:18,130 --> 00:48:19,131 What are you doing? 815 00:48:19,265 --> 00:48:20,699 Listen... Listen to me. Now. 816 00:48:20,832 --> 00:48:23,869 I want you to take your new car, grab a friend right now, 817 00:48:24,003 --> 00:48:25,847 and I want you to go for a little joyride, all right? 818 00:48:25,871 --> 00:48:28,274 And I don't want you come back until this is on empty. 819 00:48:28,407 --> 00:48:31,877 Right now? Right now! Right now. Go, go, go. 820 00:48:32,011 --> 00:48:34,813 Thank you. I love you. You're welcome. 821 00:48:55,501 --> 00:48:56,735 Hello there. 822 00:48:58,337 --> 00:48:59,972 What took you so long? 823 00:49:03,909 --> 00:49:07,179 It's my house, you wait for me. 824 00:49:07,313 --> 00:49:08,847 We'll see about that. 825 00:49:32,638 --> 00:49:35,607 Ma! What are you doing here? 826 00:49:35,741 --> 00:49:37,543 I'm sorry, I just wanted to see you. 827 00:49:37,676 --> 00:49:39,145 I wanted to congratulate you, 828 00:49:39,278 --> 00:49:41,780 but you were surrounded by so many presents and people, 829 00:49:41,913 --> 00:49:44,250 I didn't get a chance... I'm in the bathroom, for God sakes. 830 00:49:44,383 --> 00:49:49,721 But I wanted to congratulate you on, on the article. 831 00:49:49,855 --> 00:49:52,258 Dad give you that? Yeah. 832 00:49:52,391 --> 00:49:54,693 You come over to tell me you're proud of me? 833 00:49:56,728 --> 00:49:58,264 It's very impressive. 834 00:50:01,467 --> 00:50:03,869 "Impressive." I think it's a bit more than impressive... 835 00:50:04,002 --> 00:50:07,106 Come on, you've been praying for this your whole life, haven't you? 836 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:14,413 Yeah, I was praying for this but I was praying to my vanity. 837 00:50:14,546 --> 00:50:15,623 What's that supposed to mean? 838 00:50:15,647 --> 00:50:17,316 Please listen. I wanted... 839 00:50:17,449 --> 00:50:19,851 I wanted so much more than what your father could provide. 840 00:50:19,985 --> 00:50:21,887 I didn't realize what a good man he was. 841 00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:24,990 "A good man." A good man pays the water bill. 842 00:50:25,124 --> 00:50:26,844 A good man keeps the lights on in the house. 843 00:50:26,892 --> 00:50:29,928 A good man will take care of and provide for his family 844 00:50:30,062 --> 00:50:33,165 no matter what the cost. I... Mom... Mama... I'm a good man. 845 00:50:33,299 --> 00:50:36,168 It's very hard to be a good man, Barry. 846 00:50:36,302 --> 00:50:40,872 You're really doing this to me on my birthday, Mom? 847 00:50:41,006 --> 00:50:44,243 What are you doing? You want to turn on all this now? 848 00:50:44,376 --> 00:50:48,347 I am the most successful thing to ever come from this family. 849 00:50:50,449 --> 00:50:51,993 All right? This is everything that you've wanted. 850 00:50:52,017 --> 00:50:53,719 This is everything that Dad's wanted. 851 00:50:53,852 --> 00:50:55,797 This is everything that I've wanted for my entire life. 852 00:50:55,821 --> 00:50:59,591 I mean, come on, I control a $300 million company. 853 00:50:59,725 --> 00:51:01,860 When I was downstairs, blowing out my birthday candles, 854 00:51:01,993 --> 00:51:04,606 I couldn't even think of anythingto wish for, because I already have... 855 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:06,198 You don't have anything. 856 00:51:06,332 --> 00:51:09,301 You don't have anything, because you don't have morality! 857 00:51:11,337 --> 00:51:12,704 I don't have... 858 00:51:15,641 --> 00:51:17,709 You don't have God. 859 00:51:18,644 --> 00:51:20,112 "God"? 860 00:51:23,615 --> 00:51:28,053 How much is God? I'll buy God. 861 00:51:58,384 --> 00:52:01,387 No, no, no. 862 00:52:04,290 --> 00:52:05,691 Look, this is ancient history. 863 00:52:05,824 --> 00:52:07,526 The banks and my investors know about this. 864 00:52:07,659 --> 00:52:10,128 A few dishonest carpet cleaners false-billed some customers. 865 00:52:10,262 --> 00:52:11,662 I fired them and paid everyone back. 866 00:52:11,763 --> 00:52:13,665 I don't see what the problem is. 867 00:52:13,799 --> 00:52:17,002 BROKER: The problem is that stock prices respond to news reports. 868 00:52:17,135 --> 00:52:19,104 And your stock is already down half a point. 869 00:52:19,238 --> 00:52:21,149 There's a lot of pressure to sell the shorts, Barry... 870 00:52:21,173 --> 00:52:24,443 Okay. Well, then hold them off! Okay? Forget the shorts! 871 00:52:26,378 --> 00:52:27,846 I'm gonna... 872 00:52:27,979 --> 00:52:29,779 I'm issuing a press release for this afternoon 873 00:52:29,881 --> 00:52:31,250 that'll clear this whole thing up. 874 00:52:31,383 --> 00:52:33,985 Our stock will be back up to normal in no time. 875 00:52:36,522 --> 00:52:38,324 I have to go. I'll call you back. 876 00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:41,993 First Bank of Santa Barbara is 877 00:52:42,127 --> 00:52:44,896 calling in their $7 million loan because of the article. 878 00:52:48,267 --> 00:52:50,369 What about NorthRidge National? The same. 879 00:52:53,305 --> 00:52:55,140 That's nine million bucks, Mikey. 880 00:52:55,274 --> 00:52:57,075 Barry, there's one more thing. 881 00:52:59,511 --> 00:53:01,347 Saxon sold all of his shares. 882 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,514 He what? 883 00:53:05,517 --> 00:53:06,818 Okay. 884 00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:10,489 Mike, I need you to do something for me, all right? 885 00:53:10,622 --> 00:53:13,492 I need you to draft a press release, okay? 886 00:53:13,625 --> 00:53:16,495 Say that Payne Cameron has fully investigated all of these charges 887 00:53:16,628 --> 00:53:18,397 and cleared ZZZZ Best of any wrongdoing. 888 00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:20,098 Are you kidding me? 889 00:53:22,033 --> 00:53:23,469 Just do it. 890 00:53:30,409 --> 00:53:31,843 Amy? 891 00:53:32,644 --> 00:53:33,712 Amy! 892 00:53:35,414 --> 00:53:36,548 Amy! 893 00:53:36,682 --> 00:53:37,859 People keep calling us, Barry. 894 00:53:37,883 --> 00:53:39,485 Thank you for the observation. 895 00:53:39,618 --> 00:53:42,921 Amy, now listen, I need you... I need you to... 896 00:53:43,054 --> 00:53:47,359 I need you to schedule a press conference for this afternoon, okay? 897 00:53:47,493 --> 00:53:49,194 How do I do that? 898 00:53:49,328 --> 00:53:51,930 Time to earn your paycheck, Amy. Go! 899 00:53:57,436 --> 00:53:58,537 This is Barry. 900 00:54:06,244 --> 00:54:10,181 Hey! Look on the bright side. All right? 901 00:54:10,316 --> 00:54:11,993 At least they're only talking about credit card fraud, 902 00:54:12,017 --> 00:54:14,720 not the restoration jobs, right? 903 00:54:14,853 --> 00:54:17,222 Mr. Minkow, can you comment on why 904 00:54:17,356 --> 00:54:19,325 your stock went down four points today? 905 00:54:19,458 --> 00:54:21,698 Absolutely. See, that was a reaction to the LA Times story 906 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,330 about a past problem we had with some dishonest carpet cleaners. 907 00:54:24,463 --> 00:54:26,532 The banks and our investors already knew about this. 908 00:54:26,665 --> 00:54:31,102 But is it true that the SEC has ordered an investigation of ZZZZ Best? 909 00:54:31,236 --> 00:54:33,472 I'm unaware of any such investigation. 910 00:54:33,605 --> 00:54:35,307 Your prospectus states that 911 00:54:35,441 --> 00:54:38,510 you completed a $7 million restoration project in Sacramento 912 00:54:38,644 --> 00:54:41,246 and yet, ZZZZ Best never filed a permit for such construction. 913 00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:44,350 And in fact, ZZZZ Best doesn't even hold a contractor's license. 914 00:54:44,483 --> 00:54:45,951 How do you explain that? 915 00:54:49,621 --> 00:54:51,866 I'm going to have to refer that question to our legal staff. 916 00:54:51,890 --> 00:54:53,291 You know, that's all for today. 917 00:54:53,425 --> 00:54:55,427 I'm so sorry. I have to go. Thank you all. 918 00:54:55,561 --> 00:54:58,397 Mr. Minkow, how do you feel about Payne Cameron resigning? 919 00:55:00,432 --> 00:55:02,167 We have more questions, Mr. Minkow. 920 00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:06,338 We are here, live, on ZZZZ Best's property. Barry Minkow... 921 00:55:17,516 --> 00:55:20,251 I can't believe that Payne Cameron resigned. 922 00:55:20,386 --> 00:55:22,921 What did you think was going to happen, Barry? 923 00:55:27,025 --> 00:55:28,694 What's that supposed to mean? 924 00:55:29,961 --> 00:55:33,699 It's over, man. It's over. 925 00:55:33,832 --> 00:55:35,567 No, it's not. 926 00:55:35,701 --> 00:55:39,371 No, it's not over. I can fix this. Okay 927 00:55:39,505 --> 00:55:41,082 I can fix this just like I fixed everything. 928 00:55:41,106 --> 00:55:42,508 If I fixed it before I can fix it... 929 00:55:42,641 --> 00:55:45,043 Barry, you can't fix this. Yes, I can! 930 00:55:46,612 --> 00:55:48,046 Do you still not get it? 931 00:55:49,415 --> 00:55:51,617 You can't climb out of this one, Barry. 932 00:55:53,985 --> 00:55:56,722 What do you know, huh, Mike? 933 00:55:58,323 --> 00:56:01,993 You have no idea what it takes to build something like this. 934 00:56:02,127 --> 00:56:04,963 Yeah... You know, actually, I do. 935 00:56:05,096 --> 00:56:06,698 You know... 936 00:56:06,832 --> 00:56:12,938 All it takes is an incredible ability to lie. 937 00:56:13,071 --> 00:56:16,442 I mean, that's all you did, Barry. 938 00:56:16,575 --> 00:56:19,745 You're a phony. You used everyone. 939 00:56:21,046 --> 00:56:22,481 I used people? 940 00:56:23,649 --> 00:56:24,850 You used people. 941 00:56:24,983 --> 00:56:28,454 You used me for money, and popularity. 942 00:56:28,587 --> 00:56:30,489 You sucked me dry, man. Are you serious? 943 00:56:30,622 --> 00:56:32,290 Absolutely! 944 00:56:32,424 --> 00:56:35,594 You know, for somebody so smart, you can be really stupid. 945 00:56:35,727 --> 00:56:37,095 You... 946 00:56:38,497 --> 00:56:40,432 You are a loser! 947 00:56:40,566 --> 00:56:42,977 You betrayed me. You were a loser when I met you in high school. 948 00:56:43,001 --> 00:56:44,536 I'm done. You're a loser now, 949 00:56:44,670 --> 00:56:46,180 and you'll always be a loser! I'm done with you. 950 00:56:46,204 --> 00:56:48,574 I'm done with you. Barry. 951 00:56:48,707 --> 00:56:50,776 I'm done with you! 952 00:56:53,011 --> 00:56:59,017 You lying, self-centered, backstabbing son of a bitch. I'm done with you! 953 00:57:15,701 --> 00:57:17,469 Payne Cameron's team was pretty angry. 954 00:57:17,603 --> 00:57:19,237 They said the press release was a lie. 955 00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:22,474 They said they never investigated the charges. 956 00:57:25,043 --> 00:57:26,444 Is that true? 957 00:57:31,483 --> 00:57:33,418 Anyway, the phone's ringing off the hook. 958 00:57:33,552 --> 00:57:38,690 The Journal, the Times, everyone wants to speak with you. 959 00:58:06,552 --> 00:58:10,922 Barry, what do you want me to do? 960 00:58:11,056 --> 00:58:12,758 I'll be back in a hour. 961 00:58:24,269 --> 00:58:29,474 Mr. Minkow, you are a dangerous man. 962 00:58:29,608 --> 00:58:32,978 You do not have a conscience. 963 00:58:33,111 --> 00:58:38,984 You have been convicted of 57 counts of fraud, Mr. Minkow, 964 00:58:39,117 --> 00:58:46,925 and you are hereby ordered to serve a term of 25 years in jail. 965 00:58:47,058 --> 00:58:49,027 And you are further ordered 966 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,331 to make restitution of $26 million to the individuals, 967 00:58:53,464 --> 00:58:56,201 some of whom you see here today, 968 00:58:56,334 --> 00:59:01,873 whose lives you have severely impacted by your actions... 969 00:59:02,007 --> 00:59:09,347 The banks and the companies you pulled into your elaborate scheme. 970 00:59:13,418 --> 00:59:15,186 This court is adjourned. 971 00:59:46,184 --> 00:59:48,119 You know, the 2.5 million people 972 00:59:48,253 --> 00:59:50,155 that are busting the seams of our prisons, 973 00:59:50,288 --> 00:59:53,058 both state and federally across the U.S., 974 00:59:53,191 --> 00:59:55,393 all of us had one thing in common. 975 00:59:55,526 --> 00:59:57,462 None of us ever planned on being there. 976 00:59:59,064 --> 01:00:02,233 We all started with the best of intentions. 977 01:00:02,367 --> 01:00:05,336 I just wanted to be accepted. 978 01:00:05,470 --> 01:00:11,342 But it was that vehicle that got me that acceptance that swallowed me whole. 979 01:00:13,244 --> 01:00:17,082 You see, as far back as I can remember, I was dubbed "the whiz kid," 980 01:00:17,215 --> 01:00:20,485 and I had everything I ever wanted. 981 01:00:20,618 --> 01:00:23,722 Until it all came crashing down. 982 01:00:23,855 --> 01:00:26,958 Until I realized that my whole life was a con. 983 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:31,730 One big giant con. 984 01:00:31,863 --> 01:00:36,467 Barry was compelled, compelled to play himself in the film, 985 01:00:36,601 --> 01:00:40,571 because that's the only way he could reach the final completion 986 01:00:40,706 --> 01:00:42,607 of being the hero in his own story. 987 01:00:42,741 --> 01:00:46,244 It was not enough to have an A-list actor. It had to be him. 988 01:00:46,377 --> 01:00:48,914 The acting that Barry did in the film, 989 01:00:49,047 --> 01:00:51,216 was, I thought, very, very, very good. 990 01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:54,252 I know when he wanted to make this movie... 991 01:00:54,385 --> 01:00:56,888 There again, I said, "Barry, be very, very careful." 992 01:00:57,022 --> 01:00:59,257 I certainly advised him not to play himself. 993 01:00:59,390 --> 01:01:01,592 I said, "You're making a mistake." 994 01:01:01,727 --> 01:01:04,963 Sorry. Hold on. There you go. 995 01:01:07,866 --> 01:01:09,634 There we go. 996 01:01:11,236 --> 01:01:13,138 Mind if I smoke? 997 01:01:13,271 --> 01:01:14,472 No, go ahead. 998 01:01:14,605 --> 01:01:16,541 I don't smoke. I mean, not anymore. 999 01:01:16,674 --> 01:01:19,845 I was just curious what a preacher felt about that. 1000 01:01:19,978 --> 01:01:22,881 But now, unfortunately, I'm hooked on these. 1001 01:01:23,014 --> 01:01:27,552 I got to go to rehab for these. Want one? 1002 01:01:27,685 --> 01:01:30,121 No. It's the red one. 1003 01:01:30,255 --> 01:01:31,556 Go ahead. No. 1004 01:01:33,491 --> 01:01:34,726 What are you thinking about? 1005 01:01:35,761 --> 01:01:36,761 Nah. 1006 01:01:38,696 --> 01:01:39,765 Peanut. 1007 01:01:39,898 --> 01:01:40,999 What's that? 1008 01:01:41,132 --> 01:01:42,901 James "Peanut" Long. 1009 01:01:43,034 --> 01:01:45,670 The reason they call me the Jailhouse Preacher. 1010 01:01:45,804 --> 01:01:50,208 Oh. You're gonna tell me how you found Jesus? 1011 01:01:50,341 --> 01:01:52,277 I didn't find Jesus. 1012 01:01:52,410 --> 01:01:56,581 He found me in the form of a 250-pound black guy. 1013 01:01:59,184 --> 01:02:00,451 ♪ Yeah 1014 01:02:03,855 --> 01:02:05,390 ♪ uh-huh 1015 01:02:07,058 --> 01:02:11,462 ♪ It's a matter of life or a matter after of death ♪ 1016 01:02:11,596 --> 01:02:13,631 Not bad for a guy your size. 1017 01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:16,467 Size ain't nothing. 1018 01:02:17,502 --> 01:02:19,337 The body is your temple. 1019 01:02:20,605 --> 01:02:24,976 Muscles ain't strength. 1020 01:02:30,515 --> 01:02:32,517 Real strength is in here. 1021 01:02:34,619 --> 01:02:39,290 You know, the most dangerous part of your story 1022 01:02:39,424 --> 01:02:41,226 is that throughout the whole ordeal 1023 01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:42,760 you actually convinced yourself 1024 01:02:42,894 --> 01:02:45,630 that you were helping hundreds of employees, 1025 01:02:45,763 --> 01:02:47,332 when in reality, you were just... 1026 01:02:47,465 --> 01:02:50,035 Helping myself. That's all I was doing. 1027 01:02:50,168 --> 01:02:54,139 Hindsight is 20/20, and look where it got me. 1028 01:02:54,272 --> 01:02:56,541 Locked up in a prison cell. 1029 01:02:57,608 --> 01:02:59,978 Well, we're both locked up. 1030 01:03:00,111 --> 01:03:03,281 Difference is, I'm at peace with what I've done. 1031 01:03:03,414 --> 01:03:04,715 And I'm getting there. 1032 01:03:04,850 --> 01:03:06,717 You're pretending to get there. 1033 01:03:09,187 --> 01:03:10,355 You don't think I'm sincere? 1034 01:03:10,488 --> 01:03:12,790 I think you're trying to find the Lord, 1035 01:03:12,924 --> 01:03:14,592 so you can hang out with the Jesus freaks 1036 01:03:14,725 --> 01:03:18,129 instead of the skinheads to make it in here. 1037 01:03:18,263 --> 01:03:20,465 Whatever. Yeah. Whatever. 1038 01:03:20,598 --> 01:03:23,835 Why do you come to church on Sunday 1039 01:03:23,969 --> 01:03:28,239 Is it because you're really trying to change your life? 1040 01:03:28,373 --> 01:03:30,641 Or is it just another Barry Minkow con? 1041 01:03:30,775 --> 01:03:34,645 ♪ What if I told you... A second chance to live ♪ 1042 01:03:34,779 --> 01:03:36,747 One thing to remember is the fraud artist 1043 01:03:36,882 --> 01:03:39,050 doesn't see himself as a criminal. 1044 01:03:39,184 --> 01:03:43,021 The fraud is merely a means to a well-justified end. 1045 01:03:43,154 --> 01:03:46,057 Once the scheme works, everybody gets paid off, 1046 01:03:46,191 --> 01:03:47,725 nobody gets hurt. 1047 01:03:48,459 --> 01:03:49,794 Voila. 1048 01:03:50,628 --> 01:03:53,464 Okay, let's move on here. 1049 01:03:55,934 --> 01:04:00,238 You know as well as I do, when the devil comes at you at first, 1050 01:04:00,371 --> 01:04:04,242 he looks good, sounds good, feels good. 1051 01:04:04,375 --> 01:04:08,546 Then, when it's too late, the beast comes out. 1052 01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:10,515 You got that right. 1053 01:04:12,183 --> 01:04:13,751 Where were you 11 years ago? 1054 01:04:14,785 --> 01:04:17,655 Well, I had a lot of growing up to do. 1055 01:04:17,788 --> 01:04:22,093 Like I said, ain't no accidents in life. 1056 01:04:22,227 --> 01:04:24,829 We bought shares for five cents apiece, 1057 01:04:24,963 --> 01:04:26,464 then dumped them on the market 1058 01:04:26,597 --> 01:04:28,866 when it hit 12 and 13 bucks. 1059 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,502 That was the part that was illegal. 1060 01:04:31,636 --> 01:04:34,772 So, it was Saxon that got you involved in the penny stocks, right? 1061 01:04:34,906 --> 01:04:37,142 And that's when he turned his Wall Street connections 1062 01:04:37,275 --> 01:04:39,777 onto the stock, they bought blocks of it, 1063 01:04:39,911 --> 01:04:41,712 the price shot through the roof 1064 01:04:41,846 --> 01:04:45,250 and I was worth millions instantly. 1065 01:04:45,383 --> 01:04:46,851 Insider trading. 1066 01:04:55,526 --> 01:04:56,861 Hey! 1067 01:04:57,428 --> 01:04:58,663 Hey! 1068 01:05:00,065 --> 01:05:02,800 Hey, you need to leave him alone. 1069 01:05:02,934 --> 01:05:04,902 Yeah? You need to mind your own business. 1070 01:05:05,036 --> 01:05:06,571 Hey, I don't want any trouble. 1071 01:05:07,672 --> 01:05:09,807 I said mind your own business. 1072 01:05:09,941 --> 01:05:12,543 I will when you let him go. 1073 01:05:12,677 --> 01:05:14,345 Too bad. Can't you hear? 1074 01:05:14,479 --> 01:05:16,657 Finish your shower. I said take a walk, man. Take a walk. 1075 01:05:16,681 --> 01:05:18,950 I don't think so. Don't think so? 1076 01:05:21,386 --> 01:05:26,057 I know I'm not seeing what I think I'm seeing. 1077 01:05:29,327 --> 01:05:35,266 'Cause if you're trying to hurt him, you're trying to hurt me. 1078 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,701 Let's get out of here. 1079 01:05:42,573 --> 01:05:44,909 Lord Jesus, I want to thank you 1080 01:05:45,043 --> 01:05:47,878 for making me a God-fearing man. 1081 01:05:48,013 --> 01:05:50,648 And having me not beat anyone's ass. 1082 01:05:50,781 --> 01:05:53,851 In Jesus' name, Amen. 1083 01:06:00,725 --> 01:06:02,593 I'm proud of you, whiz kid. 1084 01:06:03,461 --> 01:06:04,795 You did all the work. 1085 01:06:04,929 --> 01:06:07,332 I don't know why you'd be proud of me. 1086 01:06:07,465 --> 01:06:09,067 Changing. 1087 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,304 You helped a weaker brother who was outnumbered. 1088 01:06:13,438 --> 01:06:18,409 Shows that you're changing from your selfish-ass, self-centered ways. 1089 01:06:18,543 --> 01:06:22,780 Remember. The Lord always looks out for the underdog. 1090 01:06:24,782 --> 01:06:28,286 BARRY: I don't know if it was Peanut or the broken nose. 1091 01:06:28,419 --> 01:06:32,057 I guess God has a way of taking care of the details. 1092 01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:38,896 And it was at this moment that life took on new clarity for me. 1093 01:06:39,030 --> 01:06:41,699 See, to win the game, I had to stay in the pocket, 1094 01:06:41,832 --> 01:06:44,001 and face the pain. 1095 01:06:44,135 --> 01:06:47,705 It was then I learned that to win in life 1096 01:06:47,838 --> 01:06:50,741 meant no more backing down. 1097 01:06:52,009 --> 01:06:53,711 No more shortcuts. 1098 01:06:54,712 --> 01:06:56,847 No more compromises. 1099 01:06:57,848 --> 01:06:59,384 No more lies. 1100 01:07:03,254 --> 01:07:04,889 And no more cons. 1101 01:07:35,453 --> 01:07:37,488 How you feeling? 1102 01:07:37,622 --> 01:07:41,426 DAN: I question whether some of the stuff he did was for the movie 1103 01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:43,060 or the story of the movie. 1104 01:07:43,194 --> 01:07:45,496 I never felt better. Thank you. 1105 01:07:45,630 --> 01:07:48,299 DAN: I question whether Peanut was a real person or not. 1106 01:07:48,433 --> 01:07:50,401 It's a pretty good throw. 1107 01:07:50,535 --> 01:07:53,771 MIKEY: I don't think Barry could throw a football nine feet. 1108 01:07:53,904 --> 01:07:56,141 Truth plus time equal trust. 1109 01:07:56,274 --> 01:08:00,945 A lot of truth, over a long period of time equals trust. 1110 01:08:01,078 --> 01:08:03,948 And no shortcuts to that equation either, you know? 1111 01:08:13,858 --> 01:08:18,329 Yeah, well, thanks for the time. 1112 01:08:23,268 --> 01:08:25,536 BARRY: Like I said from the beginning, 1113 01:08:25,670 --> 01:08:28,639 I don't want to spend the rest of my life in witness protection. 1114 01:08:28,773 --> 01:08:33,344 I'm not going to testify against Mr. Saxon, not now, not ever. 1115 01:08:33,478 --> 01:08:35,146 Excuse me. 1116 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,815 JERRI: I never felt that Barry was rehabilitated. 1117 01:08:37,948 --> 01:08:41,352 FRANZESE: I believe his transformation was real. 1118 01:08:41,486 --> 01:08:46,257 MIKEY: Everyone in prison knew that if you found Jesus 1119 01:08:46,391 --> 01:08:50,795 that would look good on your record to maybe get early release. 1120 01:08:50,928 --> 01:08:53,097 BARRY: Truth plus time equal trust. 1121 01:08:53,231 --> 01:08:57,968 A lot of truth, over a long period of time equals trust. 1122 01:08:58,102 --> 01:09:00,738 And no shortcuts to that equation either, you know. 1123 01:09:04,275 --> 01:09:08,279 All right. We've heard the testimony. 1124 01:09:08,413 --> 01:09:13,150 Now, it's time to decide based on Mr. Minkow's present character. 1125 01:09:26,497 --> 01:09:30,435 FRANZESE: You know, he came out of prison raring to go. 1126 01:09:30,568 --> 01:09:34,205 But I didn't see it coming with the church, quite honestly. 1127 01:09:34,339 --> 01:09:39,577 Mr. Minkow, we have gone through your application 1128 01:09:39,710 --> 01:09:42,046 and enjoyed your guest sermon, 1129 01:09:42,179 --> 01:09:47,685 but now we'd like to hear the answer to the following question. 1130 01:09:47,818 --> 01:09:49,554 Why should we hire you? 1131 01:09:52,823 --> 01:09:55,025 Well, on paper, you shouldn't. 1132 01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:57,362 Especially when you consider the fact that 1133 01:09:57,495 --> 01:10:00,865 the other 199 applicants aren't convicted felons. 1134 01:10:05,970 --> 01:10:08,839 If you hire me, I can promise you one thing, 1135 01:10:08,973 --> 01:10:11,576 that no one will work harder, if for no other reason 1136 01:10:11,709 --> 01:10:15,480 than out of gratitude for being given the opportunity 1137 01:10:15,613 --> 01:10:17,815 to pastor such a great church. 1138 01:10:20,818 --> 01:10:23,454 You see, I'm naive enough to believe that 1139 01:10:23,588 --> 01:10:27,057 if you want to find the best employee, the best place to find one 1140 01:10:27,191 --> 01:10:29,527 is someone who's just come out of prison, 1141 01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:31,296 who didn't fail jail. 1142 01:10:32,497 --> 01:10:35,433 Who owes society for what they've... 1143 01:10:37,502 --> 01:10:39,437 I've done. 1144 01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:45,410 And what better way for a church to show their belief in the gospel of grace 1145 01:10:45,543 --> 01:10:50,214 than have a broken vessel like me proclaim that truth 1146 01:10:50,348 --> 01:10:52,583 from the pulpit of this very church. 1147 01:10:52,717 --> 01:10:56,921 And from a marketing standpoint, imagine a slogan, 1148 01:10:57,054 --> 01:10:58,623 "Community Bible Church, 1149 01:10:58,756 --> 01:11:02,627 the only church where the pastor is far worse than you." 1150 01:11:06,464 --> 01:11:09,064 FRANZESE: I'll tell ya, I don't know if you ever saw him in church, 1151 01:11:09,099 --> 01:11:11,936 in front of his congregation, he was masterful. 1152 01:11:12,069 --> 01:11:14,605 I mean, he had them in the palm of his hands. 1153 01:11:14,739 --> 01:11:17,041 Thank you. Nice to meet you. 1154 01:11:19,744 --> 01:11:21,145 Hi. Hi. 1155 01:11:21,278 --> 01:11:23,748 Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming. 1156 01:11:23,881 --> 01:11:27,952 First time here? Yes. Wonderful sermon, Pastor Minkow. 1157 01:11:28,085 --> 01:11:30,721 Pastor Barry, please. And this is my wife Lisa. 1158 01:11:30,855 --> 01:11:32,156 Hi, it's a pleasure to meet you. 1159 01:11:32,289 --> 01:11:34,892 Hi, I'm Ellen Scott and this is my husband Don. 1160 01:11:35,025 --> 01:11:36,527 Don, it's good to meet you. 1161 01:11:36,661 --> 01:11:38,863 We drove down from Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara? 1162 01:11:38,996 --> 01:11:42,132 Well, my sermons don't merit that kind of sacrifice, but thank you anyway. 1163 01:11:42,266 --> 01:11:45,135 We're here for another reason. 1164 01:11:47,372 --> 01:11:52,877 The past 10 years, we put all our retirement savings in a hedge fund. 1165 01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:56,046 About $250,000. 1166 01:11:56,180 --> 01:11:59,550 I earned that money, working 31 years as a longshoreman. 1167 01:11:59,684 --> 01:12:06,156 Now we're worried about the fund and thought you could check it out. 1168 01:12:06,290 --> 01:12:07,892 Ma'am, I'm sorry, I'm a pastor. 1169 01:12:08,025 --> 01:12:10,528 I don't really know a whole lot about hedge funds. 1170 01:12:10,661 --> 01:12:15,332 I'm really sorry. I... Look, why are you concerned? 1171 01:12:15,466 --> 01:12:18,035 The manager just moved his office to the Bahamas. 1172 01:12:18,168 --> 01:12:19,870 How long have they been around? 1173 01:12:20,004 --> 01:12:24,675 Twenty years. They're worth around $800 million, about 2,000 investors. 1174 01:12:24,809 --> 01:12:26,844 Twenty years, $800 million... 1175 01:12:26,977 --> 01:12:29,122 Sounds like you don't have a whole lot to worry about there. 1176 01:12:29,146 --> 01:12:33,851 Please, would you check on it? I brought the prospectus. 1177 01:12:33,984 --> 01:12:36,320 Why me? I'm not an expert in these kind of things. 1178 01:12:36,454 --> 01:12:40,525 Everything was fine until I tried to withdraw the money. 1179 01:12:40,658 --> 01:12:45,496 They've been telling me that it's in process for three months. 1180 01:12:45,630 --> 01:12:50,334 I told my nephew about it and he suggested I see you. 1181 01:12:50,468 --> 01:12:54,338 Your nephew. Who's your nephew? 1182 01:13:00,911 --> 01:13:02,079 Mike? 1183 01:13:02,980 --> 01:13:06,050 Mike 1184 01:13:07,852 --> 01:13:10,555 You look great. You look great. 1185 01:13:10,688 --> 01:13:12,590 Not even you can pull off that lie. 1186 01:13:12,723 --> 01:13:16,393 Well, I'm not exactly winning any beauty contests myself. 1187 01:13:16,527 --> 01:13:18,095 How you been? 1188 01:13:18,228 --> 01:13:20,831 I'll be a lot better if you tell me you can help out my uncle. 1189 01:13:20,965 --> 01:13:22,366 Yeah, well... 1190 01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:26,203 This hedge-fund guy, Lewis, right, he's telling me 1191 01:13:26,336 --> 01:13:29,674 he's getting monthly gains of 1.5% to 3.5%. 1192 01:13:29,807 --> 01:13:33,711 Yeah, I don't think anybody's quite that good. 1193 01:13:33,844 --> 01:13:35,212 Hedge fund, I... 1194 01:13:35,345 --> 01:13:37,090 You know, I got that letter you wrote to me from prison, 1195 01:13:37,114 --> 01:13:38,949 apologizing for what you did. 1196 01:13:39,083 --> 01:13:42,319 Were you lying then or are you lying now? 1197 01:13:42,453 --> 01:13:46,390 Look, Mike, I'm not the same guy I was before. 1198 01:13:46,524 --> 01:13:49,794 I'm married. I got the church. I got twins. 1199 01:13:49,927 --> 01:13:52,830 I teach the FBI in fraud prevention in Quantico. I... 1200 01:13:52,963 --> 01:13:56,567 I don't really want to hear about the good deeds of my old schoolmates. 1201 01:13:56,701 --> 01:13:58,712 You can tell me you're working with lepers on an island, 1202 01:13:58,736 --> 01:14:02,072 my opinion of you wouldn't change, Barry. Okay? 1203 01:14:02,206 --> 01:14:05,042 I'll believe the change when I see it. 1204 01:14:05,175 --> 01:14:08,713 Anybody who's ever been in a financial dealing with me has lived to regret it. 1205 01:14:08,846 --> 01:14:10,280 You know that. 1206 01:14:10,414 --> 01:14:13,050 Yeah, I'll take my chances. 1207 01:14:13,183 --> 01:14:15,986 Besides, your rates are unbeatable. 1208 01:14:18,022 --> 01:14:21,391 Rates? I don't have any rates. 1209 01:14:21,526 --> 01:14:22,627 Exactly. 1210 01:14:25,663 --> 01:14:29,834 MIKEY: It became just too much of a temptation for him. 1211 01:14:29,967 --> 01:14:33,103 JERRI: Barry wanted to kind of do the Catch Me If You Can. 1212 01:14:33,237 --> 01:14:36,641 DAN: It was impressive. I mean, he really knew his stuff. 1213 01:14:36,774 --> 01:14:38,614 And there you have the six red flags for fraud. 1214 01:14:38,676 --> 01:14:41,178 Should you choose to commit those to memory, 1215 01:14:41,311 --> 01:14:42,823 you will be able to stop the next Barry Minkow 1216 01:14:42,847 --> 01:14:44,749 before he is the next Barry Minkow. 1217 01:14:44,882 --> 01:14:46,722 That's all I have today. Thanks for joining me. 1218 01:14:48,853 --> 01:14:53,390 DAN: I think Barry viewed himself as a hero in a sort of twisted way. 1219 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,995 Well, well, well. 1220 01:14:58,128 --> 01:14:59,697 If it ain't the preacher man. 1221 01:14:59,830 --> 01:15:02,366 Good to see you, Smooth. I see the streets have treated you well. 1222 01:15:02,499 --> 01:15:03,534 You look good, my friend. 1223 01:15:03,668 --> 01:15:05,269 Yeah, right. 1224 01:15:05,402 --> 01:15:08,038 You get a chance to look at the copy of the prospectus I sent you? 1225 01:15:08,172 --> 01:15:11,275 Does your PO officer know that you're associating with an ex 1226 01:15:11,408 --> 01:15:13,010 'Cause I will tell him. 1227 01:15:13,143 --> 01:15:16,180 I'm just trying to figure out how this Lewis guy has managed to 1228 01:15:16,313 --> 01:15:19,784 run a Ponzi scheme for 20 years without it imploding. 1229 01:15:19,917 --> 01:15:23,621 Either I'm missing something, or he's a financial genius. 1230 01:15:23,754 --> 01:15:25,355 Little of both. 1231 01:15:26,557 --> 01:15:30,260 Can I get a beer and a whiskey, please? 1232 01:15:34,999 --> 01:15:37,868 Look, I need your expertise. 1233 01:15:38,002 --> 01:15:40,137 You're the best there is. 1234 01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:48,278 You already got what you're looking for. 1235 01:15:52,817 --> 01:15:54,685 In the prospectus. 1236 01:15:54,819 --> 01:15:59,056 They practically advertise for people to invest their retirement money. 1237 01:15:59,189 --> 01:16:01,125 Yeah, so? 1238 01:16:01,258 --> 01:16:04,995 When people take their IRA money and put it into a fund like this one here, 1239 01:16:05,129 --> 01:16:08,933 there are heavy penalties if you pull out before you're 57 and a half. 1240 01:16:09,066 --> 01:16:13,470 They can invest the money all they want, they just can't pull it out. 1241 01:16:13,604 --> 01:16:17,608 The perfect ingredient for the successful Ponzi scheme. 1242 01:16:20,510 --> 01:16:23,848 JERRI: Barry becoming a fraud buster didn't surprise me. 1243 01:16:23,981 --> 01:16:28,052 You know, I always wondered if going undercover was an opportunity for him 1244 01:16:28,185 --> 01:16:32,690 to reenact his favorite '80s detective shows, and he had many, 1245 01:16:32,823 --> 01:16:37,394 or was it part of a larger plan to actually do good this time? 1246 01:16:42,967 --> 01:16:46,236 I don't know. I mean, I don't know. 1247 01:16:46,370 --> 01:16:49,674 Let me explain this to you. There's just a slight difference 1248 01:16:49,807 --> 01:16:52,209 between lecturing these guys and dodging bullets for them. 1249 01:16:52,342 --> 01:16:55,512 And it's not like you've been trained exactly. Not to a fine edge. 1250 01:16:55,646 --> 01:16:59,249 Look, the guy has been around for over 20 years and he's a ghost. 1251 01:16:59,383 --> 01:17:00,718 No license to sell securities, 1252 01:17:00,851 --> 01:17:02,495 no assets held in the fund's name, nothing. 1253 01:17:02,519 --> 01:17:04,088 Who the hell is this guy? 1254 01:17:04,221 --> 01:17:06,123 It's the only way. 1255 01:17:06,256 --> 01:17:09,626 I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll send Matt down to the Bahamas, 1256 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,528 and he'll record the meeting. 1257 01:17:11,662 --> 01:17:14,665 If there's any misreps, we'll move forward from there. 1258 01:17:14,799 --> 01:17:16,000 How's that? 1259 01:17:16,133 --> 01:17:18,402 Uh, just one last thing is, 1260 01:17:18,535 --> 01:17:21,471 I need Quantico to create me a bogus bank statement 1261 01:17:21,605 --> 01:17:25,242 showing the church has $5 million parked in a money market. 1262 01:17:25,375 --> 01:17:28,645 Wait a minute, how do you know this guy's gonna show up in the first place? 1263 01:17:28,779 --> 01:17:32,182 Any Ponzi scheme operator desperate for new cash 1264 01:17:32,316 --> 01:17:36,053 would do whatever it took to get their hands on new cash. He'll show. 1265 01:17:36,186 --> 01:17:37,186 Uh-huh. 1266 01:17:38,355 --> 01:17:41,692 So, you're asking me to give the carpet guy 1267 01:17:41,826 --> 01:17:46,731 this bank statement for $5 million. 1268 01:17:46,864 --> 01:17:47,965 What, am I crazy? 1269 01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:51,359 Ernest Hemingway said, "The only way you can learn 1270 01:17:51,468 --> 01:17:54,571 "to trust someone, is to trust 'em." 1271 01:17:54,705 --> 01:17:56,373 Ernest Hemingway said that? 1272 01:17:56,506 --> 01:18:00,544 I think so. Could have been Churchill. Or him. 1273 01:18:00,677 --> 01:18:02,279 MIKEY: "Barry, you don't understand. 1274 01:18:02,412 --> 01:18:04,248 "You're going undercover, you're not a cop. 1275 01:18:04,381 --> 01:18:05,983 "You're a pastor." 1276 01:18:06,116 --> 01:18:08,218 He said, "Listen, I'm uncovering fraud. 1277 01:18:08,352 --> 01:18:13,657 "I'm helping people that are getting scammed and victimized by others." 1278 01:18:13,791 --> 01:18:16,560 I said, "Barry, working so closely with the government, 1279 01:18:16,693 --> 01:18:19,797 "if you're wrong one time, you're in trouble." 1280 01:18:19,930 --> 01:18:22,199 You say Don Scott's a friend of yours? 1281 01:18:22,332 --> 01:18:24,268 Yeah, he's a member of our church, 1282 01:18:24,401 --> 01:18:26,837 and the church has been growing so much lately 1283 01:18:26,971 --> 01:18:29,106 that we've established a building fund, 1284 01:18:29,239 --> 01:18:32,142 to purchase some land to accommodate the growth. 1285 01:18:32,276 --> 01:18:35,312 We wanted to invest that money, have it working for us until we build. 1286 01:18:35,445 --> 01:18:38,883 Well, it would grow here, I assure you. How much do you have to invest? 1287 01:18:39,016 --> 01:18:41,451 A little over $5 million. 1288 01:18:41,585 --> 01:18:45,455 Those returns that you've been generating, can they be corroborated? 1289 01:18:45,589 --> 01:18:49,693 Yes. We earn 18% to 40% annual. A 20-year track record. 1290 01:18:49,827 --> 01:18:52,396 And 800 million? Eight hundred million. Yes, correct. 1291 01:18:52,529 --> 01:18:54,631 $800 million fund. 1292 01:18:54,765 --> 01:18:57,510 You just gotta forgive me. Numbers like that get me a little bit nervous. 1293 01:18:57,534 --> 01:19:00,938 You are aware of my past, I was convicted of securities fraud? 1294 01:19:01,071 --> 01:19:02,739 I read about you, yes. 1295 01:19:02,873 --> 01:19:06,143 I like how you disclose it up-front on your church's website, too. 1296 01:19:06,276 --> 01:19:09,780 I'll be happy to work with you. We all make mistakes. 1297 01:19:09,914 --> 01:19:12,182 You were just a kid. You got greedy. 1298 01:19:12,316 --> 01:19:16,420 I have the money market account, bank statement 1299 01:19:16,553 --> 01:19:19,790 to prove that the money is waiting there, you can call the bank. 1300 01:19:19,924 --> 01:19:21,792 It's clear funds, waiting to wire. 1301 01:19:21,926 --> 01:19:24,895 Well, thank you for coming, Pastor. I look forward to working with you. 1302 01:19:25,029 --> 01:19:26,663 Well, I do appreciate you seeing me, 1303 01:19:26,797 --> 01:19:30,901 and just as soon as you send Don Scott his $250,000, 1304 01:19:31,035 --> 01:19:33,570 we'll wire these funds right to your bank account. 1305 01:19:35,973 --> 01:19:40,444 It's just that, Mr. Scott had requested a $250,000 withdrawal, 1306 01:19:40,577 --> 01:19:42,337 and apparently in your move to the Bahamas... 1307 01:19:42,412 --> 01:19:45,415 You tell Mr. Scott, he'll have his money in 24 hours. 1308 01:19:45,549 --> 01:19:47,684 Thank you for coming. Terrific. Mr. Lewis, 1309 01:19:47,818 --> 01:19:49,954 thank you so much for your time. 1310 01:19:52,589 --> 01:19:54,291 Well, hey, Don, good to see you. 1311 01:19:54,424 --> 01:19:58,963 Hey, Barry. Well, Lewis wired me half my money this morning. 1312 01:19:59,096 --> 01:20:01,098 Half? Yeah. 1313 01:20:01,231 --> 01:20:05,970 He said that the custodian of American Investment didn't put in my paperwork, 1314 01:20:06,103 --> 01:20:08,138 so he sent it out of his own pocket, 1315 01:20:08,272 --> 01:20:12,376 and he said he'd wire me the other half very soon. 1316 01:20:12,509 --> 01:20:15,212 You know, Don, I may have underestimated just how 1317 01:20:15,345 --> 01:20:17,581 strapped for cash Mr. Lewis is. 1318 01:20:19,583 --> 01:20:23,687 Why would he risk five million new fresh dollars 1319 01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:26,456 by sending only half of what he promised just days ago? 1320 01:20:26,590 --> 01:20:27,870 There's only one answer to that. 1321 01:20:27,992 --> 01:20:29,712 And that is, he doesn't have the full amount, 1322 01:20:29,826 --> 01:20:33,397 and he is much more cash-strapped than I first anticipated. 1323 01:20:33,530 --> 01:20:35,365 You're beginning to worry me, Barry. 1324 01:20:35,499 --> 01:20:39,603 Look, Don, I don't want you to worry about a thing. I got this under control. 1325 01:20:39,736 --> 01:20:42,706 Okay? Trust me on this. It'll be okay. 1326 01:20:42,839 --> 01:20:44,674 I'll take care of it. 1327 01:20:50,314 --> 01:20:51,315 Hello? 1328 01:20:51,448 --> 01:20:53,918 Pastor Minkow, Derek Lewis. 1329 01:20:54,051 --> 01:20:56,531 My understanding was you were going to deposit your church money 1330 01:20:56,653 --> 01:20:59,289 two days after Mr. Scott got his withdrawal fund. 1331 01:20:59,423 --> 01:21:03,894 It's my understanding that Mr. Scott only received half of his funds. 1332 01:21:04,028 --> 01:21:05,605 Well, there was a problem with the paperwork. 1333 01:21:05,629 --> 01:21:07,597 He'll get the balance tomorrow or the next day. 1334 01:21:07,731 --> 01:21:12,436 Terrific. And once he does, the church will wire the funds as I had promised. 1335 01:21:12,569 --> 01:21:15,005 Hey, that's my money. I control who gets paid and when. 1336 01:21:15,139 --> 01:21:17,307 No ex-con's gonna run a number on me. 1337 01:21:17,441 --> 01:21:20,477 You know something, Mr. Lewis, you're not as smart as you think you are. 1338 01:21:20,610 --> 01:21:22,112 I know exactly what you're doing. 1339 01:21:22,246 --> 01:21:25,182 You have no idea what you're talking about. 1340 01:21:25,315 --> 01:21:28,352 The beauty of grace is that good people don't go to heaven, 1341 01:21:28,485 --> 01:21:29,753 forgiven people go to heaven. 1342 01:21:29,886 --> 01:21:31,655 That's the... Barry, what is going on? 1343 01:21:31,788 --> 01:21:35,025 Excuse me a second. Just relax for a minute. Excuse me. 1344 01:21:35,159 --> 01:21:37,827 Just relax for a minute, would you, Mike 1345 01:21:37,962 --> 01:21:39,629 I'm gonna punch you in the face 1346 01:21:39,763 --> 01:21:41,565 the next time you tell me to relax, all right? 1347 01:21:41,698 --> 01:21:44,935 Derek Lewis is suing my uncle for $10 million, 1348 01:21:45,069 --> 01:21:47,537 for fraud and misrepresentation. 1349 01:21:47,671 --> 01:21:49,849 Yeah, I know. He's doing the same thing to me and the church. 1350 01:21:49,873 --> 01:21:52,242 The cost for the suit is gonna wipe them out! 1351 01:21:52,376 --> 01:21:55,712 Okay, I need you to stop doing what you are doing. Okay? 1352 01:21:55,845 --> 01:21:58,491 They've got half their money back. That's as good as they're gonna get. 1353 01:21:58,515 --> 01:21:59,349 Just walk away. 1354 01:21:59,483 --> 01:22:01,085 I can't, Mike. 1355 01:22:01,218 --> 01:22:03,887 There's a lot more at stake than what you're thinking. 1356 01:22:04,021 --> 01:22:06,323 It's gonna be okay. Just trust me. 1357 01:22:06,456 --> 01:22:08,692 Trust you. Where have I heard that before? 1358 01:22:08,825 --> 01:22:11,728 Trusting you ruined my life, Barry. 1359 01:22:11,861 --> 01:22:15,565 FRANZESE: Barry's intentions were always good, at least according to him. 1360 01:22:15,699 --> 01:22:17,734 But he had a lack of regard for the law 1361 01:22:17,867 --> 01:22:19,869 and eventually, that became an issue. 1362 01:22:20,004 --> 01:22:22,539 But Barry was very hard to say no to. 1363 01:22:24,308 --> 01:22:27,177 You don't have to convince me your intentions are good, Barry. 1364 01:22:27,311 --> 01:22:31,148 I know you've been making restitution, even from prison. 1365 01:22:31,281 --> 01:22:34,060 I owe this community a lot more than just money, Michael, you know that. 1366 01:22:34,084 --> 01:22:37,721 Yes, but what you're asking me to do, I cannot do. 1367 01:22:37,854 --> 01:22:39,589 I might lose my job. 1368 01:22:39,723 --> 01:22:45,195 Look, Michael, I got Mr. Lewis on tape saying he has $800 million 1369 01:22:45,329 --> 01:22:48,465 in his accounts at this bank and if he does, that's wonderful. 1370 01:22:48,598 --> 01:22:51,068 But if he doesn't, he's in the process of destroying 1371 01:22:51,201 --> 01:22:54,071 the lives of thousands of people in this community. 1372 01:22:54,204 --> 01:22:56,506 I need your help. I can't just... 1373 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,642 We can't just let that happen. 1374 01:22:58,775 --> 01:23:01,911 All I want you to do is check the balances. 1375 01:23:02,046 --> 01:23:04,214 If they're nowhere near $800 million, 1376 01:23:04,348 --> 01:23:07,551 then just get out of that chair, walk over to that window, 1377 01:23:07,684 --> 01:23:10,454 look outside and then I'll know for sure. 1378 01:23:10,587 --> 01:23:15,125 All I need are those balances. Please, Michael, I'll leave either way. 1379 01:23:15,259 --> 01:23:19,329 All the investment company's accounts are tied to this tax ID number. 1380 01:23:23,167 --> 01:23:27,003 You have to help me here. You have to believe in me. 1381 01:23:27,137 --> 01:23:28,338 Please. 1382 01:23:55,665 --> 01:23:57,801 Man, looks like it's going to rain. 1383 01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:06,176 Gamble had me do some digging the past few days on my lunch break. 1384 01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:08,078 What's this? 1385 01:24:08,212 --> 01:24:11,315 Articles of incorporation from a Tijuana company called Olacane. 1386 01:24:11,448 --> 01:24:12,749 It's Dowry's cash cow. 1387 01:24:14,050 --> 01:24:15,861 They get all their factoring contracts from there. 1388 01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:17,621 It's run by some guy named Oliveros. 1389 01:24:17,754 --> 01:24:19,289 They operate out of 300 square feet 1390 01:24:19,423 --> 01:24:22,058 and share a secretary with three other businesses. 1391 01:24:22,192 --> 01:24:24,394 The restoration equivalent of my Ponzi scheme. 1392 01:24:24,528 --> 01:24:29,299 No way that a 300 square-foot office in Mexico can substantiate 1393 01:24:29,433 --> 01:24:32,068 hundreds of millions in factoring business. 1394 01:24:32,202 --> 01:24:34,003 Gamble says, "Merry Christmas." 1395 01:24:36,606 --> 01:24:37,707 Hello? 1396 01:24:37,841 --> 01:24:39,809 Mr. Lewis, this is Barry Minkow calling. 1397 01:24:39,943 --> 01:24:41,044 How'd you get this number? 1398 01:24:41,178 --> 01:24:42,646 You have your spies. I have mine. 1399 01:24:42,779 --> 01:24:44,214 What do you want? 1400 01:24:44,348 --> 01:24:45,958 I'd like to meet you in Los Angeles tomorrow 1401 01:24:45,982 --> 01:24:48,185 and I'd like you to bring the rest of Don Scott's money. 1402 01:24:48,318 --> 01:24:49,318 You gotta be joking. 1403 01:24:49,353 --> 01:24:51,121 5:00 p.m., LA Resort Hotel. 1404 01:24:51,255 --> 01:24:53,866 Unless of course you'd like me to take the information I've obtained 1405 01:24:53,890 --> 01:24:55,659 and turn it over to the FBI or the Journal. 1406 01:24:55,792 --> 01:24:57,361 And what do you have on me, Mr. Minkow? 1407 01:24:57,494 --> 01:25:00,330 There's only $387,000 in your bank accounts 1408 01:25:00,464 --> 01:25:02,508 instead of the $800 million that you purport to have. 1409 01:25:02,532 --> 01:25:03,833 You just wait a minute. 1410 01:25:03,967 --> 01:25:05,935 You, Mr. Lewis, are running a Ponzi scheme. 1411 01:25:06,069 --> 01:25:08,472 No, you're the ex-con. You're running the scam. 1412 01:25:08,605 --> 01:25:09,806 I'm doing the work of God. 1413 01:25:09,939 --> 01:25:10,979 Hey, I said wait a minute. 1414 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,442 Protecting the weak. 1415 01:25:12,576 --> 01:25:16,280 I'll see you tomorrow, LA Resort Hotel, 5:00 p.m. 1416 01:25:16,413 --> 01:25:18,047 Good night, Mr. Lewis. 1417 01:25:27,924 --> 01:25:30,227 Lisa, I wanted to tell you something, 1418 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,363 but I wanted to make sure that it came out right. 1419 01:25:33,497 --> 01:25:34,798 So I wanted to be careful. 1420 01:25:34,931 --> 01:25:40,204 Barry, for once in your life, don't speak, okay? 1421 01:25:42,806 --> 01:25:44,974 Look, I just want to say that 1422 01:25:46,510 --> 01:25:50,347 I see the people who always second-guess your motives. 1423 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:54,518 I see them. I see the people who always raise an eyebrow. 1424 01:25:54,651 --> 01:25:56,986 And I know that you struggle, okay? 1425 01:25:58,955 --> 01:26:00,457 I know that you struggle knowing that 1426 01:26:00,590 --> 01:26:04,127 most people deep down will never trust a word that you say. 1427 01:26:07,130 --> 01:26:09,065 I mean, 'cause let's be real, Barry, 1428 01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:12,202 most people will walk away, most people are going to just shake their heads 1429 01:26:12,336 --> 01:26:15,205 and steer clear of you and think that you're a con forever. 1430 01:26:18,875 --> 01:26:21,478 But that's not me. 1431 01:26:21,611 --> 01:26:25,382 I appreciate that more then you'll ever know. 1432 01:26:25,515 --> 01:26:30,920 I got nothing to offer you but a $26 million restitution order 1433 01:26:31,054 --> 01:26:33,790 and suspicious glares and grins every time 1434 01:26:33,923 --> 01:26:37,561 I walk by with you in some public arena. 1435 01:26:37,694 --> 01:26:39,296 But I will tell you this, 1436 01:26:41,298 --> 01:26:46,536 if I had to serve eight Super Bowls in prison again, 1437 01:26:46,670 --> 01:26:49,539 and knew that you'd be waiting for me when I got out, 1438 01:26:51,841 --> 01:26:53,910 I would go right back to prison. 1439 01:27:06,656 --> 01:27:08,258 Look, uh... 1440 01:27:09,626 --> 01:27:11,127 I can do this, right? 1441 01:27:11,261 --> 01:27:14,564 Yeah. I know you can do this. 1442 01:27:14,698 --> 01:27:15,865 Go get 'em. 1443 01:27:31,748 --> 01:27:33,383 I don't trust you, Minkow. 1444 01:27:33,517 --> 01:27:37,053 Hey, I'm here to work with you. I'm not a bad guy. 1445 01:27:37,186 --> 01:27:38,755 I'm a liar and a sinner saved by grace. 1446 01:27:38,888 --> 01:27:40,189 Stop it. 1447 01:27:40,324 --> 01:27:42,392 There's a lot of people involved with this fund. 1448 01:27:42,526 --> 01:27:44,728 Heavy hitters. It's not just me. 1449 01:27:44,861 --> 01:27:47,263 Listen, if you hurt me, 1450 01:27:47,397 --> 01:27:50,400 this goes to the FBI and the Journal. 1451 01:27:50,534 --> 01:27:53,437 I don't want to hurt you. I just need you to back off. 1452 01:28:04,213 --> 01:28:09,553 Well, I guess this won't be going to the FBI or the Journal. 1453 01:28:11,721 --> 01:28:15,825 But tell me, getting this much cash at this stage of your deal, 1454 01:28:15,959 --> 01:28:17,527 it was a bitch, wasn't it? 1455 01:28:17,661 --> 01:28:20,997 When you're giving 18% to 40% a year, the interest kills you. 1456 01:28:21,130 --> 01:28:22,399 Do the math. 1457 01:28:22,532 --> 01:28:25,301 Every day keeps you a little deeper in the hole. 1458 01:28:25,435 --> 01:28:29,439 I did the math and then I did eight Super Bowls in prison. 1459 01:28:29,573 --> 01:28:31,274 I'm not a criminal. 1460 01:28:31,408 --> 01:28:34,110 My investors double their money every three years. 1461 01:28:34,243 --> 01:28:37,113 But I had to make some risky investments 1462 01:28:37,246 --> 01:28:38,886 just to raise some money for the investors 1463 01:28:38,982 --> 01:28:40,584 that didn't use the trust fund. 1464 01:28:41,885 --> 01:28:43,987 Tough game we're in. 1465 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,823 These hedge funds, totally unregulated. 1466 01:28:46,956 --> 01:28:48,057 I'll stay afloat. 1467 01:28:48,191 --> 01:28:49,626 I'll get it all back. 1468 01:28:49,759 --> 01:28:53,530 I just need to survive until one of my deals pay off big. 1469 01:28:53,663 --> 01:28:55,064 And then I'm home free. 1470 01:28:55,198 --> 01:28:57,834 All I need you to do is be quiet. 1471 01:28:57,967 --> 01:29:01,771 So, no money left in the fund? 1472 01:29:01,905 --> 01:29:03,373 More or less. 1473 01:29:07,977 --> 01:29:10,814 Olacane just a front company? 1474 01:29:10,947 --> 01:29:15,051 Olacane? Why are you asking about Olacane? 1475 01:29:15,184 --> 01:29:17,521 BARRY: Just interested in how... 1476 01:29:17,654 --> 01:29:21,925 Uh, just, you know, interested in how other people do 1477 01:29:22,058 --> 01:29:24,928 things like I used to do. 1478 01:29:25,061 --> 01:29:26,530 Look, I've gotta go. 1479 01:29:26,663 --> 01:29:29,466 I hope you fellas enjoy the rest of your stay here in LA. 1480 01:29:29,599 --> 01:29:31,668 Catch a Clipper game or something. 1481 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:37,840 What the... 1482 01:29:37,907 --> 01:29:40,410 Boss... Check him. 1483 01:29:40,544 --> 01:29:42,879 Shit, cover's blown, cover's blown. Move in. 1484 01:29:43,012 --> 01:29:44,481 What's this? 1485 01:29:45,615 --> 01:29:46,683 It's a wire. 1486 01:29:47,884 --> 01:29:49,285 You know something? Screw this job. 1487 01:29:55,992 --> 01:29:57,293 Don's money. 1488 01:30:02,932 --> 01:30:04,133 Come on. Come on. 1489 01:30:05,802 --> 01:30:07,236 Come on. 1490 01:30:16,813 --> 01:30:18,047 Freeze! FBI! 1491 01:30:18,181 --> 01:30:20,450 Drop the case! Down on the floor. 1492 01:30:22,385 --> 01:30:24,253 Stay right where you are. 1493 01:30:24,387 --> 01:30:26,122 Let's go. Down to base camp. 1494 01:30:33,362 --> 01:30:36,633 MIKEY: When I heard Barry was chasing after bad guys in his movie, 1495 01:30:36,766 --> 01:30:39,769 I said, "Come on, Barry. I mean, let's get real. 1496 01:30:39,903 --> 01:30:41,370 "There's no way you did this. 1497 01:30:41,505 --> 01:30:43,573 "You're not an action hero." 1498 01:30:49,345 --> 01:30:53,950 SCOTT: The FBI did credit Barry for his multiple efforts to uncover fraud. 1499 01:30:54,083 --> 01:30:56,319 But there was more to the story. 1500 01:30:56,452 --> 01:30:58,221 Hey, genius, come here. Yeah. 1501 01:30:58,354 --> 01:31:00,456 Let me ask you something. 1502 01:31:00,590 --> 01:31:02,550 What would you have done if you caught those guys? 1503 01:31:02,659 --> 01:31:04,193 They are kind of big, aren't they? 1504 01:31:05,361 --> 01:31:07,697 I learned in prison, in a shower of all places, 1505 01:31:07,831 --> 01:31:12,135 that when you do the right thing, God takes care of the details. 1506 01:31:15,872 --> 01:31:18,474 Good job, by the way. 1507 01:31:18,608 --> 01:31:19,843 Merry Christmas. 1508 01:31:22,912 --> 01:31:25,048 SCOTT: What's ironic here is that 1509 01:31:25,181 --> 01:31:30,253 while Barry was bragging about the $1.6 billion in fraud he'd uncovered, 1510 01:31:30,386 --> 01:31:32,956 he was hammering companies whose stock he'd shorted 1511 01:31:33,089 --> 01:31:38,194 in a series of attacks often based on misleading or false charges. 1512 01:31:38,327 --> 01:31:40,163 Causing not the companies 1513 01:31:40,296 --> 01:31:45,569 but thousands of innocent shareholders to lose well over $3 billion. 1514 01:31:45,702 --> 01:31:48,337 I always wondered why no one ever really talks about 1515 01:31:48,471 --> 01:31:51,741 how much he had cost all of those people. 1516 01:31:51,875 --> 01:31:56,646 Way more than any amount of fraud that he ever uncovered or prevented. 1517 01:31:56,780 --> 01:31:59,649 He was really on the right road, he had everything going for him 1518 01:31:59,783 --> 01:32:01,551 and to go this crazy, 1519 01:32:01,685 --> 01:32:04,487 to do the things that he did, even I was surprised. 1520 01:32:04,621 --> 01:32:06,856 And, look, not too much surprises me. 1521 01:32:06,990 --> 01:32:09,893 I've been on the street a long time and I've seen just about everything. 1522 01:32:10,026 --> 01:32:13,062 I don't think I've ever seen the extent of what Barry has done. 1523 01:32:13,196 --> 01:32:16,299 I mean, this was a Madoff type of thing. It turned out to be his downfall. 1524 01:32:16,432 --> 01:32:22,538 I watched Barry do an impassioned sermon that to me was unbelievable oratory. 1525 01:32:22,672 --> 01:32:27,877 And he would then follow that up after motivating his entire parish, 1526 01:32:28,011 --> 01:32:30,880 and go out in the lobby and accept a check from somebody 1527 01:32:31,014 --> 01:32:35,018 that he knew he was going to misappropriate and spend improperly. 1528 01:32:35,151 --> 01:32:38,855 I know we're supposed to forgive. As Christians, 1529 01:32:38,988 --> 01:32:40,857 we're supposed to forgive. 1530 01:32:40,990 --> 01:32:44,327 Maybe I can say I forgive, but I cannot forget. 1531 01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:47,496 I cannot ever forget what he has done. 1532 01:32:49,766 --> 01:32:52,235 He stole more than $3 million from the church personally, 1533 01:32:52,368 --> 01:32:57,974 and multiple millions of dollars from the people in the church privately. 1534 01:32:58,107 --> 01:33:03,312 And, boy, he took money in the millions from people, 1535 01:33:03,446 --> 01:33:04,781 but he took my reputation 1536 01:33:04,914 --> 01:33:08,451 at... Which, you could always get money back. 1537 01:33:08,584 --> 01:33:09,919 The comeback that he made 1538 01:33:10,053 --> 01:33:13,589 and the impact that he was truly making was worthy. 1539 01:33:13,723 --> 01:33:16,492 But that story didn't end the way it could have. 1540 01:33:16,626 --> 01:33:20,363 And I think when selfishness and greed come in there, it sent him back. 1541 01:33:20,496 --> 01:33:22,799 It was a very tragic ending. 1542 01:33:22,932 --> 01:33:27,170 And tragic not just for Barry, for the people that were hurt. 1543 01:33:27,303 --> 01:33:29,973 His whole life was an act. 1544 01:33:30,106 --> 01:33:33,409 His whole life was an act. 1545 01:33:33,542 --> 01:33:35,544 That's the bottom line. 1546 01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:38,581 MIKEY: Barry was a master storyteller. 1547 01:33:38,715 --> 01:33:41,384 So even with Peanut, for all I know 1548 01:33:41,517 --> 01:33:43,753 it was the same as Jimmy Stewart's Harvey the bunny. 1549 01:33:43,887 --> 01:33:47,123 LEROY: I don't think the Peanut story was all true. 1550 01:33:47,256 --> 01:33:48,758 I think there was a Peanut, 1551 01:33:48,892 --> 01:33:52,896 but I don't think it went down like Barry said it went down. 1552 01:34:37,807 --> 01:34:42,411 This match right here is me and your life. 1553 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:49,652 All the darkness in the world can't overcome the power of one light, 1554 01:34:49,786 --> 01:34:51,888 one person who believes in you. 1555 01:34:53,589 --> 01:34:55,658 Don't ever forget that. 1556 01:34:58,127 --> 01:34:59,562 Ever. 1557 01:35:18,481 --> 01:35:24,053 ♪ Flat out deception 1558 01:35:24,187 --> 01:35:29,192 ♪ Conscious intentions 1559 01:35:29,325 --> 01:35:34,563 ♪ And with every reinvention 1560 01:35:34,697 --> 01:35:40,236 ♪ No dance with redemption 1561 01:35:40,369 --> 01:35:45,674 ♪ What kind of thievery misleading, un-worshipping 1562 01:35:45,809 --> 01:35:51,247 ♪ What a quick drop from grace while the buzzers were circling 1563 01:35:51,380 --> 01:35:56,285 ♪ It's a slippery slope 1564 01:35:56,419 --> 01:36:00,756 ♪ Pinning hope against hope 1565 01:36:00,890 --> 01:36:06,295 ♪ It's a slippery slope 1566 01:36:06,429 --> 01:36:13,236 ♪ Pinning hope against hope 1567 01:36:13,369 --> 01:36:19,108 ♪ And nine lives of fatal flaw 1568 01:36:19,242 --> 01:36:23,913 ♪ Destiny's last call 1569 01:36:24,047 --> 01:36:29,485 ♪ Does any single act of good one does 1570 01:36:29,618 --> 01:36:34,690 ♪ Ever trip the scales of justice 1571 01:36:34,824 --> 01:36:41,064 ♪ And is there ever a light bulb moment that's permanent 1572 01:36:41,197 --> 01:36:46,435 ♪ Or does the moth fly to the light just to burn from it 1573 01:36:46,569 --> 01:36:52,241 ♪ It's a slippery slope 1574 01:36:52,375 --> 01:36:56,179 ♪ Slippery slope 1575 01:36:56,312 --> 01:37:01,484 ♪ It's a slippery slope 1576 01:37:01,617 --> 01:37:08,124 ♪ Pinning hope against hope 1577 01:37:08,257 --> 01:37:12,628 ♪ Pulled out of the pack and ripped from the headlines 1578 01:37:12,761 --> 01:37:16,665 ♪ Deceitful free faller no conscience no quarter 1579 01:37:16,799 --> 01:37:21,004 ♪ Washed up and washed out dead in the water 1580 01:37:21,137 --> 01:37:26,209 ♪ Carried away by the floods of the slaughter 1581 01:37:31,047 --> 01:37:34,951 ♪ Slippery slope 1582 01:37:36,119 --> 01:37:40,323 ♪ Slippery slope 1583 01:37:40,456 --> 01:37:45,628 ♪ It's a slippery slope 1584 01:37:45,761 --> 01:37:51,667 ♪ Pinning hope against hope 1585 01:37:52,701 --> 01:37:57,440 ♪ It's a slippery slope 1586 01:37:57,573 --> 01:38:03,279 ♪ Pinning hope against hope 1587 01:38:03,412 --> 01:38:09,318 ♪ It's a skin on the true 1588 01:38:09,452 --> 01:38:14,590 ♪ Stuffed with a lie 1589 01:38:14,723 --> 01:38:20,429 ♪ Flat out deception 1590 01:38:20,563 --> 01:38:25,568 ♪ Conscious intentions 1591 01:38:25,701 --> 01:38:30,974 ♪ And with every reinvention 1592 01:38:31,107 --> 01:38:37,113 ♪ No dance with redemption ♪ 1593 01:38:39,515 --> 01:38:41,184 ♪ Yeah 1594 01:38:43,552 --> 01:38:45,188 ♪ Uh-uh 1595 01:38:46,990 --> 01:38:49,792 ♪ It's a matter of life or a matter of death 1596 01:38:49,925 --> 01:38:52,261 ♪ When you take your last breath It's too late to regret 1597 01:38:52,395 --> 01:38:55,131 ♪ All the pain you inflicted now they got you restricted 1598 01:38:55,264 --> 01:38:57,833 ♪ To four walls in time 'cos all you got is time 1599 01:38:57,967 --> 01:39:00,769 ♪ To play it over and over again in your mind 1600 01:39:00,903 --> 01:39:03,272 ♪ All the souls and the lives that you stole you was blind 1601 01:39:03,406 --> 01:39:06,442 ♪ And all the wrongs that you done did that can't be undone kid 1602 01:39:06,575 --> 01:39:09,912 ♪ Is there any room in this place for a little grace 1603 01:39:10,046 --> 01:39:12,748 ♪ Everybody says that they're never gonna change 1604 01:39:12,881 --> 01:39:15,918 ♪ 'Cause the mind deranged you lost, you insane 1605 01:39:16,052 --> 01:39:17,653 ♪ You messed up one too many times 1606 01:39:17,786 --> 01:39:19,722 ♪ Breaking laws making lives taking lives 1607 01:39:19,855 --> 01:39:23,792 ♪ In the hope you can't cope with the life that you made for yourself 1608 01:39:23,926 --> 01:39:25,995 ♪ They say you had it coming 1609 01:39:26,129 --> 01:39:28,264 ♪ What you do for a second chance in life 1610 01:39:28,397 --> 01:39:30,833 ♪ Would you roll the dice or pay the price 1611 01:39:30,966 --> 01:39:32,401 ♪ For a shot at redemption 1612 01:39:32,535 --> 01:39:34,237 ♪ Do you want another chance to live 1613 01:39:34,370 --> 01:39:36,672 ♪ Do you want another chance to live ♪ Yeah 1614 01:39:36,805 --> 01:39:42,511 ♪ It's never too late It's never too late No, no, no, no 1615 01:39:42,645 --> 01:39:44,347 ♪ Redemption ♪ 125939

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