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Muhammad Ali is the most famous
sportsman who has ever lived.
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But he's also an American icon
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who has had a love affair with
Britain for nearly five decades.
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Over the next hour, and featuring
previously unseen footage,
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we'll hear from the friends he made
in this country...
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He used to stand outside that front
door...
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and do magic tricks for the kids.
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..from the reporters who followed
him...
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I got to like the man a great deal,
almost love him.
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..and from the British fighters who
faced him in the ring.
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He was taller than me, he was bigger
than me and he was a lot bloody
better than me.
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As he celebrates his 70th birthday,
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this is the story of what Muhammad
Ali made of his time in the UK.
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The cars are too small, the streets
are too narrow
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and I haven't seen as many pretty
girls like I do at home.
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We'll hear the tales of the ordinary
British people
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who have never forgotten their
encounter
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with the man they called the
Greatest.
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Meeting Muhammad Ali was probably
the best thing that's ever happened
to me.
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I've actually sparred with him. Not
many 17-year-olds can say that.
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Yeah, he's pretty good.
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ALL CHANT: Ali! Ali! Ali! Ali! Ali!
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Muhammad Ali made his last trip to
Britain in 2009...
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to meet the many friends he had made
in this country over the years,
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including his old foe - Henry Cooper.
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This is likely to be the final visit
by the former heavyweight champion
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who is now suffering from severe
Parkinson's disease.
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During his time here he travelled to
Hyde on the outskirts of Manchester
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and the hometown gym of one of
Britain's most successful boxers -
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Ricky Hatton.
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You come, you slip, you drop.
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Hook, bang and then back on the
outside.
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We tried to keep it hush-hush
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because we knew how poorly he is
now.
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But a few whispers must have got out
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because they cornered the streets
off.
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People were climbing up the
lamp-posts
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just to get a glimpse of him.
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He got out, they put the wheelchair
out
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and he threw it aside and said, 'I'm
walking into Ricky's gym.'
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And you could see what an effort it
was for him but that sums him up.
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He said, 'Hi, Ricky.' I thought,
'Oh, my God, he knows me.'
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ALL CHANT: Ali! Ali! Ali! Ali! Ali!
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Thanks, Muhammad. (CHEERING)
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I think whether it be people in
Britain, the United States or all
over the world,
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I think everybody loves Muhammad Ali
cos he made boxing what it is today.
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Ali is now an international sporting
hero
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and hugely popular in this country.
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But it wasn't always like that.
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He first came to the UK in 1963, then
a world heavyweight hopeful
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fighting under his original name
Cassius Clay,
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to take on local hero Henry Cooper.
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And he immediately antagonised the
British boxing public.
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From the moment he got off the plane
from America
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for that first fight with Cooper,
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Clay had been telling everybody,
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'He's going to fall in five'
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and he kept putting up his five
fingers,
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all the way leading up to the fight.
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Henry Cooper's nothing but a tramp.
I'm the greatest.
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He must fall in five rounds. If he
talk about me I'll cut it to three.
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He was an extremely brash
21-year-old
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and people in this country hated
him.
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(JEERING)
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This'll be no contest.
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This will be a total annihilation.
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Any special training? No special
training.
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Just be at the fight. I'm ready to
back up everything I'm saying.
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I'm through talking.
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This was a deliberate PR strategy
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developed by the young heavyweight
and his wily trainer Angelo Dundee
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to whip up interest in the fight.
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I knew about England. I knew what
type of individuals they liked.
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They liked the close-mouthed sort of
a guy
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that didn't brag or anything.
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I knew right away they weren't gonna
like my guy cos he talked.
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A lot of people are booing me and
making remarks at me on the street
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and that's just gonna make it hard
on Henry Cooper.
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We got some notoriety and some
publicity
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and we sold tickets - that was
important.
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Henry Cooper passed away in 2011.
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But he often talked about this famous
clash with his sons
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John and Henry Marco.
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That's you, isn't it? Yeah, that's
us. On Ledway Drive. Yeah.
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My first one. Yeah.
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And he told them that he took Clay's
showmanship with a pinch of salt.
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You know, it wasn't personal.
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Dad always used to say afterwards,
'He had a glint in his eye.'
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He didn't mean it. It was just his
way of selling things to the public.
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And it was a good way of selling cos
nobody had done it before.
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But Cooper was certainly the
underdog.
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Cassius Clay was the Olympic
champion,
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undefeated in 18 professional bouts
and about two stone heavier.
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The British boxer decided to even up
the odds - for the weigh-in at least.
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Dad was always lighter than Muhammad
Ali
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and Jim Wicks, his manager, decided
a good thing to do
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would be to put some lead weights in
his shoes and in his hands
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so that didn't give Ali too much of
a psychological advantage.
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Clay discovered his own source of
inspiration at the weigh-in
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which was staged at the London
Palladium.
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Clay found a...
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robe and a crown
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lying in the dressing room
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left over from the previous winter's
pantomime.
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So he stole it.
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He went in the ring with the crown
on his head.
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'Don't do that, we'll get killed.'
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But it was strictly tongue in cheek.
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We were having some fun. We had the
king, they had the queen.
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When the fight started Henry was
matching Clay
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and Clay was showboating a lot.
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It was a fight attended by many
celebrities.
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He noticed sitting at the ringside
was Elizabeth Taylor.
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Elizabeth Taylor had just made the
film Cleopatra.
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His eyes widened and he mouthed,
'Hiya, Cleopatra.'
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A few seconds later Henry hit him.
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(CHEERING)
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Everybody stood up because they
thought
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he'd never recover from that punch.
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Henry's hammer had landed seconds
before the end of round four.
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Clay was saved by the bell. But he
was still in trouble.
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When he hit my guy with a left hook
in the chin
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I knew I needed to buy some time.
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Angelo Dundee was accused of
tampering with Clay's glove
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to delay the start of the next round.
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Came back to the corner wobbly.
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I told the referee to come over.
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He can't go on because the glove is
split.
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The glove never was split. I just
opened it up a bit more.
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That quick thinking added a crucial
five seconds before the start of the
next round.
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People say it didn't make much time
but Dad said even if it's five
seconds
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when you're that fit you recover
straightaway so it made a
difference.
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Dundee is also said to have given
Clay smelling salts to revive him
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which would have disqualified his
boxer.
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Smelling salts was taboo. You're not
supposed to use it.
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But I happened to have a little
piece
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of smelling salts capsule in a towel
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and I was rubbing him with the
towel,
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nice and easy, under his nose.
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So I utilised the smelling salts.
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A revived Clay emerged for the fifth
round,
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the round in which he had predicted
he'd finish off Cooper.
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He caught Dad with a nice punch on
his eye
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and just opened his cut up and that
was the end.
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But as Dad said, it was part of the
sport in them days.
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You try and gain your man a bit of
extra time.
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Just good thinking of his manager.
That's what you pay them for, to
look after you in the ring.
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Cassius Clay had won his first fight
in Britain
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but he certainly hadn't won many fans
here.
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And it seemed the feeling was mutual.
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What are your impressions of this
little country of ours?
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Great Britain is a nice place
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but I'm from America, I'm not used
to it.
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The cars are too small, the streets
are too narrow. I like open spaces.
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I haven't seen as many pretty girls
like I do at home.
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Clay returned home to challenge Sonny
Liston for the world heavyweight
title.
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Sonny Liston was considered a
monster,
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an unbeatable monster.
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Clay outfought him. It was Liston
who quit.
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Clay became heavyweight champion of
the world.
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Coming up: Turning on the charm for
Britain's top chat show.
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You haven't got a mark on you.
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Hit and run away and live to fight
another day. (LAUGHTER)
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And the story of an unlikely
friendship
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on an Oxfordshire housing estate.
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The greatest person I've ever met.
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Not the fame.
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Not the boxing.
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I'm talking about him as a man.
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In 1964 Cassius Clay defeated Sonny
Liston
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to become the heavyweight champion of
the world.
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Immediately after the fight he
announced
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that he had changed his name to
Muhammad Ali
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and joined the Nation of Islam, a
radical Muslim group
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associated with outspoken black
nationalist leader Malcolm X.
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Two years later Ali headed back to
Britain
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for a title defence against Henry
Cooper.
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Cooper had knocked down Ali in 1963.
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But when the American returned three
year later with trainer Angelo
Dundee,
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he had become a major celebrity.
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(ALL TALK AT ONCE)
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When we first came to England, the
first fight,
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we could walk the streets, nobody
bothered us.
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But when he came back
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he had got to be a controversial
figure.
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We couldn't move.
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This fight captured the imagination
of the boxing public.
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The self-proclaimed greatest in a
15-round rematch with the best of
British.
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The excitement reached Henry Cooper's
suburban home
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and his five-year-old son Henry
Marco.
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When this fight was going on I
looked out of the window.
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You see all these people outside.
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That was really exciting. It made
you realise
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that something special was going on
and Dad just wasn't your dad,
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Dad was a famous sportsman.
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But Henry Cooper's Italian wife,
Albina, was no fan of his profession.
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Mum hated boxing.
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In '66 Dad was quite keen for Mum to
see the fight
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and Mum really didn't want to go but
she went.
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What made you decide to go and see
this particular fight?
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Because Henry's asked me to. He's
never asked me before
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to go to see any of his fights
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and I don't think I should let him
down.
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The fight was staged at Arsenal's
Highbury football ground
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in front of a sell-out audience of
40,000 boxing fans.
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The atmosphere had been whipped up
to almost frenzied proportions.
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COMMENTATOR: Here is Ali praying in
his corner
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before he comes out for round one.
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Henry was boxing quite well...
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but it was very clear that the
longer it went
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the more Ali was getting into the
ascendency.
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Cooper well short.
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He was the fastest heavyweight
there'd ever been
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and Henry couldn't catch him.
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Cooper couldn't get close to Ali.
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But the world heavyweight champion
was landing his blows
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to the dismay of Henry's wife in the
crowd.
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There's actually photos of mum just
with her head buried in her hand.
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She hardly watched any of it.
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In round six Ali finally inflicted
the same damage on Cooper's face
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that had ended the fight three years
earlier.
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Yes, Henry Cooper's left eye is
badly cut.
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A fountain of blood shot up in the
air
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and cascaded over Henry's head and
shoulders.
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He was literally covered in blood.
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I shall never forget the look of
horror
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on Ali's face at what he'd done.
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But that lasted a split second,
being the great pro that he was.
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He immediately started jabbing away
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at Cooper's injury to try and make
it worse.
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COMMENTATOR: I'm afraid it's a very
bad cut.
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So it's all over.
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The great disappointment for Henry
Cooper.
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Dad was in his changing room getting
his eye sorted.
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There was a knock at the door and
Ali walked in
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and came up and shook Dad's hand and
said,
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'I'm sorry the fight had to end that
way.'
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And Dad said, 'Don't worry, that's
just the nature of the game.'
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The following day Ali headed down to
a London television studio
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to launch a new charm offensive.
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The British love affair with Ali
began in 1966
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after the second Cooper fight.
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Ali appeared as a guest on the
Eamonn Andrews Show
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alongside Noel Coward,
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Dudley Moore and Lucille Ball.
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That was the first time the British
public realised
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he wasn't a boastful, ugly American.
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I hate the sight of blood. It's not
my nature to just hurt a man
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once I see blood gushing from his
head like that.
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And it certainly was gushing.
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Did you ask the ref to stop it? I
mentioned it but he paid no
attention.
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(LAUGHTER)
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He was a very pretty American with
an immense amount of charisma.
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Muhammad, you haven't got a mark on
you.
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Hit and run away and live to fight
another day. (LAUGHTER)
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In this country we got to love him
quickly
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and we saw the irony in him
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and all became huge fans of his.
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In America, of course, people still
used to refer to him as Clay which
he didn't like.
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The British press were the first to
recognise his change of name and
officially call him Ali.
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Doesn't it annoy you when people
forget and call you Cassius?
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In the States and many places they
seem to be looking for trouble.
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'How are you doing, Cassius, old
boy?'
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(LAUGHTER) You know my name, fella.
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(LAUGHTER)
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'Hi, Mr Ali. I'm sorry.'
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Let's talk about the fight last
night, Cassius. Muhammad.
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Muhammad. I'm sorry. That wasn't
deliberate. (LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)
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I was mesmerised by him. The only
autograph I ever asked for was his.
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I've got it in a frame. I'm very
proud of it.
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I really got to like the man a great
deal, almost love him. He's a
fantastic guy.
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Ali had won over the British press
and the public.
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Next he had to beat another British
boxer.
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In August 1966 he was to take on
Brian London,
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nickname - the Blackpool Rock.
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I'm at Pontins holiday camp in
Blackpool.
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Not as a happy camper but to watch
Brian London of Blackpool
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prepare for the greatest fight of
his life.
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It was a big build-up.
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They thought I had a chance but...
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they made a mistake, didn't they?
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Brian London was a goodish
heavyweight.
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He was a very strong, physically
powerful man
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but he didn't have the kind of skill
that could cope with Ali.
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(CHEERING)
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He was big, he was fast...
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..and he could punch.
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And I was smaller,
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fatter...and couldn't punch.
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Stopped me in three rounds and that
was it.
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I don't think I hit him.
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It was good money and I got well
paid for it.
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That's all I fought for.
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Every fight I've ever had I've
always had a go.
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But with Muhammad Ali I thought,
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'Don't get hurt, Brian.'
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Didn't try.
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Which was wrong. Totally wrong.
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I wish I could live my life again.
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After retaining his title against
Brian London,
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Ali returned to America
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where his Islamic faith triggered a
major political storm.
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He defied the American government by
refusing the draft.
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He refused to go into the US
military...
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because he was against the Vietnam
war.
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And, of course, he was hated in the
United States.
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Ali was convicted of draft evasion
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and faced five years in prison.
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The New York State Athletic
Commission suspended his boxing
licence
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and stripped him of the title on the
day of his arrest.
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Most countries recognised that the
title was vacant except one - and
that was Britain.
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The British Boxing Board of Control
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regarded him as world heavyweight
champion until he was beaten in the
ring.
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And Ali never forgot that.
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That's why he had such an affinity
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with the British people and with
this country.
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Ali was banned from overseas travel
while he appealed against his
conviction.
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So British journalists flew to the
States to speak to him.
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I was reading a piece in England
just before I came over
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which described you as the former
heavyweight champion of the world.
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Is that a description you'd accept?
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I beat the best in England, Germany,
Canada and America.
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Undefeated in all of my professional
fights.
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Unscratched and unmarked by a human.
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So I pay no attention to a few
cigar-smoking,
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dried-up people, you know.
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My title was taken because of my
religion.
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Back in Britain a young bare-knuckle
boxer called Paddy Monaghan
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was outraged by the actions of the US
boxing authorities.
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It's a great injustice. He's
standing up for what he believes in.
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That's nothing to do with boxing.
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So I said, 'Something's got to be
done about it.
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What can be done? What can I do?'
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Then all of a sudden I thought,
'Well, a petition.'
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I ended up in three-and-a-half
years...
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..with 22,224 names and addresses...
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which I took to the United States
Embassy in London.
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In 1971 the US Supreme Court
rejected the charges against Ali
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on a legal technicality.
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He was free to return to Britain.
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He made contact...
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..thanking me for um...what I'd been
doing.
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'Keep up the good work.
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I'll see you next time I'm in
London. Muhammad Ali.'
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Later that year Ali headed over to
Britain to promote Ovaltine.
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ALI: I never realised how many
people I had following me -
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mainly old women and old men.
348
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Excuse me while I drink some
Ovaltine.
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(LAUGHTER)
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I always have my Ovaltine. How do
you mix it?
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(LAUGHTER)
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While he was in the country he got
together with Paddy Monaghan.
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We met up in the hotel. We were
laughing and joking together, got on
well together.
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We gelled. We liked each other.
355
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In the end he turned around, he says
to me,
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'Paddy...what is Ovaltine?'
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This was the beginning of a long
friendship.
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Over the years that followed,
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00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,680
Ali regularly visited Paddy's home in
Abingdon in Oxfordshire.
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Here family home movie footage
captured the times
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the most famous man in the world
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called in on this otherwise ordinary
estate.
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He's been down this street so many
times...I've lost count.
364
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,720
He used to stand outside that front
door...
365
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,640
and he used to do magic tricks for
the kids.
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00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,840
And then we'd go inside and we'd
have our own personal private visit.
367
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Me and him we'd be playing
around...right there.
368
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Sparring in the middle of the road.
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Laughing, joking.
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00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,040
I'm supposed to have a heart
condition.
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Memories. Memories I'll always
treasure.
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I miss the guy.
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The greatest person I've ever met.
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I'm talking about him as a man, as a
friend.
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00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,120
Not the fame.
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00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,080
Not the boxing.
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As a friend.
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00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,040
That's all.
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00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,000
Coming up: Yorkshire's finest winds
up the world champ...
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Every donkey likes to hear itself
bray.
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You want it?! Come on!
382
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040
I'm sat here with the greatest
fighter in the world
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and he's getting upset and I'm not.
384
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,880
..and Ali springs into action at a
Tyneside boys' club.
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He shook my hand and he knew he was
in for it.
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00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,360
And he backed off. That's what I
like about that.
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1974.
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Ten years after he had first been
crowned world champion
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Muhammad Ali prepared for a new tilt
at the title.
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00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,920
Ali was now 32 years old and a clear
outsider
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against the younger and more powerful
George Foreman.
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I'm the greatest scientific fighter
of all times
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and you rank up a street, bar-room
bum to beat me.
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00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,400
You must be out of your mind.
395
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,280
But he still had his fans in the
British press.
396
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,280
I'd gone against everybody else and
tipped Ali to win.
397
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Ali dropped Foreman in the eighth
round to regain his title.
398
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,400
And I'm afraid I did something very
unprofessional.
399
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,640
I actually leapt out of my seat and
punched the air.
400
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080
Just weeks after he had regained his
title in Zaire,
401
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,120
Ali flew back into Britain.
402
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,360
After a decade of regular visits to
the UK,
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00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:59,200
the heavyweight champion was now a
major superstar in this country
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00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,520
and had been booked in for his own
primetime TV show
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00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480
with host Dickie Davies.
406
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,680
I was informed that we were going to
do a programme with him.
407
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,440
Well, I was so thrilled
408
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,480
and nervous at whether I'd be good
enough to do it really.
409
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,920
Ladies and gentlemen, may I
introduce the heavyweight champion
of the world, Muhammad Ali?
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(APPLAUSE)
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And he came in and he was in such a
great mood.
412
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And the minute he looked at me and
he smiled...
413
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:36,160
..all the worry went.
414
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,240
I think when he came to this country
he seemed so at ease.
415
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,040
In many cases you can say Britain
can be ranked as number one
416
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,160
as far as supporting me is
concerned.
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00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,160
And the little hassles that I had in
the States,
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they paid no attention to them here
419
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,600
and they recognised me as their
champion.
420
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,640
The studio audience included Ali's
old adversary Henry Cooper.
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00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Oh, a terrible moment in my life.
422
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,800
Ooh. (LAUGHS) It was about 1963 when
that Henry Cooper hit me.
423
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,320
(LAUGHTER) I'll tell you what.
Henry, come up.
424
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,400
Can we have an action replay? I want
to know how it happened.
425
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,480
Henry still looks good too.
426
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,600
He don't have no fat on him or
nothing.
427
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,960
There was such fun between the two
of them.
428
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,120
They were having a giggle together,
you know. It was lovely.
429
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:23,160
I was in the corner. Come on, Henry.
He was going backwards. I was
jabbing.
430
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Bop. Ohh.
Boy, he's one of the good -
431
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,160
And that was it? Yeah, man. Fast.
432
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,200
He hit me so fast, he hit me before
God got the news.
433
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,200
They got on so well. Henry always
had a terrific affection for Ali
434
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,640
and spoke in such a glowing manner
about him. Loved him.
435
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,400
Another less famous boxer was in the
audience that day.
436
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,840
17-year-old Isaac Flemming had been
invited down from a North London gym.
437
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,200
Somebody at our local news asked me
438
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,200
if I wanted to go to meet Muhammad
Ali.
439
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,640
We said yes, we jumped to it, but we
didn't probably believe that it's
going to happen.
440
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,280
You see Dickie Davies and you
thought, 'This is real.'
441
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Let's look to the future for a young
man who badly wanted to see you.
442
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,320
His name is Isaac Flemming. He's a
young boxer.
443
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,360
He box? He boxes. (LAUGHTER)
444
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,320
I thought to myself, 'Why me?
445
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,640
Why are you calling me? Leave me
alone', you know?
446
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
What does he box - cigars, oranges,
grapefruit?
447
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,960
I was frightened. I was nervous and
frightened at the same time.
448
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,320
Put your hands up then block my jab.
449
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,600
How do you block this? Come on.
450
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,880
Come on, show me something. You
ain't nothing.
451
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Show me something. You tired
already.
452
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,440
Look at you. I'm hitting you
already.
453
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,160
All the girls are watching and I'm
beating you up.
454
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,880
Come on.
455
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,880
Yeah, he's pretty good. He's pretty
good.
456
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
It's something that I'll treasure
all my life.
457
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Just being there with him, you know,
in front of him.
458
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,040
It was brilliant.
459
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840
After beating George Foreman in 1974,
460
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the new world heavyweight champion
461
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,840
fought six successful defences in a
little over 12 months.
462
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,360
In 1976, the European heavyweight
champion,
463
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,240
Yorkshireman Richard Dunn,
464
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,480
was to get his chance at Ali's world
title.
465
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,400
The pair met shortly before the fight
at a London gym.
466
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,920
Ali came in. Right surprised.
467
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,680
And I'd made a bit of a poem up
about him.
468
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
And...and I got right up to his face
469
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,480
and I said, 'Muhammad Ali, I think
you're a square.
470
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,760
I'm gonna retire you to a rocking
chair.
471
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160
At 34 you ain't so young,
472
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,640
you're gonna get whipped by Richard
Dunn.' And that was my poem.
473
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,840
(INDISTINCT SPEECH) That's right.
474
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,720
First round to Dunn.
475
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Ali hit back with a typically
over-the-top press conference.
476
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920
(INSTINCT SPEECH)
477
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,200
I agree with you. He's the one!
478
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Every donkey likes to hear itself
bray.
479
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,800
He was blasting away and I just
said,
480
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,760
'Every donkey likes to hear itself
bray.'
481
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,480
He just jumped up.
482
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,440
I'm the champion of the world!
483
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Ranting and raving. And I just sat
there,
484
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,880
just quiet and content, you know,
thinking,
485
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440
'This is great. This is fantastic.'
486
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Come on!
487
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160
I'm sat here with the greatest
fighter in the world...
488
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,120
and he's getting upset and I'm not.
489
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,920
And as he was walking past me when
we'd finished he grabbed my elbow...
490
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,640
..and he says, 'Boy, are we gonna
make some mon-ey?' Then he was gone.
491
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Unfortunately, the fight itself, held
in Munich,
492
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,680
was a less even contest than the war
of words which had gone before.
493
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,400
I was not interested in survival.
494
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,280
I was interested in winning the
heavyweight championship of the
world.
495
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,160
When the bell went, I went out to do
my best -
496
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,840
hit him as often and as hard as I
possibly could.
497
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,400
He just got harder and faster.
498
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Instead of hitting me twice he'd hit
me three or four times.
499
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,960
I remember Richard Dunn was a big
tough guy...
500
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,480
and you're dealing with strength.
501
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,120
You don't fight strength with
strength but with agility.
502
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960
My guy kept nailing him and he kept
going down.
503
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,160
I got up every time I got put down.
504
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,720
And I thought, 'Well, the fifth
round
505
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,120
I'm going to go straight out and
have a real good go at him here.'
506
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Bang. Down I go again.
507
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,600
I was down five times altogether.
508
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,400
I got my arse kicked but that's
beside the point.
509
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,760
I enjoyed every single minute of it.
510
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Dunn might not have pulled off a
shock result in the ring
511
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,680
but a surprise was in store for him
when he returned to Britain the next
day.
512
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120
We got off the plane and there was
513
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,400
a big Rolls-Royce waiting for me,
open top.
514
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,000
And when we got to Bradford...
515
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,480
there was 10,000 people there that
day.
516
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200
And I couldn't believe it. It was
fantastic.
517
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,240
The following year Ali flew into the
northeast of England to a rapturous
reception.
518
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,240
He'd been talked into travelling
there by Geordie painter and
decorator Johnny Walker
519
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,200
to raise money for local charities.
520
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Some people thought you weren't
going to come.
521
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,360
Was there any reason for any doubts?
We always surprise people like
that.
522
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,320
They just can't believe that a...
523
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,080
common, everyday man like Johnny
Walker
524
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,000
can bring the world's greatest
fighter to Newcastle.
525
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,440
Ali visited a number of Tyneside
institutions including Grainger Park
Boys' Club...
526
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,000
..the oldest boxing gym in this part
of the world.
527
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Norman Close joined the club as a
promising welterweight in 1951.
528
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,480
And by 1977, when Ali visited the
area,
529
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,440
he had been appointed head coach.
530
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080
I was so happy, you know.
531
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,400
The world heavyweight champion, you
know, coming to Grainger Park.
532
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Norman introduced Ali to the
Grainger Park boxers,
533
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080
including his nephew, 19-year-old
Leslie Close.
534
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
I thought, 'Right, I've got to make
a name for myself.'
535
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000
As he shook my hand that's when I
went for it.
536
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,080
He shook my hand and he knew he was
in for it.
537
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,080
And he backed off. That's what I
like about that.
538
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,760
I says, 'Hey, Leslie, he's the
champion of the world. Behave
yourself.'
539
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Even when he was moving down the
line he was still giving me the eye.
540
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960
There's me thinking, right, he's
coming back at us
541
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,040
and Uncle Norm's arm's round him,
542
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,960
'Come on now, Ali, you've got to
meet the other boxers.
543
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640
You're not in Leslie's league yet.'
544
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,880
OK, lads. Get to your places. In the
ring, come on now.
545
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,440
First two in the ring.
546
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,640
Ali stayed on at the club for a
series of exhibition bouts organised
by Norman.
547
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400
He was on the end of the ring just
watching
548
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,240
and he was giving it all...
549
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,240
as though he was dodging every blow,
doing it himself.
550
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400
He was getting revved up to actually
be there.
551
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,240
I wanna box, I wanna box.
552
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,320
Leslie helped Ali into the ring.
553
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,240
I says, 'Will you put the gloves on
with one of the boys?'
554
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:25,400
He says, 'Yeah. I want someone with
a bit of fire in his belly.'
555
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,280
Where's our Les?
556
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Got Les in the ring and, of course,
got him gloved up.
557
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,520
'In this corner
558
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,760
is the world heavyweight champion
Muhammad Ali.
559
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,680
The challenger, from Grainger Park,
Les Close.'
560
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,640
(SHOUTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT)
561
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,160
And I don't know if you've ever seen
the speed of his fists.
562
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,040
He whizzes them around and then,
boomf, out it comes.
563
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,000
It's just unreal.
564
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,320
I've got one of these journalists on
the ringside saying,
565
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,240
'Calm down, calm down, you young
hoodlum. He's fighting next week.'
566
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:02,680
I'm thinking, 'No way. I'm 5'6".'
567
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,480
He could put us to bed any time he
wanted.
568
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,000
Shortly before the visit to the
Northeast
569
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,360
Ali had married for the third time...
570
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,400
and arranged to bless the wedding at
a mosque in South Shields.
571
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,680
19-year-old Mohamed Hussein was asked
by his father
572
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,280
to keep an eye on who was allowed
into the mosque.
573
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,040
The scene was just heads, people's
heads.
574
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Thousands and thousands of people
all wanted to get inside the mosque
575
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120
which I would only say can hold
about 200 people.
576
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,360
This is where his car came down.
577
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,720
It turned and parked just there.
578
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,680
(CHEERING)
579
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,040
He just looked great. Just white
suit, gold pendant, you know.
580
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Looked like something off Shaft or
something it was great, you know.
581
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,360
(CHEERING)
582
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,640
All of a sudden people start coming
through the gate.
583
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,280
I got pushed by the sheer weight of
the crowd
584
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,960
and I ended up in the main prayer
room.
585
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:25,520
He made his way with Veronica. The
imam was waiting
586
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,280
and they conducted the service.
587
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,240
(IMAM SPEAKS IN NATIVE LANGUAGE)
588
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,320
It wasn't a wedding as such, it was
a blessing of the marriage.
589
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,240
He chose to do it in our mosque and,
you know,
590
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,840
we felt good about it.
591
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,040
Ali completed his visit to the
Northeast
592
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,200
by taking questions from an invited
audience at a Newcastle leisure
centre.
593
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,440
I'd like to take this opportunity to
welcome you
594
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,680
to the Eldon Square Recreation
Centre.
595
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Could I ask you, Ali, what has been
your greatest impression
596
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,160
of the people in the city of
Newcastle since you arrived here?
597
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,560
Well, the greatest impression that
I've had here...
598
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,280
is the peace, the serenity,
599
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,280
the unity and the cleanliness.
600
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,800
I asked a policeman, 'Where's your
pistol?' He said, 'We don't need
that here.'
601
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,040
England is heaven compared to
America.
602
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,280
You all practice what people in my
country preach.
603
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,480
Coming up: Ali's health is called
into question on British
television...
604
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,000
All those heavyweight title fights.
Has it had any effect on you?
605
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,560
(SLURS) Yeah, it's made me...ten
times meaner,
606
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,800
the world's most recognised man.
607
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,960
..and one final emotional meeting
608
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,480
between the champ and a British
sporting hero.
609
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,760
It was quite poignant to see them,
610
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,080
both suffering in their own ways but
very happy to see each other.
611
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,760
By 1980 world heavyweight champion
Muhammad Ali
612
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,200
had been a professional fighter for
20 years.
613
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,600
The way he had stood up for his
beliefs
614
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,120
had won him millions of admirers in
Britain and around the world.
615
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,920
But his boxing career was drawing to
an inauspicious end.
616
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,720
Now 38 years old,
617
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,800
Ali defended his title
618
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,800
against his long-time sparring
partner Larry Holmes.
619
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,200
His body was... He looked like
Tarzan, for God's sake.
620
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,280
He looked like the old Muhammad,
with the build and everything.
621
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,320
But it was empty. It was an empty
tank.
622
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,120
I was sitting at the ringside and I
could see what was happening to Ali.
623
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,240
He was disintegrating before our
eyes.
624
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,880
COMMENTATOR: This is a sad Ali,
surely. He can't fight back.
625
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,200
And I have to say that was the only
time at any sporting event I've ever
shed a tear.
626
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,760
COMMENTATOR: Come on, Ali. Either
throw a punch or go down or...
627
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,200
He really can't linger like this.
628
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,400
He went back to his corner at the
end of the tenth round...
629
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,120
and Angelo Dundee, his trainer,
630
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,520
said, 'Look, I'm going to stop the
fight.'
631
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,960
Stop! It's over! Dundee has had the
compassion
632
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,840
to say that's it, he's the chief
second. He's right.
633
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
I think had Dundee not acted like
that,
634
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,720
Ali might well have lost his life
that night.
635
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,320
And that is a sad and sorry end for
Muhammad Ali.
636
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,760
Broke my heart...but it had to be. I
didn't want him to get injured.
637
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,160
So you do the best you can with what
you've got.
638
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Ali retired from boxing shortly after
the Holmes fight
639
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:03,400
with a record of 56 wins in 61 bouts.
640
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,960
In 1983 the former heavyweight
champion returned to Britain.
641
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:16,760
He visited Birmingham for the naming
ceremony of the newly-opened
642
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,720
Muhammad Ali Centre in Handsworth.
643
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,240
(SLURS) I'm a real freedom fighter.
644
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:27,320
I am the greatest.
645
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,240
It wasn't just...it wasn't just
because I'm boasting.
646
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920
I'm trying to say, 'We are the
greatest.'
647
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,480
(CHEERING)
648
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,120
But there were growing concerns about
Ali's medical condition.
649
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,160
He was asked about the rumours on a
local news programme.
650
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:47,560
There were all sorts of stories
going on about Muhammad Ali's health
651
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,680
but no-one had come out and asked
him.
652
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,600
And there he is sitting in my
studio.
653
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,200
And I just felt the moment was right
to ask that question.
654
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,920
Muhammad, a lot of people over here
are worrying about your health
655
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,160
because there have been consistent
stories in the newspapers
656
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
over the last few weeks that you are
not well.
657
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,920
(SLURS) I heard that I'm brain
damaged.
658
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,120
That's right. I heard I'm drugged,
I'm on narcotics.
659
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,640
It's terrible. Are these stories
about your health true as far as
you're concerned?
660
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,160
What about my health? Well, the
business about whether it's had any
effect on you,
661
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600
the punches that you've taken over
the years.
662
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,360
(SLURS) I...I don't recognise it.
663
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,200
The year after visiting Birmingham,
664
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,360
Ali revealed he was suffering from
the early stages of Parkinson's
disease.
665
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,120
As Ali's health has faltered over the
last three decades,
666
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,760
his visits to Britain have become
less frequent.
667
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,360
But his long relationship with this
country
668
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,440
and his amazing career in the ring
669
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,040
were to inspire generations of
British boxers.
670
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,160
When I was young, I was about eight,
671
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,040
and I was borderline getting myself
into trouble.
672
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560
But my dad always loved Muhammad Ali
673
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,760
and he wanted me to get involved in
boxing
674
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,240
COMMENTATOR: We're due for the Ali
shuffle any moment.
675
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,480
It looks to me as though he's
loosening up.
676
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,000
I never had his skill, I never had
his rhythm,
677
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,160
but I just had the vision I wanted
to be like him when I grew up.
678
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,320
Ah, yes. Oh, this is a brilliant Ali
now.
679
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,280
This is really back to his best.
680
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000
My first memories of Muhammad Ali, I
was about nine years old.
681
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,520
There was me and my five brothers
and my sister
682
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,720
all watching Ali in black and white.
683
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:37,440
COMMENTATOR: He starts the show-off
stuff. And he can afford to.
684
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,440
There was this guy on the TV,
dancing around
685
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,440
and it was just...just absolutely
brilliant to watch.
686
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,360
We'd watched other sports and seen
other athletes
687
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,760
but nobody had the sort of draw and
pulling power of Muhammad Ali.
688
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,040
COMMENTATOR: Ooh, that uppercut.
That was the damaging punch.
689
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,480
He was an inspiration when you saw
the videos
690
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,160
and all the great fights and what he
did for boxing.
691
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,200
COMMENTATOR: A repeated left-hand
there without reply.
692
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,240
People that didn't know boxing knew
Ali.
693
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,280
He is still the heavyweight champion
of the world.
694
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Ali received the ultimate accolade
from the British public in 1999
695
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,480
when he was voted Sports Personality
of the Century
696
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,840
receiving more votes than all the
other contenders put together.
697
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Thank you to the British people for
giving me such a great welcome.
698
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,880
I want to...thank all concerned for
the award.
699
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,200
I had a good time boxing.
700
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,400
I enjoyed it...and I might come
back.
701
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,360
(LAUGHTER)
702
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,160
Muhammad Ali made his last visit to
Britain in 2009.
703
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,040
One of the people he was determined
to meet was a man he encountered many
times
704
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960
during his five-decade relationship
with this country...
705
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,760
Henry Cooper.
706
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,120
They asked Dad if he would go and
meet with Ali.
707
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,600
He was excited. He hadn't seen him
for a long time and had heard he was
quite poorly.
708
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
(APPLAUSE)
709
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,320
Dad made a fuss of him and there's a
picture of them driving around
710
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,320
and Dad's holding his hand up so he
can wave to the crowd.
711
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,160
He said to me when we were coming
back in the car,
712
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,320
'To think what a supreme athlete he
was
713
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,760
and to see him in the state that he
is now.'
714
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,240
He found it quite hard.
715
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,880
Henry Cooper had health problems of
his own
716
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,840
and passed away in 2011.
717
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,600
Dad had been diagnosed with a heart
problem.
718
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,160
It was poignant to see them
together, both suffering in their
own ways
719
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,120
but very happy to see each other.
720
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Journalist Alan Hubbard had followed
Ali in Britain
721
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,520
since his first visit almost 50 years
ago.
722
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,560
2009 when he came here, I felt his
hand on my shoulder.
723
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,600
He looked down and said, 'It ain't
the same any more, is it?'
724
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,840
And he was right. He wasn't the same
725
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,280
and boxing wasn't the same. It never
has been.
726
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,520
DUNN: He was the greatest thing
since sliced bread.
727
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,320
There was no-one bigger in sport
728
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,960
anywhere in the entire world.
729
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,880
He was phenomenal.
730
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,000
The greatest fighter
ever, in my opinion.
731
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,120
History will remember him as the
greatest sporting icon of the 20th
century. The greatest.
732
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,400
As he celebrates his 70th birthday,
733
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Britain can look back at a 50-year
connection with Muhammad Ali.
734
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,840
It's a strong bond which has played
its own crucial part
735
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,120
in the creation of the most famous
sportsman the world has ever seen.
736
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,000
I don't mean to be boasting. It's
just hard... (LAUGHTER)
737
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,440
it's just hard to be humble when
you're as great as I am. (LAUGHTER)
738
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,840
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