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JAYE GRIFFITHS: May 2023.
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Britain welcomes
a new King and Queen.
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Huge cheer going up.
Wow.
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And there we are. That's why.
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Joining them on the Palace balcony
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was Charles's youngest brother,
Edward, and his wife, Sophie.
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I think Edward finds himself
in a position
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that he probably didn't expect
to be in.
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Go back a decade,
and he was nowhere to be seen.
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There was no room
for Edward and Sophie in those days.
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But it's clear
from that balcony scene
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that he really is
part of the core team now.
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Prince Edward
is 14th in line to the throne,
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and never expected
to be a front-line royal.
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The youngest
of the Queen's children,
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he had much less pressure
put on him.
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But things didn't always go smoothly
for the baby of the family.
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The newspapers smelt blood.
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Edward couldn't hack it
in the Marines.
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I mean, what a great story.
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His controversial career choices...
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It's A Royal Knockout.
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Certainly, in the pantheon
of great royal mess-ups,
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this is absolutely up there.
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..and self-inflicted gaffes...
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Well, thanks for sounding
so bloody enthusiastic (!)
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..landed him in trouble.
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Edward is emerging as one
of the great bleaters of our times.
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But over the last two decades,
there has been a transformation,
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and he has carved out one of
the most successful royal careers.
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He's made mistakes
when he was younger,
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but he's actually learned
from those mistakes,
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which is not true of all royals.
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And after Prince Philip died,
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King Charles awarded Edward
his father's dukedom.
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It is seen as a fitting reward
for all the years of service.
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And while other members
of the family
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have stepped away
from being working royals...
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Have you spoken to Prince Andrew?
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..Edward and his wife Sophie
have been the ones to step up.
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Very hard-working, very loyal,
very willing to support the Crown.
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Prince Edward will be central
to this new royal era.
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Suddenly, he's almost like
the great hope
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for the next stage
of the royal family's evolution.
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So, just how
has he transformed himself
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from petulant prince
to dependable duke?
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I think, in the future,
he will be Charles's right-hand man.
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Mr Reliable.
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On the 10th March 2023,
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Prince Edward received
a very special birthday present.
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His brother, King Charles,
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had made him
the new Duke of Edinburgh.
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A very special
and slightly overwhelming day
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for now my wife and Duchess.
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It certainly wasn't Edward's destiny
to be Duke of Edinburgh.
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It's a weighty title,
it's an important and historic title
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and, of course, most people
associate the Duke of Edinburgh
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with the late Prince Philip.
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Edward hasn't had the prominence
of his siblings
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or, indeed, William and Harry
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because of where he is
in the line of succession.
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On Prince Philip's death in 2021,
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his titles passed to his eldest son,
Charles.
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But Edward revealed
in a BBC interview
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before Charles became King
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that it was Philip's wish
for him to inherit his dukedom.
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It was a sort of pipe dream
of my father's,
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so, er...
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And, of course, you know,
it will depend on whether or not
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the Prince of Wales, when he becomes
King, whether he'll do that.
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The title was created for Philip.
It was very special.
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It was something that he treasured
and he wanted to give to Edward,
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not to his other sons.
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Charles's decision
was undoubtedly in recognition
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of the closeness
between father and son.
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I don't think any royal commentator
expected Charles
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to go against the wishes
of his father.
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I think also, it was a way for
the royal family to say, you know,
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he's going to be important
in the way that his father was.
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He would have done it, I'm sure,
wanting to reward his brother
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for all of his years of duty and
service and loyalty to the Crown.
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The honour also reflected
the remarkable rise
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of Edward and his wife Sophie
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and their growing importance
as working royals.
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It must have been really difficult
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for Edward to give up his dreams,
his ambitions,
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to become a full-time working royal,
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but I do think
it was the making of him.
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Go back to, say,
the Queen's Diamond Jubilee,
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2012, we all remember that.
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Who was up on the balcony?
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There was no room
for Edward and Sophie in those days.
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And yet here we are now,
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and suddenly,
he's almost like the great hope
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for the next stage
of the royal family's evolution.
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But Edward and Sophie
haven't always found it easy
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being part of The Firm.
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The idea that Meghan
is the first person to have problems
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marrying into that family
is obviously nonsense.
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When it was revealed that Edward
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was first going out
with Sophie Rhys-Jones,
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he felt intolerable pressure
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and intrusion
into their relationship
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and into his privacy.
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He's made mistakes, he's become
the butt of numerous jokes,
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but he's come out of it.
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And with the death of the Queen
and Prince Philip,
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and the departure in recent years
of so many senior royals,
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it is Prince Edward who has
taken on ever more royal duties.
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Charles always wanted
to slim down the monarchy,
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but it's sort of slimmed itself down
without him having to do anything.
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Everything changed, really,
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because of the Harry decision
to go overseas
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and what's happened
with the scandal over Prince Andrew.
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It's now imperative
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that we give this very senior,
very important title
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to the prince who remains,
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the prince who isn't
causing a problem,
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the prince who we can rely on.
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Edward and Sophie's
strong partnership
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make them an asset to the new king.
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It's essential for Charles
to have senior working royals
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like Edward and Sophie out there,
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front and centre, working hard,
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showing why the royal family
is still relevant.
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And in the absence
of Harry and Meghan,
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well, Edward and Sophie
are the new Harry and Meghan.
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As a new chapter in the royal family
begins,
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it will be Prince Edward,
the late Queen's youngest child,
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who will be thrust
into the limelight.
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When he was born,
he was third in line to the throne.
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It was never very likely that he was
ever gonna have this major role.
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But all that has changed
in the past couple of years.
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He's pretty hard working
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and has just gotten on
with the job quietly,
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without making too much fuss.
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But that wasn't always the case.
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There were many disasters
in his younger days
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as he grew from a pampered prince
to an unpopular royal.
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Royal princes don't leave
the military, they do their duty.
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But Edward didn't.
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If there is one cringe moment
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in history of
the modern British royal family...
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Thanks.
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..it's It's A Royal Knockout.
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JAYE GRIFFITHS:
On the 10th March 1964,
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a small but expectant crowd gather
at the gates of Buckingham Palace.
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About an hour ago,
we got the first news
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that the Queen's fourth baby
might be born tonight.
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At 8.20pm, the news that they had
been waiting for arrived.
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Prince Edward, her youngest child,
had been born.
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The Queen always referred to Andrew
and Edward as her second family.
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When the Queen came to the throne,
of course,
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she was a young woman
with two young children.
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She didn't have much time,
quite frankly,
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for motherhood
with either Charles or Anne.
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Edward and Andrew had
a completely different childhood.
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They were spoilt in a way
that Charles and Anne simply weren't
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because they had their parents' time
and attention.
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The Queen gave birth to Edward
when she was 37,
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and she decided that this time,
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she was going to do things
differently.
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She knew that this was gonna be
her last child,
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and she wanted to enjoy
his childhood and those early years
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as much as possible.
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He probably did get
special treatment,
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but the baby of the bunch
always does, don't they?
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And when it came to advice
about parenting,
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it's claimed that the Queen
got some of her information
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from an unusual source.
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The Queen was also someone who was
an avid reader of women's magazines
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and took huge interest in new ideas.
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She wanted Prince Philip there
at the birth,
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and he, as the modern man
that he was, was happy to agree.
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When Philip decided to be in
at the birth of Edward,
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that was revolutionary.
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I mean, in previous generations,
that had never happened.
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As well as attending the birth,
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and in contrast to how he was
with his two older children,
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Philip would become
a very hands-on parent.
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Prince Edward was
his father Philip's favourite child
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simply because
Edward arrived at the point
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at which his father decided
to be much more involved
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with his children.
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Philip would read bedtime stories,
some of which he made up himself.
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Philip would help decorate
the nursery where Edward slept
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with model ships and aeroplanes.
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He made sure his schedule
was structured
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so that he could be there
to help with tea time, bath time.
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Apparently, Nanny Mabel
always slightly feared
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when Prince Philip
would come up to the nursery
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because he would kind of
rough and tumble with the kids,
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and he'd be wrestling
with Prince Andrew,
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and Prince Edward
would be jumping on top of him,
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and then Nanny Mabel would struggle
to get the kids down to sleep.
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For most of us,
a father being involved
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with the day-to-day care
of a baby and a toddler,
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there's nothing strange about that,
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but in the royal family,
that was quite something.
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The Queen and Prince Philip's
close relationship with Edward
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was captured in this remarkable
fly-on-the-wall documentary.
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First broadcast in 1969,
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it provides an intriguing glimpse
of the young Prince Edward.
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The 1969 documentary Royal Family
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really was a peek
behind Palace doors.
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And at one stage,
there's a memorable moment
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when he's up close
with his big brother Charles,
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who's labouring over the cello.
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SCRATCHY NOTES
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One of the strings breaks,
and it catches Edward,
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and you can see his lips
are trembling.
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STRING CLUNKS
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Oh!
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All right?
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Did it hit you?
Yes.
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Why did you do that for?
Sorry, sorry.
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And here you had this boy
doing his utmost not to lose it,
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not to cry
in front of the television,
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and it's a magnificent example of
grace under pressure, if you like.
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Some of the nicest stuff
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is with the Queen
and a very young Edward
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just out sweet shopping,
which is a nice, normal scene,
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with a film crew in tow.
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What are you going to have?
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An ice cream.
This is what he really would like.
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They always go
straight for the ice creams.
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Would you like to go and get one?
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The take-out from it,
for a lot of people,
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was how normal and well adjusted
Edward had been,
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and I think that's a lot to with
the fact that Philip and the Queen
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spent much more time with him
as he was growing up.
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The documentary also showed
the close bond
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between Edward and his father.
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The Royal Family documentary
was a ratings hit,
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and was seen
by more than 30 million people.
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However,
some felt it had been a mistake
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to grant such unprecedented access.
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I believe it was
a strategic mistake.
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It was the beginning of the end
of any kind of magic.
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The big debate over it
is the mystique.
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Do you think there should be
any mystery about the royal family?
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And once you sort of open the door,
can you ever really shut it?
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Once you let daylight into
that magic, it is a slippery slope.
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Concerns that the documentary
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may have diminished respect
for the monarchy
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meant it has not been rebroadcast
in its entirety for over 40 years.
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Edward's next public performance
would be in 1972
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when he started prep school.
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Andrew wasn't a great success
at school,
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but Edward actually was.
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He was quite academically bright.
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The Queen had had to leave
the education of Charles and Anne
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in the hands of others,
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but she was determined to be more
involved in Edward's schooling.
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Heatherdown Prep School
was near Windsor,
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so he could see his mother,
the Queen, more often.
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The Queen suddenly found herself
going regularly to school meetings,
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to meet his teachers,
collecting him at the weekends,
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driving him there and back.
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I mean, highly unusual for a monarch
to have done anything like that.
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Edward's prep school started
his lifelong love of the theatre.
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It was whilst he was at Heatherdown
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that he apparently got
the acting bug.
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He appeared in a school production
of The Wind In The Willows,
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and he played Mole,
and he got very warmly applause,
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applause led by the Queen.
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He seemed to have gone down a storm,
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and so he was seen as a bit
of a rising star in the family.
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After prep school, Edward followed
his older brothers to Gordonstoun,
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his father's former public school.
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And, controversially,
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Edward was accepted into one
of the country's top universities.
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He got into university,
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having scraped through
with three or four A-levels.
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He didn't have
what would be the normal threshold
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to get into Cambridge.
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It's fair to say
that the royals don't have to go
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through the clearing process
like the rest of us.
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They definitely get
special treatment.
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Hoorah, hoorah!
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At Cambridge, Edward threw himself
into student life.
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He was active
in the university drama society
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and organised the student RAG week.
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Anyway,
you're in good company today.
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You have probably the most
professional crawlers in the world
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standing in front of you.
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He wasn't massively academic.
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Where he really excelled
was on the stage.
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I think Edward
was a competent actor,
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rather than someone
who was gonna be marked out
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as a potential Hollywood star.
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And despite his love of the arts,
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the career Edward decided on
after university
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was to join the Royal Marines.
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Edward, from the earliest,
from when he was...
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you know, he was probably
sort of eight or ten,
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he was absolutely adamant that
that would be his military career.
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There was a real sort of sense
of that naval tradition
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in the men
of the Mountbatten-Windsor family.
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The royal family
is a military family
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and, specifically, a naval family.
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The Royal Marines, of course,
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are the fighting soldiers
of the Royal Navy.
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Edward was very athletic
and very sporty,
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so on paper, he was absolutely
perfect for the Marines.
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The Royal Marines had sponsored
Edward's tuition at Cambridge
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on condition that he serve
five years with the regiment.
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But much to everyone's surprise,
Edward quit after just four months.
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His decision to quit
was very, very controversial.
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Royal princes don't leave
the military, they do their duty.
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But Edward didn't.
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His training officers had no doubt
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he had the physical strength
and resource
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to complete what is said to be
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the hardest military training
in the world.
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The truth is, he wasn't enjoying it.
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Not cos he couldn't do it,
but because he couldn't enjoy the...
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everything else
that went with being
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with the Royal Marines in Devon.
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What was required of him to be
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absolutely devote-yourself-all-in
to become a Marine,
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was just, for him,
in antipathy to being a prince.
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Edward's decision
to leave the Marines
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prompted a storm of criticism.
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The newspapers smelt blood.
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Edward couldn't hack it
in the Marines.
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I mean, what a great story.
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And it wasn't just the national
tabloids that were outraged.
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He was ridiculed by
his former Marine colleagues
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who just called him soft
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and thought he, you know...
he wasn't up to it.
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And he had a bit of a tough time
within the royal family, too.
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It was the Queen who, apparently,
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viewed it
in a very, very dismal light.
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She said she thought it
was a dereliction of duty.
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Although
he had disappointed his family
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with his decision
to leave the Marines,
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Edward received support
from an unexpected quarter.
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This was deeply personal
for Prince Philip,
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because he was Captain General
of the Royal Marines.
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It was well reported then
that Philip, in particular,
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was furious with his son,
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that he'd sort of let him down
and let the family down.
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In fact, the opposite was true.
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Edward's father found
a very public way
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to show his support.
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Just days after Edward had left,
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father and son were pictured going
to church together at Sandringham.
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The royal family
very rarely do something
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where they're not aware of
its significance
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or how it will be seen
by the public.
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To have his father there,
supporting him,
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was a really big step
on Philip's part,
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and I think
all went into really cementing
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this very, very close relationship
between father and son.
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Philip was very supportive,
and he cleverly turned it round
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by making it very clear to everyone
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that he thought
it was a very brave decision.
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It was quite a surprise, and
something of a reversal of roles,
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for the Queen to be really quite
upset at Edward's decision to leave,
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and Philip to be understanding.
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If Edward's
dropping out from the Marines
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was unprecedented
for a member of the royal family,
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what he did next would break
even more royal conventions.
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After Edward left the Marines,
I think,
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because he was a bit of a lost soul,
he thought,
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"I've got to do something
spectacular, something big."
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I think Edward
was struggling a little bit
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to find a purpose, to find a role.
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Edward decided to produce
a television charity event
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involving his family
and various celebrities.
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It's A Royal Knockout in 1987
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was Edward's sort of first
real foray into TV production.
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Edward decided that he,
Prince Andrew,
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the Duchess of York - Fergie -
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and Princess Anne
would captain four teams
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that would "compete"
against each other at Alton Towers,
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all dressed up in Tudor regalia.
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The idea was to have some fun,
some silly competitions,
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based on It's A Knockout,
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which was a big TV hit
in the '70s and '80s.
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It's A Royal Knockout was watched by
18 million people in the UK
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and made £1.5 million for charity.
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But it was not the success
Edward hoped for.
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If there is one cringe moment
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in the history of
the modern British royal family,
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it's It's A Royal Knockout.
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Certainly, in the pantheon
of great royal mess-ups,
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this is absolutely up there.
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If you want to remove
the mystique of the royal family,
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get them dressed up
in fake medieval costumes
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and then have a big knock-about
competition outside,
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in the pouring rain.
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It just had "PR disaster"
written all over it.
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But worse was to come in
the interview after the filming...
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First of all, I have to apology if
I go to sleep in the middle of this.
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..when Edward was met by
a less-than-enthusiastic press pack.
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He'd invited the press
and the media to come along
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because he thought we'd all write
wonderful, glowing pieces
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about what
a brilliant idea this was.
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But unfortunately,
when we got there,
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we were barred
from actually seeing anything.
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I know the captains
have enjoyed themselves...
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..I only hope
that you've enjoyed yourselves.
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Have you?
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Yes, we have.
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Well, thanks for sounding
so bloody enthusiastic (!)
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What have you been doing
in here all day?
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It's been cold.
You may well ask.
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Have you been watching it?
Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah?
What did you think of it?
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LAUGHTER
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Thanks (!)
I thought it was good.
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Then the royal walkout.
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He is reported to have said,
as he left Alton Towers,
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"One of these days,
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"you lot are going to have to
learn some manners."
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Well, of course,
that forever became the story -
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the petulant prince who throws
his toys out of the pram.
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It did present
an extraordinary insight
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into Edward's character
at that time,
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and the pratfalls of being
a member of the royal family
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and getting involved in
light entertainment.
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It's A Royal Knockout provoked
a storm of negative publicity.
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But things got even worse
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when Edward started
his own TV production company.
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Over the next decade,
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he would continually be
in the papers
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for all the wrong reasons.
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Ardent Productions, in many ways,
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was the peak of the embarrassing
things that Edward did.
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It was just hopeless.
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And while Edward's career lurched
from one PR disaster to another,
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he was, at least, luckier in love.
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Edward and Sophie were friends for
many years before they fell in love.
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We manage to have a good laugh
about things most of the time.
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And we happen to love each other,
which is the most important thing.
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JAYE GRIFFITHS:
In June 1999, Prince Edward married
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his long-term girlfriend
Sophie Rhys-Jones.
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Among the thousands of people
lining the streets,
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are visitors
from all over the world.
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I think the world had an expectation
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of what this wedding
was going to look like,
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having seen Diana and Charles's
at St Paul's,
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having seen Sarah and Andrew's.
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It was at St George's Chapel
at Windsor Castle,
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which we now know, also,
Harry and Meghan got married there,
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Charles and Camilla
had the blessing there.
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They did set a precedent.
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You know, in a way, they are kind of
trailblazers for more modest events.
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Edward and Sophie
might have had a reason
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for wanting a different kind
of royal wedding.
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They opted for
a much quieter wedding.
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And I think that was partly
because they were already thinking,
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"We want to have a life,
partly in the royal family,
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"but also outside the royal family,
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"so we're not gonna make this
a huge thing."
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Edward and Sophie were friends
for many years
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before they fell in love.
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One of the things
that Edward was attracted to
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was the normality of
Sophie Rhys-Jones, which, you know,
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she's not a European Princess,
she is not an aristo.
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Sophie Rhys-Jones
was a middle-class professional,
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who ran her own
successful PR company.
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Dare I ask you,
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what qualities you think
you both bring to this relationship?
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We manage to have a good laugh
about things most of the time.
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And we happen to love each other,
which is the most important thing.
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Great sense of humour,
very important.
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It's, very important, yes.
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Edward was acutely aware that,
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as a commoner -
for want of a better word -
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there were real challenges
that Sophie faced.
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We have to remember the 1990s
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was a really rocky decade
for the royal family.
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There was all sorts of stuff
going down - many divorces.
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Don't forget he'd watched
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Andrew's marriage with Sarah
ultimately crumble,
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seen what had happened to
Charles's marriage with Diana.
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There was insatiable interest
in his love life.
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He felt intolerable pressure
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and intrusion
into their relationship.
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In December 1993,
newspaper editors across the country
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received an extraordinary missive
from the Prince.
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Edward wrote a very heartfelt letter
to the press,
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actually in quite restrained terms,
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just asking that his private life,
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and Sophie's private life,
should be treated as private.
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"I'm taking this unusual step
of writing to you directly
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"in the hope of stopping
your reporters and photographers
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"from destroying
that part of my life
492
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,080
"that I'm entitled
to regard as private
493
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,440
"and, more importantly,
Sophie's life."
494
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,480
This plea for privacy was later
echoed by his nephew, Prince Harry,
495
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,720
when he sent a similar letter
to newspaper editors
496
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,160
over coverage of his relationship
with Meghan Markle.
497
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,520
But where that approach,
I think, differs from, say,
498
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840
Harry's approach
to protecting Meghan,
499
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,360
is that... Edward was conciliatory.
500
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,760
Edward, by contrast with Harry,
was much more restrained,
501
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200
but there were moments
when he complained bitterly
502
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720
about intrusion into his life.
503
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,520
Edward and Sophie
dated for several years
504
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,000
and had to contend with
relentless media pressure
505
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320
to announce their engagement.
506
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,400
Edward sort of said
he didn't want to hurry into it.
507
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,400
He wanted to make sure
that Sophie knew
508
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760
this was the life
that she wanted to live,
509
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,920
because it is a life
that involves sacrifice.
510
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,040
When he was pressed once
by the journalists
511
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,120
to say when he was gonna
pop the question to Sophie,
512
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,680
he just snapped at them.
513
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,640
I'm not saying anything at all,
I'm gonna keep quiet,
514
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,560
and if everybody
stops asking me the question,
515
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440
then who knows what might happen?
516
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,920
And how does Sophie Rhys-Jones...
517
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760
how did she manage in this
goldfish bowl that you talk about?
518
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,480
Did she find it very difficult?
Well, I can't speak for her.
519
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,080
So, I think he's irascible,
he snaps a bit -
520
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,560
just like his father -
but he doesn't hold a grudge.
521
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,720
I don't think...
He's not gonna make it, you know,
522
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,320
something that continues forever,
523
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,320
the way
Harry just can't let go of it.
524
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,840
When Edward did announce
his engagement to Sophie in 1999,
525
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840
it did little
to stop press intrusion.
526
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Sophie's found herself on the wrong
side of the tabloids more than once,
527
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,440
but I think,
probably the most humiliating
528
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,640
was just weeks before their wedding.
529
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,560
There was
a topless picture of Sophie
530
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280
which had been taken, privately,
531
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,520
by friends at Capital Radio
years before,
532
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,480
and someone gave that photo
to a newspaper,
533
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,680
which printed it on the front page.
534
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080
On this occasion, Edward wasn't
going to sort of sit back.
535
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,040
He took action
and made an official complaint
536
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,440
to the Press Complaints Commission,
which was upheld.
537
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,960
The Sun apologised
and also paid a significant donation
538
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,200
to Sophie's charities.
539
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,560
As well as intrusion
into their private lives,
540
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,600
Edward and Sophie would continually
attract negative headlines
541
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,120
as they try to combine
their royal duties
542
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,760
with independent careers.
543
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,080
There are parallels between
Sophie and Edward,
544
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,120
and Harry and Meghan.
545
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,440
I mean, Sophie and Edward
were the forerunners
546
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960
of trying to balance
their royal careers
547
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,360
with actual moneymaking careers.
548
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,600
In 1993,
Edward set up a television company -
549
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,240
Ardent Productions.
550
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,480
He was the first senior royal
to have a career outside The Firm.
551
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,200
Ardent Productions, in many ways,
was the peak
552
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760
of the embarrassing things
that Edward did.
553
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,960
It was just hopeless.
554
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,520
If the journalists sounded surprised
at Edward running a TV company,
555
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,320
it's probably because,
up to this point,
556
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,960
he had very little media experience.
557
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,520
After he left the Marines,
558
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,680
and the debacle of
It's A Royal Knockout,
559
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960
he'd taken a job in theatre.
560
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Edward got a job
at The Really Useful company -
561
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,400
Andrew Lloyd Webber's company -
562
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440
and the joke was
that he was the teaboy.
563
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,440
So, for the photocall
at the first day of work,
564
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,760
of course,
he turned up with the teabags.
565
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,280
Today, reporters wanting to know
566
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,720
what the Prince would actually do
567
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,600
got the answer from his new boss
over the stage-door intercom.
568
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,840
'It's the lowest rung
on the learning process
569
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,480
'of working in theatre,
570
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,400
'and he will have
no status whatsoever.
571
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280
'We will not be using him
in any PR capacity.'
572
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,560
He'd learned the rudiments,
if you like, of the business,
573
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,520
and he thought
he'd spotted a niche in the market.
574
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,600
He wanted to present
and make his own documentaries.
575
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,680
Edward's only other experience
was limited to this BBC documentary.
576
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,520
BALL CLATTERS
577
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680
Like real tennis, many people
have heard of the award scheme
578
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,400
but don't really know
what it's about.
579
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600
The Duke's Award was a programme
580
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,120
about his father's
Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme.
581
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,160
It also showcased Edward's awkward
interactions with the public.
582
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,760
A group of unemployed youngsters,
583
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,280
who could hardly afford
the award scheme record book,
584
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,800
are rehearsing a pantomime,
I believe, based on Cinderella.
585
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,640
What do we call you
when we sort of want to...
586
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,000
Do we say "Prince Edward" or...?
You do.
587
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Right, OK.
Simple as that.
588
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280
Now, Prince Edward,
you have a white badge,
589
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,240
I mean, what is that for?
That's the gold.
590
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,080
So you have actually done it,
have you? Yeah.
591
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,440
Right, that's nice. So what did you
think of it when you was doing it?
592
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,880
Well, it is Daddy's, isn't it?
593
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Come on, get a grip.
594
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,480
Presenting on television is an art.
595
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,640
Edward clearly had
very little of that.
596
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,480
You can't be, on the one hand,
matey Edward,
597
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,920
and the Queen's son -
598
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,240
with all of the stars and honours
that go with it - on the other,
599
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,040
and I think that
was another problem that he had.
600
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,040
He was trying to straddle
two worlds.
601
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520
And it wasn't just
Edward's presenting skills
602
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,600
which created problems.
603
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,960
He promised at one point
604
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
that he wouldn't use
his royal connections
605
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920
to make any films or TV shows.
606
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440
The problem for him was that people
were only commissioning -
607
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,640
or only wanted to commission -
programmes about the royal family.
608
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,120
In fact, he made a great series
of programmes
609
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,120
that were entirely based on
610
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,800
the royal family
and his connections.
611
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,360
And as this classic clip
from Saturday Live shows,
612
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480
Edward was routinely mocked
613
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,520
for his attempts
to mix royalty with show business.
614
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Hi! My name's Prince
"No But Seriously Though" Edward.
615
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Right, OK.
616
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Anyone here from Balmoral?
617
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,040
Yeah, OK!
618
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,680
Edward On Edward,
Ardent's documentary
619
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240
about Edward's great-uncle,
the Duke of Windsor,
620
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,920
would expose the challenges
621
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,440
of trying to be both a royal
and a television producer.
622
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840
I've often wondered about
the appalling shock
623
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880
my great-uncle and namesake,
His Majesty King Edward VIII,
624
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,520
inflicted upon family
when he abdicated his throne
625
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120
to marry Wallis Simpson
60 years ago.
626
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,400
One of Prince Edward's
most famous commissions
627
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,440
was a documentary called
Edward On Edward -
628
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880
which was about the Queen's uncle,
Edward VIII.
629
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
And he met Hitler before the war,
630
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880
and fair to say,
a very controversial figure.
631
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,000
Edward interviewed,
or tried to interview,
632
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,040
someone who was
the last living witness
633
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,560
to the meeting
between Edward VIII and Hitler.
634
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,200
But he never could quite
get round to the killer question,
635
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,720
and the killer question was,
well, what did Edward say to Hitler?
636
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080
Well, fundamentally,
Prince Ed was not a journalist,
637
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360
so he shouldn't be doing
that interview, really.
638
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,560
It's about his mother's uncle
639
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640
who had a very controversial meeting
with Hitler.
640
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,040
As a member of the royal family,
641
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520
there's lots of things
you might not want to talk about,
642
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280
or you can't talk about,
643
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,800
or you can't do.
644
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,560
You're really, really restricted,
and you can't be impartial.
645
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,720
As his career in television
struggled to take off,
646
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Edward faced increasing criticism
that he was using his royal status
647
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,080
to try and help his ailing business.
648
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,800
You would've thought
he would have got plenty of work
649
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,280
being the Queen's son
650
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,920
and would have been able to win
any number of contracts.
651
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,280
It didn't stand in his favour.
652
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200
He wanted it to work,
he needed it to work,
653
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,680
and he became increasingly
frustrated when it didn't.
654
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280
Honestly,
that was one of the great issues -
655
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,000
was he exploiting his royal family
connection to make money?
656
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560
And on the surface,
it seemed almost certainly he was.
657
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Prince Edward's new married status
658
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,760
means extra responsibility.
659
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,040
He's now using
his Windsor connections
660
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,800
to earn cash for his own company,
661
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,400
raising eyebrows
for breaking royal practice.
662
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,080
Edward is emerging as one of
the great bleaters of our times,
663
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,360
and he is inheriting
his father's mantle
664
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,880
for putting his foot in it.
665
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,200
Following this week's barrage
of press criticism,
666
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360
he and the Countess of Wessex
will have to tread extra carefully
667
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
to show that they do know
where to draw the line
668
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000
between private and royal business.
669
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960
And it wasn't just Edward,
670
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,760
it was also his wife Sophie,
who had a PR company,
671
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,240
and there were questions being asked
about how she was using her name,
672
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,840
which raised a lot of unease
within the royal family.
673
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,560
In 2001, Edward and Sophie
were caught in two separate scandals
674
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080
which effectively ended
their careers.
675
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Sophie was duped by Mazher Mahmood,
676
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,280
the now discredited
undercover reporter
677
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240
for the News of the World,
known as "The Fake Sheikh".
678
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,040
She was secretly recorded
679
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,680
making indiscreet remarks
about the royal family.
680
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Sophie allegedly called
the Queen "an old dear"
681
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600
and said Charles and Camilla were
waiting for the Queen Mother to die
682
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,920
before they married.
683
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,000
While these alleged marks were
embarrassing for the royal family,
684
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,680
it was Sophie's insinuation
685
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
that her royal ties
were good for business
686
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,800
that was the most damaging.
687
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,000
It's this comment
688
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,400
which has caused particular concern
in royal circles.
689
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,400
It's known Prince Charles
had previously warned
690
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240
about Sophie's potential
conflict of interest.
691
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,120
You've got the spotlight
on the Wessexes
692
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,800
sort of for all the wrong reasons,
693
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,720
and this big question
being thrown up -
694
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,240
can you have working royals
695
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560
who are representing
the Queen and Crown
696
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,960
and cashing in
on their own independent projects?
697
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Just five months later,
Edward and his company Ardent
698
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,000
would be embroiled in
an even more embarrassing scandal.
699
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,400
One of the nails on the coffin
for Ardent, without a doubt,
700
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,800
was its decision
to stay up at St Andrews
701
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080
and continue filming Prince William.
702
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,640
The media and the Palace
had hammered out this agreement,
703
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,360
that in exchange for access
from time to time,
704
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,320
that both princes would be allowed
to enjoy their school
705
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,480
and university life untroubled.
706
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Somehow, Edward didn't get the memo.
707
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040
The world's media were invited
to film this footage
708
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000
of Charles and William
at the university.
709
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,680
After which, the press
and photographers left St Andrews.
710
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
The university said
it was Prince William
711
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,480
who spotted the film crew
on the campus.
712
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680
They were ordered off and a
complaint lodged with Prince Edward,
713
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,440
but the camera team later returned
to film near the student residence.
714
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,760
And when Charles found out,
he absolutely hit the roof
715
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440
because it went against that
agreement he had with the press.
716
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,320
Well, it's all incredibly funny,
isn't it?
717
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,320
I mean, here you have
the national tabloid press
718
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,000
staying well away from William,
honouring every agreement pledged,
719
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320
only to have his privacy invaded
by Uncle Edward.
720
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,960
And it was an absolute humiliation.
721
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,400
And one, really,
from which Ardent never recovered.
722
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Do you have anything to say, sir,
about your company? No.
723
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:16,400
I haven't. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much indeed.
724
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,120
No, we've said all that's due
been said,
725
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,800
and I don't think there is any need
to say any more. Thank you.
726
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,400
At the beginning of 2002,
727
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,400
it was announced
both Edward and Sophie
728
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,280
would be given up their careers
to become full-time working royals.
729
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560
Edward made
the surprise announcement
730
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,640
at the start of
the Queen's Golden Jubilee.
731
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000
The Queen effectively asked
Edward and Sophie
732
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,840
to give up their careers
733
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000
and to become full-time
working royals.
734
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920
And as an effective sweetener,
735
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,200
she gave them £250,000
in compensation, if you like.
736
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,960
I always knew in the back of my mind
737
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,280
that one day,
things would have to change.
738
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,400
Well, that day has come.
739
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,240
And it's not just for me,
but also for my wife.
740
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,400
I think you can draw parallels,
absolutely, with the Sussexes.
741
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,840
Harry also wanted to strike out,
do things a little bit differently,
742
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160
and just as Edward found, you know,
these parameters are quite rigid.
743
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,920
They don't really budge,
and kick against them too hard,
744
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,080
and you get badly wounded
in the process.
745
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600
And maybe his own experiences
caused him
746
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,360
to speak with some empathy
in this interview
747
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560
with US news network CNN
748
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,040
about Prince Harry's decision
to leave the royal family.
749
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160
It's a very sad. Erm...
750
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480
And, listen... weird that
we've all been there before.
751
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,000
We've all had, you know,
752
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,320
excessive intrusion
and attention in our lives,
753
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,640
and we've all dealt with it
in certainly different ways.
754
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,360
And, listen,
we wish them the very best of luck.
755
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,080
It's a really hard decision.
756
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Some observers believed
returning to the royal fold
757
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
has strengthened
Edward and Sophie's relationship.
758
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,240
Next year, Edward becomes
the first of the Queen's children
759
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,200
to celebrate
his silver wedding anniversary.
760
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,080
I think it's hugely significant
that Edward is the only one
761
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160
of the Queen's children
not to divorce.
762
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160
She ultimately had to give up
that independence
763
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,760
in order to make this marriage work,
764
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,280
in order to become
a successful working royal.
765
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Queen Elizabeth regarded
that marriage was a marathon,
766
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,720
not a sprint.
767
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,960
And so the fact that Edward
and Sophie's marriage has endured,
768
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,440
and seemingly a happy marriage,
769
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,280
was a source of great happiness
to her.
770
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,040
It is the ultimate love story
because Edward has stood by her
771
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,880
through all of those decisions,
he made sure that he protected her.
772
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,880
While Edward and Sophie
might have been reluctant royals,
773
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080
they have now fully embraced
their position within The Firm.
774
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,880
I think Charles recognises
775
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360
that they've completely
transformed themselves
776
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,920
and are able to do an important job
for him and for the monarchy.
777
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,840
He's made mistakes
when he was younger,
778
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120
but he's actually learned
from those mistakes,
779
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,800
which is not true of all the royals.
780
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,480
In 2003, not long after becoming
a full-time working royal,
781
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,280
Edward takes on
an even more important role,
782
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,280
when he becomes a proud parent.
783
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,680
On those big family occasions,
784
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,320
when we see Edward and Sophie
with James and Louise,
785
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,280
it's clear that they are a really
happy, successful family unit.
786
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,120
JAYE GRIFFITHS:
King Charles III's Coronation,
787
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520
and joining him
on the Palace balcony -
788
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,320
the royal family,
the embodiment of this new era.
789
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040
That was a balcony
of working royals.
790
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,200
It really thrust
a fierce beam of light,
791
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,160
if you like, on Edward and Sophie.
792
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,280
CROWD CHEERS
793
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920
They're supporting the King.
794
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,960
They're joining those key players
centre stage.
795
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,760
Edward's been the understated royal
for so many years,
796
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,720
but it's clear
from the balcony scene
797
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960
that he really is
part of the core team now.
798
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Edward also secured a prime seat
at the Coronation Concert
799
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,600
and, as this BBC clip shows,
was happy to join in the laughter
800
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,920
when surprised
by an unexpected guest.
801
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Thank you to our fantastic orchestra
and to all our wonderful performers.
802
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,080
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
803
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,360
Kermit the frog popped up.
804
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680
It showed that Edward's got
a really good sense of humour.
805
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,840
He's very up for taking the mickey
out of himself.
806
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920
And I think we sort of
associate Edward
807
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,920
with somebody who could take a joke,
808
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,280
having been the butt of one
so many times in the past.
809
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680
In 2002, Edward and Sophie
810
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,920
became full-time members
of the royal family.
811
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,280
And a year later, the couple's
first child Louise was born.
812
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,800
Sophie had been rushed to hospital
for an emergency caesarean
813
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,080
while Edward was abroad
on royal business.
814
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680
I've seen Sophie. She's doing well.
815
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,640
She's also had
a bit of a fraught time with it,
816
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,640
but she's recovering well,
I'm glad to say.
817
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,280
I think Edward, as much as possible,
818
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,680
has tried to be
a very modern dad.
819
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,120
Of course, he couldn't be there
for his daughter's birth,
820
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,000
but he absolutely was there
for his son's birth.
821
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Edward and Sophie's
second child James was born
822
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,600
four years later in 2007.
823
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,680
And Edward seems
to have been determined
824
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,000
to be a very hands-on parent.
825
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,480
I think the fact that Edward
826
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520
had such a loving, secure
and happy childhood,
827
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,720
because he had so much
of his parents' attention,
828
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240
he has wanted to echo that.
829
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,240
He's been there at sports days,
at speech days,
830
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560
for graduation,
for his daughter's A-levels.
831
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,800
He and Sophie took Louise
for her first day at St Andrews.
832
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,920
Edward's own grounded upbringing
833
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,160
prepared him for becoming
a more down-to-earth royal.
834
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640
One of the remarks he once made was,
835
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160
"I want to be treated for what I do
not for who I am."
836
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Edward and Sophie
are relatable in a way
837
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,560
that most of the other royals
are not.
838
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Simply because he makes it
very clear
839
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,520
that ordinary life appeals to him.
840
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,640
And Edward, the modern father,
841
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,760
made one decision for his children
842
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,720
which would have
the greatest bearing on their lives.
843
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,040
The most important thing Edward did
when his children was born
844
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,920
was not saddle them with HRH titles,
845
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,800
so neither his son nor his daughter
are His or Her Royal Highness.
846
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Edward's role as a parent
is really interesting
847
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,600
because I think
he is trying to enable his children
848
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,360
to do what he was unable to do.
849
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200
He took a leaf out of
his sister Anne's book
850
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:20,280
who famously gave Peter
and Zara Phillips, her two children,
851
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,760
no title at all.
852
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,120
It enabled them,
and it continues to enable them,
853
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,440
to have very straightforward,
ordinary lives.
854
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,000
And he wasn't afraid
to show his emotions
855
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,880
when family tragedy struck.
856
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,800
We remember how he spoke
after Prince Philip's death,
857
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880
very warmly about his father.
858
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,800
It's been a bit of a shock.
859
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,280
However much one tries to prepare
oneself for something like this,
860
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160
it's still a dreadful shock,
861
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,200
and we're still trying to
come to terms with that.
862
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,320
And it's very, very sad.
863
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,120
Clearly, it was a very dear
relationship with Edward.
864
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,400
Becoming the new Duke of Edinburgh
was part of that public expression.
865
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,800
I think there was no-one
who had more influence on Edward
866
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,320
than his father, Prince Philip.
867
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,480
He was an immense character,
a larger-than-life figure.
868
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,320
And it's clear, you know,
that they had a very close bond,
869
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,960
as he did, in different ways,
with all of his children.
870
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,440
But in 2017,
when Prince Philip retired,
871
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,640
it was Edward who took over
many of his father's charities,
872
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,920
including the most well known -
the Duke of Edinburgh Awards.
873
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,480
Back in 1956,
the Duke of Edinburgh established
874
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,040
the Duke of Edinburgh Award,
875
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,320
which was a way of
getting young people
876
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,520
out into nature, doing challenges.
877
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640
It was his baby, he promoted it,
878
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,240
and it was really,
really successful.
879
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
It's been praised to the skies
for helping young people.
880
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,880
Edward went on, in 1986,
881
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,680
to complete
his Duke of Edinburgh scheme
882
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,680
and came away with a gold badge.
883
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,160
And this was a joy
for Prince Philip.
884
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,560
He was absolutely delighted by it.
885
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,480
Edward and Philip
had a marvellously close
886
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,360
and a deeply affectionate,
loving relationship.
887
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,120
He was immensely proud of him.
888
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,120
And while Philip
was undoubtedly proud
889
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,840
of his youngest son's achievement,
890
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,080
it didn't stop him being a target
891
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,560
of Prince Philip's
famous sense of humour.
892
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,920
He's got a gold award. But for that,
he would've been a dropout.
893
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,480
Yeah, probably.
894
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,720
Edward was asked about
the Duke of Edinburgh scheme,
895
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,800
why it was so important to him,
and he sort of said,
896
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,880
"Well, a lot of people just think
it's in my DNA."
897
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,400
Edward's passion
for the Duke of Edinburgh Awards
898
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200
was clear when he addressed
gold badge winners
899
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,920
at this year's
Buckingham Palace Garden Party.
900
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,760
Life will continue to throw
challenges at you.
901
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,600
It'll continue to throw
opportunities at you.
902
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,120
I think because
you have done the award,
903
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,920
you will have the confidence
904
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,680
to be able to take
that unexpected journey.
905
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,720
I think he really just wants
to connect with young people,
906
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440
give them... you know,
give them a bit of encouragement,
907
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,960
give them a bit of a morale booster.
908
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,760
Now I think there are
Duke of Edinburgh Award schemes
909
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,440
in something like 144 countries
around the world,
910
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,840
which is an incredible legacy
in itself.
911
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,240
And Edward wants to build on that.
912
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,600
It was a source of huge pride
913
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
to his father, Prince Philip,
914
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,200
that Prince Edward
had worked so tirelessly and so hard
915
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:10,160
to promote this charity and cause
916
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520
for young people around the world.
917
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,640
I think he wants to honour
his father's memory as best he can,
918
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,640
and he carries responsibility
of ensuring
919
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,400
that his father's greatest gift
to this country continues.
920
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,160
Edward has certainly come a long way
since his early mistakes
921
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,400
and is making
a positive contribution
922
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640
within Charles's modern monarchy.
923
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:39,360
Charles needs Edward and Sophie
to do the humdrum royal engagements.
924
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,760
Queen Elizabeth
had 600 royal patronages.
925
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960
None of those have been reallocated.
926
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,960
There's no way that all of those
can be taken on by various members.
927
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,320
Edward will take them on.
928
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,280
Actually, look at him today,
929
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200
and alongside
the Duchess of Edinburgh,
930
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,840
they are now in the press
for all the right reasons.
931
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,400
We're talking about their work,
932
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,400
we're talking about
the important spotlight
933
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,560
they're putting on young people,
on how they're supporting the King.
934
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,680
In March 2023, Charles awarded
Edward their father's dukedom.
935
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:13,640
And at Trooping the Colour,
the King's first official birthday,
936
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,080
it was his brother Prince Edward
who was out by his side.
937
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,040
They've barely put a step wrong
938
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,240
since they became
full-time working royals.
939
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,680
He's managed to create an aura
around him
940
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,040
that he's a safe part of hands,
he's reliable.
941
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,320
It's essential for Charles
to have senior working royals
942
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,440
like Edward and Sophie out there,
front and centre,
943
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,080
working hard, showing why
the royal family is still relevant.
79327
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