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Kip interview, take three.
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Common mark.
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What's it feel like to
be a goddamn rockstar?
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Being a rockstar
is fucking amazing.
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It's fucking amazing.
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What you live for is the
moment you walk out on stage,
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and you hear the crowd roaring.
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Thank you very much!
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The energy of all the people
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and the noise they're making.
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They're there to see you.
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There's nothing like
it, man. Nothing like it.
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♪ Easy come, easy go ♪
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It's the highest
high of all highs.
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See you next time, all right!
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I have a deep sadness in me
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because, you know, I
did not get enough of that.
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The music business can
be very hope-shattering
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and faith-shattering.
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But for that moment in time
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where the band that you're
managing is on the rise
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and they're it...
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there's nothing that
quite matches that feeling.
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I pick the bands that really,
like, craft a good song.
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It was September, 1984.
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My friend said, "There's
like this great new band.
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They're fresh in town
from Pennsylvania.
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Do you wanna come to the
showcase and check 'em out?"
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I'm like, "Well,
what's their name?"
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I loved Poison.
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It was so fun.
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So I started courting them
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and ended up
becoming their manager.
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Poison was the hardest
working band in Hollywood.
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They all lived in a two
bedroom apartment.
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They showed me videos
when they were called Paris,
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and they did all these
Moötley Cruüe covers.
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But I was like, never
show this to anyone.
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They never had a plan B,
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and so they knew they
had to succeed at this.
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And I worked out a
deal with the Troubadour
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for Poison to play there
every month, once a month,
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and that the Troubadour
would pay Poison's rent
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and phone bill.
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We had a meeting with Wes
Hein who ran Enigma Records.
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He offered them like
$25,000 to make a record,
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and they decided
they wanted to do that.
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They just didn't wanna
do that cheap of a record.
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Little did I know, you
know, a few months later...
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♪ You gotta cry tough ♪
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♪ Out on the streets ♪
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♪ To make your dreams happen ♪
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I kinda knew that Poison
would do pretty well.
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Did I think they would
be as big as they were?
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No.
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♪ Down the basement ♪
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♪ Lock the cellar
door, and baby ♪
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♪ Talk dirty to me ♪
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Poison got mostly
women in the early days.
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And that's kind of a
difference, the appeal.
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You know, it has
to do with the music,
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but also clearly the image.
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Their debut album, Look
What the Cat Dragged In
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has just racked up
its first million styles.
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Yeah, it's great.
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The rise of metal really
began in the huge commercial,
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you know, magazine's way
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withLook What the Cat Dragged In
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andSlippery When Wet.
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♪ Shot through the heart,
and you're to blame ♪
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♪ You give love ♪
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Bon Jovi and Poison,
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rock band with good hair,
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rock band with great
image and big hair.
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I would not kick Jon
Bon Jovi out of my bed.
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Never.
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And that was really
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the breaking open of the gate
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of metal becoming commercial.
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Give me a list of the
biggest bands of the era.
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No, I'm not gonna do
it. I won't go on record.
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So...
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Quiet Riot, Great White.
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Twisted Sister.
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Moötley Cruüe.
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Bon Jovi, Poison.
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Warrant.
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I can do better, hold on.
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RATT. LA Guns. Guns N' Roses.
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Autograph.
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Stryper.
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Def Leppard. Def
Leppard were the best.
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Cinderella and White Lion.
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Faster Pussycat. Europe.
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Get that outta your head
for the rest of the day.
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MTV brought energy
into the whole market
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of metal going from pop music
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to then suddenly grabbing
onto metal 'cause they
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could see the energy that
you could see the enthusiasm.
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They were able to market that
and show people the clothing
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the styles, the energy,
the direction, the lifestyle.
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♪ Everybody's crazy ♪
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You went from directing
Michael Bolton...
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to Moötley Cruüe.
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♪ Sweet Little Girl, She's
the high school queen ♪
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Yeah, to go from Michael
Bolton and "Everybody's Crazy",
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even though I'm really proud
of the video and the graphics
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and everything we
did. I just imagine
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what he thinks of
now when he sees that
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and that look and that
genre that he was attacking.
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♪ She's got the
looks that kill ♪
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Moötley did "She Got
the Looks That Kill".
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♪ She's got looks to kill ♪
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I look at "Looks That Kill
and I just start laughing"
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at the overdramatic it's almost
like they're making a silent film.
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It'sNosferatu, you know,
it's like, the girls are...
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are leaning back and screaming.
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There's an absurdity
to the whole concept.
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It was funny but
in a positive sense.
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It's not funny to laugh at,
going, you guys are idiots.
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Funny going, "Yeah,
that's what it's about."
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Guys doing their guitar poses
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or their guitar
player fuck faces.
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The music, the concept,
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the groove is all fun energy.
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♪ Smokin' in the boys' room ♪
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♪ We're smokin'
in the boys' room ♪
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"Smokin' The Boys' Room",
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I said look, you guys
can run over here.
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You bust through this
wall and run over here.
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And Nikki looks at me and goes,
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"Rock stars don't run,
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we're not gonna run somewhere,
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we're not afraid of
anything." Just, no.
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Coming backstage with
Moötley when we're doing
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"Home Sweet Home",
Tommy in fishnet stockings
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and other weird shit and makeup.
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♪ Home sweet home ♪
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The absurdity of their outfits,
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the absurdity of their hair,
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the absurdity of
what they're doing.
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You know, they're not walking
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down the street
wearing that shit.
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MTV would seed your
visibility with a heavy track.
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♪ My gypsy road
can't take me home ♪
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♪ I drive all night
just to see the light ♪
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But they blow you up...
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♪ Don't know what
you've got till it's gone ♪
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With gigantic...
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♪ Heaven isn't too far away ♪
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ridiculous...
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♪ Carry ♪
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wind machine driven ballads...
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♪ Every rose has its thorn ♪
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silly outfits...
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♪ Love bites ♪
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♪ Love bleeds ♪
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♪ Lonely...
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bombastic stupid videos.
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The thing to do is to
do the power ballad.
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And I was like,
we don't have one.
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I'm not a, I don't write
power ballads, you know?
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I never wrote songs for a
label telling me you have to
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write this or write that.
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I just wrote a
song until I liked it.
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♪ Now there's no one home ♪
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♪ In my house of pain ♪
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"House of Pain". You know, I
thought it turned out pretty good,
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especially when
you got Aerosmith
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saying that's
their favorite song.
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And I was like, you rock.
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Really quickly after I
first joined the band,
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we went in and started
recording, was in the basement
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of the Capitol Building.
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The famous Capitol
Records building
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and that was a real
eye opener there.
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I'm gonna go in there
and sing a couple songs,
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it's a big deal.
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It was a very big deal.
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We thought we were
finished recording the album.
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Our label wanted to make
sure that we had radio
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friendly songs,
we needed singles.
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We had met Richard Marx.
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He was like, "Oh, yeah, yeah,
maybe we should work together."
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♪ Wherever you go ♪
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♪ Whatever you do ♪
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The record company had
told him we need a first single
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for Vixen.
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He's super talented
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and he knows people.
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He totally knew how to
get the best out of all of us.
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That's when he came up
with "Edge of a Broken Heart".
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When I went out there to sing
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I had no lyrics yet.
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He walked in the studio
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as I'm standing there.
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"Here are the lyrics."
No pressure there.
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♪ I can't believe I could
have been so blind ♪
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♪ But love is strange ♪
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We were on MTV
when it first came out.
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Hi, we're Vixen.
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You know it, you love it,
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- "Edge of a Broken Heart".
- All right.
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♪ I've been living on the
edge of a broken heart ♪
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♪ I don't wanna fall ♪
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♪ I don't wanna crawl ♪
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♪ I've been living on the
edge of a broken heart ♪
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♪ Don't you wonder why ♪
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♪ I gotta say goodbye ♪
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They sold 150,000 copies
of our album in the first week.
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- I got Janet and Roxy.
- Hi, Ricky.
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- Hi, Roxy. Hi, Janet.
- Hi, Ricky.
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It was all firing
on all cylinders.
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It was a very,
very exciting time.
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We went from playing clubs
for a few hundred people...
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♪ Don't you wonder
why I gotta say goodbye ♪
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♪ I've been living
on the edge... ♪
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to arenas.
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It's hard to put it into
words how good it felt
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to get out in front
of all those people.
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Does anybody out there
wanna raise some hell?
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Let's do it!
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Ooh, I know something.
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There is some essential
stuff that is so rock
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and roll down here that
you definitely want to get.
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This is us jamming
"Little Wing". Ha.
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Yes.
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So this is one of the
first posters we ever did
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from 1988 in front of
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The Cat Club in New York City.
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That moment right before
we got the record deal.
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I'm thinking to myself,
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"We get to play
music for a living."
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Like what a, an amazing gift
to be able to, to experience.
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So that's that poster story.
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You are the "Youth Gone Wild"!
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We had released "Youth
Gone Wild" as the first song.
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♪ We are the youth gone wild ♪
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No one really knew who we were.
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Wayne Isham and Curt
Marvis did our video,
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♪ We are the youth gone wild ♪
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With "Youth Gone Wild",
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I'd met the guys,
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Snake and Scotty, Baz is crazy.
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They're all great guys,
really good performers.
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They're ready to rock
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but never really been
in front of the camera.
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You know, it's overwhelming
to have the machine
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of film surround
you with all this shit.
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We were all tense and
nervous while we were doing it.
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So I went out and bought
a couple bottles of Jack
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and came back and made everybody
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have a couple
hits, and let's do it.
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- We might as well play the "Youth Gone Wild" video.
- Yeah.
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That was a new experience
for the band. How was that?
256
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It was great. It was like, 'cause
like doing a album is like doing a,
257
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a show in a urinal, you
know, 'cause it's all sterile
258
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and it smells and
stuff and it's just not...
259
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You gotta be, gotta get
in good with the janitor.
260
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You'll be all right.
261
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♪ We are the youth gone wild ♪
262
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It was time to release
the next single,
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we were all on board
with the song "18 And Life".
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♪ Ricky was a young boy ♪
265
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We enlisted Wayne
Isham and Curt Marvis...
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to come up with a storyboard
267
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and shoot a video
for "18 And Life".
268
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♪ ...from the edge of town ♪
269
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What they came up with
was absolutely magical.
270
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♪ 18 and life, you got it ♪
271
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♪ 18 and life, you know ♪
272
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♪ Your crime is time and it's ♪
273
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♪ 18 and life to go ♪
274
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I don't think I could
have imagined a better
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representation visually for
a song that I was a part in
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in writing with Rachel.
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Without them coming up
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with that and
creating that visual,
279
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I don't think we would've been
280
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as successful as we were.
281
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And the winner is... Skid Row.
282
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Hey, this is Skid Row.
283
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Stay tuned for the week in rock.
284
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Right here on MTV.
285
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And that was the turning
point for our record.
286
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That's when people in the
audiences really knew us.
287
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You do anything special
on stage in Russia?
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Sing on key.
289
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You're signing
autographs like crazy.
290
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And it's something that I
practiced when I was a kid.
291
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All these things that you had
292
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in your mind about how
it might be, it really is.
293
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Got a record deal, freaking
out, put the record out.
294
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Nothing, nothing happened.
295
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Bo called me and said, well,
we've sold 15,000 albums!
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And I was like, "Oh, my God,
297
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we sold 15,000 albums?"
298
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And he's like, "Yeah,
well, the record companies,
299
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you know, they're
gonna drop us."
300
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So then we were like,
"Well, we gotta make a video
301
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'cause the video
is where it's at."
302
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Four or so people came from the
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label to see if we were
worthy of making it.
304
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These are seasoned guys.
305
00:16:03,740 --> 00:16:07,220
So I have my ballet
tights and our rock regalia.
306
00:16:07,309 --> 00:16:08,789
I just came out of Alice Cooper.
307
00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:10,399
Rev was a rockstar when he came
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out of the womb, and
we blew them away, man.
309
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They're like, "Absolutely, when
are we gonna start?" You know?
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That's awesome!
311
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They gave us the
money to do "Madalaine".
312
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MTV put the video in
the top 10 countdown.
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Everybody we know,
call, call, call, call, call.
314
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You know? So we're all
home calling MTV and...
315
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And number one is Winger.
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It started catching on.
317
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♪ Madalaine... ♪
318
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♪ This is love too
tough to tame ♪
319
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Radio followed and
the song really took off.
320
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As for our second video, 17...
321
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What does "she's a
magic mountain" mean?
322
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So I thought maybe she
was an amusement park.
323
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- She a magic, magic mountain.
- She's at Disneyland?
324
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Just like a big ice cream
mountain with M&MS on it.
325
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And by the time 17 came out,
326
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we were selling
30,000 albums a week.
327
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♪ I'm only 17 ♪
328
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You're in the right
place... Winger!
329
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Bam, it's happening.
330
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♪ She's only 17 ♪
331
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♪ 17 ♪
332
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♪ Daddy says she's too young ♪
333
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♪ But she's old enough for me ♪
334
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And I didn't write the line,
335
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"Daddy say's she's too young
336
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but she's old enough for me."
337
00:17:37,309 --> 00:17:40,579
That's the one line
that I did not write.
338
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That's the line that
really buried me, man.
339
00:17:44,750 --> 00:17:47,970
♪ I'm only 17 ♪
340
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♪ Yeah 17 ♪
341
00:17:49,849 --> 00:17:51,539
♪ I'll show you love ♪
342
00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:53,980
♪ No, you ain't seen
nothing like me ♪
343
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The lyrics are very pop
344
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and totally not politically
correct anymore, but,
345
00:17:57,380 --> 00:17:58,589
but McCartney's still singing,
346
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"She's only 17," so you know,
347
00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:04,339
call him up and you know,
he's the, he's the leader.
348
00:18:04,430 --> 00:18:06,859
Oh, God, Kip, I'm really sorry.
349
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:08,885
Do you wanna take your pants
off? I could put 'em in the oven.
350
00:18:08,910 --> 00:18:10,259
No, it's okay.
351
00:18:10,349 --> 00:18:13,089
It'll evaporate
from my body heat.
352
00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:15,569
He just talked
about his body heat.
353
00:18:15,650 --> 00:18:17,700
Kip, were you born
with that sexy smile?
354
00:18:17,789 --> 00:18:18,829
Give mean this one?
355
00:18:20,569 --> 00:18:23,140
There's nothing we
don't like about Winger.
356
00:18:23,230 --> 00:18:26,970
The fact that I ended up
being a pinup, it's great,
357
00:18:27,059 --> 00:18:29,630
but none of the musicians
take you seriously they think that
358
00:18:29,710 --> 00:18:33,059
since you're a pinup, you
couldn't possibly be a musician.
359
00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:36,069
I got into this as a
musician to begin with.
360
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:38,849
The writing I do with Winger,
all of us have our own niche
361
00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:40,329
when it comes to that.
362
00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:41,589
Like Rod and Rev seem to be
363
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more of a fusion type thing,
364
00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:44,859
and Kips really into classical.
365
00:18:44,940 --> 00:18:46,316
This song that you'll hear now,
366
00:18:46,339 --> 00:18:47,029
it's kind of a big
orchestration.
367
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,599
So I got into it from that point
368
00:18:48,690 --> 00:18:50,299
'cause I got to do my
string arrangement,
369
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:52,170
my horn arrangement,
and all of that.
370
00:18:52,259 --> 00:18:54,430
We are going to rock the house
371
00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:56,960
as The Bullet Boys would say.
372
00:18:58,259 --> 00:19:00,789
Our agent called the
Scorpions and said,
373
00:19:00,869 --> 00:19:02,400
"Take this band on tour."
374
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,180
And they said "Yes."
375
00:19:05,269 --> 00:19:06,839
And then we had a shot.
376
00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,759
The first gig we had was
Minneapolis with the Scorpions.
377
00:19:15,849 --> 00:19:17,759
Reb blows his amp
on the first song.
378
00:19:17,849 --> 00:19:20,109
I don't have my front
man chops together.
379
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,160
I didn't even know what
to say to the audience.
380
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,069
And the Scorpions are like,
381
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,940
"Who are these guys? They
suck. Fire of them immediately."
382
00:19:30,250 --> 00:19:31,640
Our gig was in danger.
383
00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:39,000
So I watched Klaus Meine
front The Scorpions long enough
384
00:19:39,089 --> 00:19:42,829
to steal some of his chops
and get the audience going.
385
00:19:44,049 --> 00:19:47,359
♪ I need to loosen up ♪
386
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,009
♪ I need a little juicin' up ♪
387
00:19:50,099 --> 00:19:52,660
And then, you know, we had a
very successful tour with them.
388
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:54,165
We immediately were
livin' the rock star life.
389
00:19:54,190 --> 00:19:56,150
Tour buses, music,
390
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:58,980
everything that goes along
with it, all the trappings
391
00:19:59,059 --> 00:20:01,670
that go, it was amazing.
392
00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:23,349
I left the band Angora,
393
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:25,829
we met this guy
named John Greenberg.
394
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,880
And I said to him, I think
you're really good man.
395
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,880
I got my buddies, this
band called Racer X
396
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,970
and they're singer as left
and they need a new singer
397
00:20:34,049 --> 00:20:35,556
and their other guitar
player has left to
398
00:20:35,579 --> 00:20:36,579
join this other band.
399
00:20:37,230 --> 00:20:39,059
So they're kind of reforming
400
00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:40,670
but I think you'd
be great with them.
401
00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:44,589
And that was the beginning
of the The Scream.
402
00:20:44,670 --> 00:20:47,809
♪ Waved goodbye
to a friend of mine ♪
403
00:20:47,890 --> 00:20:52,859
♪ Guess it's time as the
sun shines through the door ♪
404
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:57,690
♪ Another night is gone ♪
405
00:20:57,769 --> 00:21:02,730
Which quickly led to a
bunch of demo recordings.
406
00:21:02,819 --> 00:21:06,039
♪ The man in the moon ♪
407
00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:12,309
Our manager decided
to do showcases.
408
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,960
That version of the band
hadn't even done a show.
409
00:21:15,049 --> 00:21:17,750
♪ ...all in all it ain't
a bad change ♪
410
00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:19,009
♪ I like it alone... ♪
411
00:21:19,099 --> 00:21:21,190
We did three showcases
412
00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,490
a day for like five days
413
00:21:23,579 --> 00:21:26,450
for every record label.
414
00:21:26,539 --> 00:21:28,190
We only had like
three or four songs.
415
00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:30,329
So we played 'em what we had.
416
00:21:30,410 --> 00:21:32,200
And at the end of
the thing we had like
417
00:21:32,289 --> 00:21:35,160
three or four record
deals on the table.
418
00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:36,730
The one thing that we learned
419
00:21:36,809 --> 00:21:39,730
from our past bands
was to just be ourselves.
420
00:21:39,819 --> 00:21:40,900
You know, not worry
421
00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:42,109
about radio songs or singles
422
00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:43,079
or anything like that.
423
00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:44,299
Just pretty much come up
424
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:45,779
with an album kind of a thing.
425
00:21:51,829 --> 00:21:53,829
My dad was very structured,
426
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,750
very nuts and bolts,
Roman Catholic.
427
00:21:57,829 --> 00:21:59,789
His thing was, you work hard,
428
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,839
you put your money in the bank
429
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,230
you take care of your family,
you save for a rainy day.
430
00:22:05,319 --> 00:22:08,279
He's never gonna
approve of what I do.
431
00:22:08,369 --> 00:22:09,710
Even when he came to see me
432
00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:11,369
with The Scream, I said,
433
00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:13,410
"Hey, Dad, what did you think?"
434
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:17,329
And he goes, "You really
used the F word a lot."
435
00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:24,430
♪ Man in the moon ♪
436
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:46,190
Vixen! Vixen!
437
00:22:46,269 --> 00:22:48,490
Vixen! Vixen!
438
00:22:49,230 --> 00:22:50,279
Vixen!
439
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,579
Vixen! Vixen!
440
00:22:55,369 --> 00:22:58,980
It was everything that you
would ever dream it would be
441
00:22:59,069 --> 00:23:00,069
and more.
442
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:05,509
We definitely
got a lot of press.
443
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:07,769
We got a lot of magazines,
444
00:23:07,859 --> 00:23:09,859
a lot of features,
a lot of covers.
445
00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:12,470
We're live, so call us!
446
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,299
Power 95 FM. It's Hollywood
here along with Vixen.
447
00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:17,829
Lots of interviews.
Every day on the road,
448
00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:19,650
we were doing some
sort of interview.
449
00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:22,440
And a lot of 'em had pretty
much the same questions.
450
00:23:22,529 --> 00:23:23,960
How do you guys feel
451
00:23:24,049 --> 00:23:26,099
being an all-female rock band
452
00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:30,059
in a male dominated
rock music industry?
453
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:32,099
Power 95.
454
00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:33,776
Yeah, what do you
guys think about
455
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:36,579
the stereotypes that
women, you know,
456
00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:38,460
can't be rock and rollers?
457
00:23:38,539 --> 00:23:39,410
It's not true!
458
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:40,589
Yeah, obviously,
459
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,589
we're not a big fan of that.
460
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,509
What's it like to be a girl?
461
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,819
What's it like to be
a girl with a guitar?
462
00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:53,210
Well, they're great
instrumental players.
463
00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:55,119
They got great
voices and everything,
464
00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:57,869
- but they're also hot.
- Sex sells.
465
00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:59,390
- Yeah.
- That's what it is.
466
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,559
That's the way it goes.
467
00:24:00,650 --> 00:24:01,756
For us, we tried to,
468
00:24:01,779 --> 00:24:03,220
as much as we could,
469
00:24:03,309 --> 00:24:05,349
ignore the fact that
we were female.
470
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,049
♪ I want you to
rock me, roll me ♪
471
00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:11,309
♪ You gotta control me ♪
472
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,009
- ♪ Rock me ♪
- Girl band.
473
00:24:13,099 --> 00:24:14,596
That's what the music
industry chooses to call
474
00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:17,059
an all-woman
rock and roll group.
475
00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:19,799
Belittling, yes,
but surprising, no.
476
00:24:19,890 --> 00:24:21,849
Remember, this is the
industry that uses women
477
00:24:21,930 --> 00:24:24,809
as sex objects in music videos.
478
00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:27,420
♪ She's my cherry pie ♪
479
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,329
♪ Cool drink of water,
such a sweet surprise ♪
480
00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:33,509
In looking at some of
the videos from back then,
481
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:37,859
there was a lot of objectifying
of women and blatant.
482
00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:42,390
It was commonplace
and as girls that sucked.
483
00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:46,829
Girls, Girls, Girls.
Who else would go,
484
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,675
"Now it's like, I'm gonna
go from every strip club
485
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,009
in Hollywood on the
back of our motorcycles."
486
00:24:51,089 --> 00:24:52,546
You know, that shit
doesn't go down now.
487
00:24:52,569 --> 00:24:55,490
♪ Girls, girls, girls ♪
488
00:24:55,579 --> 00:24:59,140
♪ Dancing down
on the Sunset Strip ♪
489
00:24:59,230 --> 00:25:01,450
Excuse me, I'm not
a groupie or anything
490
00:25:01,539 --> 00:25:03,319
and I've never
asked for this before,
491
00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:04,410
- but...
- Mm-hmm.
492
00:25:06,329 --> 00:25:07,589
So what do you want?
493
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,940
Ooh, let me tell
you what I want.
494
00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:16,859
The way that men treated women
495
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,250
in the eighties
was really terrible.
496
00:25:21,380 --> 00:25:25,950
They viewed women
as nurses and secretaries
497
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:29,349
and whores, basically.
498
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,009
Bands survived off of
strippers and prostitutes.
499
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:41,579
For us, it was just
really important
500
00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:43,670
to get the message across.
501
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:45,099
You don't have
to be one of those.
502
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:46,930
You don't have to be in a cage.
503
00:25:47,019 --> 00:25:49,150
You don't have to swing
around the stripper pole.
504
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,109
You don't have to
take your clothes off.
505
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,509
You can be part of it. You
can be part of the music.
506
00:25:55,589 --> 00:25:56,900
♪ Yeah yeah ♪
507
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:59,200
♪ Oh whoa ♪
508
00:26:13,349 --> 00:26:14,789
Thank you.
509
00:26:30,579 --> 00:26:32,605
Okay, let's get real
basic and direct here.
510
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:35,759
What do you think of
sex in music videos today?
511
00:26:35,849 --> 00:26:37,549
Well, I think...
512
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:41,859
♪ classical music plays ♪
513
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:44,690
Auditory pornography,
visual pornography,
514
00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:49,250
the extreme violence, I
don't think it's very healthy.
515
00:26:49,339 --> 00:26:51,430
When you get into the 1980s
516
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:54,480
any sense of subtlety
goes out the window.
517
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:56,586
This is what our kids are
looking at for entertainment?
518
00:26:56,609 --> 00:26:58,390
Yes.
519
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,440
These bands do look
like they were waiting for,
520
00:27:00,529 --> 00:27:03,269
you know, Reagan's
version of Armageddon.
521
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,269
The reaction to it
is totally predictable.
522
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,230
Viewing violence
desensitizes people
523
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:12,150
or increases an appetite for...
524
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:13,710
I guess the difference
525
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,799
is that they actually
took it to Congress.
526
00:27:18,849 --> 00:27:23,200
The conservatives
decided to rate rock records.
527
00:27:23,289 --> 00:27:27,509
This was a crack in
the First Amendment.
528
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:31,339
The call came in to testify
for the Senate hearing.
529
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:34,779
I thought I was being asked
to carry the flag into battle.
530
00:27:34,869 --> 00:27:37,690
"Dee, we want you
to lead the armies,
531
00:27:37,779 --> 00:27:40,480
the rock roll
armies into battle."
532
00:27:40,569 --> 00:27:42,180
Hell fucking yeah.
533
00:27:44,049 --> 00:27:47,440
They really thought they were
gonna make a fool out of me.
534
00:27:47,529 --> 00:27:49,579
You really should have
vetted me a lot better.
535
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,670
Whoa. I don't know how I
walked with balls that big.
536
00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,589
I was in my twenties.
537
00:27:59,670 --> 00:28:03,069
Like, "Yeah, I'm gonna
school you motherfuckers."
538
00:28:05,369 --> 00:28:06,589
My speech...
539
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,589
It always came out
540
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,680
of the back pocket
541
00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:09,769
like a bad kid's homework.
542
00:28:15,339 --> 00:28:18,339
The beauty of literature,
poetry and music
543
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:20,079
is that they leave
room for the audience
544
00:28:20,170 --> 00:28:22,650
to put its own
imagination, experiences,
545
00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:24,609
and dreams into the words.
546
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:27,000
I'm tired of running
into kids on the street
547
00:28:27,089 --> 00:28:29,619
who tell me that they can't
play our records anymore
548
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,940
because of the misinformation
their parents are being fed
549
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:34,230
on TV and in the newspapers.
550
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:36,880
We cannot allow
this to continue.
551
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:40,346
Thank you very much...
552
00:28:40,369 --> 00:28:42,150
As it turned out,
553
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,410
I was the only one
standing out in the battlefield
554
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:45,865
and it wasn't my
flag I had my hand,
555
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:46,890
it was my dick.
556
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:50,809
They had agreed
to a rating system
557
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:52,730
before we entered the room.
558
00:28:52,809 --> 00:28:54,339
What version did you buy?
559
00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:56,299
I bought the one with
the explicit lyrics on it.
560
00:28:57,730 --> 00:29:00,390
Not a day goes by that
somebody does not walk up
561
00:29:00,470 --> 00:29:02,339
to me on the street and
shake my hand and say,
562
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:06,259
"Thank you for your testimony."
563
00:29:06,349 --> 00:29:08,390
It's taught about
in colleges now,
564
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,400
anytime censorship is discussed.
565
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Mr. Snider, what is the
name of your fan club?
566
00:29:15,490 --> 00:29:18,490
It's called the SMF
friends of Twisted Sister.
567
00:29:18,579 --> 00:29:22,490
- And what does SMF stand for?
- It stands for the...
568
00:29:22,579 --> 00:29:26,589
I got to say "sick motherfucker"
in a senate hearing.
569
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,759
Hello, welcome to
the Rip offices, dude.
570
00:29:30,849 --> 00:29:32,549
Right here, in my hometown.
571
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,289
So, what's new?
572
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:36,900
There's a lot of stuff
happening to rock bands.
573
00:29:36,990 --> 00:29:39,210
Members are falling out,
members are coming in.
574
00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:42,079
I've been telling you what's
happening with Moötley Cruüe.
575
00:29:42,170 --> 00:29:45,130
Moötley Cruüe announced last
week that it had parted company
576
00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:46,365
with its lead singer
of Vince Neal,
577
00:29:46,390 --> 00:29:48,559
after eleven years and
six albums together.
578
00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:52,480
As far as Moötley Cruüe
goes, the great bands go on.
579
00:29:52,569 --> 00:29:56,440
They are auditioning new
singers and the Cruüe will live,
580
00:29:56,529 --> 00:29:59,309
trust me.
581
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,269
Our band The Scream
582
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,410
were getting a lot
of great reviews,
583
00:30:03,490 --> 00:30:05,190
a lot of great press.
584
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,279
We were finishing
up this leg of a tour
585
00:30:09,369 --> 00:30:12,849
and this fan gave me a magazine.
586
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:15,289
Nikki Sixx, he was on the cover.
587
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:18,900
Nikki went on this rant
588
00:30:18,990 --> 00:30:22,339
about how great our band was.
589
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:27,339
I called their management
company and thanked Nikki
590
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:30,819
for speaking so
highly of the band.
591
00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:32,349
I hang the phone up,
592
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:36,049
I literally walk towards my door
593
00:30:36,130 --> 00:30:39,309
to grab my guitar and I
start walking out the door
594
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,359
and the phone rings.
595
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,710
So I grab the thing
and I go, "Hello?"
596
00:30:43,789 --> 00:30:46,059
And I hear, "Dude!
597
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:48,930
It's Tommy Lee."
598
00:30:49,019 --> 00:30:51,759
And then in the
background, I can hear Nikki,
599
00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:54,539
"Hey, dude, Nikki Sixx.
600
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:59,109
We love your band. Love
your voice. Vince is out."
601
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,460
They were talking
to some singers.
602
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:06,690
"We'd love for you to
come down and jam with us."
603
00:31:06,769 --> 00:31:09,210
Check this out, dude,
I'm sure they're in here.
604
00:31:12,430 --> 00:31:15,299
I walked into this massive room.
605
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:19,220
It was just like mind boggling.
606
00:31:19,309 --> 00:31:22,880
The band's there, all their
wives are sitting at the table.
607
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400
I was just happy to
meet Heather Locklear.
608
00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:29,490
And all these guys in
suits are against the wall.
609
00:31:29,579 --> 00:31:32,359
When John came into
audition, he, you know
610
00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:33,516
we were looking for a singer.
611
00:31:33,539 --> 00:31:34,890
He came in and like strapped
612
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:36,059
on a guitar, you know
613
00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:36,980
and we were like,
614
00:31:37,059 --> 00:31:38,539
"Whoa, what's going on?"
615
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:39,630
You know?
616
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,240
I didn't know if I was bombing
617
00:31:43,329 --> 00:31:48,210
or if I was kicking ass because
we never finished a song.
618
00:31:49,339 --> 00:31:53,380
All the girls got
up, shook my hand.
619
00:31:53,470 --> 00:31:57,130
All the guys came over
and shook my hand.
620
00:31:58,390 --> 00:32:01,650
And Tommy said, "Hey, dude,
621
00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:04,049
doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure this out.
622
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:05,349
Welcome to the Cruüe."
623
00:32:10,309 --> 00:32:12,529
And they were
like, "Okay, dude."
624
00:32:12,619 --> 00:32:16,230
Every day, all
day. 24/7 Moötley.
625
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:22,150
We got a brand new lead
singer, Mr. John Corabi here.
626
00:32:26,589 --> 00:32:28,289
When you're in a band,
627
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:33,250
you're making 250 bucks
a week, 300 bucks a week.
628
00:32:33,339 --> 00:32:37,299
You've got a family and
one of the biggest bands
629
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:41,690
in the world says we want you.
630
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:44,519
What would you do?
631
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,529
My son had just got
diagnosed with diabetes
632
00:32:50,619 --> 00:32:53,180
and my mom was
diagnosed with cancer
633
00:32:54,619 --> 00:32:56,009
and I was offered
the Moötley gig.
634
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,849
My dad called, he goes,
"How's that new band
635
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:05,670
coming along, the
Moötley Cruües?"
636
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:08,460
And I'm like, "I think
it's really cool, Dad.
637
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:11,589
This could be the band
that breaks for me."
638
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,119
And my dad he was
smoking a cigarette
639
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:17,049
on the other end of the
phone, I could hear him
640
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:18,640
smoking a cigarette. He goes,
641
00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:21,390
"Ship's finally coming in, huh?"
642
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:24,519
I go, "Yep. I
really believe it."
643
00:33:24,609 --> 00:33:28,960
He goes... "Okay, well,
644
00:33:29,049 --> 00:33:30,259
if your ship's coming in,
645
00:33:30,349 --> 00:33:32,309
don't be at the
fucking airport."
646
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,410
We had played two
nights with Guns N' Roses
647
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:45,539
in Wembley Stadium.
648
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
It was everything that you could
649
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,240
possibly wish for and more.
650
00:34:06,170 --> 00:34:08,559
I love when I come out here...
651
00:34:08,650 --> 00:34:10,739
On stage, Sebastian goes,
652
00:34:10,829 --> 00:34:12,650
"You know what?
This is like the best..."
653
00:34:12,739 --> 00:34:16,480
Best summer of our
whole fucking lives, man.
654
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:20,440
I almost could agree with him.
655
00:34:21,269 --> 00:34:22,320
Almost.
656
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:33,539
♪ Through the sleepless nights ♪
657
00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:35,199
♪ To every endless day ♪
658
00:34:35,289 --> 00:34:37,239
Through the number one records
659
00:34:37,329 --> 00:34:39,159
and these sold out tours,
660
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:42,679
at the end of the day, I'm
back staring at a ceiling
661
00:34:42,769 --> 00:34:45,030
in the bunk of our bus,
662
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,119
going, "I don't know if I
wanna wake up tomorrow."
663
00:34:49,340 --> 00:34:52,260
♪ I remember you ♪
664
00:34:55,780 --> 00:35:00,090
It was this underlying feeling
665
00:35:00,179 --> 00:35:05,710
that had been with me since
I was six, seven years old
666
00:35:05,789 --> 00:35:07,139
of despair...
667
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:11,670
and worthlessness
668
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,889
and no self-esteem.
669
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:18,110
That separation of the
guy who's in Skid Row,
670
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,289
the guitar player,
the songwriter, Snake.
671
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,199
And then there's this other kid
672
00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:27,639
who is awash in this depression.
673
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:32,820
Why is this happening to me?
674
00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:48,099
In the beginning,
675
00:35:48,179 --> 00:35:51,670
Poison was very charming
676
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:54,449
and fun to be around.
677
00:35:54,539 --> 00:35:58,460
As time went on,
Bret and I fought.
678
00:35:58,539 --> 00:36:00,760
They wanted money.
679
00:36:00,849 --> 00:36:04,110
I got some rich guys to put
some money into the band
680
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:06,719
but it was never like enough.
681
00:36:06,809 --> 00:36:10,159
There was a concert
at the country club.
682
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:12,210
At the end of the night
we went to like get paid
683
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:13,615
at the box office
and they were like,
684
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,260
"No, Bobby came
and got the money."
685
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,949
We walked back
behind the country club
686
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:21,960
and Brett was back there
687
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:25,269
with his fan club and
they were chanting,
688
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:28,570
"Fuck management.
Fuck management."
689
00:36:28,659 --> 00:36:31,789
And I ended up
selling his contract.
690
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:37,760
I could have probably made
some money if I hung in there
691
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,969
with him, but...
692
00:36:41,849 --> 00:36:43,150
you know, life's too short.
693
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,980
I ended up taking a job at
Silver Lining Entertainment
694
00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:51,989
and I was an agent
for a moment and...
695
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,949
I got a call one day.
696
00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:59,260
The kid said, "You come
highly recommended."
697
00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:00,909
"Okay, well send me a tape,"
698
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,780
"Can't I just, like,
bring you a tape?"
699
00:37:04,869 --> 00:37:07,130
A couple hours later,
700
00:37:07,219 --> 00:37:10,400
Axl Rose and Izzy
Stradlin walk in.
701
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,230
Nothing very rock
starish about them.
702
00:37:18,489 --> 00:37:20,889
They fired up with
"Shadow of Your Love".
703
00:37:20,969 --> 00:37:22,929
♪ And I'm standing ♪
704
00:37:23,019 --> 00:37:26,630
♪ No, I'm not standing in
the shadow of your love ♪
705
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,980
♪ Shadow of your love ♪
706
00:37:30,070 --> 00:37:32,380
There was something
different about Guns N' Roses
707
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:35,030
than the Poisons
and the Warrants
708
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,820
and the glammy bands
that were hitting the scene.
709
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:40,559
It felt dangerous.
710
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:44,820
So I booked them sight
unseen at Music Machine
711
00:37:44,909 --> 00:37:46,780
with Black Sheep.
712
00:37:46,869 --> 00:37:49,909
And at that point in time
Slash was in Black Sheep.
713
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,699
We ran an ad for a heavy
metal punk glam guitarist,
714
00:37:54,789 --> 00:37:57,099
blues influenced...
715
00:37:57,179 --> 00:37:59,840
and Slash showed
up and we said, "Nah."
716
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,010
But he kept popping up
everywhere we were at.
717
00:38:02,099 --> 00:38:06,539
Like this slow mo moment
of like introducing Axl
718
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:08,460
to Slash and they shook hands.
719
00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:12,606
Guns N' Roses didn't really draw
720
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:14,550
very well initially, you know?
721
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:18,860
Like the first few
shows, 20, 30 people.
722
00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:22,559
They didn't have two
nickels to rub together.
723
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:24,690
One day, Slash
calls up and says,
724
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:26,860
"Can we come
stay at your place?"
725
00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:30,739
I had just moved
into this apartment,
726
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:34,869
I didn't even have
a refrigerator yet.
727
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,699
"Well, if I let you
guys come and stay,
728
00:38:36,789 --> 00:38:39,050
I wanna be the
manager of the band.
729
00:38:39,139 --> 00:38:40,659
And he said, "Okay."
730
00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:44,400
So, that was the
way I cut the deal.
731
00:38:50,409 --> 00:38:53,280
It was complete insanity.
732
00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:59,849
Purple black hair
dye all over the walls
733
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:02,989
from D and Slash
dyeing their hair black.
734
00:39:03,070 --> 00:39:05,079
Mound of cigarette butts
735
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,250
like burning at the table.
736
00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:10,949
The Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame tried to get it for me.
737
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,869
I still have it.
738
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,179
Well, I put up with it
for a couple of reasons.
739
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:19,440
A, I was the
manager of the band.
740
00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:23,360
B, I wanted to keep
an eye on them.
741
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,710
Though I was drinking
742
00:39:25,789 --> 00:39:29,099
and partying as
much as the bands.
743
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:31,190
The night of the
Troubadour show,
744
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,019
I had invited like
20 A & R people.
745
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:38,630
I turned around at one point
746
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,159
and I saw all these A & R
people walking out the door.
747
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:45,730
They said, "It's
so loud in there,
748
00:39:45,809 --> 00:39:47,159
I can't stand in there anymore."
749
00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:48,690
So I was like, "Oh man."
750
00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:53,469
I've got tapes in my purse,
so I'm handing out tapes.
751
00:39:55,429 --> 00:39:58,300
And Tom Zutaut was
standing there, he goes,
752
00:39:58,389 --> 00:39:59,389
"Can that guy sing?"
753
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,130
And I was like, "Absolutely.
754
00:40:01,219 --> 00:40:02,570
He's a really good singer."
755
00:40:02,659 --> 00:40:04,139
And he goes, "If
that guy can sing,
756
00:40:04,219 --> 00:40:05,619
I'll sign him."
757
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,489
I really thought,
"This is it." You know?
758
00:40:09,579 --> 00:40:12,230
I'm gonna really get mine.
759
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:14,929
A paycheck sounded good to me
760
00:40:15,019 --> 00:40:19,190
because I somehow always
managed to not get that.
761
00:40:20,889 --> 00:40:23,460
Every label in town
was calling me.
762
00:40:23,550 --> 00:40:27,860
We had, I think there was
seven labels looking at us, right?
763
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:30,900
There was a bidding
war for the band.
764
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:35,250
Asked to like, meet them.
765
00:40:36,389 --> 00:40:38,559
Everybody was
trying to get this band
766
00:40:38,650 --> 00:40:40,650
but somehow I came home one day
767
00:40:40,739 --> 00:40:43,869
and he was in my
living room with Axl.
768
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,090
And then the next thing I
knew, he was signing the band.
769
00:40:47,179 --> 00:40:49,309
So, what we did was
we signed our deal
770
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,010
on our own, you know, we
said this is what we want to do.
771
00:40:52,099 --> 00:40:53,659
We don't care if we...
772
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:55,360
We went down to Geffen Records
773
00:40:55,449 --> 00:40:56,579
and signed the contract.
774
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,630
I took the advance check
775
00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:02,280
and put it on the copy
machine at Geffen
776
00:41:02,369 --> 00:41:06,679
and made that copy that
said Stash instead of Slash.
777
00:41:08,369 --> 00:41:10,030
That was it, you know?
778
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:14,420
I did not see any
of that advance.
779
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:17,730
Axl took me to the Rainbow
and we had dinner one night
780
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:20,599
and he's like, "I don't
know if I can see you
781
00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:22,780
being the manager
for this band."
782
00:41:22,869 --> 00:41:25,349
A few members of
the band thought they
783
00:41:25,429 --> 00:41:27,829
needed a male manager,
784
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,739
but they didn't really take
women seriously as managers
785
00:41:30,829 --> 00:41:34,269
and there weren't a lot of
women managers in the eighties.
786
00:41:38,489 --> 00:41:41,409
I had borrowed $20,000
787
00:41:41,489 --> 00:41:44,239
for gear and equipment
788
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,150
and clothes.
789
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,760
When they didn't pay me,
790
00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:52,030
I sued them.
791
00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:55,119
It was a very ballsy
move on my behalf
792
00:41:55,199 --> 00:42:00,030
but I wasn't gonna be
stuck owing the $20,000
793
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,300
on top of not getting anything
794
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:05,469
for letting them live with
me, booking their shows.
795
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,300
It was heart-wrenching.
796
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:13,440
I'm still recovering
from that, okay?
797
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:15,789
Geffen Records paid half of it
798
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,619
and Guns N'
Roses paid half of it.
799
00:42:19,099 --> 00:42:22,139
I went into therapy.
800
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:25,059
It came to this point where
I just kept saying to myself,
801
00:42:25,150 --> 00:42:29,059
"Why, why, why? Why
did this go down like this?"
802
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:31,670
I was tired of
doing all this work
803
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,460
and not getting anything for it.
804
00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:52,829
- All right.
- Okay, ready?
805
00:42:52,909 --> 00:42:55,050
- Yeah.
- - We got a new single coming out.
806
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:58,139
You don't know it.
You're gonna love it.
807
00:42:58,219 --> 00:43:00,750
Roxy has had it.
808
00:43:00,829 --> 00:43:02,789
- Out!
- I said new video.
809
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,230
We got a new single coming out.
810
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,400
You don't know it.
811
00:43:06,489 --> 00:43:07,619
You're gonna love it.
812
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:08,710
Crying.
813
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,019
Trust us.
814
00:43:10,099 --> 00:43:11,539
Trust me, trust me.
815
00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:13,630
Trust these faces, come on.
816
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,590
We came off a bunch of touring,
817
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,369
so we were super,
super tight as a band.
818
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:23,119
Everybody was just
really ready to roll.
819
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,210
When we went in to
shoot the second video,
820
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,300
the "Crying" video,
821
00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:33,389
I was supposed to wear
this little midriff showing thing.
822
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,909
I was really nervous about that,
823
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,309
so I didn't eat anything
for about four days.
824
00:43:38,389 --> 00:43:43,050
♪ One look and I saw
what I wanted to see ♪
825
00:43:43,139 --> 00:43:45,570
Not only was I wired
from not sleeping
826
00:43:45,659 --> 00:43:48,320
because I was starving myself,
827
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,889
we had to perform way
up on this big high thing.
828
00:43:51,969 --> 00:43:54,320
I could have easily
fallen to my death.
829
00:43:56,449 --> 00:43:58,889
But better to fall to your death
830
00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:01,760
than have a fat stomach
show in the music video.
831
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:09,340
We went on tour in
Europe with Deep Purple,
832
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:10,949
which was amazing.
833
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:13,860
♪ Got an angel
on the left hand ♪
834
00:44:13,949 --> 00:44:16,170
♪ And a devil on the right ♪
835
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:19,039
We would talk to our
manager once in a while
836
00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:21,650
and he started
acting a little weird.
837
00:44:21,739 --> 00:44:23,675
We weren't getting our
questions answered, you know,
838
00:44:23,699 --> 00:44:25,659
"How's it going back there?
839
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:29,309
We're kicking ass out
here. How's it going?"
840
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,230
And we would get kind of
weird answers, "Well you know..."
841
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,630
Vagueness.
842
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:40,239
Eventually, of
course, we went home
843
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,630
and discovered that
the record was dead.
844
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,289
The album was dead in the water.
845
00:44:45,369 --> 00:44:48,030
The music scene had completely
846
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,250
turned over onto its head.
847
00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:52,730
♪ My, my my ♪
848
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:54,340
In the late eighties,
849
00:44:54,429 --> 00:44:55,690
there was such a frenzy
850
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:58,599
to get a piece of
851
00:44:58,690 --> 00:45:00,909
this enormous pie
852
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,440
that the big bands had, had,
had opened up to be sliced.
853
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:06,699
♪ Unskinny bop ♪
854
00:45:06,789 --> 00:45:09,219
♪ Just blows me away ♪
855
00:45:09,309 --> 00:45:12,139
You get this fallout
of all these groups
856
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:15,579
that are just trying
to ride the wave.
857
00:45:15,659 --> 00:45:18,320
'Cause it was a tsunami.
858
00:45:18,409 --> 00:45:20,150
It was...
859
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:24,670
♪ I'm praying on
your soul to keep ♪
860
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,199
Most of these rock
bands of the eighties
861
00:45:28,289 --> 00:45:30,460
had front men, guitar heroes.
862
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:32,460
They were rock stars.
863
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:35,340
When people started moving
to LA after they saw success
864
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:37,510
of early bands, they
came to be rock stars,
865
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:39,469
not to be musicians.
866
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:42,300
♪ One in a million ♪
867
00:45:42,389 --> 00:45:44,559
But then it just
became oversaturated
868
00:45:44,650 --> 00:45:47,300
with every band moving
from every state with no talent.
869
00:45:47,389 --> 00:45:50,570
All they wanted to be was
famous and part of the party.
870
00:45:50,659 --> 00:45:54,219
♪ Girl school ♪
871
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:57,099
♪ 'Cause my baby
broke all the rules ♪
872
00:45:57,179 --> 00:45:59,246
The culture always starts
in the underground, right?
873
00:45:59,269 --> 00:46:01,230
But once you become
the establishment,
874
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,670
you're the establishment.
875
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,760
♪ Can you take me high enough ♪
876
00:46:08,329 --> 00:46:09,889
By the end of the eighties
877
00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:14,239
it was such a bad Xerox
of what had come before it.
878
00:46:14,329 --> 00:46:15,679
People were just done with it.
879
00:46:15,769 --> 00:46:17,900
♪ You've got to fly ♪
880
00:46:17,989 --> 00:46:20,769
All of a sudden,
all of these bands...
881
00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:27,610
Were pretty much
in the garbage can.
882
00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:30,829
Yuck.
883
00:46:30,909 --> 00:46:31,909
♪ More than words ♪
884
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,869
The scene was dying.
885
00:46:37,309 --> 00:46:39,530
There was just
nothing new coming out.
886
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,880
There were so many glam bands.
887
00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:47,840
Every record label had
two or three of them.
888
00:46:47,929 --> 00:46:51,590
One after the other, a
little glammier than the next.
889
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:56,239
♪ I'll never look
into your blue eyes ♪
890
00:46:56,329 --> 00:46:59,590
There needed to be
something different.
891
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,396
- Are we ready for that story?
- Oh, yes.
892
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,860
Okay.
893
00:47:07,429 --> 00:47:10,429
Something new and a reaction
894
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,739
to the over the topness of
hair metal had to come in.
895
00:47:14,829 --> 00:47:16,195
And then there started hearing
896
00:47:16,219 --> 00:47:19,139
that there's a lot
going on in Seattle.
897
00:47:19,219 --> 00:47:22,139
The song is called
"Smells Like Teen Spirit".
898
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,230
When Nirvana came out,
it was over, totally over.
899
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,710
Everything changed.
900
00:47:31,889 --> 00:47:35,539
It wasn't like this gradual
changing of the tides.
901
00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:38,889
It was kind of like,
bam, you're done.
902
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:46,639
♪ Rock music plays ♪
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