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If you are hearing this,
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it's a message from the past...
and from the future.
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We all have our creation myths.
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As societies, as people with
shared interests
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as individuals.
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We all seek creative ways of
expressing ourselves.
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In the art we try to make
or the stories we tell.
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Some seek expression
through the worlds they create,
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on the page or in film.
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And some through music.
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My name is John Carpenter
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and my creation myth comes
from my childhood fascination
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with storytelling and world-making
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that led me to become a
movie director.
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As a guy starting out decades ago
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on the periphery of the film industry,
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making low-budget movies,
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I learned to do everything myself.
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Including making the
music for my films.
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Luck would have it that
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others working with
computers and electronics
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had come up with a computer
you could play:
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the first music synthesizers.
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They gave someone like me an orchestra
and sound effects at my fingertips.
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At the same time I was working
with synthesizers,
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other people were
discovering them too.
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I'm here to introduce
you to a world of
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an unknown music movement
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you'll probably never heard of.
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It's called Synthwave and
its been growing in the underground
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for more than a decade,
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and only now people are
paying attention to it.
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You don't know it,
but you have probably heard it
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in the movies, advertising
or video games.
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We actually thought it
was going to die
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before we even knew it was
called Synthwave.
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We thought "This is it. Come and gone,
done our thing."
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It did not have a name,
for a least, seven years
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We were making music
we thought sounded good.
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One day we saw that word pop-up
everywhere.
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And at first I didn't get that it
could had something to do with us,
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or that we were included in it.
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It's a new word for us...
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Because we started to do this style
of music in 2006-2007.
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But it did not have that name.
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And then suddenly we woke up in
2012-2013 with the Synthwave tag.
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And: "Oh ok, we're in it".
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So yes, it's music made with
synths.
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- And waves.
- And waves.
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Define it?
Like the new wave?
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Synthwave? I do not understand
what the wave is.
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I get freaked out
with the genres sometimes,
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pigeonholes.
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And people get uptight
on internet and stuff...
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“This is dubstep or new
euro funk or..."
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Whatever it might be!
Who cares, man?
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Listen to the music, enjoy it.
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There is too much keyboard warriors.
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To me Synthwave is music that
conjures movies in your mind.
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It is a soundtrack for mind movies.
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It is like a new term
for electronic music.
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A certain type of electronic music
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that sort of recalls music you might
heard in the 80s.
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How would you define it?
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The big question!
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I see Synthwave as...
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...the illegitimate child of Metal
and New Wave,
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who did also some shady things
with Electro at the same time.
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It's a kind of melting pot
of different musical styles.
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And that's why it actually works,
because it resonates with everyone.
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There is no need to have a
musical education,
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or to have an encyclopedic knowledge
of the 80s to enjoy that sound.
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I think Synthwave is a very
postmodern subcultural thing.
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It's got one foot in the past
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and it's got one foot
in the future as well.
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And so, it's forward facing and
backwards facing at the same time.
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And if you aresomewhere in the middle,
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that's probably what I'd
call Synthwave.
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A lot of people feels that music is
dying. It's becoming generic.
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There's no soul to it.
No real feeling to it.
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Most people who listen to Synthwave
fall in love with it,
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if not immediately, maybe after
two or three plays.
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I believe it is going to be huge.
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You can't stop that!
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Good morning, Youtube.
It's Alex Eldridge,
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aka Oceanland, and it is time
to make some Synthwave.
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How you can sound similar
to Kavinsky...
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80s kind of sound to it
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This is what it would sound like.
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Is it possible to feel nostalgia for a
decade you did not really lived in?
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This is good!, I love it!
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More sax!
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Is Synthwave a trend
or a re-appropriation of the past?
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It's both, isn't it?
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It is a re-appropriation of past
sounds to make a new trend.
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I always played with the thought of
making 80s inspired music,
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but I didn't think anyone
would listen to it.
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I was worried that people might not
get it or like it, you know?
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It's like, would people
buy my records?
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I think the 80s were
such a huge influence,
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such a big change that...
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everything that came afterwards
took pieces of it.
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I know there was a big break
in the 90s.
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It had to change a little bit and
create something new.
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But we always come back to it.
Like we do now.
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Synthwave is new music.
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People say that it sounds like the 80s.
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But actually, to my opinion,
it doesn't really.
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It takes the feelings
that were projected
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by the things that we
loved in the 80s...
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and sort of converts the emotional
response into music.
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The 80s were just a less cynical time.
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A magical decade for films.
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And films had not crossed
this awful meta
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self-aware thing,
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that we are witnessing now.
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Films wore their hearts
on the sleeves.
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Yes! I think people are
genuinely craving that.
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Look at "Stranger Things" and
what that did to people.
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They managed to capture a small shot
of that Amblin era...
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Spielberg's 80s magic...
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and people went nuts!
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Oh my God, this sound?
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I can't say “Stranger Things" was made
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because they were
inspired by Synthwave.
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I don't know that.
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But I truly believe
that will be unstoppable.
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And it will be the next big thing,
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and Taylor Swift and all these guys
will copy the sound.
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I didn't expect Synthwave
to be as influential
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on mainstream as it has been.
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Mainstream music is like this big
layer that everybody is aware of.
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Music that people are aware of.
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But underneath that, there is
this massive Synthwave presence.
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Suddenly everyone is talking
about it...
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That's when they all Google
"Synthwave artists"...
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I want the whole world to know
about Synthwave.
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Who would not like it?
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I think people find
today's Synthwave
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that sounds like old
electronic music...
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They find it fresh because they never
heard it before, that's all.
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It's probably just as simple as that.
Something new.
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I've been lucky, due to my age,
to live in that time.
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The catalyst for Synthwave
is nostalgia
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and the visual aesthetics of the 80s
and cinema as well.
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Many LP covers of
Synthwave, what they describe
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and what they're reaffirming
is an aesthetic.
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And I think this is
what people like.
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Grid backgrounds,
like the movie "Tron",
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these gradients and colours
especially in lilac tones,
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those cities you see
on the horizon, at night,
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with neon lights and billboards,
like in "Blade Runner".
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I think the graphic design,
the art,
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is a first step especially for
underground artists
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as they need to catch your
attention quickly.
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I think Synthwave did help.
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It definitely sparked another
interest to people.
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"Hey, remember the 80s?
It was so cool!"
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And there's all these bands
playing 80s type of music...
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There's even video games being made...
looking 80s.
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Not just the music.
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I think a lot of that 80s
style came back.
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Yeah, the movie "Drive".
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Synthwave is just a term
that kind of crystallised.
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The catalyst was "Drive",
the movie.
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So around 2010, I basically
just wanted to stay longer
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in the universe of the movie,
in a way.
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Everything was so new in terms of...
I don't know. Before that,
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most people would probably look at it
sort of derisively
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if you said that you listen
to that kind of music.
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Ten years ago it wasn't that cool
as it is today.
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It wasn't called "Gunship“ back then,
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but we'd already written
half a record of it.
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We put a lot of work into it and then
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there was a defining moment
when it shifted.
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And we were like:
"Ok, this project is changing.
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- That's when I went to see "Drive"
- Yeah
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I remember going into that movie
by myself.
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It was the summer,
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I rode my motorcycle
to the cinema by myself.
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Just took a chance.
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It was hot for England,
I was just wearing a t-shirt
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and I will never forget it.
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When the credits came up and
that track rolled
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I was just like: "This is magic!"
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The movie, if it got an
impact on many things,
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it was because it defined a
type of sound.
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I was waiting in my heart
for a director who says to himself:
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"Oh wait, there are guys doing this
kind of music“.
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Electric Youth and us,
we were contacted
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shortly before the movie was showcased
at the Cannes Film Festival.
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It was really important for all of us
to be on that soundtrack.
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That's the magic of cinema:
it's forever.
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It's a song that's going to last.
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For people like us who love cinema,
it's the ultimate dream.
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It's not a Synthwave song,
I could say that.
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It's not a retro song.
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I'm saying that as people who
created it and the intent behind it.
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I wrote that coming from a place
of true emotion,
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so it's hard for us sometimes,
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when we see a song like that,
that we put that into,
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and what someone celebrates
about it is that
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they feel it sounds like 80s.
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It just feels very
surface level for us.
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I guess you could say it's a bit
of a misunderstanding.
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But at the same time it
does come back to:
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There is no wrong take on art.
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If someone takes it as that,
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and that is what it is for them,
they are not wrong.
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I think it made it ok for people
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to love pink neons
and the cities at night.
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I love cities at night.
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I think we're doing a little
bit too much about ”Drive...
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When media outlets discovers something
for them it's new.
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But people making music with synths,
it's not really new.
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But I think it was the trigger,
because the song was a hit.
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And then people were like:
"Hey, why don't we do the same?“
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Since the release of "Drive",
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I'd say a lot of people
gravitated towards that.
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I didn't actually see it for a while.
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I was writing this music
and people would be like:
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"Watch Drive, you'd probably like it.
It's a good movie"
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But up to then, I wasn't
aware of other people
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making retro electronic music.
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I didn't think this subculture was
gonna get so much attention.
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I don't want to sound purist
or snobbish
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but for me, it took a lot of
the fun part away.
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All of the sudden, I started hearing
from people
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that I knew in my friends
environment...
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"Have you seen this movie?
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It has this really great
retro soundtrack."
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I'm like: "Yeah, ok... I'm doing this
sound for a few years"
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To be honest, I didn't even think of
being
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part of this documentary and
showing my face.
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I just got the feeling that
they think
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it should be like
a closed club, you know?
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That no one else can come
and make this stuff.
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And I'm thinking:
that's ridiculous!
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When what we're doing is
a homage to the 80s.
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You ain't inventing this stuff!
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I think when we all started off,
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it was a very small community.
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There weren't a whole lot of bands.
244
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I mean I only knew like
maybe six bands.
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I didn't think there was gonna be,
246
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hundreds of other guys
in the next few years.
247
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Maybe it was a little more special
when it first started.
248
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The small community... and then now,
it just kind of evolved.
249
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And everyone is like:
“Oh, I could do that too."
250
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The kids rushed on the bandwagon
and the music suffered.
251
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There's a lot of bad
records out there.
252
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A lot of great ones too.
253
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I'm probably too old and stupid
but I hate the Internet.
254
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In a way, it has killed the
concept of criticism.
255
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I mean, everybody says what
they think on the Internet.
256
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And there are people who
share their opinion with you,
257
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even if no one has asked
them to do it.
258
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It becomes a big circus.
People insulting, morons, you know?
259
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There is a Facebook group
that still exists called "Synthetix,
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where everyone could go and
discover things and talk about it.
261
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I was definitely one of the guys
that kind of blew up.
262
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It wasn't anything I was ever
really pushing after hard.
263
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It just sort of happened.
264
00:19:39,050 --> 00:19:41,550
I know there is definitely a group
of people,
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were kind of hating on it
or whatever...
266
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and feel like they should
have been there.
267
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I don't have all that.
The only thing I have is Twitter.
268
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I don't even reply.
269
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When I did have Facebook...
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a fan made it and made me admin.
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So I start using it...
I post a couple of tracks
272
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and I got comments like:
"This isn't an 80s Stallone track"
273
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And I'm thinking:
"Well, I fucking made it!
274
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So there's no interest, you know?
275
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The music is more interesting.
It always come back to that.
276
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We were making what
we wanted to hear,
277
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and finding other people
doing the same thing.
278
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When we formed Rosso...
it was a gamble.
279
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We didn't know if anyone else
would even like it.
280
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For me, success will kill Synthwave
281
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as it will lose completely
its garage spirit.
282
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I don't know.
It is growing.
283
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I'm not sure whether that's a
god or a bad thing.
284
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We'll see.
285
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:15,980
There's a rebel beauty
in the way these artists
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feel so strongly about
their music and subculture.
287
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I say to them:
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If you want to create something,
you can do it.
289
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If I can do it, you can do it.
290
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Don't intellectualize it.
291
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:31,040
It all comes down to one thing:
instinct.
292
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That's what you must
keep close to you.
293
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520
I'm on that tape because some of the
kids seem to relate to
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something in my career and
my soundtracks.
295
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,440
I don't really know about that.
296
00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,560
I don't think anyone should
relate so strongly
297
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to what old folks like me have
done in the past.
298
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I've tried my best
to make good movies and music.
299
00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:09,740
I tried really hard because
that's all I could do.
300
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080
But everything after that,
what it means to others,
301
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,290
it's not on me.
302
00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:17,580
If it means something to you,
That's just great!
303
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800
Part of being an artist is finding
what you want to do.
304
00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:25,840
And once you find it, you'll know.
305
00:22:26,130 --> 00:22:29,300
You'll feel it.
Like: “This is it.“
306
00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:32,930
For me, I had no choice.
I fell in love with movies.
307
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But then came music and that
was transformative.
308
00:22:36,850 --> 00:22:38,850
But my first love was in the movies.
309
00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:42,650
That's where I decided to go to
school and learn how to make them.
310
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I wanted to do that more than
anything in the world.
311
00:22:46,650 --> 00:22:50,990
Things exist in cinema that don't
exist in other places,
312
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in real life.
313
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You just have to go where you love.
314
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In the mid-2000s,
maybe 2006-2007,
315
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we all felt kind of stale
316
00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:29,780
with what was popular at the time.
317
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There wasn't a lot of inspiring
new music coming out.
318
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,780
We got to this place that
wasn't very exciting.
319
00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:41,040
So me and a lot of my friends started
looking to the past for inspiration.
320
00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:46,550
That's where we first got
into ltalo-disco and krautrock.
321
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:49,170
Things like that became
really influential
322
00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:53,090
on the sound of "Survive"
and a lot of other artists.
323
00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:57,100
It was a big group reaction
to culture at the time.
324
00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:08,940
We all started bumping into each
other on MySpace.
325
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:11,990
And we're thinking: "this guy's making
something similar".
326
00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:14,410
"Oh, there's disco..." and we're
looking through...
327
00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:17,200
recommending people to each other
and started talking.
328
00:24:17,370 --> 00:24:20,040
Everyone was on a same open
field back then.
329
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,670
Probably internet geeks or something,
I don't know...
330
00:24:30,130 --> 00:24:32,590
I was not a user on MySpace.
331
00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:35,550
Something happened in Myspace?
332
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,180
It was a guetto, right?
There were no rules.
333
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,890
- Myspace era was...
- Is where it all began.
334
00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:44,060
- I think the best time of Synthwave.
- Yeah
335
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,030
I didn't know there was
any scene back then.
336
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,820
I just started making music.
337
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,280
I have no formal background, training
in music, anything like that.
338
00:24:59,490 --> 00:25:02,870
I downloaded some really old software
339
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,170
I think it was called
"Making waves audio".
340
00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:08,420
Most of the stuff was completely free.
341
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:11,760
I didn't have anything, no money
to spend on the software.
342
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:15,220
And that's basically howl learned:
by myself.
343
00:25:16,220 --> 00:25:20,220
Facebook wasn't as popular.
It had recently came up.
344
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:23,890
At that time, there was no outlet
for people to share
345
00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:26,270
other than Myspace and some
message boards.
346
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,650
I uploaded a few songs there.
347
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:33,240
I think it was Miami Nights,
ActRaiser at that time...
348
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:36,070
He asked: "Do you want to join
this collective?"
349
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,240
I said: "Ok, no problem.
Let's share ideas and music."
350
00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:53,800
The first thing I remember of when I
discovered this Synthwave world
351
00:25:54,010 --> 00:25:57,130
was MPM soundtracks and
Miami Nights 1984.
352
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:00,430
Those were the acts where I was like:
"What is this?
353
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,850
Because I've grown up with 80s music.
354
00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:08,690
It was clear it was new, but it wasn't
trying to pander to radio.
355
00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:11,900
It was clearly trying to be very
in-your-face 80s.
356
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:15,280
And I was like: "You can do this?-
It was a wake-up call.
357
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,780
I was like: "Oh my god. There are
other people that like this?"
358
00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:25,450
I think myself, 80s Stallone,
359
00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:29,460
ActRaiser at the time,
Miami Nights 1984 now,
360
00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:33,750
we weren't the first...
There were not just a lot of bands.
361
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,760
That were only like a dozen
people on MySpace,
362
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,760
really trying to push that sound.
363
00:26:41,970 --> 00:26:47,140
So, as a group, we would advertise for
each other... basically.
364
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:54,110
We were surprised, that
we weren't alone.
365
00:26:54,270 --> 00:26:57,820
Slowly people started to
understand it.
366
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,200
There was definitely something
happening in Europe, in France.
367
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:03,780
The first people really doing it,
would have been...
368
00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:06,870
Kavinsky and Valerie Collective.
369
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:09,500
I'd say they definitely
started the whole thing.
370
00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:12,880
We always come back to Kavinsky.
"Testarossa Autodrive", there you go.
371
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,600
The french! They do electronic
better than everyone.
372
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,980
The first thing I remember,
it would definitely be...
373
00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:32,190
Probably around 2007,
374
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,150
I've found Kavinsky through
Justice, I guess...
375
00:27:36,610 --> 00:27:39,440
and they made an impact.
376
00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:41,700
I didn't realise what it
was at the time.
377
00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:44,740
Just something I liked.
378
00:27:44,910 --> 00:27:48,580
It wasn't really that retro but,
in hindsight, yeah,
379
00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:51,500
I feel like it led to a
lot of the things
380
00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:53,540
that we associate with Synthwave now.
381
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:57,590
At that time, "Discodust" was a
really big german blog
382
00:27:57,750 --> 00:28:02,340
for anybody who was into electronic
music, and music discovery.
383
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:04,890
It was there where I came across
384
00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:09,810
the cover of College's first
release: "Teenage Color".
385
00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:13,400
And that image just caught my eye.
386
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,150
This was like:
"Wow, like this is...
387
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,860
This makes so much sense to us!“
388
00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:22,780
I remember Austin stayed up all
night on the Internet,
389
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:25,620
and I woke up in the morning
and I came downstairs,
390
00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:28,790
and I was like: "You are still up?",
and he's like: "Man..."
391
00:28:28,990 --> 00:28:32,790
"I found something that it's
just extraordinary".
392
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,170
He couldn't believe it!
Like he found something
393
00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:39,760
that was so close to his own heart...
That was really cool.
394
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,050
Yeah, it was definitely a
game-changer for me.
395
00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:54,140
I don't really know what goes on.
Or how to communicate.
396
00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:56,520
I don't understand Facebook.
397
00:28:56,770 --> 00:28:59,780
I could, don't get me wrong.
Maybe it's me...
398
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,530
being stubborn and not
wanting to do it.
399
00:29:03,150 --> 00:29:06,110
But yeah, I don't know how
things work these days.
400
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,410
I don't even know how to get a track
on iTunes or whatever.
401
00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:12,160
Because it's such bullshit!
402
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,420
What's the point?
That's how I honestly feel about it.
403
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:21,130
I'm just going to make some music and
put it on the internet for free.
404
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:24,340
If people listen to it and like it,
I'm happy.
405
00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:28,970
I like to keep things
quiet and personal.
406
00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:33,020
I'm not the thing that sells.
The music is.
407
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:34,690
Do you know what I mean?
408
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:37,150
That's probably why
we never put a face to it.
409
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,730
We didn't feel we needed to jump up
and down on "Top of the Pops".
410
00:29:45,610 --> 00:29:49,320
A lot of artists are just
little bundles of self-doubt
411
00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:52,290
that somehow still put out work.
412
00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:55,620
I've just existed purely
on the internet so far,
413
00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:57,290
just as a recording artist.
414
00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:00,090
I've also benefitted from
not really having
415
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:02,710
my face or my body shown a lot...
416
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,340
Specially as a woman, you're in a
position where people feel like
417
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:10,430
they can judge you more for
how you speak or what you look like.
418
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,220
It's not standard for girls
419
00:30:13,390 --> 00:30:18,310
to have a mask with glowing eyes on
stage and just: "Rock out!".
420
00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:21,860
I've been lucky that hasn't
been a huge part
421
00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:25,610
of my brand or my identity.
422
00:30:31,950 --> 00:30:32,780
We're hidden!
423
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:36,160
Nobody knows how each
other looks like unless
424
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:40,460
they put in their artists page:
"This is how I look like"
425
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:46,210
Most people have picture of 80s
memorabilia for their artist page.
426
00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:49,340
About that, I mean,
I sometimes wonder myself.
427
00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:53,010
What's going on? I mean,
why are you hiding your face?
428
00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:57,020
I don't know, I never really
thought about that.
429
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:59,310
Do you need to show your face?
430
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,480
I assumed there wasn't much
interest in what I do.
431
00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:06,490
I'm just some guy on the
internet making music.
432
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:09,150
Even now, I don't know
how anyone looks like.
433
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,330
It's a bit strange.
I never had the intention
434
00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:17,750
of creating any sort of faceless
or mystery thing.
435
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:22,790
The Internet forces you to
show your face.
436
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,670
But I think it also
does the opposite.
437
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,260
You can put anything
you want on the internet.
438
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:29,880
No one has to know who you are.
439
00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:33,600
A lot of the people, at least that
I've met personally, are introverts.
440
00:31:33,890 --> 00:31:36,640
Its people that just want to do this,
for the sake of doing it,
441
00:31:36,850 --> 00:31:40,980
and maybe not for recognition.
They just don't put it there.
442
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,560
So, if you don't chase it,
you're not going to find it.
443
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:50,030
I was influenced by some of my
favourite artists,
444
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,410
like Daft Punk, Danger.
445
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:55,160
For me, it always seemed appropriate,
446
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:59,790
for live electronic music...
because it's just you.
447
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,040
So, if you add that little bit of...
question... the mystery...
448
00:32:04,290 --> 00:32:08,090
It's like I'm abandoning every
bit of identity that makes me human.
449
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,550
It makes me something
you can't latch on to,
450
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,970
because the way I look
as a human being.
451
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:17,470
There's nothing cooler than Daft Punk
in their pyramid at Coachella.
452
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,890
That shit is... wild!
453
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,020
We are so in the "Me, I" era.
454
00:32:24,190 --> 00:32:26,570
"I do this, I'm better than you.
I have more likes than you".
455
00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:31,110
"I have more fans, I have
It becomes stupid.
456
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,910
I don't care what you're
doing or eating.
457
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:36,450
I'm only interested in your music.
458
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,870
I've always thought that music
existed on its own,
459
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,460
and discovering who is making it
will not make it better.
460
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:45,710
I can take this off and you can
put a light on me,
461
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,800
but I don't think the interview will
become better because you see my face.
462
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,050
I don't buy that.
That's a fashion statement in itself
463
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:55,970
for bands to hide their identity
464
00:32:57,890 --> 00:33:00,220
because they want the
music to come first.
465
00:33:00,390 --> 00:33:01,220
Not the fashion.
466
00:33:01,390 --> 00:33:03,770
To say: "I have no identity
and I have no look",
467
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:08,020
is a fashion statement just like
dressing up like Lady Gaga.
468
00:33:10,650 --> 00:33:14,780
Since, let's say, 2009, Internet
has changed a lot.
469
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:19,830
Back then, maybe it was still rooted
in this - now almost obsolete idea -
470
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:26,170
of Internet as this open frontier
without corporate controller.
471
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:30,500
Nowadays, you're constantly
managing yourself as a brand
472
00:33:30,670 --> 00:33:33,970
and people's mindset has
shifted a lot in that sense.
473
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,810
Nowadays technology is allowing us to
reach the listener very quickly.
474
00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:46,810
So you think to yourself:
475
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,980
"I'm going to do it myself because
I have all the tools".
476
00:33:50,150 --> 00:33:54,360
"I have YouTube tutorials, the
computer and virtual instruments".
477
00:33:54,570 --> 00:33:58,700
"I don't have to wait for a label or
someone, to give me a chance".
478
00:33:58,910 --> 00:34:00,700
And what has really been created
479
00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:03,750
it's a movement coming from the
artists, not from any label.
480
00:34:03,910 --> 00:34:06,330
It wasn't an executive,
it wasn't the industry.
481
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:08,420
The artists themselves are the ones
482
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:12,420
who have created this movement in
the digital era on the internet.
483
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:20,550
I do not want to sign with a label.
I want to do it on my own.
484
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,890
Maybe Synthwave artists,
485
00:34:23,010 --> 00:34:26,940
we are the last rebels of
the Internet 2.0.
486
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,310
You know? Just like:
"Fuck you".
487
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,900
It's a one way traffic.
488
00:34:42,660 --> 00:34:45,370
Underground culture always gets
noticed at some point
489
00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:48,710
by the big corporations that will try
to sniff money from it.
490
00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:53,130
There's nothing you can do about that.
You will not win this fight.
491
00:34:53,590 --> 00:34:56,380
But there's nothing wrong with
taking their money.
492
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,390
But the one thing they must not
take from you
493
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,520
is that instinctive feeling of:
“This is mine, this is my art."
494
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:10,560
“I'm making this for for a horizon."
495
00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:15,190
"You might not see it right now
but I want this thing to last."
496
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,190
"It might not be what you like
or what you want."
497
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,240
“But, you know what? Fuck you."
498
00:35:32,580 --> 00:35:35,460
Most of these guys were not
even born in the 80s
499
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:38,840
or, at least, they experienced the 80s
through the TV shows and movies
500
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:40,720
they saw as teenagers.
501
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:43,930
It may not seem to be important
but the 90s were a time
502
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,640
where a lot of things were
radically changing.
503
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:49,430
And everybody was rejecting the 80s.
504
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,060
Everybody wanted to
move on from that decade.
505
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,570
It was the mass introduction
506
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:58,280
to digital and personal computers
for households.
507
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:00,820
Everybody could make music
in their bedroom
508
00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:02,860
and no middleman was needed anymore.
509
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,620
That was a lie but,
we bought it.
510
00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:09,660
Analog wasn't cool.
Synthetizers weren't cool.
511
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,670
Get a guitar and play loud!
512
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,040
And we moved on from the glossiness
and carefree attitude of the 80s.
513
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:20,550
No more leggings, crazy hair
or cheesy music.
514
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,090
Let's do something else!
515
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:29,430
Find the Game and use the coin.
516
00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:38,650
- The 90s?
- Do we have to?
517
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:05,970
I didn't know that the 90s
were like a "no-no"
518
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,350
apparently in the synthwave community.
519
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:12,770
What we are now fetishizing is
really 90s.
520
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:17,060
Because the colors... it was 16-bit.
You couldn't do that in the 80s.
521
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:20,150
So what we're calling 80s and
retro is really 90s.
522
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,740
So, the 80s and 90s...
523
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:27,200
they tend to blur into each
other in a cool way.
524
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:36,750
The funny thing is that the 90s
sound like the 80s.
525
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,670
Right up until 1996.
526
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,670
Especially 90s action films.
527
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,380
We get our best inspiration
from that stuff.
528
00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:46,220
The music was always so epic.
529
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:48,930
The music works so
good! It's so badass!
530
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:50,260
"Terminator 2"
531
00:37:51,010 --> 00:37:53,600
Well, the movies themselves were...
just better.
532
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:05,610
Some of the main touchstone movies
that we all of us love,
533
00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:07,860
were at the end of the 80s, anyway.
534
00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:11,620
Early 90s was also
a very fruitful era for
535
00:38:11,830 --> 00:38:14,040
what we perceive as
having 80s values.
536
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,290
It wasn't until like 1995
where it all changed.
537
00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:44,650
I was playing saxophone,
538
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:48,280
and trying to do music and
have girlfriends.
539
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,740
I didn't have a girlfriend, for sure.
540
00:38:52,410 --> 00:39:00,250
In those years, my musical culture
was much more techno,
541
00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:04,840
I listened a lot to Underground
Resistance, Jeff Mills,
542
00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:06,260
Fumiya Tanaka...
543
00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:09,300
I would go to quite a few
technos parties,
544
00:39:09,550 --> 00:39:13,260
And then Daft Punk in 1997 releases
"Homework",
545
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:16,140
which is a cornerstone of all this.
546
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:20,690
"Homework", when you open it, the
artwork is their childhood bedroom.
547
00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:27,280
That's the intention, really
"Around the World", all those tracks.
548
00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:30,950
It's already a little nostalgic.
549
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,590
I have this view that Synthwave has...
550
00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:55,680
in its DNA and its roots...
that it's French.
551
00:39:57,930 --> 00:40:00,100
I remember talking
with a French artist
552
00:40:00,270 --> 00:40:04,110
about how when he was
in high school in 1996,
553
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,610
he was at some club in Paris
554
00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:09,740
an underground thing,
555
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,660
and there is Daft Punk without
there masks, before the robot stuff,
556
00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:15,530
DJing in the middle...
mashing it up whatever.
557
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:19,330
They were tapping into this
80s retro sound.
558
00:40:19,450 --> 00:40:24,130
But I think the French never saw
the retro as uncool.
559
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,920
We grew up with this
beautiful cool thing
560
00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:29,340
let's see what we
can do with it now.
561
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:32,470
And I think Synthwave came from that.
562
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,350
I don't know...
563
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,350
Maybe that was new music
made for dancing.
564
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,310
It was...
565
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,480
And it's true that the French Touch...
566
00:40:47,770 --> 00:40:49,780
only the French knows how to do it,
you know?.
567
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:51,650
Musically speaking,
I'm not a fan.
568
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:54,160
I find it loops too much.
It's very repetitive.
569
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,280
Well, that bores me.
570
00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:58,120
You should really dance to it,
and I don't dance.
571
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,890
In the 80s, synthesizer music
got really popular
572
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:23,310
and it was everywhere, in everything:
every movie, every commercial,
573
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,690
all over the radio.
574
00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:28,860
And human nature: we want something
and we want a ton of it!
575
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:31,820
And at some point, there's a tipping
576
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:34,200
where humans go:
"We're over it. What's next?"
577
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,700
And so you tend to go
to the other side of the scale
578
00:41:36,910 --> 00:41:39,030
and go for something
completly opposite.
579
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,330
Then in the 90s, you've got the
whole grunge movement
580
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:45,290
and basically killed 80s metal,
which we're all thanking God for.
581
00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:47,880
Sorry guys.
You're gonna get your ass kicked.
582
00:41:58,220 --> 00:42:01,970
When punk finished
and the grunge started,
583
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,730
synth was just no cool.
It was the enemy.
584
00:42:04,930 --> 00:42:09,310
It was a technological driven affair
that were used by people
585
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,150
that were, fundamentally
kind of intellectually poised.
586
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,740
And when Nirvana came along:
"Fuck all that shit!"
587
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,830
"I just want to make loud,
aggressive music."
588
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:24,370
And that's why it went, because
it just became uncool.
589
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,580
It was cheesy!
590
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:33,550
Even Queen specified "No synthesizers"
on one of their albums!
591
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:35,670
People were ashamed of using synths.
592
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,260
But I think it was because
there were so many pop songs
593
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:41,850
done with the DX-7 synthesizer sound.
594
00:42:42,010 --> 00:42:45,100
"Boys, boys, boys”, Sabrina,
stuff like that...
595
00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:48,310
It was hell on earth!
But not the cool one.
596
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,690
And suddenly I think, synths,
nobody could take it anymore.
597
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:55,900
We had to go back to something
electric. That comes out of an amp.
598
00:42:56,110 --> 00:42:58,910
That's badly played, and who
smells like sweat...
599
00:42:59,530 --> 00:43:01,160
...and piss.
600
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:03,830
The 90s are massively
important because
601
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:06,790
the majority of the
guys on the scene are of our age
602
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:09,540
and the 90s was our time,
our era of music.
603
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:12,380
In the 80s, actually,
everyone was probably too young.
604
00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:23,760
I think that NIN in the 90s,
they had inspired as much
605
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:28,060
as John Carpenter,
but nobody says so
606
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:30,650
or it's not assumed as a fact.
I don't know.
607
00:43:30,850 --> 00:43:34,570
I think that unconsciously I put
in my music.
608
00:43:34,860 --> 00:43:36,690
I think a lot of people put in
their music too.
609
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:38,780
They just are not aware.
610
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:42,070
They are stuck in this kind of:
"We are in the 80s decade"
611
00:43:45,950 --> 00:43:49,410
Yeah, I think that's basically
the main cool right I did.
612
00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:52,290
I mean Trent Reznor basically made
613
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:55,670
fucking around with sequences and drum
machines cool again.
614
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,260
I didn't know electronic music.
615
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:03,050
I was making metal music.
616
00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:04,550
I was a guitar player.
617
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:10,060
I've just quit a metal band
that didn't work well.
618
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:14,730
It was an impulse:
I wanted to make music.
619
00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:17,860
And the best way to do it,
it was alone.
620
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,570
And the best way to accomplish this,
was to do electronic music.
621
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,160
We were coming from metal and rock.
622
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,620
It turns out that everyone else too,
but we didn't knew it.
623
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:33,750
Ee thought we were trailblazing.
624
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Heavy metal is a magnet for people
625
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:39,840
that are unsatisfied with
the status quo.
626
00:44:40,050 --> 00:44:42,550
And Synthwave is kind of similar.
627
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,260
It's people that have abandoned
628
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:49,430
the simplicity and limitations
of pop music
629
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,810
and are going for something
more emotional and atmospheric.
630
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:56,440
During that time what Slayer and
Pantera were doing,
631
00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:59,320
what Biohazard were doing,
all that stuff...
632
00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:03,030
probably influenced
Carpenter Brut and Perturbator.
633
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,830
How old was I in the 90s?
634
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,080
I was 15-16
635
00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:20,420
So I had to be a rebel
against something.
636
00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:22,130
And so I listened to metal.
637
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:24,510
At that time, it had to be
the most violent.
638
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:28,350
Cannibal Corpse, Brutal truth,
things like that.
639
00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:30,890
I was probably procastinating,
like any 15 years old kid.
640
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,480
I don't know if synth music
really went away,
641
00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:40,520
it probably just went under for a bit.
642
00:45:40,690 --> 00:45:42,820
I think it was like a
rebellion against...
643
00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:45,280
it's got to be more human
aspect of guitar...
644
00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:46,280
it's more...
645
00:45:47,070 --> 00:45:50,870
Yeah... more human or something
for some people at the time.
646
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:53,660
It was like an act of rebellion
against... what?
647
00:45:53,830 --> 00:45:56,830
Had previously been in
vogue or in fashion, or popular?
648
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:08,300
We wouldn't be even talking
about the term "Retrowave"
649
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:10,640
if it wouldn't have gone for a while.
650
00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:14,140
Because then, something
would not be retro.
651
00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:16,940
And it's also celebrates an era
652
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:19,110
of when people started
making music
653
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:21,820
on personal computers
on a wider scale.
654
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:24,530
From there, a lot of people
started experimenting
655
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:28,110
and guys like Kavinsky or
Collegue came out of that.
656
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:33,740
- It wasn't as easy to make music.
- Yes.
657
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,960
To have synthesizers you needed money,
658
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,870
you needed gear,
659
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,380
- you needed a place.
- A studio.
660
00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:42,960
It was really hard.
661
00:46:43,210 --> 00:46:46,630
Our music was born due to
the democratization of music making.
662
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,510
When I bought my first personal
computer, that was it.
663
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,470
Everything changed.
664
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,230
We could make music in our bedroom.
665
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,400
I use "Fruity Loops", for
christ's sake!
666
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,400
There you go.
667
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,760
I started playing bass because
everyone else played guitar.
668
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,720
What's the point of playing guitar
669
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,430
if there's a guitarist on every
corner? So I played the bass.
670
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:34,930
I got into... doing everything myself.
671
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:39,100
Because I've been in punk bands, in
all different acts, live acts...
672
00:47:39,350 --> 00:47:42,150
but as soon as the girlfriend is sick
or they want to go on holidays...
673
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,030
the drummer is not there... So I get
a drum machine, I built my own band.
674
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,820
And I can tell them what to play,
what to do.
675
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,950
That's right. So let's make a kick.
That's too long, that's too techno.
676
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,950
So we want it tighter.
80s kick.
677
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,080
Too hard.
678
00:47:59,290 --> 00:48:00,790
Kick drum, 414.
679
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,460
Looks a bit crappy but
680
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,710
it's free... I don't even care.
681
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,510
Let's go.
682
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,390
I knew all the cool stuff,
all the rock
683
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,020
and the stuff some people were:
"yeah, this is cool to like"
684
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:20,230
I knew how to do that.
685
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:22,270
This stuff I didn't understand
how they were making it.
686
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,060
With the computers and
the techniques involved.
687
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,400
There's something going
on the back of my head saying:
688
00:48:27,610 --> 00:48:28,980
"How do they do this?"
689
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:37,580
Everything else got so boring
towards the end of the 90s...
690
00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:40,830
Everyone's just doing
the same shit,
691
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,420
so we kind of stepped back
I suppose,
692
00:48:43,580 --> 00:48:45,460
and done our own thing.
693
00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:54,180
So do your homework!
694
00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:56,800
And it's easy today...
695
00:48:57,010 --> 00:49:01,020
You go on the lpad, on the Internet.
It's all there for you.
696
00:49:01,180 --> 00:49:05,190
We never had that back then.
We had to physically do these things.
697
00:49:05,350 --> 00:49:06,810
We couldn't just Google.
698
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,300
When I started making films,
I didn't know what I was doing.
699
00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:32,590
Nobody did!
700
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,720
There's no conscious explanation
why you start to make movies
701
00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:38,050
or any art,
702
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:40,560
it comes from within,
like a need.
703
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:48,400
A lot of people when they are young
feel that they are out of place,
704
00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:50,020
that they don't fit,
705
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:53,530
they hyper focus their
creativity on something,
706
00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:55,950
you are just being an artist.
707
00:50:08,540 --> 00:50:10,960
People think I'm
an outsider in Hollywood,
708
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:13,840
this mythical version of me,
fighting the system.
709
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,090
I wanted to make films,
and make someone pay the bills,
710
00:50:18,510 --> 00:50:20,350
but I just didn't fit in the system.
711
00:50:20,510 --> 00:50:22,680
I had to do it myself.
712
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,900
I think those composers
started as a revolution
713
00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:32,150
against the coolness of guitars
when the 80s were denied,
714
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:33,860
but they didn't know it.
715
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,110
They were against the trend,
716
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,990
outsiders but in the most
youthful naive way.
717
00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:42,790
That's a very punk attitude.
I can relate to that.
718
00:50:45,410 --> 00:50:48,000
All meaningful art
has to break rules.
719
00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:50,960
You don't knock on the door
and ask for permission.
720
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:54,760
You just break the wall down
and hope someone will listen.
721
00:51:06,140 --> 00:51:10,100
I started scoring my own movies
because I was cheap and fast,
722
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:12,570
and I just didn't have
any money to hire
723
00:51:12,730 --> 00:51:14,730
a sound engineer or a composer.
724
00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:18,990
As my father was a music professor,
I was forced to play violin,
725
00:51:19,150 --> 00:51:20,950
but I had no talent.
726
00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:23,990
So I switched to
keyboards and guitars.
727
00:51:27,290 --> 00:51:29,330
A movie score is really about mood,
728
00:51:29,540 --> 00:51:31,830
like laying a carpet down
for the scene.
729
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,050
Sometimes it's the simplest things.
730
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:40,180
It may not be much to it,
and it may not take too much talent...
731
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:43,430
a long descendant note,
a repeating pattern...
732
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,020
but it just make you watch the screen!
733
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,310
And that's the whole point:
734
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,890
Make you watch and
listen to the movie.
735
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,440
I think people were very willing
to forget what happened before,
736
00:51:56,610 --> 00:51:58,820
we were always in this state of mind:
737
00:51:58,990 --> 00:52:01,780
"Yes, we'll go ahead, we'll do
best movies, best music"
738
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:05,450
But there's a blockage,
something that doesn't work anymore.
739
00:52:05,780 --> 00:52:07,830
And people look behind,
and say to themselves:
740
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,790
"There was something cool in the 80s."
"I really like neons."
741
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,550
I too had this effect and
watched tons of films,
742
00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:18,050
I watched everything.
743
00:52:18,170 --> 00:52:20,420
"The Goonies", "Gremlins", "Scarf ace"
744
00:52:20,590 --> 00:52:22,430
"Rocky" and "Rambo", everything.
745
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,140
And I realized that it's true.
There is something attractive.
746
00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:28,520
We want to be there.
747
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,690
We don't want to be sitting
in front of our shitty television,
748
00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:34,610
eating expired chips.
749
00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:38,360
We want to be in “Back to the future",
in the "Delorean".
750
00:52:38,530 --> 00:52:39,780
"Back to the Future", yeah
751
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,110
88mph man, get me back there.
752
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,530
The “Rocky montage!"
753
00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:46,120
Oh my God, the 80s!
754
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:14,900
When I think about the 80s
755
00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:18,440
I think about sitting and watching
"Ninja Turtles" and cartoons...
756
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,360
If you look back in history,
everything's in black and white.
757
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:24,530
And you think the world
is in black and white.
758
00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:28,660
When you think of the 80s,
you sort of see it as that VHS...
759
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:31,250
...kind of out of tune TV.
760
00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:34,960
Maybe that's what stuck with everyone.
Everyone had that experience.
761
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,090
I was born in 1983, and
I actually grew up in Croatia.
762
00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:44,630
Then we had the war in 1991 and it
was like the end of an era.
763
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,720
I was part of the Eastern Bloc
764
00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:50,970
and all the movies were
coming from the US
765
00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:55,230
and it was like this holy grail of
what life could be.
766
00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:58,110
Specially because I was
such a small kid
767
00:53:58,270 --> 00:54:00,900
it had this mythical proportions.
768
00:54:01,070 --> 00:54:03,150
I grew up in a housing project,
and I think
769
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,860
it has really influenced my culture.
770
00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:08,700
There were several housing projects
like that in France,
771
00:54:09,490 --> 00:54:12,410
which were somewhat modeled
on the US housing estates models.
772
00:54:12,620 --> 00:54:17,420
With the school, the supermarket.
Everything in one place.
773
00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:19,590
And as we watched TV shows,
774
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:22,210
somehow we felt like we
were in California.
775
00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:25,800
But no, we were in the
suburbs of Nantes.
776
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:27,760
I was born in 1977.
777
00:54:28,010 --> 00:54:30,220
So in 80s, I'm kind of young.
I'm growing up.
778
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:33,850
The Stallone thing... probably I was
watching the "Rocky" films as a kid.
779
00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:36,560
The "Knight Rider", "A-team",
all these shows are on...
780
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:39,690
The synthesizer music,
the action...
781
00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:43,530
the macho, "Rambo", all these...
80s films.
782
00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:45,690
That stuff sticks with you,
you know?
783
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:49,160
I grew up, I don't want to say poor,
but we didn't have a lot of money.
784
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,410
So when we got our first VCR,
it was a big deal.
785
00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:54,750
A super big deal.
786
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:56,540
I remember getting an Atari 2600.
787
00:54:56,790 --> 00:54:59,630
When we finally got one in the house,
it was a cool thing.
788
00:54:59,830 --> 00:55:03,000
Watching Pac-Man who wouldn't turn
sideways. It would just go like this.
789
00:55:03,460 --> 00:55:09,800
I was playing with fucking rocks,
sticks and treasure-hunting in the 80s
790
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:12,430
Listening to bands like...
791
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,560
I don't know the name of the group
that did "Pop up the volume".
792
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,020
That shit was huge for
me when I was six.
793
00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:19,060
The Walkman.
794
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:23,520
You were carrying your cassettes,
with your pencil to rewind them.
795
00:55:23,770 --> 00:55:26,320
When you grow up it's your best time.
796
00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:29,530
When you're a teenager,
and you're discovering everything.
797
00:55:29,780 --> 00:55:30,820
If you know what I mean.
798
00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:34,740
And when you get older,
life is actually less amusing.
799
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:38,870
So you try to put yourself back,
in the moments that made you happy.
800
00:55:39,290 --> 00:55:41,080
For me, it's the 80.
801
00:55:41,290 --> 00:55:44,210
This is what is called in France
“Proust's madeleine...
802
00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:49,510
There is a little smell, right? like
when you had glue "Clutre" pots.
803
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,340
Well now, if you smell that glue,
804
00:55:52,510 --> 00:55:55,310
it automatically reminds you
when you were in primary school.
805
00:55:55,470 --> 00:55:58,850
Probably when things were
simpler, a young age...
806
00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:02,770
I didn't have all these worries.
I had more hair!
807
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:05,320
Everything was better
when I was younger.
808
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,070
I had a future!
809
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,020
I think nostalgia plays a huge role.
810
00:56:38,180 --> 00:56:44,100
Because the audience is about
the same age as me.
811
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:49,070
Growing up in the 80s, and their
childhood is in the 80s.
812
00:56:49,230 --> 00:56:54,740
So there's a lot of sounds that relate
to something that they grew up with.
813
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:03,620
The thing that leads people who aren't
into electronic music or Synthwave
814
00:57:03,830 --> 00:57:08,170
it seems to always be movies
or TV shows.
815
00:57:08,340 --> 00:57:10,710
It's that strange?
It's not just the fashion
816
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,050
or hearing it on the radio.
817
00:57:13,220 --> 00:57:15,470
It's actually movies.
It's interesting.
818
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,890
I wouldn't say it was so much the 80s.
819
00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:20,270
It's that the sounds that we
fell in love with
820
00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:23,770
were a lot of that synthesized
soundtracks from movies.
821
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:26,690
Definitely soundtracks is what we
always pay attention to.
822
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:29,940
Like: "Those sounds are so cool."
How do we get that sound?
823
00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:34,280
The language that we share
in the studio
824
00:57:34,530 --> 00:57:36,910
it's almost never bands.
825
00:57:37,070 --> 00:57:39,490
It's like: "Put a bit
more Goonies in it."
826
00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:41,370
"Put a bit more Terminator in it"
827
00:57:41,540 --> 00:57:43,410
It's all visual, isn't it?.
828
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:46,670
That's the language we use and I
haven't realised that until now.
829
00:57:49,170 --> 00:57:51,920
One of my favorite records ever.
830
00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:55,590
That's a big track for me.
831
00:57:58,850 --> 00:58:01,180
It would definitely be
the "Rocky" soundtrack.
832
00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:02,270
I had them on tape.
833
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,810
"Rocky lV", such a big soundtrack...
834
00:58:06,980 --> 00:58:09,560
“Miami Vice", "Mad Max"...
835
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:12,480
those kind of soundtracks.
“Lethal Weapon"
836
00:58:12,730 --> 00:58:15,280
"Over the Top", "Top Gun", "Scarf ace"
837
00:58:15,530 --> 00:58:19,070
“StarWars, “Robocop“, “Predator,
"Terminator.
838
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,030
“Ghostbusters".
839
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,620
I got some bottles of water,
and a piece of wood,
840
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:24,580
and I went to school like:
"Yeah, Ghostbusters!“
841
00:58:24,750 --> 00:58:27,830
In fact, that's what I wanted to do
later as a profession.
842
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,580
Ghost hunter.
I thought it was cool.
843
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:34,130
I told you there was a dinosaur!
844
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,340
I'm still a newbie.
845
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:40,550
I'm discovering things everyday.
846
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,060
I wasn't born in the 80s!
847
00:58:42,220 --> 00:58:44,930
But I love films from that era.
848
00:58:45,140 --> 00:58:48,060
Because I love "The Goonies", the
old "Star Wars" and all that stuff.
849
00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:50,980
There was "Miami Vice"
850
00:58:51,150 --> 00:58:53,030
Who was the composer?
851
00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:55,110
I don't remember.
852
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:56,490
I'm very cold.
853
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,820
It's funny. I know a lot of directors
from back in the 80s,
854
00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:03,040
but I don't know many of
the composers.
855
00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:10,170
I think a lot of the music
that we love from that era,
856
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:15,170
even Steven Seagal movies and
really bad straight to VHS movies,
857
00:59:15,340 --> 00:59:18,470
those composers didn't influence
people, they didn't move on.
858
00:59:18,590 --> 00:59:22,350
They made this amazing music,
that just came and went.
859
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,810
I loved those cheesy movies...
860
00:59:24,970 --> 00:59:27,640
those b-movie sounds.
There's one...
861
00:59:27,850 --> 00:59:30,600
it might be the one...
with Johnny Depp...
862
00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:32,270
"Private Resort".
863
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,030
It's rubbish acting but with
some really good music.
864
00:59:36,190 --> 00:59:38,150
All that music is never
going to be released
865
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,240
because there's not a
mass-appeal to it.
866
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:43,780
It's just a random 80s movie with
music in the background.
867
00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:46,040
Obviously the big guys
like John Carpenter and...
868
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,540
Hans Zimmer and all those
guys back then...
869
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:52,710
they all set influences but
there's a whole world
870
00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:56,550
of 80s soundtracks that
didn't influence anyone.
871
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,130
That came and went.
872
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:01,180
Only now people are
sort of bringing it back.
873
01:00:09,850 --> 01:00:11,980
We ain't influenced by anything
874
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:14,860
that was particularly
mainstream in the 80s.
875
01:00:15,070 --> 01:00:18,240
Probably "movie-driven" things.
876
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,360
The "Blade runner" soundtrack
877
01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:23,530
is the most significant
influence for us.
878
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:27,490
A lot of the patch design and
stuff we do on the synths
879
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:31,960
is almost always referencing "Blade
Runner" in one way or another.
880
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,250
For me it's timeless.
881
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:37,000
It's a movie that hasn't aged.
It's a film that is beautiful.
882
01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:38,380
The score... everything is perfect.
883
01:00:38,550 --> 01:00:41,170
The score it's so...
extraterrestrial.
884
01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:43,550
It's sounds we've never heard before.
885
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,470
And even today when I listen
to the Vangelis score,
886
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,970
I don't know anyone else who has done
that. Nobody.
887
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:51,180
And I know many who tries.
Me, including.
888
01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:56,520
Also, Giorgio Moroder.
Very important producer.
889
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,540
I really like him but
I discovered him very late.
890
01:01:08,740 --> 01:01:11,500
Maybe 10 years ago, to be honest.
891
01:01:11,710 --> 01:01:14,000
I like his soundtracks a lot...
892
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,880
the work on "Scarf ace" or
even "Cat People".
893
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,760
It's a quite unfamiliar movie but it
has a really nice soundtrack.
894
01:01:23,090 --> 01:01:26,510
And he was also coming
from like the disco age.
895
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,020
And then, all of a sudden, he's doing
soundscaping soundtracks.
896
01:01:32,180 --> 01:01:34,560
So it's an interesting mix.
897
01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:37,940
I think about horror films
and John Carpenter.
898
01:01:38,110 --> 01:01:39,320
John Carpenter movies.
899
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,940
John Carpenter.
900
01:01:44,990 --> 01:01:47,200
Obviously John Carpenter
kind of started
901
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:52,450
the whole simple ridiculous
four-note fucking riff,
902
01:01:52,620 --> 01:01:54,660
that can be really
powerful and creepy.
903
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,000
I watched "Escape from New York",
904
01:01:57,130 --> 01:01:59,920
hundreds of times before I was 20.
905
01:02:00,090 --> 01:02:02,210
He creates melodies that stay in your
head...
906
01:02:02,420 --> 01:02:03,220
forever.
907
01:02:03,630 --> 01:02:05,590
He's a rock star. It's a
cheesy thing to say
908
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,890
but he's an outsider.
909
01:02:07,090 --> 01:02:09,800
He's a man that was like: "the status
quo can go fuck itself".
910
01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:12,470
I relate to his attitude,
back in the days.
911
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,310
"I don't have an studio
that's gonna help me,
912
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,560
I'm all by myself,
913
01:02:16,690 --> 01:02:17,560
but I'm gonna find a way.“
914
01:02:17,770 --> 01:02:19,060
It's like: "Fuck you all."
915
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:28,700
If you think about Carpenter movies,
what is it that you remember?
916
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:32,700
It's the atmosphere!
And that's the same with Synthwave.
917
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,870
And that's why I think we're all
obsessed with Carpenter.
918
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:38,380
He's the full father of
the whole thing.
919
01:02:38,540 --> 01:02:42,460
Maybe that's the introduction to
Synthwave: watch Carpenter's movies.
920
01:03:04,780 --> 01:03:07,820
My family moved to Bowling Green,
Kentucky, when I was a kid
921
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:10,620
and it was a strange place to grow up.
922
01:03:11,660 --> 01:03:15,950
I was afraid of everything back in
those days and I became a strange kid.
923
01:03:16,330 --> 01:03:19,000
I was very unhappy.
So what did I do?
924
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,420
I run into the cinema
to escape from that,
925
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,550
it was my place to hide
from the world.
926
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:26,920
That's where the world made sense.
927
01:03:27,970 --> 01:03:30,430
Soto me, movies were a miracle.
928
01:03:30,590 --> 01:03:34,260
And then I realize: "hey,
there's someone behind the camera"
929
01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:36,430
"There's someone who's leading this"
930
01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:40,440
Then I saw “Forbidden planet in 1956
931
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,320
and I said: “that's it. I
have to do that."
932
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:59,210
Sound is just a vibration in the air
that goes through your ear.
933
01:04:00,210 --> 01:04:03,750
There're probably a lot of scientific
theories about music and art
934
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,510
and how it works and how it moves you
in a certain way or another,
935
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,130
but who cares?
Are you gonna make art in a lab?
936
01:04:11,300 --> 01:04:12,720
I don't think so.
937
01:04:13,050 --> 01:04:16,810
Art, the way I see it,
it's just a vehicle for emotions.
938
01:05:02,810 --> 01:05:05,060
In my mind some of the originators,
939
01:05:05,230 --> 01:05:08,650
the people who created the
synthesizer sound
940
01:05:08,820 --> 01:05:11,950
were the people that were
getting those early Moogs.
941
01:05:12,110 --> 01:05:14,530
Keith Emerson and Wendy Carlos.
942
01:05:14,740 --> 01:05:15,820
Giorgio Moroder,
943
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:17,120
John Carpenter,
944
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,830
Vangelis, who I think is
massively talented.
945
01:05:19,990 --> 01:05:23,160
You watch this guy basically
compose and entire orchestra of sounds
946
01:05:23,330 --> 01:05:26,000
just him on a synthesizer.
947
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,130
Tomita, he's a japanese
composer as well.
948
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:34,090
So there were super talented guys.
949
01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:37,350
They were at the right time and place,
technologically speaking.
950
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,810
This is the stuff that my grandfather
played me when I was a kid.
951
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:43,060
I remember him bringing
me into this room
952
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,940
popping these huge headphones
on my head
953
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,360
and introduced me to a world
of synthesizers.
954
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,900
I didn't know what could make these
sounds but I was mystified by it
955
01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:54,320
and I had to find out.
956
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,680
Most the people that are
listening to it
957
01:06:21,890 --> 01:06:23,770
are probably like me.
958
01:06:23,930 --> 01:06:27,650
They're pretty nerdy and
I would guess they probably know
959
01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:30,020
the origin of where
the music is coming from.
960
01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:33,190
One thing I thought
was very different
961
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,530
that kind of attracted me to it
was the community.
962
01:06:35,650 --> 01:06:38,410
An awareness of where they came from.
963
01:06:38,620 --> 01:06:41,990
A lot of music scenes... they
couldn't care less.
964
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:54,340
Tangerine Dream... this huge
influence for me.
965
01:06:54,510 --> 01:06:56,510
The sequencing... the gear.
966
01:06:56,670 --> 01:06:59,340
The improvisational aspect
of their music.
967
01:06:59,510 --> 01:07:02,640
Specially the sort of mid to
late 70s period.
968
01:07:05,890 --> 01:07:07,440
There was already Tangerine
Dream,
969
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,980
but they were more focused
on live performances
970
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:15,820
with amazing shows
in cathedrals and everything.
971
01:07:16,030 --> 01:07:19,990
And then they started to work
with Hollywood on film scores.
972
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,530
And I think that's where the link
between
973
01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:23,660
synthesizer music
974
01:07:23,830 --> 01:07:24,990
and the visuals was born.
975
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,790
If we're going back to that,
it's gonna be Tangerine Dream.
976
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,750
I wasn't into them until the 80s, but
they started in the 70s.
977
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:37,130
When my dad first showed me "Thief",
978
01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:40,300
the main thing that caught me
was the soundtrack,
979
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:43,930
and instantly I was like:
"What is this music?"
980
01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:48,390
They came out of the 70s
981
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,520
but their work on movie
soundtracks in the 80s...
982
01:07:51,730 --> 01:07:55,280
When I saw "Risky Business" and
heard that soundtrack...
983
01:07:55,690 --> 01:07:59,110
My favorite is “Love on a real train",
I think it's many people's favorite.
984
01:08:00,820 --> 01:08:04,530
The 80s were very special musically,
in my opinion,
985
01:08:04,660 --> 01:08:07,790
because of the synthesizer and
how much it was used.
986
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,460
The soundtracks...
987
01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:12,540
...simple soundtracks
on synthesizers were amazing
988
01:08:12,750 --> 01:08:17,550
and it's just simply because of
that instrument gained popularity,
989
01:08:17,710 --> 01:08:22,140
through Giorgio Moroder and all
those clowns from the 70s.
990
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:23,680
Goblin!
991
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:27,310
Goblin!
Absolutely fantastic.
992
01:08:27,470 --> 01:08:30,980
The stuff they did with
Argento is phenomenal,
993
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:33,810
everything from "Profondo Rosso",
"Suspiria"...
994
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:36,270
live drums, live bass, live guitar,
995
01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:38,480
live keyboards. All together.
996
01:08:38,690 --> 01:08:42,780
It's fantastic! Like a
responsive scoring.
997
01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:46,700
When you say 70s music,
I think Jean Michel Jarre was
998
01:08:46,910 --> 01:08:49,620
maybe, by far, my biggest influence.
999
01:08:49,750 --> 01:08:53,460
Because that sound he had in
the "Oxygen" album.
1000
01:08:53,580 --> 01:08:55,340
In the 70s you also had "Kraftwerk".
1001
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,590
I liked their track "Radioactivity".
1002
01:08:57,750 --> 01:08:59,300
Maybe it's a little bit Synthwave.
1003
01:09:07,010 --> 01:09:12,230
Often you find composers,
and they are just film composers
1004
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,810
or bands and they make albums.
1005
01:09:14,980 --> 01:09:18,360
But Moroder and Tangerine Dream
1006
01:09:18,940 --> 01:09:22,700
were the first ones to
show this model of...
1007
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:25,570
being able to have presence
in both worlds.
1008
01:09:26,410 --> 01:09:29,700
And for that they are
super influential to us.
1009
01:09:29,830 --> 01:09:32,250
For me it's a nod to those guys:
1010
01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:36,130
Jean Michel Jarre, Kraftwert,
all those early electronic guys,
1011
01:09:36,380 --> 01:09:40,550
Faltermeyer and Jan Hammer, and
those guys... Moroder!
1012
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:44,220
That's what we were doing,
That's what I was doing,
1013
01:09:44,380 --> 01:09:47,760
paying respect to them,
the electronic stuff I grew up with.
1014
01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:51,220
People were focused on
being more real.
1015
01:09:51,350 --> 01:09:54,230
The record labels were signing
decent fucking bands.
1016
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:57,900
The radio played good music.
That's gone.
1017
01:09:59,650 --> 01:10:03,070
What I love about it is that you just
don't think about what you're doing,
1018
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,320
you just do it by trusting your guts.
1019
01:10:05,660 --> 01:10:07,820
And trust me, it might
not be original.
1020
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,290
There's probably someone before you
already doing what you're doing,
1021
01:10:11,540 --> 01:10:13,080
but it shouldn't stop you.
1022
01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:15,080
All art is like that.
1023
01:10:15,620 --> 01:10:19,790
We all emulate someone,
every artist imitates something.
1024
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,670
Music, movies, paintings, books...
All of it.
1025
01:10:24,510 --> 01:10:26,340
We take what's already been done.
1026
01:10:26,510 --> 01:10:30,640
That's what's so great about Art!
It's the human existence!
1027
01:10:30,930 --> 01:10:33,310
There you have it, right up
in front of you!
1028
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:36,270
Artists put it up there
and you can take a little from it.
1029
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,480
Just don't take too much and
make it your own thing.
1030
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,940
Now that we've arrived at
the end of our trip,
1031
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:22,270
I have a question for all you
synthriders out there listening:
1032
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:25,320
the journey to the past was fun,
right?
1033
01:11:26,030 --> 01:11:27,740
But, where is all this heading?
1034
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,200
I'm still surprised that people
ask you questions
1035
01:11:36,410 --> 01:11:40,500
for something you did years back
and show interest in what you do.
1036
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,420
I'm happy if people enjoy the music.
1037
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:45,760
If they feel like I
contributed to something.
1038
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,760
It'll get bigger to the point where
it'll fall into itself
1039
01:11:48,930 --> 01:11:50,590
and it'll be super uncool again.
1040
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,060
But, how long do we have?
Maybe 5-10 years?
1041
01:11:54,220 --> 01:11:55,470
Better keep going!
1042
01:11:55,810 --> 01:11:59,770
This whole belief of:
"Let's stay small and stay..."
1043
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,520
Just make music you like!
1044
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:05,230
Stop worrying about what other
people are making.
1045
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,190
Like... Who gives a shit?
1046
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:13,740
It's definitely changed my life in
the fact that I do it for a living.
1047
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:16,540
But it's not just that.
I actually love what I do.
1048
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:19,750
We love the music we make.
We'd be making it regardless.
1049
01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:21,250
But it's pretty obvious
1050
01:12:21,460 --> 01:12:24,460
which artists are gonna make
it out of the scene.
1051
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:27,210
Notably, those actually
playing live shows.
1052
01:12:27,380 --> 01:12:28,210
Yeah, absolutely.
1053
01:12:28,380 --> 01:12:30,970
Because that's the best part
of being in a band: Performing.
1054
01:12:31,550 --> 01:12:35,050
You could be an internet band,
or be a band and play live.
1055
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:42,230
It's headed pretty steady into
becoming mainstream territory,
1056
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,940
which actually isn't so bad.
1057
01:12:44,110 --> 01:12:48,190
Because seeing where your music ends
up in the world is pretty cool.
1058
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,700
All we need now is like a
Synthwave perfume
1059
01:12:50,860 --> 01:12:53,240
and that'll be the thing that
takes you back.
1060
01:12:56,830 --> 01:12:59,370
I feel you're not really
making proper Synthwave
1061
01:12:59,540 --> 01:13:02,870
if you are not able to embody
the nostalgia in your music.
1062
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,830
That's pretty much the key ingredient.
1063
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,170
When I'm writing I'm always picturing
1064
01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:10,420
that scene from a John Hughes movie
1065
01:13:10,590 --> 01:13:13,130
whether everyone's going to school
at the opening credits
1066
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:16,720
or someone's leaving the school
at the end credits.
1067
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:27,320
There's a certain respect for the 80s,
right?
1068
01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:29,730
It's not a time period that,
1069
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:33,320
at least currently, people
have forgotten about.
1070
01:13:33,530 --> 01:13:36,370
The music is still
heard on the radio,
1071
01:13:36,530 --> 01:13:39,080
the movies are still popular.
1072
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,080
There's a nostalgia value that
is still alive today.
1073
01:13:42,250 --> 01:13:45,670
And that is what, you know,
energizes the youth
1074
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:48,670
that might have not
been around in the 80s.
1075
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,670
I get messages from people
that weren't even born in the 80s.
1076
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,930
That go: "Wow, you make me miss a
period I didn't even know"
1077
01:13:56,140 --> 01:13:58,390
"I wasn't even alive then."
And that's interesting
1078
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,770
because when I did "The Midnight"
I wanted to...
1079
01:14:00,970 --> 01:14:03,390
...whenever it felt too much,
I added more.
1080
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,560
If you don't like the 80s, you're
really gonna hate "The Midnight".
1081
01:14:06,810 --> 01:14:09,020
Technically, I was not born.
1082
01:14:11,070 --> 01:14:12,860
It's true that
1083
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:16,610
most of those who listen to
Synthwave were not born.
1084
01:14:16,780 --> 01:14:19,160
So, I wonder how
you can be nostalgic
1085
01:14:19,330 --> 01:14:20,740
of something you
did not know.
1086
01:14:20,910 --> 01:14:22,830
For me, the only nostalgia,
that would be...
1087
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,500
that I thought life was cooler
in the 80s.
1088
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:28,920
People seemed less stressed.
1089
01:14:30,090 --> 01:14:31,750
Everything was more colorful...
1090
01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:34,420
Color doesn't exist anymore nowadays.
1091
01:14:34,670 --> 01:14:36,260
It's all gone now.
1092
01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:42,060
It's sort of... the collective
nostalgia of our generation,
1093
01:14:42,890 --> 01:14:45,020
encapsulated in music form.
1094
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:48,270
It's this weird longing for something
1095
01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:51,190
that a lot of people might
never have experienced.
1096
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,530
It's like a
misremembering of the past.
1097
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:55,190
Specially if you weren't there.
1098
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,110
You're kind of like
reimagining things,
1099
01:14:58,410 --> 01:15:01,910
convince ourselves that something
was this certain way
1100
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,580
and then we'll perpetuate
that kind of myth.
1101
01:15:04,750 --> 01:15:06,620
Maybe we were born in
the wrong decade.
1102
01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:11,670
I don't expect people,
when listen to my music
1103
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,130
to go: "Fuck, the
eighties were so great"
1104
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:16,470
Because that's not really the goal
of my music.
1105
01:15:16,670 --> 01:15:18,930
For me the 80s,
it's a theme, a tool,
1106
01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:20,090
but not the absolute meaning.
1107
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:22,430
But it's true that there are people
who come and say:
1108
01:15:23,220 --> 01:15:25,470
"It's not 80s enough what you do."
1109
01:15:28,770 --> 01:15:29,850
It makes me laugh.
1110
01:15:30,060 --> 01:15:32,110
I don't know.
They don't get it.
1111
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:35,230
For me Synthwave it's the perfect tool
to say: "lt was better back then"
1112
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:36,780
But I don't know if it was better,
you know?
1113
01:15:36,940 --> 01:15:37,950
I don't think so but...
1114
01:15:38,110 --> 01:15:39,700
it just music.
All of this it's pointless.
1115
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:40,950
You can't explain that.
1116
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,700
You want people to listen to it,
and if they like it you go:
1117
01:15:43,870 --> 01:15:46,370
"It's great folks, we meet
in a common place"
1118
01:15:46,620 --> 01:15:48,710
Have fun and never forget you
are going to die.
1119
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:49,710
End slate!
1120
01:16:09,020 --> 01:16:12,310
This is my message to
all of you artists standing out there,
1121
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,520
in the shadows, behind your computers,
1122
01:16:14,730 --> 01:16:17,490
your avatars and your masks.
1123
01:16:17,860 --> 01:16:19,200
To the lost boy,
1124
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:21,360
the fearless girl,
1125
01:16:21,610 --> 01:16:23,240
the elders and the youngsters.
1126
01:16:23,950 --> 01:16:26,870
The ones diving into the
past for inspiration
1127
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,910
and the ones longing for a
future yet to come.
1128
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:32,710
Yes, this is a message for you.
1129
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,210
The artist listening to this
in your bedroom.
1130
01:16:35,540 --> 01:16:38,880
It's true that it's hard to say
something new and groundbreaking
1131
01:16:39,010 --> 01:16:41,300
that hasn't been said already.
1132
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,430
But I believe that people should
create what they want.
1133
01:16:50,890 --> 01:16:52,770
Create something and put it out there
1134
01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:57,110
because no one is going to hear you
if it's in your hard drive.
1135
01:16:59,860 --> 01:17:04,320
Remember me: Your art can
literally change the world.
1136
01:17:04,990 --> 01:17:06,120
I'm waiting for it.
1137
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:09,910
Love to you all. John Carpenter.
90110
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