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Our second album,
Slave to the Grind,
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it debuts at number one.
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♪ If you're slave to the grind ♪
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We're getting
ready to go on tour,
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and we were doing a photoshoot
with a good friend of ours,
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a real friend, Lonn
Friend, for RIP Magazine.
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We're shooting a Skid
Row session with the band
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and Sebastian and I go, "Dudes,
you wanna hear something?"
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And I popped the
cassette in, and they-
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♪ ...lights out, it's less ♪
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And Bas goes, "Fuck!"
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Nirvana.
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♪ Entertain us ♪
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♪ I feel stupid and contagious ♪
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I'll never forget Rachel
looking at me and going,
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"Things are about to change."
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I remember this one
particular meeting.
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Teen Spirit has come out.
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The marketing people are about,
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and I remember them
saying, "Don't do anything.
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It's working."
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And the record just exploded.
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Once a band does well,
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A&R people start signing bands
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that are like that, which is how
the hair metal scene happened,
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and that's how the grunge scene
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got bigger and
bigger and bigger.
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Everybody's flying to Seattle,
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like trying to find
the next band.
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And a lot of bands out
of Seattle got signed.
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♪ But I'm gonna break ♪
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♪ I'm gonna break my ♪
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♪ I'm gonna break my
rusty cage and run ♪
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- All of a sudden MTV...
- ♪ I'm going hungry ♪
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♪ I'm going hungry ♪
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It's nonstop Temple of
the Dog, Alice in Chains.
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♪ I'm the man in the box ♪
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- Pearl Jam.
- ♪ Even flow ♪
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♪ Thoughts arrive
like butterflies ♪
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A long time ago, it's
like a lot of the bands
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came from L.A.,
but now it seems like
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a lot of the great bands are
coming from the Seattle area.
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And Pearl Jam is
one of those bands.
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And we're a great band.
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You're a great band.
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Groups like Pearl Jam
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were writing
really strong songs.
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So you can't get away
with fluff anymore.
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The competition's too fierce.
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♪ I nearly lost you there ♪
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This new sound was
saying something different
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than our collective
hard rock brand of music.
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And it was a whole
different culture.
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Grunge was an
anti-rockstar thing.
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They were more
about music connection,
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just a little more thoughtful.
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So all these like crazy getup
outfits, that was like gone.
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You're not gonna see Eddie
Vedder in buttless chaps.
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Thank God.
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Grunge, in a lot of the videos,
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were exactly what
other videos were,
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but that sound and
the look and the attitude
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took it into a whole
different direction.
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With metal, it was
all about, again,
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the exuberance, the excitement.
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I started watching
November Rain and it's like,
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a guy jumping
through a wedding cake
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when it starts to rain.
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That absurdity and the
largeness of it, it's too much.
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♪ Take your time ♪
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You can see then
Nirvana coming up
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with a dog with
the bite collar on.
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It's the anti-video.
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So do they destroy what's
going on with the metal?
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No, but they just said,
"We don't wanna do that."
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I liked a lot of
those bands. A lot.
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But you know,
there was no reason
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to throw the rest
of us in the trash.
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I've never heard of a
band getting a bigger buzz
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quicker than this band, Nirvana.
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- Hi, Riki.
- First of all, love the suit.
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- Thanks a lot.
- Be very comfortable
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on planes, I think.
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People point to grunge,
specifically Nirvana,
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as wielding some sort of
Game of Thrones sword
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and cutting the heart
out of heavy metal music.
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That's ludicrous.
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If you say that
grunge killed metal,
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you're a fucking idiot.
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If you wanna talk
about bands that you say
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kill your music scene,
and you're thinking, well,
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what about the
biggest artist, Nirvana?
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Guess what, people,
you're not saying the G word,
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and that's Garth.
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♪ I've got friends
in low places ♪
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In '92, Nirvana, Pearl Jam,
and Red Hot Chili Peppers
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sold a combined
9 million albums.
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Garth Brooks sold 12.6 million.
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♪ Drove to the church ♪
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Got to be a point
you didn't even care
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about being the number one
if you could be number two
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under Garth, because you
were never gonna beat Garth.
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♪ Life is not tried it
is merely survived ♪
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And pretty soon, all those
people that were going
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to all those rock and roll shows
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were going to country shows.
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And pretty soon you
started having these
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very independent
strong female artists.
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♪ And I'm here to remind you ♪
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So having the
Alanis Morissette...
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♪ When you went away ♪
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♪ Give me one
reason to stay here ♪
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Tracy Chapman.
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♪ I never said nothing ♪
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- Liz Phair.
- ♪ I've been a bad, bad ♪
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♪ If it makes you happy ♪
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♪ Dreams last for... ♪
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♪ Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
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♪ Nothing compares to you ♪
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♪ Zombie, zombie, zombie ♪
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Strong women that
had something to say,
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and they had
their own festivals.
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We had our rock festivals,
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they had their Liz
Fair festivals and...
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- Lilith Fair.
- What did I say, Lilla Fair?
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- Liz Fair.
- Liz Fair?
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You meant Lilith Fair.
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Yeah.
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♪ The water is wide ♪
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Lilith Fair.
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Those are two totally
different things, aren't they?
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You know what's
interesting about genres?
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When one shifts and changes,
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it needs to be filled
in by something else.
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In the same way that
Poison was having
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Nothing But a Good Time,
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Temple of the Dog was
going on a Hunger Strike.
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OK, what's to say
one kills the other?
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What killed the Strip?
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Hair metal had a
hand in taking itself out.
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♪ Whoa, after the rain
washes away the tears ♪
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As metal evolved, a
lot of bands didn't get it,
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and they thought like the image
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was the most important thing.
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♪ And that's all right ♪
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♪ 'Cause that's the way I am ♪
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We were doing
this sort of rebellious
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but fun kind of music.
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There wasn't a lot of
darkness or anything to it.
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♪ And I ♪
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A lot of colorful
antics going on.
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♪ Don't say goodbye ♪
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♪ Say you're
gonna stay forever ♪
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Like M tley Cr e's not
necessarily the best band,
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the best instrumentalists,
but what they were doing
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early on was authentic.
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What diminished over the course
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of the decade was
that authenticity.
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When hair metal bands
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were no longer
the next big thing,
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there was a backlash.
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You know, you
become a laughingstock.
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A lot of those bands who
went from playing arenas
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and theaters were back in clubs.
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Some of them
didn't survive at all.
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MTV made a left turn.
They just stopped playing it.
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That was the media force.
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I couldn't get a gig,
lost my record deal,
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lost the publishing,
everything was gone.
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I was sitting in Rick Krim's
office when somebody came in
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and said, "Hey, man, you
got the new Metallica video?"
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And it was Nothing Else Matters.
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♪ Nothing else matters ♪
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And I saw Rick's nervous
face, usher the video out,
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making sure I wouldn't go,
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"Hey, man, let me check
out the new Metallica video."
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♪ Never cared for
what they know ♪
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Metallica throwing darts
at my poster in the video,
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I didn't typically
think it's cool
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to slag off your
fellow musician.
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Hey, Butt-Head, check it
out. I'm going as a wuss.
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♪ She's only 17, whoo, ah ♪
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Our name was toxic.
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This was very clear before
Beavis and Butt-Head
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and after Beavis and Butt-Head.
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This is cool, huh, guys?
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Shut up, Stewart.
We're trying to watch TV.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I was on the
scene of the crime.
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I had my T-shirt
on Stewart's chest.
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I am the guy that represents
everything that sucks.
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I lost all my confidence.
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It really shook me to the
core of my being, you know.
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What the hell is your
mom's problem, Stewart?
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Yeah. Your mom sucks.
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We were no longer a
viable musical entity.
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It was horrifying.
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There was inner turmoil
in the band a little bit
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because we didn't
know what to do.
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I didn't see it going anywhere.
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So we called it quits.
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I needed to do other
things that I liked doing
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other than music.
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A lot of soul-searching,
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spent a lot of time with my dog,
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played a lot of golf.
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There's not a big
audience for that.
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What do you see for
yourself in the next five years?
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Well, I don't know.
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All of a sudden I felt
it had just been ripped
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out from underneath
me, you know?
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And I was devastated because
I had nothing else to my life.
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Nothing. It was all
that mattered to me.
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So I'm not gonna
let that happen again.
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So, you know, I don't know.
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We'll see.
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All right, I see a gem in here.
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Our first single, Edge
of a Broken Heart.
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I wonder if this
even plays anymore.
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We look serious, don't we?
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'Cause it was for a metal
magazine and we had to be...
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bitchin'.
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Looked like my
closet threw up on me.
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"Vixen, the Return
of Girl Group Rock."
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We brought something
back apparently
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that I didn't know
had gone anywhere.
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Ooh, "Wild Women's Den."
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So my mom actually
got a lot of these.
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She'd go up to the
counter with all these
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like rock magazines,
and she would go,
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"Oh, my daughter, my
daughter's in one of these bands."
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You could see my amalgam
fillings in my molars.
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So I went and I
got 'em all replaced
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with like
tooth-colored fillings.
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It says I'm 5'7", 128 pounds.
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OK.
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Jan.
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She's one of the nicest
people you will ever meet
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in your entire life.
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She was reforming the band,
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wanted to get all the
originals back together.
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We were all excited. We
were talking on the phone.
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We were getting through
all of the old issues,
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just knocking 'em out
of the way one at a time.
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And we finally got to the point
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where we were ready to do it.
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We were gonna make
an announcement.
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And she calls up and says,
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"Well, we're gonna have
to delay this for a little bit."
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It turned out she
had ovarian cancer.
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To make matters worse, it
was stage four ovarian cancer.
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A couple weeks
later she was gone.
253
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So, yeah.
254
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But at least we had that.
255
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We had the moments
to kind of get through
256
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a lot of old cobwebs that
needed to be removed.
257
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But yeah, she was
something else. Miss her.
258
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They say a manager
is blamed for everything
259
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and credited with nothing.
260
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But for me, it was like,
not just Guns N' Roses.
261
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♪ Welcome to the jungle ♪
262
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♪ Don't need nothin' ♪
263
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- It was Poison.
- ♪ But a good time ♪
264
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♪ He's the one they
call Dr. Feelgood ♪
265
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And it was Motley Crue.
266
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Um... you know.
267
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I had these hopes it would
be forever with these bands,
268
00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:29,475
but it was always sort
of the same scenario
269
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where I would develop
them, and then some corporate
270
00:13:33,013 --> 00:13:37,450
record guy would swoop in
and steal the band somehow.
271
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So I decided that I wanted
to be an A&R person.
272
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The guys are just
wild and crazy guys,
273
00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:51,563
but I'm really proud of
'em, and best of luck.
274
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When they brought me to Geffen,
275
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I was considered a street scout.
276
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I went out every night
277
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and just looked at
bands in the clubs.
278
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Geffen was such that I could
sign one band a year on my own,
279
00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:06,980
and then if I wanted
to sign another band,
280
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I had to go through Tom Zutaut.
281
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I was Tom's last priority.
282
00:14:13,385 --> 00:14:17,657
I would sit in his waiting
room for hours sometimes,
283
00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:21,128
waiting for him to like
take a meeting with me.
284
00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:24,663
It was such a
male-dominated culture,
285
00:14:24,730 --> 00:14:28,600
but I kind of tried to
be one of the guys.
286
00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:33,539
I think that's why I was
able to get as far as I did
287
00:14:33,605 --> 00:14:35,142
in the music business.
288
00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:42,115
Getting the paycheck was
great, and being able to sign bands
289
00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:44,317
to Geffen Records, it was great.
290
00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,187
But most nights I felt like I
was having a heart attack
291
00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:51,490
because it was like so insane.
292
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This is West Hollywood!
293
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Where are you guys
gonna be tomorrow night?
294
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We'll be at Camp
Hollywood tomorrow night
295
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- if you wanna show up.
- OK, I'm up.
296
00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:04,803
Well, I was 15 when
I first started partying.
297
00:15:05,605 --> 00:15:07,506
- $5.
- Five bucks? Ooh, baby.
298
00:15:08,307 --> 00:15:10,243
I would go to the
Rainbow and have a couple
299
00:15:10,309 --> 00:15:14,214
of Long Island iced teas
and be out of my mind.
300
00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,515
I don't know what
they have in that,
301
00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:20,320
but it's some strong shit.
302
00:15:20,386 --> 00:15:23,255
I had met a doctor that
would write me a prescription
303
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for 30 Quaaludes a month.
304
00:15:26,725 --> 00:15:28,360
It got to the point
where hangovers were
305
00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:31,063
lasting three days.
306
00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:34,366
It's fun until it's
not fun anymore.
307
00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:38,837
And once it's not fun
anymore, it's never fun again.
308
00:15:38,904 --> 00:15:45,611
I started walking dogs
for a living. It got really bad.
309
00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:51,551
The question in my mind
was always, is this all there is?
310
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Welcome to the Crue, Corabi!
311
00:16:06,265 --> 00:16:08,134
They put out a press release
312
00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:11,703
saying that John Corabi's
the new singer for Motley.
313
00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:14,941
For a bit, it was pretty cool.
314
00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:17,043
♪ He's the one they
call Dr. Feelgood ♪
315
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♪ He's the one that
makes you feel all right ♪
316
00:16:18,977 --> 00:16:24,850
It was fun, it was
neurotic, it was hair-raising.
317
00:16:25,717 --> 00:16:30,789
Every adjective you could
think of, that was Motley Crue.
318
00:16:30,856 --> 00:16:33,826
♪ I'm on my way ♪
319
00:16:33,893 --> 00:16:35,727
♪ Home sweet home ♪
320
00:16:35,794 --> 00:16:37,730
Ticket sales were bad,
321
00:16:37,797 --> 00:16:41,600
but everybody was in
that grind at that point.
322
00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:45,172
The only bands that
were really selling tickets
323
00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:48,075
were all the Seattle bands.
324
00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:51,811
We'd started working on
the record Motley Crue.
325
00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:54,746
I don't really see
it like as Motley
326
00:16:54,813 --> 00:16:57,350
intentionally trying to
write a grunge record.
327
00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:01,321
We just jammed.
328
00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:04,655
It was four snot-nosed shitheads
sitting in a room together.
329
00:17:04,722 --> 00:17:08,528
♪ Everybody wants
a piece of the action ♪
330
00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,029
And it just kind of
turned it into the record
331
00:17:11,097 --> 00:17:12,832
that it turned into.
332
00:17:12,897 --> 00:17:18,203
♪ Oh, life, it's
misunderstood them ♪
333
00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:20,307
♪ So close your eyes and dream ♪
334
00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:24,111
I love the record, I love the
music that we wrote together
335
00:17:24,175 --> 00:17:26,313
and I think it was
a brilliant record.
336
00:17:34,052 --> 00:17:38,357
♪ Oh ♪
337
00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:41,827
♪ Monkey business, slippin'
on the track, monkey business ♪
338
00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,730
That thing that
Rachel had mentioned
339
00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:45,632
in my mom's house,
340
00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:48,701
it's gonna be trouble, we
certainly saw that happening.
341
00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:50,512
Skid Row frontman
Sebastian Bach became
342
00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:52,672
rock's latest embarrassment
this week when a picture
343
00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,450
of him wearing a T-shirt
with the declaration
344
00:17:54,473 --> 00:17:56,075
"AIDS kills fags dead"
345
00:17:56,143 --> 00:17:58,211
appeared in "Metal
Edge" magazine.
346
00:17:58,278 --> 00:18:00,547
We had the horrible T-shirt.
347
00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:03,048
The shirt that I was
wearing, as you might know,
348
00:18:03,115 --> 00:18:06,085
-says, "AIDS," it's like the-
349
00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:08,154
- Raid logo.
- It's the Raid, you know,
350
00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:10,156
Raid, it's pretty harsh.
351
00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:15,528
Things started to
get a bit tenuous.
352
00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:20,366
After touring 17 months,
we could not coexist,
353
00:18:20,432 --> 00:18:22,568
mainly with Sebastian,
so we ended up
354
00:18:22,634 --> 00:18:24,770
getting two different
buses for the band.
355
00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:27,740
But I would go back and
forth with Sebastian's bus
356
00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:31,178
just to try to keep some sort
of glue, some sort of bond.
357
00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:37,849
Who the fuck did that,
man? Who the fuck did that?
358
00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:41,019
Was that you, cock sucker?
359
00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:44,089
We had the incident in
Springfield, Massachusetts
360
00:18:44,156 --> 00:18:46,459
of Sebastian
throwing a bottle back
361
00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:49,296
and hitting a female
audience member.
362
00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:52,265
You know what I'm gonna do?
Just get out of the fucking way!
363
00:19:04,510 --> 00:19:06,378
The worst part
about that is someone
364
00:19:06,445 --> 00:19:09,882
got permanently injured
because of someone's actions
365
00:19:09,949 --> 00:19:11,683
that were in our band.
366
00:19:13,051 --> 00:19:15,054
The crowds like hated us.
367
00:19:16,222 --> 00:19:17,890
We were getting spit on.
368
00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:20,926
We were getting bottles
of piss thrown at us.
369
00:19:20,992 --> 00:19:22,561
It was obvious.
370
00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:24,497
When we got done with that tour,
371
00:19:24,564 --> 00:19:26,398
we all went our separate ways.
372
00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,201
We didn't say a
word to each other.
373
00:19:31,037 --> 00:19:34,406
I was having massive
panic and anxiety attacks.
374
00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,278
This black tidal
wave kept just building
375
00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:40,779
and building and building.
376
00:19:42,914 --> 00:19:47,920
The stigma is, you're
crazy. Put him away.
377
00:19:48,488 --> 00:19:51,657
And that they did.
378
00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:04,436
I can't get a deal.
Lost my deal.
379
00:20:04,503 --> 00:20:05,805
No one's gonna sign me.
380
00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:13,045
I was forced to redefine
myself as a musician.
381
00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:18,049
I moved to Santa Fe, New
Mexico, bought a house,
382
00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:20,051
put a studio in the
house, and thought,
383
00:20:20,118 --> 00:20:23,455
I'm gonna redevelop
the way I create music.
384
00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:29,961
Got three-quarters of the
way through my first solo album
385
00:20:30,028 --> 00:20:33,299
and then my wife got in
a car accident and died.
386
00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:38,170
It was fucking surreal.
387
00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,142
There was a lot of
praying going on, man.
388
00:20:46,244 --> 00:20:49,147
I did the same thing
I always did, I just...
389
00:20:49,214 --> 00:20:50,982
went back to the music.
390
00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:02,862
It was at that
moment that I said,
391
00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:05,365
there's nothing else
here for me to do,
392
00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,601
so I'm gonna finally
try to do the one thing
393
00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:10,569
I've always wanted to do,
394
00:21:10,636 --> 00:21:13,772
which is write orchestral music.
395
00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:24,215
Learn it on their term.
396
00:21:24,282 --> 00:21:26,452
And I'm gonna compose...
397
00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,520
classical music.
398
00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:49,375
The Motley fans,
they're a strange breed.
399
00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:50,843
You wanna hit all these things?
400
00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:52,744
Yeah, if that's
OK, I appreciate it.
401
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,981
How's that?
402
00:21:56,048 --> 00:21:58,651
Some of the fans were
OK with me joining.
403
00:21:58,718 --> 00:22:00,653
These two? And this?
404
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,365
You don't have to do all
that too, if you don't want to.
405
00:22:02,388 --> 00:22:03,598
And then there was
other ones that just
406
00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,057
weren't gonna have it at all.
407
00:22:05,124 --> 00:22:08,059
I never saw anybody with a sign,
408
00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:11,830
like, " fuck you," or
"where's Vince," you know?
409
00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:15,000
Everybody that did come
came to have a good time.
410
00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,141
It was a really
substantial record.
411
00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,143
It's hard for a
frontman to leave,
412
00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:26,479
and for you to have
success with a new frontman.
413
00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,247
It's not done.
414
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:31,884
And Motley had Vince Neil
since, you know, day one.
415
00:22:33,118 --> 00:22:37,056
The studio record prior
to mine sold 12 million.
416
00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:41,160
You know, mine
didn't even do a million.
417
00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:46,031
We had started working on
what became Generation Swine.
418
00:22:46,097 --> 00:22:52,605
As easy, and fun, and
creative as the first record was,
419
00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:57,375
the next record was the
complete antithesis of that.
420
00:22:57,443 --> 00:22:59,111
None of us were getting along.
421
00:22:59,177 --> 00:23:01,247
There was some rumors
422
00:23:01,313 --> 00:23:03,382
going around that maybe
they were talking to Vince,
423
00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:05,518
maybe they weren't.
424
00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:09,689
There was definitely some
tension with a lot of the fans.
425
00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:16,228
And, the minute they brought
Vince back, it was all gone.
426
00:23:17,262 --> 00:23:18,396
And I get it.
427
00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,537
I was devastated
428
00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:27,405
that I wasn't gonna
continue on with the band,
429
00:23:27,473 --> 00:23:29,642
but at the same
time, I was relieved.
430
00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:33,512
It's those four
guys, as it should be.
431
00:23:34,646 --> 00:23:37,383
And I'll always be that
little asterisk on the side.
432
00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:58,170
My mom and I.
433
00:23:58,237 --> 00:24:00,006
Is a...
434
00:24:00,071 --> 00:24:02,008
affectionately known
as Mama Snake.
435
00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:04,276
And she was like
the band mom and
436
00:24:04,343 --> 00:24:06,077
we would be
sleeping on her floor,
437
00:24:06,144 --> 00:24:07,823
we'd party 'till four
o'clock in the morning
438
00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:10,249
at her house, she
never said a word.
439
00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:12,585
I'd be like, "Ma, food!"
440
00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:14,653
And she'd get up at
2:30 in the morning
441
00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,989
and make us food,
it was incredible.
442
00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,857
My dad...
443
00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:21,259
left when I was two.
444
00:24:21,326 --> 00:24:24,430
My brother, Rick,
was kind of, like,
445
00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,699
the one who was
raising me, if you will.
446
00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:29,035
He was like my hero.
447
00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:32,337
He got drafted to Vietnam.
448
00:24:32,403 --> 00:24:35,708
The first line in 18 and Life,
449
00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:38,978
"Ricky was a young boy,
he had a heart of stone,"
450
00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:41,614
was written about him.
451
00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:50,890
Around the age of
452
00:24:50,957 --> 00:24:52,892
12 years old,
453
00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:56,895
I was molested by some
boys in my neighborhood.
454
00:24:56,962 --> 00:24:59,898
People I trusted, who
were a little older than me.
455
00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:03,234
My body
456
00:25:03,301 --> 00:25:05,037
and brain
457
00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:06,305
shut down
458
00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:12,243
to make this as
unreal as possible.
459
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:15,714
I viewed it from a
third-person standpoint.
460
00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:18,984
So, I saw it happen.
461
00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:20,419
But it didn't happen to me.
462
00:25:24,323 --> 00:25:28,027
The person that was
on stage, and is on stage,
463
00:25:28,094 --> 00:25:30,028
is mostly a character
that was developed
464
00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:33,833
as a defense
mechanism for fear of
465
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,134
what other people are
going to think of me.
466
00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:41,907
I ended up in a hospital because
467
00:25:41,973 --> 00:25:43,275
I had had enough.
468
00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:46,945
I still didn't have
the one key thing,
469
00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:48,180
was how do you fight it?
470
00:25:50,415 --> 00:25:51,683
I went to see this doctor,
471
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:55,186
and he was the
first psychiatrist
472
00:25:55,253 --> 00:25:57,890
that sat down and had
a conversation with me.
473
00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:04,195
So, I started treatment, and
474
00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:07,098
I started, I was dedicated
with my medicine.
475
00:26:07,165 --> 00:26:10,903
I was dedicated with therapy.
476
00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:14,906
And, sure enough,
man, slowly, but surely.
477
00:26:14,973 --> 00:26:17,609
And the more it helped,
the more I went to therapy,
478
00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:20,747
I started coming back.
479
00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:26,786
I am completely
aware, acutely aware,
480
00:26:26,853 --> 00:26:29,087
of how lucky and blessed I am
481
00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:30,757
for all that I've been given.
482
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,763
♪ Turn on the TV, 'cause
I got nowhere to go ♪
483
00:26:37,829 --> 00:26:39,832
You know, you
gotta go out, and...
484
00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:41,634
you've gotta perform,
and entertain people.
485
00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:43,635
That's your job.
486
00:26:43,702 --> 00:26:47,573
♪ A 13-year-old boy robs
a store so he can eat ♪
487
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,317
But that's the thing
that means the most.
488
00:26:49,340 --> 00:26:50,843
That's why I'm here.
489
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,244
You know, that's
why we're all here.
490
00:26:53,311 --> 00:26:55,152
We're not punching the
clock, that's one thing.
491
00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,221
Like, we don't mail it in.
492
00:26:57,348 --> 00:26:59,351
I get to go out and, you know,
493
00:26:59,417 --> 00:27:00,551
with my brothers.
494
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,367
I was really upset
for a long time.
495
00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:21,440
At some point, you realize you,
496
00:27:21,507 --> 00:27:23,976
you're gonna run outta money.
497
00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:27,145
I wanted a family, I
wanted to be a mom.
498
00:27:27,212 --> 00:27:29,548
I wanted some other things.
499
00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:34,119
I decided to go back to school.
500
00:27:34,185 --> 00:27:37,655
I enjoyed using
that side of my brain.
501
00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:44,230
You study, you do the
work, you take your A,
502
00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:46,231
and you say, "Yeah!"
503
00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:51,971
It's exactly what I
hoped it would be.
504
00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:55,307
I go home, I do what I want,
spend time with my family.
505
00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:08,519
In 2013,
506
00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:09,855
I met Justin.
507
00:28:11,656 --> 00:28:14,093
And just hit it off.
508
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,864
You know, sparks
flying, it was crazy.
509
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:20,199
We went to Vegas,
510
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,768
and we got married.
511
00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,502
Everybody was like, "What?"
512
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,214
He's this amazing guitarist.
513
00:28:36,281 --> 00:28:37,482
Great writer.
514
00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:40,618
We've put out three albums.
515
00:28:40,685 --> 00:28:42,297
♪ Don't waste your
time on their petty ways ♪
516
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,190
We're working on
album number four.
517
00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:48,059
I can't even tell you
518
00:28:48,126 --> 00:28:50,028
how good it feels
519
00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:53,531
to have the person that
you love the most in the world
520
00:28:53,598 --> 00:28:57,669
also be your absolute favorite
musical partner in the world.
521
00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:10,415
This is...
522
00:29:10,481 --> 00:29:12,651
the building I lived in
with Guns N' Roses,
523
00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:14,752
when I managed them.
524
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:17,256
It's this one, it's at
the bottom, here.
525
00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:20,826
- Hey.
- You wanna come in?
526
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:22,428
Yeah, let us in.
527
00:29:22,493 --> 00:29:24,563
Looking back on
it, I didn't realize
528
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:26,932
how crazy it really was.
529
00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:30,001
Now, it's, like,
I have a lawyer,
530
00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:31,636
and she makes me wrap
531
00:29:31,702 --> 00:29:34,240
everything really
tightly in paper.
532
00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,008
You know what
your kryptonite is?
533
00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:39,811
Your kryptonite is musicians.
534
00:29:39,878 --> 00:29:42,513
You lived with the whole
band in this apartment?
535
00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:44,516
- Yeah.
- It is very small.
536
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,617
Could you, sorry.
537
00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:48,997
I've, like, put up with so
much bullshit in my life
538
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:51,457
that I'm not willing to
put up with it anymore.
539
00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:02,567
Everybody hits a bottom to quit.
540
00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:06,771
Getting sober
541
00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:09,208
was the hardest thing
I've ever done in my life.
542
00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:12,678
I cried every day
for, like, six months.
543
00:30:12,743 --> 00:30:15,814
It was awful.
544
00:30:15,882 --> 00:30:19,384
By the grace of God, I'm
sober and I'm still here.
545
00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:23,521
A lot of my counterparts aren't.
546
00:30:23,588 --> 00:30:26,657
This wall has, like, all
the bands' names on it.
547
00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:30,328
That have been in The Rainbow.
548
00:30:30,395 --> 00:30:33,365
In AA, they talk about
the reason at the core
549
00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:38,369
of your being why you
are doing these things.
550
00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:41,240
Which is horrifying, you know?
551
00:30:43,241 --> 00:30:46,244
OK, why do these people
treat me like a doormat?
552
00:30:46,311 --> 00:30:48,047
It's like, you know,
553
00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,883
I had to really reinvent myself
554
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:53,684
and find my own
self-esteem to like
555
00:30:53,751 --> 00:30:55,787
move forward in this game.
556
00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:02,028
I wanna mention a couple people
557
00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:04,563
who were really responsible
for taking this derelict,
558
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:06,765
fucked up, dysfunctional band,
559
00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:09,035
and seeing
something in it early on.
560
00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:11,202
It was Vicky Hamilton,
who tried to manage us
561
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:12,770
with all her heart.
562
00:31:12,837 --> 00:31:14,373
Slash and Steven thanked me
563
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,750
at the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame.
564
00:31:15,773 --> 00:31:18,277
I wanna thank Vicky Hamilton.
565
00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:21,380
That was the first time
there had been any kind of
566
00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:23,781
acknowledgement
that I had helped them.
567
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,021
I do know what I did.
568
00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:33,558
And, to me, it doesn't matter
what other people believe,
569
00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,127
or say, or anything like that.
570
00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:38,364
I know what I did.
571
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:40,031
Slash knows what I did,
572
00:31:40,098 --> 00:31:43,001
because he was there
doing it with me, you know?
573
00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,580
I guess I was around 50.
574
00:31:55,646 --> 00:31:58,784
And I was having
like this midlife crisis.
575
00:31:58,849 --> 00:32:00,618
My dad called me.
576
00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:04,957
And I was kind of
taking stock in my life.
577
00:32:05,023 --> 00:32:06,758
I was sitting there
talking to him,
578
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,260
and I was saying
things like, you know,
579
00:32:09,327 --> 00:32:12,330
all the shit that I've
done, you know,
580
00:32:12,397 --> 00:32:15,500
the Scream, and Motley, and
581
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:18,237
Ratt, and Union,
582
00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:20,105
and I'm 50 years old now.
583
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,942
Nd I met this girl, but
I'm living in her house.
584
00:32:24,009 --> 00:32:25,576
I don't own anything.
585
00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:28,279
Like, I have nothing to show
586
00:32:28,346 --> 00:32:30,848
for all of the work
that I've done
587
00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:32,851
my whole life.
588
00:32:32,917 --> 00:32:34,952
But, my dad
589
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:38,656
stopped me dead in my
tracks, and he goes, "Listen."
590
00:32:38,723 --> 00:32:42,461
He said, "When I was a
kid, I wanted to be an artist."
591
00:32:42,528 --> 00:32:44,796
And he goes, "I fell in
love with your mother."
592
00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:48,634
"We got married and you
came along shortly afterwards."
593
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:52,104
"My dream of being
an artist, I put it aside."
594
00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:54,140
"I put on a suit and tie,
595
00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:55,941
and I went to work."
596
00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:59,010
He said, "You,
on the other hand,
597
00:32:59,077 --> 00:33:01,712
you did everything you
said you were gonna do."
598
00:33:01,779 --> 00:33:03,781
"You made a lot of money."
599
00:33:03,848 --> 00:33:05,884
"You took care of your son."
600
00:33:05,951 --> 00:33:08,153
"You took care of your mother."
601
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,056
"You did it all
602
00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:15,294
playing your guitar
exactly as you wanted."
603
00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,896
"You're a bigger
man than I'll ever be."
604
00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:22,567
He put everything
into perspective for me.
605
00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:24,903
But, I think that
was the point where
606
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:27,005
I finally got
607
00:33:27,073 --> 00:33:28,574
the seal of approval.
608
00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:33,511
When he did pass away,
609
00:33:33,578 --> 00:33:36,382
I found his old foot
locker from the Army.
610
00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:40,051
And there was my
dad's medals on one side,
611
00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,988
and the whole rest of
the footlocker was like,
612
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:46,592
there was every fucking
magazine that I had ever been in.
613
00:33:46,657 --> 00:33:50,061
Like, pictures circled, cut out.
614
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:53,030
And it was like, you know what?
615
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:55,134
I did OK.
616
00:33:58,769 --> 00:34:00,138
Life is good.
617
00:34:16,987 --> 00:34:20,592
The universe dealt
me a hell of a blow
618
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,494
to put me in the place
that I needed to be to
619
00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:25,797
achieve,
620
00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:29,701
artistically, what
I was capable of.
621
00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:32,304
I never thought it
was in my reach to
622
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,340
have an orchestra play my music.
623
00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:36,108
I just wanted to do it, because,
624
00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:38,344
you know, I wanted
to know the language.
625
00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,146
Studied for a long,
long time, man,
626
00:34:40,211 --> 00:34:42,847
before I wrote anything good.
627
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,550
Finally, I wrote this
ballet called Ghosts,
628
00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:49,987
and I sent it to Chris Wheeldon,
a world-renowned choreographer.
629
00:34:50,054 --> 00:34:51,722
And Chris called
me back and said,
630
00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:54,626
"I want to use it for
San Francisco Ballet."
631
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:56,327
Conversations with Nijinsky
632
00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:59,465
ended up getting
nominated for a Grammy in
633
00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:01,800
contemporary
classical composition.
634
00:35:08,739 --> 00:35:11,909
I've just done it for
the love of it, man.
635
00:35:39,505 --> 00:35:42,007
There's very few classical
composers you'll hear
636
00:35:42,072 --> 00:35:43,842
that can really make
the orchestra rock
637
00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:45,177
like a rock band.
638
00:35:58,623 --> 00:35:59,891
It's all been very surreal.
639
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,931
To go into the ranks
of a whole other genre
640
00:36:05,996 --> 00:36:08,099
and to really be embraced.
641
00:36:20,811 --> 00:36:22,380
The '80s metal genre
642
00:36:22,447 --> 00:36:24,782
was so much about
having a good time.
643
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,452
It was about getting laid,
644
00:36:27,518 --> 00:36:30,621
and getting loud, and drunk,
645
00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:34,092
and not worrying about the
pressures of society so much.
646
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,427
Just, kind of letting it go.
647
00:36:36,494 --> 00:36:38,230
Having an escape.
648
00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:43,835
In the last like 10 years,
the country music scene
649
00:36:43,902 --> 00:36:46,972
has adopted that
whole zeitgeist.
650
00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:54,579
Have you people been
to a country concert lately?
651
00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:58,349
Country is now the
'80s, '90s rock and roll.
652
00:36:58,416 --> 00:37:00,251
♪ Baby you're a song ♪
653
00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:02,820
♪ You make me wanna
roll my windows down ♪
654
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,956
♪ And cruise ♪
655
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:07,034
♪ When this country cutie
with a rock and roll booty ♪
656
00:37:07,057 --> 00:37:09,327
♪ Came struttin' in
through the door ♪
657
00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:11,697
Now they're singing
about meeting the girls,
658
00:37:11,762 --> 00:37:13,998
and partying with your friends.
659
00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,668
♪ You can find me in the
back of a jacked-up tailgate ♪
660
00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,536
You know, "We're
gonna pull in the river
661
00:37:18,603 --> 00:37:20,672
and drink on my,
drink in my truck."
662
00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,541
♪ And I'll find peace ♪
663
00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:24,251
♪ At the bottom of a
real tall cold drink ♪
664
00:37:24,275 --> 00:37:27,713
"With a drink in my hand,
and she was so fine."
665
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,153
The songs that will
live on from the '80s,
666
00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:37,822
in the same way
that The Beatles,
667
00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,891
and The Stones, and
the Zeppelin songs live on.
668
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,527
But the ones that we remember,
669
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,697
they define the groups
that define the era.
670
00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:51,570
♪ Yeah, love is all around you ♪
671
00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,572
And you know
what? It's not dead.
672
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,543
Because anytime
I put on any record
673
00:37:57,608 --> 00:38:00,144
from that music
that I wanna listen to,
674
00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:01,813
it still sounds fucking good.
675
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,014
♪ ...just want you ♪
676
00:38:04,081 --> 00:38:06,016
Heavy metal music
and hard rock music
677
00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:08,487
never, ever died.
678
00:38:08,554 --> 00:38:10,655
From the early
Deep Purple records
679
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:12,157
and Black Sabbath records,
680
00:38:12,222 --> 00:38:15,260
all the way through to today.
681
00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:19,063
Skid Row is still out
playing to great audiences.
682
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,032
To this day, we still
get people talking about
683
00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:24,101
what that record meant to them.
684
00:38:24,168 --> 00:38:27,438
I'm so filled with gratitude
685
00:38:27,505 --> 00:38:30,775
to be a part of something
that affected people
686
00:38:30,842 --> 00:38:32,777
on such a deep level.
687
00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:34,380
It's a pretty special thing.
688
00:38:38,949 --> 00:38:41,686
Metal never dies,
it's like a virus.
689
00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:44,356
Metal just comes back
as a different variant.
690
00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:45,623
♪ I wanna rock ♪
691
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:47,025
♪ Rock ♪
692
00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,760
You're into metal?
I'm into metal.
693
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,429
You're into metal?
I'm into metal.
694
00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:53,331
We're gonna thrash!
695
00:38:54,865 --> 00:38:58,235
The real metal fans,
they're still around.
696
00:38:58,302 --> 00:38:59,371
Metal.
697
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,742
Stop. You're in.
698
00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,844
- Oh, cool.
- What's in your wallet?
699
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,581
Oh, this is my jam.
700
00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:11,782
You know, this is back
when men were real men,
701
00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:13,818
'cause they weren't
afraid to be women.
702
00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:16,086
So, definitely, in
the last five years,
703
00:39:16,153 --> 00:39:19,157
I have noticed the resurgence.
704
00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:22,327
Motley Crue has un-retired
and is back on the road.
705
00:39:22,393 --> 00:39:26,998
Cut to today, the teachers
unions are singing...
706
00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:30,101
♪ We're not gonna take it ♪
707
00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,804
♪ No, we ain't gonna take it ♪
708
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,608
"No, we ain't gonna take
it." And, it's just amazing.
709
00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:39,445
I'm always gonna be that
guy from Headbanger's Ball.
710
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:42,447
This show is much more
important than I even realized.
711
00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:46,652
I'm so proud and blessed
to have been part of that.
712
00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:51,088
♪ Love will find a way ♪
713
00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:53,925
I wasn't raised
in an environment
714
00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,661
or with the ethos that
715
00:39:55,726 --> 00:39:58,829
it was a birthright
to be successful.
716
00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,666
It's a gift.
717
00:40:00,731 --> 00:40:03,469
It's an absolute gift, and
you need to treat it as such.
718
00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:06,538
Whatever good comes your way,
719
00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:08,539
take it as such.
720
00:40:08,606 --> 00:40:10,175
There's gonna be bad times.
721
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,177
You just gotta get through 'em.
722
00:40:12,242 --> 00:40:15,213
Music changes people's lives.
723
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,449
Make the world
better through music,
724
00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:20,385
that's kind of my philosophy.
725
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,688
Figure out something to say
that's going to save the world.
726
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,222
You know?
727
00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:26,625
Because we need it.
728
00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:32,163
Life is as it should be.
I don't regret anything.
729
00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:34,865
'Cause everything that I've done
730
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,001
has led me to this point,
731
00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:40,070
right now, talking to you.
732
00:40:40,137 --> 00:40:43,474
And, cut.
733
00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:44,610
And that's a wrap.
734
00:40:47,311 --> 00:40:49,981
Yeah, thank you, guys.
735
00:40:50,047 --> 00:40:52,016
♪ I know ♪
736
00:41:03,661 --> 00:41:05,530
Wanna put a little
acoustic down?
737
00:41:05,597 --> 00:41:07,297
Sure.
738
00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:27,085
♪ She wakes up on the
wrong side of the bed alone ♪
739
00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:31,889
♪ Thinks about the time
that's passed her by ♪
740
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,561
Oh, my God!
741
00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:52,610
This is Diablo, take one.
742
00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:54,278
- My name's Kip.
- Oh...
743
00:42:06,657 --> 00:42:09,594
♪ She's only 48 ♪
744
00:42:14,164 --> 00:42:16,034
Ah!
745
00:42:20,838 --> 00:42:22,574
Oh! Eww!
746
00:42:22,641 --> 00:42:26,677
Gonna put my parent's
video on Instagram.
747
00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:28,489
My wife says, "You
don't drink enough water."
748
00:42:28,512 --> 00:42:30,280
I said, "What do you mean?"
749
00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:32,293
"They put water in those
coffee machines, don't they?"
750
00:42:32,317 --> 00:42:33,661
I just like my water
over coffee beans
751
00:42:33,684 --> 00:42:36,855
before it gets into me.
752
00:42:36,922 --> 00:42:38,523
I picked the wrong role model.
753
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,626
I wanted to be Keith Richards.
754
00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:43,628
I realize, now, only one guy
gets to be Keith Richards,
755
00:42:43,695 --> 00:42:46,197
and that's Keith Richards.
756
00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:48,934
I felt like the
bands that I was in
757
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,536
were not managed the way
I would manage the band.
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And so, that I started
managing because
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it was kind of do-it-yourself.
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♪ A love that will never be ♪
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