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Somerhalder:
ALL RIGHT.
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SCRIPT? CHECK.
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STIMULANT? CHECK.
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I PLAY A VAMPIRE IN A TV SHOW
THAT SHOOTS HERE IN ATLANTA,
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AND I WAS BORN IN LOUISIANA,
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SO THE SOUTH HAS A BIG PLACE
IN MY HEART.
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THE GULF COAST, WHERE I GREW UP,
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IS SEEING MASSIVE CHANGES
BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING.
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BUT IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY,
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CLIMATE CHANGE
IS BARELY ON THE RADAR,
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AND MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE ONE OF
THE MOST POWERFUL GROUPS HERE --
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EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS --
ISN'T ON BOARD.
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BUT PEOPLE LIKE ANNA JANE JOYNER
ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
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ANNA JANE IS PART OF A GROWING
MOVEMENT CALLED "CREATION CARE."
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IT'S LED BY YOUNG EVANGELICALS
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WHO BELIEVE THAT GOD
CREATED THE PLANET,
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BUT IT'S UP TO US TO PROTECT IT.
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WE AREN'T THE OWNERS
OF THIS WORLD.
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WE ARE TENANTS.
WE ARE STEWARDS.
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AND SO IF YOU BELIEVE
THAT GOD CREATED THIS PLANET,
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THEN YOU SHOULD
TAKE CARE OF IT.
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AND FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS,
MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SECURED.
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YEAH. EXACTLY.
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SO, IT'S THIS
KIND OF GROWING MOVEMENT
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WITHIN CHRISTIANITY.
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Somerhalder:
ANNA JANE IS ON A MISSION
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TO RALLY OTHER EVANGELICALS
TO THE CAUSE,
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INCLUDING MEGACHURCHES
LIKE THIS ONE.
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[ SINGING CONTINUES ]
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[ APPLAUSE ]
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AND SHE'S FOUND THAT THE KEY
TO WINNING OVER A CONGREGATION
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IS OFTEN THE PASTOR.
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IT'S WITH THE HEART
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MAN BELIEVES THAT IT RESULTS
IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
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NOT JUST THE HEAD,
BUT WITH THE HEART.
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IT'S WHO WE ARE.
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Somerhalder:
RICK JOYNER IS THE HEAD
OF MorningStar MINISTRIES,
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ONE OF THE MOST
SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE
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CHURCHES IN THE STATE.
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HE'S A COMPLETE SKEPTIC
WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
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FOR ANNA JANE,
GETTING HIM TO CHANGE HIS MIND
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WILL BE A UNIQUE CHALLENGE,
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BECAUSE HE ALSO HAPPENS
TO BE HER FATHER.
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ISN'T THAT
AN ENCOURAGING THOUGHT?
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE.
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HI. SORRY.
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I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME
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AS A CORRESPONDENT
FOR "60 MINUTES"
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INVESTIGATING CORPORATE SCANDALS
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OR CHASING DOWN
THE LATEST POLITICAL SCOOP.
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LESLEY STAHL.
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BUT IN THE FAST-PACED WORLD
OF TV NEWS,
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SOMETHING LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE
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THAT HAPPENS OVER DECADES
RATHER THAN HOURS,
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CAN TAKE A BACK SEAT.
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BUT WE'RE NOW BEING TOLD
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THAT WHAT WE USED TO THINK
WAS SO FAR OFF
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MAY ACTUALLY
BE IN THE HERE AND NOW.
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AND THAT MAKES ME WONDER
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WHAT THE WORLD WILL BE LIKE
FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN.
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I'VE HEARD PLENTY ABOUT MELTING
GLACIERS AND RISING SEAS,
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BUT I'M QUICKLY LEARNING
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THAT I DON'T KNOW
THE HALF OF IT.
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THE SCIENTISTS HERE
ARE TELLING ME
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LOTS OF THINGS THAT SCARE ME.
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THANKS.
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AND IT TURNS OUT THAT ONE
OF THE SCARIEST THINGS OF ALL
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IS WHAT'S UNDERNEATH
ALL THE MELTING ICE.
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Woman: THIS REPORT CONSTITUTES
AN ALARM-CLOCK MOMENT
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FOR THE WORLD,
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BECAUSE THIS REPORT
WILL TELL US, AGAIN,
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THAT EVERYTHING WE THOUGHT
WE KNEW ON CLIMATE CHANGE
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HAS ACTUALLY BEEN
UNDERESTIMATED,
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THAT THE EFFECTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL BE UPON US
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FASTER AND IN A MORE INTENSE
FASHION THAN WE HAD THOUGHT.
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President H.W. Bush: WE ALL KNOW
THAT HUMAN ACTIVITIES
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ARE CHANGING THE ATMOSPHERE
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IN UNEXPECTED
AND IN UNPRECEDENTED WAYS.
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Man: ...THAT THE GREENHOUSE
EFFECT HAS BEEN DETECTED,
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AND IT IS CHANGING
OUR CLIMATE NOW.
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Man #2: THE ATMOSPHERE AND OCEAN
HAVE WARMED.
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THE AMOUNT OF SNOW AND ICE
HAVE DIMINISHED.
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SEA LEVEL HAS RISEN,
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AND THE CONCENTRATIONS
OF GREENHOUSE GASES HAVE...
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Schwarzenegger:
THERE IS NO MORE FIRE SEASON.
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WE HAVE WILDFIRES
ALL YEAR ROUND.
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Man #3: CLIMATE CHANGE,
EXTREME WEATHER...
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AND OUR VULNERABILITY TO IT.
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Man #5:
...WHERE 12 YEARS OF DROUGHT HAS
LEFT THE LANDSCAPE BONE-DRY.
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Man #6: WE GOT ANY PATRIOTS
IN THE CROWD?!
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Woman #2: A NEW SCIENTIFIC
REPORT HAS DETERMINED
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THE LAST DECADE WAS THE WARMEST
ON RECORD.
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Man #7:
OUR WORLD IS CHANGING FASTER
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AND MORE DRAMATICALLY
THAN EVER BEFORE.
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[ Ringing ]
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Somerhalder:
ANNA JANE JOYNER
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IS PART OF A NEW GENERATION
OF EVANGELICALS
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WHO ARE TRYING TO CHANGE
THE CLIMATE DEBATE.
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WOMAN: Thanks for calling
King of Glory...
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SHE SEES NO CONFLICT
BETWEEN HER FAITH
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AND THE SCIENCE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
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...COMING TOGETHER TO HELP
PROTECT GOD'S CREATION.
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IN FACT, SHE THINKS CHURCHES
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HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY
TO TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.
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WHY WOULD YOU SAY EVANGELICALS,
PARTICULARLY IN THIS COUNTRY,
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HAVE BEEN SO SKEPTICAL
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE?
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WELL, I THINK
THERE'S A GENERAL SKEPTICISM
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AROUND SCIENCE OFTEN.
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YOU KNOW, MOST EVANGELICALS,
OR MANY EVANGELICALS,
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DON'T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION.
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FOR ME,
IT'S MORE OF A PERSONAL --
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LIKE, HERE IS THIS COMMUNITY
THAT RAISED ME,
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AND I WANT TO BELIEVE
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THAT THEY CAN BE ON THE RIGHT
SIDE OF HISTORY ON THIS ONE.
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YOU KNOW, EVANGELICALS
HAVE THE MOST POLITICAL POWER.
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THEY'RE HUGE,
A HUGE POLITICAL BASE.
HUGE.
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SO LET'S GO
FOR THE EVANGELICALS,
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AND ONCE WE CAN MOBILIZE THEM,
THEN IT'S THIS HUGE SHIFT.
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AND SHE WANTS TO MOBILIZE THEM
FOR A SPECIFIC CAUSE.
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ANNA JANE IS PART
OF A MAJOR EFFORT
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BY THE SIERRA CLUB CALLED
BEYOND COAL,
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TO SHUT DOWN THE COAL PLANT
HERE IN ASHEVILLE,
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ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF OTHERS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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WHY DOES THIS MATTER?
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TO FIND OUT,
I MEET WITH MARY ANNE HITT,
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THE NATIONAL DIRECTOR
OF THE CAMPAIGN.
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SHE TELLS ME THAT COAL
IS THE BIGGEST SOURCE
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OF CO2 EMISSIONS ON THE PLANET,
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INCLUDING 30% OF THE EMISSIONS
IN THE U.S. ALONE.
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SO, THE AMOUNT OF CARBON
COMING OUT OF THIS THING
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IS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT --
WHAT IS IT?
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A HALF A MILLION CARS
EVERY YEAR.
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Somerhalder: EXPLAIN,
IF YOU WILL, YOUR PROGRESS,
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COMING FROM THE BEGINNING
TO NOW AND TO THE END GOAL.
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THERE ARE ABOUT 500 COAL PLANTS
IN THE COUNTRY.
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WE HAVE 1 RETIREMENT
OF 149 COAL PLANTS
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JUST SINCE 2010.
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AND OUR GOAL, BY 2015,
IN FIVE YEARS, IS --
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WE WANT TO WIN THE RETIREMENT
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OF A THIRD OF THE COAL PLANTS
IN AMERICA.
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AND WE ARE
GOING TO GET THERE.
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SO, THE ONE THING
I KEEP HEARING
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IS THAT SWITCHING OVER
TO RENEWABLES --
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AREN'T THESE ELECTRIC BILLS
GONNA SKYROCKET?
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NEW, CLEAN ENERGY
THAT'S COMING ONLINE
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IS ACTUALLY,
IN SOME PLACES,
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CHEAPER THAN EXISTING
COAL PLANTS, LIKE THIS ONE.
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WHERE WOULD THAT BE?
MONTANA.
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RECENTLY, A NEW WIND FARM
CAME ONLINE,
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AND IT IS CHEAPER
THAN THE EXISTING COAL PLANT --
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THE COLSTRIP PLANT
IN MONTANA.
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SO, WE ARE
IN A WHOLE NEW ERA
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IN HOW WE MAKE ENERGY
IN AMERICA.
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THE PATH
TO A CLEAN-ENERGY FUTURE...
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BEYOND COAL
IS ONE OF THE MOST AMBITIOUS
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AND SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS OUT THERE
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TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE.
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BUT IN SOME PLACES IN THE SOUTH,
THEY'RE MEETING RESISTANCE,
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AND THAT'S WHERE
ANNA JANE COMES IN.
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MARY ANNE HAS ASKED HER
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TO LINE UP SUPPORT
FROM LOCAL PASTORS.
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YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE
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SEVERAL PASTORS IN TOWN
WHO HAVE SIGNED ON,
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AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN REALLY BEGUN
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TO GET IT OUT THERE
TO OUR DIFFERENT FAITH LEADERS.
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SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THERE.
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WE'RE AT THE TABLE.
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Hitt: THAT'S GREAT WORK.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
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YOU KNOW,
THE SCIENCE IS IMPORTANT
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AND THE GRAPHS
AND THE CHARTS ARE IMPORTANT,
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BUT IF WE LEAVE OUT
THE MORAL ELEMENT,
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WE MISS THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE,
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AND I THINK
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS
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THAT WE NEED TO DO MOST
WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
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Somerhalder:
ANNA JANE SPENDS HER DAYS
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MAKING THE ROUNDS
AT LOCAL CHURCHES,
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TRYING TO GET
EVEN MORE CHRISTIANS ON BOARD
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FOR AN UPCOMING
BEYOND COAL RALLY.
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[ CAR DOOR CLOSES ]
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Anna Jane:
IT'S SOMETHING I THINK
THAT THE FAITH COMMUNITY,
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WERE THEY TO GET MOBILIZED
AROUND THIS ISSUE,
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COULD BRING A REALLY
PROPHETIC VOICE TO YOU.
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I CAME ACROSS A WEALTH
OF INFORMATION
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ABOUT HOW CHRISTIANS
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ARE NOT ONLY CALLED
TO CARE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT,
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BUT INSTRUCTED
TO STEWARD THE LAND.
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Somerhalder:
IN THE PROCESS,
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SHE CAN'T HELP
BUT THINK OF HER FATHER.
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MY DAD COULD TELL YOU
THE VERSE.
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I CAN'T.
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BUT IT SAYS,
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"GOD WILL DESTROY
THOSE WHO DESTROY THE EARTH."
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AND JUST LIKE HER FATHER,
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SOME PASTORS
SEEM IMPOSSIBLE TO CONVINCE.
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YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT
I'M GOING DOWN A WRONG PATH.
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YOU THINK
I'M GOING DOWN A WRONG PATH.
SURE.
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LET'S UNDERSTAND --
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YOU CAME IN HERE WITH
THE ASSUMPTION THAT I'M WRONG,
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THAT I'M AN OLD GUY WHO DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT,
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AND THAT I'M WRONG.
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I THINK YOU'RE WRONG.
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I GET YOUR WORLD VIEW
SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT
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24 HOURS A DAY.
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VERY FEW CHRISTIANS REALLY
BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION.
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WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN
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IS A DOCTRINE
OF THE RESURRECTION.
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Somerhalder: ANNA JANE
HAS BEEN FIGHTING WITH HER DAD
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ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE FOR YEARS,
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AND FINALLY WINNING HIM OVER
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WOULD MEAN
A LOT TO HER PERSONALLY.
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BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE ONE
OF THE BIGGEST THINGS
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SHE COULD DO FOR THE CAUSE.
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THAT'S BECAUSE RICK JOYNER
ISN'T JUST ANY PASTOR.
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HE'S THE HEAD
OF AN EVANGELICAL EMPIRE.
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HIS 50-ACRE COMPOUND
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WAS PREVIOUSLY OWNED
BY JIM AND TAMMY FAYE BAKKER...
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* THIS IS YOUR HERITAGE
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...WHOSE TV SHOW,
"THE PTL CLUB,"
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ONCE HAD AN AUDIENCE
OF OVER 600,000.
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BUT THE BIBLE SAYS,
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"GREATER IS HE
THAT'S IN YOU
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THAN HE
THAT'S IN THE WORLD.
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AND THE DEVIL...
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NOW RICK HAS TURNED IT
INTO THE HEADQUARTERS
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OF A GLOBAL MINISTRY
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WITH 200 CHURCHES
IN 40 COUNTRIES.
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HOW MANY OF THESE
HAVE YOU WRITTEN?
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Rick: OVER 50.
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THIS ONE,
I'VE GOT A MOVIE --
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WELL,
I HAD A MOVIE DEAL ON IT.
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THIS IS AMAZING.
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I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE A --
IT'S LIKE A WHOLE CITY IN HERE.
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Rick: YEAH.
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WE HAVE A SCHOOL HERE --
MorningStar UNIVERSITY.
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AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW,
OTHER CHURCHES AND...
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POLITICALLY,
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RICK IS ABOUT AS FAR
TO THE RIGHT AS THEY COME
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ON A RANGE OF ISSUES.
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Man:
PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVES
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ON CURRENT EVENTS
WITH RICK JOYNER.
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I'M LEANING TOWARDS BELIEVING
THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
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IT WASN'T STOLEN FROM ROMNEY.
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IT WAS STOLEN
FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
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THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN,
SO UNDERMINED RIGHT NOW --
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THE WHOLE SYSTEM --
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I BELIEVE OUR ONLY HOPE
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IS A MILITARY TAKEOVER,
MARTIAL LAW.
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Somerhalder:
SO FAR, ANNA JANE HASN'T BEEN
ABLE TO GET HER DAD TO BUDGE.
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BUT NOW, SHE'S PLANNING
TO CALL IN SOME HELP.
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SO, WE ARE LEAVING FROM HERE,
UUMMANNAQ.
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MM-HMM.
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Stahl: I CAME TO GREENLAND TO
MEET GLACIOLOGIST MARCO TEDESCO.
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WHEN IT COMES TO THE EFFECT
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CLIMATE CHANGE
IS HAVING ON THE ARCTIC,
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HE SAYS, "WHAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW
IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG,
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"AND THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY
APPRECIATE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE
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IS TO SEE IT."
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THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MELTING
NOW GOING ON HERE.
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IT'S REALLY
UP TO THE PILOT
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TO DECIDE THE SAFETY LEVEL
OF OUR LANDING.
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MM-HMM.
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WE MIGHT WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL
WHEN WE WALK AROUND.
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WE D WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL
WHEN WE WALK AROUND.
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ALSO BECAUSE ON THE ICE,
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YOU KNOW, ANY LITTLE PROBLEM
CAN BECOME VERY BIG.
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Stahl: I'M SURPRISED
BY HOW BIG GREENLAND IS --
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MORE THAN THREE TIMES
THE SIZE OF TEXAS.
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MARCO TELLS ME THAT ABOUT 80%
OF IT IS COVERED IN ICE.
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MARCO IS ONE
OF A HANDFUL OF SCIENTISTS
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WHO SPEND WEEKS EVERY YEAR
LIVING ON THE ICE,
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TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW FAST IT'S DISAPPEARING.
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THE SETTING IS STUNNING,
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AND THE GLACIER IS FAR BIGGER
THAN I EVER IMAGINED.
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YOU CAN SEE THIS WALL OF ICE
ALL BROKEN DOWN.
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THE GLACIERS --
THEY LOSE MASS BY MELTING,
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SO AS THERE'S
MORE AND MORE WATER PRODUCED,
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IT GOES THROUGH THE ICE,
AND IT BREAKS THE ICE.
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YOU HAVE ALL THE WATER
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INTO THESE MULTIPLE MILLIONS
OF CRACKS YOU SEE THERE.
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THE CRACKS ARE GETTING BIGGER
AND BIGGER AND BIGGER.
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AND THEN THESE BLOCKS
ARE PRODUCED,
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AND THEY FLOW
TO THE OCEAN.
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AND THESE
ARE VERY POWERFUL EVENTS.
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BUT JUST LOOKING
DOESN'T GIVE YOU
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THE FULL EXPERIENCE
OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
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WHAT AM I SUPPOSED
TO BE LISTENING FOR?
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WELL,
YOU WILL LISTEN
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WHEN A GLACIER
IS PRODUCING THESE ICEBERGS.
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IT REALLY HAS THIS DEEP,
LOUD, LOW-TONE SOUND.
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LIKE A RUMBLE?
LIKE A RUMBLE.
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IT'S LIKE ICEQUAKES,
AS WE CALL THEM.
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ICEQUAKES?
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YEAH,
THERE ARE ICEQUAKES.
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SO, IF WE JUST STAND HERE,
WE'LL ACTUALLY HEAR SOMETHING.
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WE WILL.
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[ CRACKING, RUMBLING ]
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IT'S RIGHT
ON THE OTHER SIDE.
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OH, MY GOD.
THAT WAS HUGE.
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THERE'S SOMETHING BIG GOING ON
ON THE OTHER SIDE.
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[ CRACKING, RUMBLING CONTINUES ]
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[ CHUCKLES ]
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AND THEN MARCO TELLS ME
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WHY THESE ICEQUAKES
SCARE HIM SO MUCH.
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GREENLAND IS MELTING AT A PACE
THAT IS HARD TO FATHOM --
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5 TIMES FASTER
THAN IT WAS JUST 20 YEARS AGO.
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AND IN JUST ONE YEAR -- 2012 --
THE ICE THAT MELTED IN GREENLAND
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WAS EQUIVALENT TO NIAGARA FALLS
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RUNNING INTO THE OCEAN
FOR FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS,
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LEADING TO MORE AND MORE
SEA-LEVEL RISE.
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BUT IT'S NOT
JUST THESE GIANT CHUNKS OF ICE
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BREAKING OFF GLACIERS
THAT CONCERN MARCO.
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THERE'S ANOTHER CHANGE HERE
THAT'S EVEN MORE ALARMING.
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[ BIRDS CHIRPING ]
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Anna Jane:
I GREW UP IN THIS CHURCH.
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MY DAD STARTED IT
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WHEN I WAS AROUND --
I DON'T KNOW -- 6, 7, MAYBE.
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THEY STARTED IT
OUT OF THEIR HOME,
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AND IT QUICKLY GREW.
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I PROMISE TO HONOR GOD, NATURE,
AND OUR FAMILIES.
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THE HIGHEST PURPOSE OF MAN
IS TO LOVE GOD ABOVE ALL THINGS
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AND THEN TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
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[ APPLAUSE ]
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Somerhalder: BUT ANNA JANE FOUND
HER OWN PURPOSE IN COLLEGE.
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SHE WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF NORTH CAROLINA
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WHEN SHE STARTED LEARNING ABOUT
THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE
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AND DECIDED TO MAJOR
IN ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNICATIONS.
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AND I JUST CAME OUT
REALLY, LIKE, FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION,
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00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:58,545
ESSENTIALLY TOOK ON THIS WHOLE
NEW LIFE, IDENTITY, AND ROLE.
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AND IT WAS
VERY NOT COMFORTABLE
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OR FAMILIAR TO THE
EVANGELICAL-CHRISTIAN WORLD.
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RIGHT.
AND SO IT CREATED A LOT OF
TENSION BETWEEN ME AND MY DAD.
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HE ACTUALLY DID END UP
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KIND OF IN THE MIDST
OF THESE BIG ARGUMENTS,
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CUTTING OFF MY TUITION
FOR THAT SEMESTER.
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SO YOU'RE DONE.
YEAH.
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00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:18,731
WELL, I WAS HAVING
A MORAL STRUGGLE,
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FEELING LIKE
I'M INVESTING
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IN HAVING MY DAUGHTER'S MIND
CORRUPTED, YOU KNOW?
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00:18:25,572 --> 00:18:28,275
AND THAT'S THE WAY
I FELT WHAT WAS HAPPENING,
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BECAUSE IT WAS --
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FROM THE UNIVERSITY,
YOU MEAN.
YEAH.
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I THINK, "I CAN'T PAY TO HAVE
THIS DONE TO MY DAUGHTER."
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HEY, DADDY.
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Rick: HEY.
YOU HUNGRY?
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Somerhalder: AFTER NOT SPEAKING
FOR SIX MONTHS,
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ANNA JANE AND HER FATHER
RECONCILED.
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LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU.
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Somerhalder:
BUT THEY NEVER
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REALLY SETTLED
THEIR CLIMATE DEBATE.
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Rick:
I UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE,
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00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:56,169
AND I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN
CONVINCED BY THE SCIENCE.
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00:18:56,203 --> 00:18:57,470
I'M OPEN TO IT.
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I'M NOT TOTALLY UNCONVINCED,
EITHER,
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00:18:59,206 --> 00:19:02,542
BUT I SEE, YOU KNOW,
SOME THINGS THAT DON'T ADD UP
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AND SOME THINGS THAT SEEM,
TO ME, TO BE QUITE EXAGGERATED.
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00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,750
ALL RIGHT.
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00:19:18,625 --> 00:19:21,628
BUT SINCE HER DAD
WON'T LISTEN TO HER,
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ANNA JANE IS DETERMINED
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TO FIND SOMEONE
THAT RICK WILL LISTEN TO,
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SOMEONE WHO SHARES HIS RELIGIOUS
AND POLITICAL VIEWS,
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00:19:29,902 --> 00:19:33,306
BUT WHO ALSO ACCEPTS
THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.
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00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,484
BOB INGLIS, A FORMER REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA,
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REPRESENTED ONE OF THE NATION'S
MOST CONSERVATIVE DISTRICTS
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FOR SIX TERMS.
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ONCE A CLIMATE-CHANGE SKEPTIC,
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INGLIS NOW MAKES IT HIS MISSION
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TO TEACH FELLOW REPUBLICANS
AND FELLOW CHRISTIANS...
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00:19:56,996 --> 00:19:58,698
HELLO.
HEY.
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00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:02,435
...ABOUT THE DANGERS
OF HUMAN-CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING.
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00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:05,638
Inglis: FROM THE PERSPECTIVE
OF PEOPLE OF FAITH,
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00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:07,307
THERE IS A CONTEST HERE --
RIGHT? --
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00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,008
BETWEEN FAITH AND SCIENCE.
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00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:13,313
MY VIEW IS THAT GOD WANTS US
TO DISCOVER
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THE WAY THAT HE CREATED.
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00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:17,850
HE WANTS US TO DISCOVER
THE INTRICACIES.
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00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:19,652
HE SAYS, "COME ON,
I'LL SHOW YOU."
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00:20:19,686 --> 00:20:21,954
BUT I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE
OF FAITH DON'T THINK THAT.
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00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:23,656
THEY THINK, "NO, NO.
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00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:26,259
THAT'S TO INVADE THE PROVINCE
OF GOD TO GO THERE."
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00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:28,895
AND SO, WITH CLIMATE CHANGE,
WHAT THEY THINK --
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WHAT SOME PEOPLE THINK
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IS THAT IT'S ARROGANT
OF HUMANKIND
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TO SAY THAT WE CAN AFFECT
THE LONGEVITY OF THE EARTH...
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00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:37,604
OKAY.
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00:20:37,637 --> 00:20:40,740
...BECAUSE TO DO SO IS TO INVADE
THE PROVINCE OF GOD.
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00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:44,911
GETTING TO THIS SEAT RIGHT NOW
AROUND THIS TABLE,
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00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:47,680
WHERE ARE YOU
ON CLIMATE CHANGE?
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00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:49,449
I MEAN,
I'M REALLY NOT TRYING
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00:20:49,482 --> 00:20:52,051
TO PROVE CLIMATE CHANGE
OR DISPROVE IT.
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00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,486
RIGHT.
I WANT TO GO AT IT.
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00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,754
I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
393
00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:56,656
HOW DO YOU FIND
WHAT THE TRUTH IS
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00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:58,791
IF YOU CAN, ON THE WEB,
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00:20:58,825 --> 00:21:02,529
FIND A SERIES OF THINGS
THAT SUPPORT DOUBT
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00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:04,564
AND, IN FACT,
INCREASE DOUBT
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00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:07,300
OR YOU CAN GO
A DIFFERENT SERIES OF STEPS
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00:21:07,334 --> 00:21:11,404
AND FIND INCREASING RELIANCE
ON THE SCIENCE?
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00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,841
I TRY TO READ BOTH SIDES
WHENEVER.
400
00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,843
I TRY TO READ
THE PROS AND THE CONS.
401
00:21:16,876 --> 00:21:19,379
THE ONES THAT WERE PRO,
402
00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:22,048
THE STUDIES WERE, I THOUGHT,
REALLY SUPERFICIAL.
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00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:24,417
I THOUGHT, "WHAT DO THEY THINK?
WE'RE IDIOTS?"
404
00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:26,986
BOB INGLIS HAS HAD SOME SUCCESS
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00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:29,789
BRINGING OTHER CONSERVATIVES
AROUND ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
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00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:33,426
BUT I'M NOT SO SURE
IT'S WORKING WITH PASTOR RICK.
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00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:34,927
HOW IS IT
WATCHING YOUR DAUGHTER,
408
00:21:34,961 --> 00:21:38,565
WHO'S ULTIMATELY DEVOTED
HER LIFE TO THIS --
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00:21:38,598 --> 00:21:42,402
I MEAN,
HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOU?
410
00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:45,605
WELL, IT HAS
AN EMOTIONAL IMPACT, NO DOUBT.
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00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:46,873
I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE
FOR HER SAKE.
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00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:48,975
I'M DOING THIS
FOR HER SAKE.
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00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:52,879
YOU KNOW, BUT I STILL HAVE
TO HAVE A DEVOTION TO TRUTH
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00:21:52,912 --> 00:21:56,749
OR I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING
FOR HER SAKE.
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00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:02,121
I GUESS I SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED
THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE
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00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,857
MORE THAN ONE CONVERSATION
WITH A FELLOW CHRISTIAN
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00:22:04,891 --> 00:22:06,993
TO CHANGE RICK'S MIND,
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00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:09,429
BUT IT FEELS LIKE A START.
419
00:22:22,575 --> 00:22:25,912
AND NOW,
ANNA JANE HAS ANOTHER IDEA.
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00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,515
MAYBE IT WOULD HELP
IF HER DAD COULD SEE
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00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:32,351
THE EFFECTS OF GLOBAL WARMING
WITH HIS OWN EYES.
422
00:22:36,055 --> 00:22:39,426
SO SHE'S TAKING HIM
TO THE GULF COAST,
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00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:42,995
WHERE AN ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE
IS THREATENED,
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00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:45,665
PARTLY BECAUSE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
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00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:48,901
Rick: I LOVE THE GULF.
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00:22:48,935 --> 00:22:52,104
HAVING SPENT
SO MANY SUMMERS DOWN THERE,
427
00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:56,643
TO ME, IT'S LIKE ANOTHER HOME.
428
00:23:06,453 --> 00:23:09,522
Somerhalder: FOR ANNA JANE,
THE TRIP HAS TO BE A SUCCESS.
429
00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:12,124
THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER.
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00:23:12,158 --> 00:23:14,060
Anna Jane:
I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATE.
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00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:15,928
I FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
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00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:19,866
I THINK IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUE OF OUR TIME.
433
00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:21,534
THIS IS MY JOB.
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00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:24,537
IF I CAN'T CONVINCE MY DAD
THAT THAT'S THE CASE,
435
00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:27,406
THEN THAT'S
A VERY PERSONAL FAILURE.
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00:23:33,045 --> 00:23:34,647
Stahl: WOW!
Tedesco: WELCOME.
437
00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:36,082
THIS IS A LAKE?
438
00:23:36,115 --> 00:23:37,817
YEAH.
THIS IS A LAKE.
439
00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:40,520
I CAN'T GET OVER IT.
440
00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:42,121
YOU CAN SEE
WE ARE REALLY IN A BASIN,
441
00:23:42,154 --> 00:23:44,090
AND ALL THE WATER STARTS
COLLECTING HERE.
442
00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:46,626
AND YOU CAN SEE, REALLY,
THESE CRACKS HERE.
443
00:23:46,659 --> 00:23:48,127
YOU MEAN UNDERNEATH?
444
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,696
YOU CAN SEE DEFINITELY.
445
00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:51,130
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING
446
00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:53,700
IS THAT THE WATER HAS BEEN
FLUSHING AWAY THE SNOW.
447
00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:56,836
THE NUMBER OF LAKES
IS ACTUALLY INCREASING.
448
00:23:56,869 --> 00:23:58,137
SO, THE MORE LAKES
449
00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:00,940
MEANS
THE MORE BLUE MATERIAL,
450
00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:04,076
AND THE DARKER
THE ICE SHEET BECOMES,
451
00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:08,080
YOU REALLY CHANGE THE WAY
THE SUN IS DRIVING THE CLIMATE.
452
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,783
THE GLACIER
IS VERY BRIGHT.
453
00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:12,619
ICE IS VERY BRIGHT.
454
00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:14,887
WHEN YOU REPLACE
A BRIGHT SURFACE LIKE THIS
455
00:24:14,921 --> 00:24:17,123
WITH A DARK SURFACE
LIKE THAT,
456
00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:18,758
IT'S LIKE WEARING
A BLACK SHIRT
457
00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:20,226
VERSUS WEARING
A WHITE SHIRT.
458
00:24:20,259 --> 00:24:24,030
MM-HMM.
IT WARMS UP FASTER.
459
00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:27,233
Stahl: ONCE WE'RE BACK
IN THE HELICOPTER,
460
00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:29,969
I SEE THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS
OF THESE LAKES.
461
00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,238
I'M WITNESSING A VICIOUS CYCLE.
462
00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:34,507
THE LAKES CAUSE MORE WARMING,
463
00:24:34,541 --> 00:24:38,778
WHICH LEADS TO MORE LAKES
AND EVEN MORE WARMING.
464
00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:42,281
AND IT'S NOT JUST GLACIERS
ON LAND THAT ARE MELTING.
465
00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,785
SINCE 1980, AN ASTONISHING 40%
466
00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:47,920
OF THE SUMMER SEA ICE
IN THE ARCTIC
467
00:24:47,954 --> 00:24:52,592
HAS DISAPPEARED
AND BEEN REPLACED BY DARK OCEAN.
468
00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:54,527
OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS,
469
00:24:54,561 --> 00:24:58,097
ALL THESE NEW DARK SURFACES
HAVE CAUSED MORE WARMING
470
00:24:58,130 --> 00:25:00,066
THAN THE CARBON-DIOXIDE
EMISSIONS
471
00:25:00,099 --> 00:25:04,270
OF ALL THE CARS
ON THE ENTIRE PLANET.
472
00:25:04,303 --> 00:25:06,539
AND, REMEMBER,
THIS MELTING IS BEING DRIVEN
473
00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:10,543
BY THE COAL, OIL,
AND GAS WE'VE ALREADY BURNED.
474
00:25:10,577 --> 00:25:13,012
BUT, OF COURSE,
WE'RE BURNING MORE ALL THE TIME.
475
00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:17,850
BACK IN NEW YORK,
I LEARN OF A NEW REPORT
476
00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:21,287
ISSUED BY THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL
PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
477
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,989
FOR THE FIRST TIME,
478
00:25:23,022 --> 00:25:26,225
THIS GROUP OF TOP CLIMATE
SCIENTISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD
479
00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:28,160
IS DECLARING AN UPPER LIMIT
480
00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:30,930
ON THE AMOUNT OF FOSSIL FUELS
WE CAN BURN
481
00:25:30,963 --> 00:25:32,965
WITHOUT COURTING A CATASTROPHE.
482
00:25:36,135 --> 00:25:39,271
DR. HEIDI CULLEN IS ONE
OF THE AUTHORS OF THE REPORT.
483
00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:41,340
NOW, IN THIS NEW REPORT,
484
00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:45,578
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MOST
IMPORTANT NEW STATEMENT IS?
485
00:25:45,612 --> 00:25:46,979
YEAH, I WOULD SAY
486
00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:49,181
THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT
NEW STATEMENT IN THIS REPORT
487
00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:52,585
WAS THE REDLINE THAT SCIENTISTS
DREW IN THE SAND.
488
00:25:52,619 --> 00:25:56,255
BASICALLY, WE CAN'T TOUCH
MORE THAN 30% OF OUR RESERVES,
489
00:25:56,288 --> 00:25:59,258
SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE
SOME OIL AND GAS ON THE TABLE
490
00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:02,194
IF WE ARE REALLY COMMITTED
TO PRESERVING, YOU KNOW,
491
00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:04,263
THE VITAL FUNCTIONS
OF OUR PLANET.
492
00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:06,966
SO, IN THE SAME WAY
THAT CIGARETTE SMOKING
493
00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:09,702
RAISES YOUR RISK
FOR LUNG CANCER,
494
00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:12,839
BURNING FOSSIL FUELS
RAISES THE RISK
495
00:26:12,872 --> 00:26:17,644
OF HARMING THE IMPORTANT
ORGANS OF OUR PLANET --
496
00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:19,879
OUR OCEAN, OUR ATMOSPHERE,
OUR ICE SHEETS.
497
00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:22,014
HEIDI TELLS ME
498
00:26:22,048 --> 00:26:26,152
IF WE WERE TO BURN ALL OUR
KNOWN RESERVES OF FOSSIL FUELS,
499
00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:30,222
HUMANS WOULD FIND LARGE PARTS OF
THE PLANET UNLIVABLE OUTDOORS.
500
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:35,695
SO, CLEARLY, WE HAVE TO STOP
FAR SHORT OF THAT.
501
00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:41,367
SHE SAYS IT'S ALL A QUESTION OF
HOW MUCH RISK WE WANT TO TAKE.
502
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,836
AND SCIENTISTS
AROUND THE WORLD AGREE
503
00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:47,273
THAT IF WE BURN MORE
THAN 30% OF OUR KNOWN RESERVES,
504
00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:50,076
THE RISK BECOMES UNACCEPTABLE.
505
00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,645
IF WE DON'T
DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY,
506
00:26:52,679 --> 00:26:55,047
WE'RE GONNA CROSS THAT MARK
BY 2040.
507
00:26:55,081 --> 00:26:57,183
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
MORE EXTREME-WEATHER EVENTS,
508
00:26:57,216 --> 00:26:59,652
MORE FLOODING, DROUGHTS,
HEAT WAVES,
509
00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:01,654
RISING SEA LEVELS,
510
00:27:01,688 --> 00:27:05,191
ALL OF THESE THINGS
THAT JUST REALLY UP OUR RISK.
511
00:27:05,224 --> 00:27:06,659
2040.
512
00:27:06,693 --> 00:27:07,827
2040.
513
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:09,428
I'LL STILL BE HERE,
HOPEFULLY.
514
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:11,964
[ LAUGHS ]
I MIGHT NOT,
BUT MY CHILDREN WILL BE.
515
00:27:11,998 --> 00:27:13,666
MY GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE.
516
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:19,071
WE'VE HEARD THESE CLARION CALLS
FOR A LONG TIME, ACTUALLY.
517
00:27:19,105 --> 00:27:22,241
NOW YOU AND I MIGHT BELIEVE IT,
BUT GO OUT IN THE STREET...
518
00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:23,910
YOU KNOW,
THE JOB OF THE SCIENTIST
519
00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:27,013
IS REALLY TO, YOU KNOW,
HOLD UP A DANGER SIGN
520
00:27:27,046 --> 00:27:29,949
AND SAY, "LOOK,
BURNING FOSSIL FUELS --
521
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,084
"WHILE THERE'S MANY
GREAT THINGS ABOUT IT,
522
00:27:32,118 --> 00:27:35,221
IT HAS THESE UNFORTUNATE,
LONG-TERM RISKS."
523
00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,723
AS SCIENTISTS,
WE CAN'T TELL
524
00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:38,424
OIL COMPANIES WHAT TO DO
OR WHAT NOT TO DO,
525
00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:39,959
BUT WE CAN SAY THAT,
"YOU KNOW WHAT?
526
00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,895
"IT IS TREMENDOUSLY RISKY
527
00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:47,066
"TO GO AFTER ALL OF THAT OIL
AND NATURAL GAS.
528
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,401
"IF WE WILLINGLY CHOOSE
TO CROSS THAT LINE,
529
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:52,705
THEN DON'T SAY
THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WARNED."
530
00:27:52,739 --> 00:27:55,241
AND THEN THERE'S A FINAL TWIST,
531
00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:58,811
ONE THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF
A CLIMATE SCIENTIST'S NIGHTMARE.
532
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,947
AS THE ICE MELTS IN THE ARCTIC,
533
00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:04,016
ENTIRELY NEW DEPOSITS
OF OIL AND GAS
534
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:06,252
THAT WERE ONCE TRAPPED
UNDER THE ICE
535
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:09,421
ARE BECOMING ACCESSIBLE
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
536
00:28:09,455 --> 00:28:11,323
I'VE JUST LEARNED
THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD
537
00:28:11,357 --> 00:28:13,793
TO BURN THE FOSSIL-FUEL RESERVES
WE KNOW ABOUT,
538
00:28:13,826 --> 00:28:16,896
AND YET, ENERGY COMPANIES
ARE ON THE HUNT
539
00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:19,098
FOR EVEN MORE OF THE STUFF.
540
00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:20,867
IT REALLY IS
THE ULTIMATE IRONY.
541
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,903
AS WE BURN FOSSIL FUELS,
WE WARM THE PLANET.
542
00:28:23,936 --> 00:28:26,505
THE WARMING MELTS
THE ICE,
543
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,108
AND THAT JUST MAKES
ALL OF THESE NATURAL RESOURCES
544
00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:33,012
MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FOSSIL-FUEL
COMPANIES TO EXTRACT,
545
00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:35,181
WHICH THEN FURTHER WARMS
THE PLANET.
546
00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:38,384
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY
LOCKED IN THIS VICIOUS CYCLE.
547
00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:04,176
Somerhalder:
APALACHICOLA HAS LONG BEEN
THE OYSTER CAPITAL OF FLORIDA.
548
00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:06,813
NOT LONG AGO,
THIS ONE BAY PRODUCED
549
00:29:06,846 --> 00:29:09,748
10% OF ALL THE OYSTERS
IN THE UNITED STATES.
550
00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:14,020
BUT IN THE LAST YEAR,
551
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:17,223
OYSTER REVENUES ARE DOWN
BY ALMOST HALF.
552
00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:20,459
IT'S GOTTEN SO BAD THAT
THE U.S. SECRETARY OF COMMERCE
553
00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:24,163
OFFICIALLY DECLARED
A DISASTER IN THE REGION.
554
00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:27,967
YOU'RE NOT DOING
FOR WHAT ONE PEOPLE...
555
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,102
TO HELP EXPLAIN
WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE,
556
00:29:30,136 --> 00:29:32,238
ANNA JANE ASKED
KATHARINE HAYHOE,
557
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:34,406
ONE OF THE WORLD'S
LEADING CLIMATE SCIENTISTS,
558
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,942
TO JOIN HER AND RICK.
559
00:29:37,343 --> 00:29:38,577
HEY.
HI!
560
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,147
HI. I'M ANNA JANE.
NICE TO MEET YOU.
561
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,481
HEY. I'M RICK.
KATHARINE.
562
00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,350
GOOD TO MEET YOU.
YOU, TOO.
563
00:29:44,383 --> 00:29:46,285
Somerhalder:
KATHARINE ISN'T JUST
A CLIMATE SCIENTIST.
564
00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:48,420
SHE'S ALSO A DEVOUT EVANGELICAL,
565
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,589
THE DAUGHTER
OF CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES,
566
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:52,258
AND SHE'S MARRIED
567
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:54,293
TO A CONSERVATIVE
EVANGELICAL PREACHER.
568
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:57,496
AND THE FUNNY THING IS
THAT WHEN WE FIRST GOT MARRIED,
569
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:59,966
IT WASN'T TILL AFTER
WE GOT MARRIED THAT WE REALIZED
570
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:01,600
THAT HE DIDN'T THINK
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL,
571
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,837
SO WE ACTUALLY SPENT
THE FIRST -- I DON'T KNOW --
572
00:30:04,871 --> 00:30:08,074
PROBABLY ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR
OR TWO OF BEING MARRIED
573
00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:10,142
ARGUING THROUGH
A LOT OF SCIENTIFIC ISSUES.
574
00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:18,117
THE WAY I THINK
OF SCIENCE IS --
575
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,886
I FEEL LIKE
I'M ACTUALLY STUDYING
576
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:21,854
WHAT GOD WAS THINKING
WHEN HE PUT THE EARTH TOGETHER.
577
00:30:21,888 --> 00:30:23,856
AND SO I FEEL
LIKE THERE IS TRUTH
578
00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:25,124
IN LOOKING AT CREATION.
579
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:27,126
WHEN I SEE
ALL THESE THINGS CHANGING,
580
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:29,929
WE HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HOW
THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE PAST,
581
00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:31,497
HOW IT'S GOTTEN WARMER
AND COOLER
582
00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:33,599
AND HOW WE'VE SEEN
DIFFERENT CYCLES IN THE PAST.
583
00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:35,234
AND THE THINGS
WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW
584
00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:37,403
DON'T FIT
ANY OF THOSE MOLDS.
585
00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:40,639
Somerhalder: FOR RICK, THIS IS
A CHANCE TO LEARN ABOUT SCIENCE
586
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:43,976
FROM SOMEONE
WHO SHARES HIS FAITH.
587
00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:45,277
WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE OBSERVATIONS,
588
00:30:45,311 --> 00:30:48,447
WHAT WE SEE IS THAT,
FIRST OF ALL,
589
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,150
THE EARTH'S TEMPERATURE GOES
UP AND DOWN ALL THE TIME.
590
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:52,952
IT GOES UP AND DOWN
FROM YEAR TO YEAR,
591
00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:54,420
AND IT GOES UP AND DOWN
OVER TIME.
592
00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:56,889
WHAT WE ALSO SEE, THOUGH,
IS, RIGHT NOW,
593
00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:58,490
IT'S GOING UP
VERY STEADILY
594
00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:00,292
OVER, YOU KNOW,
20 OR 30 YEARS.
595
00:31:00,326 --> 00:31:02,028
SO WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE PLANET RIGHT NOW,
596
00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:04,396
THE OCEAN IS WARMING,
THE ATMOSPHERE IS WARMING,
597
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,232
THE LAND SURFACE
IS WARMING.
598
00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:08,400
EVERY PART OF THE LAND
AND THE OCEAN,
599
00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:10,002
THE ATMOSPHERE IS WARMING.
600
00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:13,072
AND WE ALSO SEE
601
00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:15,507
THAT ALL
OF THE NATURAL REASONS
602
00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:18,577
WHY CLIMATE HAS CHANGED
IN THE PAST RIGHT NOW,
603
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:20,479
LIKE VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS,
THE SOLAR CYCLES,
604
00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:23,349
NATURAL CYCLES,
WOULD BE CAUSING US TO COOL.
605
00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,952
INSTEAD, WE'RE WARMING.
MM-HMM.
606
00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:28,487
SO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE BURNING
COAL GAS, AND OIL.
607
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,956
WE KNOW THAT.
608
00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:32,024
WE KNOW THAT IT PRODUCES
CARBON DIOXIDE.
609
00:31:32,058 --> 00:31:33,292
WE KNOW THAT THE CARBON
DIOXIDE IS BUILDING UP
IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
610
00:31:33,325 --> 00:31:35,928
WHEN WE ADD
EXTRA CARBON DIOXIDE,
611
00:31:35,962 --> 00:31:38,530
IT'S LIKE WRAPPING AN EXTRA
BLANKET AROUND THE EARTH.
612
00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:40,266
AND IT KEEPS THE EARTH WARM
613
00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:43,135
EXACTLY THE WAY A JACKET
OR A BLANKET KEEPS US WARM.
614
00:31:43,169 --> 00:31:45,537
IT REFLECTS OUR BODY HEAT
BACK TO US.
615
00:31:45,571 --> 00:31:47,173
SO THAT'S WHY WE KNOW
616
00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:50,409
IT'S US THAT IS DRIVING
CLIMATE CHANGE TODAY.
617
00:31:50,442 --> 00:31:53,179
IT'S BECAUSE WE SHOULD
BE GETTING COOLER RIGHT NOW,
618
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:56,148
AND WE'RE NOT.
619
00:31:56,182 --> 00:31:57,950
RICK DOESN'T LOOK CONVINCED,
620
00:31:57,984 --> 00:32:00,586
BUT IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS
FOR KATHARINE,
621
00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:03,289
HE'S NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO ASK.
622
00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:10,729
[ INSECTS CHIRPING ]
623
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,264
HI.
624
00:32:12,298 --> 00:32:14,100
Ken: HELLO. HOW YOU DOING?
HI. I'M ANNA JANE.
625
00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:15,567
PLEASURE.
626
00:32:15,601 --> 00:32:17,036
HEY, KEN.
627
00:32:17,069 --> 00:32:20,339
THE LAST HURRICANE,
IT BROKE OFF...
628
00:32:25,544 --> 00:32:27,113
AND YOU PUSH THE BOAT.
629
00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:28,981
AND THEN BEFORE THE BOAT
SWINGS BACK,
630
00:32:29,015 --> 00:32:31,017
SO I CAN COVER
AS MUCH GROUND AS POSSIBLE,
631
00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:33,152
I'LL GRAB MY FOOT
AND START FEELING THE BOTTOM,
632
00:32:33,185 --> 00:32:34,753
LOOKING FOR OYSTERS
AGAIN.
633
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,123
AND I THINK
I MIGHT GET ONE, MAYBE.
634
00:32:37,156 --> 00:32:38,624
[ LAUGHTER ]
635
00:32:38,657 --> 00:32:40,993
THIS IS WHY WE QUIT WORKING
THIS WINTER.
636
00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:45,097
Somerhalder: LONG-TIME OYSTERMEN
KEN FOLSOM AND HIS SON JOE
637
00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:47,499
ARE STRUGGLING TO HOLD ON
TO A DYING WAY OF LIFE.
638
00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:50,236
NOTHING.
NOTHING.
639
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:53,405
AND NOW,
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND,
640
00:32:53,439 --> 00:32:55,074
STATISTICALLY,
641
00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:57,276
THIS WAS
THE MOST PRODUCTIVE BAR
642
00:32:57,309 --> 00:32:59,611
IN THE ENTIRE WESTERN SIDE
OF THE BAY.
643
00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:01,547
THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY
DREAMED TO COME.
644
00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:03,282
THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY
OYSTERED.
645
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,117
I'VE OYSTERED
FOR 30 YEARS.
646
00:33:05,151 --> 00:33:06,752
I RAISED A FAMILY,
YOU KNOW?
647
00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,754
I MEAN, THE OYSTERS
WERE AS BIG AS MY FOOT.
648
00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,757
THE PROBLEM IS THE WATER.
649
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:14,693
APALACHICOLA IS RIGHT BETWEEN
THE GULF OF MEXICO,
650
00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,428
WHICH IS SALTWATER,
651
00:33:16,462 --> 00:33:19,231
AND A SERIES OF FRESHWATER
RIVERS AND LAKES.
652
00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:21,700
IT'S THE PERFECT HABITAT
FOR OYSTERS.
653
00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:23,535
BUT DROUGHTS
IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY
654
00:33:23,569 --> 00:33:25,137
HAVE BEEN GETTING MORE SEVERE,
655
00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:28,340
AND CLIMATE CHANGE
WILL MAKE THEM EVEN WORSE.
656
00:33:28,374 --> 00:33:32,311
THREE STRAIGHT YEARS OF DROUGHT
AND A RISE IN WATER USE UPSTREAM
657
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,580
HAVE DRASTICALLY REDUCED
THE FLOW OF FRESHWATER.
658
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:38,584
AS A RESULT, THE SALINITY
OF THE WATER IN APALACHICOLA BAY
659
00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:41,187
IS TOO HIGH,
AND, ON TOP OF THAT,
660
00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:43,522
CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSING
THE SEA LEVEL TO RISE,
661
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:46,425
WHICH WILL BRING IN
EVEN MORE SALTWATER.
662
00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,394
SO, OYSTERS NEED
THIS PERFECT MIX
663
00:33:48,427 --> 00:33:50,462
OF SALTWATER
AND FRESHWATER TO GROW.
664
00:33:50,496 --> 00:33:51,797
AND THEN,
IN RECENT YEARS THEN,
665
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,165
THE FRESHWATER'S
BEEN LESS AND LESS OF IT
666
00:33:53,199 --> 00:33:54,666
BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT
667
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,202
AND BECAUSE OF PEOPLE
NEEDING THE WATER UPSTREAM.
668
00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:57,536
RIGHT?
THAT'S CORRECT.
669
00:33:57,569 --> 00:33:59,138
I UNDERSTAND.
YEAH.
670
00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:01,140
AND THEN YOU GOT
SEA-LEVEL RISING.
671
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:03,209
AND THEN CLIMATE CHANGE
IS MESSING UP
672
00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:04,610
OUR RAINFALL PATTERNS,
TOO.
673
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,145
I'M SITTING HERE THINKING,
674
00:34:06,178 --> 00:34:08,414
"YEAH," BUT WE LIVE
RIGHT UP THE COAST HERE,
675
00:34:08,447 --> 00:34:11,283
AND I DON'T SEE
THE WATER RISING, YOU KNOW.
676
00:34:11,317 --> 00:34:12,551
WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT THERE.
677
00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:15,221
YOU KNOW,
THESE ARE DEFINITELY
678
00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:18,224
WORTHY CONSIDERATIONS
TO SEARCH OUT.
679
00:34:18,257 --> 00:34:20,092
"IS THIS THE CAUSE?"
MM-HMM.
680
00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:23,729
I MEAN, I'M VERY INTERESTED
TO HEAR SOMEBODY'S PERSPECTIVE
681
00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,865
WHO'S BEEN ON THE WATER
THIS LONG.
682
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:30,702
AND I THINK HE'S THE TYPE OF GUY
THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE HEARD.
683
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,239
YEAH.
I WOULD SAY SO.
684
00:34:33,272 --> 00:34:35,541
I'M AN EARLY WARNING
BECAUSE IT'S IMPACTING ME NOW.
685
00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:37,843
IT'S PROBABLY
GONNA IMPACT YOU TOMORROW.
686
00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:40,479
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE --
I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY IT,
687
00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:41,747
'CAUSE I'M NOT
A REALLY RELIGIOUS PERSON,
688
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,582
BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT SAID
IN THE BIBLE,
689
00:34:43,615 --> 00:34:46,252
WHERE ALL THE FISH
WOULD DIE IN THE OCEAN.
690
00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:47,553
YOU KNOW, IT'S HAPPENING.
691
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:50,489
THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST
PRISTINE BAYS LEFT
692
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:51,890
IN THE ENTIRE
UNITED STATES.
693
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:54,593
IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART
TO SEE IT BEING KILLED.
694
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:58,764
AND I FEEL SO POWERLESS
TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
695
00:35:11,843 --> 00:35:14,313
Stahl: THERE'S AN OIL RUSH
IN THE ARCTIC.
696
00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:15,747
AS THE ICE MELTS,
697
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:18,417
EVERY COUNTRY
WITH A STAKE IN THE REGION
698
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:20,352
WANTS IN ON THE GAME.
699
00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:27,293
RUSSIA, NORWAY, ICELAND, CANADA,
THE UNITED STATES, AND GREENLAND
700
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:28,694
ARE ALL BELIEVED TO BE SITTING
701
00:35:28,727 --> 00:35:31,763
ON A TREASURE TROVE
OF UNDISCOVERED OIL
702
00:35:31,797 --> 00:35:34,166
WORTH TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
703
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,268
AMERICA NEEDS OUR OIL.
704
00:35:36,302 --> 00:35:38,470
AND WHEN ALASKA'S STRONG
AND WHEN WE PRODUCE,
705
00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:39,838
IT HELPS KEEP
THE COUNTRY STRONG.
706
00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,174
WE SEND LESS MONEY OVERSEAS.
707
00:35:42,208 --> 00:35:45,844
Stahl: MEAD TREADWELL IS THE
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.
708
00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:49,315
HE SAYS DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC
IS AMERICA'S BEST OPPORTUNITY
709
00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:51,817
TO END ITS DEPENDENCE
ON FOREIGN OIL.
710
00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,419
BUT I WONDER IF HE THINKS
711
00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:56,188
ABOUT THE OTHER CONSEQUENCES
OF FOSSIL FUELS.
712
00:35:56,222 --> 00:35:59,958
SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
SCIENTISTS ARE WARNING
713
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:02,394
THAT WE HAVE TO STOP
THE DRILLING
714
00:36:02,428 --> 00:36:05,331
AND EXPLORING
FOR MORE OIL AND GAS.
715
00:36:05,364 --> 00:36:08,334
THEY'RE SAYING
THAT IT'S GONNA BE A CATASTROPHE
716
00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:09,601
FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
717
00:36:09,635 --> 00:36:11,903
WELL,
I GUESS I'D ASK YOU THIS.
718
00:36:11,937 --> 00:36:13,205
DO YOU DRIVE A CAR?
719
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,306
NOPE.
720
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:15,407
DO YOU EVER RIDE IN A CAR?
721
00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:16,708
[ Laughing ] YES.
722
00:36:16,742 --> 00:36:17,876
GOTCHA.
OF COURSE YOU DO.
723
00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:19,545
I MEAN, THE POINT IS --
724
00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:22,748
I GOT HERE IN A JET
THAT WAS FUELED BY FOSSIL FUEL.
725
00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:25,284
LET'S SAY YOU'RE RIGHT
726
00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:27,319
AND LET'S SAY
THEY'RE RIGHT, OKAY?
727
00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:28,720
THEN THE QUESTION IS --
728
00:36:28,754 --> 00:36:30,356
CAN YOU PUT THE TOOTHPASTE
BACK IN THE TUBE?
729
00:36:30,389 --> 00:36:34,626
NO, BUT WE CAN
NOT MAKE IT WORSE.
730
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:35,961
WE CAN TAKE STEPS
731
00:36:35,994 --> 00:36:37,929
TO NOT EXACERBATE
WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
732
00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:40,566
OKAY, SO,
YOU'RE GONNA QUIT FLYING.
733
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:41,800
YOU'RE GONNA QUIT DRIVING.
734
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,469
I MEAN, THE FACT IS
735
00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:46,405
THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING
FOSSIL FUELS FOR SOME TIME.
736
00:36:46,438 --> 00:36:49,508
I DON'T BELIEVE HOLDING
ALASKA ENERGY OFF THE MARKET
737
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:50,876
IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.
738
00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,678
CANADA, GREENLAND,
739
00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:55,914
FOR DENMARK, ICELAND,
NORWAY, RUSSIA --
740
00:36:55,947 --> 00:36:58,650
WE ARE ALL COMPETING
FOR INVESTMENT DOLLARS.
741
00:36:58,684 --> 00:37:01,253
I WAS IN THE ROOM WITH
VLADIMIR PUTIN A FEW YEARS AGO,
742
00:37:01,287 --> 00:37:04,756
WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
A DEAL HE MADE WITH EXXON
743
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:10,262
WHERE HE EXPECTS $350 BILLION
WORTH OF INVESTMENT
744
00:37:10,296 --> 00:37:11,997
FLOWING THROUGH
THAT PARTICULAR DEAL.
745
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:13,365
TO FIND OIL AND GAS.
746
00:37:13,399 --> 00:37:14,700
TO FIND
AND PRODUCE IT, YEAH.
747
00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,869
AND SO, WE ARE
ALL IN A COMPETITION TO --
748
00:37:17,903 --> 00:37:20,506
BECAUSE
WE'RE BASICALLY APPEARING
749
00:37:20,539 --> 00:37:22,308
IN THE SAME BOARDROOMS
AROUND THE WORLD --
750
00:37:22,341 --> 00:37:24,743
YOU KNOW, EXXON INVESTS IN MANY
OF OUR DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
751
00:37:24,776 --> 00:37:27,713
ConocoPhillips INVESTS IN MANY
OF THESE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
752
00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,816
AND SO THE QUESTION IS --
WHICH ARCTIC REGION
753
00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:33,819
WILL WIN
THAT INVESTMENT BATTLE?
754
00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:35,887
[ SINGING IN NATIVE LANGUAGE ]
755
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,430
AND THAT BATTLE
INCLUDES GREENLAND.
756
00:37:44,463 --> 00:37:48,066
THEY'RE ON THE FRONT LINES
OF GLOBAL WARMING.
757
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:50,402
ICE IS PART
OF THEIR NATIONAL IDENTITY.
758
00:37:50,436 --> 00:37:52,638
AND I EXPECTED THEM
TO BE OUTRAGED
759
00:37:52,671 --> 00:37:55,407
BY THE DRAMATIC CHANGES
THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE,
760
00:37:55,441 --> 00:37:57,676
BUT, INSTEAD,
JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE,
761
00:37:57,709 --> 00:38:00,679
THEY SEE THE MELTING ICE
AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
762
00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:03,682
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS,
763
00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:06,818
OIL COMPANIES HAVE BEEN SPENDING
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
764
00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:10,322
TO LEASE GIANT TRACTS
OF OFFSHORE REAL ESTATE HERE
765
00:38:10,356 --> 00:38:12,924
JUST SO THEY CAN LOOK FOR OIL.
766
00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:16,595
I WANT TO ASK GREENLAND'S
PRIME MINISTER, ALEQA HAMMOND,
767
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:18,630
WHAT THAT KIND OF MONEY
WOULD MEAN
768
00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:22,834
FOR A RELATIVELY POOR COUNTRY
OF JUST 57,000 PEOPLE.
769
00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:24,336
I HAVE A MAP
770
00:38:24,370 --> 00:38:26,372
SO THAT YOU AND I
CAN LOOK AT THE MAP
771
00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:29,708
THAT SHOWS JUST WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
772
00:38:29,741 --> 00:38:33,612
SO, THIS IS GREENLAND,
OBVIOUSLY.
773
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:38,417
AND THIS IS WHERE ALL
THE OIL EXPLORATION IS GOING ON.
774
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:43,822
THAT LOOKS LIKE A HUGE SWATH
OF REAL ESTATE OUT THERE.
775
00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,691
THE NEW OIL
AROUND THE WORLD
776
00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:48,126
TO BE FOUND IN THE FUTURE
IS IN GREENLAND.
777
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:49,761
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH
778
00:38:49,795 --> 00:38:52,731
THE OIL COMPANIES
ARE ALREADY SPENDING
779
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,900
FOR THIS EXPLORATION
OUT THERE?
780
00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:56,868
A LOT OF DOLLARS.
781
00:38:56,902 --> 00:38:58,437
MORE --
AM I RIGHT? --
782
00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:00,138
THAN THE GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT
OF GREENLAND?
783
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:01,940
YES, YES.
784
00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:05,377
THEY'RE SPENDING MORE THAN
THE WHOLE ECONOMY OF GREENLAND
785
00:39:05,411 --> 00:39:07,879
JUST TO FIND THIS OIL
OUT THERE.
786
00:39:07,913 --> 00:39:09,648
AND IF THEY FIND IT,
787
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:12,384
EVERY CITIZEN OF GREENLAND
WILL BENEFIT IN SOME WAY.
788
00:39:12,418 --> 00:39:14,953
YES, OF COURSE.
OTHERWISE, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
789
00:39:14,986 --> 00:39:17,589
THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTALISTS
790
00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:20,992
WHO WOULD WANT YOU
NOT EVEN TO DEVELOP THE OIL.
791
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:25,597
IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET
THESE ENVIRONMENTALISTS KNOW
792
00:39:25,631 --> 00:39:29,468
THAT THIS IS NOT A MUSEUM.
793
00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:31,637
THIS IS NOT NEW FRONTIER,
794
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:33,939
WHERE YOU CAN JUST MAKE
A NEW TREATY
795
00:39:33,972 --> 00:39:36,107
SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT
TO BE TOUCHED.
796
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:39,945
PEOPLE LIVE HERE.
797
00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:43,682
WE HAVE A WORD TO SAY.
798
00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,418
IF WE ARE NOT
TO BECOME VICTIMIZED
799
00:39:46,452 --> 00:39:49,187
IN THIS CLIMATE-CHANGE ISSUE,
800
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:50,956
IT'S IMPORTANT,
AS A POLITICIAN,
801
00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:54,926
WE FIND OTHER OPTIONS
FOR INCOME AS A PEOPLE.
802
00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:08,440
Woman: OKAY, SO,
Y'ALL TELL ME ABOUT YOUR TRIP.
803
00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:10,976
IT WAS AWESOME.
804
00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:12,844
IT WAS A GREAT TRIP.
805
00:40:12,878 --> 00:40:17,015
A LOT OF FUN,
LEARNED A LOT.
806
00:40:17,048 --> 00:40:19,851
I THOUGHT I'D GET
THE ULTIMATE ANSWER --
807
00:40:19,885 --> 00:40:22,988
IS CLIMATE CHANGE FOR REAL
OR NOT?
808
00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:25,524
AND I DIDN'T.
809
00:40:25,557 --> 00:40:27,125
YOU KNOW,
SORRY THAT IT SEEMED
810
00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:30,862
LIKE SHE CAME JUST AUTOMATICALLY
ASSUMING THIS IS CLIMATE CHANGE
811
00:40:30,896 --> 00:40:32,197
AND THIS IS DAMAGED
BY CLIMATE CHANGE.
812
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,865
SHE WASN'T ASSUMING IT, DAD.
SHE STUDIES IT.
813
00:40:33,899 --> 00:40:36,902
IT'S WHAT SHE DOES FOR A LIVING.
IT'S NOT AN ASSUMPTION.
814
00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:39,170
THERE IS COPIOUS RESEARCH
THAT INDICATES
815
00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,540
THAT CLIMATE CHANGE
IS MAKING DROUGHTS WORSE
816
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:46,044
AND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE
817
00:40:46,077 --> 00:40:49,147
AS OUR LIFE --
LIKE, WITHIN MY LIFETIME,
818
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:50,649
IT'S GOING TO BECOME
819
00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:52,884
AN INCREASINGLY
MORE DIFFICULT PROBLEM
820
00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:54,986
FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE
FRESHWATER.
821
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:56,622
THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION.
822
00:40:56,655 --> 00:40:57,856
IT'S NOT
AN ASSUMPTION, DAD.
823
00:40:57,889 --> 00:40:59,491
THERE'S SOLID,
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
824
00:40:59,525 --> 00:41:00,592
THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
825
00:41:00,626 --> 00:41:01,660
WELL,
I'VE HEARD THAT SO MUCH,
826
00:41:01,693 --> 00:41:03,094
BUT NOBODY'S PRESENTED
827
00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:05,230
THAT SOLID SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE,
IN MY OPINION.
828
00:41:05,263 --> 00:41:06,865
WELL,
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME
829
00:41:06,898 --> 00:41:08,767
LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR REASONS NOT TO BELIEVE IT.
830
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,536
WELL, YEAH,
I DON'T THINK I WAS.
831
00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:11,637
MAYBE I AM.
832
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:13,138
IT'S NOT UNLIKE --
833
00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:15,741
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T LINK
CANCER TO CIGARETTES 100%,
834
00:41:15,774 --> 00:41:17,142
BUT YOU WOULDN'T GIVE
835
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:18,677
YOUR 10-YEAR-OLD CHILD
A PACK OF CIGARETTES,
836
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:21,012
BECAUSE THERE'S SOME MEASURE
OF UNCERTAINTY.
837
00:41:21,046 --> 00:41:23,782
WELL,
WE'VE HAD CASES IN HISTORY
838
00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:25,884
WHERE 99% OF PEOPLE
BELIEVE ONE THING,
839
00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:27,285
AND THEY WERE TOTALLY WRONG.
840
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:30,922
DAD, I WOULD BET MY LIFE
ON THE FACT
841
00:41:30,956 --> 00:41:33,625
THAT HISTORY WILL SAY
THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM,
842
00:41:33,659 --> 00:41:35,193
AND WE COULD HAVE DONE
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
843
00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,862
AND RIGHT NOW,
YOU'RE IN THE CAMP
844
00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:38,564
THAT'S NOT DOING
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
845
00:41:38,597 --> 00:41:40,666
DO YOU REALLY WANT
TO BE IN THAT CAMP?
846
00:41:40,699 --> 00:41:42,534
I WANT TO BE
IN THE CAMP OF THE TRUTH.
847
00:41:42,568 --> 00:41:44,636
I'M SAYING
I WOULD BET MY LIFE ON IT.
848
00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:46,538
YEAH, BECAUSE, SEE,
THAT'S AN EMOTIONAL PERSUASION.
849
00:41:46,572 --> 00:41:47,773
NO, IT'S NOT AN EMOTION.
850
00:41:47,806 --> 00:41:49,675
IT STILL
DOESN'T GIVE ME THE FACTS.
851
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:51,677
I'VE JUST SET YOU UP
852
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:54,646
WITH ONE OF THE MOST RENOWNED
CLIMATE SCIENTISTS IN THE WORLD.
853
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,947
YOU WEREN'T WILLING
TO HEAR THE FACTS.
854
00:41:55,981 --> 00:41:57,182
I THINK I WAS.
855
00:41:57,215 --> 00:41:59,217
WE ARE CONSISTENTLY,
CONSTANTLY COMING
856
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:01,787
UP TO OUR PARENTS,
TO OUR FRIENDS,
857
00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:03,955
WHO ARE JUST LOOKING
THE OTHER WAY.
858
00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:06,558
WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA ERR,
WHICH SIDE WE WANT TO ERR ON?
859
00:42:06,592 --> 00:42:08,660
WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING
THIS CONVERSATION
860
00:42:08,694 --> 00:42:10,095
IF YOU WEREN'T OUR DAUGHTER.
861
00:42:10,128 --> 00:42:12,230
I JUST REALLY
ENCOURAGE YOU
862
00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:16,167
TO PUT SOME ENERGY
INTO DOING THE RESEARCH,
863
00:42:16,201 --> 00:42:17,936
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT
TO BE ON THE SIDE
864
00:42:17,969 --> 00:42:21,106
THAT SAID, "I HAD A CHANCE,
AND I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING."
865
00:42:30,248 --> 00:42:32,217
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
866
00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:35,587
Stahl: IT TURNS OUT
NOT EVERYONE IS CONTENT
867
00:42:35,621 --> 00:42:40,258
TO STAND BY AND WATCH THE ARCTIC
BECOME THE NEXT SAUDI ARABIA.
868
00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:43,361
GREENPEACE IS CAMPAIGNING
ALL OVER THE WORLD
869
00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:46,965
TO MAKE THE ARCTIC
A NO-DRILLING ZONE.
870
00:42:49,635 --> 00:42:51,302
THIS PAST SEPTEMBER,
871
00:42:51,336 --> 00:42:54,673
30 GREENPEACE ACTIVISTS
CRASHED AN OIL RIG
872
00:42:54,706 --> 00:42:56,742
OWNED BY ENERGY GIANT GAZPROM.
873
00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:58,777
SOME OF THEM ENDED UP
874
00:42:58,810 --> 00:43:02,580
SPENDING THREE MONTHS
IN A RUSSIAN PRISON AS A RESULT.
875
00:43:03,949 --> 00:43:06,685
THEY SEEM WILLING
TO DO ALMOST ANYTHING
876
00:43:06,718 --> 00:43:09,054
TO PLACE THIS ISSUE
ON THE WORLD STAGE.
877
00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:17,629
[ PEOPLE CHANTING
IN NATIVE LANGUAGE ]
878
00:43:21,332 --> 00:43:23,769
[ CHANTING CONTINUES ]
879
00:43:26,738 --> 00:43:29,841
Man:
THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING.
880
00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:31,176
THERE ARE DANGERS.
881
00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:32,911
THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES.
882
00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:35,380
Stahl: I'D NEVER HEARD
OF THE ARCTIC COUNCIL.
883
00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:37,749
IT'S SORT OF A POLAR U.N.
884
00:43:37,783 --> 00:43:40,218
THIS ASSEMBLY OF ARCTIC NATIONS
885
00:43:40,251 --> 00:43:44,255
HAS BEEN MEETING FOR ALMOST TWO
DECADES WITHOUT MUCH FANFARE,
886
00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:47,959
BUT LATELY, THESE MEETINGS
HAVE TAKEN ON A NEW URGENCY.
887
00:43:47,993 --> 00:43:50,361
GOOD MORNING.
888
00:43:50,395 --> 00:43:52,397
Woman:
TODAY, THE ARCTIC IS RECEIVING
889
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:56,101
UNPRECEDENTED
INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION.
890
00:43:56,134 --> 00:43:57,736
Man:
THE ARCTIC HAS BECOME
891
00:43:57,769 --> 00:44:01,873
PART OF WORLD POLITICS
AS WE NEVER SAW BEFORE.
892
00:44:01,907 --> 00:44:05,677
TODAY, AS SECRETARY OF STATE,
I COME HERE KEENLY AWARE
893
00:44:05,711 --> 00:44:08,079
THAT THE LONG LIST
OF CHALLENGES --
894
00:44:08,113 --> 00:44:10,348
ICE MELT, RISING SEA LEVELS,
895
00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:13,852
AND INDISCRIMINATE
DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES --
896
00:44:13,885 --> 00:44:15,687
ALL OF THESE CARRY
897
00:44:15,721 --> 00:44:19,257
EVEN MORE CHALLENGES DOWNSTREAM,
SO TO SPEAK,
898
00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:22,861
TO EACH OF OUR ECONOMIES,
TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY,
899
00:44:22,894 --> 00:44:25,030
AND TO INTERNATIONAL STABILITY.
900
00:44:25,063 --> 00:44:26,364
WHAT HAPPENS HERE
901
00:44:26,397 --> 00:44:28,934
TOUCHES EVERY SINGLE PERSON
AROUND THE WORLD
902
00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:30,969
AND OUR WAY OF LIFE.
903
00:44:31,002 --> 00:44:33,304
Stahl:
BUT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL
HAS ISSUED NUMEROUS REPORTS
904
00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:36,241
ON THE THREAT CLIMATE CHANGE
POSES TO THE REGION,
905
00:44:36,274 --> 00:44:41,312
THEY ARE DOING NOTHING TO STOP
THE MAD RUSH FOR FOSSIL FUELS.
906
00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:45,984
AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT JOHN KERRY
THINKS OF ALL THIS.
907
00:44:46,017 --> 00:44:51,156
HE'S BEEN SOUNDING THE ALARM
ON CLIMATE CHANGE FOR DECADES.
908
00:44:51,189 --> 00:44:53,391
AS A SENATOR, HE TRIED FOR YEARS
909
00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:56,962
TO MAKE FOSSIL-FUEL COMPANIES
PAY FOR THE RIGHT
910
00:44:56,995 --> 00:45:00,065
TO DUMP HEAT-TRAPPING GASES
INTO THE ATMOSPHERE.
911
00:45:00,098 --> 00:45:01,733
HE FAILED, THANKS, IN PART,
912
00:45:01,767 --> 00:45:04,803
TO A HALF-BILLION-DOLLAR
LOBBYING CAMPAIGN
913
00:45:04,836 --> 00:45:07,138
BY ENERGY COMPANIES.
914
00:45:07,172 --> 00:45:11,109
Stahl: SO, AS A PERSON
WHO HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE
915
00:45:11,142 --> 00:45:14,980
ON THIS ISSUE FOREVER,
FOR DECADES NOW,
916
00:45:15,013 --> 00:45:17,115
IT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU
917
00:45:17,148 --> 00:45:19,184
THAT, I GUESS,
THE ENERGY DEPARTMENT GIVES OUT
918
00:45:19,217 --> 00:45:21,152
HUNDREDS OF PERMITS
TO OIL COMPANIES
919
00:45:21,186 --> 00:45:24,389
TO DIG
IN THE ALASKAN ARCTIC?
920
00:45:24,422 --> 00:45:26,091
DOES IT BOTHER YOU?
SURE, IT BOTHERS ME.
921
00:45:26,124 --> 00:45:27,158
OF COURSE IT DOES.
922
00:45:27,192 --> 00:45:28,860
HOW COULD IT NOT BOTHER YOU,
923
00:45:28,894 --> 00:45:31,830
IF YOU ACCEPT THE SCIENTIFIC
FACTS THAT I'VE SAID I ACCEPT?
924
00:45:31,863 --> 00:45:33,164
OF COURSE IT BOTHERS ME,
925
00:45:33,198 --> 00:45:35,834
WHICH IS WHY
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
926
00:45:35,867 --> 00:45:37,268
HAS ISSUED NEW RESTRAINTS
927
00:45:37,302 --> 00:45:40,105
ON COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS,
NEW POWER SOURCES.
928
00:45:40,138 --> 00:45:42,540
WE'VE GOT NEW STANDARDS
FOR AUTOMOBILES, TRUCKS.
929
00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:44,442
I MEAN,
WE'RE DOING THINGS,
930
00:45:44,475 --> 00:45:48,780
BUT, FRANKLY, WE NEED
A MAJOR SHIFT IN THE RESPONSE
931
00:45:48,814 --> 00:45:50,916
OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
932
00:45:50,949 --> 00:45:52,317
TO HOW WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE
OUR ENERGY.
933
00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:54,185
WHY NOT JUST STOP
934
00:45:54,219 --> 00:45:58,123
GIVING OUT PERMITS RIGHT NOW
FOR DRILLING
935
00:45:58,156 --> 00:46:01,827
AND LOOKING FOR MORE OIL AND
MORE RESOURCES IN THE ARCTIC?
936
00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:04,495
BECAUSE IT'S NOT
THE LOOKING FORWARD
937
00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:05,931
OR THE DRILLING RIGHT NOW
938
00:46:05,964 --> 00:46:07,198
THAT'S GONNA MAKE
THE DIFFERENCE.
939
00:46:07,232 --> 00:46:08,934
YOU CAN'T CUT IT OFF
WITHOUT AN ALTERNATIVE.
940
00:46:08,967 --> 00:46:12,203
IF YOU WERE GETTING
AN ANALYST'S REPORT IN A COMPANY
941
00:46:12,237 --> 00:46:15,473
AND YOU ARE SAYING TO THEM,
"WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE
942
00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:17,342
"ABOUT WHERE OUR ENERGY'S
GONNA COME FROM
943
00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:19,044
IN 15 OR 20 YEARS?"
944
00:46:19,077 --> 00:46:21,913
BECAUSE OF THE SLOWNESS OF
THE POLITICAL SYSTEM TO RESPOND,
945
00:46:21,947 --> 00:46:23,882
BECAUSE OF THE POWER
OF SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES
946
00:46:23,915 --> 00:46:25,917
TO PREVENT IT
FROM HAPPENING FAST,
947
00:46:25,951 --> 00:46:27,118
YOU'D BET ON THE FACT
948
00:46:27,152 --> 00:46:29,254
THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
THE STATUS QUO
949
00:46:29,287 --> 00:46:30,588
IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
950
00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,291
AND THAT'S WHY THE MONEY
IS CHASING THAT FUTURE.
951
00:46:33,324 --> 00:46:37,028
SO, THERE IS NO POLICY
TO SAY,
952
00:46:37,062 --> 00:46:40,065
"THE OIL AND GAS IN THE ARCTIC
SHOULD STAY WHERE IT IS.
953
00:46:40,098 --> 00:46:41,366
WE SHOULDN'T DIG IT UP."
954
00:46:41,399 --> 00:46:43,001
THERE'S NO POLICY YET.
955
00:46:43,034 --> 00:46:47,205
WHEN I WAS EARLY INVOLVED
IN THE ENVIRONMENT EFFORTS,
956
00:46:47,238 --> 00:46:49,908
BACK IN 1970,
WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST EARTH DAY,
957
00:46:49,941 --> 00:46:51,576
AND 20 MILLION AMERICANS
CAME OUT
958
00:46:51,609 --> 00:46:53,244
AND SAID,
"WE WANT A CHANGE,"
959
00:46:53,278 --> 00:46:56,848
THEY ALSO UNELECTED
A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN CONGRESS,
960
00:46:56,882 --> 00:46:58,449
AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT
A CLEAN AIR ACT,
961
00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:00,451
SAFE DRINKING WATER,
MARINE-MAMMAL PROTECTION.
962
00:47:00,485 --> 00:47:01,953
ALL THOSE ACTS HAPPENED.
963
00:47:01,987 --> 00:47:03,989
WE EVEN CREATED THE EPA
OUT OF THAT.
964
00:47:04,022 --> 00:47:07,625
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED AGAIN.
WE NEED A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT.
965
00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,127
WE NEED AMERICANS
966
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,529
TO BE DEMANDING
OF THEIR PUBLIC OFFICIALS
967
00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:15,333
THAT WE HAVE
A RESPONSIBLE ENERGY POLICY.
968
00:47:23,108 --> 00:47:25,143
Somerhalder:
AS ANNA JANE KEEPS THINKING
969
00:47:25,176 --> 00:47:27,112
ABOUT HOW TO CONVINCE
HER FATHER,
970
00:47:27,145 --> 00:47:29,915
RICK IS BUSY DOING
HIS OWN RESEARCH
971
00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,217
AND FINDS ALL SORTS
OF INFORMATION
972
00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:36,421
THAT CONFIRMS HIS WORLD VIEW
AND ATTACKS THE SCIENCE.
973
00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:39,490
IN REALITY, THE U.S.
NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES,
974
00:47:39,524 --> 00:47:41,292
THE AMERICAN
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION,
975
00:47:41,326 --> 00:47:44,529
AND HUNDREDS OF SCIENTIFIC
ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD
976
00:47:44,562 --> 00:47:47,565
HAVE ESTABLISHED
THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL,
977
00:47:47,598 --> 00:47:50,235
THAT HUMANS
ARE MAINLY RESPONSIBLE,
978
00:47:50,268 --> 00:47:52,537
AND THAT THE IMPACTS
WILL BE SEVERE.
979
00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:55,907
BUT NONE OF THAT SEEMS
TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON RICK.
980
00:47:55,941 --> 00:47:58,176
ON A GLOBAL SCALE,
981
00:47:58,209 --> 00:47:59,677
WHEN YOU START COMPILING
982
00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:02,447
THE FINDINGS
OF THOUSANDS OF SCIENTISTS,
983
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,550
ALL ROADS INEXORABLY LEAD
TO THE EARTH IS WARMING
984
00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:07,152
BECAUSE OF CO2 EMISSIONS.
985
00:48:07,185 --> 00:48:09,187
WELL, ONE THING --
986
00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:13,424
THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE
THAT COUNTERS ALMOST EVERYTHING,
987
00:48:13,458 --> 00:48:15,193
AND IT IS
SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION.
988
00:48:15,226 --> 00:48:17,362
WOULD YOU LET ME BRING
THE EVIDENCE AGAINST IT
989
00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:19,130
AND PRESENT IT?
990
00:48:19,164 --> 00:48:24,169
WHICH I'VE NOT YET HAD
ANY CLIMATE-CHANGE PROPONENT
991
00:48:24,202 --> 00:48:25,603
BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO.
992
00:48:25,636 --> 00:48:28,073
Somerhalder:
A FAIR REQUEST.
993
00:48:28,106 --> 00:48:29,640
SO I START LOOKING
FOR A SCIENTIST
994
00:48:29,674 --> 00:48:31,509
WHO'D BE WILLING
TO HEAR RICK OUT.
995
00:48:38,649 --> 00:48:41,719
AND I THINK I FOUND
THE PERFECT PERSON --
996
00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:45,090
SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY USED TO SEE
THINGS THE SAME WAY RICK DOES.
997
00:48:45,123 --> 00:48:47,358
AND, IN FACT, HE USED TO BE
998
00:48:47,392 --> 00:48:50,161
ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL
CLIMATE DENIERS IN THE COUNTRY.
999
00:48:50,195 --> 00:48:52,363
I'M GOING TO BE TALKING
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE,
1000
00:48:52,397 --> 00:48:54,132
IN WHICH I WAS, INDEED,
A SKEPTIC.
1001
00:48:54,165 --> 00:48:57,168
Somerhalder: FOR YEARS,
DR. RICHARD MULLER'S RESEARCH
1002
00:48:57,202 --> 00:48:58,703
WAS FUNDED, IN PART,
1003
00:48:58,736 --> 00:49:02,207
BY FOSSIL-FUEL BILLIONAIRES
CHARLES AND DAVID KOCH,
1004
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,642
WHO HAVE FUNDED
NUMEROUS CLIMATE-DENIAL EFFORTS.
1005
00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:09,180
BUT THEN, IN 2012, HE FLIPPED.
1006
00:49:09,214 --> 00:49:11,116
NOW DR. MULLER TRIES TO CONVINCE
1007
00:49:11,149 --> 00:49:13,751
WHAT HE CALLS
"SOPHISTICATED SKEPTICS" --
1008
00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:16,254
PEOPLE LIKE RICK JOYNER.
1009
00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:18,189
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
WITH SCIENCE --
1010
00:49:18,223 --> 00:49:23,328
I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF HERE
THAT QUESTION THE SCIENCE.
1011
00:49:23,361 --> 00:49:25,330
I'M NOT GONNA SAY
THEY DISAPPROVE.
1012
00:49:25,363 --> 00:49:27,232
YOU MEAN AS A WHOLE,
THE SCIENCE AS A WHOLE.
1013
00:49:27,265 --> 00:49:31,636
PROBLEMS WITH THE MATH,
PROBLEMS WITH THE PSYCHOLOGY,
1014
00:49:31,669 --> 00:49:33,671
PROBLEMS
WITH THE POLITICS,
1015
00:49:33,704 --> 00:49:36,007
AND THERE IS SOME DEFINITE
HYPOCRISY.
1016
00:49:36,041 --> 00:49:38,276
Somerhalder:
WE TALKED FOR OVER THREE HOURS.
1017
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:41,012
IS IT MORE POLITICALLY
MOTIVATED?
1018
00:49:41,046 --> 00:49:42,680
AND, IF SO,
WHAT ARE THE POLITICS?
1019
00:49:42,713 --> 00:49:45,016
IT CAN BE OTHER FACTORS,
MANY OTHER FACTORS,
1020
00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:47,785
CAUSING A SEEMING DECREASE
IN TEMPERATURES.
1021
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,522
IS CO2 REALLY THE FACTOR
THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS?
1022
00:49:51,556 --> 00:49:53,091
Somerhalder:
PASTOR RICK LAID OUT
1023
00:49:53,124 --> 00:49:55,026
ALL THE REASONS
HE DOUBTED CLIMATE CHANGE.
1024
00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:57,295
AND DR. MULLER RESPONDED
1025
00:49:57,328 --> 00:49:59,564
WITH THE FINDINGS
OF HIS INVESTIGATION.
1026
00:49:59,597 --> 00:50:02,033
WHEN WE STARTED THIS WORK
THREE YEARS AGO,
1027
00:50:02,067 --> 00:50:04,269
IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME
THAT THE TEMPERATURES HAD RISEN.
1028
00:50:04,302 --> 00:50:06,704
SO THE THERMOMETER DATA
WAS IMPORTANT.
1029
00:50:06,737 --> 00:50:08,206
SO, WHAT DID YOU DO?
1030
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,042
I FELT WE HAD TO START
FROM THE BEGINNING,
1031
00:50:11,076 --> 00:50:13,411
ANALYZE THE DATA
OURSELVES.
1032
00:50:13,444 --> 00:50:16,414
WE WERE ABLE TO DERIVE
A TEMPERATURE CURVE
1033
00:50:16,447 --> 00:50:18,416
THAT STARTS IN 1753.
1034
00:50:18,449 --> 00:50:20,051
SO, WILL YOU
SHOW US THIS?
1035
00:50:20,085 --> 00:50:23,254
YEAH, LET ME SHOW YOU.
HERE'S THE PLOT.
1036
00:50:23,288 --> 00:50:26,191
SO, THIS LIGHT LINE
THAT BOUNCES UP AND DOWN
1037
00:50:26,224 --> 00:50:28,559
IS OUR TEMPERATURE RECORD
GOING BACK TO 1753.
1038
00:50:28,593 --> 00:50:30,328
Somerhalder:
THE CURVE SHOWED
1039
00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:33,364
A STEADY RISE IN TEMPERATURE
DURING THE INDUSTRIAL AGE,
1040
00:50:33,398 --> 00:50:35,266
BUT THERE WAS
SOMETHING PUZZLING.
1041
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:38,669
THERE WERE ALSO A SERIES
OF SUDDEN DROPS IN TEMPERATURE.
1042
00:50:38,703 --> 00:50:43,074
SO DR. MULLER AND HIS TEAM
LOOKED FOR AN EXPLANATION.
1043
00:50:43,108 --> 00:50:44,742
AND IT TURNS OUT
THESE DROPS IN TEMPERATURES
1044
00:50:44,775 --> 00:50:47,278
ALL MATCHED
THE KNOWN VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.
1045
00:50:47,312 --> 00:50:48,746
AND THE FACT
THAT WE COULD SEE THESE
1046
00:50:48,779 --> 00:50:50,615
GAVE US
THAT MUCH MORE CONFIDENCE
1047
00:50:50,648 --> 00:50:52,817
THAT WHAT WE HAD DONE
WAS RIGHT.
1048
00:50:52,850 --> 00:50:55,753
VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS CAUSE
THE PLANET TO COOL
1049
00:50:55,786 --> 00:50:58,856
BECAUSE ALL THE ASH IN THE AIR
BLOCKS SUNLIGHT.
1050
00:50:58,889 --> 00:51:01,226
BUT WE COULD SEE
THEY WERE ALL VERY SHORT-LIVED.
1051
00:51:01,259 --> 00:51:03,594
NOW, WE GOT
THIS GRADUAL CHANGE --
1052
00:51:03,628 --> 00:51:05,430
COMES ALL THE WAY UP HERE.
1053
00:51:05,463 --> 00:51:08,099
WHAT IS THAT?
1054
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:11,202
THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT
CAN CAUSE AN EXPONENTIAL RISE,
1055
00:51:11,236 --> 00:51:13,471
THINGS UNRELATED
TO GLOBAL-WARMING THEORY.
1056
00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:17,208
SO, WE PUT IN
THE SOLAR VARIABILITY.
1057
00:51:17,242 --> 00:51:18,776
WE HAVE GOOD RECORDS
OF SUNSPOTS.
1058
00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:20,645
AND I TRIED
THE SOLAR VARIABILITY.
1059
00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:23,748
AND, FINALLY,
MY FORMER GRADUATE STUDENT SAID,
1060
00:51:23,781 --> 00:51:25,750
"WHY DON'T YOU TRY
THE WORLD POPULATION?"
1061
00:51:25,783 --> 00:51:29,454
I DID THAT, AND IT WAS ALSO
NOT A VERY GOOD FIT.
1062
00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:32,457
Somerhalder: AFTER EXHAUSTING
ALL THE POSSIBLE NATURAL CAUSES,
1063
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:35,493
MULLER FINALLY PLUGGED IN
CARBON DIOXIDE.
1064
00:51:35,526 --> 00:51:39,764
IN THE END,
THE FIT THAT I GOT BEST,
1065
00:51:39,797 --> 00:51:42,133
THE FIT YOU SEE HERE --
1066
00:51:42,167 --> 00:51:45,203
AND THIS WAS
A JAW-DROPPING EXPERIENCE --
1067
00:51:45,236 --> 00:51:47,272
BY FAR, THE BEST FIT
1068
00:51:47,305 --> 00:51:51,509
WAS WHEN I PUT IN THE VOLCANOES
AND CARBON DIOXIDE.
1069
00:51:51,542 --> 00:51:53,511
THIS WAS REALLY
THE "EUREKA" MOMENT.
1070
00:51:53,544 --> 00:51:56,214
GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL
AND CAUSED BY HUMANS.
1071
00:51:56,247 --> 00:51:58,749
Somerhalder: IS THAT CONSISTENT
WITH, ULTIMATELY,
1072
00:51:58,783 --> 00:52:00,818
RIGHT AROUND WHEN THE INDUSTRIAL
REVOLUTION HAPPENED?
1073
00:52:00,851 --> 00:52:02,553
WHEN WE STARTED SPEWING OUT
1074
00:52:02,587 --> 00:52:05,790
COPIOUS QUANTITIES OF CO2
TO OUR DEVELOPMENT?
1075
00:52:05,823 --> 00:52:07,492
HERE,
THERE WAS A SLIGHT RISE,
1076
00:52:07,525 --> 00:52:09,227
AND THAT WAS MOSTLY DUE
TO THE BURNING OF WOOD.
1077
00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:10,795
AND YOU GET UP HERE
INTO THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION,
1078
00:52:10,828 --> 00:52:12,663
AND IT STARTS
GOING UP FASTER.
1079
00:52:12,697 --> 00:52:15,233
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CARBON
IN THE ATMOSPHERE,
1080
00:52:15,266 --> 00:52:19,170
AND YOU CAN DETERMINE
THAT IT'S FOSSIL FUEL.
1081
00:52:19,204 --> 00:52:20,905
SO, YOU'VE HEARD
A LOT OF HIS ARGUMENTS
1082
00:52:20,938 --> 00:52:22,640
TO YOUR CONCERNS
AND VICE VERSA.
1083
00:52:22,673 --> 00:52:23,941
WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW?
1084
00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:25,843
I STILL HAVE
QUESTIONS.
1085
00:52:25,876 --> 00:52:28,779
I MEAN, THIS HASN'T RESOLVED
ALL OF MY ANSWERS,
1086
00:52:28,813 --> 00:52:31,182
BUT HE HAS REALLY --
1087
00:52:31,216 --> 00:52:32,950
AT LEAST
YOU'VE SHOWN ME SOMEONE
1088
00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:35,320
WHO I FELT LIKE HAD
A TRUE SCIENCE...
1089
00:52:35,353 --> 00:52:37,588
YEAH.
...PERSPECTIVE.
1090
00:52:37,622 --> 00:52:38,723
MOST OF MY OTHER ONES,
1091
00:52:38,756 --> 00:52:39,757
THE PROBLEMS
WITH THE PSYCHOLOGY,
1092
00:52:39,790 --> 00:52:41,559
WITH THE POLITICS.
1093
00:52:41,592 --> 00:52:44,595
YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIT AROUND
AND ARGUE THIS TILL WE ALL DIE,
1094
00:52:44,629 --> 00:52:45,963
AND THAT DOESN'T CHANGE
1095
00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:48,266
THE FACT THAT IT'S REAL
AND THAT IT'S HAPPENING.
1096
00:52:48,299 --> 00:52:50,268
AND SO, AT WHAT POINT
1097
00:52:50,301 --> 00:52:52,970
DO WE HAVE TO PUT ASIDE
THE POLITICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
1098
00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:55,340
AND ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC,
1099
00:52:55,373 --> 00:52:56,841
AND WE NEED
TO ADDRESS THEM,
1100
00:52:56,874 --> 00:53:00,511
BUT JUST REALLY TAKE THE SCIENCE
FOR WHAT IT IS?
1101
00:53:08,653 --> 00:53:11,489
Stahl:
SINCE MY TRIP TO THE ARCTIC,
1102
00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:14,292
THE FOSSIL-FUEL RUSH
HAS CONTINUED.
1103
00:53:14,325 --> 00:53:17,495
GREENLAND RECENTLY GRANTED
NEW EXPLORATION LICENSES
1104
00:53:17,528 --> 00:53:20,731
TO SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL
OIL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD,
1105
00:53:20,765 --> 00:53:25,236
INCLUDING CHEVRON,
ConocoPhillips, AND BP.
1106
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:26,637
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME,
1107
00:53:26,671 --> 00:53:29,440
THE RUSSIANS HAVE STRUCK OIL
IN THE ARCTIC
1108
00:53:29,474 --> 00:53:31,376
AND HAVE BEGUN DRILLING.
1109
00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:40,611
Somerhalder:
AFTER ALMOST A DECADE
1110
00:54:40,645 --> 00:54:43,914
LISTENING TO HIS DAUGHTER ARGUE
THE CASE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE,
1111
00:54:43,948 --> 00:54:46,917
PASTOR RICK JOYNER
STILL ISN'T FULLY CONVINCED.
1112
00:54:46,951 --> 00:54:50,721
BUT HE HAS GAINED
ENOUGH RESPECT FOR ANNA JANE
1113
00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:54,725
TO LET HER SPEAK DIRECTLY
TO HIS CONGREGATION
1114
00:54:54,759 --> 00:54:57,695
AND LET THEM DECIDE.
1115
00:54:57,728 --> 00:54:59,096
[ INDISTINCT CHATTER ]
1116
00:54:59,129 --> 00:55:01,332
Anna Jane:
THESE PEOPLE ON THE FAR RIGHT
1117
00:55:01,366 --> 00:55:04,001
ARE INCREDIBLY INFLUENTIAL
IN A LOT OF CASES,
1118
00:55:04,034 --> 00:55:05,703
AND IF YOU CAN MOVE
A COUPLE OF THEM,
1119
00:55:05,736 --> 00:55:07,472
YOU CAN REALLY CHANGE THE GAME.
1120
00:55:07,505 --> 00:55:11,476
Rick:
HIS LOVE MAKES US WHOLE.
1121
00:55:11,509 --> 00:55:13,778
THIS IS A HEALING CONFERENCE.
1122
00:55:13,811 --> 00:55:15,980
YOU GETTING HEALED?
1123
00:55:16,013 --> 00:55:18,416
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
A LOT OF LEVELS OF HEALING.
1124
00:55:18,449 --> 00:55:20,618
THERE ARE A LOT
OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF HEALING.
1125
00:55:20,651 --> 00:55:23,854
AND TONIGHT, MY DAUGHTER'S
GONNA START TALKING ABOUT --
1126
00:55:23,888 --> 00:55:27,358
A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT
ABOUT HEALING THE LAND.
1127
00:55:27,392 --> 00:55:29,960
AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE
DIFFERENT BIBLICAL NARRATIVES
1128
00:55:29,994 --> 00:55:31,362
THAT I CAME ACROSS
1129
00:55:31,396 --> 00:55:32,763
THAT SPEAK
TO CARING FOR THE EARTH.
1130
00:55:32,797 --> 00:55:35,032
1 CORINTHIANS 1:26 SAID,
1131
00:55:35,065 --> 00:55:37,902
"FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S
AND THE FULLNESS THEREOF."
1132
00:55:37,935 --> 00:55:40,505
LEVITICUS SAYS,
"THE LAND IS MINE,
1133
00:55:40,538 --> 00:55:42,907
AND YOU ARE BUT MY ALIENS
AND MY TENANTS."
1134
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:45,876
CLIMATE DISRUPTION
IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE.
1135
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:49,380
IT'S A MORAL ISSUE.
IT'S A JUSTICE ISSUE.
1136
00:55:49,414 --> 00:55:52,517
EVEN MORE THAN THAT,
IT'S A SPIRITUAL ISSUE.
1137
00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:55,486
AND IF AND WHEN
CHRISTIANS DO ENGAGE,
1138
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,888
THERE WILL BE A GREAT DEAL
OF HEALING --
1139
00:55:57,922 --> 00:55:59,990
NOT JUST OF THE LAND,
1140
00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:02,527
BUT OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS
WITH THE LAND,
1141
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,530
WITH EACH OTHER, AND WITH GOD.
1142
00:56:05,563 --> 00:56:10,501
I ASK YOU PEOPLE OF GOD,
PLEASE DON'T SIT THIS ONE OUT.
1143
00:56:10,535 --> 00:56:12,937
WHO BETTER TO LEAD THIS
THAN CHRISTIANS --
1144
00:56:12,970 --> 00:56:16,474
BELIEVERS IN THE GREAT HOPE,
BELIEVERS IN RESURRECTION,
1145
00:56:16,507 --> 00:56:20,177
BELIEVERS IN SALVATION,
EVEN AGAINST ALL ODDS?
1146
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,780
THANK YOU.
1147
00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:25,115
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