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CHECK. 4 00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:37,205 I PLAY A VAMPIRE IN A TV SHOW THAT SHOOTS HERE IN ATLANTA, 5 00:00:37,238 --> 00:00:38,806 AND I WAS BORN IN LOUISIANA, 6 00:00:38,839 --> 00:00:41,542 SO THE SOUTH HAS A BIG PLACE IN MY HEART. 7 00:00:44,112 --> 00:00:46,280 THE GULF COAST, WHERE I GREW UP, 8 00:00:46,314 --> 00:00:48,749 IS SEEING MASSIVE CHANGES BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING. 9 00:00:48,782 --> 00:00:50,418 BUT IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY, 10 00:00:50,451 --> 00:00:53,487 CLIMATE CHANGE IS BARELY ON THE RADAR, 11 00:00:53,521 --> 00:00:55,823 AND MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL GROUPS HERE -- 12 00:00:55,856 --> 00:00:59,527 EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS -- ISN'T ON BOARD. 13 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:07,868 BUT PEOPLE LIKE ANNA JANE JOYNER ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT. 14 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:12,406 ANNA JANE IS PART OF A GROWING MOVEMENT CALLED "CREATION CARE." 15 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,175 IT'S LED BY YOUNG EVANGELICALS 16 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:16,777 WHO BELIEVE THAT GOD CREATED THE PLANET, 17 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:19,647 BUT IT'S UP TO US TO PROTECT IT. 18 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,415 WE AREN'T THE OWNERS OF THIS WORLD. 19 00:01:21,449 --> 00:01:23,151 WE ARE TENANTS. WE ARE STEWARDS. 20 00:01:23,184 --> 00:01:26,620 AND SO IF YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD CREATED THIS PLANET, 21 00:01:26,654 --> 00:01:28,389 THEN YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT. 22 00:01:28,422 --> 00:01:31,192 AND FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SECURED. 23 00:01:31,225 --> 00:01:32,360 YEAH. EXACTLY. 24 00:01:32,393 --> 00:01:34,495 SO, IT'S THIS KIND OF GROWING MOVEMENT 25 00:01:34,528 --> 00:01:35,663 WITHIN CHRISTIANITY. 26 00:01:35,696 --> 00:01:37,731 [ INDISTINCT SINGING ] 27 00:01:45,706 --> 00:01:47,541 Somerhalder: ANNA JANE IS ON A MISSION 28 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:50,211 TO RALLY OTHER EVANGELICALS TO THE CAUSE, 29 00:01:50,244 --> 00:01:53,381 INCLUDING MEGACHURCHES LIKE THIS ONE. 30 00:01:53,414 --> 00:01:55,449 [ SINGING CONTINUES ] 31 00:02:03,857 --> 00:02:06,427 [ APPLAUSE ] 32 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:09,630 AND SHE'S FOUND THAT THE KEY TO WINNING OVER A CONGREGATION 33 00:02:09,663 --> 00:02:11,932 IS OFTEN THE PASTOR. 34 00:02:11,965 --> 00:02:13,501 IT'S WITH THE HEART 35 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:15,569 MAN BELIEVES THAT IT RESULTS IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 36 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:17,938 NOT JUST THE HEAD, BUT WITH THE HEART. 37 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,374 IT'S WHO WE ARE. 38 00:02:20,408 --> 00:02:22,943 Somerhalder: RICK JOYNER IS THE HEAD OF MorningStar MINISTRIES, 39 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:24,512 ONE OF THE MOST SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE 40 00:02:24,545 --> 00:02:26,247 CHURCHES IN THE STATE. 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,949 HE'S A COMPLETE SKEPTIC WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 42 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:32,486 FOR ANNA JANE, GETTING HIM TO CHANGE HIS MIND 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,422 WILL BE A UNIQUE CHALLENGE, 44 00:02:34,455 --> 00:02:36,657 BECAUSE HE ALSO HAPPENS TO BE HER FATHER. 45 00:02:36,690 --> 00:02:38,859 ISN'T THAT AN ENCOURAGING THOUGHT? 46 00:02:38,892 --> 00:02:40,394 WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE. 47 00:03:00,881 --> 00:03:02,516 HI. SORRY. 48 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:03,884 I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME 49 00:03:03,917 --> 00:03:05,886 AS A CORRESPONDENT FOR "60 MINUTES" 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,256 INVESTIGATING CORPORATE SCANDALS 51 00:03:08,289 --> 00:03:10,724 OR CHASING DOWN THE LATEST POLITICAL SCOOP. 52 00:03:10,758 --> 00:03:13,261 LESLEY STAHL. 53 00:03:13,294 --> 00:03:15,629 BUT IN THE FAST-PACED WORLD OF TV NEWS, 54 00:03:15,663 --> 00:03:17,898 SOMETHING LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE 55 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:20,668 THAT HAPPENS OVER DECADES RATHER THAN HOURS, 56 00:03:20,701 --> 00:03:24,338 CAN TAKE A BACK SEAT. 57 00:03:24,372 --> 00:03:26,006 BUT WE'RE NOW BEING TOLD 58 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:28,842 THAT WHAT WE USED TO THINK WAS SO FAR OFF 59 00:03:28,876 --> 00:03:32,280 MAY ACTUALLY BE IN THE HERE AND NOW. 60 00:03:32,313 --> 00:03:33,847 AND THAT MAKES ME WONDER 61 00:03:33,881 --> 00:03:38,652 WHAT THE WORLD WILL BE LIKE FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN. 62 00:03:38,686 --> 00:03:41,922 I'VE HEARD PLENTY ABOUT MELTING GLACIERS AND RISING SEAS, 63 00:03:41,955 --> 00:03:43,724 BUT I'M QUICKLY LEARNING 64 00:03:43,757 --> 00:03:46,594 THAT I DON'T KNOW THE HALF OF IT. 65 00:03:58,306 --> 00:03:59,807 THE SCIENTISTS HERE ARE TELLING ME 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,809 LOTS OF THINGS THAT SCARE ME. 67 00:04:05,446 --> 00:04:07,315 THANKS. 68 00:04:07,348 --> 00:04:09,950 AND IT TURNS OUT THAT ONE OF THE SCARIEST THINGS OF ALL 69 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:14,755 IS WHAT'S UNDERNEATH ALL THE MELTING ICE. 70 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:41,715 Woman: THIS REPORT CONSTITUTES AN ALARM-CLOCK MOMENT 71 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:43,050 FOR THE WORLD, 72 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:46,086 BECAUSE THIS REPORT WILL TELL US, AGAIN, 73 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:49,490 THAT EVERYTHING WE THOUGHT WE KNEW ON CLIMATE CHANGE 74 00:04:49,523 --> 00:04:51,725 HAS ACTUALLY BEEN UNDERESTIMATED, 75 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:54,395 THAT THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE WILL BE UPON US 76 00:04:54,428 --> 00:04:58,566 FASTER AND IN A MORE INTENSE FASHION THAN WE HAD THOUGHT. 77 00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:05,739 President H.W. Bush: WE ALL KNOW THAT HUMAN ACTIVITIES 78 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:07,741 ARE CHANGING THE ATMOSPHERE 79 00:05:07,775 --> 00:05:12,045 IN UNEXPECTED AND IN UNPRECEDENTED WAYS. 80 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:14,982 Man: ...THAT THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT HAS BEEN DETECTED, 81 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:17,485 AND IT IS CHANGING OUR CLIMATE NOW. 82 00:05:17,518 --> 00:05:20,488 Man #2: THE ATMOSPHERE AND OCEAN HAVE WARMED. 83 00:05:20,521 --> 00:05:22,823 THE AMOUNT OF SNOW AND ICE HAVE DIMINISHED. 84 00:05:22,856 --> 00:05:24,525 SEA LEVEL HAS RISEN, 85 00:05:24,558 --> 00:05:26,794 AND THE CONCENTRATIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES HAVE... 86 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:28,862 Schwarzenegger: THERE IS NO MORE FIRE SEASON. 87 00:05:28,896 --> 00:05:30,631 WE HAVE WILDFIRES ALL YEAR ROUND. 88 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:34,502 Man #3: CLIMATE CHANGE, EXTREME WEATHER... 89 00:05:34,535 --> 00:05:38,406 AND OUR VULNERABILITY TO IT. 90 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:43,744 Man #5: ...WHERE 12 YEARS OF DROUGHT HAS LEFT THE LANDSCAPE BONE-DRY. 91 00:05:43,777 --> 00:05:46,847 Man #6: WE GOT ANY PATRIOTS IN THE CROWD?! 92 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,416 Woman #2: A NEW SCIENTIFIC REPORT HAS DETERMINED 93 00:05:48,449 --> 00:05:50,784 THE LAST DECADE WAS THE WARMEST ON RECORD. 94 00:05:50,818 --> 00:05:53,387 Man #7: OUR WORLD IS CHANGING FASTER 95 00:05:53,421 --> 00:05:56,457 AND MORE DRAMATICALLY THAN EVER BEFORE. 96 00:06:31,058 --> 00:06:33,093 [ Ringing ] 97 00:06:33,126 --> 00:06:34,928 Somerhalder: ANNA JANE JOYNER 98 00:06:34,962 --> 00:06:37,465 IS PART OF A NEW GENERATION OF EVANGELICALS 99 00:06:37,498 --> 00:06:39,066 WHO ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE CLIMATE DEBATE. 100 00:06:39,099 --> 00:06:40,701 WOMAN: Thanks for calling King of Glory... 101 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:42,870 SHE SEES NO CONFLICT BETWEEN HER FAITH 102 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,938 AND THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 103 00:06:44,972 --> 00:06:48,842 ...COMING TOGETHER TO HELP PROTECT GOD'S CREATION. 104 00:06:48,876 --> 00:06:51,044 IN FACT, SHE THINKS CHURCHES 105 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:55,115 HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE. 106 00:06:55,148 --> 00:06:58,852 WHY WOULD YOU SAY EVANGELICALS, PARTICULARLY IN THIS COUNTRY, 107 00:06:58,886 --> 00:07:02,089 HAVE BEEN SO SKEPTICAL ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE? 108 00:07:02,122 --> 00:07:03,757 WELL, I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL SKEPTICISM 109 00:07:03,791 --> 00:07:05,192 AROUND SCIENCE OFTEN. 110 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:07,160 YOU KNOW, MOST EVANGELICALS, OR MANY EVANGELICALS, 111 00:07:07,194 --> 00:07:08,596 DON'T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION. 112 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:10,631 FOR ME, IT'S MORE OF A PERSONAL -- 113 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:13,467 LIKE, HERE IS THIS COMMUNITY THAT RAISED ME, 114 00:07:13,501 --> 00:07:15,102 AND I WANT TO BELIEVE 115 00:07:15,135 --> 00:07:17,137 THAT THEY CAN BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY ON THIS ONE. 116 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:20,708 YOU KNOW, EVANGELICALS HAVE THE MOST POLITICAL POWER. 117 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:23,110 THEY'RE HUGE, A HUGE POLITICAL BASE. HUGE. 118 00:07:23,143 --> 00:07:24,912 SO LET'S GO FOR THE EVANGELICALS, 119 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:27,881 AND ONCE WE CAN MOBILIZE THEM, THEN IT'S THIS HUGE SHIFT. 120 00:07:27,915 --> 00:07:33,787 AND SHE WANTS TO MOBILIZE THEM FOR A SPECIFIC CAUSE. 121 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:35,723 ANNA JANE IS PART OF A MAJOR EFFORT 122 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:37,958 BY THE SIERRA CLUB CALLED BEYOND COAL, 123 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:40,227 TO SHUT DOWN THE COAL PLANT HERE IN ASHEVILLE, 124 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:43,196 ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 125 00:07:43,230 --> 00:07:45,265 WHY DOES THIS MATTER? 126 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:48,636 TO FIND OUT, I MEET WITH MARY ANNE HITT, 127 00:07:48,669 --> 00:07:51,038 THE NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE CAMPAIGN. 128 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:53,273 SHE TELLS ME THAT COAL IS THE BIGGEST SOURCE 129 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:55,609 OF CO2 EMISSIONS ON THE PLANET, 130 00:07:55,643 --> 00:08:00,113 INCLUDING 30% OF THE EMISSIONS IN THE U.S. ALONE. 131 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:03,150 SO, THE AMOUNT OF CARBON COMING OUT OF THIS THING 132 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:05,653 IS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT -- WHAT IS IT? 133 00:08:05,686 --> 00:08:07,788 A HALF A MILLION CARS EVERY YEAR. 134 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:11,625 Somerhalder: EXPLAIN, IF YOU WILL, YOUR PROGRESS, 135 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:16,597 COMING FROM THE BEGINNING TO NOW AND TO THE END GOAL. 136 00:08:16,630 --> 00:08:18,932 THERE ARE ABOUT 500 COAL PLANTS IN THE COUNTRY. 137 00:08:18,966 --> 00:08:22,202 WE HAVE 1 RETIREMENT OF 149 COAL PLANTS 138 00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:23,771 JUST SINCE 2010. 139 00:08:23,804 --> 00:08:26,674 AND OUR GOAL, BY 2015, IN FIVE YEARS, IS -- 140 00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:27,975 WE WANT TO WIN THE RETIREMENT 141 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,977 OF A THIRD OF THE COAL PLANTS IN AMERICA. 142 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:31,679 AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE. 143 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:33,280 SO, THE ONE THING I KEEP HEARING 144 00:08:33,313 --> 00:08:35,949 IS THAT SWITCHING OVER TO RENEWABLES -- 145 00:08:35,983 --> 00:08:38,952 AREN'T THESE ELECTRIC BILLS GONNA SKYROCKET? 146 00:08:38,986 --> 00:08:40,654 NEW, CLEAN ENERGY THAT'S COMING ONLINE 147 00:08:40,688 --> 00:08:42,155 IS ACTUALLY, IN SOME PLACES, 148 00:08:42,189 --> 00:08:43,957 CHEAPER THAN EXISTING COAL PLANTS, LIKE THIS ONE. 149 00:08:43,991 --> 00:08:45,959 WHERE WOULD THAT BE? MONTANA. 150 00:08:45,993 --> 00:08:48,562 RECENTLY, A NEW WIND FARM CAME ONLINE, 151 00:08:48,596 --> 00:08:51,164 AND IT IS CHEAPER THAN THE EXISTING COAL PLANT -- 152 00:08:51,198 --> 00:08:52,966 THE COLSTRIP PLANT IN MONTANA. 153 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,703 SO, WE ARE IN A WHOLE NEW ERA 154 00:08:55,736 --> 00:08:57,571 IN HOW WE MAKE ENERGY IN AMERICA. 155 00:08:57,605 --> 00:08:59,607 THE PATH TO A CLEAN-ENERGY FUTURE... 156 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,675 BEYOND COAL IS ONE OF THE MOST AMBITIOUS 157 00:09:01,709 --> 00:09:03,210 AND SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS OUT THERE 158 00:09:03,243 --> 00:09:05,545 TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. 159 00:09:08,616 --> 00:09:12,052 BUT IN SOME PLACES IN THE SOUTH, THEY'RE MEETING RESISTANCE, 160 00:09:12,085 --> 00:09:15,989 AND THAT'S WHERE ANNA JANE COMES IN. 161 00:09:16,023 --> 00:09:17,858 MARY ANNE HAS ASKED HER 162 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:20,861 TO LINE UP SUPPORT FROM LOCAL PASTORS. 163 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:22,262 YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE 164 00:09:22,295 --> 00:09:24,832 SEVERAL PASTORS IN TOWN WHO HAVE SIGNED ON, 165 00:09:24,865 --> 00:09:26,366 AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN REALLY BEGUN 166 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:30,604 TO GET IT OUT THERE TO OUR DIFFERENT FAITH LEADERS. 167 00:09:30,638 --> 00:09:32,873 SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THERE. 168 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:34,708 WE'RE AT THE TABLE. 169 00:09:34,742 --> 00:09:36,610 Hitt: THAT'S GREAT WORK. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 170 00:09:36,644 --> 00:09:38,879 YOU KNOW, THE SCIENCE IS IMPORTANT 171 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,614 AND THE GRAPHS AND THE CHARTS ARE IMPORTANT, 172 00:09:40,648 --> 00:09:42,282 BUT IF WE LEAVE OUT THE MORAL ELEMENT, 173 00:09:42,315 --> 00:09:44,985 WE MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE, 174 00:09:45,018 --> 00:09:46,654 AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS 175 00:09:46,687 --> 00:09:48,956 THAT WE NEED TO DO MOST WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 176 00:09:58,065 --> 00:10:00,033 Somerhalder: ANNA JANE SPENDS HER DAYS 177 00:10:00,067 --> 00:10:02,269 MAKING THE ROUNDS AT LOCAL CHURCHES, 178 00:10:02,302 --> 00:10:04,237 TRYING TO GET EVEN MORE CHRISTIANS ON BOARD 179 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:06,273 FOR AN UPCOMING BEYOND COAL RALLY. 180 00:10:06,306 --> 00:10:08,175 [ CAR DOOR CLOSES ] 181 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:10,210 Anna Jane: IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT THE FAITH COMMUNITY, 182 00:10:10,243 --> 00:10:12,145 WERE THEY TO GET MOBILIZED AROUND THIS ISSUE, 183 00:10:12,179 --> 00:10:15,849 COULD BRING A REALLY PROPHETIC VOICE TO YOU. 184 00:10:15,883 --> 00:10:18,418 I CAME ACROSS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION 185 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:20,387 ABOUT HOW CHRISTIANS 186 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:22,723 ARE NOT ONLY CALLED TO CARE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, 187 00:10:22,756 --> 00:10:25,258 BUT INSTRUCTED TO STEWARD THE LAND. 188 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:26,794 Somerhalder: IN THE PROCESS, 189 00:10:26,827 --> 00:10:28,929 SHE CAN'T HELP BUT THINK OF HER FATHER. 190 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:30,163 MY DAD COULD TELL YOU THE VERSE. 191 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:31,298 I CAN'T. 192 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:32,966 BUT IT SAYS, 193 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,936 "GOD WILL DESTROY THOSE WHO DESTROY THE EARTH." 194 00:10:41,208 --> 00:10:42,710 AND JUST LIKE HER FATHER, 195 00:10:42,743 --> 00:10:46,947 SOME PASTORS SEEM IMPOSSIBLE TO CONVINCE. 196 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:50,183 YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT I'M GOING DOWN A WRONG PATH. 197 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:52,252 YOU THINK I'M GOING DOWN A WRONG PATH. SURE. 198 00:10:52,285 --> 00:10:53,987 LET'S UNDERSTAND -- 199 00:10:54,021 --> 00:10:55,889 YOU CAME IN HERE WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT I'M WRONG, 200 00:10:55,923 --> 00:10:58,158 THAT I'M AN OLD GUY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, 201 00:10:58,191 --> 00:10:59,860 AND THAT I'M WRONG. 202 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:01,261 I THINK YOU'RE WRONG. 203 00:11:01,294 --> 00:11:03,797 I GET YOUR WORLD VIEW SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT 204 00:11:03,831 --> 00:11:05,699 24 HOURS A DAY. 205 00:11:05,733 --> 00:11:09,369 VERY FEW CHRISTIANS REALLY BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION. 206 00:11:09,402 --> 00:11:10,804 WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN 207 00:11:10,838 --> 00:11:12,773 IS A DOCTRINE OF THE RESURRECTION. 208 00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,842 Somerhalder: ANNA JANE HAS BEEN FIGHTING WITH HER DAD 209 00:11:14,875 --> 00:11:16,910 ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE FOR YEARS, 210 00:11:16,944 --> 00:11:18,245 AND FINALLY WINNING HIM OVER 211 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:20,147 WOULD MEAN A LOT TO HER PERSONALLY. 212 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:22,182 BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS 213 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:23,851 SHE COULD DO FOR THE CAUSE. 214 00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:27,254 THAT'S BECAUSE RICK JOYNER ISN'T JUST ANY PASTOR. 215 00:11:27,287 --> 00:11:30,057 HE'S THE HEAD OF AN EVANGELICAL EMPIRE. 216 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:32,125 HIS 50-ACRE COMPOUND 217 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:34,795 WAS PREVIOUSLY OWNED BY JIM AND TAMMY FAYE BAKKER... 218 00:11:34,828 --> 00:11:36,363 * THIS IS YOUR HERITAGE 219 00:11:36,396 --> 00:11:39,733 ...WHOSE TV SHOW, "THE PTL CLUB," 220 00:11:39,767 --> 00:11:42,369 ONCE HAD AN AUDIENCE OF OVER 600,000. 221 00:11:42,402 --> 00:11:43,904 BUT THE BIBLE SAYS, 222 00:11:43,937 --> 00:11:45,739 "GREATER IS HE THAT'S IN YOU 223 00:11:45,773 --> 00:11:47,240 THAN HE THAT'S IN THE WORLD. 224 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:48,842 AND THE DEVIL... 225 00:11:48,876 --> 00:11:51,444 NOW RICK HAS TURNED IT INTO THE HEADQUARTERS 226 00:11:51,478 --> 00:11:53,146 OF A GLOBAL MINISTRY 227 00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:57,017 WITH 200 CHURCHES IN 40 COUNTRIES. 228 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:58,085 HOW MANY OF THESE HAVE YOU WRITTEN? 229 00:11:58,118 --> 00:11:59,887 Rick: OVER 50. 230 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,989 THIS ONE, I'VE GOT A MOVIE -- 231 00:12:02,022 --> 00:12:04,157 WELL, I HAD A MOVIE DEAL ON IT. 232 00:12:04,191 --> 00:12:05,993 THIS IS AMAZING. 233 00:12:06,026 --> 00:12:09,897 I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE A -- IT'S LIKE A WHOLE CITY IN HERE. 234 00:12:09,930 --> 00:12:11,231 Rick: YEAH. 235 00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:14,001 WE HAVE A SCHOOL HERE -- MorningStar UNIVERSITY. 236 00:12:14,034 --> 00:12:17,304 AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OTHER CHURCHES AND... 237 00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:18,872 POLITICALLY, 238 00:12:18,906 --> 00:12:21,074 RICK IS ABOUT AS FAR TO THE RIGHT AS THEY COME 239 00:12:21,108 --> 00:12:22,309 ON A RANGE OF ISSUES. 240 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:24,111 Man: PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVES 241 00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:26,847 ON CURRENT EVENTS WITH RICK JOYNER. 242 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,817 I'M LEANING TOWARDS BELIEVING THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN. 243 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:31,551 IT WASN'T STOLEN FROM ROMNEY. 244 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:34,287 IT WAS STOLEN FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 245 00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:38,058 THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN, SO UNDERMINED RIGHT NOW -- 246 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:40,928 THE WHOLE SYSTEM -- 247 00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:42,262 I BELIEVE OUR ONLY HOPE 248 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:46,533 IS A MILITARY TAKEOVER, MARTIAL LAW. 249 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:53,040 Somerhalder: SO FAR, ANNA JANE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET HER DAD TO BUDGE. 250 00:12:53,073 --> 00:12:57,344 BUT NOW, SHE'S PLANNING TO CALL IN SOME HELP. 251 00:13:06,253 --> 00:13:09,857 SO, WE ARE LEAVING FROM HERE, UUMMANNAQ. 252 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:11,491 MM-HMM. 253 00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:14,895 Stahl: I CAME TO GREENLAND TO MEET GLACIOLOGIST MARCO TEDESCO. 254 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:16,129 WHEN IT COMES TO THE EFFECT 255 00:13:16,163 --> 00:13:18,465 CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAVING ON THE ARCTIC, 256 00:13:18,498 --> 00:13:22,569 HE SAYS, "WHAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, 257 00:13:22,602 --> 00:13:25,472 "AND THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE 258 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:27,140 IS TO SEE IT." 259 00:13:27,174 --> 00:13:30,043 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MELTING NOW GOING ON HERE. 260 00:13:30,077 --> 00:13:31,578 IT'S REALLY UP TO THE PILOT 261 00:13:31,611 --> 00:13:34,614 TO DECIDE THE SAFETY LEVEL OF OUR LANDING. 262 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:36,283 MM-HMM. 263 00:13:36,316 --> 00:13:39,286 WE MIGHT WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE WALK AROUND. 264 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:42,355 WE D WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE WALK AROUND. 265 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:44,157 ALSO BECAUSE ON THE ICE, 266 00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:47,260 YOU KNOW, ANY LITTLE PROBLEM CAN BECOME VERY BIG. 267 00:13:58,105 --> 00:14:01,274 Stahl: I'M SURPRISED BY HOW BIG GREENLAND IS -- 268 00:14:01,308 --> 00:14:04,077 MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF TEXAS. 269 00:14:04,111 --> 00:14:08,581 MARCO TELLS ME THAT ABOUT 80% OF IT IS COVERED IN ICE. 270 00:14:22,662 --> 00:14:25,498 MARCO IS ONE OF A HANDFUL OF SCIENTISTS 271 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:28,969 WHO SPEND WEEKS EVERY YEAR LIVING ON THE ICE, 272 00:14:29,002 --> 00:14:31,604 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW FAST IT'S DISAPPEARING. 273 00:14:40,447 --> 00:14:42,615 THE SETTING IS STUNNING, 274 00:14:42,649 --> 00:14:46,053 AND THE GLACIER IS FAR BIGGER THAN I EVER IMAGINED. 275 00:14:46,086 --> 00:14:50,323 YOU CAN SEE THIS WALL OF ICE ALL BROKEN DOWN. 276 00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:54,527 THE GLACIERS -- THEY LOSE MASS BY MELTING, 277 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:56,596 SO AS THERE'S MORE AND MORE WATER PRODUCED, 278 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:59,699 IT GOES THROUGH THE ICE, AND IT BREAKS THE ICE. 279 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,368 YOU HAVE ALL THE WATER 280 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:04,337 INTO THESE MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF CRACKS YOU SEE THERE. 281 00:15:04,371 --> 00:15:07,340 THE CRACKS ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER. 282 00:15:07,374 --> 00:15:09,309 AND THEN THESE BLOCKS ARE PRODUCED, 283 00:15:09,342 --> 00:15:10,710 AND THEY FLOW TO THE OCEAN. 284 00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:13,947 AND THESE ARE VERY POWERFUL EVENTS. 285 00:15:13,981 --> 00:15:16,249 BUT JUST LOOKING DOESN'T GIVE YOU 286 00:15:16,283 --> 00:15:19,086 THE FULL EXPERIENCE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. 287 00:15:19,119 --> 00:15:21,955 WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BE LISTENING FOR? 288 00:15:21,989 --> 00:15:23,256 WELL, YOU WILL LISTEN 289 00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:26,293 WHEN A GLACIER IS PRODUCING THESE ICEBERGS. 290 00:15:26,326 --> 00:15:31,164 IT REALLY HAS THIS DEEP, LOUD, LOW-TONE SOUND. 291 00:15:31,198 --> 00:15:33,300 LIKE A RUMBLE? LIKE A RUMBLE. 292 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:35,502 IT'S LIKE ICEQUAKES, AS WE CALL THEM. 293 00:15:35,535 --> 00:15:36,636 ICEQUAKES? 294 00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:38,305 YEAH, THERE ARE ICEQUAKES. 295 00:15:38,338 --> 00:15:41,208 SO, IF WE JUST STAND HERE, WE'LL ACTUALLY HEAR SOMETHING. 296 00:15:41,241 --> 00:15:43,010 WE WILL. 297 00:15:49,016 --> 00:15:51,051 [ CRACKING, RUMBLING ] 298 00:15:58,158 --> 00:15:59,726 IT'S RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE. 299 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,295 OH, MY GOD. THAT WAS HUGE. 300 00:16:02,329 --> 00:16:04,731 THERE'S SOMETHING BIG GOING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE. 301 00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:07,600 [ CRACKING, RUMBLING CONTINUES ] 302 00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:10,537 [ CHUCKLES ] 303 00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:16,143 AND THEN MARCO TELLS ME 304 00:16:16,176 --> 00:16:19,512 WHY THESE ICEQUAKES SCARE HIM SO MUCH. 305 00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:29,422 GREENLAND IS MELTING AT A PACE THAT IS HARD TO FATHOM -- 306 00:16:29,456 --> 00:16:33,526 5 TIMES FASTER THAN IT WAS JUST 20 YEARS AGO. 307 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,565 AND IN JUST ONE YEAR -- 2012 -- THE ICE THAT MELTED IN GREENLAND 308 00:16:38,598 --> 00:16:40,633 WAS EQUIVALENT TO NIAGARA FALLS 309 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:44,304 RUNNING INTO THE OCEAN FOR FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS, 310 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:47,040 LEADING TO MORE AND MORE SEA-LEVEL RISE. 311 00:16:47,074 --> 00:16:50,177 BUT IT'S NOT JUST THESE GIANT CHUNKS OF ICE 312 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:52,545 BREAKING OFF GLACIERS THAT CONCERN MARCO. 313 00:16:55,382 --> 00:17:00,353 THERE'S ANOTHER CHANGE HERE THAT'S EVEN MORE ALARMING. 314 00:17:04,491 --> 00:17:06,526 [ BIRDS CHIRPING ] 315 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:13,733 Anna Jane: I GREW UP IN THIS CHURCH. 316 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:15,402 MY DAD STARTED IT 317 00:17:15,435 --> 00:17:20,107 WHEN I WAS AROUND -- I DON'T KNOW -- 6, 7, MAYBE. 318 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:21,841 THEY STARTED IT OUT OF THEIR HOME, 319 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:26,079 AND IT QUICKLY GREW. 320 00:17:26,113 --> 00:17:29,649 I PROMISE TO HONOR GOD, NATURE, AND OUR FAMILIES. 321 00:17:32,185 --> 00:17:36,623 THE HIGHEST PURPOSE OF MAN IS TO LOVE GOD ABOVE ALL THINGS 322 00:17:36,656 --> 00:17:38,491 AND THEN TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER. 323 00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:40,293 [ APPLAUSE ] 324 00:17:40,327 --> 00:17:43,530 Somerhalder: BUT ANNA JANE FOUND HER OWN PURPOSE IN COLLEGE. 325 00:17:43,563 --> 00:17:45,665 SHE WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA 326 00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:48,668 WHEN SHE STARTED LEARNING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE 327 00:17:48,701 --> 00:17:52,639 AND DECIDED TO MAJOR IN ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNICATIONS. 328 00:17:52,672 --> 00:17:55,475 AND I JUST CAME OUT REALLY, LIKE, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, 329 00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:58,545 ESSENTIALLY TOOK ON THIS WHOLE NEW LIFE, IDENTITY, AND ROLE. 330 00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:01,148 AND IT WAS VERY NOT COMFORTABLE 331 00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:03,516 OR FAMILIAR TO THE EVANGELICAL-CHRISTIAN WORLD. 332 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:06,853 RIGHT. AND SO IT CREATED A LOT OF TENSION BETWEEN ME AND MY DAD. 333 00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:08,455 HE ACTUALLY DID END UP 334 00:18:08,488 --> 00:18:11,124 KIND OF IN THE MIDST OF THESE BIG ARGUMENTS, 335 00:18:11,158 --> 00:18:14,261 CUTTING OFF MY TUITION FOR THAT SEMESTER. 336 00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:15,562 SO YOU'RE DONE. YEAH. 337 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:18,731 WELL, I WAS HAVING A MORAL STRUGGLE, 338 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,733 FEELING LIKE I'M INVESTING 339 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:25,538 IN HAVING MY DAUGHTER'S MIND CORRUPTED, YOU KNOW? 340 00:18:25,572 --> 00:18:28,275 AND THAT'S THE WAY I FELT WHAT WAS HAPPENING, 341 00:18:28,308 --> 00:18:29,542 BECAUSE IT WAS -- 342 00:18:29,576 --> 00:18:31,344 FROM THE UNIVERSITY, YOU MEAN. YEAH. 343 00:18:31,378 --> 00:18:35,248 I THINK, "I CAN'T PAY TO HAVE THIS DONE TO MY DAUGHTER." 344 00:18:37,684 --> 00:18:40,187 HEY, DADDY. 345 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:41,654 Rick: HEY. YOU HUNGRY? 346 00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:43,756 Somerhalder: AFTER NOT SPEAKING FOR SIX MONTHS, 347 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:46,426 ANNA JANE AND HER FATHER RECONCILED. 348 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,428 LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU. 349 00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:49,762 Somerhalder: BUT THEY NEVER 350 00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:51,831 REALLY SETTLED THEIR CLIMATE DEBATE. 351 00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:53,400 Rick: I UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE, 352 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:56,169 AND I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN CONVINCED BY THE SCIENCE. 353 00:18:56,203 --> 00:18:57,470 I'M OPEN TO IT. 354 00:18:57,504 --> 00:18:59,172 I'M NOT TOTALLY UNCONVINCED, EITHER, 355 00:18:59,206 --> 00:19:02,542 BUT I SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT DON'T ADD UP 356 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:05,845 AND SOME THINGS THAT SEEM, TO ME, TO BE QUITE EXAGGERATED. 357 00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,750 ALL RIGHT. 358 00:19:18,625 --> 00:19:21,628 BUT SINCE HER DAD WON'T LISTEN TO HER, 359 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,296 ANNA JANE IS DETERMINED 360 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:25,932 TO FIND SOMEONE THAT RICK WILL LISTEN TO, 361 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:29,869 SOMEONE WHO SHARES HIS RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL VIEWS, 362 00:19:29,902 --> 00:19:33,306 BUT WHO ALSO ACCEPTS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL. 363 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,484 BOB INGLIS, A FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, 364 00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:47,620 REPRESENTED ONE OF THE NATION'S MOST CONSERVATIVE DISTRICTS 365 00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:48,821 FOR SIX TERMS. 366 00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:52,492 ONCE A CLIMATE-CHANGE SKEPTIC, 367 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:54,694 INGLIS NOW MAKES IT HIS MISSION 368 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,963 TO TEACH FELLOW REPUBLICANS AND FELLOW CHRISTIANS... 369 00:19:56,996 --> 00:19:58,698 HELLO. HEY. 370 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:02,435 ...ABOUT THE DANGERS OF HUMAN-CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING. 371 00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:05,638 Inglis: FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PEOPLE OF FAITH, 372 00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:07,307 THERE IS A CONTEST HERE -- RIGHT? -- 373 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,008 BETWEEN FAITH AND SCIENCE. 374 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:13,313 MY VIEW IS THAT GOD WANTS US TO DISCOVER 375 00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:14,747 THE WAY THAT HE CREATED. 376 00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:17,850 HE WANTS US TO DISCOVER THE INTRICACIES. 377 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:19,652 HE SAYS, "COME ON, I'LL SHOW YOU." 378 00:20:19,686 --> 00:20:21,954 BUT I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE OF FAITH DON'T THINK THAT. 379 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:23,656 THEY THINK, "NO, NO. 380 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:26,259 THAT'S TO INVADE THE PROVINCE OF GOD TO GO THERE." 381 00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:28,895 AND SO, WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, WHAT THEY THINK -- 382 00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:30,497 WHAT SOME PEOPLE THINK 383 00:20:30,530 --> 00:20:33,800 IS THAT IT'S ARROGANT OF HUMANKIND 384 00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:35,935 TO SAY THAT WE CAN AFFECT THE LONGEVITY OF THE EARTH... 385 00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:37,604 OKAY. 386 00:20:37,637 --> 00:20:40,740 ...BECAUSE TO DO SO IS TO INVADE THE PROVINCE OF GOD. 387 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:44,911 GETTING TO THIS SEAT RIGHT NOW AROUND THIS TABLE, 388 00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:47,680 WHERE ARE YOU ON CLIMATE CHANGE? 389 00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:49,449 I MEAN, I'M REALLY NOT TRYING 390 00:20:49,482 --> 00:20:52,051 TO PROVE CLIMATE CHANGE OR DISPROVE IT. 391 00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,486 RIGHT. I WANT TO GO AT IT. 392 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,754 I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH. 393 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:56,656 HOW DO YOU FIND WHAT THE TRUTH IS 394 00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:58,791 IF YOU CAN, ON THE WEB, 395 00:20:58,825 --> 00:21:02,529 FIND A SERIES OF THINGS THAT SUPPORT DOUBT 396 00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:04,564 AND, IN FACT, INCREASE DOUBT 397 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:07,300 OR YOU CAN GO A DIFFERENT SERIES OF STEPS 398 00:21:07,334 --> 00:21:11,404 AND FIND INCREASING RELIANCE ON THE SCIENCE? 399 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,841 I TRY TO READ BOTH SIDES WHENEVER. 400 00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,843 I TRY TO READ THE PROS AND THE CONS. 401 00:21:16,876 --> 00:21:19,379 THE ONES THAT WERE PRO, 402 00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:22,048 THE STUDIES WERE, I THOUGHT, REALLY SUPERFICIAL. 403 00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:24,417 I THOUGHT, "WHAT DO THEY THINK? WE'RE IDIOTS?" 404 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:26,986 BOB INGLIS HAS HAD SOME SUCCESS 405 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:29,789 BRINGING OTHER CONSERVATIVES AROUND ON CLIMATE CHANGE. 406 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:33,426 BUT I'M NOT SO SURE IT'S WORKING WITH PASTOR RICK. 407 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:34,927 HOW IS IT WATCHING YOUR DAUGHTER, 408 00:21:34,961 --> 00:21:38,565 WHO'S ULTIMATELY DEVOTED HER LIFE TO THIS -- 409 00:21:38,598 --> 00:21:42,402 I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOU? 410 00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:45,605 WELL, IT HAS AN EMOTIONAL IMPACT, NO DOUBT. 411 00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:46,873 I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE FOR HER SAKE. 412 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:48,975 I'M DOING THIS FOR HER SAKE. 413 00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:52,879 YOU KNOW, BUT I STILL HAVE TO HAVE A DEVOTION TO TRUTH 414 00:21:52,912 --> 00:21:56,749 OR I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR HER SAKE. 415 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:02,121 I GUESS I SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE 416 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,857 MORE THAN ONE CONVERSATION WITH A FELLOW CHRISTIAN 417 00:22:04,891 --> 00:22:06,993 TO CHANGE RICK'S MIND, 418 00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:09,429 BUT IT FEELS LIKE A START. 419 00:22:22,575 --> 00:22:25,912 AND NOW, ANNA JANE HAS ANOTHER IDEA. 420 00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,515 MAYBE IT WOULD HELP IF HER DAD COULD SEE 421 00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:32,351 THE EFFECTS OF GLOBAL WARMING WITH HIS OWN EYES. 422 00:22:36,055 --> 00:22:39,426 SO SHE'S TAKING HIM TO THE GULF COAST, 423 00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:42,995 WHERE AN ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE IS THREATENED, 424 00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:45,665 PARTLY BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 425 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:48,901 Rick: I LOVE THE GULF. 426 00:22:48,935 --> 00:22:52,104 HAVING SPENT SO MANY SUMMERS DOWN THERE, 427 00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:56,643 TO ME, IT'S LIKE ANOTHER HOME. 428 00:23:06,453 --> 00:23:09,522 Somerhalder: FOR ANNA JANE, THE TRIP HAS TO BE A SUCCESS. 429 00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:12,124 THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER. 430 00:23:12,158 --> 00:23:14,060 Anna Jane: I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATE. 431 00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:15,928 I FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. 432 00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:19,866 I THINK IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. 433 00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:21,534 THIS IS MY JOB. 434 00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:24,537 IF I CAN'T CONVINCE MY DAD THAT THAT'S THE CASE, 435 00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:27,406 THEN THAT'S A VERY PERSONAL FAILURE. 436 00:23:33,045 --> 00:23:34,647 Stahl: WOW! Tedesco: WELCOME. 437 00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:36,082 THIS IS A LAKE? 438 00:23:36,115 --> 00:23:37,817 YEAH. THIS IS A LAKE. 439 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:40,520 I CAN'T GET OVER IT. 440 00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:42,121 YOU CAN SEE WE ARE REALLY IN A BASIN, 441 00:23:42,154 --> 00:23:44,090 AND ALL THE WATER STARTS COLLECTING HERE. 442 00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:46,626 AND YOU CAN SEE, REALLY, THESE CRACKS HERE. 443 00:23:46,659 --> 00:23:48,127 YOU MEAN UNDERNEATH? 444 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,696 YOU CAN SEE DEFINITELY. 445 00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:51,130 WHAT YOU'RE SEEING 446 00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:53,700 IS THAT THE WATER HAS BEEN FLUSHING AWAY THE SNOW. 447 00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:56,836 THE NUMBER OF LAKES IS ACTUALLY INCREASING. 448 00:23:56,869 --> 00:23:58,137 SO, THE MORE LAKES 449 00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:00,940 MEANS THE MORE BLUE MATERIAL, 450 00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:04,076 AND THE DARKER THE ICE SHEET BECOMES, 451 00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:08,080 YOU REALLY CHANGE THE WAY THE SUN IS DRIVING THE CLIMATE. 452 00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,783 THE GLACIER IS VERY BRIGHT. 453 00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:12,619 ICE IS VERY BRIGHT. 454 00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:14,887 WHEN YOU REPLACE A BRIGHT SURFACE LIKE THIS 455 00:24:14,921 --> 00:24:17,123 WITH A DARK SURFACE LIKE THAT, 456 00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:18,758 IT'S LIKE WEARING A BLACK SHIRT 457 00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:20,226 VERSUS WEARING A WHITE SHIRT. 458 00:24:20,259 --> 00:24:24,030 MM-HMM. IT WARMS UP FASTER. 459 00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:27,233 Stahl: ONCE WE'RE BACK IN THE HELICOPTER, 460 00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:29,969 I SEE THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THESE LAKES. 461 00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,238 I'M WITNESSING A VICIOUS CYCLE. 462 00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:34,507 THE LAKES CAUSE MORE WARMING, 463 00:24:34,541 --> 00:24:38,778 WHICH LEADS TO MORE LAKES AND EVEN MORE WARMING. 464 00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:42,281 AND IT'S NOT JUST GLACIERS ON LAND THAT ARE MELTING. 465 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,785 SINCE 1980, AN ASTONISHING 40% 466 00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:47,920 OF THE SUMMER SEA ICE IN THE ARCTIC 467 00:24:47,954 --> 00:24:52,592 HAS DISAPPEARED AND BEEN REPLACED BY DARK OCEAN. 468 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:54,527 OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, 469 00:24:54,561 --> 00:24:58,097 ALL THESE NEW DARK SURFACES HAVE CAUSED MORE WARMING 470 00:24:58,130 --> 00:25:00,066 THAN THE CARBON-DIOXIDE EMISSIONS 471 00:25:00,099 --> 00:25:04,270 OF ALL THE CARS ON THE ENTIRE PLANET. 472 00:25:04,303 --> 00:25:06,539 AND, REMEMBER, THIS MELTING IS BEING DRIVEN 473 00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:10,543 BY THE COAL, OIL, AND GAS WE'VE ALREADY BURNED. 474 00:25:10,577 --> 00:25:13,012 BUT, OF COURSE, WE'RE BURNING MORE ALL THE TIME. 475 00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:17,850 BACK IN NEW YORK, I LEARN OF A NEW REPORT 476 00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:21,287 ISSUED BY THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE. 477 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,989 FOR THE FIRST TIME, 478 00:25:23,022 --> 00:25:26,225 THIS GROUP OF TOP CLIMATE SCIENTISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD 479 00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:28,160 IS DECLARING AN UPPER LIMIT 480 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:30,930 ON THE AMOUNT OF FOSSIL FUELS WE CAN BURN 481 00:25:30,963 --> 00:25:32,965 WITHOUT COURTING A CATASTROPHE. 482 00:25:36,135 --> 00:25:39,271 DR. HEIDI CULLEN IS ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE REPORT. 483 00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:41,340 NOW, IN THIS NEW REPORT, 484 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:45,578 WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT NEW STATEMENT IS? 485 00:25:45,612 --> 00:25:46,979 YEAH, I WOULD SAY 486 00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:49,181 THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT NEW STATEMENT IN THIS REPORT 487 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:52,585 WAS THE REDLINE THAT SCIENTISTS DREW IN THE SAND. 488 00:25:52,619 --> 00:25:56,255 BASICALLY, WE CAN'T TOUCH MORE THAN 30% OF OUR RESERVES, 489 00:25:56,288 --> 00:25:59,258 SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE SOME OIL AND GAS ON THE TABLE 490 00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:02,194 IF WE ARE REALLY COMMITTED TO PRESERVING, YOU KNOW, 491 00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:04,263 THE VITAL FUNCTIONS OF OUR PLANET. 492 00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:06,966 SO, IN THE SAME WAY THAT CIGARETTE SMOKING 493 00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:09,702 RAISES YOUR RISK FOR LUNG CANCER, 494 00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:12,839 BURNING FOSSIL FUELS RAISES THE RISK 495 00:26:12,872 --> 00:26:17,644 OF HARMING THE IMPORTANT ORGANS OF OUR PLANET -- 496 00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:19,879 OUR OCEAN, OUR ATMOSPHERE, OUR ICE SHEETS. 497 00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:22,014 HEIDI TELLS ME 498 00:26:22,048 --> 00:26:26,152 IF WE WERE TO BURN ALL OUR KNOWN RESERVES OF FOSSIL FUELS, 499 00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:30,222 HUMANS WOULD FIND LARGE PARTS OF THE PLANET UNLIVABLE OUTDOORS. 500 00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:35,695 SO, CLEARLY, WE HAVE TO STOP FAR SHORT OF THAT. 501 00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:41,367 SHE SAYS IT'S ALL A QUESTION OF HOW MUCH RISK WE WANT TO TAKE. 502 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,836 AND SCIENTISTS AROUND THE WORLD AGREE 503 00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:47,273 THAT IF WE BURN MORE THAN 30% OF OUR KNOWN RESERVES, 504 00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:50,076 THE RISK BECOMES UNACCEPTABLE. 505 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,645 IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY, 506 00:26:52,679 --> 00:26:55,047 WE'RE GONNA CROSS THAT MARK BY 2040. 507 00:26:55,081 --> 00:26:57,183 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE EXTREME-WEATHER EVENTS, 508 00:26:57,216 --> 00:26:59,652 MORE FLOODING, DROUGHTS, HEAT WAVES, 509 00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:01,654 RISING SEA LEVELS, 510 00:27:01,688 --> 00:27:05,191 ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT JUST REALLY UP OUR RISK. 511 00:27:05,224 --> 00:27:06,659 2040. 512 00:27:06,693 --> 00:27:07,827 2040. 513 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:09,428 I'LL STILL BE HERE, HOPEFULLY. 514 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:11,964 [ LAUGHS ] I MIGHT NOT, BUT MY CHILDREN WILL BE. 515 00:27:11,998 --> 00:27:13,666 MY GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE. 516 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:19,071 WE'VE HEARD THESE CLARION CALLS FOR A LONG TIME, ACTUALLY. 517 00:27:19,105 --> 00:27:22,241 NOW YOU AND I MIGHT BELIEVE IT, BUT GO OUT IN THE STREET... 518 00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:23,910 YOU KNOW, THE JOB OF THE SCIENTIST 519 00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:27,013 IS REALLY TO, YOU KNOW, HOLD UP A DANGER SIGN 520 00:27:27,046 --> 00:27:29,949 AND SAY, "LOOK, BURNING FOSSIL FUELS -- 521 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,084 "WHILE THERE'S MANY GREAT THINGS ABOUT IT, 522 00:27:32,118 --> 00:27:35,221 IT HAS THESE UNFORTUNATE, LONG-TERM RISKS." 523 00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,723 AS SCIENTISTS, WE CAN'T TELL 524 00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:38,424 OIL COMPANIES WHAT TO DO OR WHAT NOT TO DO, 525 00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:39,959 BUT WE CAN SAY THAT, "YOU KNOW WHAT? 526 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,895 "IT IS TREMENDOUSLY RISKY 527 00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:47,066 "TO GO AFTER ALL OF THAT OIL AND NATURAL GAS. 528 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,401 "IF WE WILLINGLY CHOOSE TO CROSS THAT LINE, 529 00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:52,705 THEN DON'T SAY THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WARNED." 530 00:27:52,739 --> 00:27:55,241 AND THEN THERE'S A FINAL TWIST, 531 00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:58,811 ONE THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF A CLIMATE SCIENTIST'S NIGHTMARE. 532 00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,947 AS THE ICE MELTS IN THE ARCTIC, 533 00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:04,016 ENTIRELY NEW DEPOSITS OF OIL AND GAS 534 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:06,252 THAT WERE ONCE TRAPPED UNDER THE ICE 535 00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:09,421 ARE BECOMING ACCESSIBLE FOR THE FIRST TIME. 536 00:28:09,455 --> 00:28:11,323 I'VE JUST LEARNED THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD 537 00:28:11,357 --> 00:28:13,793 TO BURN THE FOSSIL-FUEL RESERVES WE KNOW ABOUT, 538 00:28:13,826 --> 00:28:16,896 AND YET, ENERGY COMPANIES ARE ON THE HUNT 539 00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:19,098 FOR EVEN MORE OF THE STUFF. 540 00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:20,867 IT REALLY IS THE ULTIMATE IRONY. 541 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,903 AS WE BURN FOSSIL FUELS, WE WARM THE PLANET. 542 00:28:23,936 --> 00:28:26,505 THE WARMING MELTS THE ICE, 543 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,108 AND THAT JUST MAKES ALL OF THESE NATURAL RESOURCES 544 00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:33,012 MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FOSSIL-FUEL COMPANIES TO EXTRACT, 545 00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:35,181 WHICH THEN FURTHER WARMS THE PLANET. 546 00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:38,384 SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY LOCKED IN THIS VICIOUS CYCLE. 547 00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:04,176 Somerhalder: APALACHICOLA HAS LONG BEEN THE OYSTER CAPITAL OF FLORIDA. 548 00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:06,813 NOT LONG AGO, THIS ONE BAY PRODUCED 549 00:29:06,846 --> 00:29:09,748 10% OF ALL THE OYSTERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 550 00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:14,020 BUT IN THE LAST YEAR, 551 00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:17,223 OYSTER REVENUES ARE DOWN BY ALMOST HALF. 552 00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:20,459 IT'S GOTTEN SO BAD THAT THE U.S. SECRETARY OF COMMERCE 553 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:24,163 OFFICIALLY DECLARED A DISASTER IN THE REGION. 554 00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:27,967 YOU'RE NOT DOING FOR WHAT ONE PEOPLE... 555 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,102 TO HELP EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, 556 00:29:30,136 --> 00:29:32,238 ANNA JANE ASKED KATHARINE HAYHOE, 557 00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:34,406 ONE OF THE WORLD'S LEADING CLIMATE SCIENTISTS, 558 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,942 TO JOIN HER AND RICK. 559 00:29:37,343 --> 00:29:38,577 HEY. HI! 560 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,147 HI. I'M ANNA JANE. NICE TO MEET YOU. 561 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,481 HEY. I'M RICK. KATHARINE. 562 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,350 GOOD TO MEET YOU. YOU, TOO. 563 00:29:44,383 --> 00:29:46,285 Somerhalder: KATHARINE ISN'T JUST A CLIMATE SCIENTIST. 564 00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:48,420 SHE'S ALSO A DEVOUT EVANGELICAL, 565 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,589 THE DAUGHTER OF CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES, 566 00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:52,258 AND SHE'S MARRIED 567 00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:54,293 TO A CONSERVATIVE EVANGELICAL PREACHER. 568 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:57,496 AND THE FUNNY THING IS THAT WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED, 569 00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:59,966 IT WASN'T TILL AFTER WE GOT MARRIED THAT WE REALIZED 570 00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:01,600 THAT HE DIDN'T THINK CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, 571 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,837 SO WE ACTUALLY SPENT THE FIRST -- I DON'T KNOW -- 572 00:30:04,871 --> 00:30:08,074 PROBABLY ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO OF BEING MARRIED 573 00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:10,142 ARGUING THROUGH A LOT OF SCIENTIFIC ISSUES. 574 00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:18,117 THE WAY I THINK OF SCIENCE IS -- 575 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,886 I FEEL LIKE I'M ACTUALLY STUDYING 576 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:21,854 WHAT GOD WAS THINKING WHEN HE PUT THE EARTH TOGETHER. 577 00:30:21,888 --> 00:30:23,856 AND SO I FEEL LIKE THERE IS TRUTH 578 00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:25,124 IN LOOKING AT CREATION. 579 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:27,126 WHEN I SEE ALL THESE THINGS CHANGING, 580 00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:29,929 WE HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE PAST, 581 00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:31,497 HOW IT'S GOTTEN WARMER AND COOLER 582 00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:33,599 AND HOW WE'VE SEEN DIFFERENT CYCLES IN THE PAST. 583 00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:35,234 AND THE THINGS WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW 584 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:37,403 DON'T FIT ANY OF THOSE MOLDS. 585 00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:40,639 Somerhalder: FOR RICK, THIS IS A CHANCE TO LEARN ABOUT SCIENCE 586 00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:43,976 FROM SOMEONE WHO SHARES HIS FAITH. 587 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:45,277 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OBSERVATIONS, 588 00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:48,447 WHAT WE SEE IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, 589 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,150 THE EARTH'S TEMPERATURE GOES UP AND DOWN ALL THE TIME. 590 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:52,952 IT GOES UP AND DOWN FROM YEAR TO YEAR, 591 00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:54,420 AND IT GOES UP AND DOWN OVER TIME. 592 00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:56,889 WHAT WE ALSO SEE, THOUGH, IS, RIGHT NOW, 593 00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:58,490 IT'S GOING UP VERY STEADILY 594 00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:00,292 OVER, YOU KNOW, 20 OR 30 YEARS. 595 00:31:00,326 --> 00:31:02,028 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLANET RIGHT NOW, 596 00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:04,396 THE OCEAN IS WARMING, THE ATMOSPHERE IS WARMING, 597 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,232 THE LAND SURFACE IS WARMING. 598 00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:08,400 EVERY PART OF THE LAND AND THE OCEAN, 599 00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:10,002 THE ATMOSPHERE IS WARMING. 600 00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:13,072 AND WE ALSO SEE 601 00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:15,507 THAT ALL OF THE NATURAL REASONS 602 00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:18,577 WHY CLIMATE HAS CHANGED IN THE PAST RIGHT NOW, 603 00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:20,479 LIKE VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS, THE SOLAR CYCLES, 604 00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:23,349 NATURAL CYCLES, WOULD BE CAUSING US TO COOL. 605 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,952 INSTEAD, WE'RE WARMING. MM-HMM. 606 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:28,487 SO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE BURNING COAL GAS, AND OIL. 607 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,956 WE KNOW THAT. 608 00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:32,024 WE KNOW THAT IT PRODUCES CARBON DIOXIDE. 609 00:31:32,058 --> 00:31:33,292 WE KNOW THAT THE CARBON DIOXIDE IS BUILDING UP IN THE ATMOSPHERE. 610 00:31:33,325 --> 00:31:35,928 WHEN WE ADD EXTRA CARBON DIOXIDE, 611 00:31:35,962 --> 00:31:38,530 IT'S LIKE WRAPPING AN EXTRA BLANKET AROUND THE EARTH. 612 00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:40,266 AND IT KEEPS THE EARTH WARM 613 00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:43,135 EXACTLY THE WAY A JACKET OR A BLANKET KEEPS US WARM. 614 00:31:43,169 --> 00:31:45,537 IT REFLECTS OUR BODY HEAT BACK TO US. 615 00:31:45,571 --> 00:31:47,173 SO THAT'S WHY WE KNOW 616 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:50,409 IT'S US THAT IS DRIVING CLIMATE CHANGE TODAY. 617 00:31:50,442 --> 00:31:53,179 IT'S BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE GETTING COOLER RIGHT NOW, 618 00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:56,148 AND WE'RE NOT. 619 00:31:56,182 --> 00:31:57,950 RICK DOESN'T LOOK CONVINCED, 620 00:31:57,984 --> 00:32:00,586 BUT IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR KATHARINE, 621 00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:03,289 HE'S NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO ASK. 622 00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:10,729 [ INSECTS CHIRPING ] 623 00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,264 HI. 624 00:32:12,298 --> 00:32:14,100 Ken: HELLO. HOW YOU DOING? HI. I'M ANNA JANE. 625 00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:15,567 PLEASURE. 626 00:32:15,601 --> 00:32:17,036 HEY, KEN. 627 00:32:17,069 --> 00:32:20,339 THE LAST HURRICANE, IT BROKE OFF... 628 00:32:25,544 --> 00:32:27,113 AND YOU PUSH THE BOAT. 629 00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:28,981 AND THEN BEFORE THE BOAT SWINGS BACK, 630 00:32:29,015 --> 00:32:31,017 SO I CAN COVER AS MUCH GROUND AS POSSIBLE, 631 00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:33,152 I'LL GRAB MY FOOT AND START FEELING THE BOTTOM, 632 00:32:33,185 --> 00:32:34,753 LOOKING FOR OYSTERS AGAIN. 633 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,123 AND I THINK I MIGHT GET ONE, MAYBE. 634 00:32:37,156 --> 00:32:38,624 [ LAUGHTER ] 635 00:32:38,657 --> 00:32:40,993 THIS IS WHY WE QUIT WORKING THIS WINTER. 636 00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:45,097 Somerhalder: LONG-TIME OYSTERMEN KEN FOLSOM AND HIS SON JOE 637 00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:47,499 ARE STRUGGLING TO HOLD ON TO A DYING WAY OF LIFE. 638 00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:50,236 NOTHING. NOTHING. 639 00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:53,405 AND NOW, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, 640 00:32:53,439 --> 00:32:55,074 STATISTICALLY, 641 00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:57,276 THIS WAS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE BAR 642 00:32:57,309 --> 00:32:59,611 IN THE ENTIRE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BAY. 643 00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:01,547 THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY DREAMED TO COME. 644 00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:03,282 THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY OYSTERED. 645 00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,117 I'VE OYSTERED FOR 30 YEARS. 646 00:33:05,151 --> 00:33:06,752 I RAISED A FAMILY, YOU KNOW? 647 00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,754 I MEAN, THE OYSTERS WERE AS BIG AS MY FOOT. 648 00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,757 THE PROBLEM IS THE WATER. 649 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:14,693 APALACHICOLA IS RIGHT BETWEEN THE GULF OF MEXICO, 650 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,428 WHICH IS SALTWATER, 651 00:33:16,462 --> 00:33:19,231 AND A SERIES OF FRESHWATER RIVERS AND LAKES. 652 00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:21,700 IT'S THE PERFECT HABITAT FOR OYSTERS. 653 00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:23,535 BUT DROUGHTS IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY 654 00:33:23,569 --> 00:33:25,137 HAVE BEEN GETTING MORE SEVERE, 655 00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:28,340 AND CLIMATE CHANGE WILL MAKE THEM EVEN WORSE. 656 00:33:28,374 --> 00:33:32,311 THREE STRAIGHT YEARS OF DROUGHT AND A RISE IN WATER USE UPSTREAM 657 00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,580 HAVE DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE FLOW OF FRESHWATER. 658 00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:38,584 AS A RESULT, THE SALINITY OF THE WATER IN APALACHICOLA BAY 659 00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:41,187 IS TOO HIGH, AND, ON TOP OF THAT, 660 00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:43,522 CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSING THE SEA LEVEL TO RISE, 661 00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:46,425 WHICH WILL BRING IN EVEN MORE SALTWATER. 662 00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,394 SO, OYSTERS NEED THIS PERFECT MIX 663 00:33:48,427 --> 00:33:50,462 OF SALTWATER AND FRESHWATER TO GROW. 664 00:33:50,496 --> 00:33:51,797 AND THEN, IN RECENT YEARS THEN, 665 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,165 THE FRESHWATER'S BEEN LESS AND LESS OF IT 666 00:33:53,199 --> 00:33:54,666 BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT 667 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,202 AND BECAUSE OF PEOPLE NEEDING THE WATER UPSTREAM. 668 00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:57,536 RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 669 00:33:57,569 --> 00:33:59,138 I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. 670 00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:01,140 AND THEN YOU GOT SEA-LEVEL RISING. 671 00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:03,209 AND THEN CLIMATE CHANGE IS MESSING UP 672 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:04,610 OUR RAINFALL PATTERNS, TOO. 673 00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,145 I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, 674 00:34:06,178 --> 00:34:08,414 "YEAH," BUT WE LIVE RIGHT UP THE COAST HERE, 675 00:34:08,447 --> 00:34:11,283 AND I DON'T SEE THE WATER RISING, YOU KNOW. 676 00:34:11,317 --> 00:34:12,551 WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT THERE. 677 00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:15,221 YOU KNOW, THESE ARE DEFINITELY 678 00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:18,224 WORTHY CONSIDERATIONS TO SEARCH OUT. 679 00:34:18,257 --> 00:34:20,092 "IS THIS THE CAUSE?" MM-HMM. 680 00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:23,729 I MEAN, I'M VERY INTERESTED TO HEAR SOMEBODY'S PERSPECTIVE 681 00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,865 WHO'S BEEN ON THE WATER THIS LONG. 682 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:30,702 AND I THINK HE'S THE TYPE OF GUY THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE HEARD. 683 00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,239 YEAH. I WOULD SAY SO. 684 00:34:33,272 --> 00:34:35,541 I'M AN EARLY WARNING BECAUSE IT'S IMPACTING ME NOW. 685 00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:37,843 IT'S PROBABLY GONNA IMPACT YOU TOMORROW. 686 00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:40,479 SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE -- I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY IT, 687 00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:41,747 'CAUSE I'M NOT A REALLY RELIGIOUS PERSON, 688 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,582 BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT SAID IN THE BIBLE, 689 00:34:43,615 --> 00:34:46,252 WHERE ALL THE FISH WOULD DIE IN THE OCEAN. 690 00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:47,553 YOU KNOW, IT'S HAPPENING. 691 00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:50,489 THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST PRISTINE BAYS LEFT 692 00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:51,890 IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. 693 00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:54,593 IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE IT BEING KILLED. 694 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:58,764 AND I FEEL SO POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 695 00:35:11,843 --> 00:35:14,313 Stahl: THERE'S AN OIL RUSH IN THE ARCTIC. 696 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:15,747 AS THE ICE MELTS, 697 00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:18,417 EVERY COUNTRY WITH A STAKE IN THE REGION 698 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:20,352 WANTS IN ON THE GAME. 699 00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:27,293 RUSSIA, NORWAY, ICELAND, CANADA, THE UNITED STATES, AND GREENLAND 700 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:28,694 ARE ALL BELIEVED TO BE SITTING 701 00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:31,763 ON A TREASURE TROVE OF UNDISCOVERED OIL 702 00:35:31,797 --> 00:35:34,166 WORTH TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 703 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,268 AMERICA NEEDS OUR OIL. 704 00:35:36,302 --> 00:35:38,470 AND WHEN ALASKA'S STRONG AND WHEN WE PRODUCE, 705 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:39,838 IT HELPS KEEP THE COUNTRY STRONG. 706 00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,174 WE SEND LESS MONEY OVERSEAS. 707 00:35:42,208 --> 00:35:45,844 Stahl: MEAD TREADWELL IS THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF ALASKA. 708 00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:49,315 HE SAYS DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC IS AMERICA'S BEST OPPORTUNITY 709 00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:51,817 TO END ITS DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL. 710 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,419 BUT I WONDER IF HE THINKS 711 00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:56,188 ABOUT THE OTHER CONSEQUENCES OF FOSSIL FUELS. 712 00:35:56,222 --> 00:35:59,958 SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SCIENTISTS ARE WARNING 713 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:02,394 THAT WE HAVE TO STOP THE DRILLING 714 00:36:02,428 --> 00:36:05,331 AND EXPLORING FOR MORE OIL AND GAS. 715 00:36:05,364 --> 00:36:08,334 THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S GONNA BE A CATASTROPHE 716 00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:09,601 FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. 717 00:36:09,635 --> 00:36:11,903 WELL, I GUESS I'D ASK YOU THIS. 718 00:36:11,937 --> 00:36:13,205 DO YOU DRIVE A CAR? 719 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,306 NOPE. 720 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:15,407 DO YOU EVER RIDE IN A CAR? 721 00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:16,708 [ Laughing ] YES. 722 00:36:16,742 --> 00:36:17,876 GOTCHA. OF COURSE YOU DO. 723 00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:19,545 I MEAN, THE POINT IS -- 724 00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:22,748 I GOT HERE IN A JET THAT WAS FUELED BY FOSSIL FUEL. 725 00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:25,284 LET'S SAY YOU'RE RIGHT 726 00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:27,319 AND LET'S SAY THEY'RE RIGHT, OKAY? 727 00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:28,720 THEN THE QUESTION IS -- 728 00:36:28,754 --> 00:36:30,356 CAN YOU PUT THE TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE? 729 00:36:30,389 --> 00:36:34,626 NO, BUT WE CAN NOT MAKE IT WORSE. 730 00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:35,961 WE CAN TAKE STEPS 731 00:36:35,994 --> 00:36:37,929 TO NOT EXACERBATE WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. 732 00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:40,566 OKAY, SO, YOU'RE GONNA QUIT FLYING. 733 00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:41,800 YOU'RE GONNA QUIT DRIVING. 734 00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,469 I MEAN, THE FACT IS 735 00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:46,405 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING FOSSIL FUELS FOR SOME TIME. 736 00:36:46,438 --> 00:36:49,508 I DON'T BELIEVE HOLDING ALASKA ENERGY OFF THE MARKET 737 00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:50,876 IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY. 738 00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,678 CANADA, GREENLAND, 739 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:55,914 FOR DENMARK, ICELAND, NORWAY, RUSSIA -- 740 00:36:55,947 --> 00:36:58,650 WE ARE ALL COMPETING FOR INVESTMENT DOLLARS. 741 00:36:58,684 --> 00:37:01,253 I WAS IN THE ROOM WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN A FEW YEARS AGO, 742 00:37:01,287 --> 00:37:04,756 WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A DEAL HE MADE WITH EXXON 743 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:10,262 WHERE HE EXPECTS $350 BILLION WORTH OF INVESTMENT 744 00:37:10,296 --> 00:37:11,997 FLOWING THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR DEAL. 745 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:13,365 TO FIND OIL AND GAS. 746 00:37:13,399 --> 00:37:14,700 TO FIND AND PRODUCE IT, YEAH. 747 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,869 AND SO, WE ARE ALL IN A COMPETITION TO -- 748 00:37:17,903 --> 00:37:20,506 BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY APPEARING 749 00:37:20,539 --> 00:37:22,308 IN THE SAME BOARDROOMS AROUND THE WORLD -- 750 00:37:22,341 --> 00:37:24,743 YOU KNOW, EXXON INVESTS IN MANY OF OUR DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. 751 00:37:24,776 --> 00:37:27,713 ConocoPhillips INVESTS IN MANY OF THESE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. 752 00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,816 AND SO THE QUESTION IS -- WHICH ARCTIC REGION 753 00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:33,819 WILL WIN THAT INVESTMENT BATTLE? 754 00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:35,887 [ SINGING IN NATIVE LANGUAGE ] 755 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,430 AND THAT BATTLE INCLUDES GREENLAND. 756 00:37:44,463 --> 00:37:48,066 THEY'RE ON THE FRONT LINES OF GLOBAL WARMING. 757 00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:50,402 ICE IS PART OF THEIR NATIONAL IDENTITY. 758 00:37:50,436 --> 00:37:52,638 AND I EXPECTED THEM TO BE OUTRAGED 759 00:37:52,671 --> 00:37:55,407 BY THE DRAMATIC CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE, 760 00:37:55,441 --> 00:37:57,676 BUT, INSTEAD, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, 761 00:37:57,709 --> 00:38:00,679 THEY SEE THE MELTING ICE AS AN OPPORTUNITY. 762 00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:03,682 OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, 763 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:06,818 OIL COMPANIES HAVE BEEN SPENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS 764 00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:10,322 TO LEASE GIANT TRACTS OF OFFSHORE REAL ESTATE HERE 765 00:38:10,356 --> 00:38:12,924 JUST SO THEY CAN LOOK FOR OIL. 766 00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:16,595 I WANT TO ASK GREENLAND'S PRIME MINISTER, ALEQA HAMMOND, 767 00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:18,630 WHAT THAT KIND OF MONEY WOULD MEAN 768 00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:22,834 FOR A RELATIVELY POOR COUNTRY OF JUST 57,000 PEOPLE. 769 00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:24,336 I HAVE A MAP 770 00:38:24,370 --> 00:38:26,372 SO THAT YOU AND I CAN LOOK AT THE MAP 771 00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:29,708 THAT SHOWS JUST WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 772 00:38:29,741 --> 00:38:33,612 SO, THIS IS GREENLAND, OBVIOUSLY. 773 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:38,417 AND THIS IS WHERE ALL THE OIL EXPLORATION IS GOING ON. 774 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:43,822 THAT LOOKS LIKE A HUGE SWATH OF REAL ESTATE OUT THERE. 775 00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,691 THE NEW OIL AROUND THE WORLD 776 00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:48,126 TO BE FOUND IN THE FUTURE IS IN GREENLAND. 777 00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:49,761 DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH 778 00:38:49,795 --> 00:38:52,731 THE OIL COMPANIES ARE ALREADY SPENDING 779 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,900 FOR THIS EXPLORATION OUT THERE? 780 00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:56,868 A LOT OF DOLLARS. 781 00:38:56,902 --> 00:38:58,437 MORE -- AM I RIGHT? -- 782 00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:00,138 THAN THE GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT OF GREENLAND? 783 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:01,940 YES, YES. 784 00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:05,377 THEY'RE SPENDING MORE THAN THE WHOLE ECONOMY OF GREENLAND 785 00:39:05,411 --> 00:39:07,879 JUST TO FIND THIS OIL OUT THERE. 786 00:39:07,913 --> 00:39:09,648 AND IF THEY FIND IT, 787 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:12,384 EVERY CITIZEN OF GREENLAND WILL BENEFIT IN SOME WAY. 788 00:39:12,418 --> 00:39:14,953 YES, OF COURSE. OTHERWISE, WE DIDN'T DO THAT. 789 00:39:14,986 --> 00:39:17,589 THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTALISTS 790 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:20,992 WHO WOULD WANT YOU NOT EVEN TO DEVELOP THE OIL. 791 00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:25,597 IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THESE ENVIRONMENTALISTS KNOW 792 00:39:25,631 --> 00:39:29,468 THAT THIS IS NOT A MUSEUM. 793 00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:31,637 THIS IS NOT NEW FRONTIER, 794 00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:33,939 WHERE YOU CAN JUST MAKE A NEW TREATY 795 00:39:33,972 --> 00:39:36,107 SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT TO BE TOUCHED. 796 00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:39,945 PEOPLE LIVE HERE. 797 00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:43,682 WE HAVE A WORD TO SAY. 798 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,418 IF WE ARE NOT TO BECOME VICTIMIZED 799 00:39:46,452 --> 00:39:49,187 IN THIS CLIMATE-CHANGE ISSUE, 800 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:50,956 IT'S IMPORTANT, AS A POLITICIAN, 801 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:54,926 WE FIND OTHER OPTIONS FOR INCOME AS A PEOPLE. 802 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:08,440 Woman: OKAY, SO, Y'ALL TELL ME ABOUT YOUR TRIP. 803 00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:10,976 IT WAS AWESOME. 804 00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:12,844 IT WAS A GREAT TRIP. 805 00:40:12,878 --> 00:40:17,015 A LOT OF FUN, LEARNED A LOT. 806 00:40:17,048 --> 00:40:19,851 I THOUGHT I'D GET THE ULTIMATE ANSWER -- 807 00:40:19,885 --> 00:40:22,988 IS CLIMATE CHANGE FOR REAL OR NOT? 808 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:25,524 AND I DIDN'T. 809 00:40:25,557 --> 00:40:27,125 YOU KNOW, SORRY THAT IT SEEMED 810 00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:30,862 LIKE SHE CAME JUST AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMING THIS IS CLIMATE CHANGE 811 00:40:30,896 --> 00:40:32,197 AND THIS IS DAMAGED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. 812 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,865 SHE WASN'T ASSUMING IT, DAD. SHE STUDIES IT. 813 00:40:33,899 --> 00:40:36,902 IT'S WHAT SHE DOES FOR A LIVING. IT'S NOT AN ASSUMPTION. 814 00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:39,170 THERE IS COPIOUS RESEARCH THAT INDICATES 815 00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,540 THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS MAKING DROUGHTS WORSE 816 00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:46,044 AND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE 817 00:40:46,077 --> 00:40:49,147 AS OUR LIFE -- LIKE, WITHIN MY LIFETIME, 818 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:50,649 IT'S GOING TO BECOME 819 00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:52,884 AN INCREASINGLY MORE DIFFICULT PROBLEM 820 00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:54,986 FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE FRESHWATER. 821 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:56,622 THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION. 822 00:40:56,655 --> 00:40:57,856 IT'S NOT AN ASSUMPTION, DAD. 823 00:40:57,889 --> 00:40:59,491 THERE'S SOLID, SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE 824 00:40:59,525 --> 00:41:00,592 THAT THAT'S THE CASE. 825 00:41:00,626 --> 00:41:01,660 WELL, I'VE HEARD THAT SO MUCH, 826 00:41:01,693 --> 00:41:03,094 BUT NOBODY'S PRESENTED 827 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:05,230 THAT SOLID SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, IN MY OPINION. 828 00:41:05,263 --> 00:41:06,865 WELL, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME 829 00:41:06,898 --> 00:41:08,767 LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR REASONS NOT TO BELIEVE IT. 830 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,536 WELL, YEAH, I DON'T THINK I WAS. 831 00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:11,637 MAYBE I AM. 832 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:13,138 IT'S NOT UNLIKE -- 833 00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:15,741 YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T LINK CANCER TO CIGARETTES 100%, 834 00:41:15,774 --> 00:41:17,142 BUT YOU WOULDN'T GIVE 835 00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:18,677 YOUR 10-YEAR-OLD CHILD A PACK OF CIGARETTES, 836 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:21,012 BECAUSE THERE'S SOME MEASURE OF UNCERTAINTY. 837 00:41:21,046 --> 00:41:23,782 WELL, WE'VE HAD CASES IN HISTORY 838 00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:25,884 WHERE 99% OF PEOPLE BELIEVE ONE THING, 839 00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:27,285 AND THEY WERE TOTALLY WRONG. 840 00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:30,922 DAD, I WOULD BET MY LIFE ON THE FACT 841 00:41:30,956 --> 00:41:33,625 THAT HISTORY WILL SAY THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, 842 00:41:33,659 --> 00:41:35,193 AND WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 843 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,862 AND RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE IN THE CAMP 844 00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:38,564 THAT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 845 00:41:38,597 --> 00:41:40,666 DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE IN THAT CAMP? 846 00:41:40,699 --> 00:41:42,534 I WANT TO BE IN THE CAMP OF THE TRUTH. 847 00:41:42,568 --> 00:41:44,636 I'M SAYING I WOULD BET MY LIFE ON IT. 848 00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:46,538 YEAH, BECAUSE, SEE, THAT'S AN EMOTIONAL PERSUASION. 849 00:41:46,572 --> 00:41:47,773 NO, IT'S NOT AN EMOTION. 850 00:41:47,806 --> 00:41:49,675 IT STILL DOESN'T GIVE ME THE FACTS. 851 00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:51,677 I'VE JUST SET YOU UP 852 00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:54,646 WITH ONE OF THE MOST RENOWNED CLIMATE SCIENTISTS IN THE WORLD. 853 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,947 YOU WEREN'T WILLING TO HEAR THE FACTS. 854 00:41:55,981 --> 00:41:57,182 I THINK I WAS. 855 00:41:57,215 --> 00:41:59,217 WE ARE CONSISTENTLY, CONSTANTLY COMING 856 00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:01,787 UP TO OUR PARENTS, TO OUR FRIENDS, 857 00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:03,955 WHO ARE JUST LOOKING THE OTHER WAY. 858 00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:06,558 WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA ERR, WHICH SIDE WE WANT TO ERR ON? 859 00:42:06,592 --> 00:42:08,660 WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION 860 00:42:08,694 --> 00:42:10,095 IF YOU WEREN'T OUR DAUGHTER. 861 00:42:10,128 --> 00:42:12,230 I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU 862 00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:16,167 TO PUT SOME ENERGY INTO DOING THE RESEARCH, 863 00:42:16,201 --> 00:42:17,936 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE SIDE 864 00:42:17,969 --> 00:42:21,106 THAT SAID, "I HAD A CHANCE, AND I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING." 865 00:42:30,248 --> 00:42:32,217 [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] 866 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:35,587 Stahl: IT TURNS OUT NOT EVERYONE IS CONTENT 867 00:42:35,621 --> 00:42:40,258 TO STAND BY AND WATCH THE ARCTIC BECOME THE NEXT SAUDI ARABIA. 868 00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:43,361 GREENPEACE IS CAMPAIGNING ALL OVER THE WORLD 869 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:46,965 TO MAKE THE ARCTIC A NO-DRILLING ZONE. 870 00:42:49,635 --> 00:42:51,302 THIS PAST SEPTEMBER, 871 00:42:51,336 --> 00:42:54,673 30 GREENPEACE ACTIVISTS CRASHED AN OIL RIG 872 00:42:54,706 --> 00:42:56,742 OWNED BY ENERGY GIANT GAZPROM. 873 00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:58,777 SOME OF THEM ENDED UP 874 00:42:58,810 --> 00:43:02,580 SPENDING THREE MONTHS IN A RUSSIAN PRISON AS A RESULT. 875 00:43:03,949 --> 00:43:06,685 THEY SEEM WILLING TO DO ALMOST ANYTHING 876 00:43:06,718 --> 00:43:09,054 TO PLACE THIS ISSUE ON THE WORLD STAGE. 877 00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:17,629 [ PEOPLE CHANTING IN NATIVE LANGUAGE ] 878 00:43:21,332 --> 00:43:23,769 [ CHANTING CONTINUES ] 879 00:43:26,738 --> 00:43:29,841 Man: THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING. 880 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:31,176 THERE ARE DANGERS. 881 00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:32,911 THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES. 882 00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:35,380 Stahl: I'D NEVER HEARD OF THE ARCTIC COUNCIL. 883 00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:37,749 IT'S SORT OF A POLAR U.N. 884 00:43:37,783 --> 00:43:40,218 THIS ASSEMBLY OF ARCTIC NATIONS 885 00:43:40,251 --> 00:43:44,255 HAS BEEN MEETING FOR ALMOST TWO DECADES WITHOUT MUCH FANFARE, 886 00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:47,959 BUT LATELY, THESE MEETINGS HAVE TAKEN ON A NEW URGENCY. 887 00:43:47,993 --> 00:43:50,361 GOOD MORNING. 888 00:43:50,395 --> 00:43:52,397 Woman: TODAY, THE ARCTIC IS RECEIVING 889 00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:56,101 UNPRECEDENTED INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION. 890 00:43:56,134 --> 00:43:57,736 Man: THE ARCTIC HAS BECOME 891 00:43:57,769 --> 00:44:01,873 PART OF WORLD POLITICS AS WE NEVER SAW BEFORE. 892 00:44:01,907 --> 00:44:05,677 TODAY, AS SECRETARY OF STATE, I COME HERE KEENLY AWARE 893 00:44:05,711 --> 00:44:08,079 THAT THE LONG LIST OF CHALLENGES -- 894 00:44:08,113 --> 00:44:10,348 ICE MELT, RISING SEA LEVELS, 895 00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:13,852 AND INDISCRIMINATE DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES -- 896 00:44:13,885 --> 00:44:15,687 ALL OF THESE CARRY 897 00:44:15,721 --> 00:44:19,257 EVEN MORE CHALLENGES DOWNSTREAM, SO TO SPEAK, 898 00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:22,861 TO EACH OF OUR ECONOMIES, TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, 899 00:44:22,894 --> 00:44:25,030 AND TO INTERNATIONAL STABILITY. 900 00:44:25,063 --> 00:44:26,364 WHAT HAPPENS HERE 901 00:44:26,397 --> 00:44:28,934 TOUCHES EVERY SINGLE PERSON AROUND THE WORLD 902 00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:30,969 AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. 903 00:44:31,002 --> 00:44:33,304 Stahl: BUT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL HAS ISSUED NUMEROUS REPORTS 904 00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:36,241 ON THE THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES TO THE REGION, 905 00:44:36,274 --> 00:44:41,312 THEY ARE DOING NOTHING TO STOP THE MAD RUSH FOR FOSSIL FUELS. 906 00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:45,984 AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT JOHN KERRY THINKS OF ALL THIS. 907 00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:51,156 HE'S BEEN SOUNDING THE ALARM ON CLIMATE CHANGE FOR DECADES. 908 00:44:51,189 --> 00:44:53,391 AS A SENATOR, HE TRIED FOR YEARS 909 00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:56,962 TO MAKE FOSSIL-FUEL COMPANIES PAY FOR THE RIGHT 910 00:44:56,995 --> 00:45:00,065 TO DUMP HEAT-TRAPPING GASES INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. 911 00:45:00,098 --> 00:45:01,733 HE FAILED, THANKS, IN PART, 912 00:45:01,767 --> 00:45:04,803 TO A HALF-BILLION-DOLLAR LOBBYING CAMPAIGN 913 00:45:04,836 --> 00:45:07,138 BY ENERGY COMPANIES. 914 00:45:07,172 --> 00:45:11,109 Stahl: SO, AS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE 915 00:45:11,142 --> 00:45:14,980 ON THIS ISSUE FOREVER, FOR DECADES NOW, 916 00:45:15,013 --> 00:45:17,115 IT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU 917 00:45:17,148 --> 00:45:19,184 THAT, I GUESS, THE ENERGY DEPARTMENT GIVES OUT 918 00:45:19,217 --> 00:45:21,152 HUNDREDS OF PERMITS TO OIL COMPANIES 919 00:45:21,186 --> 00:45:24,389 TO DIG IN THE ALASKAN ARCTIC? 920 00:45:24,422 --> 00:45:26,091 DOES IT BOTHER YOU? SURE, IT BOTHERS ME. 921 00:45:26,124 --> 00:45:27,158 OF COURSE IT DOES. 922 00:45:27,192 --> 00:45:28,860 HOW COULD IT NOT BOTHER YOU, 923 00:45:28,894 --> 00:45:31,830 IF YOU ACCEPT THE SCIENTIFIC FACTS THAT I'VE SAID I ACCEPT? 924 00:45:31,863 --> 00:45:33,164 OF COURSE IT BOTHERS ME, 925 00:45:33,198 --> 00:45:35,834 WHICH IS WHY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION 926 00:45:35,867 --> 00:45:37,268 HAS ISSUED NEW RESTRAINTS 927 00:45:37,302 --> 00:45:40,105 ON COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS, NEW POWER SOURCES. 928 00:45:40,138 --> 00:45:42,540 WE'VE GOT NEW STANDARDS FOR AUTOMOBILES, TRUCKS. 929 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:44,442 I MEAN, WE'RE DOING THINGS, 930 00:45:44,475 --> 00:45:48,780 BUT, FRANKLY, WE NEED A MAJOR SHIFT IN THE RESPONSE 931 00:45:48,814 --> 00:45:50,916 OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 932 00:45:50,949 --> 00:45:52,317 TO HOW WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE OUR ENERGY. 933 00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:54,185 WHY NOT JUST STOP 934 00:45:54,219 --> 00:45:58,123 GIVING OUT PERMITS RIGHT NOW FOR DRILLING 935 00:45:58,156 --> 00:46:01,827 AND LOOKING FOR MORE OIL AND MORE RESOURCES IN THE ARCTIC? 936 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:04,495 BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE LOOKING FORWARD 937 00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:05,931 OR THE DRILLING RIGHT NOW 938 00:46:05,964 --> 00:46:07,198 THAT'S GONNA MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. 939 00:46:07,232 --> 00:46:08,934 YOU CAN'T CUT IT OFF WITHOUT AN ALTERNATIVE. 940 00:46:08,967 --> 00:46:12,203 IF YOU WERE GETTING AN ANALYST'S REPORT IN A COMPANY 941 00:46:12,237 --> 00:46:15,473 AND YOU ARE SAYING TO THEM, "WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE 942 00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:17,342 "ABOUT WHERE OUR ENERGY'S GONNA COME FROM 943 00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:19,044 IN 15 OR 20 YEARS?" 944 00:46:19,077 --> 00:46:21,913 BECAUSE OF THE SLOWNESS OF THE POLITICAL SYSTEM TO RESPOND, 945 00:46:21,947 --> 00:46:23,882 BECAUSE OF THE POWER OF SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES 946 00:46:23,915 --> 00:46:25,917 TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING FAST, 947 00:46:25,951 --> 00:46:27,118 YOU'D BET ON THE FACT 948 00:46:27,152 --> 00:46:29,254 THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE STATUS QUO 949 00:46:29,287 --> 00:46:30,588 IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 950 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,291 AND THAT'S WHY THE MONEY IS CHASING THAT FUTURE. 951 00:46:33,324 --> 00:46:37,028 SO, THERE IS NO POLICY TO SAY, 952 00:46:37,062 --> 00:46:40,065 "THE OIL AND GAS IN THE ARCTIC SHOULD STAY WHERE IT IS. 953 00:46:40,098 --> 00:46:41,366 WE SHOULDN'T DIG IT UP." 954 00:46:41,399 --> 00:46:43,001 THERE'S NO POLICY YET. 955 00:46:43,034 --> 00:46:47,205 WHEN I WAS EARLY INVOLVED IN THE ENVIRONMENT EFFORTS, 956 00:46:47,238 --> 00:46:49,908 BACK IN 1970, WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST EARTH DAY, 957 00:46:49,941 --> 00:46:51,576 AND 20 MILLION AMERICANS CAME OUT 958 00:46:51,609 --> 00:46:53,244 AND SAID, "WE WANT A CHANGE," 959 00:46:53,278 --> 00:46:56,848 THEY ALSO UNELECTED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN CONGRESS, 960 00:46:56,882 --> 00:46:58,449 AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT A CLEAN AIR ACT, 961 00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:00,451 SAFE DRINKING WATER, MARINE-MAMMAL PROTECTION. 962 00:47:00,485 --> 00:47:01,953 ALL THOSE ACTS HAPPENED. 963 00:47:01,987 --> 00:47:03,989 WE EVEN CREATED THE EPA OUT OF THAT. 964 00:47:04,022 --> 00:47:07,625 THAT'S WHAT WE NEED AGAIN. WE NEED A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT. 965 00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,127 WE NEED AMERICANS 966 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,529 TO BE DEMANDING OF THEIR PUBLIC OFFICIALS 967 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:15,333 THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBLE ENERGY POLICY. 968 00:47:23,108 --> 00:47:25,143 Somerhalder: AS ANNA JANE KEEPS THINKING 969 00:47:25,176 --> 00:47:27,112 ABOUT HOW TO CONVINCE HER FATHER, 970 00:47:27,145 --> 00:47:29,915 RICK IS BUSY DOING HIS OWN RESEARCH 971 00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,217 AND FINDS ALL SORTS OF INFORMATION 972 00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:36,421 THAT CONFIRMS HIS WORLD VIEW AND ATTACKS THE SCIENCE. 973 00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:39,490 IN REALITY, THE U.S. NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES, 974 00:47:39,524 --> 00:47:41,292 THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, 975 00:47:41,326 --> 00:47:44,529 AND HUNDREDS OF SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD 976 00:47:44,562 --> 00:47:47,565 HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, 977 00:47:47,598 --> 00:47:50,235 THAT HUMANS ARE MAINLY RESPONSIBLE, 978 00:47:50,268 --> 00:47:52,537 AND THAT THE IMPACTS WILL BE SEVERE. 979 00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:55,907 BUT NONE OF THAT SEEMS TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON RICK. 980 00:47:55,941 --> 00:47:58,176 ON A GLOBAL SCALE, 981 00:47:58,209 --> 00:47:59,677 WHEN YOU START COMPILING 982 00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:02,447 THE FINDINGS OF THOUSANDS OF SCIENTISTS, 983 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,550 ALL ROADS INEXORABLY LEAD TO THE EARTH IS WARMING 984 00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:07,152 BECAUSE OF CO2 EMISSIONS. 985 00:48:07,185 --> 00:48:09,187 WELL, ONE THING -- 986 00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:13,424 THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT COUNTERS ALMOST EVERYTHING, 987 00:48:13,458 --> 00:48:15,193 AND IT IS SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION. 988 00:48:15,226 --> 00:48:17,362 WOULD YOU LET ME BRING THE EVIDENCE AGAINST IT 989 00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:19,130 AND PRESENT IT? 990 00:48:19,164 --> 00:48:24,169 WHICH I'VE NOT YET HAD ANY CLIMATE-CHANGE PROPONENT 991 00:48:24,202 --> 00:48:25,603 BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO. 992 00:48:25,636 --> 00:48:28,073 Somerhalder: A FAIR REQUEST. 993 00:48:28,106 --> 00:48:29,640 SO I START LOOKING FOR A SCIENTIST 994 00:48:29,674 --> 00:48:31,509 WHO'D BE WILLING TO HEAR RICK OUT. 995 00:48:38,649 --> 00:48:41,719 AND I THINK I FOUND THE PERFECT PERSON -- 996 00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:45,090 SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY USED TO SEE THINGS THE SAME WAY RICK DOES. 997 00:48:45,123 --> 00:48:47,358 AND, IN FACT, HE USED TO BE 998 00:48:47,392 --> 00:48:50,161 ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL CLIMATE DENIERS IN THE COUNTRY. 999 00:48:50,195 --> 00:48:52,363 I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, 1000 00:48:52,397 --> 00:48:54,132 IN WHICH I WAS, INDEED, A SKEPTIC. 1001 00:48:54,165 --> 00:48:57,168 Somerhalder: FOR YEARS, DR. RICHARD MULLER'S RESEARCH 1002 00:48:57,202 --> 00:48:58,703 WAS FUNDED, IN PART, 1003 00:48:58,736 --> 00:49:02,207 BY FOSSIL-FUEL BILLIONAIRES CHARLES AND DAVID KOCH, 1004 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,642 WHO HAVE FUNDED NUMEROUS CLIMATE-DENIAL EFFORTS. 1005 00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:09,180 BUT THEN, IN 2012, HE FLIPPED. 1006 00:49:09,214 --> 00:49:11,116 NOW DR. MULLER TRIES TO CONVINCE 1007 00:49:11,149 --> 00:49:13,751 WHAT HE CALLS "SOPHISTICATED SKEPTICS" -- 1008 00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:16,254 PEOPLE LIKE RICK JOYNER. 1009 00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:18,189 ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH SCIENCE -- 1010 00:49:18,223 --> 00:49:23,328 I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF HERE THAT QUESTION THE SCIENCE. 1011 00:49:23,361 --> 00:49:25,330 I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEY DISAPPROVE. 1012 00:49:25,363 --> 00:49:27,232 YOU MEAN AS A WHOLE, THE SCIENCE AS A WHOLE. 1013 00:49:27,265 --> 00:49:31,636 PROBLEMS WITH THE MATH, PROBLEMS WITH THE PSYCHOLOGY, 1014 00:49:31,669 --> 00:49:33,671 PROBLEMS WITH THE POLITICS, 1015 00:49:33,704 --> 00:49:36,007 AND THERE IS SOME DEFINITE HYPOCRISY. 1016 00:49:36,041 --> 00:49:38,276 Somerhalder: WE TALKED FOR OVER THREE HOURS. 1017 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:41,012 IS IT MORE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED? 1018 00:49:41,046 --> 00:49:42,680 AND, IF SO, WHAT ARE THE POLITICS? 1019 00:49:42,713 --> 00:49:45,016 IT CAN BE OTHER FACTORS, MANY OTHER FACTORS, 1020 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:47,785 CAUSING A SEEMING DECREASE IN TEMPERATURES. 1021 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,522 IS CO2 REALLY THE FACTOR THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS? 1022 00:49:51,556 --> 00:49:53,091 Somerhalder: PASTOR RICK LAID OUT 1023 00:49:53,124 --> 00:49:55,026 ALL THE REASONS HE DOUBTED CLIMATE CHANGE. 1024 00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:57,295 AND DR. MULLER RESPONDED 1025 00:49:57,328 --> 00:49:59,564 WITH THE FINDINGS OF HIS INVESTIGATION. 1026 00:49:59,597 --> 00:50:02,033 WHEN WE STARTED THIS WORK THREE YEARS AGO, 1027 00:50:02,067 --> 00:50:04,269 IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME THAT THE TEMPERATURES HAD RISEN. 1028 00:50:04,302 --> 00:50:06,704 SO THE THERMOMETER DATA WAS IMPORTANT. 1029 00:50:06,737 --> 00:50:08,206 SO, WHAT DID YOU DO? 1030 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,042 I FELT WE HAD TO START FROM THE BEGINNING, 1031 00:50:11,076 --> 00:50:13,411 ANALYZE THE DATA OURSELVES. 1032 00:50:13,444 --> 00:50:16,414 WE WERE ABLE TO DERIVE A TEMPERATURE CURVE 1033 00:50:16,447 --> 00:50:18,416 THAT STARTS IN 1753. 1034 00:50:18,449 --> 00:50:20,051 SO, WILL YOU SHOW US THIS? 1035 00:50:20,085 --> 00:50:23,254 YEAH, LET ME SHOW YOU. HERE'S THE PLOT. 1036 00:50:23,288 --> 00:50:26,191 SO, THIS LIGHT LINE THAT BOUNCES UP AND DOWN 1037 00:50:26,224 --> 00:50:28,559 IS OUR TEMPERATURE RECORD GOING BACK TO 1753. 1038 00:50:28,593 --> 00:50:30,328 Somerhalder: THE CURVE SHOWED 1039 00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:33,364 A STEADY RISE IN TEMPERATURE DURING THE INDUSTRIAL AGE, 1040 00:50:33,398 --> 00:50:35,266 BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING PUZZLING. 1041 00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:38,669 THERE WERE ALSO A SERIES OF SUDDEN DROPS IN TEMPERATURE. 1042 00:50:38,703 --> 00:50:43,074 SO DR. MULLER AND HIS TEAM LOOKED FOR AN EXPLANATION. 1043 00:50:43,108 --> 00:50:44,742 AND IT TURNS OUT THESE DROPS IN TEMPERATURES 1044 00:50:44,775 --> 00:50:47,278 ALL MATCHED THE KNOWN VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS. 1045 00:50:47,312 --> 00:50:48,746 AND THE FACT THAT WE COULD SEE THESE 1046 00:50:48,779 --> 00:50:50,615 GAVE US THAT MUCH MORE CONFIDENCE 1047 00:50:50,648 --> 00:50:52,817 THAT WHAT WE HAD DONE WAS RIGHT. 1048 00:50:52,850 --> 00:50:55,753 VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS CAUSE THE PLANET TO COOL 1049 00:50:55,786 --> 00:50:58,856 BECAUSE ALL THE ASH IN THE AIR BLOCKS SUNLIGHT. 1050 00:50:58,889 --> 00:51:01,226 BUT WE COULD SEE THEY WERE ALL VERY SHORT-LIVED. 1051 00:51:01,259 --> 00:51:03,594 NOW, WE GOT THIS GRADUAL CHANGE -- 1052 00:51:03,628 --> 00:51:05,430 COMES ALL THE WAY UP HERE. 1053 00:51:05,463 --> 00:51:08,099 WHAT IS THAT? 1054 00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:11,202 THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT CAN CAUSE AN EXPONENTIAL RISE, 1055 00:51:11,236 --> 00:51:13,471 THINGS UNRELATED TO GLOBAL-WARMING THEORY. 1056 00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:17,208 SO, WE PUT IN THE SOLAR VARIABILITY. 1057 00:51:17,242 --> 00:51:18,776 WE HAVE GOOD RECORDS OF SUNSPOTS. 1058 00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:20,645 AND I TRIED THE SOLAR VARIABILITY. 1059 00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:23,748 AND, FINALLY, MY FORMER GRADUATE STUDENT SAID, 1060 00:51:23,781 --> 00:51:25,750 "WHY DON'T YOU TRY THE WORLD POPULATION?" 1061 00:51:25,783 --> 00:51:29,454 I DID THAT, AND IT WAS ALSO NOT A VERY GOOD FIT. 1062 00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:32,457 Somerhalder: AFTER EXHAUSTING ALL THE POSSIBLE NATURAL CAUSES, 1063 00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:35,493 MULLER FINALLY PLUGGED IN CARBON DIOXIDE. 1064 00:51:35,526 --> 00:51:39,764 IN THE END, THE FIT THAT I GOT BEST, 1065 00:51:39,797 --> 00:51:42,133 THE FIT YOU SEE HERE -- 1066 00:51:42,167 --> 00:51:45,203 AND THIS WAS A JAW-DROPPING EXPERIENCE -- 1067 00:51:45,236 --> 00:51:47,272 BY FAR, THE BEST FIT 1068 00:51:47,305 --> 00:51:51,509 WAS WHEN I PUT IN THE VOLCANOES AND CARBON DIOXIDE. 1069 00:51:51,542 --> 00:51:53,511 THIS WAS REALLY THE "EUREKA" MOMENT. 1070 00:51:53,544 --> 00:51:56,214 GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL AND CAUSED BY HUMANS. 1071 00:51:56,247 --> 00:51:58,749 Somerhalder: IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH, ULTIMATELY, 1072 00:51:58,783 --> 00:52:00,818 RIGHT AROUND WHEN THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION HAPPENED? 1073 00:52:00,851 --> 00:52:02,553 WHEN WE STARTED SPEWING OUT 1074 00:52:02,587 --> 00:52:05,790 COPIOUS QUANTITIES OF CO2 TO OUR DEVELOPMENT? 1075 00:52:05,823 --> 00:52:07,492 HERE, THERE WAS A SLIGHT RISE, 1076 00:52:07,525 --> 00:52:09,227 AND THAT WAS MOSTLY DUE TO THE BURNING OF WOOD. 1077 00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:10,795 AND YOU GET UP HERE INTO THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, 1078 00:52:10,828 --> 00:52:12,663 AND IT STARTS GOING UP FASTER. 1079 00:52:12,697 --> 00:52:15,233 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CARBON IN THE ATMOSPHERE, 1080 00:52:15,266 --> 00:52:19,170 AND YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT IT'S FOSSIL FUEL. 1081 00:52:19,204 --> 00:52:20,905 SO, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF HIS ARGUMENTS 1082 00:52:20,938 --> 00:52:22,640 TO YOUR CONCERNS AND VICE VERSA. 1083 00:52:22,673 --> 00:52:23,941 WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW? 1084 00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:25,843 I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. 1085 00:52:25,876 --> 00:52:28,779 I MEAN, THIS HASN'T RESOLVED ALL OF MY ANSWERS, 1086 00:52:28,813 --> 00:52:31,182 BUT HE HAS REALLY -- 1087 00:52:31,216 --> 00:52:32,950 AT LEAST YOU'VE SHOWN ME SOMEONE 1088 00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:35,320 WHO I FELT LIKE HAD A TRUE SCIENCE... 1089 00:52:35,353 --> 00:52:37,588 YEAH. ...PERSPECTIVE. 1090 00:52:37,622 --> 00:52:38,723 MOST OF MY OTHER ONES, 1091 00:52:38,756 --> 00:52:39,757 THE PROBLEMS WITH THE PSYCHOLOGY, 1092 00:52:39,790 --> 00:52:41,559 WITH THE POLITICS. 1093 00:52:41,592 --> 00:52:44,595 YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIT AROUND AND ARGUE THIS TILL WE ALL DIE, 1094 00:52:44,629 --> 00:52:45,963 AND THAT DOESN'T CHANGE 1095 00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:48,266 THE FACT THAT IT'S REAL AND THAT IT'S HAPPENING. 1096 00:52:48,299 --> 00:52:50,268 AND SO, AT WHAT POINT 1097 00:52:50,301 --> 00:52:52,970 DO WE HAVE TO PUT ASIDE THE POLITICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL 1098 00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:55,340 AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC, 1099 00:52:55,373 --> 00:52:56,841 AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM, 1100 00:52:56,874 --> 00:53:00,511 BUT JUST REALLY TAKE THE SCIENCE FOR WHAT IT IS? 1101 00:53:08,653 --> 00:53:11,489 Stahl: SINCE MY TRIP TO THE ARCTIC, 1102 00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:14,292 THE FOSSIL-FUEL RUSH HAS CONTINUED. 1103 00:53:14,325 --> 00:53:17,495 GREENLAND RECENTLY GRANTED NEW EXPLORATION LICENSES 1104 00:53:17,528 --> 00:53:20,731 TO SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL OIL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, 1105 00:53:20,765 --> 00:53:25,236 INCLUDING CHEVRON, ConocoPhillips, AND BP. 1106 00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:26,637 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, 1107 00:53:26,671 --> 00:53:29,440 THE RUSSIANS HAVE STRUCK OIL IN THE ARCTIC 1108 00:53:29,474 --> 00:53:31,376 AND HAVE BEGUN DRILLING. 1109 00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:40,611 Somerhalder: AFTER ALMOST A DECADE 1110 00:54:40,645 --> 00:54:43,914 LISTENING TO HIS DAUGHTER ARGUE THE CASE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE, 1111 00:54:43,948 --> 00:54:46,917 PASTOR RICK JOYNER STILL ISN'T FULLY CONVINCED. 1112 00:54:46,951 --> 00:54:50,721 BUT HE HAS GAINED ENOUGH RESPECT FOR ANNA JANE 1113 00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:54,725 TO LET HER SPEAK DIRECTLY TO HIS CONGREGATION 1114 00:54:54,759 --> 00:54:57,695 AND LET THEM DECIDE. 1115 00:54:57,728 --> 00:54:59,096 [ INDISTINCT CHATTER ] 1116 00:54:59,129 --> 00:55:01,332 Anna Jane: THESE PEOPLE ON THE FAR RIGHT 1117 00:55:01,366 --> 00:55:04,001 ARE INCREDIBLY INFLUENTIAL IN A LOT OF CASES, 1118 00:55:04,034 --> 00:55:05,703 AND IF YOU CAN MOVE A COUPLE OF THEM, 1119 00:55:05,736 --> 00:55:07,472 YOU CAN REALLY CHANGE THE GAME. 1120 00:55:07,505 --> 00:55:11,476 Rick: HIS LOVE MAKES US WHOLE. 1121 00:55:11,509 --> 00:55:13,778 THIS IS A HEALING CONFERENCE. 1122 00:55:13,811 --> 00:55:15,980 YOU GETTING HEALED? 1123 00:55:16,013 --> 00:55:18,416 YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF LEVELS OF HEALING. 1124 00:55:18,449 --> 00:55:20,618 THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF HEALING. 1125 00:55:20,651 --> 00:55:23,854 AND TONIGHT, MY DAUGHTER'S GONNA START TALKING ABOUT -- 1126 00:55:23,888 --> 00:55:27,358 A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT ABOUT HEALING THE LAND. 1127 00:55:27,392 --> 00:55:29,960 AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT BIBLICAL NARRATIVES 1128 00:55:29,994 --> 00:55:31,362 THAT I CAME ACROSS 1129 00:55:31,396 --> 00:55:32,763 THAT SPEAK TO CARING FOR THE EARTH. 1130 00:55:32,797 --> 00:55:35,032 1 CORINTHIANS 1:26 SAID, 1131 00:55:35,065 --> 00:55:37,902 "FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S AND THE FULLNESS THEREOF." 1132 00:55:37,935 --> 00:55:40,505 LEVITICUS SAYS, "THE LAND IS MINE, 1133 00:55:40,538 --> 00:55:42,907 AND YOU ARE BUT MY ALIENS AND MY TENANTS." 1134 00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:45,876 CLIMATE DISRUPTION IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. 1135 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:49,380 IT'S A MORAL ISSUE. IT'S A JUSTICE ISSUE. 1136 00:55:49,414 --> 00:55:52,517 EVEN MORE THAN THAT, IT'S A SPIRITUAL ISSUE. 1137 00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:55,486 AND IF AND WHEN CHRISTIANS DO ENGAGE, 1138 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,888 THERE WILL BE A GREAT DEAL OF HEALING -- 1139 00:55:57,922 --> 00:55:59,990 NOT JUST OF THE LAND, 1140 00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:02,527 BUT OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE LAND, 1141 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,530 WITH EACH OTHER, AND WITH GOD. 1142 00:56:05,563 --> 00:56:10,501 I ASK YOU PEOPLE OF GOD, PLEASE DON'T SIT THIS ONE OUT. 1143 00:56:10,535 --> 00:56:12,937 WHO BETTER TO LEAD THIS THAN CHRISTIANS -- 1144 00:56:12,970 --> 00:56:16,474 BELIEVERS IN THE GREAT HOPE, BELIEVERS IN RESURRECTION, 1145 00:56:16,507 --> 00:56:20,177 BELIEVERS IN SALVATION, EVEN AGAINST ALL ODDS? 1146 00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,780 THANK YOU. 1147 00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:25,115 [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] 89492

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