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This programme contains
some strong language
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Las Vegas. It isn't just a city.
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It's the world's largest, brightest,
brashest neon work of art.
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I also think it's a perfect symbol
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of what America's been
for so much of the modern age.
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It stands for its
irrepressible, unsleeping,
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can-do spirit of optimism.
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This astonishing something
created out of nothing.
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An Emerald City rising
where 100 years ago,
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there was just desert.
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Like the rest of America,
Vegas was built on an ideal,
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a place where anyone can turn
fantasy into reality.
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Where anyone can get rich.
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Where anyone can become President.
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Free market, free society,
that was the dream.
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But is it all a mirage?
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In the new world of the
21st century,
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America seems like a country in
crisis,
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a nation that's lost its swagger,
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and along with that the belief
that ITS values, life, liberty,
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the pursuit of happiness,
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should be THE core values of the
civilised world.
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It's become a more plural society,
but also a more anxious one.
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And I think if you want to truly
understand the vast changes
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that have transformed America's
ways of seeing and thinking,
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there's no better way to do that
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than by exploring the story
of American art.
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In the years after World War II,
suburban America
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became the battleground
for the soul of the nation.
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An unprecedented economic boom
enabled ordinary Americans
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to enjoy all the pleasures of modern
life.
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Motorcars, fridges,
freezers, television sets.
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But this sense of security was
bought at a price.
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The invention of the atom bomb
brought about a new world order.
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From now on, the USA
and the Soviet Union
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would be locked in a rival
nuclear stalemate,
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each defining itself as hero nation
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with a mission to vanquish
the enemy.
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And with the most deadly of all
weapons available to the Russians,
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no people in the world can
feel secure against this aggression.
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We believe in freedom.
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Freedom, born of the conviction that
every person is a child of God,
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and is therefore of supreme worth.
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We want freedom for ourselves,
for everyone.
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In Russia,
the state owned everything.
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The American way was about private
home ownership and free enterprise.
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In the late '40s, the US government
encouraged entrepreneur builders
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The American way was about private
home ownership and free enterprise.
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In the late '40s, the US government
encouraged entrepreneur builders
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like William J Levitt, to create
affordable homes for the masses.
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Levittown, in Long Island, New York,
is a perfect example
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of the new American suburbs
that went up in the 1940s and 1950s.
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17,500 houses constructed in just
four years.
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Built from cheap
affordable materials,
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and assembled using a version
of the same production-line process
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that Henry Ford had applied to
the mass manufacture of automobiles.
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These simple, box-like structures
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were the homes of
a new form of the American Dream.
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But if Levittown's cookie-cutter
houses all looked the same,
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then so did the faces.
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Levittown rules explicitly barred
any residents
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who were not of the Caucasian race.
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The dream might be for you
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if you were a white Anglo-Saxon
patriot, preferably male.
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But of course, beneath the surface,
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America was teeming with
desperate housewives,
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blacks, Hispanics, and many others
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whose fears and frustrations
remained completely obscured.
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In 1954, small-town Southern boy,
Jasper Johns,
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settled in New York city,
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and began to paint the ultimate
symbol of American-ness.
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The Stars and Stripes.
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He painted subtle variations on it,
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but always fetishising the same
familiar image.
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At the time, most American artists
were painting
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intellectual abstractions.
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Johns' flags seemed refreshingly new
and direct.
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But what were they?
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Outpourings of patriotic fervour?
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A different kind of abstraction?
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Or something else?
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The Metropolitan Museum in New York
houses my favourite
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of Johns' flags, painted not in the
usual red white and blue,
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but simply white
and on a vast scale.
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When Johns first presented
his flag pictures
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to the American public in the 1950s,
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he was extremely reticent
about their meanings.
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He said, "I simply paint things
the mind already knows."
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The implication being that the
flag was almost a non-subject,
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it was such a universally
recognisable symbol
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that what meaning could
it possibly possess?
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These were purely formal paintings.
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What a load of nonsense.
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These are angry, passionate
pictures,
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they are Johns' way of saying,
of expressing
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what he felt was wrong
with American society in the 1950s.
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Contentless?
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Hardly.
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Look at what this picture is
made of.
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It's made of a collage of newsprint,
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a babble of muffled American voices,
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muffled by this thick heavy layer
of encaustic beeswax oil-paint.
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The picture is a metaphor.
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The picture is a metaphor for Johns'
perception that America is a place
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where you're supposed to have
freedom of speech,
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you're supposed to have freedom of
behaviour
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but actually, you don't.
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This is a picture of America, as it
were, buried beneath
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the thick, heavy snow of a cold
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and illiberal idea
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of patriotic duty.
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Johns had good reason to be anxious
about the moral status quo.
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He was living
in a homosexual relationship
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with artist Robert Rauschenberg,
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which was not only illegal,
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but in an age
of McCarthyite witch-hunts,
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it could also get you branded as
a dangerous commie subversive.
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To be a fine, upstanding member
of American society,
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you had to embrace all its values,
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above all, the freedom to shop.
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This was the moment
when advertising came of age,
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when ad men learnt
how to stop lecturing,
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and instead practise
the dark arts of seduction.
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They exploited hyperreal colours
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and graphic brand logos
to repeat the mantra,
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"You can never have too much".
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By the early '60s,
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a new generation of artists
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was confronting the strangeness
of consumer society.
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Jasper Johns and his flags had
already begun
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to dig beneath the surface of
America's brave new world.
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Those who followed
called themselves pop artists,
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their subject being popular culture.
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Their work seemed just as enticing
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as the goods piled high
in the new shopping malls...
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but it concealed
a bitter aftertaste.
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Claes Oldenburg made supersize,
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floppily repulsive hamburgers
out of stuffed cloth
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as if to lay bare
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the excesses provoked
by the rise of fast food chains.
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The dot matrix language of comics
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inspired the work
of Roy Lichtenstein,
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but always with an uneasy sense
that the modern world
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was simplifying human emotions
to cartoon stereotypes.
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James Rosenquist created vast
canvases of collaged images,
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poster-bright impressions
of the modern world,
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mimicking the vomitous splurge
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of America's
yowling jungle of signs.
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Like most pop artists, Rosenquist
began as a commercial artist,
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part of the very establishment
that he would go on to parody
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in his later work.
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Now 77,
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Rosenquist is one of the last truly
great surviving pop artists.
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And he's still making
his vast pictures.
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Here's a late number
I did this year.
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It's called,
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"The Richest Person
Looking At A Universe...
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"Through A Hubcap."
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It's not THE universe,
it's A universe
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because there's many universes.
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In his early years,
Rosenquist earned a living
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by painting ads on the billboards
of Times Square.
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That's him, bottom right.
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I painted everything you can imagine
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in Times Square,
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from food,
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to movie stars,
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to everything.
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I mean, you know, when I was painting
big movie stars,
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their heads were as wide
as this room.
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So I'd paint the hair down
to the eyelid, right here,
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it was a good place to stop
for blending skin.
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Then after lunch,
I'd paint from the eye
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all the way down cheeks
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which were multicoloured pastel
things,
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down to the corner of the lips.
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Paint the top lip,
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and then next morning finish the job.
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You took all that and put it
in your art, billboard scale,
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colours that shout at you,
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images that shout at you,
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was there a part of you that
actually was in love with that,
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that was seduced by it?
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No, I thought they were terrible!
They were like...
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eyesores!
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Since I was a kid I listened to,
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# Rinse so white rinse so white
Happy little wash day song... #
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I hated fucking advertising.
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I hated it all my life
and here I was,
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painting gigantic
advertisements in Times Square.
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So I began to think,
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"Can I take
fragments of billboard imagery,
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"assemble them in a picture plane,
that meant nothing."
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If you look hard enough,
it means nothing.
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Are you saying to me
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that those wonderful,
huge, early works,
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are you saying that they are
in a sense anti-billboards,
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kind of cutting against...?
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Exactly, exactly.
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This enlarged imagery
is really empty.
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And that's what I wanted to show.
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The one pop artist whose work
seemed to embrace consumerism
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was Andy Warhol.
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He took America's most familiar
mass-produced objects
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and re-presented them as art,
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an art of numb repetition
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that mimicked the production line.
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His critics accused him
of selling out,
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but they didn't get
the true starkness of his message.
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There's a common misconception about
Andy Warhol,
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the idea that he was
a mere gimmick-monger,
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a trickster on
the New York art scene,
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a man purely obsessed by celebrity,
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status and money.
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But it's not true.
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Andy Warhol...
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was, for my money,
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the single most significant
American artist
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of the second half
of the 20th century,
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a great philosopher, describer,
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a man who really understood
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what it was that made
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this new,
post-war American civilisation
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unlike any other civilisation
that had preceded it.
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In this world there's variety,
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but only of a certain kind.
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That's the subject of this,
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one of his earliest
series of pictures
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I think it's one of his greatest
series of pictures,
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the Campbell's soup tins.
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We begin with tomato soup,
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vegetable soup, green pea soup,
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we come all the way through
to bean with bacon soup,
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cream of chicken soup,
turkey noodle,
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minestrone Italian style
vegetable soup,
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new "great as a sauce too"
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Cheddar cheese soup.
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You can have all this,
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but then again everyone
else can have all this too.
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It's variety, but it's also a trap.
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And I love the way that the
paintings are laid out,
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almost as if they're lining a cell
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that you can pace,
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but you can't ever escape from.
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I think this
is Warhol's way of saying,
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"This is your world, America.
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"This is the prison
you've made for yourself."
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To help him generate
his mass-produced art,
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Warhol surrounded himself with
a group of free spirits
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in The Factory,
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his aptly-named
Manhattan studio.
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It was THE hip
hangout for bohemians,
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speed freaks,
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anyone hoping to attain
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Warhol's 15 minutes of fame.
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So glamorous! Oh!
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One of The Factory stalwarts
was photographer Billy Name,
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who started out as Warhol's lover,
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but quickly became the visual
chronicler of The Factory scene.
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45 years on,
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Billy lives in the town
of Poughkeepsie
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in upstate New York.
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These are actually
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silkscreen prints of some
of my photographs.
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Here's Andy on the telephone.
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Now what's more important
than Andy on the telephone?
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In the early years especially,
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he was always on the telephone.
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You were the original
fly on the wall,
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I mean, in the sense that
you were so ever present
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people just stopped seeing you.
I was.
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They stopped seeing you, you
could just record what was going on.
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I just could live there, be there,
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and no-one would even pay any
attention to me.
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And I did know Andy from the time
he was a commercial artist,
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through the transition period to when
he was a celebrated fine artist.
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So I went through
that whole period with him.
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So I've known all the changes,
all the Andys and...
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All the Andys! I like it!
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If you wanted to explain to somebody
who'd never heard of Andy Warhol,
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you know, who never knew
who this guy was,
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you know, what would you say the
point of those Brillo boxes
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and those Del Monte boxes,
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you know, remade and presented
as works of art?
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What was he trying to say,
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or what were you all trying
to communicate with this?
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Well, what we were trying
to say was that
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you live in art.
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You go to the supermarket
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and you go down the rows of cans
and they're all just
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stacks and stacks
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of icons on your shelves,
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and you're living in art.
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And Andy was fascinated
with the lucidity of repetition,
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the absolute clarity
of what you can see
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because in a supermarket they really
want you to see what's there.
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And so we produced
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these boxes like the Brillo box
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in a numerous occasion
so you saw what was there,
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and you could not escape
the Brillo box
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and the reality of it.
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I think of him as almost
like a mirror,
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I think of his art
like a mirror. Yes.
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It's like, "Look, this is your
world, I'm mirroring it to you."
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He is, yes.
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The older artists considered
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the artist as a hero
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whereas when Andy came,
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he was the artist as a zero.
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The previous generation had been,
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turn your back
on the surface culture,
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you don't want to deal
with that, it's cheap,
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it's shallow,
and don't go into that water.
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Whereas Warhol would say,
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instead of turning our back on it,
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let's just turn around, face it,
and take it over and manipulate it.
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Warhol saw that America
treated celebrities
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just as it treated products,
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as objects replicated
for mass consumption.
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A single image,
screenprinted over and over,
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evokes a row
of magazine covers,
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the frames of a film,
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a stack of TV screens.
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But Warhol's most powerful work
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is his "Death and Disaster"
series, begun in 1962.
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Race riots.
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Atomic bombs.
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Electric chairs.
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Car crashes.
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All are made
from actual press photographs.
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In America,
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even death is reproduced
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and homogenised.
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I think what Warhol was driving at
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in those pictures was the way in
which the big media,
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television and the newspapers,
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were desensitising Americans
by exposing them continually
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to horrific images,
whether of war, or of car crashes.
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Warhol said in relation to the car
crash paintings,
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"When you see a gruesome image once,
it shocks you,
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"when you see it again
and again and again,
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"you stop thinking about it,
it stops bothering you".
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I think he felt that something
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strange and bizarre and unpleasant
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was happening
to the American psyche,
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he felt that Americans
were being desensitised.
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Perhaps his darkest statement of all
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was simply when he said,
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"I think in the 1960s,
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"Americans forgot what emotions
were supposed to be,
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"and I don't think
they've ever remembered."
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Warhol portrayed the car
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as just another
of America's morbid machines,
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mass producing road crash deaths
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for tabloid readers to gawk at.
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But others saw the car
in a far more romantic light.
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It was a way to leave behind
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the suburbs
and the shopping malls...
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..and disappear
down the endless open road.
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As Jack Kerouac wrote,
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"Nothing behind me,
everything ahead of me,
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"as is ever so on the road."
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For several generations
of American artists,
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above all American photographers,
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the car on the road,
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becomes, literally,
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a mobile studio-cum-darkroom,
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from which...
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a whole series
of photographers create
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a set of disconcerting,
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kaleidoscopically fractured images
of America, all seen
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from the perspective
of the two lane blacktop.
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When pictured from a car,
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the subtle differences and
dissonances of American society
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often became more apparent.
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The road photographers showed
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that within Warhol's
mass-produced society,
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same church,
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same shopping mall,
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same gas station,
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there was still room
for the individual.
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And that people who seemed rootless,
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alienated and unhappy,
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still travelled on in
search of a better life
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somewhere else.
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Because in one form or another,
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the trailblazing spirit
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still lived on in America.
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PRESIDENT JOHN F KENNEDY:
'We choose to go to the moon
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'because that challenge is one
we're willing to accept,
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'and one we intend to win.'
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As the US and Russia raced skywards
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to reach the furthest
frontiers of space,
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ordinary men and women
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followed their astronaut heroes
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from the comfort
of their living rooms.
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But for anyone in search
of their own frontier,
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American history favoured
just one direction -
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west.
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A century after the last pioneers
trekked across the continent,
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the west was still seen
as the direction of progress -
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the future.
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And if you kept going west,
you reached Los Angeles.
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In the '60s,
it was one of the youngest,
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fastest-growing cities in America,
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home to Walt Disney's
first theme park,
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and of course, Hollywood.
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Here, the car was not only
a symbol of freedom,
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it was a necessity,
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the only way to navigate
a city so vast,
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so strung out.
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I'll never forget the first time
I came to LA,
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I was very young, it was
a very long time ago.
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I rented a Buick and I set off
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with naive enthusiasm
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to find the centre
of this great megalopolis.
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After about three days
of driving and driving
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and driving and driving,
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the penny suddenly dropped,
I realised
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this is a city
that doesn't HAVE a centre!
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What it's got
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is a huge sprawl
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of districts and neighbourhoods,
seemingly the same as each other,
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all linked together by a vast
spaghetti of a road system.
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I have to say I hated
the whole experience,
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I found it thoroughly alienating.
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I just couldn't cope with it.
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Now over the years,
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I feel I have learned,
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actually, to appreciate
and enjoy this place,
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and I now think of LA as one of the
most thrilling, vibrant,
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visually exhilarating
built environments
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ever created by mankind.
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But it took something to unlock
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that in me,
and what that something was,
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was the art created by painters
who've lived here in LA,
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it was looking at how
they painted the city,
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at how they saw the city,
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that taught ME how to enjoy it.
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For artists, LA was a place
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free of the long, European oriented
history of the East coast,
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a blank canvas
on which to experiment.
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The quality of light
was different here.
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Richard Diebenkorn saw the city's
bright planes of colour,
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the sky, the sea, the tarmac,
and distilled them in paint -
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romantic images that borrowed from
cubism and expressionism,
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to conjure an abstract beauty
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from LA's endless samey sprawl.
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Wayne Thiebaud's candy-coloured
objects of desire
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captured the plastic brightness
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of LA's must-have pop culture,
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a sickly-sweet temptation.
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And Ed Ruscha used advertising's
flat graphic shorthand
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to pick out
some of LA's defining images.
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Back in '56,
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Ed Ruscha had left Oklahoma City
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to follow the same route
as countless wannabe starlets,
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west to LA.
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His pop art paintings
of the Hollywood sign
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seem at first glance to glory
in the thrill of Tinseltown,
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in this case
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a big screen sunset as seen
from behind the sign,
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up in the Hollywood hills.
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It doesn't take long to realise,
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in fact pretty much as soon as you
get here
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you realise you can't actually
achieve the point of view
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suggested by Ruscha's painting
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because he's placed
the Hollywood sign
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on the summit of a hill
that doesn't actually exist,
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the sign's on the side.
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I think that's part of the joke
of the painting,
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I think it's an affectionately
artificial play
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on the artifice that he saw
as being central
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to this whole culture.
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He saw the Hollywood sign as,
if you like,
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the quintessence
of Hollywood itself.
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As he said with a mixture
of affection and irony,
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"This is what Hollywood is,
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"a piece of fakery
held up on sticks."
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LA in the '60s
just loved artificiality.
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From the unfeasibly tall
imported palm trees
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to the shape of the buildings,
this was a city inventing itself.
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Its unique new architecture
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was known as Googie.
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Cheeky, referential,
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evoking a stack of jukebox records,
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or the speedfins of a Cadillac,
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it borrowed from the language
of the car,
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the space rocket,
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the subatomic particle.
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This was modernism
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for the space age.
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I think the only way to really get
the crazy beauty of LA
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is to drive through the city
at night.
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When you do that,
you realise this whole place...
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..is a kind of extraordinary,
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vast collective work of art.
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And the reason for that, is the fact
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that this is a city where everyone
is always on the move.
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And that's why
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the architecture
and the signage of LA
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has to shout
in the way that it does,
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00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,480
because it needs you to stop.
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00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,880
It's saying, "Hey, buddy,
come and buy my liquor,
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00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,000
"come and get some gas,
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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,440
"enjoy the live nude girls,
girls girls!"
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That's why this is,
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00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,520
more than any other city
in the world,
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00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,520
it's the city of the sign.
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As the signs and symbols
of advertising
511
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,240
crowded in ever closer
on American life,
512
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720
so pop art had mirrored the excesses
513
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120
of capitalism's increasingly loud,
514
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,920
evangelical gospel -
515
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,960
to consume.
516
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,920
But a new wave of artists
was emerging,
517
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,120
who seemed to reflect a more
puritanical side
518
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,160
of the American character.
519
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040
They were known as the minimalists.
520
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,840
They shared the pop artists' cool
disdain for consumer society,
521
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,320
but took a profoundly different
approach to it in their art.
522
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880
What the minimalists
hated about pop art
523
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,880
was its apparent celebration
of the bright,
524
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,160
gaudy, tacky packaging
525
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,240
in which American consumerism
wrapped itself.
526
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200
Its embrace of the whole ethos
527
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,880
of mass marketing and advertising,
528
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,680
the ethos of buy two get one free,
57 varieties, the hard sell.
529
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,920
The minimalists
didn't avert their gaze
530
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,280
from characteristic spaces
of American life
531
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,480
but they looked
at them with different eyes,
532
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,560
like Andy Warhol with
his Campbell soup tin paintings,
533
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,640
they drew inspiration
from the supermarket.
534
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,800
And while they purged
535
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,080
and purified it of colour,
536
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,280
image,
537
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,480
detail,
538
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,320
packaging, they still retained
its strategies and its forms.
539
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,400
Theirs would be an art
540
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,080
made from mute accumulations
of objects,
541
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,920
carefully composed,
542
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880
rigorously arranged,
543
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,400
neatly stacked.
544
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,080
The minimalists reflected
the coldness of consumerism,
545
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920
with the formal coldness of a new,
546
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,000
scarily empty, art.
547
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200
A gallery full of their work
548
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,240
is like a supermarket where the
products can't actually be consumed,
549
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,320
only contemplated
550
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,840
in all their blankness.
551
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000
Minimalism is a good name
552
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040
for their vision of what
American life had become,
553
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,080
a life dominated by objects
without meaning,
554
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,120
without hope of transcendence.
555
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,160
And yet, even in minimalism's
rather bleak universe,
556
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,960
there was room, perhaps, for hope,
557
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,960
for dreaming,
558
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360
for light.
559
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,200
In 1963, artist Dan Flavin
began creating sculptures
560
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,360
using nothing but that ubiquitous
modern lighting unit,
561
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800
the fluorescent tube.
562
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,600
As a gallery for his work, Flavin
bought this former Baptist Church
563
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,400
in the town of Bridgehampton,
Long Island.
564
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080
Flavin's astonishing luminous art
565
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800
is perfectly minimal, in one sense.
566
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520
He's taken an element
of modern life,
567
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,360
common to supermarkets,
offices, even seedy motels,
568
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,680
and emptied it of meaning,
569
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,720
used it to create a series
of implacable geometric forms.
570
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,920
But why put all this in
a deconsecrated church,
571
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,240
and arrange it
like a series of chapels?
572
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Though Flavin denied any spiritual
aspect to his work,
573
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520
it's surely significant that
he'd studied for the priesthood
574
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,760
before becoming an artist.
575
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Is there a nostalgia here,
576
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,840
a yearning for divine light
577
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,040
to pierce the godless soul
of modern life?
578
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Or is he saying that the very idea
of religious transcendence,
579
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,800
is nothing more than an illusion,
580
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,480
like a neon sign
to be switched on or off?
581
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920
You can read it either way.
582
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,960
By the late 60's, a succession of
shocking clashes with authority
583
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,440
was beginning to unravel the fabric
of American society.
584
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,640
Civil rights marchers
were beaten by police,
585
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,280
students protesting
against the Vietnam War
586
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,200
were gunned down
by the National Guard.
587
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,720
Faith in the established order
588
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:32,400
was crumbling.
589
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Until now artists
in post war America
590
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,280
had expressed their unease
with society
591
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,400
in cool, ironic terms -
592
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,800
pop's hard realism,
593
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,040
or the chilly objectivity
of the minimalists.
594
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,440
But now the sheer atrocity
of the times
595
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,640
demanded a radical new response.
596
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,840
For years, Philip Guston had painted
subtle, tasteful compositions,
597
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920
like this of 1953.
598
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,120
He was of the old
pre-pop, pre-minimalist school,
599
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,760
the abstract expressionists,
600
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,400
rising above the mundanities
of modern America
601
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,760
to search for higher truths.
602
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,920
But by the end of the '60s
603
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Guston felt he could no longer keep
the world out of his art.
604
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640
"What kind of man am I", he said,
605
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,720
"reading magazines, going into a
frustrated fury about everything,
606
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:30,120
"and then going into my studio
to adjust a red to a blue?"
607
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,200
So he began producing angry,
comic-book satires,
608
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,680
a shocking seismic shift
609
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,320
that would change the course
of American art itself.
610
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,800
Guston's daughter, Musa Mayer,
611
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,280
has preserved his studio
pretty much as it was.
612
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080
So this is the studio.
613
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,600
It feels to me
almost as if he just left here!
614
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,400
The painter's table,
still spattered with paint.
615
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,360
I love it when there's paint
on the floor. Yes...
616
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,480
I always think of...
..we left it.
617
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,560
..it somehow
as painter's blood.
618
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,200
There it is, all the effort.
619
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,840
You've left the paints
and the brushes neatly arranged...
620
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Yes, and that cabinet
is full of old paint.
621
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,720
Still? Still full
of old paint, yes.
622
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,240
But tell me, because what
I'm curious to know is,
623
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,200
when he made this great shift,
this great change,
624
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,440
this new start,
had the first exhibition...
625
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,960
..what was the response, what did
everybody in New York think,
626
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,640
you know, when they turned up,
627
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,560
and there it is, the new work?
628
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,920
Well, very negatively, actually.
629
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,760
Almost universally,
630
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
the critics panned the new work,
631
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560
they were really shocked.
632
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000
But when you look at, say,
a picture like this,
633
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,160
the Ku Klux Klan,
634
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,600
what's it called this one?
635
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,440
This is called Riding Around.
636
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,800
Riding Around. I mean,
637
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120
what do you think he was driving at
by painting pictures like this?
638
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,000
He had a whole cast of characters,
he called them characters.
639
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
And they were hooded
figures,
640
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,080
and yes, they resembled Klansmen,
641
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,880
but they have a broader meaning,
I think, that has to do
642
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,760
with concealment and...
643
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,040
what we reveal, and don't reveal,
about ourselves.
644
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Do you think
having these hooded figures,
645
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,160
smoking their cigars,
646
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,720
is his way of saying,
647
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,560
"America is a place where people
are concealing things,
648
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,680
"concealing the truth from you.
It's a place full of bigotry,
649
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,080
"full of racism, it's a place..."
It could be.
650
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,040
I mean look at the blood
on the hoods there. Oh, yeah, right.
651
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
So they're definitely up to no good.
652
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,000
I get the feeling that in a sense,
with this late work
653
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,840
it's as if he's almost
654
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,080
popping the boil of his own
frustration that's been building up,
655
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200
it's like he's lancing it,
and all this pus is coming out,
656
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,160
which is sort of...
Good metaphor!
657
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,600
You brought out this picture.
658
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,320
So this is Nixon, with phlebitis,
which he was plagued with,
659
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,920
at San Clemente, which was his
retreat on the beach in California.
660
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,840
What do you think it symbolised for
your dad, I mean this pussy leg?
661
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Is it the corrupt administration?
To me it looks like a map.
662
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520
Doesn't it look like a map to you?
In a way.
663
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,600
I've always thought that this
is like the body politic.
664
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,240
Oh, that's a brilliant idea,
665
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:29,080
so this is America, seeping pus...
666
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Seeping pus and blood,
667
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,160
with the state lines drawn
in blood and pus.
668
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,640
That's a brilliant idea,
hadn't occurred to me.
669
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,440
So it really is a portrait
of America,
670
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,760
and he's got the American flag.
671
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560
I like to think this is almost
a little embedded reference
672
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,600
to Jasper Johns' flag paintings,
the flag, but it's the flag melted,
673
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,720
it's somehow gone rotten
and there's Nixon, literally,
674
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,880
presented as a dickhead,
675
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,280
with a cock for a nose
and two testicles for cheeks.
676
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,800
I mean it's such a sort of
vicious, satirical,
677
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,680
angry picture isn't it?
Yes, it is.
678
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,920
And I notice that you've placed
this wonderful picture...
679
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,520
pride of place, centre stage. Yes.
680
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,640
I'm guessing that it has a special
place in your heart?
It does, it does.
681
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,840
In a sense
it's a self-portrait.
682
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Um...it's a self-portrait
of a self-portrait.
683
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,320
The artist, the hooded figure.
684
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Because he acknowledged the...
dark side of himself.
685
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,720
He painted the dark side of himself,
he had the courage to do that,
686
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,840
which is something not many artists
at that time were able to do.
687
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,320
'Guston's disconcerting paintings
688
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,760
'tore up the rule book
of American art.
689
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,840
'Until now,
movement had followed movement
690
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,960
'in a seemingly inevitable way -
691
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,200
'abstract expressionism,
pop, minimalism.
692
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,640
'But after Guston
anything was possible.'
693
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,720
Postmodernism was the label
critics tried to stick on
this new uncertainty,
694
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:13,080
but all that
meant was that, from now on,
art can be about anything you want.
695
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,960
It was a reflection of what was
happening in American
society in the '70s -
696
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,920
the rise of the individual.
697
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,840
Black power, gay rights,
women's lib.
698
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,320
The emergence of marginalised,
hidden voices.
699
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,920
And art became a means of exploring
those newly formed identities,
700
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,360
whether through the street language
of graffiti
701
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,720
or the unflinching eye
of the camera.
702
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,960
In 1978, a 25-year-old
photographer called Nan Goldin
703
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,120
moved from Boston
to Manhattan, New York.
704
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,560
She came to the Lower East Side,
then an extremely shabby district,
705
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,160
because she was fascinated by
its subculture,
706
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,000
a mix of drag queens,
heroin addicts and all other
kinds of social outsiders.
707
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:19,120
Nan Goldin photographed herself
and the people she knew,
708
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,720
in tenement buildings
just like this one.
709
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:26,000
Her pictures documented
intimate moments,
710
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,280
intentionally raw,
unaltered, unstaged.
711
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,320
She set out to capture
her friends' lives,
712
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,360
often lived in secret,
behind closed doors.
713
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
And when some of her friends
began to die of AIDS
714
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,160
she documented that too.
715
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,360
But these pictures
weren't voyeurism -
716
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,280
they were Goldin's
chronicle of her own life.
717
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,440
She said,
"My camera has saved my life.
718
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,240
"It's made bearable things that
feel unbearable."
719
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,840
When I think of Nan Goldin's work,
720
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,280
I can't help thinking back to
Jasper Johns' White Flag,
721
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:16,680
that image of the American flag,
almost as a...as a quilt laid down,
722
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:22,080
smothering the teeming multiplicity
of America's many voices
and many cultures
723
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,960
and I think her achievement
was to...
724
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:31,640
was almost if you like to...
lift a corner of that sheet
725
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,560
and reveal this
hidden, secret, quite dark world,
726
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,120
but to do so in a beautifully
affectionate and vibrant way.
727
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,920
When Ronald Reagan was elected
president in 1981,
728
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,360
he repackaged the American Dream.
729
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,120
In an echo of
1950s Levittown,
730
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,320
he believed the US could be made
great again through home ownership.
731
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,360
Now not only the marginalised voices
would be heard, but the voice too of
the little man -
732
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,480
aspirational middle America.
733
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,440
After all, if a B-list Hollywood
actor could make it as President,
734
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,800
then anyone could make it,
regardless of class,
background or taste.
735
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,400
The artist who most perfectly
captured that idea was Jeff Koons.
736
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,440
His work transfigured
the seemingly vulgar,
737
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,440
the telltale lapse of taste
of the nouveau riche.
738
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Most critics were horrified.
739
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Others saw a witty take
on eclectic materialism.
740
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,480
I think of Koons as
Andy Warhol take two,
741
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,520
but a Warhol who wants to liberate
Americans to wallow in their taste,
742
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,480
no matter how kitsch or obscene.
743
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,760
But it's hard to know
whether I'm right,
744
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,040
or whether Koons has his tongue
firmly in his cheek.
745
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Because if ever an artist
was deadpan,
746
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,760
more so even than Warhol,
it's Jeff Koons.
747
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,920
Andrew, how are you? I'm very well,
it's so nice to see you.
748
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,240
So what are you working on at
the moment, paintings or sculptures?
749
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,560
Well, you know, I'm always
working on sculptures
and paintings together
750
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,880
and I'm working on
a series called Antiquity right now,
751
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,720
so I'm just in the process of
finishing off some of the first ones.
752
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,960
I know this is a work in progress
753
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,640
but we've got a lot of, as it were,
your motifs here,
754
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,240
in the sense of the shiny
inflatable, the sexy girl,
755
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:47,040
this wonderful dolphin, and these
again all seem to me
756
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,240
to be playing into...imagery
that everybody likes.
757
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:56,480
So I think you've said to me in the
past that you want everyone to feel
they can participate in your work,
758
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,960
you don't want to exclude anybody
from it.
759
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,160
Well, a piece like this I think
an average viewer could look at...
760
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,440
My daughter Scarlet, who's only
one year old, was here at the studio
three days ago,
761
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:14,480
and I brought here in here and she's
just pointing, "Ah, ah...", you know,
and she loved the painting
762
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,440
and she was relating to maybe
the childlike quality of the monkey
763
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,120
or just the feminine quality
of the painting or the dolphin.
764
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,520
When you're that age, you're open.
765
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,960
I mean, it's just like...
766
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,640
I mean, there's nothing that
you're not open to,
767
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,960
I mean, you're open to everything.
768
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,720
And it's the opposite of being closed
down, that... "Oh, that's kitsch."
769
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,200
I don't believe in kitsch.
770
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,040
I believe in things that they
are as they are
771
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,560
and they're perfect as what they are.
772
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,720
And if lots of people like it,
what's wrong with it?
773
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:57,480
Yes. I see that as...
as being generous,
774
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,040
because what you want to do in life
is remove anxiety.
775
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,880
And the way you remove anxiety is
through acceptance.
776
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,760
My work always has been trying to
communicate to people that
777
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,880
it's all right to accept your own
history, your cultural history,
778
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:19,320
the things that you grew up with.
I grew up with little knick-knack
kind of little ceramic pieces.
779
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,840
My grandparents had it,
my parents would have had ceramic
lights. That's OK.
780
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,880
The painting that we had
above our fireplace,
781
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,640
which was just some commercial
painting of some little hut
out in a forest,
782
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,080
that's what I looked at
every evening. That's OK.
783
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:42,320
My father and mother made us feel
very much as though we were
participating in the American Dream,
784
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,800
that we were the middle class,
but there was always a sense
that we were moving up.
785
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,400
And I was always brought up to be
very self-reliant, self-sufficient,
786
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,080
and a lot of it's about
this sense of mobility.
787
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,760
Can I ask you about these huge,
almost billboard-sized photographs
788
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,160
of you making love
to your then wife La Cicciolina?
789
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,960
There was something weirdly pure
and innocent about it,
790
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,880
as if you'd taken pornographic
imagery and somehow made it
sort of innocent.
791
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,600
Were you trying to take that form
792
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600
and say, well, you needn't be
degraded by it, or...
793
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,000
You know, I still find myself
puzzling over those pieces.
794
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Yep. What I wanted to do was to make
a body of work
795
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,200
that communicated
the removal of guilt and shame,
796
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,720
because I'm dealing with cultural
guilt and shame.
797
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,280
So I tried to use the body,
and the insecurity that people have,
798
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,360
the guilt and shame
that they have with their own body,
799
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,800
to again communicate this state
of not having guilt and shame.
800
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,080
And that's the highest state
that art can take you.
801
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,400
And there's no judgment,
there's complete acceptance.
802
00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:00,920
However harshly most of the art
establishment judged Koons' work,
803
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,520
it scored a bull's-eye with wealthy
bankers and social climbers.
804
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,400
In fact, his work has
since commanded
805
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,480
some of the highest prices
of any living artist.
806
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,960
Economically, the '90s were
a bit of a rollercoaster.
807
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,320
But US confidence
was at an all-time high.
808
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
The old Soviet enemy had collapsed.
809
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,680
It seemed like the good guys
had won - game over.
810
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,040
America sank back into
a deep armchair of complacency.
811
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,520
And the quintessential
artistic expression of that
812
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,120
appeared, aptly enough,
not on a canvas,
813
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,120
but on millions of
television screens.
814
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,120
The Simpsons are hardly
a model family,
815
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:52,480
and the programmes exude a
corrosive cynicism about the ideals
behind the old American Dream.
816
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,760
Take Homer's advice
to his children -
817
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,840
"Well, kids, you tried and you
failed, the lesson is - never try."
818
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:05,040
And yet somehow the adventures
of this curiously yellow family seem
to me to announce a seismic shift
819
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,520
in the story of American art.
820
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,000
The whole show is saturated
with cultural references
of the broadest possible kind,
821
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,960
guest appearances are made
by characters as various
as the pop musician Jon Bon Jovi
822
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,400
and the reclusive artist
Jasper Johns.
823
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,040
But what the Simpsons says
first and foremost is that
anything and everything,
824
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,640
from Dunkin' Donuts
to the New York Philharmonic
825
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,360
can be considered legitimately part
of American culture.
826
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:41,880
The Simpsons reflected the cultural
overload of images streaming through
the media and the internet.
827
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,320
It became harder to tell,
through this information blizzard,
which way America was headed.
828
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,680
And then, on September 11th 2001,
the world changed.
829
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,400
The terrorist acts of 9/11
were a murderous outrage,
830
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,640
the public massacre of
thousands of innocent people.
831
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,160
And they were also planned
832
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,240
with a hatefully potent sense
of visual symbolism,
833
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:34,680
flying American planes
into American skyscrapers,
834
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:40,960
those towering symbols
of ascendancy, optimism,
835
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,840
the free market economy,
everything really that America
stood for in the 20th century.
836
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,520
And I think it had
a shattering effect
837
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,680
on this nation's sense
of its place in the world,
838
00:50:54,680 --> 00:51:00,080
I don't think it's
any exaggeration to say
there was America before 9/11
839
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,080
and there's America after 9/11,
and they aren't the same place.
840
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,920
Architect Michael Arad's
9/11 Memorial,
841
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,040
built on the site
of the World Trade Center,
842
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,400
is a solemn, heartfelt monument
to a great tragedy,
843
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,080
but also an
unintentionally startling sign
of America's lost confidence.
844
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:36,000
Two vast pits mark the exact
footprints of the Twin Towers,
845
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,640
powerful reminders of the horrifying
destruction that was wrought here.
846
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,160
But there's no sense of hope -
847
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:50,560
none of the old American spirit,
determined to survive
and overcome any challenge.
848
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Instead, a great wall of tears
flows endlessly down,
into the deepest pit of oblivion.
849
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,120
And when the light catches
these flecks of falling water,
850
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,320
it evokes the most awful
9/11 memory of all -
851
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,840
the image of those who chose
to jump to their deaths
852
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,800
before the towers collapsed.
853
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:26,160
The "War on Terror" and the economic
meltdown have created in America,
if not a sense of impending doom,
854
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,040
then certainly a national anxiety
that surfaces in art.
855
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,120
And if you want to take the
temperature of American art today,
856
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:41,240
there's no better place to come
than Brooklyn, home to a hive
of younger artists' studios.
857
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:47,520
In this warehouse,
a team of assistants help sculptor
Matthew Day Jackson
858
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,360
to produce work that tries to get
under the skin of modern
America's predicament.
859
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,880
These look like sort of
aerial views of cities.
860
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,920
Yeah, they're from a series
called August 6th 1945.
861
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,720
Is that the date of Hiroshima?
Yeah.
862
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,200
They're pretty amazing looking.
863
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,440
Yeah, these are all in a stage
before...
864
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,920
before they get, uh, burnt.
865
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,720
Burnt? Yeah, they get burnt.
I want them to be burnt uniformly,
866
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:20,200
as if to suggest that
there wasn't a detonation,
867
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,240
but just a sort of continuation
or an atmosphere of fire.
868
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,080
Are you going to film?
Actually, I have,
869
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,760
not to record the act
but to create an illusion.
870
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:35,080
So I'm not interested in the act,
but when you look down the side
of the painting,
871
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:40,120
tilt your head to the side,
that you can begin to see
streets and buildings.
872
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:46,400
And to see a rush of fire move
through the alleyways and streets.
873
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,520
So in a sense it's this idea
874
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,280
that when we invent nuclear energy
and when we invent the atom bomb,
875
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,160
we also invent this ability to...
876
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,760
Eradicate all life on planet Earth?
877
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,080
HE CHUCKLES
878
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Yeah, but it's also in terms of the
sort of mythology of the Cold War,
879
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,440
we believe that it's over,
it definitely is a much more
comfortable thought
880
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,200
than to think that it's just
continued and moved to
different places, and...
881
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,120
So you're sort of saying to us,
"Hey, did you forget that?"
882
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Oh yeah, totally, I think
that we have forgotten.
883
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:31,120
I'm intrigued by this,
I was just thinking that
if somebody didn't know your work,
884
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,120
it'd be pretty hard to guess
that the man who created these
pieces also created these.
885
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,920
Tell me what the skeletons are,
886
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,280
are they based on the
oldest ever found human skeleton?
887
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,520
No, there's a range of current
to three million years old.
888
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,440
And then from three million years old
back to current again,
889
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,840
but in one continuous spectrum,
in a rainbow.
890
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,160
So it's a kind of spectrum
evolutionary skeleton.
891
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,480
Yeah, if you were to take the toes
and tip them right next to
each other,
892
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:06,640
the colour of the toes are one step
away from the colour of those toes,
893
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,520
so that essentially it'd
create a sort of Mobius loop.
894
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,880
So I could almost imagine them
looping round and round. Yep,
for ever and ever and ever.
895
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,000
But if I walk it, I'm starting
with me, and I move through time...
896
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,880
1.5 million years to...
897
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,360
and then now you're probably like
three... Million years ago.
898
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,320
Yeah, and so
in terms of thinking about progress.
899
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,120
To move to a point in technology
900
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:36,920
where we've found this ability
to return ourselves
to a pre-technological past.
901
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,600
How do you mean?
Because we can blow the world up?
902
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,840
Yeah, but it's also in terms
of if that technology was
ever used in wide scale,
903
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,920
it wouldn't just destroy life,
904
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,920
but also all the tools that we've
used in terms of our evolution.
905
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,400
I see, so if I get it right,
if I follow the piece,
if I follow the spectrum,
906
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,520
if I follow the idea...
this small brain, Homo sapiens,
907
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,800
evolved to have such a large brain
that he was able to
create the possibility
908
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,200
of destruction on such a vast scale
that he would return himself back
909
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,520
to a state of primitive man.
910
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:20,040
I see quite a lot of apocalypse
in your imagination, but I do
also see it as exultation,
911
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,960
almost kind of maybe a certain kind
of laughter in the dark?
912
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,960
If that's the right phrase?
Yeah, yeah.
913
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Or as Ronnie James Dio might say,
a rainbow in the dark.
914
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,720
THEY CHUCKLE
915
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,960
Jackson is one of several artists
in America today who seem to
exude anxiety through their work,
916
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,600
as they challenge their country's
old assumptions about the
inevitability of progress,
917
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,240
the idea that all frontiers
must lead to a promised land.
918
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,600
In one sense,
they're part of a tradition.
919
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:04,000
For centuries, American artists have
played a vital part in shaping the
American sense of nationhood.
920
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,000
They've given visual form
to America's dreams and ideals,
921
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,880
they've questioned its ideologies,
922
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,240
and above all, they've tried
to define just what it is that
makes this civilisation unique,
923
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,680
unlike any to have preceded it.
924
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:28,000
Through it all, there's been
this sense that because America
was a nation unburdened by history,
925
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,480
it was the home of the new,
this was where the future was made.
926
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,960
But I think that's all changed.
927
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,080
I think many Americans fear
that they're no longer in charge
of their destiny,
928
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,880
that their destiny's
being shaped elsewhere.
929
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,520
And that's why so much
recent American art seems
so hesitant, so uncertain.
930
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,760
It's an art of questions,
not of answers.
931
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,560
And at the centre of it
lies one particular question -
932
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,720
what does the future hold?
933
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,000
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934
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