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On November 29th, 1947,
the 128th General Assembly
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of the United Nations
opened in New York.
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The Partition Plan for Palestine
into two states-- one Jewish,
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one Arab-- was on
the day's agenda.
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For the resolution to
pass, 2/3 of the 56
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represented countries
had to vote for it.
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Most of the Jewish
agency delegates
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had returned to
Palestine, has no one
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believed the resolution
would pass the vote.
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Abba Eban, the liaison officer
to the United Nations Committee
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on Palestine was the only
one who decided to stay.
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He believes the
situation could change.
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"We took a map of the world.
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We cut it up.
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And we went for the
delegations who were there.
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But in spite of all
our efforts, we still
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needed three to four votes.
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We only had a few hours
to change the situation.
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Telegrams went all
over the world.
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Influential people were
woken up at midnight
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for what seemed to be
impossible missions.
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Everyone used their
influence great or small
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in a desperate attempt to
tip the scales in our favor,"
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said Abba Eban.
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"We knew that France
wanted to abstain.
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I convinced Chaim Weizmann,
the head of our delegation,
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to contact Leon Blum, prime
minister of the popular front
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and deputy head of the French
government in 1937 and '38.
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They had known each
other for a while.
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He sent a telegram to Blum
which ended with these words,
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"can France abstain,
be absent at a moment
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that no one will forget and
will be forever engraved
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in human memory?"
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We will proceed the whole goal.
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You all know how to vote.
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Those who are in
favor will say yes.
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Those who are against,
you will say no.
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And the abstainers always
this, they know what to say.
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And we will start it now.
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Alarmed by the rise
of anti-Semitism
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throughout Europe, and
profoundly affected
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by the Dreyfus affair, the young
Austro-Hungarian journalist
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Theodor Herzl published
the Jewish State in 1896.
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In it, he wrote,
"if you want it,
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it doesn't have to be a dream.
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Just give us full autonomy
over a sufficient piece of land
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that would meet the
needs of our people
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and we'll take
care of the rest."
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Herzl hoped that the moment the
Jewish people had a country,
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they would be a
people like any other.
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That everyone would
treat them the same
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they treated any other people
and anti-Semitism would
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decrease a bit by bit.
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But he also wrote
that anti-Semitism
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was so deep, so
entrenched for so long
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that it was possible this
hope would never come true.
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And he could see
no other solution
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to anti-Semitism and exile
but to create a state
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and live there.
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A year later, the first
Congress of the Zionist Movement
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was held in Basel with
the goal of creating
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a home for the Jewish people.
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One of the participants
remembers the meetings
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conclusion.
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Theodor Herzl was the
secular black-bearded messiah
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who would lead us to
the promised land.
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The excitement rose to engulf
the public in the balcony.
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Throughout the room, you
could hear people shouting,
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"next year in Jerusalem."
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A year later,
Herzl went to Egypt
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for the first and last
time, then to Palestine.
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In his diary, he wrote,
"Jerusalem is magnificent.
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The city of David in the
moonlight is impressive."
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It's a marvelous country,
he describes, of course.
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Herzl describes the
country he imagined,
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a very liberal country, very
European, very sophisticated,
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with excellent relations between
their different communities
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and the different
parts of society.
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When Herzl presented his Zionist
project, all the conservative,
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reformers, orthodox, rabbis
were against Zionism.
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This was the end of the 19th,
century beginning of the 20th.
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All of them.
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They perceived it as a sin,
arguing that the diaspora was
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a divine punishment.
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And only God could allow Jewish
people to return to sacred land
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with the coming of the Messiah.
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Herzl said you must separate
religion from the state.
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We shouldn't let
the rabbis lead us.
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They should stay
in the synagogues
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but they shouldn't
tell us what to do.
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Zionism represented
the desire to be
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freed from the
shackles of religion
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and create a new human
and a new society
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in the country of Israel.
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During the 7th International
Zionist Congress in 1905,
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Palestine was chosen to
establish a Jewish homeland
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after considering
Uganda and Argentina.
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It was the first Congress after
Herzl's death a year earlier.
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One of the members,
Yitzhak Epstein,
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addressed The Tribune, "we
forgot one small detail.
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On that land we love,
there is an entire nation
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that has been living
on it for centuries
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and has never
considered leaving it.
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We are making a serious
psychological mistake."
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The president of the Union
of British synagogues
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had written to Herzl,
"I tremble at the idea
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of founding a tiny,
tiny Jewish state that
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would become a ghetto."
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let
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At the start of the
century, the population
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consisted of tens
of thousands of Jews
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and about 500,000 Arabs.
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The Jews did not work the land.
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Most of them were
altered orthodox Jews
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who lived on foreign
donations or were shopkeepers.
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They had small shops, that's it.
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It was a small community, very
religious, strong believers,
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many in Jerusalem or other
places like Hebron and Safed.
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There was no difference
between the Jews and the Arabs.
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In Jerusalem, for
example, land and houses
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were sold all the time,
and were not an issue.
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My parents who were
living in Jaffa
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had many friends amongst
Jewish population
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of mandate Palestine.
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These things at that
time were natural.
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There were not anything unusual.
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I don't think there's
any reason to deny.
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It's obvious that Jews
have lived on this land
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and that they had a culture here
that they had their roots here.
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The pogroms in Russia
increased the massive migration
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of Jewish people, especially
to the United States.
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A handful of young Zionist
students from Ukraine
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decided to settle in Palestine.
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One group arrived, bought
land in Rishon LeZion
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and stayed there.
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One of the strangest things
is that the Jews have
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said from the start
that this is their land,
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and the Arabs heard that.
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In fact, the moment the
first Jew came here,
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the Arab-Jewish conflict began.
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From that viewpoint,
the seeds of conflict
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were there right from the start.
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Young idealists came
to farm the land.
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They tell themselves they would
create an ideal settlement
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in Israel.
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We have texts from
1987-1908 that state
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this situation is
an enormous project
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to oust us from our own land.
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The working conditions
in this land,
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in places where they were
far from everything led them
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to create a way of living
where everything was shared.
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And that way of living then
led to the kibbutz concept.
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The first kibbutz, a
collectivist village,
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was established in
Palestine in 1909.
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The founders were young
idealists from Europe
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who wanted to create a new state
by finding a new way of life.
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My grandfather worked in the
mud to help dry up the marshes.
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My grandmother broke
rocks with a hammer.
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They lived under a
tent for five years.
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The rest of the world considered
Palestine to be an abandoned,
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entirely uninhabited territory.
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It was a desolate country
filled with deserts and marshes.
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You know that famous
saying, the bride
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was beautiful but
was already married,
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but they just couldn't bring
themselves to admit that.
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So they invented a slogan
to justify and legitimize
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the project of their
foreign community arriving
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to settle in the local
population's homeland.
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And they told the whole world
the famous slogan of a land
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without people for a
people without a land.
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It was the worst life.
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They claimed they transformed
this land into a paradise.
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You know, it was totally desert.
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It's a good thing we showed up.
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That story of a desert land
dates from the 19th century.
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It dates from the time the
European powers started
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to describe the sacred land
as a devastated land that
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had to be brought back
to life at any cost.
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The Muslims weren't mistrustful
before the Zionists arrived.
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They never imagined that one day
this relationship between Jews
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and Arabs would change into
something that the Palestinians
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would pay so dearly.
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Jewish settlement is partly
responsible for deteriorating
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relations between
Arabs and Jews,
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given that the
settlement had decided it
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wouldn't use local Arab labor.
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Under the impetus of
the Zionist movement,
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more and more Jewish people
bought land in Palestine.
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Between 1908 and 1913, 11 new
Jewish colonies were created.
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During this period,
the first Zions
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of Arab opposition to the
Zionist movement appeared.
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Some Arabs protested against the
sale of lands to Jewish people.
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All the Palestinian
Arabs sell property
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to the Jewish arrivals.
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There are deeds of sale.
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Our relationship changed.
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People started to sense that
there was a problem here.
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How could an Arab live
in peace with someone
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who comes and first
of all buys land
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but wants to create
a Jewish country?
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Not Arab and Jewish,
but a Jewish country.
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Tensions rose bit by bit
with the waves of immigration
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when the Arabs sensed
that the country was
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slipping from their hands.
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World War I would upset
geography in the Middle East.
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On the loser's side,
the Ottoman Empire
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was dismantled by
peace treaties.
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With the exception
of Turkey, Asia Minor
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was now managed
by Western powers.
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The Sykes-Picot
secret agreement,
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signed between France
and Great Britain,
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assigned Palestine
to the British.
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The British were
responsible for making
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it possible for the Israeli,
for the Jewish people
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to have a state
in Palestine, not
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to speak of Balfour
Declaration in which it also
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promised the land to the Jews.
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To guarantee a Western presence
in the area, in November 1917,
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British Minister for Foreign
Affairs Arthur James Balfour
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wrote an open letter the Lord
Lionel Walter Rothschild,
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one of the Zionist
Movement's leaders.
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He wrote, "His Majesty's
government view with favor
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the establishment in
Palestine of a national home
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for the Jewish people and
will use their best endeavors
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to facilitate the
achievement of this object,
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it being clearly understood
that nothing shall be done which
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may prejudice the civil and
religious rights of existing
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non-Jewish communities
in Palestine."
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The Balfour Declaration of
1917 was the declaration
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of a colonialist offering
someone else a gift that
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did not belong to them.
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In 1917, just when the British
government adopted the Zionist
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project in order to create a
national country for the Jews
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in Palestine,
Palestinians represented
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98% of the population.
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The most reliable
figure was from 1919
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when the English took
possession of this area.
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For the first time, they
conducted a very serious
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population census.
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In 1919, there were 700,000
Arabs and 70,000 Jews.
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Right from the
start, the British
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were sharply aware that in
order to stay a long time
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they had to divide this up.
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The first act the division
was absolutely perverse.
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In the first census,
they created categories
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that didn't even exist.
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They created a Jewish
category and they
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created an Arab category.
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And it was always that.
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In other words, let's
make them fight each other
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and we will always
be the referee.
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With the rise of
Arab nationalism,
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the first anti-Jewish
protests started
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in March, April
1920 in Jerusalem,
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then May 1921 in
Jaffa and Tel Aviv.
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Over 50 people were killed.
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Minister of Colonies
Winston Churchill
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investigated the events.
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Early in 1922, he
published a white paper
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to clarify the British
stance on Palestine.
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In July 1922, the
League of Nations
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gave Britain a mandate
to prepare the creation
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of a National Jewish home.
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Between 1924 and 1928, more
than 60,000 Jewish people
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arrived in Palestine.
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On August the 20th,
1929, protests
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broke out between Jews
and Muslims over access
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to the Wailing
Wall in Jerusalem.
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Two days later,
rumors circulated
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about an imminent Jewish
attack on the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
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Arab attacks
against Jews started
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in the old city of
Jerusalem before spreading
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throughout Palestine.
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67 Jews, including women and
children were killed in Hebron.
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Other massacres
took place in Safed
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where 18 Jews were killed.
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During a week of protests,
133 Jews were killed by Arabs.
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A British report
claimed, "these protests
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are local expressions of
animosity and hostility
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by Arabs against Jews
because of the Arab's
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frustrated political
and national hopes.
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The Nazi party rose
to power in 1933
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and started with the
persecution of Jews
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in Germany, then in Austria.
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In 1933, Adolf Hitler and his
Minister of Propaganda Joseph
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Goebbels organized the
boycott of all businesses
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owned by Jews.
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The Jewish Agency
signed an agreement
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with the Third Reich
minister of economy,
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which allowed German Jews
to emigrate to Palestine,
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provided they abandon
most of their possessions
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before leaving.
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The arrival of over
30,000 immigrants
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gave the economy a fresh boost.
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The immigrants were
intellectuals, scientists,
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architects, and artists.
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Many companies were started.
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The population of Tel
Aviv founded in 1909
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tripled and now counted
150,000 inhabitants.
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The beaches and fashionable
places were crowded.
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"Yesterday, a new
elegant cafe opened
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on the corner of Allenby
and Bialik Streets,
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worthy of the great European
capitals," wrote the magazine
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Haaretz.
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In 1935, David
Ben-Gurion was elected
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president of the Jewish Agency.
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He had arrived in
Palestine in 1906
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when he was 20, from a
small town close to Warsaw,
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to participate in
creating the new state.
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He wanted a country
for Jews immediately.
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His friends understood that
it was going to take time.
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In the same year,
he was named head
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of the Haganah, the armed
group for the defense
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of Palestinian Jews
forbidden by the British.
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In April 1936, the Arabs
called for a general strike
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throughout the country
and demanded an end
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to immigration and the
sale of land to Jews.
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The Palestinian Arab
opposition culminated
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in the great revolt of 1936,
protesting against both Zionism
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and the British
presence in Palestine.
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Casualties from the
riots were very high.
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Several hundred Arabs
were killed by the British
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and over 300 Jews also died.
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The Arab high committee
convened in October
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under the general leadership
of Amin al-Husseini,
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grand mufti of Jerusalem.
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The mufti was the leader
of the Palestinian people.
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He was a horrible man whose
nationalism was pro-Nazi.
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Not just because the Nazis
were the enemies of the British
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and the Jews, but also
because he sympathized
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with the Nazi ideology.
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It was total blindness.
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The mufti's mad idea of throwing
himself into Hitler's arms
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in Berlin.
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00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:05,100
The mufti went to
Berlin and attempted
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to create SS divisions,
Muslim SS soldiers.
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He wanted to create a
unit with the German Army
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to come to Palestine and
fight the Jews there.
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00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:21,990
The mufti didn't really have
any authority in Germany.
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Hitler didn't care
about the mufti,
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00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:26,580
but he linked up with Eichmann.
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00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:37,260
Eichmann, early on in 1936,
directed the Jewish department
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00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:43,840
of the Gestapo in the
SS and he was sent here
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to learn about the enemy.
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In other words, to learn
Hebrew, the traditions,
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and then return to Germany and
know what he was confronting,
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00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,090
so as to take care of it.
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00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:12,930
They were obsessed with learning
exactly what a Jew really was.
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00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:16,080
Eichmann and the mufti met
together several times.
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Eichmann spoke of it and the
mufti wrote it in his memoirs.
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They had a common goal--
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to get rid of the Jews.
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For a long time afterwards,
we paid the price
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for the mufti of Jerusalem's
crazy sidetracking.
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The historian Hagai
Horowitz would
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00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:40,290
write, "when the grand mufti
of Jerusalem met with Hitler,
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it was a sign that the National
Arab Movement's objectives had
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changed.
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For the first time, everyone
was aware of the danger
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that threatened our existence.
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It was no longer imaginary.
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It was the blow that changed
the nature of the conflict
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00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:58,110
and our combat strategy."
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While Nazis proclaimed the
Nuremberg laws and the lives
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00:21:00,750 --> 00:21:03,190
of millions of Jews were
threatened in Europe,
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the British blocked immigration
routes to Palestine.
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For those who wanted
to flee the Reich,
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there weren't many
alternative choices
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00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,660
because other nations were
also closing their doors
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to Jewish people.
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00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,160
This was notably the case
with the United States
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where immigration
quotas set by Congress
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radically reduced the
number of refugees
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from Germany and Austria.
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In July 1938, the
Evian conference
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convened to discuss how
to help the German Jews
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but closed without
reaching its objective.
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None of the 32
countries present would
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agree to open their
borders to persecuted Jews.
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As war with Germany
loomed, the British
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organized the St. James
conference in February 1939,
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hoping to avoid an
Arab-Axis alliance.
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The conference brought
Jews and Arabs together
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for the first time
but the Arab delegates
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refused to sit with the
Jewish Agency representatives.
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The British considered Palestine
more than ever a ticking time
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bomb.
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00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:02,310
They published the White Paper
with policies considerably
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00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:04,260
limiting the number
of new immigrants
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00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:05,850
and resolutely
confirming that they
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00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:08,420
had no intention of creating
a Jewish state in Palestine.
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Adolf Hitler had
just invaded Poland.
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World War II had just begun.
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Palestine lived in constant
threat of an invasion
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00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:30,000
by Rommel's German forces who
were on the African continent.
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00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,390
Ben-Gurion declared, "we will
help the British in the war
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as if there had not
been a White Paper.
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00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:37,590
And we will fight
against the White Paper
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00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:40,660
as if there is no war."
400
00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:43,380
The general staffs of the
Haganah and the British Army
401
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agreed to create a
force made up of Jews
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00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:47,940
in the British Army,
whose mission would
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00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:49,370
be to fight the Nazi forces.
404
00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:56,290
As a child, my father
spoke four languages
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00:22:56,290 --> 00:23:00,880
and had a very well-developed
political conscience.
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00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,520
His mother died just after
the 1939 Nazi invasion.
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00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,790
He then convinced his father
that there was no other place
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00:23:08,790 --> 00:23:11,310
for Jews except Israel.
409
00:23:11,310 --> 00:23:13,260
For four months, they
traveled in a boat
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00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:15,940
filled with illegal travelers.
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00:23:15,940 --> 00:23:18,390
On board a boat that no
country would allow it
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to dock at its ports--
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00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:21,870
neither the English,
nor Churchill,
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00:23:21,870 --> 00:23:25,830
nor Roosevelt's America, nor
any country in the world.
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00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:28,680
A small 12-year-old Jewish child
would have nothing but the sea
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beneath his feet.
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00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:35,160
Finally, they arrived here
and the English arrested them.
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00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,080
People continue to arrive
here, several thousand people.
419
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,300
And everyone told stories.
420
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:45,690
We thought the ghettos had
been the worst possible thing
421
00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:48,270
but we started to receive
alarming information out
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00:23:48,270 --> 00:23:49,630
of Poland.
423
00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:52,020
Hard tragic news
started to come in,
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serial murders in many places.
425
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,290
They didn't believe it.
426
00:23:58,290 --> 00:24:01,410
People at first could
not even conceive of it.
427
00:24:01,410 --> 00:24:04,530
They thought of the programs
and of anti-Semitism.
428
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,460
It seemed to be so horrible that
it could not possibly be true.
429
00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,920
And bit by bit at
year's end, we started
430
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,960
to get a harsh image of the
events with appalling methods.
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00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,270
People buried alive, parents
forced to bury their children.
432
00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:26,120
And of course,
gunshot executions
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00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,120
in front of the ditches.
434
00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:35,580
In 1942, a telegram
arrived here saying
435
00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:38,250
that Himmler had decided
to kill by the end
436
00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:42,120
of the year between 3.5
and 4 million people
437
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,600
in suitable locations with a
gas called hydrogen cyanide.
438
00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:52,140
That telegram
seems so improbable
439
00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:53,350
that it remained in a drawer.
440
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:57,350
A first group
arrived and traveled
441
00:24:57,350 --> 00:25:00,030
around saying, "that's
what's happening.
442
00:25:00,030 --> 00:25:00,620
It's all true.
443
00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:02,150
It's terrible."
444
00:25:02,150 --> 00:25:03,680
They're doing it methodically.
445
00:25:06,410 --> 00:25:08,930
How could you hear such a
thing when your entire family
446
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:10,280
was living in Europe?
447
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,430
It meant they had no more
family, no more community.
448
00:25:16,730 --> 00:25:19,490
World War II ended,
but the allied victory
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00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:22,670
over Nazi Germany would
not affect British policy.
450
00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:24,860
London still refused
to allow escapees
451
00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:26,840
to emigrate to Palestine.
452
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,050
At the same time, 100,000
European Jewish survivors
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00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:31,040
had nowhere to go.
454
00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,150
A third of the worldwide
Jewish population
455
00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:39,080
had been assassinated in the
gas chambers and in Nazi camps.
456
00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:47,770
It proved that the
Zionists were right.
457
00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:50,850
A people without a
country is a people
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00:25:50,850 --> 00:25:56,700
that is led like beasts
to the slaughterhouse,
459
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,100
but also because the
Holocaust survivors had
460
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,090
nowhere else to go.
461
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:09,600
There were so many Jews
looking for a place to settle.
462
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Doors to the United States
were closed and locked
463
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,220
so even if the Holocaust
hadn't happened,
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00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,180
Jews would have come here you
and in increasing numbers.
465
00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:29,680
Panama sent me to Europe
after the Holocaust.
466
00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:35,970
And I met those
who had survived,
467
00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:39,000
the remaining European Jews.
468
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,350
It was an enormous shock for
me when I arrived over there.
469
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:47,190
One day, I joined
some young adolescents
470
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:52,980
who wanted to emigrate covertly,
going through Italy and France.
471
00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:54,660
It was snowing.
472
00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:56,670
It was cold.
473
00:26:56,670 --> 00:26:59,490
I lived with them
for an entire week.
474
00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:04,350
Every night, one of them
would start screaming.
475
00:27:04,350 --> 00:27:07,320
They all had nightmares.
476
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,980
It was such a shock,
a terrible shock.
477
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:24,630
It will stay with me
for the rest of my life.
478
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:28,680
After the war, many survivors
were distraught, disoriented.
479
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,410
In fact, most of them
were because of how
480
00:27:31,410 --> 00:27:33,720
they had suffered
terribly and the feeling
481
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,810
they were now
alone in the world.
482
00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:39,390
People were experiencing
such terrible trauma
483
00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:43,410
that no one was able to speak,
no one could say what happened.
484
00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:47,100
Most of these people had
lost their entire family.
485
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,890
When we met a family with
two sets of grandparents,
486
00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,770
we asked ourselves,
how is this possible?
487
00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:55,140
It sounded like the tales
you would read in books.
488
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,670
It could not possibly be true.
489
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,710
I was born in September '46 in a
Jewish refugee camp in Austria,
490
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:06,540
near the city of Linz.
491
00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:10,380
The first two years of my life,
I spent them in those camps.
492
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:13,190
I grew up there.
493
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:17,090
From 1945, Jews who had escaped
from concentration camps
494
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:20,270
were herded into DP camps,
Displaced Persons camps,
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00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:22,040
in Germany and Austria.
496
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,160
Surrounded by barbed wire
fences, treated in sensitively
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00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,370
by allied soldiers, they did not
want to return to the countries
498
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:30,710
where their families
had been assassinated.
499
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:33,650
An American high official
reported to President Truman,
500
00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:36,110
"the situation now is that
we are treating the Jews
501
00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:39,260
like the Nazis did, except that
we are not exterminating them."
502
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880
The war was over but
the Holocaust was not.
503
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,320
Because when the Jews started
to return to Poland, Lithuania,
504
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,470
Slovakia, Hungary, Romania,
to go back to their homes,
505
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:56,160
they found they had been
occupied by other people
506
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,690
and they were killed.
507
00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:59,880
In Poland alone,
about 2,000 Jews
508
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,330
were killed between
1945 and 1946.
509
00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:05,730
People always refer
to the Iasi Pogrom
510
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:07,740
but it was only one
pogrom among many.
511
00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:19,200
We left Poland in the summer
of 1946 after the Iasi Pogrom.
512
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,330
We could have gone
to the United States
513
00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:23,250
but my mother said
after the Holocaust
514
00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:27,090
we should go where
Jews were living.
515
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:29,640
We arrived on a Greek
boat without authorization
516
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,950
from the British government.
517
00:29:31,950 --> 00:29:34,580
We have been given fake papers.
518
00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:38,310
On the day we arrived,
there was a curfew.
519
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,460
My mother said, "help,
where have we landed?
520
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:42,990
What kind of a place is this?"
521
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,130
With Operation
Igloo, the British
522
00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:53,830
transported all the Jews trying
to reach Palestine to Cyprus.
523
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:56,530
In their personal notes, they
referred to this deportation
524
00:29:56,530 --> 00:29:59,530
more sensitively as
transferring and moving
525
00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:01,910
to avoid alluding to
previous concentration camp
526
00:30:01,910 --> 00:30:02,460
deportations.
527
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,950
As soon as the boats filled
with refugees arrived
528
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:15,590
in the port of Haifa, the
waiting British forces
529
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:19,110
evacuated them and transferred
them to Cyprus in cage boats.
530
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:29,870
More than 50,000 Jews would
go through these barbed wire
531
00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:33,590
enclosed camps guarded
by armed military men.
532
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:36,230
Most were Holocaust survivors.
533
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:40,370
Philosopher Hannah Arendt wrote,
"the internment camps in Cyprus
534
00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:42,950
were only possible because
the entire world thought
535
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:44,720
it more humane than Auschwitz."
536
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,160
If we look closely at all the
decisions Great Britain made
537
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,690
when they started blocking
Jewish immigration,
538
00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:58,500
it wasn't because of
fundamental political changes.
539
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:03,330
It was because they knew
they were being ousted.
540
00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:08,260
In June 1946, the English
began operation Agatha.
541
00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,060
During a search,
they found documents
542
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:13,960
proving that the Jewish Agency
supported acts of sabotage.
543
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,060
They decided to hit hard.
544
00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:18,980
2,700 people were arrested.
545
00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:22,330
It was a heavy blow
for the Zionists.
546
00:31:22,330 --> 00:31:24,520
One month later,
the men of Lehi,
547
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,790
a Jewish paramilitary group,
blew up the King David Hotel
548
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:32,830
British Headquarters,
killing 91 people.
549
00:31:32,830 --> 00:31:35,290
Paradoxically, this
universally condemned
550
00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:39,760
act would move events along
and play in the Zionists favor.
551
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,980
The British understood
they would soon no longer
552
00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:44,530
be able to control Jewish
organizations, which were
553
00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:46,270
increasingly better structured.
554
00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:50,340
Great Britain finally
chose to retreat.
555
00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:54,880
Bit by bit, the confrontations
increased, up to 1947,
556
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,190
when the situation
completely degenerated.
557
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,350
Upon British
request, the UN named
558
00:32:02,350 --> 00:32:06,820
an international investigation
commission in April 1947.
559
00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:08,740
The final report
recommended creating
560
00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:11,290
a Jewish and an Arab state.
561
00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:13,540
Surprised by this
decision, Great Britain
562
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,590
refused this
suggestion of sharing,
563
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:18,610
declared it would abandon
its rule in six-month's time.
564
00:32:23,380 --> 00:32:27,040
There was no doubt the Holocaust
had influenced a large part
565
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,620
of United Nation's members.
566
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:35,770
And that the UN mission
that came here and saw
567
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:38,560
the Jewish refugee
camps in Europe
568
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,530
decided after all
that had happened
569
00:32:42,530 --> 00:32:43,990
the Jews should be
given a country.
570
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,630
What the Palestinian
leadership didn't see in 1948
571
00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:56,260
was that the Holocaust
had taken place
572
00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:59,320
and that the whole world was
convinced that the victims
573
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,250
deserved reparation.
574
00:33:01,250 --> 00:33:04,690
And that fundamental
reparation for the victim
575
00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:07,000
was the emergence
of a Jewish state.
576
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,460
And that this was the
only adequate solution
577
00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:12,610
to the Nazi barbarism.
578
00:33:12,610 --> 00:33:14,170
While the commission
was working,
579
00:33:14,170 --> 00:33:17,050
Mossad would attempt to force
the British to open Palestine
580
00:33:17,050 --> 00:33:19,990
ports to Jews.
581
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:25,460
It chartered an old boat named
Exodus 1947 for the operation.
582
00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:27,140
The boat arrived
outside of Haifa
583
00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:31,580
with 4,500 Jewish immigrants
from central Europe.
584
00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:35,030
Most of the passengers were
Nazi death camp survivors.
585
00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:37,880
Rather than stagnate in
displaced persons camps,
586
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,310
they had opted to join the
network of clandestine trips
587
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:42,740
to Palestine.
588
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:45,920
They thought they could finally
set foot on the promised land,
589
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,010
but the Royal Navy boarded
and searched the vessel.
590
00:33:49,010 --> 00:33:51,410
In the confusion, three
passengers were killed
591
00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:54,350
and a hundred others wounded.
592
00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:58,040
There were terrible clashes
during the entire journey.
593
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,590
We were expelled from
Haifa, and then sent back
594
00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:02,900
to France, then Hamburg.
595
00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:08,830
This act shook world opinion.
596
00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:11,530
The British had to compromise
with international opinion that
597
00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:13,660
favored resolving
the Jewish problem
598
00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:14,860
as peacefully as possible.
599
00:34:17,830 --> 00:34:22,510
At the UN, delegations got ready
to vote for Palestine's future.
600
00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:24,970
David Ben-Gurion listened
to the first results
601
00:34:24,970 --> 00:34:26,980
on the radio with
Eleanor Roosevelt--
602
00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:30,550
the former president's
widow beside him.
603
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:32,920
She had been influential
in engaging the United
604
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,010
States in World War II
and played a decisive role
605
00:34:36,010 --> 00:34:39,250
in creating the United Nations.
606
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,620
France remained quiet
about its intentions.
607
00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:45,040
But Leon Blum, moved by
Chaim Weizmann's telegram
608
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,190
promised to use
all his influence.
609
00:34:48,190 --> 00:34:51,280
President Truman pressured
reluctant state representatives
610
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,460
to vote in favor of partition.
611
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,820
In return, the Philippines
and Haiti would receive loans.
612
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:04,750
The majority were to vote
against the partition plan,
613
00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:07,690
but the Americans used
Thanksgiving as a pretext
614
00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:09,820
to postpone the vote.
615
00:35:09,820 --> 00:35:13,600
They then came back with the
support of two small countries,
616
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,720
we couldn't even
pinpoint on the world
617
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,070
map, which the
Americans had swayed
618
00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:20,170
during their national holiday.
619
00:35:20,170 --> 00:35:21,420
And the majority vote changed.
620
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:27,650
The Soviet minister for
foreign affairs Andrei Gromyko
621
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:30,520
surprised the Western world
with an unexpected pro-Zionist
622
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,020
speech.
623
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:36,850
During the last war,
the Jewish people
624
00:35:36,850 --> 00:35:40,270
underwent incredible suffering.
625
00:35:40,270 --> 00:35:44,020
This explains why the Jews want
to establish their own state.
626
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:48,400
And it would be unjust to
refuse them that right.
627
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160
Andrei Gromyko made a speech
in which he presented himself
628
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,630
as a Zionist.
629
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:55,360
For years, they pursued Zionists
and locked them up in Gulags.
630
00:35:58,030 --> 00:36:02,080
Gromyko's speech had nothing
to do with what was happening.
631
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,750
Soviet diplomacy has
never had a reputation
632
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:06,730
for being sentimental.
633
00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:08,890
Everything boils
down to interests.
634
00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:11,110
The Soviet Union wanted
to replace the British
635
00:36:11,110 --> 00:36:12,310
in the Middle East.
636
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:14,140
It knew that the English
would be forced out
637
00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:16,660
and wanted to be the first
before the United States could
638
00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:17,800
steal their place.
639
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,980
Soviet Union, yes.
640
00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:25,280
United Kingdom, abstain.
641
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,440
France, yes.
642
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,930
The resolution of the
Committee for Palestine
643
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:38,890
was adopted by 33 votes,
13 against, 10 abstentions.
644
00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:50,200
[APPLAUSE]
645
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,500
The majority vote we got during
the decision on partition
646
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:58,830
in November 1947, we
never could have got it.
647
00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:02,500
And even then, it wasn't simple.
648
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,020
It is said that the United
Nation's decision ensued
649
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:07,060
because the Westerners
had a guilty conscience
650
00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:08,380
about the Holocaust.
651
00:37:08,380 --> 00:37:11,050
Excuse me, but where was
your conscience before that?
652
00:37:11,050 --> 00:37:14,920
All of a sudden, they
had a guilty conscience.
653
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,100
It's one of the country's
great paradoxes.
654
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,040
It was founded after the
worst tragedy in the history
655
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,370
of the Jewish people.
656
00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:26,950
The UN resolution proposed
dividing Palestine
657
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:28,060
into two states--
658
00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:29,980
one Jewish, and the other Arab--
659
00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:32,830
with Jerusalem under
international control.
660
00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:35,500
But most Palestinian Arabs
and all the Arab states
661
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:38,690
rejected this plan and
any division of Palestine.
662
00:37:41,850 --> 00:37:43,860
Did the Palestinians
make a mistake
663
00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:45,900
by not accepting partition?
664
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,390
Does that suggest how
fanatic they were practically
665
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:49,040
from birth?
666
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,830
Opposing the UN vote on
partitioning Palestine
667
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:59,520
was a mistake for the Arabs.
668
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,350
Without a doubt,
in retrospect, we
669
00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:04,320
can say today that it was
a mistake and not just what
670
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,960
had happened in 1947.
671
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,030
From their viewpoint,
it wasn't a mistake.
672
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:11,410
They weren't at all ready
to accept a Jewish country.
673
00:38:11,410 --> 00:38:13,020
To live next to
a Jewish country?
674
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,600
Certainly not.
675
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,360
All of Israel's attempts
to split into two countries
676
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,550
failed because of
the Palestinians.
677
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,410
They simply didn't see
why they should give up
678
00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:27,870
half of their homeland.
679
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:29,440
They couldn't comprehend it.
680
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,940
Why?
681
00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:35,850
If the Arabs had said
yes at that moment,
682
00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:37,560
would things really
have been headed
683
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,580
towards a better
situation or not?
684
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:44,310
Would the Israelis or the
Jews have really accepted
685
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:44,990
those things?
686
00:38:51,090 --> 00:38:54,180
The day of the UN
declaration, I was
687
00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,420
very young and already asleep.
688
00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:58,980
I remember my mother
came in to wake
689
00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:01,420
me up so I would remember
the day the state of Israel
690
00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:01,920
was created.
691
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,180
She said, "they gave
a state to the Jews."
692
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,600
David Ben-Gurion didn't hide
his concerns from Shimon Peres,
693
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,760
in charge of purchasing weapons.
694
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,600
"Today, the people are dancing,
but tomorrow blood will flow."
695
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,720
I thought he was exaggerating,
but the party ended and indeed
696
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,290
blood did begin to flow.
697
00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:28,200
My father used to say to me
that the day the vote would
698
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,160
be recognized and announced,
a war was sure to follow.
699
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,740
Israel was born in war.
700
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:42,220
People danced all night
on November the 29th.
701
00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:45,360
And the last dances,
the next morning,
702
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,650
saw the first ones killed.
703
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,000
We were told, return
quickly to Tel Aviv.
704
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,540
There are already
some dead in Ramla.
705
00:39:57,150 --> 00:40:00,120
The first war started
with partition.
706
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,260
A war between the Haganah
and the Palestinians,
707
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,920
which was, in fact, the first
in the Israeli-Palestinian
708
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,720
conflict.
709
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,340
What happened was
the Palestinians
710
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:14,250
did not accept the decision
and they started a war.
711
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,650
The Arabs launched
terrorist attacks.
712
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:22,950
Bombs exploded in cities
and roads were mined.
713
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:25,650
In Jerusalem, a
triple-pronged car bomb attack
714
00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:28,890
targeted the offices of the
Palestinian post, the Benyehuda
715
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:31,950
Road Market and the
Jewish Agency offices.
716
00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:34,110
A hundred Jews were killed.
717
00:40:34,110 --> 00:40:37,440
In Haifa, members of Irgun,
the paramilitary organization
718
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,090
that broke away
from the Haganah,
719
00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:41,680
threw two bombs into a
group of Arab workers,
720
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,200
killing six of them.
721
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,620
In retaliation, the angry
crowd killed 39 Jews
722
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:49,530
before British soldiers
could reestablish order.
723
00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:52,710
The Dalet Plan was
developed in March 1948.
724
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:54,450
It gave Haganah
the responsibility
725
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:57,030
for keeping order and
authorized it to start
726
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:58,800
expelling Palestinians.
727
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,740
Ben-Gurion planned to implement
the plan around May the 15th
728
00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:03,350
when the British would leave.
729
00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:05,760
But due to the military
reality on the ground,
730
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,350
the Haganah went
on the offensive
731
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:10,740
and put the plan into action
almost straight-away in April.
732
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,770
The Haganah did all they
could to pressure them,
733
00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:16,920
to scare them, so
that they would leave.
734
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,370
With gunshots in the night
and jeeps or vehicles passing,
735
00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:23,330
they got scared.
736
00:41:23,330 --> 00:41:25,890
The question of evacuating
places and settling
737
00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:29,170
in replacements
constantly came up.
738
00:41:29,170 --> 00:41:32,380
So there was already a very
clear policy in action.
739
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,860
We also have all the
operational plans
740
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,750
carried out by
the military units
741
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:40,290
and the Jewish army, which
was the Haganah back then.
742
00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,900
And they were all aimed
at evacuating land.
743
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:48,790
When my parents got here, they
were offered some housing.
744
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:50,400
A house in Jerusalem
that belonged
745
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,300
to Palestinians who had fled.
746
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:56,380
And both of them turned it down.
747
00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:57,720
They found it bizarre.
748
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,960
They said, "we ourselves
are refugees too.
749
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,860
How could we take
someone else's house?"
750
00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:06,720
Several killings
took place to make
751
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,840
people understand that if they
didn't leave, they face death.
752
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,650
However, if they left,
their lives would be spared.
753
00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:17,520
Remember, the Deir Yassin
happened in March '48
754
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,480
and will cause a panic.
755
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,280
Deir Yassin was a
small Arab village
756
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,940
of 600 people located five
kilometers from Jerusalem.
757
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:29,970
It had no strategic importance
and was not one of the villages
758
00:42:29,970 --> 00:42:31,770
targeted for take-over.
759
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:35,310
Yet in spite of Haganah leader
reticence, the Irgun and Lehi--
760
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:37,740
two paramilitary groups--
attacked the village
761
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:40,990
on the morning of April the 9th.
762
00:42:40,990 --> 00:42:42,690
But the operation
was ill-prepared
763
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:45,120
and the Palestinians surprised
them with their resistance,
764
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,480
killing five including
several officers.
765
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680
The Irgun and Lehi men then
took houses one by one,
766
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,520
blowing up several of them.
767
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,490
There were nearly 200
victims in the massacre.
768
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:11,730
They created conditions
and planned operations
769
00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:13,950
calculated to scare
people and make them flee.
770
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:19,200
As well as the murders
and the massacres,
771
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,280
they did like in the
village of Deir Yassin.
772
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,530
In other villages and
cities like in Lod,
773
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:30,760
people had fled, looking for
protection to stay alive.
774
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,360
About Deir Yassin, everybody
heard about Deir Yassin,
775
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,310
and everybody's mind began to
be that if we stay and we have
776
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:42,720
these Jewish forces come,
they will also massacre us
777
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,810
as they did in Deir Yassin,
so we better not stay and get
778
00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:46,860
massacred.
779
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:50,130
People were terrorized of
the rumors of Deir Yassin.
780
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,920
People were convinced Zionists
would come to kill us all.
781
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,900
We know very well
Zionists had never
782
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,060
had that intention but
to make the largest
783
00:43:57,060 --> 00:43:59,000
number of people flee, yes.
784
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,380
Deir Yassin was
early on and it was
785
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:06,990
used as a psychological
warfare in convincing many more
786
00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:12,900
Arabs and frightening many more
Arabs into fleeing their homes.
787
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:17,370
In the memoirs of the first
American ambassador to Israel,
788
00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:23,160
information about Deir
Yassin was still fresh.
789
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,600
In a conversation he had
with Weizmann, the pacifist,
790
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,780
he said the killings
were unnecessary.
791
00:44:31,780 --> 00:44:39,000
Weizmann pronounced this
was spine-chilling phrase,
792
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,450
"this massacre has been a
miraculous simplification
793
00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:43,680
of Israel's tasks.
794
00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:50,670
It has convinced the most
stubborn among them to leave."
795
00:44:53,310 --> 00:44:55,260
They taught our children
that, well, it's
796
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:58,390
sad that they died but
it's not that important.
797
00:44:58,390 --> 00:45:01,590
What's important is
that we have a country.
798
00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:04,590
On May the 14th,
1948, a jubilant crowd
799
00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:06,750
marched through Tel
Aviv bearing flags
800
00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:08,700
adorned with the Star of David.
801
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,980
In Tel Aviv, because
Jerusalem was surrounded
802
00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:13,110
and inaccessible,
Ben-Gurion stood
803
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:15,150
under a portrait
of Theodor Herzl
804
00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:17,250
and announced in
a firm voice, "we
805
00:45:17,250 --> 00:45:19,380
proclaimed the founding
of the Jewish state
806
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:21,090
which will be called Israel.
807
00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,370
We extend our hand to
all neighboring states
808
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:27,900
and their peoples in an offer of
peace and good neighborliness.
809
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,900
There is enough room in this
country for us and the Arabs."
810
00:45:34,060 --> 00:45:37,240
The state of Israel was born,
the dream had become reality.
811
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,900
But the high Arab
council immediately
812
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,650
declared, "Arabs solemnly
declare before God and history
813
00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:52,140
that they will never submit
to such a power coming
814
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,710
to Palestine to
impose partition."
815
00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:03,780
Great Britain's tenure
officially came to an end
816
00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:05,040
and their troops went home.
817
00:46:07,830 --> 00:46:11,130
The British commander gave back
command of Palestinian lands
818
00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:12,360
to Zionist leaders.
819
00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:22,200
I was so excited that I couldn't
sleep for several nights.
820
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Tel Aviv minus the English.
821
00:46:29,070 --> 00:46:31,680
They had left the
country but they
822
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,170
left the Arabs many weapons.
823
00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:40,190
The English were anti
Zionists from the start.
824
00:46:40,190 --> 00:46:45,020
They didn't believe that
Israel, which was born in blood,
825
00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:47,120
could stand up to
all the Arab armies.
826
00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:57,200
Most diplomats
and world leaders,
827
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:04,250
and even some of the
Zionist leaders here,
828
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:08,660
had serious doubts
that the new state
829
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:12,080
could hold up against
attacks from Arab armies.
830
00:47:16,190 --> 00:47:18,020
Armies from
neighboring Arab states
831
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,930
invaded the areas of the
old Palestinian mandate.
832
00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:23,930
The first Arab-Israeli
war had started.
833
00:47:23,930 --> 00:47:27,410
Egyptian planes bombed Tel Aviv.
834
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:29,120
Less than three years
after liberation
835
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,940
from concentration camps,
the great majority of Jews
836
00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:36,620
felt they were continuing
their fight to survive.
837
00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:39,200
It's true that declaring war
when you're not even ready
838
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
is indeed a mistake.
839
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,360
It should be remembered that
it was the Arab side who
840
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,290
started the war and lost.
841
00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:48,770
Should Israel have
behaved in a better way?
842
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:50,090
Yes.
843
00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:52,100
There were constant
announcements.
844
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,080
If you leave by the
Haifa coastal route
845
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,690
Haifa which is what we did,
you won't risk your life.
846
00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:58,850
You can escape easily.
847
00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:00,410
They were put into trucks.
848
00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:03,860
Between Haifa and Tel Aviv,
nearly all the inhabitants
849
00:48:03,860 --> 00:48:05,480
of the villages were expelled.
850
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,190
People felt endangered and
didn't feel safe to stay.
851
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:13,360
And they all thought as was
the case with my parents
852
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,470
in Jaffa that they
would leave and be safe
853
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:20,210
as people do in wars.
854
00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:23,060
And then after the war is over,
they would be able to return.
855
00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:26,720
But they were never
able to return.
856
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,480
My father made sure
my mother and I were
857
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,530
evacuated a few weeks earlier.
858
00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:38,270
In a truck full of women and
children who they literally
859
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:40,820
dumped at the South
Lebanese border.
860
00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:48,350
When the town fell, my father
and sister went to the port
861
00:48:48,350 --> 00:48:51,050
and got on one of the
last boats sailing out,
862
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:53,570
which they were lucky
to get on, and that's
863
00:48:53,570 --> 00:48:56,990
how they arrived in exile
in Lebanon crossing the sea.
864
00:48:59,930 --> 00:49:01,460
Someone who lived
through the Nakba
865
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:03,770
told me, when leaving,
we found boats
866
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:06,790
that were waiting for us to
leave on the beaches of Jaffa.
867
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:08,450
Did those boats
come by themselves?
868
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:10,490
No, it wasn't just chance.
869
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:11,990
Those boats were
made ready to force
870
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,990
people to flee or emigrate.
871
00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:17,790
People didn't leave
by themselves.
872
00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:22,340
No one leaves their house, their
fields, their land voluntarily.
873
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:26,480
In times of war, people
are afraid and they flee.
874
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,130
They hope that when
the war is over,
875
00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:31,370
they will come back, especially
farmers, back to their land,
876
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:32,040
in their houses.
877
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:38,990
The Arab leaders said to
them, "leave, we will win
878
00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:41,330
and you can come back later.
879
00:49:41,330 --> 00:49:46,580
We'll get our property and our
land back because we will win."
880
00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:49,310
Someone who flees their home
has no right to come back to it.
881
00:49:49,310 --> 00:49:51,650
The crime was not
letting them come back.
882
00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:53,400
During wartime, people flee.
883
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,140
They move.
884
00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:55,650
All kinds of things happen.
885
00:49:55,650 --> 00:49:58,280
But why did we shoot at them
when they tried to come back?
886
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,880
In July, long after-- a few
months after the establishment
887
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,730
of the Israeli state
which was in May--
888
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:08,540
in July at gunpoint, people
were forced out of their home.
889
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,810
Nearly 750,000 Palestinians
had been expelled before,
890
00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:20,600
during, and after 1948.
891
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,920
Following a series of operations
interspersed by truces,
892
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,750
the Israeli military forces
were winning on all fronts
893
00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:28,850
except for Jerusalem,
which was split
894
00:50:28,850 --> 00:50:31,040
in half by the
armistice line leaving
895
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,350
the old town to the Arabs.
896
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:37,070
The Jewish population was chased
out by the Jordanian forces.
897
00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:39,890
The West Bank was annexed
by the Kingdom of Jordan,
898
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:42,680
and the Gaza Strip
was occupied by Egypt.
899
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,500
Palestine disappeared
from official maps.
900
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:49,490
By winning the war, Israel
conquered 26% more territory
901
00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:51,590
than the partition
plan provided for,
902
00:50:51,590 --> 00:50:57,860
taking control of 81%
of Palestine in 1947.
903
00:50:57,860 --> 00:50:59,570
After the war,
Israel would settle
904
00:50:59,570 --> 00:51:01,520
on the lands it had conquered.
905
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,590
Part of these lands
were state land
906
00:51:03,590 --> 00:51:05,750
but another part were
lands from Arab villages
907
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:07,230
which were nationalized.
908
00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:08,210
I can't ignore it.
909
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:10,620
It's a fact of history.
910
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:16,010
10% of the Palestinians lands
were purchased up to 1947.
911
00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:19,950
Only 10%, barely 10%.
912
00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:23,840
The rest of the land was
annexed, seized after 1948
913
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,620
after the war.
914
00:51:28,190 --> 00:51:30,560
Out of the 900,000
Palestinian Arabs
915
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,340
living in territories
now controlled by Israel,
916
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:38,270
nearly 750,000 left
during the war of 1948.
917
00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:41,180
Only 150,000
Palestinians were left,
918
00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:44,600
subject to Israeli
military administration.
919
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,660
The international community
carefully ignored the refugees
920
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:49,700
as they drifted
with no place to go.
921
00:51:53,660 --> 00:51:58,970
Add to that, in 1948 there were
millions of displaced people
922
00:51:58,970 --> 00:52:01,040
all over Europe.
923
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,360
So 800,000 Palestinians
or natives, as we
924
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,690
were called back then.
925
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:10,790
Where is the problem?
926
00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:24,690
As soon as the state
of Israel was created,
927
00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:26,430
the British laws
limiting immigration
928
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:29,000
were abolished, opening
the doors wide to all Jews.
929
00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:35,190
The Law of Return
established the right
930
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:37,670
of every Jew to become an
Israeli citizen by immigrating
931
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:38,500
to the country.
932
00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:44,350
It was the start of
a huge immigration
933
00:54:44,350 --> 00:54:48,420
from Europe, a true tidal wave.
934
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:53,290
More than half were
survivors of the Holocaust.
935
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,880
During the first six
months after independence,
936
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,520
100,000 immigrants landed in
Israel and more than 250,000
937
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,600
in 1949, increasing the
country's population by 50%.
938
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,210
These new immigrants coming
from all over the world
939
00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:11,230
were strangers to each other
and spoke an incalculable number
940
00:55:11,230 --> 00:55:12,740
of different languages.
941
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:15,760
The priority was then to
integrate these hundreds
942
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,380
of thousands of immigrants.
943
00:55:29,620 --> 00:55:32,140
We came here in boats.
944
00:55:32,140 --> 00:55:35,050
I was a little
over six years old.
945
00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:37,290
We came from Buenos
Aires in Argentina.
946
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,440
For us children, it was
a marvelous adventure.
947
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
We felt like it was a
new life, a new name,
948
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,710
a new place where we had
to start everything over.
949
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,620
It was very hard, but it
was a wonderful feeling.
950
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,110
During a spectacular operation
named Operation Magic Carpet,
951
00:56:06,110 --> 00:56:08,210
over 45,000
immigrants from Yemen
952
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:11,960
were brought to Israel
on three flights a day.
953
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,460
The Yemenite Jewish
community was
954
00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:16,460
one of the oldest in
the Arab peninsula.
955
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:20,090
In 1947, soon after the
UN vote, violent protests
956
00:56:20,090 --> 00:56:22,970
against the Jews killed
82 people with stores
957
00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:26,480
sacked and destroyed
and synagogues burned.
958
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,330
Ben-Gurion declared in
front of the Knesset,
959
00:56:29,330 --> 00:56:32,840
our goal is to acclimatize the
Yemenites to Israeli values,
960
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,510
until they forget where
they came from, just as I
961
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:38,390
had forgotten I was Polish.
962
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:40,820
For my grandmother
who was a Marxist,
963
00:56:40,820 --> 00:56:44,000
they weren't even primitives,
but proto-primitives.
964
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,100
On the other hand,
for the Yemenites,
965
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:49,300
my grandmother
wasn't even Jewish.
966
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:52,100
An article published in
the newspaper, Haaretz,
967
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:54,410
stated, "These
immigrants from Yemen
968
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:57,050
are at a level
below Palestinians.
969
00:56:57,050 --> 00:56:58,760
It will take generations
to get them out
970
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,590
of the medieval
pit they live in."
971
00:57:02,590 --> 00:57:05,440
Faced with a wave of immigration
and a lack of resources,
972
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,870
the Ben-Gurion government
implemented an austerity
973
00:57:07,870 --> 00:57:10,480
program and food rationing.
974
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,630
Thousands of Israelis
protested for bread and work
975
00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:15,730
and sacked the offices
of the Jewish Agency,
976
00:57:15,730 --> 00:57:17,200
demanding work and lodging.
977
00:57:22,990 --> 00:57:26,590
The population had doubled,
but not the resources.
978
00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:29,800
There was nothing,
only ration tickets.
979
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,810
We had nothing left to eat.
980
00:57:31,810 --> 00:57:34,390
There was almost no food.
981
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:37,580
At the end of 1951,
nothing was left.
982
00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:40,040
It was the German reparations
money that would save us.
983
00:57:42,970 --> 00:57:49,110
Ben-Gurion understood he
needed the German reparations,
984
00:57:49,110 --> 00:57:52,850
since the Israeli
economy was dying.
985
00:57:52,850 --> 00:57:57,360
And without that money, he
couldn't accomplish much.
986
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,970
Menachem Begin, ghetto
survivors, and even
987
00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:01,530
the left wing said, what?
988
00:58:01,530 --> 00:58:02,650
German money?
989
00:58:02,650 --> 00:58:03,750
You'll have to kill us.
990
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:05,280
We really were starting to die.
991
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,850
Begin was opposed to
this answer, which
992
00:58:11,850 --> 00:58:16,680
he viewed as a blood
ransom, dirty money,
993
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,800
money exchanged for
the blood of Jews.
994
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,400
And he organized demonstrations
throughout the country,
995
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,700
especially Jerusalem.
996
00:58:30,130 --> 00:58:32,410
People lived in shacks.
997
00:58:32,410 --> 00:58:34,170
There was austerity.
998
00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:35,700
Petro was getting low.
999
00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,280
Gas, money.
1000
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,860
We were crumbling.
1001
00:58:38,860 --> 00:58:42,180
So if Germans were
paying, why not?
1002
00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:43,980
One Israeli in
four was a survivor
1003
00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:47,430
of the Holocaust in the 1950s.
1004
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:51,020
My people cannot
forget its past.
1005
00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:54,820
But Germany of today is not
the Germany of yesterday.
1006
00:58:54,820 --> 00:59:04,680
(NON-ENGLISH SINGING)
1007
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,090
You have to understand people's
state of mind after the war.
1008
00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:11,220
The intense hate they
had against Germans
1009
00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:13,770
continued in Israel.
1010
00:59:13,770 --> 00:59:17,130
When I go to Israel and we
received an Israeli passport,
1011
00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:19,760
inside it was written,
"valid for all countries
1012
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,430
except Germany."
1013
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,650
Speaking German was forbidden.
1014
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:34,890
In the following
years, the situation
1015
00:59:34,890 --> 00:59:37,050
for Jews in Arab
and Muslim countries
1016
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:39,900
worsened after demonstrations
and openly anti-Semitic
1017
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,210
policies.
1018
00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:44,670
The main objective for members
of the Jewish communities
1019
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:48,090
in the Arab world,
over 850,000 people,
1020
00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:49,860
was to flee those
countries, leaving
1021
00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:52,410
behind their possessions.
1022
00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:56,140
Among them, 600,000
sought refuge in Israel.
1023
00:59:56,140 --> 00:59:58,510
The president of the Jewish
Agency executive branch
1024
00:59:58,510 --> 01:00:01,960
declared, we should bring
all Sephardic Jews here
1025
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,020
to save them, but also to
acquire the manpower we
1026
01:00:05,020 --> 01:00:06,400
need to build the country.
1027
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:14,560
Ben-Gurion wanted to
bring every Jew over here.
1028
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,860
They told him, listen,
our economy will collapse.
1029
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:19,720
It's impossible.
1030
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,340
We can't increase our
population in three years.
1031
01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:26,350
But Ben-Gurion wouldn't
listen and ordered
1032
01:00:26,350 --> 01:00:30,130
all Jews to be brought over.
1033
01:00:30,130 --> 01:00:34,930
830,000 Jews had been
expelled from Arab countries
1034
01:00:34,930 --> 01:00:39,460
from Egypt, Iraq,
Yemen, North Africa.
1035
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:43,820
They arrived with nothing,
went straight into tents.
1036
01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:46,630
The first waves of
Sephardic Jewish immigration
1037
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:48,850
brought people to
Israel, who faced
1038
01:00:48,850 --> 01:00:51,740
insurmountable
integration difficulties.
1039
01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:53,830
Many North African
immigrants could neither read
1040
01:00:53,830 --> 01:00:55,810
nor write in any language.
1041
01:00:55,810 --> 01:00:58,240
Their lives were completely
turned upside down.
1042
01:01:03,370 --> 01:01:07,090
The arrival of Jews who had been
expelled from Arab countries
1043
01:01:07,090 --> 01:01:09,350
and were now here as refugees--
1044
01:01:09,350 --> 01:01:11,110
most of them Zionists--
1045
01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:11,920
caused panic.
1046
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,530
Because now, there was a
population here from Europe.
1047
01:01:17,530 --> 01:01:19,540
Israel decided to
transfer the immigrants
1048
01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:22,510
to work in collective farms.
1049
01:01:22,510 --> 01:01:24,550
Eyewitnesses remember
immigrants refusing
1050
01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:27,340
to descend from the trucks,
which tilted their platforms
1051
01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:30,320
to force them out.
1052
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,210
Most of them knew
nothing about farming
1053
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:35,750
and had received no
training beforehand.
1054
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:37,730
One newspaper wrote.
1055
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:40,910
"Inside the camps, you see
a confused mass of people
1056
01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:46,400
of all ages and from everywhere,
disoriented, disconcerted,
1057
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,020
loaded with baskets,
babies, hordes of children."
1058
01:01:56,820 --> 01:02:00,850
What the North African Jews
and Jews from Arab lands
1059
01:02:00,850 --> 01:02:07,730
suffered here deserves
a film of its own.
1060
01:02:07,730 --> 01:02:12,550
Without getting into details,
they suffered atrocious things.
1061
01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:14,410
I grew up during
the '50s and '60s.
1062
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,820
In Tel Aviv, there
were practically only
1063
01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:21,290
Ashkenazi kids.
1064
01:02:21,290 --> 01:02:24,620
Only afterwards did I begin to
understand that this wasn't all
1065
01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:27,500
of Israel's society, that
they had tried to build
1066
01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:28,900
a kind of European bubble.
1067
01:02:32,290 --> 01:02:34,940
When they got here, the
Jews from Eastern Europe
1068
01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:37,040
took control.
1069
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,900
They were leaders of
the Zionist movement,
1070
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:40,850
then they led the country.
1071
01:02:40,850 --> 01:02:46,030
They treated Jews from Arab
countries as an inferior race.
1072
01:02:46,030 --> 01:02:48,020
They arrived here
with total contempt
1073
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,730
for all that wasn't European.
1074
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:51,250
It was shameful.
1075
01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:54,950
It was, the Asians are
arriving, the Orientals.
1076
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:58,940
They have no culture, and
most of them are illiterate.
1077
01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:02,490
The heads of the Jewish
Agency sounded the alarm.
1078
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:04,580
We are destroying these people.
1079
01:03:04,580 --> 01:03:08,570
Ben-Gurion insisted immigration
strengthens our security.
1080
01:03:08,570 --> 01:03:10,980
By doubling, tripling
the number of immigrants,
1081
01:03:10,980 --> 01:03:12,780
we can increase our strength.
1082
01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:15,080
But the Minister of
Immigration refused.
1083
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,360
The rest of us, the
managers of integration,
1084
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,820
confirmed that it must be
slowed down at all costs.
1085
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:23,930
So the government took measures
inconceivable a year ago.
1086
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:26,810
Limit the waves of immigration
as much as possible.
1087
01:03:26,810 --> 01:03:29,600
In '51, there were 173,000.
1088
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:36,050
In '52, less than 24,000 and
10,000 the following year.
1089
01:03:36,050 --> 01:03:39,020
Ben-Gurion asked the women
to have many children.
1090
01:03:39,020 --> 01:03:41,120
And in the end, the ones
who had a lot of children
1091
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,320
weren't the ones whose
progeny he wanted.
1092
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,480
He was frustrated.
1093
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,970
The country didn't match
what he wanted it to be.
1094
01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:55,520
He was disappointed not
just by the Sephardic Jews,
1095
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,680
but by the Jews in general.
1096
01:04:00,530 --> 01:04:01,550
What to do?
1097
01:04:01,550 --> 01:04:03,080
There wasn't another people.
1098
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,790
It was our people.
1099
01:04:05,790 --> 01:04:09,890
In a few years,
Israel grew by 10%.
1100
01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:13,160
Several cities were created as
well as nearly 400 kibbutzim
1101
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,030
and collective farms.
1102
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,470
But the country had to
face up to the Arab refusal
1103
01:04:17,470 --> 01:04:19,360
to accept them in the region.
1104
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,130
There were thousands
of clashes and acts
1105
01:04:21,130 --> 01:04:23,770
of sabotage inside Israel.
1106
01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:28,069
And more than 400 Israelis
were killed from 1953 to 1956.
1107
01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:35,020
In Egypt, King
Farouk was deposed.
1108
01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:39,900
And Lieutenant Colonel Gamal
Abdel Nasser took power.
1109
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:44,140
As a soldier, Nasser
was taken prisoner here.
1110
01:04:44,140 --> 01:04:47,670
He had become good friends with
one of the Israeli officers,
1111
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:51,920
and the Palestinian question
wasn't a big concern for him.
1112
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,380
[SIREN]
1113
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,760
During the year 1956, tensions
rose between Israel and Egypt
1114
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,970
with raids led by Palestinians
in Israeli territory.
1115
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:08,400
Nasser rose to power and
nationalized the Suez Canal
1116
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,700
in July, closing it
to Israeli ships.
1117
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,790
His regime, together with the
constant acts of harassment,
1118
01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:18,450
culminated in the Sinai
Campaign and the Suez Crisis.
1119
01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:20,340
France, Great
Britain, and Israel
1120
01:05:20,340 --> 01:05:23,220
concluded a secret agreement
to take control of the canal
1121
01:05:23,220 --> 01:05:26,190
and overthrow Nasser.
1122
01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:30,390
On October the 29th, 1956, the
Israeli invasion of the Sinai
1123
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:32,490
was followed by British
and French troops
1124
01:05:32,490 --> 01:05:33,830
landing in Port Said.
1125
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,000
I participated in
numerous wars--
1126
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,860
several wars.
1127
01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:54,860
In most of the cases,
we didn't have a choice,
1128
01:05:54,860 --> 01:06:00,200
except once, when Moshe Dayan
with the English and French
1129
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:05,090
went to attack Egypt in 1956.
1130
01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:08,780
It's true that in 1956,
Israel had occupied Sinai,
1131
01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:11,780
but they only stayed
for three weeks.
1132
01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:13,930
The French, English,
and Israelis
1133
01:06:13,930 --> 01:06:16,240
were forced to retreat under
pressure from the United
1134
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,370
States and the Soviet Union.
1135
01:06:18,370 --> 01:06:22,300
The Suez expedition had turned
into a fiasco, a crisis.
1136
01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:25,240
Nasser emerged as the
great victor in the crisis.
1137
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,310
He managed to transform
a military rout
1138
01:06:27,310 --> 01:06:30,010
into a political triumph
that raised his popularity
1139
01:06:30,010 --> 01:06:32,710
in the Arab world considerably.
1140
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:35,740
Sinai was given to
Egypt early in 1957.
1141
01:06:35,740 --> 01:06:39,670
Ben-Gurion felt this retreat
was a personal failure.
1142
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:41,530
He had wanted this
war against Egypt.
1143
01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:45,170
And that decision was criticized
in the seat of government.
1144
01:06:45,170 --> 01:06:47,530
President Eisenhower was
furious that Ben-Gurion
1145
01:06:47,530 --> 01:06:49,090
had intervened
without consulting
1146
01:06:49,090 --> 01:06:50,590
the American government.
1147
01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:53,500
Ben-Gurion felt
bitter and depressed,
1148
01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:57,580
until a day in May 1960, when
he appeared before the Knesset
1149
01:06:57,580 --> 01:07:00,060
to read a declaration.
1150
01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:13,980
[SPEAKING HEBREW]
1151
01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:17,040
Adolf Eichmann, who had
been captured in Argentina,
1152
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,680
would be tried in Jerusalem
for his participation
1153
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,420
in the Final Solution.
1154
01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:23,850
It was the first time
that a high-ranking Nazi
1155
01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:29,090
appeared before those he
had wanted to annihilate.
1156
01:07:29,090 --> 01:07:31,610
During the 11 months
between Eichmann's capture
1157
01:07:31,610 --> 01:07:33,920
and the start of the
trial, Ben-Gurion
1158
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,560
would do his utmost
to ensure a Nuremberg
1159
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,640
for the Jewish people.
1160
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:38,990
[NON-ENGLISH]
1161
01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:49,790
I went there every day from
the first to the last day.
1162
01:07:49,790 --> 01:07:52,340
I was the only reporter to
follow the trial from start
1163
01:07:52,340 --> 01:07:52,920
to finish.
1164
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,140
There were 110 witnesses.
1165
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:03,400
And day and night,
we had them speak.
1166
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,090
Thanks to the transistor
radio, the Eichmann trial
1167
01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:11,880
would act as collective
therapy for Israelis,
1168
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,090
especially young people.
1169
01:08:15,090 --> 01:08:20,340
Young people born in Israel
knew nothing about the past.
1170
01:08:20,340 --> 01:08:22,800
They knew so little.
1171
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,180
It took time.
1172
01:08:24,180 --> 01:08:29,250
We had to wait for the 1960s.
1173
01:08:29,250 --> 01:08:31,620
With his final
mission accomplished,
1174
01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:35,910
David Ben-Gurion retired from
public life in June 1963,
1175
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:38,940
after serving as prime
minister for 14 years
1176
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:42,570
and designated Levi
Eshkol as his successor.
1177
01:08:42,570 --> 01:08:46,020
Then he returned to his kibbutz,
Sde Boker, in the Negev Desert.
1178
01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:58,740
Ben-Gurion was
like a Machiavelli.
1179
01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:00,970
That was Ben-Gurion.
1180
01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:03,470
Without him, the state of Israel
wouldn't have been created.
1181
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,130
We the Palestinian people have
paid a heavy price in blood
1182
01:09:12,130 --> 01:09:13,680
for the birth of
the state of Israel.
1183
01:09:16,260 --> 01:09:20,550
Israeli position has
been that with time,
1184
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:23,160
the Palestinians would
forget Palestine.
1185
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,690
And they would find
other places to live.
1186
01:09:27,690 --> 01:09:33,000
And as the generations
go, they will simply
1187
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,920
have no memory of
Palestine and therefore,
1188
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,260
no attachment and so on.
1189
01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:39,720
But that is also,
of course, not true.
1190
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,450
Ben-Gurion said that in a
dozen years or 20 years,
1191
01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:46,380
they'd even forget
they were a people.
1192
01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:49,440
Fortunately, he was not right.
1193
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:51,530
Thank God.
1194
01:09:51,530 --> 01:09:53,480
The links Palestinians
have with their land
1195
01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:54,810
have remained very strong.
1196
01:10:01,060 --> 01:10:04,790
Ben-Gurion made a lot
of mistakes, of course.
1197
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:08,930
He thought, then, with time,
they'd end up forgetting.
1198
01:10:08,930 --> 01:10:10,470
They haven't forgotten it.
1199
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:12,190
And we won't let them forget.
1200
01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:15,230
Though many of those
who have left this land
1201
01:10:15,230 --> 01:10:17,480
haven't found their
place, it's also
1202
01:10:17,480 --> 01:10:19,160
because the countries
who accepted
1203
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:24,090
them did not allow them to
make a place for themselves.
1204
01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:25,490
They weren't integrated.
1205
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:27,740
They were placed
in refugee camps.
1206
01:10:27,740 --> 01:10:29,570
Palestinians are
the only people who
1207
01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:32,000
have been refugees from
one generation to another.
1208
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:40,720
They never wanted to integrate
them for personal reasons,
1209
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:46,010
but also to keep the
Palestinian question alive.
1210
01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:52,570
Of course, it's a diplomatic
and moral weapon against Israel.
1211
01:10:52,570 --> 01:10:55,130
As if to excuse
their powerlessness,
1212
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:57,680
the Arab regimes repeated
beautiful speeches,
1213
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,080
promising the
liberation of Palestine.
1214
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,960
But in May 1964,
a congress uniting
1215
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,080
Palestinian representatives
Gamal Abdel Nasser and King
1216
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,010
Hussein of Jordan was held
in the east of Jerusalem.
1217
01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:15,020
The Palestinian question,
thus, has more weight.
1218
01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:19,180
Because the Arab world can
unite over this question.
1219
01:11:19,180 --> 01:11:21,320
And the Palestinian
question becomes central.
1220
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,840
The Congress was held
on the Mount of Olives.
1221
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,280
It was the First Congress.
1222
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,100
My father was there, along
with many other Palestinians.
1223
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:33,110
Ahmad al-Shukeiri
was also there.
1224
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,440
Nasser would insist on the
Palestinian Ahmad Shukeiri
1225
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:42,080
as the first president of the
PLO, the Palestine Liberation
1226
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,170
Organization.
1227
01:11:45,170 --> 01:11:48,990
The PLO felt armed conflict
was the route to follow.
1228
01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:52,000
The [INAUDIBLE] was
not just a defeat.
1229
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,710
It was an utter
demolition of the notion,
1230
01:11:56,710 --> 01:12:00,010
an attempt at
utterly demolishing
1231
01:12:00,010 --> 01:12:02,380
the Palestinian existence.
1232
01:12:02,380 --> 01:12:06,980
And when you try and demolish
the existence of another,
1233
01:12:06,980 --> 01:12:11,890
then you put their backs on the
wall, and then they fight back.
1234
01:12:11,890 --> 01:12:15,110
This was the start of
Palestinian terrorism.
1235
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:17,060
Fedayeen threw
themselves into a wave
1236
01:12:17,060 --> 01:12:20,420
of attacks that would undermine
Israeli society morale,
1237
01:12:20,420 --> 01:12:22,460
especially since the
country was experiencing
1238
01:12:22,460 --> 01:12:25,310
an unprecedented
economic crisis.
1239
01:12:25,310 --> 01:12:27,350
Many Israelis left the country.
1240
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:30,380
An ironic sign in the airport
said, "The last Israeli
1241
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:33,560
to leave should turn
out the lights."
1242
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,350
In '65, there was a great
recession in Israel.
1243
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:39,140
I was a child at the time.
1244
01:12:39,140 --> 01:12:41,480
Our economic situation
was catastrophic.
1245
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:43,170
Unemployment was rising.
1246
01:12:43,170 --> 01:12:44,810
There was no more money.
1247
01:12:44,810 --> 01:12:46,380
We lived very modestly, really.
1248
01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:52,580
From the Syrian Golan Heights,
heavy artillery attacks
1249
01:12:52,580 --> 01:12:54,890
regularly occurred
against Israeli locations
1250
01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:57,440
in northern Galilee.
1251
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,390
Prime Minister Levi Eshkol
went there to try and reassure
1252
01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:00,890
the people.
1253
01:13:05,770 --> 01:13:09,430
In April, 1967,
seven Syrian MiG-21s
1254
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:11,650
were shot down by the Israelis.
1255
01:13:11,650 --> 01:13:14,360
The Arab world had to retaliate.
1256
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,560
In May 1967, the
conflict escalated.
1257
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,490
Nasser ordered his
army to reoccupy
1258
01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:24,410
the Sinai, a demilitarized
zone for the past 10 years,
1259
01:13:24,410 --> 01:13:27,170
and insisted that the UN
international forces deployed
1260
01:13:27,170 --> 01:13:29,180
there must depart.
1261
01:13:29,180 --> 01:13:31,520
By closing the Straits of
Tehran between the Aqaba
1262
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,400
Gulf and the Red Sea,
Egypt blocked access
1263
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,800
to the Israeli port Eilat.
1264
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:43,130
For Israel, it was a [INAUDIBLE]
that could only lead to war.
1265
01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:46,590
Nasser fell into such a trap.
1266
01:13:46,590 --> 01:13:49,490
He thought he could talk
about it without actually
1267
01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:50,840
doing anything.
1268
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,670
From the moment he
started talking about it,
1269
01:13:52,670 --> 01:13:55,380
a mechanism was set in motion.
1270
01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:57,410
And he was caught up in it.
1271
01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:59,890
He didn't think he
would have to do it.
1272
01:13:59,890 --> 01:14:02,860
They really took him for a ride,
which he realized afterwards.
1273
01:14:06,530 --> 01:14:09,200
Just prior to the
Six-Day War, there
1274
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,010
were three weeks that were
called the weeks of waiting,
1275
01:14:13,010 --> 01:14:13,690
and we waited.
1276
01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:19,930
Nasser had closed
all passage points,
1277
01:14:19,930 --> 01:14:23,180
and wanted to invade us,
and to occupy our country.
1278
01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:32,640
Nasser forced us to
call in the reservists.
1279
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,810
And given that it was
a tiny state, when
1280
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:41,740
we called in the reservists,
there was no one left to work.
1281
01:14:41,740 --> 01:14:47,480
I said to my wife, if they
mobilize us elderly people too,
1282
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:50,840
that means there will be war.
1283
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,740
For long weeks, the
country was in suspense.
1284
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:57,870
People weren't working.
1285
01:14:57,870 --> 01:15:01,390
It's something you can tolerate
for one week, or two weeks,
1286
01:15:01,390 --> 01:15:03,570
three weeks, but
not an eternity.
1287
01:15:03,570 --> 01:15:06,540
There was a
pogrom-like atmosphere.
1288
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:12,250
At every intersection in Cairo,
Jews were symbolically hanged.
1289
01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:14,480
Israelis watched
these televised images
1290
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:16,480
from neighboring countries
with growing concern.
1291
01:15:22,930 --> 01:15:26,960
I remember my mother sealing
windows with Scotch tape,
1292
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,280
because we were going to
be bombed at any moment.
1293
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,740
We truly had the feeling
of being in great danger.
1294
01:15:35,260 --> 01:15:37,600
We thought there would
be hundreds and hundreds
1295
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,760
of dead and wounded.
1296
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,010
Beds were being prepared
in the hospitals.
1297
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,710
Volunteers dug holes
in football pitches
1298
01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:50,620
and public squares for the
thousands of Israeli victims
1299
01:15:50,620 --> 01:15:54,730
to be buried in after the war.
1300
01:15:54,730 --> 01:15:58,600
I remember the [INAUDIBLE]
neighbors were terrorized.
1301
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,130
There were alarms.
1302
01:16:00,130 --> 01:16:02,380
And they ran down to the
ground floor of the building,
1303
01:16:02,380 --> 01:16:04,980
because there was no shelter.
1304
01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:06,390
[NON-ENGLISH SINGING]
1305
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,730
Both countries continued
exchanging fighting words
1306
01:16:16,730 --> 01:16:18,080
through songs.
1307
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,830
On the Israeli side, Nasser
wants to rip up Rabin.
1308
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:25,680
[NON-ENGLISH SINGING]
1309
01:16:33,730 --> 01:16:36,520
Cairo radios broadcast a
song, which was basically
1310
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,560
a call to kill all Israelis--
1311
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,420
death to the Jews.
1312
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,400
Palestinian leader Ahmad
Shukeiri's watchword,
1313
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,280
all Jews into the sea,
was more moderate.
1314
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:57,550
Shukeiri was Nasser's voice.
1315
01:16:57,550 --> 01:17:01,570
As you're aware, he was thrown
out of the Palestine movement.
1316
01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:09,640
Egyptian television
broadcast made up
1317
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,950
images of what the
next war would be like.
1318
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:26,380
We would have done
better to weigh our ideas
1319
01:17:26,380 --> 01:17:32,410
and declarations,
try to balance them
1320
01:17:32,410 --> 01:17:38,440
according to our capacities
and our own interests.
1321
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,220
That's certain.
1322
01:17:42,190 --> 01:17:44,170
I was 11 then.
1323
01:17:44,170 --> 01:17:47,320
And I felt that this was a war
to save its very existence.
1324
01:17:52,450 --> 01:17:55,780
That's how they
presented things to us.
1325
01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:58,330
And of course, on
the radio, we also
1326
01:17:58,330 --> 01:18:03,640
heard Arabs who said that
this time they would win.
1327
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,000
It was scary.
1328
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,480
[NON-ENGLISH SINGING]
1329
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:22,090
One could very often hear the
phrase, "exterminate Israel,"
1330
01:18:22,090 --> 01:18:24,100
on radios and televisions.
1331
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:27,150
The word exterminate
referred to the Holocaust.
1332
01:18:27,150 --> 01:18:30,010
And people were really
expecting another Holocaust.
1333
01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:43,510
We are always afraid we'll
be thrown into the sea,
1334
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:47,380
or be hated, or be exterminated.
1335
01:18:47,380 --> 01:18:50,410
So every day we
experience the Holocaust
1336
01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:54,010
as if it could happen
in the next few minutes.
1337
01:18:54,010 --> 01:18:57,160
The country was so
small and so narrow.
1338
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,080
On the eve of the
Six-Day War, we really
1339
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,520
thought that could happen.
1340
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,120
You know what we called
the borders of Israel?
1341
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,070
The borders of Auschwitz.
1342
01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:09,130
We were overwhelmed by a
real sense of agony fed
1343
01:19:09,130 --> 01:19:13,740
by the Syrians and Jordanians
that Israel would vanish.
1344
01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:18,880
In Israel, an agony
difficult to describe arose.
1345
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,780
We said, we're
going to disappear.
1346
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:23,590
And the army officers
turned to Eshkol
1347
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:27,490
and said to him, what
are you waiting for?
1348
01:19:27,490 --> 01:19:30,820
Prime Minister Levi Eshkol
warned General Yitzhak Rabin,
1349
01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:33,910
a hero of the 1948
Arab-Israeli War,
1350
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:37,390
we cannot start a war without
a green light from America.
1351
01:19:37,390 --> 01:19:40,570
Eshkol also had to confront his
Defense Minister General Moshe
1352
01:19:40,570 --> 01:19:41,740
Dayan.
1353
01:19:41,740 --> 01:19:45,010
Dayan had fought in the ranks of
the Haganah from the age of 14,
1354
01:19:45,010 --> 01:19:47,770
had held the highest offices
during the war of '48,
1355
01:19:47,770 --> 01:19:51,490
including Army Chief of
Staff during the Suez War.
1356
01:19:51,490 --> 01:19:53,450
Rabin closeted
himself with Dayan
1357
01:19:53,450 --> 01:19:55,720
and Menachem Begin,
the opposition leader,
1358
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,150
then told Levi Eshkol that
the country had no choice.
1359
01:19:59,150 --> 01:20:03,070
We must attack without delay
to avoid being swept away.
1360
01:20:03,070 --> 01:20:05,140
Eshkol, with little
military experience,
1361
01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:07,660
was outnumbered and allowed
himself to be convinced,
1362
01:20:07,660 --> 01:20:08,650
siding with Dayan.
1363
01:20:13,340 --> 01:20:16,280
As soon as Dayan joined
the government with people
1364
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,210
like Begin, who was the leader
of the opposition party,
1365
01:20:20,210 --> 01:20:22,840
it was the first time
such a thing had happened.
1366
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,860
And it was clear we
were headed for war.
1367
01:20:32,170 --> 01:20:35,000
On the 5th of June,
over 400 planes
1368
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,000
from the Egyptian Air Force
were destroyed in three hours.
1369
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,150
The head of the Air
Force, General Weizman,
1370
01:20:41,150 --> 01:20:45,510
called his spouse to say,
we've just won the war.
1371
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:48,110
A little later, a land
offensive took place
1372
01:20:48,110 --> 01:20:50,240
in the Sinai and the Gaza Strip.
1373
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,570
70,000 men and 700
Israeli army tanks
1374
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:57,020
attacked the Egyptian forces
stationed in the Sinai.
1375
01:20:57,020 --> 01:20:58,910
Deprived of Air
Force reinforcement,
1376
01:20:58,910 --> 01:21:01,310
they could not stand
up to the onslaught.
1377
01:21:01,310 --> 01:21:03,770
The next day, the
Israeli army easily
1378
01:21:03,770 --> 01:21:05,150
occupied the Sinai Desert.
1379
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,370
The fact that we
paralyzed the Egyptian Air
1380
01:21:20,370 --> 01:21:24,100
Force in the first
hours of the war
1381
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:25,750
showed how the war would end.
1382
01:21:28,630 --> 01:21:32,070
Most of all, there was the
euphoria of still being alive,
1383
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:33,380
surviving.
1384
01:21:33,380 --> 01:21:34,690
We survived.
1385
01:21:34,690 --> 01:21:37,490
We're here.
1386
01:21:37,490 --> 01:21:40,570
We really experienced
it as a true threat
1387
01:21:40,570 --> 01:21:44,050
to our survival, an
existential threat.
1388
01:21:44,050 --> 01:21:46,480
Then later, there were
theories that it was just
1389
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:50,470
a huge bluff, things like that.
1390
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:53,410
It was confirmed by historians.
1391
01:21:53,410 --> 01:21:56,240
We found out that the
authorities, our leaders,
1392
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,740
knew very well our existence
wasn't in any danger.
1393
01:21:59,740 --> 01:22:02,260
They said we were threatened
with extermination,
1394
01:22:02,260 --> 01:22:05,500
and I believed it.
1395
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:07,210
The fact that they
played on that fear
1396
01:22:07,210 --> 01:22:09,010
says a lot about
the Israeli leaders.
1397
01:22:13,090 --> 01:22:15,640
The only reason why the
Six-Day War was declared
1398
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,220
is because our generals
estimated the Egyptian Army was
1399
01:22:18,220 --> 01:22:18,930
very weak.
1400
01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:21,100
And it was the right time
to attack them and conquer
1401
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,750
territory.
1402
01:22:22,750 --> 01:22:23,470
It's the truth.
1403
01:22:26,260 --> 01:22:28,780
To say there was a threat
of examination-- everyone
1404
01:22:28,780 --> 01:22:30,250
knows that was a lie.
1405
01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:33,900
My father said so right away.
1406
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:36,370
General Matti Peled,
father of Nurit Peled,
1407
01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:39,850
later declared, all those
tales about the enormous danger
1408
01:22:39,850 --> 01:22:41,910
we faced because of
our cramped country
1409
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:43,570
were never taken
into account during
1410
01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:47,560
our pre-battle calculations.
1411
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,290
To pretend that the Egyptian
Forces gathered at our border,
1412
01:22:50,290 --> 01:22:52,270
could threaten the
existence of Israel
1413
01:22:52,270 --> 01:22:54,820
is an insult to intelligence
and to our army.
1414
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,750
It was only after four
years that other truths
1415
01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:05,100
emerged about the Six-Day War.
1416
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:08,280
Mordechai Bentov, Minister
of Labor and Reconstruction--
1417
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,740
all those tales about
the risk of extermination
1418
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:13,830
were invented piecemeal and
exaggerated after the fact
1419
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:16,620
to justify annexing
new Arab territories.
1420
01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:19,440
General Ezer
Weitzman-- there never
1421
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:21,450
was danger of extermination.
1422
01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:25,590
This theory was never envisioned
before the Six-Day War.
1423
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:29,010
Menachem Begin-- Nasser wasn't
really going to attack us.
1424
01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:30,940
We should be honest
with ourselves.
1425
01:23:30,940 --> 01:23:33,480
We decided to attack.
1426
01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:36,750
Moshe Dayan-- the idea that
Syria threatened Israel
1427
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,600
before the War of
'67 is just a joke.
1428
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,080
Yitzhak Rabin-- I don't
think Nasser wanted war.
1429
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,820
The divisions he sent
to Sinai wouldn't
1430
01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:47,160
have been enough to launch
an attack against Israel.
1431
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,070
He knew it.
1432
01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:50,940
And we knew it.
1433
01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:53,310
We didn't experience
it like that,
1434
01:23:53,310 --> 01:23:59,260
nor did the population,
nor the army,
1435
01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:01,210
and certainly not
the politicians.
1436
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:08,350
There really was
an anxious moment.
1437
01:24:08,350 --> 01:24:11,500
War was inevitable.
1438
01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:14,950
It didn't go the way we
imagined it, because Hussein got
1439
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:16,350
involved in that vicious cycle.
1440
01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:23,500
We tried to convince Hussein
not to participate in the war.
1441
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:26,890
That was his mistake.
1442
01:24:26,890 --> 01:24:30,280
After Cairo radio stations
announced great victories,
1443
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,620
King Hussein's Jordanian
forces entered the war
1444
01:24:32,620 --> 01:24:34,100
and attacked West Jerusalem.
1445
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:42,010
If he hadn't intervened,
it would have been exactly
1446
01:24:42,010 --> 01:24:45,390
like the war of '56.
1447
01:24:45,390 --> 01:24:48,370
As soon as he intervened,
it became a global war
1448
01:24:48,370 --> 01:24:51,400
with all our
neighbors, resulting
1449
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,500
in the conquest of territory.
1450
01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:59,560
It wasn't in Israel's
interest to occupy the West
1451
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,770
Bank, because of its large
population and even less so,
1452
01:25:02,770 --> 01:25:04,310
Jerusalem.
1453
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:05,890
But the military has
declared it would
1454
01:25:05,890 --> 01:25:07,780
be possible to take
East Jerusalem,
1455
01:25:07,780 --> 01:25:11,140
and that in 1948, they'd made a
mistake in not keeping the Old
1456
01:25:11,140 --> 01:25:12,000
City.
1457
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,490
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1458
01:25:27,930 --> 01:25:33,750
In the West Bank, the
war that happened in 1967
1459
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:35,880
was not much of a war, really.
1460
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,170
As far as we were concerned,
the Israeli soldiers
1461
01:25:40,170 --> 01:25:42,420
literally walked through.
1462
01:25:42,420 --> 01:25:47,820
And there was very little,
if any, resistance.
1463
01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:53,120
The Palestinians were unarmed,
untrained for fighting.
1464
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,890
Moshe Dayan and
Yitzhak Rabin went
1465
01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:59,130
into the lanes of the Old
City and to the Wailing Wall.
1466
01:25:59,130 --> 01:26:02,460
Jerusalem had been cut
in two since the 1948 War
1467
01:26:02,460 --> 01:26:04,320
and the proclamation
of the state of Israel.
1468
01:26:08,170 --> 01:26:10,890
I know from several
sources that Dayan
1469
01:26:10,890 --> 01:26:13,800
wasn't keen on the idea
of conquering Jerusalem,
1470
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,680
but the pressure was too great.
1471
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,740
Moshe Dayan was convinced the
United States and the USSR
1472
01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:21,840
would insist the fighting
end, and that there
1473
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,550
would be a repeat of 1956,
stopping Israel in its tracks.
1474
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:29,820
He decided to advance into the
West Bank and the Syrian Golan
1475
01:26:29,820 --> 01:26:35,200
without the approval of military
headquarters or the government.
1476
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,960
We didn't plan on taking
the Golan Heights.
1477
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,640
But there was enormous pressure
from the army to do so,
1478
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,800
to end gunfire from the
heights onto villages.
1479
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,800
So they decided to
occupy the Golan.
1480
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,790
And at that moment, the war's
character completely changed,
1481
01:26:53,790 --> 01:26:55,320
and it became a general war.
1482
01:26:58,050 --> 01:27:00,810
On June the 10th at 6:00
PM, a general ceasefire
1483
01:27:00,810 --> 01:27:01,920
was proclaimed.
1484
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,140
Israel had complete victory.
1485
01:27:04,140 --> 01:27:06,450
On the same June the
10th, the 600 or so
1486
01:27:06,450 --> 01:27:08,340
Palestinian inhabitants
of the neighborhood
1487
01:27:08,340 --> 01:27:11,280
across from the war were
told they had to leave.
1488
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,520
The Esplanade would be raised
along with many Arab houses.
1489
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,390
On June the 18th, without
waiting for its legislature
1490
01:27:30,390 --> 01:27:34,560
to make a move, Israel annexed
71 square kilometers east
1491
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,500
of the city.
1492
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:37,170
Jerusalem was reunified.
1493
01:27:47,550 --> 01:27:52,000
The conquest of Jerusalem
wasn't required for defense.
1494
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,850
It was a romantic conquering.
1495
01:27:55,850 --> 01:27:59,390
And romanticism in politics
is something that's dangerous.
1496
01:28:05,710 --> 01:28:10,430
In six days, Israel had occupied
the West Bank, the Arab quarter
1497
01:28:10,430 --> 01:28:14,090
of Jerusalem, the Syrian
Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip,
1498
01:28:14,090 --> 01:28:15,860
and the Sinai up
to the Suez Canal.
1499
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,470
A million Arabs were now
under Israeli administration.
1500
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:25,400
And the Israeli state went
from 21,000 to 102,000
1501
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,970
square kilometers.
1502
01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:30,680
After the Battle
of Jerusalem, we
1503
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,140
were taken to see
the Wailing Wall.
1504
01:28:33,140 --> 01:28:35,210
And when I got to
the wall, I saw
1505
01:28:35,210 --> 01:28:38,300
people, all secular
like me, saying
1506
01:28:38,300 --> 01:28:39,920
that this was a sacred place.
1507
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:48,380
Sacred places didn't matter
much to the first Zionists.
1508
01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:49,580
And suddenly, this big shock.
1509
01:28:52,970 --> 01:28:54,530
We're back.
1510
01:28:54,530 --> 01:28:56,840
It belongs to us.
1511
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,740
It was so easy.
1512
01:28:59,740 --> 01:29:01,330
Only God could have
done this miracle.
1513
01:29:03,950 --> 01:29:06,920
We felt like the
Messiah had arrived.
1514
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,510
It attracted a lot
of young people
1515
01:29:08,510 --> 01:29:11,090
who were religious and
became nationalists
1516
01:29:11,090 --> 01:29:14,300
or even young people who
weren't religious to start with.
1517
01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:16,740
What's certain is that
all the religious people
1518
01:29:16,740 --> 01:29:17,810
became right wingers.
1519
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,240
This crushing victory would
change the course of history.
1520
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,090
Some saw it as a religious
experience-- messianic.
1521
01:29:35,190 --> 01:29:39,400
I remember that in spite of my
good communist upbringing, when
1522
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,120
they said the Old City of
Jerusalem had been conquered,
1523
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,740
I repeated and
used with emotion,
1524
01:29:46,740 --> 01:29:50,410
we've conquered the Old City.
1525
01:29:50,410 --> 01:29:53,200
I don't think I said liberated.
1526
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,480
I had been so brainwashed.
1527
01:29:55,480 --> 01:29:58,870
I participated in the
nationalist religious orgy
1528
01:29:58,870 --> 01:30:02,710
that broke out then, that
everyone participated in.
1529
01:30:02,710 --> 01:30:04,270
I was only 14.
1530
01:30:04,270 --> 01:30:06,160
I felt we had come
home, and that we
1531
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,050
had liberated the territories.
1532
01:30:08,050 --> 01:30:10,180
And the most dramatic
thing is that I don't
1533
01:30:10,180 --> 01:30:11,780
remember seeing even one Arab.
1534
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:20,890
There was a new
wave of refugees,
1535
01:30:20,890 --> 01:30:26,010
this time from the West Bank,
especially around Jordan.
1536
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:31,030
The refugees of '67
joined those from '48.
1537
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:37,220
150,000 people departed.
1538
01:30:37,220 --> 01:30:40,790
It magnified the problem
that was already there.
1539
01:31:59,340 --> 01:32:04,920
When I returned during
the summer of 1967,
1540
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,010
it was quite a shock
for me, since my house
1541
01:32:08,010 --> 01:32:13,680
was on the line separating East
Jerusalem from West Jerusalem.
1542
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,210
But that line wasn't
there when I returned.
1543
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,060
From the garden of my
house, I looked at Israel
1544
01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:29,460
as if it were another
world, a part of this world
1545
01:32:29,460 --> 01:32:32,460
that I didn't know,
except through the stories
1546
01:32:32,460 --> 01:32:35,400
my mother had told me.
1547
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,360
In '67, I was
already 16 years old.
1548
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:47,130
And I had no information
and no direct knowledge
1549
01:32:47,130 --> 01:32:50,340
of the part of Palestine
that became Israel.
1550
01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:54,780
Because after 1948, there
was a very stiff border.
1551
01:32:54,780 --> 01:32:57,700
And we were not able
to cross, of course.
1552
01:32:57,700 --> 01:33:01,320
No one thought it would
last such a long time.
1553
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,270
We thought it was temporary.
1554
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:05,820
The government had confirmed
that the territories
1555
01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:08,700
were their ace to play and
future peace negotiations.
1556
01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:13,170
We thought there
would be peace soon
1557
01:33:13,170 --> 01:33:17,040
and we would get along with the
inhabitants of Judea/Samaria.
1558
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,150
Since the Golan was empty,
Sinai as well, we'd get along.
1559
01:33:21,150 --> 01:33:23,460
And all would be well.
1560
01:33:23,460 --> 01:33:26,850
Levi Ashkol was the
first to say we'd
1561
01:33:26,850 --> 01:33:29,160
occupy the territories
for a short while,
1562
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,370
keeping them as a bargaining
chip in the negotiations
1563
01:33:32,370 --> 01:33:33,870
before returning them.
1564
01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:37,260
I don't think at all that
Levi Eshkol ever imagined
1565
01:33:37,260 --> 01:33:41,220
we'd be there for 50 years.
1566
01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:43,700
There was the feeling
that it would end quickly,
1567
01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:44,610
that it would change.
1568
01:33:44,610 --> 01:33:48,260
And things would soon
go back to normal.
1569
01:33:48,260 --> 01:33:50,500
And of course, we soon
understood it wouldn't.
1570
01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:56,950
On September the 1st, Arab
countries met in Khartoum
1571
01:33:56,950 --> 01:34:01,420
and signed a Solidarity
Charter after the Six-Day War.
1572
01:34:01,420 --> 01:34:03,550
It called for constant
war against Israel
1573
01:34:03,550 --> 01:34:06,070
to regain the
territories lost, using
1574
01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:08,860
Arab oil as a diplomatic
weapon and defending
1575
01:34:08,860 --> 01:34:12,540
the Palestinian people's rights.
1576
01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:16,420
Paragraph three of the charter
was noted as the three nos--
1577
01:34:16,420 --> 01:34:20,350
no to peace with Israel,
no to recognizing Israel,
1578
01:34:20,350 --> 01:34:21,970
and no to negotiations.
1579
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,290
The situation stalled.
1580
01:34:26,290 --> 01:34:27,940
Because there were
no Arab partners
1581
01:34:27,940 --> 01:34:30,830
during the negotiations,
otherwise the situation
1582
01:34:30,830 --> 01:34:32,200
might have been
resolved quickly.
1583
01:34:34,810 --> 01:34:39,320
Resistance to the occupation
didn't immediately start.
1584
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,730
Initially, the Palestinians
were in shock, traumatized,
1585
01:34:42,730 --> 01:34:44,140
paralyzed.
1586
01:34:44,140 --> 01:34:46,090
They didn't quite
know what to do.
1587
01:34:46,090 --> 01:34:48,520
Then we had the idea
of an enlightenment,
1588
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:53,420
liberal occupation as if such
a thing was ever possible.
1589
01:34:53,420 --> 01:34:56,740
Let's invent the concept
of a liberal occupation
1590
01:34:56,740 --> 01:34:59,660
and see what happens.
1591
01:34:59,660 --> 01:35:04,810
After '67, a messianic
Zionism with religious roots
1592
01:35:04,810 --> 01:35:08,620
flourished here, whose
goal wasn't the freedom
1593
01:35:08,620 --> 01:35:11,500
or independence of
the people of Israel,
1594
01:35:11,500 --> 01:35:13,060
but to bring the
Jewish people back
1595
01:35:13,060 --> 01:35:15,040
to the path of
their biblical past.
1596
01:35:19,420 --> 01:35:25,930
This new generation proclaimed,
we are the new pioneers.
1597
01:35:25,930 --> 01:35:27,640
However, their
motivations were different
1598
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,210
from the first pioneers
who were not religious.
1599
01:35:31,210 --> 01:35:35,500
But the old Zionists were tired
and viewed this new generation
1600
01:35:35,500 --> 01:35:41,470
with concern, but were rather
satisfied all the same.
1601
01:35:41,470 --> 01:35:45,340
There it's the new generation.
1602
01:35:45,340 --> 01:35:49,120
It left a vacuum where a
small, but very dynamic
1603
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,400
minority group of settlers
made a place for themselves
1604
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,210
and tried to force Israel
to stay in the territories
1605
01:35:55,210 --> 01:35:56,010
and annex them.
1606
01:35:59,140 --> 01:36:03,090
The first colonists appeared
during this transition phase.
1607
01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:06,000
A few dozen fanatic, religious,
nationalist militants
1608
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,420
saw the victory, especially the
liberation of the Wailing Wall,
1609
01:36:09,420 --> 01:36:12,900
as a miracle signifying
the return of the Messiah.
1610
01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:17,040
In March 1968, they created
the first colony near Hebron,
1611
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:18,710
led by the Rabbi Moshe Levinger.
1612
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:25,710
That's how everything started.
1613
01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:29,940
Shimon Peres was complicit with
the first wave of colonization,
1614
01:36:29,940 --> 01:36:32,700
given that there was a fairly
extremist wing in the Labor
1615
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:34,320
Party.
1616
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,170
Obviously, we should
have said from the start,
1617
01:36:37,170 --> 01:36:38,380
out of the question.
1618
01:36:38,380 --> 01:36:39,990
We didn't come here for that.
1619
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:41,010
We don't have the right.
1620
01:36:41,010 --> 01:36:43,260
International law forbids it.
1621
01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:44,380
There are strict rules.
1622
01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:54,170
Suddenly in '67, we became an
occupying colonialist society.
1623
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,360
That changes society.
1624
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,690
We couldn't behave in
the same way anymore.
1625
01:37:03,370 --> 01:37:07,060
It's at that point that
Israel really changed.
1626
01:37:07,060 --> 01:37:08,770
The government's
priority should have
1627
01:37:08,770 --> 01:37:10,720
been to make peace
with the Arabs,
1628
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,410
integrate into the region.
1629
01:37:12,410 --> 01:37:15,280
Finally, obtain peace.
1630
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,610
The Israel before
'67 and after '67
1631
01:37:18,610 --> 01:37:20,710
are two completely
different societies,
1632
01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,150
two different countries.
1633
01:37:22,150 --> 01:37:25,750
I didn't say two
different populations.
1634
01:37:25,750 --> 01:37:28,990
On the 4th of February
1969, Yasser Arafat
1635
01:37:28,990 --> 01:37:31,560
became president of the PLO.
1636
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,820
Israelis considered the
National Palestinian
1637
01:37:33,820 --> 01:37:37,660
Charter adopted in Cairo as
a true declaration of war.
1638
01:37:37,660 --> 01:37:40,120
Because it defined the
organization's goal
1639
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,240
to annihilate the state of
Israel through armed combat.
1640
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,970
Two weeks later, Prime
Minister Levi Eshkol
1641
01:37:45,970 --> 01:37:50,470
died in February 1969, struck
down by a heart attack.
1642
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:53,620
Golda Meir replaced
him as prime minister.
1643
01:37:53,620 --> 01:37:55,840
Known for her firmness
and inflexibility,
1644
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,580
she was Minister
for Foreign Affairs
1645
01:37:57,580 --> 01:37:59,750
under Ben-Gurion,
who said of her,
1646
01:37:59,750 --> 01:38:03,160
she is the only man
in my government.
1647
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,380
Golda Meir said a
lot of stupid things.
1648
01:38:05,380 --> 01:38:08,030
For example, the Palestinians
weren't a people.
1649
01:38:08,030 --> 01:38:35,610
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
1650
01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:38,760
The start of a
political blindness
1651
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,520
that grew more and more deeply.
1652
01:38:51,410 --> 01:38:54,840
At the beginning of the
1970s, the Occupation Forces
1653
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,110
started expelling Palestinians
from their land and building
1654
01:38:58,110 --> 01:39:00,180
colonies.
1655
01:39:00,180 --> 01:39:03,060
From then on, Israel managed
the occupied territories
1656
01:39:03,060 --> 01:39:06,210
directly and militarily.
1657
01:39:06,210 --> 01:39:10,060
All services were handled by the
military-- health, education,
1658
01:39:10,060 --> 01:39:11,910
agriculture, employment.
1659
01:39:20,050 --> 01:39:23,980
We slowly began to realize
what occupation would mean.
1660
01:39:23,980 --> 01:39:27,790
And then in time, we
realized that occupation
1661
01:39:27,790 --> 01:39:30,140
would mean, most
important of all,
1662
01:39:30,140 --> 01:39:33,220
that the land would
slowly be taken.
1663
01:39:33,220 --> 01:39:36,460
And Israeli settlements
would be built on it.
1664
01:39:36,460 --> 01:39:39,190
Those who think these people
will put up with the situation
1665
01:39:39,190 --> 01:39:41,170
much longer where
they're considered
1666
01:39:41,170 --> 01:39:45,520
second-class citizens
are much mistaken.
1667
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,420
Palestinians got used to
it, but for how much longer?
1668
01:39:53,020 --> 01:39:58,180
Suicide attacks have
destroyed the peace faction.
1669
01:39:58,180 --> 01:39:59,170
We've become mute.
1670
01:40:04,970 --> 01:40:07,720
It's hard to defend
peace when buses
1671
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:08,970
are blowing up in the streets.
1672
01:40:11,620 --> 01:40:13,300
The way the
Palestinians have chosen
1673
01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:16,270
to fight, the methods
they've chosen,
1674
01:40:16,270 --> 01:40:19,230
violence that leads
to nothing, or apathy
1675
01:40:19,230 --> 01:40:22,270
that leads to doing nothing.
1676
01:40:22,270 --> 01:40:24,190
They still have a lot
to learn so that they
1677
01:40:24,190 --> 01:40:26,920
can organize an
intelligent, effective fight
1678
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,090
against the occupation.
1679
01:40:31,780 --> 01:40:35,920
On the Palestinian side,
without saying so openly,
1680
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,640
many of our leaders have adapted
to the situation in which we
1681
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,160
find ourselves today.
1682
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:46,180
This extremely depressing,
disturbing, and deplorable
1683
01:40:46,180 --> 01:40:48,490
situation.
1684
01:40:48,490 --> 01:40:51,040
But our leaders are ready
to continue living this way.
1685
01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:57,640
Israeli society
thinks that if you
1686
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,920
don't talk about the
occupation, it doesn't exist.
1687
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,670
It's happening a half
hour from our home
1688
01:41:03,670 --> 01:41:06,650
and yet, most Israelis
have never been there.
1689
01:41:06,650 --> 01:41:08,650
They aren't interested
in what's going on there.
1690
01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:16,900
It's extremely difficult
to make things change,
1691
01:41:16,900 --> 01:41:18,970
to lift the veil that
the Israelis have
1692
01:41:18,970 --> 01:41:23,560
drawn over everything
about the occupation.
1693
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,860
We have negotiated
in vain for 25 years,
1694
01:41:26,860 --> 01:41:30,640
because colonization
has just kept on growing
1695
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,990
a quarter of a century.
1696
01:41:32,990 --> 01:41:35,620
And look at the result.
1697
01:41:35,620 --> 01:41:38,230
The only thing the
Israelis do is cover it up.
1698
01:41:38,230 --> 01:41:39,400
But, yes, yes, of course.
1699
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:40,340
We'll discuss it.
1700
01:41:40,340 --> 01:41:40,960
We will sign.
1701
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,120
We'll shake hands.
1702
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,800
All that so people won't notice
that the bulldozers continue
1703
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:45,580
to work.
1704
01:41:45,580 --> 01:41:50,430
There is no serious policy
on stopping the occupation.
1705
01:41:50,430 --> 01:41:53,850
According to Israeli statistics,
the Jewish colony population
1706
01:41:53,850 --> 01:41:57,660
in the West Bank continued to
increase by about 4% per year,
1707
01:41:57,660 --> 01:42:01,790
becoming about 400,000 people.
1708
01:42:01,790 --> 01:42:03,830
You can't talk
about the $400,000
1709
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:06,870
and not take into account
the 300,000 Jewish settlers
1710
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:08,030
in Jerusalem.
1711
01:42:08,030 --> 01:42:09,060
Sorry.
1712
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:11,190
The occupation of
East Jerusalem is
1713
01:42:11,190 --> 01:42:13,440
no different from
any other occupation.
1714
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:15,630
There are 700,000 settlers.
1715
01:42:15,630 --> 01:42:17,220
And there is no
government leader.
1716
01:42:17,220 --> 01:42:19,110
And there never will
be, who will decide
1717
01:42:19,110 --> 01:42:21,570
to evacuate 700,000 settlers.
1718
01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:22,980
That's the reason
why people like
1719
01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:26,010
me no longer believe in the
solution of two states side
1720
01:42:26,010 --> 01:42:27,820
by side.
1721
01:42:27,820 --> 01:42:31,350
The solution of two states
in the classic sense
1722
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:34,990
will never happen,
except by a miracle.
1723
01:42:34,990 --> 01:42:38,280
It's not just Elias Sanbar
or myself saying this.
1724
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:43,140
I think anyone who observes
what's going on can see that.
1725
01:42:43,140 --> 01:42:49,470
For years, we, myself included,
have asked the question,
1726
01:42:49,470 --> 01:42:52,460
does Israel really want peace?
1727
01:42:52,460 --> 01:42:55,650
And as talks and
meetings continue,
1728
01:42:55,650 --> 01:42:58,380
I started to understand
and ask myself
1729
01:42:58,380 --> 01:43:02,130
another question, which
is, can Israel make peace?
1730
01:43:04,890 --> 01:43:08,280
I don't think peace
is impossible.
1731
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,590
I'm afraid we won't want it.
1732
01:43:10,590 --> 01:43:13,170
And the more time passes,
the more complicated
1733
01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:18,250
it gets, until people will
say, we don't need it anymore.
1734
01:43:18,250 --> 01:43:20,580
When I joined the
resistance, I was 20.
1735
01:43:20,580 --> 01:43:21,760
I'm now 70.
1736
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,880
If I thought there was no
solution to this problem,
1737
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,310
why would I have kept hitting
my head against the wall?
1738
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:29,190
No conflict is eternal,
even though this one seems
1739
01:43:29,190 --> 01:43:30,770
to have lasted an eternity.
1740
01:43:30,770 --> 01:43:32,100
It's gone on for over a century.
1741
01:43:36,690 --> 01:43:39,390
Where I come from in East
Jerusalem, none of us
1742
01:43:39,390 --> 01:43:41,040
have citizenship.
1743
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,950
We don't have passports.
1744
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:46,770
We Palestinians-- we have
no citizenship anywhere.
1745
01:43:46,770 --> 01:43:48,480
I have no country.
1746
01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:49,770
I'm not Israeli.
1747
01:43:49,770 --> 01:43:51,030
I'm not Jordanian.
1748
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:52,230
I'm not Egyptian.
1749
01:43:52,230 --> 01:43:53,100
I'm not Tunisian.
1750
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:53,760
I'm not French.
1751
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,630
I'm not Italian.
1752
01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:56,500
I'm nothing.
1753
01:43:56,500 --> 01:43:59,450
Will I go back to
Palestine one day?
1754
01:43:59,450 --> 01:44:01,200
No, it's too late
for my generation.
1755
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:02,800
Too late.
1756
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,030
My Palestine no longer exists.
1757
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:10,200
We feel as though we have been
erased, that we never existed.
1758
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,280
We were kicked out.
1759
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,010
We were thrown out
of the borders.
1760
01:44:13,010 --> 01:44:14,790
And what happened, happened.
1761
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:16,170
No one can erase it.
1762
01:44:16,170 --> 01:44:16,770
It happened.
1763
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:23,580
Will wisdom and
moderation overcome
1764
01:44:23,580 --> 01:44:25,080
fanaticism and stupidity?
1765
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,440
I don't know.
1766
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:35,130
An historian, says Hegel,
is the prophet of the past.
1767
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:48,040
War starts when
diplomacy has failed.
1768
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,420
And it's time for weapons.
1769
01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:54,150
I've always viewed the
wars in Israel as a war
1770
01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:56,360
without end with a few pauses.
1771
01:45:02,500 --> 01:45:06,500
When you think about it, it's a
conflict that has never ended.
1772
01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:08,660
And the cycle sure
isn't over yet.
1773
01:45:14,810 --> 01:45:17,060
Knowing he was
ill, Theodor Herzl
1774
01:45:17,060 --> 01:45:20,090
had written a letter to
his successors, saying,
1775
01:45:20,090 --> 01:45:23,100
don't make mistakes
when I'm dead.
1776
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:27,200
He died in 1904, aged 44.
1777
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,900
Herzl had asked to be
buried in Palestine when
1778
01:45:29,900 --> 01:45:34,180
the Jewish people have founded
an independent state there.
1779
01:45:34,180 --> 01:45:36,620
45 years later on
August the 17th,
1780
01:45:36,620 --> 01:45:40,490
1949, he was buried at
Mount Herzl in Jerusalem,
1781
01:45:40,490 --> 01:45:43,430
along with his parents
and his sister, Pauline,
1782
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:46,070
but not his youngest
daughter, Trude Norman,
1783
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:48,580
who had died in the
Theresienstadt concentration
1784
01:45:48,580 --> 01:45:49,280
camp.
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