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In "Money Matters" this morning,
Wall Street,
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where leaping stocks
have investors jumping.
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We're going to turn
the bull loose.
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Ivan Boesky:
One of the great things
about this nation
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is that we can seek profit.
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Shriver: Is money
the number-one goal?
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Yes.
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Rogers: We've had 29-year-olds
making $1 million a year,
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expecting to make $2 million
the year after that.
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Diana Ferry:
But if you've got plastic money,
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there's nothing
holding you back.
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History will prove
the Bakkers were honest people.
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Reporter: Insider trading could
become Wall Street's Watergate.
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Pauley: What do we call greed
the day before an indictment?
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I'm afraid recently,
we've called it success.
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♪♪
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Robinson:
The U.S. economy, which used to
be the envy of the world,
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is in the most serious trouble
since the Great Depression.
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Inflation is rising while our
standard of living is declining.
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Thomas:
There was tremendous inflation
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and not much growth.
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The country was not
in a great depression in 1980,
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but the United States
was in the dumps.
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Dobyns: On Wall Street, it was
cold, gray, wet, and miserable.
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There was no comfort
to be found outside.
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And for investors, there was
not much inside, either.
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The tickers carried
almost nothing but bad news.
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McLean: We'd come off
a terrible decade for investing.
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People were skeptical
of the stock market.
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It was a very sleepy Wall Street
back then.
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Most economists expect
a serious recession,
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with at least 2 million more
Americans losing their jobs.
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President Reagan:
I regret to say
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that we're in the worst economic
mess since the Great Depression.
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Literally from the first moments
of his presidency on,
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President Reagan let it be known
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that his top priority
is the nation's economy.
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I put a freeze
on pending regulations,
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and set up a task force
under Vice President Bush
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to review regulations
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with an eye toward getting rid
of as many as possible.
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The philosophy
behind deregulation
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was that markets worked better
than government controls.
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This bill represents
the first step
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in our administration's
comprehensive program
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of financial deregulation.
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Tett:
Introducing deregulation,
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finance began to get
much more creative
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and, frankly,
much more profitable, too.
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In "Money Matters" this morning,
Wall Street,
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where leaping stocks
have investors jumping.
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When the market opens
for trading this morning,
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the Dow Jones industrial Average
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will stand
at its highest level ever.
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Cordtz:
The past few months
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have been among the wildest
in Wall Street's history.
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I need 65.
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Stock and bond prices soared
in a frenzy of activity.
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Red sheet,
pick up Tanner!
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Optimists on Wall Street
are talking about
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the beginnings
of economic recovery.
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Gumbel:
The supporters of deregulation
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point to the soaring
stock market as evidence
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that a deregulated economy
makes money for everyone.
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Sorkin: The stock market
took off like a rocket,
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and the public
saw this happening,
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and they would read about it.
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And so all sorts of people
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who used to have
nothing to do with this world
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started pouring
their own money into it.
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And that's in large part
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also what drove prices
to go even higher.
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Donaldson:
The Ronald Reagan motorcade
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rolled onto Wall Street today
to the New York Stock Exchange.
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In the last five years,
we've moved from malaise
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to hope, confidence,
and opportunity
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with the volume of shares traded
hitting record highs
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and more Americans
than ever before
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participating in the market.
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We're bullish
on the American economy.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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[ Crowd chanting "Ronnie!" ]
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When Reagan shows up
at the Stock Exchange,
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them yelling "Ronnie! Ronnie!"
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is a way of saying
"America's back."
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And that was
Ronald Reagan's genius.
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He was able to link economic
faith with faith in America.
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Donaldson: No sitting president
had ever visited
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the New York Stock Exchange
before,
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but it seems safe to say
that no recent president
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would've beaten Mr. Reagan
for the honor
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if a vote had been taken
among the floor traders.
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They gave him
round after round of cheer.
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We're going to turn
the bull loose.
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Auletta: The whole world
from Reagan's White House on
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was basically saying Wall Street
is the engine of our economy.
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It represents growth,
it represents opportunity,
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it represents
the American dream.
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And so these guys were basically
saying "We're gonna go do it."
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Brokaw: This is the big draw
on Wall Street --
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the smell of money.
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This is where the action is.
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This is the over-the-counter
trading floor
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of Shearson/Lehman.
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More than 17,000
daily transactions
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involving millions of shares
and millions of dollars
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made and lost here every day.
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And it's a game
for young people.
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When you get home
at the end of the week
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and you look back on what you've
done sitting in this desk,
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what gives you
a sense of satisfaction?
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I guess, uh...
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making a lot of money.
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For yourself
or for the company?
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Myself and for the firm,
yeah.
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When the economy started to
recover and become more vibrant,
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I think there was a great sense
of exhilaration.
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You know, we survived
this miserable period,
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"Let's celebrate. Let's party.
We have money to spend."
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Today, the fad among young
people is to have big salaries,
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fancy clothes, and fast cars,
and they are called Yuppies.
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Rose: But who are these partiers
with portfolios,
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these Yuppies?
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A Yuppie is a person
who owns a Macintosh,
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who eats fine quiche,
and drinks white wine,
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and that's me.
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I'm having
a great time here.
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29-year-olds
making $1 million a year,
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expecting to make
a million and a half next year
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and $2 million
the year after that.
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Shriver: For this generation,
business is hip.
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Capitalism is no sin.
It's in.
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Shriver: Is money
the number-one goal?
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Yes.
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♪♪
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♪ All of the fun ♪
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♪ Is waiting for you
at the Castle ♪
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♪ Trump's Castle ♪
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Wallace: In a world where mere
millionaires are a dime a dozen.
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there's a new billionaire
in town.
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He's 40 years old,
his town is New York City,
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and he's made his money mainly
from Manhattan real estate.
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He puts his name on
almost everything he builds --
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says it's a symbol of quality.
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But others say
it's part of the hype.
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Troy: Donald Trump,
he is the brand,
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and he is the symbol
of a new swashbuckling approach
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to commerce,
to entrepreneurship,
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and also to
conspicuous consumption.
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Smith: We definitely
do now have people
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who have become celebrities
just from being rich.
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I'll take the Trumps
as a good example.
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I mean, their celebrity
is generally that they are rich.
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Donald Trump has also ventured
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into gambling
and professional football
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and says he could negotiate
a nuclear disarmament treaty
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with the Soviet Union.
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Wallace:
They say he's land-hungry,
money-hungry, power-hungry.
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The power is nonsense.
I love the creative process.
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Wallace: What about the name
of Trump City?
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Trump Tower
we're sitting in?
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Trump Plaza?
Trump Castle?
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It sells, Mike.
All I know is --
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That's all it is?
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It has nothing to do
with the ego.
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All I know
is it sells.
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What do you do?
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Security.
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We don't need
security here.
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Let's go outside.
We have people outside.
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Auletta: Leona Helmsley
was the wife of Harry Helmsley,
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one of the major --
much bigger than Trump --
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real estate developers
in New York.
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I asked for something.
I did not get it from you.
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I want it.
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You have nothing to do?
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Connelly: Leona Helmsley,
"The Queen of Mean."
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The idea was
that she was so mean
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because she wanted you to have
a great experience
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in one of her hotels.
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Really?
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Seemed like
she was just mean.
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Oh, my.
It's paradise.
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He stands here and he says
"I'm taking inventory,"
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I own this, I own this,
I own this,
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and that one and that one
and that one."
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He plays Monopoly,
but with real buildings.
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With real buildings.
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Wallace: They bought this
Connecticut estate a year ago --
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26 acres, 28 rooms --
for just the two of them.
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And this building structure
is just what?
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Tell him.
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It's the enclosure
of the swimming pool.
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And up top?
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On top, we're going to have,
of course, a dance floor.
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♪ Dance in
an old-fashioned way ♪
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Leona Helmsley became
a kind of a symbol
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of the excesses of the '80s.
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Am I comfortable?
I make a living.
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Kuralt:
This is the way we live now.
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Nice even temperature,
no rain, no snow,
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no loud noises,
music is playing.
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Everything's perfect
in the mall.
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Troy:
In the 1980s, you have 16,000
malls popping up like mushrooms.
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And they become the high temples
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of the great
American religion -- shopping.
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Kuralt: Pam and Melissa,
15 years old,
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come to the mall
almost every day.
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They call themselves
mallrats.
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I love it, too,
Pam.
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It's only $24.
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Tett: Consumerism definitely
took off in the '80s.
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People emerged from the 1970s,
which were tough economic times,
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and went "Wow,
we can now spend."
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I want you to think about
this Florentine Plum also.
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Honey, that's what's gonna
set your eyes off.
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Brands:
The economy started growing,
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and it was largely
a consumer-driven growth.
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But the consumer economy
was funded by debt.
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Kiker:
The national bankruptcy rate
is soaring.
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Greg and Diana Ferry --
annual income $32,000.
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They had over $12,000
in unsecured debts
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when they bought a new home.
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Then they bought
a new washer, a dryer,
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a microwave oven,
and a Betamax TV recorder.
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Then they went bankrupt.
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I knew I didn't have the money,
but if you've got plastic money,
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there's nothing
holding you back.
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All of a sudden, it became
very acceptable to have debt.
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It became very acceptable
to have a credit card.
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More than acceptable
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if you wanted to pull it out
of your wallet and use it.
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Live from Tampa Bay, Florida,
it's the Home Shopping Club.
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[ Horn squeaks ]
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Safer:
Every doodad and and tchotchke
that man's hand hath wrought.
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Americans seem utterly hooked
on home shopping.
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Your order has been completed
for one of the ruby bracelets.
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So, I have you down for two
of the plush musical bunnies.
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[ Cowbell clanging ]
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Safer: There are
Home Shopping Club parties.
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Like-minded consumers
gather together
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to do what comes naturally.
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I want four
of those bird figurines.
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You don't have to
leave your house,
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and stuff will come to you.
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Welcome to America.
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Jim Bakker:
Give us 300 more people
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to call on their credit card,
right now...
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If you and enough people
will send me $100 immediately,
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I need some very quick money.
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Go to the phone right now.
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Now!
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Quit talking about
saying you believe in God
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without ever acting on his word.
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Now!
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Faith is an act!
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Koppel: In all, there are
1,600 television ministers.
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And of the $1.5 billion
grossed annually,
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just three of them --
Pat Robertson's,
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Jimmy Swaggart's,
and Jim Bakker's --
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took in close to $500 million.
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Safer: The prime-time preachers
say they need the money
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to stay on the air,
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and they need to stay on the air
to raise money --
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money for the kind
of electronic equipment
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any network
would be proud to own.
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I believe God wants us
in the next 30 days
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to have every one of these bills
paid in full,
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and PTL can live
if we pay our bills.
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It pays the bills
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if we would all just do
[Voice breaking] something.
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Troy:
As televangelism grows,
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Jim Bakker is the one
who truly gets it.
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He understands that preaching
on television is not just about
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standing up and giving
a fire-and-brimstone speech.
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He understands
that in the age of television,
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the Johnny Carson approach
to televangelism,
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that being more intimate,
showing your lifestyle,
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and your beautiful family
is essential
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because it brings people in.
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And he's
a brilliant entrepreneur,
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and he's a brilliant salesman
of himself.
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♪ PTL ♪
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And now here are Jim and Tammy!
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Clayton:
Their appeal is powerful.
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Last year,
a million people responded
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to the Bakkers' constant request
for money.
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Tammy Bakker:
How many do you have right now?
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Just about 30.
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30 what?
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Silver 7000 clubs.
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That's $90,000.
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Praise God.
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Clayton: The Bakkers
have been criticized
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for their own lavish lifestyle.
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Well, just because
I'm a Christian
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doesn't mean I don't like
nice things, either.
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I love nice things,
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and Jim and I work
very, very hard for nice things.
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They say the only difference
between men and boys
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is the price
of their toys.
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Rose: Toys like
a fleet of luxury cars
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and a string of fancy homes
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from Palm Springs, California,
to Tega Cay, South Carolina.
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Troy: They create what I call
the "Gospel of Prosperity"
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where they think
that by them living well,
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by them having Rolls-Royces
that everyone will think, "Ah.
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God is shining his countenance
upon them, and thus upon us."
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And PTL also becomes the vehicle
for their media empire,
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for their theme parks.
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Jim Bakker: If we are to be
fishers of men --
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that's what the Bible says,
we are fishers of men --
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we've been using
some pretty lousy bait.
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We've just built better bait
to reach people.
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You can have
a lifetime partnership with PTL
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for a one-time gift of $1,000.
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Four days and three nights
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every year
for the rest of your life.
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Troy: That mix of God and greed
ends up derailing them,
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and ends up leading them
to breaking the very rules
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that they are preaching about.
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Television evangelist Jim Bakker
has stepped down
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as the head of
the Praise the Lord,
or PTL, ministry.
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Hazinski: Bakker's resignation
reportedly came
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because of a sexual encounter
seven years ago.
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Hall: Jessica Hahn
is to be paid monthly
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as long as she keeps quiet
about the incident.
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It turns out that Jim Bakker has
been paying off this secretary,
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and that shakes
the evangelical world.
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The evidence seems to indicate
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that effort and money have been
expended to cover moral failure.
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If Jim Bakker paid Jessica Hahn
"hush money,"
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what else has he been doing
with the PTL money?
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Do you worry about
the investigations
that are going on?
Jim and Tammy: Not at all.
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History will prove
the Bakkers were honest people.
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We interrupt this program
for an NBC News Special Report.
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Jim Bakker, the defrocked head
of the PTL ministry,
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has been found guilty
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on all 24 counts
of fraud and conspiracy
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by a jury
in Charlotte, North Carolina.
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Jones:
Bakker kept selling lifetime
partnerships at Heritage USA
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even though he knew
they were oversold.
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For example,
the Heritage Grand Hotel
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could accommodate
only 25,000 partnerships,
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but 65,000 were sold.
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And for the lower-priced
Bunkhouse partnerships,
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about 7,000 were sold
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for a building
that had only eight rooms.
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Gumbel: Estelle Pollard sent
Jim and Tammy Bakker's PTL Club
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$15 a month for 15 years.
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She thought
that by giving to them,
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God would ease her pain
and that of her ailing husband.
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I have been one to help make
millionaires out of those people
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when I don't have enough
to even live on.
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Jones: Bakker could be sentenced
to 120 years in prison
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and fined over $5 million.
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I would say I feel sad,
but encouraged in God.
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Hall:
Tammy Bakker said she could best
describe her feelings in song.
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♪ On Christ,
the solid rock I stand ♪
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♪ All other ground
is sinking sand ♪
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Smith: Today, we travel
to the Lone Star State
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to visit tycoon entrepreneur
T. Boone Pickens,
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the highest paid CEO
in the country.
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Even here,
Wall Street is in charge.
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Wall Street being a parrot --
green, as in money.
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He reigns over an entry foyer
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that runs
the entire length of the house,
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and at the end
of that long foyer,
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we find this morning
Boone Pickens.
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Good morning, sir.
How are you?
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Good morning, Harry.
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Why don't we go ahead
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and head into the trophy room,
if you don't mind?
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Sure.
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Nocera: T. Boone Pickens
was a Texas oilman
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who became
the original corporate raider.
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He would buy a bunch of stock
in the company,
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talk about how the executives
needed to be tossed out,
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and make a play
to take over the company.
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Rodriguez: Pickens' company,
Mesa Petroleum,
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which is only
1/20th the size of Phillips,
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moves first by buying
5.8% of the stock privately.
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Now Pickens lets it be known
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that he wants to buy another 15%
from the shareholders
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and thus gain a seat
on the corporate board.
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There's one thing
I want to put in place,
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is that stockholders
own companies
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and managements are employees.
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Stahl:
Phillips agreed to buy back
its stock from T. Boone Pickens
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to stop his takeover bid.
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The profit to Pickens
and his partners -- $89 million.
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It is no secret that you've made
about a half a billion dollars
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through losing
on your attempted takeovers.
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Do you go into it
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anticipating that a loss is
still gonna stand you very well?
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Well, you never like to lose,
but if you lose and make money,
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well, it makes it
a little easier.
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I remember I was someplace
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and the guy got up and said,
"I have a question."
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He said, "You're making
a lot of money out of this,"
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and I said,
"The shareholders are, too."
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He said, "Yes,
but you're a fast-buck artist."
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"Fast-buck artist."
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I said, "Who in the hell
would want to be known
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as a slow-buck artist?"
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I see it as a free-enterprise
system working at its best.
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Burrough: Pickens was really
the first major investor
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to realize how undervalued
American companies were
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and what you could buy there.
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And it was his early tilts
at Gulf, City Services,
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all these famous deals
that brought this new reality
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to the attention
of other investors,
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who followed in his wake
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and sought to imitate
what he did.
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I freely admit that
I'm an investor and
I want to make a profit.
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I freely admit
I'm not Robin Hood.
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It is not wrong to want
to profit in capitalist America.
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It's fair.
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Delaney:
Ivan Boesky has made a fortune
buying into companies
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being pursued
by takeover artists.
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Boesky doesn't want
to run those companies --
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just to profit from the run-up
in their stock prices.
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Levine:
Forbes magazine lists Boesky
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among the 400 richest people
in America,
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estimating his wealth
at well over $200 million.
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Where's my share
of the profits?
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Stewart: Ivan Boesky
gave the commencement speech
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1986 at Berkeley,
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and he really became famous
for one line in that speech.
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[ Laughter,
cheers and applause ]
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[ Laughter ]
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Stourton:
A new film, "Wall Street,"
used Boesky's words
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as the basis
for some of the dialogue.
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Greed is good.
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Greed is right.
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Greed works.
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[ Applause ]
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Auletta: When Michael Douglas,
in the movie,
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said, "Greed is good," I mean,
it was a cartoon expression.
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But there's truth to it.
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There was a sense
that it is okay to be greedy,
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it is okay
to maximize your wealth.
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What I want to see above all
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is that this country
remains a country
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where someone
can always get rich.
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Brokaw: Big companies
gobbling up little companies.
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Little companies
gobbling up big companies.
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Eight years ago, there were
1,500 corporate takeovers.
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Last year, there were 4,000,
involving $200 billion.
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Aug: This type of deal is called
a leveraged buyout.
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The company borrows the money
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using its assets
as collateral for the loan.
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In return
the company issues IOUs.
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Because the deal is so risky,
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those IOUs carry
very high interest rates,
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and they're called junk bonds.
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Now, you may not have heard
of Michael Milken
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of the investment banking firm
of Drexel Burnham Lambert, Inc.,
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but this 40-year-old
Wall Street whiz
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is said to be the most powerful
financier in America.
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He brought respectability
to low-rated junk bonds
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and then used the money
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to finance corporate raids
and takeovers.
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Without Mike Milken
T. Boone Pickens couldn't
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have raided Gulf, Unocal,
and Phillips Petroleum.
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Pickens: The Gulf deal
was the first time I saw Milken.
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He said, "If you really want
to take over Gulf,
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it's gonna cost you
$13 billion."
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[ Laughing ]
And I said, "Yeah, I get it."
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And he said,
"I can get the $13 billion."
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Palmer: He's the guy
that T. Boone Pickens goes to,
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and most people
haven't heard of him.
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Well, that's just the way
he likes it.
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He doesn't care about publicity.
He doesn't care about pride.
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All he cares about
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is making money, doing deals,
and having power.
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Burrough: He was this shadowy
Howard Hughes-like figure
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that those of us
even in the press never saw,
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you just heard
[Whispering] "It's Milken."
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But, you know,
it was Milken's genius --
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and I think
that is the correct word --
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that created an entire market
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and fueled
this takeover phenomena.
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Reich: We romanticize
these characters.
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The fact of the matter is,
these are fat cats,
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first cousins
to the financial manipulators,
487
00:20:45,327 --> 00:20:47,872
the robber barons
of the late 19th century.
488
00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:49,289
These guys are out there,
489
00:20:49,331 --> 00:20:51,667
they're trying to make a buck
by doing nothing.
490
00:20:51,709 --> 00:20:54,545
and they're putting people
out of work.
491
00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:57,131
Kent: Economists agree
that some unemployment,
492
00:20:57,173 --> 00:21:00,676
some hardship is unavoidable,
in the vitally important process
493
00:21:00,718 --> 00:21:03,512
of making the United States
lean and mean again --
494
00:21:03,554 --> 00:21:06,599
what the takeover specialists
call corporate restructuring.
495
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,894
Corporate America needs
some kick now and then
496
00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:12,021
to become
a little bit more efficient,
497
00:21:12,063 --> 00:21:13,480
a little bit less entrenched,
498
00:21:13,522 --> 00:21:16,316
and that will probably
do our economy a lot of good.
499
00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:18,778
Thursday, Goodyear fended off
a hostile takeover bid,
500
00:21:18,819 --> 00:21:20,320
but victory didn't come cheap.
501
00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:23,783
Smith:
Goodyear won by buying back
roughly half its stock
502
00:21:23,824 --> 00:21:25,325
and taking on a huge debt.
503
00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:28,121
Plants were closed
and workers laid off.
504
00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:30,915
The company pays
$1 million a day in interest
505
00:21:30,957 --> 00:21:33,333
to 17 banks worldwide.
506
00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:36,045
These fellas jump out
of the closet, shout "Gotcha,"
507
00:21:36,087 --> 00:21:38,422
and they buy up a company
with its own assets,
508
00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:39,924
dismember it,
509
00:21:39,966 --> 00:21:43,510
and erode the industrial base
of this country.
510
00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:45,345
Maybe we didn't understand
how it all worked,
511
00:21:45,387 --> 00:21:49,058
but we saw a lot of people
losing their jobs
512
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:52,019
and a few people
getting super-rich
513
00:21:52,061 --> 00:21:55,815
and the vibe of the culture
being "That's cool."
514
00:21:55,856 --> 00:21:57,399
Kent:
How much is enough?
515
00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:58,358
Enough what?
516
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,236
Enough money,
enough power,
517
00:22:00,278 --> 00:22:02,362
enough influence,
enough takeovers?
518
00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,657
This is my work.
This is what I do.
519
00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:06,033
Let me do what I do.
520
00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:08,327
It's not a question
of how much. [ Snickers ]
521
00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:10,746
Miller:
It was a week to remember.
522
00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:12,748
Banker's hours
posted on the doors
523
00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,085
of savings and loan institutions
in Ohio didn't mean a thing.
524
00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:17,377
The doors were locked.
525
00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:19,379
The run on Ohio's
savings and loans began
526
00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:22,258
when Home State Savings Bank
was besieged by depositors
527
00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:23,425
who demanded their money.
528
00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:26,553
I don't have a whole lot,
and I'm 79 years old,
529
00:22:26,595 --> 00:22:28,388
and, golly, I need that money.
530
00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:31,391
Celeste: I made a decision
after weighing several options
531
00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:33,269
that we had to close all 71
532
00:22:33,311 --> 00:22:35,980
of the privately insured
savings and loan institutions.
533
00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:38,398
Vito: Celeste is faced
with the dilemma of solving
534
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,400
the worst financial crisis
in Ohio history,
535
00:22:40,442 --> 00:22:43,445
a situation that is being called
the worst banking crisis
536
00:22:43,487 --> 00:22:45,447
in the U.S.
since the Depression.
537
00:22:45,489 --> 00:22:49,243
In the deregulatory climate
of the 1980s, savings and loans,
538
00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:52,288
which had traditionally invested
only in mortgages,
539
00:22:52,330 --> 00:22:55,499
were free to invest in pretty
much anything they wanted.
540
00:22:55,541 --> 00:22:58,919
Basically what happened was,
the entire S&L industry
541
00:22:58,961 --> 00:23:01,672
got taken over
by a bunch of entrepreneurs
542
00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,465
who saw them as piggy banks.
543
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:07,261
Abel:
Vernon Savings was shut down
by federal regulators,
544
00:23:07,303 --> 00:23:10,097
saddled with $1.3 billion
in bad loans.
545
00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:13,059
The owner, Don Dixon,
lived a life of private jets,
546
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,434
yachts, and mansions.
547
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:18,314
They took risks that should've
been untenable for a banker,
548
00:23:18,356 --> 00:23:20,233
and when that all went blooey,
549
00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:23,277
the entire industry
ultimately went belly up.
550
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:24,862
Well, get in line
so we can have this --
551
00:23:24,904 --> 00:23:26,446
I am in line!
I'm next!
552
00:23:26,488 --> 00:23:27,907
Quiet down!
Man: Guys,
quiet down!
553
00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:29,909
I'm going to disperse
the whole bunch of you.
554
00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:31,451
McCarthy:
This was the third day
555
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:34,121
of the run on the Old Court
Savings and Loan Association.
556
00:23:34,163 --> 00:23:35,497
The only thing I can do
at this point,
557
00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:38,125
I have no choice --
we have to close.
558
00:23:38,167 --> 00:23:40,627
I don't think it's right.
That's our money.
559
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:44,173
This year, a record 260 banks
will go bust.
560
00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:47,467
That's almost 800
in the past five years.
561
00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:50,971
Bad loans to the Third World,
bad loans to the oil industry,
562
00:23:51,013 --> 00:23:53,349
bad loans
to real estate developers.
563
00:23:53,391 --> 00:23:56,476
Nocera: One of the reasons
bankers made outrageous loans
564
00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:59,479
was because
of Federal Deposit Insurance.
565
00:23:59,521 --> 00:24:02,482
If the loan went well,
then you rake in the profit.
566
00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:03,525
If the loan went poorly,
567
00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:05,778
then the federal government
picks up the tab.
568
00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:08,739
Collins: With deregulation,
the S&Ls got into
569
00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:10,950
that commercial
real estate market
570
00:24:10,991 --> 00:24:12,910
and lost their shirt.
571
00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:14,494
Pizzo:
All over the United States,
572
00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:15,913
people were building projects
573
00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:17,706
for which
there were no buyers --
574
00:24:17,748 --> 00:24:21,710
mile after mile of these
partially completed condos.
575
00:24:21,752 --> 00:24:24,338
And they're all
on the S&Ls books.
576
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:25,505
There's something wrong
577
00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:27,507
about the savings and loan
industry today.
578
00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:28,801
And it isn't me.
579
00:24:28,842 --> 00:24:33,180
Charles Keating was a lawyer
who got into banking
580
00:24:33,222 --> 00:24:35,975
and was able to buy
a savings and loan.
581
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,227
Kroft: When Keating bought
Lincoln Savings and Loan
582
00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:41,521
of Irvine, California, he used
it as a private piggy bank
583
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:44,524
for his own ambitions,
like the Phoenician Hotel,
584
00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:48,028
which cost $500,000 per room
to build.
585
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:50,572
That hotel
is a magnificent investment
586
00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:52,532
for savings and loan's dollars.
587
00:24:52,574 --> 00:24:54,118
No question about it.
588
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,578
The real problem is, when
our appraisers looked at it,
589
00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:58,747
they said, "Eh,
it's not such a bad hotel,
590
00:24:58,789 --> 00:25:01,041
but it's worth $200 million,
not $300 million.
591
00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:03,043
Pizzo: Bill Black was
one of the chief regulators
592
00:25:03,085 --> 00:25:04,544
at the Federal Home
Loan Bank Board,
593
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:07,840
who was really the guy who
spearheaded going after Keating.
594
00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:11,385
Black:
We discovered likely fraud --
595
00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:16,556
just really basic things
that no honest bankers would do.
596
00:25:16,598 --> 00:25:19,143
"The examiners looked
at 52 real estate loans
597
00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:20,560
that Lincoln had made...
598
00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:25,649
There were no credit reports
on the borrowers in all 52."
599
00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:27,818
And on top of that,
Charles Keating
600
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:33,573
has Lincoln Savings
sell uninsured junk bonds,
601
00:25:33,615 --> 00:25:37,036
and he targets the widows
in the retirement community.
602
00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:39,579
Goldin:
There were 23,000 customers
603
00:25:39,621 --> 00:25:43,625
who would buy $250 million
of these bonds.
604
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,045
We had sold our home
in Sherman Oaks.
605
00:25:46,086 --> 00:25:47,629
My husband had had a stroke.
606
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:48,964
We moved down here,
607
00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:51,091
went to Lincoln Savings
down here.
608
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:52,510
Goldin:
How much is your debenture?
609
00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:53,886
You really
want to know?
610
00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:55,429
Yes.
611
00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:58,849
It was $30,000, and for us,
that was quite a bit.
612
00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:02,602
[ Crowd murmuring ]
613
00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:06,190
"Capitalize on this,"
the bond salesmen were told.
614
00:26:06,232 --> 00:26:11,111
"The weak, meek, and ignorant
are always good targets."
615
00:26:11,153 --> 00:26:13,239
The regulators were looking
at this and saying, you know,
616
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,616
"This guy is a disaster, man.
We have got to stop this."
617
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:17,868
But by that time,
618
00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:20,704
Keating had a construction
company in Arizona,
619
00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:22,622
he had thrifts in California.
620
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:24,833
His tentacles sprayed out
to several states,
621
00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:28,628
so he was able to call on
congressmen and senators
622
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:33,008
like that and say, "Hey,
get these dogs off my back."
623
00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:35,553
This morning, the S&L crisis
goes to Capitol Hill.
624
00:26:35,593 --> 00:26:36,803
The Senate Ethics Committee
625
00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:39,098
is looking into charges
against five senators
626
00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:41,641
accused of intervening
with federal banking officials
627
00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:44,103
on behalf
of S&L owner Charles Keating.
628
00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:47,147
The so-called Keating Five
are Republican John McCain
629
00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:49,483
and Democrats Alan Cranston,
John Glenn,
630
00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:51,485
Donald Regal,
and Dennis DeConcini.
631
00:26:51,527 --> 00:26:55,322
The Keating Five reportedly
received a total of $1.3 million
632
00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:58,658
in campaign contributions
or donations to favorite causes.
633
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,287
Former bank board chairman
Edwin Gray says the senators
634
00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:03,956
tried to subvert
the regulatory process.
635
00:27:03,997 --> 00:27:06,666
I was told to come alone.
636
00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:07,667
I did.
637
00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:09,669
Kroft:
Did you find that unusual?
638
00:27:09,711 --> 00:27:11,671
[ Scoffs ] Absolutely.
639
00:27:11,713 --> 00:27:13,048
Never happened before.
640
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:15,675
The whole time
I was in Washington,
641
00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:17,136
I never saw that.
642
00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:18,678
No witnesses?
643
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,097
No. No witnesses.
644
00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:23,683
Deniability perfectly built into
the meeting.
645
00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:25,936
Black: They said
they wanted us not to take
646
00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,688
the enforcement action
against Lincoln Savings.
647
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:31,942
The only thing
that got them to back off
648
00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:35,737
is when we finally said, "We're
making criminal referrals.
649
00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:37,697
You're going to bat
for criminals."
650
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:40,618
Mitchell: Now awaiting trial
on charges of criminal fraud,
651
00:27:40,658 --> 00:27:42,702
Keating has refused
to testify to the Senate.
652
00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:46,165
McCain:
Was there something wrong
with five senators meeting?
653
00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:47,749
Yes, it's a bad appearance.
654
00:27:47,791 --> 00:27:50,294
But the real question is,
655
00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:52,963
Did John McCain
abuse his office?
656
00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:56,592
The evidence indicates
clearly "No."
657
00:27:56,634 --> 00:27:58,718
Brinkley: The Keating Five
became a symbol of the '80s,
658
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,430
'cause it's a group
of distinguished U.S. senators
659
00:28:01,472 --> 00:28:03,599
that are accused
of taking bribe money.
660
00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:05,809
They get off the hook
eventually,
661
00:28:05,851 --> 00:28:09,980
but it really rocked the country
because it showed that not only
662
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:13,733
was corporate America
being questioned for corruption,
663
00:28:13,775 --> 00:28:17,196
but the U.S. Senate seemed to be
a beehive of bribery.
664
00:28:17,237 --> 00:28:20,199
One question among the many
raised in recent weeks
665
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,742
had to do with
whether my financial support
666
00:28:22,784 --> 00:28:26,746
in any way influenced
several political figures
667
00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:28,748
who took up my cause.
668
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:33,587
I want to say in the most
forceful way that I can --
669
00:28:33,629 --> 00:28:35,297
I certainly hope so.
670
00:28:36,714 --> 00:28:39,051
Robinson: The financial scandal
causing increasing concern
671
00:28:39,092 --> 00:28:41,470
involves investors who make
killings on Wall Street
672
00:28:41,512 --> 00:28:43,055
not because of luck or skill,
673
00:28:43,096 --> 00:28:45,140
but because
of inside information
674
00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:46,766
not available to anyone else.
675
00:28:46,808 --> 00:28:49,603
Martin:
This coded document might be
a secret earnings report
676
00:28:49,645 --> 00:28:51,771
showing disastrous losses
677
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,650
or a confidential assessment
of future profits.
678
00:28:54,692 --> 00:28:57,777
If you are one of the 32 million
Americans who own stock,
679
00:28:57,819 --> 00:29:01,490
such information can either cost
you money or earn you money --
680
00:29:01,532 --> 00:29:04,660
perhaps millions of dollars --
if you find it out first.
681
00:29:04,702 --> 00:29:06,370
In either case, it is illegal.
682
00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:09,707
The single biggest currency
on Wall Street
683
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,084
has always been information.
684
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:13,252
And in the '80s,
685
00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:15,795
that information
was trading back and forth.
686
00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:17,881
And investors
were talking to their buddies
687
00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:20,426
they went to business school
and law school with,
688
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:22,802
who were actually working
on these deals, to find out.
689
00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:24,263
It was pervasive.
690
00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:25,847
Feldman: The Security
and Exchange Commission,
691
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:27,807
which monitors potential abuses,
692
00:29:27,849 --> 00:29:30,810
says that currently,
penalties aren't strict enough.
693
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,896
This is a serious course
of misconduct,
694
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:35,524
and that at present,
the sanction is simply akin
695
00:29:35,566 --> 00:29:37,526
to asking someone
to put the cookies
696
00:29:37,568 --> 00:29:38,818
back in the cookie jar.
697
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:39,861
In tonight's "Money Matters,"
698
00:29:39,903 --> 00:29:42,822
the biggest
insider stock trading case ever.
699
00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:44,824
Gumbel: Investment banker
Dennis Levine
700
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:48,328
collected $12.5 million
in illegal profits.
701
00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:50,289
He did it
by getting advance knowledge
702
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:51,831
of 54 pending takeovers.
703
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,041
Then from a phone booth,
704
00:29:53,083 --> 00:29:55,043
he would call an accomplice
in the Bahamas,
705
00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:57,837
who would buy stocks in the
names of two dummy corporations,
706
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,339
which Levine had set up
in Panama.
707
00:29:59,381 --> 00:30:00,924
Aug: The Levine case
was the first time
708
00:30:00,966 --> 00:30:03,552
the SEC's been able
to nail down insider trading
709
00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:05,721
by one of Wall Street's
big dealmakers --
710
00:30:05,763 --> 00:30:07,931
somebody with
a $1 million-a-year salary,
711
00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:09,767
which, apparently,
wasn't enough.
712
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:13,687
Brady: Insider trading could
become Wall Street's Watergate.
713
00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:16,898
Cassidy: Plea bargaining is now
under way with Dennis Levine.
714
00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:19,943
Authorities might be able to
develop a list of new suspects.
715
00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,529
Carberry:
We started the investigation,
716
00:30:22,571 --> 00:30:26,074
and once his lawyer advised him
his interest to cooperate,
717
00:30:26,116 --> 00:30:28,327
he would give you
the information.
718
00:30:28,368 --> 00:30:30,496
To him,
it was just another deal.
719
00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:32,456
I think the judge made it clear
720
00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:35,875
that he would have given
Mr. Levine a heavier sentence,
721
00:30:35,917 --> 00:30:37,753
except for the cooperation.
722
00:30:37,795 --> 00:30:41,089
Baird: Dennis Levine was one guy
doing insider trading,
723
00:30:41,131 --> 00:30:43,049
and that's not something
that's new.
724
00:30:43,091 --> 00:30:45,803
But what Dennis Levine did
was lead to Ivan Boesky.
725
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,763
The Securities and Exchange
Commission
726
00:30:47,805 --> 00:30:49,889
stunned Wall Street today
when it announced
727
00:30:49,931 --> 00:30:51,809
that investor Ivan Boesky
has been fined
728
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,812
the largest penalty ever
for insider stock trading,
729
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,897
and he has been barred now
from the securities industry.
730
00:30:57,939 --> 00:31:00,984
Monsees:
Boesky did what he publicly
claimed he would never do --
731
00:31:01,026 --> 00:31:04,904
use insider information
to buy huge blocks of stock
732
00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:08,617
in companies secretly involved
in takeover deals.
733
00:31:08,659 --> 00:31:10,910
Ivan Boesky
was an out-and-out crook,
734
00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:12,912
handing bags of cash to people
735
00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:14,914
who would give him
inside information.
736
00:31:14,956 --> 00:31:18,001
If we had capital punishment
for white-collar crimes,
737
00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:20,212
I'd say
he'd be a prime candidate.
738
00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:23,006
Stourton:
Ivan Boesky arrived in court
to hear himself described
739
00:31:23,048 --> 00:31:25,925
as a man whose arrogance
has been stripped away.
740
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,220
There's no doubt that the man
has become a symbol
741
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:29,929
of what's wrong
with Wall Street.
742
00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:31,390
The news
of the Boesky indictment
743
00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:34,852
was like the bombshell
of the decade on Wall Street.
744
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,645
What do we call greed
the day before
745
00:31:36,687 --> 00:31:38,938
an indictment is filed,
if you get my meaning?
746
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,024
I'm afraid recently,
we've called it success --
747
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:43,527
that some of the people
who have now turned out
748
00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:45,738
to have been engaged
in criminal activity,
749
00:31:45,779 --> 00:31:47,989
such as Ivan Boesky,
were being hailed as heroes
750
00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:50,367
while they were
at the peak of their careers.
751
00:31:50,409 --> 00:31:52,661
Green: Millions
of America's small investors
752
00:31:52,703 --> 00:31:54,788
have been appalled
at the Boesky affair.
753
00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:57,833
I think they should get every
one of them, put them in jail.
754
00:31:57,875 --> 00:31:59,251
Jensen: Since 1984,
755
00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:03,004
there had been more than 48
cases of insider trading
756
00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:06,966
brought by New York's
U.S. Attorney Rudolph Giuliani.
757
00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:09,595
Back then, Rudy had the aura,
essentially, of being
758
00:32:09,636 --> 00:32:12,138
the best man in law enforcement
without a cape.
759
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:13,849
Maybe we can't catch
all of them,
760
00:32:13,891 --> 00:32:15,684
but we sure as heck
can deliver a message,
761
00:32:15,726 --> 00:32:18,437
which is if you do get caught,
you are gonna lose your liberty.
762
00:32:18,478 --> 00:32:19,897
You're gonna go to prison.
763
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:23,358
Today, as the prospect of a much
wider scandal seems certain,
764
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,903
the market was off
more than 40 points.
765
00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:28,781
This after it was learned
that Ivan Boesky was talking,
766
00:32:28,822 --> 00:32:29,989
and then some.
767
00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:31,991
Braver: As one
former SEC official put it,
768
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:34,578
this is like arresting
the madam of a brothel
769
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,996
and finding
her private book of clients.
770
00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:39,917
This guy Boesky takes a fall,
and all over Wall Street,
771
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:42,001
they're practically
jumping out windows.
772
00:32:42,043 --> 00:32:44,922
It comes out that he's been
taping his phone calls,
773
00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:47,674
and maybe his private talks,
for three months.
774
00:32:47,716 --> 00:32:50,302
And Wall Street big shots
begin wetting their --
775
00:32:50,343 --> 00:32:51,511
Well, you get the idea.
776
00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:53,680
Stewart: Of course
Ivan Boesky was guilty.
777
00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:57,016
There was gonna be no defense.
All he had was bargaining power.
778
00:32:57,058 --> 00:32:58,518
Who could he deliver?
779
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,645
Well,
let me ask you this.
780
00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:03,482
Levine was a fish,
Boesky was a shark.
781
00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:06,401
Who's the whale
that they're gonna catch?
782
00:33:06,443 --> 00:33:07,653
I don't know.
783
00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:09,028
Drexel Burnham?
784
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:11,197
Well, that's --
that's possible.
785
00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:14,284
In the middle of all of this
is Drexel Burnham Lambert --
786
00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:17,329
until a few years ago,
a little-known Wall Street firm.
787
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:20,039
Then it shot to the top
of this high-stakes world
788
00:33:20,081 --> 00:33:22,459
by specializing
in so-called junk bonds --
789
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,544
high-interest
but also high-risk.
790
00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:26,045
Aug:
The commission says Drexel
791
00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,131
and the head of its junk bond
department, Michael Milken,
792
00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:29,341
made a secret deal
793
00:33:29,382 --> 00:33:31,760
with convicted stock swindler
Ivan Boesky
794
00:33:31,802 --> 00:33:34,053
to make millions of dollars
illegally.
795
00:33:34,095 --> 00:33:35,054
Krulwich: For example,
796
00:33:35,096 --> 00:33:37,056
California company Wix
came to Milken's firm
797
00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:39,058
and told them
that it was planning a takeover.
798
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,060
The government charges
that Milken, in effect,
799
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,063
went and whispered that secret
to Ivan Boesky in New York.
800
00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:45,941
So Boesky bought the stock
before it went up,
801
00:33:45,983 --> 00:33:47,985
made millions, shared
the profits with Milken's firm,
802
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:49,277
but the bottom line is,
803
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:53,072
Milken betrayed his client,
charged a million-dollar fee,
804
00:33:53,114 --> 00:33:55,868
and then secretly earned
$6.5 million more
805
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:57,160
at the client's expense.
806
00:33:57,202 --> 00:33:58,787
Levine:
Authorities are worried
807
00:33:58,829 --> 00:34:02,165
that further disclosures
resulting from the Boesky affair
808
00:34:02,207 --> 00:34:05,544
may weaken public confidence
in financial markets
809
00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:08,005
and weaken the markets
themselves.
810
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:11,800
[ Indistinct talking ]
811
00:34:11,842 --> 00:34:14,093
I just came from inside,
and it looks like a madhouse.
812
00:34:14,135 --> 00:34:15,595
I guess
the bull market's over, huh?
813
00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:17,597
It's a bloodbath down there.
814
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,099
Brady: They're calling it
The Monday Massacre --
815
00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:22,101
the worst drop
in Wall Street history.
816
00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:24,103
Well, I'd call it
the nearest thing to a meltdown
817
00:34:24,145 --> 00:34:25,104
I ever want to see.
818
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:26,606
Brady: By the closing bell,
819
00:34:26,648 --> 00:34:30,819
the Dow Jones Industrial Average
was down more than 500 points.
820
00:34:30,861 --> 00:34:32,821
This was a crash that people
hadn't seen, frankly,
821
00:34:32,863 --> 00:34:34,113
since the Great Depression.
822
00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:37,116
No one had seen the stock market
fall that quickly that fast.
823
00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:40,829
Brokaw: Paper losses --
more than $500 billion.
824
00:34:40,871 --> 00:34:45,709
October 19, 1987 --
Wall Street's Black Monday.
825
00:34:45,751 --> 00:34:49,128
McLean: That crash
was one of the first signs
826
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:51,840
of how dangerous
this new era could be --
827
00:34:51,882 --> 00:34:54,801
that what the market had given,
the market could take away,
828
00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:57,220
and it could take it away
really, really quickly.
829
00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:59,056
Lefevre: There's only
two emotions in Wall Street.
830
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:00,139
One's fear,
and the other's greed.
831
00:35:00,181 --> 00:35:02,141
Usually, we have an excess
of one or the other.
832
00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:04,352
We have now, I think,
an excess of fear.
833
00:35:05,562 --> 00:35:07,230
We will have a recession.
We always do.
834
00:35:07,272 --> 00:35:08,523
It's just a question of when.
835
00:35:08,565 --> 00:35:12,778
My guess is it's probably 1989
rather than 1987.
836
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:14,988
A little present
for the new president.
837
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:17,741
Presidents always seem
to manage to get that
838
00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:20,410
as their gift
after the inaugurals.
839
00:35:20,452 --> 00:35:24,247
I promise you, if Congress
tries to raise the taxes
840
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:27,166
when I'm president --
and you know they will --
841
00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:28,334
I'll say no.
842
00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:31,170
They'll try one more time,
and I'll say no.
843
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,172
And if they try a third time...
844
00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,341
...I'll stare them
right in the eye...
845
00:35:35,383 --> 00:35:37,636
...and I'm gonna say to them,
"Read..."
846
00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:39,554
"...my...lips.
847
00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:41,681
No...new...taxes!"
848
00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:43,266
[ Cheers and applause ]
849
00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:45,811
Troy: In 1988,
George H.W. Bush is running
850
00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,604
to take on the Reagan mantle.
851
00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:50,649
"Read my lips -- no new taxes."
852
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:53,192
Miklaszewksi: When Ronald Reagan
left The White House in January,
853
00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:55,570
he also left George Bush
holding the bag --
854
00:35:55,612 --> 00:35:58,197
filled with an assortment
of staggering problems.
855
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,450
Bierbauer:
When the president calls,
some come running.
856
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:04,037
All agree the savings and loan
crisis is an urgent problem.
857
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,082
Brady:
Could the S&Ls be bailed out
without a tax increase?
858
00:36:07,124 --> 00:36:08,583
Is there any other way
to do it?
859
00:36:08,625 --> 00:36:10,209
I don't think there is,
860
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:13,672
and I think that's becoming
the conclusion of most people.
861
00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:17,258
Pizzo:
Bush had to fill this smoking
hole left by Reagan for him,
862
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:20,137
and the only way to do that
was to pass new legislation,
863
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:22,806
because now we had to start
dipping into taxpayer money.
864
00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:25,892
Bierbauer:
Senators say the only bailout
will be for depositors,
865
00:36:25,934 --> 00:36:27,226
not for bad bankers.
866
00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:30,313
No one needs to worry
about one nickel of their money
867
00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:31,898
in these institutions.
868
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:38,237
This legislation says to tens
of millions of S&L depositors,
869
00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:43,118
"You will not be the victim
of others' mistakes."
870
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,452
Thank you all very much.
871
00:36:44,494 --> 00:36:46,955
And now I'm proud
to sign this monster.
872
00:36:46,997 --> 00:36:49,332
Reporter: Essentially,
George Bush is covering
873
00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:51,250
the biggest overdraft
in history.
874
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:52,544
[ Applause ]
875
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:57,256
[ Laughter ]
876
00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,093
Bush caves.
He raises taxes.
877
00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:03,304
That kills him politically
but saves America economically.
878
00:37:03,346 --> 00:37:06,099
Listen carefully
to this number --
879
00:37:06,141 --> 00:37:08,852
$500 billion.
880
00:37:08,894 --> 00:37:11,521
That's the latest estimate
of what the failure
881
00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:14,482
of hundreds of federally insured
savings and loans
882
00:37:14,524 --> 00:37:17,110
will eventually cost
American taxpayers.
883
00:37:17,152 --> 00:37:19,654
Reporter: Mr. Keating,
how soon can you make bail?
884
00:37:19,696 --> 00:37:20,864
Man: No questions.
885
00:37:20,906 --> 00:37:22,281
Healy:
The once-rapid growth
886
00:37:22,323 --> 00:37:25,202
of Keating's now-failed
Lincoln Savings of California
887
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:28,287
had been fueled by the sale of
a quarter billion dollars' worth
888
00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:31,124
of uninsured
and now worthless bonds --
889
00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:34,502
the majority bought by seniors,
many losing their life savings.
890
00:37:34,544 --> 00:37:38,215
I need my money!
Give it to me right now!
891
00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:41,384
Black: Charles Keating
was convicted in two trials,
892
00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:44,303
but both of those verdicts
were overturned,
893
00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:48,100
and then he pled guilty
to avoid a retrial
894
00:37:48,141 --> 00:37:51,310
and was allowed out
for time served.
895
00:37:51,352 --> 00:37:52,979
Stewart:
The climate had gone
896
00:37:53,021 --> 00:37:56,566
from celebrating the excesses
of Wall Street
897
00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:58,735
to condemning them
pretty quickly.
898
00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:00,153
Reporter: Mr. Milken!
899
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:02,572
Jennings: Tonight's headline --
Milken pleads guilty
900
00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:05,324
in what may be the largest
individual case of fraud
901
00:38:05,366 --> 00:38:07,953
ever to rock Wall Street --
a case which ended
902
00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:10,247
in a plea bargain
with the government.
903
00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:11,623
Frank: Judge Kimba Wood said
904
00:38:11,664 --> 00:38:15,168
Milken's crimes merited
his removal from society.
905
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:17,921
She sentenced
the one-time king of Wall Street
906
00:38:17,963 --> 00:38:19,338
to 10 years in prison.
907
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,340
Stewart: He didn't end up
serving anywhere near that.
908
00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:23,384
He did go to jail
for just under two years.
909
00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:24,761
But I'm confident when he left,
910
00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:27,013
he was at a minimum
a billionaire,
911
00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:29,348
and quite possibly
a multi-billionaire.
912
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:32,351
Jensen: The game of Monopoly
could have been invented
913
00:38:32,393 --> 00:38:34,271
for Donald Trump.
914
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,023
But Monopoly is a tricky game.
915
00:38:37,065 --> 00:38:39,442
When you borrow $2 billion
916
00:38:39,484 --> 00:38:41,820
and the economy
goes into a tailspin
917
00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:44,447
and you can't pay the interest
on your loans,
918
00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:46,407
the bankers move in.
919
00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:48,367
Donald's $100 million yacht
920
00:38:48,409 --> 00:38:52,205
goes to the Boston Safe Deposit
and Trust Company.
921
00:38:52,247 --> 00:38:54,958
His half-interest
in the Grand Hyatt Hotel
922
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,210
goes to Bankers Trust.
923
00:38:57,252 --> 00:39:00,588
His Trump Shuttle
goes to Northwest Airlines.
924
00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:03,300
The man who was
the darling of the '80s
925
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,303
is seen as a man in trouble,
and he knows it.
926
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:07,971
McInerney:
Insofar as we can say
927
00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:11,599
that the '80s was a period
of hedonism and excess,
928
00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:14,978
then the end of the decade
was the hangover.
929
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:17,438
It's more like the rich
are taking their tumble now.
930
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,191
O'Reilly:
Leona and Harry Helmsley,
931
00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:20,859
one of the richest couples
in the world,
932
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,278
were today treated
as common criminals,
933
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,697
booked in Manhattan
on 139 counts of fraud,
934
00:39:25,738 --> 00:39:27,657
tax evasion, and extortion.
935
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:30,327
The government charges
that the Helmsleys renovated
936
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:32,245
their $11 million
Connecticut estate
937
00:39:32,287 --> 00:39:35,832
and wrote the cost off as a
business expense on their taxes.
938
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:39,418
Clayton:
A former housekeeper said
Mrs. Helmsley once told her,
939
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:43,048
"We don't pay taxes.
Only little people pay taxes."
940
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:45,717
Helmsley was sentenced
to four years in prison,
941
00:39:45,758 --> 00:39:47,719
given a $7 million fine,
942
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,931
and ordered to serve
750 hours of community service.
943
00:39:51,973 --> 00:39:54,059
For some,
the sentence was too light.
944
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,270
I have done nothing wrong.
I'm innocent.
945
00:39:57,312 --> 00:40:01,482
My only crime
is that I'm Leona Helmsley.
946
00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:04,736
No matter how many white-collar
thieves get sent away,
947
00:40:04,777 --> 00:40:07,446
no matter how long
they're locked up,
948
00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:09,949
the public
will still be paying for this
949
00:40:09,991 --> 00:40:11,868
long after they're out.
950
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:14,871
So, what did the 1980s
add up to?
951
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,332
We put that question
to a fair number of people,
952
00:40:17,374 --> 00:40:20,377
and more than 95% of them
said simply,
953
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,461
"It was the decade of greed."
954
00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:25,464
Well, we learned
that greed may be good,
955
00:40:25,506 --> 00:40:28,927
but too much greed is bad
956
00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:30,303
and that sometimes,
957
00:40:30,345 --> 00:40:33,306
people on Wall Street
get a little too greedy.
958
00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:35,183
But they learn their lesson,
959
00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:37,435
and they would
never do it again.
960
00:40:38,728 --> 00:40:42,565
Some argue that today's bright
spotlight on unethical behavior
961
00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:44,483
has exaggerated the problem.
962
00:40:44,525 --> 00:40:47,486
But there's no denying
the problem is real.
963
00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:49,530
And if we excuse
unethical conduct
964
00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:51,908
by saying
"Well, everyone does it"
965
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:54,493
or "It's really okay
unless you get caught"
966
00:40:54,535 --> 00:40:57,496
or "It's not against the law,"
we miss the point
967
00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:00,083
of why it's important
we not do it period.
968
00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:02,919
The point may be
no less than national survival
969
00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:05,588
as a people who can
live together honorably.
970
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:08,174
If we let
lying, cheating, and stealing
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become an accepted way of life,
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it's not just a few dollars
that'll be lost.
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It's the spirit of the country
that would be lost.
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The decision is ours.
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