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You only had to hear three notes
and you knew it was her.
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That's a great thing about a singer.
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# The look of love
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# Is in... #
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Part of her attraction was that
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she was a white girl who could sing
that fabulous black R'n'B music.
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Because that's what I loved.
That, to me, was yes! Yes!
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And that was what girl power
was in the 60s.
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# The only one who could
ever reach me
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# Was the son of a preacher man
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# The only boy... #
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I think Dusty does sum up
the fabness of the 60s
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with her voice and with the hairdo.
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The kind of bouffant hairdo.
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And, of course, the trademark
eye make-up made her very iconic.
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# I think I'm going back... #
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There was a vulnerability
about her voice
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and her personality
which attracted me to her.
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I think that's what
attracts the public
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to great singers and personalities
from show business,
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is their vulnerability.
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They're waiting for them
to crack open at any second.
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# Dusty Springfield
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# That's a pretty name,
it even sounds like a game
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# In a green field
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# Hobby horses play the dusty game
when it's May
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# Pink and paisley skies
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# Shining in green eyes,
a magic pinwheel
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# London flowers fair
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# Blooming in her hair
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# Dusty Springfield. #
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APPLAUSE
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Thank you very much.
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# When I said I needed you
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# You said you would always stay
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# It wasn't me who changed but you
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# And now you're far away
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# Don't you see that now you've gone
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# And I'm left here on my own... #
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Since the death of
Dusty Springfield in March 1999,
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just short of her 60th birthday,
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fans and musicians have
continued to celebrate
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one of Britain's
greatest ever singers.
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# You don't have to say
you love me... #
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Born Mary Isobel Catherine O'Brien
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to Anglo-Irish-Scottish parents,
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she became the original
60s Brit girl,
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the so-called "white negress,"
a gay icon, a diva.
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# ..Till I do,
all I see is you... #
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Over a career spanning four decades,
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Dusty's glamorous image was to be
as much her hallmark as her voice.
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But it masked
a deeply private person.
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Dusty herself was torn between
two characters -
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Mary O'Brien, the plain,
insecure redhead,
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and Dusty Springfield,
the star she created.
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A household name, she both
invited attention and shunned it.
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This is the story of the Dusty
we thought we knew.
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# You don't have to say you love me
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# Just be close at hand
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# You don't have to stay for ever
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# I will understand
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# Believe me
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# Believe me
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# You don't have to say
you love me... #
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I have a theme song. It's Oh, Lord,
Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.
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I'm the most misquoted and
misunderstood person I know. Honest.
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# Here she comes,
here she comes... #
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Dusty hated work. She hated singing,
she hated performing.
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Motivation was money.
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It was a means to an end.
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It was the only thing she could
think of to do to make any money,
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and so she had to sing.
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# See all her faces... #
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I think she sang because
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she needed to be loved
for who she was.
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And she was never sure.
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She didn't trust herself
and she didn't trust anybody
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and she never trusted her ability to
sing and to move and to touch people.
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# ..I'm looking for someone
of the gentle kind
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# Knowing that looks can lie... #
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Basically, she was very shy.
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On stage, I don't know
what happened to her because
she became another person.
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Before she went on she'd go red all
the way down here with sheer panic.
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She couldn't find things, she'd be
nervous, she'd be tripping over.
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"Is this right? Is that right?"
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She'd go on and there was the star.
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# Look at her now
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# She needs love so much more,
so much... #
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She used to call them somebody else.
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Dusty was Dusty Springfield
and she was Mary O'Brien.
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There was two people.
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I mean, she transformed. As soon
as the fingernails went on and
the hair was done, that was Dusty.
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She became Dusty then.
She was two people.
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# ..See all her faces
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# See all her faces... #
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At 13, I was pure St Trinian's.
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The hockey sticks, the works, round
glasses, Panama hat, a disaster area.
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And then, I guess
it was really an overnight thing,
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that I decided I must change.
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I realised this person looking at me
in the mirror would not make it.
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I decided I wanted to be someone
else so I became someone else.
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Now I'm trying to find the other one.
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# ..See all her faces... #
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# All together, girls,
one, two, three... #
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Dusty shocked the nuns by saying
she wanted to be a blues singer.
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After playing the London folk clubs
with her brother Tom,
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the 19-year-old Dusty joined vocal
harmony trio The Lana Sisters.
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# Did you really
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# Mighty colour of the moonlight
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# Let my baby know I miss him
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# Let him know
I long to kiss him... #
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# Silver threads and golden needles
Cannot mend this heart... #
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In 1960, Dusty rejoined her brother
Tom to form The Springfields.
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Third member, Tim Field was replaced
the following year by Mike Hurst,
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in time for their biggest
British hit, Island Of Dreams.
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# I wander the streets
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# And the gay crowded places
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# Trying to forget you
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# But somehow it seems
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# That my thoughts ever stray... #
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I was aware immediately
how great her voice was
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compared to the other
female singers of the day.
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1962-63. The quality
of her voice was unique.
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# ..High in the sky
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# Is a bird on the wing
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# Please carry me with you... #
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Smile. That was the whole thing.
Tom used to say it all the time,
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"Just smile."
And he hated it anyway.
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He had this sort of fixed smile
on his face which never left him.
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So that's the way it was.
It was very, very MOR, very cabaret.
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That isn't what Dusty wanted.
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# Sing a little song
that you can't resist
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# Que bonita maraca bamba
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# Maraca bamba
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# Round and round inside your brain
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# Que bonita maraca bamba
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# Hey, maraca bamba
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# Well, now, we're gonna sing again
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# Que bonita maraca bamba
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# Bamba, bamba! #
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# Get ready cos here I come
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# I'm on my way
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# Get ready cos here I come
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# Get ready cos here I come
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# Get ready cos here I come
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# I'm on my way
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# Get ready cos here I come
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# Get ready cos here I come. #
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# I don't know what it is
that makes me love you so
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# I only know
I never wanna let you go
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# Cos you've started something,
oh, can't you see
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# That ever since we met
you've had a hold on me
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# It happens to be true
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# I only wanna be with you
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# Yeah
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# It doesn't matter where you go
or what you do
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# I wanna spend each moment
of the day with you... #
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Dusty the solo singer
burst onto the scene in 1963
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and was an immediate success.
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But her rise to stardom
was not without difficulty.
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# ..I only wanna be with you,
yeah. #
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# You stopped and smiled at me
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# Asked if I care to dance... #
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DUSTY: She's somebody else.
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Basically, I'm quite a shy person to
take on the mantle of a performer.
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It's not an easy act.
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She had to go on stage
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and be this big, strong woman
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who had so much power and could
captivate thousands of people.
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But when she went home,
she was that scared little girl
cos that's what she was.
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I identified with her
in that situation.
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She was very insecure about
the way she looked.
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She had great self-doubt. But that
sometimes makes a great artist.
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People think of, you know, the
glamorous Dusty that they saw on TV
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but that wasn't probably
the real her.
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# Why don't you stop
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Stop
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# And look me over
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Me over
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# Am I the same girl
you used to know...? #
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I think she saw Dusty Springfield
as a creation
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in many ways.
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And a creation that took
a long time to dress up in.
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Getting ready to be Dusty took hours.
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She would have looked great
in half an hour, I'm sure.
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But her insecurities were in charge.
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And maybe a bit of obsessiveness too.
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# Am I the same girl?
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# Yes I am, yes I am... #
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She really went through it
to be beautiful.
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Because she was small,
she was only 5' 3".
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So to have to wear high heels
but not too high because
she didn't want to look stupid
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and this hair, and people said
"Does she take her make-up off?"
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To my knowledge, she kept
the black on. She'd blot it.
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But she would keep it on
and she could hide behind that.
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I find it an effort
to keep up appearances.
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Cos it takes so long.
I'd rather be asleep.
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It's very hard to describe oneself
anyway because you don't see...
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I'm very short-sighted so I'm
constantly peering in mirrors.
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And people say, "God, isn't she
conceited!" and I can't see anything.
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I can look in a mirror and I can't
see how much eye black I've got on.
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I just know I've got a lot on.
I can't see the ends of my fingers.
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She couldn't see people until
they were really close up to her
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which, she said, was an advantage
because she was so insecure
of having to deal with people.
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One of her... One of my
favourite of her expressions:
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"Never let yourself be
too get-at-able."
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And she said, "Being in my position,
being so short-sighted,
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"it means people have to come close
in order for me to recognise them.
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"If they're over there,
I don't have to speak to them -
I can't see them."
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Her and Sandie Shaw were the two
blindest pop singers of the 60s.
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Sandie Shaw was known for being
barefoot, she should have been
known for being partially blind.
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Poor thing. But Dusty did use
the make-up as a bit of a mask.
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Everything was all part of a mask.
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# ..Bailando con mi amigo
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# Aqui todos ven por aqui
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# Chicos y chicas
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# Ven a bailar
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# El baile... #
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# Let's take a trip in a trailer
No need to come back... #
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With this transformation
to glamorous star complete,
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Dusty had a string of hits
in the 60s and hosted a TV show.
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# When I throw my arms out wide
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# I find that you're not
by my side... #
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She seemed to be able
to sing anything whilst remaining
distinctively Dusty.
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# ..all I see is you. #
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# Everybody, have you heard
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# Gonna buy me a mockingbird
Mockingbird
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# If that mockingbird don't sing
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# If that mockingbird don't sing
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# Gonna buy me
a diamond ring... #
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She was a great pop singer,
a great soul singer,
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a great ballad singer,
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a great folk singer,
a great jazz singer.
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She was so good
at so many different things.
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I trusted what she sang.
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It didn't make any difference if,
once in a while, the note
was a bit sharp or a bit flat.
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They were jewels.
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# The look of love
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# Is in your eyes
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# A look your heart can't disguise
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# The look... #
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I love the way Dusty sang The Look
Of Love. It was smoky. It was sexy.
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It was restrained.
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It was held in check
but underneath it was smouldering.
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It was just on fire.
246
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Just so much romance and passion
and coolness to her, you know.
247
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# ..well, it takes my breath away
248
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# I can hardly wait to hold you
249
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# Feel my arms around you
250
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# How long I have waited
251
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# Waited just to love you
252
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# Now that I have found you
253
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# Don't ever go... #
254
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When she sang one of those breathy
songs, it was like a reed instrument.
255
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And it was such a fragile sound.
256
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But then she was capable of
soaring above a great R'n'B song
and being so powerful,
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you almost wouldn't believe
it was the same woman.
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# Gonna build a mountain
259
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# Gonna build a mountain
260
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# Least I know I will
261
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# I hope I will
262
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# Gonna build a mountain
263
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# Gonna build a mountain
264
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# Gonna build it so high
265
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# I don't know how
I'm gonna build it
266
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# All I know I'm gonna try
267
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# Gonna build a mountain
268
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# Gonna build a mountain... #
269
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Dubbed the queen of blue-eyed soul,
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Dusty was often assumed to be black
271
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by those who had heard
but not seen her.
272
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She sometimes admitted
to feeling like an impostor.
273
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But, with a few exceptions,
black musicians respected her.
274
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She was a tireless promoter
of black music,
275
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whether hosting Ready Steady Go,
or covering soul on her own show.
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# Higher and higher
# Yeah, higher and higher
277
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# Higher and higher
# Oh, higher and higher
278
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# Higher and higher
# Just build a mountain
279
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# Higher and higher
# Yeah
280
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# Higher and higher
# Gonna build it
281
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# Higher and higher
# Yeah... #
282
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Well, I think she was...
283
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If you scraped off the Irish
284
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Mary Isobel Catherine
Bernadette O'Brien,
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she was black underneath.
286
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# Get ready cos here I come
287
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# If you wanna play hide and seek
with love, let me remind you
288
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# You're all right
289
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# All the lovin' you're gonna miss
in the time it takes to find you... #
290
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Before Dusty, British female singers
were still in the 50s.
291
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Dusty changed it virtually overnight.
292
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Suddenly she made records sounding
like they were made in America.
293
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She was singing like an American.
294
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But it didn't sound like an
impression. It was the real thing.
295
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# Get ready, here I come
296
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# Get ready cos here I come... #
297
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Britain suddenly had a soul singer.
298
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People forget that
when you say, "soul singer,"
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you don't mean the person is black,
you just mean they sing from there.
300
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Soul singers don't have a colour.
301
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Everybody knows that Dusty
was mesmerised by black singers.
302
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She just loved the Martha Reeves and
Aretha Franklins and Dionne Warwicks
303
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and there is a tremendously
soulful spiritual feeling
304
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even though she wasn't raised in a
Baptist church shaking a tambourine.
305
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# Calling out around the world
306
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# Are you ready for
a brand new beat?
307
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# Yeah
308
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# Summer's here and the time
is right for dancing in the street
309
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# They're dancing in Chicago
310
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# Down in New Orleans
311
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# In New York City
312
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# All is you need is music
313
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# Sweet music
314
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# There'll be music everywhere
315
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,040
# They'll be swinging and swaying
and records playing
316
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# And dancing in the street... #
317
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There were other ladies who embraced
our music and did cover versions -
318
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Cilla Black, Petula Clark and Lulu -
that I can remember doing our songs.
319
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However, Dusty was the one
who got into the music and did cover
versions and glorified the music.
320
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She was in awe of us
and we were in awe of her.
321
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# Like a heatwave
322
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# Burning in my heart
323
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# Heatwave
324
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# I can't keep from crying
325
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# Heatwave
326
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# It's tearing me apart... #
327
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I come from a white bread
English family
328
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who were brought up on Gilbert
and Sullivan and South Pacific
329
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and I'd never heard a black singer
and Dusty was playing me these
black soul records and I loved them.
330
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So over the course of Ready Steady,
I could book who I wanted
331
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so I'd book Otis Reading, Ike and
Tina Turner, James Brown and Motown.
332
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We would play their records and none
of them had been to England and they
put together a Motown review.
333
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We had a special and Dusty hosted it.
334
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# Wishin' and hopin'
and thinkin' and prayin'... #
335
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MARTHA REEVES: She welcomed Smokey,
and the Supremes weren't known then.
336
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:48,080
The Temptations with My Girl -
they were the stars of the show.
337
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,400
Stevie Wonder did Fingertips
and we did a great show.
338
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The thrill of it all
was singing the duet with Dusty.
339
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Wishin' and Hopin'.
I think our voices blended so well.
340
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,720
That was really a thrill.
And we were friends since then.
341
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,120
Dusty was cast as a hero
of the anti-apartheid movement
342
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when her 1964 tour to South Africa
provoked a political storm.
343
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,360
Her contract stated she would play
only to mixed audiences.
344
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Confronted with a sea of all-white
faces at a concert, Dusty rebelled.
345
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She was forced to abandon the tour
and return home.
346
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,680
Why did you have the anti-apartheid
clause written into your contract?
347
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680
Do you feel strongly politically
about this?
348
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,040
No, I don't know the first thing
about politics.
349
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,720
All I know is that if...
I think anybody,
350
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if they want to buy a ticket,
should be allowed to do so.
351
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This was the agreement I went under.
352
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,960
Why was your contract different
to previous ones?
353
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,960
I may be wrong about this,
354
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560
but I think most British artists
355
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that have been there before
356
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have played one or two
357
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segregated concerts
358
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and I didn't want to do it.
359
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# Can I get a witness?
360
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,520
# I want a witness
361
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,480
# Witness, witness
362
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,160
# Witness, witness
363
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,600
# Everybody knows
364
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040
# Especially you, boy... #
365
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,600
Dusty was not to become known
for her politics
366
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800
but the South African incident
367
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,640
underlined her emerging reputation
as a hell raiser.
368
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,680
Her hot temper and sense of humour
meant trouble followed her around.
369
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,880
Dusty's outsider status was fuelled
by rumours about her sexuality
370
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,080
which were countered with
carefully managed publicity
371
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240
that presented her both as straight
and forever on the verge of romance.
372
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,440
The flip side was a punishing
schedule of touring and recording.
373
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,680
From the early days, she suffered
from nervous exhaustion.
374
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,760
Her workload was increased
by her hands-on approach.
375
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,600
I would see Dusty
actually take charge
376
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,640
and people weren't always happy she
was adamant about what she wanted.
377
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,000
I've kind of got
a bit more like that now.
378
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,000
But I admired that and I loved
that... I saw it as feistiness.
379
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,760
It was hard, no doubt about it,
because she's extremely musical
380
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:14,400
and knew sounds and knew
what she wanted on her records
and was influenced by America.
381
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:21,840
So she felt strongly that she wanted
certain sounds that English
musicians perhaps hadn't played,
382
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:29,560
arrangers hadn't thought about and
she was constantly playing records
saying, "This is what we want."
383
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,840
# I close my eyes
384
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960
# And count to ten
385
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,280
# And when I open them
you're still here... #
386
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,720
She would like the bass player
to use his fingers,
387
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,480
because that's what she'd seen
in America.
388
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,520
Things that don't mean anything to
most people were important to her.
389
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,400
But she brought them over to the UK.
390
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,040
A lot of musicians didn't like that.
But she knew what she wanted.
391
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,360
# You don't own me
392
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:08,680
# I'm not just one of your many toys
393
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840
# You don't own me... #
394
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,480
People never give women credit
for knowing that they can get it.
395
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,440
And Dusty did and in fairness Johnny
France, the producer, was excellent.
396
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:29,080
He was older and he was more than
happy to sit back, put his feet up
and let her get on with it.
397
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,480
# Don't tell me what to do
398
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,040
# And don't tell me what to say... #
399
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,800
When you think about it,
in the early 60s and mid-60s,
400
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,240
it was very male dominated.
401
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,000
So for this so-called "star"
to come along,
402
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,680
female, telling us what to do,
403
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440
it wasn't really accepted.
404
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,480
But that's why she got
the reputation and she used to say,
405
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,440
When a man stands his ground,
it's, "Yeah, he stood his ground,"
406
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,840
but when a woman stands her
ground, she's a B-I-T-C-H.
407
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,040
My first consciousness of Dusty
Springfield was driving to work
408
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,560
one day in 1965 from Long Island
409
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,320
into our Atlantic Records office
in Manhattan.
410
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,760
And I had the radio on, of course,
and here comes this beautiful voice,
411
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,080
and I hadn't heard it before.
412
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760
And it was mesmerising.
413
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,400
The song I heard on the radio
that day was Some Of Your Lovin'.
414
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,840
Her voice really struck me and I
knew this was somebody very special.
415
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:01,920
# I know a man likes to feel
that he's been around
416
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,360
# Before he decides to settle down
417
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:14,600
# I've no doubt, some day,
you're gonna feel that way too
418
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:21,280
# But, baby, just remember,
until you do
419
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,600
# You gotta give me some,
give me some of your lovin'
420
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,560
# You gotta give me some
of your lovin'
421
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,880
# Now I'm not a greedy girl
422
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120
# I don't need the world
423
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,560
# Give me some of your lovin'
424
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080
# Oh, some of your lovin'
# Some
425
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080
# Oh-oh-oh-oh... #
426
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,680
Attracted by Jerry Wexler's work
427
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,720
with artists like Ray Charles
and Aretha Franklin,
428
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,120
Dusty teamed up with the legendary
producer to make her next album,
429
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,160
the classic Dusty In Memphis.
430
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200
But it was to be a rocky road.
431
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,440
So we scheduled for American Studios
in Memphis. The band was brilliant.
432
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,880
But, to my dismay, Dusty
absolutely would not sing a note.
433
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,080
I don't know how many days we spent
in Memphis. Probably about two weeks.
434
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,920
She just wouldn't sing.
435
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Jerry's said I'm the most insecure
singer he's ever come across,
436
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960
and at that time,
he was quite right.
437
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120
What he didn't realise
was how intimidated I was.
438
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,920
They were telling stories
and talking about Aretha
439
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880
and I'm going,
"Why are they recording me?"
440
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,720
And that showed in the time it took
to get performances out of me.
441
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,920
We ended up in New York
in a hired studio on 57th Street
442
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960
and that's where we did the vocals.
443
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:20,000
And there were just Arif, Tom Dowd
and myself in there to work with her.
444
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,040
And er... There was one...
445
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,680
During one song,
I had to duck a flying ashtray!
446
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,880
I haven't told that before.
I don't think I put it down!
447
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,040
Dusty had the stigmata
of perfectibility.
448
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,960
So when she did perform,
449
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,600
she was afraid to let it go
because her standards were so high
450
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,640
and it might not come out right.
451
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,440
# Just a little loving
452
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,040
# Early in the morning... #
453
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960
DUSTY: There was an element in me
454
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,000
that always...often thought
I was a sham anyway.
455
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,840
It took a lot to break that down,
456
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280
that critic in me.
457
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,320
And they did it.
They got it out of me somehow.
458
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,560
# I don't wanna hear it anymore
459
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000
# I don't wanna hear it... #
460
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,840
She contravened all the
received and perceived notions
of how to do a vocal.
461
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Because the band has finished
and she has earphones on
462
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,120
and Dusty kept calling
for more track, more track
463
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,160
and finally it reached the point,
I couldn't believe it,
464
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,920
she's doing a vocal and says, "More
track, I can still hear myself."
465
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Imagine. She wanted so much track
466
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,080
that she couldn't hear the vocal
that she was projecting at the time.
467
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,920
I can't imagine how she did it,
468
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,960
how she stayed in tune,
stayed in time,
469
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,800
and sang with Dusty's personality
and created these marvellous vocals.
470
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640
# Billy Ray was a preacher's son
471
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,080
# And when his daddy would visit,
he'd come along
472
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800
# When they'd gather round
and started talking
473
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,560
# That's when Billy
would take me walking
474
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240
# A-through the back yard
we'd go walking
475
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000
# Then he looked into my eyes
476
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440
# Lord knows to my surprise
477
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,440
# The only one
who could ever reach me
478
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,880
# Was the son of a preacher man
479
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,720
# The only boy
who could ever teach me
480
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840
# Was the son of a preacher man
481
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,640
# Yes, he was, he was
482
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080
# Oh, yes, he was... #
483
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,280
If you'd left it to her,
484
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,920
I don't think half her material
would have been released.
485
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,120
She was always striving to be better
and saying,
486
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,160
"I'd like to have sung
that like Aretha sung it."
487
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Her own stuff was never good enough.
488
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,040
She always came away going,
"I could have done that better."
489
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:13,280
# You've been crying,
your face is a mess
490
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:20,040
# Come here, baby,
you can dry the tears on my dress
491
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:27,000
# She's hurt you again, I can tell
492
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,480
# Oh, I know that look so well
493
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,320
# Don't be shy... #
494
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360
In 1970, Dusty gave an interview
495
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,000
to Ray Connolly
of the London Evening Standard
496
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,720
in which she admitted her
bisexuality for the first time.
497
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Though many have claimed
she was simply a lesbian,
498
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Dusty was adamant
she would not be confined
499
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200
by other peoples' categories.
500
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,760
I always felt that the whole
gay scene was very open.
501
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
I mean, there was
never any problem with it.
502
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,600
For non-stars,
it was absolutely fine.
503
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,040
But for the business, nothing's
changed. It's the same today.
504
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,600
People don't announce their sexuality
because it's not good for business.
505
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Although she has gone public
on two or three occasions,
506
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,080
I sometimes had the impression
that she wished she hadn't.
507
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,040
Although I believe
she'd have been a happier person,
508
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,080
if she'd been absolutely clear
and got the subject out of the way,
509
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,400
she obviously couldn't do it,
for whatever reason.
510
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360
I think that was a pity.
511
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,480
If she did find out she was bisexual,
512
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:11,280
I think she would have thought,
"Oh, that's against my religion".
513
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,320
Maybe that's why
she became a lapsed Catholic.
514
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,640
I think it made her
more introvert about it.
515
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,240
She ALWAYS felt guilty.
516
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,400
I don't know if she'd have been
as brave as Ellen DeGeneres.
517
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,560
But she was as outrageous,
518
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,800
or would have liked to have been,
519
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,600
as Madonna, on occasion, has been.
520
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,120
The outrageousness of certain
people really appealed to her.
521
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,280
Dusty's love of the outrageous,
522
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,600
and a public persona that at once
suggested AND hid her sexuality,
523
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,560
ensured her status as a gay icon.
524
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Her camp wit was to
land her in trouble
525
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,840
when she gave a concert
in front of Princess Margaret
526
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,760
at the Royal Albert Hall in 1979.
527
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,680
By then, Simon Bell
had become her backing singer.
528
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:35,800
Dusty noticed that the audience was
largely gay, especially at the front.
529
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:42,640
She made a remark that
it was nice to see that royalty
wasn't confined to the box.
530
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,280
Apparently, Princess Margaret
didn't like that.
531
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:52,320
I find it hard to believe
that Princess Margaret
hasn't had a sense of humour.
532
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,320
Apparently, she was not amused.
533
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,360
A letter came from St James' Palace
534
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,360
instructing Dusty
that she had to sign an apology
535
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,880
for having insulted the Crown.
536
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,920
Dusty signed it.
I was very surprised.
537
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,520
That proves she's not quite
the hell-raiser that we'd think.
538
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,360
DUSTY: This is for all the people
who have been legends in their time,
539
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,200
I'm sure you know...
CHEERING
540
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,840
Sometimes the ladies I'm speaking of
give too much of themselves,
541
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,960
sometimes not enough.
542
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,000
This song is really for
all those people, all those women,
543
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,840
no matter where they are now.
544
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,880
She was a great dramatic singer.
545
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:54,760
She fitted into the mould
drawn by Judy Garland.
546
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:01,000
And...later when she wasn't
at her peak, vocally,
547
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,760
there was always that element of,
"Was she going to make it?"
548
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Again, drawing on
the same source as Judy.
549
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,080
It was easy to see why
she was going to be a gay icon.
550
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,120
She made wonderful,
heart-rending songs
551
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,360
that a certain kind of gay man,
and woman,
552
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
loved to sit and listen to, you know.
553
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:34,640
# Quiet please,
there's a lady on stage
554
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,600
# She may not be the latest rage
555
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:46,040
# But she's singing and she means it
556
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,760
# That deserves a little silence
557
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,960
# Quiet please,
there's a woman up there
558
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,000
# She's been honest
through her songs... #
559
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,120
She was a diva, and the fact that
she wasn't easy to deal with
560
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,800
and the vulnerability,
that appeals to gay people.
561
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:17,680
They see themselves, and they're a
bit tortured. She was a bit tortured.
562
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,560
# ...Put your hands together
and help her along
563
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,360
# All that's left of the singers
564
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,400
# All that's left of the song
565
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,600
# Rise to the occasion... #
566
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,640
Two things made Dusty a gay icon.
567
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Firstly, the music.
568
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Then, the look.
569
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Dusty made a remark in the 1980s,
570
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,320
"I must be getting popular again,
the drag queens are doing me!"
571
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,840
She was just camp.
That's what attracted them.
572
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,760
Every drag queen
wanted to look like her.
573
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,120
I can't tell you how many parties
I've been to where some drag queen
turned up like her!
574
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,000
She was a camp icon.
575
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,240
Also, the hand movements.
The whole package.
576
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:18,120
At her funeral, Lulu told this story
that Dusty developed it
577
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,760
because she wrote
the lyrics on her arm.
578
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Ah! I loved it when she'd go...
579
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,600
I can't remember which song.
Say it was:
580
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560
# Where did our love lie?
581
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,760
# In the middle of nowhere. #
582
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Because she'd forget the next...
That wasn't a good example.
583
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,960
But she'd have the words up her arms,
on her hands.
584
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,480
There was ink everywhere.
585
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,320
Because she'd forget.
She'd forget lines, which we all do.
586
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,160
But hers were so obvious,
but she turned it into...
587
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,440
# Where did our love lie? #
And she'd do that.
588
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,760
Cos she was partly blind, she'd
have to go right up to her nose!
589
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,480
# So if I give up
# Yes, I'm packin' up
590
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,920
# Movin' out of the town
# Movin' out of the town
591
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,240
# Packin' up
# Yes, I'm packin up
592
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,240
# I'm not chained
and I'm no longer bound
593
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,640
# So I'm packin' up... #
594
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Dusty had left England
at the start of the 70s.
595
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,000
Her sales were dropping,
596
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,320
she had a horror of ending up
on the nostalgia circuit,
597
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,080
and she wanted to escape
the prying into her sexuality.
598
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,360
With her enduring love
599
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,320
of both the American pop scene
and Hollywood movies,
600
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Dusty felt the time had come
to pursue her American dreams.
601
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,080
She got an American manager
602
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,280
who said he could do this,
he could do that.
603
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,400
But when she got there, they had no
idea what type of artist she was.
604
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,040
They thought she was a Peggy Lee
who sat down at the piano,
605
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,320
had a pianist
and sang in a nightclub.
606
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,000
That wasn't Dusty at all.
That wasn't her scene.
607
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360
# She's a sweetheart,
except when she's moody
608
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,240
# It's hard to get through to her
then...#
609
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,560
She'd been so big in England
610
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,920
and it had been relatively easy,
I think she thought
611
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,920
that would happen in America.
612
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960
She was inherently lazy,
613
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,760
and when it didn't
happen immediately,
614
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,520
she just went, "Shit! This isn't
so easy. "I'll find another way."
615
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,560
You think you have all the time
in the world and you really don't.
616
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,880
And suddenly it's too late for that.
617
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,480
# ...Cos she might take a drink
with the housework
618
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,000
# Or when Michael stayed late
at the shop
619
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,240
# A martini or two before dinner
620
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,680
# But she always knows
when to stop. #
621
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,720
What went wrong was a combination.
622
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:05,000
Yes, it was bad management.
It was also the drugs and the drink.
623
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:11,760
She was impossible. Nobody could
have helped her, made her do things.
624
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,280
Her decisions were wonky.
They just weren't right.
625
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,720
I'm hearing all these stories
coming back from different sources.
626
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:23,560
And I must own up, I did sometimes
feel guilty and think,
627
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,280
"I wish I had gone, because
I might have made a difference."
628
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,080
On the other hand, I might not have
and I'd have had to watch it.
629
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,920
I'd rather have not seen that period
of her life.
630
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
# ...She was doing the dishes
631
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,920
# When a glass fell
and broke on the tiles
632
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,920
# She cut her wrist,
quite by mistake
633
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,040
# It was real touch and go
for a while. #
634
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,080
A part of me was worried when
you'd pass newspaper stands and see,
635
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,840
"Pop Star..." and something tragic
had happened to them.
636
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,560
I always expected to see something
like that.
637
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,240
She was a self-destructive
type person as well. So...
638
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,160
In the hills above Los Angeles,
639
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,000
the Wildlife Waystation takes in
abused and neglected animals.
640
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,640
It became a place of sanctuary
for Dusty in her "Lost Years".
641
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,920
After her albums of the early 70s
met with indifference,
642
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,560
she mostly dropped out
of the music scene for several years
643
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,280
and turned her attention
to the women's tennis circuit
and Beverly Hills parties.
644
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,800
Increasingly depressed,
645
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,400
she attempted to replace
the highs of stardom
646
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,440
with alcohol, Mandrax and cocaine.
647
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Eventually,
she attempted suicide several times.
648
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:14,120
Dusty met Helene Sellery in 1976,
at an alcoholics' support group.
649
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Helene was on hand when Dusty
started recording again
in the late 70s,
650
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,280
And together, they were frequent
visitors to the Wildlife Waystation.
651
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:30,240
If I had to say where her heart
was in California, it would be here.
652
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,080
This was peace and quiet for her.
653
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,560
It was one-to-one rapport
with the animals.
654
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Yes, she had her
cats and adored them,
655
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,080
but this was special,
she came to get renewed here.
656
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:48,400
She would sit in front of
the cat cages for hours, in silence.
657
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,440
She would try to mimic their sounds.
658
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,320
When I first knew her, she'd said,
659
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,760
"It gets lonely in the studios
and there's a lot of cocaine around.
660
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,800
"I'd like you to come to rehearsals."
I did for two-and-a-half albums.
661
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,840
She'd rehearse from 6pm till 4am.
662
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,280
Which is, in part,
why this issue is difficult.
663
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,480
She was used to night performances,
that's when her voice was ready.
664
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,920
I'd sit with earplugs
reading Scientific American!
665
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,360
After the years of virtual silence,
666
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,640
Dusty's latest albums proved that
although her voice was still alive,
667
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,600
her records were no longer selling.
668
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,400
Disillusioned, with America,
669
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,440
she stopped speaking of
her old self, Mary O'Brien,
670
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,920
as someone to erase, but rather
as the answer to her problems.
671
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,200
DUSTY: I've been singing all my life
since I left convent school.
672
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,960
I hadn't a chance to grow up,
I just became this monster
673
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,920
that I invented for myself to become.
674
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:19,000
# ...I was so frustrated,
wanted to tear my hair out
675
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,680
# Can't seem to get a grip
on your love. #
676
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,880
You get to Hollywood, and find
yourself playing mental games
677
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,520
by looking down your hill and
saying, "Well, it looks like Spain,"
678
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
because Spain is closer to England.
679
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,000
Did you ever really feel
you belonged there?
680
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,720
Did you ever emotionally accept
your life in Hollywood? Never.
681
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,560
I never came to terms with it.
682
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520
I loved the last house I lived in
683
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,280
because it was five minutes
above Sunset Strip,
684
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,120
but I had coyotes and racoons
and it was utterly quiet.
685
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,960
I could look over the whole city.
That's an unbeatable feeling.
686
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,880
But outside of that, and that
breeds extreme laziness...in me.
687
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:11,000
I handle idleness badly. I had to
kick myself in the butt and get out.
688
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,960
My contribution was to
get her out of LA, into Amsterdam.
689
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,320
LA is a desert land. It's disastrous.
690
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,360
The sun shines every bloody day.
691
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:28,000
There's nothing to do, unless you're
rich and famous. She wasn't either.
692
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,720
# You always wanted a lover
693
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,640
# I only wanted a job... #
694
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,880
I didn't get involved
until The Pet Shop Boys.
695
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,240
The reason
I got involved was because
696
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:46,440
I just felt it was criminal
that nothing was happening.
697
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,920
She was trying to get herself
together, in terms of the drinking.
698
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,080
The record was brilliant,
and if I didn't do it, I felt,
699
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,680
"Nobody's gonna do it. It'll be one
record and she'll slip back again."
700
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,160
I think, by the 80s,
Dusty thought it was all over.
701
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Then we did this record with her,
What Have I Done To Deserve This?
702
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,240
It was such a big hit,
it's quite remarkable to think now.
703
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:17,000
It was Number Two in America.
Number Two in Britain.
704
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Number one in the US sales chart.
705
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,600
# What have I, what have I...
706
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,160
# Since you went away,
I've been hanging around
707
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,080
# I've been wondering why
I'm feeling down
708
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,520
# You went away,
it should make me feel better
709
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040
# But I don't know, oh
710
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,080
# How I'm gonna get through
711
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,000
# How I'm gonna get through. #
712
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,800
So suddenly she realised it wasn't
all over. That she could be back.
713
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,560
And she really took that
very, very seriously.
714
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Later, we said, "Do you want to do
this song from the film Scandal?"
715
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,640
It was set in 1963,
Dusty was around then,
716
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,240
yet she was around in the late 80s,
717
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,720
so it seemed very resonant
to get her to do it.
718
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:12,080
# It's a scandal
It's a scandal, such a scandal. #
719
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,480
She was very creative,
and a perfectionist.
720
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,120
So her way of recording
was to stand behind the microphone,
721
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,080
with a cigarette and a cup of coffee
722
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,240
and the lyric sheet
with lots of pencil marks on it,
723
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:30,080
and she would record word-by-word,
or syllable-by-syllable,
724
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,800
gradually changing it.
Very like someone doing a painting.
725
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,200
# Mandy's in the papers,
cos she tried to go to Spain
726
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,520
# She'll soon be in the dock,
then the papers once again
727
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,400
# Vicki's got her story
about the mirror and the cane
728
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,840
# It may be false... #
729
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,000
So in every verse and chorus,
the melody would be changed slightly.
730
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,520
Then, the last chorus
would go through the ceiling.
731
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,880
# ...they may be false
732
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,520
# They may be true
733
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:15,200
# But nothing has been proved. #
734
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:21,200
That's one with The Pet Shop Boys.
735
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,840
It's quite important because
it was them that brought her back,
736
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,480
bless their little hearts.
737
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,960
She'd be enormously grateful.
738
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,000
I didn't realise I had quite so many.
739
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,400
My favourite album. I loved that.
740
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:45,320
She did have beautiful eyes,
didn't she?
741
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,320
# Tell me where is a woman to go?
742
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,320
# When she's feelin' low
743
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:04,880
# And all she wants to do
is feel a little better... #
744
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,320
In 1994, soon after the completion
745
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,760
of the Nashville-recorded album,
A Very Fine Love,
746
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,440
Dusty was diagnosed
with breast cancer.
747
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,960
She'd only ever allowed her closest
friends to see her out of character,
without make-up.
748
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,520
She saw no reason now to challenge
749
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,000
the fans' image of
Dusty Springfield.
750
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,080
She retreated
to the Berkshire countryside,
751
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,600
away from the public gaze.
752
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:35,320
# ...All she wants to do is
# Is feel a little better
753
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,800
# Tell me where
# Where
754
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,840
# Pretty girl
755
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,440
# When she's feelin' low
756
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:51,200
# And all she wants to do
is feel a little better
757
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,640
# Do, da, do, da, do, da,
do, da, day
758
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,840
# Ahh! Do, da, do, da, do, da,
do, da, day
759
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:22,320
# Do, da, do, da, do, da,
do, dah, day. #
760
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:31,200
Dusty was a complete survivor.
She lived to be nearly 60.
761
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Her life simply wasn't tragic.
762
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,640
When she died, she was on an up.
She'd sorted herself out financially.
763
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,480
She got the OBE from the Queen.
764
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,520
She got a beautiful house
because she knew she'd be ill
765
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,040
and she wanted lovely views
and friends nearby.
766
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960
She wanted her cats around.
767
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,560
She was thrilled that the illness
took away the need to work.
768
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,720
She didn't have to feel guilty
about not working. That was gone.
769
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,520
# I think I'm goin' back
770
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,400
# To the things I learned so well
771
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,880
# In my youth
772
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,600
# I think I'm returning to
773
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,680
# Those days when I was young enough
774
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,000
# To know the truth
775
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,120
# Now there are no games
776
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,560
# To only pass the time... #
777
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,880
Dusty's funeral was
her last great performance.
778
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,920
She'd planned the horse and carriage
779
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,680
and stopped the traffic,
just as she had wanted to,
780
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,440
and received a standing ovation
781
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,560
as her coffin left the church
to the strains of Goin' Back.
782
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:09,440
# ..Growing older is no sin... #
783
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,560
It was an occasion that summed up
the contradiction and complexities
784
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,000
of being Dusty.
785
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,560
She was quoted as saying
she wanted to die as Mary O'Brien,
786
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,000
yet her funeral had
the flourishes of Dusty, the star.
787
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,520
# ...To reach out to a friend
788
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,000
# And now I think
I've got a lot... #
789
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,440
The Dusty I saw was different
with different people.
790
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,160
She could be charming and she could
be an absolute pain in the ass.
791
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,200
# ..Now there's more to do... #
792
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,800
Mary was a nice person.
Dusty had to be Dusty.
793
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,840
# ..And every day can be... #
794
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,800
Mary was the real Dusty
with Dusty bursting to get out!
795
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,560
# ..And I can play... #
796
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,360
It's easy to decide there
were two people - Mary and Dusty -
797
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,160
but they were the one person.
798
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,800
Dusty was most definitely Dusty
right to the end.
799
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:26,000
# ...I'm going back. #
800
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,840
I don't honestly think anybody
801
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,760
can truthfully say,
"I know Dusty Springfield."
802
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,920
Or, "I know Mary O'Brien."
803
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,360
She always kept part of herself
back from everybody.
804
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,200
I think that was her security.
805
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,080
Cos she knew she had a bit
that didn't belong to anyone else.
806
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,680
She always had that hint of mystery.
807
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,640
# You don't have to say you love me
808
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,840
# Just be close at hand
809
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,320
# You don't have to stay for ever
810
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,400
# I will understand
811
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:12,240
# Believe me, believe me
812
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,880
# You don't have to say you love me
813
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,880
# Just be close at hand
814
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,640
# You don't have to stay for ever
815
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,560
# I will understand
816
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:32,520
# Believe me
Ah! Believe me
817
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:39,960
# Believe me. #
818
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,080
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
819
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,600
MUSIC: "See All Her Faces"
by Dusty Springfield
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