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( alarm blaring )
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( alarm continues )
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Hey, Pete,
I think I got something.
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You better call it in.
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Agent Eppes?
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Yeah.
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David Sinclair.
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- How you doing?
- John Reacher.
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I'm with the Bureau's
Security Division.
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Victim was a computer science
researcher for a private think tank.
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High-level
National Security clearance.
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DON:
Who's that?
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This is
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Robert Oliver.
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He's the CEO
of The Lorman Group.
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How are you?
Don Eppes, FBI.
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Hi.
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The Lorman Group
is the think tank?
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That's right.
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They have a number of contracts
with us
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for classified
government projects.
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So, the victim was one
of your employees?
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Yes. Uh, Dr. Hoke was one
of our senior researchers.
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- I'll check on the body.
- DON: All right.
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Any reason to think
the murder had anything to do
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with the work
he was doing for you?
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It's possible.
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Those Bureau Techs?
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No, they're with my company.
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What are you doing?
They're civilians.
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They have security clearance.
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DON: Gentlemen, back away from
that computer.
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REACHER: Agent Eppes, can I talk
to you for a minute?
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I have an obligation to secure
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the contents of
Dr. Hoke's computer.
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Well, I got an obligation
to investigate a murder,
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and whatever
these guys are doing,
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they're contaminating
my crime scene.
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Your crime scene?
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That's right. Unless
there's something I don't know,
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my homicide investigation's gonna take
priority over your security concerns.
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Don.
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We've got multiple stab wounds.
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The Coroner's Investigator says
he's been dead for almost two days.
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What was that about?
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He was going to let those guys
take data off that computer.
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Well, I think
somebody beat them to it.
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According to what I heard,
the files were already erased.
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All right, we're gonna start
with that.
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Nobody touches it.
All right.
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Let's get our people
on it immediately.
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All right. Adam, Carter.
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( echoing ):
We all use math every day...
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to predict weather...
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to tell time...
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to handle money.
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Math is more than formulas and
equations.
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It's logic.
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It's rationality.
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It's using your mind to solve
the biggest mysteries we know.
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WOMAN:
Okay, well, the first thing is,
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whoever wiped the information
off of this hard drive
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didn't make a copy of it.
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You sure about that?
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Absolutely.
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Hoke had an event log
on his computer.
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Recorded the wipe,
but no duplication.
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And whoever did do the wipe
knew exactly what they were doing.
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This code's been flipped
hundreds of thousands of times.
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Wait. Define flipped.
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A computer's language boils down
to binary code.
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Every bit of information
is a specific sequence
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of zeroes and ones,
like coins, all heads or tails.
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When you wipe the data,
you don't really erase it.
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You just start flipping
the coins back and forth.
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That destroys the code and renders
the information pretty much unintelligible.
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Now, mind you,
we're talking about binary code,
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which is millions upon millions
of zeroes and ones.
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In order to recreate the data,
I need to reconstruct
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the original sequence
of the code.
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To flip it back to the way
it was originally.
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- Try to.
- But as you said,
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you're talking about millions
and millions of numbers.
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CHARLIE: Now the program that
was used
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to flip Hoke's code
left a pattern behind.
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If I can find it,
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I can reverse engineer
the program
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and reconstruct
the original sequence.
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Give it a shot. Let me know
if you find anything.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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Jonas Hoke was
an applied physicist.
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Lived alone, no kids,
and from everything I've heard so far,
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totally devoted to his work.
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He was in the middle
of a divorce.
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Wife left him a few months ago.
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Oh, yeah? Any history there?
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No police reports, no 911 calls.
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Neighbors say he was a quiet,
friendly guy.
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Yeah, who somehow wound up
being butchered in his own house.
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House ransacked.
You've got multiple stab wounds.
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Alarm tripped.
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Not really the M.O.
of a professional killer.
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Why is the alarm tripped on
the night the body's discovered,
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as opposed to two days earlier,
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when the guy's
actually murdered?
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There's no evidence
the body was ever moved.
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Yeah, the neighbors don't report
seeing anyone else in the area.
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Still, the house being
ransacked suggests
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somebody was searching
for something.
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Well, whoever wiped that file
knew what to look for, that's for sure.
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You think they trashed the house
on a ruse?
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Make it look like an amateur?
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Why don't you go check out
the wife?
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I'm going to talk to Reacher
about the Lorman connection.
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DAVID: Mrs. Hoke, I understand
there was a dispute
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over the money involved
in the separation.
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I guess we both valued our
time together a little differently.
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Maybe it was because
he was angry I left.
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I don't know,
but Jonas felt it appropriate
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that I leave the marriage
with what I came to it with.
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I wanted to ask him for the 12
years back, but I didn't know how.
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When was the last time
you spoke to your husband?
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A few weeks ago.
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He was late
with a separation check.
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He'd do that -- forget.
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Sometimes I wondered
if it was intentional.
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Mrs. Hoke, I have to ask you,
where were you on the 14th?
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Right, I understand.
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As it happens, I was at home.
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Any witnesses
who can verify that?
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Lucas Grodin.
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He is a friend.
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I don't expect you
to understand.
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I'm not judging you, Mrs. Hoke.
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I'm just trying
to take your statement.
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So, your tech's sure
whoever it was
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who wiped Hoke's files
from the hard drive --
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- they didn't make a copy?
- That's right.
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Apparently, it was erased,
but not duplicated.
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My bosses will be
happy to hear that.
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You know, you guys...
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You ought to remind your bosses
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that a man was murdered
over this, you know?
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I didn't mean it
the way it sounded.
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Look, what exactly did Hoke do
for The Lorman Group?
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The company had a contract
with the Defense Department
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for a new computer system,
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one that could better interpret
global satellite imaging.
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So, so new that someone
would kill over it?
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It's pretty sensitive stuff,
but a motive for murder?
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I don't know.
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Hey. So Hoke was working on a
DOD contract
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for a computer program
that interprets satellite images.
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Remote Sensing.
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It's a process that scans electromagnetic
signatures from the earth's surface.
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It was used to detect
prehistoric Incan paths
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to sacred burial sites.
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Hoke was probably developing it
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to read roadside bombs
or ruts from tanks.
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Why didn't you tell
me you found this?
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Because that data wasn't the
focus of the hard drive wipe.
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All right. What was?
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Say I want to hide
what I've written.
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Have I hidden it?
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CHARLIE:
Exactly.
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The impression runs deeper
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than the one sheet
I've written it on.
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Now, if I really wanted
to conceal it, I would do this.
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Hoke's remote sensing work was erased
with the equivalent of a magic marker,
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but this section here was
scribbled out with a data scrubber --
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the equivalent of a pencil.
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On the surface, it renders the
computer code meaningless,
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but here there are magnetic
shadows underneath,
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pieces of data left behind
that I was able to find.
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All right, tell me.
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Numbers.
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Specifically, like,
baseball statistics.
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Baseball statistics?
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Batting averages,
on-base percentages.
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I mean, as far as I can tell,
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Hoke was developing a pretty
sophisticated application of sabermetrics,
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which places numerical values
on specific skills,
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like home runs, hits, walks.
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A lot of teams use sabermetrics
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to identify the best way
to allocate their resources.
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Yeah. What was that book
about the...?
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It was the Oakland A's GM.
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- Money Ball.
- Yeah, Money Ball.
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Right. Only Hoke was taking
his formulas to a whole new level,
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attempting to predict player
performance based on statistical curves.
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All right, so, why
erase baseball stats?
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And why kill over it?
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I have no idea. Hmm.
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But I might be able to use a predictive
equation to rebuild the missing data,
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like detecting the
original lines here,
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and guessing at what
letters they could make.
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Right. Well, I mean, we got to
know what they were trying to hide.
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OLIVER: Obviously, it was quite
a shock to hear about Jonas.
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To see him like that.
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I'm sure.
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I'm sorry for your loss.
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Yeah. We'd worked
together for quite a while.
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Well, I'm gonna need to get a consultant
in to access Dr. Hoke's computer.
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Well, I don't see a problem.
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So, this is Dr. Hoke's office.
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This is Scott Reynolds.
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He's Dr. Hoke's
research assistant.
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Has anything else been touched
in this office?
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Uh, no. Uh,
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Agent Reacher told us
to leave everything in place.
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What are you doing
on this computer?
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Just checking e-mails,
general housekeeping.
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Well, I'd appreciate it if you did that
someplace else for the time being.
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Okay.
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You worked with Dr. Hoke
on a daily basis?
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Yeah.
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You remember
what you were doing on the 14th?
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Uh, it was a Tuesday?
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Um, he came in that Monday,
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and then I didn't hear
from him again
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till Mr. Oliver called me
and told me what happened.
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Well, he was missing for two days.
Wasn't that a little unusual?
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No, he would stay home
from the office
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three, four days at a time.
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Scott's right. Jonas
could get lost in his work.
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DON: Was Dr. Hoke a fan of baseball,
by any chance?
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- Baseball?
- Yeah.
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Oh, I'm not sure.
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Uh, he never went to any games or
anything, if that's what you mean.
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Why do you ask?
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It's just a little survey
I'm doing.
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You gentlemen are going to have
to leave this office.
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Well, apparently, Hoke
wasn't that into baseball.
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I mean, there's
no autographed balls,
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no sports memorabilia
whatsoever.
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So, whatever his interest,
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as far as I could tell,
it wasn't personal.
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Maybe he was interested
in sabermetrics as a hobby?
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Well, it doesn't seem like that
should get you stabbed to death.
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How are you doing
on recreating his data?
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I've been running
the corrupted files
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through a series of algorithms
on my computer.
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All right, well, as soon
as you find anything,
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let me know, 'cause I want
to get you out here
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and look
at his computer, all right?
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All right, well, I'm actually
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on my way to give
a lecture right now,
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but sure, afterwards,
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any way I can help.
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All right, good,
thanks, Charlie.
252
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Now, did I just hear you
253
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say the word "sabermetrics"?
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Familiar with it?
255
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The "Money Ball" craze?
256
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Oh, yes, I'm familiar with it.
257
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I take it you don't approve.
258
00:11:05,356 --> 00:11:08,151
Well, the notion
that human achievement
259
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on a baseball diamond
can be predicted
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through the application
of statistical analysis
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is, at it's very core,
highly problematic.
262
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Even if the skill can be
statistically measured?
263
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Yes, because, Charles,
264
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the human spirit
is immeasurable.
265
00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:27,045
You know, our brains aren't
just these machines.
266
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There's a lot of
either/or going on here.
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Yes, statistical probability
is a wonderful tool,
268
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but applied
to human performance,
269
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it's only an extrapolation
of the past.
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Still there are a number
of baseball teams
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that use sabermetrics
to determine who to pay.
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As a Dodger fan, I'm all too
painfully aware of that fact,
273
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but I'm also aware that
in a statistical model,
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the Red Sox never
beat the Yankees.
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Ah, there are exceptions
to every rule.
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Yes, and aren't they glorious?
( chuckles )
277
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Now, why is Don even
asking you about
278
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statistical baseball analysis?
279
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( sighs ): A researcher was
found murdered.
280
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Wait, are we talking
about Jonas Hoke?
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You knew him?
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He... yeah.
283
00:12:06,751 --> 00:12:08,294
We were doctoral
students together.
284
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Well, not together,
but at the same time.
285
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He just -- I don't know.
286
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There's that old saying:
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"Applied physicists
are from Venus,
288
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"theoretical physicists...
289
00:12:17,595 --> 00:12:19,514
...wonder why it rotates
in the opposite direction."
290
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There you go.
291
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No, our department was
informed of his passing
292
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and the planned
memorial service.
293
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I'm sorry.
294
00:12:26,521 --> 00:12:29,899
Well, the book
doesn't always work, Charles,
295
00:12:30,024 --> 00:12:33,361
and numbers can't always
account for the way life turns out.
296
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Well, I mean, just
ask Jonas Hoke.
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DON:
What do you say, David?
298
00:12:42,704 --> 00:12:44,664
Hey. Anything
at The Lorman Group?
299
00:12:44,789 --> 00:12:46,124
Well, Hoke didn't
show up for work
300
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for two days,
and he wasn't missed.
301
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That's either very sad,
or that's a really good job.
302
00:12:50,753 --> 00:12:52,046
Yeah? Seemed odd to me.
303
00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:55,216
Well, guess who had
a $2 million insurance policy.
304
00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:58,303
What? The good Dr. Hoke?
305
00:12:58,469 --> 00:13:00,346
Mm-hmm. And guess who
the beneficiary is?
306
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Not the wife.
307
00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:04,142
Yep. Turns out the divorce
was nastier than we thought.
308
00:13:04,309 --> 00:13:06,686
Major issue being
Hoke's potential earnings.
309
00:13:06,811 --> 00:13:08,730
Apparently, he didn't
want to give her any.
310
00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:11,733
So she takes him out and
gets the money she's entitled to?
311
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Then she's free
312
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and single again.
313
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He's her alibi the night of the
murder. Arrested in '84.
314
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Assault and battery.
315
00:13:21,401 --> 00:13:24,613
I guess she figured Hoke
was worth more dead than alive.
316
00:13:30,084 --> 00:13:31,461
MAN:
I was twenty years old.
317
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I got in a fight
with a guy at a bar.
318
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Two years probation, believe me,
I learned my lesson.
319
00:13:36,257 --> 00:13:37,342
Which was what --
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don't leave any witnesses
behind the next time?
321
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You have some imagination.
322
00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:42,597
We do.
323
00:13:42,722 --> 00:13:44,057
How about you imagining this --
324
00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:46,059
Gail Hoke's in the middle
of a bad divorce, right?
325
00:13:46,184 --> 00:13:47,852
I mean, it really
isn't going well.
326
00:13:47,977 --> 00:13:49,562
On the other hand,
a dead husband pays out
327
00:13:49,687 --> 00:13:51,981
on a $2 million
insurance policy.
328
00:13:52,232 --> 00:13:54,817
Wonder how many of these
you'd have to work to make up that.
329
00:13:54,984 --> 00:13:57,028
And, killing Jonas helps me how?
330
00:13:57,195 --> 00:14:00,198
Because maybe Gail will give me
some of her insurance settlement?
331
00:14:00,365 --> 00:14:03,243
Well, with him out of the way,
she's free to marry again.
332
00:14:04,702 --> 00:14:06,120
Gail and I like each other.
333
00:14:06,287 --> 00:14:08,039
Maybe it's even more than that,
334
00:14:08,164 --> 00:14:10,708
but neither one of us
has ever talked about marriage.
335
00:14:10,833 --> 00:14:12,043
All right.
336
00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:13,586
We'll be in touch.
337
00:14:15,546 --> 00:14:17,423
Gail Hoke wasn't
over her ex-husband.
338
00:14:17,548 --> 00:14:19,050
I got that much
from both of them.
339
00:14:19,175 --> 00:14:21,302
Well, doesn't mean
she didn't kill him.
340
00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:24,681
Yeah, but I got the feeling she wasn't
willing to admit the marriage was over.
341
00:14:24,806 --> 00:14:26,724
She was thinking
about going back to him.
342
00:14:26,849 --> 00:14:27,934
How'd you get that?
343
00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:30,603
Kind of reminded me of my sister
Linda when she got divorced.
344
00:14:30,728 --> 00:14:32,522
Moved out, got her own place,
345
00:14:32,647 --> 00:14:34,440
sat around waiting
for her ex to call
346
00:14:34,565 --> 00:14:36,859
instead of getting out
and getting on with her life.
347
00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,695
Did he call?
348
00:14:39,696 --> 00:14:41,698
Yeah, and she went back to him.
349
00:14:42,031 --> 00:14:43,783
I always thought she could've
done better, you know,
350
00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:45,118
just given herself a chance.
351
00:14:45,243 --> 00:14:47,078
- Thanks. Yeah.
- Yeah?
352
00:14:47,370 --> 00:14:48,830
Knucklehead, you know.
353
00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:53,418
Hello. I'm sorry. I have
pretty specific instructions.
354
00:14:53,543 --> 00:14:54,877
No one's supposed
to use this computer.
355
00:14:54,961 --> 00:14:56,337
Oh, I'm sorry.
You must be Scott.
356
00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:57,714
- Yeah.
- I'm Professor Charlie Eppes.
357
00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,071
Oh, I'm the, um,
yeah, I'm the... FBI consultant.
358
00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:01,376
Oh, all right.
359
00:15:01,579 --> 00:15:03,122
Yeah, Mr. Oliver
said you were coming.
360
00:15:03,303 --> 00:15:06,347
I was told that, uh,
none of Dr. Hoke's work
361
00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:08,141
was to be touched
before I got here.
362
00:15:08,266 --> 00:15:09,642
No, all that stuff's mine.
363
00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:11,060
Oh, you're leaving.
364
00:15:11,227 --> 00:15:12,979
Yeah. Well,
365
00:15:13,229 --> 00:15:15,481
they probably would have
offered me another position here,
366
00:15:16,024 --> 00:15:17,859
but Dr. Hoke was kind of,
367
00:15:18,401 --> 00:15:19,652
kind of a mentor to me,
368
00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:21,487
and you work that closely
with someone, it's hard.
369
00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:23,031
Mm. I can imagine.
370
00:15:23,156 --> 00:15:24,824
I work pretty closely
with someone myself.
371
00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:26,868
He always wanted me
to go back to school,
372
00:15:26,993 --> 00:15:28,953
finish my dissertation, so...
373
00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,204
Thinking now I will...
374
00:15:30,371 --> 00:15:32,040
Oh, that's great.
What's your field?
375
00:15:32,206 --> 00:15:35,284
Econometrics, specializing
in economic statistics.
376
00:15:35,374 --> 00:15:36,202
Ooh.
377
00:15:36,259 --> 00:15:37,975
Yeah, that's exactly
what my dad said
378
00:15:38,087 --> 00:15:39,505
when I told him I was gonna
379
00:15:39,630 --> 00:15:41,841
borrow 30 grand
a year to pay for it.
380
00:15:41,966 --> 00:15:43,926
He's like, "You don't make money
by studying it."
381
00:15:44,093 --> 00:15:47,305
Mathematics can be much more
lucrative than most fathers think.
382
00:15:47,513 --> 00:15:50,808
Yeah, but I want to
do something with it.
383
00:15:51,059 --> 00:15:53,353
You know, make a difference
in the world.
384
00:15:53,770 --> 00:15:54,937
That's really admirable.
385
00:15:55,104 --> 00:15:56,981
Well, 'cause people, they assume
386
00:15:57,148 --> 00:15:59,942
that the economy's this
adversarial relationship,
387
00:16:00,109 --> 00:16:02,278
where one person's gain,
by definition,
388
00:16:02,403 --> 00:16:04,447
has to be another person's loss.
389
00:16:04,572 --> 00:16:06,407
But it doesn't
have to be that way.
390
00:16:06,532 --> 00:16:08,576
There can be gains for everyone.
391
00:16:08,701 --> 00:16:10,411
- I'm sure you're right.
- No, I know I am.
392
00:16:10,578 --> 00:16:11,871
It's all there in the numbers...
393
00:16:12,038 --> 00:16:13,790
if anyone would just
bother to look.
394
00:16:13,956 --> 00:16:15,708
Ah, I think I know
just how you feel.
395
00:16:15,833 --> 00:16:17,877
Well, if you need me for anything,
just let me know.
396
00:16:18,002 --> 00:16:19,504
Hey, Scott.
397
00:16:20,129 --> 00:16:21,923
Is there any reason
that Dr. Hoke
398
00:16:22,048 --> 00:16:25,510
would've been working
on, like... baseball formulas?
399
00:16:25,635 --> 00:16:27,804
Yeah, you know,
the other FBI agent
400
00:16:27,929 --> 00:16:29,764
asked me that same thing
about baseball.
401
00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:31,766
I-I told him Dr. Hoke
never mentioned it.
402
00:16:31,933 --> 00:16:33,518
Yeah. Any backup files,
403
00:16:33,643 --> 00:16:36,687
any-any other workstation
that Dr. Hoke might have used?
404
00:16:36,813 --> 00:16:39,524
No. That man was particular
about where he worked.
405
00:16:39,649 --> 00:16:41,818
It was either this computer or
the one at home.
406
00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:45,488
And you weren't aware of any
of his work on sabermetrics?
407
00:16:45,613 --> 00:16:48,449
But then again,
I'm not much of a baseball fan.
408
00:16:51,494 --> 00:16:53,413
(footsteps)
409
00:17:01,671 --> 00:17:02,964
Larry.
410
00:17:03,548 --> 00:17:04,757
Charlie.
411
00:17:05,007 --> 00:17:06,509
What are you doing here?
412
00:17:06,634 --> 00:17:08,010
Well, you mentioned a memorial,
413
00:17:08,136 --> 00:17:09,470
and I knew you'd be here.
414
00:17:09,637 --> 00:17:10,972
Oh, yeah.
415
00:17:13,891 --> 00:17:16,811
It's a rather disheartening
turnout, isn't it?
416
00:17:18,563 --> 00:17:19,814
Are we early?
417
00:17:19,939 --> 00:17:21,774
No, I don't think so.
418
00:17:24,068 --> 00:17:25,736
It's physics.
419
00:17:26,112 --> 00:17:28,656
It's such a demanding field.
420
00:17:29,115 --> 00:17:32,118
Leaves little time or
energy for a social life.
421
00:17:32,243 --> 00:17:36,539
Einstein said that one has
either time for science or family...
422
00:17:36,998 --> 00:17:38,374
but not both.
423
00:17:38,541 --> 00:17:40,042
Well, now, that's
spoken like a man
424
00:17:40,168 --> 00:17:42,086
who can appreciate
our predicament.
425
00:17:43,713 --> 00:17:46,757
CHARLIE: I wonder though... Is
our work the actual cause,
426
00:17:46,924 --> 00:17:48,509
or is it an excuse?
427
00:17:48,676 --> 00:17:51,095
That's a fair
hypothesis, isn't it?
428
00:17:52,054 --> 00:17:56,976
I suppose the real trick is in finding
the solution while it still matters.
429
00:17:59,353 --> 00:18:01,063
ALAN: What do these formulas
tell you?
430
00:18:01,189 --> 00:18:03,441
CHARLIE: The ones I've recovered
indicate that the Dodgers
431
00:18:03,566 --> 00:18:06,110
are not on the right track
to win the pennant next year.
432
00:18:06,444 --> 00:18:08,529
Like you needed math
to figure that one out, huh?
433
00:18:08,654 --> 00:18:10,615
( chuckling ):
No.
434
00:18:10,781 --> 00:18:12,200
( chuckles )
435
00:18:12,366 --> 00:18:15,203
I heard that, uh, Don
was leaning towards the wife.
436
00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:16,662
That's right.
437
00:18:17,205 --> 00:18:19,999
Seems to be the first place
they look nowadays.
438
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:21,542
I don't understand.
439
00:18:21,709 --> 00:18:23,920
I mean, if you hate the person
you're married to that much,
440
00:18:24,045 --> 00:18:25,671
get divorced.
441
00:18:26,672 --> 00:18:29,008
Even the thought of divorce
holds its own special horrors,
442
00:18:29,133 --> 00:18:30,384
let me tell you.
443
00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:32,428
Well, you and Mom
never thought about...
444
00:18:33,054 --> 00:18:34,931
I mean, I was never
witness to any kind of...
445
00:18:35,056 --> 00:18:37,391
That's exactly
the way we wanted it.
446
00:18:39,227 --> 00:18:42,230
Well, it was a long
time ago, we, um...
447
00:18:43,314 --> 00:18:45,399
We had a little rough patch
there for a moment,
448
00:18:45,525 --> 00:18:47,109
but we got through it.
449
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,739
How rough a patch
are we talking about?
450
00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:53,741
It was when you
were 13 years old,
451
00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:55,618
and you went off to Princeton.
452
00:18:55,993 --> 00:18:57,453
Mom came with me.
453
00:18:59,121 --> 00:19:00,831
The separation was...
454
00:19:00,957 --> 00:19:02,792
pretty hard on both of us.
455
00:19:03,709 --> 00:19:06,045
And aside from
the money matters,
456
00:19:07,838 --> 00:19:10,007
there was this
irrational jealousy.
457
00:19:10,716 --> 00:19:13,135
Anyway, even the possibility
of divorce was never discussed,
458
00:19:13,261 --> 00:19:15,721
because we loved
each other too much.
459
00:19:17,306 --> 00:19:19,100
I don't remember any of it.
460
00:19:20,476 --> 00:19:22,019
I don't even remember
461
00:19:22,186 --> 00:19:23,771
a raised voice
between the two of you.
462
00:19:23,938 --> 00:19:25,439
That's because your mother
and I both agreed
463
00:19:25,565 --> 00:19:28,568
that we wouldn't stress you or
Don any more than we had to.
464
00:19:30,695 --> 00:19:33,739
Charlie, that's how parents
argue in front of their children;
465
00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:37,159
they disguise the big things
as little things.
466
00:19:40,663 --> 00:19:42,832
CHARLIE: Big things disguised as
little things.
467
00:19:42,957 --> 00:19:44,834
In World War II,
U.S. submarines
468
00:19:44,959 --> 00:19:46,794
were equipped
with bathythermographs,
469
00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:50,298
which helped them find warm
pockets of water beneath colder ones,
470
00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:52,883
because warm water
bent the sound waves away.
471
00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:55,845
If the submarine hid
in the right place,
472
00:19:55,928 --> 00:19:57,888
the enemy's sonar was useless.
473
00:19:59,432 --> 00:20:01,934
Hoke did the same thing
with his own data.
474
00:20:02,059 --> 00:20:03,477
He hid it in warm water.
475
00:20:03,644 --> 00:20:05,855
He disguised his work
as baseball statistics,
476
00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:07,648
thereby hiding its real meaning.
477
00:20:07,815 --> 00:20:09,066
How'd you figure it out?
478
00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:12,278
CHARLIE: The magnetic shadows that
were left on the hard drive after the wipe.
479
00:20:12,445 --> 00:20:13,904
I ran the extrapolated data
480
00:20:14,071 --> 00:20:15,906
through a series
of simple algorithms.
481
00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:19,327
The end result was that the
baseball statistics fell away,
482
00:20:19,452 --> 00:20:21,454
leaving the pertinent numbers.
483
00:20:21,621 --> 00:20:23,831
I then did a simple
brute force analysis...
484
00:20:23,956 --> 00:20:25,041
Brute force?
485
00:20:25,207 --> 00:20:27,084
I just went on the internet
and Googled the set of numbers.
486
00:20:27,209 --> 00:20:28,878
I sifted through the hits
one by one,
487
00:20:29,045 --> 00:20:30,630
to find the matching
data tables.
488
00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:31,756
( beeps )
489
00:20:31,881 --> 00:20:35,968
Hoke pulled his data off of U.S. Census
Bureau reports over the last ten years.
490
00:20:36,093 --> 00:20:38,262
Other tables
were federal budgets,
491
00:20:38,387 --> 00:20:40,598
grade point averages,
SAT scores.
492
00:20:40,765 --> 00:20:41,849
Grade point averages?
493
00:20:42,016 --> 00:20:45,061
Hoke's work had nothing
to do with baseball at all.
494
00:20:45,227 --> 00:20:47,938
He was attempting to apply
the concept of sabermetrics
495
00:20:48,105 --> 00:20:50,274
to average communities,
not athletes.
496
00:20:50,399 --> 00:20:52,068
You're talking about
real people?
497
00:20:52,234 --> 00:20:54,153
Actuaries do it all the time.
498
00:20:54,278 --> 00:20:56,697
Uh, taking into account
income levels,
499
00:20:56,864 --> 00:20:58,532
access to health insurance.
500
00:20:58,658 --> 00:21:00,910
Only Hoke wasn't measuring
life expectancy;
501
00:21:01,035 --> 00:21:02,828
he was measuring
human potential.
502
00:21:03,412 --> 00:21:04,622
What do you mean?
503
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:06,290
Like predicting success?
504
00:21:06,415 --> 00:21:07,750
Almost from birth.
505
00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:09,335
That's not possible.
506
00:21:09,460 --> 00:21:13,047
Baseball teams use sabermetrics
to determine which players to pay.
507
00:21:13,214 --> 00:21:15,466
He was using
sabermetrics to determine
508
00:21:15,591 --> 00:21:17,885
what people were
worth investing in.
509
00:21:18,052 --> 00:21:19,345
So no one gets left behind,
510
00:21:19,512 --> 00:21:21,263
they just never get started
to begin with.
511
00:21:21,389 --> 00:21:22,682
It applies to schools.
512
00:21:22,848 --> 00:21:24,850
It applies to hospitals,
to libraries.
513
00:21:24,975 --> 00:21:27,103
I mean, companies
fire employees who smoke
514
00:21:27,228 --> 00:21:30,064
because of future statistical
probabilities of cancer.
515
00:21:30,189 --> 00:21:33,567
Uh, they use DNA to deny
employees access to healthcare.
516
00:21:33,693 --> 00:21:36,779
I mean, why not a mathematical
analysis to do the exact same thing?
517
00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:38,739
And you're saying he was
actually close?
518
00:21:38,906 --> 00:21:40,282
Well, from what I can tell,
519
00:21:40,449 --> 00:21:41,992
he hadn't finished
his main equation,
520
00:21:42,076 --> 00:21:44,245
though once he was through,
theoretically,
521
00:21:44,412 --> 00:21:46,288
he'd be able to predict
human performance
522
00:21:46,414 --> 00:21:48,791
based on geographic
and environmental factors,
523
00:21:48,916 --> 00:21:50,292
down to a city block.
524
00:21:50,418 --> 00:21:52,044
So basically,
you are where you live?
525
00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:54,588
A mathematical determination
of who will
526
00:21:54,755 --> 00:21:56,382
or won't be a winner.
527
00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:08,602
REYNOLDS: I've never
seen any of this stuff before.
528
00:22:08,853 --> 00:22:10,312
Well, it's an incredible
amount of data.
529
00:22:10,438 --> 00:22:12,398
So you're saying Dr. Hoke
never asked for your help?
530
00:22:12,523 --> 00:22:14,358
With this?
Absolutely not.
531
00:22:14,692 --> 00:22:15,818
I mean, you know how it is.
532
00:22:15,985 --> 00:22:17,194
He works alone.
533
00:22:17,361 --> 00:22:19,989
I'd get glimpses, but it's not
like he includes me or anything.
534
00:22:20,156 --> 00:22:21,657
Yeah, but what about research,
Scott?
535
00:22:21,782 --> 00:22:23,909
I mean, you never prepared charts,
or downloaded statistics?
536
00:22:24,034 --> 00:22:25,411
That seem a little weird,
537
00:22:25,536 --> 00:22:27,288
considering what you thought
he might be working on?
538
00:22:27,416 --> 00:22:30,916
Um, there's some market research
studies that he asked me to get.
539
00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:32,084
Yeah?
540
00:22:32,209 --> 00:22:33,377
But I don't know.
541
00:22:33,753 --> 00:22:35,087
Market research?
542
00:22:35,212 --> 00:22:37,256
Yeah, stuff
the Lorman Group was compiling.
543
00:22:37,381 --> 00:22:38,716
What kind of stuff?
544
00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:41,510
Household incomes,
housing costs,
545
00:22:41,635 --> 00:22:43,179
buying tendencies.
546
00:22:43,304 --> 00:22:45,473
This was all stuff
the Lorman Group was working on?
547
00:22:45,598 --> 00:22:47,683
Yeah. Um, Dr. Hoke would make
the request,
548
00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:50,436
and then Mr. Oliver would
have me e-mail it to his home.
549
00:22:50,561 --> 00:22:52,062
And when was this?
550
00:22:52,688 --> 00:22:54,315
Up until a few weeks ago.
551
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,858
What happened a few weeks ago?
552
00:22:55,983 --> 00:22:57,693
For the last request,
553
00:22:57,818 --> 00:22:59,695
Mr. Oliver called
me into his office,
554
00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:02,573
and he said the company
was not going to allow Dr. Hoke
555
00:23:02,698 --> 00:23:04,575
access to the
information anymore.
556
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:05,951
Did he tell you why?
557
00:23:06,076 --> 00:23:07,995
I mean, it's not really
my place to ask,
558
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,748
but I just remember Dr. Hoke
was pretty upset about it.
559
00:23:10,873 --> 00:23:11,957
Oh, yeah?
560
00:23:12,082 --> 00:23:13,709
Okay. Thanks for talking to us.
561
00:23:13,834 --> 00:23:15,211
- I'll take that.
- Yeah.
562
00:23:15,377 --> 00:23:16,462
Thanks a lot, Scott.
563
00:23:16,587 --> 00:23:17,922
All right.
564
00:23:21,926 --> 00:23:24,178
Sounds like Hoke was going
behind the company's back,
565
00:23:24,345 --> 00:23:26,430
trying to develop
a new software program.
566
00:23:26,555 --> 00:23:28,933
Either that, or
trying to hijack it.
567
00:23:29,225 --> 00:23:31,936
Explains why Oliver shows up
the night the body's found.
568
00:23:32,311 --> 00:23:34,480
Yeah, he's gonna get back
his program, right?
569
00:23:34,772 --> 00:23:37,691
Question is, did they want it
bad enough to kill him for it?
570
00:23:37,942 --> 00:23:39,819
Well, I mean, he was concerned
571
00:23:39,944 --> 00:23:41,445
that someone was going
to steal it, right?
572
00:23:41,570 --> 00:23:43,697
Otherwise, why disguise it
as baseball stats?
573
00:23:43,823 --> 00:23:45,741
And why would he bother to do it
on his own home computer?
574
00:23:45,866 --> 00:23:47,409
Unless he was worried
that his house
575
00:23:47,535 --> 00:23:49,370
wasn't as private
as he thought it was.
576
00:24:37,793 --> 00:24:39,044
Don,
577
00:24:39,253 --> 00:24:40,588
take a look.
578
00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:46,176
Oh, yeah, look at that.
579
00:24:46,927 --> 00:24:48,929
- Something was there.
- Mm-hmm.
580
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,849
Maybe they didn't have time
to pull the wire.
581
00:24:52,057 --> 00:24:54,101
A dead body decomposing a few
feet away --
582
00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:56,228
maybe they felt
the need to rush.
583
00:25:00,399 --> 00:25:01,734
DON:
Oh, yeah.
584
00:25:02,276 --> 00:25:04,486
Someone put some kind
of surveillance there.
585
00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:07,031
Hoke had a reason
to be paranoid.
586
00:25:10,659 --> 00:25:13,412
See, that must be why the
alarm went off two days late.
587
00:25:13,704 --> 00:25:16,457
DAVID: So someone came in after
he was murdered to remove the device.
588
00:25:16,582 --> 00:25:17,666
That's what tripped it.
589
00:25:17,791 --> 00:25:21,170
So, someone planted a surveillance
device in Dr. Hoke's house.
590
00:25:21,545 --> 00:25:24,715
Well, judging by your tone,
you think that someone is me?
591
00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:27,801
Dr. Hoke was working
on a software program
592
00:25:27,927 --> 00:25:30,512
that would be extremely
valuable to a lot of people.
593
00:25:30,638 --> 00:25:33,724
Yes, well, I gave the FBI full
access to the imaging data.
594
00:25:33,849 --> 00:25:36,477
DON: Well, actually, we found a second
body of work on his home computer,
595
00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:38,687
and it had nothing to do
with your satellite program.
596
00:25:38,854 --> 00:25:40,356
I have no idea
what you're talking about.
597
00:25:40,481 --> 00:25:41,523
No?
598
00:25:41,982 --> 00:25:43,150
You sure?
599
00:25:43,317 --> 00:25:46,737
So if our consultant wanted to develop
that data, you wouldn't assert a claim?
600
00:25:47,237 --> 00:25:51,617
Well, The Lorman Group has a
contract with every researcher we employ,
601
00:25:51,742 --> 00:25:55,120
so anything that Dr. Hoke worked
on is owned by the company.
602
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:56,497
Maybe he didn't agree.
603
00:25:56,622 --> 00:25:58,666
Maybe you went to his house,
argued.
604
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,459
The night I met you
is the only time
605
00:26:00,626 --> 00:26:02,503
I was ever in
Dr. Hoke's house.
606
00:26:02,628 --> 00:26:04,713
There's more then one way
inside of a person's home.
607
00:26:04,838 --> 00:26:06,924
Look, we want that surveillance,
okay?
608
00:26:07,049 --> 00:26:08,258
I want my lawyer.
609
00:26:08,425 --> 00:26:10,511
You sure? 'Cause if someone
happened to leak to the press
610
00:26:10,636 --> 00:26:12,471
that your company is
under criminal investigation,
611
00:26:12,513 --> 00:26:15,015
your government contracts --
they might dry up pretty darn fast.
612
00:26:15,057 --> 00:26:16,100
What do you think?
613
00:26:16,175 --> 00:26:17,385
TERRY: Feds don't like scandals.
614
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,186
You take a moment,
think about it.
615
00:26:19,895 --> 00:26:21,271
( sighs )
616
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,784
Jonas had no right
doing what he did.
617
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:34,952
No?
618
00:26:35,077 --> 00:26:39,331
The idea of using
statistical analyses
619
00:26:39,665 --> 00:26:41,917
to predict human performance
620
00:26:42,084 --> 00:26:44,211
originated in this company.
621
00:26:44,378 --> 00:26:46,005
But he didn't see it that way?
622
00:26:46,171 --> 00:26:49,425
He refused
to provide algorithms to us
623
00:26:49,550 --> 00:26:53,929
unless we gave him a percentage
of the license fees we charge
624
00:26:54,096 --> 00:26:56,015
for the use of our software.
625
00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:57,975
And this time I bet you refused.
626
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,185
I had no intention
of being extorted
627
00:27:00,310 --> 00:27:01,895
by Jonas Hoke or anyone else.
628
00:27:02,021 --> 00:27:03,605
So, you put the surveillance
on him?
629
00:27:03,731 --> 00:27:05,524
I did no such thing.
630
00:27:05,983 --> 00:27:07,651
But after I learned
that he died,
631
00:27:07,818 --> 00:27:11,155
I felt that we were within our
rights to retrieve the research.
632
00:27:11,321 --> 00:27:13,449
So, what,
you called your friend, Reacher?
633
00:27:14,116 --> 00:27:16,744
Look, the point
of all of this is,
634
00:27:16,910 --> 00:27:19,705
I didn't have to steal anything
from Jonas Hoke.
635
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:21,582
I already owned it.
636
00:27:21,957 --> 00:27:23,208
DON:
Uh-huh.
637
00:27:24,084 --> 00:27:25,210
All right.
638
00:27:25,335 --> 00:27:26,879
We'll be in touch.
639
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,346
So Oliver told you
what Hoke was working on.
640
00:27:36,513 --> 00:27:37,931
That's why
you wanted his people there.
641
00:27:38,098 --> 00:27:39,516
Oliver said Hoke had a program
642
00:27:39,683 --> 00:27:41,643
that could determine
with mathematical certainty
643
00:27:41,769 --> 00:27:43,896
which neighborhoods would
benefit from public spending
644
00:27:43,974 --> 00:27:45,100
and which ones wouldn't.
645
00:27:45,189 --> 00:27:47,649
Yeah, and you understand this
is about justifying taking money
646
00:27:47,775 --> 00:27:49,735
from some certain communities
and giving it to others.
647
00:27:49,902 --> 00:27:52,529
In case you hadn't heard,
we're running a $10 trillion deficit.
648
00:27:52,654 --> 00:27:54,156
Yeah, I read the papers.
649
00:27:54,281 --> 00:27:56,825
Why throw money away on
state-of-the-art lab facilities
650
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:58,410
for kids who have no potential?
651
00:27:58,535 --> 00:28:00,204
That's right.
Why even give them books?
652
00:28:01,705 --> 00:28:06,210
Oliver asked me if such a program
would be of value to the government.
653
00:28:06,335 --> 00:28:07,669
I believed it would.
654
00:28:07,836 --> 00:28:10,005
So you put the surveillance
in Hoke's house?
655
00:28:10,756 --> 00:28:12,132
No.
656
00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:14,802
You wouldn't tell me
if you did, would you?
657
00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:19,139
I understand you haven't turned the
data you got from Hoke's computer
658
00:28:19,264 --> 00:28:20,641
over to The Lorman Group yet.
659
00:28:20,808 --> 00:28:22,309
Yes, that's right, and I don't
have any intention of it.
660
00:28:22,434 --> 00:28:24,520
Oh, you realize,
I'll just have my boss call your boss.
661
00:28:24,645 --> 00:28:26,647
These relationships go way
beyond the two of us, Eppes.
662
00:28:26,772 --> 00:28:28,107
Part of a homicide
investigation.
663
00:28:28,232 --> 00:28:29,817
There's no telling when
it might become available,
664
00:28:29,983 --> 00:28:31,652
but you go ahead,
you make your call.
665
00:28:31,777 --> 00:28:34,571
We did not place surveillance
inside Jonas Hoke's house.
666
00:28:34,696 --> 00:28:37,366
DAVID: So, if it wasn't us, and
it wasn't Oliver's people,
667
00:28:37,533 --> 00:28:38,867
who was watching Hoke?
668
00:28:38,992 --> 00:28:41,328
Well, whoever it was,
it's clean.
669
00:28:41,453 --> 00:28:44,039
No prints,
no identifying signature.
670
00:28:44,248 --> 00:28:45,833
Any idea how they
could have done it?
671
00:28:45,999 --> 00:28:49,128
Well, the alarm company runs a
phone line through the touch pad.
672
00:28:49,294 --> 00:28:51,630
Whatever system was used
to spy on Hoke was
673
00:28:51,755 --> 00:28:54,216
piggybacked
onto the security system.
674
00:28:54,341 --> 00:28:55,968
So, it was a listening device?
675
00:28:56,135 --> 00:28:57,886
Some sort of audio
would be my guess,
676
00:28:58,053 --> 00:29:00,139
but it's hard to tell
without the actual device.
677
00:29:00,764 --> 00:29:02,599
Wait a minute.
Hold that screen right there.
678
00:29:02,766 --> 00:29:04,101
Don, take a look at this.
679
00:29:04,226 --> 00:29:06,478
This is the manufacturers' list
for the alarm system, right?
680
00:29:06,603 --> 00:29:08,397
- Mm-hmm.
- This is the serial number
681
00:29:08,564 --> 00:29:10,566
for that unit --
the unit in Hoke's house.
682
00:29:10,691 --> 00:29:12,276
Take a look at who bought it.
683
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,736
Grodin Construction.
684
00:29:14,862 --> 00:29:16,530
Aha. The boyfriend.
685
00:29:16,697 --> 00:29:17,865
Yup.
686
00:29:29,209 --> 00:29:30,460
Take it to four.
687
00:29:30,586 --> 00:29:31,628
MAN:
Okay.
688
00:29:31,795 --> 00:29:33,213
GRODIN:
You two again.
689
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:35,215
Yep...
with more questions.
690
00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:37,301
I don't know what else
I can tell you.
691
00:29:37,426 --> 00:29:40,470
Why don't you tell us about the bug
you planted in Jonas Hoke's house?
692
00:29:40,596 --> 00:29:42,139
DAVID: You know, for a while
there,
693
00:29:42,306 --> 00:29:43,724
I was thinking Gail
was the victim in all this.
694
00:29:43,849 --> 00:29:45,267
I didn't do anything wrong.
695
00:29:45,392 --> 00:29:46,393
No?
696
00:29:46,518 --> 00:29:48,520
Don't tell me this is the part
where you say that she did it all?
697
00:29:48,687 --> 00:29:50,564
Look, neither of us did
anything.
698
00:29:50,689 --> 00:29:53,650
DON: Well, we still got a dead body
and an alarm system that was bugged --
699
00:29:53,817 --> 00:29:55,611
an alarm system
that you installed.
700
00:29:56,612 --> 00:29:58,572
Gail's lawyer asked
me to help her guy
701
00:29:58,697 --> 00:30:01,241
put a wire or something
into Jonas's house,
702
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:03,327
but that's it.
That's all I did.
703
00:30:03,452 --> 00:30:05,370
DAVID: Turn around. Let's go.
704
00:30:10,584 --> 00:30:13,128
DAVID: Last time we spoke,
you weren't exactly forthcoming
705
00:30:13,253 --> 00:30:15,297
about your relationship
with Lucas Grodin.
706
00:30:15,464 --> 00:30:17,090
In what way
wasn't she forthcoming?
707
00:30:17,257 --> 00:30:18,926
For starters, how about the fact
you never mentioned
708
00:30:19,092 --> 00:30:22,346
you asked him to wire
your husband's house.
709
00:30:22,971 --> 00:30:25,599
The house was never adjudicated
as separate property,
710
00:30:25,766 --> 00:30:27,935
so therefore whatever
monitoring system Mrs. Hoke
711
00:30:28,101 --> 00:30:30,020
may have placed
in her own house,
712
00:30:30,145 --> 00:30:32,356
she was absolutely
entitled to do so.
713
00:30:32,606 --> 00:30:35,275
I put Jonas through college
and grad school.
714
00:30:35,442 --> 00:30:36,568
- Gail...
- I waited tables.
715
00:30:36,735 --> 00:30:40,322
I did anything I could, because I
believed we had a future together.
716
00:30:40,614 --> 00:30:43,492
Do you have any idea what it's
like to have your husband tell you
717
00:30:43,617 --> 00:30:45,869
your contribution
to your marriage isn't of value?
718
00:30:46,036 --> 00:30:47,371
ATTORNEY: I think we should take
a break now.
719
00:30:47,496 --> 00:30:49,456
I'm not finished
with your client, counselor.
720
00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,875
You can't prove
Gail did anything.
721
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,295
All I need to make out conspiracy
at this point is probable cause.
722
00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:58,548
And your boyfriend's alarm
system gives me exactly that.
723
00:30:58,924 --> 00:31:01,343
It also puts you in possession
of material evidence,
724
00:31:01,510 --> 00:31:03,512
and an obstruction
of justice charge, counselor.
725
00:31:03,637 --> 00:31:05,973
If Jonas were a doctor
or a lawyer,
726
00:31:06,098 --> 00:31:08,350
I'd be entitled
to half of everything.
727
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,936
But everything he had
was inside his head,
728
00:31:11,061 --> 00:31:13,939
so tell me, Agent Sinclair,
how do you get half of that?
729
00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:15,691
Which is why you put
surveillance in his house --
730
00:31:15,816 --> 00:31:17,109
to see what was on his computer.
731
00:31:17,276 --> 00:31:21,029
It was the only way Jonas would have
ever given me what I was entitled to.
732
00:31:21,196 --> 00:31:22,572
Right.
733
00:31:23,156 --> 00:31:25,826
But after you had
the information you needed,
734
00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:27,869
why'd you kill him?
735
00:31:29,288 --> 00:31:30,706
I didn't kill him.
736
00:31:31,915 --> 00:31:34,126
I could never do
anything like that.
737
00:31:34,251 --> 00:31:36,336
I told you, he was late
with a check.
738
00:31:36,461 --> 00:31:37,629
I went there to get it.
739
00:31:37,796 --> 00:31:39,131
That's when I found him dead.
740
00:31:39,298 --> 00:31:41,133
Gail did not kill her husband.
741
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:44,052
DAVID: Forgive me if I'm not
willing to take your word for it.
742
00:31:44,303 --> 00:31:45,887
ATTORNEY:
You don't have to.
743
00:31:46,054 --> 00:31:48,181
I have the surveillance,
remember?
744
00:31:50,058 --> 00:31:51,810
So is this an audio file?
745
00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:54,146
No, actually, digital video.
746
00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:55,772
So the device was a camera?
747
00:31:55,897 --> 00:31:57,065
Not exactly...
748
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:58,608
It was an antenna.
749
00:31:58,782 --> 00:32:00,409
CHARLIE:
A Van Eck phreak.
750
00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:02,904
But at a far more
sophisticated level.
751
00:32:03,030 --> 00:32:04,281
Wait, what are you guys
talking about?
752
00:32:04,406 --> 00:32:07,242
The wire you found in his house
wasn't for a camera.
753
00:32:07,367 --> 00:32:08,785
It wasn't for a microphone.
754
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:10,704
It was for a high-gain antenna.
755
00:32:10,871 --> 00:32:12,039
An antenna?
756
00:32:12,164 --> 00:32:13,623
For what? To pick up what?
757
00:32:13,749 --> 00:32:15,542
Well, with any LCD screen,
758
00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:19,004
liquid crystals provide an image
when energy passes through them.
759
00:32:19,129 --> 00:32:20,547
The color they become
760
00:32:20,672 --> 00:32:22,799
depends on the amount of energy
that they're exposed to.
761
00:32:22,966 --> 00:32:25,135
When energy passes
through these liquid crystals,
762
00:32:25,302 --> 00:32:27,846
it emits a wave
of electromagnetic radiation.
763
00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:30,015
Dutch physicist van Eck realized
764
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:31,767
that with an antenna
and a decoder,
765
00:32:31,933 --> 00:32:35,228
you could both read the waves
and decode them into a perfect replica
766
00:32:35,354 --> 00:32:37,356
of what someone would be seeing
on their computer screen.
767
00:32:37,481 --> 00:32:39,441
What you're saying is that
the antenna was able to read
768
00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:41,769
and pick up whatever was
on Hoke's home computer screen.
769
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,528
- That's right.
- That is amazing.
770
00:32:43,653 --> 00:32:46,323
Hoke had elaborate safeguards
against conventional hacking.
771
00:32:46,448 --> 00:32:47,741
Firewalls, blockers...
772
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,951
Still, nothing could stop this.
773
00:32:50,202 --> 00:32:51,870
Isn't that around the time
he was killed?
774
00:32:51,995 --> 00:32:53,163
Yeah.
775
00:32:57,793 --> 00:32:59,753
That's where the files
were being erased.
776
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,965
See the zeroes and ones just
flipping around, back and forth?
777
00:33:04,091 --> 00:33:05,884
So the killer
knew Hoke's passwords.
778
00:33:06,009 --> 00:33:07,886
Too bad he didn't
leave a fingerprint.
779
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,099
Actually, you know what?
I think he did.
780
00:33:15,435 --> 00:33:16,937
DON: All right, so what are we
looking at?
781
00:33:17,104 --> 00:33:19,356
Digital representations of a
pattern of keystrokes.
782
00:33:19,481 --> 00:33:21,274
One taken from Hoke's
computer at home,
783
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360
one from Hoke's computer
at work.
784
00:33:23,485 --> 00:33:25,821
Now, you know that experts can
distinguish
785
00:33:25,946 --> 00:33:28,198
one person's typing from another
by their rhythm.
786
00:33:28,323 --> 00:33:29,699
Yeah, you mean like Morse Code.
787
00:33:29,825 --> 00:33:30,700
Right.
788
00:33:30,826 --> 00:33:32,869
Telegraph operators
used to recognize each other
789
00:33:32,994 --> 00:33:36,123
by the different ways they used
to tap into the exact same codes,
790
00:33:36,248 --> 00:33:39,292
like a concert pianist sitting
down to play a piece of music.
791
00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:41,920
Even though the notes originate
from the sheet music,
792
00:33:42,045 --> 00:33:44,548
the way she plays them
is entirely distinctive.
793
00:33:44,673 --> 00:33:46,049
Now, if another pianist
794
00:33:46,174 --> 00:33:48,385
sits down to play
the same piece of music,
795
00:33:48,552 --> 00:33:51,596
the strength of notes,
the flourishes in rhythm
796
00:33:51,721 --> 00:33:54,474
would make the keystrokes
totally different.
797
00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:58,395
Now, only by seeing them
side-by-side
798
00:33:58,562 --> 00:34:00,439
would you be able to tell
they were different.
799
00:34:00,564 --> 00:34:01,815
See...
800
00:34:02,649 --> 00:34:04,860
Now, I'm sitting here,
and I'm looking at these,
801
00:34:05,026 --> 00:34:06,653
and they look identical to me.
802
00:34:06,778 --> 00:34:08,697
That's because they are, Don.
803
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,616
This is from Hoke's
computer at home.
804
00:34:11,741 --> 00:34:13,535
The keystrokes you're seeing are
passwords
805
00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:16,163
used to tap into Hoke's
sabermetrics files,
806
00:34:16,329 --> 00:34:18,790
made after Hoke was dead.
807
00:34:18,957 --> 00:34:22,502
This is from Hoke's computer
workstation at the Lorman Group,
808
00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:24,713
made after Hoke was dead.
809
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,467
So then this is the same person
that erased the files?
810
00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:46,443
DON: Scott Reynolds, you're under
arrest for the murder of Dr. Jonas Hoke.
811
00:34:46,610 --> 00:34:47,861
Get your hands up.
812
00:34:48,111 --> 00:34:49,154
( handcuffs snap )
813
00:34:49,279 --> 00:34:50,489
You have the right
to remain silent.
814
00:34:50,614 --> 00:34:53,533
Anything you say can and will be
used against you in a court of law.
815
00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:54,951
Bring him down.
816
00:35:16,598 --> 00:35:18,225
AGENT: All right, sir. Go ahead.
817
00:35:18,558 --> 00:35:19,893
What do you want?
818
00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:23,438
I'm trying to figure out
how you could kill a man,
819
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:25,899
how you could kill
a fellow scientist,
820
00:35:26,066 --> 00:35:27,275
to steal his work.
821
00:35:27,442 --> 00:35:29,069
Is that why you think
I killed Dr. Hoke?
822
00:35:29,236 --> 00:35:30,403
For the money?
823
00:35:31,321 --> 00:35:33,448
You weren't jealous
of his accomplishments.
824
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:36,618
His accomplishments...
is that what you call them?
825
00:35:39,454 --> 00:35:41,373
I grew up in West Oakland.
826
00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:45,043
Anyone I grew up with
who isn't dead or in prison
827
00:35:45,168 --> 00:35:47,212
is flipping burgers
or driving a truck.
828
00:35:47,337 --> 00:35:49,422
And it's not too difficult
to guess what Dr. Hoke's formula
829
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:53,051
would have said about putting a
computer lab in my high school.
830
00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:55,345
That computer lab saved my life,
831
00:35:55,512 --> 00:35:57,556
and next year,
it's gonna save somebody else's.
832
00:35:57,681 --> 00:36:00,517
And killing Dr. Hoke
accomplishes that?
833
00:36:02,352 --> 00:36:04,187
You think it stops there?
834
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,690
In the last century,
835
00:36:06,856 --> 00:36:08,692
the Nazis used
the theory of eugenics
836
00:36:08,817 --> 00:36:11,444
to stop the poor
from reproducing.
837
00:36:11,945 --> 00:36:14,781
Eventually, they justified
just killing the sick ones.
838
00:36:15,323 --> 00:36:16,866
You can't compare
that to this...
839
00:36:17,033 --> 00:36:18,285
Actually, that's
a perfect comparison,
840
00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:19,869
cause what Jonas was doing
841
00:36:20,036 --> 00:36:22,706
was taking away a person's
chance at life.
842
00:36:23,498 --> 00:36:24,916
It's taking away someone's hope.
843
00:36:25,041 --> 00:36:27,752
And I did what I had to do
to stop that before it started.
844
00:36:28,837 --> 00:36:30,797
That makes you a murderer.
845
00:36:33,592 --> 00:36:35,594
Don't you ever wonder
about your own work?
846
00:36:37,887 --> 00:36:39,681
What about my work?
847
00:36:41,766 --> 00:36:44,144
Well, you consult for the NSA,
don't you?
848
00:36:45,687 --> 00:36:46,813
Ah...
849
00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:48,315
of course you do.
850
00:36:49,316 --> 00:36:51,401
So you're gonna tell me
that everything you do
851
00:36:51,526 --> 00:36:53,528
will be used for good
all the time?
852
00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:56,364
What's your point?
853
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,534
Well, you're asking me
how I'm gonna live with myself.
854
00:36:59,659 --> 00:37:00,869
Look in the mirror.
855
00:37:00,994 --> 00:37:02,787
Ask yourself the same question.
856
00:37:02,912 --> 00:37:04,372
Let's go.
857
00:37:19,804 --> 00:37:21,514
Jonas Hoke's last hurdle.
858
00:37:21,682 --> 00:37:23,391
Oh, yes, his equation
859
00:37:23,516 --> 00:37:27,020
seeking to predict a
person's chance at success.
860
00:37:28,688 --> 00:37:30,690
He never got to finish it.
861
00:37:31,107 --> 00:37:33,234
I thought maybe I'd
give it a shot myself.
862
00:37:33,943 --> 00:37:35,487
Why?
863
00:37:35,862 --> 00:37:37,405
To what end?
864
00:37:37,739 --> 00:37:40,950
This work is just a
self-fulfilling prophecy.
865
00:37:41,451 --> 00:37:42,619
How do you mean?
866
00:37:42,786 --> 00:37:45,747
Well, Charles, if we use numbers
867
00:37:45,914 --> 00:37:49,834
to choose who among us
gets opportunity,
868
00:37:49,959 --> 00:37:53,838
then by definition,
those we haven't chosen don't.
869
00:37:54,631 --> 00:37:56,174
I mean, that's not science.
870
00:37:56,299 --> 00:37:58,051
Well, it's not good science.
871
00:37:58,301 --> 00:37:59,844
It's like, every year
872
00:37:59,969 --> 00:38:01,971
college football chooses
a national champion,
873
00:38:02,097 --> 00:38:04,057
but they use computers
to determine
874
00:38:04,182 --> 00:38:06,476
which two teams
play for the title.
875
00:38:06,561 --> 00:38:08,812
And every year, invariably,
876
00:38:08,937 --> 00:38:11,356
some team gets
left off that believes,
877
00:38:11,481 --> 00:38:13,775
well, it could have won
the game on the field
878
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:16,736
if it had just
been given the chance.
879
00:38:16,861 --> 00:38:19,406
I've always believed
that it was my duty
880
00:38:20,073 --> 00:38:22,325
to develop mathematical tools,
881
00:38:23,118 --> 00:38:26,579
and someone else's
to use them wisely.
882
00:38:28,081 --> 00:38:29,624
Could I have been wrong?
883
00:38:31,584 --> 00:38:35,797
The consequence of our
understanding subatomic particles
884
00:38:35,964 --> 00:38:40,135
was a horrible bomb that
transformed the world we live in
885
00:38:40,385 --> 00:38:42,846
and a source of energy,
886
00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:46,641
the basis of life-saving
techniques,
887
00:38:47,058 --> 00:38:50,019
and an indispensable
scientific tool.
888
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,105
Science...
889
00:38:52,772 --> 00:38:55,900
you know, science, not this,
890
00:38:56,151 --> 00:38:57,652
but real science,
891
00:38:57,819 --> 00:38:59,320
is discovery, Charles.
892
00:38:59,446 --> 00:39:00,780
It's not invention.
893
00:39:00,864 --> 00:39:05,285
The truths are there,
whether we find them or not.
894
00:39:06,161 --> 00:39:07,537
Listen, I'm gonna
grab a bite to eat.
895
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:09,080
You want to come?
896
00:39:13,293 --> 00:39:14,669
Okay.
897
00:39:14,753 --> 00:39:16,212
Thank you.
898
00:39:20,008 --> 00:39:21,634
( door closes )
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