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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:04,724 --> 00:02:06,356 We met Dima in Kiev, 2 00:02:06,702 --> 00:02:08,021 he had decided to quit his job 3 00:02:08,101 --> 00:02:11,708 and volunteer to fight against the Separatists in the East of the country. 4 00:02:13,351 --> 00:02:17,546 This is the apartment where I live with my girlfriend. 5 00:02:17,978 --> 00:02:20,907 This is our desk and our desk stuff. 6 00:02:21,232 --> 00:02:21,945 This is my rabbit, 7 00:02:22,615 --> 00:02:24,464 his name is cat. 8 00:02:27,859 --> 00:02:30,324 This is my own body armour. 9 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:35,329 This celox (medical supplies), was sent from the united states. 10 00:02:35,783 --> 00:02:40,778 This... transfer performing US. 11 00:02:41,264 --> 00:02:47,740 It is not military, it is for tourists but it's nice too. 12 00:02:48,735 --> 00:02:51,578 Is this the first time that you are going to actually fight? 13 00:02:51,762 --> 00:02:54,973 Yeah, its my first time but my friends no. 14 00:02:55,351 --> 00:02:58,930 It's safe now 15 00:02:59,124 --> 00:03:01,676 but what will happen tomorrow I don't know. 16 00:03:02,736 --> 00:03:04,174 Everything is going to be alright. 17 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,143 It's a shame. 18 00:03:18,418 --> 00:03:21,553 The revolution had left the government in complete disarray 19 00:03:21,757 --> 00:03:26,554 but inspired a new found patriotism among much of the civilian population. 20 00:04:08,013 --> 00:04:10,216 I can do it, I can do it. 21 00:04:10,635 --> 00:04:11,784 Yep, 22 00:04:14,405 --> 00:04:15,595 see you later, 23 00:04:24,162 --> 00:04:27,689 The lack of government support meant many supplies were being collected 24 00:04:27,769 --> 00:04:30,202 and donated by ordinary people, 25 00:04:30,837 --> 00:04:34,959 Dima was delivering these supplies in a refurbished civilian vehicle 26 00:04:35,256 --> 00:04:37,108 to help the fight on the front line. 27 00:05:02,623 --> 00:05:06,246 We left Dima and the volunteers still with no idea of 28 00:05:06,326 --> 00:05:08,623 what they would be facing when they arrived. 29 00:05:10,502 --> 00:05:13,339 After much discussion about our own safety 30 00:05:13,529 --> 00:05:16,448 we decided that the only real way to understand the conflict 31 00:05:16,528 --> 00:05:18,678 was to see it from the other side 32 00:05:18,758 --> 00:05:21,393 and head into separatist territory ourselves. 33 00:05:22,961 --> 00:05:24,583 Despite being advised not to go 34 00:05:24,663 --> 00:05:28,650 we took a train to heavily disputed city of Donetsk. 35 00:05:38,002 --> 00:05:40,110 Donetsk was the main Separatist stronghold 36 00:05:40,190 --> 00:05:43,853 which the Ukrainians desperately wanted to take back. 37 00:05:44,084 --> 00:05:45,881 On our arrival at the train station, 38 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:49,705 we were held at gun point and sent directly to the government building. 39 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:55,800 We had not exactly been prepared for such an arrival, 40 00:05:56,097 --> 00:05:58,732 so the situation was tense as we waited to see 41 00:05:58,812 --> 00:06:00,961 if they would let us continue to film. 42 00:06:02,596 --> 00:06:05,313 We make films, so documentaries. 43 00:06:05,515 --> 00:06:06,786 And now you will also make films? 44 00:06:08,056 --> 00:06:10,448 How great the people n Donetsk region are? 45 00:06:10,744 --> 00:06:14,609 After some questioning, we were eventually allowed to leave. 46 00:06:15,554 --> 00:06:17,230 After looking around on our way out 47 00:06:17,310 --> 00:06:20,203 it was obvious the takeover must have been unexpected 48 00:06:20,283 --> 00:06:24,393 and brutal as the entire building had been completely ransacked. 49 00:06:25,623 --> 00:06:29,015 The government building had been taken from the Ukrainians by force 50 00:06:29,095 --> 00:06:31,880 several weeks before we had arrived. 51 00:06:32,961 --> 00:06:34,826 It had been barricaded for defence 52 00:06:34,906 --> 00:06:38,272 to help ensure the Separatists kept control of the city. 53 00:06:39,583 --> 00:06:41,840 Outside we then tried to talk to some locals, 54 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,759 who weren't too keen about being filmed. 55 00:06:57,364 --> 00:07:01,298 It became apparent to us very quickly that many of the local people here 56 00:07:01,378 --> 00:07:03,392 were not the biggest fans of the west, 57 00:07:03,852 --> 00:07:06,392 or of us, being from the UK. 58 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:44,230 After the initial shock of our arrival 59 00:07:44,433 --> 00:07:48,176 and seeing firsthand how the locals didn't want us to be there 60 00:07:48,256 --> 00:07:51,677 the constant shelling of the city by the Ukrainian military 61 00:07:51,988 --> 00:07:55,177 was something we didn't expect to be so close to. 62 00:08:05,988 --> 00:08:10,137 Whilst even the centre of Donetsk was under constant threat of being shelled 63 00:08:10,515 --> 00:08:14,690 it was easy to understand why people felt threatened by the Ukrainian forces 64 00:08:14,770 --> 00:08:16,434 who had besieged the city. 65 00:08:27,785 --> 00:08:29,677 One night from our balcony, 66 00:08:29,757 --> 00:08:33,664 in between the shelling we heard planes flying overhead 67 00:08:34,191 --> 00:08:35,975 followed by an explosion. 68 00:08:49,474 --> 00:08:52,974 Early the next day we decided to go and see what had happened. 69 00:09:01,516 --> 00:09:03,664 After only a 10 minute drive 70 00:09:03,744 --> 00:09:06,016 we arrived where the bombs had landed, 71 00:09:06,394 --> 00:09:10,273 it had hit an industrial estate close to a driving test centre 72 00:09:10,353 --> 00:09:13,692 nowhere near any separatist military instillations. 73 00:09:35,137 --> 00:09:39,799 As with all conflicts it was the civilian population caught in the middle 74 00:09:40,326 --> 00:09:42,812 that were suffering the consequences. 75 00:10:13,071 --> 00:10:16,544 It's impossible to say if it was the Ukrainian military trying to scare 76 00:10:16,624 --> 00:10:19,423 the remaining civilian population out of the city, 77 00:10:19,977 --> 00:10:23,463 but for many it only distanced them further from their own government 78 00:10:23,543 --> 00:10:27,207 and closer to the Separatists' pro-Russian mentality. 79 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:52,989 We then went to a refugee centre with a Brazilian journalist, 80 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,016 after initially being interrogated by Separatist soldiers 81 00:10:57,381 --> 00:11:01,530 we were then escorted around the building by one soldier called Ruslan. 82 00:11:29,328 --> 00:11:33,598 After our initial questioning the Separatists had mistaken us 83 00:11:33,678 --> 00:11:35,395 all as being Brazilian 84 00:11:35,746 --> 00:11:39,395 which interestingly seemed to make people much more open to talk to us. 85 00:14:52,918 --> 00:14:56,986 It seemed that many people felt threatened by the change they felt 86 00:14:57,216 --> 00:14:58,999 was being forced upon them. 87 00:15:13,027 --> 00:15:15,310 To try and find out more we spoke to Rudolf 88 00:15:15,390 --> 00:15:18,500 who was the press officer for the Separatists in Donetsk. 89 00:15:18,905 --> 00:15:23,756 Do you think the government are lying to the Ukrainian people? 90 00:15:23,836 --> 00:15:27,594 A total lie. Total, total lie. 91 00:15:28,203 --> 00:15:33,243 From (beginning) to end Total. 92 00:15:35,596 --> 00:15:38,109 Corruption, total corruption 93 00:15:39,082 --> 00:15:42,704 from middle to high offices. 94 00:15:43,757 --> 00:15:46,649 Now in Kiev, the government... 95 00:15:47,001 --> 00:15:50,311 are a group of savages. 96 00:15:52,109 --> 00:15:57,352 We have to build new customs, 97 00:15:57,973 --> 00:16:00,662 new society 98 00:16:01,067 --> 00:16:02,500 human society. 99 00:16:02,743 --> 00:16:04,108 not capitalist 100 00:16:04,486 --> 00:16:07,108 human society. 101 00:16:07,581 --> 00:16:11,649 Today Ukrainian people 102 00:16:13,108 --> 00:16:14,216 are ill, 103 00:16:15,581 --> 00:16:18,824 ill in the head, and ill in the soul. 104 00:16:23,503 --> 00:16:26,422 Even though the Separatists had full control of the city 105 00:16:26,733 --> 00:16:30,043 there were a few pro-Ukrainian activists still in Donetsk. 106 00:16:30,786 --> 00:16:32,894 We went to meet Maria Olynik 107 00:16:32,974 --> 00:16:36,543 who had been opposing the rebels since they took control of the city. 108 00:16:37,529 --> 00:16:40,934 Despite the risks she agreed to speak with us on camera. 109 00:18:09,189 --> 00:18:13,391 We were aware that many atrocities were occurring daily during the conflict, 110 00:18:13,716 --> 00:18:15,945 but it was sobering to hear the brutal measures 111 00:18:16,025 --> 00:18:20,161 the Separatists had taken to prevent people protesting against them. 112 00:18:20,959 --> 00:18:25,067 Maria was showing an incredible amount of courage by deciding to stay 113 00:18:25,377 --> 00:18:29,905 especially considering the amount of Separatist soldiers patrolling the city. 114 00:18:34,594 --> 00:18:37,661 They made they're presence known in a number of ways... 115 00:18:41,203 --> 00:18:44,419 Here they are driving around the city centre 116 00:18:44,636 --> 00:18:47,284 commemorating the paratroopers of WWII 117 00:18:47,364 --> 00:18:49,703 by firing their machine guns into the air. 118 00:19:01,136 --> 00:19:03,744 Propaganda was rife throughout the city. 119 00:19:04,352 --> 00:19:05,744 We saw more in Donetsk 120 00:19:05,824 --> 00:19:09,555 then we would ever see in any of the Ukrainian held territories. 121 00:19:09,987 --> 00:19:12,514 There were billboards depicting the Separatists 122 00:19:12,594 --> 00:19:14,703 as a brave few fighting the many, 123 00:19:14,933 --> 00:19:18,082 there were also stalls selling bumper stickers and key rings. 124 00:19:18,838 --> 00:19:22,095 A common theme was regurgitating WWII rhetoric 125 00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:26,905 comparing this conflict to the invasion of the Nazis. 126 00:19:27,906 --> 00:19:30,257 We wanted to understand some of the other reasons 127 00:19:30,337 --> 00:19:33,068 motivating Separatist soldiers to fight. 128 00:19:33,879 --> 00:19:38,014 We managed to gain access to the main Separatist military base in Donetsk. 129 00:21:39,797 --> 00:21:41,945 The conflict had acted as a catalyst 130 00:21:42,025 --> 00:21:44,229 for the far right movement in Ukraine. 131 00:21:50,957 --> 00:21:54,849 The far right sector were Ultra nationalist Ukrainian volunteers 132 00:21:54,929 --> 00:21:57,836 with a reputation for their viciousness in battle. 133 00:22:09,026 --> 00:22:11,174 Many of the Separatist soldiers we had met 134 00:22:11,254 --> 00:22:15,714 had come from Russia to fight against European influence in Ukraine 135 00:22:16,025 --> 00:22:18,430 although it was the far right volunteer battalions 136 00:22:18,510 --> 00:22:21,065 that seemed to be one of their biggest concerns. 137 00:22:24,429 --> 00:22:26,402 Whilst filing at the training ground 138 00:22:26,482 --> 00:22:30,362 we were given a stark reminder of the hostile situation we were in, 139 00:22:30,578 --> 00:22:34,146 when an explosion went off nearby sending everyone into panic. 140 00:22:37,632 --> 00:22:40,781 We were advised shortly afterwards to leave the area. 141 00:22:41,051 --> 00:22:42,497 We are going to end now. 142 00:22:46,605 --> 00:22:47,835 We wanted find out more about 143 00:22:47,915 --> 00:22:50,430 the Ukrainian far right movement we had been told about, 144 00:22:50,754 --> 00:22:53,889 so after a treacherous journey out of Separatist territory 145 00:22:53,969 --> 00:22:55,565 we headed for Mariupol. 146 00:22:57,686 --> 00:23:01,457 During the chaos following the Euro Maidan Revolution in Kiev, 147 00:23:01,646 --> 00:23:05,078 the south eastern city of Mariupol was one of the cities taken 148 00:23:05,158 --> 00:23:07,417 by the pro-Russian Separatists'. 149 00:23:08,796 --> 00:23:12,404 After a period of violent clashes with pro-Russian supporters, 150 00:23:12,484 --> 00:23:14,971 amid reports of looting and violence, 151 00:23:15,051 --> 00:23:18,741 Ukrainian forces failed to keep control of the city. 152 00:23:21,147 --> 00:23:24,687 Many pro-Russian residents including some of the local police, 153 00:23:24,767 --> 00:23:26,782 rebelled against the Ukrainian forces 154 00:23:26,862 --> 00:23:28,741 and forced them out of the city. 155 00:23:32,228 --> 00:23:33,349 Whilst retreating, 156 00:23:33,593 --> 00:23:36,782 Ukrainian troops fired on pro-Russian supporters, 157 00:23:37,025 --> 00:23:38,903 killing several civilians. 158 00:23:51,173 --> 00:23:53,430 The Ukrainian military had been provoked 159 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:56,133 by Separatist supporters in plain clothes 160 00:23:56,213 --> 00:23:58,474 shooting from the cover of the crowds. 161 00:24:22,244 --> 00:24:24,298 Heavy fighting later resumed 162 00:24:24,378 --> 00:24:28,339 and after a big push from Ukrainian volunteer battalions and military, 163 00:24:28,609 --> 00:24:31,001 the city was finally reclaimed. 164 00:24:40,676 --> 00:24:44,203 The battalion that took credit for taking back Mariupol 165 00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:46,581 was the infamous Azov Battalion. 166 00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:12,772 The Azov battalion had a reputation for being fierce fighters 167 00:25:12,852 --> 00:25:16,231 who took action whilst many sat back and did nothing. 168 00:25:16,568 --> 00:25:20,758 They had even taken the ex president Viktor Yanukovych's holiday home 169 00:25:20,838 --> 00:25:23,244 as their main base of operations. 170 00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:08,100 These Ultra Nationalists whom many Separatists considered as their main enemy, 171 00:26:08,343 --> 00:26:10,978 wanted complete Ukrainian independence... 172 00:26:11,573 --> 00:26:15,168 and their passion had gained them popularity throughout the country. 173 00:26:26,194 --> 00:26:28,626 Azov had also cause much controversy 174 00:26:28,706 --> 00:26:32,453 however amidst allegations of torture, war crimes 175 00:26:32,533 --> 00:26:35,277 and their links to neo-Nazism. 176 00:26:42,332 --> 00:26:45,969 The Battalion has its roots in a group of football hooligan 'ultras' 177 00:26:46,049 --> 00:26:48,373 named "Sect 82" 178 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:50,225 At the start of the conflict, 179 00:26:50,305 --> 00:26:54,373 "Sect 82" occupied administration buildings in the east 180 00:26:54,453 --> 00:26:57,075 to stop them being taken by the Separatists, 181 00:26:57,507 --> 00:27:00,697 appointing themselves as a local "self-defense"-force. 182 00:27:02,062 --> 00:27:05,481 This 'self defence' force then became a militia, 183 00:27:05,738 --> 00:27:07,873 and relocated to Mariupol, 184 00:27:07,953 --> 00:27:11,089 where they assisted the military in taking back the city. 185 00:27:11,169 --> 00:27:14,697 Once armed by the Ukrainian Government Azov grew 186 00:27:14,777 --> 00:27:18,805 and were involved in many battles to retake lost territory in the East. 187 00:27:39,711 --> 00:27:42,361 It was their ties with Neo-Nazism however 188 00:27:42,441 --> 00:27:45,050 that had gained them notoriety, 189 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,145 in particular their insignia being the wolfs-angle 190 00:27:48,225 --> 00:27:51,294 a symbol commonly used by the Nazi SS. 191 00:28:02,512 --> 00:28:06,026 It was this link to Nazism that had made them enemy number one 192 00:28:06,106 --> 00:28:08,430 for many pro-Russian supporters. 193 00:28:08,836 --> 00:28:12,241 With many people in the east having close ties with Russia, 194 00:28:12,512 --> 00:28:16,755 and the millions of Soviet lives lost against the Nazis in WWII 195 00:28:17,391 --> 00:28:21,755 it's easy to see how this propaganda could be so effective. 196 00:28:22,728 --> 00:28:26,417 Azov was Portrayed as bloodthirsty right wing hooligans 197 00:28:26,497 --> 00:28:30,417 armed and given a licence to kill by the Ukrainian State. 198 00:28:32,107 --> 00:28:35,702 With the government in such disarray at the start of the conflict 199 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,189 these far right volunteer battalions played an important part 200 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:42,338 in maintaining Ukrainian sovereignty. 201 00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:45,581 Whether they made the situation better or worse 202 00:28:45,661 --> 00:28:47,513 is still up for debate. 203 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:51,933 After spending some time in Mariupol, 204 00:28:52,013 --> 00:28:53,325 by complete chance 205 00:28:53,405 --> 00:28:56,689 we were then to witness something that shook us to our core. 206 00:34:03,518 --> 00:34:06,004 We couldn't believe what we had seen that day. 207 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,680 We were stepping over the bodies of hundreds of innocent civilians. 208 00:34:11,815 --> 00:34:14,747 The look of complete terror in their faces 209 00:34:15,085 --> 00:34:17,072 is something that we will never forget. 210 00:34:20,694 --> 00:34:23,248 As the lists of the victims were released 211 00:34:23,830 --> 00:34:27,235 the reality of what we had seen began to sink in. 212 00:34:30,843 --> 00:34:34,140 The initial evidence blaming the Separatists seemed pretty legitimate, 213 00:34:34,817 --> 00:34:37,857 the official investigation from the Dutch safety board however 214 00:34:37,937 --> 00:34:39,979 took 15 months to complete 215 00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:42,573 concluding that they knew what had caused the crash 216 00:34:42,653 --> 00:34:45,114 but still could not determine who was responsible. 217 00:34:46,749 --> 00:34:49,140 Frustrated with the lack of real answers 218 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:51,370 we decided to try and look elsewhere... 219 00:34:51,735 --> 00:34:53,330 When Mh17 was shot down there 220 00:34:53,410 --> 00:34:55,627 was obviously a lot of debate about what happened 221 00:34:55,707 --> 00:34:58,410 and people uh on social media 222 00:34:58,626 --> 00:35:02,816 were asking me could I geo locate a video could I verify stuff. 223 00:35:03,586 --> 00:35:06,925 So I started doing that and as more and more material became 224 00:35:07,005 --> 00:35:09,317 uh you know was produced online I examined it 225 00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:11,425 and then you started to have the 2 narratives pushed 226 00:35:11,615 --> 00:35:13,682 by the Ukrainian government and their supporters 227 00:35:13,762 --> 00:35:16,574 and the Russian government and their supporters. 228 00:35:17,398 --> 00:35:20,479 Eliot Higgins is a British citizen journalist and blogger, 229 00:35:20,858 --> 00:35:22,506 known for using open sources 230 00:35:22,586 --> 00:35:26,763 and social media to investigate a variety of different conflicts worldwide. 231 00:35:27,952 --> 00:35:31,331 After initial blame being put on the Pro-Russian Separatists 232 00:35:31,641 --> 00:35:34,844 a photo emerged online through Russian media outlets 233 00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:39,979 of what appeared to be a Ukrainian fighter jet shooting down MH17 234 00:35:40,344 --> 00:35:42,344 You had an image that was basically a composite 235 00:35:43,195 --> 00:35:47,303 of satellite imagery you know images of aircraft, 236 00:35:47,641 --> 00:35:49,979 um that was first published on an internet forum 237 00:35:50,168 --> 00:35:55,668 someone emailed that to an organisation called the Russian Engineers Union, 238 00:35:55,748 --> 00:35:59,452 who had written some rather dodgy reports on Mh17. 239 00:35:59,681 --> 00:36:02,357 They then took it to a major Russian news channel called 240 00:36:02,437 --> 00:36:04,168 Barbushley as if it was genuine. 241 00:36:04,398 --> 00:36:06,722 When we were looking at the imagery. 242 00:36:07,357 --> 00:36:09,654 When you have something that's too good to be true 243 00:36:09,857 --> 00:36:11,654 you start to think "how could this have been faked?" 244 00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:13,938 Well we could see that there was satellite imagery used there 245 00:36:14,018 --> 00:36:16,587 so we could use the details on the image that was presented 246 00:36:16,667 --> 00:36:18,074 to find the exact location. 247 00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:20,992 When we found that location we could go through the different 248 00:36:21,072 --> 00:36:22,384 public satellite imagery sites. 249 00:36:22,464 --> 00:36:24,871 So Google Earth, Google maps and Yandex maps 250 00:36:25,128 --> 00:36:28,290 and look at for example the clouds in the imagery. 251 00:36:28,547 --> 00:36:30,696 And we were able to find specific clouds 252 00:36:30,776 --> 00:36:35,034 that matched perfectly to the image that was presented as being MH17 253 00:36:35,683 --> 00:36:36,697 and these were, 254 00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:39,737 there were multiple clouds from different dates from different sites 255 00:36:39,926 --> 00:36:41,588 showing that was a composite image. 256 00:36:41,804 --> 00:36:45,750 Then the actual jet that was being shot down in this image 257 00:36:45,965 --> 00:36:50,871 was the first result for basically top view of a jet in Russian, 258 00:36:51,938 --> 00:36:57,695 and the jet fighter firing at it looked like an image from online. 259 00:36:58,425 --> 00:37:01,790 And then the features like it was off course anyway, 260 00:37:01,870 --> 00:37:03,682 based off the information that was available, 261 00:37:04,304 --> 00:37:07,115 has it have been that large at that altitude. 262 00:37:07,195 --> 00:37:10,750 It would have either been within several hundred metres of the satellite 263 00:37:11,048 --> 00:37:13,170 or something like four miles long. 264 00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:14,791 So we know neither of those could be true, 265 00:37:14,871 --> 00:37:18,737 so all the different elements of it just you know show that it was fake. 266 00:37:19,075 --> 00:37:21,521 There were some that believed bullet holes in the wreckage 267 00:37:21,601 --> 00:37:24,521 proved that the jet had been shot down. 268 00:37:24,819 --> 00:37:28,913 This representative from the USCE who said when he saw it, 269 00:37:28,993 --> 00:37:30,670 it looked like bullet holes to him. 270 00:37:31,535 --> 00:37:36,508 I've looked at huge numbers of photographs of the crash site 271 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:40,183 and now there's plenty of holes in the front end of MH17. 272 00:37:40,859 --> 00:37:44,575 You know when it came to them being examined by the Dutch safety board 273 00:37:44,805 --> 00:37:48,277 none of these holes were bigger than 15 than around 15 millimeters 274 00:37:48,357 --> 00:37:50,561 they were kind of had a range of sizes and shapes. 275 00:37:50,818 --> 00:37:53,155 Now if it was shot down by an SU25 276 00:37:53,235 --> 00:37:54,952 or a jet using cannon fire 277 00:37:55,209 --> 00:37:59,398 those bullets are kind of 20 millimeters or 30 millimeters from the cannon 278 00:37:59,696 --> 00:38:03,102 and very few of those holes are anywhere near that size 279 00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:07,818 so unless the bullets magically shrunk as they approached the aircraft, 280 00:38:08,034 --> 00:38:10,142 it can't be from that kind of fire. 281 00:38:10,222 --> 00:38:12,021 Maybe Separatists on the ground 282 00:38:12,101 --> 00:38:14,130 fired at the aircraft for whatever reason 283 00:38:14,643 --> 00:38:17,914 after it crashed but I don't think there's any compelling evidence 284 00:38:17,994 --> 00:38:20,468 of bullet holes being in MH17. 285 00:38:20,778 --> 00:38:23,481 The official Joint Investigation Teams report 286 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:27,778 eventually found BUK missile parts in the wreckage of MH17, 287 00:38:28,426 --> 00:38:32,994 and concluded that it had indeed been shot down by a BUK surface to air missile. 288 00:38:33,886 --> 00:38:37,130 The question then remained who fired it 289 00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:38,967 and from where. 290 00:38:39,197 --> 00:38:43,711 One of the 1st images of a BUK missile launcher was taken on July 17th, 291 00:38:44,035 --> 00:38:45,724 4 hours before the tragedy. 292 00:38:46,563 --> 00:38:50,076 The team at Bellingcat was able to use open source information 293 00:38:50,266 --> 00:38:52,914 to pinpoint the location it was taken. 294 00:38:53,387 --> 00:38:55,373 The shop in the background was traced 295 00:38:55,453 --> 00:38:58,117 by searching the name visible in the photo 296 00:38:58,576 --> 00:39:01,873 and finding the address from sources available online. 297 00:39:02,211 --> 00:39:04,373 Using Yandex maps and the address 298 00:39:04,819 --> 00:39:09,306 it was then possible to locate the exact location the photo was taken. 299 00:39:09,766 --> 00:39:13,293 Further online searches of Torez, where the shop is situated, 300 00:39:13,604 --> 00:39:16,860 reviled dash-cam videos of people driving around the area 301 00:39:17,117 --> 00:39:21,090 and from these videos it was possible to locate both the yellow shop front 302 00:39:21,414 --> 00:39:23,779 and the distinct black and white stripped building 303 00:39:23,859 --> 00:39:25,874 visible in the original photo. 304 00:39:27,522 --> 00:39:30,238 Based on that information it was possible to say that 305 00:39:30,318 --> 00:39:33,035 the camera was positioned here (marked in red) 306 00:39:33,306 --> 00:39:37,441 in the forecourt of a garage south of the store (marked in yellow), 307 00:39:37,765 --> 00:39:42,171 and the approximate position of the Buk missile launcher (marked in green) 308 00:39:43,076 --> 00:39:45,820 Journalists have since visited the exact location 309 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:48,442 to confirm that this is indeed where the photo of 310 00:39:48,522 --> 00:39:50,834 the BUK missile launcher was taken. 311 00:39:52,158 --> 00:39:56,604 There were also several other confirmed sightings of a BUK missile launcher, 312 00:39:56,942 --> 00:40:00,132 all within Separatist held territory of Eastern Ukraine. 313 00:40:01,888 --> 00:40:05,023 This photo posted 3 hours after the crash 314 00:40:05,103 --> 00:40:09,010 depicts the trail left behind the missile that hit MH17. 315 00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:12,807 It has been confirmed to be within rebel held territory 316 00:40:12,887 --> 00:40:15,551 and within firing distance of the aircraft. 317 00:40:17,402 --> 00:40:19,618 However the Russian Defence ministry later claimed that 318 00:40:19,698 --> 00:40:23,456 the BUK had belonged to Ukraine and that they were responsible. 319 00:40:23,835 --> 00:40:28,241 We've um reviewed the image of the BUK missile launcher in Ukraine. 320 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:31,174 It has some very distinct features markings, 321 00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:33,377 damage to the side skirt, 322 00:40:33,457 --> 00:40:35,661 and we've compared that damage 323 00:40:35,741 --> 00:40:39,148 and those details to dozens of BUK missile launchers from both Ukraine 324 00:40:39,406 --> 00:40:41,163 and those inside Russia. 325 00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:44,730 Now there's only one missile launcher that has the same features 326 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:47,785 that's a BUK missile launcher numbered 332, 327 00:40:48,015 --> 00:40:50,690 from Russia 53rd air defence brigade. 328 00:40:51,501 --> 00:40:54,244 There's not even one other missile launcher we've found 329 00:40:54,324 --> 00:40:56,501 that shares more than one or two features in common 330 00:40:56,581 --> 00:41:00,204 with that missile launcher and they're the more kind of generic features. 331 00:41:00,488 --> 00:41:03,948 Things like the rubber skirt damage the exact positioning of the markings, 332 00:41:04,515 --> 00:41:07,015 only match that missile launcher from Russia. 333 00:41:07,664 --> 00:41:11,056 I've seen no one present any evidence of any Ukrainian missile launcher 334 00:41:11,136 --> 00:41:12,637 that matches in the same way. 335 00:41:14,259 --> 00:41:17,245 The following day after the crash this video was filmed 336 00:41:17,325 --> 00:41:21,259 of a BUK missile launching system with one of the missiles missing. 337 00:41:21,975 --> 00:41:24,381 This became a crucial piece of evidence 338 00:41:24,625 --> 00:41:26,908 and the Russian Defense Ministry claimed it had been filmed 339 00:41:26,988 --> 00:41:29,016 in Ukrainian held territory. 340 00:41:29,232 --> 00:41:32,029 However, using further geo-location techniques 341 00:41:32,109 --> 00:41:33,664 and journalists on the ground 342 00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:38,151 it was then proven to be in rebel held territory on its way back to Russia. 343 00:41:40,084 --> 00:41:42,138 Further analysis of social media sites 344 00:41:42,218 --> 00:41:46,165 even enabled investigators to confirm the battalion responsible 345 00:41:46,638 --> 00:41:49,030 and identify specific individuals 346 00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:51,611 who were most likely to have been in command. 347 00:41:53,854 --> 00:41:57,760 Despite a 16 month investigation by the Dutch safety board 348 00:41:57,962 --> 00:42:01,570 and the overwhelming amount of evidence pointing at the Separatists 349 00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:04,341 nobody has yet been charged for the atrocity. 350 00:42:12,098 --> 00:42:14,693 We later returned east to catch up with Dima, 351 00:42:14,773 --> 00:42:18,044 by this point a shaky ceasefire had been put in place 352 00:42:18,124 --> 00:42:21,233 with reports of both sides constantly violating it. 353 00:42:23,801 --> 00:42:25,652 Since we had last seen him in Kiev 354 00:42:25,732 --> 00:42:28,720 he had been fighting the Separatists on the frontline. 355 00:42:28,977 --> 00:42:35,004 We are now located out at Novoaidar suburbs in Lugansk region, 356 00:42:35,977 --> 00:42:41,004 basically I got here after our last meeting, 357 00:42:41,207 --> 00:42:43,247 last year in my apartment in Kiev. 358 00:42:44,612 --> 00:42:51,031 At this very crossroad my first military experience got started. 359 00:44:31,003 --> 00:44:35,273 It was a reality check to hear how many volunteers had lost their lives 360 00:44:35,557 --> 00:44:38,841 and how quickly Dima had been exposed to the fighting 361 00:44:38,921 --> 00:44:43,463 so soon after leaving the safety and stability of his previous life. 362 00:45:36,395 --> 00:45:40,314 Dima was taking us to a town which had been literally split in 2, 363 00:45:40,584 --> 00:45:42,544 one side was held by the Separatists, 364 00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:47,327 the other by Ukrainian forces where tensions were high. 365 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:15,058 It was unbelievable 366 00:47:15,138 --> 00:47:18,612 that the warring sides had just a small river separating them. 367 00:47:18,692 --> 00:47:21,991 And it became easy to understand, with tensions so high, 368 00:47:22,071 --> 00:47:25,059 why the ceasefire continued to be broken. 369 00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:28,531 The People living on these newly established borders 370 00:47:28,611 --> 00:47:31,410 were the ones being hit the hardest by the conflict, 371 00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:33,410 with supplies being completely cut off 372 00:47:33,708 --> 00:47:35,870 the volunteer battalions did what they could 373 00:47:35,950 --> 00:47:38,559 to help deliver much needed aid. 374 00:50:15,651 --> 00:50:18,489 The conflict at this point had reached a stalemate 375 00:50:18,759 --> 00:50:21,488 the Separatists had managed to keep control of Donetsk 376 00:50:21,568 --> 00:50:23,245 and much of Luhansk. 377 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,745 After some difficulty we finally managed to get back in contact with Mari, 378 00:50:28,825 --> 00:50:32,651 the pro-Ukrainian activist living in Separatist held Donetsk, 379 00:50:33,272 --> 00:50:35,583 after over a year of Separatist control 380 00:50:35,786 --> 00:50:38,827 we were relived to find out that she was still ok. 381 00:50:40,043 --> 00:50:42,543 It was surreal to be back in Donetsk 382 00:50:42,894 --> 00:50:44,746 ATM's still didn't function 383 00:50:45,002 --> 00:50:48,867 and the Russian Rouble had been adopted as the main currency 384 00:50:49,097 --> 00:50:51,043 check points between the two territories 385 00:50:51,123 --> 00:50:55,205 often left people queuing for days to get basic supplies in and out. 386 00:54:09,503 --> 00:54:13,760 Sit here, you can film but sit down. 387 00:54:24,204 --> 00:54:27,243 If you sit down and enjoy. 388 00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:46,946 What happened? 389 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,555 Oh right it went all the way through! 390 00:54:53,311 --> 00:54:54,879 Not good news, 391 00:54:56,933 --> 00:55:03,067 oh my god my camel bag! Fuck off, oh my god. 392 00:55:03,364 --> 00:55:05,932 What have you got to say Dima, for yourself. 393 00:55:06,946 --> 00:55:13,095 I'm very upset, ha-ha, I'm very fucking upset. 394 00:55:15,935 --> 00:55:18,637 So you guys not safe whole time. 395 00:55:28,108 --> 00:55:29,837 It's okay. 34635

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