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>>> COMING UP ON SOCIAL CHARM
REUNION --
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>> HE'S ON THE SIDE LINE, I'M
OUT THERE THROWING TOUCHDOWNS.
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>> REALLY FRATTY AND DUMB.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SPECULATED
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LOU WASSOR ORYOUR SUGAR DADDY.
>> NOBODY IS ASKING THEM ABOUT
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THEIR SEX-CAPADES.
>> WE BOTH AGREED IT WAS A
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DRUNKEN MISTAKE.
>> I WAS VERY EMBARRASSED.
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>> SHEP, DO YOU USE BIRTH
CONTROL?
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>> AM I NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO
THINKS THIS IS A VERY AWKWARD
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CONVERSATION?
>>> WELCOME TO THE SOUTHERN
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CHARM REUNION SHOW.
I'M ANDY COHEN JOINED BY OUR
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FAVORITE JENNA, CRAIG, WHITNEY,
SHEPPY, THOMAS AND CAMERAN.
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HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING?
>> FANTASTIC.
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>> REALLY EVEN JOYEDNJOYED THE SHOW.
I HAVE TO START WITH THE BABY.
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>> SHE IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
HE
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I LOVE HER VERY MUCH.
SHE'S BROUGHT A LOT OF JOY INTO
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MY LIFE.
I'M WONDERING WHY ARE DID I WAIT
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SO LONG.
I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS WHEN I
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WAS KATHRYN'S AGE.
SHE'D BE OUT OF COLLEGE BY NOW.
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>> THERE WAS A HUGE ARTICLE
ABOUT THE SHOW.
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AND BASICALLY THE ARTICLE SAID
THAT PEOPLE IN CHARLESTON ARE
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NOT INTO THIS SHOW.
AND THEY QUESTION WHY Y'ALL DID
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IT.
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
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>> WELL, BEING IN POLITICS, I
KNOW IT'S JUST A HANDFUL OF
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PEOPLE WHO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S
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REPRESENTATIVE OF MOST
CHARLTONIANS.
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SOME COMPLAIN AND BITCH.
>> ONE WHO COMPLAINED WAS 93
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YEARS OLD.
>> THEY DON'T LIKE CHANGE.
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>> YEAH, HOW DO PEOPLE IN
CHARLESTON REACT TO YOU THINK WE'VE PAID FOR
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ANYTHING IN LIKE THREE WEEK.
A BUNCH OF ADULT ME SALES ARE LEAK,
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YEAH, KEEP IT UP.
MY WIFE MADE ME WATCH AND NOW I
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LOVE IT.
>> YEAH, MY WIFE HAS ME HOOKED
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ON YOUR SHOW.
>> THE REAL STAR OF THE SHOW
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ISN'T HERE TONIGHT
UNFORTUNATELY, WHITNEY'S MOM,
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PATRICIA, HAS THE FLU.
>> SHE DOES.
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SHE SENDS HER REGRETS.
>> HOW DOES SHE FEEL ABOUT THE
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CRITICISM?
>> SHE COULD GIVE TWO [ BLEEP ].
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SHE KNOWS SHE'S PROBABLY BETTER
THAN THOSE PEOPLE AND JUST HAVE
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FUN WITH IT.
>> SHE GOT ALL DONE UP AND WENT
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TO WHOLE FOODS WITH ROBERT AND
MICHAEL, THE TWO GUYS THAT WORK
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FOR HER, WAITING FOR BE NOTICED
AND NOBODY NOTICED HER.
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>> CAMERAN, CONGRATULATIONS ARE
IN ORDER TO YOU YOU.
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YOU RECENTLY GOT MARRIED.
>> YES, I'M OFFICIALLY NOT
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INTERESTING ANYMORE.
>> IN SOME WAYS YOU WERE KIND OF
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THE MORAL CENTER OF THE SHOW.
>> I PREDICT IN WOULD YEARS
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YOU'LL BE MARRIED.
>> 35?
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THAT'S TWO YOUNG.
>> NO, IT'S NOT.
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LET'S REMEMBER THIS MOMENT.
IN TWO YEARS YOU'LL BE MARRIED.
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>> ARE YOU THE GUY WHISPERER?
>> PRETTY MUCH.
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>> BUT DO YOU THINK YOU CONTINUE
CITY GATED A
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INSIDE CITY GATED A LOT OF THE
DRAMA?
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>> MAYBE A LITTLE.
>> CAM GOT OFF VERY LUCKY.
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>> OUR CHARACTER REPUTATION AND
WORK HABITS --
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>> WHERE DOES SHE GET THE
[ BLEEP ] SOAP BOX TO COME AFTER
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US?
>> THERE ARE 500 ROOMS FOR
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PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
>> DON'T BE SO SELF-RIGHTEOUS
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AND SANCTIONG TAKE MONEY YUS.
>> YOU WERE ON THE REAL WORLD.
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>> I WAS.
WHEN I WAS 19.
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>> AND WHY GO BACK INTO THE
WELL?
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>> WHITNEY KIND OF CONVINCED ME.
EVERYBODY WAS REALLY SUPPORTED.
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>> WHY DO WE NEVER SEE YOUR GUY
ON THE SHOW?
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>> THAT'S WHAT I GET A LOT.
NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ON
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REALITY TV.
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
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TOGETHER?
>> A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS.
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>> THAT'S GREAT.
>> THERE IS A HOST OF REASONS.
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>> I WANT A SHOW OF HANDS.
WHO HERE HAS MADE A PASS AT
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CAMERAN?
>> YAY.
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>> THEY'RE LIKE BROTHERS.
P.
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>> SHEP, YOU NEVER HAS?
>> NO, I RESPECT HER AND I
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RESPECT HER NOW HUSBAND TOO
MUCH.
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>> I HAVE MADE A PASS AT JENNA.
>> HE DID.
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>> SHE WAS LIKE YOU'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO TOUCH ME, I'M ALLOWED
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TO TOUCH YOU.
AND SHE DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH ME
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THAT MUCH.
JUST [ BLEEP ].
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>> I HAVE TO SAY FROM WATCHING A
LOT OF THE HOUSE WIVES SHOWS, IT
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WAS REFRESHING TO SEE ON THIS
SHOW A LOT OF THE DRAMA COMING
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FROM THE MEN.
>> DUDE, DO WHATEVER YOU LIKE.
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>> I'M NOT HOOKING UP WITH MY
FRIEND'S GIRL.
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>> GUYS, DO YOU FEEL IN ATHAT MEN
HAM DRAMAW
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HANDLE DRAMA AND EMOTIONS
DIFFERENTLY?
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>> I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW
LONG THEY STAY MAD AT EACH
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OTHER.
WITHIN THREE HOUR, THEY'RE LIKE
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DO YOU WANT TO GET A DRINK WHERE
GIRLS HOLD IT A LITTLE LONGER.
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>> WHITNEY, A LOT OF VIEWERS
FELT LIKE YOU HIT BELOW THE
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BELT.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU SAID THIS
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SEASON THAT YOU REGRET?
>> WHICH ONE?
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>> A LOT.
>> WELL, WITH THOMAS, IT KIND OF
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CAME DISINGENUOUS, MY ADVICE TO
HIM.
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IT JUST CAME OUT OF LOVE AND
CONCERN FOR OUR FRIEND THAT EVEN
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THOUGH SHE'S A YOUNG GIRL AND
PERHAPS QUESTIONABLE MOTIVATIONS
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AT THE TIME, THAT FOR HIS
POLITICAL CAREER, WE WANT HIM TO
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PROJECT A DIFFERENT IMAGE AND IT
WAS CONCERN FOR HIS POLITICAL
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CAREER AND HIM AS A FRIEND.
>> ARE THE TWO OF YOU GOOD NOW?
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>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THEY'RE PROBABLY CLOSEST OUT
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OF ALL OF US.
>> YEAH.
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>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE A
BETTER FRIEND TO THE GUYS THAN
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THEY ARE TO YOU?
>> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE BAD
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FRIENDS.
MAYBE JUST MY UPBRINGING, I'M A
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BIT OF A MORE OF A LOUD MOUTH OR
IT'S HARD IF ME TO KEEP IN MY
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FEELINGS AND OPINIONS.
BUT I KNOW THEY WOULD HAVE MY
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BACK.
I THINK THIS SUMMER I WAS BEING
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A BETTER FRIEND TO THOMAS AND
SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS BECAUSE I
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WAS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY ONE
EXCEPT FOR MAYBE CAM AND JENNA
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THAT WAS TELLING THEM HOW WE
FELT.
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AND IT WAS COMING FROM A PLACE
OF --
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>> HOLDING GRUDGES IS LIKE
DRINKING POISON AND WAITING FOR
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THE OTHER GUY TO DIE.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CRAIG'S
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BRO CODES?
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
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IT'S ALL THE WOMAN'S CHOICE.
IF THEY QUANTWANT TO BE WITH YOU,
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THEY WILL BE WITH YOU.
IF THEY WANT TO BE WITH YOU,
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THEY WILL BE WITH YOU.
>> BRO CODE IS REALLY FRATTY AND
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DUMB.
>> OF COURSE IT'S THE GIRL'S
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CHOICE.
BUT I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED --
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THERE ARE SO MANY GIRLS IN
CHARLESTON THAT IF I REALLY
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LIKED A GIRL AND LIKE MY FRIENDS
KNEW IT, THEN THE OTHER GUYS
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WOULD PICK ONE OF THE OTHER
THOUSAND GIRLS.
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>> OH, MY GOSH.
>> YOU'RE LIKE SERIOUS.
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>> IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU
REALLY ALL DO FISH IN THE SAME
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SMALL POND.
>> I DON'T.
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THAT'S WHY NONE OF MINE --
>> I USE A DIFFERENT LURE.
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>> YOU KNOW I NEVER MADE A PASS
AT KATHERINERYN NOR DID SHE EVER LIKE
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ME.
>> I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAIL,
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BUT I WON, SO --
>> DO YOU THINK CRAIG IS JEALOUS
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OF THE GIRLS YOU PICK UP?
>> NO.
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CRAIG IS LIKE THE MOST
PARTICULAR S.O.B. I'VE EVER MET.
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HE'S ON THE SIDE LINE AND I'M
OUT THERE THROWING TOUCHDOWNS,
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MAN.
>> LOWER YOUR STANDARD, RAISE
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YOUR AVERAGE.
>> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
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>> SHEP, DO YOU USE BIRTH
CONTROL?
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>> NO, I JUST ASSUME THEY DO.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
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YOU ASSUME, RIGHT?
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>>> WE'RE BACK WITH THE SOUTHERN
CHARM REUNION.
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SHEP, DO YOU THINK YOUR PASSION
FOR LEISURE HAS ANYTHING TO DO
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WITH WHY YOU CAN'T SETTLE DOWN?
>> OF COURSE.
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I'D LOVE TO AN FREE BIRD LIKE LIKE
-- I WANTED TO GO BIRD SHOOTING
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AND I DON'T WANT TO ASK
PERMISSION.
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>> I DON'T THINK EVERYONE IS
MEANT TO BE MARRIED.
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>> I DON'T LIKE ASKING
PERMISSION FOR ANYTHING.
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SO THAT IS MY --
>> DID YOU YEARN FOR A
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PARTNERSHIP?
>> NO, I YEARN FOR FREEDOM.
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>> FROM FRAZIER, MICHIGAN, SAYS
DOES IT BOTHER YOU WHEN WHITNEY
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WAS SAYING HE WOULDN'T OPEN A
RESTAURANT WITH YOU.
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>> I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SHEP,
I THINK WE MET LAST --
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>> I WOULD BE AFRAID TO DO A HOT
DOG STAND WITH SHEP.
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>> AND THEN I OPENED A HOT DOG
STAB STAND WITH
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STAND WITH MY FRIEND.
>> WHERE DID YOU GO TO COLLEGE?
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>> VANDERBILT BUSINESS SCHOOL.
SO OVEREDUCATED, UNDERMOTIVATED.
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>> WHO PAYS YOUR BILLS?
>> PEOPLE SEND ME CHECKS EVERY
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NOW AND THEN.
IT'S KIND OF NICE.
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>> YOU HAVE A COUPLE FUNDS?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
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>> HAS THE SHOW MADE YOUR FAMILY
SAY, SHEPPY, YOU GOT TO --
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>> NO I'VE BEEN SO FORTUNATE.
I COULD GET INTO IT REALLY IF
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YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH A
SPREADSHEET AND TELL YOU ALL
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ABOUT IT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO
MATTER THAT.
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>> ACTUALLY, AT SOME POINT I
WOULD.
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>> LET'S DO IT OVER LUNCH.
>> MARIAN SAYS JUST GROW UP AND
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SAYS DANNY IS THE GIRL FOR YOU.
LOOKS LIKE YOU REALLY ARE FOR
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LOVE.
>> I DWRE.
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>> MARK MY WORDS -- HE'LL MARRY
HER.
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>> I'VE BEEN IN LOVE TWICE AND
MY DEFINITION OF LOVE IS YOU
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CAN'T BE HAPPY IF THE OTHER
PERSON IS UNHAPPY.
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AND I DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY.
AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T FEEL THAT
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WAY.
AND --
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>> I THINK HE LOVED DANNY.
I DON'T THINK HE'LL EVER MEET
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ANYBODY THAT CAN CAN PUTK
I DON'T THINK HE'LL EVER MEET
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ANYBODY THAT CAN CAN PUTKCAN PUT UP WITH THE
WAY SHE DOES.
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>> I DON'T WANT TO BE PUT UP
WITH.
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I WANT TO BE SLAPPED AROUND.
I WANT SOMEONE ON CALL MY ASS
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OUT.
>> SHE DOES CALL YOU OUT.
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>> BUT SHE ALSO PUTS UP WITH HIM
AND THAT'S WHAT SHE DOESN'T
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LIKE.
HE WANTS SOMEONE THAT WILL BE --
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>> I CAN'T STAND LIKE IF YOU'RE
WHERE SHOULD WE GO TO DINNER,
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WHEREVER YOU WANT.
SHE WAS LIKE WHEN ARE YOU GOING
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TO GROW UP.
I DON'T NEED THAT.
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I NEED LIKE SHUT UP, WHAT YOU
JUST SAID WASN'T FUNNY.
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>> SHEP, DO YOU USE BIRTH
CONTROL?
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>> DO THEY OR DO I?
>> DO YOU.
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>> NO, I ASSUME THEY DO.
>> YOU JUST ASSUME.
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YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
ASSUME, RIGHT?
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>> IT FEELS SO GOOD, I CAN'T
STOP.
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>> IT FEEL SO IS GOOD YOU CAN'T
STOP.
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ALL RIGHT.
WHAT WAS IT LIKE FOR YOUKACAME TO YOUR HOUSE TO
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DISCUSS THE PREGNANCY SCARED?
WERE YOU WORRIED?
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>> ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, 7.
>> KATHRYN IS TWO WEEKS LATE.
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I KNOW IT'S BEEN ABOUT A MONTH
SINCE I HAD SEX WITH HER.
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>> WHY WOULD YOU ASK THAT.
THAT'S WEIRD.
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>> I KNOW.
SHE SAYS I'M TWO WEEK LATE.
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SO I IMMEDIATELY WENT AND BOUGHT
A PREGNANCY TEST.
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WHICH CAME UP AN ERROR SO I
DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S [ BLEEP ] ME
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OR WHAT.
AND I ASKED HER STRAIGHT, I SAID
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I KNOW YOU WERE HAVING RELATIONS
WITH SHEP, KEY BE THE DADDY.
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>> I WAS FURIOUS BECAUSE I WAS
COMING OFF A COUPLE DAY BENDER.
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I WAS SO ASLEEP AND THOMAS CAME
THROUGH WITH TWO CAMERAMEN.
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AND THAT WAS TOTALLY ORGANIC.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.
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AND I WAS PUZZLED.
>> WHAT DID YOU MEAN WHEN YOU GO
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THIS AIN'T RIGHT, MAN.
>> WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW --
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>> YOU WERE WAKING UP LIKE AT
1:00, THIS ALL HAPPENED TODAY?
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>> JAMIE FROM NEW JERSEY WANTS
TO KNOW DID YOU TAKE A PATERNITY
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TEST FOR THE BABY.
>> YES.
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IT CAME BACK AND SAID 28OUT OF
28 HITS, MEANING THAT IT'S MINE.
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>> JACKIE FROM NEW ORLEANS
E-MAILED US AND SAID AT THE END
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OF THE SEASON, WHITNEY, YOU WERE
HONEST WITH THOMAS ABOUT HOOKING
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UP WITH KATHRYN.
IN YOUR OPINION, DO YOU THINK
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KATHRYN WAS HONEST WITH THOMAS
DURING THE INITIAL PREGNANCY
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SCARE OR DO YOU THINK SHE WAS
TRYING TO TRAP HIM?
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>> I THINK SHE WAS TRYING TO
TRAP HIM.
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I THINK SHE PUT THE TEST IN THE
TOILET OR SOMETHING.
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WHATEVER IS FINE.
IT WAS A CRAZY TIME.
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I THOUGHT SHE WAS DISINGENUOUS.
BUT AGAIN, THEY WERE TRYING.
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SO IT WORKED OUT FOR THE BEST.
P.
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>> NOW THAT THOMAS HAS A CHILD,
DO YOU FEEL MORE PRESSURE TO
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SETTLE DOWN?
>> WHITNEY'S KILLING IT.
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>> THEY'RE LIKE YOU'RE THAT GUY
ON THE SHOW -- LET'S GO.
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>> AT THE HOUSE?
>> SKIP ANY DIPPING.
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>> THE GIRL GOES I THOUGHT IT
WAS YOUR HOUSE.
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>> LIZ FROM SAN ANTONIO SAID ARE
YOU STILL LIVING IN THE LOFT OR
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DID YOU MOVE BACK IN WITH YOUR
MOM?
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>> I MOVED OUT OF THE LOFT.
>> IT WAS A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT
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HOUSE.
>> I'VE BEEN LIVING ON MY OWN
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SINCE I WAS 18.
I DON'T WANT TO GET PIGEON HOLED
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LIKE HE'S LIVING WITH HIS
MOTHER.
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[ BLEEP ] EMBARRASSING.
>> AND YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND.
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>> I DO.
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
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TOGETHER.
>> >>I THINK SINCE LAST FALL.
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>> YOU THINK.
>> WE HAVE.
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ABSOLUTELY.
>> HOW OLD IS SHE?
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>> SHE'S 21.
>> COME ON.
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IS THAT TRUE?
>> YES.
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>> HOW OLD ARE YOU?
>> I'M 45.
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IN EUROPE, THEY'RE MORE MATURE.
>> IS SHE EUROPEAN?
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>> YES.
SPEAKS DIFFERENT LANGUAGES,
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TRAVEL, EDUCATED.
P.
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>> SO IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IS SHE
MORE KIND OF CULTURED AND MATURE
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THAN KATHRYN?
>> PROBABLY, YEAH.
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>> DOES YOUR MOM APPROVE?
>> MY MOM LIKES HER VERY MUCH.
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SHE'S SWEET, NICE GIRL.
EDUCATED.
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AND THINGS SHOULD BE GOOD.
GOOD GIRLFRIEND FOR SURE.
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>> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
>>> I CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE STILL
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LIKE A LITTLE EMOTIONAL ABOUT
THIS PERSON.
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>> IT WAS TOUGH, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE I LOVED HER DEARLY.
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AND SO I REALLY HURT MYSELF, YOU
KNOW, WHEN I DID IT.
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>>> COME BACK, Y'ALL.
I'M HERE WITH THE SOUTHERNERS
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FROM CHARLESTON.
IN LIVEING TO Y'ALL TALK TO EACH
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OTHER --
>> Y'ALL.
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>> YEAH.
I'M AMAZED BY HOW MUCH LEARNING
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GOES ON.
SPECIFICALLY, SENATOR RAVENEL,
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FROM YOU.
I FEEL LIKE YOU BLUR YOUR WAY
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THROUGH HALF THE EPISODES.
>> I'M SORT OF A LIGHT WEIGHT.
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GIVE ME A COUPLE BEERS AND I'M
SLURRING.
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I'M NOT A BIG DRINKER.
SO I CAN'T REALLY HANDLE MY
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LIQUOR.
SO WHEN THEY'RE BLIPLYING ME WITH
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ALCOHOL --
>> IT'S ALL MY FAULT.
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>> THOMAS HAS A VERY DIFFERENT
DIALECT THAN ALL OF US.
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>> WANT FOR HEAR MY IMPRESSION?
I ONCE HAD A STUDEBAKER IN THE
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YEAR OF 1975 AND I WORE A SEAR
SUCKER SUIT AND I DROVE DOWN
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CANE SUIT.
>> THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
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>> THANK YOU.
>> WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE
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SHOW, THOMAS?
SEEMS LIKE YOU HAD A LOT TO LOSE
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OR GAIN.
>> WHITNEY TALKED ME INTO IT AND
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I DECIDED A PROMISE MADE SHOULD
BE A PROMISE KEPT P.
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>> YOU HAVE, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
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>> I THINK THOMAS HAS MORE
PEOPLE THAT LIKE HIM NOW THAN
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BEFORE HE DID THE SHOW.
MAYBE NOT ALL IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
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>> YOU'VE ANNOUNCED YOUR PLANS
TO RUN FOR SENATE.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND DO YOU THINK YOU'LL WIN?
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>> IF I EQUIPMENT MYSELF WELL,
COME CLOSE, PROBABLY A BAD WORD
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TO USE, BUT IF I LOSE, THEY SET
ME UP FOR THE NEXT RUN.
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>> HE'S LIKE AN OLD SCHOOL
POLITICIAN.
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LIKE A TIP O'NEILL, JFK.
THESE GUYS THEY DRANK, THEY
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WOMANIZED, THEY WERE HONEST AND
TRUE TO THEMSELVES, BUT THEY GOT
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[ BLEEP ] ON.
MOST POLITICIANS TODAY ARE
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USELESS.
THERE IS SOMETHING REFRESHING
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ABOUT THOMAS THAT I LIKE.
>> BRINGING OUR GENERATION'S
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VIEWS TO MAINSTREAM.
BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE THESE DAYS
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ARE ALL LIBERAL BECAUSE NO ONE
CARES WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES.
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DO WHAT YOU WANT.
BUT FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE.
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NO ONE IS REALLY GOING OUT THERE
AND SAYING THAT.
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>> LIKE THE FIRST TIME TIP
O'NEILL EVER UTTERED HIS --
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>> YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF PUBLIC
RIDICULE AND YOU'VE ADMITTED
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THAT YOU'VE BEEN THROWN OUT OF
GOOD SOCIETY FOR YOUR CRIMINAL
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PAST.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN,
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WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN A
MAN?
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>> IN OUR SITUATION, I FEEL AS
THOUGH THERE IS YOUR
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CONVICTIONS.
I THINK IN MY FAMILY IN THE BACK
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OF MY HEAD.
I DON'T KNOW.
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>> AFTER ALL THAT YOU'VE GONE
THROUGH, WHY DO YOU WANT TO
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SERVE THE STATE OF SOUTH
CAROLINA.
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>> IT'S JUST SOMETHING INSIDE OF
ME THAT FEELS THE NEED TO DO IT.
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I FEEL I COULD ACTUALLY HELP THE
COUNTRY.
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>> YOU'RE AN INDEPENDENT?
>> I'M RUNNING AS AN
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INDEPENDENT.
>> DO YOU THINK KATHRYN'S AGE
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AND THE BABY WILL HURT YOU?
>> I THINK IT WILL HELP ME.
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BECAUSE IT WILL SHOW THAT I'M
SETTLED DOWN NOW.
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TOTALLY GROUNDED ME.
AND I'M A DIFFERENT PERSON.
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IT'S BEEN TOTALLY
TRANSFORMATIVE.
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SO I THINK THAT IT ACTUALLY
HELPS ME AS A PERSON, ERGO IT
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HELPS ME AS A CANDIDATE.
>> AN OLD LATIN TERM.
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>> YEAH.
>> KATHERINE FROM SARASOTA SAYS
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THOMAS WHAT WAS YOUR FATHER'S
MEANING WHEN HE SAID HE WANTED
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TO RID HIS WALLET OF ABRAHAM
LINCOLNS WHEN TIPPING.
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DID THE TWO OF YOU AT LEAST TIP
20%?
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>> WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY WAS I
WENT INTO PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD
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AND THEY SAID IT'S ON THE HOUSE.
I HAD NO CASH.
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I NORMALLY TIP A25% TO 30%.
MY FATHER CAME ULTIMATE OFF THET OUT OF THE GREAT
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DEPRESSION AND IS A TIGHT AS A
STICK EVEN THOUGH HE HAS PLENTY
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OF MONEY.
HE GREW UP AS A TIME RIGHT AFTER
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RECONSTRUCTION, EVERY
CONVERSATION WHEN HE WAS A KID
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WAS BEFORE THE WAR, DURING THE
WAR, AFTER THE WAR.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE
LINCOLN, THINK HE SHOULD HAVE
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JUST LET THE SOUTH GO.
OBVIOUSLY SLAVERY IS ABHORRENT.
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HE JUST DIDN'T THINK 600,000
PEOPLE HAD TO DIE BECAUSE THEY
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CAME THROUGH AND BURNED THE
SOUTH.
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SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ILL WILL
TOWARDS LINCOLN.
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AND SO HE'S OF THAT OLD SCHOOL.
>> GOD, IF WE SPEND ANYMORE TIME
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TALKING ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR AT
THESE REUNIONS --
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>> SERIOUSLY.
>> YOU GUYS BROUGHT IT UP.
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>> NO, I LIKE IT.
LAUREN SAYS THOMAS, HAVE YOU
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GIVEN MUCH THOUGHT TO
KATHERINE'S PROMISCUITY BEFORE
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CONSIDERING A FAMILY.
AND WHAT DID YOUR FAMILY THINK
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ONCE THEY FOUND OUT BY WATCHING
THE SHOW.
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>> NEVER SAID A WORD.
THEY LOVE HER.
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>> KATHRYN WILL JOIN US IN A
BET.
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BUT SENATOR, WHAT HAS IT BEEN
LIKE FOR YOU WATCHING ALL THE
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GUYS TALK ABOUT THE WOMAN THAT
YOU'RE NOW WITH, THE MOTHER OF
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YOUR CHILD?
I MEAN IS THAT AWKWARD TO YOU AT
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ALL?
>> I HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTS.
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ONE IS NOBODY'S ASKING QUESTIONS
OF SHEP, WHITNEY AND CRAIG ABOUT
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THEIR SEX-CAPADES.
AND I'M SURE WHEN SHE DID WHAT
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SHE DID LAST YEAR THAT NOT IN A
MILLION YEARS WOULD SHE HAVE TO
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ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
>> IS THERE A DOUBLE STANDARD
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THAT SHE'S JUDGED AND THE GUYS
AREN'T JUDGED?
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>> ABSOLUTELY.
>>> CIVILHIVALRY IS NOT DEAD.
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>> THE WAY YOU'RE TALKING TO ME,
IT'S KIND OF TEDDEAD.
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>> I THINK KATHRYN IS
EMBARRASSED BECAUSE HE SPENT TEN
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MINUTES TALKING ABOUT HOW HE
LOVED ANOTHER GIRL.
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>> SLEEPING WITH THREE PEOPLE AT
THIS TABLE IN THE COURSE OF
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THREE WEEKS ISN'T CLASS.
SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE XLEPTSCOMMENTS
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ABOUT CLASS.
>> OH, REALLY, THREE PEOPLE?
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NAME THEM.
>> I DON'T NEED TO.
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>> THAT'S DISGUSTING.
>> WHY DIDN'T YOU COME TO
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KATHRYN'S DEFENSE WHEN CRAIG
CALLED HER OUT FOR SLEEPING WITH
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THREE MEN AT THE TABLE?
>> I WAS JUST TOO STUNNED.
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IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING?
I WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS
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ELEVATED EVENT AND IT EVOLVED IN
TO A SCREAMING MATCH.
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I DIDN'T COME TO MY SENSES UP IT
WAS TOO LATE.
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>> WHITNEY, AT THE MEAL, THOMAS
CALLED YOU OUT FOR BEING CLOSED
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MINDED AND INTOLERANT.
AND JUDGMENTAL.
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WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THAT?
>> THOUGHT IT WAS SILLY.
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I MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE A
[ BLEEP ] DINNER PARTY AND THEN
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ARE LIKE I'M GOING TO LECTURE
YOU AT MY DINNER PARTY.
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I KNEW IF I DIDN'T SHOW UP IT
WOULD LOOK WORSE.
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YOU'RE LIKE A SCARY DRUNK.
WAS I JUDGMENTAL OF HIM AT THE
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TIME?
ABSOLUTELY.
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>> I ENJOYED IT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMING FROM A
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REALLY REAL PLACE.
>> HAVE YOU HEARD FROM HER SINCE
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THE SHOW?
>> NO, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT
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ME TO COMMUNICATE WITH HER.
>> I HAVE TO THINK THAT MAYBE
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SHE SAW THAT.
>> SHE DID.
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>> HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL
KNOWING THAT SHE'S SOMEWHERE OUT
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THERE AND SHE VERY WELL COULD
HAVE SEEN YOU SPEAKING SO
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ELOQUENTLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABOUT
HER?
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>> THIS GIRL AND I WERE
INSEPARABLE FOR THREE YEARS.
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MY HEART WAS BATTLING FOR MY
MIND.
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BUT SHE WASN'T THIS PERFECT
PERSON, YOU KNOW.
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SHE WAS THE BEVERAGE CART GIRL.
SO THE DAY BEFORE THE WEDDING, I
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CALLED IT OFF.
I THREW HER AWAY LIKE SHE WAS
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YESTERDAY'S TRASH.
>> I'M SURE SHE SAW IT.
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I DON'T KNOW THAT HER HUSBAND
APPRECIATED.
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AND AGAIN-, KATHRYN DEFINITELY
DIDN'T APPRECIATE IT.
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WE USED TO TALK EVERY COUPLE
MONTHS ON THE PHONE.
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BUT I DECIDED KATHRYN WOULDN'T
APPRECIATE THAT, SO I JUST CUT
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OFF COMMUNICATIONS WITH HER.
IT'S NOT HEALTHY.
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I'VE MOVED ON.
SHE'S MOVED ON.
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I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT
HER ANY MORE.
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>> JUST BEFORE WE CHANGE THE
SUBJECT, I WANT TO SAY, YOU SAY
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YOU'VE MOVED ON, BUT YOUR ENTIRE
DEMEANOR HAS CHANGED.
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I CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE STILL LIKE
A LITTLE EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS
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PERSON.
>> IT WAS TOUGH WHEN I LEFT HER.
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I REMEMBER CALLING MY PREACHER
AND I WAS SOBBING.
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IT'S NOT FUN TO THINK ABOUT IT,
YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED.
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BECAUSE I LOVED HER DEARLY.
AND SO I REALLY HURT MYSELF, YOU
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KNOW, WHEN I DID IT.
>> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME
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TO TAKE A BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
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>>> WE BOTH AGREED THAT IT WAS A
DRUNKEN MISTAKE.
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>> SO WAS SHEP A DRUNKEN
>>> JENNA, WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE
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TO EVERYONE QUESTIONING HOW YOU
MAKE YOUR MONEY AND HOW YOU CAN
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AFFORD TO PAY FOR YOUR HOUSE?
>> WELL, I'M REALLY GOOD AT
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ROLLING THE DIES PLAYING CRAPS.
>> OH, REALLY?
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>> YEAH.
SO I'VE BEEN LUCKY IN VEGAS.
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AND I'VE INVESTED MY MONEY IN
LIKE REAL ESTATE STOCKS WITH
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LOU.
SO I'VE BEEN MAKING MONEY OFF OF
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THAT.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO A 9 TO 5
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JUST YET.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SPECULATED
393
00:28:14,467 --> 00:28:20,066
THAT LOU WAS YOUR SUGAR DADDY.
>> I MEAN HE WOULD BUY ME THINGS
394
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:31,500
LIKE ANY BOYFRIEND WOULD.
HE DIDN'T GIVE ME MONEY.
395
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,734
>> I WOULD FLY MY GIRLFRIEND
AWAY WITH ME EVERYWHERE.
396
00:28:34,734 --> 00:28:36,667
>> THE TWO OF YOU ARE STILL
TOGETHER?
397
00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:52,166
>> NO, WE'RE
>>> WELCOME BACK TO THE SOUTHERN
398
00:28:52,166 --> 00:28:53,567
CHARM REUNION.
CRAIG, AT THE START OF THE
399
00:28:53,567 --> 00:28:56,633
SEASON, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE
A LITTLE ENVIOUS OF THOMAS, SHEP
400
00:28:56,633 --> 00:29:00,600
AND WHITNEY BECAUSE OF THEIR
LIFESTYLES AND MONEY AND WAY
401
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,734
WITH WOMEN.
BUT AFTER SHEP BROKE THE BRO
402
00:29:04,734 --> 00:29:08,233
CODE, AND YOU SAW ALL THE DRAMA
WITH KATHRYN, DID YOU KIND OF
403
00:29:08,233 --> 00:29:12,033
CHANGE YOUR FEELINGS?
>> YEAH, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THESE
404
00:29:12,033 --> 00:29:17,400
GUYS LIVE AN AWESOME LIFE.
THE MONEY THING, I'M DEFINITELY
405
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,033
ENVIOUS.
BUT I THINK I'M FORTUNATE TO GET
406
00:29:20,033 --> 00:29:22,767
TO SEE THESE GUYS HOW THEIR LIFE
CHOICES PANNED OUT, THE
407
00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:27,500
DIRECTION THEY WENT IN.
BUT, YEAH, I'LL TRY TO SKIP JAIL
408
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:35,367
TIME AND TRY TO SKIP LIVING WITH
MY MOM.
409
00:29:35,367 --> 00:29:36,734
>> BESIDES JD, YOU'RE THE ONLY
ONE THAT GETS UP AND GOES TO A
410
00:29:36,734 --> 00:29:37,633
JOB EVERY MORNING.
>> YEAH.
411
00:29:37,633 --> 00:29:39,000
>> DO YOU WISH YOU WERE A
GENTLEMAN OF LEISURE?
412
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,767
>> OF COURSE.
FINANCIAL FREEDOM IS ALWAYS THE
413
00:29:40,767 --> 00:29:44,000
GOAL.
IF I COULD WAKE UP AND TAKE A
414
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,767
JET TO MOROCCO, THAT WOULD BE
AWESOME.
415
00:29:48,767 --> 00:29:50,200
BUT I ENJOY WORKING.
IN ANY FIELD, IF YOU DON'T LIKE
416
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,233
IT, YOU'RE --
>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
417
00:29:55,233 --> 00:30:05,667
THOMAS HAS A REAL ESTATE CAREER
AND I WORK, TOO.
418
00:30:05,667 --> 00:30:07,200
>> I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS
Y'ALL HAVE MONEY FROM YOUR
419
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,166
FAMILY.
EVEN IF YOU NEVER HAD YOUR OWN
420
00:30:13,166 --> 00:30:18,333
MONEY, YOU WOULD STILL BE OKAY.
>> HOW MUCH LONGER BEFORE YOU
421
00:30:18,333 --> 00:30:21,300
FINISH LAW SCHOOL?
>> TWO WEEKS KNOCK ON WOOD.
422
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:25,066
I HAD A FINAL YESTERDAY.
>> WILL YOU STAY IN CHARLESTON?
423
00:30:25,066 --> 00:30:26,767
>> YEAH, I CAN SEE MYSELF
STAYING A FEW MORE YEARS HERE.
424
00:30:26,767 --> 00:30:32,166
I HAVE A FEW CONNECTIONS.
>> YOU COULD WORK FOR SENATOR
425
00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:35,433
RAVENEL.
>> YEAH.
426
00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:36,767
I'LL BE STUDYING FOR THE BAR
THIS SUMMER AND WE'LL SEE WHAT
427
00:30:36,767 --> 00:30:38,000
HAPPENS.
>> YOU COULD BE WHITNEY'S NEW
428
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:46,433
PERSONAL ASSISTANT.
>> AND FROM CALIFORNIA, IS CRAIG
429
00:30:46,433 --> 00:30:53,600
DOWN WITH THE SWIRL.
HE'S THE BEST LOOKING ONE OF ALL
430
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,567
THE GUYS.
>> WHAT IS THE SWIRL?
431
00:30:54,567 --> 00:30:57,033
>> DO YOU LIKE AN
AFRICAN-AMERICAN GAL?
432
00:30:57,033 --> 00:30:58,367
>> OF COURSE.
LOVE ALL GIRLS.
433
00:30:58,367 --> 00:31:06,166
>> THE SWIRL?
>> THE SWIRL.
434
00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:07,133
BLACK AND WHITE SWIRLED
TOGETHER.
435
00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:09,266
YOU'VE GOT A GREAT HAIRLINE,
CRAIG.
436
00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:13,700
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT WENT IN TO DOING YOUR
437
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:15,700
HAIR TODAY?
>> I DRY IT REALLY FAST AND I
438
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:23,467
USE A SCULPTING WAX AND THEN
MESS IT UP.
439
00:31:23,467 --> 00:31:31,266
IF I DO THIS, A LITTLE LATER IT
WILL BE SOFT.
440
00:31:31,266 --> 00:31:35,467
>> CRAIG, YOU'VE BEEN OPENLY
CRITICAL OF KATHRYN AND HER
441
00:31:35,467 --> 00:31:38,467
RELATIONSHIP WITH THOMAS.
BUT A LOT OF VIEWERS HAVE
442
00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:42,400
SPECULATED THAT THAT WAS BECAUSE
KATHRYN REJECTED YOU.
443
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,767
AND NOT YOU LOOKING OUT FOR
THOMAS AS A FRIEND.
444
00:31:46,767 --> 00:31:48,133
>> THOMAS KNOWS I WAS JUST
LOOKING OUT FOR HIM.
445
00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:49,500
EVERYONE ELSE WAS THINKING THE
SAME THING BECAUSE THEY TEXTED
446
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,200
ME.
>> WE ALL KNOW SHE HAS ULTERIOR
447
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:59,266
MOTIVES.
>> SHE WANTS MONEY?
448
00:31:59,266 --> 00:32:00,100
>> NO.
I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
449
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:04,467
I THINK SHE LIKES BEING AROUND
ATTENTION.
450
00:32:04,467 --> 00:32:06,066
AND SHE LOCKED IN THOMAS.
>> SHE WANTS TO BE IN OUR INNER
451
00:32:06,066 --> 00:32:10,500
CIRCLE.
>> YES.
452
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:11,567
>> SHE'S GOING ABOUT IT IN
STRANGE WAY.
453
00:32:11,567 --> 00:32:16,767
>> WE'RE JOINED BY KATHRYN.
NICE TO SEE YOU.
454
00:32:16,767 --> 00:32:25,233
YOU GAVE BIRTH HOW LONG AGO?
>> SHE'S A MONTH TODAY.
455
00:32:25,233 --> 00:32:26,367
>> A MONTH OLD.
KENSINGTON.
456
00:32:26,367 --> 00:32:27,433
WELL, THANK YOU A LOT FOR BEING
WITH US.
457
00:32:27,433 --> 00:32:28,567
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I MISS HER, BUT I'M GLAD TO BE
458
00:32:28,567 --> 00:32:29,500
HERE.
>> NOW ARE YOU FEELING?
459
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:33,033
>> I FEEL GREAT.
STILL IN THE TRANSITION PERIOD,
460
00:32:33,033 --> 00:32:38,000
BUT EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL.
>> AND YOU AND YOUR MAN ARE
461
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,367
HAPPILY EVER AFTER?
>> SO FAR, YES.
462
00:32:39,367 --> 00:32:46,133
>> SO FAR SO GOOD.
>> YOU'VE BEEN A LIGHTNING ROD
463
00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:46,734
ON THE SHOW.
>> YEAH.
464
00:32:46,734 --> 00:32:48,133
TO SAY THE LEAST.
>> THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE
465
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:52,467
SEASON, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN
THIS ROOM WERE REALLY HARSH
466
00:32:52,467 --> 00:32:56,500
CRITICS OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH THOMAS.
467
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,600
WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE
HERE SAID THAT ESPECIALLY HURT
468
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,133
YOU OR DISAPPOINTED YOU?
>> I MEAN A LOT OF THINGS HURT
469
00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:11,500
ME AND DISAPPOINTED ME
THROUGHOUT THE SEASON.
470
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,266
>> WE ALL SAID THINGS THAT MAYBE
UPSET EACH OTHER ON CAMERA.
471
00:33:13,266 --> 00:33:18,567
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE SIGNED UP
FOR.
472
00:33:18,567 --> 00:33:23,166
>> WHAT SPECIFICALLY DID HURT
YOU?
473
00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:27,333
>> EVERY DOUBTING ME THAT I
COULD ACTUALLY HAVE FEELINGS FOR
474
00:33:27,333 --> 00:33:28,400
THOMAS.
THERE IS AN AGE DIFFERENCE, BUT
475
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,700
THERE IS A CAPACITY TO LOVE
SOMEONE NO MATTER HOW OLD THEY
476
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,433
ARE.
THERE WAS DEFINITELY A SPARK
477
00:33:33,433 --> 00:33:35,200
WHEN WE MET AND WE BOTH FELT IT
I'M SURE, YOU KNOW.
478
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,500
>> I THINK WHITNEY WAS THE
HARSHEST CRITIC.
479
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:41,667
>> YEAH.
>> WHY DID YOU CHANGE UP YOUR
480
00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:50,433
STORY ABOUT WHAT YOU TOLD THOMAS
ABOUT WHITNEY AT JD'S PARTY?
481
00:33:50,433 --> 00:33:52,233
>> YOU SAID YOU DID NOT INVITE
HER OVER.
482
00:33:52,233 --> 00:34:01,033
>> PERSONALLY CALLED ME AND
SAID, HI, COME HERE.
483
00:34:01,033 --> 00:34:02,200
I SAID OKAY, I'LL BE THERE AT
12:30.
484
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,200
>> 12:30 AT NIGHT.
>> YOU WEREN'T HITTING ON ME,
485
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:19,700
YOU JUST INVITED ME OVER TO TALK
ABOUT POLITICS.
486
00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:21,233
>> I THINK I WAS FRANTICALLY
SEARCHING FOR A WAY TO COVER IT
487
00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:22,200
UP.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE LIED AND I
488
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:38,767
APOLOGIZE AGAIN.
>> PEOPLE ASK IT ALL THE TIME.
489
00:34:38,767 --> 00:34:46,100
>> WHITNEY, DID YOU CONSPIRE TO
KEEP IT FROM THOMAS?
490
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:47,500
>> I THINK THE IDEA WAS THAT IT
WAS KIND OF UNNECESSARY AND HE
491
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:54,467
DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW AND THEY
WEREN'T GOING OUT.
492
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:58,500
AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEIR
HISTORY OR HER HISTORY.
493
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:00,033
AND WHEN WE DID, IT WAS JUST FUN
IN PASSING AND WASN'T REALLY
494
00:35:00,033 --> 00:35:08,433
THAT SERIOUS.
AND I THINK IT JUST IS
495
00:35:08,433 --> 00:35:12,633
INAPPROPRIATE THAT HE SHOULD
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR
496
00:35:12,633 --> 00:35:13,667
RELATIONSHIP.
IT DIDN'T SERVE ANYTHING.
497
00:35:13,667 --> 00:35:14,767
>> WE BOTH AGREED IT WAS A
DRUNKEN MISTAKE.
498
00:35:14,767 --> 00:35:15,767
>> WAS SHEP A DRUNKEN MISTAKE?
>> NO.
499
00:35:15,767 --> 00:35:22,734
I DON'T KNOW.
HE WAS KIND OF FUN.
500
00:35:22,734 --> 00:35:24,233
>> I HAVE NOTHING BUT GOOD
THINGS TO SAY ABOUT KATHRYN.
501
00:35:24,233 --> 00:35:29,567
I HAD A LOT OF FUN.
>> WE GOT ALONG.
502
00:35:29,567 --> 00:35:33,333
IT WAS ALL ABOUT FUN AND HUMOR.
>> AM I NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO
503
00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:35,533
THINKS THIS IS A VERY AWKWARD
CONVERSATION?
504
00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:39,100
>> THOMAS, HOW DO YOU FEEL
HEARING THEM?
505
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:47,734
>> IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME.
BACK IN MY 20s, IT WOULD HAVE
506
00:35:47,734 --> 00:35:51,633
DRIVEN ME CRAZY.
BUT I'M AN ADULT NOW.
507
00:35:51,633 --> 00:35:53,133
>> WHEN THOMAS OPENED UP ABOUT
HIS PAST FIANCE, YOU STAYED
508
00:35:53,133 --> 00:35:54,567
QUIET.
HOW AWKWARD WAS THAT FOR YOU TO
509
00:35:54,567 --> 00:35:59,567
HEAR?
>> IT WAS KIND OF AWKWARD.
510
00:35:59,567 --> 00:36:03,266
JUST UNCOMFORTABLE AND I THOUGHT
IT WAS A LITTLE DISRESPECTFUL TO
511
00:36:03,266 --> 00:36:04,433
BE SAYING ALL THOSE THINGS RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME.
512
00:36:04,433 --> 00:36:07,266
>> BUT AT THAT POINT I HARDLY
KNEW YOU.
513
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:09,700
WE WERE JUST DATING.
>> IT WASN'T REALLY SERIOUS
514
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:15,433
BETWEEN US AT THAT POINT.
>> OBVIOUSLY I WOULDN'T SAY
515
00:36:15,433 --> 00:36:16,433
ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THIS
POINT.
516
00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:20,000
>> OR FEEL THAT WAY.
>> I FEEL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
517
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,633
NOW ABOUT YOU.
>> YEAH.
518
00:36:22,633 --> 00:36:24,300
>> YOU'RE THE MOTHER OF MY CHILD
AND I LOVE YOU AND I LOVE MY
519
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:29,300
CHILD.
AND I'M HAPPY.
520
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:31,066
>> KATHRYN, WHY DID YOU WANT
YOUR FAMILY TO MEET THOMAS SO
521
00:36:31,066 --> 00:36:38,266
SOON INTO YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
>> WELL, I JUST FELT LIKE MAYBE
522
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:39,633
INTRODUCING HIM EARLY ON WOULD
HELP THEM FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE
523
00:36:39,633 --> 00:36:48,433
WITH THE AGE DIFFERENCE.
>> IS IT WEIRD THAT YOUR DAD AND
524
00:36:48,433 --> 00:36:49,467
THOMAS ARE AROUND THE SAME AGE?
>> NO.
525
00:36:49,467 --> 00:36:50,433
>> THEY WEAR THE SAME STYLE
PANTS.
526
00:36:50,433 --> 00:36:56,734
>> I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT
ACTUALLY.
527
00:36:56,734 --> 00:37:00,500
>> WE GOT A LOT OF TWEETS FROM
VIEWERS WHO THOUGHT YOU DIPPED
528
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:07,033
YOUR PREGNANCY TEST IN BEER.
>> IN BEER?
529
00:37:07,033 --> 00:37:11,767
I CAN SAY THIS HAND ON THE
BIBLE, I DID NOT DO THAT.
530
00:37:11,767 --> 00:37:16,333
I ACTUALLY DID --
>> PEE ON IT.
531
00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:18,400
>> YEAH.
>> WHEN ARE YOU GETTING MARRIED?
532
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,166
>> THERE IS NOTHING ON MY HAND.
>> NICKY FROM INDIANA SAYS DID
533
00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:26,500
KATHERINERYN AND THOMAS GET BACK
TOGETHER BEFORE SHE FOUND OUT
534
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,467
SHE WAS PREGNANT.
>> YES.
535
00:37:28,467 --> 00:37:31,133
ACTUALLY GOT BACK TOGETHER THE
NEXT DAY.
536
00:37:31,133 --> 00:37:33,734
>> YOU DID.
WOW.
537
00:37:33,734 --> 00:37:37,500
>> IT WAS VERY MOVING TO SEE
SPECIFICALLY YOU, THOMAS, HOW
538
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:42,133
BROKEN UP YOU WERE.
I MEAN YOU WERE SOBBING.
539
00:37:42,133 --> 00:37:44,767
AND THAT WAS REAL EMOTION.
>> IT WAS.
540
00:37:44,767 --> 00:37:47,767
I READ AN ARTICLE THE OTHER DAY
THAT SAID THIS WAS SCRIPTED AND
541
00:37:47,767 --> 00:37:50,367
I'M THINKING NONE OF IT WAS
SCRIPTED.
542
00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:53,266
EVERYTHING I SAID, THOSE WITH MY
OWN WORDS, MY OWN THOUGHTS, MY
543
00:37:53,266 --> 00:38:01,000
OWN FEELINGS.
>> THIS CAN'T LAST.
544
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,233
>> WHY?
>> I'M AN OLD MAN.
545
00:38:03,233 --> 00:38:04,633
>> I TOLD THAT YOU DOESN'T
MATTER.
546
00:38:04,633 --> 00:38:07,600
WE'RE IN LOVE, THOMAS.
WE WERE IN LOVE.
547
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,467
HOW IS IT NOT MEANT TO BE THAT
WAY?
548
00:38:11,467 --> 00:38:15,266
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING
AND WHAT I WANT.
549
00:38:15,266 --> 00:38:19,166
>> HOW DOES THE REST OF THE
GROUP FEEL WHEN THEY SAW THOMAS
550
00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:22,133
SOBBING LIKE THAT?
>> THAT WAS THE FIRST POINT WHEN
551
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:29,667
I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOD, THIS IS
LEGITIMATELY REAL.
552
00:38:29,667 --> 00:38:36,400
>> WE WERE LIKE HOLY CRAP.
>> I THINK WHEN PEOPLE
553
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,133
FUNNY.
>> OF COURSE YOU DO.
554
00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:45,734
>> LAUGHING AND HORRIFIED AT THE
SAME TIME.
555
00:38:45,734 --> 00:38:49,500
IT'S A BIT EMBARRASSING TO CRY
ON TELEVISION.
556
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:55,367
>> HE WAS SHOWING TRUE EMOTION.
>> I THINK IT'S GREAT.
557
00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:58,734
>> REAL MEN CRY.
>> I'M NOT A REAL MAN.
558
00:38:58,734 --> 00:39:02,166
>> GOOD FOR YOU, SENATOR.
>> BECAUSE YOU GOT MY VOTE WITH
559
00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:03,033
THOSE TEARS.
>> REALLY?
560
00:39:03,033 --> 00:39:05,633
>> YES.
>> WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK
561
00:39:05,633 --> 00:39:07,000
BREAK.
>>> HOW DRUNK WERE YOU WHEN YOU
562
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:24,600
WENT TO GET THAT REGULAR NANCY
TEST?
563
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,133
>>> SARAH FROM SOUTH CAROLINA
SAYS CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU
564
00:39:28,133 --> 00:39:33,300
BOTH.
I LOVE THE NAME KENSINGTON.
565
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:38,400
WHO CAME UP WITH IT?
>> I DID.
566
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,633
CALHOUN IS A FAMILY FAMILY AND I
LIKE KENSINGTON.
567
00:39:42,633 --> 00:39:48,433
IT'S WHERE PRINCESS DI LIVED.
IT'S NOT A FAMILY NAME.
568
00:39:48,433 --> 00:39:50,233
HE
I JUST REALLY LIKE IT.
569
00:39:50,233 --> 00:39:53,533
>> WE'LL CALL HER KC.
>> HOW HAS BEING A NEW PARENT
570
00:39:53,533 --> 00:40:01,200
CHANGED THE TWO OF YOU?
>> IN SO MANY WAYS.
571
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,367
>> I'LL SAY JUST IN THE PAST TWO
DAYS, SHE'S DONE A COMPLETE 180.
572
00:40:03,367 --> 00:40:08,100
SHE'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT -- I
WAS VERY JUDGMENTAL.
573
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:15,767
AND JUST THE AMOUNT THAT SHE'S
MATURED, I FEEL LIKE IS --
574
00:40:15,767 --> 00:40:24,367
>> I DON'T POSITIONTHINK SHE BEHAVES
OTHER THAN ANYONE ELSE WOULD.
575
00:40:24,367 --> 00:40:28,033
>> WATCHING THE SHOW, I HAD A
LOT OF TIME TO SELF REFLECT AND
576
00:40:28,033 --> 00:40:31,300
REALLY MADE ME REALIZE THE
THINGS I WANTED TO CHANGE AND
577
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:35,533
NOT ONLY THAT, I HAD A BABY.
THAT MAKES YOU WANT TO CHANGE,
578
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:37,367
AS WELL.
SO I REALLY PUSHED FORWARD AND
579
00:40:37,367 --> 00:40:39,567
SAID GOOD-BYE TO MY OLD
LIFESTYLE.
580
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:44,066
AND I JUST -- I'M VERY HAPPY
WITH THE CHANGES THAT -- I FEEL
581
00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:46,467
LIKE --
>> WAY MORE MATURE THAN I AM
582
00:40:46,467 --> 00:40:49,767
NOW.
>> I FEEL LIKE I COME OFF VERY
583
00:40:49,767 --> 00:40:52,200
HARD ON THE SHOW AND I'M MUCH
SOFTER NOW.
584
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,767
>> WHO DOES SHE LOOK MORE LIKE?
>> SHE HAS MY NOSE AND BIG EYES.
585
00:40:55,767 --> 00:41:01,667
I HAVE HUGE EYES.
AND THOSE TERRIBLE EYELASHES.
586
00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:06,400
>> YOU GET A LOT OF FLACK.
>> WE HAVE A PICTURE.
587
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:16,266
>> OH, GOD.
>>> LOOK AT HER WITH THE RAVENEL
588
00:41:16,266 --> 00:41:18,133
BRIDGE.
>> A LITTLE SOUTHERN CHARMER.
589
00:41:18,133 --> 00:41:20,700
>> THAT'S CUTE.
THOMAS, I'M CURIOUS, AS YOU LOOK
590
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:26,433
AT THIS SEASON IN THE REAR VIEW
MIRROR, ANY REGRETS?
591
00:41:26,433 --> 00:41:34,333
>> NO.
>> ONLY THING I LEARNED WHEN I
592
00:41:34,333 --> 00:41:38,133
SAW MYSELF ON TV DRUNK, I
THOUGHT I HAVE TO CUT WAY BACK.
593
00:41:38,133 --> 00:41:41,567
>> HOW DRUNK WERE YOU WHEN YOU
WENT TO GET THAT PREGNANCY TEST?
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00:41:41,567 --> 00:41:45,633
>> TURBO DRUNK.
>> I HAD TO REWIND.
595
00:41:45,633 --> 00:41:47,767
I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
WERE SAYING.
596
00:41:47,767 --> 00:41:50,767
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO
KNOW ABOUT CHARLESTON OR THE
597
00:41:50,767 --> 00:41:53,700
SOUTH THAT MAYBE THEY'RE STILL
NOT GETTING FROM THE SHOW?
598
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:59,200
>> I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT JUDGE
THE SHOW ARE VERY HYPOCRITICAL.
599
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,367
THEY PRESENT THIS CHRISTIAN
LIKE, OH, WE'RE HOLIER THAN THOU
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00:42:04,367 --> 00:42:08,600
KIND OF ATTITUDE WHICH CAN GET
OLD.
601
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600
>> I'VE LIVED HERE FOR LIKE NINE
YEARS.
602
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,734
IT'S --
>> OF COURSE CHARLESTON IS A
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00:42:13,734 --> 00:42:17,433
DRUNKEN CITY.
WE JUST DON'T DO IT ON TV.
604
00:42:17,433 --> 00:42:19,567
THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
>> ALL OUR FRIENDS LOVE THE SHOW
605
00:42:19,567 --> 00:42:22,734
AND IT'S JUST LIKE THEIR LIVES.
AND THEY THINK WE'RE
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00:42:22,734 --> 00:42:29,066
REPRESENTING WELL.
ANYBODY WHO IS AGAINST IT ARE
607
00:42:29,066 --> 00:42:30,633
TOOLS.
>> GREATEST THING TO HAPPEN TO
608
00:42:30,633 --> 00:42:33,233
THEM BEFORE THE SHOW WAS LIKE
THE NEIGHBOR BETTY HAD AN AFFAIR
609
00:42:33,233 --> 00:42:38,433
WITH THE MAN DOWN THE STREET AND
THEY GOT TO GOSSIP.
610
00:42:38,433 --> 00:42:43,633
AND NOW THEY GOSSIP ON TV.
>> EVERYBODY IS DOING IT.
611
00:42:43,633 --> 00:42:46,767
>> WELL, IT WAS SO FUN TO WATCH
YOU ALL THIS SEASON.
612
00:42:46,767 --> 00:42:49,433
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BABY.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WEDDING.
613
00:42:49,433 --> 00:42:51,333
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
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00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:54,300
>> SHEP, SO HAPPY YOUR GAME HAS
IMPROVED.
615
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:56,400
>> WELL, SHARPER.
>> VERY GOOD.
616
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,700
FOR MORE ABOUT SOUTHERN CHARM,
BRAVOTV.COM.
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00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,400
THANKS, GUYS.
54050
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