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welcome to the Slave Society
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hi everyone
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welcome back to Caliber TV
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I'm Yasmin here with love from while she sleeps Laz
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you're here talking about your new album
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Sleep Society
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lot of visuals
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like music videos
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I know for nervous
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you did like
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a little interview series on your Instagram on reels
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we talked about the song and the meaning behind it
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I wondered going into this
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did you think it was gonna be an audio visual project
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or is that kind of something that happened after
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I guess that
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that's kind of the modern world now
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you know it like
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you back in the day
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you just release a single
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you know it didn't necessarily have to
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have a video attached to it
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but it's everything like
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is so online now
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and that's just the way things are so yeah
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it's always important for us to have a strong
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roll out plan in regards to
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sort of videos and singles
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and what we're gonna do surrounding that record
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I think for the latest release
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nervous in particular
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it was very important for us to approach this
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sort of sensitively
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but also we wanted it to be a very powerful
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strong message
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so there's always to be a lot of focus around this song
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in particular
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yeah it was important
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for us to have a strong campaign behind it
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and like I said we we just
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the message is so important we
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we hold it close to our hearts
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kind of thing
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in terms of what we've all been through in the past and
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and sort of bringing that to the forefront of this song
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um so yeah crazyly important for us to
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to have a campaign surrounding it that
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that was yeah
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visually uh
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important you know
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and um yeah
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that went alongside the message
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I guess hmm
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you're right
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insensive like
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you have to think about everything now
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when you release a song
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you gotta think about
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how you gonna make a trend on TikTok
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you gonna do a dance
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if 14 year old somewhere in the world gonna like it
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just do a floss on TikTok
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to promote the new ha ha
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flossing to the new song yeah um
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speaking of the new record though
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you release it in April
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uh Sleep Society
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uh as well as your fan oriented platform
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that's gonna offer like
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a tear system
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it's already out
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it offers a tear system
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where people can like
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pay certain prices and get exclusive content
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like unreleased demos or tutorials and stuff
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we're just being able to engage with you guys
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um I imagine like
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before you launch this
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not being able to engage with your fans
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must have sucked like
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cause usually
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you go on tour
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you see them singing along
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you get to see that everyday
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going from something so extreme
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to nothing at all
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was probably really shit
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so I imagine this is an exciting new adventure for you
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yeah well I mean like
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in terms of um
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our schedules and stuff like that
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you say not been able to like
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interact with fans like we
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we cut an American tour short um
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by about five or six shows
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and that was California Vegas
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so that sucked
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cause it was gonna be probably the best time um
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and the weather was gonna be a bit better
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but like like I said earlier
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it must really suck for anyone
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that's tried to release a record in this time
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and not been able to tour it
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and up to this point
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we've been very lucky
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in the way that um
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our our schedules kind of fallen in the right place we
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but off the back end of the tour
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we kinda cancelled a couple of days
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and we were scheduled to be home
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and write in
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and in the studio anyway
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so other than sort of
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festival cities and
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which is always got in we
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we did have this downtime to write
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write the record so yeah
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we've released a
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basically a Patreon
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but you know
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a lot of people use Patreon as more of a side hustle
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whereas we've
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brought that to the forefront of our campaign and
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and like you say
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it's just about
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you know the music industry
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so like up and down at the moment
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and it like
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the way that we digest our music
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as music lovers
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is completely changed
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to how it was
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10 to 15 years ago
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and we personally
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feel like the industry hasn't really changed enough to
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to help sustain that
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so yeah it's alright
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if you're Justin Bieber
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you know and you've got millions of pounds
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that's that
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that are millions of listeners
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that's fine
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but like the
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the reality is that
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it's the more underground
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punk rock metal
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you know pop punk
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whatever you wanna call it
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hardcore bands
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they're the bands that are gonna suffer
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because the demand is there
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but they're the sort of
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sort of life blood
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of this whole scene
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and that's where
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you see it not
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you see the scales
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a bit unbalanced
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in the way that you know
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the percentage
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just go to different bands
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stuff like that
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so this whole campaign was about
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just outlining
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some of those issues
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we feel that
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happening in the music industry
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and taking it to our fan base
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and being like look
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the demands there
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for us to be this band
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but it doesn't always weigh up
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so we just tried to explain
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to anyone listening
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basically that um we
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we needed to try
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some different things
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and we need to try and fix
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an industry
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an industry that
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we feel like
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at times is failing
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the artists
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so luckily our fan base responded amazingly to that
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and we just
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basically put out
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the Patreon is is the
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like I say that
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the forefront of the campaign
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that one of the main things
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about this whole campaign
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for us is is
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is something that
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really sort of
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made me fall in love with the music scene
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when I was younger
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and that's that sense of community
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um you know
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when I was a kid
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with a Slipknot hoodie on
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getting punched on the back of the school bus
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for listening to weird shit
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you know what I mean
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and like but
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they always
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there was always a sense of community
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that went alongside
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the metal rock community
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yeah vaccine
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which we loved
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and this kind of
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just brings that back
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a little bit
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to that like
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the people within
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the Sleep Society
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are directly
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helping us sustain
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this career
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but they also get this
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like awesome
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community to be a part of
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where there's so many different like
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things going on
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and tutorials and like
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just loads of extra like
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information and
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and sort of benefits
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if you like
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so it's nice to have that
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core fanbase there
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like helping
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us to sustain it
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more you know
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if if if we
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if we're a band
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that matters to these people
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then they can direct
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they're like
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almost like
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directly sustaining
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like the band
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which is a crazy thing
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and like I said
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it's a great sense of community
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and you know
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we're learning so much from
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the people that
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are involved in that
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and I think that
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like everyone
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that we speak to is inside
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the suicide
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is just absolutely loving it
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saying this
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like always
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things happening and
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and you know
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it's interesting
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to be there
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so it's working great so far hmm
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it's kinda like
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hanging out with your mates
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but your mates are really
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really famous band
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but they just
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get to play
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you cool songs
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and then like oh
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do you wanna listen to this thing
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we almost did
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10 years ago
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here you go
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yeah it's it's just a
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bit more Facetime
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you know like
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sometimes on a
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Friday you know
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we'll just jump online with like
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you know the
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the sort of
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Defiance members
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like we've got different
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tears within society
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and we'll just jump on
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and have a beer
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and have a chat about stuff
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and in a way of
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like I could
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explain before
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the new single
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nervous like
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we've opened doors
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to just jump online
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and have chats with people
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and we're not
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trying to be
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like we're not
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trying to be
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a councillors in any way
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but it's just
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nice to sort of
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break down that barrier
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I think for
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while she sleeps
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we've always been
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that band that
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we wanna like
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get rid of the smoke
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and mirrors
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and you know
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like you know
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there's rock and roll
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and you know
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there's mystery
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and all that
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but really we're just
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a bunch of dudes
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that wanna play music
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to people that
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are listening
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and the people
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that want us to
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continue so
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yeah for us
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it's about dropping
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the smoke and mirrors
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letting people in a bit
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more and um
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yeah I mean
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just kind of
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being the dudes next door
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that play in
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the band you know
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yeah just yeah
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you've local
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blokes in a band
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it were also
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a bit famous
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but they're just
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blokes in a band
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you raised a
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really good point there
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and it's more to do with
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the album content
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I'll jump back
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into the sleep
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starting a second
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with the album
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content like
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I feel like
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you guys have
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always been
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really outspoken
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and this album
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in particular
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is I'm sure
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motivated by
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the chaos going on in
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the world um
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it's no surprise to watch
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sleeps fans
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that you're
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politically motivated
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and outspoken
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all the time
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but the world's
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fucking depressing
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it's depressing right now
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and I'm sure
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I'm sick of doom
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scrolling and seeing
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everyday oh
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it's another
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shit thing to
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cry about I
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I can't tell
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for you if it's a
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kartic thing
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where you write about it
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cause you can close
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the chapter
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and be like okay
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I've got that
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on my system
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or if you then
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dwell on it
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and get a bit
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existential
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and even realise
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just how shit it is
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even more like
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how do you navigate
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through that
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I think the
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I think the reality
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is that like
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everybody knows
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everyone knows
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at times that
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the world is fucked
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and there's
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always things to
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hate upon all
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there always
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things to dislike
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but there's
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also a lot to
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to sort of enjoy
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and be thankful
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for I guess
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I think for us
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when you're
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when you're angry
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young teenagers
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you know you
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wanna be pissed
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off at stuff
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and that's that's
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kind of how
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like the punk
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hardcore thing
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happened for us
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you know we
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just felt like
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people listening
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to our band
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we wanna say
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something that feels
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important to us
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or feel important
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that we say it
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you know what
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we when when
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while she sleep
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when I join
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while she sleeps
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in 2,009 then
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there was a lot of
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death metal
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going around
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and it just felt
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like you know
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it felt overdone and it
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we felt like
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we wanted to
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talk about stuff
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that we'd actually
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experienced
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stuff that was a
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bit more close to
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close to the heart
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you know I mean
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something that we
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can actually stand by
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and I think
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that's where it's
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developed from
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um and yeah
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you know like
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I think being in
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a metal band
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from the UK
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I feel like
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naturally like
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willing to stop
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talking about
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politics at times
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and then like
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yeah feels like
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the state of
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the world but
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I think the
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ultimate goal for
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for while she sleeps
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is the unity
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side of things
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so it's almost like
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no matter what
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shit you're in
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like you're
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going through
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or no matter how
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shit things
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feel that we're
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all united in
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the same thing
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together so
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let's almost
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celebrate the fact
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that we are
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in it together
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if you know
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what I mean
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so that's kind of we
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we wanna play like
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rock and metal
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and we wanna play
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heavy songs
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but we also
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wanna give out
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like a positive
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message um and
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and hope the people
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can take from
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that that like
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yeah everyone
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everyone suffering
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in some way
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shape or form
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or going through
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this shit if
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you like or
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like you know
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I think for me
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personally it's very
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Yorkshire to look um
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to look kinda
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down on stuff
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you know it's
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kinda kinda
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where we're from
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and stuff like
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uh uh and so
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it has that
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a lot of you know
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I like a lot
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of TV shows
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like league
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of gentlemen
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and stuff and
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it's just yes
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yes about the
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the really like
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I don't know
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how to describe it
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just like the
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morbid sort of um
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humour that
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comes out of
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those things
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so yeah I think
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I think it's a
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bit of everything
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for us I think
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that we all
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at times are just
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like fuck this
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everything's
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crap but like
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for us it's about
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recognising
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that we are
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all in the shit
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but like we're
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all in it together
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so let's kinda
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celebrate that
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and uh yeah
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hopefully it
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um hopefully
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gives people some
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positivity that
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that they're not
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like alone and
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at all yeah
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delving back
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into this album
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content um I
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I love the album
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I really love
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enlightenment
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and uh song
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you did with
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Derek from some
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41 yeah yeah
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no defeat for
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the brave oh
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my fucking God
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but um I wonder
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did you record this
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in lockdown
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or did you record
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this before
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lockdown uh
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we've recorded
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this record
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in lockdown
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we did a lot of
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like the sort
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of you know
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it's writing
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and recording
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sort of ideas
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is always an
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ongoing project
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project for us all
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and so a lot
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of the times
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you know I'll
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be digging through
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lyrics and and
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I might have
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written something
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two years ago
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and and I'm
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bringing it to
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the table now
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00:11:08,966 --> 00:11:10,099
and what really
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strange things
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00:11:10,666 --> 00:11:11,466
while she sleeps
613
00:11:11,466 --> 00:11:12,199
songs is always
614
00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:12,700
seems to be
615
00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:13,700
like the the
616
00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:14,200
message that
617
00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:14,900
we giving out
618
00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:15,966
in certain songs
619
00:11:15,966 --> 00:11:16,599
always seems
620
00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,000
to come true
621
00:11:18,366 --> 00:11:19,266
like after the
622
00:11:19,266 --> 00:11:20,333
album's released
623
00:11:20,333 --> 00:11:20,899
before there
624
00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:21,466
was like feel
625
00:11:21,466 --> 00:11:22,933
like feeling of
626
00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:24,733
like you know
627
00:11:24,733 --> 00:11:25,733
being divided
628
00:11:25,733 --> 00:11:26,166
and stuff like
629
00:11:26,166 --> 00:11:26,599
that and then
630
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,200
like Brexit
631
00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:27,966
came into play
632
00:11:27,966 --> 00:11:28,366
and it just
633
00:11:28,366 --> 00:11:29,133
it felt like
634
00:11:29,133 --> 00:11:29,899
it sort of really
635
00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:30,900
clicked into place
636
00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:31,866
but I feel like
637
00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,166
for all the
638
00:11:33,166 --> 00:11:33,766
rising while
639
00:11:33,766 --> 00:11:34,899
she sleeps like
640
00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:35,500
well all the
641
00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:36,000
all the band
642
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,966
really like
643
00:11:37,366 --> 00:11:39,199
it's um it's
644
00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:39,733
important to
645
00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:40,466
leave it kind of
646
00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:41,266
open ended in a
647
00:11:41,266 --> 00:11:42,199
poetic licence
648
00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,700
kind of way
649
00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:43,833
so that anyone
650
00:11:43,933 --> 00:11:45,099
can sort of
651
00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:46,166
make sense of
652
00:11:46,166 --> 00:11:47,166
the lyrics for them
653
00:11:47,166 --> 00:11:48,599
you know like
654
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,766
I think Dave Grohl
655
00:11:49,766 --> 00:11:50,333
said something
656
00:11:50,333 --> 00:11:51,933
like um it's
657
00:11:51,933 --> 00:11:53,499
crazy that um
658
00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:54,100
he can sing
659
00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:54,566
the lyrics to
660
00:11:54,566 --> 00:11:55,299
a songs that
661
00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:55,933
he's written
662
00:11:55,933 --> 00:11:57,366
to 80,000 people
663
00:11:57,366 --> 00:11:58,866
but 80,000 people
664
00:11:58,866 --> 00:11:59,399
can sing them
665
00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,433
back to him
666
00:12:00,733 --> 00:12:02,799
for 80,000 completely
667
00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,766
different reasons
668
00:12:03,766 --> 00:12:04,166
and I think
669
00:12:04,166 --> 00:12:05,066
that is what's
670
00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:06,266
so beautiful about
671
00:12:06,266 --> 00:12:06,933
like lyrics
672
00:12:06,933 --> 00:12:07,766
and and like
673
00:12:07,766 --> 00:12:08,699
we try and leave it
674
00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:09,466
quite poetic
675
00:12:09,466 --> 00:12:09,799
but I think
676
00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,300
as well what's
677
00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:11,133
interesting
678
00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:11,699
in terms of
679
00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:12,366
why she sleeps in
680
00:12:12,366 --> 00:12:12,933
lyrics that
681
00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,266
like at some
682
00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:14,999
point they do
683
00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,666
connect and
684
00:12:15,666 --> 00:12:17,166
relate so like
685
00:12:17,166 --> 00:12:17,566
you might be
686
00:12:17,566 --> 00:12:18,099
writing about
687
00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:19,133
like a certain
688
00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:19,899
relationship
689
00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:20,800
or politics
690
00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,166
but it's weird to
691
00:12:22,166 --> 00:12:22,933
see how they
692
00:12:22,933 --> 00:12:24,166
they could make sense
693
00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:25,199
to both you know
694
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,700
like you could
695
00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:26,266
write about a
696
00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:27,266
breakup but that
697
00:12:27,266 --> 00:12:27,766
not breakup
698
00:12:27,766 --> 00:12:28,499
could relate to
699
00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:29,166
Brexit in a
700
00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:29,699
way you know
701
00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:30,566
like it's kinda
702
00:12:30,566 --> 00:12:31,933
crazy so yeah
703
00:12:31,933 --> 00:12:32,399
try and keep
704
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,966
a lot of uh
705
00:12:32,966 --> 00:12:33,866
poetic licence
706
00:12:33,866 --> 00:12:34,399
in there and
707
00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,400
hopefully you
708
00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:35,933
know that means
709
00:12:35,933 --> 00:12:36,899
that people can
710
00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,700
can sort of
711
00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:38,166
make their own
712
00:12:38,166 --> 00:12:38,799
meaning up for
713
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,333
a little bit
714
00:12:39,333 --> 00:12:39,966
and I guess
715
00:12:39,966 --> 00:12:40,466
that happens
716
00:12:40,466 --> 00:12:41,133
in general with
717
00:12:41,133 --> 00:12:41,899
music anyway
718
00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:43,366
but um but yeah
719
00:12:43,366 --> 00:12:44,299
the poet licence
720
00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:45,266
is what we trying
721
00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:47,600
keep um at the
722
00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,066
forefront of
723
00:12:48,066 --> 00:12:48,666
our lyric writing
724
00:12:48,666 --> 00:12:49,366
so that people
725
00:12:49,366 --> 00:12:50,199
can can make
726
00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:50,866
the connection
727
00:12:50,866 --> 00:12:51,966
jumping back into
728
00:12:51,966 --> 00:12:52,999
like you know
729
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,066
Sleep Society
730
00:12:54,066 --> 00:12:55,166
and your fans
731
00:12:55,166 --> 00:12:55,999
um you did a
732
00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,800
press video
733
00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,533
where you talked about
734
00:12:57,533 --> 00:12:57,899
your reason
735
00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:59,066
behind launching
736
00:12:59,266 --> 00:13:00,766
the fan orientated
737
00:13:00,966 --> 00:13:02,166
community we said
738
00:13:02,166 --> 00:13:02,366
you want to
739
00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:03,199
rebuild the system
740
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,866
where artists
741
00:13:03,866 --> 00:13:04,366
can survive
742
00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:04,899
and fans can
743
00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:05,166
get what they
744
00:13:05,166 --> 00:13:05,999
deserve when
745
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,933
you look like
746
00:13:06,933 --> 00:13:07,933
if we're talking
747
00:13:07,933 --> 00:13:08,999
day one into
748
00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,933
the pandemic
749
00:13:09,933 --> 00:13:10,399
everything's
750
00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,266
going into lockdown
751
00:13:11,266 --> 00:13:11,999
like fuck all
752
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,400
these tours
753
00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,233
are cancelled
754
00:13:13,666 --> 00:13:14,366
when you think
755
00:13:14,366 --> 00:13:15,199
how the music
756
00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,400
industry reacted
757
00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,300
and the structure
758
00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:17,933
of the music
759
00:13:17,933 --> 00:13:19,333
industry this
760
00:13:19,333 --> 00:13:19,866
is probably
761
00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:20,799
an obvious question
762
00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,566
but I just wanna
763
00:13:21,566 --> 00:13:21,966
really get your
764
00:13:21,966 --> 00:13:22,733
perspective
765
00:13:22,733 --> 00:13:23,366
do you think
766
00:13:23,366 --> 00:13:24,099
the infrastructure of
767
00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:25,233
the music industry
768
00:13:25,533 --> 00:13:26,666
was able to
769
00:13:26,666 --> 00:13:27,366
support artists
770
00:13:27,366 --> 00:13:28,133
at the time
771
00:13:28,133 --> 00:13:28,933
and if not what
772
00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:29,699
needs to change
773
00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:30,300
because you know
774
00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:30,600
when it came
775
00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,100
to streaming
776
00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:32,366
services and
777
00:13:32,366 --> 00:13:33,133
like online
778
00:13:33,133 --> 00:13:33,599
platforms it
779
00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,266
took a while
780
00:13:34,266 --> 00:13:34,699
for bands to
781
00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:35,366
actually start
782
00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:36,599
doing like live
783
00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,533
stream shows
784
00:13:37,533 --> 00:13:37,999
what do you think
785
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,966
needs to change
786
00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:39,966
I think that
787
00:13:39,966 --> 00:13:40,966
it's just you know
788
00:13:40,966 --> 00:13:41,666
like like I
789
00:13:41,666 --> 00:13:42,199
said earlier
790
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,166
the demand for
791
00:13:43,166 --> 00:13:44,099
like punk rock
792
00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:44,733
and metal bands
793
00:13:44,733 --> 00:13:45,399
is huge and
794
00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,166
it always has been
795
00:13:46,166 --> 00:13:47,166
but like when
796
00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,700
like for example
797
00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:50,133
um it I think
798
00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:51,099
it takes something like
799
00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:52,900
7,000 streams
800
00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:53,833
of an album
801
00:13:53,866 --> 00:13:54,866
to generate
802
00:13:55,133 --> 00:13:55,666
I think it's
803
00:13:55,666 --> 00:13:57,299
25 quid is what
804
00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:57,933
what we say
805
00:13:57,933 --> 00:13:58,799
in that in that
806
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,533
um what's it
807
00:14:00,533 --> 00:14:01,899
called in the
808
00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:02,833
press video
809
00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:03,666
in again in
810
00:14:03,666 --> 00:14:04,199
the conference
811
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:04,600
that happens
812
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,500
before the song
813
00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:05,966
and like when
814
00:14:05,966 --> 00:14:06,366
you put that
815
00:14:06,366 --> 00:14:07,199
into perspective
816
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,200
like how many plays
817
00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,666
you gonna have to
818
00:14:08,666 --> 00:14:09,666
get to start
819
00:14:09,666 --> 00:14:10,066
making that
820
00:14:10,066 --> 00:14:11,033
sustainable
821
00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:11,400
where was you
822
00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:11,966
think around
823
00:14:11,966 --> 00:14:12,499
back in the
824
00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:13,100
day when like
825
00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:13,700
like we talked
826
00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:14,366
about hybrid
827
00:14:14,366 --> 00:14:14,766
theory when
828
00:14:14,766 --> 00:14:15,699
that came out
829
00:14:15,966 --> 00:14:16,499
you went out
830
00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:17,200
when you bought
831
00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,000
you bought the
832
00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,966
the record and
833
00:14:18,966 --> 00:14:19,466
that was it
834
00:14:19,466 --> 00:14:19,999
like that was
835
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,866
your 10 of pay
836
00:14:20,866 --> 00:14:22,733
but like that
837
00:14:22,733 --> 00:14:23,299
you don't have to
838
00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:23,933
do that now
839
00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:24,399
you can pay
840
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,000
a 10 an hour
841
00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,466
you've got a month
842
00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:26,899
and you've got
843
00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:27,700
all the music
844
00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:28,333
you you pretty
845
00:14:28,333 --> 00:14:29,799
much need so
846
00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,466
it is it is
847
00:14:30,466 --> 00:14:31,599
crazy and like
848
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,333
I don't think
849
00:14:32,333 --> 00:14:32,933
anybody's got
850
00:14:32,933 --> 00:14:33,566
a quick fix
851
00:14:33,566 --> 00:14:34,166
for it I just
852
00:14:34,166 --> 00:14:34,733
think that's
853
00:14:34,733 --> 00:14:34,999
the way that
854
00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:35,733
everything's gone
855
00:14:35,733 --> 00:14:36,533
with the internet
856
00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:37,399
and like like
857
00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,266
YouTube and
858
00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:39,666
and just you know
859
00:14:39,666 --> 00:14:41,066
streaming and
860
00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:41,733
like all these
861
00:14:41,733 --> 00:14:42,366
other different
862
00:14:42,366 --> 00:14:43,133
platforms that
863
00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:43,899
are around now
864
00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:44,566
and like bands
865
00:14:44,566 --> 00:14:45,133
having to keep
866
00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:46,099
up with that
867
00:14:46,766 --> 00:14:47,399
you know so it's
868
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,700
it's just yeah
869
00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:49,300
I I want it
870
00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:49,966
like I think
871
00:14:49,966 --> 00:14:50,699
the main thing
872
00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:51,333
for us with
873
00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:52,133
this whole campaign
874
00:14:52,133 --> 00:14:52,866
as well is like
875
00:14:52,866 --> 00:14:53,366
we want it to be
876
00:14:53,366 --> 00:14:53,799
an industry
877
00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,266
that we can
878
00:14:54,266 --> 00:14:54,899
turn around to
879
00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:56,133
our children's children
880
00:14:56,133 --> 00:14:56,699
and be like
881
00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:57,300
yes it's an
882
00:14:57,300 --> 00:14:57,800
industry that
883
00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,600
you wanna be
884
00:14:58,933 --> 00:14:59,666
you wanna be
885
00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:00,133
if you if you
886
00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:00,733
feel passionate
887
00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:01,699
about it then
888
00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:02,333
then follow
889
00:15:02,333 --> 00:15:02,866
that because
890
00:15:02,866 --> 00:15:03,566
it's a good
891
00:15:03,566 --> 00:15:04,333
industry to be in
892
00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:04,799
we don't wanna
893
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,333
turn around
894
00:15:05,333 --> 00:15:06,299
in a few a few more
895
00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:07,000
like another 10
896
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000
15 years time
897
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,866
and be like
898
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,100
stay very well
899
00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:10,900
away from that
900
00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:11,966
like that industry
901
00:15:11,966 --> 00:15:12,533
because it's
902
00:15:12,533 --> 00:15:13,366
it's fucked
903
00:15:13,366 --> 00:15:13,966
and it's corrupt
904
00:15:13,966 --> 00:15:16,033
so I think that
905
00:15:16,933 --> 00:15:17,566
more and more
906
00:15:17,566 --> 00:15:18,399
people now are
907
00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,566
talking about
908
00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,733
the way that it's
909
00:15:20,733 --> 00:15:21,533
sustainable
910
00:15:21,533 --> 00:15:22,133
for artists
911
00:15:22,133 --> 00:15:22,666
and the way that
912
00:15:22,666 --> 00:15:23,099
the streaming
913
00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:24,133
platforms and
914
00:15:24,133 --> 00:15:24,933
and different
915
00:15:24,933 --> 00:15:25,966
different outlets
916
00:15:25,966 --> 00:15:27,366
sort of repay the
917
00:15:27,366 --> 00:15:28,133
artist for the
918
00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:28,566
for the work
919
00:15:28,566 --> 00:15:29,666
done I think
920
00:15:29,666 --> 00:15:30,833
what the what
921
00:15:30,866 --> 00:15:31,566
we've done with
922
00:15:31,566 --> 00:15:32,266
this campaign
923
00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:33,099
is just like
924
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:33,733
I say try and
925
00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:34,999
outline some of those
926
00:15:35,333 --> 00:15:36,066
difficult is
927
00:15:36,066 --> 00:15:36,899
for bands and help
928
00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:37,466
people that are
929
00:15:37,466 --> 00:15:39,399
like into music
930
00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,266
you know like
931
00:15:40,266 --> 00:15:41,599
the general public
932
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,933
I would say they
933
00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:43,799
they kind of
934
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,166
listen to Radio 1
935
00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:45,899
or whatever
936
00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:47,066
and then they just
937
00:15:47,066 --> 00:15:47,799
that's kind of
938
00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,400
it they might
939
00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:48,800
hear a song
940
00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,266
on the radio
941
00:15:49,266 --> 00:15:49,733
they like and
942
00:15:49,733 --> 00:15:50,199
then they go to
943
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:50,866
Spotify and
944
00:15:50,866 --> 00:15:51,366
they play it
945
00:15:51,366 --> 00:15:52,799
but like rock
946
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,700
and metal fans are
947
00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:54,700
like fans of
948
00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:55,566
music they like
949
00:15:55,566 --> 00:15:56,299
purposefully
950
00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:57,400
go and like
951
00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,466
search for new bands
952
00:15:58,466 --> 00:15:59,299
to listen to
953
00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:00,200
and so it's
954
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,800
a different
955
00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:01,466
it's a different
956
00:16:01,466 --> 00:16:01,866
way that we
957
00:16:01,866 --> 00:16:02,799
digest our music
958
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,300
and I think
959
00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:03,900
the way the
960
00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:04,366
way that we just
961
00:16:04,366 --> 00:16:04,966
put it out there
962
00:16:04,966 --> 00:16:05,533
is just like
963
00:16:05,533 --> 00:16:06,066
it's all about
964
00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:06,566
trying to make it
965
00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:07,133
sustainable
966
00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,766
if you got your top 5
967
00:16:08,766 --> 00:16:09,466
favourite bands
968
00:16:09,466 --> 00:16:11,199
like try and
969
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:12,500
give them some focus
970
00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:13,000
you know like
971
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,733
maybe chip them a
972
00:16:13,733 --> 00:16:14,199
bit of coin
973
00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:14,766
every month
974
00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:15,499
extra so that
975
00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:15,966
they've got
976
00:16:15,966 --> 00:16:16,699
that they've
977
00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:17,500
got that in
978
00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:18,100
the bank so
979
00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:18,733
that they can
980
00:16:18,733 --> 00:16:20,366
then focus on
981
00:16:20,366 --> 00:16:21,066
what's important
982
00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:22,033
which is the
983
00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:22,766
the art you know
984
00:16:22,766 --> 00:16:23,399
I mean like
985
00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,300
so many bands
986
00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:25,066
have basically
987
00:16:25,066 --> 00:16:25,733
got to turn into
988
00:16:25,733 --> 00:16:27,366
clothing brands now
989
00:16:27,366 --> 00:16:27,899
to be able to
990
00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:28,533
make the music
991
00:16:28,533 --> 00:16:29,066
side of things
992
00:16:29,066 --> 00:16:29,666
sustainable
993
00:16:29,666 --> 00:16:30,766
so yeah it's just
994
00:16:30,766 --> 00:16:31,533
I don't like
995
00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:32,133
there's no real
996
00:16:32,133 --> 00:16:32,699
answer for it
997
00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:33,100
but I think
998
00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:33,700
like since we
999
00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:34,300
released this
1000
00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:35,400
message I've
1001
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,966
noticed a lot
1002
00:16:35,966 --> 00:16:36,599
more people
1003
00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,666
like I don't
1004
00:16:37,666 --> 00:16:38,899
like CEOs of
1005
00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:39,800
of like huge
1006
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,566
companies and stuff
1007
00:16:40,566 --> 00:16:41,099
coming out with
1008
00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:42,266
like a press
1009
00:16:42,266 --> 00:16:42,666
conferences
1010
00:16:42,666 --> 00:16:43,199
being like yeah
1011
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,766
we need to re
1012
00:16:43,766 --> 00:16:44,366
evaluate what
1013
00:16:44,366 --> 00:16:44,933
we're doing and
1014
00:16:44,933 --> 00:16:45,466
and try and
1015
00:16:45,466 --> 00:16:46,133
find balance
1016
00:16:46,133 --> 00:16:46,699
and stuff like that
1017
00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:47,333
and it's definitely
1018
00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:48,499
not just from
1019
00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:49,266
while she sleeps
1020
00:16:49,266 --> 00:16:49,899
saying it by
1021
00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:50,866
any means but
1022
00:16:50,933 --> 00:16:51,533
it's just good
1023
00:16:51,533 --> 00:16:51,866
that there's
1024
00:16:51,866 --> 00:16:52,499
some attention
1025
00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,000
and some light
1026
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,600
being in shed
1027
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,266
on that and
1028
00:16:54,266 --> 00:16:55,533
like and and
1029
00:16:55,533 --> 00:16:56,099
trying to figure
1030
00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:57,100
it out um and
1031
00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:57,733
hopefully yeah
1032
00:16:57,733 --> 00:16:58,299
hopefully it'll
1033
00:16:58,300 --> 00:16:58,700
turn around
1034
00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:59,266
a little bit
1035
00:16:59,266 --> 00:17:00,266
and um I don't
1036
00:17:00,266 --> 00:17:00,499
think there
1037
00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:01,066
has to be any
1038
00:17:01,066 --> 00:17:02,933
like crazily
1039
00:17:02,933 --> 00:17:03,866
dramatic changes
1040
00:17:03,866 --> 00:17:05,199
just to you
1041
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:05,733
know just to
1042
00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:06,399
find a bit more
1043
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:06,933
balance and
1044
00:17:06,933 --> 00:17:07,899
stability for the
1045
00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:08,466
for the bands
1046
00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:09,399
that sort of
1047
00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:10,666
slightly under
1048
00:17:10,666 --> 00:17:11,333
the radar but
1049
00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:12,166
still pushing
1050
00:17:12,166 --> 00:17:13,299
you know so yeah
1051
00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:13,733
and I think
1052
00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:14,899
as well like
1053
00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:15,933
it's not just
1054
00:17:15,933 --> 00:17:16,533
a model that
1055
00:17:16,533 --> 00:17:17,733
establish bands can use
1056
00:17:17,733 --> 00:17:18,299
I think this is
1057
00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:18,800
a model that
1058
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,166
um that like
1059
00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:20,866
up and coming
1060
00:17:20,866 --> 00:17:21,766
aspiring bands
1061
00:17:21,766 --> 00:17:22,533
can use as well
1062
00:17:22,533 --> 00:17:23,099
even if it was
1063
00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:23,600
just friends
1064
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,333
and family of
1065
00:17:24,333 --> 00:17:25,066
the band you know
1066
00:17:25,066 --> 00:17:25,733
like when you
1067
00:17:25,733 --> 00:17:26,499
when you first
1068
00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:27,333
started out
1069
00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:27,899
they could then
1070
00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:28,733
print some vinyls
1071
00:17:28,733 --> 00:17:29,966
and some CDs
1072
00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:30,333
yeah I mean
1073
00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:30,666
they're not
1074
00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:31,199
having to try
1075
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,066
and work out
1076
00:17:32,066 --> 00:17:32,766
and then that
1077
00:17:32,766 --> 00:17:34,166
could then in
1078
00:17:34,166 --> 00:17:34,899
the long run
1079
00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:35,800
maybe prevent them
1080
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,500
from signing a
1081
00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:37,366
record deal
1082
00:17:37,366 --> 00:17:38,899
that they were gonna
1083
00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:39,766
lose you know
1084
00:17:39,766 --> 00:17:40,199
and it's just
1085
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,400
about that being
1086
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,300
clever about
1087
00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:43,700
how you start
1088
00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:44,100
the initial
1089
00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:44,733
journey cause
1090
00:17:44,733 --> 00:17:45,733
it can you know
1091
00:17:45,733 --> 00:17:46,699
it can be the
1092
00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:47,333
beginning but
1093
00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:47,799
it can also
1094
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,400
quickly be the
1095
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,133
end of a of a
1096
00:17:49,133 --> 00:17:49,866
decent band
1097
00:17:49,866 --> 00:17:50,966
or musician if
1098
00:17:51,466 --> 00:17:52,199
if they don't
1099
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:52,733
do the right
1100
00:17:52,733 --> 00:17:53,666
things early on
1101
00:17:53,666 --> 00:17:54,266
so you work
1102
00:17:54,266 --> 00:17:54,966
with Simon Neil
1103
00:17:54,966 --> 00:17:55,533
on this new
1104
00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:56,366
song and he
1105
00:17:56,366 --> 00:17:56,766
I'm pretty sure
1106
00:17:56,766 --> 00:17:57,499
he just jumped on
1107
00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:58,266
an architect song
1108
00:17:58,266 --> 00:17:59,166
as well it's
1109
00:17:59,166 --> 00:17:59,766
really nice
1110
00:17:59,766 --> 00:18:00,266
it's really
1111
00:18:00,266 --> 00:18:01,133
nice to see
1112
00:18:01,133 --> 00:18:01,699
the metal in
1113
00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:02,700
rock world collab
1114
00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:03,500
like that and
1115
00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:04,200
like yeah from
1116
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,600
all different
1117
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,766
bands jumping on
1118
00:18:05,766 --> 00:18:06,366
everyone songs
1119
00:18:06,366 --> 00:18:06,866
it feels like
1120
00:18:06,866 --> 00:18:07,799
2,010 again
1121
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,200
when everyone
1122
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,266
was just jumping on
1123
00:18:09,266 --> 00:18:09,899
metalcore songs
1124
00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:10,666
that was fun
1125
00:18:10,666 --> 00:18:12,133
um but I wonder
1126
00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:12,966
you know metal
1127
00:18:12,966 --> 00:18:13,666
hasn't always
1128
00:18:13,666 --> 00:18:14,199
been a really
1129
00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,000
embracing pace
1130
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,900
for stuff like that
1131
00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:16,566
I've always been a
1132
00:18:16,566 --> 00:18:17,166
bit resilient
1133
00:18:17,166 --> 00:18:17,766
when it comes to
1134
00:18:17,766 --> 00:18:18,366
rock and metal
1135
00:18:18,366 --> 00:18:18,799
and anybody
1136
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,366
especially from
1137
00:18:19,366 --> 00:18:20,299
pop and rap
1138
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:20,966
coming into metal
1139
00:18:20,966 --> 00:18:22,866
god forbid that uh
1140
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,466
do you think
1141
00:18:23,466 --> 00:18:24,133
it's important
1142
00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:24,799
for metal to
1143
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,566
strive for like
1144
00:18:26,566 --> 00:18:27,699
you know adapting
1145
00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:28,333
and evolving
1146
00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:28,966
especially in
1147
00:18:28,966 --> 00:18:29,966
this climate
1148
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,866
for us like
1149
00:18:30,866 --> 00:18:31,866
it's all about
1150
00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:32,699
being able to step
1151
00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:33,300
outside that
1152
00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:34,133
metalcore box
1153
00:18:34,133 --> 00:18:34,899
you know obviously
1154
00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:35,500
our band was
1155
00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,166
formed through
1156
00:18:36,166 --> 00:18:36,599
the love of
1157
00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,266
metalcore and
1158
00:18:37,266 --> 00:18:37,866
when we met
1159
00:18:37,866 --> 00:18:38,499
when I met the
1160
00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:39,700
guys years back
1161
00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:40,400
before I was even
1162
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,866
in the band
1163
00:18:40,866 --> 00:18:41,466
we hung out
1164
00:18:41,466 --> 00:18:42,266
and we just
1165
00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:42,799
love playing
1166
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,600
metalcore bands
1167
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,466
like Darkest
1168
00:18:44,466 --> 00:18:45,699
Hour on earth
1169
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:46,866
which kills
1170
00:18:46,866 --> 00:18:47,666
which engage
1171
00:18:47,666 --> 00:18:48,866
as a lay dying
1172
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,366
and and this
1173
00:18:50,366 --> 00:18:51,266
and this you know
1174
00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:51,966
Shadows Fall
1175
00:18:51,966 --> 00:18:52,599
there's tons
1176
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,066
but you know
1177
00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:55,166
I think now
1178
00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:55,866
trying to be a
1179
00:18:55,866 --> 00:18:56,333
current band
1180
00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:56,899
in the industry
1181
00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:57,533
that we're in is
1182
00:18:57,533 --> 00:18:58,199
about stepping
1183
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:58,666
outside the
1184
00:18:58,666 --> 00:18:59,133
box and just
1185
00:18:59,133 --> 00:18:59,599
being able to
1186
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,400
create kind
1187
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,200
of freely and
1188
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,800
not being too
1189
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,500
head up on what
1190
00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,200
genre things
1191
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:03,766
are like if
1192
00:19:03,766 --> 00:19:04,833
I hear a band
1193
00:19:05,133 --> 00:19:05,766
I'm not like
1194
00:19:05,766 --> 00:19:06,499
other metalcore
1195
00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:07,300
band I'm just
1196
00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:07,966
like this band
1197
00:19:07,966 --> 00:19:08,533
sounds good
1198
00:19:08,533 --> 00:19:09,266
full stop so
1199
00:19:09,266 --> 00:19:10,133
I think it's just about
1200
00:19:10,133 --> 00:19:11,166
like broadening
1201
00:19:11,166 --> 00:19:11,966
those genres
1202
00:19:11,966 --> 00:19:12,799
and just you know
1203
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,200
being a bit
1204
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:13,800
more free to
1205
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,566
create like
1206
00:19:14,566 --> 00:19:16,666
for us like
1207
00:19:16,666 --> 00:19:17,166
we just wanna
1208
00:19:17,166 --> 00:19:17,599
go into the
1209
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,333
studio with
1210
00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:19,399
like a a clean
1211
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:19,900
slate and be
1212
00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:20,533
like let's just
1213
00:19:20,533 --> 00:19:21,333
create something
1214
00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:21,733
and I think
1215
00:19:21,733 --> 00:19:22,266
that's why in
1216
00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:23,066
in our latest
1217
00:19:23,066 --> 00:19:23,933
record Sleep
1218
00:19:23,933 --> 00:19:24,599
Society you
1219
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,300
do see a lot
1220
00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:27,033
of different
1221
00:19:27,366 --> 00:19:28,766
like different
1222
00:19:28,766 --> 00:19:29,599
sounds and and
1223
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,166
like different
1224
00:19:30,166 --> 00:19:30,933
vibes within
1225
00:19:30,933 --> 00:19:31,766
the record you know
1226
00:19:31,766 --> 00:19:32,099
we've got a
1227
00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:32,566
song that's
1228
00:19:32,566 --> 00:19:33,466
like completely
1229
00:19:33,466 --> 00:19:34,166
clean with just
1230
00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,599
a piano yeah
1231
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,666
um and then
1232
00:19:36,666 --> 00:19:37,533
but then that
1233
00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:38,466
sort of book ended
1234
00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:38,999
it goes into
1235
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,466
like one of
1236
00:19:39,466 --> 00:19:40,099
the heaviest tracks
1237
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:40,766
on the record
1238
00:19:40,766 --> 00:19:41,566
and I think
1239
00:19:41,766 --> 00:19:42,333
it's just all
1240
00:19:42,333 --> 00:19:42,799
about that for
1241
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,200
us we don't
1242
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:43,733
wanna be in a
1243
00:19:43,733 --> 00:19:44,566
a don't wanna be
1244
00:19:44,566 --> 00:19:44,933
a band that
1245
00:19:44,933 --> 00:19:45,533
writes the same
1246
00:19:45,533 --> 00:19:46,599
record twice
1247
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,000
so I think that
1248
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,333
it's for us
1249
00:19:49,333 --> 00:19:50,099
anyway it's
1250
00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:50,866
crucially important
1251
00:19:50,866 --> 00:19:51,299
that we sort
1252
00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:52,500
of clash on
1253
00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:53,266
as a bit and
1254
00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:53,899
and collaborate
1255
00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:54,866
with people
1256
00:19:54,933 --> 00:19:56,333
um working with Simon Neil
1257
00:19:56,333 --> 00:19:57,933
on this song
1258
00:19:57,933 --> 00:19:58,566
in particular
1259
00:19:58,566 --> 00:19:59,199
was amazing
1260
00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,866
I feel feel
1261
00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:01,133
like his um
1262
00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:01,899
his voice on
1263
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:03,166
nervous just
1264
00:20:03,166 --> 00:20:04,299
really suited
1265
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,300
the anthemic
1266
00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:07,100
sound um came to
1267
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:07,533
the he came
1268
00:20:07,533 --> 00:20:08,833
to the like
1269
00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:09,933
he got involved
1270
00:20:09,933 --> 00:20:10,266
and there was
1271
00:20:10,266 --> 00:20:11,166
so many like
1272
00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:12,166
great ideas
1273
00:20:12,166 --> 00:20:12,933
and we basically
1274
00:20:12,933 --> 00:20:14,133
kept everything
1275
00:20:14,133 --> 00:20:14,699
that he did
1276
00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:15,166
on the song
1277
00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:15,766
in the song
1278
00:20:15,766 --> 00:20:16,399
like he came
1279
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,000
and he was like
1280
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,500
throwing ad
1281
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:18,533
libs in between
1282
00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:18,999
the structure
1283
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,700
that we already
1284
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:20,933
had and yeah
1285
00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:21,399
his voice sounded
1286
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,000
so good he was
1287
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,700
such a positive
1288
00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:23,266
guy to work
1289
00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:24,066
with so yeah
1290
00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:24,733
we loved working
1291
00:20:24,733 --> 00:20:25,966
with Simon and
1292
00:20:25,966 --> 00:20:26,766
Derek on no
1293
00:20:26,766 --> 00:20:27,266
defeat from
1294
00:20:27,266 --> 00:20:27,699
the brave as
1295
00:20:27,700 --> 00:20:28,633
well but um
1296
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,400
yeah I think
1297
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:30,966
it's crucially
1298
00:20:30,966 --> 00:20:31,333
important to
1299
00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:31,899
collaborate
1300
00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:32,466
we love the
1301
00:20:32,466 --> 00:20:33,266
collaborations
1302
00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:34,299
on this record
1303
00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:36,066
for us and yeah
1304
00:20:36,066 --> 00:20:36,866
bands like any
1305
00:20:36,866 --> 00:20:37,799
Shikari I think
1306
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,466
very early on
1307
00:20:38,466 --> 00:20:38,966
in the like
1308
00:20:38,966 --> 00:20:40,366
the metal hardcore
1309
00:20:40,366 --> 00:20:41,599
punk pop world
1310
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,000
so smash down
1311
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,100
those Barry is
1312
00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:44,733
and I do think it's
1313
00:20:44,733 --> 00:20:45,299
important that we
1314
00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:45,900
we continue
1315
00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:46,733
to do that and
1316
00:20:46,733 --> 00:20:47,533
you mentioned Derek
1317
00:20:47,533 --> 00:20:48,133
so I thought I'd
1318
00:20:48,133 --> 00:20:49,333
ask uh you're
1319
00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:49,766
doing a collab
1320
00:20:49,766 --> 00:20:50,533
with some 40
1321
00:20:50,533 --> 00:20:51,466
ones Derek on
1322
00:20:51,466 --> 00:20:52,666
this album how
1323
00:20:52,666 --> 00:20:53,766
insane is that
1324
00:20:53,766 --> 00:20:54,299
how did that
1325
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:55,566
even come about
1326
00:20:55,566 --> 00:20:56,066
we basically
1327
00:20:56,066 --> 00:20:56,533
just reached
1328
00:20:56,533 --> 00:20:57,066
out to him all
1329
00:20:57,066 --> 00:20:57,899
being fans of
1330
00:20:57,900 --> 00:20:59,466
um all being
1331
00:20:59,466 --> 00:21:00,533
fans of some 41
1332
00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:01,133
as kids and
1333
00:21:01,133 --> 00:21:01,799
still are fans
1334
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,766
some 41 like
1335
00:21:02,766 --> 00:21:03,399
um I remember
1336
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:03,966
skateboarding
1337
00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:04,333
and that's my
1338
00:21:04,333 --> 00:21:04,933
local music
1339
00:21:04,933 --> 00:21:05,699
shop and just
1340
00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:06,300
picking up all
1341
00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:06,966
killer no filler
1342
00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:07,699
by completely
1343
00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:08,600
by accident
1344
00:21:08,666 --> 00:21:08,966
and then it
1345
00:21:08,966 --> 00:21:09,533
turned into
1346
00:21:09,533 --> 00:21:10,533
such a big record
1347
00:21:10,533 --> 00:21:10,966
for me and my
1348
00:21:10,966 --> 00:21:11,466
brother you
1349
00:21:11,466 --> 00:21:12,866
know yeah so
1350
00:21:13,133 --> 00:21:13,699
and I think
1351
00:21:13,700 --> 00:21:14,333
everybody in
1352
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:14,799
our band has
1353
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,333
had that time
1354
00:21:15,333 --> 00:21:16,166
with some 41
1355
00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:17,133
you know they still play
1356
00:21:17,133 --> 00:21:17,699
now in all the
1357
00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:18,533
local rock clubs
1358
00:21:18,533 --> 00:21:19,099
and stuff well
1359
00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:19,400
when they're
1360
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,400
back open in
1361
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,933
all the local
1362
00:21:20,933 --> 00:21:21,533
rock clubs and
1363
00:21:21,533 --> 00:21:23,266
stuff um so
1364
00:21:23,266 --> 00:21:23,666
yeah there were
1365
00:21:23,666 --> 00:21:24,366
huge influence
1366
00:21:24,366 --> 00:21:25,799
on us all and
1367
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,966
we we kinda
1368
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:28,200
were thinking about
1369
00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:28,800
the collabs
1370
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,466
that he's done
1371
00:21:29,466 --> 00:21:29,866
and I don't
1372
00:21:29,866 --> 00:21:30,499
actually think
1373
00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:31,566
he's done like
1374
00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:32,533
crazy amounts of
1375
00:21:32,533 --> 00:21:33,366
collaborations
1376
00:21:33,366 --> 00:21:34,333
so we just sort of
1377
00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:34,933
reached out to
1378
00:21:34,933 --> 00:21:35,933
him and you
1379
00:21:35,933 --> 00:21:36,499
know and said
1380
00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:37,066
would you be up
1381
00:21:37,066 --> 00:21:38,199
for hearing
1382
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:38,733
the demo that
1383
00:21:38,733 --> 00:21:40,266
we've got um
1384
00:21:40,333 --> 00:21:40,733
we've heard
1385
00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:41,299
that you kinda
1386
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:41,933
know the band
1387
00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:42,599
and you've heard us
1388
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,333
and he like
1389
00:21:43,333 --> 00:21:44,199
confirms that he
1390
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,733
like listen
1391
00:21:44,733 --> 00:21:45,199
to a few of
1392
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,933
us that our
1393
00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:46,699
albums and he
1394
00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:47,300
was into the
1395
00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,333
band and we
1396
00:21:48,333 --> 00:21:48,733
just started
1397
00:21:48,733 --> 00:21:49,266
talking from
1398
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:49,799
there really
1399
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,400
and then sort of
1400
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,100
no defeat for
1401
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,366
the brave the demo
1402
00:21:52,366 --> 00:21:53,266
came about and
1403
00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:53,766
it's really
1404
00:21:53,766 --> 00:21:54,799
strange how
1405
00:21:55,066 --> 00:21:55,766
the verses in
1406
00:21:55,766 --> 00:21:56,366
no defeat for
1407
00:21:56,366 --> 00:21:56,899
the brave were
1408
00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:57,866
written by while
1409
00:21:57,866 --> 00:21:58,399
she sleeps but
1410
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,300
they sound like
1411
00:21:59,300 --> 00:21:59,900
they're written
1412
00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:00,700
by some part
1413
00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:01,300
they sound like
1414
00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:01,566
they're written
1415
00:22:01,566 --> 00:22:03,166
by Derek yeah
1416
00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:03,699
even the way
1417
00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:04,300
that he sung
1418
00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:05,933
the verses on
1419
00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:06,333
the thing and
1420
00:22:06,333 --> 00:22:07,366
they just sound like
1421
00:22:07,366 --> 00:22:08,533
some 41 birth
1422
00:22:08,533 --> 00:22:09,066
so that was
1423
00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:09,766
crazy that it
1424
00:22:09,766 --> 00:22:10,599
all sort of
1425
00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:11,500
came together
1426
00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:12,166
and yeah he
1427
00:22:12,166 --> 00:22:12,799
he was great
1428
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,266
to work with
1429
00:22:13,266 --> 00:22:13,933
as well so that
1430
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,699
was amazing
1431
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:15,166
yeah it was
1432
00:22:15,166 --> 00:22:15,999
a great collab
1433
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,900
and like I said
1434
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:17,400
we're we're
1435
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,866
really stoke
1436
00:22:17,866 --> 00:22:18,699
with this record
1437
00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:19,800
and uh hope
1438
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,400
the people like it
1439
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,333
as much as we do
1440
00:22:21,333 --> 00:22:22,499
and lastly uh
1441
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:22,933
I know it's
1442
00:22:22,933 --> 00:22:23,699
hard to anticipate
1443
00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:24,366
cause we don't
1444
00:22:24,366 --> 00:22:24,899
fucking know
1445
00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:25,366
when tours are
1446
00:22:25,366 --> 00:22:26,166
coming back
1447
00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:27,699
but um when
1448
00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:28,500
tours come back
1449
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:29,000
what are you
1450
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,666
most excited
1451
00:22:29,666 --> 00:22:30,133
for I don't
1452
00:22:30,133 --> 00:22:30,499
know what I'm
1453
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:31,066
gonna do when
1454
00:22:31,066 --> 00:22:31,599
I get into a
1455
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,533
venue covered in
1456
00:22:32,533 --> 00:22:33,133
beer probably
1457
00:22:33,133 --> 00:22:33,599
roll around
1458
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,000
on the floor
1459
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,466
for a bit like
1460
00:22:34,466 --> 00:22:35,299
a fucking dog
1461
00:22:36,733 --> 00:22:38,466
I think I roll about on the stage for a bit
1462
00:22:38,466 --> 00:22:39,366
I usually do anyway
1463
00:22:39,366 --> 00:22:41,566
so that's no different there um
1464
00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:43,566
I think that you know
1465
00:22:43,566 --> 00:22:44,833
I think when you
1466
00:22:44,966 --> 00:22:46,399
not that we take it for granted
1467
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,133
but you kind of
1468
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:47,899
you take it for granted
1469
00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:50,800
that you can travel quite freely with your bandmates
1470
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,133
and just tour wherever
1471
00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:53,933
whenever um
1472
00:22:53,933 --> 00:22:55,199
and I think previous to this
1473
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,133
I had a couple of conversations with my brother
1474
00:22:57,133 --> 00:22:58,699
who's actually a tour manager
1475
00:22:58,966 --> 00:23:00,333
um he works for bands like
1476
00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:02,866
Frank Carter and the rattlesnakes and Dumb Broco
1477
00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,733
yeah um uh he looks after them on the road
1478
00:23:05,733 --> 00:23:06,566
and he was kind of
1479
00:23:06,566 --> 00:23:07,266
for a little while
1480
00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:09,766
he's kind of felt like he was over touring
1481
00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:11,066
and I think what this has done
1482
00:23:11,066 --> 00:23:12,666
is just open up conversations like
1483
00:23:12,666 --> 00:23:15,099
we'll never take it for granted again that we can like
1484
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:18,000
visit such beautiful countries and like
1485
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,800
experience it with our like
1486
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,900
best friends you know
1487
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,300
and I think that's one of the things for me
1488
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:23,233
that I'll just
1489
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,133
obviously the gigs out of things
1490
00:23:25,133 --> 00:23:25,699
and being like
1491
00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:28,200
united with our fans again is gonna be amazing
1492
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,133
and that sort of
1493
00:23:29,133 --> 00:23:31,966
adrenaline that comes with the live shows is like
1494
00:23:31,966 --> 00:23:32,966
there's nothing like it
1495
00:23:32,966 --> 00:23:34,999
you know so that's just gonna be such
1496
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,733
such an amazing feeling when it comes back
1497
00:23:36,733 --> 00:23:38,099
but alongside of that
1498
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,700
you know I don't wanna lay in on the tour bus hungover
1499
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:42,266
you know I mean
1500
00:23:42,266 --> 00:23:44,466
I wanna get up and actually see more of the world
1501
00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:45,666
and and and
1502
00:23:45,766 --> 00:23:47,999
and really appreciate the fact that we can uh
1503
00:23:48,333 --> 00:23:49,333
can travel so yeah
1504
00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:50,066
we'll wait and see
1505
00:23:50,066 --> 00:23:51,266
after after
1506
00:23:51,466 --> 00:23:54,433
uh Covid sorted itself out
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