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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 JAYE GRIFFITHS: May 2023. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,200 Britain welcomes a new King and Queen. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,040 Huge cheer going up. Wow. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,760 And there we are. That's why. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Joining them on the Palace balcony 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,720 was Charles's youngest brother, Edward, and his wife, Sophie. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,720 I think Edward finds himself in a position 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,440 that he probably didn't expect to be in. 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Go back a decade, and he was nowhere to be seen. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,360 There was no room for Edward and Sophie in those days. 11 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,240 But it's clear from that balcony scene 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,400 that he really is part of the core team now. 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,560 Prince Edward is 14th in line to the throne, 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,600 and never expected to be a front-line royal. 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,280 The youngest of the Queen's children, 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,360 he had much less pressure put on him. 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,320 But things didn't always go smoothly for the baby of the family. 18 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,880 The newspapers smelt blood. 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,840 Edward couldn't hack it in the Marines. 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,160 I mean, what a great story. 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,600 His controversial career choices... 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,880 It's A Royal Knockout. 23 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Certainly, in the pantheon of great royal mess-ups, 24 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,440 this is absolutely up there. 25 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,400 ..and self-inflicted gaffes... 26 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Well, thanks for sounding so bloody enthusiastic (!) 27 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,720 ..landed him in trouble. 28 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Edward is emerging as one of the great bleaters of our times. 29 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,760 But over the last two decades, there has been a transformation, 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,520 and he has carved out one of the most successful royal careers. 31 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,640 He's made mistakes when he was younger, 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,600 but he's actually learned from those mistakes, 33 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,920 which is not true of all royals. 34 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:22,640 And after Prince Philip died, 35 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,000 King Charles awarded Edward his father's dukedom. 36 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,160 It is seen as a fitting reward for all the years of service. 37 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,920 And while other members of the family 38 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:34,200 have stepped away from being working royals... 39 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,200 Have you spoken to Prince Andrew? 40 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,000 ..Edward and his wife Sophie have been the ones to step up. 41 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,280 Very hard-working, very loyal, very willing to support the Crown. 42 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:48,360 Prince Edward will be central to this new royal era. 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,360 Suddenly, he's almost like the great hope 44 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,560 for the next stage of the royal family's evolution. 45 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,520 So, just how has he transformed himself 46 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,720 from petulant prince to dependable duke? 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,000 I think, in the future, he will be Charles's right-hand man. 48 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Mr Reliable. 49 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,600 On the 10th March 2023, 50 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:15,200 Prince Edward received a very special birthday present. 51 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,240 His brother, King Charles, 52 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,080 had made him the new Duke of Edinburgh. 53 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,400 A very special and slightly overwhelming day 54 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,040 for now my wife and Duchess. 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,080 It certainly wasn't Edward's destiny to be Duke of Edinburgh. 56 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,640 It's a weighty title, it's an important and historic title 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,560 and, of course, most people associate the Duke of Edinburgh 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,360 with the late Prince Philip. 59 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Edward hasn't had the prominence of his siblings 60 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:45,840 or, indeed, William and Harry 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,360 because of where he is in the line of succession. 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,160 On Prince Philip's death in 2021, 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,400 his titles passed to his eldest son, Charles. 64 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,640 But Edward revealed in a BBC interview 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,520 before Charles became King 66 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,280 that it was Philip's wish for him to inherit his dukedom. 67 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,800 It was a sort of pipe dream of my father's, 68 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,760 so, er... 69 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,680 And, of course, you know, it will depend on whether or not 70 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,360 the Prince of Wales, when he becomes King, whether he'll do that. 71 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,360 The title was created for Philip. It was very special. 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,280 It was something that he treasured and he wanted to give to Edward, 73 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,080 not to his other sons. 74 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Charles's decision was undoubtedly in recognition 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,200 of the closeness between father and son. 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,040 I don't think any royal commentator expected Charles 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,880 to go against the wishes of his father. 78 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,880 I think also, it was a way for the royal family to say, you know, 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,240 he's going to be important in the way that his father was. 80 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,720 He would have done it, I'm sure, wanting to reward his brother 81 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,920 for all of his years of duty and service and loyalty to the Crown. 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,600 The honour also reflected the remarkable rise 83 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,280 of Edward and his wife Sophie 84 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,080 and their growing importance as working royals. 85 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,560 It must have been really difficult 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,680 for Edward to give up his dreams, his ambitions, 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,280 to become a full-time working royal, 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,840 but I do think it was the making of him. 89 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Go back to, say, the Queen's Diamond Jubilee, 90 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 2012, we all remember that. 91 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Who was up on the balcony? 92 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,960 There was no room for Edward and Sophie in those days. 93 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,280 And yet here we are now, 94 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,520 and suddenly, he's almost like the great hope 95 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,800 for the next stage of the royal family's evolution. 96 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:29,920 But Edward and Sophie haven't always found it easy 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,520 being part of The Firm. 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,800 The idea that Meghan is the first person to have problems 99 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,800 marrying into that family is obviously nonsense. 100 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,200 When it was revealed that Edward 101 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,200 was first going out with Sophie Rhys-Jones, 102 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,000 he felt intolerable pressure 103 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,480 and intrusion into their relationship 104 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,920 and into his privacy. 105 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,840 He's made mistakes, he's become the butt of numerous jokes, 106 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,160 but he's come out of it. 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,680 And with the death of the Queen and Prince Philip, 108 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,800 and the departure in recent years of so many senior royals, 109 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:03,120 it is Prince Edward who has taken on ever more royal duties. 110 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,480 Charles always wanted to slim down the monarchy, 111 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,880 but it's sort of slimmed itself down without him having to do anything. 112 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Everything changed, really, 113 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,240 because of the Harry decision to go overseas 114 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,800 and what's happened with the scandal over Prince Andrew. 115 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:19,280 It's now imperative 116 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,880 that we give this very senior, very important title 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,320 to the prince who remains, 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,880 the prince who isn't causing a problem, 119 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,680 the prince who we can rely on. 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Edward and Sophie's strong partnership 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,080 make them an asset to the new king. 122 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,760 It's essential for Charles to have senior working royals 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,560 like Edward and Sophie out there, 124 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,680 front and centre, working hard, 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,560 showing why the royal family is still relevant. 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 And in the absence of Harry and Meghan, 127 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,360 well, Edward and Sophie are the new Harry and Meghan. 128 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,120 As a new chapter in the royal family begins, 129 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,520 it will be Prince Edward, the late Queen's youngest child, 130 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,120 who will be thrust into the limelight. 131 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,600 When he was born, he was third in line to the throne. 132 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,480 It was never very likely that he was ever gonna have this major role. 133 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,520 But all that has changed in the past couple of years. 134 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,320 He's pretty hard working 135 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,040 and has just gotten on with the job quietly, 136 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,440 without making too much fuss. 137 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 But that wasn't always the case. 138 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,280 There were many disasters in his younger days 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,560 as he grew from a pampered prince to an unpopular royal. 140 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,360 Royal princes don't leave the military, they do their duty. 141 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,400 But Edward didn't. 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,800 If there is one cringe moment 143 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:36,200 in history of the modern British royal family... 144 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Thanks. 145 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,280 ..it's It's A Royal Knockout. 146 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,160 JAYE GRIFFITHS: On the 10th March 1964, 147 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,840 a small but expectant crowd gather at the gates of Buckingham Palace. 148 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,800 About an hour ago, we got the first news 149 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,040 that the Queen's fourth baby might be born tonight. 150 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,960 At 8.20pm, the news that they had been waiting for arrived. 151 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,240 Prince Edward, her youngest child, had been born. 152 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,560 The Queen always referred to Andrew and Edward as her second family. 153 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,960 When the Queen came to the throne, of course, 154 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520 she was a young woman with two young children. 155 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,440 She didn't have much time, quite frankly, 156 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,240 for motherhood with either Charles or Anne. 157 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,640 Edward and Andrew had a completely different childhood. 158 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,240 They were spoilt in a way that Charles and Anne simply weren't 159 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,360 because they had their parents' time and attention. 160 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,880 The Queen gave birth to Edward when she was 37, 161 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,040 and she decided that this time, 162 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 she was going to do things differently. 163 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,200 She knew that this was gonna be her last child, 164 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,160 and she wanted to enjoy his childhood and those early years 165 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,560 as much as possible. 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,840 He probably did get special treatment, 167 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,400 but the baby of the bunch always does, don't they? 168 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,920 And when it came to advice about parenting, 169 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,240 it's claimed that the Queen got some of her information 170 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,440 from an unusual source. 171 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,520 The Queen was also someone who was an avid reader of women's magazines 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,840 and took huge interest in new ideas. 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,160 She wanted Prince Philip there at the birth, 174 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,200 and he, as the modern man that he was, was happy to agree. 175 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,760 When Philip decided to be in at the birth of Edward, 176 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,320 that was revolutionary. 177 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,080 I mean, in previous generations, that had never happened. 178 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,120 As well as attending the birth, 179 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,320 and in contrast to how he was with his two older children, 180 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,800 Philip would become a very hands-on parent. 181 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,200 Prince Edward was his father Philip's favourite child 182 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,640 simply because Edward arrived at the point 183 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:44,480 at which his father decided to be much more involved 184 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,160 with his children. 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,160 Philip would read bedtime stories, some of which he made up himself. 186 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Philip would help decorate the nursery where Edward slept 187 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,400 with model ships and aeroplanes. 188 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,080 He made sure his schedule was structured 189 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,640 so that he could be there to help with tea time, bath time. 190 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,120 Apparently, Nanny Mabel always slightly feared 191 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,120 when Prince Philip would come up to the nursery 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,360 because he would kind of rough and tumble with the kids, 193 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,080 and he'd be wrestling with Prince Andrew, 194 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,040 and Prince Edward would be jumping on top of him, 195 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,640 and then Nanny Mabel would struggle to get the kids down to sleep. 196 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,560 For most of us, a father being involved 197 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,480 with the day-to-day care of a baby and a toddler, 198 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,360 there's nothing strange about that, 199 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,560 but in the royal family, that was quite something. 200 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,680 The Queen and Prince Philip's close relationship with Edward 201 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,360 was captured in this remarkable fly-on-the-wall documentary. 202 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,720 First broadcast in 1969, 203 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,720 it provides an intriguing glimpse of the young Prince Edward. 204 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,960 The 1969 documentary Royal Family 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,120 really was a peek behind Palace doors. 206 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,800 And at one stage, there's a memorable moment 207 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,680 when he's up close with his big brother Charles, 208 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,280 who's labouring over the cello. 209 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,880 SCRATCHY NOTES 210 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,040 One of the strings breaks, and it catches Edward, 211 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,400 and you can see his lips are trembling. 212 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,520 STRING CLUNKS 213 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:07,720 Oh! 214 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,400 All right? 215 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,080 Did it hit you? Yes. 216 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,400 Why did you do that for? Sorry, sorry. 217 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,640 And here you had this boy doing his utmost not to lose it, 218 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:20,600 not to cry in front of the television, 219 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,360 and it's a magnificent example of grace under pressure, if you like. 220 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Some of the nicest stuff 221 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,840 is with the Queen and a very young Edward 222 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,280 just out sweet shopping, which is a nice, normal scene, 223 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,120 with a film crew in tow. 224 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,280 What are you going to have? 225 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,200 An ice cream. This is what he really would like. 226 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,480 They always go straight for the ice creams. 227 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Would you like to go and get one? 228 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,000 The take-out from it, for a lot of people, 229 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,840 was how normal and well adjusted Edward had been, 230 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,760 and I think that's a lot to with the fact that Philip and the Queen 231 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,280 spent much more time with him as he was growing up. 232 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,240 The documentary also showed the close bond 233 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,600 between Edward and his father. 234 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,080 The Royal Family documentary was a ratings hit, 235 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,800 and was seen by more than 30 million people. 236 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,320 However, some felt it had been a mistake 237 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,280 to grant such unprecedented access. 238 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,760 I believe it was a strategic mistake. 239 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,120 It was the beginning of the end of any kind of magic. 240 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,360 The big debate over it is the mystique. 241 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Do you think there should be any mystery about the royal family? 242 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,440 And once you sort of open the door, can you ever really shut it? 243 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Once you let daylight into that magic, it is a slippery slope. 244 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,960 Concerns that the documentary 245 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 may have diminished respect for the monarchy 246 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,240 meant it has not been rebroadcast in its entirety for over 40 years. 247 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Edward's next public performance would be in 1972 248 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,680 when he started prep school. 249 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,040 Andrew wasn't a great success at school, 250 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,800 but Edward actually was. 251 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,680 He was quite academically bright. 252 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,240 The Queen had had to leave the education of Charles and Anne 253 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,880 in the hands of others, 254 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,680 but she was determined to be more involved in Edward's schooling. 255 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,080 Heatherdown Prep School was near Windsor, 256 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,040 so he could see his mother, the Queen, more often. 257 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:25,600 The Queen suddenly found herself going regularly to school meetings, 258 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,360 to meet his teachers, collecting him at the weekends, 259 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,840 driving him there and back. 260 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,160 I mean, highly unusual for a monarch to have done anything like that. 261 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,160 Edward's prep school started his lifelong love of the theatre. 262 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,480 It was whilst he was at Heatherdown 263 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,520 that he apparently got the acting bug. 264 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:48,640 He appeared in a school production of The Wind In The Willows, 265 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,600 and he played Mole, and he got very warmly applause, 266 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,680 applause led by the Queen. 267 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 He seemed to have gone down a storm, 268 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,920 and so he was seen as a bit of a rising star in the family. 269 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,880 After prep school, Edward followed his older brothers to Gordonstoun, 270 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,400 his father's former public school. 271 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,640 And, controversially, 272 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:14,280 Edward was accepted into one of the country's top universities. 273 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,720 He got into university, 274 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,600 having scraped through with three or four A-levels. 275 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,920 He didn't have what would be the normal threshold 276 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,720 to get into Cambridge. 277 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,400 It's fair to say that the royals don't have to go 278 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,400 through the clearing process like the rest of us. 279 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,040 They definitely get special treatment. 280 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Hoorah, hoorah! 281 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,280 At Cambridge, Edward threw himself into student life. 282 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,120 He was active in the university drama society 283 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,280 and organised the student RAG week. 284 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Anyway, you're in good company today. 285 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,200 You have probably the most professional crawlers in the world 286 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,480 standing in front of you. 287 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,880 He wasn't massively academic. 288 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,440 Where he really excelled was on the stage. 289 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,120 I think Edward was a competent actor, 290 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,960 rather than someone who was gonna be marked out 291 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,880 as a potential Hollywood star. 292 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,800 And despite his love of the arts, 293 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,920 the career Edward decided on after university 294 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,240 was to join the Royal Marines. 295 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,920 Edward, from the earliest, from when he was... 296 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,160 you know, he was probably sort of eight or ten, 297 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,400 he was absolutely adamant that that would be his military career. 298 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,520 There was a real sort of sense of that naval tradition 299 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,600 in the men of the Mountbatten-Windsor family. 300 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,360 The royal family is a military family 301 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,400 and, specifically, a naval family. 302 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,680 The Royal Marines, of course, 303 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,600 are the fighting soldiers of the Royal Navy. 304 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,080 Edward was very athletic and very sporty, 305 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,680 so on paper, he was absolutely perfect for the Marines. 306 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,360 The Royal Marines had sponsored Edward's tuition at Cambridge 307 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,280 on condition that he serve five years with the regiment. 308 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,680 But much to everyone's surprise, Edward quit after just four months. 309 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,000 His decision to quit was very, very controversial. 310 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Royal princes don't leave the military, they do their duty. 311 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,880 But Edward didn't. 312 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,880 His training officers had no doubt 313 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,920 he had the physical strength and resource 314 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,160 to complete what is said to be 315 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,840 the hardest military training in the world. 316 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,680 The truth is, he wasn't enjoying it. 317 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Not cos he couldn't do it, but because he couldn't enjoy the... 318 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,280 everything else that went with being 319 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,760 with the Royal Marines in Devon. 320 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,200 What was required of him to be 321 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,640 absolutely devote-yourself-all-in to become a Marine, 322 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,760 was just, for him, in antipathy to being a prince. 323 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,040 Edward's decision to leave the Marines 324 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,040 prompted a storm of criticism. 325 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,400 The newspapers smelt blood. 326 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Edward couldn't hack it in the Marines. 327 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,280 I mean, what a great story. 328 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,280 And it wasn't just the national tabloids that were outraged. 329 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,000 He was ridiculed by his former Marine colleagues 330 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,520 who just called him soft 331 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,240 and thought he, you know... he wasn't up to it. 332 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,760 And he had a bit of a tough time within the royal family, too. 333 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,800 It was the Queen who, apparently, 334 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,000 viewed it in a very, very dismal light. 335 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,360 She said she thought it was a dereliction of duty. 336 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Although he had disappointed his family 337 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,480 with his decision to leave the Marines, 338 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Edward received support from an unexpected quarter. 339 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,960 This was deeply personal for Prince Philip, 340 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,720 because he was Captain General of the Royal Marines. 341 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,320 It was well reported then that Philip, in particular, 342 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,040 was furious with his son, 343 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,560 that he'd sort of let him down and let the family down. 344 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 In fact, the opposite was true. 345 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Edward's father found a very public way 346 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,160 to show his support. 347 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Just days after Edward had left, 348 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,600 father and son were pictured going to church together at Sandringham. 349 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 The royal family very rarely do something 350 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,360 where they're not aware of its significance 351 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,440 or how it will be seen by the public. 352 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,160 To have his father there, supporting him, 353 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,800 was a really big step on Philip's part, 354 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,440 and I think all went into really cementing 355 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,640 this very, very close relationship between father and son. 356 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Philip was very supportive, and he cleverly turned it round 357 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,840 by making it very clear to everyone 358 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,200 that he thought it was a very brave decision. 359 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,280 It was quite a surprise, and something of a reversal of roles, 360 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,560 for the Queen to be really quite upset at Edward's decision to leave, 361 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,560 and Philip to be understanding. 362 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,920 If Edward's dropping out from the Marines 363 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,680 was unprecedented for a member of the royal family, 364 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,280 what he did next would break even more royal conventions. 365 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,840 After Edward left the Marines, I think, 366 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,920 because he was a bit of a lost soul, he thought, 367 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,360 "I've got to do something spectacular, something big." 368 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,440 I think Edward was struggling a little bit 369 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,480 to find a purpose, to find a role. 370 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Edward decided to produce a television charity event 371 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,800 involving his family and various celebrities. 372 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,000 It's A Royal Knockout in 1987 373 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,600 was Edward's sort of first real foray into TV production. 374 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,880 Edward decided that he, Prince Andrew, 375 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,440 the Duchess of York - Fergie - 376 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,320 and Princess Anne would captain four teams 377 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:15,720 that would "compete" against each other at Alton Towers, 378 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,480 all dressed up in Tudor regalia. 379 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,160 The idea was to have some fun, some silly competitions, 380 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,440 based on It's A Knockout, 381 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,480 which was a big TV hit in the '70s and '80s. 382 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,960 It's A Royal Knockout was watched by 18 million people in the UK 383 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,040 and made £1.5 million for charity. 384 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,680 But it was not the success Edward hoped for. 385 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,800 If there is one cringe moment 386 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,240 in the history of the modern British royal family, 387 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,520 it's It's A Royal Knockout. 388 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,120 Certainly, in the pantheon of great royal mess-ups, 389 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,920 this is absolutely up there. 390 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,720 If you want to remove the mystique of the royal family, 391 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,960 get them dressed up in fake medieval costumes 392 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,560 and then have a big knock-about competition outside, 393 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,600 in the pouring rain. 394 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,760 It just had "PR disaster" written all over it. 395 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,600 But worse was to come in the interview after the filming... 396 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,880 First of all, I have to apology if I go to sleep in the middle of this. 397 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,120 ..when Edward was met by a less-than-enthusiastic press pack. 398 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,840 He'd invited the press and the media to come along 399 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,520 because he thought we'd all write wonderful, glowing pieces 400 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,720 about what a brilliant idea this was. 401 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,960 But unfortunately, when we got there, 402 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,200 we were barred from actually seeing anything. 403 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,880 I know the captains have enjoyed themselves... 404 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,760 ..I only hope that you've enjoyed yourselves. 405 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,440 Have you? 406 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,560 Yes, we have. 407 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Well, thanks for sounding so bloody enthusiastic (!) 408 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,320 What have you been doing in here all day? 409 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,520 It's been cold. You may well ask. 410 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,160 Have you been watching it? Yes. Yeah. 411 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,640 Yeah? What did you think of it? 412 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,160 LAUGHTER 413 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,160 Thanks (!) I thought it was good. 414 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Then the royal walkout. 415 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,520 He is reported to have said, as he left Alton Towers, 416 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,200 "One of these days, 417 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,640 "you lot are going to have to learn some manners." 418 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,400 Well, of course, that forever became the story - 419 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,880 the petulant prince who throws his toys out of the pram. 420 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,440 It did present an extraordinary insight 421 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,240 into Edward's character at that time, 422 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,720 and the pratfalls of being a member of the royal family 423 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 and getting involved in light entertainment. 424 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,040 It's A Royal Knockout provoked a storm of negative publicity. 425 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,400 But things got even worse 426 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,040 when Edward started his own TV production company. 427 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Over the next decade, 428 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,840 he would continually be in the papers 429 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,480 for all the wrong reasons. 430 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,400 Ardent Productions, in many ways, 431 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,840 was the peak of the embarrassing things that Edward did. 432 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,040 It was just hopeless. 433 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,800 And while Edward's career lurched from one PR disaster to another, 434 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,120 he was, at least, luckier in love. 435 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,880 Edward and Sophie were friends for many years before they fell in love. 436 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,320 We manage to have a good laugh about things most of the time. 437 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:02,080 And we happen to love each other, which is the most important thing. 438 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,160 JAYE GRIFFITHS: In June 1999, Prince Edward married 439 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,600 his long-term girlfriend Sophie Rhys-Jones. 440 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,040 Among the thousands of people lining the streets, 441 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,200 are visitors from all over the world. 442 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,720 I think the world had an expectation 443 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,520 of what this wedding was going to look like, 444 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,520 having seen Diana and Charles's at St Paul's, 445 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,600 having seen Sarah and Andrew's. 446 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,920 It was at St George's Chapel at Windsor Castle, 447 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,880 which we now know, also, Harry and Meghan got married there, 448 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Charles and Camilla had the blessing there. 449 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,240 They did set a precedent. 450 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,120 You know, in a way, they are kind of trailblazers for more modest events. 451 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,640 Edward and Sophie might have had a reason 452 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,560 for wanting a different kind of royal wedding. 453 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,080 They opted for a much quieter wedding. 454 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:55,400 And I think that was partly because they were already thinking, 455 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,840 "We want to have a life, partly in the royal family, 456 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,600 "but also outside the royal family, 457 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,680 "so we're not gonna make this a huge thing." 458 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,640 Edward and Sophie were friends for many years 459 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,160 before they fell in love. 460 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,560 One of the things that Edward was attracted to 461 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,840 was the normality of Sophie Rhys-Jones, which, you know, 462 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,800 she's not a European Princess, she is not an aristo. 463 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000 Sophie Rhys-Jones was a middle-class professional, 464 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,240 who ran her own successful PR company. 465 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Dare I ask you, 466 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,160 what qualities you think you both bring to this relationship? 467 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,520 We manage to have a good laugh about things most of the time. 468 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,240 And we happen to love each other, which is the most important thing. 469 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,840 Great sense of humour, very important. 470 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,520 It's, very important, yes. 471 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Edward was acutely aware that, 472 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,120 as a commoner - for want of a better word - 473 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,080 there were real challenges that Sophie faced. 474 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:49,880 We have to remember the 1990s 475 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,960 was a really rocky decade for the royal family. 476 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,480 There was all sorts of stuff going down - many divorces. 477 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,920 Don't forget he'd watched 478 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Andrew's marriage with Sarah ultimately crumble, 479 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,560 seen what had happened to Charles's marriage with Diana. 480 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,400 There was insatiable interest in his love life. 481 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,480 He felt intolerable pressure 482 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,360 and intrusion into their relationship. 483 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,800 In December 1993, newspaper editors across the country 484 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,760 received an extraordinary missive from the Prince. 485 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Edward wrote a very heartfelt letter to the press, 486 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 actually in quite restrained terms, 487 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,560 just asking that his private life, 488 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,120 and Sophie's private life, should be treated as private. 489 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,320 "I'm taking this unusual step of writing to you directly 490 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:38,160 "in the hope of stopping your reporters and photographers 491 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,120 "from destroying that part of my life 492 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,080 "that I'm entitled to regard as private 493 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,440 "and, more importantly, Sophie's life." 494 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,480 This plea for privacy was later echoed by his nephew, Prince Harry, 495 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,720 when he sent a similar letter to newspaper editors 496 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,160 over coverage of his relationship with Meghan Markle. 497 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,520 But where that approach, I think, differs from, say, 498 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Harry's approach to protecting Meghan, 499 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,360 is that... Edward was conciliatory. 500 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Edward, by contrast with Harry, was much more restrained, 501 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200 but there were moments when he complained bitterly 502 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720 about intrusion into his life. 503 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,520 Edward and Sophie dated for several years 504 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,000 and had to contend with relentless media pressure 505 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320 to announce their engagement. 506 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,400 Edward sort of said he didn't want to hurry into it. 507 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,400 He wanted to make sure that Sophie knew 508 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760 this was the life that she wanted to live, 509 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,920 because it is a life that involves sacrifice. 510 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,040 When he was pressed once by the journalists 511 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,120 to say when he was gonna pop the question to Sophie, 512 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,680 he just snapped at them. 513 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,640 I'm not saying anything at all, I'm gonna keep quiet, 514 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,560 and if everybody stops asking me the question, 515 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440 then who knows what might happen? 516 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,920 And how does Sophie Rhys-Jones... 517 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760 how did she manage in this goldfish bowl that you talk about? 518 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,480 Did she find it very difficult? Well, I can't speak for her. 519 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,080 So, I think he's irascible, he snaps a bit - 520 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,560 just like his father - but he doesn't hold a grudge. 521 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,720 I don't think... He's not gonna make it, you know, 522 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,320 something that continues forever, 523 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,320 the way Harry just can't let go of it. 524 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,840 When Edward did announce his engagement to Sophie in 1999, 525 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840 it did little to stop press intrusion. 526 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,200 Sophie's found herself on the wrong side of the tabloids more than once, 527 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,440 but I think, probably the most humiliating 528 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,640 was just weeks before their wedding. 529 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,560 There was a topless picture of Sophie 530 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280 which had been taken, privately, 531 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,520 by friends at Capital Radio years before, 532 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,480 and someone gave that photo to a newspaper, 533 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,680 which printed it on the front page. 534 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080 On this occasion, Edward wasn't going to sort of sit back. 535 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,040 He took action and made an official complaint 536 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,440 to the Press Complaints Commission, which was upheld. 537 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,960 The Sun apologised and also paid a significant donation 538 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,200 to Sophie's charities. 539 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,560 As well as intrusion into their private lives, 540 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Edward and Sophie would continually attract negative headlines 541 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,120 as they try to combine their royal duties 542 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,760 with independent careers. 543 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,080 There are parallels between Sophie and Edward, 544 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,120 and Harry and Meghan. 545 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,440 I mean, Sophie and Edward were the forerunners 546 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960 of trying to balance their royal careers 547 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,360 with actual moneymaking careers. 548 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,600 In 1993, Edward set up a television company - 549 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,240 Ardent Productions. 550 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,480 He was the first senior royal to have a career outside The Firm. 551 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Ardent Productions, in many ways, was the peak 552 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760 of the embarrassing things that Edward did. 553 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,960 It was just hopeless. 554 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,520 If the journalists sounded surprised at Edward running a TV company, 555 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,320 it's probably because, up to this point, 556 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,960 he had very little media experience. 557 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,520 After he left the Marines, 558 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,680 and the debacle of It's A Royal Knockout, 559 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960 he'd taken a job in theatre. 560 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,520 Edward got a job at The Really Useful company - 561 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,400 Andrew Lloyd Webber's company - 562 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440 and the joke was that he was the teaboy. 563 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,440 So, for the photocall at the first day of work, 564 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,760 of course, he turned up with the teabags. 565 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,280 Today, reporters wanting to know 566 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,720 what the Prince would actually do 567 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,600 got the answer from his new boss over the stage-door intercom. 568 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,840 'It's the lowest rung on the learning process 569 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,480 'of working in theatre, 570 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,400 'and he will have no status whatsoever. 571 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280 'We will not be using him in any PR capacity.' 572 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,560 He'd learned the rudiments, if you like, of the business, 573 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,520 and he thought he'd spotted a niche in the market. 574 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,600 He wanted to present and make his own documentaries. 575 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,680 Edward's only other experience was limited to this BBC documentary. 576 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,520 BALL CLATTERS 577 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680 Like real tennis, many people have heard of the award scheme 578 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,400 but don't really know what it's about. 579 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600 The Duke's Award was a programme 580 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,120 about his father's Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme. 581 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,160 It also showcased Edward's awkward interactions with the public. 582 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,760 A group of unemployed youngsters, 583 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,280 who could hardly afford the award scheme record book, 584 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,800 are rehearsing a pantomime, I believe, based on Cinderella. 585 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,640 What do we call you when we sort of want to... 586 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,000 Do we say "Prince Edward" or...? You do. 587 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280 Right, OK. Simple as that. 588 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Now, Prince Edward, you have a white badge, 589 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,240 I mean, what is that for? That's the gold. 590 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,080 So you have actually done it, have you? Yeah. 591 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,440 Right, that's nice. So what did you think of it when you was doing it? 592 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,880 Well, it is Daddy's, isn't it? 593 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,320 Come on, get a grip. 594 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,480 Presenting on television is an art. 595 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,640 Edward clearly had very little of that. 596 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,480 You can't be, on the one hand, matey Edward, 597 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,920 and the Queen's son - 598 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,240 with all of the stars and honours that go with it - on the other, 599 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,040 and I think that was another problem that he had. 600 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,040 He was trying to straddle two worlds. 601 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520 And it wasn't just Edward's presenting skills 602 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,600 which created problems. 603 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,960 He promised at one point 604 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200 that he wouldn't use his royal connections 605 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920 to make any films or TV shows. 606 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440 The problem for him was that people were only commissioning - 607 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,640 or only wanted to commission - programmes about the royal family. 608 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,120 In fact, he made a great series of programmes 609 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,120 that were entirely based on 610 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,800 the royal family and his connections. 611 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,360 And as this classic clip from Saturday Live shows, 612 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Edward was routinely mocked 613 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,520 for his attempts to mix royalty with show business. 614 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,120 Hi! My name's Prince "No But Seriously Though" Edward. 615 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Right, OK. 616 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Anyone here from Balmoral? 617 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Yeah, OK! 618 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Edward On Edward, Ardent's documentary 619 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240 about Edward's great-uncle, the Duke of Windsor, 620 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,920 would expose the challenges 621 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,440 of trying to be both a royal and a television producer. 622 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840 I've often wondered about the appalling shock 623 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880 my great-uncle and namesake, His Majesty King Edward VIII, 624 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,520 inflicted upon family when he abdicated his throne 625 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120 to marry Wallis Simpson 60 years ago. 626 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,400 One of Prince Edward's most famous commissions 627 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,440 was a documentary called Edward On Edward - 628 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880 which was about the Queen's uncle, Edward VIII. 629 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760 And he met Hitler before the war, 630 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880 and fair to say, a very controversial figure. 631 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,000 Edward interviewed, or tried to interview, 632 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,040 someone who was the last living witness 633 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,560 to the meeting between Edward VIII and Hitler. 634 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,200 But he never could quite get round to the killer question, 635 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,720 and the killer question was, well, what did Edward say to Hitler? 636 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Well, fundamentally, Prince Ed was not a journalist, 637 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360 so he shouldn't be doing that interview, really. 638 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,560 It's about his mother's uncle 639 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640 who had a very controversial meeting with Hitler. 640 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,040 As a member of the royal family, 641 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520 there's lots of things you might not want to talk about, 642 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280 or you can't talk about, 643 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,800 or you can't do. 644 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,560 You're really, really restricted, and you can't be impartial. 645 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,720 As his career in television struggled to take off, 646 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Edward faced increasing criticism that he was using his royal status 647 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,080 to try and help his ailing business. 648 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,800 You would've thought he would have got plenty of work 649 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,280 being the Queen's son 650 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,920 and would have been able to win any number of contracts. 651 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,280 It didn't stand in his favour. 652 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200 He wanted it to work, he needed it to work, 653 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,680 and he became increasingly frustrated when it didn't. 654 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280 Honestly, that was one of the great issues - 655 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,000 was he exploiting his royal family connection to make money? 656 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560 And on the surface, it seemed almost certainly he was. 657 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080 Prince Edward's new married status 658 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,760 means extra responsibility. 659 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,040 He's now using his Windsor connections 660 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,800 to earn cash for his own company, 661 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,400 raising eyebrows for breaking royal practice. 662 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,080 Edward is emerging as one of the great bleaters of our times, 663 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,360 and he is inheriting his father's mantle 664 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,880 for putting his foot in it. 665 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,200 Following this week's barrage of press criticism, 666 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360 he and the Countess of Wessex will have to tread extra carefully 667 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880 to show that they do know where to draw the line 668 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000 between private and royal business. 669 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960 And it wasn't just Edward, 670 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,760 it was also his wife Sophie, who had a PR company, 671 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,240 and there were questions being asked about how she was using her name, 672 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,840 which raised a lot of unease within the royal family. 673 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,560 In 2001, Edward and Sophie were caught in two separate scandals 674 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 which effectively ended their careers. 675 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,040 Sophie was duped by Mazher Mahmood, 676 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,280 the now discredited undercover reporter 677 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240 for the News of the World, known as "The Fake Sheikh". 678 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,040 She was secretly recorded 679 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,680 making indiscreet remarks about the royal family. 680 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Sophie allegedly called the Queen "an old dear" 681 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600 and said Charles and Camilla were waiting for the Queen Mother to die 682 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,920 before they married. 683 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,000 While these alleged marks were embarrassing for the royal family, 684 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,680 it was Sophie's insinuation 685 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960 that her royal ties were good for business 686 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,800 that was the most damaging. 687 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,000 It's this comment 688 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,400 which has caused particular concern in royal circles. 689 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,400 It's known Prince Charles had previously warned 690 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240 about Sophie's potential conflict of interest. 691 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,120 You've got the spotlight on the Wessexes 692 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,800 sort of for all the wrong reasons, 693 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,720 and this big question being thrown up - 694 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,240 can you have working royals 695 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560 who are representing the Queen and Crown 696 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,960 and cashing in on their own independent projects? 697 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480 Just five months later, Edward and his company Ardent 698 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,000 would be embroiled in an even more embarrassing scandal. 699 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,400 One of the nails on the coffin for Ardent, without a doubt, 700 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,800 was its decision to stay up at St Andrews 701 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080 and continue filming Prince William. 702 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,640 The media and the Palace had hammered out this agreement, 703 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,360 that in exchange for access from time to time, 704 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,320 that both princes would be allowed to enjoy their school 705 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,480 and university life untroubled. 706 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120 Somehow, Edward didn't get the memo. 707 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040 The world's media were invited to film this footage 708 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000 of Charles and William at the university. 709 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,680 After which, the press and photographers left St Andrews. 710 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400 The university said it was Prince William 711 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,480 who spotted the film crew on the campus. 712 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680 They were ordered off and a complaint lodged with Prince Edward, 713 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,440 but the camera team later returned to film near the student residence. 714 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,760 And when Charles found out, he absolutely hit the roof 715 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440 because it went against that agreement he had with the press. 716 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,320 Well, it's all incredibly funny, isn't it? 717 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,320 I mean, here you have the national tabloid press 718 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,000 staying well away from William, honouring every agreement pledged, 719 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320 only to have his privacy invaded by Uncle Edward. 720 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,960 And it was an absolute humiliation. 721 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,400 And one, really, from which Ardent never recovered. 722 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Do you have anything to say, sir, about your company? No. 723 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:16,400 I haven't. Thank you very much. Thank you very much indeed. 724 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,120 No, we've said all that's due been said, 725 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,800 and I don't think there is any need to say any more. Thank you. 726 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,400 At the beginning of 2002, 727 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,400 it was announced both Edward and Sophie 728 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,280 would be given up their careers to become full-time working royals. 729 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560 Edward made the surprise announcement 730 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,640 at the start of the Queen's Golden Jubilee. 731 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000 The Queen effectively asked Edward and Sophie 732 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,840 to give up their careers 733 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000 and to become full-time working royals. 734 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920 And as an effective sweetener, 735 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,200 she gave them £250,000 in compensation, if you like. 736 00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,960 I always knew in the back of my mind 737 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,280 that one day, things would have to change. 738 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,400 Well, that day has come. 739 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,240 And it's not just for me, but also for my wife. 740 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,400 I think you can draw parallels, absolutely, with the Sussexes. 741 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,840 Harry also wanted to strike out, do things a little bit differently, 742 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160 and just as Edward found, you know, these parameters are quite rigid. 743 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,920 They don't really budge, and kick against them too hard, 744 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,080 and you get badly wounded in the process. 745 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600 And maybe his own experiences caused him 746 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,360 to speak with some empathy in this interview 747 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560 with US news network CNN 748 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,040 about Prince Harry's decision to leave the royal family. 749 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160 It's a very sad. Erm... 750 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480 And, listen... weird that we've all been there before. 751 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,000 We've all had, you know, 752 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,320 excessive intrusion and attention in our lives, 753 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,640 and we've all dealt with it in certainly different ways. 754 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,360 And, listen, we wish them the very best of luck. 755 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,080 It's a really hard decision. 756 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,520 Some observers believed returning to the royal fold 757 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520 has strengthened Edward and Sophie's relationship. 758 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,240 Next year, Edward becomes the first of the Queen's children 759 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,200 to celebrate his silver wedding anniversary. 760 00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,080 I think it's hugely significant that Edward is the only one 761 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160 of the Queen's children not to divorce. 762 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160 She ultimately had to give up that independence 763 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,760 in order to make this marriage work, 764 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,280 in order to become a successful working royal. 765 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,560 Queen Elizabeth regarded that marriage was a marathon, 766 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,720 not a sprint. 767 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,960 And so the fact that Edward and Sophie's marriage has endured, 768 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,440 and seemingly a happy marriage, 769 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,280 was a source of great happiness to her. 770 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,040 It is the ultimate love story because Edward has stood by her 771 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,880 through all of those decisions, he made sure that he protected her. 772 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,880 While Edward and Sophie might have been reluctant royals, 773 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080 they have now fully embraced their position within The Firm. 774 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,880 I think Charles recognises 775 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360 that they've completely transformed themselves 776 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,920 and are able to do an important job for him and for the monarchy. 777 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,840 He's made mistakes when he was younger, 778 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120 but he's actually learned from those mistakes, 779 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,800 which is not true of all the royals. 780 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,480 In 2003, not long after becoming a full-time working royal, 781 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,280 Edward takes on an even more important role, 782 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,280 when he becomes a proud parent. 783 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,680 On those big family occasions, 784 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,320 when we see Edward and Sophie with James and Louise, 785 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,280 it's clear that they are a really happy, successful family unit. 786 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,120 JAYE GRIFFITHS: King Charles III's Coronation, 787 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520 and joining him on the Palace balcony - 788 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,320 the royal family, the embodiment of this new era. 789 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040 That was a balcony of working royals. 790 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,200 It really thrust a fierce beam of light, 791 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,160 if you like, on Edward and Sophie. 792 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,280 CROWD CHEERS 793 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920 They're supporting the King. 794 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,960 They're joining those key players centre stage. 795 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,760 Edward's been the understated royal for so many years, 796 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,720 but it's clear from the balcony scene 797 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960 that he really is part of the core team now. 798 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320 Edward also secured a prime seat at the Coronation Concert 799 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,600 and, as this BBC clip shows, was happy to join in the laughter 800 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,920 when surprised by an unexpected guest. 801 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,640 Thank you to our fantastic orchestra and to all our wonderful performers. 802 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,080 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 803 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,360 Kermit the frog popped up. 804 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680 It showed that Edward's got a really good sense of humour. 805 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,840 He's very up for taking the mickey out of himself. 806 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920 And I think we sort of associate Edward 807 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,920 with somebody who could take a joke, 808 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,280 having been the butt of one so many times in the past. 809 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680 In 2002, Edward and Sophie 810 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,920 became full-time members of the royal family. 811 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,280 And a year later, the couple's first child Louise was born. 812 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,800 Sophie had been rushed to hospital for an emergency caesarean 813 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,080 while Edward was abroad on royal business. 814 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680 I've seen Sophie. She's doing well. 815 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,640 She's also had a bit of a fraught time with it, 816 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,640 but she's recovering well, I'm glad to say. 817 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,280 I think Edward, as much as possible, 818 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,680 has tried to be a very modern dad. 819 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,120 Of course, he couldn't be there for his daughter's birth, 820 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,000 but he absolutely was there for his son's birth. 821 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,400 Edward and Sophie's second child James was born 822 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,600 four years later in 2007. 823 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,680 And Edward seems to have been determined 824 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,000 to be a very hands-on parent. 825 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,480 I think the fact that Edward 826 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520 had such a loving, secure and happy childhood, 827 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,720 because he had so much of his parents' attention, 828 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240 he has wanted to echo that. 829 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,240 He's been there at sports days, at speech days, 830 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560 for graduation, for his daughter's A-levels. 831 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,800 He and Sophie took Louise for her first day at St Andrews. 832 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,920 Edward's own grounded upbringing 833 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,160 prepared him for becoming a more down-to-earth royal. 834 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 One of the remarks he once made was, 835 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160 "I want to be treated for what I do not for who I am." 836 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680 Edward and Sophie are relatable in a way 837 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,560 that most of the other royals are not. 838 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,120 Simply because he makes it very clear 839 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,520 that ordinary life appeals to him. 840 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,640 And Edward, the modern father, 841 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,760 made one decision for his children 842 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,720 which would have the greatest bearing on their lives. 843 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,040 The most important thing Edward did when his children was born 844 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,920 was not saddle them with HRH titles, 845 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,800 so neither his son nor his daughter are His or Her Royal Highness. 846 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480 Edward's role as a parent is really interesting 847 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,600 because I think he is trying to enable his children 848 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,360 to do what he was unable to do. 849 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200 He took a leaf out of his sister Anne's book 850 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:20,280 who famously gave Peter and Zara Phillips, her two children, 851 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,760 no title at all. 852 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,120 It enabled them, and it continues to enable them, 853 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,440 to have very straightforward, ordinary lives. 854 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,000 And he wasn't afraid to show his emotions 855 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,880 when family tragedy struck. 856 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,800 We remember how he spoke after Prince Philip's death, 857 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880 very warmly about his father. 858 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,800 It's been a bit of a shock. 859 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,280 However much one tries to prepare oneself for something like this, 860 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160 it's still a dreadful shock, 861 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,200 and we're still trying to come to terms with that. 862 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,320 And it's very, very sad. 863 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,120 Clearly, it was a very dear relationship with Edward. 864 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,400 Becoming the new Duke of Edinburgh was part of that public expression. 865 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,800 I think there was no-one who had more influence on Edward 866 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,320 than his father, Prince Philip. 867 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,480 He was an immense character, a larger-than-life figure. 868 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,320 And it's clear, you know, that they had a very close bond, 869 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,960 as he did, in different ways, with all of his children. 870 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,440 But in 2017, when Prince Philip retired, 871 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,640 it was Edward who took over many of his father's charities, 872 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,920 including the most well known - the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. 873 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,480 Back in 1956, the Duke of Edinburgh established 874 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,040 the Duke of Edinburgh Award, 875 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,320 which was a way of getting young people 876 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,520 out into nature, doing challenges. 877 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640 It was his baby, he promoted it, 878 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,240 and it was really, really successful. 879 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560 It's been praised to the skies for helping young people. 880 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,880 Edward went on, in 1986, 881 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,680 to complete his Duke of Edinburgh scheme 882 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,680 and came away with a gold badge. 883 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,160 And this was a joy for Prince Philip. 884 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,560 He was absolutely delighted by it. 885 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,480 Edward and Philip had a marvellously close 886 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,360 and a deeply affectionate, loving relationship. 887 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,120 He was immensely proud of him. 888 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,120 And while Philip was undoubtedly proud 889 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,840 of his youngest son's achievement, 890 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,080 it didn't stop him being a target 891 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,560 of Prince Philip's famous sense of humour. 892 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,920 He's got a gold award. But for that, he would've been a dropout. 893 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,480 Yeah, probably. 894 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,720 Edward was asked about the Duke of Edinburgh scheme, 895 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,800 why it was so important to him, and he sort of said, 896 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,880 "Well, a lot of people just think it's in my DNA." 897 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,400 Edward's passion for the Duke of Edinburgh Awards 898 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200 was clear when he addressed gold badge winners 899 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,920 at this year's Buckingham Palace Garden Party. 900 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,760 Life will continue to throw challenges at you. 901 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,600 It'll continue to throw opportunities at you. 902 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,120 I think because you have done the award, 903 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,920 you will have the confidence 904 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,680 to be able to take that unexpected journey. 905 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,720 I think he really just wants to connect with young people, 906 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440 give them... you know, give them a bit of encouragement, 907 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,960 give them a bit of a morale booster. 908 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,760 Now I think there are Duke of Edinburgh Award schemes 909 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,440 in something like 144 countries around the world, 910 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,840 which is an incredible legacy in itself. 911 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,240 And Edward wants to build on that. 912 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,600 It was a source of huge pride 913 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160 to his father, Prince Philip, 914 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,200 that Prince Edward had worked so tirelessly and so hard 915 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:10,160 to promote this charity and cause 916 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520 for young people around the world. 917 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,640 I think he wants to honour his father's memory as best he can, 918 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,640 and he carries responsibility of ensuring 919 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,400 that his father's greatest gift to this country continues. 920 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,160 Edward has certainly come a long way since his early mistakes 921 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,400 and is making a positive contribution 922 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640 within Charles's modern monarchy. 923 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:39,360 Charles needs Edward and Sophie to do the humdrum royal engagements. 924 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,760 Queen Elizabeth had 600 royal patronages. 925 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960 None of those have been reallocated. 926 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,960 There's no way that all of those can be taken on by various members. 927 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,320 Edward will take them on. 928 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,280 Actually, look at him today, 929 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200 and alongside the Duchess of Edinburgh, 930 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,840 they are now in the press for all the right reasons. 931 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,400 We're talking about their work, 932 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,400 we're talking about the important spotlight 933 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,560 they're putting on young people, on how they're supporting the King. 934 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,680 In March 2023, Charles awarded Edward their father's dukedom. 935 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:13,640 And at Trooping the Colour, the King's first official birthday, 936 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,080 it was his brother Prince Edward who was out by his side. 937 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,040 They've barely put a step wrong 938 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,240 since they became full-time working royals. 939 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,680 He's managed to create an aura around him 940 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,040 that he's a safe part of hands, he's reliable. 941 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,320 It's essential for Charles to have senior working royals 942 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,440 like Edward and Sophie out there, front and centre, 943 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,080 working hard, showing why the royal family is still relevant. 79327

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