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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,880 You only had to hear three notes and you knew it was her. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,360 That's a great thing about a singer. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,120 # The look of love 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,160 # Is in... # 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,440 Part of her attraction was that 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,280 she was a white girl who could sing that fabulous black R'n'B music. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Because that's what I loved. That, to me, was yes! Yes! 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,800 And that was what girl power was in the 60s. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,520 # The only one who could ever reach me 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,760 # Was the son of a preacher man 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,040 # The only boy... # 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,520 I think Dusty does sum up the fabness of the 60s 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,680 with her voice and with the hairdo. 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,360 The kind of bouffant hairdo. 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,560 And, of course, the trademark eye make-up made her very iconic. 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,600 # I think I'm going back... # 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,120 There was a vulnerability about her voice 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,440 and her personality which attracted me to her. 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,840 I think that's what attracts the public 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,320 to great singers and personalities from show business, 21 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,000 is their vulnerability. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,360 They're waiting for them to crack open at any second. 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,720 # Dusty Springfield 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,520 # That's a pretty name, it even sounds like a game 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,480 # In a green field 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,520 # Hobby horses play the dusty game when it's May 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,040 # Pink and paisley skies 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,600 # Shining in green eyes, a magic pinwheel 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,360 # London flowers fair 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,200 # Blooming in her hair 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,920 # Dusty Springfield. # 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,960 APPLAUSE 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Thank you very much. 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:23,240 # When I said I needed you 35 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:29,160 # You said you would always stay 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,320 # It wasn't me who changed but you 37 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,360 # And now you're far away 38 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:49,160 # Don't you see that now you've gone 39 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,320 # And I'm left here on my own... # 40 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Since the death of Dusty Springfield in March 1999, 41 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,600 just short of her 60th birthday, 42 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,840 fans and musicians have continued to celebrate 43 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,760 one of Britain's greatest ever singers. 44 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,000 # You don't have to say you love me... # 45 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Born Mary Isobel Catherine O'Brien 46 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 to Anglo-Irish-Scottish parents, 47 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,160 she became the original 60s Brit girl, 48 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,880 the so-called "white negress," a gay icon, a diva. 49 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,840 # ..Till I do, all I see is you... # 50 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Over a career spanning four decades, 51 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Dusty's glamorous image was to be as much her hallmark as her voice. 52 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,480 But it masked a deeply private person. 53 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,360 Dusty herself was torn between two characters - 54 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Mary O'Brien, the plain, insecure redhead, 55 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,240 and Dusty Springfield, the star she created. 56 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,040 A household name, she both invited attention and shunned it. 57 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,360 This is the story of the Dusty we thought we knew. 58 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,560 # You don't have to say you love me 59 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,640 # Just be close at hand 60 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,320 # You don't have to stay for ever 61 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 # I will understand 62 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,480 # Believe me 63 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,320 # Believe me 64 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,400 # You don't have to say you love me... # 65 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,240 I have a theme song. It's Oh, Lord, Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. 66 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,440 I'm the most misquoted and misunderstood person I know. Honest. 67 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,120 # Here she comes, here she comes... # 68 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Dusty hated work. She hated singing, she hated performing. 69 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,960 Motivation was money. 70 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,200 It was a means to an end. 71 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 It was the only thing she could think of to do to make any money, 72 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,520 and so she had to sing. 73 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:05,120 # See all her faces... # 74 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240 I think she sang because 75 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,280 she needed to be loved for who she was. 76 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,120 And she was never sure. 77 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,360 She didn't trust herself and she didn't trust anybody 78 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,600 and she never trusted her ability to sing and to move and to touch people. 79 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,000 # ..I'm looking for someone of the gentle kind 80 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200 # Knowing that looks can lie... # 81 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,840 Basically, she was very shy. 82 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:40,200 On stage, I don't know what happened to her because she became another person. 83 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Before she went on she'd go red all the way down here with sheer panic. 84 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,280 She couldn't find things, she'd be nervous, she'd be tripping over. 85 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:52,920 "Is this right? Is that right?" 86 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,720 She'd go on and there was the star. 87 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,720 # Look at her now 88 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,760 # She needs love so much more, so much... # 89 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,360 She used to call them somebody else. 90 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Dusty was Dusty Springfield and she was Mary O'Brien. 91 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,480 There was two people. 92 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:18,920 I mean, she transformed. As soon as the fingernails went on and the hair was done, that was Dusty. 93 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,200 She became Dusty then. She was two people. 94 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 # ..See all her faces 95 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:31,600 # See all her faces... # 96 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,560 At 13, I was pure St Trinian's. 97 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,600 The hockey sticks, the works, round glasses, Panama hat, a disaster area. 98 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,640 And then, I guess it was really an overnight thing, 99 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,040 that I decided I must change. 100 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,080 I realised this person looking at me in the mirror would not make it. 101 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,120 I decided I wanted to be someone else so I became someone else. 102 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Now I'm trying to find the other one. 103 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:06,000 # ..See all her faces... # 104 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,320 # All together, girls, one, two, three... # 105 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Dusty shocked the nuns by saying she wanted to be a blues singer. 106 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,320 After playing the London folk clubs with her brother Tom, 107 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,200 the 19-year-old Dusty joined vocal harmony trio The Lana Sisters. 108 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,120 # Did you really 109 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,560 # Mighty colour of the moonlight 110 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,720 # Let my baby know I miss him 111 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,720 # Let him know I long to kiss him... # 112 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:49,040 # Silver threads and golden needles Cannot mend this heart... # 113 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,080 In 1960, Dusty rejoined her brother Tom to form The Springfields. 114 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Third member, Tim Field was replaced the following year by Mike Hurst, 115 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,920 in time for their biggest British hit, Island Of Dreams. 116 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,240 # I wander the streets 117 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,680 # And the gay crowded places 118 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,120 # Trying to forget you 119 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,960 # But somehow it seems 120 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,720 # That my thoughts ever stray... # 121 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,920 I was aware immediately how great her voice was 122 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,320 compared to the other female singers of the day. 123 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,400 1962-63. The quality of her voice was unique. 124 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,440 # ..High in the sky 125 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,880 # Is a bird on the wing 126 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:53,800 # Please carry me with you... # 127 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Smile. That was the whole thing. Tom used to say it all the time, 128 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,480 "Just smile." And he hated it anyway. 129 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,320 He had this sort of fixed smile on his face which never left him. 130 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,840 So that's the way it was. It was very, very MOR, very cabaret. 131 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,040 That isn't what Dusty wanted. 132 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,040 # Sing a little song that you can't resist 133 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,920 # Que bonita maraca bamba 134 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,600 # Maraca bamba 135 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,120 # Round and round inside your brain 136 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,240 # Que bonita maraca bamba 137 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,760 # Hey, maraca bamba 138 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,640 # Well, now, we're gonna sing again 139 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,400 # Que bonita maraca bamba 140 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 # Bamba, bamba! # 141 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,920 # Get ready cos here I come 142 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,280 # I'm on my way 143 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,240 # Get ready cos here I come 144 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,240 # Get ready cos here I come 145 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,440 # Get ready cos here I come 146 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,080 # I'm on my way 147 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,800 # Get ready cos here I come 148 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,960 # Get ready cos here I come. # 149 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,480 # I don't know what it is that makes me love you so 150 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,200 # I only know I never wanna let you go 151 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,760 # Cos you've started something, oh, can't you see 152 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,480 # That ever since we met you've had a hold on me 153 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,000 # It happens to be true 154 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 # I only wanna be with you 155 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,040 # Yeah 156 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,480 # It doesn't matter where you go or what you do 157 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,320 # I wanna spend each moment of the day with you... # 158 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Dusty the solo singer burst onto the scene in 1963 159 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,400 and was an immediate success. 160 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,600 But her rise to stardom was not without difficulty. 161 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,960 # ..I only wanna be with you, yeah. # 162 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,920 # You stopped and smiled at me 163 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,960 # Asked if I care to dance... # 164 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,600 DUSTY: She's somebody else. 165 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,320 Basically, I'm quite a shy person to take on the mantle of a performer. 166 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,760 It's not an easy act. 167 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 She had to go on stage 168 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,160 and be this big, strong woman 169 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,000 who had so much power and could captivate thousands of people. 170 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:31,160 But when she went home, she was that scared little girl cos that's what she was. 171 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,040 I identified with her in that situation. 172 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,080 She was very insecure about the way she looked. 173 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,920 She had great self-doubt. But that sometimes makes a great artist. 174 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,760 People think of, you know, the glamorous Dusty that they saw on TV 175 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,920 but that wasn't probably the real her. 176 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,320 # Why don't you stop 177 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,320 Stop 178 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 # And look me over 179 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Me over 180 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,440 # Am I the same girl you used to know...? # 181 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,760 I think she saw Dusty Springfield as a creation 182 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,200 in many ways. 183 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,040 And a creation that took a long time to dress up in. 184 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Getting ready to be Dusty took hours. 185 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,560 She would have looked great in half an hour, I'm sure. 186 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:27,200 But her insecurities were in charge. 187 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,840 And maybe a bit of obsessiveness too. 188 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,640 # Am I the same girl? 189 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,480 # Yes I am, yes I am... # 190 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,240 She really went through it to be beautiful. 191 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Because she was small, she was only 5' 3". 192 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:50,440 So to have to wear high heels but not too high because she didn't want to look stupid 193 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,280 and this hair, and people said "Does she take her make-up off?" 194 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,360 To my knowledge, she kept the black on. She'd blot it. 195 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,720 But she would keep it on and she could hide behind that. 196 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,960 I find it an effort to keep up appearances. 197 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,320 Cos it takes so long. I'd rather be asleep. 198 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,320 It's very hard to describe oneself anyway because you don't see... 199 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,360 I'm very short-sighted so I'm constantly peering in mirrors. 200 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,200 And people say, "God, isn't she conceited!" and I can't see anything. 201 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,280 I can look in a mirror and I can't see how much eye black I've got on. 202 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,520 I just know I've got a lot on. I can't see the ends of my fingers. 203 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,680 She couldn't see people until they were really close up to her 204 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:47,720 which, she said, was an advantage because she was so insecure of having to deal with people. 205 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,080 One of her... One of my favourite of her expressions: 206 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,520 "Never let yourself be too get-at-able." 207 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,560 And she said, "Being in my position, being so short-sighted, 208 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:05,400 "it means people have to come close in order for me to recognise them. 209 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,440 "If they're over there, I don't have to speak to them - I can't see them." 210 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Her and Sandie Shaw were the two blindest pop singers of the 60s. 211 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Sandie Shaw was known for being barefoot, she should have been known for being partially blind. 212 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Poor thing. But Dusty did use the make-up as a bit of a mask. 213 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Everything was all part of a mask. 214 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,360 # ..Bailando con mi amigo 215 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,280 # Aqui todos ven por aqui 216 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,920 # Chicos y chicas 217 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,400 # Ven a bailar 218 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,280 # El baile... # 219 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,680 # Let's take a trip in a trailer No need to come back... # 220 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,440 With this transformation to glamorous star complete, 221 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,480 Dusty had a string of hits in the 60s and hosted a TV show. 222 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,920 # When I throw my arms out wide 223 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,760 # I find that you're not by my side... # 224 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:09,120 She seemed to be able to sing anything whilst remaining distinctively Dusty. 225 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,800 # ..all I see is you. # 226 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,840 # Everybody, have you heard 227 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,320 # Gonna buy me a mockingbird Mockingbird 228 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,080 # If that mockingbird don't sing 229 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,720 # If that mockingbird don't sing 230 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 # Gonna buy me a diamond ring... # 231 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 She was a great pop singer, a great soul singer, 232 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,040 a great ballad singer, 233 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 a great folk singer, a great jazz singer. 234 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,800 She was so good at so many different things. 235 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,320 I trusted what she sang. 236 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:50,160 It didn't make any difference if, once in a while, the note was a bit sharp or a bit flat. 237 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,120 They were jewels. 238 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,640 # The look of love 239 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:03,040 # Is in your eyes 240 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:13,840 # A look your heart can't disguise 241 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,120 # The look... # 242 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,160 I love the way Dusty sang The Look Of Love. It was smoky. It was sexy. 243 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,680 It was restrained. 244 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,000 It was held in check but underneath it was smouldering. 245 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 It was just on fire. 246 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,640 Just so much romance and passion and coolness to her, you know. 247 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,680 # ..well, it takes my breath away 248 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,120 # I can hardly wait to hold you 249 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,000 # Feel my arms around you 250 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,040 # How long I have waited 251 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,480 # Waited just to love you 252 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,240 # Now that I have found you 253 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,080 # Don't ever go... # 254 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,120 When she sang one of those breathy songs, it was like a reed instrument. 255 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:10,960 And it was such a fragile sound. 256 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:17,960 But then she was capable of soaring above a great R'n'B song and being so powerful, 257 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,040 you almost wouldn't believe it was the same woman. 258 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,440 # Gonna build a mountain 259 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,680 # Gonna build a mountain 260 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,120 # Least I know I will 261 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:28,480 # I hope I will 262 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,680 # Gonna build a mountain 263 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,520 # Gonna build a mountain 264 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,040 # Gonna build it so high 265 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,280 # I don't know how I'm gonna build it 266 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,480 # All I know I'm gonna try 267 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,120 # Gonna build a mountain 268 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,480 # Gonna build a mountain... # 269 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,960 Dubbed the queen of blue-eyed soul, 270 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,120 Dusty was often assumed to be black 271 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,520 by those who had heard but not seen her. 272 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,280 She sometimes admitted to feeling like an impostor. 273 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,840 But, with a few exceptions, black musicians respected her. 274 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,160 She was a tireless promoter of black music, 275 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,840 whether hosting Ready Steady Go, or covering soul on her own show. 276 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,800 # Higher and higher # Yeah, higher and higher 277 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,560 # Higher and higher # Oh, higher and higher 278 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,400 # Higher and higher # Just build a mountain 279 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,640 # Higher and higher # Yeah 280 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,320 # Higher and higher # Gonna build it 281 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,960 # Higher and higher # Yeah... # 282 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,640 Well, I think she was... 283 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,720 If you scraped off the Irish 284 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,120 Mary Isobel Catherine Bernadette O'Brien, 285 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,560 she was black underneath. 286 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,200 # Get ready cos here I come 287 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,280 # If you wanna play hide and seek with love, let me remind you 288 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,920 # You're all right 289 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,520 # All the lovin' you're gonna miss in the time it takes to find you... # 290 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Before Dusty, British female singers were still in the 50s. 291 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,680 Dusty changed it virtually overnight. 292 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Suddenly she made records sounding like they were made in America. 293 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,160 She was singing like an American. 294 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,040 But it didn't sound like an impression. It was the real thing. 295 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,800 # Get ready, here I come 296 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,240 # Get ready cos here I come... # 297 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,120 Britain suddenly had a soul singer. 298 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:19,240 People forget that when you say, "soul singer," 299 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,280 you don't mean the person is black, you just mean they sing from there. 300 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Soul singers don't have a colour. 301 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,360 Everybody knows that Dusty was mesmerised by black singers. 302 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:37,920 She just loved the Martha Reeves and Aretha Franklins and Dionne Warwicks 303 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:44,280 and there is a tremendously soulful spiritual feeling 304 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,800 even though she wasn't raised in a Baptist church shaking a tambourine. 305 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,840 # Calling out around the world 306 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,600 # Are you ready for a brand new beat? 307 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,440 # Yeah 308 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,800 # Summer's here and the time is right for dancing in the street 309 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,640 # They're dancing in Chicago 310 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 # Down in New Orleans 311 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,400 # In New York City 312 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,000 # All is you need is music 313 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,720 # Sweet music 314 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,760 # There'll be music everywhere 315 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,040 # They'll be swinging and swaying and records playing 316 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,400 # And dancing in the street... # 317 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,800 There were other ladies who embraced our music and did cover versions - 318 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Cilla Black, Petula Clark and Lulu - that I can remember doing our songs. 319 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:43,680 However, Dusty was the one who got into the music and did cover versions and glorified the music. 320 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,160 She was in awe of us and we were in awe of her. 321 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,000 # Like a heatwave 322 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,440 # Burning in my heart 323 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,800 # Heatwave 324 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,160 # I can't keep from crying 325 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,600 # Heatwave 326 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,960 # It's tearing me apart... # 327 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,280 I come from a white bread English family 328 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,040 who were brought up on Gilbert and Sullivan and South Pacific 329 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:14,080 and I'd never heard a black singer and Dusty was playing me these black soul records and I loved them. 330 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,720 So over the course of Ready Steady, I could book who I wanted 331 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,560 so I'd book Otis Reading, Ike and Tina Turner, James Brown and Motown. 332 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:30,600 We would play their records and none of them had been to England and they put together a Motown review. 333 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,440 We had a special and Dusty hosted it. 334 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,600 # Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'... # 335 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,280 MARTHA REEVES: She welcomed Smokey, and the Supremes weren't known then. 336 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:48,080 The Temptations with My Girl - they were the stars of the show. 337 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Stevie Wonder did Fingertips and we did a great show. 338 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,920 The thrill of it all was singing the duet with Dusty. 339 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Wishin' and Hopin'. I think our voices blended so well. 340 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,720 That was really a thrill. And we were friends since then. 341 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,120 Dusty was cast as a hero of the anti-apartheid movement 342 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:29,760 when her 1964 tour to South Africa provoked a political storm. 343 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,360 Her contract stated she would play only to mixed audiences. 344 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:37,680 Confronted with a sea of all-white faces at a concert, Dusty rebelled. 345 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,880 She was forced to abandon the tour and return home. 346 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,680 Why did you have the anti-apartheid clause written into your contract? 347 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680 Do you feel strongly politically about this? 348 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,040 No, I don't know the first thing about politics. 349 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,720 All I know is that if... I think anybody, 350 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,080 if they want to buy a ticket, should be allowed to do so. 351 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,920 This was the agreement I went under. 352 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Why was your contract different to previous ones? 353 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,960 I may be wrong about this, 354 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560 but I think most British artists 355 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,800 that have been there before 356 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,360 have played one or two 357 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:18,960 segregated concerts 358 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,880 and I didn't want to do it. 359 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,160 # Can I get a witness? 360 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,520 # I want a witness 361 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,480 # Witness, witness 362 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,160 # Witness, witness 363 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,600 # Everybody knows 364 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040 # Especially you, boy... # 365 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Dusty was not to become known for her politics 366 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800 but the South African incident 367 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,640 underlined her emerging reputation as a hell raiser. 368 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,680 Her hot temper and sense of humour meant trouble followed her around. 369 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,880 Dusty's outsider status was fuelled by rumours about her sexuality 370 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,080 which were countered with carefully managed publicity 371 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240 that presented her both as straight and forever on the verge of romance. 372 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,440 The flip side was a punishing schedule of touring and recording. 373 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,680 From the early days, she suffered from nervous exhaustion. 374 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,760 Her workload was increased by her hands-on approach. 375 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,600 I would see Dusty actually take charge 376 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,640 and people weren't always happy she was adamant about what she wanted. 377 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,000 I've kind of got a bit more like that now. 378 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,000 But I admired that and I loved that... I saw it as feistiness. 379 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,760 It was hard, no doubt about it, because she's extremely musical 380 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:14,400 and knew sounds and knew what she wanted on her records and was influenced by America. 381 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:21,840 So she felt strongly that she wanted certain sounds that English musicians perhaps hadn't played, 382 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:29,560 arrangers hadn't thought about and she was constantly playing records saying, "This is what we want." 383 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,840 # I close my eyes 384 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960 # And count to ten 385 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,280 # And when I open them you're still here... # 386 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,720 She would like the bass player to use his fingers, 387 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,480 because that's what she'd seen in America. 388 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,520 Things that don't mean anything to most people were important to her. 389 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,400 But she brought them over to the UK. 390 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,040 A lot of musicians didn't like that. But she knew what she wanted. 391 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,360 # You don't own me 392 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:08,680 # I'm not just one of your many toys 393 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840 # You don't own me... # 394 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,480 People never give women credit for knowing that they can get it. 395 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,440 And Dusty did and in fairness Johnny France, the producer, was excellent. 396 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:29,080 He was older and he was more than happy to sit back, put his feet up and let her get on with it. 397 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,480 # Don't tell me what to do 398 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,040 # And don't tell me what to say... # 399 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,800 When you think about it, in the early 60s and mid-60s, 400 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,240 it was very male dominated. 401 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,000 So for this so-called "star" to come along, 402 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,680 female, telling us what to do, 403 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440 it wasn't really accepted. 404 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,480 But that's why she got the reputation and she used to say, 405 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,440 When a man stands his ground, it's, "Yeah, he stood his ground," 406 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,840 but when a woman stands her ground, she's a B-I-T-C-H. 407 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,040 My first consciousness of Dusty Springfield was driving to work 408 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,560 one day in 1965 from Long Island 409 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,320 into our Atlantic Records office in Manhattan. 410 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,760 And I had the radio on, of course, and here comes this beautiful voice, 411 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,080 and I hadn't heard it before. 412 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760 And it was mesmerising. 413 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,400 The song I heard on the radio that day was Some Of Your Lovin'. 414 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Her voice really struck me and I knew this was somebody very special. 415 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:01,920 # I know a man likes to feel that he's been around 416 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,360 # Before he decides to settle down 417 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:14,600 # I've no doubt, some day, you're gonna feel that way too 418 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:21,280 # But, baby, just remember, until you do 419 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,600 # You gotta give me some, give me some of your lovin' 420 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,560 # You gotta give me some of your lovin' 421 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,880 # Now I'm not a greedy girl 422 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120 # I don't need the world 423 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,560 # Give me some of your lovin' 424 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080 # Oh, some of your lovin' # Some 425 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080 # Oh-oh-oh-oh... # 426 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,680 Attracted by Jerry Wexler's work 427 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,720 with artists like Ray Charles and Aretha Franklin, 428 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,120 Dusty teamed up with the legendary producer to make her next album, 429 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,160 the classic Dusty In Memphis. 430 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200 But it was to be a rocky road. 431 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,440 So we scheduled for American Studios in Memphis. The band was brilliant. 432 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,880 But, to my dismay, Dusty absolutely would not sing a note. 433 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,080 I don't know how many days we spent in Memphis. Probably about two weeks. 434 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,920 She just wouldn't sing. 435 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Jerry's said I'm the most insecure singer he's ever come across, 436 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960 and at that time, he was quite right. 437 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120 What he didn't realise was how intimidated I was. 438 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,920 They were telling stories and talking about Aretha 439 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880 and I'm going, "Why are they recording me?" 440 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,720 And that showed in the time it took to get performances out of me. 441 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,920 We ended up in New York in a hired studio on 57th Street 442 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960 and that's where we did the vocals. 443 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:20,000 And there were just Arif, Tom Dowd and myself in there to work with her. 444 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,040 And er... There was one... 445 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,680 During one song, I had to duck a flying ashtray! 446 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,880 I haven't told that before. I don't think I put it down! 447 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Dusty had the stigmata of perfectibility. 448 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,960 So when she did perform, 449 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,600 she was afraid to let it go because her standards were so high 450 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,640 and it might not come out right. 451 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,440 # Just a little loving 452 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,040 # Early in the morning... # 453 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960 DUSTY: There was an element in me 454 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,000 that always...often thought I was a sham anyway. 455 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,840 It took a lot to break that down, 456 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280 that critic in me. 457 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,320 And they did it. They got it out of me somehow. 458 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,560 # I don't wanna hear it anymore 459 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000 # I don't wanna hear it... # 460 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,840 She contravened all the received and perceived notions of how to do a vocal. 461 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,320 Because the band has finished and she has earphones on 462 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,120 and Dusty kept calling for more track, more track 463 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,160 and finally it reached the point, I couldn't believe it, 464 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,920 she's doing a vocal and says, "More track, I can still hear myself." 465 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,040 Imagine. She wanted so much track 466 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,080 that she couldn't hear the vocal that she was projecting at the time. 467 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,920 I can't imagine how she did it, 468 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,960 how she stayed in tune, stayed in time, 469 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,800 and sang with Dusty's personality and created these marvellous vocals. 470 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640 # Billy Ray was a preacher's son 471 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,080 # And when his daddy would visit, he'd come along 472 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800 # When they'd gather round and started talking 473 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,560 # That's when Billy would take me walking 474 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240 # A-through the back yard we'd go walking 475 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000 # Then he looked into my eyes 476 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440 # Lord knows to my surprise 477 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,440 # The only one who could ever reach me 478 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,880 # Was the son of a preacher man 479 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,720 # The only boy who could ever teach me 480 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840 # Was the son of a preacher man 481 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,640 # Yes, he was, he was 482 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080 # Oh, yes, he was... # 483 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,280 If you'd left it to her, 484 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,920 I don't think half her material would have been released. 485 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,120 She was always striving to be better and saying, 486 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,160 "I'd like to have sung that like Aretha sung it." 487 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000 Her own stuff was never good enough. 488 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,040 She always came away going, "I could have done that better." 489 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:13,280 # You've been crying, your face is a mess 490 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:20,040 # Come here, baby, you can dry the tears on my dress 491 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:27,000 # She's hurt you again, I can tell 492 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,480 # Oh, I know that look so well 493 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,320 # Don't be shy... # 494 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360 In 1970, Dusty gave an interview 495 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,000 to Ray Connolly of the London Evening Standard 496 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,720 in which she admitted her bisexuality for the first time. 497 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,280 Though many have claimed she was simply a lesbian, 498 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,400 Dusty was adamant she would not be confined 499 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200 by other peoples' categories. 500 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,760 I always felt that the whole gay scene was very open. 501 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480 I mean, there was never any problem with it. 502 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,600 For non-stars, it was absolutely fine. 503 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,040 But for the business, nothing's changed. It's the same today. 504 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,600 People don't announce their sexuality because it's not good for business. 505 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,640 Although she has gone public on two or three occasions, 506 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,080 I sometimes had the impression that she wished she hadn't. 507 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,040 Although I believe she'd have been a happier person, 508 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,080 if she'd been absolutely clear and got the subject out of the way, 509 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,400 she obviously couldn't do it, for whatever reason. 510 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360 I think that was a pity. 511 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,480 If she did find out she was bisexual, 512 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:11,280 I think she would have thought, "Oh, that's against my religion". 513 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,320 Maybe that's why she became a lapsed Catholic. 514 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,640 I think it made her more introvert about it. 515 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,240 She ALWAYS felt guilty. 516 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,400 I don't know if she'd have been as brave as Ellen DeGeneres. 517 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,560 But she was as outrageous, 518 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,800 or would have liked to have been, 519 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,600 as Madonna, on occasion, has been. 520 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,120 The outrageousness of certain people really appealed to her. 521 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,280 Dusty's love of the outrageous, 522 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,600 and a public persona that at once suggested AND hid her sexuality, 523 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,560 ensured her status as a gay icon. 524 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Her camp wit was to land her in trouble 525 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,840 when she gave a concert in front of Princess Margaret 526 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,760 at the Royal Albert Hall in 1979. 527 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,680 By then, Simon Bell had become her backing singer. 528 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:35,800 Dusty noticed that the audience was largely gay, especially at the front. 529 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:42,640 She made a remark that it was nice to see that royalty wasn't confined to the box. 530 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,280 Apparently, Princess Margaret didn't like that. 531 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:52,320 I find it hard to believe that Princess Margaret hasn't had a sense of humour. 532 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,320 Apparently, she was not amused. 533 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,360 A letter came from St James' Palace 534 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,360 instructing Dusty that she had to sign an apology 535 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,880 for having insulted the Crown. 536 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,920 Dusty signed it. I was very surprised. 537 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,520 That proves she's not quite the hell-raiser that we'd think. 538 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,360 DUSTY: This is for all the people who have been legends in their time, 539 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,200 I'm sure you know... CHEERING 540 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,840 Sometimes the ladies I'm speaking of give too much of themselves, 541 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,960 sometimes not enough. 542 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,000 This song is really for all those people, all those women, 543 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,840 no matter where they are now. 544 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,880 She was a great dramatic singer. 545 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:54,760 She fitted into the mould drawn by Judy Garland. 546 00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:01,000 And...later when she wasn't at her peak, vocally, 547 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,760 there was always that element of, "Was she going to make it?" 548 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,920 Again, drawing on the same source as Judy. 549 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,080 It was easy to see why she was going to be a gay icon. 550 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,120 She made wonderful, heart-rending songs 551 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,360 that a certain kind of gay man, and woman, 552 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560 loved to sit and listen to, you know. 553 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:34,640 # Quiet please, there's a lady on stage 554 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,600 # She may not be the latest rage 555 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:46,040 # But she's singing and she means it 556 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,760 # That deserves a little silence 557 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,960 # Quiet please, there's a woman up there 558 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,000 # She's been honest through her songs... # 559 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,120 She was a diva, and the fact that she wasn't easy to deal with 560 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,800 and the vulnerability, that appeals to gay people. 561 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:17,680 They see themselves, and they're a bit tortured. She was a bit tortured. 562 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,560 # ...Put your hands together and help her along 563 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,360 # All that's left of the singers 564 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,400 # All that's left of the song 565 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,600 # Rise to the occasion... # 566 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,640 Two things made Dusty a gay icon. 567 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560 Firstly, the music. 568 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,640 Then, the look. 569 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,000 Dusty made a remark in the 1980s, 570 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,320 "I must be getting popular again, the drag queens are doing me!" 571 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,840 She was just camp. That's what attracted them. 572 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,760 Every drag queen wanted to look like her. 573 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,120 I can't tell you how many parties I've been to where some drag queen turned up like her! 574 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,000 She was a camp icon. 575 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,240 Also, the hand movements. The whole package. 576 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:18,120 At her funeral, Lulu told this story that Dusty developed it 577 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,760 because she wrote the lyrics on her arm. 578 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,640 Ah! I loved it when she'd go... 579 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,600 I can't remember which song. Say it was: 580 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560 # Where did our love lie? 581 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,760 # In the middle of nowhere. # 582 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600 Because she'd forget the next... That wasn't a good example. 583 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,960 But she'd have the words up her arms, on her hands. 584 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,480 There was ink everywhere. 585 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,320 Because she'd forget. She'd forget lines, which we all do. 586 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,160 But hers were so obvious, but she turned it into... 587 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,440 # Where did our love lie? # And she'd do that. 588 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,760 Cos she was partly blind, she'd have to go right up to her nose! 589 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,480 # So if I give up # Yes, I'm packin' up 590 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,920 # Movin' out of the town # Movin' out of the town 591 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,240 # Packin' up # Yes, I'm packin up 592 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,240 # I'm not chained and I'm no longer bound 593 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,640 # So I'm packin' up... # 594 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,440 Dusty had left England at the start of the 70s. 595 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,000 Her sales were dropping, 596 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,320 she had a horror of ending up on the nostalgia circuit, 597 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,080 and she wanted to escape the prying into her sexuality. 598 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,360 With her enduring love 599 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,320 of both the American pop scene and Hollywood movies, 600 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,680 Dusty felt the time had come to pursue her American dreams. 601 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,080 She got an American manager 602 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,280 who said he could do this, he could do that. 603 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,400 But when she got there, they had no idea what type of artist she was. 604 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,040 They thought she was a Peggy Lee who sat down at the piano, 605 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,320 had a pianist and sang in a nightclub. 606 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,000 That wasn't Dusty at all. That wasn't her scene. 607 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360 # She's a sweetheart, except when she's moody 608 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,240 # It's hard to get through to her then...# 609 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,560 She'd been so big in England 610 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,920 and it had been relatively easy, I think she thought 611 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,920 that would happen in America. 612 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960 She was inherently lazy, 613 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,760 and when it didn't happen immediately, 614 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,520 she just went, "Shit! This isn't so easy. "I'll find another way." 615 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,560 You think you have all the time in the world and you really don't. 616 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,880 And suddenly it's too late for that. 617 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,480 # ...Cos she might take a drink with the housework 618 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,000 # Or when Michael stayed late at the shop 619 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,240 # A martini or two before dinner 620 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,680 # But she always knows when to stop. # 621 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,720 What went wrong was a combination. 622 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:05,000 Yes, it was bad management. It was also the drugs and the drink. 623 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:11,760 She was impossible. Nobody could have helped her, made her do things. 624 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,280 Her decisions were wonky. They just weren't right. 625 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,720 I'm hearing all these stories coming back from different sources. 626 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:23,560 And I must own up, I did sometimes feel guilty and think, 627 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,280 "I wish I had gone, because I might have made a difference." 628 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,080 On the other hand, I might not have and I'd have had to watch it. 629 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,920 I'd rather have not seen that period of her life. 630 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360 # ...She was doing the dishes 631 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,920 # When a glass fell and broke on the tiles 632 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,920 # She cut her wrist, quite by mistake 633 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,040 # It was real touch and go for a while. # 634 00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,080 A part of me was worried when you'd pass newspaper stands and see, 635 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,840 "Pop Star..." and something tragic had happened to them. 636 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,560 I always expected to see something like that. 637 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,240 She was a self-destructive type person as well. So... 638 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,160 In the hills above Los Angeles, 639 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,000 the Wildlife Waystation takes in abused and neglected animals. 640 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,640 It became a place of sanctuary for Dusty in her "Lost Years". 641 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,920 After her albums of the early 70s met with indifference, 642 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,560 she mostly dropped out of the music scene for several years 643 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,280 and turned her attention to the women's tennis circuit and Beverly Hills parties. 644 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,800 Increasingly depressed, 645 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,400 she attempted to replace the highs of stardom 646 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,440 with alcohol, Mandrax and cocaine. 647 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,960 Eventually, she attempted suicide several times. 648 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:14,120 Dusty met Helene Sellery in 1976, at an alcoholics' support group. 649 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,960 Helene was on hand when Dusty started recording again in the late 70s, 650 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,280 And together, they were frequent visitors to the Wildlife Waystation. 651 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:30,240 If I had to say where her heart was in California, it would be here. 652 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,080 This was peace and quiet for her. 653 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,560 It was one-to-one rapport with the animals. 654 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,920 Yes, she had her cats and adored them, 655 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,080 but this was special, she came to get renewed here. 656 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:48,400 She would sit in front of the cat cages for hours, in silence. 657 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,440 She would try to mimic their sounds. 658 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,320 When I first knew her, she'd said, 659 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,760 "It gets lonely in the studios and there's a lot of cocaine around. 660 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,800 "I'd like you to come to rehearsals." I did for two-and-a-half albums. 661 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,840 She'd rehearse from 6pm till 4am. 662 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,280 Which is, in part, why this issue is difficult. 663 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,480 She was used to night performances, that's when her voice was ready. 664 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,920 I'd sit with earplugs reading Scientific American! 665 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,360 After the years of virtual silence, 666 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,640 Dusty's latest albums proved that although her voice was still alive, 667 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,600 her records were no longer selling. 668 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,400 Disillusioned, with America, 669 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,440 she stopped speaking of her old self, Mary O'Brien, 670 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,920 as someone to erase, but rather as the answer to her problems. 671 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,200 DUSTY: I've been singing all my life since I left convent school. 672 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,960 I hadn't a chance to grow up, I just became this monster 673 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,920 that I invented for myself to become. 674 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:19,000 # ...I was so frustrated, wanted to tear my hair out 675 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,680 # Can't seem to get a grip on your love. # 676 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,880 You get to Hollywood, and find yourself playing mental games 677 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,520 by looking down your hill and saying, "Well, it looks like Spain," 678 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560 because Spain is closer to England. 679 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,000 Did you ever really feel you belonged there? 680 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,720 Did you ever emotionally accept your life in Hollywood? Never. 681 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,560 I never came to terms with it. 682 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520 I loved the last house I lived in 683 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,280 because it was five minutes above Sunset Strip, 684 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,120 but I had coyotes and racoons and it was utterly quiet. 685 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,960 I could look over the whole city. That's an unbeatable feeling. 686 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,880 But outside of that, and that breeds extreme laziness...in me. 687 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:11,000 I handle idleness badly. I had to kick myself in the butt and get out. 688 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,960 My contribution was to get her out of LA, into Amsterdam. 689 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,320 LA is a desert land. It's disastrous. 690 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,360 The sun shines every bloody day. 691 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:28,000 There's nothing to do, unless you're rich and famous. She wasn't either. 692 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,720 # You always wanted a lover 693 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,640 # I only wanted a job... # 694 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,880 I didn't get involved until The Pet Shop Boys. 695 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,240 The reason I got involved was because 696 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:46,440 I just felt it was criminal that nothing was happening. 697 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,920 She was trying to get herself together, in terms of the drinking. 698 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,080 The record was brilliant, and if I didn't do it, I felt, 699 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,680 "Nobody's gonna do it. It'll be one record and she'll slip back again." 700 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,160 I think, by the 80s, Dusty thought it was all over. 701 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,200 Then we did this record with her, What Have I Done To Deserve This? 702 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,240 It was such a big hit, it's quite remarkable to think now. 703 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:17,000 It was Number Two in America. Number Two in Britain. 704 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440 Number one in the US sales chart. 705 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,600 # What have I, what have I... 706 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,160 # Since you went away, I've been hanging around 707 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,080 # I've been wondering why I'm feeling down 708 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,520 # You went away, it should make me feel better 709 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040 # But I don't know, oh 710 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,080 # How I'm gonna get through 711 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,000 # How I'm gonna get through. # 712 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,800 So suddenly she realised it wasn't all over. That she could be back. 713 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,560 And she really took that very, very seriously. 714 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,600 Later, we said, "Do you want to do this song from the film Scandal?" 715 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,640 It was set in 1963, Dusty was around then, 716 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,240 yet she was around in the late 80s, 717 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,720 so it seemed very resonant to get her to do it. 718 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:12,080 # It's a scandal It's a scandal, such a scandal. # 719 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,480 She was very creative, and a perfectionist. 720 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,120 So her way of recording was to stand behind the microphone, 721 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,080 with a cigarette and a cup of coffee 722 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,240 and the lyric sheet with lots of pencil marks on it, 723 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:30,080 and she would record word-by-word, or syllable-by-syllable, 724 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,800 gradually changing it. Very like someone doing a painting. 725 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,200 # Mandy's in the papers, cos she tried to go to Spain 726 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,520 # She'll soon be in the dock, then the papers once again 727 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,400 # Vicki's got her story about the mirror and the cane 728 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,840 # It may be false... # 729 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,000 So in every verse and chorus, the melody would be changed slightly. 730 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,520 Then, the last chorus would go through the ceiling. 731 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,880 # ...they may be false 732 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,520 # They may be true 733 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:15,200 # But nothing has been proved. # 734 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:21,200 That's one with The Pet Shop Boys. 735 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,840 It's quite important because it was them that brought her back, 736 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,480 bless their little hearts. 737 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,960 She'd be enormously grateful. 738 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,000 I didn't realise I had quite so many. 739 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,400 My favourite album. I loved that. 740 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:45,320 She did have beautiful eyes, didn't she? 741 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,320 # Tell me where is a woman to go? 742 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,320 # When she's feelin' low 743 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:04,880 # And all she wants to do is feel a little better... # 744 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,320 In 1994, soon after the completion 745 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,760 of the Nashville-recorded album, A Very Fine Love, 746 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,440 Dusty was diagnosed with breast cancer. 747 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,960 She'd only ever allowed her closest friends to see her out of character, without make-up. 748 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,520 She saw no reason now to challenge 749 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,000 the fans' image of Dusty Springfield. 750 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,080 She retreated to the Berkshire countryside, 751 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,600 away from the public gaze. 752 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:35,320 # ...All she wants to do is # Is feel a little better 753 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,800 # Tell me where # Where 754 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,840 # Pretty girl 755 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,440 # When she's feelin' low 756 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:51,200 # And all she wants to do is feel a little better 757 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,640 # Do, da, do, da, do, da, do, da, day 758 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,840 # Ahh! Do, da, do, da, do, da, do, da, day 759 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:22,320 # Do, da, do, da, do, da, do, dah, day. # 760 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:31,200 Dusty was a complete survivor. She lived to be nearly 60. 761 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,200 Her life simply wasn't tragic. 762 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,640 When she died, she was on an up. She'd sorted herself out financially. 763 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,480 She got the OBE from the Queen. 764 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,520 She got a beautiful house because she knew she'd be ill 765 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,040 and she wanted lovely views and friends nearby. 766 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960 She wanted her cats around. 767 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,560 She was thrilled that the illness took away the need to work. 768 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,720 She didn't have to feel guilty about not working. That was gone. 769 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,520 # I think I'm goin' back 770 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,400 # To the things I learned so well 771 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,880 # In my youth 772 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,600 # I think I'm returning to 773 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,680 # Those days when I was young enough 774 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,000 # To know the truth 775 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,120 # Now there are no games 776 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,560 # To only pass the time... # 777 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,880 Dusty's funeral was her last great performance. 778 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,920 She'd planned the horse and carriage 779 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,680 and stopped the traffic, just as she had wanted to, 780 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,440 and received a standing ovation 781 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,560 as her coffin left the church to the strains of Goin' Back. 782 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:09,440 # ..Growing older is no sin... # 783 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,560 It was an occasion that summed up the contradiction and complexities 784 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,000 of being Dusty. 785 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,560 She was quoted as saying she wanted to die as Mary O'Brien, 786 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,000 yet her funeral had the flourishes of Dusty, the star. 787 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,520 # ...To reach out to a friend 788 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,000 # And now I think I've got a lot... # 789 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,440 The Dusty I saw was different with different people. 790 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,160 She could be charming and she could be an absolute pain in the ass. 791 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,200 # ..Now there's more to do... # 792 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,800 Mary was a nice person. Dusty had to be Dusty. 793 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,840 # ..And every day can be... # 794 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,800 Mary was the real Dusty with Dusty bursting to get out! 795 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,560 # ..And I can play... # 796 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,360 It's easy to decide there were two people - Mary and Dusty - 797 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,160 but they were the one person. 798 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,800 Dusty was most definitely Dusty right to the end. 799 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:26,000 # ...I'm going back. # 800 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,840 I don't honestly think anybody 801 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,760 can truthfully say, "I know Dusty Springfield." 802 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,920 Or, "I know Mary O'Brien." 803 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,360 She always kept part of herself back from everybody. 804 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,200 I think that was her security. 805 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,080 Cos she knew she had a bit that didn't belong to anyone else. 806 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,680 She always had that hint of mystery. 807 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,640 # You don't have to say you love me 808 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,840 # Just be close at hand 809 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,320 # You don't have to stay for ever 810 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,400 # I will understand 811 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:12,240 # Believe me, believe me 812 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,880 # You don't have to say you love me 813 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,880 # Just be close at hand 814 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,640 # You don't have to stay for ever 815 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,560 # I will understand 816 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:32,520 # Believe me Ah! Believe me 817 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:39,960 # Believe me. # 818 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,080 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 819 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,600 MUSIC: "See All Her Faces" by Dusty Springfield 103044

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