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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:13,946 Our second album, Slave to the Grind, 2 00:00:14,013 --> 00:00:15,916 it debuts at number one. 3 00:00:15,983 --> 00:00:18,185 ♪ If you're slave to the grind ♪ 4 00:00:18,251 --> 00:00:20,053 We're getting ready to go on tour, 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,692 and we were doing a photoshoot with a good friend of ours, 6 00:00:24,757 --> 00:00:28,528 a real friend, Lonn Friend, for RIP Magazine. 7 00:00:28,596 --> 00:00:33,201 We're shooting a Skid Row session with the band 8 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:37,570 and Sebastian and I go, "Dudes, you wanna hear something?" 9 00:00:37,637 --> 00:00:40,408 And I popped the cassette in, and they- 10 00:00:40,473 --> 00:00:42,609 ♪ ...lights out, it's less ♪ 11 00:00:42,676 --> 00:00:45,313 And Bas goes, "Fuck!" 12 00:00:45,378 --> 00:00:46,546 Nirvana. 13 00:00:46,613 --> 00:00:48,316 ♪ Entertain us ♪ 14 00:00:48,381 --> 00:00:51,451 ♪ I feel stupid and contagious ♪ 15 00:00:51,518 --> 00:00:56,223 I'll never forget Rachel looking at me and going, 16 00:00:56,289 --> 00:00:58,926 "Things are about to change." 17 00:01:08,701 --> 00:01:12,805 I remember this one particular meeting. 18 00:01:12,873 --> 00:01:15,442 Teen Spirit has come out. 19 00:01:15,509 --> 00:01:17,277 The marketing people are about, 20 00:01:17,344 --> 00:01:20,480 and I remember them saying, "Don't do anything. 21 00:01:20,548 --> 00:01:22,650 It's working." 22 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:26,454 And the record just exploded. 23 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:28,087 Once a band does well, 24 00:01:28,156 --> 00:01:29,956 A&R people start signing bands 25 00:01:30,022 --> 00:01:32,526 that are like that, which is how the hair metal scene happened, 26 00:01:32,593 --> 00:01:33,859 and that's how the grunge scene 27 00:01:33,926 --> 00:01:35,496 got bigger and bigger and bigger. 28 00:01:35,563 --> 00:01:37,465 Everybody's flying to Seattle, 29 00:01:37,531 --> 00:01:39,700 like trying to find the next band. 30 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:42,135 And a lot of bands out of Seattle got signed. 31 00:01:42,203 --> 00:01:44,671 ♪ But I'm gonna break ♪ 32 00:01:44,737 --> 00:01:47,375 ♪ I'm gonna break my ♪ 33 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,477 ♪ I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run ♪ 34 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:52,045 - All of a sudden MTV... - ♪ I'm going hungry ♪ 35 00:01:52,111 --> 00:01:54,114 ♪ I'm going hungry ♪ 36 00:01:54,182 --> 00:01:57,284 It's nonstop Temple of the Dog, Alice in Chains. 37 00:01:57,350 --> 00:02:01,489 ♪ I'm the man in the box ♪ 38 00:02:01,555 --> 00:02:05,659 - Pearl Jam. - ♪ Even flow ♪ 39 00:02:05,725 --> 00:02:09,028 ♪ Thoughts arrive like butterflies ♪ 40 00:02:09,096 --> 00:02:11,465 A long time ago, it's like a lot of the bands 41 00:02:11,532 --> 00:02:13,334 came from L.A., but now it seems like 42 00:02:13,401 --> 00:02:16,503 a lot of the great bands are coming from the Seattle area. 43 00:02:16,569 --> 00:02:18,372 And Pearl Jam is one of those bands. 44 00:02:18,438 --> 00:02:19,682 And we're a great band. 45 00:02:19,706 --> 00:02:21,709 You're a great band. 46 00:02:21,775 --> 00:02:23,644 Groups like Pearl Jam 47 00:02:23,711 --> 00:02:26,879 were writing really strong songs. 48 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:30,318 So you can't get away with fluff anymore. 49 00:02:30,384 --> 00:02:32,786 The competition's too fierce. 50 00:02:34,222 --> 00:02:37,490 ♪ I nearly lost you there ♪ 51 00:02:37,557 --> 00:02:40,760 This new sound was saying something different 52 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:44,031 than our collective hard rock brand of music. 53 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:46,334 And it was a whole different culture. 54 00:02:47,735 --> 00:02:50,837 Grunge was an anti-rockstar thing. 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,843 They were more about music connection, 56 00:02:55,908 --> 00:02:58,545 just a little more thoughtful. 57 00:02:58,611 --> 00:03:03,417 So all these like crazy getup outfits, that was like gone. 58 00:03:03,484 --> 00:03:07,054 You're not gonna see Eddie Vedder in buttless chaps. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,456 Thank God. 60 00:03:09,522 --> 00:03:11,057 Grunge, in a lot of the videos, 61 00:03:11,123 --> 00:03:13,126 were exactly what other videos were, 62 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,896 but that sound and the look and the attitude 63 00:03:15,962 --> 00:03:17,698 took it into a whole different direction. 64 00:03:17,764 --> 00:03:20,401 With metal, it was all about, again, 65 00:03:20,467 --> 00:03:23,437 the exuberance, the excitement. 66 00:03:23,503 --> 00:03:27,275 I started watching November Rain and it's like, 67 00:03:27,341 --> 00:03:29,209 a guy jumping through a wedding cake 68 00:03:29,276 --> 00:03:32,211 when it starts to rain. 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,417 That absurdity and the largeness of it, it's too much. 70 00:03:36,484 --> 00:03:38,451 ♪ Take your time ♪ 71 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:40,653 You can see then Nirvana coming up 72 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:43,424 with a dog with the bite collar on. 73 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:45,293 It's the anti-video. 74 00:03:45,359 --> 00:03:47,427 So do they destroy what's going on with the metal? 75 00:03:47,495 --> 00:03:50,563 No, but they just said, "We don't wanna do that." 76 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:53,165 I liked a lot of those bands. A lot. 77 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:54,634 But you know, there was no reason 78 00:03:54,701 --> 00:03:56,670 to throw the rest of us in the trash. 79 00:03:57,471 --> 00:03:59,973 I've never heard of a band getting a bigger buzz 80 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:02,409 quicker than this band, Nirvana. 81 00:04:02,475 --> 00:04:04,512 - Hi, Riki. - First of all, love the suit. 82 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:05,955 - Thanks a lot. - Be very comfortable 83 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:08,080 on planes, I think. 84 00:04:08,147 --> 00:04:12,319 People point to grunge, specifically Nirvana, 85 00:04:12,385 --> 00:04:16,656 as wielding some sort of Game of Thrones sword 86 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:19,860 and cutting the heart out of heavy metal music. 87 00:04:19,927 --> 00:04:22,028 That's ludicrous. 88 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:24,997 If you say that grunge killed metal, 89 00:04:25,064 --> 00:04:26,699 you're a fucking idiot. 90 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,435 If you wanna talk about bands that you say 91 00:04:28,502 --> 00:04:31,038 kill your music scene, and you're thinking, well, 92 00:04:31,103 --> 00:04:33,441 what about the biggest artist, Nirvana? 93 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:36,444 Guess what, people, you're not saying the G word, 94 00:04:36,509 --> 00:04:37,778 and that's Garth. 95 00:04:41,682 --> 00:04:44,884 ♪ I've got friends in low places ♪ 96 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:48,956 In '92, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Red Hot Chili Peppers 97 00:04:49,021 --> 00:04:52,725 sold a combined 9 million albums. 98 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:56,463 Garth Brooks sold 12.6 million. 99 00:04:59,699 --> 00:05:01,634 ♪ Drove to the church ♪ 100 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:03,536 Got to be a point you didn't even care 101 00:05:03,603 --> 00:05:05,738 about being the number one if you could be number two 102 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:08,408 under Garth, because you were never gonna beat Garth. 103 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:11,244 ♪ Life is not tried it is merely survived ♪ 104 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:13,456 And pretty soon, all those people that were going 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,314 to all those rock and roll shows 106 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:17,216 were going to country shows. 107 00:05:21,622 --> 00:05:23,356 And pretty soon you started having these 108 00:05:23,423 --> 00:05:26,059 very independent strong female artists. 109 00:05:26,125 --> 00:05:30,262 ♪ And I'm here to remind you ♪ 110 00:05:30,329 --> 00:05:32,766 So having the Alanis Morissette... 111 00:05:32,831 --> 00:05:34,701 ♪ When you went away ♪ 112 00:05:34,768 --> 00:05:37,237 ♪ Give me one reason to stay here ♪ 113 00:05:37,303 --> 00:05:38,872 Tracy Chapman. 114 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:42,610 ♪ I never said nothing ♪ 115 00:05:42,675 --> 00:05:46,079 - Liz Phair. - ♪ I've been a bad, bad ♪ 116 00:05:46,146 --> 00:05:47,415 ♪ If it makes you happy ♪ 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,581 ♪ Dreams last for... ♪ 118 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:51,783 ♪ Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 119 00:05:51,851 --> 00:05:54,454 ♪ Nothing compares to you ♪ 120 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:57,057 ♪ Zombie, zombie, zombie ♪ 121 00:05:57,124 --> 00:05:59,927 Strong women that had something to say, 122 00:05:59,992 --> 00:06:01,461 and they had their own festivals. 123 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:02,963 We had our rock festivals, 124 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:05,031 they had their Liz Fair festivals and... 125 00:06:05,098 --> 00:06:06,934 - Lilith Fair. - What did I say, Lilla Fair? 126 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,901 - Liz Fair. - Liz Fair? 127 00:06:08,968 --> 00:06:12,105 You meant Lilith Fair. 128 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:13,406 Yeah. 129 00:06:13,473 --> 00:06:16,509 ♪ The water is wide ♪ 130 00:06:18,310 --> 00:06:19,980 Lilith Fair. 131 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:23,081 Those are two totally different things, aren't they? 132 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:25,418 You know what's interesting about genres? 133 00:06:25,485 --> 00:06:28,422 When one shifts and changes, 134 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:31,759 it needs to be filled in by something else. 135 00:06:31,824 --> 00:06:34,661 In the same way that Poison was having 136 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:36,430 Nothing But a Good Time, 137 00:06:36,497 --> 00:06:38,899 Temple of the Dog was going on a Hunger Strike. 138 00:06:38,966 --> 00:06:42,636 OK, what's to say one kills the other? 139 00:06:46,038 --> 00:06:47,608 What killed the Strip? 140 00:06:50,377 --> 00:06:53,680 Hair metal had a hand in taking itself out. 141 00:06:53,747 --> 00:07:00,120 ♪ Whoa, after the rain washes away the tears ♪ 142 00:07:00,187 --> 00:07:03,423 As metal evolved, a lot of bands didn't get it, 143 00:07:03,490 --> 00:07:04,958 and they thought like the image 144 00:07:05,024 --> 00:07:06,759 was the most important thing. 145 00:07:06,826 --> 00:07:10,463 ♪ And that's all right ♪ 146 00:07:10,531 --> 00:07:12,533 ♪ 'Cause that's the way I am ♪ 147 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,302 We were doing this sort of rebellious 148 00:07:15,367 --> 00:07:17,538 but fun kind of music. 149 00:07:17,605 --> 00:07:20,040 There wasn't a lot of darkness or anything to it. 150 00:07:20,106 --> 00:07:22,108 ♪ And I ♪ 151 00:07:23,476 --> 00:07:27,514 A lot of colorful antics going on. 152 00:07:27,581 --> 00:07:30,283 ♪ Don't say goodbye ♪ 153 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:33,853 ♪ Say you're gonna stay forever ♪ 154 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,290 Like M tley Cr e's not necessarily the best band, 155 00:07:37,356 --> 00:07:40,060 the best instrumentalists, but what they were doing 156 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:41,595 early on was authentic. 157 00:07:43,262 --> 00:07:45,398 What diminished over the course 158 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,401 of the decade was that authenticity. 159 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,470 When hair metal bands 160 00:07:50,538 --> 00:07:52,540 were no longer the next big thing, 161 00:07:52,605 --> 00:07:54,240 there was a backlash. 162 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,343 You know, you become a laughingstock. 163 00:07:56,408 --> 00:07:59,211 A lot of those bands who went from playing arenas 164 00:07:59,278 --> 00:08:02,716 and theaters were back in clubs. 165 00:08:02,783 --> 00:08:04,817 Some of them didn't survive at all. 166 00:08:09,822 --> 00:08:14,694 MTV made a left turn. They just stopped playing it. 167 00:08:14,762 --> 00:08:17,396 That was the media force. 168 00:08:17,463 --> 00:08:19,399 I couldn't get a gig, lost my record deal, 169 00:08:19,466 --> 00:08:21,935 lost the publishing, everything was gone. 170 00:08:23,603 --> 00:08:26,505 I was sitting in Rick Krim's office when somebody came in 171 00:08:26,574 --> 00:08:29,009 and said, "Hey, man, you got the new Metallica video?" 172 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:30,442 And it was Nothing Else Matters. 173 00:08:30,509 --> 00:08:33,745 ♪ Nothing else matters ♪ 174 00:08:33,812 --> 00:08:36,917 And I saw Rick's nervous face, usher the video out, 175 00:08:36,984 --> 00:08:38,719 making sure I wouldn't go, 176 00:08:38,786 --> 00:08:40,830 "Hey, man, let me check out the new Metallica video." 177 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:45,424 ♪ Never cared for what they know ♪ 178 00:08:45,491 --> 00:08:48,327 Metallica throwing darts at my poster in the video, 179 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:51,530 I didn't typically think it's cool 180 00:08:51,599 --> 00:08:54,234 to slag off your fellow musician. 181 00:08:56,003 --> 00:08:59,538 Hey, Butt-Head, check it out. I'm going as a wuss. 182 00:09:01,609 --> 00:09:05,011 ♪ She's only 17, whoo, ah ♪ 183 00:09:06,846 --> 00:09:09,048 Our name was toxic. 184 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:11,551 This was very clear before Beavis and Butt-Head 185 00:09:11,619 --> 00:09:13,485 and after Beavis and Butt-Head. 186 00:09:13,552 --> 00:09:15,221 This is cool, huh, guys? 187 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:17,924 Shut up, Stewart. We're trying to watch TV. 188 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:19,726 Yeah, yeah. 189 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:21,370 I mean, I was on the scene of the crime. 190 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:23,897 I had my T-shirt on Stewart's chest. 191 00:09:23,963 --> 00:09:29,101 I am the guy that represents everything that sucks. 192 00:09:29,168 --> 00:09:32,105 I lost all my confidence. 193 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:36,109 It really shook me to the core of my being, you know. 194 00:09:36,176 --> 00:09:38,411 What the hell is your mom's problem, Stewart? 195 00:09:38,477 --> 00:09:40,681 Yeah. Your mom sucks. 196 00:09:45,384 --> 00:09:49,389 We were no longer a viable musical entity. 197 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:53,360 It was horrifying. 198 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:55,828 There was inner turmoil in the band a little bit 199 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:57,563 because we didn't know what to do. 200 00:09:58,698 --> 00:10:01,100 I didn't see it going anywhere. 201 00:10:01,168 --> 00:10:04,604 So we called it quits. 202 00:10:07,606 --> 00:10:11,510 I needed to do other things that I liked doing 203 00:10:11,577 --> 00:10:14,147 other than music. 204 00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:15,649 A lot of soul-searching, 205 00:10:15,716 --> 00:10:18,051 spent a lot of time with my dog, 206 00:10:18,118 --> 00:10:20,153 played a lot of golf. 207 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:21,931 There's not a big audience for that. 208 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:25,024 What do you see for yourself in the next five years? 209 00:10:25,091 --> 00:10:26,826 Well, I don't know. 210 00:10:29,562 --> 00:10:31,398 All of a sudden I felt it had just been ripped 211 00:10:31,463 --> 00:10:33,299 out from underneath me, you know? 212 00:10:33,365 --> 00:10:36,568 And I was devastated because I had nothing else to my life. 213 00:10:36,635 --> 00:10:39,338 Nothing. It was all that mattered to me. 214 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:41,908 So I'm not gonna let that happen again. 215 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,144 So, you know, I don't know. 216 00:10:44,211 --> 00:10:47,246 We'll see. 217 00:10:59,125 --> 00:11:01,961 All right, I see a gem in here. 218 00:11:02,028 --> 00:11:05,999 Our first single, Edge of a Broken Heart. 219 00:11:06,066 --> 00:11:08,600 I wonder if this even plays anymore. 220 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,238 We look serious, don't we? 221 00:11:11,303 --> 00:11:14,006 'Cause it was for a metal magazine and we had to be... 222 00:11:14,073 --> 00:11:15,575 bitchin'. 223 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:20,647 Looked like my closet threw up on me. 224 00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:24,017 "Vixen, the Return of Girl Group Rock." 225 00:11:24,083 --> 00:11:25,484 We brought something back apparently 226 00:11:25,518 --> 00:11:27,153 that I didn't know had gone anywhere. 227 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:29,923 Ooh, "Wild Women's Den." 228 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:31,958 So my mom actually got a lot of these. 229 00:11:32,024 --> 00:11:33,860 She'd go up to the counter with all these 230 00:11:33,927 --> 00:11:36,797 like rock magazines, and she would go, 231 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:40,801 "Oh, my daughter, my daughter's in one of these bands." 232 00:11:40,868 --> 00:11:44,772 You could see my amalgam fillings in my molars. 233 00:11:44,837 --> 00:11:46,215 So I went and I got 'em all replaced 234 00:11:46,239 --> 00:11:48,539 with like tooth-colored fillings. 235 00:11:48,607 --> 00:11:51,311 It says I'm 5'7", 128 pounds. 236 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:54,547 OK. 237 00:11:55,682 --> 00:11:57,216 Jan. 238 00:11:57,283 --> 00:12:00,452 She's one of the nicest people you will ever meet 239 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:02,355 in your entire life. 240 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:04,024 She was reforming the band, 241 00:12:04,091 --> 00:12:06,493 wanted to get all the originals back together. 242 00:12:06,558 --> 00:12:08,695 We were all excited. We were talking on the phone. 243 00:12:08,761 --> 00:12:13,566 We were getting through all of the old issues, 244 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:17,037 just knocking 'em out of the way one at a time. 245 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:18,213 And we finally got to the point 246 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:19,572 where we were ready to do it. 247 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,975 We were gonna make an announcement. 248 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,743 And she calls up and says, 249 00:12:23,811 --> 00:12:27,480 "Well, we're gonna have to delay this for a little bit." 250 00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:30,682 It turned out she had ovarian cancer. 251 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:35,187 To make matters worse, it was stage four ovarian cancer. 252 00:12:35,254 --> 00:12:37,756 A couple weeks later she was gone. 253 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:41,193 So, yeah. 254 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:42,929 But at least we had that. 255 00:12:42,995 --> 00:12:45,664 We had the moments to kind of get through 256 00:12:45,731 --> 00:12:49,870 a lot of old cobwebs that needed to be removed. 257 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:55,475 But yeah, she was something else. Miss her. 258 00:13:00,312 --> 00:13:03,015 They say a manager is blamed for everything 259 00:13:03,082 --> 00:13:05,085 and credited with nothing. 260 00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:08,221 But for me, it was like, not just Guns N' Roses. 261 00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:10,023 ♪ Welcome to the jungle ♪ 262 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:11,892 ♪ Don't need nothin' ♪ 263 00:13:11,958 --> 00:13:13,894 - It was Poison. - ♪ But a good time ♪ 264 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:15,761 ♪ He's the one they call Dr. Feelgood ♪ 265 00:13:15,828 --> 00:13:17,463 And it was Motley Crue. 266 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:20,967 Um... you know. 267 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:27,139 I had these hopes it would be forever with these bands, 268 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:29,475 but it was always sort of the same scenario 269 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:32,946 where I would develop them, and then some corporate 270 00:13:33,013 --> 00:13:37,450 record guy would swoop in and steal the band somehow. 271 00:13:37,517 --> 00:13:41,922 So I decided that I wanted to be an A&R person. 272 00:13:46,493 --> 00:13:48,327 The guys are just wild and crazy guys, 273 00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:51,563 but I'm really proud of 'em, and best of luck. 274 00:13:51,630 --> 00:13:53,066 When they brought me to Geffen, 275 00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:55,001 I was considered a street scout. 276 00:13:55,067 --> 00:13:56,635 I went out every night 277 00:13:56,702 --> 00:13:58,504 and just looked at bands in the clubs. 278 00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:04,644 Geffen was such that I could sign one band a year on my own, 279 00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:06,980 and then if I wanted to sign another band, 280 00:14:07,047 --> 00:14:10,283 I had to go through Tom Zutaut. 281 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:13,320 I was Tom's last priority. 282 00:14:13,385 --> 00:14:17,657 I would sit in his waiting room for hours sometimes, 283 00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:21,128 waiting for him to like take a meeting with me. 284 00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:24,663 It was such a male-dominated culture, 285 00:14:24,730 --> 00:14:28,600 but I kind of tried to be one of the guys. 286 00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:33,539 I think that's why I was able to get as far as I did 287 00:14:33,605 --> 00:14:35,142 in the music business. 288 00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:42,115 Getting the paycheck was great, and being able to sign bands 289 00:14:42,182 --> 00:14:44,317 to Geffen Records, it was great. 290 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,187 But most nights I felt like I was having a heart attack 291 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:51,490 because it was like so insane. 292 00:14:53,525 --> 00:14:55,294 This is West Hollywood! 293 00:14:55,361 --> 00:14:56,672 Where are you guys gonna be tomorrow night? 294 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:58,073 We'll be at Camp Hollywood tomorrow night 295 00:14:58,097 --> 00:14:59,831 - if you wanna show up. - OK, I'm up. 296 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:04,803 Well, I was 15 when I first started partying. 297 00:15:05,605 --> 00:15:07,506 - $5. - Five bucks? Ooh, baby. 298 00:15:08,307 --> 00:15:10,243 I would go to the Rainbow and have a couple 299 00:15:10,309 --> 00:15:14,214 of Long Island iced teas and be out of my mind. 300 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,515 I don't know what they have in that, 301 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:20,320 but it's some strong shit. 302 00:15:20,386 --> 00:15:23,255 I had met a doctor that would write me a prescription 303 00:15:23,322 --> 00:15:25,325 for 30 Quaaludes a month. 304 00:15:26,725 --> 00:15:28,360 It got to the point where hangovers were 305 00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:31,063 lasting three days. 306 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:34,366 It's fun until it's not fun anymore. 307 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:38,837 And once it's not fun anymore, it's never fun again. 308 00:15:38,904 --> 00:15:45,611 I started walking dogs for a living. It got really bad. 309 00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:51,551 The question in my mind was always, is this all there is? 310 00:15:59,192 --> 00:16:01,227 Welcome to the Crue, Corabi! 311 00:16:06,265 --> 00:16:08,134 They put out a press release 312 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:11,703 saying that John Corabi's the new singer for Motley. 313 00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:14,941 For a bit, it was pretty cool. 314 00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:17,043 ♪ He's the one they call Dr. Feelgood ♪ 315 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:18,911 ♪ He's the one that makes you feel all right ♪ 316 00:16:18,977 --> 00:16:24,850 It was fun, it was neurotic, it was hair-raising. 317 00:16:25,717 --> 00:16:30,789 Every adjective you could think of, that was Motley Crue. 318 00:16:30,856 --> 00:16:33,826 ♪ I'm on my way ♪ 319 00:16:33,893 --> 00:16:35,727 ♪ Home sweet home ♪ 320 00:16:35,794 --> 00:16:37,730 Ticket sales were bad, 321 00:16:37,797 --> 00:16:41,600 but everybody was in that grind at that point. 322 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:45,172 The only bands that were really selling tickets 323 00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:48,075 were all the Seattle bands. 324 00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:51,811 We'd started working on the record Motley Crue. 325 00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:54,746 I don't really see it like as Motley 326 00:16:54,813 --> 00:16:57,350 intentionally trying to write a grunge record. 327 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:01,321 We just jammed. 328 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:04,655 It was four snot-nosed shitheads sitting in a room together. 329 00:17:04,722 --> 00:17:08,528 ♪ Everybody wants a piece of the action ♪ 330 00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,029 And it just kind of turned it into the record 331 00:17:11,097 --> 00:17:12,832 that it turned into. 332 00:17:12,897 --> 00:17:18,203 ♪ Oh, life, it's misunderstood them ♪ 333 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:20,307 ♪ So close your eyes and dream ♪ 334 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:24,111 I love the record, I love the music that we wrote together 335 00:17:24,175 --> 00:17:26,313 and I think it was a brilliant record. 336 00:17:34,052 --> 00:17:38,357 ♪ Oh ♪ 337 00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:41,827 ♪ Monkey business, slippin' on the track, monkey business ♪ 338 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,730 That thing that Rachel had mentioned 339 00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:45,632 in my mom's house, 340 00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:48,701 it's gonna be trouble, we certainly saw that happening. 341 00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:50,512 Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach became 342 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:52,672 rock's latest embarrassment this week when a picture 343 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,450 of him wearing a T-shirt with the declaration 344 00:17:54,473 --> 00:17:56,075 "AIDS kills fags dead" 345 00:17:56,143 --> 00:17:58,211 appeared in "Metal Edge" magazine. 346 00:17:58,278 --> 00:18:00,547 We had the horrible T-shirt. 347 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:03,048 The shirt that I was wearing, as you might know, 348 00:18:03,115 --> 00:18:06,085 -says, "AIDS," it's like the- 349 00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:08,154 - Raid logo. - It's the Raid, you know, 350 00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:10,156 Raid, it's pretty harsh. 351 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:15,528 Things started to get a bit tenuous. 352 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:20,366 After touring 17 months, we could not coexist, 353 00:18:20,432 --> 00:18:22,568 mainly with Sebastian, so we ended up 354 00:18:22,634 --> 00:18:24,770 getting two different buses for the band. 355 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:27,740 But I would go back and forth with Sebastian's bus 356 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:31,178 just to try to keep some sort of glue, some sort of bond. 357 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:37,849 Who the fuck did that, man? Who the fuck did that? 358 00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:41,019 Was that you, cock sucker? 359 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:44,089 We had the incident in Springfield, Massachusetts 360 00:18:44,156 --> 00:18:46,459 of Sebastian throwing a bottle back 361 00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:49,296 and hitting a female audience member. 362 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:52,265 You know what I'm gonna do? Just get out of the fucking way! 363 00:19:04,510 --> 00:19:06,378 The worst part about that is someone 364 00:19:06,445 --> 00:19:09,882 got permanently injured because of someone's actions 365 00:19:09,949 --> 00:19:11,683 that were in our band. 366 00:19:13,051 --> 00:19:15,054 The crowds like hated us. 367 00:19:16,222 --> 00:19:17,890 We were getting spit on. 368 00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:20,926 We were getting bottles of piss thrown at us. 369 00:19:20,992 --> 00:19:22,561 It was obvious. 370 00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:24,497 When we got done with that tour, 371 00:19:24,564 --> 00:19:26,398 we all went our separate ways. 372 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,201 We didn't say a word to each other. 373 00:19:31,037 --> 00:19:34,406 I was having massive panic and anxiety attacks. 374 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,278 This black tidal wave kept just building 375 00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:40,779 and building and building. 376 00:19:42,914 --> 00:19:47,920 The stigma is, you're crazy. Put him away. 377 00:19:48,488 --> 00:19:51,657 And that they did. 378 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:04,436 I can't get a deal. Lost my deal. 379 00:20:04,503 --> 00:20:05,805 No one's gonna sign me. 380 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:13,045 I was forced to redefine myself as a musician. 381 00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:18,049 I moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico, bought a house, 382 00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:20,051 put a studio in the house, and thought, 383 00:20:20,118 --> 00:20:23,455 I'm gonna redevelop the way I create music. 384 00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:29,961 Got three-quarters of the way through my first solo album 385 00:20:30,028 --> 00:20:33,299 and then my wife got in a car accident and died. 386 00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:38,170 It was fucking surreal. 387 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,142 There was a lot of praying going on, man. 388 00:20:46,244 --> 00:20:49,147 I did the same thing I always did, I just... 389 00:20:49,214 --> 00:20:50,982 went back to the music. 390 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:02,862 It was at that moment that I said, 391 00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:05,365 there's nothing else here for me to do, 392 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,601 so I'm gonna finally try to do the one thing 393 00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:10,569 I've always wanted to do, 394 00:21:10,636 --> 00:21:13,772 which is write orchestral music. 395 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:24,215 Learn it on their term. 396 00:21:24,282 --> 00:21:26,452 And I'm gonna compose... 397 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,520 classical music. 398 00:21:46,573 --> 00:21:49,375 The Motley fans, they're a strange breed. 399 00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:50,843 You wanna hit all these things? 400 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:52,744 Yeah, if that's OK, I appreciate it. 401 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,981 How's that? 402 00:21:56,048 --> 00:21:58,651 Some of the fans were OK with me joining. 403 00:21:58,718 --> 00:22:00,653 These two? And this? 404 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,365 You don't have to do all that too, if you don't want to. 405 00:22:02,388 --> 00:22:03,598 And then there was other ones that just 406 00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:05,057 weren't gonna have it at all. 407 00:22:05,124 --> 00:22:08,059 I never saw anybody with a sign, 408 00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:11,830 like, " fuck you," or "where's Vince," you know? 409 00:22:11,897 --> 00:22:15,000 Everybody that did come came to have a good time. 410 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,141 It was a really substantial record. 411 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,143 It's hard for a frontman to leave, 412 00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:26,479 and for you to have success with a new frontman. 413 00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,247 It's not done. 414 00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:31,884 And Motley had Vince Neil since, you know, day one. 415 00:22:33,118 --> 00:22:37,056 The studio record prior to mine sold 12 million. 416 00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:41,160 You know, mine didn't even do a million. 417 00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:46,031 We had started working on what became Generation Swine. 418 00:22:46,097 --> 00:22:52,605 As easy, and fun, and creative as the first record was, 419 00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:57,375 the next record was the complete antithesis of that. 420 00:22:57,443 --> 00:22:59,111 None of us were getting along. 421 00:22:59,177 --> 00:23:01,247 There was some rumors 422 00:23:01,313 --> 00:23:03,382 going around that maybe they were talking to Vince, 423 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:05,518 maybe they weren't. 424 00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:09,689 There was definitely some tension with a lot of the fans. 425 00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:16,228 And, the minute they brought Vince back, it was all gone. 426 00:23:17,262 --> 00:23:18,396 And I get it. 427 00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,537 I was devastated 428 00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:27,405 that I wasn't gonna continue on with the band, 429 00:23:27,473 --> 00:23:29,642 but at the same time, I was relieved. 430 00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:33,512 It's those four guys, as it should be. 431 00:23:34,646 --> 00:23:37,383 And I'll always be that little asterisk on the side. 432 00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:58,170 My mom and I. 433 00:23:58,237 --> 00:24:00,006 Is a... 434 00:24:00,071 --> 00:24:02,008 affectionately known as Mama Snake. 435 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:04,276 And she was like the band mom and 436 00:24:04,343 --> 00:24:06,077 we would be sleeping on her floor, 437 00:24:06,144 --> 00:24:07,823 we'd party 'till four o'clock in the morning 438 00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:10,249 at her house, she never said a word. 439 00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:12,585 I'd be like, "Ma, food!" 440 00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:14,653 And she'd get up at 2:30 in the morning 441 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,989 and make us food, it was incredible. 442 00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,857 My dad... 443 00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:21,259 left when I was two. 444 00:24:21,326 --> 00:24:24,430 My brother, Rick, was kind of, like, 445 00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,699 the one who was raising me, if you will. 446 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:29,035 He was like my hero. 447 00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:32,337 He got drafted to Vietnam. 448 00:24:32,403 --> 00:24:35,708 The first line in 18 and Life, 449 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:38,978 "Ricky was a young boy, he had a heart of stone," 450 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:41,614 was written about him. 451 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:50,890 Around the age of 452 00:24:50,957 --> 00:24:52,892 12 years old, 453 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:56,895 I was molested by some boys in my neighborhood. 454 00:24:56,962 --> 00:24:59,898 People I trusted, who were a little older than me. 455 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:03,234 My body 456 00:25:03,301 --> 00:25:05,037 and brain 457 00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:06,305 shut down 458 00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:12,243 to make this as unreal as possible. 459 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:15,714 I viewed it from a third-person standpoint. 460 00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:18,984 So, I saw it happen. 461 00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:20,419 But it didn't happen to me. 462 00:25:24,323 --> 00:25:28,027 The person that was on stage, and is on stage, 463 00:25:28,094 --> 00:25:30,028 is mostly a character that was developed 464 00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:33,833 as a defense mechanism for fear of 465 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,134 what other people are going to think of me. 466 00:25:39,005 --> 00:25:41,907 I ended up in a hospital because 467 00:25:41,973 --> 00:25:43,275 I had had enough. 468 00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:46,945 I still didn't have the one key thing, 469 00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:48,180 was how do you fight it? 470 00:25:50,415 --> 00:25:51,683 I went to see this doctor, 471 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:55,186 and he was the first psychiatrist 472 00:25:55,253 --> 00:25:57,890 that sat down and had a conversation with me. 473 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:04,195 So, I started treatment, and 474 00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:07,098 I started, I was dedicated with my medicine. 475 00:26:07,165 --> 00:26:10,903 I was dedicated with therapy. 476 00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:14,906 And, sure enough, man, slowly, but surely. 477 00:26:14,973 --> 00:26:17,609 And the more it helped, the more I went to therapy, 478 00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:20,747 I started coming back. 479 00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:26,786 I am completely aware, acutely aware, 480 00:26:26,853 --> 00:26:29,087 of how lucky and blessed I am 481 00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:30,757 for all that I've been given. 482 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,763 ♪ Turn on the TV, 'cause I got nowhere to go ♪ 483 00:26:37,829 --> 00:26:39,832 You know, you gotta go out, and... 484 00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:41,634 you've gotta perform, and entertain people. 485 00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:43,635 That's your job. 486 00:26:43,702 --> 00:26:47,573 ♪ A 13-year-old boy robs a store so he can eat ♪ 487 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,317 But that's the thing that means the most. 488 00:26:49,340 --> 00:26:50,843 That's why I'm here. 489 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,244 You know, that's why we're all here. 490 00:26:53,311 --> 00:26:55,152 We're not punching the clock, that's one thing. 491 00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:56,221 Like, we don't mail it in. 492 00:26:57,348 --> 00:26:59,351 I get to go out and, you know, 493 00:26:59,417 --> 00:27:00,551 with my brothers. 494 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,367 I was really upset for a long time. 495 00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:21,440 At some point, you realize you, 496 00:27:21,507 --> 00:27:23,976 you're gonna run outta money. 497 00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:27,145 I wanted a family, I wanted to be a mom. 498 00:27:27,212 --> 00:27:29,548 I wanted some other things. 499 00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:34,119 I decided to go back to school. 500 00:27:34,185 --> 00:27:37,655 I enjoyed using that side of my brain. 501 00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:44,230 You study, you do the work, you take your A, 502 00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:46,231 and you say, "Yeah!" 503 00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:51,971 It's exactly what I hoped it would be. 504 00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:55,307 I go home, I do what I want, spend time with my family. 505 00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:08,519 In 2013, 506 00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:09,855 I met Justin. 507 00:28:11,656 --> 00:28:14,093 And just hit it off. 508 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,864 You know, sparks flying, it was crazy. 509 00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:20,199 We went to Vegas, 510 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,768 and we got married. 511 00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,502 Everybody was like, "What?" 512 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,214 He's this amazing guitarist. 513 00:28:36,281 --> 00:28:37,482 Great writer. 514 00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:40,618 We've put out three albums. 515 00:28:40,685 --> 00:28:42,297 ♪ Don't waste your time on their petty ways ♪ 516 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,190 We're working on album number four. 517 00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:48,059 I can't even tell you 518 00:28:48,126 --> 00:28:50,028 how good it feels 519 00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:53,531 to have the person that you love the most in the world 520 00:28:53,598 --> 00:28:57,669 also be your absolute favorite musical partner in the world. 521 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:10,415 This is... 522 00:29:10,481 --> 00:29:12,651 the building I lived in with Guns N' Roses, 523 00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:14,752 when I managed them. 524 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:17,256 It's this one, it's at the bottom, here. 525 00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:20,826 - Hey. - You wanna come in? 526 00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:22,428 Yeah, let us in. 527 00:29:22,493 --> 00:29:24,563 Looking back on it, I didn't realize 528 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:26,932 how crazy it really was. 529 00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:30,001 Now, it's, like, I have a lawyer, 530 00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:31,636 and she makes me wrap 531 00:29:31,702 --> 00:29:34,240 everything really tightly in paper. 532 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,008 You know what your kryptonite is? 533 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:39,811 Your kryptonite is musicians. 534 00:29:39,878 --> 00:29:42,513 You lived with the whole band in this apartment? 535 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:44,516 - Yeah. - It is very small. 536 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,617 Could you, sorry. 537 00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:48,997 I've, like, put up with so much bullshit in my life 538 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:51,457 that I'm not willing to put up with it anymore. 539 00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:02,567 Everybody hits a bottom to quit. 540 00:30:05,003 --> 00:30:06,771 Getting sober 541 00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:09,208 was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. 542 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:12,678 I cried every day for, like, six months. 543 00:30:12,743 --> 00:30:15,814 It was awful. 544 00:30:15,882 --> 00:30:19,384 By the grace of God, I'm sober and I'm still here. 545 00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:23,521 A lot of my counterparts aren't. 546 00:30:23,588 --> 00:30:26,657 This wall has, like, all the bands' names on it. 547 00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:30,328 That have been in The Rainbow. 548 00:30:30,395 --> 00:30:33,365 In AA, they talk about the reason at the core 549 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:38,369 of your being why you are doing these things. 550 00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:41,240 Which is horrifying, you know? 551 00:30:43,241 --> 00:30:46,244 OK, why do these people treat me like a doormat? 552 00:30:46,311 --> 00:30:48,047 It's like, you know, 553 00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,883 I had to really reinvent myself 554 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:53,684 and find my own self-esteem to like 555 00:30:53,751 --> 00:30:55,787 move forward in this game. 556 00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:02,028 I wanna mention a couple people 557 00:31:02,094 --> 00:31:04,563 who were really responsible for taking this derelict, 558 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:06,765 fucked up, dysfunctional band, 559 00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:09,035 and seeing something in it early on. 560 00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:11,202 It was Vicky Hamilton, who tried to manage us 561 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:12,770 with all her heart. 562 00:31:12,837 --> 00:31:14,373 Slash and Steven thanked me 563 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,750 at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 564 00:31:15,773 --> 00:31:18,277 I wanna thank Vicky Hamilton. 565 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:21,380 That was the first time there had been any kind of 566 00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:23,781 acknowledgement that I had helped them. 567 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,021 I do know what I did. 568 00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:33,558 And, to me, it doesn't matter what other people believe, 569 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,127 or say, or anything like that. 570 00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:38,364 I know what I did. 571 00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:40,031 Slash knows what I did, 572 00:31:40,098 --> 00:31:43,001 because he was there doing it with me, you know? 573 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,580 I guess I was around 50. 574 00:31:55,646 --> 00:31:58,784 And I was having like this midlife crisis. 575 00:31:58,849 --> 00:32:00,618 My dad called me. 576 00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:04,957 And I was kind of taking stock in my life. 577 00:32:05,023 --> 00:32:06,758 I was sitting there talking to him, 578 00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,260 and I was saying things like, you know, 579 00:32:09,327 --> 00:32:12,330 all the shit that I've done, you know, 580 00:32:12,397 --> 00:32:15,500 the Scream, and Motley, and 581 00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:18,237 Ratt, and Union, 582 00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:20,105 and I'm 50 years old now. 583 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,942 Nd I met this girl, but I'm living in her house. 584 00:32:24,009 --> 00:32:25,576 I don't own anything. 585 00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:28,279 Like, I have nothing to show 586 00:32:28,346 --> 00:32:30,848 for all of the work that I've done 587 00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:32,851 my whole life. 588 00:32:32,917 --> 00:32:34,952 But, my dad 589 00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:38,656 stopped me dead in my tracks, and he goes, "Listen." 590 00:32:38,723 --> 00:32:42,461 He said, "When I was a kid, I wanted to be an artist." 591 00:32:42,528 --> 00:32:44,796 And he goes, "I fell in love with your mother." 592 00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:48,634 "We got married and you came along shortly afterwards." 593 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:52,104 "My dream of being an artist, I put it aside." 594 00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:54,140 "I put on a suit and tie, 595 00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:55,941 and I went to work." 596 00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:59,010 He said, "You, on the other hand, 597 00:32:59,077 --> 00:33:01,712 you did everything you said you were gonna do." 598 00:33:01,779 --> 00:33:03,781 "You made a lot of money." 599 00:33:03,848 --> 00:33:05,884 "You took care of your son." 600 00:33:05,951 --> 00:33:08,153 "You took care of your mother." 601 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,056 "You did it all 602 00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:15,294 playing your guitar exactly as you wanted." 603 00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,896 "You're a bigger man than I'll ever be." 604 00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:22,567 He put everything into perspective for me. 605 00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:24,903 But, I think that was the point where 606 00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:27,005 I finally got 607 00:33:27,073 --> 00:33:28,574 the seal of approval. 608 00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:33,511 When he did pass away, 609 00:33:33,578 --> 00:33:36,382 I found his old foot locker from the Army. 610 00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:40,051 And there was my dad's medals on one side, 611 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,988 and the whole rest of the footlocker was like, 612 00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:46,592 there was every fucking magazine that I had ever been in. 613 00:33:46,657 --> 00:33:50,061 Like, pictures circled, cut out. 614 00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:53,030 And it was like, you know what? 615 00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:55,134 I did OK. 616 00:33:58,769 --> 00:34:00,138 Life is good. 617 00:34:16,987 --> 00:34:20,592 The universe dealt me a hell of a blow 618 00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,494 to put me in the place that I needed to be to 619 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:25,797 achieve, 620 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:29,701 artistically, what I was capable of. 621 00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:32,304 I never thought it was in my reach to 622 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,340 have an orchestra play my music. 623 00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:36,108 I just wanted to do it, because, 624 00:34:36,175 --> 00:34:38,344 you know, I wanted to know the language. 625 00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,146 Studied for a long, long time, man, 626 00:34:40,211 --> 00:34:42,847 before I wrote anything good. 627 00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,550 Finally, I wrote this ballet called Ghosts, 628 00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:49,987 and I sent it to Chris Wheeldon, a world-renowned choreographer. 629 00:34:50,054 --> 00:34:51,722 And Chris called me back and said, 630 00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:54,626 "I want to use it for San Francisco Ballet." 631 00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:56,327 Conversations with Nijinsky 632 00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:59,465 ended up getting nominated for a Grammy in 633 00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:01,800 contemporary classical composition. 634 00:35:08,739 --> 00:35:11,909 I've just done it for the love of it, man. 635 00:35:39,505 --> 00:35:42,007 There's very few classical composers you'll hear 636 00:35:42,072 --> 00:35:43,842 that can really make the orchestra rock 637 00:35:43,909 --> 00:35:45,177 like a rock band. 638 00:35:58,623 --> 00:35:59,891 It's all been very surreal. 639 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,931 To go into the ranks of a whole other genre 640 00:36:05,996 --> 00:36:08,099 and to really be embraced. 641 00:36:20,811 --> 00:36:22,380 The '80s metal genre 642 00:36:22,447 --> 00:36:24,782 was so much about having a good time. 643 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,452 It was about getting laid, 644 00:36:27,518 --> 00:36:30,621 and getting loud, and drunk, 645 00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:34,092 and not worrying about the pressures of society so much. 646 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,427 Just, kind of letting it go. 647 00:36:36,494 --> 00:36:38,230 Having an escape. 648 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:43,835 In the last like 10 years, the country music scene 649 00:36:43,902 --> 00:36:46,972 has adopted that whole zeitgeist. 650 00:36:51,643 --> 00:36:54,579 Have you people been to a country concert lately? 651 00:36:54,646 --> 00:36:58,349 Country is now the '80s, '90s rock and roll. 652 00:36:58,416 --> 00:37:00,251 ♪ Baby you're a song ♪ 653 00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:02,820 ♪ You make me wanna roll my windows down ♪ 654 00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,956 ♪ And cruise ♪ 655 00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:07,034 ♪ When this country cutie with a rock and roll booty ♪ 656 00:37:07,057 --> 00:37:09,327 ♪ Came struttin' in through the door ♪ 657 00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:11,697 Now they're singing about meeting the girls, 658 00:37:11,762 --> 00:37:13,998 and partying with your friends. 659 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,668 ♪ You can find me in the back of a jacked-up tailgate ♪ 660 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,536 You know, "We're gonna pull in the river 661 00:37:18,603 --> 00:37:20,672 and drink on my, drink in my truck." 662 00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,541 ♪ And I'll find peace ♪ 663 00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:24,251 ♪ At the bottom of a real tall cold drink ♪ 664 00:37:24,275 --> 00:37:27,713 "With a drink in my hand, and she was so fine." 665 00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,153 The songs that will live on from the '80s, 666 00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:37,822 in the same way that The Beatles, 667 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,891 and The Stones, and the Zeppelin songs live on. 668 00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,527 But the ones that we remember, 669 00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,697 they define the groups that define the era. 670 00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:51,570 ♪ Yeah, love is all around you ♪ 671 00:37:52,471 --> 00:37:54,572 And you know what? It's not dead. 672 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,543 Because anytime I put on any record 673 00:37:57,608 --> 00:38:00,144 from that music that I wanna listen to, 674 00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:01,813 it still sounds fucking good. 675 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,014 ♪ ...just want you ♪ 676 00:38:04,081 --> 00:38:06,016 Heavy metal music and hard rock music 677 00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:08,487 never, ever died. 678 00:38:08,554 --> 00:38:10,655 From the early Deep Purple records 679 00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:12,157 and Black Sabbath records, 680 00:38:12,222 --> 00:38:15,260 all the way through to today. 681 00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:19,063 Skid Row is still out playing to great audiences. 682 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,032 To this day, we still get people talking about 683 00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:24,101 what that record meant to them. 684 00:38:24,168 --> 00:38:27,438 I'm so filled with gratitude 685 00:38:27,505 --> 00:38:30,775 to be a part of something that affected people 686 00:38:30,842 --> 00:38:32,777 on such a deep level. 687 00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:34,380 It's a pretty special thing. 688 00:38:38,949 --> 00:38:41,686 Metal never dies, it's like a virus. 689 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:44,356 Metal just comes back as a different variant. 690 00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:45,623 ♪ I wanna rock ♪ 691 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:47,025 ♪ Rock ♪ 692 00:38:47,092 --> 00:38:48,760 You're into metal? I'm into metal. 693 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,429 You're into metal? I'm into metal. 694 00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:53,331 We're gonna thrash! 695 00:38:54,865 --> 00:38:58,235 The real metal fans, they're still around. 696 00:38:58,302 --> 00:38:59,371 Metal. 697 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,742 Stop. You're in. 698 00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,844 - Oh, cool. - What's in your wallet? 699 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,581 Oh, this is my jam. 700 00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:11,782 You know, this is back when men were real men, 701 00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:13,818 'cause they weren't afraid to be women. 702 00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:16,086 So, definitely, in the last five years, 703 00:39:16,153 --> 00:39:19,157 I have noticed the resurgence. 704 00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:22,327 Motley Crue has un-retired and is back on the road. 705 00:39:22,393 --> 00:39:26,998 Cut to today, the teachers unions are singing... 706 00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:30,101 ♪ We're not gonna take it ♪ 707 00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:32,804 ♪ No, we ain't gonna take it ♪ 708 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,608 "No, we ain't gonna take it." And, it's just amazing. 709 00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:39,445 I'm always gonna be that guy from Headbanger's Ball. 710 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:42,447 This show is much more important than I even realized. 711 00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:46,652 I'm so proud and blessed to have been part of that. 712 00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:51,088 ♪ Love will find a way ♪ 713 00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:53,925 I wasn't raised in an environment 714 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,661 or with the ethos that 715 00:39:55,726 --> 00:39:58,829 it was a birthright to be successful. 716 00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,666 It's a gift. 717 00:40:00,731 --> 00:40:03,469 It's an absolute gift, and you need to treat it as such. 718 00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:06,538 Whatever good comes your way, 719 00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:08,539 take it as such. 720 00:40:08,606 --> 00:40:10,175 There's gonna be bad times. 721 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,177 You just gotta get through 'em. 722 00:40:12,242 --> 00:40:15,213 Music changes people's lives. 723 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,449 Make the world better through music, 724 00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:20,385 that's kind of my philosophy. 725 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,688 Figure out something to say that's going to save the world. 726 00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,222 You know? 727 00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:26,625 Because we need it. 728 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:32,163 Life is as it should be. I don't regret anything. 729 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:34,865 'Cause everything that I've done 730 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,001 has led me to this point, 731 00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:40,070 right now, talking to you. 732 00:40:40,137 --> 00:40:43,474 And, cut. 733 00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:44,610 And that's a wrap. 734 00:40:47,311 --> 00:40:49,981 Yeah, thank you, guys. 735 00:40:50,047 --> 00:40:52,016 ♪ I know ♪ 736 00:41:03,661 --> 00:41:05,530 Wanna put a little acoustic down? 737 00:41:05,597 --> 00:41:07,297 Sure. 738 00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:27,085 ♪ She wakes up on the wrong side of the bed alone ♪ 739 00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:31,889 ♪ Thinks about the time that's passed her by ♪ 740 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,561 Oh, my God! 741 00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:52,610 This is Diablo, take one. 742 00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:54,278 - My name's Kip. - Oh... 743 00:42:06,657 --> 00:42:09,594 ♪ She's only 48 ♪ 744 00:42:14,164 --> 00:42:16,034 Ah! 745 00:42:20,838 --> 00:42:22,574 Oh! Eww! 746 00:42:22,641 --> 00:42:26,677 Gonna put my parent's video on Instagram. 747 00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:28,489 My wife says, "You don't drink enough water." 748 00:42:28,512 --> 00:42:30,280 I said, "What do you mean?" 749 00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:32,293 "They put water in those coffee machines, don't they?" 750 00:42:32,317 --> 00:42:33,661 I just like my water over coffee beans 751 00:42:33,684 --> 00:42:36,855 before it gets into me. 752 00:42:36,922 --> 00:42:38,523 I picked the wrong role model. 753 00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,626 I wanted to be Keith Richards. 754 00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:43,628 I realize, now, only one guy gets to be Keith Richards, 755 00:42:43,695 --> 00:42:46,197 and that's Keith Richards. 756 00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:48,934 I felt like the bands that I was in 757 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,536 were not managed the way I would manage the band. 758 00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:53,605 And so, that I started managing because 759 00:42:53,672 --> 00:42:55,472 it was kind of do-it-yourself. 760 00:43:12,858 --> 00:43:15,393 ♪ A love that will never be ♪ 57214

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