All language subtitles for subtitles_20240105_071237

Great event.

Okay focus where they are from work.

In the late into your own.

In the noted.

Slight change new respiration range.

Right to hard way.

During are to mine.

Most people.

Going to be given feldman.

One two.

By.

Six seven eight nine.

And.

National have a thing that ever happened like up.

Hands down and hannah earth and or as a on her mouth.

It was the first of its kind of these rebels lot of

cause killing people for no reason.

You could feel the fear just on the tv itself.

Charlie stark where they saw himself as james dean.

A great.

Carol always wanted to be somebody.

She went on to be a star.

I thought oh wow assia hard like broad.

I see really a scared little girl.

The only two people who witnessed what went on more

charles start with her and carol me and everybody

else is ten.

Charlie and carol traveled all the way across the

state of nebraska.

Which finally comes to with climax in wyoming when

he's wrestling with somebody in the middle street

about to kill his twelfth victim and she's about to

see it.

And she sees a police officer or there.

That's where it explodes.

Carol thanks that she's running out of her nightmare.

She is getting away from charlie.

She's thinking i have to get to this man.

I have to get to police officer and this half the end.

It was not to capture she had escaped.

She escaped she saw a cop car.

He was arm she ran on a zigzag pattern to think of last.

I found the police cars exhaust char star for law school.

Course they arrested her.

When carol when into custody in wyoming she could

have fought extradition back to nebraska but again

she's a fourteen year old child.

She has know what's going on and they didn't give her a lawyer.

He signed extradition papers.

She said.

I thought i had to sign something so i can leave and go

home to mom.

She does.

I want to go back to nebraska someone or to see your mother.

Right then is when for next nightmare began.

When she first got into the chant she became

hysterical probably because she was relieved you

now and then she can laugh at all out.

She said worse my mother where's my mother.

Why does that my mother call me when as you gonna call

me and hey so have fun sheriff half lens wife said well

you know right.

Now.

The lines are very busy and on.

I'm sure they'll be calling you later and then she

said to harassment.

I don't think she knows her family's dad.

This is teflon would not leave carol alone for almost

the entire time that she was in wyoming.

Carroll said don't leave me don't leave nice gonna

come and get me and mrs have would say he can't catch you.

He's in jail.

Now he will i own you know he will he will.

And that's when she got the hypodermic needle.

Because she was so hysterical.

And it knocked her out so that she slept for seventeen hours.

Well by the time the prosecutors scott pr to talk to

her she was out of that.

And nobody has the courage to tell her that her

parents are dead.

Everybody just keep saying later carol later reason

until she's in gearing nebraska that drew kind of

just very cold legions where were goes well don't you

know carol.

They're dead.

And that's when carroll said you're lying to me.

They're not dead.

They're not dead they're not dead.

They're not dead.

She was still a very very confused at that point.

She said what are all these people talking about my

family's alive and then assume when i get back when i

see my sister are male what happened when i see barb.

She was still holding on to the how.

They were taken back separately extradited back to nebraska.

When charlie stark weather was arrested and carroll

was capture it was sort of like a win for the police department.

Current open she'll they got their man.

They're driving back.

A key thing that must have spoiled it was when charlie

stark whether admitted to killing culver.

He did that on the drive back.

Elmer she'll and charles current up.

They knew they were still under a lot of pressure.

What was going to be revealed to the public was

further stain on their reputation further stayed on

the police department.

This was a huge story known everywhere.

They should have gotten charlie the month before in

december when you murdered somebody else.

They certainly had enough information other

witnesses other evidence but they hadn't in.

Charlie himself was kind of teasing them about that.

And carol left close behind for them for them to find.

At the bartlett house.

Carol made the note that said we're sick with the flu

don't come in and then at the bottom road miss

bartlett and she underlined miss bartlett three

times and the reason she did.

This was it was a way of sending signals are people out

in the world without charlie recognizing it.

Because carol went by few get her mother went by mrs

bartlett which was more important that that time mrs bartlett.

The only miss bartlett in house was this two year old

half sister of hers.

And of course she couldn't have written a note like

that and so that was the reason she underlined or

three times to simply say that people something is wrong.

And the police were just like i you're crazy.

We're not going to go investigate that any further.

The so she got out there saying to people hey.

I left clues bind that made them look all the worse.

It became more and their own personal best interest

to prosecutor because of the fact that then it turns a

narrative away from why didn't.

They catch these people to look at this forty year old

girl and look it's the new bonnie and clyde.

The public when they saw charlie here was a teenage murderer.

Cigarette hanging hours wow.

Roth luck and she fell apart so there was all sympathy

for charles dark weather and this date.

When she was brought back for the most part the

prosecution just simply new they didn't have to go to

the press.

The press was coming to them say which are simply say.

We charge her with accessory a murder and fed them

little bits and pieces of evidence just from one

single point of view so like when you look at those

early pictures of her when she's being brought back.

The reporters are you wanting to talk to her but

they've rolled up all windows and they won't let her

speak to anybody and they wouldn't even let anybody

tell her what they're reporting.

Most of the thatcher's that i've taken.

Or done with this camera.

Dieting fifty just got out of school and came to a job

where's the like in star.

My primary job is to take fill not stills pressuring

stills and movies.

This is a picture of caroline few good.

Here like and.

Public opinion on nebraska time was horribly

against carolina feel good.

Ninety nine percent of the people in the state felt

that she was a willing accomplice.

When she was brought back to town she arrived in

lincoln at night.

And they put air in that mental institution.

She still really was unclear about her family.

One of the things that that we often see when people

experience profound psychological trauma is that

there's this.

Intense almost desperate attempt to hold on to help.

It didn't register with her that they were all dad and child.

She saw her sister in the mental institution.

And she said are they dad bar been.

She said yes carol they are and she said that was the

time i knew that they were dead because they knew my

sister would never lie to me.

Coroner's court.

Robbery or reboot.

World.

Are.

You.

We're here.

Cool.

To me.

He told me.

I.

He told me.

The for.

The book.

There are no but you better.

Right.

To photo.

I wanted to get for worried it.

Nightmare.

Or whatever.

Very rude don't worry i feel oh really.

Well i blame up believe it the.

I know.

I don't know.

I didn't know at night.

Oh pat.

When they told me.

Didn't you.

Does it.

The was the are but my family and i.

For it now.

I.

And then.

Oh god grant don't you know.

The.

David.

Huh.

I.

But.

It.

It.

I really enjoyed true crime and i enjoy murder

mysteries knowing what's behind murder through

horrible things.

And i began reading.

About charles stark weather and i thought wow that

was a bad guy you know he killed eleven people and kill people.

Even even now.

And his girlfriend went with him and i thought she

must be horrible.

She must be just like years she must have been on a

little tramp just out she handed her parents.

I mean she passed and smoked and did all that what a

horrible girl.

But then i started.

Thinking about things i thought this is really

strange like to.

I really don't know this young woman.

And really that's what drew me in.

I wanted to get to know her.

I ordered the trial transcripts.

When i read carols trial i read and over and over again

and ah.

I said.

John macarthur proved this girl's innocence what happened.

It was after two years.

I really wanted to write a book.

I've never read more and my life.

It took me fifteen years to write this book.

I was drawn to carol because i never in my life would

have thought.

Police officers or prosecutors are charges.

Twin would do wrong fangs.

They just don't do that.

When i first met her i stayed at her apartment with her

and i brought my record or up than so.

She had an apartment a lovely apartment.

She so she says a wonderful seamstress so she made

everything all her current news.

She made the the bedspread everything.

And she had this bird flying lose.

I've always been afraid of birds and that bird was

flying around everywhere.

Because she told me i will never have anything cage in

my house and i thought i get it back.

Yeah.

When she's speaking with her sister i had given carol

a blank recorder and i said here's what i'd like you

didn't do.

Just sit down with barb have a nice chat and run the record.

At splash.

I'm linda my such or not.

We're just gonna talk and then know we'll just let you

edited put it where you in the area.

You think it belongs.

Or father was an alcoholic.

He had that personality or jekyll and hyde.

He never really knew what our dad was gonna be like

until he opened the door and came in.

So my mom would ever tied in the closet.

Most about was verbal abuse.

Then this one time he physically guardian weather.

Carroll's birth father or he was arrested several times.

One was corrupting a minor that's a nice way of saying

he had sex with a minor.

Nothing was stable you come home from school and your

whole house would be packed and but boxes.

Most drive around it because we were a bit.

Is so they moved around a lot until she got married the

second time.

And i can remember my mother was telling me that one

did the best things that happened to build.

That was when she married.

Miriam.

She loved marion and called him father because she

said i never had a father until he married my mother

and after betty shane was born every time marion by

betty genes something he bought barb and carol

something to and he said these aren't my step daughters.

These are my daughter's.

These are my children.

Okay carol told me the for mind that you remember

charlie and how you know them.

For time many my sister brought body down.

Actually debated and we go to drive ins.

We like to go jerry jones yeah.

And now we will see this one.

Hey.

And after briefly that he it was like.

I could not open the door to her our not from the door in

the not run back and i'd wait somebody opened the door.

I just could not open that door because i do the math behind.

Did you think charlie really cool.

Yeah in the beginning are merely year.

Get your money here.

Like game that day yeah he was his body was funny.

When nice smile.

His whole face with like.

It also gave yourself of when you're that age of them.

There's an old boy is interested in you.

Mate know why.

You're worth something.

There were numerous times that he would ask me to

marry him and are telling my too young for.

I did not even know what what was.

Did you ever notice charlie changing at any time carol.

Yeah he did.

I started withdrawn from it because he started

fantasizing more and it all that he would get a better

job of he.

He said he had their.

He would say why.

He was born too late that he should have been born back

when was still one.

It hit him his where he had him accusing me of things

you know.

I started going into this accusation fast like just

driving range or did you say it's for or wanted to talk

to and it was like he was trying to all.

Every minute of my breathing exist.

So she told charlie but and watches him anymore and

she told her mother to tell charlie if you came around

when she wasn't air out to come around anymore when i

woke up with him and he left that funny.

I never ever again the.

Charles berkeley.

The basically put so much of his own life into her and

that's why when she broke up with i'm.

He fell apart.

When this happened.

And i whole lot with school that day.

The door.

There was a monster but the door.

Her mother was never never not at home when carol came

home from school so she believed him immediately

when he said i've kidnapped her parents and you're

younger sister.

Girl what i you when you turn on go on to tuesday.

The door when i one day.

I don't remember whether he got to not.

Coming down on the counter terrorism out to my folks

but never gone.

And we're talk about story it.

Was during this time.

The told me my controller.

They already have fun thunder and what he told it

would be heard.

Then he told her his friends for right outside the

door to her house to so she tried to escape.

They would shoot her.

She said you're crazy what is saw that your you're a

fool what are you talking about.

He said sit down and she said no.

I'm not going to sit down and then he slapped just so

hard that she had to sit down and she told me.

I didn't know who that person was.

That was not a stark when they're.

I know.

Then what do you do.

Like elevator.

It would be five days in the house.

Carol really was in a fog.

She was just so afraid of of being there with him.

He wouldn't let her out of the house.

The only time you would allow her out of the house was

to collect now and then he would always be watching her.

She said not a lot happened.

They watched a lot of t v.

But in the meantime there are three bodies on the

sheds are back.

No no no don't go you know welcome.

They're not.

Yet you have a new bachelor their own.

We talked with the miranda rights that didn't happen

until the nineteen sixties and so there's no a

definite right that you had to be given a journey and

it's but typically people new to ask for one by a

fourteen year old.

Child doesn't know anything about that so the police

came in knowing that they had already press charges.

I never told their pressing charges against or

anything she saying can and will be used against her

in court pretending.

They're just getting information my charlie but

really building the casing answer.

Hello darling darling you were in know now that

they're good you.

Federal a troll strong.

I don't think so.

I know to own.

Do you know what i'm in.

She has no problem bring in all this up.

To show in their view that she was a hostage that there

was a real romantic and sexual relationship gone on.

Video loading a time have been scheduled for you now

your first.

No.

I don't know what you mean.

I don't think they had a clue what being a fourteen

year old little girl us about plus.

They had a preconceived idea about care all that she

was a tramp and bad she had experience sacks switch

back then in the fifties that was horrible.

I mean you couldn't even be an unwed mother back in the fifties.

Dr good news king.

I've been your short order.

Yeah.

I didn't remember far.

Gordon slightly.

Over thirty to launch he got in don't.

He devoted and by less than his era.

That was the reason in and phone.

It hurt.

Gl farm broke the prosecutor.

He was severely are you interested in her sex life

with stark weather.

For some reason.

It you know now that she was in a dog.

She said he was damp and he couldn't have any reaction.

But i didn't know that at that age.

Don't you know i mean.

He also told me earlier told the trial run the way to

wyoming a you loved to that true.

Yeah.

I did you tell him that on the monitor.

And when we're reason to tell them that.

Our freddie mercury.

It would actually not me but.

Dave out via oh boy.

Some only battered.

By a job.

Who did not take into consideration that is what our

trial join the best they could to relate to pay up.

Oh which had faith.

And how many times when you know anything even know

where he went away.

I'll have to that of the night.

The car they are putting all of that.

Earlier type.

Charles thinking my family was being held by

charlie's gang robbers.

And that he has i tried to get away or warned her do this

or that he would have them killed.

To protect themselves or response that people will

have an extreme trauma as tonic immobility.

This is if the body or the in this case.

The mind is just frozen.

And it can be something where is literally

physically just collapsing.

But it can also be a situation where it's more of a

mental state of just being completely unable to make

the ordinary decisions to think things through to

see things in the way that won't ordinarily does.

Sometimes animals that have been caught as pray by a

predator will just go limp.

It almost looks like they're feigning death and

sometimes they will actually almost have no heart rate.

The predators would just drop the prey.

And go do something else.

Charlie originally said carol had nothing to do it

any the killings.

The law houses are bob house.

Okay okay.

I'm all about for that afternoon.

At all or alive and they they were software.

I was all it's our about what but house where they go a

while for said a day with days were burnt fast.

At that point he still had not turned quite against

carol even though he gave different confessions

here and there.

But he wanted to see her tail feinberg and elmer

she'll would be talking to her and they said now she doesn't.

Wanna see you will they now you can't see her period anyway.

To codefendants there are not permitted to speak to

each other.

They can't see each other.

They can't write to each other.

They can't pass messages to each other.

It was and time like she'll sevilla you know maybe we

could get a letter to care off.

So on february seventh charlie write this letter to

carol and it is such a casual kind of letter.

She had not seen charlie sense or they were on the road

since she'd seen him kill.

All these people.

February so much and fifty.

They're girl power.

Okay i'll.

They said i cannot say you to have a hit don't talk show.

I'm hoping i can see that.

That is no would want to see me.

I'm sorry about your mom dad sister.

I would like to know something.

Did you think that i would have killed you when we go to washington.

I told you.

I couldn't.

I shoot you if i had do.

One more thing.

I would like to know them things you are saying.

We were on the road like when i asked you if you hate me hey.

I think you know the rest and more.

What you just give me a line or was you.

Right back if you will push.

Jerk.

Ps you know damn well.

I would never shoot you.

Champ.

I don't want to see you.

As am i do you handle now be for later on.

Omer she'll brought to charlie the know from carol

saying that she didn't want to see and while.

Charlie's in the bad mood also said and by the way

she's been saying that you're crazy as a one

dangerously did not want anybody to ever say about.

I'm let alone his ex girlfriend the girl who he

thought he had control over.

But her facilitate added that the cops and

prosecutors they wanted to turn him against her.

She is practicing riding a ladder on the back page and

judge ferry spencer's stationary.

For you just don't go out and get a judge is stationary.

He had to give it to somebody.

This just isn't legal malpractice.

This is evil.

They want her to be put into press and they wanted her

to be guilty.

He thought his or hers is now.

I love was gonna go out with me a blaze of glory.

James dean the whole thing and she's turning on me.

So he's like okay we'll let me tell you what really

happened and that's when he started saying that she

committed these murders.

And that's when his story change every single time he told.

Joe.

Trial today when the attitude of an interesting bystander.

Charles trials interesting in fact they were

charging him with first degree murder for the

killing of robert.

Johnson.

They picked the jensen murder to prosecute because

they felt that was the easiest one to prove.

There was such a just a position between this

seventeen year.

Old.

Student council president and hair was charlie.

State your full name please.

Start with how are you draw not again.

Charlie wanted to plead not guilty by reason of all

the killings work in self defense.

Now that one's a stretch.

Charlie do you feel any remorse or sorrow for these

people that you kill our.

Hands are there but you don't feel that everyone a man

that would kill you kill and saw match zachariah.

The was i.

Charlie's journey is that a total loss as to what to do

three things while there is another person there.

And if she was the one manipulating him then must

point the finger at her and say that charlie was a

victim of manipulation.

So from then on the defense attorneys whole

reasoning in charlie's trial was it carols fault.

The prosecution also known that they're going to be

trying girl soon instead of fighting in some suddenly.

They're both in agreement.

Yeah is carol fault and they went both right along

with it.

Now.

No.

How about them started going to carol.

My family was force behind and an online center around.

And so much of what people now believe happened comes

from that comes from this trial where there was

nobody representing girl few gate.

During that trial charlie testified.

And blamed carol am few game for jail and cheryl.

Che charlie and your conversion pertain to the jazz

case right after you left the kid out there.

I think your conversion servant you are mad at care

about somebody.

We're we're we're mad at her about her or.

And what did you do that.

Yeah okay.

Hey sean carroll game.

Which was a bombshell.

The courtroom just was dawn.

A smiling nodding charles dog when i walked out of the

lancaster county district court room.

A little after three o'clock.

This afternoon.

I'm an order to die in the electric chair during

members ordered the death penalty.

An nineteen year old former lincoln garbage

collector took the verdict with the apparent

indifference that it marked his manner throughout

the trial.

Come.

On.

Women are a time with theoretical.

I'm smiling.

What a regular when a child i'd be jolly better way

they a desire round.

Whenever i am very hard way with how bad weather and

wouldn't have a problem a good man.

There was absolutely no doubt going into this that

troll stark weather was gonna be convicted.

There was more of a question about whether carol

would be convicted of first degree murder or a lesser charge.

But in all likelihood that the i had been had been cast

at that point.

Nobody those jury rooms didn't know about this case.

The general feeling in the public there's no

question they absolutely believed girl was guilty.

Mellow the police were very strongly wanting to see

her convicted.

There's so much pressure against carol.

The crime was so horrific involve so many people and

very prominent people.

That is just wasn't good enough that just one person

stark where there be found guilty.

If the crime is so horrific republican it seems to be

man that the perpetrators be as broad as a crime

itself is.

She was the juvenile and should have been tied in

juvenile court.

The statute was very very clear on now.

It was as if there was the task that assumption among

the chargers and the prosecutors that we're going to

go for her.

We were really made fun of you now because we couldn't

catch stark whether there's a guy in our face.

So i think it was what what sacrifices young girl for a

couple years.

Just gonna get out eventually.

There were certain factors at play when this happened.

Both elmer she'll and shove current up were up for

reelection that here.

I think of all the participants on the prosecution

side county journeyed she'll probably would have

been the most vulnerable.

He could very well have wound up losing his position

had carol been acquitted.

The fact of the matter is the police were under

incredible pressure.

Not everybody necessarily played fair.

Wyoming where carol and charlie were caught when

authorities from nebraska came they came with the idea.

That kara was guilty.

They were making accusations against kara which

couldn't possibly have been true.

Then of course as a matter of that she had written a

node tissues me held hostage.

She wrote a note saying how police don't ignore.

And she kept that in her pocket.

And her intention was when she was able to to pass that

on to somebody.

They found it in wyoming in the pocket of the jacket

she was wearing and mrs have flynn.

She was helped her husband put the various pieces of

evidence in a box.

And send it all back to the sheriff match here.

She was disgusting to learn that all the evidence

except for one piece that was a note came back here.

I think i was there when they opened everything up in

nebraska and someone like.

Oh.

How police don't ignore what i know that us.

It was deep sachs.

When my grandfather became her attorney she just

started talking about charlie and he goes okay.

That's all good.

But when he should start preparing for your case and

she's when what are you talking about in nieces will

be charged you and she was when you try my.

I didn't do.

Charlie did all the stuff and my grandfather.

The tell her that her life with are more.

Internet beaver who goes to him and his like hey we

need to start telling the public more about her.

They're hearing all of these rumors and all these

things from charlie.

My grandfather kept putting it off because of the

fact that he didn't want the trial to be all about

through the newspapers.

But she finally was able to convince some because the

rumor was getting spread around.

The carroll was pregnant and she's like we have to put

her on camera so people see.

She isn't pregnant.

No no she was wonderful.

She's like a pioneer in nebraska television show pictures.

The first female tv reporter.

Nothing i've ever been there in our national

television before.

And that's when they got a chance to do it as was a

feature that was shown and film for the day show.

Physically or her hair was redone.

She'd never had these clothes on before this was all a

new look.

If anything they made her look too old payment they

they made her look like a woman who was ten years older

than to which was a very very bad move.

My grandfather was a little worried that on national

television she was going to get really emotional so

he told her don't let anything rattle.

You don't get too excited cetera.

Instead of letting herself get emotional choose

when stone cold and all of her answers were very

robotic have you with him for quite awhile.

Now vibrant will don't really have a foreign land.

I gotten my don't want them come back.

My dad and i couldn't imagine i bring my the new one.

I've had.

When.

I didn't want to know having crime hi.

Henry tremendous crowd can remember back to manage.

I'm i'm kinda google dot com the grapevine going to

have one more time and middle of the.

And we knew then that you were gonna go on.

Now i didn't.

You know when.

Now after that.

I'd rather.

Die learning a little to promote and.

What they heard wasn't as important as what they were

seeing which was the stone cold woman and even though

she's a girl they just saw her as a woman and they just

became more convinced that she was a killer browser

dead and have compassion time and time again.

The bathroom know it.

And i'm in nebraska a villain comes in at ten and can.

Crowd got out of the crime and ended up going.

To were a man with a down on your lap finding to run get

away at that.

I've been with him.

One hundred grand the i know how to die.

Love ago.

People just thought she was on emotional uncaring

and it was easy for them then to couple her with charlie.

Ptsd is really a physiological neurobiological

shift into survival mode.

For a person with posttraumatic stress disorder in

some ways it's actually safer to feel nothing then.

It is to feel potentially overwhelmed with anger

distress fear sad as they can be very overwhelming.

When hi.

A lot of rumors right after you were brought back that

can you were expecting a baby at the time he recanted

have you have been to billion now than i've never been pregnant.

I've never had a baby.

It was a public relations disaster.

This was a shock the public when they saw her and her

her interview.

They they just.

She looks like she could have participated in

everything that happened.

An existing.

Parallel you gave him the seem like the central

figure out a first degree murder trial as she added

the courthouse or had clinched tightly and that of

mrs merkel.

Carnauba shares white.

Why didn't share of corn up have to do a perp walk with

carol few the in every day down and the street.

He got a park right up at the courthouse steps and let

her out.

His media savvy was incredible.

He put carol on the front page every single day in a way

that any lawyer would not want their defendant to be seen.

That kind of stuff isn't done today for a reason.

The fifteen year old few days that quietly in a

courtroom seemingly swallowed up any oversight of lawyers.

Chair go for his detention are perpetually pouty face.

Mm service when we live in the driveway where were you

holding anyway.

Or on your lap.

Another shot.

Right.

Well we do.

Are.

You going the restaurant there.

Lot your site for guadalupe a that.

When he was out there were wow.

I came out and trolleys trial.

L a lot was does she have opportunity get away was.

She's accomplice are not accomplice but in her trial

is where that became a really big issue.

He could have easily exonerated her and got her off quicker.

Maybe it was a few years and and reformatory.

Now he he was dead set that she abandoned him.

She betrayed him and he would do anything he needed to

do to take her down with him.

Have you been announced that charlie was going to be

the next witness.

At a certain point everybody stopped listening to

anything else that was going on in the trailer their

time and the all day all the i can login the door.

It was like the sick fascination truly start by

there's gonna be here.

Pk man he was announced and doors open amy you might as

well have been prince walking him.

The last time carol and seen charlie was in wyoming

when she had run from them and jumped into the police

car and since then she had learned that he had killed

or family.

When she saw that star quite now was going to take a

stand she dug her nails into the rest of her the wire

and she told me.

She said he must have been bleeding linda because i

dug in a dog and i did not take my nails off of him until

stark weather was off the stand.

A java we'll tell us what is the fact that reference to

the story about her parents being held hostage.

Story.

For made up of store.

While you are staying at my little.

There.

Was a true good reference to you all the garage.

But i.

You have any idea why girl didn't make an effort to get

away from you.

Now.

Right here.

I hope to god to get things idea and then to call it the hand.

I'm doing overland a junior.

It appeared at the time hearing lot and i rely on lip

reading and their your body language eating.

It's very complicated.

I don't fully understand how i do it.

My doctor never understood.

The post and are we talking about today you having a

new data talking that are not be noted that i'll have

to for.

I departed three hours we out to the perimeter.

And the day the town.

What are they going to do on a good idea that they don't.

The fun.

Relax confident there is no way to thirteen combined

go to you can have that.

Level of a molten if you think something bad would

think to did something bad when we think dump them bad.

Gonna happen to.

I do know that my grandfather was pretty certain that

she would be convicted.

Yeah no faith really that the people of nebraska who

would treat her fairly.

Getting charlie wasn't enough.

They wanted more blood.

A lot of the other testimony charlie gave they felt

that he lied and many different things and i wasn't

such a concern but what they did believe was that she

had ample opportunity to get away from him and did not

and that sensed that guilty.

Verdict on carol anne.

And she's i think the youngest gallas ever been

sentenced to life in united states.

History.

She liked it initially the way a lot of people would

just breaking and crying but then she just looked at

the jury and said if you really thought.

I was guilty why didn't you give me the chair.

She was a scapegoat because law enforcement did a

very poor job tracking down these kids and that if

they did found out that charlie killed culvert a

month or so earlier just never will happen.

It a kind of a union collective unconscious.

There is a need to blame the woman.

You could color eve you can color delilah but by god

you're gonna blame.

The woman has was gonna happen.

People blame the woman people love to blame the woman.

First she believes you saving her parents lived as

you believe she was going to get killed.

Who would have been that brave.

Oh anybody you talk to what a full i would have escaped.

Well.

I would have known what to do.

Shell.

For quite awhile carroll has been rebuking charlie

saying that she would want to see him.

But then when his execution date is coming up she

started saying no charlie you need to recant all you

need to say.

I didn't do those things you know.

I didn't do those things.

People just simply believe whatever he said they're

hanging on his every word and so if he recanted that

would go a long way.

And he's just ignoring her.

Mr and mrs both dog weather.

I wanted you know i did everything.

I pulled my loyalty.

Charles where the not fucking it.

Can you tell him to tell the truth about my family's dog.

If you could get him to do about how and be out are

grateful and it will help him.

Thank you.

He died.

So careless you get his writing to anybody who might

have any possible control over his execution.

She even wrote a telegram to the president of the

united states.

Stop weather will be advocated tomorrow.

I been denied by gov broke the request of the home and

phoebe will tell the truth in front of a minister or

someone else.

It would be fair a body of executed.

I know you are very busy but please help me in any way

you can thank you oh and from god.

Of course this in many ways makes her look bad because

it looks like she is defending.

You know her boyfriend when in fact she's really

doing is trying to say hey he knows the truth.

He knows he's telling a lie.

I can talk him into telling the truth but i need more time.

The doctor who was going to.

Be there to pronounce death keel over at a heart

attack right before they were taken him.

Well as that tobacco was banning in front of a yeah no

awarded already had air and a million.

Here he died almost immediately.

He would have been wander around or good day.

Yesterday was diverted remembering it.

That made it someone else have to step in certain way

to become the doctor.

The weather severely may up a law enforcement

officer that of courage.

And there's let the public good.

And i suppose i got on because i do both ways.

They came to aim and charlie said how much time to have

left and guard or whatever said fifteen minutes and

charlie said well.

I guess i sit down and then he put a small plastic cross

in his right palm.

Chaplin klein read the twenty third psalm to him.

And they've taken to the execution chamber.

As the execution gets closer and closer you think.

You at now how do it now.

I can't go to his staff with a lie on his soul.

He was the only person in the world.

Knew.

She with not healthy.