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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,390 --> 00:00:07,170 On November 29th, 1947, the 128th General Assembly 2 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:10,020 of the United Nations opened in New York. 3 00:00:10,020 --> 00:00:12,750 The Partition Plan for Palestine into two states-- one Jewish, 4 00:00:12,750 --> 00:00:15,390 one Arab-- was on the day's agenda. 5 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:17,940 For the resolution to pass, 2/3 of the 56 6 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:21,060 represented countries had to vote for it. 7 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:22,620 Most of the Jewish agency delegates 8 00:00:22,620 --> 00:00:24,240 had returned to Palestine, has no one 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,480 believed the resolution would pass the vote. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,210 Abba Eban, the liaison officer to the United Nations Committee 11 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:33,150 on Palestine was the only one who decided to stay. 12 00:00:33,150 --> 00:00:35,790 He believes the situation could change. 13 00:00:35,790 --> 00:00:37,320 "We took a map of the world. 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,640 We cut it up. 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,880 And we went for the delegations who were there. 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,590 But in spite of all our efforts, we still 17 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:45,330 needed three to four votes. 18 00:00:45,330 --> 00:00:48,000 We only had a few hours to change the situation. 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,980 Telegrams went all over the world. 20 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:51,960 Influential people were woken up at midnight 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,750 for what seemed to be impossible missions. 22 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:57,180 Everyone used their influence great or small 23 00:00:57,180 --> 00:00:59,640 in a desperate attempt to tip the scales in our favor," 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,570 said Abba Eban. 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,080 "We knew that France wanted to abstain. 26 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,370 I convinced Chaim Weizmann, the head of our delegation, 27 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:12,910 to contact Leon Blum, prime minister of the popular front 28 00:01:12,910 --> 00:01:17,080 and deputy head of the French government in 1937 and '38. 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,840 They had known each other for a while. 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,120 He sent a telegram to Blum which ended with these words, 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,940 "can France abstain, be absent at a moment 32 00:01:26,940 --> 00:01:29,430 that no one will forget and will be forever engraved 33 00:01:29,430 --> 00:01:31,560 in human memory?" 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,910 We will proceed the whole goal. 35 00:01:35,910 --> 00:01:40,570 You all know how to vote. 36 00:01:40,570 --> 00:01:44,200 Those who are in favor will say yes. 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,620 Those who are against, you will say no. 38 00:01:46,620 --> 00:01:50,740 And the abstainers always this, they know what to say. 39 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:56,630 And we will start it now. 40 00:02:09,420 --> 00:02:11,160 Alarmed by the rise of anti-Semitism 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,140 throughout Europe, and profoundly affected 42 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:16,200 by the Dreyfus affair, the young Austro-Hungarian journalist 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Theodor Herzl published the Jewish State in 1896. 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,190 In it, he wrote, "if you want it, 45 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:25,980 it doesn't have to be a dream. 46 00:02:25,980 --> 00:02:28,800 Just give us full autonomy over a sufficient piece of land 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,720 that would meet the needs of our people 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,280 and we'll take care of the rest." 49 00:02:39,940 --> 00:02:44,790 Herzl hoped that the moment the Jewish people had a country, 50 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:47,700 they would be a people like any other. 51 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:49,320 That everyone would treat them the same 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,580 they treated any other people and anti-Semitism would 53 00:02:53,580 --> 00:02:55,620 decrease a bit by bit. 54 00:02:55,620 --> 00:02:57,540 But he also wrote that anti-Semitism 55 00:02:57,540 --> 00:03:00,780 was so deep, so entrenched for so long 56 00:03:00,780 --> 00:03:04,810 that it was possible this hope would never come true. 57 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:06,390 And he could see no other solution 58 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:09,870 to anti-Semitism and exile but to create a state 59 00:03:09,870 --> 00:03:11,720 and live there. 60 00:03:14,940 --> 00:03:17,640 A year later, the first Congress of the Zionist Movement 61 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,160 was held in Basel with the goal of creating 62 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,700 a home for the Jewish people. 63 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:25,740 One of the participants remembers the meetings 64 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:26,940 conclusion. 65 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:29,850 Theodor Herzl was the secular black-bearded messiah 66 00:03:29,850 --> 00:03:32,700 who would lead us to the promised land. 67 00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:35,750 The excitement rose to engulf the public in the balcony. 68 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:37,920 Throughout the room, you could hear people shouting, 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,900 "next year in Jerusalem." 70 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:41,790 A year later, Herzl went to Egypt 71 00:03:41,790 --> 00:03:44,850 for the first and last time, then to Palestine. 72 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:48,720 In his diary, he wrote, "Jerusalem is magnificent. 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,820 The city of David in the moonlight is impressive." 74 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:00,310 It's a marvelous country, he describes, of course. 75 00:04:00,310 --> 00:04:03,800 Herzl describes the country he imagined, 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,550 a very liberal country, very European, very sophisticated, 77 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:13,160 with excellent relations between their different communities 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,620 and the different parts of society. 79 00:04:18,650 --> 00:04:24,560 When Herzl presented his Zionist project, all the conservative, 80 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,390 reformers, orthodox, rabbis were against Zionism. 81 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:32,000 This was the end of the 19th, century beginning of the 20th. 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,250 All of them. 83 00:04:35,250 --> 00:04:38,850 They perceived it as a sin, arguing that the diaspora was 84 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:41,370 a divine punishment. 85 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:44,910 And only God could allow Jewish people to return to sacred land 86 00:04:44,910 --> 00:04:46,810 with the coming of the Messiah. 87 00:04:46,810 --> 00:04:50,190 Herzl said you must separate religion from the state. 88 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:52,560 We shouldn't let the rabbis lead us. 89 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,150 They should stay in the synagogues 90 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:56,820 but they shouldn't tell us what to do. 91 00:04:56,820 --> 00:04:58,800 Zionism represented the desire to be 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 freed from the shackles of religion 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,570 and create a new human and a new society 94 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:06,840 in the country of Israel. 95 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,530 During the 7th International Zionist Congress in 1905, 96 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:13,260 Palestine was chosen to establish a Jewish homeland 97 00:05:13,260 --> 00:05:15,420 after considering Uganda and Argentina. 98 00:05:18,940 --> 00:05:23,910 It was the first Congress after Herzl's death a year earlier. 99 00:05:23,910 --> 00:05:26,040 One of the members, Yitzhak Epstein, 100 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,000 addressed The Tribune, "we forgot one small detail. 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,460 On that land we love, there is an entire nation 102 00:05:32,460 --> 00:05:34,320 that has been living on it for centuries 103 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,930 and has never considered leaving it. 104 00:05:36,930 --> 00:05:40,590 We are making a serious psychological mistake." 105 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:42,750 The president of the Union of British synagogues 106 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:45,960 had written to Herzl, "I tremble at the idea 107 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,810 of founding a tiny, tiny Jewish state that 108 00:05:48,810 --> 00:05:52,470 would become a ghetto." 109 00:05:52,470 --> 00:05:54,750 let 110 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:56,850 At the start of the century, the population 111 00:05:56,850 --> 00:06:00,170 consisted of tens of thousands of Jews 112 00:06:00,170 --> 00:06:06,070 and about 500,000 Arabs. 113 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:08,780 The Jews did not work the land. 114 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:10,790 Most of them were altered orthodox Jews 115 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:15,000 who lived on foreign donations or were shopkeepers. 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,060 They had small shops, that's it. 117 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:24,230 It was a small community, very religious, strong believers, 118 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:28,170 many in Jerusalem or other places like Hebron and Safed. 119 00:06:32,990 --> 00:06:35,570 There was no difference between the Jews and the Arabs. 120 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:42,470 In Jerusalem, for example, land and houses 121 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:46,160 were sold all the time, and were not an issue. 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,380 My parents who were living in Jaffa 123 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:52,610 had many friends amongst Jewish population 124 00:06:52,610 --> 00:06:54,350 of mandate Palestine. 125 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:57,050 These things at that time were natural. 126 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:58,670 There were not anything unusual. 127 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,730 I don't think there's any reason to deny. 128 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:08,090 It's obvious that Jews have lived on this land 129 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:11,330 and that they had a culture here that they had their roots here. 130 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,360 The pogroms in Russia increased the massive migration 131 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,750 of Jewish people, especially to the United States. 132 00:07:20,750 --> 00:07:23,180 A handful of young Zionist students from Ukraine 133 00:07:23,180 --> 00:07:24,800 decided to settle in Palestine. 134 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,010 One group arrived, bought land in Rishon LeZion 135 00:07:36,010 --> 00:07:36,950 and stayed there. 136 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:43,550 One of the strangest things is that the Jews have 137 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:47,750 said from the start that this is their land, 138 00:07:47,750 --> 00:07:50,720 and the Arabs heard that. 139 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,250 In fact, the moment the first Jew came here, 140 00:07:54,250 --> 00:07:55,850 the Arab-Jewish conflict began. 141 00:08:02,330 --> 00:08:05,450 From that viewpoint, the seeds of conflict 142 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:08,010 were there right from the start. 143 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,380 Young idealists came to farm the land. 144 00:08:15,380 --> 00:08:18,050 They tell themselves they would create an ideal settlement 145 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:20,330 in Israel. 146 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:23,870 We have texts from 1987-1908 that state 147 00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:25,880 this situation is an enormous project 148 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,320 to oust us from our own land. 149 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:34,250 The working conditions in this land, 150 00:08:34,250 --> 00:08:38,510 in places where they were far from everything led them 151 00:08:38,510 --> 00:08:43,430 to create a way of living where everything was shared. 152 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:46,030 And that way of living then led to the kibbutz concept. 153 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,960 The first kibbutz, a collectivist village, 154 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,600 was established in Palestine in 1909. 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,090 The founders were young idealists from Europe 156 00:08:56,090 --> 00:08:59,450 who wanted to create a new state by finding a new way of life. 157 00:09:03,140 --> 00:09:07,220 My grandfather worked in the mud to help dry up the marshes. 158 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:10,370 My grandmother broke rocks with a hammer. 159 00:09:10,370 --> 00:09:12,260 They lived under a tent for five years. 160 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:19,670 The rest of the world considered Palestine to be an abandoned, 161 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:23,790 entirely uninhabited territory. 162 00:09:23,790 --> 00:09:26,750 It was a desolate country filled with deserts and marshes. 163 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,270 You know that famous saying, the bride 164 00:09:33,270 --> 00:09:36,770 was beautiful but was already married, 165 00:09:36,770 --> 00:09:39,020 but they just couldn't bring themselves to admit that. 166 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:44,370 So they invented a slogan to justify and legitimize 167 00:09:44,370 --> 00:09:46,500 the project of their foreign community arriving 168 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:50,400 to settle in the local population's homeland. 169 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,160 And they told the whole world the famous slogan of a land 170 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,410 without people for a people without a land. 171 00:09:55,410 --> 00:09:58,350 It was the worst life. 172 00:09:58,350 --> 00:10:02,820 They claimed they transformed this land into a paradise. 173 00:10:02,820 --> 00:10:05,580 You know, it was totally desert. 174 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:07,550 It's a good thing we showed up. 175 00:10:07,550 --> 00:10:12,060 That story of a desert land dates from the 19th century. 176 00:10:12,060 --> 00:10:14,850 It dates from the time the European powers started 177 00:10:14,850 --> 00:10:19,290 to describe the sacred land as a devastated land that 178 00:10:19,290 --> 00:10:22,010 had to be brought back to life at any cost. 179 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:28,860 The Muslims weren't mistrustful before the Zionists arrived. 180 00:10:28,860 --> 00:10:32,040 They never imagined that one day this relationship between Jews 181 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,160 and Arabs would change into something that the Palestinians 182 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,330 would pay so dearly. 183 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Jewish settlement is partly responsible for deteriorating 184 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,770 relations between Arabs and Jews, 185 00:10:48,770 --> 00:10:51,260 given that the settlement had decided it 186 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:53,290 wouldn't use local Arab labor. 187 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,090 Under the impetus of the Zionist movement, 188 00:10:59,090 --> 00:11:02,720 more and more Jewish people bought land in Palestine. 189 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:08,030 Between 1908 and 1913, 11 new Jewish colonies were created. 190 00:11:08,030 --> 00:11:09,980 During this period, the first Zions 191 00:11:09,980 --> 00:11:13,730 of Arab opposition to the Zionist movement appeared. 192 00:11:13,730 --> 00:11:19,330 Some Arabs protested against the sale of lands to Jewish people. 193 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:21,560 All the Palestinian Arabs sell property 194 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:23,360 to the Jewish arrivals. 195 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,580 There are deeds of sale. 196 00:11:25,580 --> 00:11:27,200 Our relationship changed. 197 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,630 People started to sense that there was a problem here. 198 00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:33,350 How could an Arab live in peace with someone 199 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:36,680 who comes and first of all buys land 200 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:38,870 but wants to create a Jewish country? 201 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:41,260 Not Arab and Jewish, but a Jewish country. 202 00:11:46,050 --> 00:11:54,890 Tensions rose bit by bit with the waves of immigration 203 00:11:54,890 --> 00:11:57,440 when the Arabs sensed that the country was 204 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,850 slipping from their hands. 205 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,810 World War I would upset geography in the Middle East. 206 00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:07,730 On the loser's side, the Ottoman Empire 207 00:12:07,730 --> 00:12:10,670 was dismantled by peace treaties. 208 00:12:10,670 --> 00:12:12,710 With the exception of Turkey, Asia Minor 209 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:15,320 was now managed by Western powers. 210 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,940 The Sykes-Picot secret agreement, 211 00:12:16,940 --> 00:12:18,850 signed between France and Great Britain, 212 00:12:18,850 --> 00:12:20,890 assigned Palestine to the British. 213 00:12:20,890 --> 00:12:24,980 The British were responsible for making 214 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:27,560 it possible for the Israeli, for the Jewish people 215 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,660 to have a state in Palestine, not 216 00:12:29,660 --> 00:12:34,490 to speak of Balfour Declaration in which it also 217 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:39,410 promised the land to the Jews. 218 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:43,820 To guarantee a Western presence in the area, in November 1917, 219 00:12:43,820 --> 00:12:47,030 British Minister for Foreign Affairs Arthur James Balfour 220 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:50,030 wrote an open letter the Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, 221 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:53,930 one of the Zionist Movement's leaders. 222 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:56,660 He wrote, "His Majesty's government view with favor 223 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:59,120 the establishment in Palestine of a national home 224 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,060 for the Jewish people and will use their best endeavors 225 00:13:02,060 --> 00:13:04,500 to facilitate the achievement of this object, 226 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,460 it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which 227 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:10,340 may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing 228 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:14,090 non-Jewish communities in Palestine." 229 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:17,900 The Balfour Declaration of 1917 was the declaration 230 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:20,680 of a colonialist offering someone else a gift that 231 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:21,640 did not belong to them. 232 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:29,300 In 1917, just when the British government adopted the Zionist 233 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:32,030 project in order to create a national country for the Jews 234 00:13:32,030 --> 00:13:34,640 in Palestine, Palestinians represented 235 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,320 98% of the population. 236 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,100 The most reliable figure was from 1919 237 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:46,880 when the English took possession of this area. 238 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,550 For the first time, they conducted a very serious 239 00:13:49,550 --> 00:13:50,690 population census. 240 00:13:53,780 --> 00:14:02,090 In 1919, there were 700,000 Arabs and 70,000 Jews. 241 00:14:02,090 --> 00:14:03,620 Right from the start, the British 242 00:14:03,620 --> 00:14:07,040 were sharply aware that in order to stay a long time 243 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,680 they had to divide this up. 244 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:16,730 The first act the division was absolutely perverse. 245 00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:20,300 In the first census, they created categories 246 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:23,370 that didn't even exist. 247 00:14:23,370 --> 00:14:26,570 They created a Jewish category and they 248 00:14:26,570 --> 00:14:29,900 created an Arab category. 249 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:32,030 And it was always that. 250 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:34,990 In other words, let's make them fight each other 251 00:14:34,990 --> 00:14:36,420 and we will always be the referee. 252 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:42,860 With the rise of Arab nationalism, 253 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:44,900 the first anti-Jewish protests started 254 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:47,540 in March, April 1920 in Jerusalem, 255 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:50,990 then May 1921 in Jaffa and Tel Aviv. 256 00:14:50,990 --> 00:14:53,030 Over 50 people were killed. 257 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:54,860 Minister of Colonies Winston Churchill 258 00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:56,720 investigated the events. 259 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,150 Early in 1922, he published a white paper 260 00:14:59,150 --> 00:15:03,350 to clarify the British stance on Palestine. 261 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:05,630 In July 1922, the League of Nations 262 00:15:05,630 --> 00:15:07,880 gave Britain a mandate to prepare the creation 263 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,490 of a National Jewish home. 264 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:14,870 Between 1924 and 1928, more than 60,000 Jewish people 265 00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:16,440 arrived in Palestine. 266 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:21,490 On August the 20th, 1929, protests 267 00:15:21,490 --> 00:15:23,800 broke out between Jews and Muslims over access 268 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,560 to the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. 269 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,660 Two days later, rumors circulated 270 00:15:28,660 --> 00:15:31,080 about an imminent Jewish attack on the Al-Aqsa Mosque. 271 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Arab attacks against Jews started 272 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,440 in the old city of Jerusalem before spreading 273 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,770 throughout Palestine. 274 00:15:41,770 --> 00:15:48,180 67 Jews, including women and children were killed in Hebron. 275 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:50,010 Other massacres took place in Safed 276 00:15:50,010 --> 00:15:52,860 where 18 Jews were killed. 277 00:15:52,860 --> 00:15:58,050 During a week of protests, 133 Jews were killed by Arabs. 278 00:15:58,050 --> 00:16:00,960 A British report claimed, "these protests 279 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,450 are local expressions of animosity and hostility 280 00:16:03,450 --> 00:16:06,150 by Arabs against Jews because of the Arab's 281 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:08,400 frustrated political and national hopes. 282 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,040 The Nazi party rose to power in 1933 283 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,900 and started with the persecution of Jews 284 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:17,400 in Germany, then in Austria. 285 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:24,050 In 1933, Adolf Hitler and his Minister of Propaganda Joseph 286 00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:26,840 Goebbels organized the boycott of all businesses 287 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,060 owned by Jews. 288 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:30,800 The Jewish Agency signed an agreement 289 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,820 with the Third Reich minister of economy, 290 00:16:32,820 --> 00:16:35,720 which allowed German Jews to emigrate to Palestine, 291 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,910 provided they abandon most of their possessions 292 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:38,720 before leaving. 293 00:16:41,570 --> 00:16:43,730 The arrival of over 30,000 immigrants 294 00:16:43,730 --> 00:16:47,690 gave the economy a fresh boost. 295 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:50,240 The immigrants were intellectuals, scientists, 296 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,640 architects, and artists. 297 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,270 Many companies were started. 298 00:16:56,270 --> 00:16:59,210 The population of Tel Aviv founded in 1909 299 00:16:59,210 --> 00:17:03,250 tripled and now counted 150,000 inhabitants. 300 00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:06,470 The beaches and fashionable places were crowded. 301 00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:08,720 "Yesterday, a new elegant cafe opened 302 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,180 on the corner of Allenby and Bialik Streets, 303 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:14,000 worthy of the great European capitals," wrote the magazine 304 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,850 Haaretz. 305 00:17:16,850 --> 00:17:19,670 In 1935, David Ben-Gurion was elected 306 00:17:19,670 --> 00:17:21,800 president of the Jewish Agency. 307 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,960 He had arrived in Palestine in 1906 308 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,060 when he was 20, from a small town close to Warsaw, 309 00:17:27,060 --> 00:17:30,560 to participate in creating the new state. 310 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,020 He wanted a country for Jews immediately. 311 00:17:36,540 --> 00:17:41,100 His friends understood that it was going to take time. 312 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:42,960 In the same year, he was named head 313 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,270 of the Haganah, the armed group for the defense 314 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:47,850 of Palestinian Jews forbidden by the British. 315 00:17:52,830 --> 00:17:56,190 In April 1936, the Arabs called for a general strike 316 00:17:56,190 --> 00:17:58,020 throughout the country and demanded an end 317 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:02,490 to immigration and the sale of land to Jews. 318 00:18:02,490 --> 00:18:04,710 The Palestinian Arab opposition culminated 319 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:09,390 in the great revolt of 1936, protesting against both Zionism 320 00:18:09,390 --> 00:18:11,790 and the British presence in Palestine. 321 00:18:11,790 --> 00:18:14,070 Casualties from the riots were very high. 322 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:16,620 Several hundred Arabs were killed by the British 323 00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:20,490 and over 300 Jews also died. 324 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:22,770 The Arab high committee convened in October 325 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:25,470 under the general leadership of Amin al-Husseini, 326 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:27,000 grand mufti of Jerusalem. 327 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:35,040 The mufti was the leader of the Palestinian people. 328 00:18:37,740 --> 00:18:42,840 He was a horrible man whose nationalism was pro-Nazi. 329 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,510 Not just because the Nazis were the enemies of the British 330 00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:48,300 and the Jews, but also because he sympathized 331 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:51,720 with the Nazi ideology. 332 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,820 It was total blindness. 333 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:58,890 The mufti's mad idea of throwing himself into Hitler's arms 334 00:18:58,890 --> 00:18:59,490 in Berlin. 335 00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:05,100 The mufti went to Berlin and attempted 336 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:11,340 to create SS divisions, Muslim SS soldiers. 337 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:13,800 He wanted to create a unit with the German Army 338 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,090 to come to Palestine and fight the Jews there. 339 00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:21,990 The mufti didn't really have any authority in Germany. 340 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:25,290 Hitler didn't care about the mufti, 341 00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:26,580 but he linked up with Eichmann. 342 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:37,260 Eichmann, early on in 1936, directed the Jewish department 343 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:43,840 of the Gestapo in the SS and he was sent here 344 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,410 to learn about the enemy. 345 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:54,750 In other words, to learn Hebrew, the traditions, 346 00:19:54,750 --> 00:19:59,760 and then return to Germany and know what he was confronting, 347 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,090 so as to take care of it. 348 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:12,930 They were obsessed with learning exactly what a Jew really was. 349 00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:16,080 Eichmann and the mufti met together several times. 350 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,620 Eichmann spoke of it and the mufti wrote it in his memoirs. 351 00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:20,920 They had a common goal-- 352 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,990 to get rid of the Jews. 353 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:27,540 For a long time afterwards, we paid the price 354 00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:30,640 for the mufti of Jerusalem's crazy sidetracking. 355 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:36,390 The historian Hagai Horowitz would 356 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:40,290 write, "when the grand mufti of Jerusalem met with Hitler, 357 00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:43,200 it was a sign that the National Arab Movement's objectives had 358 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,420 changed. 359 00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:48,030 For the first time, everyone was aware of the danger 360 00:20:48,030 --> 00:20:49,860 that threatened our existence. 361 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:51,930 It was no longer imaginary. 362 00:20:51,930 --> 00:20:54,540 It was the blow that changed the nature of the conflict 363 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:58,110 and our combat strategy." 364 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:00,750 While Nazis proclaimed the Nuremberg laws and the lives 365 00:21:00,750 --> 00:21:03,190 of millions of Jews were threatened in Europe, 366 00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:06,360 the British blocked immigration routes to Palestine. 367 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,220 For those who wanted to flee the Reich, 368 00:21:08,220 --> 00:21:10,380 there weren't many alternative choices 369 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,660 because other nations were also closing their doors 370 00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:14,760 to Jewish people. 371 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,160 This was notably the case with the United States 372 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,440 where immigration quotas set by Congress 373 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,330 radically reduced the number of refugees 374 00:21:21,330 --> 00:21:23,470 from Germany and Austria. 375 00:21:23,470 --> 00:21:25,830 In July 1938, the Evian conference 376 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:28,770 convened to discuss how to help the German Jews 377 00:21:28,770 --> 00:21:31,140 but closed without reaching its objective. 378 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:32,970 None of the 32 countries present would 379 00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:37,470 agree to open their borders to persecuted Jews. 380 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:39,360 As war with Germany loomed, the British 381 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,900 organized the St. James conference in February 1939, 382 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:46,140 hoping to avoid an Arab-Axis alliance. 383 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:48,150 The conference brought Jews and Arabs together 384 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:50,430 for the first time but the Arab delegates 385 00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:55,500 refused to sit with the Jewish Agency representatives. 386 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,290 The British considered Palestine more than ever a ticking time 387 00:21:58,290 --> 00:21:59,610 bomb. 388 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:02,310 They published the White Paper with policies considerably 389 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:04,260 limiting the number of new immigrants 390 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:05,850 and resolutely confirming that they 391 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:08,420 had no intention of creating a Jewish state in Palestine. 392 00:22:17,550 --> 00:22:21,030 Adolf Hitler had just invaded Poland. 393 00:22:21,030 --> 00:22:23,670 World War II had just begun. 394 00:22:23,670 --> 00:22:25,950 Palestine lived in constant threat of an invasion 395 00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:30,000 by Rommel's German forces who were on the African continent. 396 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,390 Ben-Gurion declared, "we will help the British in the war 397 00:22:33,390 --> 00:22:35,790 as if there had not been a White Paper. 398 00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:37,590 And we will fight against the White Paper 399 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:40,660 as if there is no war." 400 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:43,380 The general staffs of the Haganah and the British Army 401 00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:45,690 agreed to create a force made up of Jews 402 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:47,940 in the British Army, whose mission would 403 00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:49,370 be to fight the Nazi forces. 404 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:56,290 As a child, my father spoke four languages 405 00:22:56,290 --> 00:23:00,880 and had a very well-developed political conscience. 406 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,520 His mother died just after the 1939 Nazi invasion. 407 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,790 He then convinced his father that there was no other place 408 00:23:08,790 --> 00:23:11,310 for Jews except Israel. 409 00:23:11,310 --> 00:23:13,260 For four months, they traveled in a boat 410 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:15,940 filled with illegal travelers. 411 00:23:15,940 --> 00:23:18,390 On board a boat that no country would allow it 412 00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:20,250 to dock at its ports-- 413 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:21,870 neither the English, nor Churchill, 414 00:23:21,870 --> 00:23:25,830 nor Roosevelt's America, nor any country in the world. 415 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:28,680 A small 12-year-old Jewish child would have nothing but the sea 416 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,210 beneath his feet. 417 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:35,160 Finally, they arrived here and the English arrested them. 418 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,080 People continue to arrive here, several thousand people. 419 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,300 And everyone told stories. 420 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:45,690 We thought the ghettos had been the worst possible thing 421 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:48,270 but we started to receive alarming information out 422 00:23:48,270 --> 00:23:49,630 of Poland. 423 00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:52,020 Hard tragic news started to come in, 424 00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:53,690 serial murders in many places. 425 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,290 They didn't believe it. 426 00:23:58,290 --> 00:24:01,410 People at first could not even conceive of it. 427 00:24:01,410 --> 00:24:04,530 They thought of the programs and of anti-Semitism. 428 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,460 It seemed to be so horrible that it could not possibly be true. 429 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,920 And bit by bit at year's end, we started 430 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,960 to get a harsh image of the events with appalling methods. 431 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,270 People buried alive, parents forced to bury their children. 432 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:26,120 And of course, gunshot executions 433 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,120 in front of the ditches. 434 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:35,580 In 1942, a telegram arrived here saying 435 00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:38,250 that Himmler had decided to kill by the end 436 00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:42,120 of the year between 3.5 and 4 million people 437 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,600 in suitable locations with a gas called hydrogen cyanide. 438 00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:52,140 That telegram seems so improbable 439 00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:53,350 that it remained in a drawer. 440 00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:57,350 A first group arrived and traveled 441 00:24:57,350 --> 00:25:00,030 around saying, "that's what's happening. 442 00:25:00,030 --> 00:25:00,620 It's all true. 443 00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:02,150 It's terrible." 444 00:25:02,150 --> 00:25:03,680 They're doing it methodically. 445 00:25:06,410 --> 00:25:08,930 How could you hear such a thing when your entire family 446 00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:10,280 was living in Europe? 447 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,430 It meant they had no more family, no more community. 448 00:25:16,730 --> 00:25:19,490 World War II ended, but the allied victory 449 00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:22,670 over Nazi Germany would not affect British policy. 450 00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:24,860 London still refused to allow escapees 451 00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:26,840 to emigrate to Palestine. 452 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,050 At the same time, 100,000 European Jewish survivors 453 00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:31,040 had nowhere to go. 454 00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,150 A third of the worldwide Jewish population 455 00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:39,080 had been assassinated in the gas chambers and in Nazi camps. 456 00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:47,770 It proved that the Zionists were right. 457 00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:50,850 A people without a country is a people 458 00:25:50,850 --> 00:25:56,700 that is led like beasts to the slaughterhouse, 459 00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,100 but also because the Holocaust survivors had 460 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,090 nowhere else to go. 461 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:09,600 There were so many Jews looking for a place to settle. 462 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Doors to the United States were closed and locked 463 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,220 so even if the Holocaust hadn't happened, 464 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,180 Jews would have come here you and in increasing numbers. 465 00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:29,680 Panama sent me to Europe after the Holocaust. 466 00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:35,970 And I met those who had survived, 467 00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:39,000 the remaining European Jews. 468 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,350 It was an enormous shock for me when I arrived over there. 469 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:47,190 One day, I joined some young adolescents 470 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:52,980 who wanted to emigrate covertly, going through Italy and France. 471 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:54,660 It was snowing. 472 00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:56,670 It was cold. 473 00:26:56,670 --> 00:26:59,490 I lived with them for an entire week. 474 00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:04,350 Every night, one of them would start screaming. 475 00:27:04,350 --> 00:27:07,320 They all had nightmares. 476 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,980 It was such a shock, a terrible shock. 477 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:24,630 It will stay with me for the rest of my life. 478 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:28,680 After the war, many survivors were distraught, disoriented. 479 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,410 In fact, most of them were because of how 480 00:27:31,410 --> 00:27:33,720 they had suffered terribly and the feeling 481 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,810 they were now alone in the world. 482 00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:39,390 People were experiencing such terrible trauma 483 00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:43,410 that no one was able to speak, no one could say what happened. 484 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:47,100 Most of these people had lost their entire family. 485 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,890 When we met a family with two sets of grandparents, 486 00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,770 we asked ourselves, how is this possible? 487 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:55,140 It sounded like the tales you would read in books. 488 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,670 It could not possibly be true. 489 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,710 I was born in September '46 in a Jewish refugee camp in Austria, 490 00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:06,540 near the city of Linz. 491 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:10,380 The first two years of my life, I spent them in those camps. 492 00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:13,190 I grew up there. 493 00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:17,090 From 1945, Jews who had escaped from concentration camps 494 00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:20,270 were herded into DP camps, Displaced Persons camps, 495 00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:22,040 in Germany and Austria. 496 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,160 Surrounded by barbed wire fences, treated in sensitively 497 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,370 by allied soldiers, they did not want to return to the countries 498 00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:30,710 where their families had been assassinated. 499 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:33,650 An American high official reported to President Truman, 500 00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:36,110 "the situation now is that we are treating the Jews 501 00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:39,260 like the Nazis did, except that we are not exterminating them." 502 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 The war was over but the Holocaust was not. 503 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,320 Because when the Jews started to return to Poland, Lithuania, 504 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,470 Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, to go back to their homes, 505 00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:56,160 they found they had been occupied by other people 506 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,690 and they were killed. 507 00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:59,880 In Poland alone, about 2,000 Jews 508 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,330 were killed between 1945 and 1946. 509 00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:05,730 People always refer to the Iasi Pogrom 510 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:07,740 but it was only one pogrom among many. 511 00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:19,200 We left Poland in the summer of 1946 after the Iasi Pogrom. 512 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,330 We could have gone to the United States 513 00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:23,250 but my mother said after the Holocaust 514 00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:27,090 we should go where Jews were living. 515 00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:29,640 We arrived on a Greek boat without authorization 516 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,950 from the British government. 517 00:29:31,950 --> 00:29:34,580 We have been given fake papers. 518 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:38,310 On the day we arrived, there was a curfew. 519 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,460 My mother said, "help, where have we landed? 520 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:42,990 What kind of a place is this?" 521 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,130 With Operation Igloo, the British 522 00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:53,830 transported all the Jews trying to reach Palestine to Cyprus. 523 00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:56,530 In their personal notes, they referred to this deportation 524 00:29:56,530 --> 00:29:59,530 more sensitively as transferring and moving 525 00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:01,910 to avoid alluding to previous concentration camp 526 00:30:01,910 --> 00:30:02,460 deportations. 527 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,950 As soon as the boats filled with refugees arrived 528 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:15,590 in the port of Haifa, the waiting British forces 529 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:19,110 evacuated them and transferred them to Cyprus in cage boats. 530 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:29,870 More than 50,000 Jews would go through these barbed wire 531 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:33,590 enclosed camps guarded by armed military men. 532 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:36,230 Most were Holocaust survivors. 533 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:40,370 Philosopher Hannah Arendt wrote, "the internment camps in Cyprus 534 00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:42,950 were only possible because the entire world thought 535 00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:44,720 it more humane than Auschwitz." 536 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,160 If we look closely at all the decisions Great Britain made 537 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,690 when they started blocking Jewish immigration, 538 00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:58,500 it wasn't because of fundamental political changes. 539 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:03,330 It was because they knew they were being ousted. 540 00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:08,260 In June 1946, the English began operation Agatha. 541 00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,060 During a search, they found documents 542 00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:13,960 proving that the Jewish Agency supported acts of sabotage. 543 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,060 They decided to hit hard. 544 00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:18,980 2,700 people were arrested. 545 00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:22,330 It was a heavy blow for the Zionists. 546 00:31:22,330 --> 00:31:24,520 One month later, the men of Lehi, 547 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,790 a Jewish paramilitary group, blew up the King David Hotel 548 00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:32,830 British Headquarters, killing 91 people. 549 00:31:32,830 --> 00:31:35,290 Paradoxically, this universally condemned 550 00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:39,760 act would move events along and play in the Zionists favor. 551 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,980 The British understood they would soon no longer 552 00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:44,530 be able to control Jewish organizations, which were 553 00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:46,270 increasingly better structured. 554 00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:50,340 Great Britain finally chose to retreat. 555 00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:54,880 Bit by bit, the confrontations increased, up to 1947, 556 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,190 when the situation completely degenerated. 557 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,350 Upon British request, the UN named 558 00:32:02,350 --> 00:32:06,820 an international investigation commission in April 1947. 559 00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:08,740 The final report recommended creating 560 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:11,290 a Jewish and an Arab state. 561 00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:13,540 Surprised by this decision, Great Britain 562 00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,590 refused this suggestion of sharing, 563 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:18,610 declared it would abandon its rule in six-month's time. 564 00:32:23,380 --> 00:32:27,040 There was no doubt the Holocaust had influenced a large part 565 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,620 of United Nation's members. 566 00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:35,770 And that the UN mission that came here and saw 567 00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:38,560 the Jewish refugee camps in Europe 568 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,530 decided after all that had happened 569 00:32:42,530 --> 00:32:43,990 the Jews should be given a country. 570 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,630 What the Palestinian leadership didn't see in 1948 571 00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:56,260 was that the Holocaust had taken place 572 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:59,320 and that the whole world was convinced that the victims 573 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,250 deserved reparation. 574 00:33:01,250 --> 00:33:04,690 And that fundamental reparation for the victim 575 00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:07,000 was the emergence of a Jewish state. 576 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,460 And that this was the only adequate solution 577 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:12,610 to the Nazi barbarism. 578 00:33:12,610 --> 00:33:14,170 While the commission was working, 579 00:33:14,170 --> 00:33:17,050 Mossad would attempt to force the British to open Palestine 580 00:33:17,050 --> 00:33:19,990 ports to Jews. 581 00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:25,460 It chartered an old boat named Exodus 1947 for the operation. 582 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:27,140 The boat arrived outside of Haifa 583 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:31,580 with 4,500 Jewish immigrants from central Europe. 584 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:35,030 Most of the passengers were Nazi death camp survivors. 585 00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:37,880 Rather than stagnate in displaced persons camps, 586 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,310 they had opted to join the network of clandestine trips 587 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:42,740 to Palestine. 588 00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:45,920 They thought they could finally set foot on the promised land, 589 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,010 but the Royal Navy boarded and searched the vessel. 590 00:33:49,010 --> 00:33:51,410 In the confusion, three passengers were killed 591 00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:54,350 and a hundred others wounded. 592 00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:58,040 There were terrible clashes during the entire journey. 593 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,590 We were expelled from Haifa, and then sent back 594 00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:02,900 to France, then Hamburg. 595 00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:08,830 This act shook world opinion. 596 00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:11,530 The British had to compromise with international opinion that 597 00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:13,660 favored resolving the Jewish problem 598 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:14,860 as peacefully as possible. 599 00:34:17,830 --> 00:34:22,510 At the UN, delegations got ready to vote for Palestine's future. 600 00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:24,970 David Ben-Gurion listened to the first results 601 00:34:24,970 --> 00:34:26,980 on the radio with Eleanor Roosevelt-- 602 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:30,550 the former president's widow beside him. 603 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:32,920 She had been influential in engaging the United 604 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,010 States in World War II and played a decisive role 605 00:34:36,010 --> 00:34:39,250 in creating the United Nations. 606 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,620 France remained quiet about its intentions. 607 00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:45,040 But Leon Blum, moved by Chaim Weizmann's telegram 608 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,190 promised to use all his influence. 609 00:34:48,190 --> 00:34:51,280 President Truman pressured reluctant state representatives 610 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,460 to vote in favor of partition. 611 00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,820 In return, the Philippines and Haiti would receive loans. 612 00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:04,750 The majority were to vote against the partition plan, 613 00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:07,690 but the Americans used Thanksgiving as a pretext 614 00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:09,820 to postpone the vote. 615 00:35:09,820 --> 00:35:13,600 They then came back with the support of two small countries, 616 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,720 we couldn't even pinpoint on the world 617 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,070 map, which the Americans had swayed 618 00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:20,170 during their national holiday. 619 00:35:20,170 --> 00:35:21,420 And the majority vote changed. 620 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:27,650 The Soviet minister for foreign affairs Andrei Gromyko 621 00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:30,520 surprised the Western world with an unexpected pro-Zionist 622 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,020 speech. 623 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:36,850 During the last war, the Jewish people 624 00:35:36,850 --> 00:35:40,270 underwent incredible suffering. 625 00:35:40,270 --> 00:35:44,020 This explains why the Jews want to establish their own state. 626 00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:48,400 And it would be unjust to refuse them that right. 627 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160 Andrei Gromyko made a speech in which he presented himself 628 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,630 as a Zionist. 629 00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:55,360 For years, they pursued Zionists and locked them up in Gulags. 630 00:35:58,030 --> 00:36:02,080 Gromyko's speech had nothing to do with what was happening. 631 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,750 Soviet diplomacy has never had a reputation 632 00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:06,730 for being sentimental. 633 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:08,890 Everything boils down to interests. 634 00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:11,110 The Soviet Union wanted to replace the British 635 00:36:11,110 --> 00:36:12,310 in the Middle East. 636 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:14,140 It knew that the English would be forced out 637 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:16,660 and wanted to be the first before the United States could 638 00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:17,800 steal their place. 639 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,980 Soviet Union, yes. 640 00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:25,280 United Kingdom, abstain. 641 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,440 France, yes. 642 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,930 The resolution of the Committee for Palestine 643 00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:38,890 was adopted by 33 votes, 13 against, 10 abstentions. 644 00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:50,200 [APPLAUSE] 645 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,500 The majority vote we got during the decision on partition 646 00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:58,830 in November 1947, we never could have got it. 647 00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:02,500 And even then, it wasn't simple. 648 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,020 It is said that the United Nation's decision ensued 649 00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:07,060 because the Westerners had a guilty conscience 650 00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:08,380 about the Holocaust. 651 00:37:08,380 --> 00:37:11,050 Excuse me, but where was your conscience before that? 652 00:37:11,050 --> 00:37:14,920 All of a sudden, they had a guilty conscience. 653 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,100 It's one of the country's great paradoxes. 654 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,040 It was founded after the worst tragedy in the history 655 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,370 of the Jewish people. 656 00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:26,950 The UN resolution proposed dividing Palestine 657 00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:28,060 into two states-- 658 00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:29,980 one Jewish, and the other Arab-- 659 00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:32,830 with Jerusalem under international control. 660 00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:35,500 But most Palestinian Arabs and all the Arab states 661 00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:38,690 rejected this plan and any division of Palestine. 662 00:37:41,850 --> 00:37:43,860 Did the Palestinians make a mistake 663 00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:45,900 by not accepting partition? 664 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,390 Does that suggest how fanatic they were practically 665 00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:49,040 from birth? 666 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,830 Opposing the UN vote on partitioning Palestine 667 00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:59,520 was a mistake for the Arabs. 668 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,350 Without a doubt, in retrospect, we 669 00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:04,320 can say today that it was a mistake and not just what 670 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,960 had happened in 1947. 671 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,030 From their viewpoint, it wasn't a mistake. 672 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:11,410 They weren't at all ready to accept a Jewish country. 673 00:38:11,410 --> 00:38:13,020 To live next to a Jewish country? 674 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,600 Certainly not. 675 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,360 All of Israel's attempts to split into two countries 676 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,550 failed because of the Palestinians. 677 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,410 They simply didn't see why they should give up 678 00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:27,870 half of their homeland. 679 00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:29,440 They couldn't comprehend it. 680 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,940 Why? 681 00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:35,850 If the Arabs had said yes at that moment, 682 00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:37,560 would things really have been headed 683 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,580 towards a better situation or not? 684 00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:44,310 Would the Israelis or the Jews have really accepted 685 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:44,990 those things? 686 00:38:51,090 --> 00:38:54,180 The day of the UN declaration, I was 687 00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,420 very young and already asleep. 688 00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:58,980 I remember my mother came in to wake 689 00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:01,420 me up so I would remember the day the state of Israel 690 00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:01,920 was created. 691 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,180 She said, "they gave a state to the Jews." 692 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,600 David Ben-Gurion didn't hide his concerns from Shimon Peres, 693 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,760 in charge of purchasing weapons. 694 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,600 "Today, the people are dancing, but tomorrow blood will flow." 695 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,720 I thought he was exaggerating, but the party ended and indeed 696 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,290 blood did begin to flow. 697 00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:28,200 My father used to say to me that the day the vote would 698 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,160 be recognized and announced, a war was sure to follow. 699 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,740 Israel was born in war. 700 00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:42,220 People danced all night on November the 29th. 701 00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:45,360 And the last dances, the next morning, 702 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,650 saw the first ones killed. 703 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,000 We were told, return quickly to Tel Aviv. 704 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,540 There are already some dead in Ramla. 705 00:39:57,150 --> 00:40:00,120 The first war started with partition. 706 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,260 A war between the Haganah and the Palestinians, 707 00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,920 which was, in fact, the first in the Israeli-Palestinian 708 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,720 conflict. 709 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,340 What happened was the Palestinians 710 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:14,250 did not accept the decision and they started a war. 711 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,650 The Arabs launched terrorist attacks. 712 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:22,950 Bombs exploded in cities and roads were mined. 713 00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:25,650 In Jerusalem, a triple-pronged car bomb attack 714 00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:28,890 targeted the offices of the Palestinian post, the Benyehuda 715 00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:31,950 Road Market and the Jewish Agency offices. 716 00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:34,110 A hundred Jews were killed. 717 00:40:34,110 --> 00:40:37,440 In Haifa, members of Irgun, the paramilitary organization 718 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,090 that broke away from the Haganah, 719 00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:41,680 threw two bombs into a group of Arab workers, 720 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,200 killing six of them. 721 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,620 In retaliation, the angry crowd killed 39 Jews 722 00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:49,530 before British soldiers could reestablish order. 723 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:52,710 The Dalet Plan was developed in March 1948. 724 00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:54,450 It gave Haganah the responsibility 725 00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:57,030 for keeping order and authorized it to start 726 00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:58,800 expelling Palestinians. 727 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,740 Ben-Gurion planned to implement the plan around May the 15th 728 00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:03,350 when the British would leave. 729 00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:05,760 But due to the military reality on the ground, 730 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,350 the Haganah went on the offensive 731 00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:10,740 and put the plan into action almost straight-away in April. 732 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,770 The Haganah did all they could to pressure them, 733 00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:16,920 to scare them, so that they would leave. 734 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,370 With gunshots in the night and jeeps or vehicles passing, 735 00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:23,330 they got scared. 736 00:41:23,330 --> 00:41:25,890 The question of evacuating places and settling 737 00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:29,170 in replacements constantly came up. 738 00:41:29,170 --> 00:41:32,380 So there was already a very clear policy in action. 739 00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,860 We also have all the operational plans 740 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,750 carried out by the military units 741 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:40,290 and the Jewish army, which was the Haganah back then. 742 00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,900 And they were all aimed at evacuating land. 743 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:48,790 When my parents got here, they were offered some housing. 744 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:50,400 A house in Jerusalem that belonged 745 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,300 to Palestinians who had fled. 746 00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:56,380 And both of them turned it down. 747 00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:57,720 They found it bizarre. 748 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,960 They said, "we ourselves are refugees too. 749 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,860 How could we take someone else's house?" 750 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:06,720 Several killings took place to make 751 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,840 people understand that if they didn't leave, they face death. 752 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,650 However, if they left, their lives would be spared. 753 00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:17,520 Remember, the Deir Yassin happened in March '48 754 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,480 and will cause a panic. 755 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,280 Deir Yassin was a small Arab village 756 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,940 of 600 people located five kilometers from Jerusalem. 757 00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:29,970 It had no strategic importance and was not one of the villages 758 00:42:29,970 --> 00:42:31,770 targeted for take-over. 759 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:35,310 Yet in spite of Haganah leader reticence, the Irgun and Lehi-- 760 00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:37,740 two paramilitary groups-- attacked the village 761 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:40,990 on the morning of April the 9th. 762 00:42:40,990 --> 00:42:42,690 But the operation was ill-prepared 763 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:45,120 and the Palestinians surprised them with their resistance, 764 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,480 killing five including several officers. 765 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680 The Irgun and Lehi men then took houses one by one, 766 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,520 blowing up several of them. 767 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,490 There were nearly 200 victims in the massacre. 768 00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:11,730 They created conditions and planned operations 769 00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:13,950 calculated to scare people and make them flee. 770 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:19,200 As well as the murders and the massacres, 771 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,280 they did like in the village of Deir Yassin. 772 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,530 In other villages and cities like in Lod, 773 00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:30,760 people had fled, looking for protection to stay alive. 774 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,360 About Deir Yassin, everybody heard about Deir Yassin, 775 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,310 and everybody's mind began to be that if we stay and we have 776 00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:42,720 these Jewish forces come, they will also massacre us 777 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,810 as they did in Deir Yassin, so we better not stay and get 778 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:46,860 massacred. 779 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:50,130 People were terrorized of the rumors of Deir Yassin. 780 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,920 People were convinced Zionists would come to kill us all. 781 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,900 We know very well Zionists had never 782 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,060 had that intention but to make the largest 783 00:43:57,060 --> 00:43:59,000 number of people flee, yes. 784 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,380 Deir Yassin was early on and it was 785 00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:06,990 used as a psychological warfare in convincing many more 786 00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:12,900 Arabs and frightening many more Arabs into fleeing their homes. 787 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:17,370 In the memoirs of the first American ambassador to Israel, 788 00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:23,160 information about Deir Yassin was still fresh. 789 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,600 In a conversation he had with Weizmann, the pacifist, 790 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,780 he said the killings were unnecessary. 791 00:44:31,780 --> 00:44:39,000 Weizmann pronounced this was spine-chilling phrase, 792 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,450 "this massacre has been a miraculous simplification 793 00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:43,680 of Israel's tasks. 794 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:50,670 It has convinced the most stubborn among them to leave." 795 00:44:53,310 --> 00:44:55,260 They taught our children that, well, it's 796 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:58,390 sad that they died but it's not that important. 797 00:44:58,390 --> 00:45:01,590 What's important is that we have a country. 798 00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:04,590 On May the 14th, 1948, a jubilant crowd 799 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:06,750 marched through Tel Aviv bearing flags 800 00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:08,700 adorned with the Star of David. 801 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,980 In Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem was surrounded 802 00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:13,110 and inaccessible, Ben-Gurion stood 803 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:15,150 under a portrait of Theodor Herzl 804 00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:17,250 and announced in a firm voice, "we 805 00:45:17,250 --> 00:45:19,380 proclaimed the founding of the Jewish state 806 00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:21,090 which will be called Israel. 807 00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,370 We extend our hand to all neighboring states 808 00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:27,900 and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighborliness. 809 00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,900 There is enough room in this country for us and the Arabs." 810 00:45:34,060 --> 00:45:37,240 The state of Israel was born, the dream had become reality. 811 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,900 But the high Arab council immediately 812 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,650 declared, "Arabs solemnly declare before God and history 813 00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:52,140 that they will never submit to such a power coming 814 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,710 to Palestine to impose partition." 815 00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:03,780 Great Britain's tenure officially came to an end 816 00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:05,040 and their troops went home. 817 00:46:07,830 --> 00:46:11,130 The British commander gave back command of Palestinian lands 818 00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:12,360 to Zionist leaders. 819 00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:22,200 I was so excited that I couldn't sleep for several nights. 820 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,120 Tel Aviv minus the English. 821 00:46:29,070 --> 00:46:31,680 They had left the country but they 822 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,170 left the Arabs many weapons. 823 00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:40,190 The English were anti Zionists from the start. 824 00:46:40,190 --> 00:46:45,020 They didn't believe that Israel, which was born in blood, 825 00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:47,120 could stand up to all the Arab armies. 826 00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:57,200 Most diplomats and world leaders, 827 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:04,250 and even some of the Zionist leaders here, 828 00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:08,660 had serious doubts that the new state 829 00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:12,080 could hold up against attacks from Arab armies. 830 00:47:16,190 --> 00:47:18,020 Armies from neighboring Arab states 831 00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,930 invaded the areas of the old Palestinian mandate. 832 00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:23,930 The first Arab-Israeli war had started. 833 00:47:23,930 --> 00:47:27,410 Egyptian planes bombed Tel Aviv. 834 00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:29,120 Less than three years after liberation 835 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,940 from concentration camps, the great majority of Jews 836 00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:36,620 felt they were continuing their fight to survive. 837 00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:39,200 It's true that declaring war when you're not even ready 838 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600 is indeed a mistake. 839 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,360 It should be remembered that it was the Arab side who 840 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,290 started the war and lost. 841 00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:48,770 Should Israel have behaved in a better way? 842 00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:50,090 Yes. 843 00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:52,100 There were constant announcements. 844 00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,080 If you leave by the Haifa coastal route 845 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,690 Haifa which is what we did, you won't risk your life. 846 00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:58,850 You can escape easily. 847 00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:00,410 They were put into trucks. 848 00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:03,860 Between Haifa and Tel Aviv, nearly all the inhabitants 849 00:48:03,860 --> 00:48:05,480 of the villages were expelled. 850 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,190 People felt endangered and didn't feel safe to stay. 851 00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:13,360 And they all thought as was the case with my parents 852 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,470 in Jaffa that they would leave and be safe 853 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:20,210 as people do in wars. 854 00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:23,060 And then after the war is over, they would be able to return. 855 00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:26,720 But they were never able to return. 856 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,480 My father made sure my mother and I were 857 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,530 evacuated a few weeks earlier. 858 00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:38,270 In a truck full of women and children who they literally 859 00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:40,820 dumped at the South Lebanese border. 860 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:48,350 When the town fell, my father and sister went to the port 861 00:48:48,350 --> 00:48:51,050 and got on one of the last boats sailing out, 862 00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:53,570 which they were lucky to get on, and that's 863 00:48:53,570 --> 00:48:56,990 how they arrived in exile in Lebanon crossing the sea. 864 00:48:59,930 --> 00:49:01,460 Someone who lived through the Nakba 865 00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:03,770 told me, when leaving, we found boats 866 00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:06,790 that were waiting for us to leave on the beaches of Jaffa. 867 00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:08,450 Did those boats come by themselves? 868 00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:10,490 No, it wasn't just chance. 869 00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:11,990 Those boats were made ready to force 870 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,990 people to flee or emigrate. 871 00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:17,790 People didn't leave by themselves. 872 00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:22,340 No one leaves their house, their fields, their land voluntarily. 873 00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:26,480 In times of war, people are afraid and they flee. 874 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,130 They hope that when the war is over, 875 00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:31,370 they will come back, especially farmers, back to their land, 876 00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:32,040 in their houses. 877 00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:38,990 The Arab leaders said to them, "leave, we will win 878 00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:41,330 and you can come back later. 879 00:49:41,330 --> 00:49:46,580 We'll get our property and our land back because we will win." 880 00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:49,310 Someone who flees their home has no right to come back to it. 881 00:49:49,310 --> 00:49:51,650 The crime was not letting them come back. 882 00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:53,400 During wartime, people flee. 883 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,140 They move. 884 00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:55,650 All kinds of things happen. 885 00:49:55,650 --> 00:49:58,280 But why did we shoot at them when they tried to come back? 886 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,880 In July, long after-- a few months after the establishment 887 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,730 of the Israeli state which was in May-- 888 00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:08,540 in July at gunpoint, people were forced out of their home. 889 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,810 Nearly 750,000 Palestinians had been expelled before, 890 00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:20,600 during, and after 1948. 891 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,920 Following a series of operations interspersed by truces, 892 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,750 the Israeli military forces were winning on all fronts 893 00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:28,850 except for Jerusalem, which was split 894 00:50:28,850 --> 00:50:31,040 in half by the armistice line leaving 895 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,350 the old town to the Arabs. 896 00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:37,070 The Jewish population was chased out by the Jordanian forces. 897 00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:39,890 The West Bank was annexed by the Kingdom of Jordan, 898 00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:42,680 and the Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt. 899 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,500 Palestine disappeared from official maps. 900 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:49,490 By winning the war, Israel conquered 26% more territory 901 00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:51,590 than the partition plan provided for, 902 00:50:51,590 --> 00:50:57,860 taking control of 81% of Palestine in 1947. 903 00:50:57,860 --> 00:50:59,570 After the war, Israel would settle 904 00:50:59,570 --> 00:51:01,520 on the lands it had conquered. 905 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,590 Part of these lands were state land 906 00:51:03,590 --> 00:51:05,750 but another part were lands from Arab villages 907 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:07,230 which were nationalized. 908 00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:08,210 I can't ignore it. 909 00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:10,620 It's a fact of history. 910 00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:16,010 10% of the Palestinians lands were purchased up to 1947. 911 00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:19,950 Only 10%, barely 10%. 912 00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:23,840 The rest of the land was annexed, seized after 1948 913 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,620 after the war. 914 00:51:28,190 --> 00:51:30,560 Out of the 900,000 Palestinian Arabs 915 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,340 living in territories now controlled by Israel, 916 00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:38,270 nearly 750,000 left during the war of 1948. 917 00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:41,180 Only 150,000 Palestinians were left, 918 00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:44,600 subject to Israeli military administration. 919 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,660 The international community carefully ignored the refugees 920 00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:49,700 as they drifted with no place to go. 921 00:51:53,660 --> 00:51:58,970 Add to that, in 1948 there were millions of displaced people 922 00:51:58,970 --> 00:52:01,040 all over Europe. 923 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,360 So 800,000 Palestinians or natives, as we 924 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,690 were called back then. 925 00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:10,790 Where is the problem? 926 00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:24,690 As soon as the state of Israel was created, 927 00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:26,430 the British laws limiting immigration 928 00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:29,000 were abolished, opening the doors wide to all Jews. 929 00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:35,190 The Law of Return established the right 930 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:37,670 of every Jew to become an Israeli citizen by immigrating 931 00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:38,500 to the country. 932 00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:44,350 It was the start of a huge immigration 933 00:54:44,350 --> 00:54:48,420 from Europe, a true tidal wave. 934 00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:53,290 More than half were survivors of the Holocaust. 935 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,880 During the first six months after independence, 936 00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,520 100,000 immigrants landed in Israel and more than 250,000 937 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,600 in 1949, increasing the country's population by 50%. 938 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,210 These new immigrants coming from all over the world 939 00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:11,230 were strangers to each other and spoke an incalculable number 940 00:55:11,230 --> 00:55:12,740 of different languages. 941 00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:15,760 The priority was then to integrate these hundreds 942 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,380 of thousands of immigrants. 943 00:55:29,620 --> 00:55:32,140 We came here in boats. 944 00:55:32,140 --> 00:55:35,050 I was a little over six years old. 945 00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:37,290 We came from Buenos Aires in Argentina. 946 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,440 For us children, it was a marvelous adventure. 947 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640 We felt like it was a new life, a new name, 948 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,710 a new place where we had to start everything over. 949 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,620 It was very hard, but it was a wonderful feeling. 950 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,110 During a spectacular operation named Operation Magic Carpet, 951 00:56:06,110 --> 00:56:08,210 over 45,000 immigrants from Yemen 952 00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:11,960 were brought to Israel on three flights a day. 953 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,460 The Yemenite Jewish community was 954 00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:16,460 one of the oldest in the Arab peninsula. 955 00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:20,090 In 1947, soon after the UN vote, violent protests 956 00:56:20,090 --> 00:56:22,970 against the Jews killed 82 people with stores 957 00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:26,480 sacked and destroyed and synagogues burned. 958 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,330 Ben-Gurion declared in front of the Knesset, 959 00:56:29,330 --> 00:56:32,840 our goal is to acclimatize the Yemenites to Israeli values, 960 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,510 until they forget where they came from, just as I 961 00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:38,390 had forgotten I was Polish. 962 00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:40,820 For my grandmother who was a Marxist, 963 00:56:40,820 --> 00:56:44,000 they weren't even primitives, but proto-primitives. 964 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,100 On the other hand, for the Yemenites, 965 00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:49,300 my grandmother wasn't even Jewish. 966 00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:52,100 An article published in the newspaper, Haaretz, 967 00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:54,410 stated, "These immigrants from Yemen 968 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:57,050 are at a level below Palestinians. 969 00:56:57,050 --> 00:56:58,760 It will take generations to get them out 970 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,590 of the medieval pit they live in." 971 00:57:02,590 --> 00:57:05,440 Faced with a wave of immigration and a lack of resources, 972 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,870 the Ben-Gurion government implemented an austerity 973 00:57:07,870 --> 00:57:10,480 program and food rationing. 974 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,630 Thousands of Israelis protested for bread and work 975 00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:15,730 and sacked the offices of the Jewish Agency, 976 00:57:15,730 --> 00:57:17,200 demanding work and lodging. 977 00:57:22,990 --> 00:57:26,590 The population had doubled, but not the resources. 978 00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:29,800 There was nothing, only ration tickets. 979 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,810 We had nothing left to eat. 980 00:57:31,810 --> 00:57:34,390 There was almost no food. 981 00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:37,580 At the end of 1951, nothing was left. 982 00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:40,040 It was the German reparations money that would save us. 983 00:57:42,970 --> 00:57:49,110 Ben-Gurion understood he needed the German reparations, 984 00:57:49,110 --> 00:57:52,850 since the Israeli economy was dying. 985 00:57:52,850 --> 00:57:57,360 And without that money, he couldn't accomplish much. 986 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,970 Menachem Begin, ghetto survivors, and even 987 00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:01,530 the left wing said, what? 988 00:58:01,530 --> 00:58:02,650 German money? 989 00:58:02,650 --> 00:58:03,750 You'll have to kill us. 990 00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:05,280 We really were starting to die. 991 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,850 Begin was opposed to this answer, which 992 00:58:11,850 --> 00:58:16,680 he viewed as a blood ransom, dirty money, 993 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,800 money exchanged for the blood of Jews. 994 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,400 And he organized demonstrations throughout the country, 995 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,700 especially Jerusalem. 996 00:58:30,130 --> 00:58:32,410 People lived in shacks. 997 00:58:32,410 --> 00:58:34,170 There was austerity. 998 00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:35,700 Petro was getting low. 999 00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,280 Gas, money. 1000 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,860 We were crumbling. 1001 00:58:38,860 --> 00:58:42,180 So if Germans were paying, why not? 1002 00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:43,980 One Israeli in four was a survivor 1003 00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:47,430 of the Holocaust in the 1950s. 1004 00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:51,020 My people cannot forget its past. 1005 00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:54,820 But Germany of today is not the Germany of yesterday. 1006 00:58:54,820 --> 00:59:04,680 (NON-ENGLISH SINGING) 1007 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,090 You have to understand people's state of mind after the war. 1008 00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:11,220 The intense hate they had against Germans 1009 00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:13,770 continued in Israel. 1010 00:59:13,770 --> 00:59:17,130 When I go to Israel and we received an Israeli passport, 1011 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:19,760 inside it was written, "valid for all countries 1012 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,430 except Germany." 1013 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,650 Speaking German was forbidden. 1014 00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:34,890 In the following years, the situation 1015 00:59:34,890 --> 00:59:37,050 for Jews in Arab and Muslim countries 1016 00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:39,900 worsened after demonstrations and openly anti-Semitic 1017 00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:42,210 policies. 1018 00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:44,670 The main objective for members of the Jewish communities 1019 00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:48,090 in the Arab world, over 850,000 people, 1020 00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:49,860 was to flee those countries, leaving 1021 00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:52,410 behind their possessions. 1022 00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:56,140 Among them, 600,000 sought refuge in Israel. 1023 00:59:56,140 --> 00:59:58,510 The president of the Jewish Agency executive branch 1024 00:59:58,510 --> 01:00:01,960 declared, we should bring all Sephardic Jews here 1025 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,020 to save them, but also to acquire the manpower we 1026 01:00:05,020 --> 01:00:06,400 need to build the country. 1027 01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:14,560 Ben-Gurion wanted to bring every Jew over here. 1028 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,860 They told him, listen, our economy will collapse. 1029 01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:19,720 It's impossible. 1030 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,340 We can't increase our population in three years. 1031 01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:26,350 But Ben-Gurion wouldn't listen and ordered 1032 01:00:26,350 --> 01:00:30,130 all Jews to be brought over. 1033 01:00:30,130 --> 01:00:34,930 830,000 Jews had been expelled from Arab countries 1034 01:00:34,930 --> 01:00:39,460 from Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, North Africa. 1035 01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:43,820 They arrived with nothing, went straight into tents. 1036 01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:46,630 The first waves of Sephardic Jewish immigration 1037 01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:48,850 brought people to Israel, who faced 1038 01:00:48,850 --> 01:00:51,740 insurmountable integration difficulties. 1039 01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:53,830 Many North African immigrants could neither read 1040 01:00:53,830 --> 01:00:55,810 nor write in any language. 1041 01:00:55,810 --> 01:00:58,240 Their lives were completely turned upside down. 1042 01:01:03,370 --> 01:01:07,090 The arrival of Jews who had been expelled from Arab countries 1043 01:01:07,090 --> 01:01:09,350 and were now here as refugees-- 1044 01:01:09,350 --> 01:01:11,110 most of them Zionists-- 1045 01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:11,920 caused panic. 1046 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,530 Because now, there was a population here from Europe. 1047 01:01:17,530 --> 01:01:19,540 Israel decided to transfer the immigrants 1048 01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:22,510 to work in collective farms. 1049 01:01:22,510 --> 01:01:24,550 Eyewitnesses remember immigrants refusing 1050 01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:27,340 to descend from the trucks, which tilted their platforms 1051 01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:30,320 to force them out. 1052 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,210 Most of them knew nothing about farming 1053 01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:35,750 and had received no training beforehand. 1054 01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:37,730 One newspaper wrote. 1055 01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:40,910 "Inside the camps, you see a confused mass of people 1056 01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:46,400 of all ages and from everywhere, disoriented, disconcerted, 1057 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,020 loaded with baskets, babies, hordes of children." 1058 01:01:56,820 --> 01:02:00,850 What the North African Jews and Jews from Arab lands 1059 01:02:00,850 --> 01:02:07,730 suffered here deserves a film of its own. 1060 01:02:07,730 --> 01:02:12,550 Without getting into details, they suffered atrocious things. 1061 01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:14,410 I grew up during the '50s and '60s. 1062 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,820 In Tel Aviv, there were practically only 1063 01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:21,290 Ashkenazi kids. 1064 01:02:21,290 --> 01:02:24,620 Only afterwards did I begin to understand that this wasn't all 1065 01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:27,500 of Israel's society, that they had tried to build 1066 01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:28,900 a kind of European bubble. 1067 01:02:32,290 --> 01:02:34,940 When they got here, the Jews from Eastern Europe 1068 01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:37,040 took control. 1069 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,900 They were leaders of the Zionist movement, 1070 01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:40,850 then they led the country. 1071 01:02:40,850 --> 01:02:46,030 They treated Jews from Arab countries as an inferior race. 1072 01:02:46,030 --> 01:02:48,020 They arrived here with total contempt 1073 01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,730 for all that wasn't European. 1074 01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:51,250 It was shameful. 1075 01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:54,950 It was, the Asians are arriving, the Orientals. 1076 01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:58,940 They have no culture, and most of them are illiterate. 1077 01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:02,490 The heads of the Jewish Agency sounded the alarm. 1078 01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:04,580 We are destroying these people. 1079 01:03:04,580 --> 01:03:08,570 Ben-Gurion insisted immigration strengthens our security. 1080 01:03:08,570 --> 01:03:10,980 By doubling, tripling the number of immigrants, 1081 01:03:10,980 --> 01:03:12,780 we can increase our strength. 1082 01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:15,080 But the Minister of Immigration refused. 1083 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,360 The rest of us, the managers of integration, 1084 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,820 confirmed that it must be slowed down at all costs. 1085 01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:23,930 So the government took measures inconceivable a year ago. 1086 01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:26,810 Limit the waves of immigration as much as possible. 1087 01:03:26,810 --> 01:03:29,600 In '51, there were 173,000. 1088 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:36,050 In '52, less than 24,000 and 10,000 the following year. 1089 01:03:36,050 --> 01:03:39,020 Ben-Gurion asked the women to have many children. 1090 01:03:39,020 --> 01:03:41,120 And in the end, the ones who had a lot of children 1091 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,320 weren't the ones whose progeny he wanted. 1092 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,480 He was frustrated. 1093 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,970 The country didn't match what he wanted it to be. 1094 01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:55,520 He was disappointed not just by the Sephardic Jews, 1095 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,680 but by the Jews in general. 1096 01:04:00,530 --> 01:04:01,550 What to do? 1097 01:04:01,550 --> 01:04:03,080 There wasn't another people. 1098 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,790 It was our people. 1099 01:04:05,790 --> 01:04:09,890 In a few years, Israel grew by 10%. 1100 01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:13,160 Several cities were created as well as nearly 400 kibbutzim 1101 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,030 and collective farms. 1102 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,470 But the country had to face up to the Arab refusal 1103 01:04:17,470 --> 01:04:19,360 to accept them in the region. 1104 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,130 There were thousands of clashes and acts 1105 01:04:21,130 --> 01:04:23,770 of sabotage inside Israel. 1106 01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:28,069 And more than 400 Israelis were killed from 1953 to 1956. 1107 01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:35,020 In Egypt, King Farouk was deposed. 1108 01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:39,900 And Lieutenant Colonel Gamal Abdel Nasser took power. 1109 01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:44,140 As a soldier, Nasser was taken prisoner here. 1110 01:04:44,140 --> 01:04:47,670 He had become good friends with one of the Israeli officers, 1111 01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:51,920 and the Palestinian question wasn't a big concern for him. 1112 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,380 [SIREN] 1113 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,760 During the year 1956, tensions rose between Israel and Egypt 1114 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,970 with raids led by Palestinians in Israeli territory. 1115 01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:08,400 Nasser rose to power and nationalized the Suez Canal 1116 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,700 in July, closing it to Israeli ships. 1117 01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,790 His regime, together with the constant acts of harassment, 1118 01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:18,450 culminated in the Sinai Campaign and the Suez Crisis. 1119 01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:20,340 France, Great Britain, and Israel 1120 01:05:20,340 --> 01:05:23,220 concluded a secret agreement to take control of the canal 1121 01:05:23,220 --> 01:05:26,190 and overthrow Nasser. 1122 01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:30,390 On October the 29th, 1956, the Israeli invasion of the Sinai 1123 01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:32,490 was followed by British and French troops 1124 01:05:32,490 --> 01:05:33,830 landing in Port Said. 1125 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,000 I participated in numerous wars-- 1126 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,860 several wars. 1127 01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:54,860 In most of the cases, we didn't have a choice, 1128 01:05:54,860 --> 01:06:00,200 except once, when Moshe Dayan with the English and French 1129 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:05,090 went to attack Egypt in 1956. 1130 01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:08,780 It's true that in 1956, Israel had occupied Sinai, 1131 01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:11,780 but they only stayed for three weeks. 1132 01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:13,930 The French, English, and Israelis 1133 01:06:13,930 --> 01:06:16,240 were forced to retreat under pressure from the United 1134 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,370 States and the Soviet Union. 1135 01:06:18,370 --> 01:06:22,300 The Suez expedition had turned into a fiasco, a crisis. 1136 01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:25,240 Nasser emerged as the great victor in the crisis. 1137 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,310 He managed to transform a military rout 1138 01:06:27,310 --> 01:06:30,010 into a political triumph that raised his popularity 1139 01:06:30,010 --> 01:06:32,710 in the Arab world considerably. 1140 01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:35,740 Sinai was given to Egypt early in 1957. 1141 01:06:35,740 --> 01:06:39,670 Ben-Gurion felt this retreat was a personal failure. 1142 01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:41,530 He had wanted this war against Egypt. 1143 01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:45,170 And that decision was criticized in the seat of government. 1144 01:06:45,170 --> 01:06:47,530 President Eisenhower was furious that Ben-Gurion 1145 01:06:47,530 --> 01:06:49,090 had intervened without consulting 1146 01:06:49,090 --> 01:06:50,590 the American government. 1147 01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:53,500 Ben-Gurion felt bitter and depressed, 1148 01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:57,580 until a day in May 1960, when he appeared before the Knesset 1149 01:06:57,580 --> 01:07:00,060 to read a declaration. 1150 01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:13,980 [SPEAKING HEBREW] 1151 01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:17,040 Adolf Eichmann, who had been captured in Argentina, 1152 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,680 would be tried in Jerusalem for his participation 1153 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,420 in the Final Solution. 1154 01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:23,850 It was the first time that a high-ranking Nazi 1155 01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:29,090 appeared before those he had wanted to annihilate. 1156 01:07:29,090 --> 01:07:31,610 During the 11 months between Eichmann's capture 1157 01:07:31,610 --> 01:07:33,920 and the start of the trial, Ben-Gurion 1158 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,560 would do his utmost to ensure a Nuremberg 1159 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,640 for the Jewish people. 1160 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:38,990 [NON-ENGLISH] 1161 01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:49,790 I went there every day from the first to the last day. 1162 01:07:49,790 --> 01:07:52,340 I was the only reporter to follow the trial from start 1163 01:07:52,340 --> 01:07:52,920 to finish. 1164 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,140 There were 110 witnesses. 1165 01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:03,400 And day and night, we had them speak. 1166 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,090 Thanks to the transistor radio, the Eichmann trial 1167 01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:11,880 would act as collective therapy for Israelis, 1168 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,090 especially young people. 1169 01:08:15,090 --> 01:08:20,340 Young people born in Israel knew nothing about the past. 1170 01:08:20,340 --> 01:08:22,800 They knew so little. 1171 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,180 It took time. 1172 01:08:24,180 --> 01:08:29,250 We had to wait for the 1960s. 1173 01:08:29,250 --> 01:08:31,620 With his final mission accomplished, 1174 01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:35,910 David Ben-Gurion retired from public life in June 1963, 1175 01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:38,940 after serving as prime minister for 14 years 1176 01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:42,570 and designated Levi Eshkol as his successor. 1177 01:08:42,570 --> 01:08:46,020 Then he returned to his kibbutz, Sde Boker, in the Negev Desert. 1178 01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:58,740 Ben-Gurion was like a Machiavelli. 1179 01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:00,970 That was Ben-Gurion. 1180 01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:03,470 Without him, the state of Israel wouldn't have been created. 1181 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,130 We the Palestinian people have paid a heavy price in blood 1182 01:09:12,130 --> 01:09:13,680 for the birth of the state of Israel. 1183 01:09:16,260 --> 01:09:20,550 Israeli position has been that with time, 1184 01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:23,160 the Palestinians would forget Palestine. 1185 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,690 And they would find other places to live. 1186 01:09:27,690 --> 01:09:33,000 And as the generations go, they will simply 1187 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,920 have no memory of Palestine and therefore, 1188 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,260 no attachment and so on. 1189 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:39,720 But that is also, of course, not true. 1190 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,450 Ben-Gurion said that in a dozen years or 20 years, 1191 01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:46,380 they'd even forget they were a people. 1192 01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:49,440 Fortunately, he was not right. 1193 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:51,530 Thank God. 1194 01:09:51,530 --> 01:09:53,480 The links Palestinians have with their land 1195 01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:54,810 have remained very strong. 1196 01:10:01,060 --> 01:10:04,790 Ben-Gurion made a lot of mistakes, of course. 1197 01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:08,930 He thought, then, with time, they'd end up forgetting. 1198 01:10:08,930 --> 01:10:10,470 They haven't forgotten it. 1199 01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:12,190 And we won't let them forget. 1200 01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:15,230 Though many of those who have left this land 1201 01:10:15,230 --> 01:10:17,480 haven't found their place, it's also 1202 01:10:17,480 --> 01:10:19,160 because the countries who accepted 1203 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:24,090 them did not allow them to make a place for themselves. 1204 01:10:24,090 --> 01:10:25,490 They weren't integrated. 1205 01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:27,740 They were placed in refugee camps. 1206 01:10:27,740 --> 01:10:29,570 Palestinians are the only people who 1207 01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:32,000 have been refugees from one generation to another. 1208 01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:40,720 They never wanted to integrate them for personal reasons, 1209 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:46,010 but also to keep the Palestinian question alive. 1210 01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:52,570 Of course, it's a diplomatic and moral weapon against Israel. 1211 01:10:52,570 --> 01:10:55,130 As if to excuse their powerlessness, 1212 01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:57,680 the Arab regimes repeated beautiful speeches, 1213 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,080 promising the liberation of Palestine. 1214 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,960 But in May 1964, a congress uniting 1215 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,080 Palestinian representatives Gamal Abdel Nasser and King 1216 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,010 Hussein of Jordan was held in the east of Jerusalem. 1217 01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:15,020 The Palestinian question, thus, has more weight. 1218 01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:19,180 Because the Arab world can unite over this question. 1219 01:11:19,180 --> 01:11:21,320 And the Palestinian question becomes central. 1220 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,840 The Congress was held on the Mount of Olives. 1221 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,280 It was the First Congress. 1222 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,100 My father was there, along with many other Palestinians. 1223 01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:33,110 Ahmad al-Shukeiri was also there. 1224 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,440 Nasser would insist on the Palestinian Ahmad Shukeiri 1225 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:42,080 as the first president of the PLO, the Palestine Liberation 1226 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,170 Organization. 1227 01:11:45,170 --> 01:11:48,990 The PLO felt armed conflict was the route to follow. 1228 01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:52,000 The [INAUDIBLE] was not just a defeat. 1229 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,710 It was an utter demolition of the notion, 1230 01:11:56,710 --> 01:12:00,010 an attempt at utterly demolishing 1231 01:12:00,010 --> 01:12:02,380 the Palestinian existence. 1232 01:12:02,380 --> 01:12:06,980 And when you try and demolish the existence of another, 1233 01:12:06,980 --> 01:12:11,890 then you put their backs on the wall, and then they fight back. 1234 01:12:11,890 --> 01:12:15,110 This was the start of Palestinian terrorism. 1235 01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:17,060 Fedayeen threw themselves into a wave 1236 01:12:17,060 --> 01:12:20,420 of attacks that would undermine Israeli society morale, 1237 01:12:20,420 --> 01:12:22,460 especially since the country was experiencing 1238 01:12:22,460 --> 01:12:25,310 an unprecedented economic crisis. 1239 01:12:25,310 --> 01:12:27,350 Many Israelis left the country. 1240 01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:30,380 An ironic sign in the airport said, "The last Israeli 1241 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:33,560 to leave should turn out the lights." 1242 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,350 In '65, there was a great recession in Israel. 1243 01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:39,140 I was a child at the time. 1244 01:12:39,140 --> 01:12:41,480 Our economic situation was catastrophic. 1245 01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:43,170 Unemployment was rising. 1246 01:12:43,170 --> 01:12:44,810 There was no more money. 1247 01:12:44,810 --> 01:12:46,380 We lived very modestly, really. 1248 01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:52,580 From the Syrian Golan Heights, heavy artillery attacks 1249 01:12:52,580 --> 01:12:54,890 regularly occurred against Israeli locations 1250 01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:57,440 in northern Galilee. 1251 01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,390 Prime Minister Levi Eshkol went there to try and reassure 1252 01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:00,890 the people. 1253 01:13:05,770 --> 01:13:09,430 In April, 1967, seven Syrian MiG-21s 1254 01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:11,650 were shot down by the Israelis. 1255 01:13:11,650 --> 01:13:14,360 The Arab world had to retaliate. 1256 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,560 In May 1967, the conflict escalated. 1257 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,490 Nasser ordered his army to reoccupy 1258 01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:24,410 the Sinai, a demilitarized zone for the past 10 years, 1259 01:13:24,410 --> 01:13:27,170 and insisted that the UN international forces deployed 1260 01:13:27,170 --> 01:13:29,180 there must depart. 1261 01:13:29,180 --> 01:13:31,520 By closing the Straits of Tehran between the Aqaba 1262 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,400 Gulf and the Red Sea, Egypt blocked access 1263 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,800 to the Israeli port Eilat. 1264 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:43,130 For Israel, it was a [INAUDIBLE] that could only lead to war. 1265 01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:46,590 Nasser fell into such a trap. 1266 01:13:46,590 --> 01:13:49,490 He thought he could talk about it without actually 1267 01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:50,840 doing anything. 1268 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,670 From the moment he started talking about it, 1269 01:13:52,670 --> 01:13:55,380 a mechanism was set in motion. 1270 01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:57,410 And he was caught up in it. 1271 01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:59,890 He didn't think he would have to do it. 1272 01:13:59,890 --> 01:14:02,860 They really took him for a ride, which he realized afterwards. 1273 01:14:06,530 --> 01:14:09,200 Just prior to the Six-Day War, there 1274 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,010 were three weeks that were called the weeks of waiting, 1275 01:14:13,010 --> 01:14:13,690 and we waited. 1276 01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:19,930 Nasser had closed all passage points, 1277 01:14:19,930 --> 01:14:23,180 and wanted to invade us, and to occupy our country. 1278 01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:32,640 Nasser forced us to call in the reservists. 1279 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,810 And given that it was a tiny state, when 1280 01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:41,740 we called in the reservists, there was no one left to work. 1281 01:14:41,740 --> 01:14:47,480 I said to my wife, if they mobilize us elderly people too, 1282 01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:50,840 that means there will be war. 1283 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,740 For long weeks, the country was in suspense. 1284 01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:57,870 People weren't working. 1285 01:14:57,870 --> 01:15:01,390 It's something you can tolerate for one week, or two weeks, 1286 01:15:01,390 --> 01:15:03,570 three weeks, but not an eternity. 1287 01:15:03,570 --> 01:15:06,540 There was a pogrom-like atmosphere. 1288 01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:12,250 At every intersection in Cairo, Jews were symbolically hanged. 1289 01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:14,480 Israelis watched these televised images 1290 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:16,480 from neighboring countries with growing concern. 1291 01:15:22,930 --> 01:15:26,960 I remember my mother sealing windows with Scotch tape, 1292 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,280 because we were going to be bombed at any moment. 1293 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,740 We truly had the feeling of being in great danger. 1294 01:15:35,260 --> 01:15:37,600 We thought there would be hundreds and hundreds 1295 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,760 of dead and wounded. 1296 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,010 Beds were being prepared in the hospitals. 1297 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,710 Volunteers dug holes in football pitches 1298 01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:50,620 and public squares for the thousands of Israeli victims 1299 01:15:50,620 --> 01:15:54,730 to be buried in after the war. 1300 01:15:54,730 --> 01:15:58,600 I remember the [INAUDIBLE] neighbors were terrorized. 1301 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,130 There were alarms. 1302 01:16:00,130 --> 01:16:02,380 And they ran down to the ground floor of the building, 1303 01:16:02,380 --> 01:16:04,980 because there was no shelter. 1304 01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:06,390 [NON-ENGLISH SINGING] 1305 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,730 Both countries continued exchanging fighting words 1306 01:16:16,730 --> 01:16:18,080 through songs. 1307 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,830 On the Israeli side, Nasser wants to rip up Rabin. 1308 01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:25,680 [NON-ENGLISH SINGING] 1309 01:16:33,730 --> 01:16:36,520 Cairo radios broadcast a song, which was basically 1310 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,560 a call to kill all Israelis-- 1311 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,420 death to the Jews. 1312 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,400 Palestinian leader Ahmad Shukeiri's watchword, 1313 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,280 all Jews into the sea, was more moderate. 1314 01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:57,550 Shukeiri was Nasser's voice. 1315 01:16:57,550 --> 01:17:01,570 As you're aware, he was thrown out of the Palestine movement. 1316 01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:09,640 Egyptian television broadcast made up 1317 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,950 images of what the next war would be like. 1318 01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:26,380 We would have done better to weigh our ideas 1319 01:17:26,380 --> 01:17:32,410 and declarations, try to balance them 1320 01:17:32,410 --> 01:17:38,440 according to our capacities and our own interests. 1321 01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,220 That's certain. 1322 01:17:42,190 --> 01:17:44,170 I was 11 then. 1323 01:17:44,170 --> 01:17:47,320 And I felt that this was a war to save its very existence. 1324 01:17:52,450 --> 01:17:55,780 That's how they presented things to us. 1325 01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:58,330 And of course, on the radio, we also 1326 01:17:58,330 --> 01:18:03,640 heard Arabs who said that this time they would win. 1327 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,000 It was scary. 1328 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,480 [NON-ENGLISH SINGING] 1329 01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:22,090 One could very often hear the phrase, "exterminate Israel," 1330 01:18:22,090 --> 01:18:24,100 on radios and televisions. 1331 01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:27,150 The word exterminate referred to the Holocaust. 1332 01:18:27,150 --> 01:18:30,010 And people were really expecting another Holocaust. 1333 01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:43,510 We are always afraid we'll be thrown into the sea, 1334 01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:47,380 or be hated, or be exterminated. 1335 01:18:47,380 --> 01:18:50,410 So every day we experience the Holocaust 1336 01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:54,010 as if it could happen in the next few minutes. 1337 01:18:54,010 --> 01:18:57,160 The country was so small and so narrow. 1338 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,080 On the eve of the Six-Day War, we really 1339 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,520 thought that could happen. 1340 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,120 You know what we called the borders of Israel? 1341 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,070 The borders of Auschwitz. 1342 01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:09,130 We were overwhelmed by a real sense of agony fed 1343 01:19:09,130 --> 01:19:13,740 by the Syrians and Jordanians that Israel would vanish. 1344 01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:18,880 In Israel, an agony difficult to describe arose. 1345 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,780 We said, we're going to disappear. 1346 01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:23,590 And the army officers turned to Eshkol 1347 01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:27,490 and said to him, what are you waiting for? 1348 01:19:27,490 --> 01:19:30,820 Prime Minister Levi Eshkol warned General Yitzhak Rabin, 1349 01:19:30,820 --> 01:19:33,910 a hero of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, 1350 01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:37,390 we cannot start a war without a green light from America. 1351 01:19:37,390 --> 01:19:40,570 Eshkol also had to confront his Defense Minister General Moshe 1352 01:19:40,570 --> 01:19:41,740 Dayan. 1353 01:19:41,740 --> 01:19:45,010 Dayan had fought in the ranks of the Haganah from the age of 14, 1354 01:19:45,010 --> 01:19:47,770 had held the highest offices during the war of '48, 1355 01:19:47,770 --> 01:19:51,490 including Army Chief of Staff during the Suez War. 1356 01:19:51,490 --> 01:19:53,450 Rabin closeted himself with Dayan 1357 01:19:53,450 --> 01:19:55,720 and Menachem Begin, the opposition leader, 1358 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,150 then told Levi Eshkol that the country had no choice. 1359 01:19:59,150 --> 01:20:03,070 We must attack without delay to avoid being swept away. 1360 01:20:03,070 --> 01:20:05,140 Eshkol, with little military experience, 1361 01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:07,660 was outnumbered and allowed himself to be convinced, 1362 01:20:07,660 --> 01:20:08,650 siding with Dayan. 1363 01:20:13,340 --> 01:20:16,280 As soon as Dayan joined the government with people 1364 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,210 like Begin, who was the leader of the opposition party, 1365 01:20:20,210 --> 01:20:22,840 it was the first time such a thing had happened. 1366 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,860 And it was clear we were headed for war. 1367 01:20:32,170 --> 01:20:35,000 On the 5th of June, over 400 planes 1368 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,000 from the Egyptian Air Force were destroyed in three hours. 1369 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,150 The head of the Air Force, General Weizman, 1370 01:20:41,150 --> 01:20:45,510 called his spouse to say, we've just won the war. 1371 01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:48,110 A little later, a land offensive took place 1372 01:20:48,110 --> 01:20:50,240 in the Sinai and the Gaza Strip. 1373 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,570 70,000 men and 700 Israeli army tanks 1374 01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:57,020 attacked the Egyptian forces stationed in the Sinai. 1375 01:20:57,020 --> 01:20:58,910 Deprived of Air Force reinforcement, 1376 01:20:58,910 --> 01:21:01,310 they could not stand up to the onslaught. 1377 01:21:01,310 --> 01:21:03,770 The next day, the Israeli army easily 1378 01:21:03,770 --> 01:21:05,150 occupied the Sinai Desert. 1379 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,370 The fact that we paralyzed the Egyptian Air 1380 01:21:20,370 --> 01:21:24,100 Force in the first hours of the war 1381 01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:25,750 showed how the war would end. 1382 01:21:28,630 --> 01:21:32,070 Most of all, there was the euphoria of still being alive, 1383 01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:33,380 surviving. 1384 01:21:33,380 --> 01:21:34,690 We survived. 1385 01:21:34,690 --> 01:21:37,490 We're here. 1386 01:21:37,490 --> 01:21:40,570 We really experienced it as a true threat 1387 01:21:40,570 --> 01:21:44,050 to our survival, an existential threat. 1388 01:21:44,050 --> 01:21:46,480 Then later, there were theories that it was just 1389 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:50,470 a huge bluff, things like that. 1390 01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:53,410 It was confirmed by historians. 1391 01:21:53,410 --> 01:21:56,240 We found out that the authorities, our leaders, 1392 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,740 knew very well our existence wasn't in any danger. 1393 01:21:59,740 --> 01:22:02,260 They said we were threatened with extermination, 1394 01:22:02,260 --> 01:22:05,500 and I believed it. 1395 01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:07,210 The fact that they played on that fear 1396 01:22:07,210 --> 01:22:09,010 says a lot about the Israeli leaders. 1397 01:22:13,090 --> 01:22:15,640 The only reason why the Six-Day War was declared 1398 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,220 is because our generals estimated the Egyptian Army was 1399 01:22:18,220 --> 01:22:18,930 very weak. 1400 01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:21,100 And it was the right time to attack them and conquer 1401 01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,750 territory. 1402 01:22:22,750 --> 01:22:23,470 It's the truth. 1403 01:22:26,260 --> 01:22:28,780 To say there was a threat of examination-- everyone 1404 01:22:28,780 --> 01:22:30,250 knows that was a lie. 1405 01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:33,900 My father said so right away. 1406 01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:36,370 General Matti Peled, father of Nurit Peled, 1407 01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:39,850 later declared, all those tales about the enormous danger 1408 01:22:39,850 --> 01:22:41,910 we faced because of our cramped country 1409 01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:43,570 were never taken into account during 1410 01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:47,560 our pre-battle calculations. 1411 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,290 To pretend that the Egyptian Forces gathered at our border, 1412 01:22:50,290 --> 01:22:52,270 could threaten the existence of Israel 1413 01:22:52,270 --> 01:22:54,820 is an insult to intelligence and to our army. 1414 01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,750 It was only after four years that other truths 1415 01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:05,100 emerged about the Six-Day War. 1416 01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:08,280 Mordechai Bentov, Minister of Labor and Reconstruction-- 1417 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,740 all those tales about the risk of extermination 1418 01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:13,830 were invented piecemeal and exaggerated after the fact 1419 01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:16,620 to justify annexing new Arab territories. 1420 01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:19,440 General Ezer Weitzman-- there never 1421 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:21,450 was danger of extermination. 1422 01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:25,590 This theory was never envisioned before the Six-Day War. 1423 01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:29,010 Menachem Begin-- Nasser wasn't really going to attack us. 1424 01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:30,940 We should be honest with ourselves. 1425 01:23:30,940 --> 01:23:33,480 We decided to attack. 1426 01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:36,750 Moshe Dayan-- the idea that Syria threatened Israel 1427 01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,600 before the War of '67 is just a joke. 1428 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,080 Yitzhak Rabin-- I don't think Nasser wanted war. 1429 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,820 The divisions he sent to Sinai wouldn't 1430 01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:47,160 have been enough to launch an attack against Israel. 1431 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,070 He knew it. 1432 01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:50,940 And we knew it. 1433 01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:53,310 We didn't experience it like that, 1434 01:23:53,310 --> 01:23:59,260 nor did the population, nor the army, 1435 01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:01,210 and certainly not the politicians. 1436 01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:08,350 There really was an anxious moment. 1437 01:24:08,350 --> 01:24:11,500 War was inevitable. 1438 01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:14,950 It didn't go the way we imagined it, because Hussein got 1439 01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:16,350 involved in that vicious cycle. 1440 01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:23,500 We tried to convince Hussein not to participate in the war. 1441 01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:26,890 That was his mistake. 1442 01:24:26,890 --> 01:24:30,280 After Cairo radio stations announced great victories, 1443 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,620 King Hussein's Jordanian forces entered the war 1444 01:24:32,620 --> 01:24:34,100 and attacked West Jerusalem. 1445 01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:42,010 If he hadn't intervened, it would have been exactly 1446 01:24:42,010 --> 01:24:45,390 like the war of '56. 1447 01:24:45,390 --> 01:24:48,370 As soon as he intervened, it became a global war 1448 01:24:48,370 --> 01:24:51,400 with all our neighbors, resulting 1449 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,500 in the conquest of territory. 1450 01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:59,560 It wasn't in Israel's interest to occupy the West 1451 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,770 Bank, because of its large population and even less so, 1452 01:25:02,770 --> 01:25:04,310 Jerusalem. 1453 01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:05,890 But the military has declared it would 1454 01:25:05,890 --> 01:25:07,780 be possible to take East Jerusalem, 1455 01:25:07,780 --> 01:25:11,140 and that in 1948, they'd made a mistake in not keeping the Old 1456 01:25:11,140 --> 01:25:12,000 City. 1457 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,490 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1458 01:25:27,930 --> 01:25:33,750 In the West Bank, the war that happened in 1967 1459 01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:35,880 was not much of a war, really. 1460 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,170 As far as we were concerned, the Israeli soldiers 1461 01:25:40,170 --> 01:25:42,420 literally walked through. 1462 01:25:42,420 --> 01:25:47,820 And there was very little, if any, resistance. 1463 01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:53,120 The Palestinians were unarmed, untrained for fighting. 1464 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,890 Moshe Dayan and Yitzhak Rabin went 1465 01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:59,130 into the lanes of the Old City and to the Wailing Wall. 1466 01:25:59,130 --> 01:26:02,460 Jerusalem had been cut in two since the 1948 War 1467 01:26:02,460 --> 01:26:04,320 and the proclamation of the state of Israel. 1468 01:26:08,170 --> 01:26:10,890 I know from several sources that Dayan 1469 01:26:10,890 --> 01:26:13,800 wasn't keen on the idea of conquering Jerusalem, 1470 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,680 but the pressure was too great. 1471 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,740 Moshe Dayan was convinced the United States and the USSR 1472 01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:21,840 would insist the fighting end, and that there 1473 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,550 would be a repeat of 1956, stopping Israel in its tracks. 1474 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:29,820 He decided to advance into the West Bank and the Syrian Golan 1475 01:26:29,820 --> 01:26:35,200 without the approval of military headquarters or the government. 1476 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,960 We didn't plan on taking the Golan Heights. 1477 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,640 But there was enormous pressure from the army to do so, 1478 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,800 to end gunfire from the heights onto villages. 1479 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,800 So they decided to occupy the Golan. 1480 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,790 And at that moment, the war's character completely changed, 1481 01:26:53,790 --> 01:26:55,320 and it became a general war. 1482 01:26:58,050 --> 01:27:00,810 On June the 10th at 6:00 PM, a general ceasefire 1483 01:27:00,810 --> 01:27:01,920 was proclaimed. 1484 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,140 Israel had complete victory. 1485 01:27:04,140 --> 01:27:06,450 On the same June the 10th, the 600 or so 1486 01:27:06,450 --> 01:27:08,340 Palestinian inhabitants of the neighborhood 1487 01:27:08,340 --> 01:27:11,280 across from the war were told they had to leave. 1488 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,520 The Esplanade would be raised along with many Arab houses. 1489 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,390 On June the 18th, without waiting for its legislature 1490 01:27:30,390 --> 01:27:34,560 to make a move, Israel annexed 71 square kilometers east 1491 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,500 of the city. 1492 01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:37,170 Jerusalem was reunified. 1493 01:27:47,550 --> 01:27:52,000 The conquest of Jerusalem wasn't required for defense. 1494 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,850 It was a romantic conquering. 1495 01:27:55,850 --> 01:27:59,390 And romanticism in politics is something that's dangerous. 1496 01:28:05,710 --> 01:28:10,430 In six days, Israel had occupied the West Bank, the Arab quarter 1497 01:28:10,430 --> 01:28:14,090 of Jerusalem, the Syrian Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip, 1498 01:28:14,090 --> 01:28:15,860 and the Sinai up to the Suez Canal. 1499 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,470 A million Arabs were now under Israeli administration. 1500 01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:25,400 And the Israeli state went from 21,000 to 102,000 1501 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,970 square kilometers. 1502 01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:30,680 After the Battle of Jerusalem, we 1503 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,140 were taken to see the Wailing Wall. 1504 01:28:33,140 --> 01:28:35,210 And when I got to the wall, I saw 1505 01:28:35,210 --> 01:28:38,300 people, all secular like me, saying 1506 01:28:38,300 --> 01:28:39,920 that this was a sacred place. 1507 01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:48,380 Sacred places didn't matter much to the first Zionists. 1508 01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:49,580 And suddenly, this big shock. 1509 01:28:52,970 --> 01:28:54,530 We're back. 1510 01:28:54,530 --> 01:28:56,840 It belongs to us. 1511 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,740 It was so easy. 1512 01:28:59,740 --> 01:29:01,330 Only God could have done this miracle. 1513 01:29:03,950 --> 01:29:06,920 We felt like the Messiah had arrived. 1514 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,510 It attracted a lot of young people 1515 01:29:08,510 --> 01:29:11,090 who were religious and became nationalists 1516 01:29:11,090 --> 01:29:14,300 or even young people who weren't religious to start with. 1517 01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:16,740 What's certain is that all the religious people 1518 01:29:16,740 --> 01:29:17,810 became right wingers. 1519 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,240 This crushing victory would change the course of history. 1520 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,090 Some saw it as a religious experience-- messianic. 1521 01:29:35,190 --> 01:29:39,400 I remember that in spite of my good communist upbringing, when 1522 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,120 they said the Old City of Jerusalem had been conquered, 1523 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,740 I repeated and used with emotion, 1524 01:29:46,740 --> 01:29:50,410 we've conquered the Old City. 1525 01:29:50,410 --> 01:29:53,200 I don't think I said liberated. 1526 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,480 I had been so brainwashed. 1527 01:29:55,480 --> 01:29:58,870 I participated in the nationalist religious orgy 1528 01:29:58,870 --> 01:30:02,710 that broke out then, that everyone participated in. 1529 01:30:02,710 --> 01:30:04,270 I was only 14. 1530 01:30:04,270 --> 01:30:06,160 I felt we had come home, and that we 1531 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,050 had liberated the territories. 1532 01:30:08,050 --> 01:30:10,180 And the most dramatic thing is that I don't 1533 01:30:10,180 --> 01:30:11,780 remember seeing even one Arab. 1534 01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:20,890 There was a new wave of refugees, 1535 01:30:20,890 --> 01:30:26,010 this time from the West Bank, especially around Jordan. 1536 01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:31,030 The refugees of '67 joined those from '48. 1537 01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:37,220 150,000 people departed. 1538 01:30:37,220 --> 01:30:40,790 It magnified the problem that was already there. 1539 01:31:59,340 --> 01:32:04,920 When I returned during the summer of 1967, 1540 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,010 it was quite a shock for me, since my house 1541 01:32:08,010 --> 01:32:13,680 was on the line separating East Jerusalem from West Jerusalem. 1542 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,210 But that line wasn't there when I returned. 1543 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,060 From the garden of my house, I looked at Israel 1544 01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:29,460 as if it were another world, a part of this world 1545 01:32:29,460 --> 01:32:32,460 that I didn't know, except through the stories 1546 01:32:32,460 --> 01:32:35,400 my mother had told me. 1547 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,360 In '67, I was already 16 years old. 1548 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:47,130 And I had no information and no direct knowledge 1549 01:32:47,130 --> 01:32:50,340 of the part of Palestine that became Israel. 1550 01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:54,780 Because after 1948, there was a very stiff border. 1551 01:32:54,780 --> 01:32:57,700 And we were not able to cross, of course. 1552 01:32:57,700 --> 01:33:01,320 No one thought it would last such a long time. 1553 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,270 We thought it was temporary. 1554 01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:05,820 The government had confirmed that the territories 1555 01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:08,700 were their ace to play and future peace negotiations. 1556 01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:13,170 We thought there would be peace soon 1557 01:33:13,170 --> 01:33:17,040 and we would get along with the inhabitants of Judea/Samaria. 1558 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,150 Since the Golan was empty, Sinai as well, we'd get along. 1559 01:33:21,150 --> 01:33:23,460 And all would be well. 1560 01:33:23,460 --> 01:33:26,850 Levi Ashkol was the first to say we'd 1561 01:33:26,850 --> 01:33:29,160 occupy the territories for a short while, 1562 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,370 keeping them as a bargaining chip in the negotiations 1563 01:33:32,370 --> 01:33:33,870 before returning them. 1564 01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:37,260 I don't think at all that Levi Eshkol ever imagined 1565 01:33:37,260 --> 01:33:41,220 we'd be there for 50 years. 1566 01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:43,700 There was the feeling that it would end quickly, 1567 01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:44,610 that it would change. 1568 01:33:44,610 --> 01:33:48,260 And things would soon go back to normal. 1569 01:33:48,260 --> 01:33:50,500 And of course, we soon understood it wouldn't. 1570 01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:56,950 On September the 1st, Arab countries met in Khartoum 1571 01:33:56,950 --> 01:34:01,420 and signed a Solidarity Charter after the Six-Day War. 1572 01:34:01,420 --> 01:34:03,550 It called for constant war against Israel 1573 01:34:03,550 --> 01:34:06,070 to regain the territories lost, using 1574 01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:08,860 Arab oil as a diplomatic weapon and defending 1575 01:34:08,860 --> 01:34:12,540 the Palestinian people's rights. 1576 01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:16,420 Paragraph three of the charter was noted as the three nos-- 1577 01:34:16,420 --> 01:34:20,350 no to peace with Israel, no to recognizing Israel, 1578 01:34:20,350 --> 01:34:21,970 and no to negotiations. 1579 01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,290 The situation stalled. 1580 01:34:26,290 --> 01:34:27,940 Because there were no Arab partners 1581 01:34:27,940 --> 01:34:30,830 during the negotiations, otherwise the situation 1582 01:34:30,830 --> 01:34:32,200 might have been resolved quickly. 1583 01:34:34,810 --> 01:34:39,320 Resistance to the occupation didn't immediately start. 1584 01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,730 Initially, the Palestinians were in shock, traumatized, 1585 01:34:42,730 --> 01:34:44,140 paralyzed. 1586 01:34:44,140 --> 01:34:46,090 They didn't quite know what to do. 1587 01:34:46,090 --> 01:34:48,520 Then we had the idea of an enlightenment, 1588 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:53,420 liberal occupation as if such a thing was ever possible. 1589 01:34:53,420 --> 01:34:56,740 Let's invent the concept of a liberal occupation 1590 01:34:56,740 --> 01:34:59,660 and see what happens. 1591 01:34:59,660 --> 01:35:04,810 After '67, a messianic Zionism with religious roots 1592 01:35:04,810 --> 01:35:08,620 flourished here, whose goal wasn't the freedom 1593 01:35:08,620 --> 01:35:11,500 or independence of the people of Israel, 1594 01:35:11,500 --> 01:35:13,060 but to bring the Jewish people back 1595 01:35:13,060 --> 01:35:15,040 to the path of their biblical past. 1596 01:35:19,420 --> 01:35:25,930 This new generation proclaimed, we are the new pioneers. 1597 01:35:25,930 --> 01:35:27,640 However, their motivations were different 1598 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,210 from the first pioneers who were not religious. 1599 01:35:31,210 --> 01:35:35,500 But the old Zionists were tired and viewed this new generation 1600 01:35:35,500 --> 01:35:41,470 with concern, but were rather satisfied all the same. 1601 01:35:41,470 --> 01:35:45,340 There it's the new generation. 1602 01:35:45,340 --> 01:35:49,120 It left a vacuum where a small, but very dynamic 1603 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,400 minority group of settlers made a place for themselves 1604 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,210 and tried to force Israel to stay in the territories 1605 01:35:55,210 --> 01:35:56,010 and annex them. 1606 01:35:59,140 --> 01:36:03,090 The first colonists appeared during this transition phase. 1607 01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:06,000 A few dozen fanatic, religious, nationalist militants 1608 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,420 saw the victory, especially the liberation of the Wailing Wall, 1609 01:36:09,420 --> 01:36:12,900 as a miracle signifying the return of the Messiah. 1610 01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:17,040 In March 1968, they created the first colony near Hebron, 1611 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:18,710 led by the Rabbi Moshe Levinger. 1612 01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:25,710 That's how everything started. 1613 01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:29,940 Shimon Peres was complicit with the first wave of colonization, 1614 01:36:29,940 --> 01:36:32,700 given that there was a fairly extremist wing in the Labor 1615 01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:34,320 Party. 1616 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,170 Obviously, we should have said from the start, 1617 01:36:37,170 --> 01:36:38,380 out of the question. 1618 01:36:38,380 --> 01:36:39,990 We didn't come here for that. 1619 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:41,010 We don't have the right. 1620 01:36:41,010 --> 01:36:43,260 International law forbids it. 1621 01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:44,380 There are strict rules. 1622 01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:54,170 Suddenly in '67, we became an occupying colonialist society. 1623 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,360 That changes society. 1624 01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,690 We couldn't behave in the same way anymore. 1625 01:37:03,370 --> 01:37:07,060 It's at that point that Israel really changed. 1626 01:37:07,060 --> 01:37:08,770 The government's priority should have 1627 01:37:08,770 --> 01:37:10,720 been to make peace with the Arabs, 1628 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,410 integrate into the region. 1629 01:37:12,410 --> 01:37:15,280 Finally, obtain peace. 1630 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,610 The Israel before '67 and after '67 1631 01:37:18,610 --> 01:37:20,710 are two completely different societies, 1632 01:37:20,710 --> 01:37:22,150 two different countries. 1633 01:37:22,150 --> 01:37:25,750 I didn't say two different populations. 1634 01:37:25,750 --> 01:37:28,990 On the 4th of February 1969, Yasser Arafat 1635 01:37:28,990 --> 01:37:31,560 became president of the PLO. 1636 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,820 Israelis considered the National Palestinian 1637 01:37:33,820 --> 01:37:37,660 Charter adopted in Cairo as a true declaration of war. 1638 01:37:37,660 --> 01:37:40,120 Because it defined the organization's goal 1639 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,240 to annihilate the state of Israel through armed combat. 1640 01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,970 Two weeks later, Prime Minister Levi Eshkol 1641 01:37:45,970 --> 01:37:50,470 died in February 1969, struck down by a heart attack. 1642 01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:53,620 Golda Meir replaced him as prime minister. 1643 01:37:53,620 --> 01:37:55,840 Known for her firmness and inflexibility, 1644 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,580 she was Minister for Foreign Affairs 1645 01:37:57,580 --> 01:37:59,750 under Ben-Gurion, who said of her, 1646 01:37:59,750 --> 01:38:03,160 she is the only man in my government. 1647 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,380 Golda Meir said a lot of stupid things. 1648 01:38:05,380 --> 01:38:08,030 For example, the Palestinians weren't a people. 1649 01:38:08,030 --> 01:38:35,610 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1650 01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:38,760 The start of a political blindness 1651 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,520 that grew more and more deeply. 1652 01:38:51,410 --> 01:38:54,840 At the beginning of the 1970s, the Occupation Forces 1653 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,110 started expelling Palestinians from their land and building 1654 01:38:58,110 --> 01:39:00,180 colonies. 1655 01:39:00,180 --> 01:39:03,060 From then on, Israel managed the occupied territories 1656 01:39:03,060 --> 01:39:06,210 directly and militarily. 1657 01:39:06,210 --> 01:39:10,060 All services were handled by the military-- health, education, 1658 01:39:10,060 --> 01:39:11,910 agriculture, employment. 1659 01:39:20,050 --> 01:39:23,980 We slowly began to realize what occupation would mean. 1660 01:39:23,980 --> 01:39:27,790 And then in time, we realized that occupation 1661 01:39:27,790 --> 01:39:30,140 would mean, most important of all, 1662 01:39:30,140 --> 01:39:33,220 that the land would slowly be taken. 1663 01:39:33,220 --> 01:39:36,460 And Israeli settlements would be built on it. 1664 01:39:36,460 --> 01:39:39,190 Those who think these people will put up with the situation 1665 01:39:39,190 --> 01:39:41,170 much longer where they're considered 1666 01:39:41,170 --> 01:39:45,520 second-class citizens are much mistaken. 1667 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,420 Palestinians got used to it, but for how much longer? 1668 01:39:53,020 --> 01:39:58,180 Suicide attacks have destroyed the peace faction. 1669 01:39:58,180 --> 01:39:59,170 We've become mute. 1670 01:40:04,970 --> 01:40:07,720 It's hard to defend peace when buses 1671 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:08,970 are blowing up in the streets. 1672 01:40:11,620 --> 01:40:13,300 The way the Palestinians have chosen 1673 01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:16,270 to fight, the methods they've chosen, 1674 01:40:16,270 --> 01:40:19,230 violence that leads to nothing, or apathy 1675 01:40:19,230 --> 01:40:22,270 that leads to doing nothing. 1676 01:40:22,270 --> 01:40:24,190 They still have a lot to learn so that they 1677 01:40:24,190 --> 01:40:26,920 can organize an intelligent, effective fight 1678 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,090 against the occupation. 1679 01:40:31,780 --> 01:40:35,920 On the Palestinian side, without saying so openly, 1680 01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,640 many of our leaders have adapted to the situation in which we 1681 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,160 find ourselves today. 1682 01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:46,180 This extremely depressing, disturbing, and deplorable 1683 01:40:46,180 --> 01:40:48,490 situation. 1684 01:40:48,490 --> 01:40:51,040 But our leaders are ready to continue living this way. 1685 01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:57,640 Israeli society thinks that if you 1686 01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,920 don't talk about the occupation, it doesn't exist. 1687 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,670 It's happening a half hour from our home 1688 01:41:03,670 --> 01:41:06,650 and yet, most Israelis have never been there. 1689 01:41:06,650 --> 01:41:08,650 They aren't interested in what's going on there. 1690 01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:16,900 It's extremely difficult to make things change, 1691 01:41:16,900 --> 01:41:18,970 to lift the veil that the Israelis have 1692 01:41:18,970 --> 01:41:23,560 drawn over everything about the occupation. 1693 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,860 We have negotiated in vain for 25 years, 1694 01:41:26,860 --> 01:41:30,640 because colonization has just kept on growing 1695 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,990 a quarter of a century. 1696 01:41:32,990 --> 01:41:35,620 And look at the result. 1697 01:41:35,620 --> 01:41:38,230 The only thing the Israelis do is cover it up. 1698 01:41:38,230 --> 01:41:39,400 But, yes, yes, of course. 1699 01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:40,340 We'll discuss it. 1700 01:41:40,340 --> 01:41:40,960 We will sign. 1701 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,120 We'll shake hands. 1702 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,800 All that so people won't notice that the bulldozers continue 1703 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:45,580 to work. 1704 01:41:45,580 --> 01:41:50,430 There is no serious policy on stopping the occupation. 1705 01:41:50,430 --> 01:41:53,850 According to Israeli statistics, the Jewish colony population 1706 01:41:53,850 --> 01:41:57,660 in the West Bank continued to increase by about 4% per year, 1707 01:41:57,660 --> 01:42:01,790 becoming about 400,000 people. 1708 01:42:01,790 --> 01:42:03,830 You can't talk about the $400,000 1709 01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:06,870 and not take into account the 300,000 Jewish settlers 1710 01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:08,030 in Jerusalem. 1711 01:42:08,030 --> 01:42:09,060 Sorry. 1712 01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:11,190 The occupation of East Jerusalem is 1713 01:42:11,190 --> 01:42:13,440 no different from any other occupation. 1714 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:15,630 There are 700,000 settlers. 1715 01:42:15,630 --> 01:42:17,220 And there is no government leader. 1716 01:42:17,220 --> 01:42:19,110 And there never will be, who will decide 1717 01:42:19,110 --> 01:42:21,570 to evacuate 700,000 settlers. 1718 01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:22,980 That's the reason why people like 1719 01:42:22,980 --> 01:42:26,010 me no longer believe in the solution of two states side 1720 01:42:26,010 --> 01:42:27,820 by side. 1721 01:42:27,820 --> 01:42:31,350 The solution of two states in the classic sense 1722 01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:34,990 will never happen, except by a miracle. 1723 01:42:34,990 --> 01:42:38,280 It's not just Elias Sanbar or myself saying this. 1724 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:43,140 I think anyone who observes what's going on can see that. 1725 01:42:43,140 --> 01:42:49,470 For years, we, myself included, have asked the question, 1726 01:42:49,470 --> 01:42:52,460 does Israel really want peace? 1727 01:42:52,460 --> 01:42:55,650 And as talks and meetings continue, 1728 01:42:55,650 --> 01:42:58,380 I started to understand and ask myself 1729 01:42:58,380 --> 01:43:02,130 another question, which is, can Israel make peace? 1730 01:43:04,890 --> 01:43:08,280 I don't think peace is impossible. 1731 01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,590 I'm afraid we won't want it. 1732 01:43:10,590 --> 01:43:13,170 And the more time passes, the more complicated 1733 01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:18,250 it gets, until people will say, we don't need it anymore. 1734 01:43:18,250 --> 01:43:20,580 When I joined the resistance, I was 20. 1735 01:43:20,580 --> 01:43:21,760 I'm now 70. 1736 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,880 If I thought there was no solution to this problem, 1737 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,310 why would I have kept hitting my head against the wall? 1738 01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:29,190 No conflict is eternal, even though this one seems 1739 01:43:29,190 --> 01:43:30,770 to have lasted an eternity. 1740 01:43:30,770 --> 01:43:32,100 It's gone on for over a century. 1741 01:43:36,690 --> 01:43:39,390 Where I come from in East Jerusalem, none of us 1742 01:43:39,390 --> 01:43:41,040 have citizenship. 1743 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,950 We don't have passports. 1744 01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:46,770 We Palestinians-- we have no citizenship anywhere. 1745 01:43:46,770 --> 01:43:48,480 I have no country. 1746 01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:49,770 I'm not Israeli. 1747 01:43:49,770 --> 01:43:51,030 I'm not Jordanian. 1748 01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:52,230 I'm not Egyptian. 1749 01:43:52,230 --> 01:43:53,100 I'm not Tunisian. 1750 01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:53,760 I'm not French. 1751 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,630 I'm not Italian. 1752 01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:56,500 I'm nothing. 1753 01:43:56,500 --> 01:43:59,450 Will I go back to Palestine one day? 1754 01:43:59,450 --> 01:44:01,200 No, it's too late for my generation. 1755 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:02,800 Too late. 1756 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,030 My Palestine no longer exists. 1757 01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:10,200 We feel as though we have been erased, that we never existed. 1758 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,280 We were kicked out. 1759 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,010 We were thrown out of the borders. 1760 01:44:13,010 --> 01:44:14,790 And what happened, happened. 1761 01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:16,170 No one can erase it. 1762 01:44:16,170 --> 01:44:16,770 It happened. 1763 01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:23,580 Will wisdom and moderation overcome 1764 01:44:23,580 --> 01:44:25,080 fanaticism and stupidity? 1765 01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,440 I don't know. 1766 01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:35,130 An historian, says Hegel, is the prophet of the past. 1767 01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:48,040 War starts when diplomacy has failed. 1768 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,420 And it's time for weapons. 1769 01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:54,150 I've always viewed the wars in Israel as a war 1770 01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:56,360 without end with a few pauses. 1771 01:45:02,500 --> 01:45:06,500 When you think about it, it's a conflict that has never ended. 1772 01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:08,660 And the cycle sure isn't over yet. 1773 01:45:14,810 --> 01:45:17,060 Knowing he was ill, Theodor Herzl 1774 01:45:17,060 --> 01:45:20,090 had written a letter to his successors, saying, 1775 01:45:20,090 --> 01:45:23,100 don't make mistakes when I'm dead. 1776 01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:27,200 He died in 1904, aged 44. 1777 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,900 Herzl had asked to be buried in Palestine when 1778 01:45:29,900 --> 01:45:34,180 the Jewish people have founded an independent state there. 1779 01:45:34,180 --> 01:45:36,620 45 years later on August the 17th, 1780 01:45:36,620 --> 01:45:40,490 1949, he was buried at Mount Herzl in Jerusalem, 1781 01:45:40,490 --> 01:45:43,430 along with his parents and his sister, Pauline, 1782 01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:46,070 but not his youngest daughter, Trude Norman, 1783 01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:48,580 who had died in the Theresienstadt concentration 1784 01:45:48,580 --> 01:45:49,280 camp. 145126

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