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It seems too graphic
and unemotional.
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I would prefer
those grieving people.
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- For this double page here?
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Yes, for the big page.
- Okay.
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There's already a great deal
of misery in it!
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I like this sad
figure walking through
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the streets full of destruction...
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Fits perfect!
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And Goma! One million refugees!
Thousands died
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and couldn't be
buried in the volcanic
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soil. There were piles of corpses!
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Right! The piles of corpses...
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It'd be great!
There are the piles!
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Okay.
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That looks fantastic!
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You think we should
use this one? - I'd enlarge it.
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This is also a terrific picture.
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The corpses being dumped.
- Maybe we should put it here.
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Have it enlarged.
- Okay, fine.
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Can you tell that the corpses
being dumped aren't in Africa?
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You don't have
to see the corpses...
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You can substitute
them with this.
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Here you feel like you're being
shown some scene in Africa.
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It starts with Africa, and you
think it's an African horror trip.
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But his idea is worldwide horror.
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It zooms in again...
- Then there's the head...
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Then there's that poor guy.
- Looks terrific. - Okay.
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Exactly.
Then we'll have a look at it.
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Comma... now it's shorter.
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After the Berlin Wall fell,
wars changed.
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It was no longer nation against
nation,
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but people against people.
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Instead of high-tech weapons...
rifles
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and machetes.
- James Nachtwey,
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the world's most
famous war photographer,
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has portrayed
these new conflicts and
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victims in a way
nobody else ever could.
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My son has arrived!
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Oh, my son! Oh, my son!
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Oh, you!
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"Please, don't," I said.
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"My brother
is deaf and speechless."
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But they threw him
down from the truck,
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took his money and killed him.
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They cut off my other
brother's arm with a bread knife.
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They tore my uncle's
son from his arms,
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but he wouldn't let go.
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So they shot him in the head,
and the child fell on the ground.
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They gave me 2 minutes time,
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and they held an automatic
weapon at my neck.
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They wanted money.
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Goodbye.
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There are war photographers
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who are only
able to endure the horror
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of what they've seen,
experienced and escaped...
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like in Vietnam...
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by going with the soldiers
to the same brothels
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and bars
and drinking the same whisky.
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Others have become cynical.
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Jim is a remarkably
uncynical person,
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which is all the more remarkable,
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because most people have seen
a lot less misery and suffering.
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Lonely because...
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his experience sets him apart
from his colleagues and others.
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He has become
a different person
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as a result of those 25 years.
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While we talked
about that horror
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in order to
comprehend what we saw,
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the absolute inferno of people
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who were dead,
dying and vomiting,
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never-ending lines of people
waiting outside the first-aid tents,
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Jim said almost nothing.
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Jim said hello. He talked
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about some
organizational details,
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then he said, "I'm going to bed."
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And while
we needed beer to recover
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from what we'd seen that day,
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Jim had
one or two glasses of water
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before going to bed.
Then he got up early
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the next day to head out alone.
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Good morning, Mister.
- Good morning.
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For me, the early 80s
were characterized
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by my move to New York.
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I was a photo editor for GEO.
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I'd worked
for SPIEGEL before that,
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and I had an opportunity
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to take over
the photography department
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at the New York office of STERN.
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That was in 1982.
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It was
the first time that Nachtwey
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came to STERN's office
with a portfolio,
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and that led to a friendship,
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a love affair.
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Both of us had an idea
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what that New York situation
was supposed to lead to.
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Nachtwey wanted
to make a name for himself.
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He was very bright...
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and determined.
His mind was focused
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Like flight routes.
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No winding roads.
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There was one distinct,
straight, narrow, stony path
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he had decided to take.
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Of course,
at times I wished it was
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a warmer, closer,
more intense relationship.
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But his work was
of great importance.
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I'll do it.
I'll do it with my pictures.
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I'll convince
people with my pictures.
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Nachtwey came
back from Nicaragua.
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He was relaxed and happy.
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He brought me a necklace
made of shells.
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He put it around my neck,
and I thought that was great.
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I remember
the first time I met him.
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His hair was parted,
his jeans were creased,
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his shirt was immaculate.
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And amidst all
that dust and chaos,
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stood this man
I'd never seen before
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taking his pictures. He was
in no hurry like the others.
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He was somehow calm,
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as suddenly
South African photographer
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Ken Oosterbroek
was killed next to him.
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Normally, two sorts of journalists
are hit:
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the ones
on their first assignment,
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and the ones
who have been at it too long
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and think they're bulletproof.
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Jim is in danger
of seeing himself as bulletproof,
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in danger of pushing his luck
once too often.
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As someone
who is quite reserved,
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he needs that kick,
that adventure,
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that flow of adrenalin
and the fear of dying,
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in order to feel alive.
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Jim is at his best
in the most extreme situation.
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That's it. He keeps
on pushing those limits.
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Tough...
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Tough, tough, tough.
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It's also very difficult
to talk to Nachtwey
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about the insane situations
he has narrowly escaped.
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It's excruciating the way some
photographers and journalists
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never stop talking about what
they've experienced.
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With Nachtwey, however,
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you have to
drag everything out of him.
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You really have to beg him,
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and, even then, he tries to avoid
making the impression
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that he's bragging, showing off.
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When he returned
from an assignment,
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and I wanted to grab him
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and say,
"Tell me about it. How was it?"
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No, first he had
to develop the pictures
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and then look at them.
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I don't know
where he kept everything,
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or where he keeps it,
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because the photo
material alone, the pictures,
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are only a fraction
of what he has seen, felt, smelled
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and heard.
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He has his own library
of suffering in his head.
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What were you thinking of?
Don't you want to talk about it?
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Allah is great!
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I feel that
James Nachtwey's pictures
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possess the precision
of a war surgeon.
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He hates to hear that.
He doesn't want to be compared
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to a war surgeon,
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because everyone
will then say,
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"Aha, a
cold-hearted war surgeon."
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He is unrelentless when dealing
with people and situations.
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This very old-fashioned,
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very unmodern characteristic
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makes him, at the same time,
so untypical, so fascinating.
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Do I make a living
from other people's suffering?
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Has their suffering
and misery been...
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my ladder to success?
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Do I exploit people?
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Am I the bloodsucker?
The vampire with the camera?
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Thank you.
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