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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,834 --> 00:00:03,704 Previously on "The Practice"... 2 00:00:03,767 --> 00:00:06,436 My client was in shock at the time of this interrogation. 3 00:00:06,469 --> 00:00:09,773 He'd just found his wife dead less than an hour before this. 4 00:00:09,806 --> 00:00:11,441 She said that if she turned up missing 5 00:00:11,474 --> 00:00:13,143 that I should call the police 6 00:00:13,176 --> 00:00:14,678 because Scott probably did something to her. 7 00:00:14,711 --> 00:00:16,312 BOBBY: Objection! 8 00:00:16,346 --> 00:00:20,183 We find the defendant Scott Wallace...guilty. 9 00:00:20,216 --> 00:00:22,118 You got to get me out. 10 00:00:22,152 --> 00:00:23,286 -Scott-- -Get me out! 11 00:00:23,319 --> 00:00:24,788 You got a problem. 12 00:00:24,821 --> 00:00:27,591 The man is on the verge of a psychotic breakdown. 13 00:00:27,624 --> 00:00:29,726 He needs to be transferred to a mental facility right now. 14 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,795 I'm convinced that Kyle Barrett 15 00:00:31,828 --> 00:00:33,196 lied on the stand 16 00:00:33,229 --> 00:00:35,331 after being coached by the prosecution. 17 00:00:35,365 --> 00:00:37,467 Mr. Barrett, you had a meeting 18 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:39,202 with Richard Bay and Helen Gamble, did you not? 19 00:00:39,235 --> 00:00:40,671 On the advice of counsel, 20 00:00:40,704 --> 00:00:43,339 I'm exercising my fifth amendment right 21 00:00:43,373 --> 00:00:45,241 not to answer your question. 22 00:00:45,275 --> 00:00:47,611 I have been ordered to conduct a full hearing 23 00:00:47,644 --> 00:00:49,412 into this perjury business. 24 00:00:49,445 --> 00:00:50,881 That hearing has been thwarted by the primary witness 25 00:00:50,914 --> 00:00:53,283 exercising his fifth amendment right. 26 00:00:53,316 --> 00:00:55,619 The conviction of Scott Wallace is hereby set aside. 27 00:00:55,652 --> 00:00:58,855 It is the order of this court that he be granted a new trial. 28 00:00:58,889 --> 00:01:01,091 This is the part that kills us. 29 00:01:03,727 --> 00:01:05,128 That's the bomb. 30 00:01:05,161 --> 00:01:07,497 This time you will have to testify. 31 00:01:07,531 --> 00:01:09,900 I can handle all the witnesses. We're in good shape there. 32 00:01:09,933 --> 00:01:11,467 But that videotape 33 00:01:11,501 --> 00:01:13,837 and your response to it on the stand-- 34 00:01:13,870 --> 00:01:16,206 that's what will decide this case. 35 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:17,774 I'm ready. 36 00:01:19,776 --> 00:01:23,747 REPORTER: Do you feel pressure because he's your friend 37 00:01:23,780 --> 00:01:26,216 or because you failed him? 38 00:01:26,249 --> 00:01:28,785 Both. 39 00:01:28,819 --> 00:01:31,421 I want to get him out because I care about him 40 00:01:31,454 --> 00:01:35,491 and, yeah, because I tried a lousy case. 41 00:01:35,525 --> 00:01:38,394 Of course I feel pressure. How could I not? 42 00:01:38,428 --> 00:01:40,230 This guy committed murder, 43 00:01:40,263 --> 00:01:44,334 and the only thing standing between him and the street... 44 00:01:44,367 --> 00:01:45,702 is me. 45 00:01:45,736 --> 00:01:48,171 It's a bit unusual for the lead prosecutor 46 00:01:48,204 --> 00:01:50,607 to suddenly flip and think he's innocent. 47 00:01:50,641 --> 00:01:53,577 Helen Gamble started feeling guilty over tactics, 48 00:01:53,610 --> 00:01:55,712 and she became clouded by her conscience. 49 00:01:55,746 --> 00:01:57,247 That's all. 50 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,284 She claims you coached a witness to lie. 51 00:02:01,317 --> 00:02:02,886 She's wrong. 52 00:02:02,919 --> 00:02:05,288 Richard Bay will do anything. 53 00:02:05,321 --> 00:02:09,359 D.A.s like him make it easier for defense attorneys like me 54 00:02:09,392 --> 00:02:11,828 to stay passionate about what we do 55 00:02:11,862 --> 00:02:15,732 because to me, he basically represents a police state. 56 00:02:15,766 --> 00:02:18,635 Oh, I don't expect it to be at all civil. 57 00:02:18,669 --> 00:02:20,971 Bobby Donnell fights for clients 58 00:02:21,004 --> 00:02:23,439 like it was his life on the line 59 00:02:23,473 --> 00:02:27,277 and Richard Bay prosecutes like the victim was his mother. 60 00:02:27,310 --> 00:02:29,813 Isn't that good-- zealous advocates? 61 00:02:29,846 --> 00:02:32,448 Isn't that what it should be about? 62 00:02:32,482 --> 00:02:33,650 One would think, 63 00:02:33,684 --> 00:02:35,819 but when fights get this ugly, 64 00:02:35,852 --> 00:02:38,488 it's rarely in the interest of truth. 65 00:02:38,521 --> 00:02:40,957 It's messy. It gets personal. 66 00:02:40,991 --> 00:02:42,826 Do you think you'll win? 67 00:02:42,859 --> 00:02:44,294 I know I will. 68 00:02:44,327 --> 00:02:45,962 How can you be so sure? 69 00:02:45,996 --> 00:02:47,964 Because this time I have the video, 70 00:02:47,998 --> 00:02:49,733 which means Scott Wallace 71 00:02:49,766 --> 00:02:51,968 will have to take the stand and explain it, 72 00:02:52,002 --> 00:02:54,437 and when he does, I'll get him. 73 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:56,640 He'll lose it up there. 74 00:02:56,673 --> 00:02:59,275 You watch. 75 00:03:00,276 --> 00:03:02,779 ♪ (theme) 76 00:03:49,059 --> 00:03:53,263 (horns honking) 77 00:03:56,739 --> 00:04:02,400 (siren wails) 78 00:04:02,839 --> 00:04:05,075 BAY: Witnesses are never objective. 79 00:04:05,108 --> 00:04:07,811 Of course, I want you to appear neutral, 80 00:04:07,844 --> 00:04:10,747 but you need to be every bit the advocate I am. 81 00:04:10,781 --> 00:04:13,750 Never forget-- your goal is to help the prosecution 82 00:04:13,784 --> 00:04:15,385 secure a conviction, 83 00:04:15,418 --> 00:04:17,487 to put a murderer in prison. 84 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,490 That means you're gonna have to stand up to Bobby Donnell. 85 00:04:20,523 --> 00:04:22,392 You can't be steered, 86 00:04:22,425 --> 00:04:24,327 and he will absolutely try to do just that. 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,597 His whole defense is reasonable doubt. 88 00:04:26,630 --> 00:04:29,766 Every question he asks you, it's to build reasonable doubt. 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,334 At the first trial 90 00:04:31,367 --> 00:04:33,770 he got you all to admit things were possible, 91 00:04:33,804 --> 00:04:36,006 and you all did so too submissively. 92 00:04:36,039 --> 00:04:38,875 This is why I've brought Cindy Keller in tonight. 93 00:04:38,909 --> 00:04:41,477 She's our behavioral psychologist. 94 00:04:41,511 --> 00:04:43,346 When the defense lawyer 95 00:04:43,379 --> 00:04:46,482 forces you to say the words that he wants you to say, 96 00:04:46,516 --> 00:04:48,619 you can, nevertheless, 97 00:04:48,652 --> 00:04:51,622 use body language to convey your opinion. 98 00:04:51,655 --> 00:04:53,056 It's all a presentation, 99 00:04:53,089 --> 00:04:55,592 and you have to train your witnesses 100 00:04:55,626 --> 00:04:57,427 to be showmen a little. 101 00:04:57,460 --> 00:05:00,597 The key is, they can't come off too much like advocates. 102 00:05:00,631 --> 00:05:03,033 If they do, they have less credibility. 103 00:05:03,066 --> 00:05:06,603 We used to have an advantage. People trusted the police. 104 00:05:06,637 --> 00:05:08,371 That advantage is gone now. 105 00:05:08,404 --> 00:05:10,506 BOBBY: Because they cheat, 106 00:05:10,541 --> 00:05:13,509 and Richard Bay will cheat. He absolutely will. 107 00:05:13,544 --> 00:05:15,879 That seems to be a refrain with you. 108 00:05:15,912 --> 00:05:19,449 One that I have to be mindful of the entire trial. 109 00:05:19,482 --> 00:05:21,618 What will be different about this trial? 110 00:05:21,652 --> 00:05:23,053 I'm gonna win. 111 00:05:23,086 --> 00:05:25,455 I mean tactics, evidence, witnesses. 112 00:05:25,488 --> 00:05:27,691 What will be different there? 113 00:05:30,827 --> 00:05:33,396 That tape... 114 00:05:33,429 --> 00:05:35,899 that damn videotape. 115 00:05:35,932 --> 00:05:39,936 He'll play it every chance he gets. 116 00:05:39,970 --> 00:05:42,639 HELEN: We think you had an argument. 117 00:05:42,673 --> 00:05:45,842 You hit her... maybe by accident. 118 00:05:45,876 --> 00:05:47,911 She was unconscious. 119 00:05:47,944 --> 00:05:50,947 You were afraid of how it might look. 120 00:05:50,981 --> 00:05:55,418 You put her in the car to make it look like a suicide. 121 00:05:55,451 --> 00:05:58,454 That's what happened, isn't it? 122 00:06:06,129 --> 00:06:09,099 Detective Larson, does that videotape 123 00:06:09,132 --> 00:06:12,769 fairly and accurately depict what happened in that room? 124 00:06:12,803 --> 00:06:14,037 Yes, it does. 125 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:16,039 What did happen in that room? 126 00:06:16,072 --> 00:06:17,574 From my experience, 127 00:06:17,608 --> 00:06:20,611 Scott Wallace admitted to killing his wife. 128 00:06:20,644 --> 00:06:21,678 Objection. 129 00:06:21,712 --> 00:06:23,680 Overruled. 130 00:06:23,714 --> 00:06:26,850 Did he ever say he killed his wife? 131 00:06:26,883 --> 00:06:28,885 -No, but-- -In fact, he maintained his innocence, 132 00:06:28,919 --> 00:06:30,887 and he still does, doesn't he, detective? 133 00:06:30,921 --> 00:06:31,955 But when confronted-- 134 00:06:31,988 --> 00:06:33,590 When you say "admitted," 135 00:06:33,624 --> 00:06:36,226 you mean the behavior we just witnessed on this tape. 136 00:06:36,259 --> 00:06:38,795 -Right, detective? -Correct. 137 00:06:38,829 --> 00:06:41,464 With words, he's always maintained his innocence, 138 00:06:41,497 --> 00:06:42,633 hasn't he, detective? 139 00:06:42,666 --> 00:06:44,535 With words, yes. 140 00:06:44,568 --> 00:06:46,970 Are you a psychologist, detective? 141 00:06:47,003 --> 00:06:48,972 No, I'm not. 142 00:06:49,005 --> 00:06:50,874 And if a psychologist was of the opinion 143 00:06:50,907 --> 00:06:52,743 that Mr. Wallace's behavior on that tape-- 144 00:06:52,776 --> 00:06:55,879 Objection. He's trying to introduce psychiatric testi-- 145 00:06:55,912 --> 00:06:57,147 I'm posing a hypothetical to the witness. 146 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:58,682 I'll allow it. 147 00:06:58,715 --> 00:07:01,184 If a psychologist was of the opinion that 148 00:07:01,217 --> 00:07:02,786 Mr. Wallace's breakdown on that tape 149 00:07:02,819 --> 00:07:04,755 was more the product of despondency-- 150 00:07:04,788 --> 00:07:07,758 Your honor, if he wants to introduce psychiatric testimony, he-- 151 00:07:07,791 --> 00:07:09,826 Mr. Bay, your objection is overruled. 152 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:12,729 BOBBY: Once again, 153 00:07:12,763 --> 00:07:15,498 if a psychologist looked at that tape 154 00:07:15,532 --> 00:07:17,000 and concluded that it did not constitute 155 00:07:17,033 --> 00:07:18,201 an admission to the crime, 156 00:07:18,234 --> 00:07:20,036 do you have any medical training 157 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:21,905 which would enable you to overrule him? 158 00:07:21,938 --> 00:07:23,874 Do I have any medical training? 159 00:07:23,907 --> 00:07:25,075 No. But-- 160 00:07:25,108 --> 00:07:27,110 Thank you, detective. That's all. 161 00:07:28,745 --> 00:07:30,814 How many suspects have you interrogated 162 00:07:30,847 --> 00:07:32,515 in the course of your career? 163 00:07:32,549 --> 00:07:33,784 Hundreds. 164 00:07:33,817 --> 00:07:36,152 Hundreds. Do you think you would recognize 165 00:07:36,186 --> 00:07:38,589 a silent admission if you saw one? 166 00:07:38,622 --> 00:07:39,856 Absolutely. 167 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:42,726 Based on your experience as a police officer 168 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:45,629 who has conducted hundreds of interrogations, 169 00:07:45,662 --> 00:07:48,699 what did Scott Wallace's silence convey to you? 170 00:07:48,732 --> 00:07:50,634 An admission that he committed murder. 171 00:07:50,667 --> 00:07:53,103 Thank you. 172 00:07:53,136 --> 00:07:56,072 Do you have any formal training in behavioral psychology? 173 00:07:56,106 --> 00:07:57,808 No, I don't. 174 00:07:57,841 --> 00:07:59,209 Thank you. 175 00:08:04,047 --> 00:08:07,584 When we first started, it was just Bobby and me, 176 00:08:07,618 --> 00:08:10,020 and he was so wide-eyed-- 177 00:08:10,053 --> 00:08:12,823 every case, his eyes-- 178 00:08:12,856 --> 00:08:14,858 Oh, and if it was a murder case, 179 00:08:14,891 --> 00:08:17,961 God, the light coming out from his eyes... 180 00:08:17,994 --> 00:08:21,031 and it didn't bother him a bit if the guy was probably guilty. 181 00:08:21,064 --> 00:08:23,199 He'd say, "Bec, we defend the guilty 182 00:08:23,233 --> 00:08:25,301 because ultimately it protects the innocent." 183 00:08:25,335 --> 00:08:27,604 Or he'd say that was the high-- 184 00:08:27,638 --> 00:08:31,041 You know, when you got a guy that was actually innocent. 185 00:08:31,074 --> 00:08:34,778 And now he hates it when they're innocent, 186 00:08:34,811 --> 00:08:36,680 like this one. 187 00:08:36,713 --> 00:08:38,048 It's too much pressure. 188 00:08:38,081 --> 00:08:40,684 That's why none of us last on this job. 189 00:08:40,717 --> 00:08:44,220 You can only bear defending the guilty. 190 00:08:44,254 --> 00:08:48,324 And how long can anyone last doing that? 191 00:08:48,358 --> 00:08:51,862 He was screaming at her, calling her a liar. 192 00:08:51,895 --> 00:08:54,364 She was pleading with him to stop screaming. 193 00:08:54,397 --> 00:08:56,967 Are you sure this was around 9:30 p. m.? 194 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,970 Yes. That's when I walk my dog. 195 00:09:00,003 --> 00:09:02,238 You recognized my client's voice screaming 196 00:09:02,272 --> 00:09:04,675 because you'd heard him scream before? 197 00:09:04,708 --> 00:09:06,843 -Many times. -So there wasn't anything 198 00:09:06,877 --> 00:09:09,379 hugely unusual about them arguing that night. 199 00:09:09,412 --> 00:09:11,682 No. They fought a lot. 200 00:09:11,715 --> 00:09:14,384 And, in fact, you didn't call the police 201 00:09:14,417 --> 00:09:17,988 or try to intervene, did you, sir? 202 00:09:18,021 --> 00:09:20,390 No. 203 00:09:20,423 --> 00:09:24,127 I wasn't crazy about calling that witness in the first trial. 204 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,062 I wasn't thrilled about it here. 205 00:09:26,096 --> 00:09:28,098 But I have to establish a time line. 206 00:09:28,131 --> 00:09:29,800 As a rule, 207 00:09:29,833 --> 00:09:32,135 when you come across anemic little wimps like Mr. Berenson 208 00:09:32,168 --> 00:09:35,171 who haven't got the guts to get involved at the time, 209 00:09:35,205 --> 00:09:36,807 you can be sure 210 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,275 they'll be pretty impotent as witnesses, too. 211 00:09:39,309 --> 00:09:43,947 But I needed to get in the time line. 212 00:09:43,980 --> 00:09:46,416 REPORTER: Why are you so sure he's innocent? 213 00:09:46,449 --> 00:09:49,686 Because I am. I know him. 214 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,989 Plus, he passed the polygraph. That's what really gets me. 215 00:09:53,023 --> 00:09:55,425 I mean, they may not be admissible, 216 00:09:55,458 --> 00:09:58,695 but lie detectors are pretty damn reliable. 217 00:09:58,729 --> 00:10:00,831 And the prosecution and the police-- 218 00:10:00,864 --> 00:10:03,700 they believe in them more than I do. 219 00:10:03,734 --> 00:10:06,970 Here we got a guy who passes over and over and over, 220 00:10:07,003 --> 00:10:08,438 and they still prosecute. 221 00:10:08,471 --> 00:10:10,006 Why, do you think? 222 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,275 Because the media declared this a murder, 223 00:10:12,308 --> 00:10:14,745 and there was an ensuing public outcry 224 00:10:14,778 --> 00:10:16,046 to get a conviction. 225 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:19,215 There seems to be such a huge distrust here. 226 00:10:19,249 --> 00:10:20,851 You have no idea. 227 00:10:20,884 --> 00:10:22,218 When I first started, 228 00:10:22,252 --> 00:10:24,220 the D. A. s and defense attorneys-- 229 00:10:24,254 --> 00:10:26,322 we'd all go out at the end of the day. 230 00:10:26,356 --> 00:10:27,924 There were watering holes 231 00:10:27,958 --> 00:10:29,926 where we'd congregate, swap stories. 232 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,196 You fought hard in court, but after, it was a-- 233 00:10:33,229 --> 00:10:35,331 it was a brotherhood. 234 00:10:35,365 --> 00:10:38,201 Today we go our separate ways. 235 00:10:38,234 --> 00:10:40,470 They don't trust us, we don't trust them. 236 00:10:40,503 --> 00:10:42,305 What happened? 237 00:10:42,338 --> 00:10:47,310 It became too much about winning and losing. 238 00:10:47,343 --> 00:10:49,045 We analyzed a skin fragment 239 00:10:49,079 --> 00:10:51,414 found under the defendant's fingernail. 240 00:10:51,447 --> 00:10:54,050 It was a genetic match to Mrs. Wallace. 241 00:10:54,084 --> 00:10:57,053 Did you do any other DNA testing, Dr. Wang? 242 00:10:57,087 --> 00:10:58,955 Oh, yes. We found shed skin cells 243 00:10:58,989 --> 00:11:01,057 all over the victim's head and neck. 244 00:11:01,091 --> 00:11:04,227 They belong to the defendant Scott Wallace. 245 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:07,831 If Scott Wallace were trying to save his wife, 246 00:11:07,864 --> 00:11:09,099 resuscitate her, 247 00:11:09,132 --> 00:11:11,234 it's possible his skin cells 248 00:11:11,267 --> 00:11:13,837 could have gotten on her that way, am I right? 249 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:16,439 In my experience, that would be unlikely. 250 00:11:16,472 --> 00:11:19,242 I asked if it were possible. 251 00:11:19,275 --> 00:11:21,845 I suppose it's possible. 252 00:11:21,878 --> 00:11:23,847 And it's possible, isn't it, doctor, 253 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,248 that Mrs. Wallace had decided 254 00:11:25,281 --> 00:11:27,183 she wanted to compete in the Olympics, 255 00:11:27,217 --> 00:11:29,019 and while practicing a back flip, 256 00:11:29,052 --> 00:11:31,021 she accidentally hit her head on a blunt instrument 257 00:11:31,054 --> 00:11:33,023 -being held by the defendant? -Objection! 258 00:11:33,056 --> 00:11:35,291 As long as we're going for far-fetched possibilities... 259 00:11:35,325 --> 00:11:36,459 Move to strike! 260 00:11:36,492 --> 00:11:37,861 Mr. Bay, that is quite enough. 261 00:11:39,062 --> 00:11:40,263 Dr. Wang, 262 00:11:40,296 --> 00:11:42,465 based on your years of experience 263 00:11:42,498 --> 00:11:45,936 as a forensic pathologist, did you form an opinion 264 00:11:45,969 --> 00:11:48,304 as to the likelihood of what happened? 265 00:11:48,338 --> 00:11:49,940 Yes, I did. 266 00:11:49,973 --> 00:11:52,275 Could you state that for the court, please? 267 00:11:52,308 --> 00:11:54,845 She was killed by the defendant. 268 00:11:54,878 --> 00:11:56,279 The defense has suggested 269 00:11:56,312 --> 00:11:58,481 Mr. Wallace discovered his wife in the car, 270 00:11:58,514 --> 00:12:00,884 she wasn't breathing, he pulled her out, 271 00:12:00,917 --> 00:12:03,053 and her head struck the concrete floor, 272 00:12:03,086 --> 00:12:04,420 causing the fracture. 273 00:12:04,454 --> 00:12:07,323 Yes, I think this is a bit of a fairy tale. 274 00:12:07,357 --> 00:12:10,160 The fracture-- she was hit very hard. 275 00:12:10,193 --> 00:12:12,295 Is it possible that she could have gotten this 276 00:12:12,328 --> 00:12:14,497 after she died by her head hitting the floor? 277 00:12:14,530 --> 00:12:16,132 Anything's possible. 278 00:12:16,166 --> 00:12:19,069 My medical opinion is somebody hit her. 279 00:12:19,102 --> 00:12:21,137 Doctor, in the first trial, 280 00:12:21,171 --> 00:12:24,440 you testified that this fracture was severe enough to be fatal. 281 00:12:24,474 --> 00:12:25,976 Didn't you say that? 282 00:12:26,009 --> 00:12:26,977 I did. 283 00:12:27,010 --> 00:12:28,979 Was it the cause of death? 284 00:12:29,012 --> 00:12:31,582 No, the cause of death was monoxide poisoning. 285 00:12:31,615 --> 00:12:34,150 So it's possible that the head fracture 286 00:12:34,184 --> 00:12:37,087 came after she died of the car exhaust, right? 287 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,822 That's not what I think happened, 288 00:12:38,855 --> 00:12:40,824 but I can't declare it to be impossible. 289 00:12:40,857 --> 00:12:42,993 Doctor, you're employed by the commonwealth, aren't you? 290 00:12:43,026 --> 00:12:45,061 -Yes. -Do you ever get afraid of losing your job 291 00:12:45,095 --> 00:12:46,563 if you don't secure convictions-- 292 00:12:46,597 --> 00:12:47,964 -Objection! -Sustained. 293 00:12:47,998 --> 00:12:49,365 BOBBY: Goes to bias, your honor. 294 00:12:49,399 --> 00:12:51,434 The objection is sustained. That's it! 295 00:12:51,467 --> 00:12:53,837 Now let's move on. 296 00:12:53,870 --> 00:12:55,839 It's what he does when he's losing. 297 00:12:55,872 --> 00:12:58,274 It's an excellent sign for the prosecution 298 00:12:58,308 --> 00:13:01,277 when Bobby Donnell starts to resort to crap like that. 299 00:13:01,311 --> 00:13:03,246 It means he thinks he's losing. 300 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:04,848 In the first trial, 301 00:13:04,881 --> 00:13:07,117 he was getting his possibles, then resting. 302 00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:09,119 He was more desperate just then. 303 00:13:09,152 --> 00:13:11,555 Did you see it? 304 00:13:11,588 --> 00:13:13,557 He's going down again... 305 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:17,393 this time with nothing to appeal. 306 00:13:22,232 --> 00:13:27,203 You know, I keep thinking it'll all get corrected. 307 00:13:27,237 --> 00:13:30,941 They've made this terrible mistake, 308 00:13:30,974 --> 00:13:33,443 and this is the land of truth and justice, 309 00:13:33,476 --> 00:13:35,946 it'll all get cleared up. 310 00:13:35,979 --> 00:13:38,481 But here I am. 311 00:13:38,514 --> 00:13:42,485 REPORTER: The thinking is for you to get acquitted, 312 00:13:42,518 --> 00:13:45,488 it'll come down to your testimony. 313 00:13:45,521 --> 00:13:47,457 Yeah, I know this. 314 00:13:47,490 --> 00:13:49,325 I know this. 315 00:13:51,327 --> 00:13:53,329 Are you scared? 316 00:13:56,066 --> 00:13:59,469 It's way beyond that now. 317 00:13:59,502 --> 00:14:01,471 BOBBY: I think that's enough. 318 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:03,574 REPORTER: The arrangement is complete access. 319 00:14:03,607 --> 00:14:06,042 Well, that's all. You'll have to leave. 320 00:14:06,076 --> 00:14:07,443 Bobby, Kyle Barrett isn't testifying. 321 00:14:07,477 --> 00:14:09,245 Why? 322 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:11,147 Bay just notified the court they're resting. We're up. 323 00:14:11,181 --> 00:14:12,182 Well, call Dr. Murphy. He's going to-- 324 00:14:12,215 --> 00:14:13,483 I did. He's on his way. 325 00:14:13,516 --> 00:14:15,351 Why isn't her brother testifying? 326 00:14:15,385 --> 00:14:17,353 I don't need him. 327 00:14:17,387 --> 00:14:19,022 Plus, he'd get peeled like an onion up there. 328 00:14:19,055 --> 00:14:20,523 He's a liability. 329 00:14:20,557 --> 00:14:22,959 REPORTER: I thought you said he was telling the truth. 330 00:14:22,993 --> 00:14:24,260 I never said that. 331 00:14:24,294 --> 00:14:26,262 I only said I don't know if he's lying. 332 00:14:26,296 --> 00:14:28,532 That sounds a little questionable. 333 00:14:28,565 --> 00:14:30,701 Hey, question away. 334 00:14:30,734 --> 00:14:33,704 I only put on the witnesses I think will help me win. 335 00:14:33,737 --> 00:14:35,471 Kyle Barrett doesn't qualify. 336 00:14:35,505 --> 00:14:37,107 But this is the witness 337 00:14:37,140 --> 00:14:39,075 who got you the conviction in the first trial. 338 00:14:39,109 --> 00:14:41,545 In the first trial, I didn't have the video. 339 00:14:41,578 --> 00:14:44,314 Scott Wallace was suffering from clinical depression. 340 00:14:44,347 --> 00:14:47,117 Were you able to determine the cause, doctor? 341 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:48,585 Twin positional traumas. 342 00:14:48,619 --> 00:14:50,954 The first was his wife's death. 343 00:14:50,987 --> 00:14:53,957 The second, his being accused of that death. 344 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:55,391 Doctor, you recommended 345 00:14:55,425 --> 00:14:58,428 that Scott Wallace be hospitalized, did you not? 346 00:14:58,461 --> 00:14:59,429 I did. 347 00:14:59,462 --> 00:15:00,964 Can you tell us why? 348 00:15:00,997 --> 00:15:02,966 I found him to be very close 349 00:15:02,999 --> 00:15:04,968 to a complete mental breakdown. 350 00:15:05,001 --> 00:15:06,603 Doctor, you've seen this tape before. 351 00:15:06,637 --> 00:15:09,606 I want to play you a small portion again. 352 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,676 HELEN: ...look like a suicide. 353 00:15:12,709 --> 00:15:16,947 That's what happened, isn't it? 354 00:15:19,616 --> 00:15:22,418 You've heard the prosecution characterize that moment 355 00:15:22,452 --> 00:15:25,689 as an admission of guilt by Scott Wallace. 356 00:15:25,722 --> 00:15:27,624 I think that conclusion 357 00:15:27,658 --> 00:15:29,525 is as dangerous as it is absurd. 358 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,262 He'd only just discovered within the last two hours 359 00:15:32,295 --> 00:15:33,697 that his wife was dead, 360 00:15:33,730 --> 00:15:35,999 then he's taken down to the police station, 361 00:15:36,032 --> 00:15:38,468 he's hit with the accusation that he murdered her. 362 00:15:38,501 --> 00:15:41,171 To a guilty man, that wouldn't be as much of a shock, 363 00:15:41,204 --> 00:15:43,173 but to an innocent one, 364 00:15:43,206 --> 00:15:45,008 that could cause the very trauma I'm talking about. 365 00:15:45,041 --> 00:15:46,276 And when he dropped his head... 366 00:15:46,309 --> 00:15:47,644 It was in shock. 367 00:15:47,678 --> 00:15:52,315 That was likely the beginning of his breakdown. 368 00:15:52,348 --> 00:15:54,450 You can state that for a medical certainty? 369 00:15:54,484 --> 00:15:56,152 No, but-- 370 00:15:56,186 --> 00:15:58,388 And you were not in the room at the time, were you, doctor? 371 00:15:58,421 --> 00:16:00,056 No, I was not. 372 00:16:00,090 --> 00:16:02,559 But if that makes me incapable of drawing a conclusion 373 00:16:02,593 --> 00:16:04,595 on the basis of the video tape, 374 00:16:04,628 --> 00:16:06,329 why are you asking the jury to do so? 375 00:16:06,362 --> 00:16:08,732 You spoke of twin positional traumas, 376 00:16:08,765 --> 00:16:11,267 one of those traumas being the loss of his wife. 377 00:16:11,301 --> 00:16:13,169 Yes? 378 00:16:13,203 --> 00:16:14,705 For this to be so, 379 00:16:14,738 --> 00:16:17,173 he would have to have loved his wife very deeply, I assume. 380 00:16:17,207 --> 00:16:19,075 And he did, from my observations. 381 00:16:19,109 --> 00:16:21,244 Well, if this wife who he loved deeply 382 00:16:21,277 --> 00:16:23,113 told him she was leaving him, 383 00:16:23,146 --> 00:16:26,082 -couldn't that be traumatic? -Certainly. 384 00:16:26,116 --> 00:16:28,051 Is it possible that's when this mental breakdown started-- 385 00:16:28,084 --> 00:16:29,720 when she said she was leaving him? 386 00:16:29,753 --> 00:16:32,188 I suppose it's possible, but I don't think likely. 387 00:16:32,222 --> 00:16:34,290 Doctor, according to your diagnosis, 388 00:16:34,324 --> 00:16:35,726 you said Scott Wallace 389 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:38,394 was in danger of becoming psychotic, didn't you? 390 00:16:38,428 --> 00:16:41,131 He never became psychotic, Mr. Bay. 391 00:16:45,101 --> 00:16:47,437 Sometimes when you get a tough witness, 392 00:16:47,470 --> 00:16:50,440 you take what you can get and sit the hell down. 393 00:16:50,473 --> 00:16:52,175 I thought I handled him well. 394 00:16:52,208 --> 00:16:54,344 REPORTER: And now you have the victim's psychiatrist. 395 00:16:54,377 --> 00:16:55,712 I'm not afraid of him. 396 00:16:55,746 --> 00:16:57,347 How can you not be? 397 00:16:57,380 --> 00:16:59,282 He's going to testify that she was depressed. 398 00:16:59,315 --> 00:17:01,284 He'll say depressed, then on cross, 399 00:17:01,317 --> 00:17:04,487 I'll get him to say she wasn't suicidal, then on redirect, 400 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,190 Bobby will claim he has motive to say she wasn't suicidal 401 00:17:07,223 --> 00:17:09,626 so he doesn't have her blood on his hands. 402 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:11,294 It's vintage Bobby Donnell. 403 00:17:11,327 --> 00:17:12,663 He gets a witness to help him, then he hangs him out. 404 00:17:12,696 --> 00:17:14,130 You watch. 405 00:17:14,164 --> 00:17:16,132 You seem a little more agitated now. 406 00:17:16,166 --> 00:17:18,134 I'm not agitated. This is adrenaline. 407 00:17:18,168 --> 00:17:19,836 It's a fight. This-- 408 00:17:19,870 --> 00:17:21,605 I'm not agitated. 409 00:17:21,638 --> 00:17:24,608 My little informal poll in the gallery-- 410 00:17:24,641 --> 00:17:26,677 they think you're losing. 411 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:28,311 I'm not losing. 412 00:17:28,344 --> 00:17:30,313 Why would people think you are? 413 00:17:30,346 --> 00:17:32,616 Because with galleries, it's about popularity. 414 00:17:32,649 --> 00:17:34,585 Bobby Donnell is good-looking. 415 00:17:34,618 --> 00:17:37,153 With juries, it's about weighing evidence, 416 00:17:37,187 --> 00:17:38,889 and they'll do that. 417 00:17:38,922 --> 00:17:41,291 I'm not losing. 418 00:17:42,659 --> 00:17:45,195 What were you treating Karen Wallace for? 419 00:17:45,228 --> 00:17:46,730 Anxiety, depression. 420 00:17:46,763 --> 00:17:48,131 Depression? 421 00:17:48,164 --> 00:17:49,299 Yes. 422 00:17:49,332 --> 00:17:51,301 What was she depressed over? 423 00:17:51,334 --> 00:17:52,836 Mainly her marriage. 424 00:17:52,869 --> 00:17:55,205 She felt it was rather loveless. 425 00:17:55,238 --> 00:17:56,907 Also her life. 426 00:17:56,940 --> 00:17:59,375 Did you regard her as suicidal? 427 00:17:59,409 --> 00:18:00,777 No, I did not. 428 00:18:00,811 --> 00:18:03,379 But, doctor, now that she's turned up dead, 429 00:18:03,413 --> 00:18:06,249 do you now think perhaps she was suicidal? 430 00:18:06,282 --> 00:18:08,384 No, I do not. 431 00:18:08,418 --> 00:18:11,221 Many people experience depression and hopelessness. 432 00:18:11,254 --> 00:18:13,523 That doesn't mean they take their lives. 433 00:18:13,557 --> 00:18:16,526 I mean, the very reason that Mrs. Wallace had come to me 434 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,162 was to improve things. She was looking forward. 435 00:18:19,195 --> 00:18:21,164 I don't believe at all that she had the mental state 436 00:18:21,197 --> 00:18:22,666 to take her own life. 437 00:18:22,699 --> 00:18:24,668 How did it make you feel 438 00:18:24,701 --> 00:18:27,671 to learn that a patient you had been treating for depression 439 00:18:27,704 --> 00:18:29,339 killed herself? 440 00:18:29,372 --> 00:18:31,542 Obviously, it was distressing to hear it. 441 00:18:31,575 --> 00:18:34,177 Certainly a person experiencing hopelessness, 442 00:18:34,210 --> 00:18:36,547 suffering depression, found dead from monoxide poisoning 443 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:40,183 with a hose connected to the exhaust pipe of the car-- 444 00:18:40,216 --> 00:18:43,554 you had to wonder if maybe she did kill herself. 445 00:18:43,587 --> 00:18:45,956 Didn't you at least wonder, doctor? 446 00:18:45,989 --> 00:18:47,691 I wondered, 447 00:18:47,724 --> 00:18:50,293 but I still don't believe she took her life. 448 00:18:50,326 --> 00:18:52,495 Well, if it were foreseeable that she might take her life 449 00:18:52,528 --> 00:18:53,964 and you did nothing, 450 00:18:53,997 --> 00:18:56,366 you might be held liable, isn't that right, doctor? 451 00:18:56,399 --> 00:18:58,902 What are you saying, Mr. Donnell? 452 00:18:58,935 --> 00:19:01,805 I'm saying you have motive to deny she was suicidal. 453 00:19:01,838 --> 00:19:03,439 Objection-- leading. 454 00:19:03,473 --> 00:19:05,542 After she's found dead, you don't even 455 00:19:05,576 --> 00:19:07,811 notify the police that you were treating her? 456 00:19:07,844 --> 00:19:09,813 -No. -What were you trying to hide? 457 00:19:09,846 --> 00:19:11,748 -Objection. -Permission to treat the witness as hostile. 458 00:19:11,782 --> 00:19:13,750 -Objection. -Overruled. 459 00:19:13,784 --> 00:19:14,985 Why not come forward to anybody and say, 460 00:19:15,018 --> 00:19:17,220 "Hey, I was treating her"? 461 00:19:17,253 --> 00:19:18,722 -There's a privilege. -Which does not survive the patient's death. 462 00:19:18,755 --> 00:19:20,390 You were trying to hide the fact 463 00:19:20,423 --> 00:19:21,825 that you were treating her 464 00:19:21,858 --> 00:19:23,560 because you knew she was potentially suicidal. 465 00:19:23,594 --> 00:19:25,295 Objection! It's argumentative... 466 00:19:25,328 --> 00:19:27,497 I knew nothing of the sort. Mrs. Wallace-- 467 00:19:27,530 --> 00:19:29,499 -Your honor -- -Just like you are now. You let this man go down... 468 00:19:29,533 --> 00:19:31,301 because you were afraid of being hit with a judgment. 469 00:19:31,334 --> 00:19:34,605 All right! Mr. Donnell, dial it back. 470 00:19:37,874 --> 00:19:39,576 REPORTER: Did you tell that witness 471 00:19:39,610 --> 00:19:41,578 you would be going after him like that? 472 00:19:41,612 --> 00:19:43,246 -No. -Because... 473 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:45,949 Because I needed him, and he never would have cooperated 474 00:19:45,982 --> 00:19:47,584 knowing what he was in for. 475 00:19:47,618 --> 00:19:49,385 Why didn't you just call him as a hostile witness 476 00:19:49,419 --> 00:19:50,921 to begin with? 477 00:19:50,954 --> 00:19:53,824 Because I knew I'd get more out of him this way. 478 00:19:53,857 --> 00:19:56,392 First as an ally and then blind-siding him? 479 00:19:56,426 --> 00:19:59,295 I don't think I blind-sided him, but...yes. 480 00:19:59,329 --> 00:20:01,397 Don't you think that perpetuates 481 00:20:01,431 --> 00:20:03,567 the very distrust you spoke of before 482 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,702 between D. A. s and defense attorneys? 483 00:20:05,736 --> 00:20:07,771 My goal here isn't to repair trust. 484 00:20:07,804 --> 00:20:09,773 It's to get an acquittal. 485 00:20:09,806 --> 00:20:12,609 And you're comfortable with yourself? 486 00:20:12,643 --> 00:20:14,745 Yes. 487 00:20:15,979 --> 00:20:16,980 ELLENOR: The truth is, 488 00:20:17,013 --> 00:20:18,615 he isn't comfortable, 489 00:20:18,649 --> 00:20:22,285 and when he and Lindsay have this baby, 490 00:20:22,318 --> 00:20:24,655 it's going to be the beginning of the end 491 00:20:24,688 --> 00:20:26,657 of his criminal defense days. 492 00:20:26,690 --> 00:20:28,925 REPORTER: Why? 493 00:20:28,959 --> 00:20:32,829 Because with Bobby, this job is who he is, 494 00:20:32,863 --> 00:20:35,398 and when he starts to see himself 495 00:20:35,431 --> 00:20:40,303 through his son's eyes or his daughter's eyes, 496 00:20:40,336 --> 00:20:42,706 forget it. It's over. 497 00:20:45,576 --> 00:20:47,911 It's gone as well as we could have expected. 498 00:20:47,944 --> 00:20:50,547 That videotape is still the biggest piece of evidence, 499 00:20:50,581 --> 00:20:52,916 and you'll have to account for it. 500 00:20:52,949 --> 00:20:54,551 I understand. 501 00:20:54,585 --> 00:20:56,853 Just tell the truth, Scott. 502 00:20:56,887 --> 00:20:59,422 The truth is on our side here. 503 00:20:59,455 --> 00:21:01,457 Yeah. 504 00:21:01,491 --> 00:21:03,694 Uh, you want to go over my testimony again or... 505 00:21:03,727 --> 00:21:05,696 Actually, I prefer not to. 506 00:21:05,729 --> 00:21:08,364 I don't want it coming off rehearsed. 507 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,703 Now, Richard Bay-- 508 00:21:12,736 --> 00:21:15,438 he's going to come at you all rabid. 509 00:21:15,471 --> 00:21:16,873 That's his style. 510 00:21:16,907 --> 00:21:19,876 I can protect you, but I prefer not to. 511 00:21:19,910 --> 00:21:21,444 I can handle him. 512 00:21:21,477 --> 00:21:22,846 Lastly, 513 00:21:22,879 --> 00:21:24,848 your anger towards your wife 514 00:21:24,881 --> 00:21:26,850 for what she did to you-- 515 00:21:26,883 --> 00:21:28,852 let's play that down tomorrow. 516 00:21:28,885 --> 00:21:31,622 We don't want them seeing anger. 517 00:21:31,655 --> 00:21:33,023 Okay. 518 00:21:36,392 --> 00:21:38,629 You all right, Scott? 519 00:21:38,662 --> 00:21:40,463 I'm nervous. 520 00:21:40,496 --> 00:21:42,766 Other than that... 521 00:21:50,674 --> 00:21:53,644 REPORTER: You look scared. 522 00:21:53,677 --> 00:21:57,380 This has been a long haul. 523 00:21:57,413 --> 00:22:01,752 Have you seen any good appeal issues so far? 524 00:22:01,785 --> 00:22:04,020 No. 525 00:22:04,054 --> 00:22:06,657 That's the thing about Judge Hiller. 526 00:22:06,690 --> 00:22:09,392 Her trials don't get overturned. 527 00:22:09,425 --> 00:22:12,663 So basically if you don't win here, 528 00:22:12,696 --> 00:22:15,732 Scott Wallace is never coming out. 529 00:22:28,257 --> 00:22:29,199 REPORTER: Were you surprised 530 00:22:29,231 --> 00:22:30,614 Bobby said yes to the cameras? 531 00:22:30,647 --> 00:22:33,016 Not really. If he loses, he hopes you catch 532 00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:35,018 some prosecutorial misconduct on tape, 533 00:22:35,051 --> 00:22:36,853 give him grounds for appeal. 534 00:22:36,887 --> 00:22:38,622 What if he wins, 535 00:22:38,655 --> 00:22:41,024 and Richard Bay spots misconduct on Bobby's part? 536 00:22:41,057 --> 00:22:42,626 Doesn't matter. Double jeopardy. 537 00:22:42,659 --> 00:22:45,495 Not guilty is not guilty. 538 00:22:45,528 --> 00:22:48,532 (reporters shouting questions) 539 00:22:52,903 --> 00:22:53,970 No comment. 540 00:22:54,004 --> 00:22:55,706 Bay's got the monitors set up. 541 00:22:55,739 --> 00:22:56,740 It looks like he plans to show the tape again. 542 00:22:56,773 --> 00:22:58,141 What a shock. You tell Scott? 543 00:22:58,174 --> 00:23:00,043 He's ready. 544 00:23:00,076 --> 00:23:03,046 SCOTT: She just announced that she planned to leave me. 545 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:05,048 BOBBY: Did you see this coming? 546 00:23:05,081 --> 00:23:07,618 Not at all. We'd had our problems, 547 00:23:07,651 --> 00:23:09,620 and I knew she was unhappy, 548 00:23:09,653 --> 00:23:12,022 but I never expected her to walk out. 549 00:23:12,055 --> 00:23:14,124 Did you want to stay married? 550 00:23:14,157 --> 00:23:18,595 Yes. I asked if we could get therapy. 551 00:23:18,629 --> 00:23:20,597 She said it was too late. 552 00:23:20,631 --> 00:23:22,498 She'd already made up her mind, 553 00:23:22,533 --> 00:23:26,236 and she said that she wanted to live life without me. 554 00:23:26,269 --> 00:23:29,540 She, uh, she said it had been years 555 00:23:29,573 --> 00:23:33,644 since she felt the slightest twinge of happiness with me. 556 00:23:33,677 --> 00:23:36,046 I mean, that was how she put it-- 557 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:38,181 "the slightest twinge," 558 00:23:38,214 --> 00:23:41,084 and she said she wanted out. 559 00:23:41,117 --> 00:23:42,786 And then what happened? 560 00:23:42,819 --> 00:23:44,520 We argued. 561 00:23:44,555 --> 00:23:48,959 Uh, we engaged in some name-calling. 562 00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:51,161 Did you call her a liar? 563 00:23:51,194 --> 00:23:54,698 Among other things, yeah. 564 00:23:54,731 --> 00:23:57,067 Then I went upstairs to the bedroom, 565 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,903 got ready for bed, and watched TV. 566 00:23:59,936 --> 00:24:01,905 Your wife tells you she's leaving you, 567 00:24:01,938 --> 00:24:03,506 and you watch television? 568 00:24:03,540 --> 00:24:05,241 Well, I had hoped that when she came up 569 00:24:05,275 --> 00:24:07,510 after things calmed down a little bit, 570 00:24:07,544 --> 00:24:10,947 that I could, you know, maybe talk her out of it. 571 00:24:10,981 --> 00:24:12,515 So what happened? 572 00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:14,150 Well, I waited. 573 00:24:14,184 --> 00:24:16,152 After about an hour and a half, 574 00:24:16,186 --> 00:24:18,689 she still hadn't come up, 575 00:24:18,722 --> 00:24:21,057 so I figured she'd probably had a drink 576 00:24:21,091 --> 00:24:23,694 and decided to sleep on the couch. 577 00:24:23,727 --> 00:24:27,230 So I went down and, uh, she wasn't there. 578 00:24:27,263 --> 00:24:29,800 I thought, well, maybe she left, 579 00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:33,537 but I thought I would have heard the car pull out. 580 00:24:33,570 --> 00:24:38,241 So, uh, I went to check, 581 00:24:38,274 --> 00:24:39,876 and, uh, 582 00:24:39,910 --> 00:24:45,816 uh, when I opened the door to the garage, 583 00:24:45,849 --> 00:24:48,819 uh, I just smelled the exhaust, 584 00:24:48,852 --> 00:24:51,555 and it was all smoky in there. 585 00:24:51,588 --> 00:24:54,558 And then what? 586 00:24:54,591 --> 00:24:55,992 I went in, 587 00:24:56,026 --> 00:24:58,995 and, uh, I had to open the garage door 588 00:24:59,029 --> 00:25:01,565 because I couldn't breathe the exhaust, 589 00:25:01,598 --> 00:25:06,603 and, uh, and I saw the hose. 590 00:25:11,975 --> 00:25:13,076 Mr. Wallace? 591 00:25:13,109 --> 00:25:15,078 It was a garden hose. 592 00:25:15,111 --> 00:25:17,748 It was taped to the exhaust 593 00:25:17,781 --> 00:25:20,283 at the exhaust pipe of the car, 594 00:25:20,316 --> 00:25:23,587 and, uh, the car was running, 595 00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:28,592 and it-- the hose went into the front window. 596 00:25:28,625 --> 00:25:30,594 What did you do then? 597 00:25:30,627 --> 00:25:32,696 I ran to the car. 598 00:25:32,729 --> 00:25:35,098 I opened the door, and there she was. 599 00:25:35,131 --> 00:25:38,769 She, uh, her head was back and her eyes were closed, 600 00:25:38,802 --> 00:25:41,705 and she wasn't breathing. 601 00:25:41,738 --> 00:25:44,040 It looked like she was sleeping. 602 00:25:44,074 --> 00:25:49,613 Uh, I screamed "Karen" and I shook her. 603 00:25:49,646 --> 00:25:52,048 She wouldn't wake up, and I pulled her out. 604 00:25:52,082 --> 00:25:55,619 She fell, 605 00:25:55,652 --> 00:26:00,156 and, uh, I tried giving her mouth-to-mouth 606 00:26:00,190 --> 00:26:02,793 and chest compressions, but she wasn't breathing. 607 00:26:02,826 --> 00:26:05,629 She didn't have a pulse. 608 00:26:05,662 --> 00:26:10,066 I, uh, 609 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:14,270 kept, uh, you know, holding her nose closed 610 00:26:14,304 --> 00:26:16,907 and trying to blow air into her lungs, 611 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:19,109 but she wouldn't come back. 612 00:26:20,844 --> 00:26:23,346 She wouldn't come back. 613 00:26:23,379 --> 00:26:25,882 And when the police arrived, 614 00:26:25,916 --> 00:26:28,018 did you tell them all this? 615 00:26:28,051 --> 00:26:29,252 Yeah, yeah. 616 00:26:29,285 --> 00:26:33,657 Uh, they asked me to come to the station. 617 00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:35,659 Scott, on that videotape, 618 00:26:35,692 --> 00:26:39,930 when they accused you of killing Karen, 619 00:26:39,963 --> 00:26:43,199 why didn't you deny it? 620 00:26:43,233 --> 00:26:48,304 I don't think I could believe what I was even hearing. 621 00:26:48,338 --> 00:26:52,208 I mean, I, uh, I still couldn't believe she was dead, 622 00:26:52,242 --> 00:26:57,113 and then some district attorney was saying that I killed her? 623 00:26:57,147 --> 00:26:59,950 I remember feeling nauseous, 624 00:26:59,983 --> 00:27:02,919 like I was gonna black out. 625 00:27:02,953 --> 00:27:05,321 I'm going to give you another chance 626 00:27:05,355 --> 00:27:07,891 to answer that question. 627 00:27:10,426 --> 00:27:13,930 Did you kill your wife? 628 00:27:13,964 --> 00:27:16,432 No. 629 00:27:21,304 --> 00:27:22,873 I'm sorry. 630 00:27:22,906 --> 00:27:25,876 It's just for a-- for six months, 631 00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:29,846 you have been asking me not to speak to anyone, 632 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,314 and I never have, 633 00:27:31,347 --> 00:27:37,153 and I've waited for this day to come before everyone 634 00:27:37,187 --> 00:27:42,726 and finally say I didn't kill her. 635 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,029 I did not commit any crime. 636 00:27:51,535 --> 00:27:53,036 Thank you. 637 00:28:14,324 --> 00:28:15,926 You're an investment banker. 638 00:28:15,959 --> 00:28:17,828 Is that correct, Mr. Wallace? 639 00:28:17,861 --> 00:28:19,129 Yes, that's right. 640 00:28:19,162 --> 00:28:20,764 In the month or so 641 00:28:20,797 --> 00:28:22,766 prior to your wife's sudden death, 642 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,201 how were things going for you at work? 643 00:28:25,235 --> 00:28:27,203 It had-- it had been rough. 644 00:28:27,237 --> 00:28:29,305 The market was off. 645 00:28:29,339 --> 00:28:32,042 Had you been told you might be let go? 646 00:28:32,075 --> 00:28:34,410 Well, my firm was scaling back, yes. 647 00:28:34,444 --> 00:28:37,013 I was told that my position was tenuous. 648 00:28:37,047 --> 00:28:40,551 How about your own personal assets? 649 00:28:40,584 --> 00:28:42,553 You suffered some losses, hadn't you? 650 00:28:42,586 --> 00:28:45,021 A few, yes. 651 00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:47,023 At the time of your wife's sudden death 652 00:28:47,057 --> 00:28:48,892 you were nearly broke, weren't you, sir? 653 00:28:48,925 --> 00:28:51,161 Well, I would hardly say I was broke, Mr. Bay. 654 00:28:51,194 --> 00:28:53,063 I did live in a million-dollar house. 655 00:28:53,096 --> 00:28:54,865 Fully paid for? 656 00:28:54,898 --> 00:28:57,300 No. We had a mortgage of about $400,000. 657 00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:59,235 Any other assets? 658 00:28:59,269 --> 00:29:02,573 Uh, my savings, some stocks. 659 00:29:02,606 --> 00:29:05,308 Totaling more or less than $50,000 660 00:29:05,341 --> 00:29:08,511 at the time of your wife's sudden death? 661 00:29:08,545 --> 00:29:11,081 At the exact time, less, but stocks have a-- 662 00:29:11,114 --> 00:29:12,515 Thank you, sir. 663 00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:15,085 So at the time of your wife's sudden death, 664 00:29:15,118 --> 00:29:17,888 your assets totaled about $650,000. 665 00:29:17,921 --> 00:29:20,323 A divorce would have cut that in half. 666 00:29:20,356 --> 00:29:22,893 Add to that attorney fees plus alimony, 667 00:29:22,926 --> 00:29:24,828 plus you were looking at unemployment. 668 00:29:24,861 --> 00:29:27,530 Did you have a life insurance policy on your wife 669 00:29:27,564 --> 00:29:29,365 at the time of her sudden death? 670 00:29:29,399 --> 00:29:31,201 -Objection. -JUDGE HILLER: Overruled. 671 00:29:31,234 --> 00:29:32,936 Did you, sir? 672 00:29:32,969 --> 00:29:35,539 There were life insurance policies for both of us. 673 00:29:35,572 --> 00:29:37,541 The policy was to pay you over $1 million 674 00:29:37,574 --> 00:29:39,543 in the event of her death. Isn't that correct? 675 00:29:39,576 --> 00:29:41,612 Yes. 676 00:29:41,645 --> 00:29:44,014 When did you renew that policy, sir? 677 00:29:44,047 --> 00:29:45,381 We both renewed them-- 678 00:29:45,415 --> 00:29:48,018 When did you both renew that policy? 679 00:29:48,051 --> 00:29:50,220 Oh, I think it was around May. 680 00:29:50,253 --> 00:29:54,024 Approximately a month before her sudden death. 681 00:29:54,057 --> 00:29:57,293 Did you kill your wife for money, sir? 682 00:29:57,327 --> 00:29:58,862 No, I did not. 683 00:29:58,895 --> 00:30:01,364 Gee, you seem capable of denying it now. 684 00:30:01,397 --> 00:30:03,499 -Objection. -Sustained. 685 00:30:03,534 --> 00:30:05,135 You've got a suicidal woman on your hands. 686 00:30:05,168 --> 00:30:06,637 You get into a big fight, 687 00:30:06,670 --> 00:30:08,471 and you go upstairs and watch television? 688 00:30:08,504 --> 00:30:10,473 Well, I didn't know she was on the verge 689 00:30:10,506 --> 00:30:11,975 of taking her life, 690 00:30:12,008 --> 00:30:13,409 and, hey, I was angry that night, too. 691 00:30:13,443 --> 00:30:14,978 -Angry enough to kill her? -No. 692 00:30:15,011 --> 00:30:16,512 Angry enough to have a mental breakdown? 693 00:30:16,547 --> 00:30:19,249 Angry enough to have a mental breakdown, sir? 694 00:30:19,282 --> 00:30:21,985 Objection. Calls for a medical opinion. 695 00:30:22,018 --> 00:30:23,519 I'll put it in layman's terms. 696 00:30:23,554 --> 00:30:26,389 -Angry enough to snap? -No. 697 00:30:26,422 --> 00:30:28,391 You're about to lose your job. 698 00:30:28,424 --> 00:30:30,226 You've already lost your money. 699 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:32,062 Now you're hit with losing your wife, your house. 700 00:30:32,095 --> 00:30:33,964 You weren't going to let that happen, were you, Mr. Wallace? 701 00:30:33,997 --> 00:30:35,666 -But that's not the way it happened. -You snapped. 702 00:30:35,699 --> 00:30:38,001 -I did not. -You hit her from behind. 703 00:30:38,034 --> 00:30:40,070 -I never hit my wife. -You cracked when you knew you were caught. 704 00:30:40,103 --> 00:30:41,137 -I didn't. I did no such thing. -We saw the tape. 705 00:30:41,171 --> 00:30:42,138 I explained-- 706 00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:43,674 You killed your wife-- 707 00:30:43,707 --> 00:30:45,175 I did not! 708 00:30:50,446 --> 00:30:53,016 Are you about to get violent, Mr. Wallace? 709 00:30:53,049 --> 00:30:54,017 BOTH: Objection! 710 00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:56,086 Withdrawn. 711 00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:57,554 Nothing further. 712 00:30:59,956 --> 00:31:02,158 BOBBY: Chambers, your honor. 713 00:31:02,192 --> 00:31:03,159 It's bad faith. 714 00:31:03,193 --> 00:31:04,260 -Why? -Bad faith? 715 00:31:04,294 --> 00:31:05,495 Never, ever in the first trial 716 00:31:05,528 --> 00:31:07,030 did they suggest financial gain as motive. 717 00:31:07,063 --> 00:31:08,531 None of the police ever said it. Now suddenly-- 718 00:31:08,565 --> 00:31:09,533 So what? 719 00:31:09,566 --> 00:31:11,167 You decide on a new motive 720 00:31:11,201 --> 00:31:12,435 between the first and the second trial. 721 00:31:12,468 --> 00:31:14,104 Why can't I? 722 00:31:14,137 --> 00:31:15,939 Without any new evidence that amounts to unfair surprise. 723 00:31:15,972 --> 00:31:17,373 You got to be kidding me! 724 00:31:17,407 --> 00:31:19,209 You can't just fabricate a new motive. 725 00:31:19,242 --> 00:31:20,944 All right. Bobby, there is nothing to prevent 726 00:31:20,977 --> 00:31:22,445 the prosecution from changing strategies. 727 00:31:22,478 --> 00:31:24,047 At a minimum, it's bad faith. 728 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,949 If he truly believes that money was a motive, 729 00:31:25,982 --> 00:31:27,951 they would have argued it in the first trial. 730 00:31:27,984 --> 00:31:29,953 I didn't try the first one. Helen Gamble did. 731 00:31:29,986 --> 00:31:31,221 Oh, come on, Richard. 732 00:31:31,254 --> 00:31:32,723 What are you asking for? 733 00:31:32,756 --> 00:31:35,225 The commonwealth does not have a good faith belief 734 00:31:35,258 --> 00:31:37,227 in its motive theory, and to spring it 735 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,663 at a second trial constitutes unfair surprise, 736 00:31:39,696 --> 00:31:41,598 and I'm asking that it be stricken. 737 00:31:41,632 --> 00:31:43,734 -Forget it. -Your honor-- 738 00:31:43,767 --> 00:31:45,669 Don't even waste my time, Bobby. 739 00:31:45,702 --> 00:31:48,572 You don't know what Mr. Bay does or does not believe. 740 00:31:48,605 --> 00:31:51,642 They are not bound by the strategy of the first trial. 741 00:31:51,675 --> 00:31:53,644 REPORTER: Do you believe it-- 742 00:31:53,677 --> 00:31:55,646 that he killed her for money? 743 00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:57,648 I certainly don't know that he didn't. 744 00:31:57,681 --> 00:31:59,282 That wasn't my question. 745 00:31:59,315 --> 00:32:01,284 You're not asking a question. 746 00:32:01,317 --> 00:32:04,287 You're making an accusation, and I'm getting sick of it. 747 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,289 The idea of giving you access was to let you observe. 748 00:32:06,322 --> 00:32:08,224 It wasn't for you to charge in here with opinions. 749 00:32:08,258 --> 00:32:09,993 Was I doing that? 750 00:32:10,026 --> 00:32:12,763 Yes, you've been doing that, and I'm getting fed up. 751 00:32:12,796 --> 00:32:14,765 You want to point your damn cameras, fine, 752 00:32:14,798 --> 00:32:18,334 but enough with the judgments. 753 00:32:18,368 --> 00:32:21,572 REPORTER: What are you thinking right now? 754 00:32:21,605 --> 00:32:24,541 I'm thinking this is why you shouldn't represent people 755 00:32:24,575 --> 00:32:27,544 you feel emotionally-- 756 00:32:27,578 --> 00:32:29,445 family members, friends. 757 00:32:29,479 --> 00:32:32,015 The best legal advice you can give them 758 00:32:32,048 --> 00:32:34,017 is to hire somebody else. 759 00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:37,287 You think you've tried a bad case again? 760 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,456 I was caught off-guard with motive. 761 00:32:40,490 --> 00:32:43,459 I let the jury see me angry with a witness. 762 00:32:43,493 --> 00:32:44,761 I... 763 00:32:47,230 --> 00:32:50,200 Yeah. 764 00:32:50,233 --> 00:32:51,568 I made some mistakes. 765 00:32:51,602 --> 00:32:53,203 I don't agree. 766 00:32:53,236 --> 00:32:55,471 What do you think, Lindsay? 767 00:32:55,505 --> 00:32:58,575 I think it's pretty even, 768 00:32:58,609 --> 00:33:01,578 and ties go to the defendants in this business. 769 00:33:01,612 --> 00:33:04,480 Bobby closes a lot better than Richard Bay. 770 00:33:04,514 --> 00:33:06,216 This isn't over. 771 00:33:06,249 --> 00:33:08,484 The question I have-- 772 00:33:08,518 --> 00:33:12,756 you have a client charged with a violent, angry crime. 773 00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:16,492 You told him not to flash anger. 774 00:33:16,526 --> 00:33:18,528 What happened? 775 00:33:25,101 --> 00:33:27,170 I don't know. 776 00:33:43,687 --> 00:33:45,789 When I first became a lawyer, 777 00:33:45,822 --> 00:33:49,392 I used to call my mother and tell her about my cases. 778 00:33:49,425 --> 00:33:53,664 I'd explain all the intricacies, and she'd get bored 779 00:33:53,697 --> 00:33:56,166 and snap at me, "Just nutshell the damn thing." 780 00:33:56,199 --> 00:33:58,769 And I discovered when I did nutshell, 781 00:33:58,802 --> 00:34:01,337 most of those cases which I thought 782 00:34:01,371 --> 00:34:06,376 were so complicated were actually quite simple. 783 00:34:06,409 --> 00:34:10,246 The nutshell on this one-- 784 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,119 man in financial trouble renews insurance policy on wife. 785 00:34:16,152 --> 00:34:19,122 She announces she's leaving him. 786 00:34:19,155 --> 00:34:23,560 She's found dead with a whack on the back of the head. 787 00:34:23,594 --> 00:34:25,562 That pretty much says it all. 788 00:34:25,596 --> 00:34:30,466 In the way of proof, there's certainly a lot more. 789 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:32,836 All the DNA evidence points to him. 790 00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:35,405 Not most of it-- all. 791 00:34:35,438 --> 00:34:38,408 Her skin found under his fingernails, 792 00:34:38,441 --> 00:34:42,679 his skin cells and prints found on her head and neck. 793 00:34:42,713 --> 00:34:45,381 His admission caught right on videotape, 794 00:34:45,415 --> 00:34:49,853 his anger displayed right here on the stand. 795 00:34:49,886 --> 00:34:52,556 His own treating psychiatrist diagnosed him 796 00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:55,325 borderline psychotic. 797 00:34:56,593 --> 00:35:00,564 She didn't commit suicide. 798 00:35:00,597 --> 00:35:03,834 The psychiatrist who was treating Karen Wallace-- 799 00:35:03,867 --> 00:35:07,437 he told you she wasn't suicidal. 800 00:35:07,470 --> 00:35:11,708 This woman was murdered. 801 00:35:11,742 --> 00:35:14,444 All the evidence tells you so, 802 00:35:14,477 --> 00:35:18,849 and Scott Wallace... 803 00:35:18,882 --> 00:35:20,851 HELEN: You put her in the car 804 00:35:20,884 --> 00:35:23,587 to make it look like a suicide. 805 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:25,556 That's what happened, isn't it? 806 00:35:34,898 --> 00:35:37,601 He told you so, too. 807 00:35:37,634 --> 00:35:40,571 Didn't he? 808 00:35:53,917 --> 00:35:56,887 The only reason Scott Wallace was ever arrested 809 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,756 was that perceived admission. 810 00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:01,892 The DNA evidence, the head fracture-- 811 00:36:01,925 --> 00:36:05,395 all that came from him trying to save her. 812 00:36:05,428 --> 00:36:07,564 The prosecution's entire case 813 00:36:07,598 --> 00:36:11,635 is his reaction to being accused of the murder. 814 00:36:11,668 --> 00:36:14,370 It wasn't a normal reaction, they say. 815 00:36:14,404 --> 00:36:17,908 That's not how people normally respond. 816 00:36:17,941 --> 00:36:20,744 Have you ever been in this situation? 817 00:36:20,777 --> 00:36:22,913 Your wife die recently? 818 00:36:22,946 --> 00:36:24,681 Your husband? 819 00:36:24,715 --> 00:36:28,384 Any of you accused of murdering a spouse 820 00:36:28,418 --> 00:36:31,788 in the immediate wake of discovering the death? 821 00:36:31,822 --> 00:36:35,659 We're really going to sit here and discuss normal reactions? 822 00:36:35,692 --> 00:36:37,493 Seems to me 823 00:36:37,527 --> 00:36:40,430 a mental breakdown of some sort is the most normal. 824 00:36:40,463 --> 00:36:42,933 That's what Dr. Murphy told you Scott was experiencing. 825 00:36:42,966 --> 00:36:44,601 Scott himself told you that. 826 00:36:44,635 --> 00:36:46,703 He was feeling nauseous in that interrogation, 827 00:36:46,737 --> 00:36:48,338 about to black out. 828 00:36:48,371 --> 00:36:49,706 As Dr. Murphy said, 829 00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:53,276 he was suffering from twin positional traumas. 830 00:36:53,309 --> 00:36:56,412 How dare they charge him with murder 831 00:36:56,446 --> 00:36:58,949 because they didn't like the way he responded 832 00:36:58,982 --> 00:37:01,051 to being accused? 833 00:37:01,084 --> 00:37:04,555 They better have more than that, and they don't. 834 00:37:04,588 --> 00:37:06,690 And now-- 835 00:37:06,723 --> 00:37:08,692 now the D. A. wants you to find guilt 836 00:37:08,725 --> 00:37:11,695 because Scott Wallace got angry in the witness chair. 837 00:37:11,728 --> 00:37:15,298 You saw his rage, didn't you? Let's convict on that. 838 00:37:15,331 --> 00:37:18,434 First, they arrest him because he didn't get angry, 839 00:37:18,468 --> 00:37:21,872 and now they want you to convict because he did. 840 00:37:26,342 --> 00:37:28,712 You know, people ask me 841 00:37:28,745 --> 00:37:33,717 how I can spend my days being a criminal defense lawyer, 842 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:35,451 defending guilty people. 843 00:37:35,485 --> 00:37:38,855 Well, I am in this 844 00:37:38,889 --> 00:37:42,325 to defend the innocent ones, 845 00:37:42,358 --> 00:37:46,529 and there is an innocent one sitting right over there. 846 00:37:47,898 --> 00:37:50,400 For six months now, 847 00:37:50,433 --> 00:37:53,469 they've kept him locked up. 848 00:37:53,503 --> 00:37:56,006 He couldn't even go to her funeral. 849 00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:59,342 He's never been to her grave. 850 00:37:59,375 --> 00:38:04,480 They've taken away his life. 851 00:38:04,514 --> 00:38:07,618 Karen Wallace took her own. 852 00:38:07,651 --> 00:38:11,588 The police have taken his. 853 00:38:11,622 --> 00:38:15,058 Enough is enough. 854 00:38:17,060 --> 00:38:22,899 Give freedom back... 855 00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:27,638 to an innocent man. 856 00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:39,983 Nutshell-- 857 00:38:40,016 --> 00:38:43,053 borderline psychotic man in financial trouble 858 00:38:44,182 --> 00:38:49,291 renews insurance policy on wife a month before her death. 859 00:38:49,693 --> 00:38:51,662 She threatens to leave him. 860 00:38:51,695 --> 00:38:54,397 He's heard screaming at her. 861 00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:59,035 She's found dead with a fractured skull. 862 00:38:59,069 --> 00:39:01,404 When accused of the crime, 863 00:39:01,437 --> 00:39:05,108 he doesn't even deny it. 864 00:39:13,817 --> 00:39:17,754 REPORTER: You like Bobby Donnell, personally? 865 00:39:17,788 --> 00:39:19,890 He's a pretty good guy. 866 00:39:19,923 --> 00:39:21,892 It's one thing for two men 867 00:39:21,925 --> 00:39:23,894 looking at the same evidence 868 00:39:23,927 --> 00:39:25,629 to have different opinions, 869 00:39:25,662 --> 00:39:28,031 but you two seem so convinced 870 00:39:28,064 --> 00:39:30,934 in opposite directions. 871 00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:34,170 D.A.s come to prosecute 872 00:39:34,204 --> 00:39:37,173 those they believe to be guilty. 873 00:39:37,207 --> 00:39:39,509 Defense attorneys come to believe 874 00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:41,912 those they choose to defend. 875 00:39:41,945 --> 00:39:45,816 That certainly makes the D. A. s sound more noble. 876 00:39:47,217 --> 00:39:48,451 We are. 877 00:39:51,154 --> 00:39:53,123 REPORTER: Does he usually hibernate 878 00:39:53,156 --> 00:39:55,125 when he waits for a verdict? 879 00:39:55,158 --> 00:39:57,694 Yeah. Waiting-- it can be a killer. 880 00:39:57,728 --> 00:40:00,664 A lot of lawyers just go about other business. 881 00:40:00,697 --> 00:40:02,198 Bobby-- he can't. 882 00:40:02,232 --> 00:40:03,800 Aren't there other clients? 883 00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:06,670 Plenty, and he could be out right now 884 00:40:06,703 --> 00:40:08,204 bringing in new ones. 885 00:40:08,238 --> 00:40:09,806 Bobby Donnell-- 886 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,208 if you're looking to build a law practice, 887 00:40:12,242 --> 00:40:14,210 he's not the guy to hire. 888 00:40:14,244 --> 00:40:16,813 But if you ever get charged with murder... 889 00:40:16,847 --> 00:40:17,814 (telephone rings) 890 00:40:17,848 --> 00:40:21,217 LUCY: Hotline. Hello? 891 00:40:21,251 --> 00:40:23,687 Okay, thank you. 892 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:25,722 Jury's back. 893 00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:03,159 Mr. Wallace, would you please rise? 894 00:41:09,099 --> 00:41:10,967 The jury has reached its verdict? 895 00:41:11,001 --> 00:41:12,002 We have, your honor. 896 00:41:12,035 --> 00:41:13,704 What say you? 897 00:41:15,672 --> 00:41:18,742 Commonwealth vs. Scott Wallace, 898 00:41:18,775 --> 00:41:21,111 on count one-- murder in the first degree, 899 00:41:21,144 --> 00:41:24,280 we find the defendant Scott Wallace 900 00:41:24,314 --> 00:41:25,649 not guilty. 901 00:41:25,682 --> 00:41:28,852 (gallery murmuring) 902 00:41:28,885 --> 00:41:32,923 Count two-- murder in the second degree, 903 00:41:32,956 --> 00:41:35,125 we find the defendant Scott Wallace 904 00:41:35,158 --> 00:41:36,660 not guilty. 905 00:41:36,693 --> 00:41:38,929 (gallery reacting loudly) 906 00:41:38,962 --> 00:41:40,931 JUDGE HILLER: Members of the jury, 907 00:41:40,964 --> 00:41:42,332 this concludes your service. 908 00:41:42,365 --> 00:41:44,935 On behalf of the commonwealth, I thank you. 909 00:41:44,968 --> 00:41:47,738 Mr. Wallace, you are free to go. 910 00:41:47,771 --> 00:41:49,673 We are adjourned. 911 00:41:49,706 --> 00:41:51,174 (gavel pounds) 912 00:41:54,978 --> 00:41:57,548 SCOTT: Thank you, buddy. 913 00:42:17,701 --> 00:42:21,271 REPORTER: It wasn't as ugly as you predicted. 914 00:42:21,304 --> 00:42:23,874 No. I thought they all behaved very well. 915 00:42:23,907 --> 00:42:26,743 It was nice to see for a change. 916 00:42:26,777 --> 00:42:29,746 Do you think it was the right result? 917 00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:31,281 Probably. 918 00:42:31,314 --> 00:42:33,884 I suppose there was reasonable doubt. 919 00:42:33,917 --> 00:42:37,320 But do you think it was the right result? 920 00:42:39,189 --> 00:42:42,826 I haven't the slightest idea. 921 00:42:50,767 --> 00:42:53,770 ♪ (theme) 922 00:43:16,392 --> 00:43:18,094 You stinker! 67987

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