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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,292 --> 00:00:17,161 Welcome back to the story of maybe the most 2 00:00:17,161 --> 00:00:20,196 maligned artist in the history of Motown, 3 00:00:20,197 --> 00:00:22,164 and I realize that's saying something. 4 00:00:22,165 --> 00:00:24,710 It's easy to forget that in the heady 5 00:00:24,711 --> 00:00:27,469 days of REO Speedwagon and Pink Floyd, 6 00:00:27,470 --> 00:00:30,472 the King of Punk-Funk, Rick James, 7 00:00:30,473 --> 00:00:33,675 was one of the biggest selling musical acts of the day. 8 00:01:05,141 --> 00:01:08,844 His biggest song, "Super Freak," started out as a kind of 9 00:01:08,845 --> 00:01:11,847 chauvinistic brag about his charmed life, 10 00:01:11,848 --> 00:01:14,716 and ended up symbolizing his fall from grace. 11 00:01:14,717 --> 00:01:18,085 Now, it's fair to say more people may know Rick through his appearance 12 00:01:18,086 --> 00:01:20,721 on the Chappelle Show than through his music, 13 00:01:20,722 --> 00:01:21,689 and that's a shame. 14 00:01:21,690 --> 00:01:23,658 But then again, 15 00:01:23,659 --> 00:01:25,626 cocaine is a hell of a drug. 16 00:01:25,627 --> 00:01:27,227 But, we'll get to that. 17 00:01:27,228 --> 00:01:29,697 We pick up the story where we left off, 18 00:01:29,698 --> 00:01:31,933 with Rick and his band on the mountaintop, 19 00:01:31,934 --> 00:01:36,838 preparing for that long and treacherous trek back down to Earth. 20 00:01:52,653 --> 00:01:54,187 We were bigger than life. 21 00:01:54,188 --> 00:01:57,457 They were just, uh... crazy, man. 22 00:01:57,458 --> 00:01:59,058 A little scary, too. 23 00:01:59,059 --> 00:02:01,160 I remember that distinctly. 24 00:02:01,161 --> 00:02:04,063 Nate Guido Hughes, his brother, Lanise, 25 00:02:04,064 --> 00:02:06,232 and bandleader Levi Ruffin 26 00:02:06,233 --> 00:02:08,802 came out of obscurity in Buffalo, NY 27 00:02:08,803 --> 00:02:12,438 to reach the epitome of funk fame with Rick James. 28 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:17,443 The cops wanted to arrest Rick as soon as he came out on stage. 29 00:02:17,444 --> 00:02:20,045 That happened everywhere, all the time. 30 00:02:21,081 --> 00:02:23,349 It was so jam packed in Atlanta, 31 00:02:23,350 --> 00:02:26,451 there would have been a riot if they even attempted to snatch him up 32 00:02:26,452 --> 00:02:29,321 So, they figured they'll wait 'til after the show 33 00:02:29,322 --> 00:02:30,723 to get him. 34 00:02:30,724 --> 00:02:33,191 Rick always left the stage towards the end of the show. 35 00:02:33,192 --> 00:02:35,360 But that night, he wasn't coming back out. 36 00:02:35,361 --> 00:02:38,197 He went and changed, put on some overalls, 37 00:02:38,198 --> 00:02:40,599 and put his braids in a Rastafarian hat, 38 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,835 and he walked out of the building. 39 00:02:42,836 --> 00:02:43,969 He was gone. 40 00:02:43,970 --> 00:02:46,204 His valet put on his boots, 41 00:02:46,205 --> 00:02:50,743 his cape, and came out dancing with his back to the audience. 42 00:02:50,744 --> 00:02:52,912 We were on stage cracking up. 43 00:02:52,913 --> 00:02:55,792 And the cops was on the side, ready to 44 00:02:55,793 --> 00:02:59,283 pounce on Rick as soon as he left the stage. 45 00:03:01,587 --> 00:03:03,387 After they beat the hell out of him, 46 00:03:03,388 --> 00:03:04,956 they found out it was his valet, 47 00:03:04,957 --> 00:03:07,892 and not Rick. 48 00:03:07,893 --> 00:03:09,961 Dumbasses. 49 00:03:09,962 --> 00:03:11,162 Oh, they hated us. 50 00:03:11,163 --> 00:03:12,964 They fucked him up, man. I told the guy, 51 00:03:12,965 --> 00:03:15,900 "You must really love your boss for you to pull this shit." 52 00:03:15,901 --> 00:03:19,003 One unit of law enforcement came to love Rick James, 53 00:03:19,004 --> 00:03:22,941 according to Levi, some of the local police back in Buffalo. 54 00:03:22,942 --> 00:03:24,770 At the height of his fame, Rick moved 55 00:03:24,771 --> 00:03:26,510 out of his Beverly Hills mansion, 56 00:03:26,511 --> 00:03:28,512 and moved his whole band back home. 57 00:03:28,513 --> 00:03:30,862 You know, there'd be a lot of women at the 58 00:03:30,863 --> 00:03:32,950 house, uh, drop in girls at any time. 59 00:03:32,951 --> 00:03:34,517 And I guess the cops had heard about us, 60 00:03:34,518 --> 00:03:36,954 so they'd come up to the house, knock on the door... 61 00:03:36,955 --> 00:03:38,956 but, you know, they're plain clothes and they'd come in, 62 00:03:38,957 --> 00:03:40,724 like, they gotta flash their badge. 63 00:03:40,725 --> 00:03:43,326 And, uh, they'd come over to the bar we had upstairs there, 64 00:03:43,327 --> 00:03:45,118 and they-they would bring all the drugs 65 00:03:45,119 --> 00:03:46,697 they took out the fucking lockers, 66 00:03:46,698 --> 00:03:50,067 the best evidence cocaine the world's ever seen 67 00:03:50,068 --> 00:03:51,802 because they wanted to be with the girls. 68 00:03:51,803 --> 00:03:54,738 And, uh, I kinda understood that, it was like a whorehouse. 69 00:03:54,739 --> 00:03:57,874 Well, it was a 30,000 square-foot ranch, 70 00:03:57,875 --> 00:04:02,644 with 28 bedrooms, a stable of Arabian horses, and 10 jet skis. 71 00:04:03,915 --> 00:04:06,482 So... kind of like a whorehouse. 72 00:04:06,483 --> 00:04:08,150 But that shit got old real quick, man. 73 00:04:08,151 --> 00:04:10,820 Because the cops start telling us all these... oh my, God, 74 00:04:10,821 --> 00:04:13,589 truthful things about what they would do to "suspects." 75 00:04:13,590 --> 00:04:15,357 "Man, Levi, you shoulda fuckin' been there. 76 00:04:15,358 --> 00:04:18,127 We beat this fucker, man, 'til he called out for his moms." 77 00:04:19,796 --> 00:04:22,231 I'm sittin' there lookin'... I mean, that shit ain't funny to me. 78 00:04:22,232 --> 00:04:24,133 Jesus Christ, man. 79 00:04:24,134 --> 00:04:26,035 These are the police, 80 00:04:26,036 --> 00:04:27,906 with the best drugs that they're, like 81 00:04:27,907 --> 00:04:29,639 I said, the world has ever known. 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,873 But, you know... 83 00:04:30,874 --> 00:04:32,875 they loved coming to Rick James' house. 84 00:04:32,876 --> 00:04:36,145 By the time Rick and the Stone City Band had made friends 85 00:04:36,146 --> 00:04:40,082 with the cops in Buffalo, they had found a new nemesis. 86 00:04:40,083 --> 00:04:43,318 A rival who would push Rick James for the rest of his life. 87 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,488 The artist known simply as Prince. 88 00:04:46,489 --> 00:04:50,659 Rick was the one that chose him to come out and open up on his tour, 89 00:04:50,660 --> 00:04:53,595 because he was released from the Rolling Stones tour, 90 00:04:53,596 --> 00:04:56,765 because they didn't care for him that much. 91 00:04:56,766 --> 00:05:00,636 Rick came to the band and asked, "What you think about Prince?" 92 00:05:00,637 --> 00:05:04,540 Rick's thing was, when he was coming out, there was no Prince. 93 00:05:04,541 --> 00:05:06,675 Now, Prince had some records. 94 00:05:06,676 --> 00:05:08,877 Prince was a little softer. 95 00:05:08,878 --> 00:05:10,646 But that shit was funky, 96 00:05:10,647 --> 00:05:13,248 and that shit was completely... 97 00:05:13,249 --> 00:05:14,683 different. 98 00:05:14,684 --> 00:05:16,484 Because a lot of white audiences came out to see Prince. 99 00:05:16,485 --> 00:05:19,854 And Rick was smart enough to realize that, like "Mmm okay, 100 00:05:19,855 --> 00:05:21,990 then we need to have this little kid on tour with us." 101 00:05:21,991 --> 00:05:24,525 This was his very first black tour. 102 00:05:24,526 --> 00:05:28,129 Black audiences loved Rick from the get-go. 103 00:05:28,130 --> 00:05:29,898 Different from Prince. 104 00:05:29,899 --> 00:05:32,533 The first time we met him, it was in Dallas. 105 00:05:32,534 --> 00:05:35,570 And, uh, we found out that he was gonna be opening and whatnot. 106 00:05:35,571 --> 00:05:36,871 And Rick said, "Here he comes" 107 00:05:36,872 --> 00:05:38,907 And-and I'm lookin'. 108 00:05:38,908 --> 00:05:42,376 And he comes in, and I'm-I'm still fucking looking, where is he? 109 00:05:42,377 --> 00:05:46,314 I'm thinkin' the cat's gotta be, like, 5'9", maybe 6' tall. 110 00:05:46,315 --> 00:05:49,950 And this little bitty son of a bitch walks in there. I said, 111 00:05:49,951 --> 00:05:51,851 "Goddamn, he's tiny!" 112 00:05:53,054 --> 00:05:54,455 He was down here. 113 00:05:54,456 --> 00:05:58,226 And he had on pink high-heeled fucking shoes... 114 00:05:58,227 --> 00:05:59,360 stunning. 115 00:05:59,361 --> 00:06:02,930 That little dude, that's Prince. 116 00:06:02,931 --> 00:06:04,932 You know, us being so tall, 117 00:06:04,933 --> 00:06:07,668 I mean, he-he seems like a-a dwarf. 118 00:06:07,669 --> 00:06:10,371 But he was so powerful on stage, you know? 119 00:06:10,372 --> 00:06:12,106 I liked the son of a bitch. 120 00:06:12,107 --> 00:06:13,674 He was funky as hell to me. 121 00:06:13,675 --> 00:06:16,043 But Rick used to get mad, 'cause I remember him saying, 122 00:06:16,044 --> 00:06:18,312 "That little motherfucker got me working hard." 123 00:06:18,313 --> 00:06:21,115 'Cause he was a bad little motherfucker, man. 124 00:06:21,116 --> 00:06:22,850 He was funky. 125 00:06:22,851 --> 00:06:25,953 Every show, Rick was on the side of the stage, watching Prince. 126 00:06:25,954 --> 00:06:28,088 Prince was on the side of the stage, watching Rick. 127 00:06:28,089 --> 00:06:31,024 They both understood where this shit was about to go. 128 00:06:31,025 --> 00:06:33,994 I think Prince, if he was in this room, god bless his soul, 129 00:06:33,995 --> 00:06:35,162 he would say it: 130 00:06:35,163 --> 00:06:37,898 Prince would do his show, then we'd do ours, 131 00:06:37,899 --> 00:06:42,002 and nine times out of 10, when we got finished with our show, 132 00:06:42,003 --> 00:06:44,772 people forgot who the fuck the opening act was. 133 00:06:44,773 --> 00:06:47,007 We used to kick his little ass every motherfuckin' night. 134 00:06:47,008 --> 00:06:50,443 I mean, we're blowing up shit on stage, pyrotechnics, and shit. 135 00:06:50,444 --> 00:06:51,678 Bitches and whatnot. 136 00:06:51,679 --> 00:06:53,413 We had ballerinas dancing and shit 137 00:06:53,414 --> 00:06:55,514 for us, man. You can't do that. 138 00:06:55,515 --> 00:06:58,117 - "Damn, who was opening up?" - "Oh yeah, that was Prince." 139 00:06:58,118 --> 00:07:00,686 They would forget when we got through with that ass. 140 00:07:00,687 --> 00:07:03,455 Prince would push Rick to step up his game 141 00:07:03,456 --> 00:07:04,957 in more ways than one. 142 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:07,960 Rick told me, when I became one of the background singers. 143 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:10,729 That he was starting a female group. 144 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:13,499 Joanne McDuffie was a part-time jazz singer 145 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:16,635 and part-time record store clerk when she met Rick James 146 00:07:16,636 --> 00:07:18,437 back in their hometown of Buffalo. 147 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:21,373 Female groups at the time, you know, there weren't a lot of 'em. 148 00:07:21,374 --> 00:07:24,177 The biggest thing that came down the pipe at that point 149 00:07:24,178 --> 00:07:25,377 was The Supremes. 150 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:28,314 Rick's idea was to create a group of women 151 00:07:28,315 --> 00:07:31,116 that were not wearing the same dress, and the same gloves, 152 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:32,651 and the same wig, and the same shoes. 153 00:07:32,652 --> 00:07:35,187 He said he wanted to create a female group. 154 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:37,423 And I guess he put forth that idea to Prince, 155 00:07:37,424 --> 00:07:39,124 and Prince did it first. 156 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:42,861 Prince produced the all-girl group, Vanity 6. 157 00:07:42,862 --> 00:07:44,896 Rick, he was pretty pissed about that. 158 00:07:44,897 --> 00:07:46,932 But anyway, I became lead singer 159 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:50,436 for the group that he produce, the Mary Jane Girls. 160 00:07:50,437 --> 00:07:52,371 Prince also started up another 161 00:07:52,372 --> 00:07:54,673 band around one of his childhood friends, 162 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:57,609 The Time, featuring Morris Day. 163 00:07:57,610 --> 00:07:59,345 Rick answered with his own group, 164 00:07:59,346 --> 00:08:01,413 Process and the Doo Rags. 165 00:08:11,190 --> 00:08:13,892 Whatever Prince was doing, we had to do better. 166 00:08:13,893 --> 00:08:15,562 A lot of people don't realize that 167 00:08:15,563 --> 00:08:17,729 motherfucker had Rick working his ass off. 168 00:08:17,730 --> 00:08:22,433 I remember that tour so well because Rick was in control backstage. 169 00:08:22,434 --> 00:08:26,537 He controlled everything in terms of... there would be no hangers-on 170 00:08:26,538 --> 00:08:28,907 that were not approved by Rick James. 171 00:08:28,908 --> 00:08:31,743 Even with drugs, all of that would have been controlled 172 00:08:31,744 --> 00:08:34,379 and would have been doled out by Rick. 173 00:08:35,647 --> 00:08:38,083 Jackie Rhinehart was hired by Rick, 174 00:08:38,084 --> 00:08:41,252 right before Prince joined the tour, as the merch girl. 175 00:08:41,253 --> 00:08:43,755 She designed and sold t-shirt, 176 00:08:43,756 --> 00:08:46,323 and kept a close eye on the King of Funk. 177 00:08:46,324 --> 00:08:48,893 There's an after party after every concert. 178 00:08:48,894 --> 00:08:53,197 And so, he would take at least a quarter of cocaine 179 00:08:53,198 --> 00:08:54,665 and throw it up in the air, 180 00:08:54,666 --> 00:08:57,301 like how now you see guys pour out beer on the street, 181 00:08:57,302 --> 00:08:59,270 or pour a 40 for my friend. 182 00:08:59,271 --> 00:09:00,605 He would do that! 183 00:09:00,606 --> 00:09:03,274 And just blow it in the air, and he would say, 184 00:09:03,275 --> 00:09:04,909 "To the boom gods." 185 00:09:04,910 --> 00:09:07,478 I used to... and I thought that was very funny. 186 00:09:07,479 --> 00:09:09,680 But what was funnier, was to watch the 187 00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:11,949 reaction of other people in the room. 188 00:09:11,950 --> 00:09:15,184 Some people would get up... and that's when Rick was watching 189 00:09:15,185 --> 00:09:19,355 because why would you take possession of something that's not yours. 190 00:09:19,356 --> 00:09:21,491 That's really what he was looking to see, 191 00:09:21,492 --> 00:09:25,896 who was prone to be an addict, or who actually may even steal, 192 00:09:25,897 --> 00:09:27,931 because Rick's got it like that. 193 00:09:27,932 --> 00:09:29,766 So... yeah. 194 00:09:29,767 --> 00:09:31,574 The thing about Rick was, however you 195 00:09:31,575 --> 00:09:33,537 treat him, you have to treat the band. 196 00:09:33,538 --> 00:09:35,305 If you brought him an eight ball of cocaine, 197 00:09:35,306 --> 00:09:37,507 you better bring two eight balls for the rest of the ban. 198 00:09:37,508 --> 00:09:39,943 And if we're gonna sit here and drink Jack Daniels all night long, 199 00:09:39,944 --> 00:09:41,244 bring some for the band 200 00:09:41,245 --> 00:09:42,646 'cause we're all gonna be in the same room. 201 00:09:42,647 --> 00:09:45,081 He even said that to Don King, to his face. 202 00:09:45,082 --> 00:09:46,916 "If we're gonna party, we're partying together, 203 00:09:46,917 --> 00:09:49,785 ain't gonna be no partying without my band." 204 00:09:49,786 --> 00:09:51,154 We all partied together. 205 00:09:51,155 --> 00:09:52,588 Same thing at Studio 54. 206 00:09:52,589 --> 00:09:54,523 The Super Freak was a VIP 207 00:09:54,524 --> 00:09:57,126 at the most exclusive club in the world 208 00:09:57,127 --> 00:09:58,561 in its final days. 209 00:09:58,562 --> 00:10:00,129 I loved 54. 210 00:10:00,130 --> 00:10:02,065 That motherfucker was jumping. 211 00:10:02,066 --> 00:10:03,632 Lots of drinks, man, 212 00:10:03,633 --> 00:10:05,634 plenty of cocaine, we had whatever the fuck we wanted, man. 213 00:10:05,635 --> 00:10:07,399 We were all able to get into Studio 214 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,372 54 without cards, or without anything 215 00:10:09,373 --> 00:10:12,842 because Rick made sure the people in front knew who we were. 216 00:10:12,843 --> 00:10:15,278 Go all the way up to the third floor, 217 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:19,215 and whatever you could imagine was going on. 218 00:10:19,216 --> 00:10:23,012 Men on men, women and men, uh, everything 219 00:10:23,013 --> 00:10:26,188 was happening on that third floor. 220 00:10:26,189 --> 00:10:28,156 That was where all the fucking and shit be going on. 221 00:10:28,157 --> 00:10:30,493 People fucking together in the eye, ear, and shit. 222 00:10:30,494 --> 00:10:33,195 I mean, them fuckers up there, freaking their asses off. 223 00:10:33,196 --> 00:10:37,766 There was, like, a balcony and with the sloping seats and shit, 224 00:10:37,767 --> 00:10:40,400 and I would go up there and just chill, 225 00:10:40,401 --> 00:10:43,238 just sitting there watching, like goddamn. 226 00:10:43,239 --> 00:10:45,941 How the fuck you do that, you know? 227 00:10:45,942 --> 00:10:48,043 I remember one night in particular, uh, this one 228 00:10:48,044 --> 00:10:50,379 woman had the nerve to come... beautiful, beautiful 229 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:52,981 beautiful woman, and she comes in there, 230 00:10:52,982 --> 00:10:55,683 and she looks at me, said, "I want the black one." 231 00:10:55,684 --> 00:10:57,251 Me. 232 00:10:57,252 --> 00:10:58,853 What?! 233 00:10:58,854 --> 00:11:01,823 What's this, fuckin' slavery time or some shit up in this bitch? 234 00:11:01,824 --> 00:11:04,458 "I want you, I want the black one." 235 00:11:04,459 --> 00:11:06,160 So, she's sitting in my fucking lap 236 00:11:06,161 --> 00:11:08,730 and I'm saying, "This bitch got a lot of motherfucking nerve." 237 00:11:08,731 --> 00:11:11,699 So what I did was... it was wrong of me to do this, 238 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:15,069 but I pulled my shit out, 239 00:11:15,070 --> 00:11:17,939 put some cocaine on the tip of it, 240 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:20,441 and I told her, "Suck that." And she did. 241 00:11:20,442 --> 00:11:22,672 I mean, this woman's one of the biggest 242 00:11:22,673 --> 00:11:24,579 models in the history of modeling 243 00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:26,748 doing this shit, I couldn't believe it, man. 244 00:11:26,749 --> 00:11:29,149 I mean, the bitch's got money coming all out her ass, 245 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:32,419 and she's sitting here with this black son of a bitch from Buffalo, 246 00:11:32,420 --> 00:11:35,121 because I played synthesizer and sang pretty good, 247 00:11:35,122 --> 00:11:37,123 she wants to suck my dick. 248 00:11:37,124 --> 00:11:38,491 Singers do get mostly ass, 249 00:11:38,492 --> 00:11:41,461 but if you can play and sing, you get more ass. 250 00:11:41,462 --> 00:11:44,397 That's, uh, don't tell anybody I said that, please. 251 00:11:44,398 --> 00:11:47,167 While in New York, Rick made a guest appearance 252 00:11:47,168 --> 00:11:48,735 on "Saturday Night Live," 253 00:11:48,736 --> 00:11:51,805 and met another performer he would produce in the studio. 254 00:11:51,806 --> 00:11:53,540 Eddie Murphy. 255 00:11:53,541 --> 00:11:55,976 Eddie Murphy has been in Buffalo for almost a week. 256 00:11:55,977 --> 00:11:58,073 Most of that time has been spent inside 257 00:11:58,074 --> 00:11:59,813 of Rick James' recording studio. 258 00:11:59,814 --> 00:12:02,883 The pair have planned to produce Murphy's first singing single. 259 00:12:02,884 --> 00:12:05,108 The plans were helped when the area was 260 00:12:05,109 --> 00:12:07,454 hit with the worst snowstorm of the year. 261 00:12:07,455 --> 00:12:08,854 He got snowed in. 262 00:12:08,855 --> 00:12:10,656 I think he missed, like, four gigs, 263 00:12:10,657 --> 00:12:11,757 at $50,000 a whap. 264 00:12:11,758 --> 00:12:13,726 Because he was snowed in Buffalo. 265 00:12:13,727 --> 00:12:16,062 We just had fun down in the studio. 266 00:12:16,063 --> 00:12:17,997 Telling jokes, rippin' on each other, man. 267 00:12:17,998 --> 00:12:20,800 He used to do this character with Jheri Curls, 268 00:12:20,801 --> 00:12:24,137 and, uh, Coming to America sh, funniest shit. 269 00:12:24,138 --> 00:12:27,507 Actually, he was imitating Ric, and then... 270 00:12:27,508 --> 00:12:30,310 Rick actually just recorded him doing it. 271 00:12:53,967 --> 00:12:56,335 The song became a hit. 272 00:12:56,336 --> 00:12:58,671 Rick had that touch, man. 273 00:12:58,672 --> 00:13:00,472 I mean, he just has that touch. 274 00:13:00,473 --> 00:13:03,175 Rick's nemesis also had that touch. 275 00:13:03,176 --> 00:13:04,977 Prince has already made a party song 276 00:13:04,978 --> 00:13:07,513 called "1999." 277 00:13:07,514 --> 00:13:10,482 While The Super Freak was living large with Eddie Murphy, 278 00:13:10,483 --> 00:13:15,486 Prince was making a little move to go along with his album, "Purple Rain." 279 00:13:15,487 --> 00:13:17,122 This motherfucker... 280 00:13:17,123 --> 00:13:19,791 I feel for-for Rick, uh, back then. 281 00:13:19,792 --> 00:13:21,259 It got to him, man. 282 00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:24,095 Prince put him, in some degree, 283 00:13:24,096 --> 00:13:26,765 in despair, and I don't think he handed it well. 284 00:13:26,766 --> 00:13:28,667 Author David Ritz mined 285 00:13:28,668 --> 00:13:32,336 The King of Funk for his inner feelings between the binges. 286 00:13:32,337 --> 00:13:34,438 Rick was jealous. 287 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:37,608 And I think Prince represented 288 00:13:37,609 --> 00:13:39,911 to him the kind of danger of getting old. 289 00:13:39,912 --> 00:13:42,480 In 1985, Prince gave his first ever 290 00:13:42,481 --> 00:13:44,716 television interview to MTV, 291 00:13:44,717 --> 00:13:48,018 the channel that was revolutionizing the industry. 292 00:13:48,019 --> 00:13:50,821 MTV refused to play Rick James. 293 00:13:50,822 --> 00:13:55,793 I believe that all the back artists on MTV should pull their videos off MTV. 294 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:58,896 If they were to play Rick James without adding... 295 00:13:58,897 --> 00:14:02,233 all the other videos about all the other black artists on there, 296 00:14:02,234 --> 00:14:04,968 I wouldn't want my videos on MTV 297 00:14:04,969 --> 00:14:06,837 because I'm not gonna be a token for nobody. 298 00:14:06,838 --> 00:14:09,139 And right now, Michael Jackson, 299 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:11,576 Michael's bein' a token on MTV, 300 00:14:11,577 --> 00:14:15,213 And so was Prince, who probably doesn't even care. 301 00:14:15,214 --> 00:14:17,248 But I'm not gonna be anybody's token. 302 00:14:17,249 --> 00:14:20,251 'Cause the first thing I am is black. 303 00:14:20,252 --> 00:14:23,386 The second thing I am is a person. 304 00:14:23,387 --> 00:14:26,924 When I see something as blatant as this... 305 00:14:26,925 --> 00:14:29,093 I mean, I'm supposed to sit by and say cool? 306 00:14:29,094 --> 00:14:31,995 I think that stopped a lot of our progress. 307 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:34,431 It stopped us from being considered 308 00:14:34,432 --> 00:14:36,967 for Grammy's, you know, all that stuff. 309 00:14:36,968 --> 00:14:40,403 Despite taking Prince out on tour, Rick James never quite 310 00:14:40,404 --> 00:14:44,141 broke through like the purple one when it came to white crowds. 311 00:14:44,142 --> 00:14:46,076 We're in the South, one of the Carolinas, 312 00:14:46,077 --> 00:14:49,913 and Rick, and the band and our crew, we all stayed in the same hotel. 313 00:14:49,914 --> 00:14:51,734 We didn't believe in staying in separate 314 00:14:51,735 --> 00:14:53,784 hotels or hanging out separately. So, anyway, 315 00:14:53,785 --> 00:14:56,319 we're down in the bar, we're having fun, we're drinkin'. 316 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,523 One of the patrons in this bar lets off the n-word, 317 00:15:00,524 --> 00:15:02,825 and he says it towards Rick. 318 00:15:02,826 --> 00:15:05,283 Now, whether he was calling Rick the n-word or not 319 00:15:05,284 --> 00:15:07,585 is not the point. The point is word came out 320 00:15:07,586 --> 00:15:10,175 It's about to get physical, and Rick grabs a 321 00:15:10,176 --> 00:15:13,160 bottle, hits it against the table to break it, 322 00:15:13,161 --> 00:15:14,428 and it doesn't break... 323 00:15:14,429 --> 00:15:16,830 There's a little pause, it's like, okay, 324 00:15:16,831 --> 00:15:19,033 my masculine shit just didn't happen. 325 00:15:19,034 --> 00:15:20,701 Now what do we do? 326 00:15:20,702 --> 00:15:22,736 And then suddenly, it turns into a bar fight. 327 00:15:22,737 --> 00:15:24,665 And there are chairs being thrown all 328 00:15:24,666 --> 00:15:26,707 over the place, and it's... it's like, 329 00:15:26,708 --> 00:15:28,542 oh, this is cool, this is a movie. 330 00:15:28,543 --> 00:15:31,812 The, uh, concierge, he says, "Look, I gotta call the magistrate." 331 00:15:31,813 --> 00:15:34,280 The magistrate comes about five minutes later, 332 00:15:34,281 --> 00:15:37,584 the nicest good ol' boy on the planet. 333 00:15:37,585 --> 00:15:39,887 He comes in, he says, "Guys, 334 00:15:39,888 --> 00:15:41,922 "you need to leave. 335 00:15:41,923 --> 00:15:43,456 "You need to check out the hotel, 336 00:15:43,457 --> 00:15:45,759 "you need to get your whole group together 337 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,327 and y'all need to go." 338 00:15:47,328 --> 00:15:49,262 Rick's like, "No, man, no, no. We're not even gonna ever 339 00:15:49,263 --> 00:15:50,764 "be thrown out of a place. 340 00:15:50,765 --> 00:15:52,132 It wasn't our fault." "He said, "I understand that. 341 00:15:52,133 --> 00:15:53,466 "I know the guy who started the fight. 342 00:15:53,467 --> 00:15:55,468 "He's a knucklehead, 343 00:15:55,469 --> 00:15:56,809 and I know he probably just let the n-word 344 00:15:56,810 --> 00:15:58,005 just fly 'cause that's what he does." 345 00:15:58,006 --> 00:16:00,472 He said, "But, come here." 346 00:16:00,473 --> 00:16:01,841 So we went outside. 347 00:16:01,842 --> 00:16:03,910 The hotel was next to a bridge, 348 00:16:03,911 --> 00:16:07,346 and the bridge was really long so on the other side of the bridge, 349 00:16:07,347 --> 00:16:09,348 you could see fire 350 00:16:09,349 --> 00:16:11,417 and crosses, and they were about 351 00:16:11,418 --> 00:16:14,185 to come across the bridge to us. 352 00:16:14,821 --> 00:16:15,988 At that time, 353 00:16:15,989 --> 00:16:18,257 there was a guy named Mario, 354 00:16:18,258 --> 00:16:19,926 kind of martial artist. 355 00:16:19,927 --> 00:16:23,629 He used to carry a suitcase, and on the top of the suitcase, 356 00:16:23,630 --> 00:16:26,933 when you opened it up, it was two samurai swords. 357 00:16:26,934 --> 00:16:29,501 He kept his eye on Rick and the band. 358 00:16:29,502 --> 00:16:31,804 You know, at all times. 359 00:16:31,805 --> 00:16:34,172 Wherever you went, he was there. 360 00:16:34,173 --> 00:16:37,075 The magistrate said, "You got probably two minutes 361 00:16:37,076 --> 00:16:39,644 "to get out of here 'cause I can't stop this. 362 00:16:39,645 --> 00:16:40,745 You need to go." 363 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:43,949 Now, we didn't carry weapons, our security carried weapons. 364 00:16:43,950 --> 00:16:45,684 But, Rick had security turn around, 365 00:16:45,685 --> 00:16:49,120 get back on the bus. We rounded up everybody, 366 00:16:49,121 --> 00:16:50,689 and all you saw was buses 367 00:16:50,690 --> 00:16:53,424 heading north. 368 00:16:53,425 --> 00:16:56,227 All of his life, the King of Punk-Funk 369 00:16:56,228 --> 00:16:59,064 had been far more of a lover than a fighter. 370 00:16:59,065 --> 00:17:00,498 Women loved Rick. 371 00:17:00,499 --> 00:17:03,334 That guy was a... 372 00:17:03,335 --> 00:17:06,370 a magnet for chicks, and he loved women, man... 373 00:17:06,371 --> 00:17:08,371 Rick was, uh... 374 00:17:08,372 --> 00:17:11,141 he was a swordsman. I think that's why he had his own bus. 375 00:17:12,744 --> 00:17:15,579 One night, we're on the tour bus alone, 376 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:16,814 just me and Rick, 377 00:17:16,815 --> 00:17:19,116 and he kisses me. 378 00:17:19,117 --> 00:17:20,618 Oh, it was such a lovely kiss! 379 00:17:20,619 --> 00:17:22,853 And then he says to me, 380 00:17:22,854 --> 00:17:24,221 "Get off the bus! 381 00:17:24,222 --> 00:17:25,555 "Leave right now! 382 00:17:25,556 --> 00:17:26,957 "I don't want everybody to ever think of you 383 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:28,926 as that kind of woman. Just leave." 384 00:17:28,927 --> 00:17:31,428 And he would say this in front of the guys, 385 00:17:31,429 --> 00:17:34,031 you know, "Jackie Rhinehart is a lady." 386 00:17:34,032 --> 00:17:35,633 Over time, it was 387 00:17:35,634 --> 00:17:38,769 his relationship with cocaine that began to change. 388 00:17:38,770 --> 00:17:40,971 Cocaine's a hell of a drug, man. 389 00:17:40,972 --> 00:17:43,039 We swore we'd never let that shit do that. 390 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,008 No drugs, no bitches... 391 00:17:45,009 --> 00:17:48,244 none of that would separate us, and, um... 392 00:17:48,245 --> 00:17:52,849 it-it got to him, man. And, uh... man... 393 00:17:52,850 --> 00:17:55,317 it really got to him. 394 00:17:55,318 --> 00:17:57,253 This one time, we went 395 00:17:57,254 --> 00:17:59,088 to the Cow Palace 396 00:17:59,089 --> 00:18:00,589 to see Sly Stone. 397 00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:02,224 When we went into Sly's dressing room, 398 00:18:02,225 --> 00:18:07,063 Sly was sitting off in the corner and he was freebasing. 399 00:18:07,064 --> 00:18:10,833 And it literally broke our hearts. 400 00:18:10,834 --> 00:18:13,369 Because, for me, that's... 401 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:16,072 the legendary Sly Stone. 402 00:18:16,073 --> 00:18:17,806 I know those records backwards and forwards. 403 00:18:17,807 --> 00:18:21,343 And here was the legend of black music... 404 00:18:21,344 --> 00:18:23,445 and you're sitting off in a corner and you're freebasing, 405 00:18:23,446 --> 00:18:25,648 and you have no idea who the fuck's in the room... 406 00:18:25,649 --> 00:18:28,250 'cause you're so busy with this... 407 00:18:28,251 --> 00:18:30,386 glass dick in your mouth. 408 00:18:30,387 --> 00:18:33,222 So, Rick turns to me, and says, 409 00:18:33,223 --> 00:18:36,824 "We can never, ever, become that." 410 00:18:38,495 --> 00:18:42,498 I remember calling him one time, uh, a "weak motherfucker." 411 00:18:42,499 --> 00:18:44,500 And he just said, "Man, I just can't stop." 412 00:18:44,501 --> 00:18:46,902 I said, "Man, you weak then. You got that bitch got... " 413 00:18:46,903 --> 00:18:48,270 bitch, we called it white bi... 414 00:18:48,271 --> 00:18:50,372 "That white bitch fucking you up, man." 415 00:18:50,373 --> 00:18:51,940 "And I can't stop it." 416 00:18:51,941 --> 00:18:55,410 Then I realized, later on in life, man, he was-he was sick. 417 00:18:55,411 --> 00:18:58,714 He couldn't... he couldn't stop, man. 418 00:18:58,715 --> 00:19:02,050 There have been two occasions where Rick technically OD'd. 419 00:19:02,051 --> 00:19:06,354 And we're like, "Oh, God, he can't die, this cannot happen" 420 00:19:06,355 --> 00:19:09,858 He finally comes back, he's halfway rational. 421 00:19:09,859 --> 00:19:11,990 He agrees, finally, that he's gonna check 422 00:19:11,991 --> 00:19:13,829 into this center and seek some help 423 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,729 so he can get this shit under control. 424 00:19:16,699 --> 00:19:18,299 We get all the cars. 425 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:21,169 We drive his ass from Buffalo to Boston 426 00:19:21,170 --> 00:19:23,338 check him into this rehab center. 427 00:19:23,339 --> 00:19:24,739 Look at the place he's in. 428 00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:26,807 It's all fine, it's wonderful, it's great. 429 00:19:26,808 --> 00:19:29,042 We leave, we drive back to Buffalo. 430 00:19:30,312 --> 00:19:32,046 We didn't do our due diligence. 431 00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:37,918 The bungalow next to Rick was another super duper rockstar... 432 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:39,854 Steve Tyler. 433 00:19:39,855 --> 00:19:41,456 And they got caught with cocaine... 434 00:19:41,457 --> 00:19:43,558 wait a minute, I ain't talking 'bout a little bit of cocaine, 435 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:45,059 I'm talking one ounce of fucking blow. 436 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:47,762 This supposed to be the rehab joint, bro. 437 00:19:47,763 --> 00:19:49,664 God help you. 438 00:19:49,665 --> 00:19:52,533 There was no rehab. He was just partying. 439 00:19:52,534 --> 00:19:56,203 While Prince was playing stadiums across the globe, 440 00:19:56,204 --> 00:19:58,238 Rick James played himself 441 00:19:58,239 --> 00:20:00,774 performing in a parking lot with Isaac Hayes 442 00:20:00,775 --> 00:20:03,543 on an episode of The A-Team. 443 00:20:03,544 --> 00:20:07,481 In 1990, his biggest hit would return to the top of the charts, 444 00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:09,249 but under a new name. 445 00:20:18,092 --> 00:20:19,461 Well, none of us really knew anything 446 00:20:19,462 --> 00:20:21,060 about this sampling shit they were doing. 447 00:20:21,061 --> 00:20:23,696 And Hammer talked to Rick about just 448 00:20:23,697 --> 00:20:26,633 using a little small part of the song. 449 00:20:26,634 --> 00:20:31,337 Man, he took the whole fucking takes the whole line. 450 00:20:36,476 --> 00:20:37,943 Rick was pissed. 451 00:20:37,944 --> 00:20:41,046 "How can this dude take my song and just blaspheme it, 452 00:20:41,047 --> 00:20:42,615 "and do this to it and do that to it? 453 00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:44,317 "And I think the song sucks 454 00:20:44,318 --> 00:20:45,851 and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah," 455 00:20:45,852 --> 00:20:47,553 until that first check came in. 456 00:20:47,554 --> 00:20:50,790 When that first royalty check hit Rick's pocket, 457 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:53,492 it was a completely different ballgame, 458 00:20:53,493 --> 00:20:56,195 because money talks. 459 00:20:56,196 --> 00:20:58,798 Rick deserves that, you know? The guy, uh... 460 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:00,633 he never got a Grammy, you know? 461 00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:02,024 He didn't get his... The only Grammy 462 00:21:02,025 --> 00:21:03,502 he got was from "Can't Touch This." 463 00:21:03,503 --> 00:21:05,470 And I said, "Well, 464 00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:06,960 if Hammer's gonna get a Grammy, they 465 00:21:06,961 --> 00:21:08,707 should give one to Rick." And they did. 466 00:21:08,708 --> 00:21:10,575 Because, I said, "90% of that is that 467 00:21:10,576 --> 00:21:14,045 do-do-do-doo, it has a little infectious groove, you know." 468 00:21:14,046 --> 00:21:16,113 That was "Super Freak." 469 00:21:16,114 --> 00:21:18,783 His return to glory was short-lived. 470 00:21:18,784 --> 00:21:21,619 As "Can't Touch This" hit #1 in the charts, 471 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:25,323 Rick began dating 20 year-old Tanya Hijazi. 472 00:21:25,324 --> 00:21:26,524 That seemed to be a... 473 00:21:26,525 --> 00:21:29,026 beautiful relationship, you know? 474 00:21:29,027 --> 00:21:31,863 It got crazy, because it was... 475 00:21:31,864 --> 00:21:34,298 him and Tanya, and the pipe. 476 00:21:34,299 --> 00:21:37,068 But, uh... it was beautiful. 477 00:21:37,069 --> 00:21:39,337 It got ugly pretty quick. 478 00:21:39,338 --> 00:21:41,339 In the summer of '91, they were arrested 479 00:21:41,340 --> 00:21:43,841 in Los Angles on charges they imprisoned and tortured 480 00:21:43,842 --> 00:21:48,746 another woman for several days with the aforementioned hot crack pipe 481 00:21:48,747 --> 00:21:52,416 while forcing their alleged victim to perform sexual acts. 482 00:21:52,417 --> 00:21:57,788 Let me just be thoughtful about describing this... uh... 483 00:21:57,789 --> 00:22:01,825 because he was tortured... he expressed... 484 00:22:01,826 --> 00:22:06,430 his torture, and so you're back to the Marquis De Sade. 485 00:22:06,431 --> 00:22:09,867 I mean, you've taken pleasure as far as you can go, 486 00:22:09,868 --> 00:22:13,204 and now, what you have to play with is pain. 487 00:22:13,205 --> 00:22:16,072 While out on bail, Rick and Tanya were arrested again 488 00:22:16,073 --> 00:22:19,009 on charges of assaulting a music industry executive 489 00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:22,846 for 20 hours straight in a West Hollywood hotel room. 490 00:22:22,847 --> 00:22:26,082 I-I don't... you need someone with 491 00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:30,353 a deeper sense of poetic metaphors 492 00:22:30,354 --> 00:22:33,356 than me to do this right, but I'll try, man... 493 00:22:33,357 --> 00:22:37,728 I think the pipe... made him crazy. 494 00:22:37,729 --> 00:22:40,764 Rick spent two years in Folsom State Prison 495 00:22:40,765 --> 00:22:42,699 for assault and false imprisonment. 496 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,701 He was cleared of all torture charges, 497 00:22:44,702 --> 00:22:46,770 which would have put him away for life. 498 00:22:46,771 --> 00:22:49,873 I get this call from prison, and it's Rick on the phone. 499 00:22:49,874 --> 00:22:51,841 I have to accept the call, so I accept it. 500 00:22:51,842 --> 00:22:53,776 And he said, "Dude, I just need to talk to you." 501 00:22:53,777 --> 00:22:55,978 I'm like, "I'm always here for you." 502 00:22:55,979 --> 00:22:57,847 "But you haven't come to see me." 503 00:22:57,848 --> 00:23:01,216 I said, "There's no way I'm coming to see you behind bars. 504 00:23:01,217 --> 00:23:04,253 I can't see my king behind bars. I can't see that." 505 00:23:04,254 --> 00:23:07,256 I can't see the person that I admire the most 506 00:23:07,257 --> 00:23:09,859 in prison because of something stupid. 507 00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:12,829 That doesn't sit right with me as a man. 508 00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:18,133 It was like a kind of a, uh, monastery for him. 509 00:23:18,134 --> 00:23:23,138 And so, you get Rick the monk 510 00:23:23,139 --> 00:23:27,542 reflecting on what he'd been doing for the last, uh, 15 years. 511 00:23:27,543 --> 00:23:29,445 But Rick the monk 512 00:23:29,446 --> 00:23:35,684 leaves the monastery, and returns to the world. 513 00:23:35,685 --> 00:23:39,355 And the world is too much for him. 514 00:23:39,356 --> 00:23:42,924 He gets out of prison, uh, we-we have a big meeting, uh, 515 00:23:42,925 --> 00:23:46,128 at this restaurant on Sunset. 516 00:23:46,129 --> 00:23:48,897 And we actually put the band back together, and it was good 517 00:23:48,898 --> 00:23:50,799 until he started freebasing again. 518 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,968 But that's pretty much what happened. 519 00:23:52,969 --> 00:23:54,870 I didn't want to talk to his ass, personally. 520 00:23:54,871 --> 00:23:57,606 You know, we finally get a chance to talk, say, "Rick, how you doing? 521 00:23:57,607 --> 00:24:01,109 "Man, I'm good, man" 522 00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:02,843 "Man, you all right? Man, you sound sick, man." 523 00:24:02,844 --> 00:24:05,245 "No, man, holy shit, I'm just a little tired" 524 00:24:07,016 --> 00:24:08,916 "Okay, man, like, we're ready to do this shit, man. 525 00:24:08,917 --> 00:24:10,151 "You gonna get well, man? 526 00:24:10,152 --> 00:24:11,819 That voice, come on, bro." He laughed. 527 00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:14,588 "Ah, ah I'll be ready, man, I'll be ready." 528 00:24:14,589 --> 00:24:16,991 "Fuck man," I'm saying to myself. 529 00:24:16,992 --> 00:24:19,266 We finally get off the phone, and... I hope this 530 00:24:19,267 --> 00:24:21,362 don't hurt nobody's feelings out there but, 531 00:24:21,363 --> 00:24:23,731 the guys said, "Levi, did you hear that." 532 00:24:23,732 --> 00:24:26,966 And I said, "Yeah, man, Rick's sick." 533 00:24:27,936 --> 00:24:31,339 And, jokingly, we said we hope he... 534 00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:33,741 he don't die before we get through out doing this tour, 535 00:24:33,742 --> 00:24:35,308 because he called us in August. 536 00:24:35,309 --> 00:24:38,579 We're supposed to have rehearsals the first week in September. 537 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:40,780 And he was gone. 538 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:43,283 He was fuckin' gone. 539 00:24:43,284 --> 00:24:46,453 James Ambrose Johnson Jr. was found dead 540 00:24:46,454 --> 00:24:49,423 in his furnished apartment a few miles from Hollywood. 541 00:24:49,424 --> 00:24:52,526 He dies of cardiac arrest at age 56, 542 00:24:52,527 --> 00:24:54,510 with nine substances, including 543 00:24:54,511 --> 00:24:57,330 methamphetamine and cocaine in his system. 544 00:24:57,331 --> 00:25:02,770 Just as his funk was gonna be funkier than anybody else's funk, 545 00:25:02,771 --> 00:25:05,973 so would his demise be that way. 546 00:25:05,974 --> 00:25:08,341 A dozen years later, Prince Rogers Nelson 547 00:25:08,342 --> 00:25:10,177 would be found in a similar state 548 00:25:10,178 --> 00:25:14,981 in his Paisley Park mansion at the age of 57. 549 00:25:14,982 --> 00:25:18,285 Prince lived to be one year older than Rick. 550 00:25:18,286 --> 00:25:22,118 Goddamn... that little motherfucker. 551 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,719 Sync and corrections by awaqeded www.addic7ed.com. 46178

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