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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,444 --> 00:00:11,489 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:12,708 sexually based offenses 3 00:00:12,751 --> 00:00:15,058 are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:15,102 --> 00:00:17,495 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:17,539 --> 00:00:19,323 who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:19,367 --> 00:00:20,716 are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:20,759 --> 00:00:22,848 known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:22,892 --> 00:00:24,546 These are their stories. 9 00:00:26,287 --> 00:00:28,419 - Ms. Palma, you claimed my client 10 00:00:28,463 --> 00:00:30,204 groped you on the dance floor? 11 00:00:30,247 --> 00:00:32,467 - Yes, I had to smack him away. 12 00:00:32,510 --> 00:00:34,121 - With one hand, because your other hand 13 00:00:34,164 --> 00:00:35,557 was holding a vodka and soda? 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,777 How many drinks in were you at this party? 15 00:00:38,821 --> 00:00:41,737 - Objection, Valentina Palma isn't on trial here. 16 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:43,086 Ian Hunter is. 17 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:44,218 - Testing my patience, Ms. Calhoun. 18 00:00:44,261 --> 00:00:45,828 - Moving on. 19 00:00:45,871 --> 00:00:48,309 After my client groped you, 20 00:00:48,352 --> 00:00:51,399 didn't you ask him for a ride home? 21 00:00:51,442 --> 00:00:53,096 - It was late. 22 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:55,751 I didn't feel safe taking the subway to the Bronx. 23 00:00:55,794 --> 00:00:58,406 - And did Ian drive you home? 24 00:00:58,449 --> 00:01:00,538 - Yes, but to his house, not mine. 25 00:01:00,582 --> 00:01:02,323 - To his parents' house in West Hampton. 26 00:01:02,366 --> 00:01:04,586 Why didn't you tell him to turn around? 27 00:01:04,629 --> 00:01:06,805 - I fell asleep in the car. 28 00:01:06,849 --> 00:01:08,677 - But you were awake enough to enter his beach house 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,375 and have sex. - It wasn't sex. 30 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:14,639 I said no. - No to getting in his car? 31 00:01:14,683 --> 00:01:17,555 No to going in the house? 32 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:20,384 Or no to having sex with a young man 33 00:01:20,428 --> 00:01:21,777 you didn't realize had raped you 34 00:01:21,820 --> 00:01:24,214 until two months later? - Objection, badgering. 35 00:01:24,258 --> 00:01:25,781 - Sustained. Last time, Counselor. 36 00:01:25,824 --> 00:01:27,304 - It was two months, wasn't it? 37 00:01:27,348 --> 00:01:29,785 - Yes, but I-- - Thank you. 38 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:33,615 Nothing further. 39 00:01:33,658 --> 00:01:35,356 40 00:01:35,399 --> 00:01:38,489 - You've been there before. You've got this, Liv. 41 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:41,275 Captain says it's getting ugly. She testifies next. 42 00:01:41,318 --> 00:01:42,711 - Carisi should have never let Suffolk County 43 00:01:42,754 --> 00:01:44,191 take the case first. 44 00:01:44,234 --> 00:01:46,193 - Yeah, but he can try Ian on forceable touching-- 45 00:01:46,236 --> 00:01:48,151 in Manhattan, four years tops. 46 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:50,327 It's 15 years for rape in Suffolk County. 47 00:01:50,371 --> 00:01:51,807 - If he's convicted. 48 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:55,332 Preppy boy charged with raping a South Bronx Latina 49 00:01:55,376 --> 00:01:58,161 in the snow white East End. Calhoun's defending him. 50 00:01:58,205 --> 00:02:00,511 It makes me nervous. 51 00:02:00,555 --> 00:02:04,167 - As we both know, the fact that Valentina 52 00:02:04,211 --> 00:02:08,563 didn't disclose for two months is not at all unusual. 53 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:11,653 - If that's true, why didn't Manhattan take the case? 54 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:13,611 - Because the more serious charges were here. 55 00:02:13,655 --> 00:02:16,223 - Not because your DA knew you had no real evidence? 56 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:18,225 - Objection. - Withdrawn. 57 00:02:18,268 --> 00:02:20,618 Thank you, Captain Benson. 58 00:02:21,924 --> 00:02:24,405 - Prosecution rests. - Very well. 59 00:02:24,448 --> 00:02:26,363 Defense ready to proceed? - We are. 60 00:02:26,407 --> 00:02:29,279 But at this time, we move for a trial order motion 61 00:02:29,323 --> 00:02:30,498 for dismissal. 62 00:02:30,541 --> 00:02:33,196 Prosecution failed to make a case. 63 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,807 No rape kit, delayed police report-- 64 00:02:35,851 --> 00:02:37,200 - Thank you, Counselor. 65 00:02:37,244 --> 00:02:39,724 I'll consider your motion during recess. 66 00:02:39,768 --> 00:02:42,553 - Is that motion bad? - No, it's a routine move. 67 00:02:42,597 --> 00:02:44,207 Defense attorneys do it at every trial. 68 00:02:44,251 --> 00:02:46,818 - It's a Hail Mary. Rita Calhoun is worried. 69 00:02:46,862 --> 00:02:49,299 She knows that if she puts Ian on the stand, 70 00:02:49,343 --> 00:02:51,910 the jury is gonna see right through his smirk. 71 00:02:51,954 --> 00:02:54,783 - Todo está bien, Valentina. 72 00:02:56,915 --> 00:02:58,830 - So your friend Rita, huh? 73 00:02:58,874 --> 00:03:00,658 I think she grew another dorsal fin during quarantine. 74 00:03:00,702 --> 00:03:01,833 - Oh, it was always there. 75 00:03:01,877 --> 00:03:04,271 I think that she just had it sharpened. 76 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:05,881 - Judge Gallagher wants everybody in. 77 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:12,757 - In "he said, she said" cases, almost by definition, 78 00:03:12,801 --> 00:03:14,977 there is reasonable doubt. 79 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,501 Before this accusation, this exemplary young man 80 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:19,024 Ian Hunter, had already been accepted 81 00:03:19,068 --> 00:03:22,332 to Vanderbilt Law School, but you, Ms. Palma, 82 00:03:22,376 --> 00:03:25,335 disrespected your scholarship to Tompkins Square University 83 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:26,989 by binge drinking at a party. 84 00:03:27,032 --> 00:03:30,297 Then, after asking Mr. Hunter for a ride home 85 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:32,951 and willingly entering his house, 86 00:03:32,995 --> 00:03:35,519 you waited two months to decide you'd been raped. 87 00:03:35,563 --> 00:03:37,347 I have no way of knowing 88 00:03:37,391 --> 00:03:38,696 what actually happened that night, 89 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:41,656 but I do know that I can't let this court 90 00:03:41,699 --> 00:03:44,441 cavalierly destroy Mr. Hunter's future. 91 00:03:44,485 --> 00:03:48,271 I've heard the evidence presented by the prosecution, 92 00:03:48,315 --> 00:03:50,665 and I find it legally insufficient 93 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:53,624 to establish the offense charge therein, 94 00:03:53,668 --> 00:03:56,497 therefore I am granting the defense motion 95 00:03:56,540 --> 00:03:58,803 to dismiss the indictment. 96 00:04:02,938 --> 00:04:04,940 - Thank you, Judge Gallagher. 97 00:04:04,983 --> 00:04:06,289 - He can't do that, can he? 98 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:08,465 - He can try, but it doesn't mean 99 00:04:08,509 --> 00:04:09,901 that he's gonna get away with it. 100 00:04:09,945 --> 00:04:13,427 - We can appeal this. This is not over, Valentina. 101 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:14,993 102 00:04:15,037 --> 00:04:18,649 - I'm so sorry. 103 00:04:18,693 --> 00:04:20,390 - Tough loss. - 104 00:04:20,434 --> 00:04:21,870 - I did have home court advantage. 105 00:04:21,913 --> 00:04:23,306 - What does that mean? 106 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:25,656 - Gallagher, I just found out he wasn't supposed 107 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:29,007 to be assigned this trial. He bird-dogged it. 108 00:04:29,051 --> 00:04:30,487 We were all a part of his show trial 109 00:04:30,531 --> 00:04:31,880 to shore up his base. 110 00:04:31,923 --> 00:04:34,796 He just used you to launch his political career. 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:56,992 112 00:05:35,509 --> 00:05:37,380 for New York State Attorney General. 113 00:05:37,424 --> 00:05:38,816 There's lawlessness in the streets. 114 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:41,863 Our suburbs, our way of life, are under attack, 115 00:05:41,906 --> 00:05:43,865 and so are our sons. 116 00:05:43,908 --> 00:05:47,085 The Me Too pendulum has swung too far. 117 00:05:47,129 --> 00:05:48,565 - "Our sons"? 118 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:49,871 Guess he doesn't care about our daughters. 119 00:05:49,914 --> 00:05:50,915 - Not even a little. 120 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,264 All this guy cares about is himself 121 00:05:52,308 --> 00:05:54,919 and his political career. What is his pedigree? 122 00:05:54,963 --> 00:05:57,400 - Hudson U undergrad, Harvard Law, 123 00:05:57,444 --> 00:05:59,402 eight years as a Suffolk County ADA. 124 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:00,664 - He ever put his thumb on the scale 125 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:01,709 when he was a prosecutor? 126 00:06:01,752 --> 00:06:02,927 - Yeah, first year, 127 00:06:02,971 --> 00:06:04,102 he had four high profile rape convictions, 128 00:06:04,146 --> 00:06:06,191 all Black and Latino defendants, 129 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:08,150 and then he declined to prosecute 130 00:06:08,193 --> 00:06:11,414 a white college male in a "he said, she said." 131 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,590 - The old boy network is strong out east. 132 00:06:13,634 --> 00:06:14,896 - So is the corruption. 133 00:06:14,939 --> 00:06:16,550 Look who's spearheading his campaign. 134 00:06:16,593 --> 00:06:19,422 - Not the Hunter family? - Close enough. 135 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:22,643 Tom Burns, Ian Hunter's maternal uncle. 136 00:06:22,686 --> 00:06:24,775 - That guy was at the trial every day. 137 00:06:24,819 --> 00:06:27,082 Look. 138 00:06:27,125 --> 00:06:29,563 - The fix was in before "all rise." 139 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:31,565 - It's pretty much what Calhoun told us. 140 00:06:31,608 --> 00:06:33,654 - She may have overplayed her hand. 141 00:06:33,697 --> 00:06:35,133 I can appeal Gallagher's decision, 142 00:06:35,177 --> 00:06:36,918 but Valentina doesn't want to go through another trial, 143 00:06:36,961 --> 00:06:39,094 but if we can prove quid pro quo, 144 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:41,270 there's a good shot that we get that decision reversed. 145 00:06:41,313 --> 00:06:43,707 - This may help-- Gallagher and Ian's uncle 146 00:06:43,751 --> 00:06:45,013 have known each other for 30 years. 147 00:06:45,056 --> 00:06:47,189 They were in the same frat at Hudson U. 148 00:06:47,232 --> 00:06:49,931 - At Hudson U in the '90s? 149 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:51,976 I may know someone who went to school with them. 150 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:54,892 - Another country club buddy? - Just the opposite. 151 00:06:58,548 --> 00:07:00,202 - Captain, your reputation precedes you. 152 00:07:00,245 --> 00:07:02,552 - Oh, as does yours. 153 00:07:02,596 --> 00:07:04,815 - Congratulations on the promotion. 154 00:07:04,859 --> 00:07:07,644 Head of the Civil Rights Unit, that's a big step up. 155 00:07:07,688 --> 00:07:09,994 - Well, after the riots, they needed someone-- 156 00:07:10,038 --> 00:07:11,474 what did my boss say? 157 00:07:11,518 --> 00:07:13,737 "Who checked every diversity box." 158 00:07:13,781 --> 00:07:16,784 So what brings SVU 159 00:07:16,827 --> 00:07:18,307 to the people's republic of Brooklyn? 160 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:20,962 - The past. We're looking at a judge. 161 00:07:21,005 --> 00:07:22,964 Charles Gallagher, you two were undergrads 162 00:07:23,007 --> 00:07:24,661 at Hudson U together. You remember him? 163 00:07:24,705 --> 00:07:28,752 - Chip Gallagher. I wish I could un-remember him. 164 00:07:28,796 --> 00:07:30,319 I worked in the frat kitchen. 165 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:33,235 He never bussed a tray once, and now he's running for AG. 166 00:07:33,278 --> 00:07:35,237 - Yeah, and to kickstart his campaign, 167 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,110 he threw out a solid rape case. - In Suffolk, I heard. 168 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:40,808 - And it turns out the defendant's uncle 169 00:07:40,851 --> 00:07:43,158 was Tom Burns, another Hudson U alum. 170 00:07:43,201 --> 00:07:44,159 - I know him too. 171 00:07:44,202 --> 00:07:45,813 Those two were thick as thieves. 172 00:07:45,856 --> 00:07:47,641 - So Burns donated to his campaign. 173 00:07:47,684 --> 00:07:49,817 If we could prove that it was a bribe... 174 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:53,516 - Tough case to make, but I wouldn't be surprised. 175 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,518 They've been covering up for each other for years. 176 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:58,608 - Covering up what? 177 00:07:58,652 --> 00:08:01,916 - I've probably already said too much. 178 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:04,353 - Counselor... 179 00:08:04,396 --> 00:08:08,009 if there's a reason that Gallagher shouldn't be AG, 180 00:08:08,052 --> 00:08:10,838 we need to get that out there. 181 00:08:10,881 --> 00:08:14,145 - It was a long time ago-- early '90s. 182 00:08:14,189 --> 00:08:18,889 Sweet, brilliant girl who was so brutalized by Gallagher, 183 00:08:18,933 --> 00:08:22,284 she dropped out of Hudson. 184 00:08:22,327 --> 00:08:24,547 It's haunted me because I didn't help her. 185 00:08:24,591 --> 00:08:26,854 - So you're saying that he raped her. 186 00:08:26,897 --> 00:08:27,855 - She told me he raped her 187 00:08:27,898 --> 00:08:29,552 while Tommy Burns held her down. 188 00:08:29,596 --> 00:08:31,554 - Did she report this? 189 00:08:31,598 --> 00:08:34,209 - She did, but those days, it got buried. 190 00:08:34,252 --> 00:08:36,864 Gallagher went on to Harvard Law, 191 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:38,953 became a judge. - And the victim? 192 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:42,391 - Not a week has gone without my thinking 193 00:08:42,434 --> 00:08:44,611 about what Chip did to her. 194 00:08:44,654 --> 00:08:47,396 195 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:52,053 - Nobody cared back then, not even Isaiah Holmes. 196 00:08:52,096 --> 00:08:54,708 I don't blame him. We were on scholarship. 197 00:08:54,751 --> 00:08:56,231 No match for that crowd. 198 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:58,973 - Can you tell us about Gallagher? 199 00:08:59,016 --> 00:09:03,368 - He invited me, April from Sunset Park, 200 00:09:03,412 --> 00:09:05,414 to a frat party 201 00:09:05,457 --> 00:09:09,636 like he was interested in me, but it was a setup. 202 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,684 - He assaulted you. - One glass of punch. 203 00:09:14,728 --> 00:09:18,035 Then I woke up with Gallagher on top of me, 204 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:21,082 his wingman Tommy Burns laughing, 205 00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:22,823 holding me down. 206 00:09:22,866 --> 00:09:24,346 - What happened when you reported it? 207 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:29,090 - Campus cops interviewed me, Chip, his frat brothers. 208 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:32,093 Then they basically told me I shouldn't let one drunken night 209 00:09:32,136 --> 00:09:34,617 define my college experience. 210 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:38,447 - Did you ever go to NYPD? - No. 211 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:41,755 Those guys control the narrative. 212 00:09:41,798 --> 00:09:45,236 I realized I was never gonna make it in their world. 213 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,282 Never even made it to law school. 214 00:09:47,325 --> 00:09:49,023 - Ms. Kelly, look, 215 00:09:49,066 --> 00:09:52,417 your case is past the statute of limitations, 216 00:09:52,461 --> 00:09:54,898 but often when one person comes forward-- 217 00:09:54,942 --> 00:09:56,073 - Not me. 218 00:09:56,117 --> 00:09:58,685 I tried to fight Gallagher 30 years ago. 219 00:09:58,728 --> 00:10:01,688 Lost. 220 00:10:01,731 --> 00:10:03,733 And he's running for AG now? 221 00:10:03,777 --> 00:10:05,474 If I go up against him, 222 00:10:05,517 --> 00:10:08,825 his old boy network will destroy me. 223 00:10:11,349 --> 00:10:13,395 I have to go back to work. 224 00:10:13,438 --> 00:10:15,136 - So that's it? 225 00:10:15,179 --> 00:10:16,964 - Well, if she reported it to Hudson, 226 00:10:17,007 --> 00:10:18,400 there might be a record. 227 00:10:18,443 --> 00:10:19,749 - Yeah, but didn't you used to know the president? 228 00:10:19,793 --> 00:10:22,099 - Well, there's been a revolving door lately, 229 00:10:22,143 --> 00:10:24,058 but Gallagher teaches there. 230 00:10:24,101 --> 00:10:26,364 I should give the new president the courtesy of a heads-up. 231 00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:32,283 - We're lucky to have a judge of Gallagher's stature 232 00:10:32,327 --> 00:10:34,111 teaching constitutional law here. 233 00:10:34,155 --> 00:10:35,939 We think the world of him. 234 00:10:38,986 --> 00:10:41,205 - Well, it doesn't seem like your students agree. 235 00:10:41,249 --> 00:10:43,294 - I can't say I entirely disagree with them. 236 00:10:43,338 --> 00:10:46,036 The ruling in the Suffolk case was upsetting. 237 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,690 Frankly, I wish the Manhattan DA 238 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:49,257 had prosecuted the case. 239 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:51,215 - That was a decision beyond my pay grade. 240 00:10:51,259 --> 00:10:53,522 - I imagine there's a lot of those. 241 00:10:53,565 --> 00:10:56,351 Anyway, if you're vetting him for his AG run, 242 00:10:56,394 --> 00:10:59,180 I can assure you there have been no complaints 243 00:10:59,223 --> 00:11:01,356 about him here. - As a professor. 244 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:04,402 And I realize this is before your time here, 245 00:11:04,446 --> 00:11:06,013 but do you know anything 246 00:11:06,056 --> 00:11:09,016 about his record as an undergrad? 247 00:11:09,059 --> 00:11:12,454 - You're fishing for something. You want to give me a hint? 248 00:11:14,891 --> 00:11:17,807 - There may have been a sexual misconduct claim 249 00:11:17,851 --> 00:11:20,244 filed against him when he was at Tau Omega. 250 00:11:20,288 --> 00:11:21,724 - This would have been in the '90s. 251 00:11:21,768 --> 00:11:24,118 - Yes. - I'll look into it. 252 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:25,510 - Thank you. 253 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:27,077 - But I doubt we'll find anything, 254 00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,036 given his character and, frankly, 255 00:11:29,079 --> 00:11:30,341 the way complaints were handled back then-- 256 00:11:30,385 --> 00:11:34,215 - I would appreciate any help. - Of course. 257 00:11:38,610 --> 00:11:40,047 - You get anything, captain? 258 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:41,918 - Well, President DuBois agreed 259 00:11:41,962 --> 00:11:44,355 to look into April's accusations against the judge. 260 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:45,879 - And you believe her? - I don't know. 261 00:11:45,922 --> 00:11:47,271 I mean, she said all the right things, 262 00:11:47,315 --> 00:11:49,534 but that's why they hired her. 263 00:11:49,578 --> 00:11:50,927 - Ask Carisi for a warrant. 264 00:11:50,971 --> 00:11:53,843 - I think that'll raise a red flag. 265 00:11:55,802 --> 00:11:58,282 - There might be a better way. 266 00:11:58,326 --> 00:12:01,416 - Working campus police, I got more bennies 267 00:12:01,459 --> 00:12:03,070 than even you guys. 268 00:12:03,113 --> 00:12:05,028 Three kids, free tuition. 269 00:12:05,072 --> 00:12:08,118 My third's a senior, protesting that judge. 270 00:12:08,162 --> 00:12:10,164 - Actually, he's why we're here. 271 00:12:10,207 --> 00:12:11,426 Any chance you were on the job 272 00:12:11,469 --> 00:12:13,254 back when Gallagher was a undergrad? 273 00:12:13,297 --> 00:12:14,472 - My first year. 274 00:12:14,516 --> 00:12:15,909 - You know he was accused of raping a girl 275 00:12:15,952 --> 00:12:17,432 your daughter's age? 276 00:12:17,475 --> 00:12:19,042 - Listen, I can't talk to you, man. 277 00:12:19,086 --> 00:12:20,435 You gotta go through administration. 278 00:12:20,478 --> 00:12:22,089 - You know how that goes. 279 00:12:22,132 --> 00:12:23,438 Any chance you got any of your memo books 280 00:12:23,481 --> 00:12:26,615 from back in the day? 281 00:12:26,658 --> 00:12:28,835 The victim's name was April Kelly. 282 00:12:28,878 --> 00:12:30,401 - Sorry, I gotta go, Officer. 283 00:12:30,445 --> 00:12:32,621 I drive my daughter home every day. 284 00:12:32,664 --> 00:12:35,493 - You can never be too safe with a college girl. 285 00:12:36,581 --> 00:12:39,367 - I wish I could have been more help, man. 286 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:42,936 - Hey, if anything comes up. - Hi, Dad. 287 00:12:42,979 --> 00:12:45,895 - Hey. - Hello, Officer. 288 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,336 - Investigating a decades old assault charge 289 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:54,904 on Judge Gallagher with a reluctant victim 290 00:12:54,948 --> 00:12:56,297 seems an overreach. 291 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:57,428 - He's running for attorney general. 292 00:12:57,472 --> 00:12:59,256 His victim disclosed to me at the time. 293 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:02,433 - Chief, I spoke to her myself. She's credible. 294 00:13:02,477 --> 00:13:04,087 - And her case is outside the statute. 295 00:13:04,131 --> 00:13:06,916 - This guy is a predator who protects other predators. 296 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,310 If we keep digging, we're gonna find more victims. 297 00:13:09,353 --> 00:13:11,965 - Sorry, sir, I told him you were in a meeting. 298 00:13:12,008 --> 00:13:13,488 - My fault, Chief. It's important. 299 00:13:13,531 --> 00:13:17,057 I'd appreciate a few minutes. - Of course, Judge. 300 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,407 It's okay, Celia. 301 00:13:19,450 --> 00:13:21,322 - So these are my accusers? 302 00:13:21,365 --> 00:13:26,675 Captain, Counselor, and Isaiah. Et tu, busboy? 303 00:13:26,718 --> 00:13:28,329 - Been a long time, Chip. 304 00:13:28,372 --> 00:13:29,939 - Counselor Holmes and I go way back 305 00:13:29,983 --> 00:13:32,507 when he was slinging fish sticks. 306 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:33,900 He knows I have nothing to hide. 307 00:13:33,943 --> 00:13:35,336 You have questions, you should have come to me. 308 00:13:35,379 --> 00:13:36,511 - Just due diligence, Your Honor. 309 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:37,991 - This because you just lost your case 310 00:13:38,034 --> 00:13:39,253 or because I'm running for AG? 311 00:13:39,296 --> 00:13:41,995 - We have a credible accusation. 312 00:13:42,038 --> 00:13:44,171 - Credible or ginned up? 313 00:13:44,214 --> 00:13:46,390 In this environment, any woman can say anything. 314 00:13:46,434 --> 00:13:47,565 If you have political opponents, 315 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:48,958 they'll run with it. 316 00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:52,919 - Well, if that's the case, then we'll find out. 317 00:13:52,962 --> 00:13:55,138 - Before or after you've achieved 318 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:57,575 your true goal to tar me? 319 00:13:57,619 --> 00:13:58,968 - 320 00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:00,448 That's not what this is about, Judge. 321 00:14:00,491 --> 00:14:02,580 - You're gonna sit there and tell me these three 322 00:14:02,624 --> 00:14:04,365 aren't biased against me? 323 00:14:04,408 --> 00:14:06,236 You're a smart guy. 324 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,239 Think you'd know a hanging jury when you see one. 325 00:14:12,286 --> 00:14:19,293 326 00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:26,169 - Thanks for calling. 327 00:14:26,213 --> 00:14:29,477 - Wasn't my idea. - Well, thank your daughter. 328 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,088 - Went through some old boxes in my garage, 329 00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:35,396 found a bunch of old memo books, but... 330 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:37,615 - I didn't get 'em from you. 331 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:39,356 - And his other two victims I found, 332 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,359 you didn't get those from me either. 333 00:14:42,403 --> 00:14:45,449 - Understood. 334 00:14:45,493 --> 00:14:52,500 335 00:14:58,462 --> 00:15:00,900 - So how did you guys hear about my case? 336 00:15:00,943 --> 00:15:03,467 Hudson U just treated me like I was toxic waste. 337 00:15:03,511 --> 00:15:07,341 - Well, somebody who cared came forward. 338 00:15:08,864 --> 00:15:10,605 Look, if you feel uncomfortable at all, 339 00:15:10,648 --> 00:15:12,694 or if you don't remember the details-- 340 00:15:12,737 --> 00:15:14,957 - Oh, I remember the details. 341 00:15:15,001 --> 00:15:18,352 Chip Gallagher assaulted me. 342 00:15:18,395 --> 00:15:19,962 - So can you tell us what happened? 343 00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:22,399 - I passed out at a party, 344 00:15:22,443 --> 00:15:24,097 woke up with his thing in my hand, 345 00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:26,490 and the whole room was laughing. 346 00:15:26,534 --> 00:15:28,579 - Did you report Gallagher? - The next day. 347 00:15:28,623 --> 00:15:31,669 They took statements from everybody in the room, 348 00:15:31,713 --> 00:15:35,499 Chip's pals, my so-called friends. 349 00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:38,067 They all backed Chip, just like with April. 350 00:15:38,111 --> 00:15:40,026 - So you knew about April. 351 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:43,899 - When April heard about it, she reached out, 352 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:46,380 told me what Gallagher did to her. 353 00:15:46,423 --> 00:15:49,035 At least it made me feel like I wasn't crazy. 354 00:15:50,732 --> 00:15:54,518 - If we can make a case against Gallagher, 355 00:15:54,562 --> 00:15:56,520 would you be willing to testify? 356 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:57,869 - Isn't it too long ago? 357 00:15:57,913 --> 00:16:00,002 - We wouldn't be able to prosecute your case, 358 00:16:00,046 --> 00:16:03,397 but this is still an open investigation, 359 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,097 so his conduct with you would certainly speak to pattern. 360 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,493 - If you say so. 361 00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:14,886 In my opinion, guys like Gallagher, 362 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:17,541 they've been above the law for so long, 363 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:19,891 nothing touches them. 364 00:16:22,938 --> 00:16:24,679 - I was a freshman. 365 00:16:24,722 --> 00:16:27,508 I couldn't believe I was invited to a Hamptons party. 366 00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:29,901 I had some drinks. 367 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:34,471 I woke up on a boat naked and alone with Chip Gallagher. 368 00:16:34,515 --> 00:16:36,082 I was scared. 369 00:16:36,125 --> 00:16:39,128 I begged Chip to take us back. - And what did he say? 370 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:42,827 - He said I had two choices-- hump or jump. 371 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:43,959 - I'm so sorry. 372 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,048 - I was a city kid. I couldn't swim. 373 00:16:46,092 --> 00:16:47,702 At least it was over fast. 374 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:50,052 - Did you ever file a police report? 375 00:16:50,096 --> 00:16:53,055 - Hudson U said it was a campus security matter. 376 00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:54,230 When you're on financial aid, 377 00:16:54,274 --> 00:16:55,579 you do what the school tells you. 378 00:16:55,623 --> 00:16:56,928 - So they told you they'd look into it 379 00:16:56,972 --> 00:16:58,756 and not to go to the police. 380 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,976 - Would you be willing to testify against him? 381 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:02,891 - I'm a court reporter. 382 00:17:02,934 --> 00:17:05,067 For the past 15 years, I've taken the testimony 383 00:17:05,111 --> 00:17:08,592 of every skeeze, sleaze, and scumbag they make. 384 00:17:08,636 --> 00:17:10,768 My dream-- someone else typing 385 00:17:10,812 --> 00:17:12,944 while I testify against Chip Gallagher. 386 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,210 - So April is still reluctant, 387 00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:19,777 but Francine is willing, 388 00:17:19,821 --> 00:17:23,259 and Carmen has already given an interview to Buzzfeed 389 00:17:23,303 --> 00:17:25,000 about how she was sexually assaulted 390 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,133 by Gallagher as an undergrad. 391 00:17:27,176 --> 00:17:29,004 - And we've got campus police memo books 392 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:30,658 to back 'em up. - Okay, it's a start. 393 00:17:30,701 --> 00:17:32,094 It goes to pattern, but I still need a case 394 00:17:32,138 --> 00:17:33,443 within the statute. 395 00:17:33,487 --> 00:17:35,489 - Also going to pattern, Gallagher only chooses 396 00:17:35,532 --> 00:17:38,187 women from lower classes-- on scholarships, ethnic. 397 00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:40,102 - So we look for more women in his orbit 398 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:42,191 that fit that profile. - Well, you better move fast. 399 00:17:42,235 --> 00:17:44,237 Gallagher's circling the wagons. 400 00:17:45,934 --> 00:17:47,979 - With us today are ten lawyers 401 00:17:48,023 --> 00:17:50,025 who've been mentored by Judge Gallagher 402 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:53,855 as interns, clerks, or students. 403 00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:56,031 Each of these women has signed a statement 404 00:17:56,075 --> 00:17:59,991 attesting that the judge is a man of impeccable character 405 00:18:00,035 --> 00:18:01,993 incapable of the kind of behavior 406 00:18:02,037 --> 00:18:04,518 he has been falsely accused of. 407 00:18:04,561 --> 00:18:06,955 - Calhoun is defending Gallagher now. 408 00:18:06,998 --> 00:18:09,523 So there really is no bottom. - Or shame. 409 00:18:09,566 --> 00:18:11,177 She just argued a case in front of him. 410 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:14,745 - I pride myself on having created opportunities 411 00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:16,921 for women throughout my career. 412 00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:20,882 If I stand for anything, it's for equity and fairness. 413 00:18:20,925 --> 00:18:25,539 I don't see gender, race, or creed. 414 00:18:25,582 --> 00:18:27,845 - All right, well, he doesn't see class or color, 415 00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:29,151 but when I look at that screen, 416 00:18:29,195 --> 00:18:31,022 all I see are white women of privilege. 417 00:18:31,066 --> 00:18:32,807 - So we know he's not raping them. 418 00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:34,678 - But these guys call in favors 419 00:18:34,722 --> 00:18:36,027 from women they haven't assaulted. 420 00:18:36,071 --> 00:18:37,290 We've seen that move before. 421 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:39,335 - All right, then we need to find the women 422 00:18:39,379 --> 00:18:41,903 that didn't sign that statement. 423 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,691 - This was over ten years ago. 424 00:18:47,735 --> 00:18:49,780 I can guess why you're here, and I can tell you right now 425 00:18:49,824 --> 00:18:51,304 I can't help you. 426 00:18:51,347 --> 00:18:54,176 - You weren't a part of Gallagher's press conference. 427 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:55,873 - I just made junior partner at my firm. 428 00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:57,048 I didn't have the time. 429 00:18:57,092 --> 00:18:58,572 - Maybe it's because Gallagher 430 00:18:58,615 --> 00:19:00,051 was less of a gentleman with you. 431 00:19:00,095 --> 00:19:02,793 - He was my professor, my mentor. 432 00:19:02,837 --> 00:19:04,621 - And you're saying he wasn't hands on? 433 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:06,362 - I wouldn't be here today earning high six figures 434 00:19:06,406 --> 00:19:07,929 without his referral. 435 00:19:07,972 --> 00:19:11,106 - You should be very proud, a girl from the Pink Houses. 436 00:19:12,803 --> 00:19:14,065 - I am. 437 00:19:14,109 --> 00:19:15,676 I moved my moms out of the projects 438 00:19:15,719 --> 00:19:17,373 in Brownsville into a brownstone I now own. 439 00:19:17,417 --> 00:19:18,853 - You're afraid all that'll go away 440 00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:20,376 if you let people think 441 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:22,248 that you slept with your professor? 442 00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:25,164 - I was talking to your partner. 443 00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:29,168 - He's my boss, but maybe you and I have... 444 00:19:31,387 --> 00:19:34,085 More in common than you think. 445 00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:35,783 I had to leave my first job, my hometown, 446 00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:37,785 because of a guy like Gallagher. 447 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,267 - Then you know I didn't sleep with him. 448 00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:43,225 - Yeah. 449 00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:47,751 - He said he needed an assistant 450 00:19:47,795 --> 00:19:50,363 on a fast track to clerk. 451 00:19:50,406 --> 00:19:53,235 Didn't matter that I was one of his best students. 452 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:54,715 I had a choice 453 00:19:54,758 --> 00:19:56,804 between failing his class or acing it 454 00:19:56,847 --> 00:19:58,022 with a law school recommendation 455 00:19:58,066 --> 00:19:59,546 and a clerkship that led to this job-- 456 00:19:59,589 --> 00:20:01,939 - Maya, you don't need me to tell you that that's rape. 457 00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:05,247 - Maybe rape three, but that's a tough case, 458 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:08,816 and it might put my partnership at risk. 459 00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:11,775 - Maya, I can't tell you what to do, 460 00:20:11,819 --> 00:20:13,908 but I've never known a sister from Brownsville 461 00:20:13,951 --> 00:20:15,692 that would step away from a fight 462 00:20:15,736 --> 00:20:18,129 when someone had done her wrong. 463 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,006 - Two women he went to college with 464 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:27,269 and someone who clerked for him 465 00:20:27,313 --> 00:20:29,967 are making unsubstantiated accusations. 466 00:20:30,011 --> 00:20:33,319 This isn't an investigation. It's a political inquisition. 467 00:20:33,362 --> 00:20:36,322 - Rita, you can spin this any way you want. 468 00:20:36,365 --> 00:20:39,847 We found these women. They didn't come to us. 469 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:42,066 - And the DA's willing to go to trial on this tomorrow. 470 00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:43,242 - Correct me if I'm wrong, Counselor. 471 00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:45,374 You went to Fordham Law night school? 472 00:20:45,418 --> 00:20:49,335 You've been a ADA for a year? - Hold on, Your Honor. 473 00:20:49,378 --> 00:20:52,163 Neither of you like my client, but let's face it. 474 00:20:52,207 --> 00:20:53,295 If you had a viable case, 475 00:20:53,339 --> 00:20:54,775 you'd have already perp walked him, 476 00:20:54,818 --> 00:20:57,038 so why are we here? 477 00:20:57,081 --> 00:21:00,171 - The DA's also willing not to proceed 478 00:21:00,215 --> 00:21:02,826 if Judge Gallagher agrees to drop out of the AG race. 479 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:04,175 - What the hell are you talking about? 480 00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:06,003 - He'd also have to resign from the bench. 481 00:21:06,047 --> 00:21:07,962 - Olivia-- 482 00:21:08,005 --> 00:21:11,008 I have asked the judge to give you the benefit of the doubt, 483 00:21:11,052 --> 00:21:14,055 but these overt ideological and personal attacks 484 00:21:14,098 --> 00:21:15,535 are beyond the pale. 485 00:21:15,578 --> 00:21:18,799 - Rita, this isn't personal, and this is not political. 486 00:21:18,842 --> 00:21:21,454 Your client is a rapist. 487 00:21:21,497 --> 00:21:24,021 - The only reason that he's getting off 488 00:21:24,065 --> 00:21:25,762 on a complete walk is because the DA 489 00:21:25,806 --> 00:21:27,373 doesn't want it to look like he's interfering 490 00:21:27,416 --> 00:21:29,853 in a political race. I'd take it, Counselor. 491 00:21:29,897 --> 00:21:33,204 - Respectfully pass. Judge, let's go. 492 00:21:33,248 --> 00:21:34,336 - You people in Manhattan 493 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,207 really live in a bubble, don't you? 494 00:21:36,251 --> 00:21:37,513 The world has changed. 495 00:21:37,557 --> 00:21:39,167 You have no idea what you're dealing with. 496 00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:40,299 You know, if you keep this up, 497 00:21:40,342 --> 00:21:41,865 I'll see to it you're disbarred. 498 00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:42,866 You get lucky, 499 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:44,085 maybe the NYPD'll take you back. 500 00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:45,913 You can do traffic stops on Staten Island. 501 00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:47,871 - Your Honor, we're done here. - Okay, all right. 502 00:21:47,915 --> 00:21:50,134 - Something they can't teach you at Fordham, 503 00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:52,354 how to belong. 504 00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:54,356 People on the eighth floor who nod at you in the elevator, 505 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,880 they can smell the flop sweat and the garlic 506 00:21:56,924 --> 00:21:59,274 coming off your cheap suit. - Keep going, Judge. 507 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:00,406 - Yeah, what do you want to hear, you dumb dago? 508 00:22:00,449 --> 00:22:01,885 You want to go? - Yeah, fine. 509 00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:03,234 I'll take you out right here. - Okay, that's enough. 510 00:22:03,278 --> 00:22:04,497 That's enough. - Or we can go right now. 511 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,195 Either way's fine for me. - Carisi. 512 00:22:09,023 --> 00:22:10,764 - No need. 513 00:22:10,807 --> 00:22:12,200 You're in so far over your head, 514 00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:14,811 you don't even know your career's dead and buried. 515 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:24,386 516 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:27,824 - You okay? - Fine. 517 00:22:27,868 --> 00:22:29,304 Screw him. 518 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:40,707 - I'm sorry you had to listen to that. 519 00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:41,708 - I'm not. 520 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:42,839 It's always good to know 521 00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:44,014 what's right there below the surface. 522 00:22:44,058 --> 00:22:45,799 - He has so much ego. 523 00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:47,888 He thinks that he's invulnerable. 524 00:22:47,931 --> 00:22:50,499 It hasn't even occurred to him that he's risking prison time. 525 00:22:50,543 --> 00:22:51,805 - Eh, to the contrary. 526 00:22:51,848 --> 00:22:53,459 He sees this as a way to shore up his status 527 00:22:53,502 --> 00:22:55,809 as a victim of cancel culture persecution. 528 00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,552 - Charges are slanderous... 529 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:02,250 - Calhoun is beating that drum as loud as she can. 530 00:23:02,293 --> 00:23:03,382 - You have your work cut out for you, Counselor. 531 00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:04,687 Good luck. 532 00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:07,473 - My client has been a respected and dedicated 533 00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:10,432 civil servant for over 1/4 century. 534 00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:15,611 He has devoted his entire life to upholding the Constitution 535 00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:16,699 and the rule of law. 536 00:23:16,743 --> 00:23:18,701 - Isn't Carmen your first witness? 537 00:23:18,745 --> 00:23:20,877 - Ms. Benitez, you need to wait with the court officer 538 00:23:20,921 --> 00:23:22,618 until you testify. - I won't be testifying. 539 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:23,924 - Wait, hold on, look, 540 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,621 I know how stressful this can be, 541 00:23:25,665 --> 00:23:26,970 but you were solid on-- 542 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:29,320 - I just got a text from my supervisor. 543 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:30,800 He said if I testify, no judge will take me 544 00:23:30,844 --> 00:23:32,541 as their court reporter. I'm sorry. 545 00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:33,629 I have to work. I have kids. 546 00:23:33,673 --> 00:23:34,761 - Hold on, hold on, 547 00:23:34,804 --> 00:23:35,892 they're threatening to blackball you. 548 00:23:35,936 --> 00:23:37,067 That is illegal. They cannot do that. 549 00:23:37,111 --> 00:23:38,417 - Like that's ever stopped Gallagher. 550 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,419 - We can call your supervisor. - Please don't. 551 00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:45,815 552 00:23:45,859 --> 00:23:48,862 - All right, I'll just-- I just tell Francine 553 00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:50,733 that, after opening statements, she's up first now. 554 00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:52,779 - Carisi, don't you let these bastards get to you. 555 00:23:52,822 --> 00:23:54,737 You got this. 556 00:24:00,787 --> 00:24:03,920 - I was a freshman at my first frat party. 557 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:06,836 I had too much to drink. - And what happened? 558 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,796 - I must have passed out. - And when you came to? 559 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,015 - I was on the floor. 560 00:24:12,059 --> 00:24:14,975 Chip Gallagher was kneeling over me, 561 00:24:15,018 --> 00:24:18,848 and he had put his erect penis in my left hand. 562 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:22,373 - Was anyone else there? 563 00:24:22,417 --> 00:24:26,116 - His frat brothers watched. I can still hear them laughing. 564 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,510 - Did you report this to Hudson U? 565 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,077 - I did. 566 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,513 They told me not to go to the police 567 00:24:31,557 --> 00:24:33,907 and then they deemed it unfounded. 568 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:36,475 I ended up transferring out. 569 00:24:36,518 --> 00:24:38,825 I've replayed the humiliation of that moment in my head 570 00:24:38,868 --> 00:24:41,088 for over 30 years. 571 00:24:42,785 --> 00:24:45,919 - Thank you. 572 00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:50,401 - Ms. Giamba, you've been married twice. 573 00:24:51,751 --> 00:24:54,928 No, I'm sorry. 574 00:24:54,971 --> 00:24:57,147 Three times. 575 00:24:57,191 --> 00:25:01,717 I don't see a ring on your left hand. 576 00:25:01,761 --> 00:25:03,110 - No, that's because-- 577 00:25:03,153 --> 00:25:04,851 - Right, because you've been divorced three times 578 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:07,593 and all for infidelity? - Objection. 579 00:25:07,636 --> 00:25:09,116 - Prosecution is using this woman 580 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:10,813 as a Molineux pattern witness. 581 00:25:10,857 --> 00:25:13,468 I'm merely showing a pattern of deceit that this witness... 582 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:14,513 - Sustained. 583 00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:15,688 - Cheated on three husbands 584 00:25:15,731 --> 00:25:17,516 she promised to be faithful to. 585 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,519 - Ms. Calhoun, the objection is sustained. 586 00:25:20,562 --> 00:25:22,608 - I don't see why the jury should take her word 587 00:25:22,651 --> 00:25:24,392 against my client now. 588 00:25:24,435 --> 00:25:26,089 - Jury will disregard. 589 00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,614 One more word, Ms. Calhoun, 590 00:25:28,657 --> 00:25:31,878 and I will hold you in contempt. 591 00:25:32,705 --> 00:25:34,576 - Nothing further. 592 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:42,541 - Ms. Bell, when you first met the defendant, 593 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:44,717 he wasn't just a law school professor. 594 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,024 He was also a sitting judge. - Yes. 595 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:49,548 I looked up to him. 596 00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:52,072 He seemed to take a special interest in me 597 00:25:52,115 --> 00:25:53,421 even though I was on scholarship. 598 00:25:53,464 --> 00:25:55,075 - And what changed your relationship? 599 00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:57,643 - I asked if I could use him as a reference for a clerkship. 600 00:25:58,905 --> 00:26:00,820 He said he would be happy to discuss my future 601 00:26:00,863 --> 00:26:02,865 if I met him at his campus office one night. 602 00:26:02,909 --> 00:26:05,128 - And what happened in that meeting? 603 00:26:05,172 --> 00:26:07,696 - He said he would be open to helping me 604 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,480 if I was open to helping him. 605 00:26:09,524 --> 00:26:10,960 - What did you take that to mean? 606 00:26:11,004 --> 00:26:14,181 - He made it clear that if I wanted good grades, 607 00:26:14,224 --> 00:26:18,577 a recommendation, I had to, as he put it, 608 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:21,188 "approach the bench." 609 00:26:21,231 --> 00:26:24,104 By that, he meant service him sexually. 610 00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:27,107 - And did you? 611 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:31,067 - Yes, the first time that night. 612 00:26:31,111 --> 00:26:34,810 I subsequently had "night court" with him-- 613 00:26:34,854 --> 00:26:38,727 his phrase for oral sex-- until the semester ended. 614 00:26:38,771 --> 00:26:40,903 - Did he physically force you? 615 00:26:40,947 --> 00:26:45,081 - No, but he made it clear that if I didn't do what he wanted, 616 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,648 he wouldn't just fail me. 617 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:49,085 He'd see to it that I would lose my scholarship 618 00:26:49,129 --> 00:26:50,783 and be expelled. 619 00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:53,699 One phone call and my hopes of a law career 620 00:26:53,742 --> 00:26:55,614 would be dead and buried. 621 00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:59,052 - Dead and buried. 622 00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:03,143 Those were his exact words? - Yes. 623 00:27:04,797 --> 00:27:07,277 I knew I would never become a lawyer. 624 00:27:07,321 --> 00:27:09,584 - Thank you, Ms. Bell. 625 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,630 I know it wasn't easy for you to be here today. 626 00:27:15,285 --> 00:27:19,507 - As a lawyer, Ms. Bell, I assume you know 627 00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:22,118 the penal code for prostitution in New York State? 628 00:27:22,162 --> 00:27:24,120 - Yes, and I know where you're going, 629 00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:25,339 and this is not-- 630 00:27:25,382 --> 00:27:27,080 - Didn't you just testify you exchanged sex 631 00:27:27,123 --> 00:27:29,299 for monetary rewards? - I was forced to. 632 00:27:29,343 --> 00:27:32,781 - Do you have any proof-- texts, emails, witnesses 633 00:27:32,825 --> 00:27:36,742 of your sex for success arrangement 634 00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:39,658 with my client? 635 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,704 - No. 636 00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:45,141 The judge was very careful. - And you were very grateful? 637 00:27:45,185 --> 00:27:47,927 - Objection. - I'll just prove my point. 638 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:51,931 Would you please read aloud 639 00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:55,804 this email that you sent to Judge Gallagher? 640 00:27:58,851 --> 00:28:03,812 641 00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:07,729 - "Chip, a note of thanks for all you've done for me. 642 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,339 "I began my clerkship today, 643 00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:12,038 and I never would have made it here without your support." 644 00:28:12,081 --> 00:28:14,083 - Does that sound like the kind of note 645 00:28:14,127 --> 00:28:18,261 that a victim sends to her rapist? 646 00:28:21,134 --> 00:28:23,223 - I think a part of me was trying to pretend 647 00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:26,792 that what he did to me didn't happen. 648 00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:29,751 He had recommended me for the clerkship, so I-- 649 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,928 - And didn't you choose him to swear you in as a lawyer? 650 00:28:32,972 --> 00:28:36,279 And didn't he write a recommendation 651 00:28:36,323 --> 00:28:39,239 to the firm where you are now a junior partner? 652 00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:42,198 - Yes, but that doesn't mean-- 653 00:28:42,242 --> 00:28:43,852 - Your testimony seems to me 654 00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:47,900 like nothing more than an ambitious young woman 655 00:28:47,943 --> 00:28:50,729 looking to hustle some free Me Too publicity. 656 00:28:50,772 --> 00:28:52,600 - Objection. - Withdrawn. 657 00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:56,125 No more questions. 658 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:59,781 - Ms. Bell, can you in any way benefit 659 00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:01,391 from your testimony here today? 660 00:29:01,435 --> 00:29:05,918 - No, not if it makes people question how I got my job. 661 00:29:08,224 --> 00:29:10,400 I want to be fair. 662 00:29:10,444 --> 00:29:13,055 Gallagher did help me. 663 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:15,144 That's why I didn't come forward earlier. 664 00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:16,972 - But he did assault you? 665 00:29:17,016 --> 00:29:20,846 666 00:29:20,889 --> 00:29:21,977 - Yes. 667 00:29:22,021 --> 00:29:25,067 - Nothing further. Thank you. 668 00:29:25,111 --> 00:29:32,118 669 00:29:37,645 --> 00:29:39,560 - How are you holding up? 670 00:29:39,603 --> 00:29:40,779 - Well, they were both better at prep. 671 00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:42,563 - Well, they see him sitting at the table 672 00:29:42,606 --> 00:29:44,608 and they get intimidated all over again. 673 00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:47,176 - If I were on that jury, sex for success 674 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:50,136 versus inability consent, I'd see reasonable doubt. 675 00:29:50,179 --> 00:29:51,746 I mean, this is textbook "he said, she said." 676 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:55,228 - Gallagher's favorite phrase. 677 00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:56,751 - April. 678 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,535 - There's no reasonable doubt about what happened to me. 679 00:29:58,579 --> 00:29:59,710 It was rape. 680 00:29:59,754 --> 00:30:01,843 I saw his lawyer's press conference 681 00:30:01,887 --> 00:30:05,151 calling the other victims opportunists or crazy 682 00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:06,892 or liars. 683 00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:08,719 I don't want Gallagher to get away 684 00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:12,288 with what he's done. I'll testify. 685 00:30:14,638 --> 00:30:19,513 I woke up lying on a cold bathroom floor. 686 00:30:19,556 --> 00:30:22,559 I was naked from the waist down. 687 00:30:22,603 --> 00:30:25,867 Chip Gallagher was on top of me. 688 00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:28,217 He was raping me 689 00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:30,176 while one of his brothers held me down. 690 00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:32,439 - Did you go to the police? - No. 691 00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:35,703 I reported it to Hudson U. They said they would handle it. 692 00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:37,836 - And did they? - No. 693 00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:39,315 After they investigated, 694 00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:42,362 they declared the case unfounded. 695 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,755 - Thank you, Ms. Kelly. 696 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,758 - Ms. Kelly, why do you think 697 00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:52,763 Hudson believed this encounter was consensual? 698 00:30:52,807 --> 00:30:54,287 - I don't know. 699 00:30:54,330 --> 00:30:56,332 - Was it because none of the supposed witnesses to this 700 00:30:56,376 --> 00:30:58,682 backed you up? - They were his frat buddies. 701 00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:01,337 - Didn't campus police interview two of your friends 702 00:31:01,381 --> 00:31:03,470 who said they saw no rape? 703 00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:06,952 - They weren't in the bathroom. - Okay. 704 00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:10,303 You were drinking. - Yes, I said that--one drink. 705 00:31:10,346 --> 00:31:14,611 - And you don't remember how you got on that bathroom floor? 706 00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:15,786 - No. 707 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:18,398 - So isn't it possible you don't remember 708 00:31:18,441 --> 00:31:21,183 initiating the sexual encounter? 709 00:31:21,227 --> 00:31:22,837 - Objection. - Overruled. 710 00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:24,839 - I didn't. He raped me. 711 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,667 - But no rape kit, no police report. 712 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:29,235 - Well, they told me if I reported it to the police, 713 00:31:29,278 --> 00:31:30,845 it could jeopardize my scholarship. 714 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,848 - And did you report this to anyone? 715 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:37,373 - I told a classmate-- Isaiah Holmes. 716 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:41,464 - And did Mr. Holmes do anything on your behalf? 717 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:45,425 Did he report what you supposedly told him? 718 00:31:45,468 --> 00:31:47,688 - I did tell him! 719 00:31:47,731 --> 00:31:52,823 Chip Gallagher raped me. He ruined my life. 720 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:54,782 I was gonna be a lawyer. 721 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,915 - Were you? 722 00:31:56,958 --> 00:32:00,701 You failed out of Hudson. This was 30 years ago. 723 00:32:00,744 --> 00:32:04,574 Isn't it possible that you ruined your life 724 00:32:04,618 --> 00:32:05,749 all by yourself? 725 00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:07,708 - Objection, badgering the witness. 726 00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:10,624 - Rephrase. 727 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:12,931 You're unhappy with your life. 728 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:15,281 Isn't it possible you're looking 729 00:32:15,324 --> 00:32:17,979 for someone else to blame? - I can't do this! 730 00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:19,763 I can't. 731 00:32:19,807 --> 00:32:21,417 - Your honor, request a recess. 732 00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:23,506 - I'm not finished with my line of questioning, Your Honor. 733 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:25,813 - I think the witness is. 734 00:32:25,856 --> 00:32:28,468 - 735 00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:40,045 - I tried to talk to April. 736 00:32:40,088 --> 00:32:41,655 She said she wished I never brought any of this up. 737 00:32:41,698 --> 00:32:43,962 - I was the one that came to you in the first place. 738 00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:45,746 - I thought I could make things right, 739 00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:47,356 but I could not help April today 740 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,272 any more than I could 30 years ago. 741 00:32:50,316 --> 00:32:53,014 - You could testify to that. 742 00:32:53,058 --> 00:32:54,973 - I was in the courtroom to be supportive of her. 743 00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:57,497 Calhoun will claim that taints any testimony I give. 744 00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,629 - She will, but let me take it to the judge. 745 00:32:59,673 --> 00:33:02,023 You were an outcry witness. That has to carry weight. 746 00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:04,939 - And you think that'll make any difference to the jury? 747 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:07,637 - It'll make a difference to Gallagher. 748 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:14,296 When did April Kelly tell you 749 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:16,951 that she had been raped by Chip Gallagher? 750 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,954 - Your Honor, approach? 751 00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:25,829 Again, I object to this witness. 752 00:33:25,873 --> 00:33:27,788 How do we know Mr. Holmes' testimony 753 00:33:27,831 --> 00:33:29,137 hasn't been tailored to confirm 754 00:33:29,181 --> 00:33:32,010 what he heard April Kelly claim on the stand? 755 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:33,533 - We went over this in chambers, Your Honor. 756 00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:36,405 - Ms. Calhoun, your objection is on the record. 757 00:33:36,449 --> 00:33:39,060 You will have the opportunity to cross-examine on that point, 758 00:33:39,104 --> 00:33:42,629 and, as I said, I will remind the jury 759 00:33:42,672 --> 00:33:44,457 that when they evaluate this testimony, 760 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,808 they need to take Mr. Holmes' earlier presence into account. 761 00:33:47,851 --> 00:33:50,506 Step back. 762 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,381 You may proceed, Mr. Holmes. 763 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:56,643 - April told me the next day. 764 00:33:56,686 --> 00:34:00,429 She was distraught, broken, I'd say. 765 00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:01,778 I knew she was telling the truth. 766 00:34:01,822 --> 00:34:03,606 - Was there another reason that you believed her? 767 00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:05,739 - Yes, that morning while serving them 768 00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:07,741 in the frat dining hall, I heard Chip bragging 769 00:34:07,784 --> 00:34:11,136 about what he'd done to April. - In front of you? 770 00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:12,659 - I believe they were accustomed 771 00:34:12,702 --> 00:34:13,834 to not noticing the help. 772 00:34:13,877 --> 00:34:15,923 - And did you say anything to Gallagher? 773 00:34:15,966 --> 00:34:18,099 - I tried to confront him. - You tried? 774 00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:20,841 - I was a confused kid in college, 775 00:34:20,884 --> 00:34:23,148 unsure of my own racial and sexual identity. 776 00:34:23,191 --> 00:34:24,845 - Objection. Relevance? 777 00:34:24,888 --> 00:34:26,499 - I'm getting to that, Your Honor. 778 00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:30,720 What happened when you confronted Mr. Gallagher? 779 00:34:30,764 --> 00:34:32,766 - He just smirked. 780 00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:34,202 Then he said, if I reported him, 781 00:34:34,246 --> 00:34:35,769 he would tell everyone I was "not just a half-breed 782 00:34:35,812 --> 00:34:39,033 but a homo," and that he knew the school trustees. 783 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:41,644 He could kill my scholarship in a phone call. 784 00:34:41,688 --> 00:34:43,081 - Mm. 785 00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:47,433 And so you did not support April's accusation? 786 00:34:48,738 --> 00:34:52,481 - No, to my lasting shame. 787 00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:55,702 - And even today, is testifying 788 00:34:55,745 --> 00:34:58,139 against a sitting judge, 789 00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:00,098 a candidate for state attorney general, 790 00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:03,188 a good career move for an assistant district attorney? 791 00:35:03,231 --> 00:35:05,886 - I wouldn't think so. 792 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:08,584 - So why are you testifying today? 793 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,545 - I am trying to right 794 00:35:12,588 --> 00:35:16,679 the worst moral lapse of my life-- 795 00:35:16,723 --> 00:35:18,725 my silence. 796 00:35:20,944 --> 00:35:23,164 My failure to come forward on April's behalf 797 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,732 haunts me to this day. 798 00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:42,140 - Okay, Tommy, hold the fort. This'll all be over soon. 799 00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:49,190 - Isaiah, looking a little pasty. 800 00:35:49,234 --> 00:35:51,584 Trying to get back at me because I never tipped you 801 00:35:51,627 --> 00:35:53,542 for bussing my trays? 802 00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:55,153 - At least you're consistent, Chip. 803 00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:58,199 Once an ass, always an ass. - Said the bottom to the top. 804 00:35:58,243 --> 00:35:59,592 - Excuse me? 805 00:35:59,635 --> 00:36:03,596 - You know, 30 years ago, a lot of guys didn't want 806 00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,251 even a closeted homo touching their food, 807 00:36:06,294 --> 00:36:08,209 but I stood up for you. 808 00:36:08,253 --> 00:36:12,518 Now that you're a double token sucking and jiving 809 00:36:12,561 --> 00:36:15,869 your way up the ladder, this is how you repay me? 810 00:36:15,912 --> 00:36:18,219 - Did you feel anything 811 00:36:18,263 --> 00:36:20,178 watching April fall apart on the stand? 812 00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:21,614 - She got what she wanted that night. 813 00:36:21,657 --> 00:36:22,919 - She wanted to be raped? 814 00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:24,443 - It's a common women's fantasy, Holmes, 815 00:36:24,486 --> 00:36:27,010 not that a faggot like you would know what a woman wants. 816 00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:28,273 - The NYPD can't have witnesses... 817 00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:29,274 - This is inadmissible and illegal! 818 00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:30,362 - Working undercover. 819 00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,973 - Nobody at the NYPD or my office 820 00:36:33,016 --> 00:36:34,627 asked Mr. Holmes to do this. 821 00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:36,542 - How did you come to record this? 822 00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:38,457 - When Gallagher came into the men's room, 823 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:40,154 I sensed he was going to threaten me, 824 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,329 so I hit record. 825 00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,157 - Permissible under New York state law. 826 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:47,161 - This is out of context men's room talk. 827 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,467 You cannot allow it, Judge. 828 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:52,166 - Actually, I can and I will. 829 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:58,955 830 00:36:58,999 --> 00:37:00,566 - Gallagher's taking a deal? 831 00:37:00,609 --> 00:37:02,263 - He doesn't want that tape to get out. 832 00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:04,439 - He'll end his campaign and plead to sexual misconduct. 833 00:37:04,483 --> 00:37:06,963 - How much time? - A year under house arrest. 834 00:37:07,007 --> 00:37:08,922 - Figures, judge gets off easy. 835 00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:10,576 - It's not my call. 836 00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:12,099 The eighth floor is very sensitive 837 00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,492 to being perceived as using their power 838 00:37:13,535 --> 00:37:15,624 to punish political rivals. - Carisi, we get it. 839 00:37:15,668 --> 00:37:16,886 Your hands were tied. 840 00:37:16,930 --> 00:37:18,105 - Yeah, we live in divisive times. 841 00:37:18,148 --> 00:37:19,106 Gallagher has a lot of supporters... 842 00:37:20,455 --> 00:37:21,935 Happy to see a conspiracy against their hero. 843 00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:23,066 - Hey, well, at least he's off the bench 844 00:37:23,110 --> 00:37:25,199 and on ankle bracelet. 845 00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:27,332 About to close this out. 846 00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:35,427 - Are you ready to allocute, Judge Gallagher? 847 00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:37,646 - I am. 848 00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:41,215 Today I plead guilty to sexual misconduct. 849 00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:44,044 What I thought was consensual I now understand 850 00:37:44,087 --> 00:37:47,482 was perceived as coercive and hurtful actions. 851 00:37:47,526 --> 00:37:49,658 - I understand there's a deal? 852 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:50,964 - We've agreed to the DA's offer 853 00:37:51,007 --> 00:37:53,532 of one year to be served under house arrest. 854 00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:56,491 - Mr. Carisi, are you comfortable with this? 855 00:37:56,535 --> 00:38:00,190 - My office is satisfied, Your Honor. 856 00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:06,327 - Well, I'm not. 857 00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:12,507 Judge Gallagher, you come from a good family, 858 00:38:12,551 --> 00:38:16,119 a fine home, and yet despite all those advantages, 859 00:38:16,163 --> 00:38:20,602 upon achieving power, you abused it habitually. 860 00:38:22,125 --> 00:38:24,476 So in the interest of true justice 861 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,347 for the women you've abused, 862 00:38:26,391 --> 00:38:30,177 I hereby order you to serve your one year sentence 863 00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:33,615 in a jail cell. - What? 864 00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:35,356 - It's fine. - You can't do that. 865 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,098 We had a deal! - You did. 866 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:41,449 And as you well understand, the bench has inherent powers 867 00:38:41,493 --> 00:38:44,409 in these situations. 868 00:38:44,452 --> 00:38:46,411 869 00:38:46,454 --> 00:38:51,198 The long arm of the law can work both ways. 870 00:38:52,591 --> 00:38:55,768 You're remanded. 871 00:38:55,811 --> 00:38:58,074 Take Mr. Gallagher into custody. 872 00:38:58,118 --> 00:38:59,511 - It's fine. Don't worry. 873 00:38:59,554 --> 00:39:01,426 I will be in touch shortly. 874 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:14,177 875 00:39:16,615 --> 00:39:18,138 - How long till he's out on appeal? 876 00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:19,357 - I don't care. 877 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,358 It was worth it to see the blood 878 00:39:20,401 --> 00:39:22,142 drain out of his face. 879 00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:24,013 - He just got a taste of his own medicine. 880 00:39:24,057 --> 00:39:25,450 - Wouldn't have happened without you, Counselor. 881 00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:27,060 You were brave to get on the stand. 882 00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:28,409 - The women were. I wasn't. 883 00:39:28,453 --> 00:39:30,585 What would have been brave-- if I'd taken a stand 884 00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:32,761 30 years ago. - Take the win, Counselor. 885 00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:34,459 Listen, you feel the need for penance, 886 00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:36,025 every case Gallagher ever dismissed 887 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:37,331 is now up for review. 888 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:38,767 - Sounds like we have some digging to do. 889 00:39:38,811 --> 00:39:42,118 - Excuse me. I'll try not to gloat. 890 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,648 - You all seem pleased with yourselves. 891 00:39:49,691 --> 00:39:51,432 This was just the first round. 892 00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:53,565 - You know what I don't understand? 893 00:39:53,608 --> 00:39:56,437 Rita, what the hell were you thinking defending him? 894 00:39:56,481 --> 00:39:59,658 - Read the room, Olivia. 895 00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:02,269 The way the courts are packed, Gallagher's side, 896 00:40:02,312 --> 00:40:06,447 these guys and women-- the next 30 years, 897 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:09,189 every appeal all the way to the Supreme Court. 898 00:40:09,232 --> 00:40:12,671 The fix is in. - That's why we keep fighting. 899 00:40:12,714 --> 00:40:15,151 - Not if they won't let you in the ring. 900 00:40:16,544 --> 00:40:20,069 Olivia, you keep staying on the wrong side of this, 901 00:40:20,113 --> 00:40:23,508 you're gonna be marginalized for the rest of your career. 902 00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:26,293 My advice... 903 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:31,341 Lie back and pretend you're enjoying it. 904 00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:58,325 68643

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