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I'm the youngest of four kids.
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And we had a ladder
that went up to this attic.
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The attic was the playroom.
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That's where all the imagination came in,
all the make-believe stories.
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I would want to play
with my sisters and my brother.
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But I never had a speaking part.
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So I would therefore be
the pet of the family.
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But I had so much emotion
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and wanting to be heard as the youngest.
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When I was seven or eight, I started
doing these camps with my friends.
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And we did three musicals a summer.
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And that, like, sealed it for me.
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I just loved having a space
to be seen and heard.
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So much mugging, and so much being a ham.
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And it was like, I could do it for my job.
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It was amazing.
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I'm unstoppable
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I'm a Porsche with no brakes
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I'm invincible, yeah,
I win every single game
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I'm so powerful,
I don't need batteries to play
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I'm so confident, yeah,
I'm unstoppable today
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Unstoppable today,
unstoppable today
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Unstoppable today
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I'm unstoppable today
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Most superheroes start
from something very traumatic.
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Wanda Maximoff,
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orphaned at ten when a shell collapsed
their apartment building.
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{\an8}Something that they'd use and overcome.
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{\an8}And become a hero version of themselves.
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But they're always still vulnerable.
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There's a notion
that vulnerability is not heroic.
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But Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch,
is such a troubled and tragic heroine,
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{\an8}and yet still manages to be
an incredibly powerful character.
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{\an8}Wanda
in the Marvel Universe...
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{\an8}...is one of
the strongest superheroes ever.
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{\an8}Her vulnerability and her emotional life
is when she's at her most powerful.
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We get to see
that feelings are okay.
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You took everything from me.
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And sometimes,
life is not easy.
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It can be very turbulent.
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{\an8}But you have
everything you need inside of you.
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{\an8}We are the source of our own power.
Trauma happens to all of us.
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That's just part of life.
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We can't reverse death,
no matter how sad it makes us.
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But we can get through it.
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I lost the person
closest to me, too.
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{\an8}There are extreme issues
that these characters are dealing with.
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I can't control this pain anymore.
And I don't think I want to.
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But we can take their motivations
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and bring it into our own lives,
and it empowers us.
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I think there's something
about the power of "I can"
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{\an8}that somehow rings a bell.
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And your superheroness
shows up at that door.
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Who is Wanda Maximoff?
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Very complicated answer.
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I think at the most simple, it's...
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Wanda came from
an immensely traumatic childhood.
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She was radicalized and was given
the power of the Mind Stone.
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{\an8}Wanda Maximoff is from a made-up
Eastern European country called Sokovia,
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who lost both her parents
at a young age from a Stark bomb.
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{\an8}So she thinks that Tony Stark, Iron Man,
is one of the worst people on Earth,
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{\an8}and volunteers for a program
that could do experiments on her
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to potentially avenge
her parents' death with her brother.
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{\an8}When we first meet Wanda in the movies,
she's part of Hydra, um,
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and she's being experimented upon
in their facility with her brother.
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And she's framed as this kind of creepy,
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uber-powerful goth girl
with telekinetic powers.
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But once she realizes that she's being
somewhat manipulated by Ultron...
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You said we would destroy the Avengers,
make a better world.
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It will be better.
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When everyone is dead?
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She changes her tune
and, and joins our heroes
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and, and becomes a part of the Avengers.
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She loses her brother,
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who's her everything.
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He was her last remaining tie
to her humanity.
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And so the Avengers becomes
a surrogate family for her.
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So she's now processing
a lot of grief and trauma
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that she has dealt with
as a displaced person.
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But she's able to sort of
keep moving forward
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but not really
at a full version of herself.
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{\an8}We see her almost as a young, fragile girl
who's encouraged to seize her power.
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Doesn't matter what you did
or what you were.
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If you step out that door,
you are an Avenger.
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It's a character
that has a huge evolution.
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And Elizabeth was
the perfect person to play this
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because she has such depth
and complexity as an actress,
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and such vulnerability.
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But to see where the character's gone,
I honestly never could've imagined.
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She's a magical gal in a small-town locale
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He's a hubby who's part machine
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How will this duo fit in and fulfill...
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With WandaVision
it was this gorgeous opportunity
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to see so many other sides of her.
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{\an8}Wanda
WandaVision
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- Is that...
- Yeah, it looks like her.
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You move at...
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In WandaVision, we get
to see her be funny, and silly,
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and sweet, and charming, and effervescent.
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Yes! Yes!
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Such a strange sensation.
It's kind of fluttery.
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Jeez Louise, did you have
to learn to walk?
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I finally got to be funny.
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- WandaVision.
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You're welcome to draw
your own conclusions,
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but that's just where I'm at.
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{\an8}Wanda's literally trying to escape
her grief through television.
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This dream world where she doesn't
have to face any of her sadness.
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Zip. Zero. Zilch.
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She has an entire town captive,
living in a sitcom space.
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- What are we lookin' at here?
- It's a sitcom.
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The comfort for her are
these TV shows that she loved as a kid.
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And because she happens to be
an enormously powerful psychic individual,
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she can literally physicalize
that comfort for herself.
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Well, we're just tickled pink.
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It's the most ambitious possible concept.
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It's over decades, it's through sitcoms,
it's just unbelievable.
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WandaVision!
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What are they?
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What the stone was warning me about.
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These superhero movies become
the highest stakes every time.
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The world's ending
or computers are taking over.
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There's something so massive.
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But the really human experience
of falling in love
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and finding a partnership and a comfort...
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- We should've stayed in bed.
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...is such a basic desire and need.
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So that is the element
that we took from these movies
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and blew up for WandaVision,
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and made it
the central relationship to root for.
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So as opposed to saving a planet,
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it became trying to save
this relationship.
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{\an8}We wanted to bring a little bit more
of that personal journey for her
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{\an8}and how it can be developed with Vision.
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Thank you for humoring me
and wearing this ridiculous getup.
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I know you have a secret thing
for Mexican wrestlers.
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- Oh!
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In the comic books,
Wanda Maximoff was a mutant.
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She was born with the power
to manipulate probability,
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which is a crazy power,
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{\an8}and so was always a bit on the fringes
of people not trusting her,
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{\an8}people not understanding
how she could be heroic
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when she didn't punch the hardest
or shoot bolts out of her hands.
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And then later, in the Avengers,
people not quite understanding
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her relationship with the Vision,
because he was a synthezoid.
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In the comics,
Wanda and Vision's relationship
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is a big part of the story
that we wanted to bring forward.
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So it was exciting to me that
that's where I ended up with WandaVision
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and we were able to honor the comics.
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I loved seeing Wanda Maximoff
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in this flourishing,
loving relationship with Vision.
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Aw.
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I loved seeing her as a mother.
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We get to live in a bubble
with her for a little while
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that she never got to live out.
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{\an8}Wanda Maximoff gets her own space
in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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And we get to see what an ideal life
for Wanda and Vision actually looks like.
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{\an8}Through Vision, she has found comfort...
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All I feel is excitement, happiness.
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...after the loss
of her parents and her brother.
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And so this idea of family being
this ultimate need for her
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is the "why" for WandaVision.
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{\an8}I remember whenever
I watched those movies...
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I haven't actually ever
eaten anything before, so...
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- May I?
- Please.
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...seeing those little moments
between them,
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and just feeling so much for them
in the middle of all this chaos.
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- What is it?
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The irony is not lost on me
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that the most human of the Avengers
happens to be the android.
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I'm sorry.
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His purity and vulnerability is so tender.
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So I was very excited
to be a part of something
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that took those little moments
and drew them out.
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The arc of Wanda and Vision
in the movies and in the show
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{\an8}is the love story of people
who find this commonality
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{\an8}in being different than everyone else.
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So, when the Vision is taken from her
at the end of Infinity War...
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...you also understand the psychology
that thrust her into WandaVision.
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No!
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It was the ultimate loss
that she could have.
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After the loss of
her parents and her brother,
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then for Vision, who helped her
find her footing, to be ripped from her.
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{\an8}Really at that point,
she truly had nothing.
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We always knew that WandaVision
would be the story of Wanda's grief...
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What is grief, if not love persevering?
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And that we wanted to see
her become the Scarlet Witch.
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And so to do that,
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we aligned the episodes
according to the stages of grief.
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It's a special day!
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- Perhaps an evening...
- Of great significance...
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- To us both!
- Naturally.
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You really are very dashing.
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Mmm. Thank you, darling.
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- It stopped.
- Yes.
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The first three episodes
really are in the denial space...
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Have a good day, dear!
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...especially the first episode
in the 1950s.
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I mean, that's post-war optimism
and it's peak sort of appearances only,
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where Wanda didn't have to plum
any of her own depths at all.
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And looking at shows
like The Dick van Dyke Show,
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and Bewitched,
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there's this real sort of frothy,
sexy innocence to those couples.
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And to see Wanda and Vision be loose
and in love and unencumbered.
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- You were tremendous, Glamour.
- As were you, Illusion.
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There is an element of denial in there.
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I have everything under control.
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Wanda creates
a safe place
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{\an8}where she can try to live out
the life she thought she was owed.
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Welcome home.
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Shall we stay in tonight?
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{\an8}If I could create my own world
and be happy for a short time,
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{\an8}wouldn't we all do that?
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We wanted to pay Wanda the respect
of taking her mental health seriously.
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And so we had a grief counselor come
and speak to the writers of the show,
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which was really helpful
making the story of Wanda's pain...
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...a black dress.
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...have all of those layers.
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{\an8}It's so helpful when you know
that the people behind the scenes
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{\an8}identify with your character.
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Teyonah's character, Monica Rambeau,
of course, loses her mom.
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{\an8}When we first meet Monica,
she's trying to process
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{\an8}what it's like to lose her mom.
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- Dr. Highland!
- I can't believe it.
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Where's my mom?
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Your mom, she died, honey.
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- What?
- The cancer came back.
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Okay, stop, stop. No, you're...
My mom is Maria Rambeau.
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I have a really,
really close relationship with my mom,
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and she's pretty much my best friend.
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I cannot imagine going through life
and some of the things I've been through
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without her support and love.
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But how Monica feels
with the loss of her mom
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is she just wants to get back to work.
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Monica Rambeau, S.W.O.R.D.
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She doesn't want to deal with
falling too deeply into the loss.
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She is really compartmentalizing,
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and says, "You know what?
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"That will be dealt with,
but right now there's other things to do."
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Maximoff located.
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Well done.
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She's also processing her grief
by trying to help Wanda...
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This is Captain Monica Rambeau.
Can you hear me?
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...by just being
a voice of reason for her.
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I just wanna talk. That's it.
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Both of them
are in denial,
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trying to not address
what they really need.
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{\an8}And I think that's a big part of the show,
is like, figuring out what you need.
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Who are you?
250
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Wanda's really good at anger.
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At the end of Episode Three,
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Wanda sees Monica as being a threat.
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Wanda feels threatened
at the moment she becomes a mother.
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Wanda...
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And so mama bear really kicks in.
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And any other that feels like
a potential threat to her and her family,
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like, just forget about it.
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You're definitely not my friend.
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And then we see in Episode Four
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that she kicks Monica out
of this hex that she created.
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But what Wanda didn't realize
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was Monica Rambeau,
the person that she feared the most...
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...was the woman who was
her real, honest ally.
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But what took over her judgment was anger.
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But Monica keeps going,
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trying to be a voice
and an ally, really, for her.
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The thing that is always unspoken
is their mutual pain of loss.
268
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And that is something
that really connects Monica and Wanda.
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At the end of Episode Five,
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we see Wanda wants
to keep things as they are.
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Our big bargaining moment is
when she storms out of the hex...
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Is this yours?
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...then interfaces with Hayward.
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Stay out of my home.
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You don't bother me, I won't bother you.
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I wish it could be that simple.
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It's her trying to, you know,
have her cake and eat it, too.
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You've taken an entire town hostage.
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Well, I'm not the one
with the guns, Director.
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But this is not something
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where, like,
she, doesn't have a handle.
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It's like, no, actually, she is very much
in control of everything.
283
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What could you possibly have to offer me?
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With bargaining...
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What do you want?
286
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...Monica tries to move in
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with the least amount
of impact and destruction.
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It's about understanding really
what's going on with people
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and trying to untangle things.
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I want to help you.
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Monica is coming in, saying,
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"Let me help you."
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{\an8}And that's just not the place
that Wanda is in.
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- Wanda.
- Stand down.
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She's going through grief.
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And she didn't want to accept
that this woman
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is potentially someone
that could help her.
298
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And so she goes back
to this safe space she created.
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Look, we've all been there, right?
300
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Letting our fear and anger
get the best of us,
301
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intentionally expanding the borders
of the false world we created.
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We had a lot of fun
with Episode Seven,
303
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{\an8}leaning into the tropes
of depression, you know.
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She's in her pajamas,
and her hair's messy,
305
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and she's eating,
and she's watching TV,
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all that sort of like
"girl who's been dumped,"
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you know, like,
"can't kind of keep it together."
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I'd get up, but...
I... just don't want to.
309
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But the subtext is so much more profound.
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Who hasn't had those moments
of depression, or anxiety, or pain?
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It's probably just a case of the Mondays.
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Am I right?
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And there's something
different on the inside
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{\an8}than they're presenting to the world.
315
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{\an8}I mean, it's so human.
316
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You really can see how vulnerable she is,
how fragile she is.
317
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I'm fine.
I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine.
318
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I'm fine.
319
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Everyone goes through loss...
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I'm fine.
321
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{\an8}...and to explore that
on such an intimate level,
322
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{\an8}I found really, um, cathartic.
323
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My dad died
almost seven years ago of cancer,
324
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and so I knew how difficult it was
to go through that.
325
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You lose a little bit of yourself
and implode a little bit.
326
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We all in different ways can relate
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to a feeling of either
loneliness or abandonment
328
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in different aspects of our life.
329
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And feeling like
there's no bottom to hold you.
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Her acceptance is
when Agatha offers her
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the opportunity to live without pain.
332
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The name's Agatha Harkness.
Lovely to finally meet you, dear.
333
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What I thought was so brilliant
was that we would see
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Agatha first playing
a character called Agnes,
335
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this nosy neighbor trope
that we've seen in sitcoms
336
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{\an8}throughout the entirety of sitcoms.
337
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Oh!
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Hello, dear.
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- Hiya, kids.
340
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Hi, Agnes, come on in.
341
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{\an8}I think it was really fun
and challenging to write Agatha.
342
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That you should stumble when
you walk into a room so he can catch you.
343
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Because she is a mentor
and a villain and a friend.
344
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And to kind of set her up as Agnes,
who's like that friend that's there
345
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and always comes in when she needs help.
346
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Auntie Agnes is here, and I've got
a couple of tricks up my sleeve.
347
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- Why don't we give your mom some me time?
348
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But then you see
that she is like a succubus,
349
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{\an8}constantly on the prowl for more power.
350
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{\an8}Agatha Harkness is
a centuries-old witch...
351
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...that has been told that she was bad.
352
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You have betrayed your coven.
353
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Please...
354
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I can be good.
355
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No, you cannot.
356
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And so what happens to a being...
357
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...that is told that they are not worthy?
358
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Is that of course it becomes this person.
359
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I think that's very relatable to anyone
360
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that, like myself, would consider
themselves a weirdo.
361
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When I was a kid in Cleveland,
I had a lot of feelings of self-doubt.
362
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But I knew I was gonna be an actor.
363
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I felt the biggest,
and most beautiful and powerful,
364
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and most myself, when I was performing.
365
00:24:05,026 --> 00:24:10,031
And to be able to have scale
and have voice and have power
366
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was a really thrilling thing
about this part.
367
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{\an8}And I think Agatha considered herself
368
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{\an8}the most powerful witch
that there ever had been
369
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{\an8}before this young hotshot showed up...
370
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...who's created a world
and held hundreds of people captive.
371
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A lot of jealousy and a lot of also just
372
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trying to figure out how,
and then steal it.
373
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Wanda, Wanda.
374
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You didn't think you were
the only magical girl in town, did you?
375
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So finally, Agnes shows herself
as Agatha to Wanda.
376
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I need you to tell me how you did this.
377
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I didn't do anything.
378
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From Agatha,
379
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Wanda is given this gift
of knowledge and tools...
380
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You'd rather fall apart
than face your truth.
381
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...that help her process her grief.
382
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Parents dead.
383
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Brother dead.
384
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- Vision dead.
385
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,523
What happened when he wasn't there
to pull you back from the darkness, Wanda?
386
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:26,775
- I can't do this anymore...
- Come on, Wanda.
387
00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:29,653
You are right there.
388
00:25:29,653 --> 00:25:33,490
And one of her tools is the Darkhold.
389
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Did you know there's an entire chapter
devoted to you in the Darkhold?
390
00:25:39,454 --> 00:25:41,456
That's the Book of the Damned.
391
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:45,794
And it's something
that Wanda learns from.
392
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Your power exceeds
that of the Sorcerer Supreme.
393
00:25:49,756 --> 00:25:52,175
I'm not a witch. I don't cast spells.
394
00:25:52,175 --> 00:25:53,385
Oh, really?
395
00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:55,679
{\an8}She didn't really know
the extent of her powers.
396
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,305
{\an8}They'd gotten away from her.
397
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{\an8}And she's forced to look inward
to solve that problem,
398
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once she learns from the Darkhold
399
00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:05,772
that she's created this bubble
so she didn't have to deal with her grief.
400
00:26:05,772 --> 00:26:07,315
We feel your pain.
401
00:26:07,315 --> 00:26:10,151
- No. No, stop.
- Your grief is poisoning us.
402
00:26:10,151 --> 00:26:12,362
- Please, let us go.
- Please stop.
403
00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:15,574
Once Wanda realizes
that the reality is of her own making,
404
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:17,158
she can't un-know.
405
00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:20,704
{\an8}And we go with her
on a journey of self-discovery.
406
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:25,709
She has to choose
between this false world she's created
407
00:26:25,709 --> 00:26:29,504
and the safety and happiness
of innocent people.
408
00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:32,841
And Wanda Maximoff is,
in her core, a hero.
409
00:26:32,841 --> 00:26:35,510
I will let you go. I will. I will.
410
00:26:36,636 --> 00:26:39,764
She owns her power,
quite literally,
411
00:26:40,432 --> 00:26:44,060
and embraces that part of her
that she was running away from.
412
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:54,237
It's her acceptance.
413
00:26:57,782 --> 00:26:59,492
Come on, run!
414
00:26:59,492 --> 00:27:02,954
The lesson is, maybe you have
more power than you think you do.
415
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:04,831
That's Wanda's whole arc.
416
00:27:06,207 --> 00:27:09,252
And it's only by realizing
that the power is inside her...
417
00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:12,631
that she can control her power.
418
00:27:16,343 --> 00:27:19,346
And we see her become the Scarlet Witch.
419
00:27:30,857 --> 00:27:35,070
We all have
to confront grief sooner or later,
420
00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:37,447
but this makes you stronger.
421
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:42,285
{\an8}I have personal losses in my life.
422
00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:45,664
{\an8}And I tell you that it's two ways,
423
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,291
you go down or you go upward.
424
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:53,713
And she became strong
through acknowledging this,
425
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,967
so she could become the Scarlet Witch.
426
00:28:00,136 --> 00:28:04,391
And so now having this new discovery
of her own mythology,
427
00:28:04,391 --> 00:28:05,934
of being this witch,
428
00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:10,647
is where we pick up with her
in Doctor Strange.
429
00:28:10,647 --> 00:28:11,606
The Darkhold.
430
00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:13,358
You're familiar with the Darkhold.
431
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,026
I know it's the Book of the Damned.
432
00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:17,070
The Darkhold only showed me the truth.
433
00:28:17,737 --> 00:28:19,781
Doctor Strange
in the Multiverse of Madness,
434
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:22,784
that power has grown even more
since she started to study the Darkhold.
435
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:26,913
If you knew there was a universe
where you were happy...
436
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:28,665
- Chocolate!
- Hey!
437
00:28:29,165 --> 00:28:30,542
...wouldn't you wanna go there?
438
00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:33,795
She wants to recapture
this family nucleus
439
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:36,756
that she created from WandaVision.
440
00:28:36,756 --> 00:28:38,842
I'm going to leave this reality,
441
00:28:38,842 --> 00:28:41,261
and go to one
where I can be with my children.
442
00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:44,514
This is where she uses the most power
443
00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:46,516
that she has yet.
444
00:28:47,267 --> 00:28:49,519
And it's for the love of her children.
445
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,822
In a negative way,
446
00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:05,618
Wanda Maximoff could be distilled
into female hysteria.
447
00:29:06,703 --> 00:29:09,706
But the way I like to think of her arc
448
00:29:10,206 --> 00:29:11,958
is through mental health.
449
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:17,714
We're in this amazing time
of embracing mental health,
450
00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:20,717
and it becoming less taboo
to use the language
451
00:29:20,717 --> 00:29:23,094
of depression, and panic and anxiety.
452
00:29:24,888 --> 00:29:27,891
And the more we can tell stories about it,
453
00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,852
- then the people having the experiences,
-
454
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:33,730
potentially, could stop feeling shame
455
00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:35,732
or isolation.
456
00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:39,819
And that's a very important topic for me
457
00:29:39,819 --> 00:29:43,823
because it's everywhere
and we don't see it,
458
00:29:43,823 --> 00:29:44,991
because it's private,
459
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:48,578
but you need to communicate with someone.
460
00:29:50,205 --> 00:29:52,415
It shouldn't be
an, an isolated experience.
461
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:03,968
{\an8}I am Dr. Janina Scarlet.
462
00:30:03,968 --> 00:30:07,430
{\an8}I am a clinical psychologist,
author and a full-time-geek.
463
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,809
{\an8}And my favorite character in the MCU
is Wanda Maximoff,
464
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:12,435
aka the Scarlet Witch.
465
00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:19,025
When I was a small child,
my family and I lived in Ukraine,
466
00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:23,488
and I was exposed to Chernobyl radiation.
467
00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:27,867
I spent most of my childhood
in and out of the hospital,
468
00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:31,412
not knowing
if I would make it to adulthood.
469
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:36,084
When I was 12,
470
00:30:36,292 --> 00:30:39,379
my family and I managed to immigrate
to the United States
471
00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:41,005
as refugees in secret
472
00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:43,758
in order to get away from violence.
473
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:47,345
I had experienced health trauma,
I had been subjected to bullying,
474
00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:48,763
antisemitism.
475
00:30:51,641 --> 00:30:55,353
And so I was that awkward and weird kid
476
00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:57,480
that didn't quite fit in.
477
00:30:58,773 --> 00:31:01,192
I thought I was the only one going through
478
00:31:01,192 --> 00:31:03,987
PTSD and depression and anxiety,
479
00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:05,822
but I didn't know any of those terms,
480
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,950
because nobody talked about mental health.
481
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:14,998
And so I really became fascinated
with Wanda
482
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:20,211
when I went to see Age of Ultron.
483
00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:28,303
Watching the way that she deals
with trauma and grief
484
00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:29,512
really resonated with me.
485
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:33,433
Like Wanda,
486
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:39,272
I had to learn that the only way we heal
is by processing our emotions.
487
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:43,067
And, like Wanda,
488
00:31:43,067 --> 00:31:45,820
it was a really painful lesson
for me to learn,
489
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:47,238
but it was a life-changing one.
490
00:31:51,659 --> 00:31:52,493
A lot of times,
491
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:57,415
what I do with my clients
is ask who their favorite superhero is.
492
00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:02,003
And if there was a time that character
went through loss, grief, or trauma
493
00:32:02,545 --> 00:32:04,047
that they can relate to.
494
00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:07,425
Because realizing
that there is at least one other person,
495
00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:11,137
or even a fictional character,
that has gone through something similar
496
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:13,765
can allow that person to feel less alone.
497
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:17,560
And can actually help people understand
that their traumatic experience
498
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,228
is merely an origin story,
499
00:32:19,228 --> 00:32:22,106
but the rest of our life choices
are up to us.
500
00:32:23,358 --> 00:32:27,862
Seeing Wanda become the Scarlet Witch
was a really important reminder for me
501
00:32:27,862 --> 00:32:33,493
that I had my identity change
from the little quiet girl that I was,
502
00:32:33,493 --> 00:32:35,745
to the woman that I am now.
503
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:41,125
And that I was able to find
what my own superpower is,
504
00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:46,255
so that I can help other people
find their own superpowers, too.
505
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:52,887
{\an8}I think most people can find a superhero
that they specifically relate to.
506
00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:55,556
I think that's
the power of, of superheroes.
507
00:32:55,556 --> 00:32:56,766
Oh, no!
508
00:32:58,059 --> 00:32:59,686
If watching WandaVision...
509
00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:01,062
Oh, that's better.
510
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,815
...And seeing these women in these roles
511
00:33:04,607 --> 00:33:07,652
had helped anybody through a tough time,
512
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:10,697
or helped them to find their own power,
513
00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:15,368
or to not be afraid to be weird
or not afraid to come out,
514
00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,662
not afraid to, like,
be exactly who they are
515
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:19,914
in their beautiful, whole selves,
516
00:33:19,914 --> 00:33:23,376
then I'll never forget it,
and I'll hold that to my heart forever.
517
00:33:25,294 --> 00:33:27,255
Superheroes are
not always successful,
518
00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:28,840
and they don't
always make right choices.
519
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,843
But to see someone
try to use their power for good
520
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:36,305
{\an8}I think is just so important
to internalize and to aspire to.
521
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,017
Playing this character,
522
00:33:39,017 --> 00:33:43,396
it's quite literally been
watching a young woman become a woman,
523
00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:46,190
and have emotional growth...
524
00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:49,110
...and acceptance and love for herself.
525
00:33:50,445 --> 00:33:53,031
And I think we all
in different ways in our lives...
526
00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:53,948
I love you.
527
00:33:54,198 --> 00:33:56,284
...can relate to Wanda's journey.
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