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[dramatic music]
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- When people think about hollywood and the movies,
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Usually, they close their eyes,
and they think of movie stars.
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But filmmaking is, by far, the most collaborative art.
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It takes a lot of people to make a movie.
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- They're good, hard,
earnest jobs,
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And there's a long line
of people for every job.
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You just have to be focused
all day, every day,
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And that's what bob was really good at.
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- In the 1980s, bob samuels was one
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Of the thousands of skilled craftspeople
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Working behind the scenes in hollywood.
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He was chasing a dream, but it was gone in a flash.
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- Bob was just a good, solid,
hard-working guy,
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So I just couldn't grasp
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Who would possibly want
to hurt bob samuels.
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♪ ♪
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- The victim was found on his stomach.
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There was a shotgun blast
to the back of the head.
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[gunshot]
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- And with no signs of robbery or burglary,
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It could be someone who had
a grudge against bob.
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- So I asked her if
she would take a polygraph.
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- The police found out
the person holding the gun
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Isn't the only killer.
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- We got a call,
and the individual
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On the other end of the phone said another body was found.
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♪ ♪
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Whoa, here we go again.
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♪ ♪
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- On December 9, 1988, as the sun sets
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Over the quiet cul-de-sacs of the san fernando valley,
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The unsettling sound of a police siren
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Pierces the twilight's serenity.
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[siren wailing]
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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- My name is terry richardson.
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I'm a retired los angeles
police detective.
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On December 9th of 1988, during the day,
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A call came in from a person
named mary ellen samuels,
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Who had found her husband,
bob samuels, dead
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On the floor inside this house in northridge.
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There was blood
around his head,
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And she said that it looked like he was shot.
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When I first arrived at the crime scene,
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There were officers standing
at the front door,
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And I do remember
seeing the wife
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And daughter of the victim
in this case standing outside.
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- Mary ellen samuels
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And her 18-year-old daughter, nicole,
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Appear to be in shock but are able
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To direct investigators to the area
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Where they found bob earlier that afternoon.
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- As I entered the front door, off to the right,
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The victim, bob samuels,
was on the floor.
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It was obvious that he was dead.
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He was in his underwear
in a prone position,
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Kind of on his side.
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- My name is john birrer.
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I was a senior homicide detective
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In the san fernando valley
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For the devonshire
detective division
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For the los angeles
police department.
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He had blood coming
out of his head
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From some kind
of shotgun blast.
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Another wound was clearly visible
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Where a weapon
or some kind of pipe
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Was used to hit the victim
on the back of the head.
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And it appeared that
he may have been walking
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Or running away
from the killer.
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- My name is thomas odle,
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And I was a homicide investigator
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For the ventura county
sheriff's department.
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There was a pillow next to the body,
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And it appeared to have acted
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As a silencer of sorts
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For the gunshot.
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We didn't find the shotgun or the shotgun casings,
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But if it's not
an automatic shotgun,
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Casings are gonna stay within the gun itself.
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- The scene raises many questions for detectives.
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Could this have been an ambush,
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And if so, how did the killer get inside?
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- My name is geoff boucher,
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And I was a crime reporter at the "los angeles times."
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There's no evidence
of forced entry into the house,
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Although there is
a sliding glass door
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That's about 6 or 8 inches open,
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So it's possible the killer could have just
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Gone through the sliding glass door
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And was lying in wait for him.
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They do a search for fingerprints,
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But there wasn't a lot there.
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And there's no indication of physical struggle
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That might have left trace
evidence of the assailant.
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And they also find $6,000 in cash in a drawer.
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- Bob's wallet and id were found.
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Nothing inside the residence
was missing.
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And so almost immediately,
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We dismissed the idea
of a burglary.
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- But with no signs of robbery,
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What would cause a person
to do this in the first place?
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So I start to think it could be someone
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That knew bob samuels
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And had a grudge
against bob samuels.
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In any crime investigation,
it's very important
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That we talk to people
that are close to the victim,
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And in this case, that would be
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Mary ellen samuels
and her daughter, nicole.
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- So I had mary ellen
transported--
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And nicole--to the station
to be interviewed.
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- Detectives quickly head to lapd's devonshire station,
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Where they hope that bob's wife and daughter
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Can provide more details about bob's life,
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Relationships, and enemies.
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- When we talked to mary ellen and nicole,
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Mary ellen wasn't crying,
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But I did think that it was because
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She was totally shocked.
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Mary ellen and nicole hadn't
heard from him in a few days,
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And so they had come by to check on him
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Around 5:00 p.M.
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- They knocked on the door, then pounded on the door,
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And eventually opened the door,
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Only to discover bob samuels
murdered on the ground.
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[dramatic music]
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Mary ellen samuels told us that she was estranged
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From her husband, bob samuels,
for approximately two years,
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And bob lived in his house by himself.
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They actually lived
near each other,
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But mary ellen lived in a condominium
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With her daughter, nicole.
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- And she said,
unlike some divorce situations,
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They had a good relationship
as friends,
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And bob worked with her,
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As far as raising her daughter.
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- They said bob was a hard worker.
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He worked for the hollywood
studios as a second cameraman.
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- He worked on
the "lethal weapon" series,
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"heaven can wait," "colors."
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He was plugged into hollywood
at a very exciting time.
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- Mary ellen and nicole said that bob wouldn't hurt a fly.
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He was always offering help
to neighbors
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And also gave money
to people to help them out.
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- They're just mystified by the whole thing,
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And they can't think of anyone that would do this.
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What would lead
to this traumatic event?
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[dramatic music]
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There's nothing in their behavior
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That shows that they have
any sort of animosity
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Toward the victim,
and they are cooperative.
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So investigators don't have any reason
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To be suspicious of them.
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[soft music]
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- Investigators release mary ellen and nicole
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And quickly begin reaching out to bob's friends,
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Hoping to uncover clues
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About who committed this grisly act.
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- My name is judy mccoy.
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Bob samuels was like a brother to me.
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I recall somebody
knocking at my door.
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It was the detectives, and they told me
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That bob had been murdered.
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It devastated me.
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I was probably 11 or 12 when I met bob samuels.
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[soft music]
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My brother and bob went to school together,
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And my family fell in love with him,
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So he became
a part of our family.
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Bob was a very loving, caring, gentle person.
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And I recall one day,
bob came to our house,
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And he was sharing
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Some of the pictures
that he had taken.
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He just was talking about the lighting
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To get this picture
just perfect,
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And he was so excited.
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And he said that's
what he wanted to do
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For the rest of his life,
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And he did.
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- My name is geary mcleod.
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I'm a director in the film industry,
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And I met bob working on "lethal weapon 2"
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In the camera department.
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Bob was really well-organized.
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He had great concentration,
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Was a really talented
camera assistant.
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And not only that,
he had character.
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- Friends tell investigators that bob was
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The shy guy growing up, and his wife, mary ellen,
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Grew up down the street from bob.
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He had a crush on her,
but he never really
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Worked up the nerve to actually
go up and ask her out,
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And life took them both
in different directions.
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He watched as she had a child, nicole,
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And he pursued
his hollywood dream.
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But in 1979, both mary ellen and bob
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Attended their high-school reunion,
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And it was there
that they reconnected,
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And six months later, they're married.
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- At the time, he was really excited
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To have mary ellen in his life,
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And he was really excited
when he got to adopt nicole.
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He loved being a dad.
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He said that nicole
and him would laugh
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And talk and have fun.
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He loved her, just like he loved mary ellen.
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- But in recent months, tensions
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Between bob and mary ellen over the couple's finances
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Had started to flare up.
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- One day, bob called me
on the phone
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And probably talked for an hour and a half that day.
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[somber music]
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He was hurting with his relationship with mary ellen.
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He told me that
he really loved her
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But that she was using
his money
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And spending it unwisely.
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Beyond all the films that he was involved in,
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They had wanted to own
a business,
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And so they opened up
a sandwich shop,
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But she would take from the company,
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So the sandwich shop was failing.
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They weren't getting along,
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And she was not taking care
of her responsibilities.
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- By the summer of 1986,
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The two had separated
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But remained on friendly terms.
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To detectives,
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The couple's money issues seemed fairly common
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And not necessarily a cause for concern,
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Until the next day,
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When they receive a call from bob's insurance company.
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- They called our office, saying mary ellen
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Had just filed for the proceeds
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Of a life insurance policy
for bob.
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[dramatic music]
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- Insurance policies totaling,
as I recall,
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Close to half a million dollars.
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- Oh, my god,
that's a lot of money.
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- Coming up...
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- We found out that
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There was a girl
that bob dated.
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- Her husband was very jealous
and very possessive.
261
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- We found out that
he owned a shotgun.
262
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- And his wife recently
had sex with the victim.
263
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If you're checking off boxes, that's a bunch of boxes.
264
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♪ ♪
265
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[gunshot]
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
268
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- 40-year-old cameraman bob samuels
269
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Has been murdered in his suburban la home.
270
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Detectives believe the attack may have been personal.
271
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And when they discover that his recently separated wife,
272
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Mary ellen, is trying to collect
273
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Half a million dollars in life insurance,
274
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Alarm bells go off.
275
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- That did get
our attention, okay,
276
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Because even though
she was very cooperative,
277
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Mary ellen definitely made out
from the death of her husband,
278
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And the insurance company wanted to just basically know
279
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Whether mary ellen was
a suspect,
280
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And we had to say no.
281
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I mean, we didn't have
enough evidence.
282
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- But now investigators,
283
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They're looking around
with suspicion.
284
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- So I asked her if
she would take a polygraph.
285
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She wanted to help,
and so almost immediately,
286
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She drove to the police station.
287
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- At the station, mary ellen
288
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Is hooked up to the polygraph machine,
289
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And detectives begin pressing her with hard questions.
290
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- We asked about
the life insurance policy.
291
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Was that involved in the murder?
292
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And she said no.
293
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We asked her if she had any
reason to kill her husband,
294
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And she said no.
295
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- Police asked mary ellen
about her whereabouts
296
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The night before,
297
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And she says she was at her condo.
298
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♪ ♪
299
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- She was very cooperative,
and she came back truthful.
300
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- While initially the hefty insurance policy
301
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Seemed suspicious, the polygraph results
302
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Convinced detectives to back off
303
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Their doubts about mary ellen.
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- Her general demeanor
seemed truthful,
305
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And we had felt that, at the time,
306
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There were a lot
of divorces out there.
307
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Just because you had a divorce,
308
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It doesn't mean mary ellen
had anything to do with it.
309
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So we were still wide open,
as far as who the suspect was.
310
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And at that point,
311
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The insurance company did pay her.
312
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They did send her a check.
313
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♪ ♪
314
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- Less than a week after the murder,
315
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Forensic reports from the crime scene come back
316
00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:21,058
But offer police little assistance.
317
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- There were prints recovered from the home,
318
00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:27,965
But most of them were either
bob's or mary ellen's.
319
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The only ones that weren't were of poor quality,
320
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And so they couldn't be
sent on to the fbi
321
00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:38,977
To identify by further means.
322
00:14:38,979 --> 00:14:40,912
- And then, two days later,
323
00:14:40,980 --> 00:14:44,716
Bob samuels' autopsy report comes back and confirms
324
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Investigators' initial hunch that the crime
325
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Was personally motivated by someone with an axe to grind.
326
00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:55,092
- During bob samuels' autopsy,
327
00:14:55,161 --> 00:14:56,694
There was evidence of a blow
328
00:14:56,762 --> 00:14:58,228
To the back of his head
329
00:14:58,298 --> 00:15:00,031
By a tubular instrument,
330
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Which they assumed was
a shotgun barrel.
331
00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:06,070
- The blow to the back of the head
332
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:09,540
Was not delivered by someone
that was smaller and shorter.
333
00:15:09,609 --> 00:15:12,043
Bob was laid low by someone that was bob's size or bigger,
334
00:15:12,111 --> 00:15:15,246
Who had the strength
to kind of put someone
335
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Down on the ground in a way
that they're incapacitated.
336
00:15:20,486 --> 00:15:24,121
And testing showed that
it was a 16-gauge shotgun
337
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Fired at very close range.
338
00:15:26,026 --> 00:15:28,859
♪ ♪
339
00:15:28,861 --> 00:15:32,262
- The pathologist determined
that the crime occurred
340
00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:34,866
At least 12 hours
before he was discovered
341
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:39,403
And found pieces of stuffing and padding from a pillow
342
00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:43,340
At the back of the head
where the shotgun blast was.
343
00:15:43,409 --> 00:15:46,878
- This confirmed
the pillow acted as a silencer
344
00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:49,480
For the gunshot.
345
00:15:49,549 --> 00:15:53,951
Based on what I saw, it just
had all the signs of a hit.
346
00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:55,553
♪ ♪
347
00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:58,856
- But there were no
defensive wounds.
348
00:15:58,858 --> 00:16:02,693
So that actually confirmed what we thought
349
00:16:02,762 --> 00:16:04,094
Out at the crime scene.
350
00:16:04,164 --> 00:16:07,064
That could mean
bob knew the suspect.
351
00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:10,801
So we weren't sure
what kind of individual
352
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,302
We were looking for.
353
00:16:12,372 --> 00:16:14,906
- But if the killer was someone bob knew
354
00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:18,376
And mary ellen was not involved, was it possible
355
00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:20,444
Bob had other personal entanglements
356
00:16:20,446 --> 00:16:22,379
That played a role?
357
00:16:22,448 --> 00:16:24,382
- When bob was going
through the divorce,
358
00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:30,120
We found out that there was
a girl that bob dated.
359
00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:32,289
- Four months earlier,
360
00:16:32,358 --> 00:16:35,059
He had mentioned to me
on the phone
361
00:16:35,128 --> 00:16:37,395
That he had been lonely.
362
00:16:37,463 --> 00:16:40,063
I introduced him to a friend of mine
363
00:16:40,065 --> 00:16:43,200
Who was very lonely too.
364
00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:45,136
And they just clicked.
365
00:16:45,204 --> 00:16:46,203
They laughed.
366
00:16:46,272 --> 00:16:48,071
They smiled a lot.
367
00:16:48,073 --> 00:16:49,841
They were both happy.
368
00:16:49,909 --> 00:16:51,342
[tense music]
369
00:16:51,411 --> 00:16:54,778
She needed a good man
in her life,
370
00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:56,814
And bob just fit that.
371
00:16:56,882 --> 00:16:58,616
- At the time,
372
00:16:58,684 --> 00:17:01,619
Bob's new girlfriend seemed too good to be true.
373
00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:04,255
But he soon found out that her life was
374
00:17:04,323 --> 00:17:06,890
More than a little complicated.
375
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,626
- I told him she was married,
376
00:17:08,694 --> 00:17:11,262
But they're, you know,
separated.
377
00:17:11,330 --> 00:17:15,266
But my girlfriend's
husband was very jealous
378
00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:17,769
And very possessive.
379
00:17:17,837 --> 00:17:21,572
So even though they were separated,
380
00:17:21,641 --> 00:17:25,376
She wouldn't be able to just
go out and have coffee with me
381
00:17:25,444 --> 00:17:28,880
Or lunch with me unless
she got permission from him.
382
00:17:28,948 --> 00:17:30,381
♪ ♪
383
00:17:30,449 --> 00:17:35,119
So when bob was murdered,
I just started to think
384
00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:36,687
Maybe it was him.
385
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:38,489
♪ ♪
386
00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:40,824
- Detectives immediately do some digging
387
00:17:40,826 --> 00:17:42,860
Into bob's girlfriend's ex-husband,
388
00:17:42,928 --> 00:17:46,130
And they're alarmed by what they find.
389
00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:49,533
- Police learn that
he's a former cop.
390
00:17:49,602 --> 00:17:53,304
- And he was known to have
domestic violence issues.
391
00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:58,242
And we found out that
he owned a shotgun or two.
392
00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:02,680
Whoa, bob was murdered
with a shotgun.
393
00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:03,681
♪ ♪
394
00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:07,151
He might be
a suspect to pursue.
395
00:18:07,220 --> 00:18:10,021
♪ ♪
396
00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:17,128
[dramatic music]
397
00:18:17,196 --> 00:18:23,167
♪ ♪
398
00:18:23,235 --> 00:18:24,635
- Two weeks after the murder
399
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:27,538
Of 40-year-old cameraman bob samuels,
400
00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,773
A new suspect has come into focus
401
00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:31,909
For los angeles investigators:
402
00:18:31,977 --> 00:18:35,913
The estranged husband of bob's new girlfriend.
403
00:18:35,981 --> 00:18:38,349
- Detectives learned that he's a former cop.
404
00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:39,717
He's got weapons.
405
00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:42,152
The weapons he's got,
they fit the scenario.
406
00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:43,721
He is a jealous guy.
407
00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:44,722
He's got a temper.
408
00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:48,559
And his wife recently
had sex with the victim.
409
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:52,930
If you're checking off boxes,
that's a bunch of boxes.
410
00:18:52,999 --> 00:18:56,300
- So we went to talk to the husband,
411
00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:59,303
And he gave us information
on his work.
412
00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:01,104
He was now a security guard,
413
00:19:01,106 --> 00:19:05,743
As a lot of unemployed
police officers become.
414
00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:10,414
So we went to a nightclub that he actually was working at.
415
00:19:10,482 --> 00:19:12,582
[tense music]
416
00:19:12,584 --> 00:19:14,818
And one of his employers say,
417
00:19:14,887 --> 00:19:18,822
"I paid this guy
his salary for the week.
418
00:19:18,891 --> 00:19:24,361
He had worked for us
the night of the murder."
419
00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:27,064
He gave me his time card, okay?
420
00:19:27,132 --> 00:19:31,468
So he was taken off
the list of suspects.
421
00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:35,472
♪ ♪
422
00:19:35,541 --> 00:19:37,107
- Three weeks after the murder,
423
00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,977
With their most likely suspect in the clear,
424
00:19:40,045 --> 00:19:43,814
Detectives are back at square one.
425
00:19:43,882 --> 00:19:46,450
As police struggle to find new leads,
426
00:19:46,452 --> 00:19:51,722
Bob's family and friends try to make sense of their loss.
427
00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:54,725
- When I went to the funeral, I stood there
428
00:19:54,794 --> 00:20:00,398
And watched as bob was being buried.
429
00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:04,434
And of course,
I was devastated.
430
00:20:04,504 --> 00:20:06,503
I just was in shock.
431
00:20:06,572 --> 00:20:10,674
I just could not believe
that bob was dead.
432
00:20:10,676 --> 00:20:14,645
I started thinking
really heavily
433
00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:16,647
Of how bob would come in,
434
00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:19,983
And he'd give me these
great big, huge bear hugs.
435
00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:22,153
I remember him saying
that he was always
436
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,988
Gonna be there for me.
437
00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:25,889
[somber music]
438
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:28,459
I lost a good friend,
a good brother.
439
00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:34,365
♪ ♪
440
00:20:34,433 --> 00:20:37,134
[dramatic music]
441
00:20:37,136 --> 00:20:38,669
- As those closest to bob
442
00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:40,838
Comfort one another in their grief,
443
00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:42,973
The continuing search for a motive
444
00:20:42,975 --> 00:20:46,177
Pushes investigators beyond bob's close circle
445
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:49,012
Of family and friends.
446
00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,382
- We wanted to interview the employees
447
00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:54,551
At the sandwich shop that was owned by mary ellen and bob
448
00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:55,652
To determine if there was
449
00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:57,355
Anything that would have given
450
00:20:57,357 --> 00:21:01,158
One of them a motive to harm bob.
451
00:21:01,227 --> 00:21:05,429
- Mary ellen provided the list
of all of her employees
452
00:21:05,498 --> 00:21:08,698
Of the shop,
but it didn't really assist
453
00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,901
On identifying any suspects.
454
00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:15,405
♪ ♪
455
00:21:15,407 --> 00:21:18,809
So we then spoke
with many of bob's friends
456
00:21:18,878 --> 00:21:21,545
In the film production
business.
457
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:24,882
- Bob was definitely plugged into hollywood.
458
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:26,283
I think it's safe to say he worked with
459
00:21:26,352 --> 00:21:28,051
A lot of really
talented people.
460
00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:30,421
- They were all shocked
to hear of the case,
461
00:21:30,489 --> 00:21:32,823
Of their friend dying.
462
00:21:32,892 --> 00:21:35,259
- I worked with bob for a long time.
463
00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:36,627
He's not a player.
464
00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,228
He's not a partier.
465
00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:40,664
He was just a quiet,
hard-working guy.
466
00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:44,735
So who would possibly want
to hurt bob samuels?
467
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:49,139
I just couldn't grasp how that could have happened.
468
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:53,143
- But as they dig deeper beneath tinseltown's topside,
469
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,313
Investigators unearth a possible motive
470
00:21:56,381 --> 00:21:58,582
No one could have seen coming.
471
00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:00,150
- They found out that
bob was involved
472
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,618
In a professional dispute,
473
00:22:01,687 --> 00:22:04,187
Kind of a contentious tax issue
474
00:22:04,257 --> 00:22:06,189
That had pitted him against
475
00:22:06,259 --> 00:22:07,991
Some of his peers
in his industry.
476
00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,726
♪ ♪
477
00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:13,297
- At the time,
there was a pervasive fantasy
478
00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:17,768
That was being promoted by
a certain member of the union
479
00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,903
That you didn't have to pay taxes
480
00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:23,206
Because dollars were
no longer backed by gold.
481
00:22:23,276 --> 00:22:25,343
It was ridiculous.
482
00:22:25,411 --> 00:22:27,778
- So the internal revenue service
483
00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:29,880
Pursued them for tax evasion.
484
00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:31,749
This was for a lot of money,
485
00:22:31,817 --> 00:22:36,119
And bob had been
willing to testify
486
00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:38,055
Against some of his buddies,
487
00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:41,124
As far as their involvement.
488
00:22:41,194 --> 00:22:43,360
- Investigators began to wonder,
489
00:22:43,428 --> 00:22:46,197
Is this the kind of thing
that could lead to violence?
490
00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:47,898
And they chase it down.
491
00:22:47,967 --> 00:22:50,500
- Could bob samuels have been killed
492
00:22:50,502 --> 00:22:52,303
By a film industry colleague
493
00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:54,305
For trying to do the right thing?
494
00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,507
- And then we find out, in fact,
495
00:22:56,575 --> 00:22:59,743
One of the suspects that
he testified against
496
00:22:59,745 --> 00:23:03,514
Eventually left the country
and was never seen again.
497
00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:06,183
- That's where the trail goes cold.
498
00:23:06,251 --> 00:23:07,885
♪ ♪
499
00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:11,688
- To me, testifying against
people over tax evasion
500
00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:13,924
Would not have been
a reason to murder someone.
501
00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:15,726
That's just not the kind of people
502
00:23:15,795 --> 00:23:17,260
That you're dealing with.
503
00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:18,428
You might get pissed.
504
00:23:18,498 --> 00:23:20,030
You might punch the guy
in the nose,
505
00:23:20,099 --> 00:23:23,434
But it's not gonna
turn into a murder.
506
00:23:23,502 --> 00:23:25,536
- Three months after bob's death,
507
00:23:25,604 --> 00:23:28,639
With no evidence to support the revenge theory,
508
00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:33,276
Investigators find themselves at yet another standstill.
509
00:23:33,278 --> 00:23:35,445
- We were running out of leads,
510
00:23:35,447 --> 00:23:37,614
And we were not happy
with the way
511
00:23:37,683 --> 00:23:39,550
The investigation was
proceeding.
512
00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:41,051
We were frustrated.
513
00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:42,853
♪ ♪
514
00:23:42,922 --> 00:23:47,491
But approximately 4-5 months
after bob's death,
515
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:50,428
The case was really
cooling off.
516
00:23:50,496 --> 00:23:53,330
But then, late in the afternoon,
517
00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,365
Evening on a Friday,
518
00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:57,634
A call came back to the homicide unit.
519
00:23:57,703 --> 00:23:59,803
[dramatic music]
520
00:23:59,805 --> 00:24:02,305
So I took the call in private,
521
00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:05,709
And the individual on the other
end of the phone said,
522
00:24:05,778 --> 00:24:08,745
"I know a lot about the robert samuels case.
523
00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:10,881
I know who did it."
524
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:13,117
♪ ♪
525
00:24:14,018 --> 00:24:19,323
[dramatic music]
526
00:24:19,391 --> 00:24:21,825
♪ ♪
527
00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:24,527
- In may of 1989,
528
00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:26,196
Six months after the murder
529
00:24:26,198 --> 00:24:29,232
Of los angeles film industry veteran bob samuels,
530
00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:32,203
Detectives receive a call that could finally
531
00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:34,104
Help them break the case.
532
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:37,941
- I was informed there was an anonymous caller on the phone,
533
00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:40,777
And he had information
identifying
534
00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:43,313
The killer of bob samuels.
535
00:24:43,382 --> 00:24:46,217
- This man says,
"I know who killed that man.
536
00:24:46,285 --> 00:24:48,352
I know who killed bob."
537
00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:53,090
The caller identifies
a man named jim bernstein
538
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:55,759
As the killer.
539
00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:57,828
- This is a new name for detectives,
540
00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:59,563
And they have no way of knowing
541
00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:02,565
Whether or not the information has any merit.
542
00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:05,436
But they're eager to follow every clue,
543
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,537
Regardless of the source.
544
00:25:07,539 --> 00:25:09,006
- When the anonymous call
545
00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:10,941
Gave us the name jim bernstein,
546
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:13,176
We looked into his criminal record,
547
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,613
And we could see that
he had some minor arrests
548
00:25:15,615 --> 00:25:18,348
For drug-related offenses.
549
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,751
- Detectives need to know if bernstein has
550
00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:24,121
Any personal connection to bob samuels,
551
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:26,923
So they circle back to those closest to bob,
552
00:25:26,925 --> 00:25:30,393
And what they learn only heightens their curiosity.
553
00:25:30,395 --> 00:25:31,729
♪ ♪
554
00:25:31,731 --> 00:25:33,464
- Investigators talk
to both mary ellen
555
00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,866
And her daughter, nicole,
556
00:25:35,935 --> 00:25:37,501
And the picture that starts to develop
557
00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:39,269
Is a very intriguing one.
558
00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:43,307
Jim bernstein is on
the periphery of bob's life.
559
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,543
Apparently, jim bernstein has been
560
00:25:45,611 --> 00:25:47,110
In a relationship with nicole.
561
00:25:47,179 --> 00:25:48,378
♪ ♪
562
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,448
So he could be very much involved
563
00:25:51,516 --> 00:25:54,385
In the dynamic of their lives.
564
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,019
- Hoping to get more details
565
00:25:56,088 --> 00:25:58,922
About jim's relationship with 18-year-old nicole,
566
00:25:58,924 --> 00:26:01,158
Detectives decide not to divulge that
567
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:04,761
He's a suspect in bob's murder.
568
00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:07,464
- The relationship
between nicole samuels
569
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:11,001
And jim bernstein appeared
to be one-sided to me.
570
00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:13,370
Jim bernstein really cared for nicole.
571
00:26:13,438 --> 00:26:16,239
- But for nicole, she knows him,
572
00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:19,009
They hang out,
but this was not a relationship
573
00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:22,046
That had been a really
meaningful one for her.
574
00:26:22,114 --> 00:26:23,847
- Nicole states that
575
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:26,450
She hasn't talked to jim for over a week,
576
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:29,853
But she readily shares his address with detectives,
577
00:26:29,855 --> 00:26:31,989
Who quickly head over to see him.
578
00:26:32,057 --> 00:26:34,525
- Police go looking for jim bernstein,
579
00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,259
And bernstein's not there.
580
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:40,097
He's gone, and they don't
really know where.
581
00:26:40,165 --> 00:26:43,100
- Detectives then head to jim's place of employment,
582
00:26:43,168 --> 00:26:46,269
Hoping to find him there.
583
00:26:46,271 --> 00:26:49,607
- Detectives went
to the employer of bernstein,
584
00:26:49,675 --> 00:26:52,175
A person named charles mandel.
585
00:26:52,244 --> 00:26:54,411
- But in talking to jim bernstein's boss,
586
00:26:54,479 --> 00:26:57,480
The police are told
jim's not been coming to work.
587
00:26:57,482 --> 00:26:58,615
"we haven't seen him.
588
00:26:58,683 --> 00:26:59,850
We don't know where he is."
589
00:26:59,918 --> 00:27:02,686
- Detectives explain to bernstein's boss that
590
00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:04,054
They're investigating
591
00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:06,489
The death of a man named bob samuels.
592
00:27:06,491 --> 00:27:10,894
That's when he surprises them with an alarming revelation.
593
00:27:10,896 --> 00:27:13,830
- This boss of jim bernstein's
responds with,
594
00:27:13,899 --> 00:27:15,866
"yes, I know that name.
595
00:27:15,934 --> 00:27:17,767
Jim used to talk about that guy."
596
00:27:17,837 --> 00:27:19,502
♪ ♪
597
00:27:19,504 --> 00:27:21,504
This is very interesting to police,
598
00:27:21,506 --> 00:27:25,008
Because what circumstance
would he be talking about bob
599
00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:27,678
To his boss in an unrelated business?
600
00:27:27,746 --> 00:27:30,981
- Mandel, he stated that jim bernstein talked to him
601
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:33,950
About the scenario that
602
00:27:34,019 --> 00:27:38,455
Bob samuels had supposedly
molested nicole,
603
00:27:38,523 --> 00:27:41,191
And he wanted something done about it.
604
00:27:41,193 --> 00:27:43,326
- The boss explains to police that
605
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:45,162
Jim bernstein has presented bob samuels
606
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:48,198
As a man that needs
to die for his sins,
607
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:50,967
And those sins are that
he is a violent person,
608
00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:53,470
That he's a predator
that needed to be dealt with.
609
00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:57,207
This speaks to potential motive
for bob's death.
610
00:27:57,275 --> 00:27:59,943
- Abuse is a serious charge,
611
00:27:59,945 --> 00:28:03,480
And it's a possible motive for jim bernstein to kill bob.
612
00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:07,084
But detectives need to find out if it's true.
613
00:28:07,152 --> 00:28:10,887
- When it was mentioned
about the possible molestation,
614
00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:15,492
Efforts were made to check the background of bob samuels.
615
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,230
It was never mentioned
by mary ellen samuels to us.
616
00:28:20,299 --> 00:28:24,234
There was no indication of any crime.
617
00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:26,002
There were no crime reports.
618
00:28:26,071 --> 00:28:28,238
It was never reported
to anybody.
619
00:28:28,307 --> 00:28:30,573
♪ ♪
620
00:28:30,575 --> 00:28:32,775
- The investigators talked to the divorce attorney
621
00:28:32,777 --> 00:28:36,246
Who was working with bob,
and not a single written word
622
00:28:36,315 --> 00:28:39,916
In the pulp that was created for this court case.
623
00:28:39,985 --> 00:28:44,387
So these accusations,
they don't really add up.
624
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:46,523
- Police want to talk to nicole directly
625
00:28:46,591 --> 00:28:50,060
About the accusations, but they hit a snag.
626
00:28:50,129 --> 00:28:51,995
- When they get to mary ellen's condo,
627
00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:54,464
She and nicole are not there.
628
00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:57,734
They're headed to cancún
on vacation.
629
00:28:57,802 --> 00:28:59,136
- Detectives are puzzled.
630
00:28:59,204 --> 00:29:01,938
Could mary ellen and nicole be avoiding them?
631
00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:03,873
Did they have something to hide?
632
00:29:03,943 --> 00:29:05,608
So they leave messages for both women,
633
00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:09,346
Urging them to call back right away
634
00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,214
And double down on their search
635
00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:14,984
For their number one suspect, jim bernstein.
636
00:29:15,054 --> 00:29:16,519
- We could not locate him,
637
00:29:16,589 --> 00:29:19,757
Which really put the flags up
right there.
638
00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:21,558
It was like a puzzle.
639
00:29:21,626 --> 00:29:25,428
We needed to locate him, because at that point,
640
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:29,132
He was the prime suspect
in this case.
641
00:29:29,201 --> 00:29:31,501
- Lapd detectives suspect
642
00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:34,204
That bernstein may be on the run.
643
00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:39,209
But then a few weeks later in early July of 1989,
644
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,545
They get a distressing call.
645
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,280
♪ ♪
646
00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:46,216
- This call is from another
law enforcement agency.
647
00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:49,786
Investigators in ventura tell
their lapd counterparts
648
00:29:49,854 --> 00:29:52,222
That some people had been along a trail,
649
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:56,627
And they found a body that had
been exposed to the elements.
650
00:29:56,695 --> 00:29:58,061
[dramatic music]
651
00:29:58,130 --> 00:29:59,763
It turns out to be
jim bernstein.
652
00:29:59,831 --> 00:30:02,132
♪ ♪
653
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,834
- The body was examined
654
00:30:03,902 --> 00:30:05,735
In the lab.
655
00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:07,670
The coroner determined the cause of death
656
00:30:07,672 --> 00:30:09,239
To be strangulation.
657
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:12,776
- Jim bernstein was
the victim of a homicide.
658
00:30:12,844 --> 00:30:13,143
♪ ♪
659
00:30:13,477 --> 00:30:22,385
[dramatic music]
660
00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:25,689
♪ ♪
661
00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:27,123
- Eight months after
662
00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:30,828
Bob samuels' brutal homicide in los angeles,
663
00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:33,696
His stepdaughter's boyfriend, jim bernstein,
664
00:30:33,698 --> 00:30:36,867
Is found murdered 50 miles away
665
00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:38,368
In ventura county.
666
00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:40,069
- The ventura
sheriff's department
667
00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:42,272
Determined he lived in los angeles,
668
00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:43,841
Where he had a criminal record.
669
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:46,209
So we contacted lapd,
670
00:30:46,211 --> 00:30:47,610
And they told us that
671
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,246
James bernstein is a possible suspect
672
00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:52,950
In the bob samuels' homicide.
673
00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:55,686
- When I heard that bernstein's body was found,
674
00:30:55,754 --> 00:30:57,821
I was really shocked.
675
00:30:57,889 --> 00:31:00,657
- Now we have two homicides, and from that point,
676
00:31:00,725 --> 00:31:02,325
We sort of worked together,
677
00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:05,428
Ventura county and our detectives.
678
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:08,431
- And we decided to go to james bernstein's apartment,
679
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,300
And when we searched the apartment,
680
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,535
We found a telephone card.
681
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:14,070
- So a phone card that's found
682
00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:16,573
Could just be
kind of a random find,
683
00:31:16,641 --> 00:31:19,209
Or it could be a key
that turns a door
684
00:31:19,277 --> 00:31:21,845
That opens up the investigation.
685
00:31:21,913 --> 00:31:24,214
- As they wait for records to come back
686
00:31:24,283 --> 00:31:27,417
On the phone card, ventura deputies embark
687
00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:29,386
On the difficult task of notifying
688
00:31:29,454 --> 00:31:32,555
Jim bernstein's family about his murder.
689
00:31:32,624 --> 00:31:36,093
And when they do, they learn striking details
690
00:31:36,095 --> 00:31:38,661
About jim's life.
691
00:31:38,731 --> 00:31:41,564
- When we made james bernstein's notification,
692
00:31:41,566 --> 00:31:43,500
His brother said that
he knew that james
693
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:46,569
Was involved in
some drug dealing.
694
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,239
And he was afraid he was
either gonna be killed
695
00:31:49,307 --> 00:31:52,509
Or arrested by the lapd.
696
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:55,412
- He told us that
jim bernstein's drug partner
697
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,580
That he was involved with
prior to his murder
698
00:31:57,582 --> 00:32:00,517
Was a person named
dave navarro.
699
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:03,386
- And when investigators reach out to navarro
700
00:32:03,455 --> 00:32:05,388
To see what he knows about the murder,
701
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:09,559
They get key answers to unresolved questions.
702
00:32:09,628 --> 00:32:11,694
- In contacting dave navarro,
703
00:32:11,764 --> 00:32:15,132
We found out that he was
the anonymous informant
704
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,735
Who indicated that
james bernstein was involved
705
00:32:18,803 --> 00:32:20,904
With the murder of bob samuels.
706
00:32:20,972 --> 00:32:22,439
♪ ♪
707
00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:24,274
- This is a revelation for investigators
708
00:32:24,342 --> 00:32:26,209
Because navarro
even tells police that,
709
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:28,178
In fact, the person holding the gun
710
00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:30,146
Isn't the only killer.
711
00:32:30,215 --> 00:32:34,016
In this case, there's another person that called the shots.
712
00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:37,788
Her name is mary ellen samuels.
713
00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:40,256
He knew mary ellen
through the relationship
714
00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:43,693
Between jim bernstein
and nicole.
715
00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:46,029
Navarro shares that mary ellen attempted
716
00:32:46,098 --> 00:32:49,232
To recruit him
as a potential assassin.
717
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,501
- But he said that
he couldn't kill him.
718
00:32:51,569 --> 00:32:55,405
So mary ellen eventually hired jim bernstein.
719
00:32:55,474 --> 00:32:58,508
He said jim bernstein
was the hitman,
720
00:32:58,577 --> 00:33:02,846
But mary ellen was behind
the murder of her husband.
721
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:05,949
- Detectives are stunned.
722
00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:10,052
Despite passing a polygraph and cooperating with police,
723
00:33:10,054 --> 00:33:12,723
Was it possible that mary ellen samuels,
724
00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:14,791
Bob's wife of eight years,
725
00:33:14,859 --> 00:33:18,728
May have been involved after all?
726
00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:21,732
- We had thought bernstein killed bob
727
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,368
Because jim bernstein
was dating nicole
728
00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:27,804
And believed that bob had abused her.
729
00:33:27,872 --> 00:33:31,541
- But dave navarro told us
that mary ellen was soliciting
730
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:34,444
People to kill her husband
because she wanted
731
00:33:34,513 --> 00:33:37,447
The money she obtained
from the insurance
732
00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:39,282
And the subway business.
733
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:42,585
And even though mary ellen
samuels took a polygraph,
734
00:33:42,654 --> 00:33:45,688
And that polygraph turned out truthful,
735
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,691
Sometimes these polygraphs are not right.
736
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:52,562
So dave navarro's story
could be truthful.
737
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:56,533
- Two weeks after jim's body was found in July 1989,
738
00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:59,502
Police have serious questions for mary ellen,
739
00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:01,972
But she's still out of town.
740
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,942
- We called the hotel in cancún
and was able to substantiate
741
00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:07,577
The fact that she was there,
742
00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:09,246
But she didn't answer the phone.
743
00:34:09,314 --> 00:34:11,614
♪ ♪
744
00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:14,717
- To detectives' relief, just two days later,
745
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,321
She returns from cancún with nicole.
746
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,724
- We you went to mary ellen's house, knocked on the door,
747
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:24,260
And told her we were
investigating a homicide
748
00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:27,396
Of james bernstein,
but she wouldn't--
749
00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:29,399
Wouldn't talk to us at all.
750
00:34:29,468 --> 00:34:32,002
And we tried to interview nicole,
751
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,370
But she wouldn't talk to us
752
00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:35,638
About james bernstein's homicide
753
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,008
Or the accusation made
against bob.
754
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:42,345
- With only witness testimony to back up their suspicions,
755
00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:44,647
Detectives need physical evidence
756
00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:48,318
Connecting mary ellen to jim bernstein.
757
00:34:48,386 --> 00:34:50,753
- When we received phone call records
758
00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:53,289
A month later from the phone card,
759
00:34:53,358 --> 00:34:56,426
We determined that james
had called several people
760
00:34:56,495 --> 00:34:59,295
On the night of bob samuels' murder,
761
00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:02,498
Mainly mary ellen samuels
and nicole.
762
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:04,767
- Since jim was dating nicole,
763
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:07,704
The call itself isn't necessarily suspicious.
764
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:09,940
Still, detectives file a court order
765
00:35:10,008 --> 00:35:12,642
To get mary ellen's financial records,
766
00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:15,045
Hoping to find a smoking gun.
767
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,380
- They go back, and they look at the payroll records
768
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,582
Of the sandwich shop owned by the samuels,
769
00:35:19,651 --> 00:35:21,451
And it's interesting.
770
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,288
There are a number of payments
made to jim bernstein.
771
00:35:25,356 --> 00:35:28,024
- It looked like james had been working part time
772
00:35:28,092 --> 00:35:30,861
At the submarine shop,
but the payments to him
773
00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:33,596
From mary ellen
could have been disguised
774
00:35:33,665 --> 00:35:35,665
As payment for employment.
775
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:38,234
- Detectives have to wonder,
is this the way that
776
00:35:38,303 --> 00:35:43,039
He was paid for his role
in the murder of bob?
777
00:35:43,107 --> 00:35:45,542
- In looking at the business records,
778
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:48,845
We also found that a check
by mary ellen samuels
779
00:35:48,913 --> 00:35:52,915
Was given to a person named
anne hambly for $6,000,
780
00:35:52,985 --> 00:35:55,351
Who was not one of their employees.
781
00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:57,487
[dramatic music]
782
00:35:57,556 --> 00:36:00,590
- We needed to talk
to as many people as possible,
783
00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:03,593
And it was learned that
anne hambly was a good friend
784
00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:06,095
Of mary ellen samuels.
785
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:09,065
- And then, as police look at phone records
786
00:36:09,133 --> 00:36:11,701
During the final days of jim bernstein's life,
787
00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:16,839
Again, they see
the name of anne hambly.
788
00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:18,841
The investigators want to know
789
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:20,510
Exactly what were these
conversations between
790
00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:23,079
Jim bernstein and anne hambly?
791
00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:25,682
- Now, in December 1989,
792
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,285
Detectives have burning questions
793
00:36:28,287 --> 00:36:30,319
That only anne can answer.
794
00:36:30,389 --> 00:36:32,388
- We needed to find out
what she knew
795
00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:34,490
About what was going on,
796
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:36,859
So we called anne hambly,
797
00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:39,129
But she didn't want to talk without her attorney.
798
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:43,666
- That tells us that maybe
we were in the right direction.
799
00:36:43,735 --> 00:36:46,169
- And then anne says
she wants to help police,
800
00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:47,237
But her attorney says
801
00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:49,005
She's gonna need
some assurances.
802
00:36:49,073 --> 00:36:53,276
- And it was agreed upon
that anne would get immunity
803
00:36:53,345 --> 00:36:56,045
For her testimony
regarding the case.
804
00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:59,281
The following day, we met with anne hambly
805
00:36:59,283 --> 00:37:02,351
And her lawyer in his office.
806
00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:05,555
She sat down and told us she knew
807
00:37:05,624 --> 00:37:08,258
How bob samuels was killed,
who killed him,
808
00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:12,395
And then how james bernstein
was killed and who killed him.
809
00:37:12,464 --> 00:37:14,965
- That could be the nail
in the coffin.
810
00:37:15,033 --> 00:37:20,370
♪ ♪
811
00:37:21,138 --> 00:37:26,343
[dramatic music]
812
00:37:26,345 --> 00:37:30,280
♪ ♪
813
00:37:30,348 --> 00:37:32,081
- In late 1989,
814
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:34,450
Bob samuels' ex-wife, mary ellen,
815
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,253
Is under suspicion for his murder,
816
00:37:37,321 --> 00:37:39,155
And her friend, anne hambly,
817
00:37:39,223 --> 00:37:41,858
Sits down with los angeles investigators
818
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:44,194
And tells them she knows exactly
819
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:48,931
How bob and jim bernstein were murdered.
820
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:51,601
- Mary ellen had told her
that she had hired
821
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:54,537
Nicole's boyfriend
to kill her husband.
822
00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:57,940
♪ ♪
823
00:37:57,942 --> 00:38:00,243
- Anne doesn't know how jim killed bob,
824
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:03,079
But investigators use the clues they've gathered
825
00:38:03,147 --> 00:38:06,682
So far to piece together what happened next.
826
00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:08,084
- The night of the crime, detectives are
827
00:38:08,152 --> 00:38:09,619
Pretty confident that jim might have been
828
00:38:09,687 --> 00:38:11,087
Lying in wait for him,
829
00:38:11,155 --> 00:38:13,723
Since the sliding glass door was open,
830
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,026
And bob was laid low by a blow
to the back of the head...
831
00:38:17,028 --> 00:38:21,364
♪ ♪
832
00:38:21,432 --> 00:38:22,765
Shot at very close range.
833
00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:23,900
[gunshot]
834
00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:25,702
♪ ♪
835
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:27,903
- But then, according to anne,
836
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:30,106
A few days after bob's murder,
837
00:38:30,174 --> 00:38:33,743
Mary ellen became paranoid about jim bernstein,
838
00:38:33,745 --> 00:38:36,512
The man she hired to kill her husband.
839
00:38:36,581 --> 00:38:37,814
- Mary ellen is determined that
840
00:38:37,882 --> 00:38:41,117
She can no longer trust that
he's gonna keep his mouth shut.
841
00:38:41,185 --> 00:38:43,753
So she tells anne that she will forgive a debt
842
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:45,922
That she owes her if anne helps her.
843
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:48,725
She asks anne,
do you know anybody
844
00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:52,095
That I could trust that can
help me kill jim bernstein?
845
00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:53,896
♪ ♪
846
00:38:53,898 --> 00:38:57,834
Anne says her boyfriend,
paul gaul.
847
00:38:57,902 --> 00:39:02,839
And paul has an associate
named darrell who can help out.
848
00:39:02,907 --> 00:39:05,842
- Then mary ellen samuels gave anne hambly
849
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:07,944
A check for $6,000.
850
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,879
That was the payment
for the murder
851
00:39:09,948 --> 00:39:14,817
Of james bernstein by paul gaul
and darrell edwards.
852
00:39:14,886 --> 00:39:17,687
- So on January 26, 1990,
853
00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:19,555
We went to mary ellen's house
854
00:39:19,624 --> 00:39:20,756
To serve the search warrant
855
00:39:20,825 --> 00:39:24,327
And the arrest warrant for her.
856
00:39:24,395 --> 00:39:25,661
Her demeanor during the arrest
857
00:39:25,730 --> 00:39:28,431
Was that she was in
total denial of anything.
858
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,066
♪ ♪
859
00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:33,035
We looked around at different places within the house.
860
00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:34,637
We found money,
861
00:39:34,706 --> 00:39:38,207
Copies of
the insurance policies.
862
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:43,946
- But then during the search,
a photo was found.
863
00:39:44,015 --> 00:39:45,915
- It was a polaroid
photograph of her
864
00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:48,584
Lying on a bed
covered in money.
865
00:39:48,586 --> 00:39:51,087
♪ ♪
866
00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:53,255
- And it was tens of thousands
of dollars
867
00:39:53,257 --> 00:39:55,425
Spread over her body.
868
00:39:55,493 --> 00:39:57,660
- When we saw that photograph,
869
00:39:57,729 --> 00:40:00,096
We knew we had
a great piece of evidence.
870
00:40:00,165 --> 00:40:02,932
- And that polaroid photo was later determined
871
00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:05,801
To be taken in cancún when she was there.
872
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:08,238
So this apparently was
the money she obtained
873
00:40:08,306 --> 00:40:10,973
From the insurance
and the murder of her husband.
874
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,609
So that callousness really shows that
875
00:40:13,678 --> 00:40:16,646
She was very evil in my mind.
876
00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:19,215
- With the mastermind in custody,
877
00:40:19,283 --> 00:40:21,817
Detectives move on to the trigger man
878
00:40:21,886 --> 00:40:23,819
In jim bernstein's murder.
879
00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:26,022
- On the same day, paul gaul was arrested
880
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,391
For the murder
of james bernstein.
881
00:40:28,459 --> 00:40:31,561
Darrell edwards was arrested several days later
882
00:40:31,629 --> 00:40:33,796
When he turned himself in.
883
00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:35,965
- After that, paul gaul and darrell edwards
884
00:40:36,033 --> 00:40:37,833
Pled guilty to second-degree murder
885
00:40:37,902 --> 00:40:40,002
In exchange
for their testimony.
886
00:40:40,071 --> 00:40:42,004
♪ ♪
887
00:40:42,073 --> 00:40:46,842
Paul gaul and darrell edwards said mary ellen hired them
888
00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:51,247
To lure james bernstein
into going with them
889
00:40:51,315 --> 00:40:55,285
To rip off a dope dealer
up in northern la county.
890
00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,420
- At some point,
they stomped on the brakes,
891
00:40:57,488 --> 00:41:01,457
Got out of the car, pulled bernstein from the car.
892
00:41:01,525 --> 00:41:03,059
Paul gaul held bernstein
893
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:06,729
While darrell edwards was strangling bernstein.
894
00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:10,199
♪ ♪
895
00:41:10,201 --> 00:41:13,035
- And now with this crucial testimony in hand,
896
00:41:13,037 --> 00:41:15,972
Detectives approach the only person left
897
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,175
Who may know something about this crime:
898
00:41:19,244 --> 00:41:21,577
Nicole samuels.
899
00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:23,613
- James was dating nicole,
900
00:41:23,681 --> 00:41:27,183
But we didn't know if he talked
to nicole about the murder.
901
00:41:27,252 --> 00:41:30,887
We had an idea that maybe she knew what was going on,
902
00:41:30,955 --> 00:41:32,622
But we couldn't prove it,
903
00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:34,624
And there was no proof found
whatsoever
904
00:41:34,692 --> 00:41:38,328
That bob was molesting nicole when she was younger.
905
00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:40,096
We tried to interview nicole,
906
00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,566
But she didn't want to talk with us.
907
00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:46,102
- And in may of 1994,
908
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:50,973
Mary ellen samuels' trial for both murder plots begins.
909
00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:53,175
- We never found the shotgun
910
00:41:53,244 --> 00:41:55,811
That was used
to kill bob samuels,
911
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,214
But the circumstantial
evidence in the case
912
00:41:58,283 --> 00:42:00,216
Was extremely strong.
913
00:42:00,284 --> 00:42:04,186
We had the fact that she collected the insurance money.
914
00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:07,089
Anne hambly testified
to the fact that
915
00:42:07,091 --> 00:42:10,726
Mary ellen was involved
in having her husband killed.
916
00:42:10,795 --> 00:42:12,461
♪ ♪
917
00:42:12,463 --> 00:42:15,831
And a polaroid photograph of her lying on a bed,
918
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:18,734
Covered in money, was extremely important
919
00:42:18,803 --> 00:42:22,438
To show mary ellen did it
strictly for greed.
920
00:42:22,506 --> 00:42:25,341
♪ ♪
921
00:42:25,409 --> 00:42:30,246
- When I saw the picture
of her covered in money,
922
00:42:30,314 --> 00:42:32,282
I was disgusted.
923
00:42:32,350 --> 00:42:35,418
You just wonder about
people capable of that.
924
00:42:35,486 --> 00:42:36,819
[somber music]
925
00:42:36,888 --> 00:42:39,421
It's beyond comprehension
for me.
926
00:42:39,423 --> 00:42:41,457
♪ ♪
927
00:42:41,525 --> 00:42:44,360
- And finally, mary ellen samuels
928
00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:47,730
Faces justice for her murderous plots.
929
00:42:47,799 --> 00:42:49,765
- Mary ellen was convicted
930
00:42:49,834 --> 00:42:52,134
And initially sentenced
to death.
931
00:42:52,203 --> 00:42:55,371
And just within the last few years,
932
00:42:55,439 --> 00:42:58,541
It was commuted
to life without parole.
933
00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:01,277
I was glad that she was found guilty.
934
00:43:01,345 --> 00:43:05,347
♪ ♪
935
00:43:05,417 --> 00:43:07,116
- The saga was over,
936
00:43:07,185 --> 00:43:09,818
But the family and friends of bob samuels
937
00:43:09,888 --> 00:43:12,922
Have to endure without him.
938
00:43:12,924 --> 00:43:16,558
- Every time I watch a movie,
I'm reminded of bob.
939
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,328
♪ ♪
940
00:43:19,331 --> 00:43:23,699
I wish I could tell bob that
I love him very, very much,
941
00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:29,105
And I miss him so much,
and I wish he was still here.
942
00:43:29,307 --> 00:43:36,079
♪ ♪
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