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- Tonight on "History's
Greatest Mysteries":
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The Roswell investigation goes
into uncharted territory.
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Previously, a cryptic journal
may hold vital clues
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to what crashed near
Roswell in 1947.
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It belonged to an Army
intelligence officer
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who inspected the wreckage
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and was sure
it was extraterrestrial.
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- It was not anything
from this Earth.
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That I'm quite sure of.
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Fishburne: But the Army said
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it was a routine
weather balloon.
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Decades later, that officer,
Jesse Marcel,
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said he was forced to lie.
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- But all I could do
was keep my mouth shut.
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[flash bulb crackles]
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Fishburne: His family hopes
a former CIA investigator
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will find the truth,
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which might be hiding
inside the mysterious journal.
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- What I'm seeing throughout
the document is consistent
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with that time period.
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Fishburne:
It has been authenticated
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by a forensic document expert,
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but what does the strange
writing mean?
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I'm Laurence Fishburne.
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As our mystery continues, a
famed cryptologist
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examines the journal
for signs of a code.
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Is there a message the writer
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wanted the world to hear?
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And can new technology read
the words of a memo
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from a photograph
taken after the Roswell crash?
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- If this document says
"victims of the wreck,"
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it negates
the skeptical arguments
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about the Roswell case.
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Fishburne: And tracking down
the family
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of alleged eyewitnesses
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who say they already
know the truth.
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- There were little people
walking around,
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and there were some dead
and some alive.
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What really happened
at Roswell, New Mexico,
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an event that has obsessed
the world?
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[ominous music]
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- It's difficult to determine
whether or not
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those are three
numerical sevens
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or whether they are meant
to form a capital letter M.
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♪ ♪
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- What's the date of that page?
- August 31, 1947.
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- That's interesting.
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Your grandpa would have been
in Roswell at that point.
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- He would have been
in Roswell, yes.
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Fishburne: Former
CIA investigator Ben Smith
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has returned to the office
of Jennifer Naso,
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one of America's top
handwriting experts.
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Joining Smith
is Jesse Marcel's grandson,
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who believes his grandfather
was torn between his duty
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as an intelligent officer
to keep secrets
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and a hunger to tell people
what he really saw.
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- I think my grandfather
really wanted to tell
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everything he knew about it.
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I can't believe for a second
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that he was gonna let
the story die with him.
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Fishburne: For more than
a month,
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Naso has been analyzing
the puzzling journal
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that Marcel kept among
his most valuable papers.
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She has determined
that the journal was written
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during the time period
of the Roswell incident.
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- It's this great mystery.
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Why did Jesse
keep this journal?
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What could it tell us
about Roswell,
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which he said was the defining
event of his life?
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- So what then have you
learned about the handwriting?
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- So I did a handwriting
comparison with the journal
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and the known specimens
I had for Jesse Marcel.
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So here is the lowercase
P formation...
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- Okay.
- Where it starts going up,
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comes down, forms a loop
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and ends to create
the hole of the P.
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- Okay.
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- Here is the known specimen
writing I had of Jesse Marcel.
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And here's a P in "Japanese."
- Yeah.
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- And it does not have
that high approach,
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coming around to loop
and finishing with the P,
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whereas that is seen
throughout this document,
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so it's a constructural
significant difference
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that I'm seeing.
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- So this journal
was not written
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in Major Marcel's handwriting?
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- Not based on the known
writing I had for comparison.
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Fishburne:
It is astonishing news.
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Jesse Marcel is not
the author of the journal.
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- There's no proof indicating
a hoax or a forgery...
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Or that it's anything
but an important document
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to your grandfather in Roswell
at the time.
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- At the time.
- Yeah.
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- It actually raises more
questions than answers, then.
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- Yeah.
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This is intriguing.
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The paper and ink
are from the right period,
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but Jesse is not the author
of the journal,
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so why did he keep it
under lock and key
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for so many years?
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Fishburne: Unlocking
the secrets of the journal
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will take more investigating.
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- If it's not my grandfather's
handwriting, whose is it?
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Fishburne: Who wrote it,
and what does it mean?
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Is it a code
that can be deciphered?
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To find out more,
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Ben Smith heads to the photo
archive of a major university.
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He's hoping to find
supporting evidence
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to verify Marcel's story
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that whatever crashed at
Roswell was extraterrestrial.
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- I'm at the University
of Texas Arlington,
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where the keep
the original negative
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of the infamous Ramey photo.
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Fishburne: That photo
of the press conference
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staged by General Roger Ramey
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has long intrigued
investigators.
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His colleague
General Thomas Dubose
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is holding up a piece
of a weather balloon,
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which Ramey tells reporters
is what really crashed
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in Roswell,
but look more closely.
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In his hand, Ramey is holding
a memo, too blurry to read,
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that some believe could
confirm Jesse Marcel's story
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of a flying saucer.
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- I'm here to meet
Kevin Randle
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to learn about the history
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of all the analyses
conducted on this photo
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and also to figure out,
what more can we do
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to decipher the message
on that memo?
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Kevin.
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- Ben.
- It's so nice to meet you.
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- Good to meet you too.
Grab a chair.
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- Sure.
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Fishburne: Kevin Randle
has written
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more than 80 books
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and is a former
intelligence officer
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and lieutenant colonel
in the Iowa National Guard.
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Among ufologists,
he's considered
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one of the preeminent experts
on the Roswell crash.
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- The Ramey memo
is an interesting part
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of the Roswell incident
because it's a photo
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of potential debris
with Jesse Marcel.
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- It's important because
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we have a provenance for it.
- Right.
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- We can say, "This picture
was taken on July 8, 1947,
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in General Ramey's office."
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We've got the time.
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We know who
the photographer was.
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We know who all
the participants were.
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Fishburne: On July 7, 1947,
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Jesse Marcel returned
to Roswell Army Airfield
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with what he thought was
debris from a flying saucer
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that crashed on a remote ranch
75 miles to the west.
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After viewing
the strange material,
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the base commander
for the 509th,
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Colonel William Blanchard,
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decided to issue
a press release.
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- The press release shows up--
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newspapers all over
the country, obviously.
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"Fort Worth Star-Telegram"
gets it.
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They say,
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"Head out to the base,
to see what's going on.
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They've got a flying saucer."
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[dramatic music]
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Fishburne: News of a flying
saucer set off alarm bells
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at 8th division headquarters,
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so the next day,
General Roger Ramey held
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that famous press conference
to set the record straight.
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- General Ramey is the one
who told the newsman
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it was nothing more than
a weather observation balloon.
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Of course, we both knew
differently.
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- The only reporter
in the room
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is J. Bond Johnson,
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and he's communicating
with the general,
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and he poses Marcel with it
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but apparently doesn't ask him
any questions,
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or if he does ask him
questions,
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Ramey would answer them.
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- He told me
not to say anything.
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He says, "I'll handle it
from now on,"
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and that's exactly
what he did.
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It was definitely not
a weather balloon.
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What it could have been,
I wouldn't know.
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Fishburne: Jesse Marcel's
grandchildren
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believe he was completely
blindsided
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by General Ramey's
press conference.
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- I see my grandfather holding
up something that he knew
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that wasn't what he found.
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- He was adamant that this
was not what he saw
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in the debris field.
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Fishburne: The controversy
over what crashed near Roswell
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has made this photo the
subject of intense scrutiny.
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- You know what we ought to do
is take a look at the thing,
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give you an idea of exactly
what we're talking about
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so that you can see
what's been done.
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- Yeah, let's do that.
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- People have been looking
at this document
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for literally decades
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trying to determine
what this memo says.
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The problem
with the Ramey memo
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is it's taken
at a slight angle.
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It's crunched in his hand,
so it's got some folds in it,
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so we're trying to interpret
the negative in such a way
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that we don't read into it
what we want to read into it.
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Right here by the thumb
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is the words
"Fort Worth, Texas."
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- At Fort Worth, Texas, yeah.
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- Very critical given the time
of the photograph.
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You move down here,
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toward the very end
of the--the memo,
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toward the very end
and to the right side,
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you can see it says
"weather balloons"...
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- Oh, yeah. Look at that.
- As well.
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- You really can.
Weather--weather balloons.
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- So that gives us an idea
what the document is about.
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It's not the laundry list.
It's not a grocery list.
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It has to do with what's
going on there in Roswell.
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The other thing that is
important is right down here,
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we have one word.
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Now, if we can determine
what that word is,
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that might tell us something.
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If it's Ramey, then this is
a document that was prepared
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by General Ramey,
and that provides us
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with a little bit
of information about it.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Some people
interpret it as "Temple."
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Oddly, Temple was a codename
of J. Edgar Hoover.
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- No case ever ends
for the Federal Bureau
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of Investigation
until it is solved
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and closed with
the conviction of the guilty
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or the acquittal
of the innocent.
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Fishburne: It would not
be surprising
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if the memo referred
to J. Edgar Hoover,
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the legendary 37-year director
of the FBI.
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- No clue, no matter
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how seemingly unimportant,
can be overlooked.
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Fishburne: He'd been pushing
for the FBI to have access
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to the Army's
investigation of Roswell
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but had been turned down.
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In a note dated July 15, 1947,
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just days after the crash,
Hoover contemplated the idea
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of creating a special FBI unit
to investigate UFOs.
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"I would consider it,"
Hoover wrote, adding that,
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"We must insist on full access
to the disc recovered."
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- But the important
part of this
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is this sentence right here.
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It could be
"victims of the wreck."
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"Victims" take us in one
direction, suggest something.
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Could be "viewing of
the wreck," totally different.
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If there's victims,
that implies a flight crew,
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and a flight crew
implies an alien spacecraft
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because there's no flight crew
in a weather balloon.
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- The previous press release
put out the day before
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didn't mention anything
about victims.
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- If this document says
"victims of the wreck,"
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it negates an awful lot
of the skeptical arguments
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about the Roswell case.
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- I think there's some new
technology we can bring
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to get down
to the micron level
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and really bring out the text
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to decipher
the meaning of the memo.
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- Anything like that
would be great
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because what we need to know
is what it says.
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[suspenseful music]
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Fishburne: The photo archive
at the University of Texas
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at Arlington
holds 4.5 million negatives,
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most of which are stored
at 38 degrees Fahrenheit
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to prevent them
from deteriorating.
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- So why does the Ramey
photo negative
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need to be stored
in cold conditions?
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- It's in that very
vulnerable time period
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from the 1930s
to the 1950s or so.
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Those acetate negatives
in particular,
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stored in regular
room temperatures,
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will deteriorate.
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All right.
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♪ ♪
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Here it is. Okay.
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It has--it's identified as
Brigadier General Roger Ramey,
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left,
and Colonel Thomas J. Dubose
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looking over the wind
forecasting device.
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- Wind forecasting, aha.
- Yes, yes.
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There are also pictures
of weather balloons
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that are included
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in this series of negatives...
- Right.
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- Because that's what
they were saying it was.
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- Fascinating.
- Yeah.
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- Wow.
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So the memo is just,
what, 1/4 of an inch long?
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- Abo that, and it's folded,
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so you can't see
the whole thing.
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- Yeah. I'd like to actually
bring in some analysts
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with some new technology
called GIGAmacro photography.
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- Sure.
- Using a microscope
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to actually look at
the sublevels of the negative.
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Fishburne: It will be the most
powerful microscope
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ever used to read
the words in the memo,
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and if Ben Smith can bring
into focus the word "victims,"
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it could expose
one of the greatest
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cover-ups in history.
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♪ ♪
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Coming up...
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- My grandfather went out,
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and when he got there,
he saw the spaceship.
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- It was much more than just
debris and strange wreckage.
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There were also remains.
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There were also bodies.
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Fishburne: Was this
the military secret
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that forced Jesse Marcel
into silence?
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- Someone might choose him
because he was
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the fall guy for the incident.
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♪ ♪
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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Fishburne: Ben Smith has
gotten exclusive permission
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from the University of Texas
photo archive
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to analyze the negative
of a 70-year-old image.
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It was snapped at the Army
press conference
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where Jesse Marcel
said he was forced
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to go along with a cover story
that a weather balloon,
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not a flying saucer,
crashed near Roswell.
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- General Ramey is the one
who told the newsman
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it was nothing more than
a weather observation balloon.
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Of course, we both knew
differently.
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- How's it going?
- Good.
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Fishburne: Smith has traveled
here with Gene Cooper,
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an expert operator
of the GIGAmacro,
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a powerful microscope
that will be used
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to try to read the blurry memo
in General Roger Ramey's hand.
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- This Ramey photo
is a piece of history
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that you won't find
anywhere else.
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I'm excited I get to see it
with my own eyes.
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I don't get to touch it,
but I do get to use
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the latest technology
to peer into it
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at the molecular level
to see if we can decipher
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whatever message
is in that memo.
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[suspenseful music]
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My goal is to read the memo
in General Ramey's hands.
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This will spark
a lot of controversy,
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but if we can figure out
what it says,
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we can perhaps solve
the Roswell mystery.
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- So what we're gonna do
is we're gonna get down
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into the grains
of the emulsion.
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We're gonna go up to 80,000 DPI
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with the camera system
that we have here.
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♪ ♪
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It's gonna take a series
of focal stacks,
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which is bringing all those
depths of field into view.
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We're gonna merge
all those together.
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We're gonna then do it over
the entire area of that memo
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and then see what we find.
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- And nobody's done it
to this photo yet.
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No--
- No.
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I believe
that the last scan,
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done in 2015,
was around 1,000 DPI,
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and what we'll be doing today
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is in the neighborhood
of 60,000 to 80,000 DPI.
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- Wow. Wow.
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So we really might
be able to read this thing.
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- That's what we're hopeful of,
and I'm excited
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to get in there
and see what we can find.
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- Oh, yeah.
This is gonna be great.
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Fishburne: To try and read
the memo,
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Gene Cooper will focus in
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on hundreds of micro images
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and then begin
the painstaking job
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of stitching them together
into a mosaic.
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♪ ♪
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While Cooper works, Ben Smith
travels back to Roswell
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to follow up
on an intriguing lead.
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- Is there any other
information to help me
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in my investigation to get
to that ground-level truth?
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Fishburne: Local residents
have been reluctant
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to give Smith
the names of acquaintances
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that claim to know more
details of the Roswell story
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than Jesse Marcel
ever divulged publicly.
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- Why the hesitancy to share
with me his name?
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- It's privacy.
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We're still protecting
the people that--
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who have been most affected.
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- When the government says you
don't talk about something,
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you didn't talk about it.
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♪ ♪
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Fishburne: Smith has located
Barbara Duggar,
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granddaughter
of Sheriff George Wilcox,
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the man who first alerted
the military
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that some strange wreckage
had been found in the field.
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- Sheriff Wilcox is the fourth
person in that inner ring
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of witnesses
with firsthand knowledge
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of what was on
that debris field.
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♪ ♪
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Fishburne: Wilcox got to see
the debris himself
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when rancher Mac Brazel
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brought some
to the sheriff's office.
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Smith wants to find out
what else
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Wilcox might have
told his family.
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♪ ♪
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- If you could, I'd like
to hear about your connection
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to Sheriff George Wilcox.
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- I am Inez Wilcox and George
Wilcox's granddaughter.
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My grandfather, George Wilcox,
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was a very kind
and loving man.
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He tried to help the people
that didn't have anything
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'cause, you know, Roswell
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at that time
wasn't a real prosperous city.
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- And when did you first hear
about his connection
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to the events of July 1947?
422
00:18:03,433 --> 00:18:07,600
- In 1969, I was
at my grandmother's house,
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Inez Wilcox,
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and it was the same day that
they had landed on the moon,
425
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and that's when my grandmother
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told me about
the Roswell incident.
427
00:18:17,467 --> 00:18:19,333
- And what did she say?
428
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- My grandmother got up
from her seat,
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and she closed the door.
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She locked it,
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she put the blinds down,
and I looked at her,
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and that was not her behavior.
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She was very positive,
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very beautiful and wonderful,
and she said,
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"I have something
that I must tell you,
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"and you must promise me
that you will never,
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"ever, ever tell this story
to anyone.
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If you do,
we will all be killed,"
439
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and she started
telling the story
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to my sister Phyllis and I.
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[tense music]
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Fishburne: According
to Barbara Duggar,
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when her grandfather
got to the crash site,
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it was already surrounded
by the military,
445
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,333
and they weren't happy
to see him.
446
00:19:04,467 --> 00:19:08,400
- My grandfather went out
to see what had happened.
447
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When he got there,
he saw the spaceship.
448
00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:15,133
The flying saucer had crashed
outside of Roswell.
449
00:19:15,266 --> 00:19:17,667
There were aliens.
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And then she talked
about the aliens
451
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and how they were dressed.
452
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Yes.
- How--how were they dressed?
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- Well, they had on
a silk suit,
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and they had the big eyes.
455
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She said there were
little people walking around,
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and there were some dead
and some alive.
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♪ ♪
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I mean, I just sat there
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and leaned back in my chair
and thought...
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Fishburne: Barbara Duggar
believed,
461
00:19:42,533 --> 00:19:45,033
even more than
the spaceship debris,
462
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it was the arrival of aliens
on Earth
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that the military wanted
to keep secret.
464
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- Then the military came
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and told him
to go back to the office
466
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because there would be
a lot of interviewing.
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♪ ♪
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They surrounded
the courthouse.
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They came in.
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They roughed George Wilcox up
in front of Big Mom,
471
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and she said a redheaded
colonel came into the office
472
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and told Granddaddy--
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got him and told him,
in no uncertain terms,
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if they told the story
of the Roswell incident,
475
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that their family
would be killed
476
00:20:22,967 --> 00:20:24,500
and all their grandchildren.
477
00:20:24,633 --> 00:20:26,333
I mean, they threatened him,
478
00:20:26,467 --> 00:20:31,000
and I said to her, I said,
"You really believe, Big Mom,
479
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that the military is going
to come and kill all of us?"
480
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And she said,
"Yes, and they will."
481
00:20:37,367 --> 00:20:39,367
- It sounds like it really
affected your grandmother.
482
00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:40,567
- Yes.
483
00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:43,500
She knew that they meant
business.
484
00:20:43,633 --> 00:20:46,800
My grandmother, Inez Wilcox,
and George Wilcox
485
00:20:46,934 --> 00:20:49,400
had been harassed,
486
00:20:49,533 --> 00:20:52,333
they had been threatened,
487
00:20:52,467 --> 00:20:54,967
and their lives
had been changed.
488
00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,467
My grandfather went crazy,
489
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,800
and my grandmother had to go
through a lot of hell
490
00:20:59,934 --> 00:21:01,567
because of that.
491
00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:06,233
- How do you connect your
grandfather's mental illness
492
00:21:06,367 --> 00:21:07,600
to the events of Roswell?
493
00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:09,800
What leads you
to this conclusion?
494
00:21:09,934 --> 00:21:12,400
- My grandfather
was perfectly normal.
495
00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:14,867
He wouldn't have been sheriff
of Roswell if he weren't.
496
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,867
- Right. He was well-respected
from what I've read.
497
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:23,467
- And after that, he was not
normal ever again, ever again,
498
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,066
and if somebody from
the government doesn't like it,
499
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,266
well, that's just too dang bad.
500
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,433
♪ ♪
501
00:21:29,567 --> 00:21:30,900
It is real.
502
00:21:31,033 --> 00:21:33,633
The Roswell incident is real.
503
00:21:33,767 --> 00:21:35,033
♪ ♪
504
00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:36,867
- It's a powerful story.
- Thank you, Ben.
505
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,033
- And I will weigh it with
the rest of my investigation,
506
00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:42,266
and hopefully
we can get to truth.
507
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,567
- People in America
and the world need to know
508
00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,600
that the Roswell incident
is real
509
00:21:49,734 --> 00:21:51,867
and the government
can't say it's not true.
510
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,633
"It's an air balloon.
It's a weather balloon."
511
00:21:54,767 --> 00:21:57,133
It isn't. It was real.
512
00:21:57,266 --> 00:21:58,300
Fishburne: Coming up...
513
00:21:58,433 --> 00:22:00,367
- 40 miles north of Roswell.
514
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:03,166
That was the drum beat
we were hearing for years.
515
00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,667
Fishburne: Ben Smith travels
to a new location
516
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,200
where some claim
they saw incredible things
517
00:22:08,333 --> 00:22:10,867
that the government
decided to conceal.
518
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,834
- One body was shriveled up
against the wall,
519
00:22:13,967 --> 00:22:15,500
and when we got in close,
we noticed that
520
00:22:15,633 --> 00:22:19,200
there were three others
inside the craft.
521
00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:23,266
♪ ♪
522
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:29,934
[dramatic music]
523
00:22:30,066 --> 00:22:31,867
♪ ♪
524
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,800
[tense music]
525
00:22:34,934 --> 00:22:36,467
♪ ♪
526
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,734
- So we are on our way
to the second debris site.
527
00:22:40,867 --> 00:22:42,700
- What we call the impact site.
528
00:22:42,834 --> 00:22:44,533
- The impact site.
- Yes.
529
00:22:44,667 --> 00:22:46,033
Fishburne: After meeting
with the granddaughter
530
00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:47,567
of a key eyewitness...
531
00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:51,734
- When he got there,
he saw the spaceship.
532
00:22:51,867 --> 00:22:54,133
Fishburne: Ben Smith wants
to find physical evidence
533
00:22:54,266 --> 00:22:55,767
from the crash in Roswell,
534
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,233
so he's linking up
with UFO researcher
535
00:22:58,367 --> 00:23:00,433
and author Don Schmitt,
536
00:23:00,567 --> 00:23:03,100
who claims to have interviewed
600 eyewitnesses
537
00:23:03,233 --> 00:23:05,333
connected to the event.
538
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,633
- So who are our
primary witnesses
539
00:23:07,767 --> 00:23:10,700
that identified this site?
540
00:23:10,834 --> 00:23:15,300
- Initially it was the family
of Sheriff Wilcox
541
00:23:15,433 --> 00:23:19,266
when they were describing
his coming out north of town.
542
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,700
Fishburne: It was Schmitt
who first took Ben Smith
543
00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:26,433
to the debris field
west of Roswell,
544
00:23:26,567 --> 00:23:28,300
the site
where Major Jesse Marcel
545
00:23:28,433 --> 00:23:31,166
collected pieces
of what he saw.
546
00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:36,333
♪ ♪
547
00:23:36,467 --> 00:23:39,934
- This is where it all began
back in 1947.
548
00:23:40,066 --> 00:23:41,367
Fishburne: But today
they are on their way
549
00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,033
to a different location
550
00:23:43,166 --> 00:23:45,100
referred to
as the impact site,
551
00:23:45,233 --> 00:23:48,433
which is north of Roswell.
552
00:23:48,567 --> 00:23:50,700
- "40 miles,
40 miles north of Roswell,"
553
00:23:50,834 --> 00:23:54,033
that was the drum beat
we were hearing for years.
554
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,700
Fishburne: Schmitt believes
that a spacecraft
555
00:23:55,834 --> 00:23:57,800
initially hit the ground
at the debris field,
556
00:23:57,934 --> 00:23:59,633
where pieces broke off,
557
00:23:59,767 --> 00:24:03,533
but then it skipped 25 miles
to this impact site,
558
00:24:03,667 --> 00:24:05,900
where it finally came to rest.
559
00:24:06,033 --> 00:24:07,567
- They had the much
more spectacular,
560
00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,166
the much more sensitive
impact site
561
00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:11,934
just north of town,
562
00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:16,033
and this is where it was
much more than just debris
563
00:24:16,166 --> 00:24:17,600
and strange wreckage.
564
00:24:17,734 --> 00:24:19,100
There were also remains.
565
00:24:19,233 --> 00:24:20,567
There were also bodies.
566
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,700
♪ ♪
567
00:24:22,834 --> 00:24:25,000
Fishburne: The third member
of the team is Frank Kimbler,
568
00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:26,667
a veteran geologist
569
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,900
based at the New Mexico
Military Institute.
570
00:24:29,033 --> 00:24:31,834
- Well, I've been wanting to go
out to this final impact site
571
00:24:31,967 --> 00:24:33,934
for a couple of years.
572
00:24:34,066 --> 00:24:35,433
Fishburne: Kimbler has combed
every inch
573
00:24:35,567 --> 00:24:36,934
of the debris field,
574
00:24:37,066 --> 00:24:38,934
searching for pieces
of wreckage,
575
00:24:39,066 --> 00:24:42,667
but this is his first visit
to the alleged impact site.
576
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,767
- I like science fiction,
but I also like science fact.
577
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,734
I actually lived here
for six months in Roswell
578
00:24:47,867 --> 00:24:49,500
before I even visited
the UFO museum.
579
00:24:49,633 --> 00:24:51,367
Then I went down
to the museum,
580
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,100
and I said, "You know what?
There's no physical evidence,"
581
00:24:54,233 --> 00:24:57,000
and that was
the whole gist behind this.
582
00:24:57,133 --> 00:24:58,667
Fishburne: If Kimbler
can find traces
583
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,467
that a spaceship crashed here,
584
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,433
it would mean Jesse Marcel
was right about
585
00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:05,500
the source of the wreckage
at the debris field.
586
00:25:05,633 --> 00:25:07,400
♪ ♪
587
00:25:07,533 --> 00:25:10,100
- I'm excited about this site
because it feels fresh.
588
00:25:10,233 --> 00:25:13,333
It's on private property.
It's not known to the public.
589
00:25:13,467 --> 00:25:16,333
It's not marked
on any tourist map.
590
00:25:16,467 --> 00:25:19,300
It's been protected
all this time.
591
00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:21,000
- The debris field
was always conceded.
592
00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:22,900
That was the one thing
593
00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:26,166
that even the press release
was based on.
594
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:28,133
Mac Brazel,
595
00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:30,233
the strangeness of the debris,
596
00:25:30,367 --> 00:25:31,734
the unusual characteristics,
597
00:25:31,867 --> 00:25:34,767
the qualities
of that wreckage.
598
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:36,834
- They've got the debris field.
599
00:25:36,967 --> 00:25:38,100
It's scattered debris.
600
00:25:38,233 --> 00:25:39,734
It's clearly, to them,
601
00:25:39,867 --> 00:25:42,133
something that's not
terrestrially oriented.
602
00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:44,333
They don't know
where it's from,
603
00:25:44,467 --> 00:25:46,400
but they're looking
for something else,
604
00:25:46,533 --> 00:25:48,667
and it was on
one of those flights
605
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,166
that they found
the rest of the wreckage.
606
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,500
[unsettling music]
607
00:25:53,633 --> 00:25:57,633
- At the very time
that the rancher, Mac Brazel,
608
00:25:57,767 --> 00:26:00,867
has led Major Jesse Marcel,
609
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,567
as well as
Captain Sheridan Cavitt,
610
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,734
back to the debris field,
611
00:26:05,867 --> 00:26:09,200
so while they are
investigating that location,
612
00:26:09,333 --> 00:26:10,700
the debris field,
613
00:26:10,834 --> 00:26:15,233
the military is alerted
to the additional site
614
00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:18,166
just 40 miles north of town,
615
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:22,233
which we would learn
was the impact site,
616
00:26:22,367 --> 00:26:25,867
the remains of the craft
and the bodies recovered.
617
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,900
♪ ♪
618
00:26:28,033 --> 00:26:31,500
- Don, you know that story
about the McKnights going over
619
00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:35,033
to the Ball family ranch
before the military came out...
620
00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:37,467
- Yes, yes.
- And basically said,
621
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,834
"Hey, do you want to come over
and see the little people?"
622
00:26:39,967 --> 00:26:42,233
- Right.
That was the talk back then.
623
00:26:42,367 --> 00:26:44,000
"The little people."
- Little people. Yeah.
624
00:26:44,133 --> 00:26:46,834
- The little people,
the little men.
625
00:26:46,967 --> 00:26:49,700
Fishburne: According
to the alleged eyewitnesses,
626
00:26:49,834 --> 00:26:51,133
several members
of the alien crew
627
00:26:51,266 --> 00:26:54,000
were badly injured or dead.
628
00:26:54,133 --> 00:26:55,500
- Would this have been
before they made
629
00:26:55,633 --> 00:26:57,000
the press release or after?
630
00:26:57,133 --> 00:26:58,567
- Before.
- Yeah.
631
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:59,867
- Because given the crash
happened--
632
00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:03,967
this was the late evening
of July 2nd,
633
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:10,433
so there's a full four to five
days before the military
634
00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:14,100
actually is able
to seal off the areas,
635
00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:17,967
come in and conduct
the recovery operation.
636
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,200
[dramatic music]
637
00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:22,033
Fishburne: The story of a man
named Frank Kaufmann
638
00:27:22,166 --> 00:27:24,033
has never been verified.
639
00:27:24,166 --> 00:27:27,300
He claims he was a civilian
attached to a military unit
640
00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:29,100
assigned
to recover alien bodies
641
00:27:29,233 --> 00:27:31,467
and the spaceship
at the impact site.
642
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,633
♪ ♪
643
00:27:33,767 --> 00:27:36,934
Kaufmann gave this interview
in 1995.
644
00:27:37,066 --> 00:27:39,033
♪ ♪
645
00:27:39,166 --> 00:27:43,367
- There was a lot of erratic
movement on the radar screen.
646
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,100
♪ ♪
647
00:27:46,233 --> 00:27:49,900
Then all of a sudden
there was kind of a flash,
648
00:27:50,033 --> 00:27:52,200
and it just disappeared.
649
00:27:52,333 --> 00:27:55,900
Something just went down.
650
00:27:56,033 --> 00:27:58,066
Fishburne: After spotting
an unidentified aircraft,
651
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,567
they headed to the location
652
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:02,600
where it had disappeared
from radar.
653
00:28:02,734 --> 00:28:06,600
- We got to where it was,
654
00:28:06,734 --> 00:28:09,333
and we learned right then
and there it wasn't a plane.
655
00:28:09,467 --> 00:28:10,700
It wasn't a missile.
656
00:28:10,834 --> 00:28:14,433
It was kind of
a strange-looking craft,
657
00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:18,600
and it was open and--
kind of halfway.
658
00:28:18,734 --> 00:28:23,166
- Witnesses not only observing
the egg-shaped craft
659
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:26,266
about the size
of a Volkswagen Beetle,
660
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,133
seeing a number of bodies.
661
00:28:29,266 --> 00:28:32,600
- One body was shriveled up
against the wall.
662
00:28:32,734 --> 00:28:38,533
The other one was--was half in
and half out of the craft,
663
00:28:38,667 --> 00:28:40,633
and when we got in close,
we noticed
664
00:28:40,767 --> 00:28:43,867
that there were about
three others inside the craft.
665
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,934
Fishburne: According
to Kaufmann's story,
666
00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:47,700
the convoy loaded up the ship
667
00:28:47,834 --> 00:28:49,767
and the alien bodies
into trucks
668
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,367
and headed back
to the same base
669
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,500
where Jesse Marcel
had brought his debris.
670
00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:55,934
♪ ♪
671
00:28:56,066 --> 00:28:57,867
Coming up, Ben Smith
672
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,967
finds clues
that support witnesses
673
00:29:00,166 --> 00:29:02,100
who claim that this is
the site where the mysterious
674
00:29:02,233 --> 00:29:05,033
Roswell UFO
made its final impact.
675
00:29:05,166 --> 00:29:06,233
- Oh, look at this.
676
00:29:06,367 --> 00:29:10,266
♪ ♪
677
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,834
[dramatic music]
678
00:29:16,967 --> 00:29:18,600
♪ ♪
679
00:29:18,734 --> 00:29:21,500
[tense music]
680
00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:24,700
♪ ♪
681
00:29:24,834 --> 00:29:29,533
- If there was the remains
of a craft and bodies,
682
00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:32,100
where would that be located?
683
00:29:32,233 --> 00:29:34,333
Fishburne: If a flying saucer
with alien bodies
684
00:29:34,467 --> 00:29:36,633
was recovered at Roswell,
Ben Smith
685
00:29:36,767 --> 00:29:39,367
hopes that there still
could be evidence at the site
686
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,300
where the object
might have come to rest.
687
00:29:42,433 --> 00:29:43,467
- The search
for the Holy Grail,
688
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,500
as we would call it,
continues.
689
00:29:44,633 --> 00:29:46,367
- Yeah.
690
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:48,367
Fishburne: The debris field
is where Jesse Marcel
691
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:50,467
found pieces of wreckage,
but according to Don Schmitt,
692
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,333
it is not where the object
finally came to rest.
693
00:29:53,467 --> 00:29:55,333
He believes it hit
the debris field
694
00:29:55,467 --> 00:29:57,834
and skipped like a rock
to land
695
00:29:57,967 --> 00:30:00,166
at what he calls
the final impact site.
696
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,133
- It's the only wooden windmill
on this ranch,
697
00:30:03,266 --> 00:30:05,700
40 miles north of Roswell.
698
00:30:05,834 --> 00:30:08,033
Fishburne: Schmitt says
eyewitnesses remembered
699
00:30:08,166 --> 00:30:09,667
certain landmarks here,
700
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,834
including a windmill
and a water tank.
701
00:30:12,967 --> 00:30:14,133
- Piece of the windmill.
702
00:30:14,266 --> 00:30:15,333
- Piece of the original
windmill.
703
00:30:15,467 --> 00:30:16,500
- Holy cow.
- There it is.
704
00:30:16,633 --> 00:30:18,100
- Wow.
705
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:19,300
I mean, this thing
is a historical relic now.
706
00:30:19,433 --> 00:30:21,934
- And we can see...
it is a relic.
707
00:30:22,066 --> 00:30:22,967
- Yeah.
- I mean, you see
708
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:25,000
by the condition of the wood,
709
00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:27,133
and that was
the one crucial element
710
00:30:27,266 --> 00:30:29,600
in the description
of the witnesses,
711
00:30:29,734 --> 00:30:31,600
that it was a wooden windmill.
712
00:30:31,734 --> 00:30:34,467
- How tall would that windmill
have been, you think?
713
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,000
- 15 feet.
- Okay.
714
00:30:36,133 --> 00:30:37,934
- So it wasn't where you
would think, you know,
715
00:30:38,066 --> 00:30:40,166
a towering structure,
716
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:42,500
because as you see what--
the prevailing wind,
717
00:30:42,633 --> 00:30:45,166
it didn't take much
to keep those blades going.
718
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:48,266
♪ ♪
719
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,867
You see the empty bed
720
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,633
where the metal water tank
existed back in 1947,
721
00:30:55,767 --> 00:30:57,367
so you see,
by its circumference...
722
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,834
- Yeah. Yep.
- It was about 8 feet high,
723
00:30:59,967 --> 00:31:01,834
as it was when we were
first out here.
724
00:31:01,967 --> 00:31:04,100
- As I look around,
I see the Capitan Mountains,
725
00:31:04,233 --> 00:31:06,667
the same mountains we could
see from the debris site
726
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,333
that Mac Brazel identified.
727
00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:10,400
So coming about 25 miles
728
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:13,867
from that direction parallel
to the Capitans almost,
729
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,233
coming towards Roswell.
730
00:31:15,367 --> 00:31:16,900
- Yes.
- Okay.
731
00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:19,767
So if we have the windmill
right here--
732
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:23,100
so let's walk back towards
the Brazel debris site
733
00:31:23,233 --> 00:31:27,233
100 feet, and we'll set you up
to begin your survey.
734
00:31:27,367 --> 00:31:28,333
- That'll work.
- All right.
735
00:31:28,467 --> 00:31:29,900
Sounds good.
- Yeah.
736
00:31:30,033 --> 00:31:32,066
- I can't wait to take out
a metal detector
737
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,333
and see if we can find
something out here.
738
00:31:33,467 --> 00:31:35,033
It would be great.
739
00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:37,266
Fishburne: For Kimbler,
this is virgin ground.
740
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,100
He has never
explored it before.
741
00:31:39,233 --> 00:31:41,567
It's a fresh chance
to uncover evidence.
742
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:43,900
[soft beeping]
743
00:31:44,033 --> 00:31:47,500
♪ ♪
744
00:31:47,633 --> 00:31:50,700
- Well, I don't know.
Piece of old wire.
745
00:31:50,834 --> 00:31:52,100
- See, that's the thing
about this.
746
00:31:52,233 --> 00:31:54,233
I think we're too close
to the windmill,
747
00:31:54,367 --> 00:31:56,667
and we're gonna end up
with a lot of--
748
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,166
we're gonna end up
with a lot of trash on the--
749
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:01,166
in that general vicinity.
750
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:02,734
If you've got the evidence,
751
00:32:02,867 --> 00:32:05,166
if you have a piece
of a UFO in your hand,
752
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,333
and you can prove that it's
of extraterrestrial origin,
753
00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:09,000
it's history making.
754
00:32:09,133 --> 00:32:11,233
That is a quest like
looking for the Holy Grail.
755
00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:13,166
Oh, look at this.
756
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:14,667
That was right on the surface.
757
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,667
I wonder if that's it.
758
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,500
That's a bullet casing,
759
00:32:17,633 --> 00:32:20,233
and that's a--that's
a high-powered one too.
760
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:25,100
Fishburne: Today,
Kimbler is looking
761
00:32:25,233 --> 00:32:27,233
for metallic debris.
762
00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:29,233
Alleged eyewitnesses say
763
00:32:29,367 --> 00:32:31,266
that when the military first
came to this site,
764
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,333
they tried to clean up
any evidence of what crashed.
765
00:32:34,467 --> 00:32:36,100
[soft beeping]
766
00:32:36,233 --> 00:32:38,066
- You find something?
- Yeah.
767
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,667
We need to dig this one up.
768
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,467
So it's right there.
769
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,100
Right there.
X marks the spot.
770
00:32:46,233 --> 00:32:47,633
- Deeper than I thought
it'd be.
771
00:32:47,767 --> 00:32:49,333
[soft beeping]
772
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:50,900
♪ ♪
773
00:32:51,033 --> 00:32:53,600
Oh, here we go.
- Did you find it?
774
00:32:53,734 --> 00:32:54,800
- What's that?
775
00:32:54,934 --> 00:32:57,667
♪ ♪
776
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,667
It's a little sharp.
777
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,333
Feels--looks corroded.
778
00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:02,166
- It's--I don't know
what that is.
779
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800
It's heavy.
- It is a little green,
780
00:33:05,934 --> 00:33:07,400
so maybe
a little copper in there.
781
00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:09,033
- Copper, it's been buried
for a little while.
782
00:33:09,166 --> 00:33:12,400
Let's just bag it up.
So mark the waypoint.
783
00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:14,033
Now we got the exact location.
784
00:33:14,166 --> 00:33:16,133
We can plot this
on Google Earth.
785
00:33:16,266 --> 00:33:17,700
- Uh-huh.
- We'll know exactly
786
00:33:17,834 --> 00:33:20,033
where we are
and where the piece was found.
787
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,800
♪ ♪
788
00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:26,133
- Had this site not existed,
if witnesses had not described
789
00:33:26,266 --> 00:33:29,533
this location
with bodies and a spaceship,
790
00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:31,567
then we might not have
the Roswell conspiracy
791
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:33,567
that exists today.
792
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:35,333
I don't know what to make
of it just yet,
793
00:33:35,467 --> 00:33:36,900
but there are
supporting details
794
00:33:37,033 --> 00:33:41,000
that suggest something
bigger happened here.
795
00:33:41,133 --> 00:33:43,667
Fishburne: Ben Smith will have
this piece of metal tested
796
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,867
to see if it could be a bullet
casing from the 1940s
797
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,734
or possibly
a kind of material
798
00:33:49,867 --> 00:33:52,467
mankind hadn't yet
manufactured.
799
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,333
♪ ♪
800
00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:56,834
Meanwhile, progress
has been made
801
00:33:56,967 --> 00:33:58,967
on another important test.
802
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,533
At the University of Texas,
803
00:34:01,667 --> 00:34:04,767
Gene Cooper has been taking
history's closest look
804
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:06,734
at the negative
from the famous photo
805
00:34:06,867 --> 00:34:11,467
using a GIGAmacro microscope
to focus on the memo held
806
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,934
by General Roger Ramey.
807
00:34:15,066 --> 00:34:17,633
♪ ♪
808
00:34:17,767 --> 00:34:19,867
- Gentlemen.
809
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,900
Hey.
- Hey.
810
00:34:21,033 --> 00:34:22,300
- Hello.
- How's it going?
811
00:34:22,433 --> 00:34:24,300
- Good.
- How's the analysis going?
812
00:34:24,433 --> 00:34:27,133
- We've been busy here.
813
00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:28,734
Fishburne: Gene Cooper's goal
is to create
814
00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:31,300
the most high-resolution
image possible.
815
00:34:31,433 --> 00:34:33,633
The GIGAmacro's lens
is so powerful,
816
00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:35,600
it can capture the grains
of a negative
817
00:34:35,734 --> 00:34:38,266
at 80,000 dots
per square inch.
818
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,400
♪ ♪
819
00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:43,033
- We shot probably around
3,000,
820
00:34:43,166 --> 00:34:44,800
4,000 images total.
- Wow.
821
00:34:44,934 --> 00:34:47,734
- It's a combination
of focal stacking
822
00:34:47,867 --> 00:34:51,433
and then image mosaic stitching
to put it all together.
823
00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:52,900
♪ ♪
824
00:34:53,033 --> 00:34:54,967
- Nobody's ever
tried this before.
825
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:57,133
We will have created
the clearest resolution
826
00:34:57,266 --> 00:34:59,300
in the history
of this iconic photo.
827
00:34:59,433 --> 00:35:01,633
The question is,
will we be able to read it?
828
00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,033
And will we find
the smoking gun
829
00:35:03,166 --> 00:35:05,533
that proves
the eyewitnesses right?
830
00:35:07,133 --> 00:35:09,533
- So in this case,
we're looking at the very top
831
00:35:09,667 --> 00:35:12,800
of the acetate base
of the negative.
832
00:35:12,934 --> 00:35:14,500
- Mm-hmm.
- And on there,
833
00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:16,133
you'll see different scratches
and different artifacts,
834
00:35:16,266 --> 00:35:18,834
so this one that's right next
to a key point,
835
00:35:18,967 --> 00:35:20,033
a letter there...
836
00:35:20,166 --> 00:35:21,600
- This little dot here?
837
00:35:21,734 --> 00:35:23,100
- That little dot there.
You can see it there.
838
00:35:23,233 --> 00:35:25,033
You'd normally see it
on a regular scan,
839
00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:27,033
but when I actually focus down
840
00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:29,033
into the negative,
it disappears.
841
00:35:29,166 --> 00:35:31,266
- Oh, perfect.
- And not by any, you know,
842
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,767
cloning or copying material
from one location to the other
843
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:37,100
or anything like that
digitally, purely optically.
844
00:35:37,233 --> 00:35:38,600
We can start enhancing it
845
00:35:38,734 --> 00:35:41,500
to bring out
and take a closer look
846
00:35:41,633 --> 00:35:46,266
at each of the individual
letters and phrases.
847
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,100
- The memo is one of the most
controversial parts
848
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:49,467
of the Roswell story.
849
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,000
A lot of ufologists believe
850
00:35:51,133 --> 00:35:53,333
that it contains
a reference to victims.
851
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:55,266
So the question is,
can the GIGAmacro
852
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,867
identify that word?
853
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,367
I mean, right away,
I notice our word "victims"
854
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:03,400
looks like it starts with a P.
855
00:36:03,533 --> 00:36:05,367
Is that--are you--
do you see that too?
856
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:07,200
- Yeah, I--
when he first brought it up,
857
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:10,667
I thought the word
became "pending."
858
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,834
Fishburne: This extraordinary
high-resolution version
859
00:36:12,967 --> 00:36:14,266
produced by the GIGAmacro
860
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,567
shows the photo
in greater detail
861
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:18,900
than anyone
has ever seen before.
862
00:36:19,033 --> 00:36:20,533
♪ ♪
863
00:36:20,667 --> 00:36:22,100
- What about, yeah,
the signature?
864
00:36:22,233 --> 00:36:23,767
Can we see the signature line?
865
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:25,900
- This is the signature line.
866
00:36:26,033 --> 00:36:33,266
- R-A-M-E-Y.
867
00:36:34,667 --> 00:36:37,233
- The Y is way separated
from the word.
868
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:38,734
- Could that be, like,
869
00:36:38,867 --> 00:36:40,333
a slight rise in the paper
or something,
870
00:36:40,467 --> 00:36:42,266
like an option illusion?
I don't know, like a...
871
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,533
- It could, in fact,
be an optical illusion,
872
00:36:45,667 --> 00:36:47,500
based on the way
the camera was held
873
00:36:47,633 --> 00:36:49,033
and the lens of the camera
874
00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:52,767
and the lighting conceals
things from us.
875
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:55,000
- Right, right.
876
00:36:55,133 --> 00:36:58,100
So do we have any samples
877
00:36:58,233 --> 00:37:01,967
of actual teletype
or fonts from the age?
878
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,166
- Yeah, we did look up--
there was a font case
879
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:05,734
that did match,
880
00:37:05,867 --> 00:37:07,467
and it actually looks
something like this.
881
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,667
- Actually, that's really
fascinating because
882
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,633
I, for some reason in my mind,
883
00:37:11,767 --> 00:37:14,333
expected the letters
to be of varying widths
884
00:37:14,467 --> 00:37:18,600
and sizes a bit like
they are in modern fonts.
885
00:37:18,734 --> 00:37:21,967
So go back to
that Ramey photo.
886
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,133
Yeah, the uniform size
of each letter
887
00:37:24,266 --> 00:37:28,934
really makes for more
possibilities, actually.
888
00:37:29,066 --> 00:37:30,600
We're getting closer now
to clarity.
889
00:37:30,734 --> 00:37:33,567
We can start to feel,
but it still feels fuzzy,
890
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:35,800
like we're groping
for the answer that we want.
891
00:37:35,934 --> 00:37:38,734
- Is this about as far as you
can go with magnification
892
00:37:38,867 --> 00:37:40,767
without just losing everything?
893
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,133
- You are, at this point,
seeing the grains
894
00:37:43,266 --> 00:37:45,834
of the emulsion layer
of the silver halides,
895
00:37:45,967 --> 00:37:48,734
and there's nothing
more to see beyond that.
896
00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:51,400
- I was a little disappointed
there wasn't perfect clarity
897
00:37:51,533 --> 00:37:55,000
in that image,
but using those new details,
898
00:37:55,133 --> 00:37:58,800
I think there's enough there
to continue pushing forward
899
00:37:58,934 --> 00:38:01,400
to identify the different
letters in that memo.
900
00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:04,133
Fishburne: They have come
closer than anyone ever has
901
00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:07,200
to reading the words
in the infamous Ramey memo,
902
00:38:07,333 --> 00:38:09,800
but if it does say
"victims in the wreck,"
903
00:38:09,934 --> 00:38:13,300
Ben Smith will have to find
another way to prove it.
904
00:38:13,433 --> 00:38:14,667
Coming up...
905
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,000
- Think motive too.
906
00:38:16,133 --> 00:38:18,467
Who would give that to him?
907
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,233
Fishburne: Does the journal
contain the story
908
00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:22,333
the government
was trying to hide?
909
00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:23,734
- To a cryptographer,
910
00:38:23,867 --> 00:38:25,633
this indicates
a certain kind of cipher.
911
00:38:25,767 --> 00:38:28,066
- It does?
- Yes.
912
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,300
♪ ♪
913
00:38:35,834 --> 00:38:38,667
[dramatic music]
914
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,600
♪ ♪
915
00:38:40,734 --> 00:38:43,533
[tense music]
916
00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:45,533
♪ ♪
917
00:38:45,667 --> 00:38:49,033
Fishburne: Ben Smith believes
Jesse Marcel knew far more
918
00:38:49,166 --> 00:38:50,934
than he ever
admitted in public.
919
00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:53,467
- I was familiar with all
materials used in aircraft.
920
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,166
This was nothing like that.
921
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:56,834
Fishburne: As an intelligence
officer,
922
00:38:56,967 --> 00:38:58,700
Marcel knew that
he was duty-bound
923
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:00,567
to keep classified secrets
for life.
924
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:01,600
♪ ♪
925
00:39:01,734 --> 00:39:03,400
- It's curious.
926
00:39:03,533 --> 00:39:06,066
Jesse said the wreckage
he found was extraterrestrial,
927
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,333
but if he thought
it was an alien spacecraft,
928
00:39:08,467 --> 00:39:10,667
why didn't he mention its crew?
929
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,166
Fishburne: Does the journal
930
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,066
Marcel kept close
his whole life
931
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,266
contain the rest of the story,
932
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,600
including details
of a cover-up?
933
00:39:19,734 --> 00:39:22,433
What Smith knows so far
is that Marcel
934
00:39:22,567 --> 00:39:24,767
didn't write it himself
and it is a jumble
935
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:28,433
of disconnected phrases
that might be code.
936
00:39:28,567 --> 00:39:30,266
- "When down in the mouth,
remember Jonah.
937
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,066
He came out all right."
938
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,700
If this journal is related
to the events of Roswell
939
00:39:35,834 --> 00:39:38,567
and you're writing it
to conceal your thoughts,
940
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:42,567
it's an interesting quote
to start off your code.
941
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:45,500
♪ ♪
942
00:39:45,633 --> 00:39:47,333
- How did it go out there?
943
00:39:47,467 --> 00:39:49,400
- It's been interesting.
944
00:39:49,533 --> 00:39:50,867
Fishburne: To discuss
how to push
945
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,533
the journal investigation
forward,
946
00:39:52,667 --> 00:39:55,333
Ben Smith is meeting
with Joe Pappalardo,
947
00:39:55,467 --> 00:39:58,233
an aviation expert and author
of "Spaceport Earth:
948
00:39:58,367 --> 00:40:01,000
The Reinvention
of Space Flight."
949
00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:05,066
Pappalardo is well-versed
in the Roswell story.
950
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,333
- I went to a former
Secret Service authenticator.
951
00:40:09,467 --> 00:40:11,400
- Uh-huh.
- She cut her teeth
952
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:15,066
tracking threats
from crazy people
953
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,567
and nefarious people.
954
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:18,200
- To link the letter
to the person writing it
955
00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:20,000
to build a criminal case or...
956
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:21,066
- Yeah, basically.
957
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,233
- That had to hold up in court,
958
00:40:22,367 --> 00:40:23,266
so she's the real deal.
959
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,233
- Yeah.
960
00:40:25,367 --> 00:40:27,367
- The first question
we started out with was,
961
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:29,367
"Is this an
authentic document?"
962
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,266
The paper itself dates
to prior to 1950.
963
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,767
- Okay.
964
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,266
- So she actually looked
at the ink,
965
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,567
which suggests that it was
written before there were
966
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:43,166
ballpoint pens,
so again, before 1950.
967
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,900
Another feature she identified
was this watermark.
968
00:40:47,033 --> 00:40:50,100
This watermark
belongs to a paper mill
969
00:40:50,233 --> 00:40:53,367
located in Juniata,
Pennsylvania, Juniata County,
970
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,033
which is actually
next to Harrisburg,
971
00:40:56,166 --> 00:40:58,033
where Jesse went
to intelligence school.
972
00:40:58,166 --> 00:41:01,133
Now, I don't know yet whether
that's just a coincidence,
973
00:41:01,266 --> 00:41:02,800
but it's pretty exciting
974
00:41:02,934 --> 00:41:04,800
that at least
the journal itself
975
00:41:04,934 --> 00:41:07,633
and the ink and the paper
are all legitimate.
976
00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:09,100
- No matter what else
this says--
977
00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:11,133
this journal could say
anything or nothing,
978
00:41:11,266 --> 00:41:13,133
but at this point, it has
told you something important,
979
00:41:13,266 --> 00:41:15,667
which is the Marcel family
is acting in good faith.
980
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,734
If you had found
that the paper and the ink
981
00:41:17,867 --> 00:41:19,500
didn't match chronologically,
982
00:41:19,633 --> 00:41:21,600
you'd have to doubt every
other part of this story,
983
00:41:21,734 --> 00:41:23,500
so this is the foundation
by which the rest
984
00:41:23,633 --> 00:41:26,967
of the investigation into this
piece of evidence is grounded.
985
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,066
- Yeah.
986
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,133
Now, the sample size
of Jesse's handwriting
987
00:41:31,266 --> 00:41:34,633
is actually pretty small,
but she felt fairly confident
988
00:41:34,767 --> 00:41:36,400
that the handwriting
in this journal
989
00:41:36,533 --> 00:41:38,233
did not match Jesse Marcel's.
990
00:41:38,367 --> 00:41:41,767
- Hmm.
That's even more intriguing.
991
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:43,300
If it's not his,
why did he keep it?
992
00:41:43,433 --> 00:41:45,600
♪ ♪
993
00:41:45,734 --> 00:41:49,467
Fishburne: Jesse Marcel stayed
silent for more than 30 years,
994
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,000
working as an ordinary
TV repairman
995
00:41:52,133 --> 00:41:56,567
in his hometown
of Houma, Louisiana.
996
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:00,867
- We left Roswell perhaps
around 3:30 or 4:00
997
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,033
in the afternoon.
998
00:42:02,166 --> 00:42:03,500
It is very difficult.
999
00:42:03,633 --> 00:42:06,200
In fact,
with just verbal directions,
1000
00:42:06,333 --> 00:42:07,900
we never would have found it.
1001
00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:10,233
Fishburne: In 1980,
he returned to Roswell
1002
00:42:10,367 --> 00:42:13,233
and gave that bombshell
TV interview
1003
00:42:13,367 --> 00:42:15,033
in which he claimed
before the world
1004
00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:16,800
that he'd been forced to lie
1005
00:42:16,934 --> 00:42:19,200
about what he'd found
in the debris field.
1006
00:42:19,333 --> 00:42:20,900
- I had never seen anything
like that before.
1007
00:42:21,033 --> 00:42:23,567
As of right--as of now,
I don't know what it was.
1008
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:25,500
Fishburne: After Marcel
went public,
1009
00:42:25,633 --> 00:42:28,633
several retired officers
from the 509th
1010
00:42:28,767 --> 00:42:31,200
spoke up to support his story
of a cover-up
1011
00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:33,900
and added
the extraordinary claim
1012
00:42:34,033 --> 00:42:36,400
that the Army had recovered
a spaceship
1013
00:42:36,533 --> 00:42:38,734
and the bodies of aliens.
1014
00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:41,533
Some of that testimony
was recorded by ufologist
1015
00:42:41,667 --> 00:42:46,633
in a 1991 document called
"Recollections of Roswell."
1016
00:42:46,767 --> 00:42:48,400
- I had learned first
1017
00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:52,166
that the sergeant of the guard
with a series of airmen
1018
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:54,200
went out,
and they surrounded the site.
1019
00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:56,867
Fishburne: Robert Shirkey was
assistant operations officer
1020
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,900
for the 509th bomber group.
1021
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,767
- Then they swept the area
and picked up
1022
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,233
everything they could.
1023
00:43:03,367 --> 00:43:05,367
The bodies were brought in,
1024
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,934
and everything was laid out
in hangar 84.
1025
00:43:09,066 --> 00:43:11,033
♪ ♪
1026
00:43:11,166 --> 00:43:13,567
Fishburne: Hangar 84
has figured prominently
1027
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:15,100
in the stories
of alleged eyewitnesses
1028
00:43:15,233 --> 00:43:16,800
who say it's where the secrets
1029
00:43:16,934 --> 00:43:19,633
of this extraterrestrial crash
were hidden.
1030
00:43:19,767 --> 00:43:24,633
- I received a telephone call
from the mortuary officer
1031
00:43:24,767 --> 00:43:27,100
out at the Army Airfield Base.
1032
00:43:27,233 --> 00:43:28,867
♪ ♪
1033
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,266
Fishburne: Glenn Dennis
was the mortician
1034
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,066
at the Ballard Funeral Home,
1035
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,066
which provided services
for the Roswell Army base.
1036
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,066
- He was inquiring about,
what would be
1037
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,300
the smallest possible casket
1038
00:43:41,433 --> 00:43:44,867
that we could get that
would be hermetically sealed?
1039
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,633
♪ ♪
1040
00:43:46,767 --> 00:43:48,300
Fishburne: Dennis says
he assumed
1041
00:43:48,433 --> 00:43:49,867
there'd been some kind
of deadly accident
1042
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,533
involving children,
1043
00:43:52,667 --> 00:43:56,033
so he delivered three
small coffins to the air base.
1044
00:43:56,166 --> 00:43:58,533
- And I had this friend,
this lieutenant nurse
1045
00:43:58,667 --> 00:44:01,100
that I knew quite well.
1046
00:44:01,233 --> 00:44:02,967
She said,
"How did you get in here?
1047
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,667
What are you doing in here?"
1048
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,600
And she said, "You're gonna
get in a lot of trouble."
1049
00:44:06,734 --> 00:44:08,000
She said,
"Would you please leave?
1050
00:44:08,133 --> 00:44:10,033
And get out of here
in a hurry."
1051
00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:12,667
By the time I had
turned around,
1052
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,033
there was another
officer said,
1053
00:44:14,166 --> 00:44:16,967
"Hey, wait a minute,"
and I said,
1054
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,100
"Looks like you had a crash.
1055
00:44:19,233 --> 00:44:21,967
Where was the crash?"
1056
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,467
And he said,
"You get the hell out of here,
1057
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,867
and you didn't see anything,
and you don't talk to anybody."
1058
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,800
Fishburne: Like Marcel,
Walter Haut,
1059
00:44:29,934 --> 00:44:31,867
also with the 509th,
1060
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,467
felt intimidated
to stay silent.
1061
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,533
- This is censorship,
pure and simple.
1062
00:44:37,667 --> 00:44:38,700
♪ ♪
1063
00:44:38,834 --> 00:44:40,333
I don't like it.
1064
00:44:40,467 --> 00:44:41,967
Fishburne: For many years,
Walter Haut,
1065
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,166
the 509th's public
information officer,
1066
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:47,367
claimed he simply did
as he was told
1067
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:50,633
and issued that famous
press release, but later,
1068
00:44:50,767 --> 00:44:54,600
Haut told ufologists that
what Marcel said was true
1069
00:44:54,734 --> 00:44:56,867
and only a fraction
of the story.
1070
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,200
He had personally seen
the alien bodies
1071
00:44:59,333 --> 00:45:01,100
inside Hangar 84.
1072
00:45:01,233 --> 00:45:08,266
♪ ♪
1073
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,500
- Some type of craft
from outer space.
1074
00:45:11,633 --> 00:45:13,433
From where, I do not know.
1075
00:45:13,567 --> 00:45:20,500
♪ ♪
1076
00:45:25,667 --> 00:45:27,200
Fishburne: Before he died,
1077
00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:29,033
a pilot named
Oliver "Pappy" Henderson,
1078
00:45:29,166 --> 00:45:31,333
who was stationed
at Roswell Army Air Base,
1079
00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:33,433
in July 1947,
1080
00:45:33,567 --> 00:45:36,066
made a shocking claim
to his wife and daughter.
1081
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,066
[foreboding music]
1082
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:46,033
♪ ♪
1083
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,934
Fishburne: According
to their testimony,
1084
00:45:54,066 --> 00:45:55,767
Henderson told them
that he was the one
1085
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:57,266
who flew the small coffins
1086
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,934
from Roswell
to Wright-Patterson,
1087
00:46:00,133 --> 00:46:02,667
even glimpsing
the alien bodies inside.
1088
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:09,700
♪ ♪
1089
00:46:21,867 --> 00:46:23,900
Fishburne: Could these stories
be validated in the journal
1090
00:46:24,033 --> 00:46:27,133
that belonged to Jesse Marcel?
1091
00:46:27,266 --> 00:46:30,433
There is no way of knowing
until it is deciphered.
1092
00:46:30,567 --> 00:46:34,066
- One question
that I'm considering was,
1093
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,266
was this handed to him
for safekeeping?
1094
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,667
I'm hoping that I can get
more handwriting samples
1095
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,567
of other people
in the 509th group
1096
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:44,834
to see if this might
have been passed to him
1097
00:46:44,967 --> 00:46:48,333
by somebody else
within the bomber group.
1098
00:46:48,467 --> 00:46:49,900
It's written
by the same person,
1099
00:46:50,033 --> 00:46:51,767
and for me,
that raises another question:
1100
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:53,734
why the marked shift?
1101
00:46:53,867 --> 00:46:57,300
There could be stress involved,
but could stress also mean
1102
00:46:57,433 --> 00:46:59,000
there could be
a distress signal?
1103
00:46:59,133 --> 00:47:00,500
I don't know if you remember
Vietnam vets
1104
00:47:00,633 --> 00:47:03,200
blinking into the camera
with Morse code
1105
00:47:03,333 --> 00:47:05,033
to relay a message
while they're talking.
1106
00:47:05,166 --> 00:47:06,967
The order of these quotes
is nonsensical.
1107
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,834
It's not clear why they held
meaning for the writer.
1108
00:47:09,967 --> 00:47:11,367
Maybe there's no meaning
at all,
1109
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:13,233
but it was just
a mnemonic device,
1110
00:47:13,367 --> 00:47:17,400
a particular quote recalls
a memory or a detail.
1111
00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:21,300
- Think motive too.
Who would give that to him?
1112
00:47:21,433 --> 00:47:23,166
You can understand that
if you're a tight-knit group,
1113
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:24,667
and you're in
the middle of nowhere,
1114
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,066
and you work in an air wing
with nukes,
1115
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,834
it's a pressure cooker.
1116
00:47:27,967 --> 00:47:30,533
They know that they could
trust each other with secrets.
1117
00:47:30,667 --> 00:47:32,066
Someone might choose him
1118
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,233
because he was the fall guy
for the incident,
1119
00:47:35,367 --> 00:47:38,700
so if you're gonna
give your encoded journal
1120
00:47:38,834 --> 00:47:40,867
or what have you
to one figure from the whole
1121
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,667
Roswell thing, you would
likely trust him to do it.
1122
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,867
- Right.
1123
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,233
♪ ♪
1124
00:47:46,367 --> 00:47:48,000
Fishburne: Coming up...
1125
00:47:48,133 --> 00:47:49,867
- That's kind of strange
1126
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,734
and could indicate
something hidden here.
1127
00:47:51,867 --> 00:47:53,633
Fishburne: Can one of
America's top code breakers
1128
00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:56,734
unlock the secrets
of this mystifying journal?
1129
00:47:56,867 --> 00:47:58,967
- So wait a minute.
You're telling me the 777
1130
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,800
means the angels
are providing abundance,
1131
00:48:01,934 --> 00:48:03,533
and then immediately
in the next paragraph,
1132
00:48:03,667 --> 00:48:04,900
we have a total shift
1133
00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:07,100
and something
that could be coded.
1134
00:48:07,233 --> 00:48:11,200
♪ ♪
1135
00:48:14,834 --> 00:48:17,700
[dramatic music]
1136
00:48:17,834 --> 00:48:19,867
♪ ♪
1137
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,133
Fishburne: To further
investigate
1138
00:48:21,266 --> 00:48:23,200
Marcel's baffling journal,
1139
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:25,467
former CIA investigator
Ben Smith is meeting
1140
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,533
with one of the nation's top
cryptologists, Craig Bauer,
1141
00:48:29,667 --> 00:48:33,266
professor of mathematics
at York University.
1142
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,800
- Craig.
- Oh, hi.
1143
00:48:34,934 --> 00:48:36,100
You must be Ben.
- That's right.
1144
00:48:36,233 --> 00:48:37,800
- Good to meet you.
- You too.
1145
00:48:37,934 --> 00:48:40,600
I brought by the document
that we discussed on the phone.
1146
00:48:40,734 --> 00:48:43,133
- Mm-hmm.
- Um...
1147
00:48:43,266 --> 00:48:44,834
I can't remember
how much I told you,
1148
00:48:44,967 --> 00:48:49,633
but I have with me a journal
that belonged to a man
1149
00:48:49,767 --> 00:48:52,266
by the name
of Major Jesse Marcel Sr.
1150
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,967
He was an Army
intelligence officer
1151
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:58,367
and was at the center of
the Roswell incident in 1947,
1152
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:01,700
the alleged UFO crash out
in the desert of New Mexico.
1153
00:49:01,834 --> 00:49:03,667
The family, after his death,
1154
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,734
finds this journal hidden
with his military records,
1155
00:49:07,867 --> 00:49:09,767
but it's not
in his handwriting.
1156
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:11,767
Now, I've flipped through
this a little bit.
1157
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:15,867
There are a lot of quotes,
a lot of musings.
1158
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,433
It's not addressed to anybody.
1159
00:49:17,567 --> 00:49:19,700
There aren't any names
that I can pick out.
1160
00:49:19,834 --> 00:49:21,734
- It doesn't appear
to be autobiographical?
1161
00:49:21,867 --> 00:49:23,066
- No.
- Okay.
1162
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,867
- From what I can tell.
- Yeah.
1163
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,600
- With my background
in intelligence,
1164
00:49:27,734 --> 00:49:31,433
I'm curious if this
is perhaps encoded,
1165
00:49:31,567 --> 00:49:36,266
if whoever owned this journal
had sensitive information
1166
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,400
they wanted to pass on
without actually revealing it,
1167
00:49:39,533 --> 00:49:40,533
but I need your help.
1168
00:49:40,667 --> 00:49:42,200
I can't make sense of it.
1169
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:44,266
You know, I'll let you
look through it.
1170
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,433
- Okay.
1171
00:49:45,567 --> 00:49:46,834
There are a lot of ways
1172
00:49:46,967 --> 00:49:50,166
that you can hide
a message in a journal.
1173
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:53,000
I'm a mathematician
focused on cryptology,
1174
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:55,233
making and breaking codes
and ciphers.
1175
00:49:55,367 --> 00:49:56,767
Ciphers are the coolest,
1176
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,867
sexiest form of writing
that there can be.
1177
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,367
If you're reading
somebody's diary,
1178
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:02,100
you're flipping through
page after page
1179
00:50:02,233 --> 00:50:04,033
and all of a sudden
you see something in a cipher,
1180
00:50:04,166 --> 00:50:06,200
you know that's the best part
of the whole diary, right?
1181
00:50:06,333 --> 00:50:08,433
This is--this is what
you want to get at.
1182
00:50:08,567 --> 00:50:11,066
We don't use ciphers
for our laundry list,
1183
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,767
for our grocery list, right?
1184
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:14,533
We use ciphers
to protect things
1185
00:50:14,667 --> 00:50:16,600
that are extremely important
or sensitive,
1186
00:50:16,734 --> 00:50:18,400
so that's the stuff
we most want to read
1187
00:50:18,533 --> 00:50:20,333
when we're trying
to unravel history.
1188
00:50:20,467 --> 00:50:22,333
♪ ♪
1189
00:50:22,467 --> 00:50:24,200
Yeah, the text
is a little odd.
1190
00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:26,667
We have uppercase letters
in the middle of a word.
1191
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,867
- Mm-hmm.
- This is, you know,
1192
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,233
obviously a unique item.
- Mm-hmm.
1193
00:50:30,367 --> 00:50:32,233
- I mean, do you have it
in a digital form that,
1194
00:50:32,367 --> 00:50:34,000
you know, we could really...
- I do, yeah.
1195
00:50:34,133 --> 00:50:35,667
- Let me see
the digital copy.
1196
00:50:37,533 --> 00:50:39,166
I love when I have
a cipher to myself,
1197
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,266
when I'm the first
to have eyes on something
1198
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,600
and get a stab
at deciphering it,
1199
00:50:43,734 --> 00:50:44,700
so it's very exciting
to be able
1200
00:50:44,834 --> 00:50:46,266
to look at the this journal
1201
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,066
because I'm the first person
with the skills
1202
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,233
to ferret out
what might be hidden there.
1203
00:50:50,367 --> 00:50:53,567
♪ ♪
1204
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:57,000
- We have 122 pages
of cursive writing,
1205
00:50:57,133 --> 00:51:00,500
and then on page 123...
1206
00:51:00,633 --> 00:51:01,800
- 1-2-3.
- After Roswell,
1207
00:51:01,934 --> 00:51:04,467
August 31, 1947,
1208
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,834
it shifts to this block
letter format.
1209
00:51:08,967 --> 00:51:12,100
Now, the military has had
the debris now for six weeks.
1210
00:51:12,233 --> 00:51:14,233
What have they learned
in that time?
1211
00:51:14,367 --> 00:51:16,300
And guys like Jesse Marcel
1212
00:51:16,433 --> 00:51:18,633
were told to be quiet
about what they found.
1213
00:51:18,767 --> 00:51:21,100
So this shift, to me,
looks like
1214
00:51:21,233 --> 00:51:23,667
it could be the start
of something interesting.
1215
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,667
- Yeah, I see a number
of things
1216
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,266
we could look at here.
1217
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,333
I think this might be intended
to be an M,
1218
00:51:28,467 --> 00:51:30,400
but it kind of looks like 777.
1219
00:51:30,533 --> 00:51:33,166
- Yeah, the document expert
pointed that out to me
1220
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:35,300
that that was a typical way
he wrote Ms,
1221
00:51:35,433 --> 00:51:37,000
but it's more separated here.
1222
00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:38,433
- I mean, if it is an M,
1223
00:51:38,567 --> 00:51:40,934
we have
some dashes after that.
1224
00:51:41,066 --> 00:51:43,734
Is that the number of letters?
1225
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:46,433
Fishburne: Craig Bauer agrees
that the capital Ms
1226
00:51:46,567 --> 00:51:48,500
may be the telltale sign
1227
00:51:48,633 --> 00:51:51,834
that a code
is embedded in the journal.
1228
00:51:51,967 --> 00:51:53,800
- The writing that's intriguing
in the journal,
1229
00:51:53,934 --> 00:51:55,467
the kind of writing
that seems like it
1230
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,100
could be hiding
a secret message,
1231
00:51:58,233 --> 00:52:01,567
follows after whatever happened
near Roswell happened
1232
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:04,033
in the summer of 1947,
1233
00:52:04,166 --> 00:52:06,367
so the timing
is kind of interesting.
1234
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:07,967
I'm sure you know 666.
1235
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:10,667
- Yeah, I'm familiar.
The--the devil, right?
1236
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,533
- The number of the beast.
- The beast, yeah.
1237
00:52:12,667 --> 00:52:14,533
- But also, in some systems
of belief,
1238
00:52:14,667 --> 00:52:19,166
777 is a special number,
the perfect being.
1239
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:21,734
Some people equate that
with Jesus.
1240
00:52:21,867 --> 00:52:23,700
- Interesting.
- So maybe it's just an M,
1241
00:52:23,834 --> 00:52:25,533
but that's something.
1242
00:52:25,667 --> 00:52:29,133
- Says here that 777
is the number of abundance
1243
00:52:29,266 --> 00:52:31,367
and that when angels start
sending you this message,
1244
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:33,533
it means that the abundance
you have been waiting for
1245
00:52:33,667 --> 00:52:35,066
is just there
waiting to be unlocked.
1246
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,166
[dramatic music]
1247
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:39,500
- There is something
interesting
1248
00:52:39,633 --> 00:52:42,033
right in that first line.
1249
00:52:42,166 --> 00:52:44,533
We have "when"
with a lowercase N.
1250
00:52:44,667 --> 00:52:46,233
- Mm-hmm.
1251
00:52:46,367 --> 00:52:47,467
- But then the next word,
"down,"
1252
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,800
ends with an uppercase N.
1253
00:52:48,934 --> 00:52:50,333
- Ah.
1254
00:52:50,467 --> 00:52:51,900
- And then "in"
with a lowercase N again.
1255
00:52:52,033 --> 00:52:53,300
- Okay.
1256
00:52:53,433 --> 00:52:54,333
- Why would he suddenly
capitalize
1257
00:52:54,467 --> 00:52:56,200
the last letter in a word?
1258
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:58,734
That's kind of strange
and could indicate
1259
00:52:58,867 --> 00:53:00,300
something hidden here.
1260
00:53:00,433 --> 00:53:02,233
- So wait a minute,
you're telling me that 777
1261
00:53:02,367 --> 00:53:04,934
means angels
are providing abundance,
1262
00:53:05,066 --> 00:53:06,867
and then immediately
in the next paragraph,
1263
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,133
we have a total shift.
1264
00:53:08,266 --> 00:53:09,433
It's something
that could be coded.
1265
00:53:09,567 --> 00:53:11,900
♪ ♪
1266
00:53:12,033 --> 00:53:15,700
That is almost too crazy
to believe.
1267
00:53:15,834 --> 00:53:19,700
Fishburne: Coming up, first
Roswell was a flying saucer.
1268
00:53:19,834 --> 00:53:23,467
Then they said a weather
balloon, and now this.
1269
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,467
- In 1947, it was
the misidentification
1270
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,066
of these radar reflectors
1271
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,233
that is most likely
the famous flying disc.
1272
00:53:31,367 --> 00:53:33,934
Fishburne: Why do some people
find it hard to believe them?
1273
00:53:34,066 --> 00:53:38,200
♪ ♪
1274
00:53:41,834 --> 00:53:44,700
[dramatic music]
1275
00:53:44,834 --> 00:53:46,433
♪ ♪
1276
00:53:46,567 --> 00:53:49,100
[tense music]
1277
00:53:49,233 --> 00:53:50,600
- Well, let me go ahead
and look at a couple
1278
00:53:50,734 --> 00:53:53,667
more pages,
see what else we have here.
1279
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,867
♪ ♪
1280
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,600
Fishburne: Ben Smith
is certain he's brought
1281
00:53:57,734 --> 00:53:59,033
the journal
that belonged to Jesse Marcel
1282
00:53:59,166 --> 00:54:00,734
to the right place.
1283
00:54:00,867 --> 00:54:04,400
- Okay, here we're
one page further along.
1284
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:06,233
Fishburne: Top codebreaker
Craig Bauer
1285
00:54:06,367 --> 00:54:08,700
is starting to see patterns
in the lettering,
1286
00:54:08,834 --> 00:54:12,767
a clear signal that a message
may be hidden in code.
1287
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:15,100
- Here, again, you can see
some different forms.
1288
00:54:15,233 --> 00:54:19,867
In the second line, "in"
doesn't have a dot on the I.
1289
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,700
In the next line,
it looks like a foreign word,
1290
00:54:22,834 --> 00:54:24,700
perhaps--does have the dot.
1291
00:54:24,834 --> 00:54:26,433
I mean, you can sometimes
forget to dot an I,
1292
00:54:26,567 --> 00:54:28,867
but if we're seeing
two versions of many letters,
1293
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,600
there could be more to it
than just forgetfulness.
1294
00:54:31,734 --> 00:54:32,934
There could be a method
to the madness.
1295
00:54:33,066 --> 00:54:34,600
- Yeah.
1296
00:54:34,734 --> 00:54:36,100
- It's not like we just have
a small passage.
1297
00:54:36,233 --> 00:54:37,533
It continues over
several pages,
1298
00:54:37,667 --> 00:54:39,700
so there's a potential
for, you know,
1299
00:54:39,834 --> 00:54:41,567
a little greater
depth of information
1300
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:42,900
being conveyed here.
1301
00:54:43,033 --> 00:54:45,000
♪ ♪
1302
00:54:45,133 --> 00:54:46,333
This is jumping out at me.
1303
00:54:46,467 --> 00:54:47,900
Again, we have the phenomena
1304
00:54:48,033 --> 00:54:50,033
where a word ends
with an uppercase letter:
1305
00:54:50,166 --> 00:54:53,266
"short" with a capital T.
1306
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,433
I mean, he uses lowercase
Ts elsewhere.
1307
00:54:55,567 --> 00:54:57,433
It's not like the whole thing
is in uppercase, you know,
1308
00:54:57,567 --> 00:54:59,166
somebody shouting at you
in an e-mail.
1309
00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:02,667
- Oh, right, so while the words
themselves are innocuous,
1310
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,600
the actual cases of the letters
1311
00:55:04,734 --> 00:55:06,567
might indicate
some kind of code.
1312
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,400
- Yes, there's several ways
to do that with a cipher.
1313
00:55:10,533 --> 00:55:12,433
It just doesn't seem natural.
1314
00:55:12,567 --> 00:55:15,467
That's one of the giveaways
you're trying to hide something
1315
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,433
is the handwriting
doesn't look natural
1316
00:55:17,567 --> 00:55:19,667
or the characters
don't look right.
1317
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,734
It's just--anything that
looks, like, a little hinky
1318
00:55:22,867 --> 00:55:27,266
and off from normal writing
can indicate that the author
1319
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,567
is trying to do something else
at the same time,
1320
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:31,633
and so it's a sign
1321
00:55:31,767 --> 00:55:33,667
that this should bear
closer examination.
1322
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,433
- Yeah.
1323
00:55:35,567 --> 00:55:37,233
Fishburne: After spending
less than an hour
1324
00:55:37,367 --> 00:55:40,066
looking at the journal,
Bauer sees telltale signs
1325
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,166
that a code
might be embedded in the text.
1326
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:45,000
To his trained eye,
1327
00:55:45,133 --> 00:55:47,567
having two forms
of a single letter suggests
1328
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:50,100
what is called
a biliteral code
1329
00:55:50,233 --> 00:55:52,633
where the alternate form
represents a different letter
1330
00:55:52,767 --> 00:55:56,300
altogether in what is known
as the B alphabet.
1331
00:55:56,433 --> 00:55:57,934
♪ ♪
1332
00:55:58,066 --> 00:55:59,934
- We already identified
two versions of I,
1333
00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:02,166
two versions of T,
two versions of N.
1334
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:03,800
- Mm-hmm.
- So we want to keep rolling
1335
00:56:03,934 --> 00:56:05,700
with that
and build a little catalog
1336
00:56:05,834 --> 00:56:07,567
of what's going on
on these few pages.
1337
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:10,033
- Once you've separated
the letters, then what?
1338
00:56:10,166 --> 00:56:12,500
- Well, we just investigate
different schemes.
1339
00:56:12,633 --> 00:56:17,133
We had G like this
and G like this.
1340
00:56:17,266 --> 00:56:19,000
- Right.
- So in some cases,
1341
00:56:19,133 --> 00:56:21,900
it was a lowercase
versus an uppercase,
1342
00:56:22,033 --> 00:56:25,133
but which of these is A,
and which of these is B?
1343
00:56:25,266 --> 00:56:26,667
It's unclear.
- Right.
1344
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,700
- So we have a lot
of possibilities to check.
1345
00:56:29,834 --> 00:56:32,367
Any given letter,
we'd have two possibilities:
1346
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:34,633
that this form is A
or that this form is B.
1347
00:56:34,767 --> 00:56:36,200
- Mm-hmm.
- So two choices
1348
00:56:36,333 --> 00:56:39,867
for each letter,
well, 26 letters.
1349
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,367
- Oh, wow.
1350
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:43,633
- We'd have that many
possibilities to consider.
1351
00:56:43,767 --> 00:56:45,367
- That grows pretty fast.
1352
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:50,967
- That's 67,108,864.
1353
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:55,834
- Over 67 million possibilities
in that journal.
1354
00:56:55,967 --> 00:56:57,367
Wow.
1355
00:56:57,500 --> 00:56:59,233
- Well, fortunately,
we're not looking at
1356
00:56:59,367 --> 00:57:02,367
the journal in 1947.
1357
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:04,533
Okay, with the computing power
we have now,
1358
00:57:04,667 --> 00:57:06,367
we can test all of those
1359
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:08,967
and figure out which one looks
the most like English.
1360
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,800
- Yeah. Do you have a program
already that can do that?
1361
00:57:11,934 --> 00:57:13,233
- No. This is a custom job.
1362
00:57:13,367 --> 00:57:15,066
- Oh, really?
- But exciting.
1363
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,867
- I expected it to be hard,
1364
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,266
but I didn't think it would
take custom code to do it,
1365
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,700
but that's impressive.
1366
00:57:21,834 --> 00:57:23,100
That means I came
to the right guys.
1367
00:57:23,233 --> 00:57:24,633
- Yeah, it should be fun.
- Yeah.
1368
00:57:24,767 --> 00:57:26,133
- We'll be in touch.
- Cool. Thanks, guys.
1369
00:57:26,266 --> 00:57:27,100
- Have a good trip back.
1370
00:57:27,233 --> 00:57:29,934
♪ ♪
1371
00:57:30,066 --> 00:57:31,600
Fishburne: If Craig Bauer
can decipher it,
1372
00:57:31,734 --> 00:57:33,467
the journal could
be the missing link,
1373
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,433
the key to unlocking
what happened at Roswell.
1374
00:57:36,567 --> 00:57:42,533
♪ ♪
1375
00:57:42,667 --> 00:57:44,567
From the moment
he broke his silence,
1376
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:47,066
millions of Americans have
believed that Jesse Marcel
1377
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,700
was telling the truth.
1378
00:57:48,834 --> 00:57:52,133
♪ ♪
1379
00:57:52,266 --> 00:57:54,967
His story struck a chord
in the 1970s
1380
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:57,200
when unrest
over the Vietnam War
1381
00:57:57,333 --> 00:57:59,300
coupled with scandals
like Watergate
1382
00:57:59,433 --> 00:58:02,200
made many distrustful
of big government.
1383
00:58:02,333 --> 00:58:03,867
♪ ♪
1384
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,033
After Marcel,
other members of the 509th
1385
00:58:07,166 --> 00:58:09,433
elaborated on what happened
at Roswell.
1386
00:58:09,567 --> 00:58:11,433
- What do you think it was?
1387
00:58:11,567 --> 00:58:14,600
- Some type of craft
from outer space.
1388
00:58:14,734 --> 00:58:16,500
From where, I do not know.
1389
00:58:16,633 --> 00:58:18,133
♪ ♪
1390
00:58:18,266 --> 00:58:19,867
Fishburne: By 1990,
a Gallup poll
1391
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,700
reported that nearly
70 million Americans
1392
00:58:22,834 --> 00:58:28,100
believed alien spaceships
had visited the Earth,
1393
00:58:28,233 --> 00:58:30,867
yet the government
stayed silent about Roswell,
1394
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,533
which it officially
considered a non-event.
1395
00:58:34,667 --> 00:58:37,500
Decades after the crash
and the press conference
1396
00:58:37,633 --> 00:58:39,633
that claimed it was
a weather balloon,
1397
00:58:39,767 --> 00:58:42,700
people still asked questions.
1398
00:58:42,834 --> 00:58:44,100
♪ ♪
1399
00:58:44,233 --> 00:58:47,700
- The issue is providing
to the public
1400
00:58:47,834 --> 00:58:50,433
whatever records
may still exist, if any.
1401
00:58:50,567 --> 00:58:51,967
There may not be any,
1402
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,667
but if any on
the Roswell incident,
1403
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,834
so people can make
their own determination.
1404
00:58:56,967 --> 00:58:58,834
That is the mission
1405
00:58:58,967 --> 00:59:01,767
that I discussed with
the general accounting office.
1406
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:03,934
Fishburne: Then in 1993,
1407
00:59:04,066 --> 00:59:06,567
Congressman Steven Schiff
of New Mexico
1408
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:09,600
began pressing hard
for answers.
1409
00:59:09,734 --> 00:59:12,734
Following his request,
the U.S. Air Force
1410
00:59:12,867 --> 00:59:16,000
undertook a fresh
investigation of Roswell.
1411
00:59:16,133 --> 00:59:20,166
It examined the records
of half a dozen agencies
1412
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:22,667
and even interviewed
those still alive
1413
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,900
who claimed
they'd been witnesses.
1414
00:59:25,033 --> 00:59:28,100
♪ ♪
1415
00:59:28,233 --> 00:59:30,934
The result was
a nearly 1,000 page report
1416
00:59:31,066 --> 00:59:33,834
made public in 1995.
1417
00:59:33,967 --> 00:59:36,767
Colonel Richard Weaver
supervised the investigation
1418
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:39,433
and was one
of the report's authors.
1419
00:59:39,567 --> 00:59:42,500
- We just didn't go to a giant
master file that said "Roswell"
1420
00:59:42,633 --> 00:59:44,166
and open up a file folder.
1421
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:48,567
We started to methodically
look at all the things
1422
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:51,600
that were taking place
in the Air Force in 1947
1423
00:59:51,734 --> 00:59:54,934
at Roswell Air Force Base
in New Mexico,
1424
00:59:55,066 --> 00:59:59,333
and so we searched
a multitude of records
1425
00:59:59,467 --> 01:00:01,100
in a multitude of locations
because, of course,
1426
01:00:01,233 --> 01:00:02,734
the base has been closed
for a long time.
1427
01:00:02,867 --> 01:00:04,834
♪ ♪
1428
01:00:04,967 --> 01:00:06,900
Fishburne: The report does not
dispute that something crashed
1429
01:00:07,033 --> 01:00:09,033
in the ranch lands
west of Roswell,
1430
01:00:09,166 --> 01:00:10,734
but in a stunning twist,
1431
01:00:10,867 --> 01:00:13,100
it reveals that
it was not a weather balloon.
1432
01:00:13,233 --> 01:00:17,333
♪ ♪
1433
01:00:17,467 --> 01:00:18,900
- If you will read this book,
and I'm sure you're gonna
1434
01:00:19,033 --> 01:00:20,400
take it home tonight
and read it,
1435
01:00:20,533 --> 01:00:21,834
quite frankly,
1436
01:00:21,967 --> 01:00:23,867
you're gonna find
some very interesting
1437
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,266
and quite fascinating
pieces of information
1438
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,767
about Air Force research.
1439
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:29,767
♪ ♪
1440
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:31,734
Fishburne: The Air Force
claimed that what crashed
1441
01:00:31,867 --> 01:00:35,533
was almost certainly a type
of balloon called a Mogul.
1442
01:00:35,667 --> 01:00:37,433
- I don't know what they saw
in '47,
1443
01:00:37,567 --> 01:00:40,700
but I'm quite sure
it probably was Project Mogul.
1444
01:00:40,834 --> 01:00:44,834
Fishburne: In 1947,
the United States launched
1445
01:00:44,967 --> 01:00:48,367
32 Mogul balloons
over the course of 7 months.
1446
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:50,333
They were part
of a top-secret project
1447
01:00:50,467 --> 01:00:53,266
in the growing Cold War
with the Soviet Union.
1448
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:59,734
♪ ♪
1449
01:00:59,867 --> 01:01:01,934
Each Mogul balloon
was essentially
1450
01:01:02,066 --> 01:01:03,467
a listening device
1451
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,600
equipped to detect
the sound waves
1452
01:01:05,734 --> 01:01:09,600
that would be produced
by a Soviet atomic bomb test.
1453
01:01:09,734 --> 01:01:12,500
The U.S. was the only
nuclear power in the world,
1454
01:01:12,633 --> 01:01:14,266
and keeping track
of the Soviets
1455
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,834
was the highest priority.
1456
01:01:16,967 --> 01:01:18,734
The Mogul balloons
were launched
1457
01:01:18,867 --> 01:01:20,567
from the Alamogordo Air Base,
1458
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:23,467
just 70 miles from Roswell.
1459
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,500
- In 1947, it was
1460
01:01:25,633 --> 01:01:27,900
the misidentification
of these radar reflectors
1461
01:01:28,033 --> 01:01:32,600
that is most likely
the famous flying disc.
1462
01:01:32,734 --> 01:01:35,800
Whether you accept that
as the Roswell information,
1463
01:01:35,934 --> 01:01:38,066
I quite frankly don't know,
but we do
1464
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,734
because it overlays so well
with this period of time.
1465
01:01:41,867 --> 01:01:44,500
Fishburne: For many, the
explanation seemed plausible,
1466
01:01:44,633 --> 01:01:47,667
but for others,
it was deeply unsatisfying,
1467
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,166
but the Air Force
investigation
1468
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:51,000
has been criticized
1469
01:01:51,133 --> 01:01:53,633
for not having full access
to U.S. Army records,
1470
01:01:53,767 --> 01:01:55,433
which in 1974,
1471
01:01:55,567 --> 01:01:57,900
still oversaw the nation's
growing air forces.
1472
01:01:58,033 --> 01:02:01,367
For Don Schmitt and others,
it didn't wash.
1473
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:04,066
- They were quickly trying
to put together
1474
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,200
their third explanation.
1475
01:02:06,333 --> 01:02:11,300
"Ladies and gentlemen,
we lied about Roswell in 1947.
1476
01:02:11,433 --> 01:02:13,500
"We lied about
the balloon explanation,
1477
01:02:13,633 --> 01:02:16,200
but here's our new theory,"
1478
01:02:16,333 --> 01:02:18,500
and they presented
Project Mogul.
1479
01:02:18,633 --> 01:02:21,066
- So why do you think
people in Roswell
1480
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,900
still are not convinced
no matter what you say?
1481
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:27,200
- I'm sorry, but I just can't
answer that question for them.
1482
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:29,200
♪ ♪
1483
01:02:29,333 --> 01:02:31,900
Fishburne: To this day,
the family of Jesse Marcel
1484
01:02:32,033 --> 01:02:35,667
is definitely not convinced
it was a Mogul balloon.
1485
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,533
- In 1995, the government
came out with a story
1486
01:02:39,667 --> 01:02:43,834
to explain what the crash
at Roswell was.
1487
01:02:43,967 --> 01:02:45,834
Looking at that information,
1488
01:02:45,967 --> 01:02:48,066
based upon what my grandfather
and my father told me,
1489
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,867
they just don't match up.
1490
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,700
♪ ♪
1491
01:02:52,834 --> 01:02:55,467
Fishburne: Coming up,
this former FAA inspector
1492
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,967
has investigated hundreds
of aviation crash sites.
1493
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:03,133
He doubts this one was what
the government says it was.
1494
01:03:03,266 --> 01:03:05,734
- Not sure I buy that whole
balloon drag theory.
1495
01:03:05,867 --> 01:03:07,767
- Really?
- Something's wrong with it.
1496
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:10,300
♪ ♪
1497
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,767
[dramatic music]
1498
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:18,600
♪ ♪
1499
01:03:18,734 --> 01:03:21,500
[tense music]
1500
01:03:21,633 --> 01:03:26,633
♪ ♪
1501
01:03:26,767 --> 01:03:30,767
- So far, there has never been
a researcher
1502
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:32,967
with your experience
and credibility on the site
1503
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:35,300
to examine
the potential of a crash.
1504
01:03:35,433 --> 01:03:36,333
- Okay.
1505
01:03:36,467 --> 01:03:38,266
♪ ♪
1506
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,367
Fishburne: The argument over
what crashed at Roswell
1507
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:43,367
has always been missing
physical evidence.
1508
01:03:43,500 --> 01:03:45,500
Ben Smith is returning
to the debris field,
1509
01:03:45,633 --> 01:03:48,033
where in 1947, Jesse Marcel,
1510
01:03:48,166 --> 01:03:51,000
a 40-year-old
Army intelligence officer,
1511
01:03:51,133 --> 01:03:52,600
was certain he'd picked up
pieces of wreckage
1512
01:03:52,734 --> 01:03:54,100
that were extraterrestrial.
1513
01:03:54,233 --> 01:03:56,867
♪ ♪
1514
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,033
On this visit,
Smith has brought with him
1515
01:03:59,166 --> 01:04:03,600
one of America's leading
experts on aviation crashes.
1516
01:04:03,734 --> 01:04:06,567
- So a lot of my investigative
work on accidents
1517
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:09,567
is post-accident.
1518
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:11,000
Fishburne: David Soucie
is a former
1519
01:04:11,133 --> 01:04:13,333
FAA accident inspector
1520
01:04:13,467 --> 01:04:16,667
and the author of "Malaysia
Airlines Flight 370,"
1521
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,367
the commercial airliner
1522
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,500
that mysteriously disappeared
without a trace.
1523
01:04:21,633 --> 01:04:24,266
♪ ♪
1524
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,266
Smith hopes
that Soucie's expert eye
1525
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,700
will find something
that others have missed.
1526
01:04:29,834 --> 01:04:32,200
- My hope, originally,
with the tech survey,
1527
01:04:32,333 --> 01:04:33,867
was that we could bring out
all this equipment
1528
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,934
that didn't exist,
and all this software
1529
01:04:36,066 --> 01:04:38,233
and find evidence of debris
1530
01:04:38,367 --> 01:04:41,500
or an impact zone
or a large-scale cover-up,
1531
01:04:41,633 --> 01:04:44,367
and so far, we haven't
been able to find anything.
1532
01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:47,166
What I'd love from you
is your perspective
1533
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:50,367
on entry angles and speeds
1534
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:52,400
and something
that could explain
1535
01:04:52,533 --> 01:04:53,734
the witness accounts
at the debris field.
1536
01:04:53,867 --> 01:04:56,100
- Okay.
1537
01:04:56,233 --> 01:04:58,767
Fishburne: Even 70 years
after the Roswell crash,
1538
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:00,567
David Soucie knows
that some things
1539
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:02,734
won't have changed much
at the debris field,
1540
01:05:02,867 --> 01:05:05,333
like the topography
or landscape features.
1541
01:05:05,467 --> 01:05:08,467
♪ ♪
1542
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,500
- What is intriguing to me
about this
1543
01:05:10,633 --> 01:05:13,233
is the witness credibility
aspect of it.
1544
01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:14,734
Even when I go
on an accident site
1545
01:05:14,867 --> 01:05:17,266
just days after the accident,
1546
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,233
there's credibility
issues there.
1547
01:05:19,367 --> 01:05:23,066
They train us as inspectors
to vet those witness accounts
1548
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,967
because they really believe
that they saw something happen
1549
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:29,400
that we know
for a fact didn't happen.
1550
01:05:29,533 --> 01:05:30,934
♪ ♪
1551
01:05:31,066 --> 01:05:33,500
As far as the physical
evidence piece,
1552
01:05:33,633 --> 01:05:35,133
I'm hoping to find something
that could say,
1553
01:05:35,266 --> 01:05:38,333
"Here's what is here,"
but at that very least,
1554
01:05:38,467 --> 01:05:40,633
we might be able to determine
what is not there.
1555
01:05:40,767 --> 01:05:46,166
♪ ♪
1556
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,333
- Doesn't look like much,
but it's the birthplace
1557
01:05:48,467 --> 01:05:49,667
of ufology
in the United States.
1558
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,834
- Yeah.
1559
01:05:50,967 --> 01:05:52,467
Fishburne: Just by measuring
1560
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,400
the patterns and velocity
of the wind,
1561
01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:57,300
Soucie is confident
he can gather enough data
1562
01:05:57,433 --> 01:05:59,233
to test the government's claim
1563
01:05:59,367 --> 01:06:01,800
that what crashed here
was a Mogul balloon.
1564
01:06:01,934 --> 01:06:05,467
♪ ♪
1565
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,567
- Mogul was an attempt
to acoustically detect
1566
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:10,333
Soviet nuclear blast
1567
01:06:10,467 --> 01:06:12,367
and ballistic missile
launches.
1568
01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:14,000
♪ ♪
1569
01:06:14,133 --> 01:06:15,667
Fishburne: A Mogul balloon
was actually
1570
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,367
a series of weather balloons
1571
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:20,734
linked together
in a 650-foot-high chain,
1572
01:06:20,867 --> 01:06:23,700
100 feet taller than
the Washington Monument.
1573
01:06:23,834 --> 01:06:25,500
♪ ♪
1574
01:06:25,633 --> 01:06:28,467
Each balloon chain carried
a crude acoustic censor
1575
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,867
called a sonobuoy.
1576
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,834
- In 1947, it was
the misidentification
1577
01:06:34,967 --> 01:06:36,400
of these radar reflectors
1578
01:06:36,533 --> 01:06:40,834
that is most likely
the famous flying disk.
1579
01:06:40,967 --> 01:06:44,200
Fishburne: The 1995
Air Force report theorized
1580
01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:46,400
that Mogul balloon
number four,
1581
01:06:46,533 --> 01:06:49,367
which had been launched
on June 4, 1947,
1582
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:52,400
was the one
that crashed near Roswell.
1583
01:06:52,533 --> 01:06:55,567
- These flights were all
meticulously logged,
1584
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:57,133
when they were launched
1585
01:06:57,266 --> 01:06:58,834
and what the weather was
and all these things,
1586
01:06:58,967 --> 01:07:01,266
and they tried to recover
the material if they could,
1587
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:06,533
but the material in and
of itself wasn't important.
1588
01:07:06,667 --> 01:07:07,934
The purpose was important.
1589
01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:09,700
♪ ♪
1590
01:07:09,834 --> 01:07:11,734
Fishburne: It was slightly
more than 3 weeks
1591
01:07:11,867 --> 01:07:15,100
between the time Mogul
balloon four was reported lost
1592
01:07:15,233 --> 01:07:17,433
and the Roswell wreckage
was found.
1593
01:07:17,567 --> 01:07:20,133
♪ ♪
1594
01:07:20,266 --> 01:07:22,433
- So let me show you
exactly what
1595
01:07:22,567 --> 01:07:24,533
the witnesses describe
as a furrow.
1596
01:07:24,667 --> 01:07:27,133
- Furrow.
- Or a gouge
1597
01:07:27,266 --> 01:07:30,133
beginning here
heading in that direction,
1598
01:07:30,266 --> 01:07:34,367
cut across the landscape
for 200 to 300 feet
1599
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:35,467
in this direction.
1600
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,867
- And how wide?
1601
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,300
- 10 feet.
- 10 feet wide.
1602
01:07:40,433 --> 01:07:41,633
Interesting.
1603
01:07:41,767 --> 01:07:43,266
- And from this location,
1604
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,467
we also start the fan
of the debris field.
1605
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,100
Jesse Marcel Sr. claimed that
the debris looks scattered
1606
01:07:50,233 --> 01:07:53,867
as if something exploded
from the sky.
1607
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,533
- There was so much of it.
1608
01:07:55,667 --> 01:07:58,467
It was scattered over
such a vast area.
1609
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,200
Fishburne: Ufologist
and author Kevin Randle
1610
01:08:01,333 --> 01:08:04,533
is an expert
on the Roswell crash.
1611
01:08:04,667 --> 01:08:06,367
Randle is certain
that Jesse Marcel
1612
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:10,033
would have recognized
the wreckage of a balloon.
1613
01:08:10,166 --> 01:08:12,867
- Jesse Marcel examined
that debris.
1614
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,967
Had it been a weather balloon
and a ray wind target,
1615
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:16,367
he would have recognized it,
1616
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:17,767
and that would be
the end of the story,
1617
01:08:17,900 --> 01:08:19,266
and you and I
would not be here today.
1618
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,834
- Weather balloons
have been used
1619
01:08:20,967 --> 01:08:22,867
to take soundingss
of the atmosphere.
1620
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,100
They're launched
around the world twice a day,
1621
01:08:25,233 --> 01:08:27,266
and that's been the case
1622
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,100
from before 1947
right up to now.
1623
01:08:30,233 --> 01:08:32,667
Eventually they do pop
and come down to Earth
1624
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,867
and are retrieved.
1625
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,834
♪ ♪
1626
01:08:36,967 --> 01:08:38,800
Fishburne:
But Richard Weaver says
1627
01:08:38,934 --> 01:08:41,000
that only officers directly
involved in project Mogul
1628
01:08:41,133 --> 01:08:42,700
would have known about it.
1629
01:08:42,834 --> 01:08:46,100
- They classified Mogul
top secret,
1630
01:08:46,233 --> 01:08:48,867
which means only a few people
have the need to know.
1631
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,333
♪ ♪
1632
01:08:51,467 --> 01:08:53,166
Fishburne: The project's
lead engineer
1633
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:55,934
was Professor Charles Moore
of New York University.
1634
01:08:56,066 --> 01:08:57,667
He agreed with the government
1635
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,200
that the eyewitnesses'
descriptions of debris
1636
01:08:59,333 --> 01:09:02,233
matched one of his
Mogul balloons.
1637
01:09:02,367 --> 01:09:04,734
- The rancher who picked up
the debris
1638
01:09:04,867 --> 01:09:07,734
noted that it contained
brass eyelets
1639
01:09:07,867 --> 01:09:09,934
at the corners
of these radar targets.
1640
01:09:10,066 --> 01:09:12,000
They were also
on the targets we flew.
1641
01:09:12,133 --> 01:09:14,166
Fishburne: Moore said
that the instant news broke
1642
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:16,533
that the Army had recovered
a flying disc,
1643
01:09:16,667 --> 01:09:20,667
he knew it was his lost
Mogul balloon number four.
1644
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,000
- When Moore and his Mogul
team learned of the flap
1645
01:09:23,133 --> 01:09:24,934
over the Roswell incident,
he said they laughed,
1646
01:09:25,066 --> 01:09:27,266
but they kept quiet
about their project.
1647
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,600
♪ ♪
1648
01:09:30,734 --> 01:09:32,166
- So they're saying
it went this direction,
1649
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:33,433
which is almost east, right?
1650
01:09:33,567 --> 01:09:35,400
- Right.
1651
01:09:35,533 --> 01:09:38,667
- What I'd like to do is get
documentation of the site.
1652
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,367
I'll take the angle
of every photo...
1653
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:44,066
[camera shutter clicks]
1654
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,767
And then we'll be able
to map that against
1655
01:09:45,900 --> 01:09:49,867
what I expect
the airflow would have been.
1656
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,834
Then what I like to do
at every accident site
1657
01:09:51,967 --> 01:09:54,767
is get some pictures of what
would be the approach path
1658
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:57,266
to the impact point.
1659
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,433
So from every location,
1660
01:09:59,567 --> 01:10:02,567
we take pictures coming in
and going out.
1661
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:07,600
♪ ♪
1662
01:10:07,734 --> 01:10:11,700
Not sure I buy that
whole balloon drag theory...
1663
01:10:11,834 --> 01:10:14,066
- Really?
- Down through there.
1664
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,867
Fishburne: It's only his first
visit to the debris field,
1665
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,400
but already, this seasoned
former FAA crash inspector
1666
01:10:20,533 --> 01:10:22,266
has doubts
that a Mogul balloon
1667
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,900
could have crashed here.
1668
01:10:24,033 --> 01:10:25,934
- Something's wrong with it,
with that whole theory
1669
01:10:26,066 --> 01:10:27,734
of the fact that it drug
and it strayed,
1670
01:10:27,867 --> 01:10:29,767
and there was debris
straight off to the east.
1671
01:10:29,900 --> 01:10:31,567
Not really buying that.
1672
01:10:31,700 --> 01:10:34,667
To think of a balloon
going this way,
1673
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,367
if it were a Mogul balloon
1674
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:39,934
that was settling as the
balloon approaches the ground,
1675
01:10:40,066 --> 01:10:43,667
It picks up the ground flow,
so it'd be highly irregular
1676
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,333
to see a "balloon accident"
go across this valley
1677
01:10:47,467 --> 01:10:51,033
and continue in that direction
the way it was described.
1678
01:10:51,166 --> 01:10:53,166
We got wind readings up there,
wind readings on the west side
1679
01:10:53,300 --> 01:10:54,266
and then wind readings
at the bottom...
1680
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,667
- Yeah.
- And you can see
1681
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,066
that it changed direction
throughout that.
1682
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,700
- So we can rule out
a Mogul balloon
1683
01:10:59,834 --> 01:11:02,333
making contact with the Earth
at the furrow,
1684
01:11:02,467 --> 01:11:03,834
dragging across the ground,
1685
01:11:03,967 --> 01:11:06,834
laying to rest
across that debris field.
1686
01:11:06,967 --> 01:11:09,266
- It's not the way it works.
Just not the way it works.
1687
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,300
- Ugh, I don't know if you've
removed a piece of the puzzle
1688
01:11:12,433 --> 01:11:13,433
or added a new one.
1689
01:11:13,567 --> 01:11:14,900
I'm not sure at this point.
1690
01:11:15,033 --> 01:11:16,233
- "Just the facts, ma'am."
1691
01:11:16,367 --> 01:11:17,300
[both laughing]
1692
01:11:17,433 --> 01:11:24,233
♪ ♪
1693
01:11:24,367 --> 01:11:26,166
Fishburne: David Soucie
will put his readings
1694
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:27,834
into a computer program
1695
01:11:27,967 --> 01:11:30,300
designed to analyze
crash sites.
1696
01:11:30,433 --> 01:11:31,900
If he determines
a Mogul balloon
1697
01:11:32,033 --> 01:11:33,900
could not have gone down here,
1698
01:11:34,033 --> 01:11:36,900
the investigation will be
one step closer to discovering
1699
01:11:37,033 --> 01:11:39,633
whether Jesse Marcel
was telling the truth.
1700
01:11:39,767 --> 01:11:42,567
♪ ♪
1701
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,500
Coming up, she can spot a liar
in the smallest gesture.
1702
01:11:46,633 --> 01:11:48,400
- We're looking for things
like fidgeting
1703
01:11:48,533 --> 01:11:51,166
or diverting attention.
1704
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:53,000
Fishburne: So does this body
language expert
1705
01:11:53,133 --> 01:11:56,300
think Jesse Marcel
was telling the truth?
1706
01:11:56,433 --> 01:11:58,233
- We have two forms
of every letter
1707
01:11:58,367 --> 01:11:59,800
that appears more than once.
1708
01:11:59,934 --> 01:12:01,567
Fishburne: A top cryptologist
is sure
1709
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:03,400
the journal
is hiding a message.
1710
01:12:03,533 --> 01:12:04,633
- To a cryptographer,
this indicates
1711
01:12:04,767 --> 01:12:06,300
a certain kind of cipher.
1712
01:12:06,433 --> 01:12:07,834
- It does?
- Yes.
1713
01:12:07,967 --> 01:12:09,400
Fishburne: But will he
crack the code?
1714
01:12:09,533 --> 01:12:13,266
♪ ♪
1715
01:12:16,967 --> 01:12:19,800
[dramatic music]
1716
01:12:19,934 --> 01:12:22,000
♪ ♪
1717
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:28,300
Fishburne: Because so much
of his investigation
1718
01:12:28,433 --> 01:12:30,800
hinges on Jesse Marcel's
testimony,
1719
01:12:30,934 --> 01:12:32,967
Ben Smith has come
to New York City
1720
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:36,467
to see Tonya Reiman,
an expert in body language
1721
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,133
and what are called
microexpressions.
1722
01:12:39,266 --> 01:12:40,567
♪ ♪
1723
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:41,967
- This is a photo
1724
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:44,767
of the primary subject
of my investigation,
1725
01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:47,133
an intelligence officer
by the name of Jesse Marcel.
1726
01:12:47,266 --> 01:12:50,800
Here he is in a press release
on July 8, 1947.
1727
01:12:50,934 --> 01:12:55,066
He was ordered to pose
with this tinfoil here
1728
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,734
and say what earlier had been
reported as a flying saucer
1729
01:12:58,867 --> 01:13:00,367
was a weather balloon.
1730
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:03,133
It's not until 1980
that he comes out publicly
1731
01:13:03,266 --> 01:13:04,633
and starts speaking
to the cameras
1732
01:13:04,767 --> 01:13:06,133
about what he really saw.
1733
01:13:06,266 --> 01:13:07,567
He was of the impression
1734
01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:09,300
that these materials
were not from this planet.
1735
01:13:09,433 --> 01:13:10,967
- Right.
- So that led to the idea
1736
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:14,667
that there was a government
cover-up to hide a UFO crash
1737
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,367
and bodies and many
other extraordinary claims,
1738
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:20,333
but it all comes back
to the integrity
1739
01:13:20,467 --> 01:13:22,233
and the testimony
of this man here.
1740
01:13:22,367 --> 01:13:24,567
♪ ♪
1741
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:26,333
Fishburne: Smith
has brought with him
1742
01:13:26,467 --> 01:13:29,166
footage of some of
Jesse Marcel's interviews.
1743
01:13:29,300 --> 01:13:31,900
Reiman will watch them
closely, looking for any sign
1744
01:13:32,033 --> 01:13:35,700
that Jesse Marcel
may not be telling the truth.
1745
01:13:35,834 --> 01:13:37,800
- He told me
not to say anything.
1746
01:13:37,934 --> 01:13:40,033
He said, "I'll handle it
from now on,"
1747
01:13:40,166 --> 01:13:42,166
and that's exactly
what he did.
1748
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:46,400
When he came out, he said--he
told the press that was there,
1749
01:13:46,533 --> 01:13:48,867
he said, "That was nothing
but a weather balloon,
1750
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,567
crashed weather balloon."
1751
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:53,233
It was definitely not
a weather balloon,
1752
01:13:53,367 --> 01:13:57,567
and it was an aircraft,
so what it could have been,
1753
01:13:57,700 --> 01:13:59,166
I wouldn't know.
1754
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:02,533
I still don't know.
1755
01:14:02,667 --> 01:14:06,367
- Is there anything we can take
away from these clips here
1756
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:09,300
about whether he's being
deceptive or not?
1757
01:14:09,433 --> 01:14:10,967
- We're looking for
a few different things.
1758
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,266
Is he moving around too much?
Is he fidgeting?
1759
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,367
He held eye contact,
1760
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:17,266
he smiled at appropriate times,
1761
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,467
and he actually shook his head
up and down
1762
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,867
when he was saying
something in the affirmative,
1763
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,367
and he shook his head side
to side when he was saying,
1764
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:26,400
like, you know,
"I couldn't say anything,"
1765
01:14:26,533 --> 01:14:27,934
so those are signals of truth.
1766
01:14:28,066 --> 01:14:30,133
Those are signals
of congruency.
1767
01:14:30,266 --> 01:14:34,467
- So that tells you he believed
in what he was saying, right?
1768
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,767
- Right, he believed
what he was saying,
1769
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:38,567
but at the same time,
he's not really
1770
01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:40,133
saying anything specific.
1771
01:14:40,266 --> 01:14:41,433
At the end, he says,
1772
01:14:41,567 --> 01:14:42,934
"I don't even know
what I saw,"
1773
01:14:43,066 --> 01:14:44,133
which makes it easy for him
to be congruent.
1774
01:14:44,266 --> 01:14:45,700
- Of course.
1775
01:14:45,834 --> 01:14:47,800
♪ ♪
1776
01:14:47,934 --> 01:14:50,867
So Jesse has become
a bit of a lightning rod
1777
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,734
for the whole controversy
around the Roswell incident.
1778
01:14:52,867 --> 01:14:54,300
- Right.
- His family says
1779
01:14:54,433 --> 01:14:56,100
he was an honest man,
1780
01:14:56,233 --> 01:14:57,934
a man of duty,
and he's telling the truth.
1781
01:14:58,066 --> 01:15:01,266
- Right.
- The government says
1782
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,300
they don't know why
he's making these claims.
1783
01:15:03,433 --> 01:15:04,867
He's not telling the truth.
1784
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,834
[foreboding music]
1785
01:15:07,967 --> 01:15:09,600
♪ ♪
1786
01:15:09,734 --> 01:15:12,266
Fishburne: In its 1995
report, the Air Force
1787
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,200
cited a sworn affidavit
from Sheridan Cavitt.
1788
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:19,033
Cavitt was the special agent
for counterintelligence
1789
01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:23,100
who accompanied Marcel
to investigate the debris.
1790
01:15:23,233 --> 01:15:25,633
- As a CIC agent, he was in
a different chain of command,
1791
01:15:25,767 --> 01:15:27,467
but they were friends,
because nobody likes you
1792
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,266
if you're
a counterintelligence officer,
1793
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,166
and nobody likes you if you're
an intelligence officer.
1794
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:33,166
♪ ♪
1795
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,033
Fishburne: As the other
official on site,
1796
01:15:35,166 --> 01:15:37,500
Cavitt could have backed
Marcel's story
1797
01:15:37,633 --> 01:15:40,200
about strange wreckage
that littered a field
1798
01:15:40,333 --> 01:15:43,333
with nearly a mile of debris,
but he didn't.
1799
01:15:43,467 --> 01:15:45,667
♪ ♪
1800
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,600
- Cavitt, who was there
with him,
1801
01:15:47,734 --> 01:15:49,200
said there was not
much material there at all,
1802
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:51,033
which they recovered
most of it.
1803
01:15:51,166 --> 01:15:53,133
He said it was obvious to him
at the time
1804
01:15:53,266 --> 01:15:56,800
that the stuff they were
picking up was just crap,
1805
01:15:56,934 --> 01:15:59,200
just, you know,
for lack of a better term.
1806
01:15:59,333 --> 01:16:02,400
The fact was the material
that's depicted in the photos
1807
01:16:02,533 --> 01:16:06,200
was identified by Cavitt,
still alive in 1994,
1808
01:16:06,333 --> 01:16:09,433
as material he and Marcel
physically picked up
1809
01:16:09,567 --> 01:16:14,600
in the desert
on the farm in July of 1947.
1810
01:16:14,734 --> 01:16:17,033
♪ ♪
1811
01:16:17,166 --> 01:16:21,000
Fishburne: In his affidavit,
Sheridan Cavitt wrote,
1812
01:16:21,133 --> 01:16:25,066
"The amount of debris was very
small, about 20 square feet.
1813
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,333
"I remember recognizing
the material as consistent
1814
01:16:28,467 --> 01:16:30,000
"with a weather balloon,
1815
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:33,700
which would easily fit
into one vehicle."
1816
01:16:33,834 --> 01:16:37,166
- One thing I was certain of,
it was not a weather balloon
1817
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:38,834
nor an aircraft nor a missile.
1818
01:16:38,967 --> 01:16:40,333
It was something else,
1819
01:16:40,467 --> 01:16:42,667
which we didn't know
what it was.
1820
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,433
There were just fragments
strewn all over the area,
1821
01:16:45,567 --> 01:16:47,066
an area about
3/4 of a mile long
1822
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,433
and several hundred feet wide.
1823
01:16:49,567 --> 01:16:53,767
So we proceeded
to pick up the parts.
1824
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:55,333
Fishburne: So which
intelligence officer
1825
01:16:55,467 --> 01:16:56,934
was telling the truth:
1826
01:16:57,066 --> 01:17:00,300
Sheridan Cavitt
or Jesse Marcel?
1827
01:17:00,433 --> 01:17:02,834
♪ ♪
1828
01:17:02,967 --> 01:17:04,400
- We're looking for things
like fidgeting
1829
01:17:04,533 --> 01:17:06,900
or diverting attention.
1830
01:17:07,033 --> 01:17:08,800
I didn't see that with this,
and once again,
1831
01:17:08,934 --> 01:17:10,800
when he did make a fumble,
a verbal fumble,
1832
01:17:10,934 --> 01:17:12,233
he would autocorrect.
1833
01:17:12,367 --> 01:17:14,633
He did it consistently
and comfortably.
1834
01:17:14,767 --> 01:17:15,800
- Uh-huh.
1835
01:17:15,934 --> 01:17:17,467
In this next clip,
1836
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,000
he's going to describe the
materials that he discovered,
1837
01:17:20,133 --> 01:17:21,767
and this is a key part
of the investigation.
1838
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:25,300
Can we trust
his eyewitness account
1839
01:17:25,433 --> 01:17:27,000
about the actual debris
that he found?
1840
01:17:27,133 --> 01:17:28,000
- Okay.
1841
01:17:28,133 --> 01:17:32,000
♪ ♪
1842
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:34,667
- The thing about it
that got me is
1843
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,100
that you couldn't even
bend it.
1844
01:17:36,233 --> 01:17:37,900
You couldn't ben--dent it.
1845
01:17:38,033 --> 01:17:40,500
Even with a sledgehammer,
it would bounce off it,
1846
01:17:40,633 --> 01:17:43,300
so I knew that I had never
seen anything like that
1847
01:17:43,433 --> 01:17:45,567
before, and as of
right--as of now,
1848
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:47,333
I don't know what it was.
1849
01:17:47,467 --> 01:17:49,433
It was not anything
from this Earth,
1850
01:17:49,567 --> 01:17:51,233
that I'm quite sure of,
1851
01:17:51,367 --> 01:17:53,000
because I was--
being an intelligence officer,
1852
01:17:53,133 --> 01:17:54,834
I was familiar with
just about every--
1853
01:17:54,967 --> 01:17:59,400
all materials used in aircraft
and in air travel.
1854
01:17:59,533 --> 01:18:01,967
This was nothing like that.
It could not be.
1855
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:04,533
It could not have been.
1856
01:18:04,667 --> 01:18:06,233
- Do you see
any signs of deception?
1857
01:18:06,367 --> 01:18:08,900
- I don't see any signs
of deception in him,
1858
01:18:09,033 --> 01:18:10,667
in his own self-belief.
1859
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,400
- So he's not being willingly
deceptive to trick us all
1860
01:18:14,533 --> 01:18:16,533
into believing something
that isn't true.
1861
01:18:16,667 --> 01:18:18,000
He truly believes
what he's saying.
1862
01:18:18,133 --> 01:18:19,500
- I got the impression
1863
01:18:19,633 --> 01:18:22,700
that he truly believes
what he's saying.
1864
01:18:22,834 --> 01:18:25,400
Fishburne: Coming up, they
swore an oath to keep secrets,
1865
01:18:25,533 --> 01:18:28,734
but could the journal be the
biggest secret they shared,
1866
01:18:28,867 --> 01:18:31,867
the story of Roswell
written in code?
1867
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,300
♪ ♪
1868
01:18:38,934 --> 01:18:41,800
[dramatic music]
1869
01:18:41,934 --> 01:18:43,700
♪ ♪
1870
01:18:43,834 --> 01:18:46,600
[tense music]
1871
01:18:46,734 --> 01:18:49,633
♪ ♪
1872
01:18:49,767 --> 01:18:51,600
Fishburne: After analyzing
Marcel's body language
1873
01:18:51,734 --> 01:18:53,567
with expert Tonya Reiman,
1874
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:55,867
who sees no indication
of deceit...
1875
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,934
- He truly believes
what he's saying.
1876
01:18:58,066 --> 01:19:00,266
Fishburne: Ben Smith
heads to York College
1877
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,767
in Pennsylvania to see
if cryptologist Craig Bauer
1878
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:07,500
has made progress
deciphering the journal.
1879
01:19:07,633 --> 01:19:09,934
With Smith
is Jesse Marcel's grandson,
1880
01:19:10,066 --> 01:19:11,467
who is just as eager to know
1881
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,867
what the writing
in the journal means.
1882
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,767
♪ ♪
1883
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:17,100
- Do you think that there
would have been any reason
1884
01:19:17,233 --> 01:19:19,667
why another intelligence
officer on base
1885
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,700
would have wanted
to give him information
1886
01:19:21,834 --> 01:19:25,433
that would have been
somewhat coded in some way?
1887
01:19:25,567 --> 01:19:28,867
- I think if your grandfather
is making claims
1888
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,200
that someone else believes...
- Yes.
1889
01:19:32,333 --> 01:19:36,367
- Or someone else
had the same experience
1890
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:38,166
but for whatever reason,
1891
01:19:38,300 --> 01:19:40,500
they feel afraid
of openly speaking out...
1892
01:19:40,633 --> 01:19:42,467
- Sure.
- They might capture that
1893
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,967
in--in a code and give it
to your grandfather.
1894
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,834
- I would like to believe
that what we find in there
1895
01:19:48,967 --> 01:19:51,800
is going to be something
significant enough
1896
01:19:51,934 --> 01:19:54,533
that it makes it irrefutable
1897
01:19:54,667 --> 01:19:57,266
that what my father
and grandfather believed in
1898
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,934
was something that wasn't--was
truly not made by human hands.
1899
01:20:01,066 --> 01:20:03,300
Fishburne: Craig Bauer has
devised a customized program
1900
01:20:03,433 --> 01:20:05,700
to try and crack whatever code
1901
01:20:05,834 --> 01:20:07,500
might be hiding
in the journal.
1902
01:20:07,633 --> 01:20:10,600
♪ ♪
1903
01:20:10,734 --> 01:20:12,166
- Knock, knock.
1904
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:13,467
♪ ♪
1905
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,000
- Hey, Ben.
Good to see you again.
1906
01:20:15,133 --> 01:20:16,367
- Yeah, you too. How are you?
- Good.
1907
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:17,867
You must be Jesse.
- Jesse Marcel.
1908
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,767
I'm Craig.
- Craig, nice to meet you.
1909
01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:22,200
- Jack is one of our best math
and computer science majors.
1910
01:20:22,333 --> 01:20:23,467
- Oh, great.
- Nice to see you again.
1911
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,367
- Nice to see you again.
- Yeah.
1912
01:20:24,500 --> 01:20:25,967
- So we've been studying
1913
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:27,700
your grandfather's journal.
1914
01:20:27,834 --> 01:20:30,467
The first really interesting
thing we noticed...
1915
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,500
- Okay.
- Was, you know,
1916
01:20:33,633 --> 01:20:36,700
sort of weird ways
of writing letters.
1917
01:20:36,834 --> 01:20:39,800
Like, he has a capital L
in the middle of a word.
1918
01:20:39,934 --> 01:20:41,133
- Okay.
- And it's not like
1919
01:20:41,266 --> 01:20:42,600
the whole thing
is in uppercase.
1920
01:20:42,734 --> 01:20:44,934
It's just randomly a capital L.
1921
01:20:45,066 --> 01:20:47,100
You can see in the line above,
he's using lowercase Ls
1922
01:20:47,233 --> 01:20:48,600
in "little girl."
1923
01:20:48,734 --> 01:20:49,967
- I can see your point.
1924
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:51,500
- We started to see these
different forms,
1925
01:20:51,633 --> 01:20:53,433
so I asked Jack
to prepare this table,
1926
01:20:53,567 --> 01:20:55,133
and I was thrilled
with this result.
1927
01:20:55,266 --> 01:20:57,000
- Uh-huh.
- We have two forms
1928
01:20:57,133 --> 01:21:00,367
of every letter
that appears more than once.
1929
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:05,367
You can see a K where it's two
separate pieces and together.
1930
01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:06,600
- Oh, wow. Yeah.
- Up at the top right,
1931
01:21:06,734 --> 01:21:08,066
you can see an O and an O
1932
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,367
that's filled in
like a solid circle,
1933
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:11,600
a P with a loop,
1934
01:21:11,734 --> 01:21:13,033
a P without a loop.
1935
01:21:13,166 --> 01:21:15,200
So this really intrigued us.
1936
01:21:15,333 --> 01:21:16,600
To a cryptographer,
1937
01:21:16,734 --> 01:21:18,767
this indicates
a certain kind of cipher.
1938
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:21,200
- It does?
- Yes.
1939
01:21:21,333 --> 01:21:22,867
If you have two different
versions of a letter,
1940
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,934
you know, we can call them
and say, zero and one.
1941
01:21:25,066 --> 01:21:26,333
- Sure.
1942
01:21:26,467 --> 01:21:27,867
- So you have
an apparent message,
1943
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,200
but really it's spelling
something out in binary.
1944
01:21:30,333 --> 01:21:31,734
- Binary, it's--
okay, it's that simple.
1945
01:21:31,867 --> 01:21:33,400
- Yeah, yeah.
1946
01:21:33,533 --> 01:21:34,767
There's a system that uses
that kind of approach.
1947
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:36,100
- Okay.
1948
01:21:36,233 --> 01:21:38,900
- This made us very hopeful,
and we--
1949
01:21:39,033 --> 01:21:41,400
- You got my heart going,
I'll say that much.
1950
01:21:41,533 --> 01:21:43,934
- But there is some bad news.
1951
01:21:44,066 --> 01:21:46,266
♪ ♪
1952
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,500
If somebody is implementing
a biliteral cipher,
1953
01:21:48,633 --> 01:21:52,000
that person has to be
very careful to stick to one
1954
01:21:52,133 --> 01:21:54,934
or the other form
and make it clear which it is.
1955
01:21:55,066 --> 01:21:57,600
- That makes sense.
- Go ahead and show 'em.
1956
01:21:57,734 --> 01:22:01,567
- Oh, okay.
- This is the real result.
1957
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:05,100
We found, in many instances,
three forms of a letter,
1958
01:22:05,233 --> 01:22:07,133
and this is a big problem.
1959
01:22:07,266 --> 01:22:08,633
- This would throw
everything off.
1960
01:22:08,767 --> 01:22:11,233
- Yeah, so this was
kind of frustrating,
1961
01:22:11,367 --> 01:22:14,400
and the result was that we had
to run our program again
1962
01:22:14,533 --> 01:22:16,300
and again and again
1963
01:22:16,433 --> 01:22:18,400
with different assumptions,
with different assignments
1964
01:22:18,533 --> 01:22:21,433
for some of these third
characters, these third forms.
1965
01:22:21,567 --> 01:22:23,066
Our government has poured
1966
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,166
so much money into
the development of computers
1967
01:22:25,300 --> 01:22:26,967
because it needed them
for code breaking.
1968
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:29,400
This is why computers
were developed.
1969
01:22:29,533 --> 01:22:31,100
You could go through
a lot of combinations by hand.
1970
01:22:31,233 --> 01:22:34,266
67 million, no, okay?
1971
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,734
But we have computers because
of this need to break ciphers,
1972
01:22:38,867 --> 01:22:41,467
and this is how we're going
to apply them in this journal.
1973
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,834
We had to write
a computer program
1974
01:22:42,967 --> 01:22:44,500
to just test
all the possibilities.
1975
01:22:44,633 --> 01:22:46,633
We tested our program
on little pieces,
1976
01:22:46,767 --> 01:22:48,600
little sections of the journal.
1977
01:22:48,734 --> 01:22:50,633
Why don't we show them
a typical result?
1978
01:22:50,767 --> 01:22:53,166
Maybe just the very first
passage that was printed,
1979
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:54,633
about Jonah.
1980
01:22:54,767 --> 01:22:57,567
♪ ♪
1981
01:22:57,700 --> 01:22:59,100
Here's the original quote.
1982
01:22:59,233 --> 01:23:01,233
"When down in the mouth,
remember Jonah.
1983
01:23:01,367 --> 01:23:03,133
He came out all right."
- Okay, sure.
1984
01:23:03,266 --> 01:23:04,900
♪ ♪
1985
01:23:05,033 --> 01:23:07,867
- The program just takes
a few minutes.
1986
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,233
We get things like this.
"A web."
1987
01:23:10,367 --> 01:23:12,333
- Okay.
- And then the asterisk means
1988
01:23:12,467 --> 01:23:13,834
we got a string of As and Bs
1989
01:23:13,967 --> 01:23:15,633
that does not correspond
to a letter.
1990
01:23:15,767 --> 01:23:17,400
That's a bad sign,
1991
01:23:17,533 --> 01:23:19,300
to get one that doesn't
even map to a letter.
1992
01:23:19,433 --> 01:23:21,133
- Okay.
- Every so often,
1993
01:23:21,266 --> 01:23:23,667
you can pick out
a word here or there.
1994
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,700
I think you got McArthur
at one point,
1995
01:23:26,834 --> 01:23:28,233
so we were kind of
checking the timing.
1996
01:23:28,367 --> 01:23:29,667
Would he have been
writing about McArthur?
1997
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,734
But on run after run,
1998
01:23:32,867 --> 01:23:34,333
we're just periodically
getting words
1999
01:23:34,467 --> 01:23:36,800
but never a complete sentence,
never anything
2000
01:23:36,934 --> 01:23:38,734
that looks like it couldn't
have arisen by chance.
2001
01:23:38,867 --> 01:23:40,200
- Okay. Sure.
2002
01:23:40,333 --> 01:23:42,233
- Nothing meaningful.
- Right. Right.
2003
01:23:42,367 --> 01:23:44,000
♪ ♪
2004
01:23:44,133 --> 01:23:46,467
- I mean, I guess
there's a ray of hope.
2005
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,033
We can't conclude that there's
not something hidden there.
2006
01:23:49,166 --> 01:23:50,500
- Okay.
- We can conclude
2007
01:23:50,633 --> 01:23:52,166
that there's not something
hidden there
2008
01:23:52,300 --> 01:23:54,033
with a straightforward
biliteral cipher.
2009
01:23:54,166 --> 01:23:56,300
- Okay.
- But there are many ways
2010
01:23:56,433 --> 01:23:58,533
to hide a message.
2011
01:23:58,667 --> 01:24:00,567
We still don't have
a good explanation
2012
01:24:00,700 --> 01:24:01,900
for why you would have
an uppercase L
2013
01:24:02,033 --> 01:24:03,467
in the middle of a word
2014
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,133
or, you know,
these strange different forms.
2015
01:24:05,266 --> 01:24:06,467
- Yeah.
2016
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,266
- So there could well be
something there.
2017
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,867
- You know, the 509th bomb
group where Jesse worked
2018
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,867
was a pretty unique place.
2019
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,633
They had a lot of need
2020
01:24:16,767 --> 01:24:20,367
to communicate sensitive
information to each other.
2021
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:24,133
Is it possible that a group
like the 509th
2022
01:24:24,266 --> 01:24:28,100
could communicate in a cipher
that only they knew about?
2023
01:24:28,233 --> 01:24:30,567
- Oh, yeah, I think they could
do that pretty easily.
2024
01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:34,033
There are a lot
of homebrew systems.
2025
01:24:34,166 --> 01:24:35,767
You know, to make up
a little cipher system
2026
01:24:35,900 --> 01:24:38,800
that you're just gonna
exchange a few messages,
2027
01:24:38,934 --> 01:24:41,433
it's not that hard to make it
really hard to break.
2028
01:24:41,567 --> 01:24:43,533
- Uh-huh.
2029
01:24:43,667 --> 01:24:45,300
I have a lot of faith
that there's something here.
2030
01:24:45,433 --> 01:24:47,033
♪ ♪
2031
01:24:47,166 --> 01:24:49,367
My grandfather would have
wanted to leave some kind
2032
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:51,400
of message behind, something.
2033
01:24:51,533 --> 01:24:53,233
He always said that you could
2034
01:24:53,367 --> 01:24:55,200
always believe that there were
people that were involved,
2035
01:24:55,333 --> 01:24:58,133
so maybe this is one of the
other people that was involved
2036
01:24:58,266 --> 01:25:01,000
and some way
of getting him a message.
2037
01:25:01,133 --> 01:25:02,533
We need to go find out
who wrote this.
2038
01:25:02,667 --> 01:25:03,600
- Yeah.
2039
01:25:03,734 --> 01:25:06,433
♪ ♪
2040
01:25:06,567 --> 01:25:09,934
Fishburne: Next on "Roswell:
The First Witness"...
2041
01:25:10,066 --> 01:25:11,700
- He told me,
2042
01:25:11,834 --> 01:25:14,433
"Don't believe everything
the government tells you."
2043
01:25:14,567 --> 01:25:16,433
Fishburne: What did
Jesse Marcel say in private
2044
01:25:16,567 --> 01:25:18,100
that he never said in public?
2045
01:25:18,233 --> 01:25:20,000
- He said there are things
2046
01:25:20,133 --> 01:25:22,700
that this world
is not ready for.
2047
01:25:22,834 --> 01:25:25,200
Fishburne: He confessed to her
there was more,
2048
01:25:25,333 --> 01:25:27,033
so much more
he could have said.
2049
01:25:27,166 --> 01:25:33,867
♪ ♪
2050
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,700
Fishburne: Did Marcel
hide a piece
2051
01:25:39,834 --> 01:25:41,467
of what he found at home?
2052
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,533
- Jesse said he had proof.
2053
01:25:43,667 --> 01:25:46,500
- There could be some
debris left around.
2054
01:25:46,633 --> 01:25:48,967
Fishburne: Is the proof still
buried in the ground?
2055
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:51,166
- Right there.
2056
01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:54,133
It's something that doesn't
make sense to me.
2057
01:25:54,266 --> 01:25:56,433
- Have you ever seen
that in a--in a wreck?
2058
01:25:56,567 --> 01:25:58,567
- No. There's something
under the ground there.
2059
01:25:58,700 --> 01:26:01,600
Fishburne: She says her father
staged a cover-up...
2060
01:26:01,734 --> 01:26:04,900
- And he also destroyed files.
- Or changed them.
2061
01:26:05,033 --> 01:26:07,934
Fishburne: Even though he knew
Jesse Marcel was right.
2062
01:26:08,066 --> 01:26:10,367
- He said that the world
wasn't ready to know
2063
01:26:10,500 --> 01:26:12,734
the truth about
what happened at Roswell.
2064
01:26:12,867 --> 01:26:14,734
♪ ♪
2065
01:26:14,867 --> 01:26:16,300
Fishburne: He didn't write
the journal,
2066
01:26:16,433 --> 01:26:20,200
but did he share its secrets
with this man who could have?
2067
01:26:20,333 --> 01:26:21,867
I'm Laurence Fishburne,
2068
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,266
Thanks for watching
"History's Greatest Mysteries".
2069
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:31,266
Next time, our conclusion to
"Roswell: The First Witness".
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