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- Donald Trump was never a man
wwho was dying to settle down.
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[dramatic music]
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- Ivana had other choices
and she chose Donald.
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- He was generating
this image of himself
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as a successful millionaire.
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- You read about him
on the front page.
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He was a big deal.
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- In Atlantic City,
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Trump in quick succession opens
Trump Plaza and Trump Castle.
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- Okay, now is the time folks,
all right?
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♪
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- Donald Trump believed that
if he had three casinos,
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he would dominate the city.
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♪
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- He had to borrow
$675 million
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at an interest rate of 14%.
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- Here comes the war
of the Trumps.
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Ivana and the Donald
are calling it quits.
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- He was on the front page
of the papers for 28 days.
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I never saw anything like it
in my life.
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♪
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- Donald's debts are
piling up,
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he was having trouble paying
all of his bills.
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- In what could be his final
roll of the dice,
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The Donald met late into
the night with creditors
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who want to get
their money back.
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- Trump was staring
at destroying
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not only his own legacy
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but his father's legacy
as well.
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♪
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[engines revving]
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- I covered Trump so closely
for a period of time
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that he was routinely inviting
me to fly with him
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on his plane to Mar-a-Lago,
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fly with him on his plane
to Los Angeles.
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These were long plane rides.
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He liked to sit
and watch movies
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and he actually
has interesting,
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eclectic, strange taste
in movies.
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He likes everything from
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Jean-Claude Van Damme
action flicks
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to Citizen Kane.
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- I have money and property.
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If I don't look
after the interests
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of the underprivileged,
maybe somebody else will.
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- And one of his favorite
movies is "Sunset Boulevard"
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and he and I watched
"Sunset Boulevard" together
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with a giant feed bag
of potato chips.
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[projector rolling]
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One of the most
memorable moments for me
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was when William Holden
and Gloria Swanson
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are watching an old silent
Norma Desmond movie.
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She issues a warning
to the Hollywood establishment.
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- Oh, those idiot producers.
Those imbeciles.
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Haven't they got any eyes?
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Have they forgotten
what a star looks like?
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I'll show them. I'll be
up there again, so help me!
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- Trump stopped and said to me,
"Those are just amazing lines."
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He loved Norma Desmond's
statement
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about celebrity revenge
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and what I took from that
was he knew what it was like
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to be in the public eye,
to be a big celebrity,
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and anyone who thought that
he had fallen out of favor,
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would come to regret that
later and that he'd be back.
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[crowd clamoring]
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[crowd continues clamoring]
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- All right, Mr. DeMille,
I'm ready for my close-up.
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[jazzy music]
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♪
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- All right, this is
the Alan Marcus interview,
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take one, marker.
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[clicking]
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[suspenseful music]
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- Thanks again, Alan, for doing
this. We really appreciate it.
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Why don't we jump to the time
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that you started working
with him.
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[indistinct chattering]
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♪
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- Back in, uh,
the early '90s,
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Donald went through
a terrible period of, uh, time.
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- The for sale sign
is going up
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at one of Donald Trump's
Atlantic City casinos
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in hopes of reducing
the company's
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$1.7 billion debt.
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- He overbought;
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he bought the Plaza Hotel,
paid too much money.
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He bought the Trump Shuttle,
paid too much money--
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and the casino bankruptcies.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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His divorce from Ivana,
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his failures
in other businesses,
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he was not the fair-haired boy
that he had been, uh,
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when he was building
Trump Tower.
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He was in a steady decline,
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maybe $4 billion
of corporate debt.
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The myth was broken.
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Newspapers were now
going after him
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instead of just doing
press releases on him.
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Oh, it was very bad.
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- Donald Trump can't
come up with enough cash
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to make a debt payment.
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- Donald Trump owed
$2 billion even.
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- Will Trump's fragile
financial house of cards
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start to collapse?
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- We were in real trouble.
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[solemn music]
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We were on the precipice
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of not being able
to make payroll.
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We ended up borrowing
a significant sum of money
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from his father's
estate trust.
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There was a lot of nervousness
and angst and a lot
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of working with lawyers
to protect the trust.
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And I would walk
into Donald's office,
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for one reason or another.
He'd be calm.
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He would never even
ask me about it.
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- Rough.
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- Why does that happen?
Why--
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- When he says that he's
not stressed about it,
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what he's really saying
is that he didn't care.
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If you're Donald Trump,
what you care about most
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is what people think of you
and maintaining the image
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of the consummately powerful,
always in control man.
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- Donald doesn't care
about the facts.
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He cares about
how the facts appear.
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It's not what they are;
it's how they appear.
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Donald would always say to me,
"We never use the B word."
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- They would say,
"Oh, Trump went bankrupt."
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I said I never went
[bleep] bankrupt.
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I never did
a personal bankruptcy
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or anything like that.
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That's another falsehood.
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Nobody has ever used
the bankruptcy code
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better than Donald Trump.
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- Donald said there were
no bankruptcies,
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and that was always
Donald's interpretation
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of a prepackaged bankruptcy,
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but a bankruptcy
is a bankruptcy.
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Donald knew that
he had to show that
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that was in his past,
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that he had to talk about
his comeback.
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And so, he started by having
a book penned.
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"Trump: The Art Of
The Comeback."
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♪
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- The business book is how
to come back from adversity,
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how to handle adversity,
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and I think it's something
that, really, people wanna read
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as you can see by what
you're seeing right now.
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- It was the comeback
of the year,
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the comeback of the decade,
the comeback of the century,
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but he had to find
new sources of revenue
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because banks were
no longer interested
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in doing business
with Donald Trump.
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Sometimes you're forced
into something
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by the way nature takes you,
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and it was the best thing that
ever happened to Donald.
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When it was becoming
more difficult to finance,
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the Trump name
still had value.
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You put Trump on a--on a--
on a building
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and the resale value
of the apartments
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was actually
pretty good and higher.
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[suspenseful music]
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There was a quality
attributed to it
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because Donald made it
a quality.
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Live like Trump,
be like Trump,
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make a comeback like Trump.
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We were talking once about
how many bathrobes get stolen
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at the casinos,
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these white,
terry cloth robes,
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and I jokingly said, "Well,
why don't we sell them?"
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I said, we could put that
dumb Trump crest,
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which looks like
it's 300 years old
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but it's about
three days old.
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And sure enough, the Trump
crest went on the bathrobes,
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they were selling them,
I think, for $26 apiece.
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They cost us three.
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And before you knew it,
it was Trump soap,
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and it was Trump this,
and it was Trump that.
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♪
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There was actually
a Trump scent.
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I was part of
the Trump scent team.
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I remember thinking,
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"Does anybody really wanna
smell like Donald Trump?"
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- I fashion myself quite
the ad Sherpa, guru, expert.
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This is about the only guy
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I wouldn't have
to tell anything.
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- A big and tasty
for just a dollar?
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I think you'll like it.
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- Cause he--he gets it.
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He--he is the living embodiment
of his brand.
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- The same luxury and comfort
I demand in my hotels.
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- Only at Macys.
- This is a guy,
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who in some animalistic,
intuitive primal ways
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knows how to keep this beast
moving and growing
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in every way,
even when it's failing.
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- May I have the last slice?
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- Actually, you're only
entitled to half.
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- He was building
a steady stream of revenue
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through those means,
but it wasn't anything huge.
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So he was casting around
for the next big thing,
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and along came a TV producer
named Mark Burnett.
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- Mark Burnett
had his incredibly
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successful franchise
with "Survivor"
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and what he said was that
reality TV was such a cash cow
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because it was cheap
to produce
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and also it would keep
producing itself.
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You didn't need scripts.
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So he hoped to do
the same thing
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with a still cheaper show,
"The Apprentice."
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[epic music]
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- Who will be
"The Apprentice"?
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- Burnett saw Donald Trump
as the master salesman
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who could market anything.
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When Burnett came up
to the tower
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and described
what he had in mind,
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this show that would showcase
everything about Trump--
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his helicopters would be
in the show,
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his hotels would be
in the show,
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his family would
be in the show.
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Suddenly, Donald Trump was
quite interested in that.
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- The whole show was
an infomercial for Trump.
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♪
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- New York, my city.
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- The opening to
"The Apprentice"
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is something like,
"We're now in the real jungle."
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- Manhattan is a tough place.
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- "Here you can be top of the
world and bottom of the world.
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Careers are made and broken."
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- If you're not careful,
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it can chew you up
and spit you out.
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- Trump starts "The Apprentice"
when he's on the skids.
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- I was seriously in trouble.
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I was billions of dollars
in debt,
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but I fought back
and I won, big league.
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- Trump says, "I've been up,
I've been down,"
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but he's not back on top.
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He's engineering his supposed
comeback on the show.
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Donald Trump
needs Mark Burnett
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every bit as much as
Mark Burnett needs him.
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He's now going to try
to trade on a new version
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of his character,
which is that he's a survivor.
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♪
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- I'm looking
for the Apprentice.
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- There are clouds over
the Trump Castle here
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in Atlantic City.
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- Trump was going through
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one of the worst patches
in his career.
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What "The Apprentice"
brought him was not only
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the prospect
of even greater fame,
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a chance to remake his image,
but also a steady income.
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[horns honking]
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- I had no expectations
for "The Apprentice,"
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only that I was going to win.
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Donald Trump was going
to host us
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and select one of us
to be his heir apparent.
256
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It was just a great narrative
for any young entrepreneur.
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My first memory
of Donald Trump
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is when we were all brought
into the boardroom.
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- Hey, Mr. Trump
will see you now.
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You can go in over there.
261
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- We had to introduce
ourselves to him.
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I read everything
I could find on Donald Trump,
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on his parents,
on his grandparents,
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going back to Germany.
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I've got genetic pool,
big time, Mr. Trump,
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just like you got from
your father, Fred Trump,
267
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and your mother,
Mary Trump.
268
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In my research,
I found that he is a big fan
269
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of the Asian form
of greeting.
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So, I bowed.
I wanted to win.
271
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It was
the American dream on TV.
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- The way the show
was originally scripted,
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Donald Trump's role was
kind of minimal.
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He was going to, uh,
issue the ruling
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at the very end of the show
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and it would be kind of cut
and dried.
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♪
278
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But in that first
taping session,
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Trump kind of went off script.
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- When you're trying
to be chosen,
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you don't interrupt them
and say let me finish.
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You know, in terms of life.
283
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We're talking about life,
right, fellas?
284
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- One of the first times
they were filming a firing,
285
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he said to one of the
contestants, "You're fired."
286
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- You're fired.
287
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- And the producers of the show
called that gesture
288
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"The Cobra."
289
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And it was Donald cobra-like
striking
290
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and getting rid
of the incompetent contestant.
291
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- You're fired.
292
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[dramatic music]
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- Probably two to three
episodes in,
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I started to get a sense
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of the ratings
we were receiving.
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I started to feel people
recognizing me
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in the street in New York.
298
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I started to have people
come up to me
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and do the whole
"You're fired. You're fired."
300
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It just started to snowball
and snowball.
301
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- Mark Burnett is clearly
a genius.
302
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His brilliant move
was finding Donald Trump
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to host this.
304
00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:38,905
Donald Trump was
the only person
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that could host
"The Apprentice."
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- Do you think that's true?
- Absolutely not.
307
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- Kwame, what do you think?
308
00:13:44,345 --> 00:13:46,086
- I think one,
Omarosa did a great job.
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- But you lost.
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- He did a good job,
actually, I think,
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of kind of
picking people apart
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in the boardroom.
313
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People would kind of
just start to fold
314
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because he would--he would
prick and pry
315
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and--and maybe that was the
part that was good for ratings.
316
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- Donald, right here!
- Need a picture, Mr. Trump!
317
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- I think the appeal
of "The Apprentice"
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is what it offered.
319
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Power, money.
320
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They wanted that, they wanted
to be in the position to say,
321
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"You're fired,"
322
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or they wanted to be
recognized by the man
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who had the power and says,
324
00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:18,118
"You're somebody who's
gonna make it in America.
325
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Just gotta learn
to step on people."
326
00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:23,123
- This quest to work hard,
327
00:14:23,253 --> 00:14:27,692
to devise a concept,
the best concept wins.
328
00:14:27,823 --> 00:14:29,259
- It's the embodiment
329
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of the American
entrepreneurial ideal.
330
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- It could become
really sharky.
331
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People could just go
after each other.
332
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You just had to really watch
what you said in the boardroom
333
00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:44,840
and you had to be keenly aware
of how others were trying
334
00:14:44,971 --> 00:14:47,364
to position you
and tell your narrative
335
00:14:47,495 --> 00:14:50,150
and make sure that that was
connecting with Donald Trump.
336
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,891
- Sam,
you're sort of a disaster.
337
00:14:52,021 --> 00:14:52,935
I don't know
what's going on.
338
00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:54,284
Everyone hates you.
339
00:14:54,415 --> 00:14:55,807
- I don't think
they hate me, Mr. Trump.
340
00:14:55,938 --> 00:14:57,157
- Yeah, pretty close.
Some hate.
341
00:14:57,287 --> 00:14:58,898
So far, you've got
no respect from anybody.
342
00:14:59,028 --> 00:15:00,812
Would you say that's
a correct statement, Nick?
343
00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:03,685
- I'd say that's correct.
344
00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:07,341
- I think that was one
of Trump's great strategies,
345
00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:10,431
to create chaos
and create situations
346
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where people would essentially
start to tell on each other.
347
00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:14,261
- Do you guys think
Sam's a leader?
348
00:15:14,391 --> 00:15:16,872
- No, and we have to all,
the rest of the team,
349
00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:18,874
tell Sam, calm down.
350
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That's not showing
the sign of a good leader.
351
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- You're fired.
352
00:15:22,269 --> 00:15:25,054
I have no choice.
You're fired, Sam.
353
00:15:25,185 --> 00:15:29,711
- It was like I had been shot
between the eyes.
354
00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:31,365
I was devastated.
355
00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:34,194
I was the only one
who was clueless
356
00:15:34,324 --> 00:15:36,413
as to the fact that I was
going to be eliminated.
357
00:15:36,544 --> 00:15:40,940
I believed that Trump and I
had this special connection.
358
00:15:41,070 --> 00:15:44,334
[dramatic music]
359
00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:47,381
- A number of the firings
really turned out to be nasty,
360
00:15:47,511 --> 00:15:50,950
and they really
are amazingly devastated.
361
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,908
- And that makes great,
dramatic TV.
362
00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,476
[suspenseful music]
363
00:15:55,606 --> 00:15:58,348
- The funniest thing is
if you ever watch, like,
364
00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:01,177
the first segment ever
of "Apprentice,"
365
00:16:01,308 --> 00:16:03,179
it's like,
"I'm Donald Trump.
366
00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:06,791
I own real estate
all over the place."
367
00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:08,315
- My name's Donald Trump,
368
00:16:08,445 --> 00:16:10,273
and I'm the largest real
estate developer in New York.
369
00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:12,362
I own buildings all over
the place.
370
00:16:12,493 --> 00:16:16,062
- Number one, he wasn't the
biggest developer in New York.
371
00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:18,847
- [laughing]
It's--it's all bull[bleep].
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00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:21,893
He owned [bleep],
he owns nothing.
373
00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:25,288
Nobody bull[bleep]
better than him.
374
00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:27,987
- The Trump story is
the Trump narrative.
375
00:16:28,117 --> 00:16:32,121
It's how he sees the story,
how he weaves the story.
376
00:16:32,252 --> 00:16:34,341
How he decides what
the story is gonna be,
377
00:16:34,471 --> 00:16:38,171
which maybe had no relationship
at all to the facts.
378
00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:40,042
Whatever his message is,
379
00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:42,262
that's what
you're going to hear.
380
00:16:42,392 --> 00:16:45,091
- He's reality
a television performer.
381
00:16:45,221 --> 00:16:48,833
He pretends to be
a successful businessman,
382
00:16:48,964 --> 00:16:50,444
that is essential.
383
00:16:50,574 --> 00:16:53,838
He looks the part
in a televisual sense.
384
00:16:53,969 --> 00:16:56,189
- He's perfectly coiffed,
385
00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:59,931
he's perfectly made-up,
he's perfectly lit,
386
00:17:00,062 --> 00:17:02,412
he's in the high-back chair.
387
00:17:02,543 --> 00:17:04,196
He looks like
a million dollars
388
00:17:04,327 --> 00:17:07,113
and he's acting decisively.
389
00:17:07,242 --> 00:17:09,289
- All of these tricks
of art tell us
390
00:17:09,419 --> 00:17:11,943
that he's a rich person
beyond question,
391
00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:14,163
you know,
always and forever, amen,
392
00:17:14,294 --> 00:17:15,946
but in the real world,
393
00:17:16,078 --> 00:17:17,471
he's a person
with enormous debt.
394
00:17:17,601 --> 00:17:20,300
Donald Trump is not
a successful businessman
395
00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:22,084
any more than the guy
who's playing the doctor
396
00:17:22,214 --> 00:17:25,131
on "General Hospital"
is actually a doctor.
397
00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:27,175
- I'd been very successful.
398
00:17:27,307 --> 00:17:28,438
And people are starting
to find out
399
00:17:28,569 --> 00:17:29,874
I've been much
more successful
400
00:17:30,005 --> 00:17:31,528
than people even admit.
401
00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:33,182
Okay, people are starting
to figure that out.
402
00:17:33,313 --> 00:17:35,445
I'm much richer
than people understand.
403
00:17:35,576 --> 00:17:39,232
- Donald has known
for a long time
404
00:17:39,362 --> 00:17:41,364
that you can fool people
405
00:17:41,495 --> 00:17:44,411
because they want
to be fooled, they're lazy.
406
00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:46,587
He got some of that from
Roy Cohn, I believe.
407
00:17:46,717 --> 00:17:49,546
I think he got some
of that from his father.
408
00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:52,158
I think he got some of that
from his own intuitiveness.
409
00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:17,183
- Well I didn't shape
the image, he did.
410
00:18:17,313 --> 00:18:19,141
There should be no mistake.
411
00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:21,274
Nobody shaped the image.
Donald shaped the image.
412
00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:23,189
Did I help it along?
Yeah.
413
00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:27,149
Um, um, was I complicit in it?
Yeah.
414
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,066
Uh, but--but the mastermind,
the genius, was Donald.
415
00:18:35,375 --> 00:18:37,246
[dram ♪ to
416
00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:39,292
- One Saturday,
Donald asked me to meet him
417
00:18:39,422 --> 00:18:41,076
at his apartment
in Trump Tower,
418
00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:43,078
and we jumped into
his Mercedes-Maybach
419
00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:45,298
and drove from Manhattan
out to Bedminster
420
00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:48,910
and I was just firing
various questions off
421
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,912
about how he felt
about himself and life
422
00:18:51,042 --> 00:18:52,392
and one of the questions was,
423
00:18:52,522 --> 00:18:55,264
what do you dream about
at night most often?
424
00:18:55,395 --> 00:18:57,353
And without hesitation,
425
00:18:57,484 --> 00:19:00,095
he said "[bleep],
it's always [bleep]."
426
00:19:00,226 --> 00:19:02,053
[chuckling]
427
00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:04,882
[upbeat music]
428
00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:07,276
♪
429
00:19:07,407 --> 00:19:09,844
- I used to own a model
agency.
430
00:19:09,974 --> 00:19:11,759
It was the Week of Fashion.
431
00:19:11,889 --> 00:19:14,718
We had our model agency party.
432
00:19:14,849 --> 00:19:18,461
♪
433
00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:21,377
The security told me,
"Mr. Trump is arriving."
434
00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:24,337
Mr. Trump was already
considered a celebrity.
435
00:19:24,467 --> 00:19:27,340
So of course he was
a VIP guest.
436
00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:29,298
So I said, "Donald, please,
437
00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:31,170
we'd like you to sit here
real fast."
438
00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:33,172
And at the same table there
was Melania.
439
00:19:34,999 --> 00:19:37,524
Melania was one of my models.
440
00:19:37,654 --> 00:19:41,136
- In 1998, after his second
marriage had broken up,
441
00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:43,225
Donald Trump was dating again
and he was out
442
00:19:43,356 --> 00:19:45,923
And he spied Melania Knauss.
443
00:19:46,054 --> 00:19:49,927
- Melania was really different
from many other models.
444
00:19:50,058 --> 00:19:51,929
She was very, very
professional.
445
00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:55,106
Very elegant.
Very classic.
446
00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:58,371
She was very diligent about
her work.
447
00:19:58,501 --> 00:20:01,548
She had a great portfolio.
448
00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:06,205
- We were both at the same
party and that's how we met.
449
00:20:06,335 --> 00:20:08,250
- I was actually supposed
to meet somebody else
450
00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:09,991
and there was
this great supermodel.
451
00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:11,906
I said forget about her,
452
00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:14,256
who's the one on the left?
And it was Melania.
453
00:20:14,387 --> 00:20:17,041
- Two weeks later, I did
a dinner for this designer,
454
00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,870
Roberto Cavalli.
455
00:20:20,001 --> 00:20:21,872
And they arrive together.
456
00:20:22,003 --> 00:20:24,353
And I was really shocked.
457
00:20:24,484 --> 00:20:26,964
But I saw some magic
between them.
458
00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,357
[soft music]
459
00:20:28,488 --> 00:20:30,446
[crowd clamoring]
460
00:20:30,577 --> 00:20:33,884
- He was proud
of his relationship with her.
461
00:20:34,015 --> 00:20:37,105
He felt having Melania
on his arm
462
00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:40,064
offered evidence that he was
still sexually robust
463
00:20:40,195 --> 00:20:42,241
and sexually attractive
and a man about town.
464
00:20:42,371 --> 00:20:43,981
- Did you like him right away?
465
00:20:44,112 --> 00:20:46,419
- It was a great chemistry
and energy.
466
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:48,464
We had, uh, you know,
great time.
467
00:20:48,595 --> 00:20:51,424
We start to talk
and you know, it was--
468
00:20:51,554 --> 00:20:53,469
something was there
right away.
469
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,081
- Melania is not like
so many arm candy, uh,
470
00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,258
trophy wives, if you like,
looking all the time
471
00:20:59,388 --> 00:21:01,347
to how to promote Melania.
472
00:21:01,477 --> 00:21:03,131
Melania's always made sure
that Trump feels
473
00:21:03,262 --> 00:21:06,047
that he is the focus
of her interest.
474
00:21:06,177 --> 00:21:07,396
One of her friends
said to me,
475
00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:09,398
"Ask not what the Donald
could do for you
476
00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:12,445
but what you can do
for the Donald."
477
00:21:12,575 --> 00:21:15,186
That was gonna be the mantra
by which she lived.
478
00:21:15,317 --> 00:21:19,321
Her role was
to be brand enhancement.
479
00:21:19,452 --> 00:21:20,931
- Donald Trump is
on the phone.
480
00:21:21,062 --> 00:21:22,368
- Oh!
- Hi, Howard.
481
00:21:22,498 --> 00:21:23,325
- Let me talk to
that broad in your bed.
482
00:21:23,456 --> 00:21:25,109
What is she wearing?
483
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,110
- I don't know,
maybe I should get her--
484
00:21:26,241 --> 00:21:28,156
do you want me to get her?
485
00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:29,592
- Yeah, yeah, let me talk
to her for a second.
486
00:21:29,723 --> 00:21:31,246
- I think he has always chosen
women as ornaments.
487
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:33,292
He's very about aesthetic
and beauty.
488
00:21:33,422 --> 00:21:35,119
- Hello?
- Hey--hey.
489
00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,513
- Hi, how are you?
- You are so hot.
490
00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:40,255
- Oh, thank you.
- I see pictures of you,
491
00:21:40,386 --> 00:21:41,038
I can't believe it,
you're a dream.
492
00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:42,344
- Oh!
493
00:21:42,475 --> 00:21:44,128
- I think that Trump
always felt
494
00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:46,435
that being surrounded
by beautiful women
495
00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:49,090
was part of the aura
he needed to develop.
496
00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:50,221
- Are you in love with Trump?
497
00:21:50,352 --> 00:21:52,354
- Yeah, we have a great time.
498
00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:54,182
- You wanna marry him?
- Uh, I'm not answering that.
499
00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:56,880
[crowd clamoring]
500
00:21:57,011 --> 00:21:59,840
[light music]
501
00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:04,148
♪
502
00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:06,194
- I went to the wedding
because a big sort of callout
503
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,414
went out to have various
media people invited,
504
00:22:08,544 --> 00:22:09,937
and of course I couldn't
resist that it was
505
00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:11,678
at Mar-a-Lago.
506
00:22:11,808 --> 00:22:14,333
Was it a fun intimate wedding
where you felt in touch
507
00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:16,247
with a certain amount
of intimacy with a family
508
00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:18,206
that was embracing a marriage?
509
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:20,077
No, this was a marketing event
510
00:22:20,208 --> 00:22:21,252
and rather a well-done
one actually.
511
00:22:21,383 --> 00:22:23,429
[chuckling]
512
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,605
- It was my first time
at Mar-a-Lago.
513
00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:27,911
I never been to such
a fabulous wedding
514
00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:29,391
in my life.
515
00:22:29,522 --> 00:22:31,959
There was a thousand people.
516
00:22:32,089 --> 00:22:33,352
All VIPs.
517
00:22:33,482 --> 00:22:35,049
I even met Hillary Clinton.
518
00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:38,618
- We're so happy
for both of you.
519
00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:40,576
I know the third time's
the charm
520
00:22:40,707 --> 00:22:44,145
and, uh, we wish you the very
best and much happiness
521
00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:46,277
for many years to come.
522
00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:47,409
- Thank you
and make sure you watch
523
00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:49,237
"The Apprentice" tonight,
Katie.
524
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:53,633
- Oh, my God, do you ever quit?
All right.
525
00:22:53,763 --> 00:22:55,504
- At one point we're
in the back of his limo,
526
00:22:55,635 --> 00:22:57,332
and he was talking about
his wedding
527
00:22:57,463 --> 00:22:59,639
and he sort
of randomly shared with me
528
00:22:59,769 --> 00:23:01,380
that he was
a little bit nervous.
529
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:03,120
And I asked, "Well, why?
Why are you nervous?"
530
00:23:03,251 --> 00:23:04,731
And he said,
"Well, you know,
531
00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:08,648
"it's one of those things--
the hunt is so enjoyable,
532
00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:11,520
"but then once you get it,
it can end up being
533
00:23:11,651 --> 00:23:13,566
a little disappointing
once you have it."
534
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:16,177
- Do you worry about women and
him being attracted to them?
535
00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:18,440
- No. I don't worry about
that at all.
536
00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:20,355
I know--I know who I am
537
00:23:20,486 --> 00:23:23,445
and, um, if a man doesn't
want to be with me
538
00:23:23,576 --> 00:23:25,665
or I don't want to be with
a man--so--
539
00:23:25,795 --> 00:23:28,581
- Goodbye and good luck.
- That's right.
540
00:23:28,711 --> 00:23:33,673
- They get married in 2005
and about nine months later
541
00:23:33,803 --> 00:23:36,197
the news breaks
that Melania is pregnant.
542
00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:38,460
- And Mr. and Mrs. Trump,
[indistinct].
543
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,639
- Around the same time,
544
00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:47,295
Donald, who's now
a television celebrity,
545
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,254
is recorded on a hot-mic
by a correspondent
546
00:23:50,385 --> 00:23:51,342
for "Access Hollywood."
547
00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:19,936
- [chuckling] - There is one event that
defines sports entertainment.
548
00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:21,982
- Welcome to WrestleMania!
549
00:24:22,112 --> 00:24:25,159
[cheering]
550
00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:28,249
[upbeat music]
551
00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:32,993
- In 2007, Donald Trump is
searching for other venues
552
00:24:33,123 --> 00:24:34,603
to help him build
his personal brand
553
00:24:34,734 --> 00:24:37,911
and one part of that
effort is to suddenly appear
554
00:24:38,041 --> 00:24:38,999
in professional wrestling.
555
00:24:39,129 --> 00:24:41,480
♪
556
00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:44,091
- He had made a study of the
ratings from "The Apprentice"
557
00:24:44,221 --> 00:24:47,224
and he knew he was especially
popular not on the coasts
558
00:24:47,355 --> 00:24:50,053
but in the heartland--
white, middle-class voters,
559
00:24:50,184 --> 00:24:51,838
and that's who was coming
to WrestleMania.
560
00:24:51,968 --> 00:24:53,404
Just as with
"The Apprentice,"
561
00:24:53,535 --> 00:24:57,017
WrestleMania was
a crucial stepping stone
562
00:24:57,147 --> 00:24:59,106
on Donald Trump's path
to the Oval Office.
563
00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:01,238
♪
564
00:25:01,369 --> 00:25:03,284
- Donald Trump has
a pretty long history
565
00:25:03,414 --> 00:25:05,155
with professional wrestling.
566
00:25:05,286 --> 00:25:09,420
In the 1980s, his properties
were hosts for a variety
567
00:25:09,551 --> 00:25:11,858
of pay-per-view
and major cards
568
00:25:11,988 --> 00:25:14,077
for what is now the WWE.
569
00:25:14,208 --> 00:25:17,603
When Donald Trump arrives
in the WWE in 2007,
570
00:25:17,733 --> 00:25:20,257
he is arriving at a point
where Vince McMahon
571
00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:22,390
has developed a character.
572
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:24,566
- Mr. McMahon!
573
00:25:24,697 --> 00:25:28,004
- He is the evil boss
of the WWE.
574
00:25:28,135 --> 00:25:31,051
The fans despise Mr. McMahon.
575
00:25:31,181 --> 00:25:34,663
The problem is you need to find
someone else who can step in
576
00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:38,319
and make Mr. McMahon pay for
what he is doing to the fans
577
00:25:38,449 --> 00:25:39,494
and to the wrestlers.
578
00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:41,104
- You laugh at me, huh?
579
00:25:41,235 --> 00:25:42,584
[crowd yelling]
580
00:25:42,715 --> 00:25:45,195
- You need someone who is
popular and famous
581
00:25:45,326 --> 00:25:46,936
and wealthy and powerful,
582
00:25:47,067 --> 00:25:50,200
and Donald Trump is
just perfect.
583
00:25:50,331 --> 00:25:52,115
His first appearance,
584
00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:55,075
it is supposed to be
fan appreciation night
585
00:25:55,205 --> 00:25:57,077
and the visage
of Donald J. Trump
586
00:25:57,207 --> 00:25:59,079
appears on the Titantron,
587
00:25:59,209 --> 00:26:02,169
chastising Mr. McMahon.
588
00:26:02,299 --> 00:26:05,085
- The audience really just
doesn't like you.
589
00:26:05,215 --> 00:26:08,088
- And then money is dropped
from the rafters
590
00:26:08,218 --> 00:26:09,916
of the arena in Dallas.
591
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:11,308
This is actual currency.
592
00:26:14,137 --> 00:26:15,965
Trump will claim it
was his money.
593
00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:18,315
In reality,
this was WWE money
594
00:26:18,446 --> 00:26:20,535
that had been earmarked
for this event,
595
00:26:20,666 --> 00:26:23,233
and all of this is then
going to lead up to the point
596
00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:26,106
where they decide that
they need to resolve this feud
597
00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:27,586
that has developed
between them.
598
00:26:27,716 --> 00:26:29,544
- Donald Trump is gonna be
in my world,
599
00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:32,373
and when you're in
my world, I rule.
600
00:26:32,503 --> 00:26:36,377
[crowd groaning]
601
00:26:36,507 --> 00:26:40,468
- WrestleMania was a perfect
venue for Donald Trump.
602
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,340
It involved most of the major
food groups of his life.
603
00:26:44,864 --> 00:26:49,085
It's a game of enormous
emotions, of trash-talking.
604
00:26:49,216 --> 00:26:51,305
- Well, this is one deal
605
00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:55,526
that Donald Trump is gonna be
really sorry he's gonna sign.
606
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:58,268
- Clear lines
between winners and losers.
607
00:26:58,399 --> 00:27:00,227
The winner gets a trophy;
608
00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:03,099
the loser is damaged,
destroyed.
609
00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:07,190
- Trump and Mr. McMahon agreed
that the loser of the match
610
00:27:07,321 --> 00:27:09,802
will have his head shaven
after the match.
611
00:27:09,932 --> 00:27:14,241
- Two billionaires hell-bent
on shaving the other bald.
612
00:27:14,371 --> 00:27:16,547
- This is a long lived
wrestling storyline,
613
00:27:16,678 --> 00:27:20,160
a Hair vs. Hair match,
a real public humiliation.
614
00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:22,118
[cheering]
615
00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:23,293
- You might have some support
from this audience,
616
00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:25,556
but 95% of them are idiots.
617
00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:28,298
[crowd booing]
618
00:27:28,429 --> 00:27:32,346
- To me, they look like
a very smart group of people.
619
00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:35,131
[cheering]
620
00:27:35,262 --> 00:27:36,611
- These were his people.
621
00:27:36,742 --> 00:27:38,613
Not the glitzy people
of 5th Avenue,
622
00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:41,616
not the social club types
who never took him seriously
623
00:27:41,747 --> 00:27:44,532
but the plain, everyday,
middle class Americans.
624
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:47,404
[cheering]
625
00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:50,016
all: Donald, Donald, Donald!
- [chuckling]
626
00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:51,278
The Donald chant going there.
627
00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:52,671
all: Donald, Donald!
628
00:27:52,801 --> 00:27:56,239
- Trump believed that
he brought to TV
629
00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:59,286
a natural ability
to connect with people
630
00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:02,463
who were less educated,
less wealthy, uh,
631
00:28:02,593 --> 00:28:06,510
people who were perhaps
sneered at by the elites.
632
00:28:08,077 --> 00:28:11,428
He saw himself as someone who
could break through that wall.
633
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:13,256
- Here's a guy,
634
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,650
he's a billionaire living
in a tower on 5th Avenue
635
00:28:15,781 --> 00:28:17,652
adjacent to the Tiffany's
Jewelry Store.
636
00:28:17,783 --> 00:28:20,524
He's meeting middle America
637
00:28:20,655 --> 00:28:22,701
and he's bonding with these
638
00:28:22,831 --> 00:28:25,094
many different types
of people.
639
00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:27,531
- He can talk to anybody,
640
00:28:27,662 --> 00:28:30,709
cab drivers, waiters
and waitresses, doormen.
641
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:34,147
He's a billionaire who's never
lost his Queens roots.
642
00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:36,497
[epic music]
643
00:28:36,627 --> 00:28:39,369
The battle between Donald Trump
and Vince McMahon
644
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:43,852
was fought by actual wrestlers
who did the fight for them.
645
00:28:43,983 --> 00:28:46,768
- Of course, it's all
choreographed and scripted
646
00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:50,206
and as per the method
of Donald Trump
647
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,687
throughout his life,
the fix is in.
648
00:28:52,818 --> 00:28:55,603
- And--whoa!
[explosion]
649
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,258
- What's going on over here?
650
00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:00,782
- When order needs to be
restored in the match,
651
00:29:00,913 --> 00:29:03,263
Donald Trump is going to be
outside the ring
652
00:29:03,393 --> 00:29:06,527
and deliver a clothesline
to Mr. McMahon.
653
00:29:06,657 --> 00:29:08,485
- Hey, look at this!
654
00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:11,184
Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
Oh, my God!
655
00:29:11,314 --> 00:29:13,229
- Much to Mr. McMahon's
consternation,
656
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,665
these were legitimate blows
657
00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:17,320
that Donald Trump
was landing on his head
658
00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:19,758
because Donald Trump hadn't
quite perfected the technique
659
00:29:19,888 --> 00:29:22,717
of fake punches that become
sort of second nature
660
00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:24,284
to actual
professional wrestlers.
661
00:29:24,414 --> 00:29:26,286
- Oh, my God!
662
00:29:26,416 --> 00:29:28,114
Oh! Oh, my God!
663
00:29:28,244 --> 00:29:31,421
[yelling indistinctly]
664
00:29:31,552 --> 00:29:33,554
- And then Trump's guy won.
665
00:29:33,684 --> 00:29:36,296
It was Trump who got to cut
Vince McMahon's hair off,
666
00:29:36,426 --> 00:29:38,124
which he did with great relish.
667
00:29:38,254 --> 00:29:39,734
- [whimpering] No!
668
00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:42,693
- Donald Trump's actually
doing the honors himself.
669
00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:45,566
- Once McMahon
has been humiliated
670
00:29:45,696 --> 00:29:48,395
with his head shaving,
he will flee from the ring.
671
00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:51,746
- I almost have empathy
for Mr. McMahon.
672
00:29:51,877 --> 00:29:54,618
- And then it was time
for Stone Cold Steve Austin
673
00:29:54,749 --> 00:29:56,795
to be part of the show
674
00:29:56,925 --> 00:30:00,668
and Trump is literally facing
off against an actual wrestler.
675
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,539
[cheering]
676
00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:05,194
- Oh, Austin!
Austin stomped the Donald!
677
00:30:05,325 --> 00:30:07,414
- What?
678
00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:08,415
-Even though he's down
on the ground
679
00:30:08,545 --> 00:30:10,634
in a loser position,
680
00:30:10,765 --> 00:30:12,680
not a place Donald Trump would
ever want himself to be...
681
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:14,638
[cheering]
682
00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,380
He has made it with this group.
683
00:30:17,511 --> 00:30:19,469
[cheering]
684
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,732
The crowd's sentiments
have turned
685
00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:24,431
and they're on the side
of the billionaire.
686
00:30:24,561 --> 00:30:26,172
These are his people.
687
00:30:29,653 --> 00:30:31,438
- Do you have a stage persona?
688
00:30:31,568 --> 00:30:33,309
- I don't think of myself
as a performer.
689
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,355
You know what I
think my biggest attribute is?
690
00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,270
I'm a great builder.
691
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,141
I build the great--whether
it's buildings
692
00:30:39,272 --> 00:30:43,319
or golf courses or clubs
or whatever,
693
00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:46,670
I've always said that
I build the best product
694
00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:50,239
and people get that.
695
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:53,373
♪
696
00:30:53,503 --> 00:30:57,638
- He was a living
valuable brand,
697
00:30:57,768 --> 00:31:01,294
but his bankruptcies
have soured the American banks
698
00:31:01,424 --> 00:31:03,470
from lending him
any more money.
699
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,255
- The only major bank that's
left in his corner
700
00:31:06,386 --> 00:31:09,215
is Deutsche Bank,
the biggest bank in Germany,
701
00:31:09,345 --> 00:31:11,260
and there's always
been this question of why.
702
00:31:11,391 --> 00:31:13,306
- Why?
703
00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:16,222
- Um,
I'm not gonna answer that.
704
00:31:16,352 --> 00:31:18,354
- Deutsche Bank,
705
00:31:18,485 --> 00:31:21,444
the number one preferred bank
by Russian oligarchs
706
00:31:21,575 --> 00:31:23,316
for money laundering.
707
00:31:23,446 --> 00:31:26,580
A bank that has spent over
$600 million
708
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:29,670
paying fines for
laundering money for Russians
709
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,413
in Cyprus, in Germany,
and in New York City.
710
00:31:34,849 --> 00:31:38,374
Deutsche Bank financed
the Trump Tower Hotel
711
00:31:38,505 --> 00:31:40,333
in downtown Chicago,
712
00:31:40,463 --> 00:31:42,117
the fourth tallest building
in America.
713
00:31:43,379 --> 00:31:46,165
[suspenseful music]
714
00:31:46,295 --> 00:31:47,644
♪
715
00:31:47,775 --> 00:31:49,733
- And this was
a beautiful relationship
716
00:31:49,864 --> 00:31:55,348
that went wrong in 2008 because
there was a financial crisis.
717
00:31:55,478 --> 00:31:57,263
- Tonight,
the growing housing crisis.
718
00:31:57,393 --> 00:31:58,394
- A huge increase
in foreclosures
719
00:31:58,525 --> 00:32:00,179
across the country.
720
00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:06,185
♪
721
00:32:06,315 --> 00:32:08,622
- Trump was due to repay
$40 million
722
00:32:08,752 --> 00:32:11,712
and, um, he couldn't.
723
00:32:11,842 --> 00:32:14,584
Then Trump did something
very extraordinary:
724
00:32:14,715 --> 00:32:16,499
he sued Deutsche Bank
and said that Deutsche Bank
725
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:19,328
had co-created
the financial crisis
726
00:32:19,459 --> 00:32:23,289
and Deutsche Bank owed him
$3 billion
727
00:32:23,419 --> 00:32:25,378
and he wasn't gonna
pay anything.
728
00:32:25,508 --> 00:32:29,599
And then what happened
was really weird.
729
00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:34,387
The private wealth management
wing of Deutsche Bank,
730
00:32:34,517 --> 00:32:36,345
which deals with
high net worth individuals,
731
00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:40,349
lent money, another 2,
$300 million,
732
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,742
to Donald Trump
to pay off his debt
733
00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:43,657
to the real estate division
734
00:32:43,787 --> 00:32:45,311
that was now refusing
to lend anymore of the money
735
00:32:45,441 --> 00:32:47,530
to Donald Trump.
736
00:32:47,661 --> 00:32:49,532
We've talked
to sources inside the bank
737
00:32:49,663 --> 00:32:51,752
who say they
are bewildered by this,
738
00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:55,669
and they find it suspicious.
739
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,932
They wonder whether actually
the loans to Donald Trump
740
00:32:58,063 --> 00:33:00,587
were underwritten
by third parties,
741
00:33:00,717 --> 00:33:04,678
by external actors by
dot, dot, dot--maybe Russia,
742
00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:06,245
maybe Russian state entities.
743
00:33:08,073 --> 00:33:11,206
Today, the story of
Donald Trump and Russia
744
00:33:11,337 --> 00:33:13,730
is the biggest political story
745
00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:16,385
and possibly scandal
of--of our era.
746
00:33:16,516 --> 00:33:23,392
♪
747
00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:28,267
- What do you make of all this
Russia money and collusion,
748
00:33:28,397 --> 00:33:30,965
and everything?
749
00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:34,186
- Do I think there
was flat-out collusion? No.
750
00:33:34,316 --> 00:33:36,536
But what I do think is--
751
00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:40,409
is that he will use
any advantage he can get.
752
00:33:41,802 --> 00:33:43,369
- I mean,
the big question here is,
753
00:33:43,499 --> 00:33:44,761
what is the relationship
754
00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:46,415
between Donald Trump
and Russia,
755
00:33:46,546 --> 00:33:49,418
particularly with
regard to business?
756
00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:53,509
And when did Trump's love
affair with Russia start?
757
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,337
Actually, way back.
758
00:33:55,468 --> 00:33:57,557
[crowd clamoring]
759
00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:00,255
[suspenseful music]
760
00:34:00,386 --> 00:34:02,301
♪
761
00:34:02,431 --> 00:34:05,347
[yelling]
762
00:34:06,783 --> 00:34:08,306
-Repeating once again
our top story,
763
00:34:08,437 --> 00:34:10,396
Soviet President
Mikhail Gorbachev
764
00:34:10,525 --> 00:34:12,311
has been removed from power.
765
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,530
♪
766
00:34:14,661 --> 00:34:16,663
- I lived in the Soviet
Union when this was happening
767
00:34:16,793 --> 00:34:18,665
and even two months before,
768
00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:21,407
nobody really believed it
would happen.
769
00:34:21,536 --> 00:34:23,974
[crowd clamoring]
770
00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:26,585
- When the Soviet Union
broke up,
771
00:34:26,716 --> 00:34:28,717
there wasn't a lot of time
772
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:33,375
to sort out what property was
going to belong to who.
773
00:34:33,505 --> 00:34:35,899
It was just very often
who was fastest
774
00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:38,250
and who was the most ruthless.
775
00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:40,643
[gunfire]
776
00:34:40,774 --> 00:34:42,906
[crashing]
777
00:34:43,036 --> 00:34:45,561
The kinds of people
who emerge successfully
778
00:34:45,692 --> 00:34:47,520
out of a situation
like that,
779
00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:49,435
those were the people
who quickly rose to power
780
00:34:49,565 --> 00:34:51,263
in the 1990s,
781
00:34:51,393 --> 00:34:52,742
the oligarchs.
782
00:34:52,873 --> 00:34:55,527
[suspenseful music]
783
00:34:55,658 --> 00:34:57,878
- They become so wealthy
so quickly,
784
00:34:58,008 --> 00:34:59,967
they literally
became millionaires,
785
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:02,535
even billionaires,
overnight,
786
00:35:02,665 --> 00:35:04,493
and so what do you do
with that money?
787
00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:06,930
You can't just keep it
in a bank.
788
00:35:07,061 --> 00:35:08,932
Russia is unstable.
789
00:35:09,063 --> 00:35:10,499
You have to start looking
outside of Russia.
790
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:12,675
♪
791
00:35:12,806 --> 00:35:14,503
And that's exactly
what happened.
792
00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:17,332
♪
793
00:35:17,463 --> 00:35:19,639
[upbeat music]
794
00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:21,554
- In the 1990s,
795
00:35:21,684 --> 00:35:23,860
Trump himself and his team
came to realize
796
00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:26,733
we're uniquely positioned
in the world
797
00:35:26,863 --> 00:35:30,519
to profit from this desperate
need of oligarchs
798
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:32,304
to get money out
of their home country.
799
00:35:32,434 --> 00:35:34,523
♪
800
00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:38,658
There's a ton of these
increasingly rich Russian mafia
801
00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:40,834
and new oligarch-type
characters
802
00:35:40,964 --> 00:35:42,836
who are in the New York area
803
00:35:42,966 --> 00:35:44,881
and are amassing wealth
through their connections
804
00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:46,709
to the collapsed Soviet Union
805
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,321
and--and the corrupt
oligarch economy.
806
00:35:50,626 --> 00:35:52,628
And he's really pursuing them.
807
00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:54,891
You know, he's putting on
these Russian music shows
808
00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:56,763
at his casinos,
809
00:35:56,893 --> 00:35:59,548
he's going around
letting it be known
810
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,028
that anyone can live
in Trump Tower.
811
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,638
We won't even ask
who you are.
812
00:36:02,769 --> 00:36:05,163
We won't ask
a single question.
813
00:36:05,293 --> 00:36:08,470
- Donald Trump offered
a very, very special amenity.
814
00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:11,517
He allowed you to buy
anonymously,
815
00:36:11,647 --> 00:36:13,519
through shell companies,
without using your name
816
00:36:13,649 --> 00:36:15,825
in all-cash purchases.
817
00:36:15,956 --> 00:36:19,786
He was one of the very first
real estate people to do this.
818
00:36:19,916 --> 00:36:21,788
-And Trump is not
the only guy doing this,
819
00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:24,486
but he's certainly
the most prominent,
820
00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:26,053
the biggest name doing this,
821
00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,577
and doing this
very aggressively.
822
00:36:28,708 --> 00:36:30,579
♪
823
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:31,928
-I know the Russians
better than anybody,
824
00:36:32,059 --> 00:36:34,017
sold many apartments
to Russians.
825
00:36:34,148 --> 00:36:35,802
How many people are gonna buy
$20 million apartments?
826
00:36:35,932 --> 00:36:37,630
- It's a very,
very limited market.
827
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,893
- So I'm sitting back
and watching.
828
00:36:40,023 --> 00:36:43,766
- He looked to Russia as a
source, not in a sinister way--
829
00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:46,116
he saw that as market
development.
830
00:36:46,247 --> 00:36:48,989
And then,
like all things Trump,
831
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,557
it grows bigger
than it was intended.
832
00:36:51,687 --> 00:36:53,123
He--he can never say no.
833
00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:55,038
He never leaves anything
on his plate,
834
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:56,649
and he'll eat off yours.
835
00:36:58,781 --> 00:37:02,132
- In 2007, Trump was able
to strike a deal
836
00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:06,528
with an American company
owned by former Russians
837
00:37:07,921 --> 00:37:10,010
that were gonna build
a condominium hotel
838
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:13,100
in New York down in SoHo.
839
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,841
- During an episode
of "The Apprentice,"
840
00:37:14,971 --> 00:37:17,931
Trump held out an internship
at the Trump SoHo
841
00:37:18,061 --> 00:37:20,063
as the prize for one
of the show's winners.
842
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:22,588
- The other project
is in New York City's
843
00:37:22,718 --> 00:37:24,938
trendiest neighborhood: SoHo.
844
00:37:25,068 --> 00:37:27,897
When it's completed in 2008,
845
00:37:28,028 --> 00:37:32,032
the Trump SoHo, the new $370
million work of art,
846
00:37:32,162 --> 00:37:34,382
will be an awe-inspiring
masterpiece.
847
00:37:34,513 --> 00:37:37,646
[cheering]
848
00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:39,866
[drilling]
849
00:37:42,738 --> 00:37:44,914
- In the midst
of construction,
850
00:37:45,045 --> 00:37:48,788
I get a phone call,
and it's from a Deep Throat,
851
00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:50,833
somebody that wouldn't
identify themselves.
852
00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:56,926
And they started talking to me
about a--a young man
853
00:37:57,057 --> 00:37:59,886
that was involved with
Donald Trump in this project,
854
00:38:00,016 --> 00:38:01,583
Trump SoHo.
855
00:38:02,932 --> 00:38:05,544
His name was Felix Sater.
856
00:38:05,674 --> 00:38:07,676
♪
857
00:38:07,807 --> 00:38:09,069
- Felix Sater's one
of the most interesting guys
858
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:11,071
I've ever met.
859
00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:13,595
You can make a half dozen
Hollywood movies about him.
860
00:38:13,726 --> 00:38:17,860
- It turns out that Felix Sater
had a record.
861
00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:19,688
- He had gone to jail
862
00:38:19,819 --> 00:38:21,168
for taking
a broken margarita glass
863
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:24,867
and grounding it into the face
of someone at a bar.
864
00:38:24,998 --> 00:38:27,696
Uh, he ended up needing about
100 stitches in his face.
865
00:38:27,827 --> 00:38:30,873
Felix did some jail time
for that.
866
00:38:31,004 --> 00:38:32,701
After he got out of jail,
867
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,138
he and a group of Italian
and Russian mobsters
868
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:39,055
ran an investment scam
that took $40 million
869
00:38:39,186 --> 00:38:41,928
or so from unsuspecting
senior citizens.
870
00:38:42,058 --> 00:38:44,147
- Pumping up prices
of small stocks,
871
00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:47,107
then dumping them
on unsuspecting investors.
872
00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:48,978
- They're defrauding hundreds
of innocent victims.
873
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:50,893
[camera shutter clicking]
[crowd clamoring]
874
00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:55,898
- And when they were busted,
he worked out a deal
875
00:38:56,029 --> 00:38:59,293
where he would become
a federal cooperator
876
00:38:59,424 --> 00:39:02,165
and he ratted out others
around him.
877
00:39:02,296 --> 00:39:04,646
-And instead of going
to jail, he goes to Bayrock.
878
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,304
Bayrock is a real estate
company in Trump Tower.
879
00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:14,047
-Sater has this sort
of cloud over him,
880
00:39:14,177 --> 00:39:17,703
and one day he goes up
to Donald Trump's office,
881
00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:20,793
says to the receptionist,
"I have a real estate deal
882
00:39:20,923 --> 00:39:22,055
I want to talk
to Donald Trump about."
883
00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:25,101
And he said within minutes,
884
00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:26,973
he's sitting
in Donald Trump's office.
885
00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:29,889
- I basically, um,
knocked on his door,
886
00:39:30,019 --> 00:39:31,978
said, uh, I think
we should become partners,
887
00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:33,806
I have great real estate deals,
888
00:39:33,936 --> 00:39:35,068
I'm gonna be
a very successful developer
889
00:39:35,198 --> 00:39:36,896
and you want to work with me.
890
00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:38,637
- That's a very Trumpian move.
- Um, I don't know.
891
00:39:38,767 --> 00:39:40,160
I think it was
a very Felixian move.
892
00:39:40,290 --> 00:39:42,118
- Did you guys get along?
- Yes.
893
00:39:42,249 --> 00:39:44,164
- It was one big happy family.
894
00:39:44,294 --> 00:39:47,646
They were going to be doing
a string of deals.
895
00:39:47,776 --> 00:39:48,951
[applause]
896
00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:50,997
- Thank you very much
to Bayrock.
897
00:39:51,127 --> 00:39:55,697
The Trump SoHo is
a very, very special building.
898
00:39:55,828 --> 00:39:58,221
So we're honored by
the partnership
899
00:39:58,352 --> 00:40:00,963
and it's always really nice
to have my children
900
00:40:01,094 --> 00:40:02,661
working on a building
with me.
901
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,793
[applause]
902
00:40:06,969 --> 00:40:08,710
- As I learned about
his background
903
00:40:08,841 --> 00:40:10,364
and could document it,
904
00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:13,323
I came to realize that
everything my anonymous caller
905
00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:15,848
was telling me
was actually true.
906
00:40:15,978 --> 00:40:21,114
I was flabbergasted that
Mr. Trump was not careful
907
00:40:21,244 --> 00:40:23,551
about who he got
into bed with.
908
00:40:23,682 --> 00:40:26,598
[applause]
909
00:40:28,382 --> 00:40:31,211
- Bayrock has quite a crew,
and they have ties
910
00:40:31,341 --> 00:40:34,606
in one way or another
to either the KGB
911
00:40:34,736 --> 00:40:36,869
or the Russian mafia.
912
00:40:36,999 --> 00:40:39,001
In Bayrock, you see money
laundering happening
913
00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:41,177
in two ways.
914
00:40:41,308 --> 00:40:44,180
It's not just the sale
of individual condominiums,
915
00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:47,140
but you also see money
coming in to finance
916
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:49,708
the actual development
from Russian Mafia as well.
917
00:40:49,838 --> 00:40:53,015
♪
918
00:40:53,146 --> 00:40:55,365
- I came on Felix Sater
919
00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:57,716
before anybody
had ever heard of him
920
00:40:57,846 --> 00:41:00,109
and I expected that my story
921
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,198
would blow up
their relationship,
922
00:41:02,329 --> 00:41:04,200
that they would be
so embarrassed.
923
00:41:04,331 --> 00:41:06,246
You know, what happens
to your brand
924
00:41:06,376 --> 00:41:09,728
when you become sullied
by, uh, criminals?
925
00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:11,207
♪
926
00:41:11,338 --> 00:41:14,210
But it didn't seem
to phase them.
927
00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:17,649
In fact,
their relationship continued.
928
00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:22,262
♪
929
00:41:22,392 --> 00:41:26,135
- Bagli's piece was like
an earthquake inside Bayrock
930
00:41:26,266 --> 00:41:27,920
and the Trump organization
931
00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,052
and there was a lot
of scrambling going on.
932
00:41:30,183 --> 00:41:33,882
- But the Trump organization
wanted to portray Trump SoHo
933
00:41:34,013 --> 00:41:35,971
as a successful venture,
934
00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:39,888
so Ivanka was quoted saying,
"The bulk of the apartments
935
00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:41,934
in the building had been sold,"
936
00:41:42,064 --> 00:41:43,936
when, in fact,
they hadn't been.
937
00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:49,985
- Lying about that is
a real violation.
938
00:41:50,116 --> 00:41:52,901
It means that you are conning
people out of their money.
939
00:41:53,032 --> 00:41:55,817
- The Manhattan district
attorney, uh, launched a probe.
940
00:41:57,602 --> 00:42:00,169
But the Trump organization
made a deal
941
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:03,390
with the condo buyers,
who had sued,
942
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:06,393
that virtually all the money
would be returned
943
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,395
as long as
they didn't cooperate
944
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,702
with the Manhattan DA's office.
945
00:42:13,052 --> 00:42:15,054
- Ultimately,
the building's a failure,
946
00:42:15,184 --> 00:42:17,709
and it's sold off in auction
to another real estate company.
947
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:20,407
♪
948
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,976
-I really look at Trump SoHo
as a transitional project.
949
00:42:25,455 --> 00:42:28,894
It opens
this new chapter overseas
950
00:42:29,024 --> 00:42:32,071
in which Trump
and the Trump organization
951
00:42:32,201 --> 00:42:34,029
did a lot of business
952
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,380
with a lot of very questionable
figures around the world.
953
00:42:37,511 --> 00:42:40,993
Selling the Trump name
as a brand on a hotel
954
00:42:41,123 --> 00:42:43,386
or a residence
or an office tower
955
00:42:43,517 --> 00:42:45,998
is the chapter we actually
know the least about,
956
00:42:46,128 --> 00:42:48,130
but it's the
most important chapter.
957
00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:53,571
[cheering]
958
00:42:54,746 --> 00:42:57,575
[dramatic music]
959
00:42:57,705 --> 00:43:00,142
♪
960
00:43:00,273 --> 00:43:02,623
- Our current president
came out of nowhere,
961
00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:04,799
came out of nowhere.
962
00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:06,061
In fact,
I'll go a step further.
963
00:43:06,192 --> 00:43:07,846
The people that went
to school with him,
964
00:43:07,976 --> 00:43:08,803
they don't even know--
they never saw him,
965
00:43:08,934 --> 00:43:10,065
they don't know who he is.
966
00:43:10,196 --> 00:43:12,285
Crazy!
967
00:43:12,415 --> 00:43:14,983
- There is a meme out there,
a narrative,
968
00:43:15,114 --> 00:43:18,160
that I sold Donald Trump
on birtherism.
969
00:43:18,291 --> 00:43:21,120
Nobody sells Donald Trump
on anything.
970
00:43:21,250 --> 00:43:24,297
- Nobody knew who the hell
he was.
971
00:43:24,427 --> 00:43:27,082
He's now our president,
he's our president.
972
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:29,781
- Donald Trump chooses
what he will say
973
00:43:29,911 --> 00:43:31,217
and when he will say it.
974
00:43:31,347 --> 00:43:33,872
Donald Trump became
interested in the question
975
00:43:34,002 --> 00:43:36,875
and circumstances
of Barack Obama's birth,
976
00:43:37,005 --> 00:43:38,964
and he decided
to talk about it.
977
00:43:39,094 --> 00:43:40,922
- Nobody trusts Obama.
978
00:43:41,053 --> 00:43:42,881
There's nothing
to trust about Obama.
979
00:43:43,011 --> 00:43:45,057
If you look at
his last few years,
980
00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:47,189
everything's a lie,
his background is a lie.
981
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,930
I mean, there's so much about
him that's a lie,
982
00:43:49,061 --> 00:43:50,149
it's incredible.
983
00:43:50,279 --> 00:43:53,282
[upbeat music]
984
00:43:53,413 --> 00:43:57,983
- Donald always needs a foil.
He needs someone to attack,
985
00:43:58,113 --> 00:44:01,247
and as you watch his career
from the earliest time
986
00:44:01,377 --> 00:44:04,163
until now,
there is always an adversary.
987
00:44:04,293 --> 00:44:06,165
- I wouldn't mind
forgetting the issue,
988
00:44:06,295 --> 00:44:07,819
but I'd like him to show that
he has a birth certificate
989
00:44:07,949 --> 00:44:09,255
because a certificate
of birth,
990
00:44:09,385 --> 00:44:11,300
you can get it with
a telephone call.
991
00:44:11,431 --> 00:44:14,434
- There is always somebody
that he can punch, call names,
992
00:44:14,564 --> 00:44:17,350
vilify, uh, because he thinks
that by doing that,
993
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,179
he escalates his own persona.
994
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:23,878
- Donald Trump has never been
afraid to say what he thought.
995
00:44:24,009 --> 00:44:26,838
He almost embraces that
he's willing to say things
996
00:44:26,968 --> 00:44:30,015
that are off limits
to most people.
997
00:44:30,145 --> 00:44:33,671
I think he thinks that's part
of the fascination with him,
998
00:44:33,801 --> 00:44:35,934
part of his appeal.
999
00:44:36,064 --> 00:44:37,065
- I want him to show
his birth certificate.
1000
00:44:37,196 --> 00:44:38,980
- Why?
1001
00:44:39,111 --> 00:44:40,112
- There's something
on that birth certificate
1002
00:44:40,242 --> 00:44:41,983
that he doesn't like.
1003
00:44:42,114 --> 00:44:43,681
- Oh, my God, that is just
the worst thing...
1004
00:44:43,811 --> 00:44:45,030
[indistinct chattering]
1005
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,031
- Darling, I love you.
I'm telling you.
1006
00:44:46,161 --> 00:44:48,207
- Donald, I love you too.
1007
00:44:48,337 --> 00:44:51,297
I think that's the biggest pile
of dog mess I've heard in ages.
1008
00:44:51,427 --> 00:44:54,126
[light suspenseful music]
1009
00:44:54,256 --> 00:44:56,258
- Donald Trump
isn't the first person,
1010
00:44:56,389 --> 00:44:59,044
but he is by far
the most famous person
1011
00:44:59,174 --> 00:45:02,308
who launches birtherism attacks
1012
00:45:02,438 --> 00:45:06,965
and then becomes
the most sustained birther
1013
00:45:07,095 --> 00:45:11,230
in America holding out
on it for years.
1014
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,189
- The fact is that we have not
seen his birth certificate.
1015
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,279
He, I assume, I would hope
he has a birth certificate,
1016
00:45:17,410 --> 00:45:19,151
I'm sure you do,
I know I do.
1017
00:45:19,281 --> 00:45:22,241
It's all very important
for one reason:
1018
00:45:22,371 --> 00:45:24,025
if you're not born
in this country,
1019
00:45:24,156 --> 00:45:26,245
you can't be President.
1020
00:45:26,375 --> 00:45:28,116
- But you've never seen George
W. Bush's birth certificate,
1021
00:45:28,247 --> 00:45:29,944
have you?
1022
00:45:30,075 --> 00:45:31,859
- No, I haven't
but I'm sure he has one.
1023
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:34,253
- So it's really about calling
in question the legitimacy
1024
00:45:34,383 --> 00:45:37,430
and the validity of America's
first black president.
1025
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,911
- I did believe then,
as I believe now,
1026
00:45:40,041 --> 00:45:42,914
that it did reflect, uh,
1027
00:45:43,044 --> 00:45:45,046
a very substantial
body of thinking
1028
00:45:45,177 --> 00:45:47,353
on the American right.
1029
00:45:47,483 --> 00:45:51,836
In a free society, you're
allowed to think what you want.
1030
00:45:51,966 --> 00:45:54,360
- It's a page out of
the Roy Cohn playbook--
1031
00:45:54,490 --> 00:45:57,276
the creation of doubt
in people's minds.
1032
00:45:57,406 --> 00:46:01,410
- I mean, in Hawaii...
- Absolutely.
1033
00:46:01,541 --> 00:46:03,021
And they cannot believe
what they're finding.
1034
00:46:03,151 --> 00:46:04,892
I've been told
very recently, Anderson,
1035
00:46:05,023 --> 00:46:06,807
that the birth certificate
is missing.
1036
00:46:06,938 --> 00:46:07,939
I've been told that
it's not there
1037
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:09,114
and it doesn't exist.
1038
00:46:09,244 --> 00:46:10,855
- What have they found?
1039
00:46:10,985 --> 00:46:11,899
- That's none of your business
right now.
1040
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:13,031
We're gonna see what happens.
1041
00:46:13,161 --> 00:46:14,119
- Have they found anything?
1042
00:46:14,249 --> 00:46:16,251
- We're gonna see what happens.
1043
00:46:16,382 --> 00:46:20,778
- He understands that politics
isn't all about issues,
1044
00:46:20,908 --> 00:46:24,259
isn't always about legislation.
1045
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:27,175
A lot of it is cultural.
1046
00:46:27,306 --> 00:46:29,308
- I've had a lot of friends
of mine
1047
00:46:29,438 --> 00:46:31,353
that are very conservative,
on the conservative side, say,
1048
00:46:31,484 --> 00:46:33,138
"Ah, skip that issue,
Donald,
1049
00:46:33,268 --> 00:46:34,966
it's not a good issue
for you, skip it."
1050
00:46:35,096 --> 00:46:38,099
And I say, "Why is that
not a good issue?"
1051
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:40,319
- For a long time,
President Obama tried to ignore
1052
00:46:40,449 --> 00:46:42,190
the birther discussion,
1053
00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:43,452
maybe thinking it
was beneath contempt--
1054
00:46:43,583 --> 00:46:45,367
certainly beneath
the notice
1055
00:46:45,498 --> 00:46:47,326
of a President
of the United States.
1056
00:46:47,456 --> 00:46:49,197
- And just to be clear, I know
where my birth certificate is,
1057
00:46:49,328 --> 00:46:50,764
but a lot of people don't.
1058
00:46:50,895 --> 00:46:52,505
[crowd laughing]
1059
00:46:52,635 --> 00:46:55,290
- But it became apparent that
this was catching on
1060
00:46:55,421 --> 00:46:57,771
to such an extent,
that it needed to be addressed.
1061
00:46:57,902 --> 00:47:00,861
[epic music]
1062
00:47:00,992 --> 00:47:03,255
♪
1063
00:47:03,385 --> 00:47:04,952
- The White House
Correspondents' Dinner
1064
00:47:05,083 --> 00:47:07,085
is this strange ritual.
1065
00:47:07,215 --> 00:47:09,522
All of the White House
journalists come
1066
00:47:09,652 --> 00:47:12,960
and they bring, usually,
celebrity guests
1067
00:47:13,091 --> 00:47:15,223
and then the President
tells a lot of jokes.
1068
00:47:15,354 --> 00:47:17,269
There were a bunch of people
who pitched jokes.
1069
00:47:17,399 --> 00:47:19,227
I was one of those people.
1070
00:47:19,358 --> 00:47:20,968
President Obama was kind
of pushing us to, like,
1071
00:47:21,099 --> 00:47:22,578
be a little sharper,
be a little edgier,
1072
00:47:22,709 --> 00:47:25,538
and there was this kind
of open question of,
1073
00:47:25,668 --> 00:47:27,322
how are we gonna address
the elephant in the room
1074
00:47:27,453 --> 00:47:29,585
where the elephant in the room
is Donald Trump?
1075
00:47:29,716 --> 00:47:33,285
- This was going right into
the heart of the beast.
1076
00:47:33,415 --> 00:47:37,115
These are the political
and media elites
1077
00:47:37,245 --> 00:47:41,380
who never took his potential
candidacy seriously
1078
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:44,122
and therefore I would not
have recommended
1079
00:47:44,252 --> 00:47:47,299
the White House
Correspondents' dinner.
1080
00:47:47,429 --> 00:47:51,433
- Everyone in the room
was waiting for,
1081
00:47:51,564 --> 00:47:54,175
when does Obama
get to Trump?
1082
00:47:54,306 --> 00:47:58,179
That was really the big
pregame suspense of the night,
1083
00:47:58,310 --> 00:48:00,878
and it had been the pregame
suspense of the night,
1084
00:48:01,008 --> 00:48:02,357
at that point,
for weeks.
1085
00:48:04,316 --> 00:48:07,406
- My fellow Americans.
1086
00:48:07,536 --> 00:48:11,497
[cheering]
1087
00:48:11,627 --> 00:48:15,196
- He started making jokes
about Donald Trump.
1088
00:48:15,327 --> 00:48:18,373
- No one is prouder to put
this birth certificate matter
1089
00:48:18,504 --> 00:48:20,419
to rest than the Donald.
1090
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:23,465
[laughing]
1091
00:48:23,596 --> 00:48:25,337
- And the crowd started
laughing more and more.
1092
00:48:25,467 --> 00:48:28,296
- And that's because he can
finally get back to focusing
1093
00:48:28,427 --> 00:48:30,081
on the issues that matter.
1094
00:48:30,211 --> 00:48:34,085
Like, did we fake
the moon landing,
1095
00:48:34,215 --> 00:48:36,130
and where are Biggie
and Tupac?
1096
00:48:36,261 --> 00:48:39,133
[laughing]
1097
00:48:39,264 --> 00:48:41,396
- I was sitting behind Trump
that evening,
1098
00:48:41,527 --> 00:48:46,445
and I watched his neck go from
pale shrimp to deep beetroot
1099
00:48:46,575 --> 00:48:50,884
as he listened to Obama,
very wittily and coolly,
1100
00:48:51,015 --> 00:48:52,059
making fun of him.
1101
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:55,236
- He was relentless.
1102
00:48:55,367 --> 00:48:57,456
- What you had was this kind
of sea of laughter
1103
00:48:57,586 --> 00:49:00,372
and then this just pure island
of rage in the middle of it.
1104
00:49:00,502 --> 00:49:02,983
- It was the night
of Barack Obama's revenge.
1105
00:49:03,114 --> 00:49:05,159
[applause]
1106
00:49:05,290 --> 00:49:07,509
[laughing]
1107
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,599
- Donald Trump wanted to be
taken seriously,
1108
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:14,473
and this was an effort by
the president,
1109
00:49:14,603 --> 00:49:16,170
and to a certain degree,
I think,
1110
00:49:16,301 --> 00:49:17,693
the Washington establishment
to say,
1111
00:49:17,824 --> 00:49:21,480
"Hey, look, New York
and tabloids are one thing.
1112
00:49:21,610 --> 00:49:23,395
"This is the big leagues.
1113
00:49:23,525 --> 00:49:25,919
Go back home."
1114
00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:27,573
- Donald Trump left
1115
00:49:27,703 --> 00:49:30,706
the White House
Correspondents' dinner early.
1116
00:49:30,837 --> 00:49:34,101
I don't think he decided
in the car that he was going
1117
00:49:34,232 --> 00:49:36,277
to run for president
and win.
1118
00:49:36,408 --> 00:49:39,628
I think he decided
as he rose from his seat.
1119
00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:41,500
- And I sort of imagined
in the back of his mind,
1120
00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:43,328
it was like Norma Desmond.
1121
00:49:43,458 --> 00:49:46,070
- Those imbeciles.
Haven't they got any eyes?
1122
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,028
Have they forgotten
what a star looks like?
1123
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:50,030
- Do they think
I'm a has-been?
1124
00:49:50,161 --> 00:49:51,423
- I'll show them.
1125
00:49:51,553 --> 00:49:53,033
I'll be up there again,
so help me.
1126
00:49:53,164 --> 00:49:54,513
- I'll show them
what a star is.
1127
00:49:54,643 --> 00:49:56,428
[laughing, applause]
1128
00:49:56,558 --> 00:49:58,604
- You remember
the famous interview,
1129
00:49:58,734 --> 00:50:02,303
when Obama was asked,
"Donald Trump says,
1130
00:50:02,434 --> 00:50:04,479
'You're the worst president
in American history.'"
1131
00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:06,264
What's your reaction?"
1132
00:50:06,394 --> 00:50:09,049
- At least I will
go down as a President.
1133
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:12,270
[cheering]
1134
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,228
- Who got the last laugh
on that one?
1135
00:50:14,359 --> 00:50:15,577
[dramatic tone]
1136
00:50:20,104 --> 00:50:21,801
- So, you are running
for the Republican nomination
1137
00:50:21,931 --> 00:50:23,281
if you run?
- Yes.
1138
00:50:23,411 --> 00:50:24,934
- Okay, you--you described
yourself politically
1139
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:26,893
as a conservative?
1140
00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:28,460
- I am a very conservative
person.
1141
00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:30,114
- Very conservative person,
but recently you said--
1142
00:50:30,244 --> 00:50:31,985
- With a big heart.
1143
00:50:32,116 --> 00:50:33,465
I'd like to say I'm
conservative with a big heart.
1144
00:50:33,595 --> 00:50:37,121
- He was always amused by
those in the mainstream media
1145
00:50:37,251 --> 00:50:40,385
who kept insisting
that running for president
1146
00:50:40,515 --> 00:50:44,911
was all a publicity stunt
to burnish the Trump brand.
1147
00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:46,956
Uh, that he's never really
gonna run.
1148
00:50:47,087 --> 00:50:48,175
- Well, I think I have
a lot of experience.
1149
00:50:48,306 --> 00:50:49,916
More than most people--
1150
00:50:50,047 --> 00:50:52,005
certainly more than
most candidates.
1151
00:50:52,136 --> 00:50:57,228
- In 2012, I think he came
very, very close to running,
1152
00:50:57,358 --> 00:51:00,361
but he ultimately decided not
to make that race,
1153
00:51:00,492 --> 00:51:02,363
I think,
largely based on the fact
1154
00:51:02,494 --> 00:51:05,149
that Obama was an incumbent.
1155
00:51:05,279 --> 00:51:08,108
[cheering]
1156
00:51:11,894 --> 00:51:14,419
- Thank you.
1157
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:16,943
I have just called
President Obama
1158
00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:20,120
to congratulate him
on his victory.
1159
00:51:20,251 --> 00:51:22,992
- I think that Donald Trump
was very disappointed
1160
00:51:23,123 --> 00:51:24,994
when Mitt Romney lost.
1161
00:51:27,214 --> 00:51:30,087
I think he immediately
regretted not running himself.
1162
00:51:30,217 --> 00:51:33,394
- God bless these
United States.
1163
00:51:33,525 --> 00:51:36,441
- He did tell me that right
after the election,
1164
00:51:36,571 --> 00:51:41,489
he had trademarked the phrase
Make America Great Again.
1165
00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:46,973
To me this was a sign
of his seriousness.
1166
00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:49,018
I gave an interview
very early
1167
00:51:49,149 --> 00:51:51,282
in which I said,
in an off-handed manner,
1168
00:51:51,412 --> 00:51:54,067
well, I thought he should run
in 2016
1169
00:51:54,198 --> 00:51:56,374
because it would probably be
his last chance
1170
00:51:56,504 --> 00:51:58,115
given his age.
1171
00:51:58,245 --> 00:52:02,293
Boy, he chewed my ass
about that.
1172
00:52:02,423 --> 00:52:04,425
- I'm Donald Trump
1173
00:52:04,556 --> 00:52:06,340
and this is the most important
pageant in the world,
1174
00:52:06,471 --> 00:52:09,387
and I should know
because I own it.
1175
00:52:09,517 --> 00:52:11,519
[upbeat music]
1176
00:52:11,650 --> 00:52:13,217
- Donald Trump had always
loved the idea
1177
00:52:13,347 --> 00:52:15,393
of beauty pageants
in his Atlantic City days
1178
00:52:15,523 --> 00:52:17,438
running casinos.
1179
00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:21,181
In 1996, along came
an opportunity to buy
1180
00:52:21,312 --> 00:52:23,183
the Miss Universe Pageant.
1181
00:52:23,314 --> 00:52:25,054
A better match could not
have been made.
1182
00:52:25,185 --> 00:52:26,230
- Look this way, Lisa.
1183
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,319
♪
1184
00:52:28,449 --> 00:52:31,278
- He was very excited that
he had a business
1185
00:52:31,409 --> 00:52:35,108
that would keep him in touch
with very young women.
1186
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,545
- He had felt the pageants
had started to emphasize
1187
00:52:37,676 --> 00:52:40,200
women's minds
and abilities too much
1188
00:52:40,331 --> 00:52:42,071
and what he said to me is,
1189
00:52:42,202 --> 00:52:43,508
"Nobody wants to watch
one of these things
1190
00:52:43,638 --> 00:52:45,379
"and see a girl playing
a violin.
1191
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:48,252
They just want to know what
she looks like."
1192
00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:50,558
He wanted to get it back
to its roots.
1193
00:52:50,689 --> 00:52:53,126
[camera shutter clicking]
[crowd clamoring]
1194
00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:55,433
- Donald Trump saw
in the ability to own
1195
00:52:55,563 --> 00:52:57,478
the Miss Universe Pageant
not only a chance
1196
00:52:57,609 --> 00:52:59,524
to hang out backstage,
1197
00:52:59,654 --> 00:53:02,440
but also, this was a way
for Donald Trump
1198
00:53:02,570 --> 00:53:04,964
to get the Trump name
and brand spread
1199
00:53:05,094 --> 00:53:07,314
to many more countries.
1200
00:53:07,445 --> 00:53:10,143
- I have a name that's
the hottest name in the world.
1201
00:53:10,274 --> 00:53:11,927
When I'm doing deals,
I'm buying this one,
1202
00:53:12,058 --> 00:53:13,625
I'm buying that one.
1203
00:53:13,755 --> 00:53:16,105
They really want Trump,
'cause Trump is a hot name.
1204
00:53:16,236 --> 00:53:17,585
It's the hottest name
in the world.
1205
00:53:17,716 --> 00:53:21,546
- Donald Trump was
an empire builder.
1206
00:53:21,676 --> 00:53:24,418
He was 1,000% committed
1207
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:27,465
to the accumulation
of wealth and power.
1208
00:53:27,595 --> 00:53:31,120
This was the lesson that
he was taught as a child:
1209
00:53:31,251 --> 00:53:34,298
you never stop pushing,
you never stop building.
1210
00:53:34,428 --> 00:53:37,126
[crowd clamoring]
1211
00:53:37,257 --> 00:53:40,173
♪
1212
00:53:40,304 --> 00:53:43,176
- At that time, the Trump
Organization is doing business
1213
00:53:43,307 --> 00:53:47,136
with players in countries
all over the world.
1214
00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:49,400
♪
1215
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:51,358
- Trump comes up with
this new model that--
1216
00:53:51,489 --> 00:53:53,578
it's almost amazing
it took him so long to find it
1217
00:53:53,708 --> 00:53:56,581
because it's so perfect
for who he is,
1218
00:53:56,711 --> 00:53:59,105
this model
of just selling his name
1219
00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:00,541
and putting his name
on a project
1220
00:54:00,672 --> 00:54:03,370
and Trump always had
1221
00:54:03,501 --> 00:54:06,634
a group of would-be
deal-makers around him.
1222
00:54:06,765 --> 00:54:10,377
These often
were people with shady pasts.
1223
00:54:10,508 --> 00:54:12,118
- Donald Trump ended up
in Baku,
1224
00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:14,163
the capital of Azerbaijan,
1225
00:54:14,294 --> 00:54:16,383
where he had business
connections with
1226
00:54:16,514 --> 00:54:20,387
another billionaire developer,
a guy named Anar Mammadov.
1227
00:54:21,954 --> 00:54:26,480
- The Mammadov family was seen
as unbelievably corrupt
1228
00:54:26,611 --> 00:54:28,569
and corrupt even
for Azerbaijan,
1229
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:30,745
which is
a very corrupt country.
1230
00:54:30,876 --> 00:54:33,705
They were in business
with a company that was
1231
00:54:33,835 --> 00:54:37,361
almost, without question,
nothing more than a front
1232
00:54:37,491 --> 00:54:40,015
for Iran's
Islamic Revolutionary Guard...
1233
00:54:40,146 --> 00:54:42,540
[men chanting]
1234
00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:46,631
Which had created
a global financial network
1235
00:54:46,761 --> 00:54:51,375
to fund terrorism, to acquire
weapons of mass destruction--
1236
00:54:51,505 --> 00:54:54,595
true bad actors.
1237
00:54:54,726 --> 00:54:56,771
- Anyone who's done business
with Donald Trump
1238
00:54:56,902 --> 00:54:59,513
knows that all you have to do
is walk into the office
1239
00:54:59,644 --> 00:55:01,646
with a bag of cash
and drop it on his desk,
1240
00:55:01,776 --> 00:55:03,691
and he'll do business
with you.
1241
00:55:03,822 --> 00:55:07,086
If the money's there,
he'll go for it.
1242
00:55:07,216 --> 00:55:09,262
He doesn't do due diligence.
1243
00:55:09,393 --> 00:55:12,221
[suspenseful music]
1244
00:55:12,352 --> 00:55:17,531
♪
1245
00:55:17,662 --> 00:55:20,534
[applause]
1246
00:55:22,362 --> 00:55:24,190
- In June of 2013,
1247
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:26,540
Trump announced
that he was gonna hold
1248
00:55:26,671 --> 00:55:29,500
the Miss Universe contest
in Moscow.
1249
00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:32,285
- And really,
we wanted Moscow all the way
1250
00:55:32,416 --> 00:55:34,766
and part of
the reason we want it is
1251
00:55:34,896 --> 00:55:39,161
one of the great families
in Russia is our partner
1252
00:55:39,292 --> 00:55:40,728
in this endeavor.
1253
00:55:40,859 --> 00:55:43,427
- He's paid by
a Russian oligarch,
1254
00:55:43,557 --> 00:55:47,474
Aras Agalarov, to bring
this contest to Moscow.
1255
00:55:47,605 --> 00:55:49,215
It's lucrative.
1256
00:55:56,701 --> 00:55:59,530
- It's going to be amazing.
1257
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:02,359
- Aras Agalarov was
a builder,
1258
00:56:02,489 --> 00:56:04,317
he was known
as Putin's builder
1259
00:56:04,448 --> 00:56:06,450
because he had built
so many projects for Putin
1260
00:56:06,580 --> 00:56:08,452
and the Russian state.
1261
00:56:08,582 --> 00:56:11,803
- The Agalarovs are
a huge step up for Trump.
1262
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:15,546
He had been in this frenzy
from 2010, '11, '12,
1263
00:56:15,676 --> 00:56:18,462
just doing business with
a whole bunch of characters
1264
00:56:18,592 --> 00:56:20,377
all over the former
Soviet Union,
1265
00:56:20,507 --> 00:56:22,727
but these are third tier
characters
1266
00:56:22,857 --> 00:56:24,381
and third tier countries,
1267
00:56:24,511 --> 00:56:27,340
and Moscow is a huge step up.
1268
00:56:27,471 --> 00:56:30,387
♪
1269
00:56:32,432 --> 00:56:34,695
- Moscow was, by 2013,
1270
00:56:34,826 --> 00:56:37,698
one of the most expensive
cities in the world
1271
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:39,352
and Moscow real estate
1272
00:56:39,483 --> 00:56:42,573
had become this hot,
hot market.
1273
00:56:42,703 --> 00:56:45,532
- If you talk to people in the
Miss Universe Organization,
1274
00:56:45,663 --> 00:56:49,623
they will tell you that
holding the contest in Moscow
1275
00:56:49,754 --> 00:56:52,365
was really not
the prime objective.
1276
00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:54,628
It was to open a pathway
1277
00:56:54,759 --> 00:56:57,501
to building a Trump Tower
in Moscow.
1278
00:56:57,631 --> 00:56:59,590
- Trump gets obsessed
with Russia
1279
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,722
and clearly sees
it as a place
1280
00:57:01,853 --> 00:57:05,334
where he's gonna make a mark,
make a fortune,
1281
00:57:05,465 --> 00:57:08,425
where's he's gonna be
a major player.
1282
00:57:09,817 --> 00:57:12,820
- For Trump, having
a Trump Tower in Moscow,
1283
00:57:12,951 --> 00:57:16,607
I think, would have been
the jewel on the crown.
1284
00:57:20,393 --> 00:57:22,090
- [speaking Russian]
1285
00:57:22,221 --> 00:57:25,180
[suspenseful music]
1286
00:57:25,311 --> 00:57:29,489
- Trump flies to Moscow
November 8th, 2013.
1287
00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:32,666
He gets there in the middle
of the day or so.
1288
00:57:32,797 --> 00:57:35,364
- And he is
the arriving champion.
1289
00:57:35,495 --> 00:57:37,366
- There's my guy!
1290
00:57:37,497 --> 00:57:39,281
- The Miss Universe is
the biggest thing going on.
1291
00:57:39,412 --> 00:57:41,283
- We're very happy
and Moscow
1292
00:57:41,414 --> 00:57:42,502
and all of Russia
is going wild.
1293
00:57:44,548 --> 00:57:46,071
- Now at this point in time,
1294
00:57:46,201 --> 00:57:49,509
Trump is obsessed
with really one thing.
1295
00:57:51,206 --> 00:57:53,252
He's obsessed
with Vladimir Putin.
1296
00:57:53,382 --> 00:57:55,602
As soon as Trump announces
1297
00:57:55,733 --> 00:57:58,649
that he's gonna hold
Miss Universe in Moscow,
1298
00:57:58,779 --> 00:58:01,260
[ping]
he's tweeting out,
1299
00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:02,653
will Vladimir
Putin come to the event?
1300
00:58:02,783 --> 00:58:05,351
Will he be my new best friend?
1301
00:58:06,831 --> 00:58:09,181
- Meanwhile, Putin's
already widely regarded
1302
00:58:09,311 --> 00:58:11,662
around the world as a thug.
1303
00:58:11,792 --> 00:58:15,274
He has repressed dissent
in Russia.
1304
00:58:15,404 --> 00:58:18,146
There had been massive human
rights abuses in Chechnya.
1305
00:58:18,277 --> 00:58:20,758
- Russian forces need
to leave Georgia at once.
1306
00:58:20,888 --> 00:58:23,543
- If anyone thinks that
they can come and kill us,
1307
00:58:23,674 --> 00:58:25,153
they should think what
consequences such a policy
1308
00:58:25,284 --> 00:58:27,242
will have for them.
1309
00:58:27,373 --> 00:58:28,461
- Journalists and critics
of the Russian state
1310
00:58:28,592 --> 00:58:31,159
have been killed,
1311
00:58:31,290 --> 00:58:33,553
but Trump is enamored
with him.
1312
00:58:33,684 --> 00:58:36,513
[epic music]
1313
00:58:36,643 --> 00:58:38,602
- Trump rather nakedly
and openly
1314
00:58:38,732 --> 00:58:42,301
had been courting Putin's
favor for many years,
1315
00:58:42,431 --> 00:58:44,695
eagerly hoping to have
a relationship with Putin
1316
00:58:44,825 --> 00:58:46,827
and to have business
in Moscow.
1317
00:58:46,958 --> 00:58:50,309
- Trump Tower in Moscow was
this kind of elusive thing
1318
00:58:50,439 --> 00:58:51,440
Trump's been trying
to build for three decades
1319
00:58:51,571 --> 00:58:52,572
unsuccessfully.
1320
00:58:54,574 --> 00:58:56,271
- We know that real estate
developer Trump
1321
00:58:56,402 --> 00:58:58,578
really cares about status.
1322
00:58:58,709 --> 00:59:00,798
And so, having
the tallest building
1323
00:59:00,928 --> 00:59:03,365
and then your name on top
of the tallest building
1324
00:59:03,496 --> 00:59:07,456
is like the symbol to show off
how successful you are,
1325
00:59:07,587 --> 00:59:09,458
how rich you are.
1326
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:11,417
- Trump is basically
auditioning.
1327
00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:14,551
He comes to Moscow,
hat in hand.
1328
00:59:14,681 --> 00:59:16,640
- I called it my weekend
in Moscow,
1329
00:59:16,770 --> 00:59:18,685
but I was with
the top-level people,
1330
00:59:18,816 --> 00:59:21,253
both oligarchs and generals
1331
00:59:21,383 --> 00:59:23,516
and top
of the government people.
1332
00:59:23,647 --> 00:59:25,518
I can't go further than that,
but I will tell you
1333
00:59:25,649 --> 00:59:27,259
that I met the top people.
1334
00:59:28,782 --> 00:59:31,698
- The heart of the matter is
whether or not that trip
1335
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:35,354
and what happened during
that trip involved activities
1336
00:59:35,484 --> 00:59:39,314
or business deals that gave
the Kremlin leverage over him.
1337
00:59:39,445 --> 00:59:41,752
[eerie music]
1338
00:59:41,882 --> 00:59:46,539
- The first day, there's a
lunch held for Trump at Nobu.
1339
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:49,455
This is
the famous sushi restaurant,
1340
00:59:49,586 --> 00:59:52,197
and there are a bunch
of Russian businessmen there,
1341
00:59:52,327 --> 00:59:53,807
bankers.
1342
00:59:53,938 --> 00:59:56,767
Later, Trump says all
the oligarchs were there.
1343
00:59:56,897 --> 00:59:58,203
- I got to meet all
of the leaders.
1344
00:59:58,333 --> 00:59:59,378
I got to meet all--
1345
00:59:59,508 --> 01:00:01,336
I mean, everybody was there.
1346
01:00:01,467 --> 01:00:05,427
- After the lunch,
he goes to the theatre
1347
01:00:05,558 --> 01:00:07,473
where they're doing
the final run-through
1348
01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:09,475
for the
Miss Universe Pageant,
1349
01:00:09,606 --> 01:00:12,130
which is gonna be
the next day.
1350
01:00:12,260 --> 01:00:13,697
[crowd clamoring]
1351
01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:18,440
And at night,
there was a birthday party
1352
01:00:18,571 --> 01:00:20,181
for Aras Agalarov.
1353
01:00:20,312 --> 01:00:22,531
♪
1354
01:00:22,662 --> 01:00:24,577
And around 1:00 a.m.,
1355
01:00:24,708 --> 01:00:27,406
Donald Trump went back
to the Ritz Carlton hotel
1356
01:00:27,536 --> 01:00:29,887
in downtown Moscow
where Trump was staying.
1357
01:00:30,017 --> 01:00:33,325
- Keith Schiller,
who was Trump's bodyguard,
1358
01:00:33,455 --> 01:00:36,458
says that Trump went into
his room alone
1359
01:00:36,589 --> 01:00:38,765
and that he stood guard
there for a little while
1360
01:00:38,896 --> 01:00:40,724
and then left.
1361
01:00:40,854 --> 01:00:43,727
[suspenseful music]
1362
01:00:43,857 --> 01:00:50,734
♪
1363
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,434
There, of course,
is a question
1364
01:00:55,564 --> 01:00:57,610
about what happened in
his hotel room
1365
01:00:57,741 --> 01:01:00,744
the one night he stayed
in the Russian capital.
1366
01:01:00,874 --> 01:01:03,529
♪
1367
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:06,793
- The hotel
where Trump stayed
1368
01:01:06,924 --> 01:01:10,579
is known to be completely
bugged by the FSB.
1369
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:13,495
That basically everything
you do there is watched.
1370
01:01:13,626 --> 01:01:15,584
- The FSB,
the spy agency
1371
01:01:15,715 --> 01:01:17,586
which Vladimir Putin
once headed,
1372
01:01:17,717 --> 01:01:20,328
films people inside
their flats,
1373
01:01:20,459 --> 01:01:22,591
in their bedrooms.
1374
01:01:22,722 --> 01:01:24,593
I know from
personal experience.
1375
01:01:24,724 --> 01:01:26,465
When I was in Moscow with
my wife and two small kids,
1376
01:01:26,595 --> 01:01:28,728
for three and a half years
we were watched,
1377
01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:31,688
and the FSB let us know
this because on one occasion,
1378
01:01:31,818 --> 01:01:34,516
uh, I came back from a family
holiday in Berlin to discover
1379
01:01:34,647 --> 01:01:36,475
that the FSB had left
a little present by the side
1380
01:01:36,605 --> 01:01:39,826
of the marital bed,
a sex manual in Russian,
1381
01:01:39,957 --> 01:01:42,699
which they had bookmarked
to a page on orgasms.
1382
01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:43,874
In--in essence,
they were saying,
1383
01:01:44,004 --> 01:01:45,527
we were watching
you having sex.
1384
01:01:45,658 --> 01:01:47,704
- The Russians collect
this information.
1385
01:01:47,834 --> 01:01:50,968
It's called Kompromat,
and they use it all the time.
1386
01:01:51,098 --> 01:01:53,622
- Kompromat is, um,
an old term,
1387
01:01:53,753 --> 01:01:55,537
from, um,
the Soviet era,
1388
01:01:55,668 --> 01:01:57,801
uh, that basically means
compromising material
1389
01:01:57,931 --> 01:02:00,412
or blackmail.
1390
01:02:00,542 --> 01:02:02,675
- They will have videoed
Donald Trump for sure,
1391
01:02:02,806 --> 01:02:04,633
and those--those tapes
will still exist.
1392
01:02:06,113 --> 01:02:08,899
- Earlier in the day, someone
came up to Keith Schiller
1393
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:12,903
and said, would Mr. Trump like
five women in his room tonight?
1394
01:02:13,033 --> 01:02:18,647
And Keith Schiller says
that he told this person,
1395
01:02:18,778 --> 01:02:22,434
"We don't do that,"
and that was that.
1396
01:02:22,564 --> 01:02:23,870
- If you're thinking
about 2013
1397
01:02:24,001 --> 01:02:25,654
and the Miss Universe
Beauty Pageant,
1398
01:02:25,785 --> 01:02:27,439
you have to ask yourself
this question:
1399
01:02:27,569 --> 01:02:30,572
did Donald Trump
go to bed early
1400
01:02:30,703 --> 01:02:34,402
with a cup of hot chocolate
and a 19th century novel,
1401
01:02:34,533 --> 01:02:36,491
or did Donald Trump
1402
01:02:36,622 --> 01:02:39,799
have a more exciting
and exotic time?
1403
01:02:39,930 --> 01:02:41,888
Uh, I'll let you decide.
1404
01:02:42,019 --> 01:02:44,848
[suspenseful music]
1405
01:02:44,978 --> 01:02:49,896
♪
1406
01:02:50,027 --> 01:02:52,638
[upbeat music]
1407
01:02:52,769 --> 01:02:57,599
- The story next picks up
early, early the next morning.
1408
01:02:57,730 --> 01:03:02,604
He had been asked to do
a cameo appearance in a video
1409
01:03:02,735 --> 01:03:07,696
that was being shot
for the son of Aras Agalarov,
1410
01:03:07,827 --> 01:03:09,655
Emin Agalarov.
1411
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:11,962
Emin is a pop star.
1412
01:03:12,092 --> 01:03:15,530
oh, let's say,
of modest repute.
1413
01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:17,532
- He actually makes
this pop music video
1414
01:03:17,663 --> 01:03:19,012
with lots of contestants
from Miss Universe.
1415
01:03:19,143 --> 01:03:21,623
- ♪ In another life
1416
01:03:21,754 --> 01:03:24,017
♪ We would be together
1417
01:03:24,148 --> 01:03:26,585
- And Trump has taken
a liking to him,
1418
01:03:26,715 --> 01:03:28,805
and so he appears
at that video shoot.
1419
01:03:28,935 --> 01:03:31,503
- Emin, wake up.
Come on, you're fired.
1420
01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:32,852
♪
1421
01:03:32,983 --> 01:03:34,767
- The rest of the day,
1422
01:03:34,898 --> 01:03:36,987
he has lots of interviews
and press conferences.
1423
01:03:37,117 --> 01:03:40,164
- We're thinking about doing
a Trump Tower Moscow
1424
01:03:40,294 --> 01:03:43,036
so we're talking to a group
of people about doing that.
1425
01:03:43,167 --> 01:03:47,562
- It was announced that
he and Agalarov
1426
01:03:47,693 --> 01:03:50,087
were proceeding with
the project.
1427
01:03:50,217 --> 01:03:53,481
- Now Trump has a partner
that can help him
1428
01:03:53,612 --> 01:03:54,831
cut through the red tape,
1429
01:03:54,961 --> 01:03:56,615
that has a good relationship
with Putin,
1430
01:03:56,745 --> 01:03:59,444
so the deal finally
starts to move.
1431
01:03:59,574 --> 01:04:01,750
- Uh, Donald,
do you have a relationship
1432
01:04:01,881 --> 01:04:03,622
with Vladimir Putin?
1433
01:04:03,752 --> 01:04:05,058
- I do have a relationship
1434
01:04:05,189 --> 01:04:08,453
and I can tell you
that he's very interested
1435
01:04:08,583 --> 01:04:09,933
in what we're doing here
today.
1436
01:04:10,063 --> 01:04:11,412
He's probably very interested
in what you and I
1437
01:04:11,543 --> 01:04:13,066
are saying today.
1438
01:04:13,197 --> 01:04:16,635
- In one interview,
he praises Putin.
1439
01:04:16,765 --> 01:04:18,419
- That, uh, Putin has done
an amazing job
1440
01:04:18,550 --> 01:04:19,943
of showing certain leadership
1441
01:04:20,073 --> 01:04:22,684
that our people have not
been able to match.
1442
01:04:22,815 --> 01:04:24,817
- He says Putin's watching
very closely
1443
01:04:24,948 --> 01:04:26,688
what we're doing here.
1444
01:04:26,819 --> 01:04:28,952
You know, almost implying
that Putin's gonna come
1445
01:04:29,082 --> 01:04:31,998
and he wants Putin to come.
1446
01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:34,305
[cheering, applause]
1447
01:04:34,435 --> 01:04:36,611
[cheering]
1448
01:04:36,742 --> 01:04:38,744
- He asks the people
around him,
1449
01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:40,485
over and over
and over again,
1450
01:04:40,615 --> 01:04:41,834
is Putin coming?
1451
01:04:41,965 --> 01:04:43,880
[cheering]
1452
01:04:44,010 --> 01:04:45,838
Will I be meeting with Putin?
1453
01:04:45,969 --> 01:04:47,840
Will I see him?
Can I see him? Can I see him?
1454
01:04:47,971 --> 01:04:50,060
- This is the moment.
1455
01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:52,584
- They say, "We're waiting,"
1456
01:04:52,714 --> 01:04:55,674
and he gets anxious and anxious
and anxious about this.
1457
01:04:55,804 --> 01:04:59,417
- So, Miss Universe, 2013
is Venezuela. Gabriela Isler!
1458
01:04:59,547 --> 01:05:01,593
- You're a rock star!
1459
01:05:01,723 --> 01:05:03,900
- Congratulations to you,
Miss Venezuela!
1460
01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:06,076
Goodnight everybody
from Moscow!
1461
01:05:06,206 --> 01:05:10,732
- Finally, the phone rings
and it's Dmitry Peskov,
1462
01:05:10,863 --> 01:05:14,693
who is Putin's Chief Spokesman
Strategist, and he says,
1463
01:05:14,823 --> 01:05:17,000
"I'm sorry, the President
can't see you."
1464
01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:19,524
[dramatic music]
1465
01:05:19,654 --> 01:05:21,787
"His schedule
won't permit it."
1466
01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:24,442
Trump, of course,
is disappointed.
1467
01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:27,836
And at one point
1468
01:05:27,967 --> 01:05:30,013
he says to one of
the Miss Universe officials,
1469
01:05:30,143 --> 01:05:34,104
"You know, we could tell people
that Putin came.
1470
01:05:34,234 --> 01:05:35,670
No one would
know the difference."
1471
01:05:35,801 --> 01:05:36,802
[chuckling]
1472
01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:38,978
[ping]
1473
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:40,588
- After the Miss Universe
pageant wraps up in Moscow
1474
01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:42,634
in the fall of 2013,
1475
01:05:42,764 --> 01:05:44,201
there's a memorandum
of understanding
1476
01:05:44,331 --> 01:05:47,769
that is drafted between
the Trump organization
1477
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:50,685
and the Agalarov corporation,
1478
01:05:50,816 --> 01:05:52,687
which is Trump Tower
in Moscow,
1479
01:05:52,818 --> 01:05:54,689
and the deal starts
to actually move.
1480
01:05:54,820 --> 01:05:57,170
[gunfire]
[yelling]
1481
01:05:57,301 --> 01:06:01,958
- But then Russia invades
Ukraine and annexes Crimea,
1482
01:06:02,088 --> 01:06:04,003
and then immediately
sanctions hit.
1483
01:06:04,134 --> 01:06:06,919
♪
1484
01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:08,660
And the sanctions kill
the deal.
1485
01:06:08,790 --> 01:06:10,792
- Based on the executive order
1486
01:06:10,923 --> 01:06:13,534
that I signed in response to
Russia's initial intervention
1487
01:06:13,665 --> 01:06:15,058
in Ukraine,
1488
01:06:15,188 --> 01:06:17,930
we're imposing sanctions
on more senior officials
1489
01:06:18,061 --> 01:06:19,976
of the Russian government.
1490
01:06:20,106 --> 01:06:21,890
- From Trump's mind
at the time,
1491
01:06:22,021 --> 01:06:24,241
I can imagine
this being a key moment
1492
01:06:24,371 --> 01:06:29,898
where he sees Obama trying
to kill his dream deal
1493
01:06:30,029 --> 01:06:33,641
that he's been working
for--for, now, decades.
1494
01:06:33,772 --> 01:06:36,557
[light suspenseful music]
1495
01:06:38,820 --> 01:06:41,910
- A few weeks after the Miss
Universe contest was over,
1496
01:06:42,041 --> 01:06:45,088
a woman shows up
at the Miss Universe office
1497
01:06:45,218 --> 01:06:46,872
in New York City.
1498
01:06:47,003 --> 01:06:50,615
It's the daughter
of Aras Agalarov.
1499
01:06:50,745 --> 01:06:53,966
She has a gift
for Donald Trump.
1500
01:06:54,097 --> 01:06:57,100
- Putin didn't or wouldn't
make time to see Donald Trump
1501
01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:59,972
and did arrange for Trump
to be given a gift.
1502
01:07:00,103 --> 01:07:02,061
This is a black lacquered box.
1503
01:07:03,932 --> 01:07:08,676
- The box is delivered
to Trump at Trump Tower.
1504
01:07:08,807 --> 01:07:10,200
[upbeat music]
1505
01:07:10,330 --> 01:07:14,682
Inside the box,
there is an envelope.
1506
01:07:14,813 --> 01:07:18,730
And to this day
no one knows--
1507
01:07:18,860 --> 01:07:20,819
at least no one
in the public knows--
1508
01:07:20,949 --> 01:07:23,169
what was in that note.
1509
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:27,043
- It might have just been,
"Sorry I missed you."
1510
01:07:27,173 --> 01:07:30,263
It might have been
something more,
1511
01:07:30,394 --> 01:07:35,877
but my guess is
that whatever it was,
1512
01:07:36,008 --> 01:07:45,670
it was an indication that Putin
knows how to play Donald Trump.
1513
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,498
[applause]
- Please welcome Donald Trump.
1514
01:07:47,628 --> 01:07:50,588
[cheering]
1515
01:07:52,851 --> 01:07:55,636
- Thank you, thank you,
thank you so much.
1516
01:07:55,767 --> 01:07:57,725
I saw the other day
on television
1517
01:07:57,856 --> 01:07:59,988
people just walking across
the b--they're walking.
1518
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:01,990
The military's standing
there holding guns
1519
01:08:02,121 --> 01:08:03,557
and people just walking
right in front,
1520
01:08:03,688 --> 01:08:04,602
coming into our country.
1521
01:08:04,732 --> 01:08:06,038
♪
1522
01:08:06,169 --> 01:08:08,040
- It's January 2015
1523
01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:10,086
and some of the people
on Trump's staff,
1524
01:08:10,216 --> 01:08:12,044
including a guy named
Sam Nunberg,
1525
01:08:12,175 --> 01:08:14,786
really believed in the power
of illegal immigration
1526
01:08:14,916 --> 01:08:16,569
to galvanize
Republican voters,
1527
01:08:16,701 --> 01:08:18,005
but the problem they had
1528
01:08:18,137 --> 01:08:19,878
is they couldn't keep Trump
on message.
1529
01:08:20,008 --> 01:08:22,707
He would get up before these
conservative groups and--
1530
01:08:22,836 --> 01:08:26,232
and he would wander, and so
Nunberg came up with this idea.
1531
01:08:26,362 --> 01:08:28,755
He told Trump, "You ought
to go out there and tell them
1532
01:08:28,887 --> 01:08:31,107
"that you're gonna build a wall
to stop illegal immigrants
1533
01:08:31,237 --> 01:08:33,109
from coming
into this country."
1534
01:08:33,238 --> 01:08:35,894
And, you know, initially Trump
didn't seem too interested
1535
01:08:36,023 --> 01:08:39,637
in the idea, uh, but finally,
at an Iowa event,
1536
01:08:39,767 --> 01:08:41,769
Trump tried out the line...
1537
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:46,033
- We have to build a fence,
and it's gotta be a beauty.
1538
01:08:46,165 --> 01:08:47,601
Who can build better
than Trump?
1539
01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:49,821
I build.
It's what I do.
1540
01:08:49,951 --> 01:08:52,084
[applause]
1541
01:08:52,215 --> 01:08:54,652
- The crowd just roared.
1542
01:08:54,782 --> 01:08:57,133
Trump, who's
a very intuitive politician,
1543
01:08:57,263 --> 01:09:00,613
saw that this drew an enormous
response from his audience.
1544
01:09:01,962 --> 01:09:05,836
- So I would say that
if I run and if I win,
1545
01:09:05,967 --> 01:09:09,057
I would certainly start
by building a very,
1546
01:09:09,188 --> 01:09:11,015
very powerful border.
1547
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:13,671
[cheering]
1548
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,890
[applause]
1549
01:09:17,022 --> 01:09:20,068
Thank you all very much.
Thank you, thank you.
1550
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:22,157
[applause]
1551
01:09:22,288 --> 01:09:24,898
- This was something
that really galvanized
1552
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:28,947
a lot of hard right,
anti-immigrant voters,
1553
01:09:29,077 --> 01:09:31,993
who became, uh, the strength
of his political base.
1554
01:09:32,124 --> 01:09:33,778
- Beautiful, thank you.
1555
01:09:33,907 --> 01:09:36,128
- Donald Trump
wasn't gonna do nuance.
1556
01:09:36,259 --> 01:09:38,696
Americans didn't want nuance.
1557
01:09:39,871 --> 01:09:41,742
With the immigration thing,
1558
01:09:41,872 --> 01:09:43,831
one thing he said to me was,
he goes,
1559
01:09:43,961 --> 01:09:47,966
"Sam, you write things that
are too [bleep] complicated.
1560
01:09:48,095 --> 01:09:50,185
Who the [bleep]
can understand this?"
1561
01:09:50,316 --> 01:09:52,578
And you know what?
He was 100% right.
1562
01:09:52,710 --> 01:09:54,320
♪
1563
01:09:54,451 --> 01:09:56,975
- One way that Trump became
convinced that this issue
1564
01:09:57,105 --> 01:10:00,978
had real power and salience
with grassroots conservatives
1565
01:10:01,109 --> 01:10:03,808
was that when he tweeted
about illegal immigration,
1566
01:10:03,938 --> 01:10:06,505
he would get hundreds
and hundreds of retweets.
1567
01:10:06,637 --> 01:10:09,161
[pinging]
1568
01:10:09,291 --> 01:10:13,077
- I introduced him to Twitter
with Roger Stone.
1569
01:10:13,209 --> 01:10:15,123
We're working for him and we're
like, "What are we gonna do?
1570
01:10:15,254 --> 01:10:17,169
How are we gonna continue
to get paid?"
1571
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:20,651
And Roger says to me, "We're
gonna work on his Twitter."
1572
01:10:20,781 --> 01:10:22,348
[epic music]
1573
01:10:22,478 --> 01:10:24,611
And we just started sending
in suggested tweets.
1574
01:10:26,352 --> 01:10:27,875
- Donald Trump's
political ideology
1575
01:10:28,005 --> 01:10:29,702
is called Donald Trump.
1576
01:10:29,834 --> 01:10:31,314
He's very malleable.
1577
01:10:31,443 --> 01:10:34,012
His gut instinct is
to be a populist.
1578
01:10:34,142 --> 01:10:37,145
It's to be whatever's driving
the American people crazy,
1579
01:10:37,276 --> 01:10:41,628
and so he has been open to,
and susceptible to,
1580
01:10:41,759 --> 01:10:44,109
all kinds of conspiracy ideas.
1581
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,154
♪
1582
01:10:46,285 --> 01:10:49,723
- Trump was using Twitter
as a focus group
1583
01:10:49,853 --> 01:10:52,204
to hone the issues
that he would later run on,
1584
01:10:52,335 --> 01:10:54,815
seeing what it was that would
resonate with his followers
1585
01:10:54,946 --> 01:10:56,252
and what wouldn't.
1586
01:10:56,382 --> 01:10:58,079
- He'd be on the plane
1587
01:10:58,210 --> 01:11:00,125
and he'd have this big Samsung
phone in his hand
1588
01:11:00,255 --> 01:11:03,041
and he'd be
fat-fingering a tweet
1589
01:11:03,171 --> 01:11:04,912
and then, all the sudden,
he's pressing "send"
1590
01:11:05,043 --> 01:11:06,174
and you're praying that
there's no spelling mistakes
1591
01:11:06,305 --> 01:11:08,046
and then--boom!
1592
01:11:08,175 --> 01:11:10,135
We're watching satellite TV
and it's up,
1593
01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:12,268
you know, the chyron's up,
you know.
1594
01:11:12,398 --> 01:11:14,139
"Trump says
blah-da-dee-blah-blah,"
1595
01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:15,793
you know and you're,
like, laughing.
1596
01:11:15,923 --> 01:11:17,925
- I told him,
"You gotta stop.
1597
01:11:18,056 --> 01:11:20,188
"Stop tweeting. You're creating
headaches for yourself.
1598
01:11:20,318 --> 01:11:22,016
Stop tweeting."
1599
01:11:22,147 --> 01:11:24,105
And he's like,
"Why should I stop tweeting
1600
01:11:24,236 --> 01:11:28,153
"when I can bypass the fake
news companies in this country
1601
01:11:28,284 --> 01:11:30,373
and go directly
to the American people?"
1602
01:11:30,503 --> 01:11:32,200
- I've got millions of people.
- Right.
1603
01:11:32,331 --> 01:11:33,811
- Between Twitter
and Facebook,
1604
01:11:33,941 --> 01:11:35,202
I'll be at five million
people.
1605
01:11:35,334 --> 01:11:37,293
That's more than
the biggest media company.
1606
01:11:37,423 --> 01:11:38,816
- You know how many people
on Twitter every day ask me
1607
01:11:38,946 --> 01:11:40,383
to run for president?
1608
01:11:40,513 --> 01:11:41,906
"Please, Mr. Trump,
run for president."
1609
01:11:42,036 --> 01:11:43,951
"Please Mr. Trump,
1610
01:11:44,082 --> 01:11:45,039
you're the only one
who can save the country."
1611
01:11:45,170 --> 01:11:46,302
- Thanks to the internet,
1612
01:11:46,432 --> 01:11:48,347
and thanks especially
to social media,
1613
01:11:48,478 --> 01:11:51,132
he's starting
to connect on issues
1614
01:11:51,263 --> 01:11:53,918
that he thinks will speak
to the emotional gap
1615
01:11:54,048 --> 01:11:56,398
in Americans' political
experience.
1616
01:11:56,529 --> 01:11:59,053
That brought him into
a world of people
1617
01:11:59,184 --> 01:12:01,317
who were outside
the mainstream,
1618
01:12:01,447 --> 01:12:04,276
sometimes even beyond
the mainstream of Fox News.
1619
01:12:04,407 --> 01:12:08,367
They included the folks
who worked at Breitbart News,
1620
01:12:08,498 --> 01:12:11,892
where a lot of ideas about
American nationalism,
1621
01:12:12,023 --> 01:12:14,764
about fighting back
against multiculturalism,
1622
01:12:14,895 --> 01:12:17,550
were being built up
by Steve Bannon,
1623
01:12:17,681 --> 01:12:21,859
a former Hollywood producer
who had turned himself into,
1624
01:12:21,989 --> 01:12:24,427
kind of,
the voice of Breitbart News.
1625
01:12:24,557 --> 01:12:26,864
- The center core
of what we believe,
1626
01:12:26,994 --> 01:12:28,909
that we're a nation
with an economy,
1627
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,868
not an economy just
in some global marketplace
1628
01:12:30,998 --> 01:12:34,088
with open borders, but we're
a nation with a--a culture
1629
01:12:34,219 --> 01:12:37,091
and a, uh,
and a reason for being,
1630
01:12:37,222 --> 01:12:38,919
and I think
that's what unites us.
1631
01:12:40,398 --> 01:12:43,010
- Trump became a fan
of Bannon's work,
1632
01:12:43,141 --> 01:12:45,317
and they bonded over the idea
1633
01:12:45,448 --> 01:12:50,103
that the United States was
in deep, dark trouble.
1634
01:12:50,235 --> 01:12:53,193
- Bannon starts briefing
Trump on politics.
1635
01:12:53,325 --> 01:12:54,934
Trump,
who doesn't use computers,
1636
01:12:55,066 --> 01:12:56,110
isn't gonna read
these articles on a phone
1637
01:12:56,241 --> 01:12:57,895
or on his computer,
1638
01:12:58,025 --> 01:12:59,244
so Trump's staff
actually prints out
1639
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:01,333
the Breitbart news articles
on paper
1640
01:13:01,464 --> 01:13:03,727
and hands them to Trump
in a manila folder.
1641
01:13:05,206 --> 01:13:08,253
- Breitbart didn't come off
as academic and nerdy.
1642
01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:09,254
I couldn't get Trump
to read something
1643
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:11,387
from "The Wall Street Journal."
1644
01:13:11,517 --> 01:13:13,171
He's not gonna read something
that he's not interested in.
1645
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:14,868
But if Breitbart wrote
something about it,
1646
01:13:14,999 --> 01:13:17,001
he would look at it.
1647
01:13:17,130 --> 01:13:19,046
- If you look at the issues
that Breitbart news
1648
01:13:19,177 --> 01:13:20,960
is most concerned about,
1649
01:13:21,092 --> 01:13:24,356
it tends to be things
like the idea
1650
01:13:24,487 --> 01:13:27,968
that immigrants from Mexico
are marauding killers
1651
01:13:28,099 --> 01:13:30,188
and rapists who pose
a dire threat
1652
01:13:30,318 --> 01:13:31,929
to the American citizenry.
1653
01:13:32,059 --> 01:13:33,931
- He started listening
to a diet
1654
01:13:34,061 --> 01:13:36,368
of right wing conversation
1655
01:13:36,499 --> 01:13:39,415
that was not mainstream
Republicanism
1656
01:13:39,545 --> 01:13:43,201
and bought into a series
of conspiracy theories
1657
01:13:43,331 --> 01:13:46,246
that got wilder and wilder
about immigrants coming in
1658
01:13:46,378 --> 01:13:48,335
and stealing American jobs.
1659
01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:50,469
- Bannon was
in Trump's ear talking,
1660
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,253
"We need to double down
on these ideas.
1661
01:13:52,384 --> 01:13:54,168
This is really resonating
with the Republican base."
1662
01:13:54,299 --> 01:13:57,302
[applause]
1663
01:13:58,564 --> 01:14:04,048
- We need strong borders.
We need a wall.
1664
01:14:04,178 --> 01:14:06,353
- There's no doubt that as
the years went by,
1665
01:14:06,485 --> 01:14:09,401
Trump got much more angry
and much darker.
1666
01:14:09,532 --> 01:14:15,362
- The fact is, we're
run by either very foolish
1667
01:14:15,494 --> 01:14:18,062
or very stupid people.
1668
01:14:18,192 --> 01:14:20,368
- He's really being
indoctrinated with
1669
01:14:20,499 --> 01:14:22,196
the Breitbart worldview.
1670
01:14:22,327 --> 01:14:24,068
- You're gonna have people
just flowing into
1671
01:14:24,198 --> 01:14:27,157
this country worse
than it's ever been.
1672
01:14:27,288 --> 01:14:28,986
- Then when he gets
glommed-onto, in a sense,
1673
01:14:29,116 --> 01:14:31,249
by, uh,
the Breitbart right,
1674
01:14:31,379 --> 01:14:34,034
the kind of ideology found
its angry man,
1675
01:14:34,165 --> 01:14:37,081
and the angry man found
its ideology.
1676
01:14:37,210 --> 01:14:38,952
- They struck a chord
with Donald Trump
1677
01:14:39,083 --> 01:14:41,564
because they appealed
to his sense of himself
1678
01:14:41,693 --> 01:14:45,219
as the outsider sneered at
by the elites,
1679
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:47,264
who saw him
as this caricature,
1680
01:14:47,395 --> 01:14:50,486
as this sort of clown,
and he always resented that.
1681
01:14:50,616 --> 01:14:55,447
- Washington is totally broken,
and it's not gonna get fixed
1682
01:14:55,577 --> 01:15:00,191
unless we put the right person
in that top position.
1683
01:15:00,321 --> 01:15:03,020
- CPAC, give it up!
Donald Trump!
1684
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:04,195
- Thank you, thank you.
1685
01:15:04,325 --> 01:15:06,414
[applause]
1686
01:15:06,545 --> 01:15:11,115
- Is he serious this time
or just selling something?
1687
01:15:11,245 --> 01:15:13,117
- The real estate mogul
and reality TV star
1688
01:15:13,246 --> 01:15:15,335
has flirted
with White House runs before.
1689
01:15:15,467 --> 01:15:18,469
- I love playing a tape on
television and radio
1690
01:15:18,601 --> 01:15:22,169
where all of these people were
laughing, "Run, Donald, run.
1691
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:23,562
Please, you'll never win."
1692
01:15:23,693 --> 01:15:29,089
- Do it, do it.
Look--look at me. Do it.
1693
01:15:29,219 --> 01:15:33,224
I will personally write you
a campaign check now.
1694
01:15:33,353 --> 01:15:35,094
- Trump's running
for president like...
1695
01:15:35,226 --> 01:15:36,619
- This is your worst nightmare.
1696
01:15:36,749 --> 01:15:38,621
- People think that
Donald Trump is a clown.
1697
01:15:38,751 --> 01:15:40,971
- Does anybody seriously think
that Donald Trump
1698
01:15:41,101 --> 01:15:43,364
is serious about running
for president?
1699
01:15:43,495 --> 01:15:45,279
- He doesn't take on fights
1700
01:15:45,410 --> 01:15:47,455
that he doesn't think
he can win.
1701
01:15:47,585 --> 01:15:50,415
Donald Trump wants to win
at everything he does.
1702
01:15:50,546 --> 01:15:53,287
[crowd clamoring]
1703
01:15:53,418 --> 01:15:55,550
- I remember saying to myself,
1704
01:15:55,681 --> 01:15:58,075
what's gonna happen when "The
Apprentice" goes off the air?
1705
01:15:58,205 --> 01:15:59,424
What's he gonna do?
He can't go back
1706
01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:02,035
to just being
a B-level developer.
1707
01:16:02,166 --> 01:16:04,472
It was about, I'm not gonna be
a star anymore.
1708
01:16:04,603 --> 01:16:06,474
The focus is
not gonna be on me.
1709
01:16:06,605 --> 01:16:09,652
How can I keep
the cameras pointed at me?
1710
01:16:09,782 --> 01:16:11,436
Because he didn't want
those lights to go out.
1711
01:16:11,567 --> 01:16:16,789
Well, we got the answer,
didn't we?
1712
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,879
[solemn music]
1713
01:16:21,532 --> 01:16:27,017
- When I write about people,
I get to know them implicitly.
1714
01:16:27,147 --> 01:16:31,282
I'm trying to draw out of them
their inner selves
1715
01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:33,980
in order to get at
that essence.
1716
01:16:35,982 --> 01:16:38,115
We're driving up
the interstate,
1717
01:16:38,245 --> 01:16:40,378
I'm taking notes,
we're talking.
1718
01:16:40,508 --> 01:16:43,511
- I really was determined
to answer this question
1719
01:16:43,642 --> 01:16:45,252
that was bugging me
about what goes on
1720
01:16:45,383 --> 01:16:48,299
inside this person's being.
1721
01:16:48,429 --> 01:16:51,171
What is the nature of
that private self?
1722
01:16:51,302 --> 01:16:53,260
And so I said, "What time
do you wake up?"
1723
01:16:53,391 --> 01:16:55,088
I knew he didn't sleep much.
1724
01:16:55,219 --> 01:16:57,047
And he said,
"You know, 5:30."
1725
01:16:57,177 --> 01:17:00,398
I said, "Okay, everyone's
asleep, you're awake,
1726
01:17:00,528 --> 01:17:02,835
"you're in your bathroom,
you're shaving,
1727
01:17:02,966 --> 01:17:05,055
"you're looking in the mirror--
1728
01:17:05,184 --> 01:17:06,969
what do you see?"
1729
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:10,016
♪
1730
01:17:10,147 --> 01:17:15,369
And silence. He doesn't have
an answer to the question.
1731
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:18,068
And I said, "Well, are
you looking in the mirror
1732
01:17:18,198 --> 01:17:22,942
and thinking,
'Gee, I'm Donald Trump?'"
1733
01:17:23,073 --> 01:17:26,337
And he still doesn't respond.
1734
01:17:28,469 --> 01:17:30,166
By the time
I was done with him,
1735
01:17:30,297 --> 01:17:32,822
I was able to reach
a conclusion
1736
01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,911
about his interior life,
1737
01:17:35,041 --> 01:17:37,870
and with Trump,
1738
01:17:38,001 --> 01:17:41,178
the essence
was--was a vacuum.
1739
01:17:42,483 --> 01:17:45,878
- I think what
has kept him going
1740
01:17:46,009 --> 01:17:48,794
is a need
to feed an emptiness.
1741
01:17:50,404 --> 01:17:54,017
He had aspired to and achieved
the ultimate luxury.
1742
01:17:54,147 --> 01:17:57,020
He lives like a king,
1743
01:17:57,150 --> 01:18:01,067
but for all the things
that should give one pleasure,
1744
01:18:01,198 --> 01:18:04,592
there is something lacking
in those pleasures,
1745
01:18:04,723 --> 01:18:08,335
and he's been trying
to feed that emptiness.
1746
01:18:08,466 --> 01:18:12,296
There is an unfillable hole
inside this person,
1747
01:18:12,425 --> 01:18:16,039
and I think that that is
1748
01:18:16,169 --> 01:18:20,043
his--his fear
and his destiny both.
1749
01:18:20,173 --> 01:18:24,047
♪
1750
01:18:24,177 --> 01:18:25,439
- He wanted me there
around 7:00.
1751
01:18:25,570 --> 01:18:28,312
I got there at 7:30
because I'm always late.
1752
01:18:28,442 --> 01:18:30,443
He's in a black suit
1753
01:18:30,575 --> 01:18:33,621
with the red tie
and the white shirt,
1754
01:18:33,752 --> 01:18:37,147
and he says, "What do you
think, should I change?"
1755
01:18:37,277 --> 01:18:38,583
I said, "I love it."
1756
01:18:38,714 --> 01:18:40,019
He goes, "No
you're a [bleep] idiot.
1757
01:18:40,150 --> 01:18:41,412
I'm going to change."
1758
01:18:41,541 --> 01:18:44,067
And Melania comes down,
Mrs. Trump,
1759
01:18:44,197 --> 01:18:46,547
and I'm, like,
holy [bleep] Jesus,
1760
01:18:46,678 --> 01:18:48,157
look at that dress
she's wearing.
1761
01:18:48,288 --> 01:18:52,205
You see her back,
and God, is she gorgeous.
1762
01:18:52,335 --> 01:18:56,296
And here's something
nobody is going to believe
1763
01:18:56,427 --> 01:18:58,951
even when I tell you this--
he prayed.
1764
01:19:00,431 --> 01:19:01,954
He went like this.
1765
01:19:02,085 --> 01:19:07,394
♪
1766
01:19:07,525 --> 01:19:10,267
And then he said,
"Okay, let's go."
1767
01:19:10,397 --> 01:19:12,965
[upbeat music]
1768
01:19:13,096 --> 01:19:15,532
♪
1769
01:19:15,663 --> 01:19:17,535
- When everybody else
was going crazy,
1770
01:19:17,665 --> 01:19:19,537
including a lot of
my colleagues at Fox News
1771
01:19:19,666 --> 01:19:21,539
about Donald Trump may get
into this race,
1772
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:24,498
I remember saying, "I'll
believe it when I see it."
1773
01:19:24,629 --> 01:19:26,500
[crowd clamoring]
1774
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:29,503
Lo and behold,
on a June morning in 2015,
1775
01:19:29,634 --> 01:19:33,290
he and Melania come down
that escalator.
1776
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:36,293
[applause]
1777
01:19:37,684 --> 01:19:41,037
- Ladies and gentlemen,
1778
01:19:41,166 --> 01:19:43,126
I am officially running...
1779
01:19:43,255 --> 01:19:45,344
[cheering]
1780
01:19:45,476 --> 01:19:49,349
For President
of the United States.
1781
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:54,093
And we are going to make
our country great again.
1782
01:19:54,224 --> 01:19:56,487
all: Trump, Trump, Trump,
Trump, Trump, Trump!
1783
01:19:56,617 --> 01:19:58,402
Trump, Trump,
Trump, Trump, Trump!
1784
01:19:58,532 --> 01:20:02,318
- Donald Trump takes
on 16 seasoned, powerful,
1785
01:20:02,449 --> 01:20:04,321
professional politicians
1786
01:20:04,451 --> 01:20:06,192
and one by one, he's knocking
them out of the race.
1787
01:20:06,323 --> 01:20:07,672
He's re-written
the rule book.
1788
01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:09,543
- They're killing us
at the border
1789
01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:11,458
and they're killing us
in trade.
1790
01:20:11,589 --> 01:20:13,591
The American dream is dead.
1791
01:20:13,721 --> 01:20:15,636
But we're fighting for you
so what's good for me,
1792
01:20:15,767 --> 01:20:18,161
is good for you and
I mean that totally 100%.
1793
01:20:18,291 --> 01:20:22,469
[cheering]
1794
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,039
- But while this is going on,
Trump was not done with Russia.
1795
01:20:27,170 --> 01:20:30,173
♪
1796
01:20:30,303 --> 01:20:33,175
- In 2015, Felix Sater,
1797
01:20:33,306 --> 01:20:35,612
Trump's business partner
from Bayrock,
1798
01:20:35,743 --> 01:20:38,702
accidentally bumbles
into the dream deal
1799
01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:41,184
of anybody
in the Trump orbit.
1800
01:20:41,314 --> 01:20:44,230
♪
1801
01:20:44,361 --> 01:20:46,189
A friend of his
lets him know
1802
01:20:46,318 --> 01:20:48,626
that he has some property
in Moscow.
1803
01:20:48,755 --> 01:20:53,805
Felix instantly thinks, could
that be a Trump Tower Moscow?
1804
01:20:53,936 --> 01:20:57,330
The thing that Trump has wanted
more than anything forever.
1805
01:20:58,723 --> 01:21:01,378
- Felix Sater emails
Michael Cohen,
1806
01:21:01,508 --> 01:21:02,727
Trump's personal lawyer,
1807
01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:04,728
and says I have secured
financing
1808
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:08,210
for Trump Tower Moscow
from VTB Bank.
1809
01:21:08,341 --> 01:21:09,212
It's a Russian state bank.
1810
01:21:09,342 --> 01:21:11,692
♪
1811
01:21:11,823 --> 01:21:15,653
- VTB Bank is not really a
bank in any traditional sense.
1812
01:21:15,782 --> 01:21:18,351
It's more like a tool
of the Kremlin.
1813
01:21:18,482 --> 01:21:20,571
- Vladimirovich Putin.
1814
01:21:20,701 --> 01:21:22,616
- A tool of Putin
and his cronies
1815
01:21:22,746 --> 01:21:24,531
to get money
where they want.
1816
01:21:24,662 --> 01:21:27,491
It was also sanctioned after
Russia annexed Crimea
1817
01:21:27,621 --> 01:21:30,494
as a way to punish specifically
Putin and his cronies.
1818
01:21:30,624 --> 01:21:33,496
[suspenseful music]
1819
01:21:36,326 --> 01:21:38,632
- That didn't seem
to put them off any.
1820
01:21:38,763 --> 01:21:41,679
There are no emails in which
Michael Cohen says,
1821
01:21:41,809 --> 01:21:44,682
"Hey, we can't work with
a sanctioned bank."
1822
01:21:44,812 --> 01:21:47,728
It's sorta like, "Well,
you keep going, Felix."
1823
01:21:47,859 --> 01:21:50,253
- I approached Michael Cohen
about the opportunity.
1824
01:21:50,383 --> 01:21:51,732
He was very excited.
- Thanks very much.
1825
01:21:51,862 --> 01:21:53,603
- Donald Trump signed
the letter of intent.
1826
01:21:53,734 --> 01:21:55,562
- This is not a secret
from Trump.
1827
01:21:55,693 --> 01:21:57,521
Trump knows about this.
1828
01:21:57,651 --> 01:21:59,653
♪
1829
01:21:59,784 --> 01:22:03,440
Trump signs
a letter of intent.
1830
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,486
They get pretty far
into the weeds.
1831
01:22:06,617 --> 01:22:08,314
How much money Trump
would get up front--
1832
01:22:08,445 --> 01:22:11,535
$4 million
just for moving ahead.
1833
01:22:11,665 --> 01:22:13,362
There would be a spa,
1834
01:22:13,493 --> 01:22:16,670
and the spa might even be
called "Spa By Ivanka."
1835
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,282
I mean, they're really getting
into details.
1836
01:22:19,412 --> 01:22:21,414
Now there's a little bit
of a problem here.
1837
01:22:21,545 --> 01:22:24,504
Trump's running for president.
1838
01:22:24,635 --> 01:22:27,246
- Here you have an American
presidential candidate
1839
01:22:27,377 --> 01:22:30,554
doing a business deal
with a bank in Russia
1840
01:22:30,684 --> 01:22:32,730
sanctioned by
the U.S. government.
1841
01:22:32,860 --> 01:22:36,168
Does any American voter
know about this?
1842
01:22:36,299 --> 01:22:39,389
No, it's a secret.
1843
01:22:39,519 --> 01:22:44,829
- I humbly and gratefully
accept your nomination
1844
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,441
for the presidency
of the United States.
1845
01:22:48,572 --> 01:22:50,356
Russia, if you're listening,
1846
01:22:50,487 --> 01:22:54,273
I hope you are able to find
the 30,000 emails.
1847
01:22:54,404 --> 01:22:56,536
I have nothing
to do with Russia.
1848
01:22:56,666 --> 01:22:58,147
Who's gonna pay
for the wall?
1849
01:22:58,277 --> 01:23:00,236
all: Mexico
- Who?
1850
01:23:00,366 --> 01:23:01,411
all: Mexico!
1851
01:23:01,541 --> 01:23:03,326
all: Lock her up!
1852
01:23:03,456 --> 01:23:05,632
- Honestly,
she should be locked up.
1853
01:23:05,763 --> 01:23:07,416
You know what we're gonna do?
1854
01:23:07,547 --> 01:23:09,680
Even better, we're gonna
beat her on November 8th.
1855
01:23:09,809 --> 01:23:12,204
With your help,
we are going to win,
1856
01:23:12,335 --> 01:23:14,684
and we are going to win big.
1857
01:23:14,815 --> 01:23:17,818
- This is CNN breaking news.
1858
01:23:17,949 --> 01:23:20,559
- The American people
have spoken.
1859
01:23:20,691 --> 01:23:24,564
Donald Trump will be the 45th
President of the United States.
1860
01:23:24,695 --> 01:23:27,698
all: USA, USA, USA!
1861
01:23:27,827 --> 01:23:31,615
[dramatic music]
1862
01:23:31,745 --> 01:23:33,746
- All right, so you know
I'm trying to march you
1863
01:23:33,878 --> 01:23:35,184
through your life.
1864
01:23:35,314 --> 01:23:37,490
- I know that.
1865
01:23:37,621 --> 01:23:39,188
- And you are in the present,
you're always in the present.
1866
01:23:39,318 --> 01:23:40,885
- I'm--I'm never in the past.
1867
01:23:41,016 --> 01:23:42,539
- Right, I know, I know.
It's hard for you.
1868
01:23:42,669 --> 01:23:43,670
- The problem that
you have with me
1869
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,889
is that I'm not in the past.
1870
01:23:46,021 --> 01:23:47,718
I'm--I'm a person that thinks
to the future and the present.
1871
01:23:47,848 --> 01:23:51,243
[cheering]
1872
01:23:51,374 --> 01:23:54,507
[applause]
1873
01:23:54,638 --> 01:23:56,901
I don't think people
change very much.
1874
01:23:57,032 --> 01:23:59,773
You may slow down,
but honestly--
1875
01:23:59,904 --> 01:24:01,688
yeah, I don't
think people change.
1876
01:24:01,818 --> 01:24:04,735
I think I'm a very big
believer in the fact that
1877
01:24:04,865 --> 01:24:06,780
when you are a certain way,
1878
01:24:06,911 --> 01:24:08,565
pretty much
that's the way you are.
1879
01:24:08,695 --> 01:24:11,523
[solemn music]
1880
01:24:13,091 --> 01:24:16,746
Now environmental situations
change, conditions change,
1881
01:24:16,877 --> 01:24:19,358
wealth changes,
both up and down.
1882
01:24:19,489 --> 01:24:22,361
♪
1883
01:24:22,492 --> 01:24:25,625
But I think basically
our personality is set
1884
01:24:25,755 --> 01:24:28,150
from very close
to the time of birth.
1885
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,632
♪
1886
01:24:32,763 --> 01:24:34,764
I mean, if I look at myself
in the 1st grade
1887
01:24:34,895 --> 01:24:36,593
and I look at myself now,
1888
01:24:36,723 --> 01:24:38,769
I don't think
I'm that different.
1889
01:24:38,898 --> 01:24:42,686
Now I have vast experience,
I have vast success.
1890
01:24:42,816 --> 01:24:44,688
Like, I've had
these tremendous successes
1891
01:24:44,818 --> 01:24:46,994
and then I'm off
to the next one.
1892
01:24:47,125 --> 01:24:49,736
I just don't like wasting
time on the past.
1893
01:24:49,867 --> 01:24:52,782
I don't like to analyze myself
1894
01:24:52,913 --> 01:24:55,264
because I might not
like what I see.
1895
01:24:58,528 --> 01:25:00,398
♪
1896
01:25:00,530 --> 01:25:02,749
- Mr. President,
Mr. President...
1897
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,447
- Mr. President,
when was the last time
1898
01:25:04,577 --> 01:25:06,753
you discussed Trump--
when was the last--
1899
01:25:06,884 --> 01:25:09,800
when was the last time you
discussed Trump Tower Russia?
1900
01:25:09,930 --> 01:25:12,759
[indistinct chattering]
1901
01:25:12,889 --> 01:25:19,766
♪
1902
01:25:23,770 --> 01:25:26,599
[hip-hop music]
1903
01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:33,650
♪
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