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[Birds chirping]
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- Jump.
- [Dog barks]
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[Cast members shouting]
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This one is heavy!
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Over here.
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Need some help.
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[Soldier] Be prepared!
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[Director] And out! Back to one.
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I'm still not entirely sure
how to...
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You'll wake up very sore
tomorrow, I would say. Yeah.
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Your volume's on,
you'll be able to hear everything.
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[Chafienng]
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[Sobbing, breathing heavily]
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I really want to.
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But, you know...
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You're scared.
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Anyone would be.
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Do you really think
speaking out might stop him?
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I think it's really important for
voters to have this information
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as they determine whether
he's fit to be president.
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What if he decides to sue?
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Would the New York times
be willing to help me?
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News organizations
can't provide legal support.
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You'd be on your own.
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[Chafienng]
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[Chattering continues]
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[Line ringing]
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[Reporter] Hl; Rachel?
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And you're definitely going to write
about Jessica Leeds?
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Jessica is absolutely
on board 100%.
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[Rachel] Okay.
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I'll do it. I'll go on the record
and say what he did to me.
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You will? That's great, Rachel.
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Thank you.
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[Reporter on TV] .../'/7 New Hampshire,
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asking voters there to reelect
the republican senator
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as a check and balance.
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[Chattering on TV]
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- Violet, no.
- [Crying]
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Baby, momma's gotta go to work.
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You're gonna stay with daddy, okay?
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Violet. Violet.
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Mom's gonna go to work. Come on.
Let's go see your animals.
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- Come on.
- Talia, you're my hero.
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[Talia]
Wanna show me your elephant?
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[Person chattering on podcast]
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[News reporter on TV] We didn't
find any e vidence of evil intent.
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You can't obstruct justice there.
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[Reporter] Morning, Jodi.
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[Chafienng]
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[News anchor] They might not be as
enthusiastic as they were four years ago,
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but we know where they are.
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We know where young people are. We know...
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Okay, just give him a call.
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- Were you sick again?
- [Reporter] Yeah.
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It's meant to stop
after the first trimester.
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- You should probably get some sleep.
- Mmm.
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Mmm.
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I will as soon as
I get a response.
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From trump's people?
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What happens
if they don't respond?
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They will,
but we can't publish until they do.
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[Speaking Hebrew]
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[Cell phone buzzes]
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- Hello?
- [Trump] Is this Megan twohey?
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Yes, Mr. Trump.
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I do not know these women. They are lying.
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And if I did something to them,
why didn't they go to the police 7
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Jessica Leeds and Rachel crooks
didn't ever say that they knew you,
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just that they were chance encounters.
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The New York times
has concocted these stories,
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and if you publish them, / will sue.
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What about the leaked
access Hollywood tape?
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Do you do those things?
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I don't do it.
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I don't do it.
It was locker-room talk.
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And, Mr. Trump, miss Utah,
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she claimed you
forcibly kissed her more than once
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when you owned
the miss america pageant.
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She's lying. You are disgusting.
You are a disgusting human being.
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- [Line clicks]
- [Sighs]
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[CBS news anchor]
Several women speaking out,
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accusing Donald Trump
of touching them inappropriately.
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Jessica Leeds and Rachel crooks,
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telling the New York times they were both
groped or kissed by trump without consent
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[CNN news anchor] ...For a company
located in trump tower,
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claims the billionaire kissed her
on the cheeks and the mouth.
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[Gasps] Oh, my god.
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Fuck. Rachel, I'm so sorry.
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[Rachel] / went on the record,
you published, and this is what happened
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[Megan] Yeah, I'm so sorry.
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I was prepared, you know?
But not for this.
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An envelope full of shit?
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Was there anything
written on it?
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No. What can I do 7
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- I can't even leave the house.
- Oh, yeah, fuck.
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Well, you need to write everything down.
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Tape any conversations or voice mails.
You need to document any threats you get...
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- Megan twohey?
- Yeah. That's us.
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[Megan] I can't even imagine.
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Shit. Rachel, I'm sorry.
I have to go.
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I'll call you back. I promise.
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- [Sighs]
- [Cell phone ringing]
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Rachel?
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[Journalist] I'm calling
from bill 0 'Reilly at fox news.
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Are you a feminist?
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[Sighs]
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Are you fucking kidding me?
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[Chuckles] I'm sorry. Hi. Hi.
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- The final push till election day.
- [Cell phone chimes]
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And as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
make their closing arguments...
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- Bill O'Reilly's talking about you.
- The race has tightened even more.
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[Typing]
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[O'Reilly] The factor
asked miss twohe y to appear this evening.
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She declined, no surprise.
This is a tough forum.
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She and Mr. Barbara did appear
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- on other cable outlets...
- [Megan sighs]
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Friendly to liberal points of view.
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We asked miss twohe y
if she herself is a feminist,
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- both on the phone and in writing.
- [Sighs]
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She declined to answer
in both cases.
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I'm gonna go get some noodles.
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[O'Reilly] Here's what she said
about the article yesterday.
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[Megan] You know, our story
is the experience of man y women,
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going back over the years.
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[Cell phone ringing]
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Hello?
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[Intimidator] I am going to rape you
and murder you,
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and dump your body in the Hudson river.
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[Line clicks]
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[CNN news anchor 1] This n/ght
is turning out to be a real nail-biter.
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[CNN news anchor 2] CNN can report
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that Hillary Clinton has called
Donald Trump to concede the race.
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[CNN news anchor 1] CNN projects
Donald Trump wins the presidency.
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[Reporter] Breaking news on bill O'Reilly.
Let's go to Julia boorstin. Julia.
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[Julia] That's rr'ght. Fox has just
announced that b/ll O'Reilly is out,
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saying, quote, '94 ftera thorough
and careful re view of the allegations,
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the company and bill c Reilly ha ve agreed
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that b/ll c 'Reilly will not be returning
to the fox news channel. ”
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Of course, this follows the boycott of
over 50 advertisers of the O'Reilly factor
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aftera New York times report
of sexual harassment allegations
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and the report that fox and O'Reilly
together spent about $ 73 million
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to settle those allegations
from five difi'erent women.
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So, the story...
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- Job well done, Emily.
- Thanks, Dean.
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And you, Mike.
Excellent reporting.
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[J ulia]...Not be returning
to his top-rated cable show
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are we talking solely
corporate misuse of power?
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No. We're talking all workplaces
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where sexual harassment
might happen.
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Also, let's look for the enablers.
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Fox kept O'Reilly on for quite some time
after our story broke.
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And for decades before that.
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The network only ousted him
when the advertisers jumped ship.
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Let's interrogate the whole system.
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Why is sexual harassment so pervasive
and so hard to address?
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[Chafienng]
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Hey, do you guys have a minute?
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Sure.
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So, I spoke to shaunna Thomas,
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the head of ultraviolet,
a feminist group.
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She said the wrongdoing in Hollywood
is ovennhelming.
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She's in touch with an actress,
Rose mcgowan,
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who has tweeted about
being raped by a producer.
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Thomas says it's Harvey weinstein.
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And that mcgowan is now
working on a book about it.
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Wasn't he charged with something
a couple years ago?
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Yeah. Um...
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Ambra battilana Gutierrez,
an Italian model.
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She claimed weinstein groped her
in a business meeting.
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The NYPD investigated it,
but he was never charged.
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Talk to Rose mcgowan.
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Try to talk to other actresses
he's worked with.
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Yeah, and I'll try to reach ex-employees.
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Hi. My name is Jodi kantor.
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I'm an in vest/gative repon'er
for the New York times.
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We 're looking into sexual harassment
in the workplace.
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Ibelie ve you were an employee at miramax
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and worked for Harvey weinstein
in the £905.
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[Former assistant] Are you recording this?
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No, absolutely not.
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I won't quote from this conversation
without your permission.
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But in your time as an assistant,
were you aware of any instances
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in which Harvey weinstein treated women
inappropriately or crossed a line?
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[Chuckles] Did Harvey cross a line?
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- [Scoffs]
- [Line clicks]
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Would you like to hear
her heartbeat?
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- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
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[Heartbeat thumping]
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[Jodi] Mary,
thanks so much for calling me back
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[Mary] Who have you talked to?
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I can't tell you names,
just as I would never divulge yours,
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but if you wanted to
share anything that you know,
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that would be so helpful.
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I don't think people
will want to talk.
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Sony.
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[Line clicks]
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[Laughs]
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[Jodi] Ms. Godreche, thank you so much
for responding.
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[God reche] Before you continue,
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I've talked about weinstein r'n the past,
but in private.
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My immigration lawyer
does not want me to be involved.
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[Line clicks]
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Involved in what?
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[Line ringing]
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- Hello?
- Oh, hi, Rose.
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Um, this is Jodi kantor
from the New York 77mes.
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I wrote you an email.
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Shaunna Thomas suggested you might be
willing to have a conversation with me
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about Hollywood,
and specifically Harvey weinstein.
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Are you writing about him?
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Yes, I am.
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Look, I don't feel that inclined
to talk to you about r't.
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[Jodi] Could I ask why not?
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I've been treated quite shabbily
by your paper numerous times,
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and I believe the root of it
is sexism.
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I'm sorry that
was your experience.
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I've talked in the past,
and nothing happened
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I spoke at a political meeting recently,
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and the New York times put it
in the style section.
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It does damage to shout,
and no one listens.
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I'm investigating systemic sexism
in Hollywood.
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How many pages have you got?
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I put myself on the lr'ne before,
and it made no difference.
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I've written about the workplace
at Amazon, Starbucks,
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and Harvard business school,
and change did happen.
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They reformed their policies
as a direct result of the times articles.
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But if you don't wanna talk, I understand.
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And good luck with your book.
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Thank you. Goodbye.
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[Jodi's husband] I spoke to dad.
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He sounded worse.
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I gotta go see him soon.
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Could you go for a long weekend?
You could take the girls.
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I could take Talia,
but not both of them.
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I'm having an affair...
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With a very famous actress.
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You want her number?
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[Chuckles]
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- She's so hot.
- [Laughs]
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This looks beautiful.
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You'd really like her.
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[Laughs]
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”/ am a nasty woman."
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[Crowd cheers]
246
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"I'm not as nasty as using little girls
like poke'mon
247
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before their bodies have even developed"
248
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- is that Ashley judd?
- Yeah.
249
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She wrote about being sexually harassed
by a producer in the '903.
250
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She doesn't name him,
but she describes him as
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"one of our industry's
most famous admired/reviled bosses."
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[Ashley]
”homophobia, sexual assault,
253
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transphobia, white supremacy,
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-misogyny, /gnorance, white priv/lege. ”
-[Violet crying]
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00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,173
- I'll go?
- I'll get her.
256
00:16:05,257 --> 00:16:06,967
- [Talia] Mom!
- [Crying continues]
257
00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:08,385
[Chuckles]
258
00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:09,970
- We'll both go.
- Yeah.
259
00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,683
I don't know if I can do this. [Cries]
260
00:16:16,935 --> 00:16:18,478
[Megan's husband] You need to rest.
261
00:16:19,646 --> 00:16:21,731
Can you try to sleep, maybe?
262
00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:24,985
I don't wanna be...
263
00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:30,991
I just have this constant sense of dread.
[Cries]
264
00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:32,534
You're tired.
265
00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:34,995
Your body's exhausted.
266
00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:36,079
[Megan exhales]
267
00:16:37,205 --> 00:16:39,291
I think I would know if it was just that.
268
00:16:44,462 --> 00:16:45,672
[Cell phone buzzing]
269
00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:46,756
Mom.
270
00:16:50,093 --> 00:16:51,595
[Buzzing continues]
271
00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:56,266
Hello?
272
00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,060
It's Rose. Mcgowan.
273
00:16:59,144 --> 00:17:00,645
Rose, hi.
274
00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:03,523
It's not just h/m you should be after.
275
00:17:03,607 --> 00:17:06,484
There is an entire machine.
A supply chain.
276
00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:09,029
Of abusers in Hollywood?
277
00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:10,113
Right.
278
00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:14,993
They're worldwide,
wherever mo vies are being made or sold
279
00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:18,538
each studio does the victim-shaming
and payouts.
280
00:17:19,122 --> 00:17:22,083
If white men could have a playground
this would be r't.
281
00:17:25,086 --> 00:17:26,504
Do people know about it?
282
00:17:27,047 --> 00:17:28,715
[Chuckles] Of course.
283
00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:31,218
I told a lot of people
what happened to me.
284
00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:34,596
At the Sundance film festival?
285
00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:35,847
I was 23.
286
00:17:35,931 --> 00:17:38,767
I was doing all these brilliant
independent films.
287
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I was just incredibly hopeful.
288
00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:42,437
[Door opens]
289
00:17:43,104 --> 00:17:45,398
- Hi.
- And then I went to that hotel room.
290
00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:47,567
[Door closes]
291
00:17:47,651 --> 00:17:49,027
[Jodi's husband] Talia?
292
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:50,403
I'm here.
293
00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:55,408
[Rose] He was on a sofa,
talking loudly on his phone.
294
00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:56,826
I waited
295
00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:59,120
and then we talked about projects,
296
00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:03,875
and he suddenly sa/d,
”I have a jacuzzi in my room."
297
00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:09,506
I didn't know what the answer
to that was, so I just kept talking.
298
00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:14,344
We wrapped up,
and he said he'd walk me out.
299
00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,555
And / thought, ”well, that went well.”
300
00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:19,641
It was my first big meeting.
301
00:18:20,308 --> 00:18:22,269
He walked behind me down a hallway,
302
00:18:22,978 --> 00:18:26,022
and then he said,
”this is the jacuzzi room."
303
00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:30,860
And / looked in, and he pushed me inside.
304
00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:32,862
He str/pped me.
305
00:18:34,531 --> 00:18:36,741
And he was suddenly naked
306
00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:40,453
I left my body in some way.
307
00:18:41,913 --> 00:18:43,415
And he raped me.
308
00:18:44,916 --> 00:18:47,627
I went into survival mode to get out,
309
00:18:47,711 --> 00:18:49,671
and I faked an orgasm.
310
00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,007
He told me to get dressed
311
00:18:52,841 --> 00:18:56,553
he left me messages telling me
I was his new special friend
312
00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:59,597
and that he'd done a lot
for other actresses.
313
00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:01,599
Did you report it?
314
00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:05,478
Can you see the law
taking my side on that?
315
00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:10,400
But you told other people?
316
00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:13,611
I told a lot of people,
and nobody did a thing.
317
00:19:14,321 --> 00:19:15,322
Nothing.
318
00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:20,577
Can I contact
the people you told?
319
00:19:21,286 --> 00:19:23,413
You told me this was private.
320
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:28,168
He '/I have spies watching you now,
as we speak
321
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,295
I hope you know that.
322
00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:47,187
[Sighs]
323
00:19:52,067 --> 00:19:53,651
- [Cell phone buzzing]
- [Baby cooing]
324
00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:55,403
Shh, shh, shh...
325
00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:58,073
[Whispers] Hello?
326
00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:00,033
Hey, Megan, this is jodr'kantor.
327
00:20:00,116 --> 00:20:01,201
Is this a bad time?
328
00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:04,662
Uh... um, no. It's fine.
329
00:20:04,746 --> 00:20:06,956
- [Baby cooing]
- Oh, / hear her.
330
00:20:07,665 --> 00:20:08,875
How's it all going?
331
00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:11,669
[Megan] Yeah, it's, um...
332
00:20:11,753 --> 00:20:13,630
I just got her down.
333
00:20:15,924 --> 00:20:17,759
It's the toughest part, I think.
334
00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:19,761
Is it?
335
00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:21,388
I found it to be so.
336
00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:25,475
With my first daughter,
I had postpartum depression.
337
00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:30,772
Everyone's so excited, and it's like...
338
00:20:32,273 --> 00:20:33,525
You're just not there.
339
00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:36,236
Right.
340
00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:40,615
So, I got your email.
341
00:20:41,408 --> 00:20:42,492
How's it all going?
342
00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:44,536
Yeah... [chuckles]
343
00:20:45,161 --> 00:20:48,498
I feel like there are
a lot of women who have...
344
00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:52,335
Been through something with him.
345
00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:56,589
But they find it hard to talk.
346
00:20:57,215 --> 00:21:00,552
And those who do talk to me
don't want to go on the record
347
00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:02,971
in your pre vr'ous stories,
348
00:21:04,139 --> 00:21:07,434
how did you persuade women
to tell you what had happened to them?
349
00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:10,937
Yeah, so...
350
00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:13,773
It's difficult.
351
00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:15,275
They're terrified.
352
00:21:16,234 --> 00:21:17,569
A case I made was,
353
00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:22,198
"you know, I can't change
what happened to you in the past,
354
00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:26,411
but together, we may be able
to use your experience
355
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,204
to help protect other people."
356
00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:31,541
The truth, basically
357
00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:33,376
but yeah.
358
00:21:33,877 --> 00:21:37,797
It's hard to ask women to talk.
359
00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,050
[Chafienng]
360
00:21:55,398 --> 00:22:00,028
[Ashley] Then he asked me
to meet him, uh, really early.
361
00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:03,031
And I had been up all night filming,
and I was tired.
362
00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:07,535
I went over to the peninsula hotel,
and at reception, I asked,
363
00:22:07,619 --> 00:22:10,705
"is Mr. Weinstein in the Belvedere
restaurant or is he on the patio?"
364
00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:13,958
And they said, "go to his room."
365
00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:20,006
And / went upstairs,
and Harvey was in his bathrobe.
366
00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:23,635
And he asked
if he could give me a massage.
367
00:22:24,427 --> 00:22:26,429
”No, ” / said
368
00:22:27,555 --> 00:22:31,601
and then, um, he asked me to help him
pick out his clothes for the day.
369
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,939
He, you know, started asking
for all these things,
370
00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:39,025
increasingly more sexual,
getting closer and closer.
371
00:22:39,108 --> 00:22:42,153
And I just said no
so many difi'erent times,
372
00:22:42,237 --> 00:22:44,072
and in so many difi'erent ways.
373
00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:49,410
And then he finally, um,
asked me to watch him take a shower.
374
00:22:50,286 --> 00:22:52,455
And / said ”harve y,
375
00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:55,959
when / win an a cadem y a ward
in a miramax mo vie,
376
00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:58,962
I will give you a blow job. ”
377
00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:00,922
And / got out of there fast
378
00:23:01,589 --> 00:23:02,924
what did you do?
379
00:23:03,007 --> 00:23:05,635
I told my dad, I told my agent,
380
00:23:05,718 --> 00:23:08,304
I told the people
with whom I was filming that night,
381
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:09,973
and Harvey punished me.
382
00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,308
I mean, he blackballed my career
383
00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:14,561
because lhad the wherewithal
to refuse him.
384
00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,229
How do you know that?
385
00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:19,524
I would be standing with other actresses,
and he would blank me.
386
00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:23,027
There were roles for which / was up
that I mysteriously did not get,
387
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,530
and I know today
that it was Harvey making a phone call.
388
00:23:25,613 --> 00:23:29,784
You know, I did an article about it,
and nobody did anything.
389
00:23:29,867 --> 00:23:32,912
You didn't identify him,
but did industry people know
390
00:23:32,996 --> 00:23:34,747
who you were talking about
in your article?
391
00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:36,249
Absolutely.
392
00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:38,960
And the abuse came raining down
on me, not on him.
393
00:23:39,544 --> 00:23:42,297
You know at the women's march
when I did the "nasty woman" poem?
394
00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:44,591
I lost a huge advertising gig
395
00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:48,511
because a small group of people complained
that I was quoting the president.
396
00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,972
He used that language
and got elected.
397
00:23:51,055 --> 00:23:53,933
I quoted him, and I got fired.
398
00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:57,020
It is decades later,
and it's still the same sexism.
399
00:23:57,103 --> 00:24:00,607
And, Jodi, I would make the same choices
all over again,
400
00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:02,317
but I also would like to work.
401
00:24:06,362 --> 00:24:08,823
[Jodi] Lisa bloom, the lawyer,
she wrote to me.
402
00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:10,533
- Gloria allred's daughter?
- Yeah.
403
00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:13,911
- Do you know her?
- No, but I assume she wants to help.
404
00:24:13,995 --> 00:24:15,538
I fonnarded the email to Emily.
405
00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,582
[Chafienng]
406
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,756
Jodi? Lisa bloom.
407
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:26,924
"Big announcement,
408
00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:31,596
my book suspicion nation is being produced
by Harvey weinstein and Jay-Z."
409
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:33,306
Weinstein is producing her book?
410
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:39,312
Lisa bloom, daughter of feminist icon,
is working with Harvey weinstein.
411
00:24:39,395 --> 00:24:41,064
But why would she do that?
412
00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:43,232
How much do you get paid for a miniseries?
413
00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:45,985
He's got to be behind
Lisa reaching out to you.
414
00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:48,321
So weinstein knows
what we're doing.
415
00:24:56,579 --> 00:24:57,580
Sorry.
416
00:25:01,376 --> 00:25:03,461
[Matt] Do you wanna keep going
with trump?
417
00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:07,131
[Rebecca] Or you could join Jodi
and look into Harvey weinstein?
418
00:25:07,215 --> 00:25:09,008
[Chuckles]
419
00:25:10,551 --> 00:25:12,970
I worry about whether
it makes a difference.
420
00:25:14,097 --> 00:25:17,517
These women spoke out against trump,
and he still became president.
421
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,144
But in the wake of O'Reilly,
there's possibility.
422
00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:21,396
[Cell phone buzzing]
423
00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:22,480
Sorry.
424
00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:25,525
Craig. I've been trying to reach you.
425
00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:27,985
You've gotta show up.
426
00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:30,530
How's your daughter?
427
00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:32,115
[Chuckles] She's great.
428
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:35,785
Oh, s... um...
429
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:38,579
Sorry. I, um...
430
00:25:38,663 --> 00:25:40,915
Thank you for the gift you...
431
00:25:43,292 --> 00:25:44,794
Is anything bothering you?
432
00:25:45,503 --> 00:25:47,714
Besides no sleep
and diapers everywhere.
433
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:50,967
Are you okay?
434
00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:55,430
I've found it quite...
435
00:25:56,848 --> 00:25:57,849
Difficult.
436
00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:00,309
I'm sorry.
437
00:26:01,644 --> 00:26:02,770
Will working help?
438
00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:04,647
Yeah. Yeah.
439
00:26:05,523 --> 00:26:07,775
Absolutely. It's better now.
440
00:26:17,452 --> 00:26:19,120
- [Journalist] Megan.
- Hey.
441
00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:35,636
[Megan] Are they all famous?
442
00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:38,514
[Jodi] Most of them, yes.
443
00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:43,686
I guess my question is just, like,
is this the best use of our time?
444
00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,690
Like, as opposed to other people
we could potentially be covering.
445
00:26:48,399 --> 00:26:51,986
People who can't speak out.
Actresses already have a voice.
446
00:26:52,069 --> 00:26:55,490
But they could also fear being punished
by the film industry for using it.
447
00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:57,241
Sure...
448
00:26:58,034 --> 00:27:01,954
But what is it exactly
that we're looking at here?
449
00:27:02,038 --> 00:27:04,749
We're looking at extreme
sexual harassment in the workplace.
450
00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:08,920
These young women walked into what
they all had reason to believe
451
00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:12,173
were "business meetings"
with a producer, an employer.
452
00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:13,466
They were hopeful.
453
00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:17,178
They were expecting a serious conversation
about their work or a possible project.
454
00:27:17,261 --> 00:27:20,681
Instead, they say he met them
with threats and sexual demands.
455
00:27:21,265 --> 00:27:23,059
They claim assault and rape.
456
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:28,022
If that can happen to Hollywood actresses,
who else is it happening to?
457
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,526
Do you think his employees
were targeted too?
458
00:27:32,109 --> 00:27:33,110
I do.
459
00:27:36,489 --> 00:27:40,743
I could search for any police complaints
against miramax?
460
00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:42,411
Or court records?
461
00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:45,581
Should I?
462
00:27:46,749 --> 00:27:47,834
Yes.
463
00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:52,463
[Megan] / found records of a complaint
against miramax from 2007,
464
00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:55,883
but the report was closed out
the same day it was made.
465
00:27:55,967 --> 00:27:58,636
It says, ”complainant elected
court action, ”
466
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:02,056
but then no court documents exist,
which seems inconsistent.
467
00:28:02,139 --> 00:28:04,433
Do you have any more
information on that?
468
00:28:05,059 --> 00:28:07,687
[Government official] No. Those records
would have been destroyed
469
00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:10,064
really? Why?
470
00:28:10,147 --> 00:28:11,732
It's agency policy.
471
00:28:11,816 --> 00:28:13,985
All records are destroyed
after three years.
472
00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:16,112
Why is that?
473
00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:19,657
As I said it's policy.
474
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:25,246
So could you please tell me
who filed the sexual harassment complaint?
475
00:28:25,329 --> 00:28:26,956
No, / cannot
476
00:28:28,082 --> 00:28:30,835
- because?
- It's policy.
477
00:28:30,918 --> 00:28:33,254
We are prohibited from
giving you that name.
478
00:28:34,088 --> 00:28:35,506
Is that everything?
479
00:28:36,591 --> 00:28:38,467
This is very important.
480
00:28:38,551 --> 00:28:41,929
It's about someone who's still
very powerful in the workplace.
481
00:28:42,013 --> 00:28:44,432
Who could still be harassing someone.
482
00:28:44,515 --> 00:28:46,726
Is there any way you can help me?
483
00:28:50,521 --> 00:28:52,982
You could ask me the name
of the government in vest/gator
484
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:54,817
who was assigned the case.
485
00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:56,861
I could give you that information.
486
00:28:57,695 --> 00:28:59,530
- Just a name.
- Thank you.
487
00:29:01,449 --> 00:29:04,493
I've made 20 calls
to track this investigator.
488
00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:07,997
What did Lisa bloom say?
489
00:29:08,998 --> 00:29:12,960
She just talked as though
he was kind of naughty.
490
00:29:13,044 --> 00:29:15,212
She was talking to me
kind of Jew-to-Jew
491
00:29:15,296 --> 00:29:17,590
and including weinstein
in the gang.
492
00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:18,883
Oh!
493
00:29:19,717 --> 00:29:24,055
I had a long conversation
with Lena Dunham and jenni Konner.
494
00:29:24,138 --> 00:29:26,515
They wanna help,
and they have so many numbers.
495
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:27,725
Amazing.
496
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:29,936
Did you know them before?
497
00:29:30,019 --> 00:29:32,271
[Chuckles] I don't know anyone.
498
00:29:32,355 --> 00:29:34,440
- In April, when I started...
- [Cell phone ringing]
499
00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:35,858
I was literally leaving...
500
00:29:35,942 --> 00:29:37,276
It's the investigator.
501
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,696
Hi, this is Megan twohey.
Thank you for getting back to me.
502
00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:42,907
[Investigator] Sure. How can I help?
503
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:44,700
Do you remember the case?
504
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:47,954
There are hundreds of
sexual harassment cases at that agency.
505
00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:52,750
This one was brought to you,
and then it was closed very quickly.
506
00:29:52,833 --> 00:29:54,460
That's not unusual.
507
00:29:55,419 --> 00:29:57,755
It was filed against miramax?
508
00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:00,132
What's miramax?
509
00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:02,468
[Sighs]
510
00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:06,764
[Lisa] Harvey,
I've read the thorough reports,
511
00:30:06,847 --> 00:30:11,102
and Rose comes across as
a disturbed pathological liar.
512
00:30:11,185 --> 00:30:15,231
Clearly she must be stopped in
her ridiculous, defamatory attacks on you.
513
00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:18,943
She is dangerous.
You are right to be concerned
514
00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:23,030
I feel equioped to help you
against the roses of the world,
515
00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:26,450
because lha ve represented
so many of them.
516
00:30:26,534 --> 00:30:29,120
I'd like to meet with you to go over this
in some detail.
517
00:30:29,203 --> 00:30:32,748
You should be the hero of this story,
not the villain.
518
00:30:32,832 --> 00:30:34,166
Best Lisa bloom.
519
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:40,423
I'm trying to get a hold of this assistant
who worked at miramax in her early 20s.
520
00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:43,968
One day, she just disappeared.
521
00:30:44,051 --> 00:30:46,846
All she left were her running shoes
under the table.
522
00:30:46,929 --> 00:30:50,224
I haven't been able to find her yet,
but her mother lives in queens.
523
00:30:50,307 --> 00:30:51,809
I thought I'd just show up.
524
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:23,758
[Doorbell rings]
525
00:31:30,973 --> 00:31:32,808
-Hello.
526
00:31:33,601 --> 00:31:37,396
Hi. I was expecting your mother.
527
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,040
Oh, I'll go get her.
Who should I say...
528
00:31:39,065 --> 00:31:40,691
No, it's... it's actually...
529
00:31:40,775 --> 00:31:42,443
You're the one I wanted to see.
530
00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:44,945
Excuse me?
531
00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:47,490
My name is Megan twohey.
532
00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,367
I am an investigative reporter
for the New York times.
533
00:31:51,786 --> 00:31:53,245
Would it be okay if...
534
00:31:53,329 --> 00:31:55,498
Go back upstairs. Go see abuelita.
535
00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:06,383
Could we talk for a minute...
536
00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:09,762
About your time at miramax?
537
00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:11,806
[Scoffs]
538
00:32:12,598 --> 00:32:14,558
I can't believe you found me.
539
00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:18,521
I've been waiting for this for 25 years.
540
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:26,362
I would love the chance
to ask you a couple questions.
541
00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:30,241
What do you know?
542
00:32:31,659 --> 00:32:36,455
That you were at the beginning
of your career and doing well.
543
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,376
And that something happened.
544
00:32:43,087 --> 00:32:44,839
And then you disappeared.
545
00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:50,219
And that your father
threatened legal action.
546
00:32:59,436 --> 00:33:00,479
[Exhales]
547
00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,484
All I can tell you is that...
548
00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:11,866
I had a business dispute
with miramax.
549
00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:14,910
It was resolved.
550
00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:17,121
Amicably.
551
00:33:18,414 --> 00:33:20,583
And we've agreed
not to discuss it.
552
00:33:26,046 --> 00:33:27,423
So glad to meet you anyway.
553
00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:37,266
It was "resolved"?
554
00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:41,061
Yeah. It was.
555
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,114
There are women
who have had settlements,
556
00:33:53,157 --> 00:33:54,658
and they're bound to silence,
557
00:33:55,618 --> 00:33:58,120
but we have written around them.
558
00:33:59,330 --> 00:34:01,874
There are ways to report around
that restriction.
559
00:34:01,957 --> 00:34:04,084
The source can remain anonymous.
560
00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:08,380
[Sniffles]
561
00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:11,133
I should go back in.
562
00:34:15,512 --> 00:34:16,639
Look, I'm...
563
00:34:17,473 --> 00:34:20,059
Sorry. I've thrown a curveball into
your trip to see your mother,
564
00:34:20,142 --> 00:34:21,894
and I don't wanna keep you
from your family,
565
00:34:21,977 --> 00:34:25,105
but would it be okay
if I gave you my number?
566
00:34:27,775 --> 00:34:32,321
She was terrified, Jodi,
but she wants to talk. She really does.
567
00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:34,406
[Jodi] Really? That's incredible.
568
00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:37,243
Listen, Gwyneth Paltrow called
569
00:34:37,326 --> 00:34:40,496
and she told me about an incident
at the peninsula hotel.
570
00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:42,289
The peninsula? What the fuck?
571
00:34:42,373 --> 00:34:44,500
Exactly. Where Ashley went to meet him.
572
00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:46,669
- Shit. What happened?
- [Phone beeps]
573
00:34:47,711 --> 00:34:49,088
Fuck. It's her. I have to go.
574
00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:53,217
[Former assistant] Megan, we just spoke.
575
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,052
I'm soriy, but it's a no.
576
00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:56,887
But good luck. Honestly.
577
00:34:56,971 --> 00:34:58,222
[Line clicks]
578
00:35:24,957 --> 00:35:28,085
[Talia] So if you sign it,
you don't tell anyone about anything?
579
00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:30,254
Yeah. It could've been bullying,
580
00:35:30,337 --> 00:35:32,798
or sometimes it's just a big shop,
581
00:35:32,881 --> 00:35:35,634
and they don't want you
to tell their trade secrets.
582
00:35:35,718 --> 00:35:37,052
Did you sign one?
583
00:35:37,136 --> 00:35:38,971
[Chuckles] No.
584
00:35:39,513 --> 00:35:42,808
So, shops have secrets,
but newspapers don't?
585
00:35:47,604 --> 00:35:50,149
I think pretty much everyone
and everything has a secret.
586
00:35:50,232 --> 00:35:51,232
What's yours?
587
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,155
I will tell you one day.
Do you have one?
588
00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:58,032
Of course.
589
00:36:01,577 --> 00:36:02,911
'Course I have a secret.
590
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,545
[Car door opens, closes]
591
00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:15,841
[Chafienng]
592
00:36:37,821 --> 00:36:39,323
[Doorbell rings]
593
00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:49,792
- Hello?
- [Megan] John schmidt?
594
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:52,586
My name is Megan twohey.
I'm a reporter from the New York times.
595
00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,630
Would it be possible to speak
for a moment?
596
00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:55,964
Come in.
597
00:37:01,428 --> 00:37:03,013
I can't see what
you want from me.
598
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,892
[Megan] You were
the chief financial officer at miramax.
599
00:37:06,975 --> 00:37:10,270
The women who received these settlements,
they can't speak out.
600
00:37:10,354 --> 00:37:12,147
They'll be sued if they do.
601
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:16,819
But if someone could speak freely
about the payouts,
602
00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:19,696
that would be hugely helpful.
603
00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:24,451
What payouts, John?
604
00:37:32,459 --> 00:37:34,086
I'm not asking you to go on the record.
605
00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:39,091
Just to have your perspective
on what might've happened back then.
606
00:37:45,973 --> 00:37:47,558
I need to think about it.
607
00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:50,936
Okay?
608
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:52,771
Okay.
609
00:37:54,148 --> 00:37:55,691
Sorry just to show up.
610
00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:01,572
- Good night.
- [Door opens]
611
00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:02,739
[John] Good night.
612
00:38:02,823 --> 00:38:04,116
[Door closes]
613
00:38:11,457 --> 00:38:14,251
[Breathing heavily]
614
00:38:20,883 --> 00:38:23,177
[Megan] Hi, hi. Can you hear me?
615
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:24,386
[Eeoc caller] Yes.
616
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:27,389
[Megan] Uh, / really appreciate you
talking to me on a Saturday.
617
00:38:27,473 --> 00:38:29,516
[Eeoc caller]
Lhope the links were useful
618
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,144
they were,
but I find it very strange
619
00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:35,606
that if I wanna access
certain information, I can't.
620
00:38:35,689 --> 00:38:39,401
The eeoc is all about information.
What could you not find?
621
00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:43,071
Well, for instance, which companies have
had the most sexual harassment complaints,
622
00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:45,365
but no one was permitted to tell me that.
623
00:38:45,449 --> 00:38:47,868
Yes, that would be
confidential information.
624
00:38:48,452 --> 00:38:49,828
But do you think that's right?
625
00:38:49,912 --> 00:38:52,581
Shouldn't the equal employment
opportunities commission
626
00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,583
be a resource for information?
627
00:38:56,001 --> 00:38:58,003
Our policies are re viewed annually
628
00:38:58,086 --> 00:39:01,840
so do you know internally
which companies have the most complaints?
629
00:39:01,924 --> 00:39:05,802
Yes. We do, but we 're not allowed
to disclose that information.
630
00:39:07,054 --> 00:39:09,389
So any woman applying for a job
631
00:39:09,473 --> 00:39:15,062
is not allowed to check the record
of that employer in terms of harassment?
632
00:39:15,145 --> 00:39:18,941
That's right you should probably
talk to someone higher up.
633
00:39:19,024 --> 00:39:21,026
[Chuckles] I'm... I'm going to.
634
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:24,279
I will, but don't you think
that's strange?
635
00:39:24,363 --> 00:39:26,657
That the commission is there
to protect people,
636
00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:31,328
but its policy prohibits sharing
the information needed to protect them?
637
00:39:32,371 --> 00:39:36,625
Megan, I'm not the head of the eeoc.
I was just trying to help.
638
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:41,129
And you have. And it's the weekend.
I really thank you.
639
00:39:42,548 --> 00:39:44,216
- Goodbye.
- Oh, my gosh.
640
00:39:45,801 --> 00:39:46,843
Amazing.
641
00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:48,845
Incredible.
642
00:39:49,596 --> 00:39:52,724
Mira or the equal employment
opportunities commission?
643
00:39:53,684 --> 00:39:54,685
Both.
644
00:39:58,313 --> 00:40:00,107
[Both laugh]
645
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:02,901
- We're like reporting twins.
- Yeah.
646
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:04,236
Should I go up and change?
647
00:40:04,319 --> 00:40:05,529
No, let's go.
648
00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:09,741
- You look nice.
- You look amazing. [Laughs]
649
00:40:16,832 --> 00:40:17,892
- [Assistant] Hi.
- [Jodi] Hi.
650
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,335
- How was your ride?
- Yeah. It was great.
651
00:40:20,419 --> 00:40:21,420
[Megan] It was good.
652
00:40:21,503 --> 00:40:23,088
I'm Helen.
I'm Gwyneth's assistant.
653
00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:24,590
Gwyneth will be right with you.
654
00:40:24,673 --> 00:40:25,716
[Megan] Thank you.
655
00:40:30,262 --> 00:40:32,931
So it's a total pattern.
A pattern of behavior.
656
00:40:33,015 --> 00:40:35,767
Gwyneth was invited to the hotel room,
the business meeting,
657
00:40:35,851 --> 00:40:38,687
and then threatened with losing herjob
if she refused him.
658
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:41,481
She told her agent. No one does a thing.
659
00:40:41,565 --> 00:40:43,165
[Rebecca] Will Gwyneth go on the record?
660
00:40:43,817 --> 00:40:44,818
She really wants to.
661
00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:46,528
I think she does and she doesn't.
662
00:40:46,612 --> 00:40:51,241
She is scared that it could turn into
some kind of tabloidy sex scandal.
663
00:40:51,325 --> 00:40:55,704
I mean, Gwyneth was 23. So was Rose.
They were so young.
664
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,706
[Rebecca]
Tell me everything when you get in.
665
00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,041
Okay. Bye.
666
00:41:01,335 --> 00:41:02,502
[Sighs]
667
00:41:03,587 --> 00:41:06,632
The only way these women
are gonna go on the record...
668
00:41:06,715 --> 00:41:07,875
Is if they all jump together.
669
00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:10,218
Yeah.
670
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,687
[Doorbell rings]
671
00:41:20,771 --> 00:41:22,522
You take the lead on this.
672
00:41:22,606 --> 00:41:25,108
No, you do it.
You're less intimidating.
673
00:41:25,192 --> 00:41:27,110
You don't find me intimidating?
674
00:41:28,695 --> 00:41:31,365
- I mean... no, it's just the height thing.
- [Door opens]
675
00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:33,575
- Hi.
- [Jodi] Hi.
676
00:41:33,659 --> 00:41:35,702
We were just
in the neighborhood.
677
00:41:35,786 --> 00:41:37,204
We're from the New York times.
678
00:41:37,287 --> 00:41:39,706
I believe you used to work
for Harvey weinstein?
679
00:41:43,502 --> 00:41:44,795
[Door closes]
680
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:48,465
- Think she'll go on the record?
- [Laughs]
681
00:41:49,424 --> 00:41:50,926
Okay. I'm just gonna...
682
00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:52,928
[Megan] You wanna leave the note? Yeah.
683
00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:05,190
The ndas are never examined or questioned.
684
00:42:05,273 --> 00:42:08,443
They rarely come up in open court.
Law schools don't teach them.
685
00:42:08,527 --> 00:42:10,779
Also, the attorneys
who represent the victims
686
00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:13,115
can get up to 40% of the settlement.
687
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:15,283
That's a big incentive
to keep that system going.
688
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,120
Most sexual harassment cases
are settled out of court.
689
00:42:18,203 --> 00:42:20,622
And most of them
have a confidentiality clause.
690
00:42:20,706 --> 00:42:24,000
And the women who sign these contracts
have to give over all of their evidence.
691
00:42:24,084 --> 00:42:26,253
Their diaries, emails, phones.
692
00:42:26,336 --> 00:42:29,798
It's cash for silence, and it enables
the perpetrators to continue.
693
00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:32,259
[Megan]
And these clauses are standard practice.
694
00:42:32,342 --> 00:42:35,220
The women wanna close the case.
They need the money.
695
00:42:35,303 --> 00:42:37,973
They don't wanna be branded
as liars or flirts.
696
00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,976
I mean, I'm sure it often seems like
the only recourse.
697
00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:44,896
And I imagine some women see these
settlements as a confession of guilt.
698
00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:48,775
They think they've scored a victory
when it's actually a gag order.
699
00:42:48,859 --> 00:42:50,986
And if you try and take
a case like this to court,
700
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:53,113
the sexual harassment laws
are so weak.
701
00:42:53,196 --> 00:42:55,323
They're actually nonexistent
if you're a freelancer
702
00:42:55,407 --> 00:42:57,635
or if there are fewer than
15 employees in the workplace.
703
00:42:57,659 --> 00:42:59,453
Also,
most lawyers prefer settlements
704
00:42:59,536 --> 00:43:01,336
'cause it's less of a financial risk
for them.
705
00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:04,708
How close are any of these actresses
to going on the record?
706
00:43:04,791 --> 00:43:06,918
We're introducing the idea.
707
00:43:07,002 --> 00:43:09,880
I'm afraid we have
these horrific hotel room accounts
708
00:43:09,963 --> 00:43:12,048
and no corroborating evidence.
709
00:43:12,132 --> 00:43:16,344
We feel they'll speak out
if they're not the only ones.
710
00:43:16,428 --> 00:43:17,679
Safety in numbers.
711
00:43:17,763 --> 00:43:18,764
And settlements?
712
00:43:19,431 --> 00:43:21,725
Three. So far.
713
00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:23,769
There is Rose mcgowan.
714
00:43:23,852 --> 00:43:26,313
We're pretty sure about
ambra battilana.
715
00:43:26,396 --> 00:43:28,899
And I would say the same
for the ex-assistant in queens.
716
00:43:28,982 --> 00:43:30,317
And no documents?
717
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,861
We do not have
a publishable story.
718
00:43:37,532 --> 00:43:38,575
Hey.
719
00:43:38,658 --> 00:43:40,243
[Dean] So, look, team.
720
00:43:40,827 --> 00:43:44,331
You have to imagine that every call
you make is being recorded.
721
00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:45,874
And you're being followed.
722
00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:49,252
Don't let weinstein talk to you,
unless it's on the record.
723
00:43:50,253 --> 00:43:53,423
I'd be interested in talking to him
even off the record.
724
00:43:53,507 --> 00:43:58,011
No, if Harvey has something to say,
he needs to say it publicly.
725
00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:00,013
I've dealt with him before.
726
00:44:00,096 --> 00:44:01,348
It's ugly.
727
00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:06,686
[Megan] We're looking into the incident
with ambra battilana Gutierrez.
728
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:09,564
She accused weinstein of groping her.
729
00:44:09,648 --> 00:44:12,692
The NYPD gave her a wire,
and she met him again.
730
00:44:12,776 --> 00:44:14,402
[Jodi] But the da wouldn't prosecute.
731
00:44:15,237 --> 00:44:17,739
They claimed the recording
wasn't enough to arrest him.
732
00:44:17,823 --> 00:44:21,576
[Megan] Linda fairstein worked
in the da's office. I've texted her.
733
00:44:23,495 --> 00:44:25,205
- [Ambra]
- [Harvey]
734
00:45:58,465 --> 00:46:00,467
Linda, Megan twohey here.
How are you?
735
00:46:01,009 --> 00:46:03,136
[Linda] I'm good Megan.
How can I help?
736
00:46:03,219 --> 00:46:06,640
Yeah, I'm looking into a police complaint
against Harvey weinstein
737
00:46:06,723 --> 00:46:08,308
that wasn't charged. Two years ago.
738
00:46:08,391 --> 00:46:10,393
When you were at the da's ofiice.
739
00:46:10,477 --> 00:46:12,771
Ambra battilana Gutierrez.
740
00:46:12,854 --> 00:46:14,814
Oh. Okay.
741
00:46:15,523 --> 00:46:17,359
It seemed to go away very quickly.
742
00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:20,153
There was no criminal conduct there.
743
00:46:20,236 --> 00:46:23,281
The cops seemed pretty confident
there was.
744
00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:26,993
Do you think there was anything irregular
about how it was handled?
745
00:46:27,577 --> 00:46:30,205
- I don't. Why would you say that?
- [Sirens wailing]
746
00:46:30,288 --> 00:46:32,248
[Cell phone ringing]
747
00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:34,000
Gwyneth.
748
00:46:34,084 --> 00:46:37,963
He is here. Lin vited a few people over,
and he turned up.
749
00:46:38,672 --> 00:46:42,008
Iha ven't seen him for years.
He must know I spoke to you.
750
00:46:42,092 --> 00:46:45,011
Why are you so certain
there was no criminal conduct?
751
00:46:45,095 --> 00:46:46,304
Wasn't there a recording?
752
00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:49,933
I don't think
there's a road to go down.
753
00:46:51,977 --> 00:46:54,396
Do you feel like
you're in physical danger at all?
754
00:46:54,479 --> 00:46:56,773
[Gwyneth] I'll keep people around me
till he goes.
755
00:46:56,856 --> 00:46:59,109
It's a shock.
I know he is watching me.
756
00:46:59,192 --> 00:47:00,235
He is letting me know.
757
00:47:01,695 --> 00:47:03,196
He can't do anything.
758
00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:06,908
Gwyneth. I'm here. Call me if you need me.
759
00:47:07,742 --> 00:47:08,743
Okay. Bye.
760
00:47:11,204 --> 00:47:13,164
Linda, do you know Harvey?
761
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,166
I've met him socially,
762
00:47:15,250 --> 00:47:17,377
but we've never been
to each other's homes.
763
00:47:18,086 --> 00:47:21,715
- Okay. I'm sure we'll speak soon.
- Yes.
764
00:47:22,465 --> 00:47:23,466
Goodbye.
765
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:32,058
We got a good lead to talk
to a past executive at miramax.
766
00:47:32,142 --> 00:47:33,786
- Great. When will that be?
- [Patron 1] Hola.
767
00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:35,145
Jodi's talking to her tomorrow.
768
00:47:35,228 --> 00:47:38,028
[Patron 2] I don't think she heard you.
She definitely didn't hear you.
769
00:47:38,064 --> 00:47:39,941
- Oh, my god.
- What?
770
00:47:41,818 --> 00:47:46,281
Ronan farrow is working on an hw piece
for the new yorker.
771
00:47:46,364 --> 00:47:48,033
What? Since when?
772
00:47:48,116 --> 00:47:49,260
- [Jodi] She doesn't say...
- Fuck.
773
00:47:49,284 --> 00:47:51,911
But apparently
he's spoken to a lot of actresses already.
774
00:47:52,871 --> 00:47:53,955
[Waiter] Okay, ladies.
775
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:55,665
These are the menus.
776
00:47:55,749 --> 00:47:57,109
- Thank you.
- [Rebecca] Thank you.
777
00:47:57,959 --> 00:48:00,837
It's pressure we can do without,
but we just keep going.
778
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,839
And we continue to be thorough.
779
00:48:02,922 --> 00:48:04,466
Pardon me. Excuse me. Hello.
780
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:05,967
Hi. Hello, everyone.
781
00:48:06,051 --> 00:48:08,511
Did you see my friend over there?
He said hi.
782
00:48:08,595 --> 00:48:10,513
Could you leave us?
We're talking.
783
00:48:10,597 --> 00:48:12,682
I absolutely will.
I totally understand,
784
00:48:12,766 --> 00:48:14,410
but I was thinking
maybe I could have a moment...
785
00:48:14,434 --> 00:48:16,370
We're having a conversation.
So if you could just...
786
00:48:16,394 --> 00:48:18,730
- You should be doing something else.
- [Megan] Fuck you.
787
00:48:18,813 --> 00:48:22,317
- Fuck you? I would bend you over...
- Fuck you!
788
00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:25,528
Fuck you!
Get the fuck out of here!
789
00:48:25,612 --> 00:48:27,155
Fuck you, man. Get the fuck out!
790
00:48:27,238 --> 00:48:28,907
[Laughs]
791
00:48:30,658 --> 00:48:33,328
- [Patron 1] Frigid bitches.
- [Patron 2] Frigid bitches.
792
00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:35,163
[Patron 3] That guy's an asshole.
793
00:48:35,246 --> 00:48:36,998
- [Megan whispers] Sorry.
- Don't apologize.
794
00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:48,343
[Chafienng]
795
00:48:52,847 --> 00:48:57,227
[Miramax executive] There was an incident
in venice at the film festival.
796
00:48:57,310 --> 00:48:59,270
It was '98.
797
00:48:59,979 --> 00:49:01,523
What happened?
798
00:49:05,276 --> 00:49:08,780
What makes me most angry
is the silence.
799
00:49:09,405 --> 00:49:12,951
No one spoke out then,
and no one is talking about it now.
800
00:49:13,827 --> 00:49:16,830
He built the silence,
and people complied.
801
00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:19,874
He produced fear
and intimidation.
802
00:49:19,958 --> 00:49:22,460
The only alternative,
seemingly, was to quit
803
00:49:22,544 --> 00:49:25,922
and throw away everything
you worked so hard for out the door.
804
00:49:26,005 --> 00:49:28,383
You were terrified
you were gonna be the next target,
805
00:49:28,466 --> 00:49:30,051
so people looked the other way.
806
00:49:30,135 --> 00:49:31,136
Within the company?
807
00:49:31,219 --> 00:49:32,804
Yes, and outside of it.
808
00:49:33,513 --> 00:49:36,141
I mean, he played the press.
He played the agents.
809
00:49:36,224 --> 00:49:37,976
How did he play the press?
810
00:49:38,059 --> 00:49:42,438
By promising them access to stars
in exchange for hushing up some incident.
811
00:49:42,522 --> 00:49:43,690
What sort of incident?
812
00:49:45,108 --> 00:49:46,276
Where do I start?
813
00:49:47,235 --> 00:49:49,445
Harvey had this...
What did they call it?
814
00:49:50,238 --> 00:49:54,993
"A physical altercation"
with a male employee at a conference.
815
00:49:55,577 --> 00:49:57,120
Then they settled with the guy.
816
00:49:57,871 --> 00:49:59,289
And with women?
817
00:50:00,623 --> 00:50:01,624
He pursued them.
818
00:50:02,792 --> 00:50:03,960
Endlessly.
819
00:50:07,714 --> 00:50:09,632
What happened in venice?
820
00:50:11,759 --> 00:50:14,554
I don't wanna be quoted. Period.
821
00:50:15,305 --> 00:50:16,472
Understood.
822
00:50:20,602 --> 00:50:22,228
We were in Harvey's suite,
823
00:50:22,312 --> 00:50:24,689
and there were
a bunch of people in there.
824
00:50:25,273 --> 00:50:29,694
And there were these two assistants,
and they were sitting there trembling.
825
00:50:30,445 --> 00:50:32,155
And weinstein was there?
826
00:50:32,238 --> 00:50:33,281
Yes.
827
00:50:34,407 --> 00:50:36,910
He was talking film
and ignoring them,
828
00:50:37,994 --> 00:50:39,996
but they were literally vibrating.
829
00:50:40,872 --> 00:50:44,209
One with fear,
the other with anger.
830
00:50:46,544 --> 00:50:47,962
Can you tell me their names?
831
00:50:49,130 --> 00:50:50,215
Yes.
832
00:50:55,511 --> 00:50:58,431
And there's another woman
you should call.
833
00:50:59,557 --> 00:51:02,769
The two assistants are Rowena chiu
and Zelda Perkins,
834
00:51:02,852 --> 00:51:05,897
and we have a third name,
Laura Madden.
835
00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:08,691
And none of them are returning our calls.
836
00:51:08,775 --> 00:51:10,485
So? Show up in person.
837
00:51:11,069 --> 00:51:12,570
Yeah. [Chuckles]
838
00:51:13,112 --> 00:51:17,200
They live in London,
silicon valley and wales.
839
00:51:17,825 --> 00:51:19,285
Can you get on a plane?
840
00:51:26,584 --> 00:51:29,128
Let me work it out with Ron.
841
00:51:32,507 --> 00:51:34,842
But yeah, of course.
842
00:51:34,926 --> 00:51:38,429
Documents, verification.
You know what we need.
843
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,061
Sorry to bother you.
I can see you're busy.
844
00:52:27,145 --> 00:52:29,397
I was looking for Rowena chi...
845
00:52:31,816 --> 00:52:35,194
Rowena's not here right now.
Can I give her a message?
846
00:52:35,903 --> 00:52:37,280
When will she be back?
847
00:52:37,363 --> 00:52:40,450
My wife's out of the country for a while.
848
00:52:40,533 --> 00:52:41,534
[Chuckles] I see.
849
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,203
I did try calling her.
850
00:52:44,287 --> 00:52:45,663
This a work thing?
851
00:52:46,831 --> 00:52:49,208
You must be Andrew?
Andrew cheung?
852
00:52:49,292 --> 00:52:51,794
I'm Jodi kantor.
I'm from the New York times.
853
00:52:51,878 --> 00:52:53,046
Okay.
854
00:52:53,921 --> 00:52:56,549
So, what did you wanna
talk to Rowena about?
855
00:52:57,550 --> 00:53:00,803
We're researching a story
about miramax.
856
00:53:00,887 --> 00:53:02,889
I flew in from New York.
857
00:53:03,598 --> 00:53:05,850
- You came all this way?
- Yeah.
858
00:53:07,477 --> 00:53:09,896
Um, could we talk for a minute?
859
00:53:10,521 --> 00:53:11,522
Sure.
860
00:53:12,190 --> 00:53:17,153
So, I've been speaking with people
who worked for Harvey weinstein.
861
00:53:18,112 --> 00:53:20,865
You're going quite far back
with Rowena's time there.
862
00:53:21,449 --> 00:53:23,785
We're writing about
his treatment of women.
863
00:53:23,868 --> 00:53:25,078
Right.
864
00:53:25,161 --> 00:53:27,455
And Rowena fits in how?
865
00:53:29,248 --> 00:53:32,502
Your wife worked at miramax
for some years.
866
00:53:33,336 --> 00:53:36,214
Yes. Mainly in Hong Kong.
867
00:53:36,798 --> 00:53:39,634
I'd like to hear about her experiences
working for weinstein.
868
00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:42,595
I'm confused why you can't discuss it
on the phone.
869
00:53:42,678 --> 00:53:43,805
[Laughs]
870
00:53:43,888 --> 00:53:47,183
I did try.
It is always better to actually meet.
871
00:53:53,064 --> 00:53:55,149
And this is off the record.
872
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:57,485
My understanding is that...
873
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:00,196
That weinstein possibly
victimized your wife
874
00:54:00,279 --> 00:54:01,864
when Rowena first worked for him.
875
00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:08,746
Rowena's never mentioned
anything like that to me.
876
00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:12,625
What do you mean by "victimized"?
Can you be more specific?
877
00:54:14,252 --> 00:54:18,131
I was told that your wife may have
received a settlement from weinstein.
878
00:54:19,006 --> 00:54:22,218
[Scoffs] Do I look like a guy
whose wife got a settlement?
879
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:26,431
Could you have confused her
with someone else?
880
00:54:26,514 --> 00:54:29,767
I apologize for taking up your time. I'm...
881
00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,770
Would you just please give this to Rowena?
882
00:54:33,688 --> 00:54:37,024
If you're talking to these other people,
why do you need to talk to Rowena?
883
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:41,320
And if you turn up in my driveway,
what kind of victimization?
884
00:54:42,363 --> 00:54:43,448
It's complex.
885
00:54:43,531 --> 00:54:45,783
I'm asking you to expand on it.
886
00:54:46,367 --> 00:54:49,287
I really think it would be best...
887
00:54:50,788 --> 00:54:52,623
If you asked Rowena.
888
00:54:52,707 --> 00:54:54,125
Have a good day.
889
00:55:02,633 --> 00:55:04,093
[Engine starts]
890
00:55:07,305 --> 00:55:09,223
[Jodi] I just couldn't lie to him.
891
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:10,892
And then it turns out he didn't know.
892
00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:13,436
What iflondon is a repeat of this?
893
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:14,687
It won't be.
894
00:55:15,271 --> 00:55:17,356
I spoke with an employment lawyer
in the UK
895
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,818
and he told me
that it was irresponsible of me
896
00:55:20,902 --> 00:55:22,862
even to ask about
breaching ndas.
897
00:55:22,945 --> 00:55:24,405
No one does it.
They would get sued.
898
00:55:24,489 --> 00:55:26,199
Fuck that guy.
899
00:55:26,282 --> 00:55:28,534
Honestly, Jodi, fuck him. He has no idea.
900
00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:31,245
I wish I smoked or something.
901
00:55:32,246 --> 00:55:35,166
I'm staring at an actual brick wall
902
00:55:35,249 --> 00:55:37,293
and all I can think is, "fuck."
903
00:55:37,376 --> 00:55:38,586
That's okay.
904
00:55:39,712 --> 00:55:40,713
Fuck.
905
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:43,549
And documents.
906
00:55:53,142 --> 00:55:54,477
So, Laura,
907
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,188
we are looking
at a full mastectomy.
908
00:55:57,271 --> 00:55:59,941
And we should schedule this
as soon as possible.
909
00:56:01,192 --> 00:56:02,693
I understand.
910
00:56:07,698 --> 00:56:09,367
[Line ringing]
911
00:56:12,411 --> 00:56:13,663
[Laura] Hello.
912
00:56:15,081 --> 00:56:17,917
Laura, this is Jodi kantor
from the New York 77mes.
913
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,545
Um, I hope you've been
getting my messages.
914
00:56:20,628 --> 00:56:23,923
I'm in California right now,
but I'm coming to London tomorrow.
915
00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:25,841
Hi, Jodi.
916
00:56:29,178 --> 00:56:31,931
I'm so happy to be
finally speaking with you.
917
00:56:32,014 --> 00:56:35,184
I understand that you once worked
for Harvey weinstein
918
00:56:35,268 --> 00:56:37,144
in the London office of miramax.
919
00:56:37,228 --> 00:56:38,479
Is that right?
920
00:56:40,231 --> 00:56:41,357
Laura?
921
00:56:42,567 --> 00:56:44,318
[Laura crying]
922
00:56:48,322 --> 00:56:49,323
Laura...
923
00:56:49,991 --> 00:56:50,992
[Sighs]
924
00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:53,160
Can I do anything to help?
925
00:56:53,786 --> 00:56:56,539
No. I can't talk about this right now.
926
00:56:56,622 --> 00:56:57,790
[Line clicks]
927
00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:07,965
[Child] We're tied.
You have the same pieces as me.
928
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,512
Hey.
929
00:57:11,596 --> 00:57:13,723
Hey, my love. Come here.
930
00:57:17,184 --> 00:57:18,394
Hey, now.
931
00:57:19,895 --> 00:57:21,689
It's going to be all right.
932
00:57:22,398 --> 00:57:25,484
- It's going to be all right.
- I'm so sorry, mum.
933
00:57:25,568 --> 00:57:26,861
[Child sniffling]
934
00:57:56,015 --> 00:57:57,016
[Waiter] Here we are.
935
00:58:00,144 --> 00:58:01,145
Tea.
936
00:58:02,313 --> 00:58:03,356
Thank you.
937
00:58:05,024 --> 00:58:06,817
[Chafienng]
938
00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,752
You know, other people have tried
to write this story.
939
00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:26,128
He kills it every time.
940
00:58:26,212 --> 00:58:27,963
We're aware of that.
941
00:58:29,382 --> 00:58:31,509
And we're not gonna
let that happen to us.
942
00:58:35,888 --> 00:58:37,390
Are you okay, Zelda?
943
00:58:37,473 --> 00:58:38,516
Yes.
944
00:58:42,645 --> 00:58:44,563
You started working at miramax
when you were 21?
945
00:58:44,647 --> 00:58:47,525
Yes.
I was an assistant at the London office.
946
00:58:48,192 --> 00:58:49,443
And how was it?
947
00:58:49,527 --> 00:58:50,820
It was great,
948
00:58:50,903 --> 00:58:53,239
but it would shift
when Harvey came to town.
949
00:58:53,322 --> 00:58:54,865
In what way?
950
00:58:54,949 --> 00:58:58,202
Everyone became
on call to Harvey.
951
00:58:58,869 --> 00:59:00,329
And what would that entail?
952
00:59:01,455 --> 00:59:04,291
Script meetings, discussions,
953
00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:05,918
and more personal stuff.
954
00:59:06,502 --> 00:59:07,878
Like?
955
00:59:07,962 --> 00:59:12,049
For instance, I would have to go
to his hotel and wake Harvey up.
956
00:59:12,883 --> 00:59:15,970
Run a shower for him.
Get him out of bed.
957
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,680
He would usually be naked.
958
00:59:17,763 --> 00:59:19,640
And he might try
to pull me onto him.
959
00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:22,977
- What did you do?
- Fend him off.
960
00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:25,438
I found humor
or aggression worked best.
961
00:59:26,147 --> 00:59:29,400
Harvey was either excited or furious.
962
00:59:29,942 --> 00:59:31,569
You never knew which it would be.
963
00:59:32,611 --> 00:59:35,865
Did anyone on the team
give you advice about him?
964
00:59:35,948 --> 00:59:37,241
Yes. [Chuckles]
965
00:59:37,324 --> 00:59:40,536
Once, one girl told me
to always wear my puffer jacket,
966
00:59:40,619 --> 00:59:43,330
and to always sit in an armchair,
967
00:59:43,414 --> 00:59:45,458
never the sofa next to him,
968
00:59:45,541 --> 00:59:46,834
which helped.
969
00:59:47,835 --> 00:59:50,796
And that's how I knew
that it wasn't only happening to me.
970
00:59:52,006 --> 00:59:53,924
What was happening exactly?
971
00:59:54,008 --> 00:59:55,009
Bullying.
972
00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:57,094
Emotional abuse.
973
00:59:58,012 --> 00:59:59,889
I was just too young
to understand it.
974
01:00:01,348 --> 01:00:03,934
Harvey wanted people
to submit to him.
975
01:00:04,018 --> 01:00:05,019
And if they didn't?
976
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:07,396
Well, then he'd roar. And he'd spit.
977
01:00:08,147 --> 01:00:09,982
He could destroy someone in seconds.
978
01:00:11,567 --> 01:00:12,902
Were you scared of him?
979
01:00:13,986 --> 01:00:16,238
Yes. We all were.
980
01:00:19,408 --> 01:00:21,577
So, three years into this,
981
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:23,746
you were at
the venice film festival.
982
01:00:26,874 --> 01:00:28,501
I resigned after that.
983
01:00:29,585 --> 01:00:30,628
What happened?
984
01:00:30,711 --> 01:00:32,588
I can't tell you all of it.
985
01:00:32,671 --> 01:00:34,173
What can you tell me?
986
01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:37,593
["Let's dance" playing]
987
01:00:37,676 --> 01:00:39,428
J” under the moonlight j”
988
01:00:39,512 --> 01:00:42,223
j” this serious moonlight j”
989
01:00:44,141 --> 01:00:45,684
[Zelda] There was a new assistant
990
01:00:45,768 --> 01:00:46,894
she was my age.
991
01:00:47,728 --> 01:00:49,688
She was great she was very smart
992
01:00:49,772 --> 01:00:51,023
[both laughing]
993
01:00:51,106 --> 01:00:55,152
And she was doing Harvey's evening
script meeting alone for the first time,
994
01:00:55,236 --> 01:00:57,738
and I told her to call me
if he got difi'icult
995
01:00:59,365 --> 01:01:01,075
was he pursuing her?
996
01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:02,660
No. [Chuckles]
997
01:01:02,743 --> 01:01:05,788
Harvey said, "I don't like
Jewish or Asian women."
998
01:01:06,914 --> 01:01:08,415
- But that night...
- She called you.
999
01:01:09,416 --> 01:01:10,417
[Knocks on door]
1000
01:01:10,501 --> 01:01:12,795
The following morning she came to me,
1001
01:01:13,963 --> 01:01:15,130
and she was sobbing.
1002
01:01:15,214 --> 01:01:16,841
I mean, she was hysterical.
1003
01:01:16,924 --> 01:01:18,425
Rowena, what happened?
1004
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:20,511
- Sit.
- [Sobbing]
1005
01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:22,763
- [Zelda] And / held her.
- What is it?
1006
01:01:23,722 --> 01:01:26,433
Did she tell you what he did?
1007
01:01:28,018 --> 01:01:29,103
Not exactly.
1008
01:01:29,854 --> 01:01:31,522
Only that no one must know.
1009
01:01:31,605 --> 01:01:32,690
But I knew.
1010
01:01:33,232 --> 01:01:34,817
I knew that he must've...
1011
01:01:36,986 --> 01:01:38,279
What?
1012
01:01:38,362 --> 01:01:40,030
She was so upset.
1013
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:44,034
I knew that it had to be
the worst possible thing.
1014
01:01:45,828 --> 01:01:48,289
I calmed her down,
and I went straight to confront Harvey.
1015
01:01:48,873 --> 01:01:51,375
He was in a meeting with scorsese,
1016
01:01:52,126 --> 01:01:54,753
who hated him,
so it was a really big deal for Harvey.
1017
01:01:55,296 --> 01:01:57,339
And I went straight up to him,
1018
01:01:57,423 --> 01:02:01,051
and I said very clearly,
"you need to come with me right now."
1019
01:02:01,135 --> 01:02:03,053
You went right up to them
and confronted him?
1020
01:02:03,137 --> 01:02:05,264
Yeah. I was so angry.
1021
01:02:05,931 --> 01:02:07,641
And in front of everyone,
1022
01:02:07,725 --> 01:02:09,977
he stood up, and...
1023
01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:12,646
He followed me like a lamb.
1024
01:02:14,481 --> 01:02:16,901
And then I knew, then I knew he did it.
1025
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,195
- And then?
- He denied it.
1026
01:02:20,279 --> 01:02:22,197
He said,
"I swear on my wife and kids' lives
1027
01:02:22,281 --> 01:02:24,408
that I did not assault that young woman."
1028
01:02:24,992 --> 01:02:27,286
And then I knew that he was lying.
1029
01:02:27,369 --> 01:02:30,414
He always used that line
as a get-out-of—jail-free card. Always.
1030
01:02:31,582 --> 01:02:35,419
Did the assistant
report it to the police?
1031
01:02:35,502 --> 01:02:37,588
No. She told no one.
1032
01:02:39,924 --> 01:02:43,302
We came back to London.
We both resigned.
1033
01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:44,887
I told my direct superior,
1034
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:48,182
who suggested we get ourselves
a good lawyer.
1035
01:02:49,099 --> 01:02:50,893
I had no idea where to get one.
1036
01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:53,228
I found a company
close to the office.
1037
01:02:53,312 --> 01:02:55,356
And then I thought
it would be simple.
1038
01:02:55,439 --> 01:02:56,815
Criminal proceedings.
1039
01:02:56,899 --> 01:02:58,817
But our lawyer said
we had no chance
1040
01:02:58,901 --> 01:03:01,021
and the only thing to do
was to agree to a settlement.
1041
01:03:01,070 --> 01:03:02,404
And I said categorically no,
1042
01:03:02,488 --> 01:03:05,616
that no money should change hands
and that we just wanted to stop him.
1043
01:03:05,699 --> 01:03:07,660
And no UK police were involved?
1044
01:03:07,743 --> 01:03:09,244
We had no case.
1045
01:03:09,328 --> 01:03:12,247
We had no evidence
and no police report from venice.
1046
01:03:12,331 --> 01:03:15,918
And, you see, with rape, it is impossibly
difficult to get a prosecution.
1047
01:03:16,001 --> 01:03:19,338
And the lawyers kept saying
damage limitation was the only way to go.
1048
01:03:19,421 --> 01:03:23,467
So I said, "all right, then.
We have our own very real demands."
1049
01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:26,303
Conditions that Harvey would have to meet
if we were to sign.
1050
01:03:26,387 --> 01:03:28,013
And what were those conditions?
1051
01:03:28,097 --> 01:03:31,392
We demanded that if Harvey had
another settlement within two years,
1052
01:03:31,475 --> 01:03:34,228
that it had to be reported to Disney
or else he would be fired.
1053
01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:36,855
Another was that
he would go to therapy,
1054
01:03:36,939 --> 01:03:40,109
with me present initially,
so that he couldn't lie to the therapist.
1055
01:03:40,192 --> 01:03:44,989
We demanded that hr would put in a system
to protect the women and staff.
1056
01:03:45,072 --> 01:03:48,409
And it felt like
if we could achieve all of those,
1057
01:03:48,492 --> 01:03:50,494
then that's what our silence
was paying for.
1058
01:03:50,577 --> 01:03:53,163
That we were paying for him to stop.
1059
01:03:54,707 --> 01:03:55,958
So we signed.
1060
01:03:56,667 --> 01:03:59,003
And they had their own
insane conditions for us.
1061
01:03:59,712 --> 01:04:00,963
What were they?
1062
01:04:02,464 --> 01:04:05,718
I tried to commit them to memory.
They wouldn't give us our own copy.
1063
01:04:05,801 --> 01:04:06,927
What?
1064
01:04:07,011 --> 01:04:09,471
I was only given visitation rights
to my own settlement.
1065
01:04:09,555 --> 01:04:10,639
That's in...
1066
01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:13,350
That's incredible.
1067
01:04:13,976 --> 01:04:15,686
But you memorized them?
1068
01:04:16,937 --> 01:04:18,772
I asked for letters, too,
1069
01:04:18,856 --> 01:04:21,859
which stated some of the conditions.
1070
01:04:22,568 --> 01:04:23,694
One said,
1071
01:04:23,777 --> 01:04:29,992
"we will make best endeavors to not help
the police in a criminal or civil case."
1072
01:04:30,868 --> 01:04:34,621
We weren't allowed to talk
to our family or a doctor.
1073
01:04:36,707 --> 01:04:38,292
So finally we signed.
1074
01:04:39,376 --> 01:04:40,878
They gave us some money.
1075
01:04:42,129 --> 01:04:44,339
And I felt completely broken.
1076
01:04:52,681 --> 01:04:54,600
I interviewed for other jobs afterwards,
1077
01:04:54,683 --> 01:04:57,186
but everyone kept saying,
”wh y did you Lea ve Harvey?”
1078
01:05:03,525 --> 01:05:05,069
They all assumed that /'d...
1079
01:05:06,153 --> 01:05:07,988
Been with him, you know?
1080
01:05:08,072 --> 01:05:09,490
It was horrible.
1081
01:05:11,909 --> 01:05:13,243
What did you do then?
1082
01:05:13,869 --> 01:05:15,662
I went to visit a friend in Guatemala,
1083
01:05:16,288 --> 01:05:17,664
and I stayed for five years.
1084
01:05:19,041 --> 01:05:21,418
I had no chance
of ever working in film again
1085
01:05:21,502 --> 01:05:23,128
and I couldn't speak freely,
1086
01:05:24,296 --> 01:05:25,422
so I worked with horses.
1087
01:05:31,386 --> 01:05:32,721
You've lost a lot.
1088
01:05:32,805 --> 01:05:34,556
[Chafienng]
1089
01:05:40,521 --> 01:05:42,689
These are the original letters.
1090
01:05:44,483 --> 01:05:46,360
I had to have their permission
1091
01:05:47,069 --> 01:05:49,404
if I wanted to contact a therapist
1092
01:05:49,488 --> 01:05:50,948
or speak to an accountant.
1093
01:05:52,783 --> 01:05:58,163
I was "never to speak to any other media,
now or hereafter existing, about it."
1094
01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:00,791
Jodi,
1095
01:06:01,625 --> 01:06:03,502
this is bigger than weinstein.
1096
01:06:04,086 --> 01:06:07,506
This is about the system
protecting abusers.
1097
01:06:09,091 --> 01:06:10,759
I want you to take these,
1098
01:06:11,844 --> 01:06:13,846
and I want you to use them.
1099
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,893
I've got to go now.
1100
01:06:41,582 --> 01:06:42,791
Is it dark there?
1101
01:06:42,875 --> 01:06:45,252
It 's, like, four 0 'clock here.
1102
01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:47,379
- Did you drink tea?
- [Laughs]
1103
01:06:47,462 --> 01:06:49,047
A little bit.
1104
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,091
[Talia] Who are you meeting?
1105
01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:53,802
Just a few women.
1106
01:06:53,886 --> 01:06:56,889
Can you find me a shell?
And a cat hat for I/iolet?
1107
01:06:56,972 --> 01:06:58,682
I will work on that.
1108
01:06:58,765 --> 01:07:00,601
Have you been okay without me?
1109
01:07:01,101 --> 01:07:02,895
Sure. You're back tomorrow.
1110
01:07:02,978 --> 01:07:04,271
I am.
1111
01:07:04,354 --> 01:07:06,398
- Yay/ -[Laughs]
1112
01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,737
What did they do,
the women you're meeting?
1113
01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:14,323
We'll talk about it when you're older.
1114
01:07:15,115 --> 01:07:17,492
Are they criminals? Bank robbers?
1115
01:07:19,536 --> 01:07:20,662
Was it rape?
1116
01:07:24,875 --> 01:07:28,337
Talia, I don't think
I've ever heard you use that word.
1117
01:07:29,379 --> 01:07:31,924
Boys say it all the time. And girls.
1118
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:35,761
They shouldn't.
That word shouldn't be used casually.
1119
01:07:36,428 --> 01:07:37,471
I'm soriy.
1120
01:07:38,055 --> 01:07:40,182
No. You did nothing wrong.
1121
01:07:40,265 --> 01:07:41,767
Are you angry with me?
1122
01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:43,435
No, Talia, no.
1123
01:07:43,518 --> 01:07:47,356
I miss you. I miss you like someone
took a piece out of me.
1124
01:07:47,439 --> 01:07:48,732
[Laughs]
1125
01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:53,195
I lost you, Talia. Talia!
1126
01:07:53,278 --> 01:07:54,321
[Call disconnects]
1127
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:09,962
[Sniffles]
1128
01:08:10,796 --> 01:08:12,089
Oh, god.
1129
01:08:12,172 --> 01:08:13,590
They're trying to survive,
1130
01:08:13,674 --> 01:08:17,302
and he's there
'cause he's hosting the show.
1131
01:08:17,386 --> 01:08:19,489
- And he's probably going to help them.
- [Phone ringing]
1132
01:08:19,513 --> 01:08:21,473
- He's going to kill them.
- Hello?
1133
01:08:21,556 --> 01:08:23,767
- What? No.
- May I ask who's calling?
1134
01:08:23,850 --> 01:08:26,186
Probably going to help them
if they need to get in.
1135
01:08:26,270 --> 01:08:27,729
Now, who's potts?
1136
01:08:27,813 --> 01:08:29,856
- I know, but they don't look like...
- Mum.
1137
01:08:31,566 --> 01:08:33,277
It's another call from america.
1138
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,946
I told you, sweetie,
just tell any journalist, "no."
1139
01:08:36,029 --> 01:08:38,115
No, she says you worked together.
1140
01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:40,367
Pamela lubell?
1141
01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:42,077
[Chattering on TV]
1142
01:08:43,036 --> 01:08:45,080
Hywel wants to take his yellow pillow
to cornwall.
1143
01:08:45,163 --> 01:08:47,124
- No, we're not taking...
- So?
1144
01:08:47,207 --> 01:08:49,042
We're not taking any pillows.
1145
01:08:49,126 --> 01:08:50,210
Why?
1146
01:08:50,294 --> 01:08:51,837
Pamela?
1147
01:08:52,546 --> 01:08:53,547
God.
1148
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:58,802
Hi, Pamela. How are you?
It's been decades.
1149
01:08:58,885 --> 01:09:02,681
I know, Laura. It's really been a while.
How's life?
1150
01:09:02,764 --> 01:09:03,849
It's good.
1151
01:09:04,433 --> 01:09:06,184
How's everything? How are you?
1152
01:09:07,185 --> 01:09:08,645
Yeah, I'm okay.
1153
01:09:09,271 --> 01:09:10,731
That's great
1154
01:09:10,814 --> 01:09:13,900
Laura, ha ve you had any calls
from repaiters
1155
01:09:13,984 --> 01:09:16,028
trying to write stories about Harvey?
1156
01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:18,697
Uh, I have, actually. Yes.
1157
01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:20,574
I didn't talk to them.
1158
01:09:21,408 --> 01:09:23,243
Good that's good to hear.
1159
01:09:23,327 --> 01:09:25,245
Cockroach journalists.
1160
01:09:25,329 --> 01:09:27,789
It was great wasn't it? Back then?
1161
01:09:27,873 --> 01:09:29,958
Harvey was always very generous.
1162
01:09:30,917 --> 01:09:32,586
That wasn't my experience.
1163
01:09:33,712 --> 01:09:37,007
Laura, can I have your assurance
that you won't talk to anyone?
1164
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:40,093
What? What did you say?
1165
01:09:40,886 --> 01:09:43,388
If you have a project,
I can take it to Harvey
1166
01:09:44,181 --> 01:09:45,182
idont
1167
01:09:45,891 --> 01:09:47,642
and I'll talk to who I please.
1168
01:10:02,324 --> 01:10:04,004
- [Concierge] Good evening.
- Good evening.
1169
01:10:04,076 --> 01:10:07,412
I need to book a flight to cornwall
first thing in the morning.
1170
01:10:07,496 --> 01:10:08,872
Flight to cornwall tomorrow?
1171
01:10:08,955 --> 01:10:12,000
Yes. To newquay airport?
1172
01:10:12,084 --> 01:10:13,502
- Newquay.
- [Jodi] Newquay.
1173
01:10:13,585 --> 01:10:15,295
You'd normally just get a train.
1174
01:10:15,379 --> 01:10:16,588
Okay, train, then.
1175
01:10:30,519 --> 01:10:32,771
[Jodi]
This is a nice place for a vacation.
1176
01:10:32,854 --> 01:10:33,980
- Yeah.
- Mom.
1177
01:10:35,148 --> 01:10:37,234
Um, hywel wants to play at the rocks.
Is that okay?
1178
01:10:37,317 --> 01:10:38,610
- Yeah, sure.
- Okay.
1179
01:10:40,779 --> 01:10:42,280
Is that your eldest?
1180
01:10:42,364 --> 01:10:43,698
Yes. [Chuckles]
1181
01:10:44,991 --> 01:10:46,576
Yes. She's 13.
1182
01:10:49,037 --> 01:10:50,205
You grew up in Ireland?
1183
01:10:50,288 --> 01:10:52,207
I did, yes.
1184
01:10:53,375 --> 01:10:58,004
And your first job was
wrangling extras in '92?
1185
01:10:58,088 --> 01:11:00,173
They were shooting near us.
1186
01:11:00,257 --> 01:11:01,341
I loved it
1187
01:11:02,217 --> 01:11:04,970
and then I heard that miramax
were making a film nearby,
1188
01:11:05,053 --> 01:11:07,472
and I got a job
as a runner on that.
1189
01:11:07,556 --> 01:11:09,474
I was ecstatic. It was great.
1190
01:11:11,393 --> 01:11:14,312
And you met
Harvey weinstein when?
1191
01:11:14,896 --> 01:11:16,314
Soon after that.
1192
01:11:16,398 --> 01:11:19,109
I was going to be working
directly for him.
1193
01:11:19,192 --> 01:11:21,319
Doing errands, answering calls.
1194
01:11:22,112 --> 01:11:24,448
I was very happy to be asked.
1195
01:11:27,033 --> 01:11:28,160
He was charming.
1196
01:11:28,243 --> 01:11:32,164
He was saying he'd heard
how hard / worked
1197
01:11:32,247 --> 01:11:34,958
and / was just excited
1198
01:11:36,042 --> 01:11:37,294
I was 27, you know.
1199
01:11:37,377 --> 01:11:40,213
I/eiy young, but incredibly keen.
1200
01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:45,635
So when he said he'd give me
a permanent job at the London ofiice,
1201
01:11:45,719 --> 01:11:47,387
I felt so happy.
1202
01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:50,182
[Jodi] He said that in the meeting?
1203
01:11:50,265 --> 01:11:51,558
[Laura] Yes.
1204
01:11:51,641 --> 01:11:55,061
He was in his bathrobe
when he opened the door,
1205
01:11:55,145 --> 01:11:58,773
but I thought that was
maybe very Hollywood.
1206
01:11:59,858 --> 01:12:01,776
But quite soon into talking,
1207
01:12:02,694 --> 01:12:04,946
he said would I give him
a massage.
1208
01:12:07,741 --> 01:12:08,909
I said, "no."
1209
01:12:09,868 --> 01:12:13,288
He was very matter-of-fact.
He said, "it's not a romantic request."
1210
01:12:13,371 --> 01:12:15,123
Everyone does it for him.
1211
01:12:15,832 --> 01:12:17,250
It's part of the job.
1212
01:12:20,337 --> 01:12:25,300
So, I suddenly thought
that I was the problem, you know.
1213
01:12:25,383 --> 01:12:28,053
That I was the one
who was sexualizing it.
1214
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:30,972
That I was just young
and uptight.
1215
01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:33,266
So, I...
1216
01:12:34,935 --> 01:12:37,103
I put my hands on his shoulders,
1217
01:12:37,187 --> 01:12:42,025
but I couldn't actually move them at all
over his body.
1218
01:12:43,068 --> 01:12:45,820
I just stood there.
My hands wouldn't move.
1219
01:12:46,530 --> 01:12:50,784
And then he said he would give me
a massage first...
1220
01:12:51,868 --> 01:12:53,203
To relax me.
1221
01:12:56,248 --> 01:12:57,749
And he said,
1222
01:12:57,832 --> 01:13:01,503
"look, all the girls do it.
It's just work."
1223
01:13:02,754 --> 01:13:05,173
And then he said,
"take your top off."
1224
01:13:05,757 --> 01:13:07,175
Very matter-of-fact.
1225
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:09,844
"Take your bra off."
1226
01:13:14,975 --> 01:13:16,059
And I did.
1227
01:13:17,727 --> 01:13:21,314
I was terrified, but I just thought,
1228
01:13:21,982 --> 01:13:24,568
"get through it. Do it."
1229
01:13:27,070 --> 01:13:28,780
And then my trousers were ofif
1230
01:13:28,863 --> 01:13:31,950
and he was standing over me...
1231
01:13:33,118 --> 01:13:34,452
Masturbating.
1232
01:13:36,121 --> 01:13:38,540
Iasked him to leave me alone.
1233
01:13:39,416 --> 01:13:42,502
But he kept asking for difierent things.
1234
01:13:42,586 --> 01:13:45,297
And then he suggested a shower,
and I got up.
1235
01:13:46,881 --> 01:13:49,259
And he carried on...
1236
01:13:50,385 --> 01:13:51,970
Masturbating.
1237
01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:54,681
And / kept crying.
1238
01:13:54,764 --> 01:13:57,559
And/ was sobbing,
and the water was pouring down,
1239
01:13:57,642 --> 01:14:01,646
and he was still masturbating.
1240
01:14:03,315 --> 01:14:04,482
Then he got angiy.
1241
01:14:04,566 --> 01:14:07,736
I think my crying was so loud
it put him ofif
1242
01:14:09,029 --> 01:14:11,740
and he left the bathroom,
1243
01:14:11,823 --> 01:14:13,908
and I locked the door.
1244
01:14:14,701 --> 01:14:17,329
- And I could still hear him...
- [Water running]
1245
01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:18,830
On the other side.
1246
01:14:19,623 --> 01:14:22,626
Still the sounds of him masturbating.
1247
01:14:25,170 --> 01:14:27,297
Finally, / went back into the room itself
1248
01:14:27,380 --> 01:14:31,259
and grabbed my clothes and belongings,
and I just ran.
1249
01:14:31,343 --> 01:14:33,720
Iran down the street
1250
01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:37,307
I've never run that fast in my life.
1251
01:14:43,647 --> 01:14:45,357
[Jodi] How do you feel about it now?
1252
01:14:52,113 --> 01:14:53,573
I... [sighs]
1253
01:14:56,159 --> 01:15:00,246
I feel like it dictated
a certain direction my life took.
1254
01:15:01,456 --> 01:15:05,210
That... I just felt that it was
this huge error of judgment
1255
01:15:05,293 --> 01:15:08,505
that sort of marked me
and all my decisions.
1256
01:15:09,881 --> 01:15:10,882
And...
1257
01:15:13,051 --> 01:15:15,345
I felt such shame...
1258
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:20,517
That... I let him do that.
1259
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:26,773
Did you think that he had done
the same to other girls?
1260
01:15:26,856 --> 01:15:28,733
I thought that
he must've tried it.
1261
01:15:30,694 --> 01:15:32,946
But that they'd all s...
1262
01:15:34,864 --> 01:15:36,449
They'd all said, "no."
1263
01:15:40,787 --> 01:15:44,082
It was like he took my voice that day.
1264
01:15:46,751 --> 01:15:51,005
Just when I was about
to start finding it.
1265
01:15:54,175 --> 01:15:56,195
[Sarah Sanders on TV]
Responsible immigration reform?
1266
01:15:56,219 --> 01:15:58,388
The president certainly welcomes
those con versations.
1267
01:15:58,471 --> 01:15:59,597
[Phone ringing]
1268
01:15:59,681 --> 01:16:00,682
Yes?
1269
01:16:00,765 --> 01:16:03,309
[Secretary] Lhave Harvey weinstein
on the phone for you.
1270
01:16:04,185 --> 01:16:05,520
Put him through. Thank you.
1271
01:16:08,398 --> 01:16:10,525
Dean, how are you?
This is Harvey
1272
01:16:10,608 --> 01:16:12,277
hi, Harvey.
What can I do for you?
1273
01:16:13,278 --> 01:16:15,613
If / hadn't made mo vies,
I would 've been a journalist
1274
01:16:17,198 --> 01:16:19,993
Dean, lheard someone was working
on a story about me.
1275
01:16:20,076 --> 01:16:22,871
Yes. If you'd like to talk
to the reporters on the record,
1276
01:16:22,954 --> 01:16:23,955
they'd welcome that.
1277
01:16:24,038 --> 01:16:25,081
I wanna talk to you, Dean.
1278
01:16:25,165 --> 01:16:27,292
Well, talk to my reporters
about your concerns.
1279
01:16:27,375 --> 01:16:29,419
I'm sorry. I have work to do.
1280
01:16:29,502 --> 01:16:30,712
Are you gonna hang up?
1281
01:16:30,795 --> 01:16:32,630
Unless you have anything else to say?
1282
01:16:33,298 --> 01:16:34,549
I/o ve the truth.
1283
01:16:35,300 --> 01:16:37,260
People make up stories a lot
1284
01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:39,220
be careful with that
1285
01:16:39,304 --> 01:16:41,222
that's fine, Harvey. Goodbye.
1286
01:16:42,724 --> 01:16:45,703
[News anchor on TV] But essentially,
Sarah Sanders was saying, ”hey, america.”
1287
01:16:45,727 --> 01:16:49,022
Perhaps they didn't like it
they didn't put him in the oval ofi'ice.
1288
01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,776
Pretty in-depth. But the focus
was primarily on solutions...
1289
01:16:52,859 --> 01:16:54,486
[Phone ringing]
1290
01:16:57,572 --> 01:16:59,199
- Hi, Chanel.
- Hey, Dean.
1291
01:16:59,282 --> 01:17:00,325
Hey, Tim.
1292
01:17:06,456 --> 01:17:07,957
- Matt, you got a minute?
- Yeah.
1293
01:17:09,834 --> 01:17:11,044
[Dean] So, what do we have?
1294
01:17:11,127 --> 01:17:13,129
Well, the biggest thing
is the documents
1295
01:17:13,213 --> 01:17:15,465
that Jodi got from Zelda Perkins
in London.
1296
01:17:15,548 --> 01:17:17,592
Rose is still off the record,
1297
01:17:17,675 --> 01:17:20,762
but she has given us permission
to write about her settlement.
1298
01:17:20,845 --> 01:17:23,223
We're just trying to figure out
a way to confirm it.
1299
01:17:23,306 --> 01:17:27,060
Harvey offered her a million dollars
recently for her silence.
1300
01:17:27,602 --> 01:17:28,603
And?
1301
01:17:28,686 --> 01:17:31,147
Rose refused,
but she doesn't want us to quote her.
1302
01:17:31,231 --> 01:17:33,858
There are still no on-the-record sources.
Ndas are a problem.
1303
01:17:34,526 --> 01:17:35,920
[Megan] Laura Madden didn't sign one.
1304
01:17:35,944 --> 01:17:39,239
She's the only ex-assistant
who is technically free to speak.
1305
01:17:39,322 --> 01:17:42,682
Ashley and Gwyneth didn't sign one either,
but they're not ready to go on the record.
1306
01:17:42,742 --> 01:17:45,829
But Laura Madden has to deal with
something very different right now.
1307
01:17:45,912 --> 01:17:48,057
[Megan] She has breast cancer.
She has to go into surgery.
1308
01:17:48,081 --> 01:17:49,874
So, it's not likely.
1309
01:17:49,958 --> 01:17:52,043
I'm still leaving messages
for Rowena chiu,
1310
01:17:52,126 --> 01:17:53,753
but there's no engagement.
1311
01:17:53,837 --> 01:17:55,713
So, no more proven settlements.
1312
01:17:55,797 --> 01:17:58,758
Ambra battilana Gutierrez
almost certainly settled.
1313
01:17:58,842 --> 01:18:00,927
And John schmidt confirmed
that miramax settled
1314
01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:02,387
with the woman I visited
in queens.
1315
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:04,764
Anything more on the article
from the new yorker?
1316
01:18:06,766 --> 01:18:09,811
Lanny Davis and David boies
wanna come to talk to us.
1317
01:18:10,603 --> 01:18:11,604
What do you think?
1318
01:18:11,688 --> 01:18:15,358
Don't we wanna wait and push for
an on-the-record interview with weinstein?
1319
01:18:15,441 --> 01:18:16,943
It's your call, binky.
1320
01:18:17,026 --> 01:18:20,613
I'd like to talk to Lanny, at least.
See what he has to say.
1321
01:18:21,406 --> 01:18:23,116
[Lanny] Harvey's not always that rational.
1322
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:26,828
The reason I'm here as his representative
is not to try to kill anything.
1323
01:18:26,911 --> 01:18:30,957
I wanna know that if you're including
something like Rose mcgowan's claim,
1324
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,292
then we can defend that.
1325
01:18:32,375 --> 01:18:33,418
[Rebecca] Of course.
1326
01:18:34,168 --> 01:18:35,169
Please.
1327
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,259
I know you'll be investigating
with due diligence.
1328
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,388
Lanny, you'll have every chance
to respond.
1329
01:18:47,599 --> 01:18:49,601
- Uh...
- And I trust it's okay to record this?
1330
01:18:49,684 --> 01:18:50,852
Oh, of course. Sure.
1331
01:18:52,145 --> 01:18:56,065
I don't expect you to name sources,
but if it's possible for you
1332
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:59,861
to let me know overall
what your story's about?
1333
01:18:59,944 --> 01:19:03,364
We're looking into problematic behavior
towards women by weinstein.
1334
01:19:04,365 --> 01:19:05,366
Okay.
1335
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,747
Harvey adamantly denies
any allegation of rape or assault.
1336
01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:12,081
Nothing criminal.
1337
01:19:13,041 --> 01:19:16,753
But he is aware of complaints
about his treatment of women,
1338
01:19:16,836 --> 01:19:19,047
and he is working on that.
1339
01:19:20,048 --> 01:19:22,675
Powerful men of
an older generation
1340
01:19:23,468 --> 01:19:26,888
are changing their understanding
of the meaning of the word "consensual."
1341
01:19:26,971 --> 01:19:31,643
Why women don't feel it's consensual
even if a man convinces himself it is.
1342
01:19:32,685 --> 01:19:34,145
Do you wanna expand on that?
1343
01:19:35,021 --> 01:19:39,943
Uh, I believe there's a story to be told
about the evolution of men,
1344
01:19:40,026 --> 01:19:42,528
and, in particular, Harvey,
on this subject.
1345
01:19:43,571 --> 01:19:45,657
Would he be willing to talk to us
about it?
1346
01:19:45,740 --> 01:19:47,075
On the record?
1347
01:19:48,785 --> 01:19:52,246
He has to deal with his wife and children
before anything else.
1348
01:19:53,498 --> 01:19:57,669
You're adamant Rose mcgowan's
rape accusation is false.
1349
01:19:58,378 --> 01:19:59,379
Why is that?
1350
01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:03,633
Did she tell anybody right away?
Did she show any signs of distress?
1351
01:20:03,716 --> 01:20:06,302
She told her manager and a lawyer.
1352
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,307
Harvey was aware that
there was a problem with Rose,
1353
01:20:11,391 --> 01:20:14,477
but not that she was accusing him
of rape.
1354
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,521
So I draw a bright line
on the word "rape."
1355
01:20:16,604 --> 01:20:18,106
Anything below that line,
1356
01:20:19,023 --> 01:20:21,776
uh, he was aware of feelings, concerns.
1357
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,360
Of what kind?
1358
01:20:23,987 --> 01:20:24,988
I'm sorry. What...
1359
01:20:25,071 --> 01:20:28,658
If the concerns were not about rape,
what were they about?
1360
01:20:30,743 --> 01:20:32,829
The only way I can answer is, uh...
1361
01:20:35,164 --> 01:20:40,128
A sense of exploitation because of
that disparate power relationship.
1362
01:20:41,212 --> 01:20:45,258
There's mental coercion
that isn't physical coercion.
1363
01:20:45,341 --> 01:20:49,178
Lisa bloom has been working with Harvey
to help him recognize the difference.
1364
01:20:49,262 --> 01:20:51,681
- Lisa bloom?
- Yeah.
1365
01:20:53,141 --> 01:20:58,146
If Harvey had been made aware of
mcgowan's concerns at the time,
1366
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:59,897
how did he respond?
1367
01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:03,860
I think he had dealings legally with her
about them.
1368
01:21:04,902 --> 01:21:07,530
And how would you characterize
those legal dealings?
1369
01:21:10,158 --> 01:21:14,287
I think he became aware that she did not
regard what happened as okay with her.
1370
01:21:14,370 --> 01:21:15,580
I'm not talking about rape.
1371
01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:19,584
I'm talking about the effect he had
on Rose mcgowan.
1372
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:22,462
And that rather than fighting...
1373
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,090
"Rather than fighting"? Then...
1374
01:21:27,050 --> 01:21:28,051
Then what?
1375
01:21:31,345 --> 01:21:34,015
I think he has agreed to settlements
1376
01:21:34,098 --> 01:21:36,726
rather than litigating
what might have been litigated.
1377
01:21:36,809 --> 01:21:39,479
As Harvey saw it, it was better to settle,
1378
01:21:39,562 --> 01:21:41,439
even if you haven't done anything wrong.
1379
01:21:42,065 --> 01:21:43,483
He preferred "to settle"?
1380
01:21:45,526 --> 01:21:49,447
Were there other cases of
questionable intimate relations with women
1381
01:21:49,530 --> 01:21:51,115
in which weinstein settled?
1382
01:21:53,785 --> 01:21:55,036
Let's say for now,
1383
01:21:56,037 --> 01:21:57,455
even on a background basis,
1384
01:21:57,538 --> 01:21:59,957
that I need to find out
what my limits are legally.
1385
01:22:00,541 --> 01:22:04,212
Even if on background,
I'm confirming settlements.
1386
01:22:04,295 --> 01:22:07,924
But the answer is, yes, there have been.
1387
01:22:11,052 --> 01:22:12,136
How many?
1388
01:22:17,725 --> 01:22:18,935
[Chuckles]
1389
01:22:19,018 --> 01:22:22,897
To admit to settlements this early,
they're in real trouble.
1390
01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:25,983
We need to find out a number.
We need to corroborate each one.
1391
01:22:26,067 --> 01:22:27,860
- I'm on it.
- [Cell phone buzzes]
1392
01:22:27,944 --> 01:22:30,530
Have you guys had any dealings
with Diana filip?
1393
01:22:32,406 --> 01:22:34,206
I said no to speaking
at a women's conference.
1394
01:22:34,242 --> 01:22:35,535
She just keeps on calling me.
1395
01:22:35,618 --> 01:22:37,120
Did you have her checked out?
1396
01:22:37,203 --> 01:22:40,665
The security consultant says she's legit,
but who has time for these random people?
1397
01:22:42,959 --> 01:22:44,585
[Cell phone buzzing]
1398
01:22:54,178 --> 01:22:55,346
Hello?
1399
01:22:55,429 --> 01:22:59,225
[Ex-miramax employee] I worked at miramax.
Talk to lrwin reiter. He hates weinstein.
1400
01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:00,560
[Line clicks]
1401
01:23:05,273 --> 01:23:07,733
[Cell phone buzzing]
1402
01:23:10,653 --> 01:23:12,363
Hey. Are you okay?
1403
01:23:12,446 --> 01:23:13,698
[Jodi] Did I wake you?
1404
01:23:15,324 --> 01:23:17,493
Um, yeah. What's up?
1405
01:23:18,494 --> 01:23:20,496
What do you know about lrwin reiter?
1406
01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:23,332
Hang on.
1407
01:23:23,875 --> 01:23:25,459
I put together a file on him.
1408
01:23:26,043 --> 01:23:28,588
I need to write a good fucking email.
1409
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,810
Hi. Thanks for meeting me.
1410
01:23:43,519 --> 01:23:44,937
You wanna get me killed?
1411
01:23:52,486 --> 01:23:53,738
So, inivin,
1412
01:23:54,614 --> 01:23:57,950
you've been an accountant
for the weinsteins for 30 years.
1413
01:24:01,996 --> 01:24:05,416
I pick up the check, and I reserve
the right to leave after five minutes.
1414
01:24:06,167 --> 01:24:07,460
So... [clears throat]
1415
01:24:08,377 --> 01:24:09,754
What do you wanna know?
1416
01:24:09,837 --> 01:24:13,549
We have information on several settlements
that weinstein made in the '903.
1417
01:24:13,633 --> 01:24:16,427
Paid to actresses
and ex-employees.
1418
01:24:17,470 --> 01:24:19,388
Could you tell me anything
about that?
1419
01:24:21,849 --> 01:24:24,185
Could you confirm
those settlements,
1420
01:24:24,268 --> 01:24:26,312
and how it was
from your perspective?
1421
01:24:26,395 --> 01:24:27,480
My "perspective"?
1422
01:24:29,023 --> 01:24:31,525
Would it be company money
that was used?
1423
01:24:32,944 --> 01:24:36,030
You wrote that
we're from the same tiny world.
1424
01:24:36,113 --> 01:24:37,156
Yeah.
1425
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,450
Summers at bungalows
in the catskills.
1426
01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:42,245
Meals at lefty's and pop-ins.
[Chuckles]
1427
01:24:42,328 --> 01:24:44,413
What do you remember
about those holidays?
1428
01:24:45,081 --> 01:24:47,333
Gosh, I remember so many things.
1429
01:24:48,459 --> 01:24:51,420
It's the first time I remember seeing
my grandmother's arms bare.
1430
01:24:52,505 --> 01:24:56,008
I knew those tattoos
meant something seismic.
1431
01:24:56,926 --> 01:24:58,719
Yeah, how did you know?
1432
01:24:58,803 --> 01:25:00,263
I just sensed it.
1433
01:25:01,222 --> 01:25:03,057
Did your family discuss it?
1434
01:25:07,395 --> 01:25:08,813
Who else are you talking to?
1435
01:25:09,438 --> 01:25:11,232
I can't disclose that, inivin.
1436
01:25:14,026 --> 01:25:17,029
You know, my parents...
They couldn't go there.
1437
01:25:17,113 --> 01:25:19,115
They rarely discussed it.
1438
01:25:20,908 --> 01:25:22,702
It's so mysterious, isn't it?
1439
01:25:23,786 --> 01:25:25,871
Why some families talk.
1440
01:25:25,955 --> 01:25:27,206
Some don't.
1441
01:25:29,458 --> 01:25:34,255
The money weinstein was spending
was, you know, crazy.
1442
01:25:34,338 --> 01:25:38,092
I tried. I tried many times
to get the board to do something about it,
1443
01:25:38,175 --> 01:25:42,555
but they just kept ignoring his behavior
and keeping him on.
1444
01:25:42,638 --> 01:25:43,973
Why is that?
1445
01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:47,310
Have you talked to loc?
1446
01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:50,813
Or zp?
1447
01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:52,315
Who is "loc"?
1448
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:54,525
There was this memo.
1449
01:25:55,693 --> 01:25:58,487
Let me ask you something, Jodi,
that's really puzzling me.
1450
01:25:59,322 --> 01:26:01,198
Why are you asking
about the '90s,
1451
01:26:01,282 --> 01:26:04,827
when weinstein has committed
so many more recent offenses?
1452
01:26:06,996 --> 01:26:08,039
I gotta go.
1453
01:26:08,914 --> 01:26:10,666
- I'll give you a call.
- Innin.
1454
01:26:44,075 --> 01:26:45,076
[Talia] Mom. [Crying]
1455
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,370
I had a nightmare.
1456
01:26:47,453 --> 01:26:48,913
Oh, honey. Come here.
1457
01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:56,587
Shh, shh, shh, shh.
1458
01:26:56,670 --> 01:26:58,172
It's okay. It's okay.
1459
01:26:58,255 --> 01:27:02,843
I heard that ambra battilana Gutierrez
just got a seven-figure settlement.
1460
01:27:02,927 --> 01:27:06,347
And that weinstein now owns
the audio of the incident?
1461
01:27:08,224 --> 01:27:10,226
These settlements, Lanny,
1462
01:27:11,435 --> 01:27:12,436
what are we talking?
1463
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:17,400
I can't tell you that, Megan.
You know that.
1464
01:27:17,483 --> 01:27:19,527
I'm not talking about naming you,
of course.
1465
01:27:19,610 --> 01:27:22,405
It would just be
great for background.
1466
01:27:23,072 --> 01:27:26,200
To know a number
of the other settlements
1467
01:27:26,283 --> 01:27:27,660
that you're aware of.
1468
01:27:28,327 --> 01:27:30,371
- I'm not a bad guy here.
- I know that.
1469
01:27:30,454 --> 01:27:35,626
My profession is to get the facts
into the hands of reporters... [chuckles]
1470
01:27:35,709 --> 01:27:38,212
But, you know, I can't help.
1471
01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:43,843
I keep getting 40 in my head.
1472
01:27:43,926 --> 01:27:45,177
[Sighs]
1473
01:27:45,261 --> 01:27:47,096
Which would be ridiculous,
right?
1474
01:27:50,307 --> 01:27:51,392
Right?
1475
01:27:55,312 --> 01:27:56,313
It's not 40.
1476
01:27:58,983 --> 01:28:02,862
Seriously, it's, uh,
less than 40.
1477
01:28:02,945 --> 01:28:04,864
Well, good. That's a relief.
1478
01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:06,198
Sure. [Chuckles]
1479
01:28:11,036 --> 01:28:14,790
Less than half of 40, then?
1480
01:28:15,583 --> 01:28:17,376
- Check.
- Oh, and what the fuck, Lanny?
1481
01:28:17,460 --> 01:28:19,962
We heard that Ronan farrow
is working on a story.
1482
01:28:20,045 --> 01:28:22,715
No, no. That is done. Over.
1483
01:28:25,801 --> 01:28:28,012
I don't see you
as a bad guy, Lanny.
1484
01:28:29,221 --> 01:28:31,390
Idont.lneverhave. Irespectyou.
1485
01:28:31,474 --> 01:28:33,017
I respect you.
1486
01:28:34,768 --> 01:28:37,521
[Sighs]
1487
01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:40,774
This is all gonna come out,
Lanny.
1488
01:28:41,775 --> 01:28:43,277
Publicly.
1489
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,695
Generally does.
1490
01:28:45,946 --> 01:28:48,741
- Okay. [Laughs]
- [Laughs]
1491
01:28:52,328 --> 01:28:53,787
What am I laughing about?
1492
01:28:56,332 --> 01:28:58,542
[Sighs] Oh, Megan.
1493
01:28:59,835 --> 01:29:00,836
Lanny.
1494
01:29:10,095 --> 01:29:11,805
I'd say eight to 12 settlements.
1495
01:29:24,944 --> 01:29:26,612
And do you think that's normal?
1496
01:29:28,030 --> 01:29:30,449
For men to make so many payoffs?
1497
01:29:35,204 --> 01:29:37,206
I do. Yeah.
1498
01:29:42,044 --> 01:29:43,754
It feels like we're so close.
1499
01:29:44,380 --> 01:29:45,631
Do you think we'll get it?
1500
01:29:45,714 --> 01:29:46,715
What if we don't?
1501
01:29:48,217 --> 01:29:49,802
I'm having nightmares about him.
1502
01:29:49,885 --> 01:29:51,262
Oh, my god. I have them too.
1503
01:29:51,345 --> 01:29:52,680
Yeah?
1504
01:29:52,763 --> 01:29:57,184
I'm terrified we know all this,
and we might go to our graves knowing it.
1505
01:29:58,060 --> 01:29:59,478
The story will run.
1506
01:29:59,562 --> 01:30:02,398
My worry is people won't care.
1507
01:30:03,232 --> 01:30:05,985
And he won't even be slowed down,
let alone stopped.
1508
01:30:06,485 --> 01:30:08,862
It's like an ocean
of wrongdoing.
1509
01:30:08,946 --> 01:30:11,574
I mean, can you imagine
how many harveys there are out there?
1510
01:30:11,657 --> 01:30:12,700
Every day?
1511
01:30:14,076 --> 01:30:15,619
I sometimes wonder...
1512
01:30:18,789 --> 01:30:20,624
When I had Mira,
1513
01:30:23,627 --> 01:30:24,837
if all the trauma,
1514
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,216
not just in me, but in all
of the women I talked to,
1515
01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:30,301
if it just...
1516
01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:35,681
This darkness, this constant violence,
if it just sort of imploded?
1517
01:30:37,141 --> 01:30:41,395
Maybe that's part of the depression
that hits women.
1518
01:30:45,357 --> 01:30:47,693
Do you wish you hadn't signed up
for this story?
1519
01:30:50,195 --> 01:30:51,363
Do you?
1520
01:30:55,367 --> 01:30:56,619
No. [Chuckles]
1521
01:31:04,126 --> 01:31:07,588
[Jodi] The last time we met,
you mentioned a memo?
1522
01:31:15,095 --> 01:31:18,265
It was from an ex-executive.
1523
01:31:18,349 --> 01:31:20,517
And it was extensive, scathing.
1524
01:31:20,601 --> 01:31:22,186
She sent it to the board.
1525
01:31:22,269 --> 01:31:24,647
When was this?
How did they react?
1526
01:31:24,730 --> 01:31:27,941
It was a short burst
of behind-doors mayhem, and then she left.
1527
01:31:29,151 --> 01:31:31,070
What did her memo say?
1528
01:31:31,153 --> 01:31:33,238
That the company
was a toxic environment.
1529
01:31:35,741 --> 01:31:37,201
Would anyone have a copy?
1530
01:31:37,284 --> 01:31:38,994
[Laughs]
1531
01:31:44,208 --> 01:31:45,209
Hey.
1532
01:31:47,169 --> 01:31:49,630
- Sorry it's so late.
- Mmm.
1533
01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:54,551
[Jodi] You okay?
1534
01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:58,305
Uh, Talia was up late.
Violet woke up twice.
1535
01:31:58,389 --> 01:32:02,226
I have an inbox filled with enraged people
about this insurance story
1536
01:32:02,309 --> 01:32:03,977
which is going to be huge.
1537
01:32:04,061 --> 01:32:07,564
There is already hundreds of emails here,
1538
01:32:07,648 --> 01:32:11,443
and there is... [chuckles]
A hurricane heading towards Florida.
1539
01:32:11,527 --> 01:32:13,570
So, I am going to somehow fly down there
1540
01:32:13,654 --> 01:32:17,574
and move my dad some place else
before he is literally blown away.
1541
01:32:17,658 --> 01:32:20,619
And I have a slight nervous twitch
in my eye.
1542
01:32:20,703 --> 01:32:21,787
Let me see.
1543
01:32:25,124 --> 01:32:26,625
[Sighs]
1544
01:32:26,917 --> 01:32:28,377
Can you get the raisin?
1545
01:32:28,460 --> 01:32:30,796
[Both laughing]
1546
01:32:30,879 --> 01:32:34,049
- Hey! Hey! Holly!
- [Chattering, laughing]
1547
01:32:35,092 --> 01:32:37,261
- [Cell phone ringing]
- Slow down.
1548
01:32:37,344 --> 01:32:39,096
Here.
Will you hold crabby for a second?
1549
01:32:39,179 --> 01:32:40,305
Least they're having fun.
1550
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,434
Hi. This is Jodi kantor.
1551
01:32:43,517 --> 01:32:46,145
This is Rowena chiu.
I'm in New York.
1552
01:32:46,937 --> 01:32:48,814
Do you still want to meet up?
1553
01:32:50,023 --> 01:32:51,275
I couldn't tell anyone.
1554
01:32:51,984 --> 01:32:54,486
Not my parents.
Not even my husband.
1555
01:32:55,279 --> 01:32:56,280
Why not?
1556
01:32:58,365 --> 01:33:00,701
I grew up in an immigrant household.
1557
01:33:00,784 --> 01:33:03,328
I was taught to keep my head down,
1558
01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:06,582
work hard and not draw attention
to myself, you know?
1559
01:33:07,458 --> 01:33:11,962
In Chinese culture, I felt
I had to protect my family at all costs.
1560
01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:15,674
And I was young, scared.
1561
01:33:18,677 --> 01:33:21,346
Can you tell me anything
about what happened in venice?
1562
01:33:24,308 --> 01:33:26,894
This is off the record, yeah?
1563
01:33:30,898 --> 01:33:32,399
I had the evening shifts,
1564
01:33:32,483 --> 01:33:34,818
going through notes
on screenplays with Harvey.
1565
01:33:35,694 --> 01:33:37,237
One night, we were working,
1566
01:33:37,321 --> 01:33:40,783
and he kept trying to touch me.
1567
01:33:41,533 --> 01:33:45,954
I didn't want to make him angry.
He's a very big man.
1568
01:33:47,122 --> 01:33:49,374
I kept trying
to get back to the notes.
1569
01:33:49,458 --> 01:33:54,505
And that went on for a few hours,
just trying to avoid him.
1570
01:33:54,588 --> 01:33:56,215
How did you do that?
1571
01:33:57,841 --> 01:34:00,552
I would just fight him off.
1572
01:34:02,012 --> 01:34:06,266
I'd worn two pairs of tights
to buy me some time if I ever needed it.
1573
01:34:07,851 --> 01:34:09,770
But finally,
1574
01:34:10,687 --> 01:34:13,065
he held me down.
1575
01:34:14,107 --> 01:34:17,152
Not forcefully,
but like it was a game.
1576
01:34:19,279 --> 01:34:21,990
Then he parted my legs.
1577
01:34:23,492 --> 01:34:24,743
And he said...
1578
01:34:26,787 --> 01:34:30,624
"Please, just one thrust,
and it'll all be over."
1579
01:34:34,962 --> 01:34:36,338
I got away.
1580
01:34:36,421 --> 01:34:38,173
I was traumatized.
1581
01:34:38,257 --> 01:34:41,176
I was a Christian.
I was still with my first boyfriend.
1582
01:34:42,636 --> 01:34:45,180
And you shared this with Zelda?
1583
01:34:45,264 --> 01:34:49,476
Zelda was completely enraged
and very brave in facing him.
1584
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:51,645
We both resigned.
1585
01:34:54,022 --> 01:34:56,441
But I couldn't get a new job
after leaving miramax.
1586
01:34:57,150 --> 01:35:00,195
Everyone kept saying
if I worked for Harvey, why would I leave?
1587
01:35:01,822 --> 01:35:04,533
The nda that we signed,
1588
01:35:04,616 --> 01:35:08,495
it stipulated that if I ever had trouble
getting a job in film again,
1589
01:35:09,329 --> 01:35:12,833
I was to go back to Harvey
or his lawyer, hutensky, for help.
1590
01:35:14,084 --> 01:35:17,254
I asked them for a reference,
1591
01:35:17,337 --> 01:35:21,758
and hutensky, he kept repeating...
1592
01:35:24,094 --> 01:35:25,721
What? What was he saying?
1593
01:35:28,724 --> 01:35:30,976
How much Harvey valued me.
1594
01:35:35,647 --> 01:35:38,650
We agreed I would return to miramax
1595
01:35:39,276 --> 01:35:41,028
under strict conditions.
1596
01:35:43,447 --> 01:35:46,283
So, I signed for Hong Kong.
1597
01:35:47,659 --> 01:35:50,329
I thought he would
be far enough away.
1598
01:35:51,163 --> 01:35:52,539
I thought I'd be okay.
1599
01:35:55,626 --> 01:35:57,210
But it was horrible.
1600
01:35:58,587 --> 01:35:59,671
I was a mess.
1601
01:36:00,380 --> 01:36:03,050
I felt incredibly alone.
1602
01:36:04,343 --> 01:36:06,511
I couldn't tell anyone about it
1603
01:36:06,595 --> 01:36:10,015
and the isolation just ate into me.
1604
01:36:11,516 --> 01:36:13,352
[Speaking cantonese]
1605
01:36:18,649 --> 01:36:20,609
[Rowena] One day / disappeared from work
1606
01:36:23,028 --> 01:36:24,780
I wanted to be dead
1607
01:36:26,531 --> 01:36:28,075
I didn't know how to be,
1608
01:36:28,784 --> 01:36:31,620
how to keep going, living with it
1609
01:36:33,956 --> 01:36:35,666
I tried to kill myself
1610
01:36:36,458 --> 01:36:39,169
but / didn't know how.
1611
01:36:39,252 --> 01:36:40,587
[Chuckles]
1612
01:36:41,171 --> 01:36:43,131
I felt / failed at even that
1613
01:36:48,011 --> 01:36:49,346
I wanna give you this.
1614
01:36:51,139 --> 01:36:55,185
It's a description from an actress
you would know and recognize.
1615
01:37:10,617 --> 01:37:11,618
What?
1616
01:37:11,702 --> 01:37:15,497
This person won't go on the record.
I can't put her in the story.
1617
01:37:24,423 --> 01:37:25,799
[Stammering] I... I didn't...
1618
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:29,386
I didn't know anything like this.
1619
01:37:33,223 --> 01:37:35,934
I thought it was just
extramarital bullshit.
1620
01:37:36,685 --> 01:37:37,769
It's not.
1621
01:38:04,713 --> 01:38:06,173
Do with it what you want.
1622
01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:33,742
[Camera shutter clicking]
1623
01:38:58,558 --> 01:39:00,661
- [Cell phone dings]
- [CNN reporter] ...Nota single bit
1624
01:39:00,685 --> 01:39:02,395
of aid or assistance,
1625
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,731
and it's about 45 minutes' drive...
1626
01:39:04,815 --> 01:39:05,816
Shit.
1627
01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:07,400
This is it.
1628
01:39:08,568 --> 01:39:09,694
This is it.
1629
01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:11,530
[Cell phone dings]
1630
01:39:17,536 --> 01:39:21,164
[Lauren o'Connor] For your records.
November 3rd 2075.
1631
01:39:21,915 --> 01:39:26,419
I ha ve experienced repeated harassment
and abuse from the head of this company.
1632
01:39:27,254 --> 01:39:31,174
I am a 28-year-old woman
trying to make a living and a career.
1633
01:39:31,842 --> 01:39:33,593
I am a professional.
1634
01:39:33,677 --> 01:39:36,304
I am sexual/zed and diminished
1635
01:39:36,388 --> 01:39:38,682
lha ve been feaiful about speaking up,
1636
01:39:38,765 --> 01:39:42,352
but remaining silent
is causing me great distress.
1637
01:39:42,435 --> 01:39:44,271
He told me, ”I'm a bad boy,
1638
01:39:44,354 --> 01:39:47,023
but what's important
is that I'm honest about it"
1639
01:39:47,107 --> 01:39:50,777
he said the only thing
I was good for was making babies.
1640
01:39:50,861 --> 01:39:55,532
An assistant told me Harvey made her
give him a massage while he was naked
1641
01:39:55,615 --> 01:39:58,910
it was horrible to see her so upset
1642
01:39:58,994 --> 01:40:02,581
when / complained
to their human resources executive,
1643
01:40:02,664 --> 01:40:08,295
the response was, ”I et us know if
he hits you or crosses a line physically ”
1644
01:40:08,378 --> 01:40:12,966
Harvey weinstein is
a 64-year-old world-famous man,
1645
01:40:13,049 --> 01:40:15,343
and this is his company
1646
01:40:15,427 --> 01:40:20,515
the balance of po wer is me, zero,
Harvey weinstein, ten.
1647
01:40:30,734 --> 01:40:31,860
Go write.
1648
01:40:31,943 --> 01:40:33,069
[Matt] You've got the story.
1649
01:40:33,153 --> 01:40:34,839
Once we publish,
everything else will come out.
1650
01:40:34,863 --> 01:40:37,032
- And talk to Lauren o'Connor.
- Yeah.
1651
01:40:37,115 --> 01:40:39,534
Get a hold of the weinstein company board
for their response.
1652
01:40:39,618 --> 01:40:41,578
Let me call Lance maerov.
1653
01:40:41,661 --> 01:40:43,079
Write it. Let's get ready.
1654
01:40:46,750 --> 01:40:49,002
[Lawyer]
My client does not want to be named
1655
01:40:49,085 --> 01:40:51,671
that memo was never
for public distribution.
1656
01:40:51,755 --> 01:40:52,756
[Rebecca] Lauren.
1657
01:40:53,465 --> 01:40:56,593
[Lawyer] My client is here,
but she is too upset to speak.
1658
01:40:56,676 --> 01:40:59,429
Lauren, I'm sorry
this is difficult for you.
1659
01:40:59,512 --> 01:41:01,681
We're not gonna publish the whole memo.
1660
01:41:01,765 --> 01:41:04,893
And we will make it absolutely clear
you were not the source
1661
01:41:04,976 --> 01:41:06,603
and that you declined to comment.
1662
01:41:07,354 --> 01:41:10,565
But we do intend to use your name
for its credibility.
1663
01:41:11,191 --> 01:41:15,111
If you were a victim of sexual assault,
we would absolutely keep your anonymity.
1664
01:41:15,820 --> 01:41:17,656
But as a witness to what went on,
1665
01:41:17,739 --> 01:41:21,117
it would make this story much stronger
to name you.
1666
01:41:21,201 --> 01:41:24,079
Hi, Lance. This is Megan twohey
from the New York 77mes.
1667
01:41:24,162 --> 01:41:27,374
We have a memo here from Lauren o'Connor
to the weinstein company.
1668
01:41:27,457 --> 01:41:28,875
What? Shit.
1669
01:41:28,959 --> 01:41:30,478
We wanna know,
what did you do about it?
1670
01:41:30,502 --> 01:41:32,254
What did the board do about it?
1671
01:41:37,717 --> 01:41:38,718
Lance?
1672
01:41:39,719 --> 01:41:43,181
We did try to change things
with the police complaint in 2015.
1673
01:41:43,265 --> 01:41:46,017
What about this memo?
It was there and then it was gone?
1674
01:41:46,101 --> 01:41:49,521
Look, we were all worried
about Harvey's behavior.
1675
01:41:49,604 --> 01:41:51,439
Can I quote you, Lance?
1676
01:41:54,484 --> 01:41:55,485
Yes.
1677
01:41:56,111 --> 01:41:57,737
Yes, you can.
1678
01:41:58,446 --> 01:42:00,115
So, Lauren's complaint?
1679
01:42:03,368 --> 01:42:06,746
It was withdrawn days after it was sent.
1680
01:42:06,830 --> 01:42:08,039
So, yeah, I let it go.
1681
01:42:08,123 --> 01:42:10,083
Well, why do you think it was withdrawn?
1682
01:42:10,875 --> 01:42:12,335
I really don't know why.
1683
01:42:13,586 --> 01:42:16,548
Look, are you sure
that this isn't just young women
1684
01:42:16,631 --> 01:42:19,426
who wanna sleep with a movie producer
to try to get ahead?
1685
01:42:20,677 --> 01:42:22,846
We have decades of allegations,
1686
01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:26,766
accusations of harassment,
assault, rape,
1687
01:42:26,850 --> 01:42:28,601
and multiple settlements.
1688
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,319
I know you're gonna need to
speak to the board,
1689
01:42:33,398 --> 01:42:35,191
but could you wait
until after the weekend?
1690
01:42:36,818 --> 01:42:37,902
Is that possible?
1691
01:42:38,528 --> 01:42:39,738
[Clears throat]
1692
01:42:40,822 --> 01:42:41,823
Okay.
1693
01:42:51,124 --> 01:42:52,125
[Jodi] Ashley,
1694
01:42:52,792 --> 01:42:55,587
I know that ideally a lot of women
would be jumping together,
1695
01:42:55,670 --> 01:42:57,130
but that's not what's happening.
1696
01:42:58,548 --> 01:43:02,510
But we do have a series of incidents
and a predatory pattern.
1697
01:43:03,136 --> 01:43:05,013
You would be coming fonnard alone,
1698
01:43:05,096 --> 01:43:07,932
but you would be standing
on a mountain of evidence.
1699
01:43:11,644 --> 01:43:12,687
Ashley?
1700
01:43:13,355 --> 01:43:16,524
Yes. I '/I think about it
very seriously, Jodi.
1701
01:43:17,192 --> 01:43:18,526
I promise.
1702
01:43:18,610 --> 01:43:19,861
Thank you, Ashley.
1703
01:43:20,487 --> 01:43:21,654
[Line clicks]
1704
01:43:24,199 --> 01:43:25,742
[Dean] We go with what we have.
1705
01:43:25,825 --> 01:43:28,370
I know we need to be mindful
of the new yorker,
1706
01:43:28,453 --> 01:43:31,956
but couldn't we wait just a little longer,
just for these women to commit?
1707
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:33,708
No. We need to publish.
1708
01:43:33,792 --> 01:43:35,627
It's nothing like the whole story.
1709
01:43:35,710 --> 01:43:38,838
This can be the first arrow.
More women will come fonnard aftennards.
1710
01:43:39,589 --> 01:43:41,758
It could be
so much stronger, Dean.
1711
01:43:42,342 --> 01:43:43,343
It's solid.
1712
01:43:44,135 --> 01:43:45,261
We need to go.
1713
01:43:45,845 --> 01:43:49,349
How much time will we give weinstein
to respond?
1714
01:43:49,432 --> 01:43:50,475
Twenty-four hours?
1715
01:43:50,558 --> 01:43:51,601
[Rebecca] I'd double it.
1716
01:43:52,185 --> 01:43:54,020
Forty-eight hours. That's fair.
1717
01:43:54,104 --> 01:43:55,105
[Dean] Two days?
1718
01:43:55,188 --> 01:43:57,399
How many people could
Harvey and his team talk to
1719
01:43:57,482 --> 01:43:58,650
in that amount of time?
1720
01:44:00,318 --> 01:44:01,319
David?
1721
01:44:02,237 --> 01:44:03,696
I'd go with Rebecca.
1722
01:44:03,780 --> 01:44:06,157
We want to be irreproachable
from the legal side.
1723
01:44:06,241 --> 01:44:07,826
[Dean] Good. Let's call Lanny.
1724
01:44:07,909 --> 01:44:10,620
We'll ask to speak to Harvey
and his team at one o'clock tomorrow.
1725
01:44:10,703 --> 01:44:11,871
We'll tell them what we have
1726
01:44:12,455 --> 01:44:16,334
and give him, uh,
two days to respond or refute.
1727
01:44:26,886 --> 01:44:29,180
It's midnight. Go home.
1728
01:44:29,264 --> 01:44:30,640
- We will.
- Good night.
1729
01:44:30,723 --> 01:44:32,559
[Typing]
1730
01:44:49,868 --> 01:44:52,620
If just one of the women
would have gone on the record...
1731
01:44:53,121 --> 01:44:54,747
Why is he taking the tunnel?
1732
01:44:56,249 --> 01:44:58,710
We just needed one woman.
1733
01:44:58,793 --> 01:45:00,503
Jodi. Stop it.
1734
01:45:01,171 --> 01:45:02,172
Let it go.
1735
01:45:09,053 --> 01:45:11,973
Maybe if we had been able to
get them all into a room together.
1736
01:45:13,683 --> 01:45:15,518
A room would make no difference.
1737
01:45:16,853 --> 01:45:19,314
They don't wanna go on the record
by themselves.
1738
01:45:21,524 --> 01:45:23,067
Would you want to?
1739
01:45:33,369 --> 01:45:35,455
[Sighs]
1740
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:42,921
[Whispers] Hi.
1741
01:45:45,798 --> 01:45:46,883
Yeah.
1742
01:45:50,261 --> 01:45:52,931
Shh, shh, shh, shh...
1743
01:45:53,014 --> 01:45:55,683
- [Cooing]
- Shh, shh, shh, shh...
1744
01:46:02,524 --> 01:46:04,442
It's been two fucking hours.
1745
01:46:05,944 --> 01:46:06,945
It's a tactic,
1746
01:46:07,570 --> 01:46:10,031
but I have things to do.
1747
01:46:14,869 --> 01:46:16,663
[Phone ringing]
1748
01:46:22,335 --> 01:46:23,336
Hello?
1749
01:46:23,419 --> 01:46:27,632
[Secretary] Dean? I have Harvey weinstein
and his lawyer, Charles harder, for you.
1750
01:46:28,424 --> 01:46:29,717
Okay, let's go, team.
1751
01:46:31,094 --> 01:46:32,887
- You ready?
- We're ready.
1752
01:46:34,472 --> 01:46:35,515
Put them through.
1753
01:46:39,727 --> 01:46:41,145
Harvey?
1754
01:46:41,229 --> 01:46:42,522
Charles?
1755
01:46:42,605 --> 01:46:43,606
[Charles] Dean.
1756
01:46:44,482 --> 01:46:46,109
How do you wanna do this,
Harvey?
1757
01:46:46,776 --> 01:46:48,653
[Harvey] /don't wanna do this,
is what/ want
1758
01:46:48,736 --> 01:46:51,155
are they there? The reporters?
1759
01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:52,532
We're all here.
1760
01:46:53,116 --> 01:46:54,492
[Harvey] Who have you talked to?
1761
01:46:55,827 --> 01:46:58,538
We've sent you
who we're covering, Harvey.
1762
01:46:58,621 --> 01:47:00,290
Who have you talked to?
1763
01:47:00,373 --> 01:47:02,292
[Chafienng]
1764
01:47:04,752 --> 01:47:05,896
[Megan] Harvey, we need some...
1765
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,523
[Harvey]
Are you talking to Gwyneth Paltrow?
1766
01:47:07,547 --> 01:47:10,216
[Dean] Gwyneth's not in the story, Harvey.
1767
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:14,137
Why don't you tell me who's on the record
and let me respond to that?
1768
01:47:14,220 --> 01:47:15,221
Yeah.
1769
01:47:16,848 --> 01:47:20,685
Harvey, how many settlements
have you paid out over the years?
1770
01:47:21,561 --> 01:47:23,605
We were told eight to 12.
1771
01:47:23,688 --> 01:47:26,316
That's you talking. That's not me talking.
1772
01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:30,320
If Lanny spoke, he spoke for himself
and not on behalf of his client
1773
01:47:34,782 --> 01:47:37,327
[Charles] How much time
are you giving us to respond?
1774
01:47:37,410 --> 01:47:38,828
We need two weeks.
1775
01:47:40,455 --> 01:47:41,998
You'll have two days.
1776
01:47:42,081 --> 01:47:43,750
[Charles] This goes back to the '905.
1777
01:47:43,833 --> 01:47:46,169
[Harvey] If you mess up
and don't tell the truth,
1778
01:47:46,252 --> 01:47:48,129
how do you look yourself in the eye?
1779
01:47:48,212 --> 01:47:50,757
It's been 90 minutes, Harvey,
and we're gonna wrap it up now.
1780
01:48:03,311 --> 01:48:05,563
[Breathing heavily]
1781
01:48:20,328 --> 01:48:22,830
[Dean] Harve y's just disputed
Lanny's eight to 72.
1782
01:48:22,914 --> 01:48:24,165
We have to have corroboration.
1783
01:48:24,248 --> 01:48:26,417
Eight to 12 settlements
has to be backed up.
1784
01:48:27,377 --> 01:48:29,229
- Who can you call at the company?
- [Cell phone ringing]
1785
01:48:29,253 --> 01:48:30,880
I'll ask David glasser.
1786
01:48:30,963 --> 01:48:32,173
It's Ashley.
1787
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:36,260
Pick up. Answer it.
1788
01:48:36,344 --> 01:48:37,387
I am. I am.
1789
01:48:40,223 --> 01:48:41,265
Ashley.
1790
01:48:42,642 --> 01:48:44,018
How are you?
1791
01:48:44,102 --> 01:48:46,521
I'm good yeah. I'm good
I just went for a run.
1792
01:48:47,313 --> 01:48:49,941
[Jodi] That's great. That's great.
Running is good.
1793
01:48:51,442 --> 01:48:52,652
I talked to my lawyer,
1794
01:48:52,735 --> 01:48:55,613
and I've been thinking
about what the right thing to do is.
1795
01:48:55,697 --> 01:48:57,198
Yeah. Of course.
1796
01:48:57,782 --> 01:48:58,783
Of course.
1797
01:49:01,994 --> 01:49:02,995
And?
1798
01:49:05,957 --> 01:49:08,751
I'm prepared to be a named source
in your investigation.
1799
01:49:10,211 --> 01:49:11,462
I have to...
1800
01:49:12,547 --> 01:49:14,048
As a woman and a Christian.
1801
01:49:20,179 --> 01:49:21,180
[Exhales]
1802
01:49:22,181 --> 01:49:23,182
[Ashley] Jodi?
1803
01:49:24,225 --> 01:49:25,226
Yes.
1804
01:49:26,018 --> 01:49:27,145
We 'i/ speak soon.
1805
01:49:29,188 --> 01:49:30,314
Yes.
1806
01:49:30,398 --> 01:49:31,816
Ashley, thank you.
1807
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:33,484
Thank you.
1808
01:49:35,820 --> 01:49:37,697
Ashley said yes. [Crying]
1809
01:49:38,281 --> 01:49:39,574
She said yes.
1810
01:49:42,118 --> 01:49:43,119
Ashley said yes.
1811
01:49:43,202 --> 01:49:45,913
She did, Jodi. She did. [Laughs]
1812
01:49:45,997 --> 01:49:49,375
Okay. Here we go
with the whole damn story.
1813
01:49:49,459 --> 01:49:52,170
[Rebecca] The lede is Ashley judd's
account of the peninsula suite.
1814
01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:54,255
Get a good judd quote
to end the section.
1815
01:49:54,338 --> 01:49:55,339
I'm on it.
1816
01:49:55,423 --> 01:49:57,633
[Dean] We publish as soon as
the piece is in good shape.
1817
01:49:57,717 --> 01:49:59,135
Let's go.
1818
01:50:33,127 --> 01:50:34,754
[Line ringing]
1819
01:50:37,089 --> 01:50:38,466
- Hello?
- Hi, David.
1820
01:50:38,549 --> 01:50:41,135
This is Megan twohey
from the New York 77mes.
1821
01:50:41,219 --> 01:50:44,259
I thought it was fair to give you,
as company president, a chance to comment.
1822
01:50:44,305 --> 01:50:45,745
Are you up to speed with everything?
1823
01:50:47,266 --> 01:50:48,434
I am.
1824
01:50:48,518 --> 01:50:51,020
The board had
an emergency conference call.
1825
01:50:51,729 --> 01:50:54,816
David, the eight to 12 settlements,
we have conflicting reports.
1826
01:50:54,899 --> 01:50:55,942
We don't need to name you,
1827
01:50:56,025 --> 01:50:58,820
but would you confirm for me
that eight to 72 is accurate?
1828
01:50:58,903 --> 01:51:00,029
How many?
1829
01:51:00,613 --> 01:51:03,366
Eight to 12.
Are we safe using that figure?
1830
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:07,537
Eight to 12.
1831
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:12,834
Uh, yeah. Yes. That's accurate.
1832
01:51:13,417 --> 01:51:15,294
I appreciate it, David. Thank you.
1833
01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:17,880
[Elevator bell dings]
1834
01:51:23,052 --> 01:51:24,387
[Sighs]
1835
01:51:38,276 --> 01:51:40,987
David glasser says yes
to eight to 12 settlements.
1836
01:51:43,364 --> 01:51:45,157
[Both laughing]
1837
01:51:45,241 --> 01:51:46,385
[Lanny] It's not enough time.
1838
01:51:46,409 --> 01:51:47,845
- It's not just me here.
- [Megan] Right. Yeah.
1839
01:51:47,869 --> 01:51:49,509
- You must know that right?
- [Megan] Yep.
1840
01:51:49,537 --> 01:51:50,997
I understand it's difficult.
1841
01:51:51,956 --> 01:51:53,583
What's happening?
Is Harvey on the phone?
1842
01:51:53,666 --> 01:51:56,335
It's Lanny. Weinstein is refusing
to give a response.
1843
01:51:56,419 --> 01:51:57,753
- [Megan] Okay.
- [Lanny] Right?
1844
01:51:57,837 --> 01:52:00,089
[Megan] Yeah.
No, Lanny, I hear you.
1845
01:52:00,172 --> 01:52:02,925
Listen, I can't pull a rabbit
out of a hat here.
1846
01:52:03,009 --> 01:52:04,510
We need more time.
1847
01:52:04,594 --> 01:52:05,634
Here's the thing, Megan...
1848
01:52:05,678 --> 01:52:06,846
Lanny, I'm sick of this shit.
1849
01:52:06,929 --> 01:52:09,009
You've got five different lawyers
reaching out to us.
1850
01:52:09,056 --> 01:52:11,058
We're not talking
to five different lawyers.
1851
01:52:11,142 --> 01:52:14,604
Get your people in line
and get back to us with your response.
1852
01:52:21,819 --> 01:52:23,696
This is not a response. This is a novel.
1853
01:52:23,779 --> 01:52:26,657
They call the women liars
and the journalism false.
1854
01:52:26,741 --> 01:52:28,701
It's legalistic bullying.
1855
01:52:28,784 --> 01:52:31,370
I sent back three paragraphs
to counter their 18 pages.
1856
01:52:31,454 --> 01:52:32,830
I've asked for their data.
1857
01:52:32,914 --> 01:52:35,541
- And I invite them to court.
- Let's see how long
1858
01:52:35,625 --> 01:52:37,668
- before they get back to us.
- [Cell phone buzzes]
1859
01:52:39,503 --> 01:52:40,671
Waiting time's up.
1860
01:52:40,755 --> 01:52:42,798
Weinstein wants to meet.
He's on his way here.
1861
01:52:43,382 --> 01:52:44,383
Do we let him in?
1862
01:52:47,678 --> 01:52:48,679
Let him in.
1863
01:52:49,472 --> 01:52:50,473
I've got this.
1864
01:53:01,192 --> 01:53:02,443
-Hi, Lisa.
1865
01:53:02,526 --> 01:53:03,986
- Is this everyone?
- Yep.
1866
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:05,363
[Megan] Okay, follow me.
1867
01:53:09,784 --> 01:53:12,137
- That's what you're gonna do.
- Only five. Come on. We've got folders.
1868
01:53:12,161 --> 01:53:13,746
We have the folders.
We've got evidence.
1869
01:53:13,829 --> 01:53:15,581
You're a good writer, Megan.
1870
01:53:15,665 --> 01:53:18,668
[Harvey] Are you really willing to stake
your reputation on this story?
1871
01:53:18,751 --> 01:53:22,046
- She's smiling. Everybody looks happy.
- Would you smile if this happened to you?
1872
01:53:22,129 --> 01:53:24,715
None of these women
are credible witnesses.
1873
01:53:24,799 --> 01:53:26,050
How's this one?
1874
01:53:26,133 --> 01:53:27,718
[Harvey] She's a nut.
1875
01:53:27,802 --> 01:53:29,428
She's a shakedown artist.
1876
01:53:29,512 --> 01:53:31,263
[Chafienng]
1877
01:53:59,834 --> 01:54:01,377
[Jodi] Is it there? Is it online?
1878
01:54:01,460 --> 01:54:03,462
Yes. They have it too.
1879
01:54:03,546 --> 01:54:04,588
So it's in both.
1880
01:54:06,841 --> 01:54:07,842
What happened?
1881
01:54:08,968 --> 01:54:10,594
What you'd expect.
1882
01:54:10,678 --> 01:54:12,596
Trying to discredit the actresses.
1883
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:13,681
What's wrong?
1884
01:54:14,682 --> 01:54:17,935
Harvey and his team have spoken to
variety and Hollywood reporter
1885
01:54:18,561 --> 01:54:20,646
- what?
- About us and the story.
1886
01:54:20,730 --> 01:54:23,607
He claims to be surprised by it.
1887
01:54:24,358 --> 01:54:25,735
This is bad.
1888
01:54:27,028 --> 01:54:30,114
You have to write fast.
We've just lost any privacy.
1889
01:54:31,741 --> 01:54:33,367
Let me see the lede.
1890
01:54:33,451 --> 01:54:34,785
[Typing]
1891
01:54:41,250 --> 01:54:43,836
[Jodi] All I think is
we have to lead with this.
1892
01:54:43,919 --> 01:54:45,713
That has to be
at the top of the paragraph.
1893
01:54:45,796 --> 01:54:48,557
- I think it's fine as two, don't you?
- [Rebecca] I think it's right.
1894
01:54:50,259 --> 01:54:52,887
Go home. I'll check this.
1895
01:54:55,097 --> 01:54:56,098
Really?
1896
01:55:15,201 --> 01:55:17,012
[News anchor]
And the y're really appealing to people.
1897
01:55:17,036 --> 01:55:19,371
If you know anything,
please come forward
1898
01:55:33,135 --> 01:55:35,322
[H arvey] Why shouldn't I just do
a fucking interview right now
1899
01:55:35,346 --> 01:55:38,516
with the Washington post
based on your lack of transparency?
1900
01:55:38,599 --> 01:55:41,477
You want some sort of list of
who we're talking to for this story,
1901
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,647
and if we don't disclose it to you,
you're threatening us?
1902
01:55:44,730 --> 01:55:46,982
If you're using Gwyneth Paltrow, tell me.
1903
01:55:47,066 --> 01:55:49,026
We're not using Gwyneth Paltrow.
1904
01:55:49,110 --> 01:55:51,195
Are you talking to Gwyneth Paltrow?
1905
01:55:52,905 --> 01:55:54,907
Hey, Harvey. This is Dean.
Here's the deal.
1906
01:55:54,990 --> 01:55:57,993
You need to give us your statement now.
I'm about to push the button.
1907
01:55:58,077 --> 01:56:00,496
Dean, let me tell you something
about intimidation.
1908
01:56:00,579 --> 01:56:02,039
I'll talk to the post. I will
1909
01:56:02,123 --> 01:56:03,666
call them. That's fine.
1910
01:56:03,749 --> 01:56:05,376
You can call the post
1911
01:56:05,459 --> 01:56:07,294
Harvey, I'm trying to be fair with you.
1912
01:56:07,378 --> 01:56:08,838
You are intimidating me, Dean.
1913
01:56:08,921 --> 01:56:11,674
No, I'm trying to get your statement.
Please, give it to us now.
1914
01:56:11,757 --> 01:56:13,759
We're about to publish.
1915
01:56:13,843 --> 01:56:16,095
- I want to give it to you.
- Thank you.
1916
01:56:16,178 --> 01:56:17,513
Is Gwyneth in it?
1917
01:56:17,596 --> 01:56:19,098
[Both] She's not in the story.
1918
01:56:19,181 --> 01:56:21,433
So here's what
we need to do, Harvey.
1919
01:56:22,268 --> 01:56:24,854
We wanna give you every word
that you wanna say.
1920
01:56:25,646 --> 01:56:26,772
So say it.
1921
01:56:27,439 --> 01:56:30,192
I also have a newspaper to put out.
I'm gonna walk out.
1922
01:56:30,276 --> 01:56:32,278
Talk to my reporters. Take care.
1923
01:56:33,362 --> 01:56:34,405
Good luck.
1924
01:56:34,488 --> 01:56:37,366
[Lisa] You have a reckless disregard
for the truth.
1925
01:56:37,449 --> 01:56:41,078
You want a hit story,
and these allegations are false.
1926
01:56:41,162 --> 01:56:43,455
We don't want a hit story, Lisa.
1927
01:56:43,539 --> 01:56:46,750
Harvey's going to take some time off
to focus on this issue.
1928
01:56:48,377 --> 01:56:49,545
Are you, Harvey?
1929
01:56:50,337 --> 01:56:52,673
[Harvey] Yes, I'm gonna take time ofif
1930
01:56:53,382 --> 01:56:54,884
from the company?
1931
01:56:55,551 --> 01:56:58,554
Yes. I wanna spend some time learning.
1932
01:56:58,637 --> 01:57:01,757
- [Lisa] Learning and listening to me.
- He's going to take a leave of absence.
1933
01:57:02,516 --> 01:57:04,101
Double space here.
1934
01:57:04,977 --> 01:57:06,979
- And here.
- [Cell phone buzzing]
1935
01:57:07,563 --> 01:57:08,647
It's Laura.
1936
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,444
Hi. Laura, how are you?
1937
01:57:14,195 --> 01:57:17,281
Yes, I'm okay
1938
01:57:17,364 --> 01:57:18,449
today's my surgery.
1939
01:57:19,074 --> 01:57:20,701
I'm about to go in.
1940
01:57:20,784 --> 01:57:25,039
Um, look, I never signed any contract.
1941
01:57:25,831 --> 01:57:27,374
I'm not gagged,
1942
01:57:28,083 --> 01:57:31,545
and I want to speak out
on behalf of the women who can't.
1943
01:57:33,505 --> 01:57:34,715
I have three daughters,
1944
01:57:34,798 --> 01:57:38,594
and I don't want them to
ever accept abuse or bullying as normal.
1945
01:57:40,054 --> 01:57:42,556
You can use anything I've said
1946
01:57:43,224 --> 01:57:44,433
I'll do it.
1947
01:57:45,601 --> 01:57:47,561
I'll go on the record.
1948
01:57:49,855 --> 01:57:50,981
Thank you, Laura.
1949
01:57:52,358 --> 01:57:53,359
Thank you.
1950
01:57:55,069 --> 01:57:56,695
I'll be thinking of you.
1951
01:58:01,533 --> 01:58:02,868
[Sighs]
1952
01:58:07,122 --> 01:58:08,916
- Oh, Laura.
- [Laughs]
1953
01:58:08,999 --> 01:58:11,043
Oh, beautiful, beautiful Laura.
1954
01:58:24,431 --> 01:58:25,891
[Nurse] Are you okay, Laura?
1955
01:58:25,975 --> 01:58:28,477
[Laughs] Yes. I'm fine.
1956
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:29,561
Thank you.
1957
01:58:31,313 --> 01:58:32,690
I really am.
1958
01:59:00,759 --> 01:59:02,261
[Chafienng]
1959
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:51,852
Their statements are in.
I'm pulling quotes.
1960
01:59:53,562 --> 01:59:54,563
Yep.
1961
01:59:59,276 --> 02:00:01,487
[So, do you... okay. You're so good.
Uaughs]
1962
02:00:20,839 --> 02:00:23,092
- Have you pulled the quotes?
- I'm doing it now.
1963
02:00:39,316 --> 02:00:40,734
It's ready to go.
1964
02:00:40,818 --> 02:00:43,946
Let's read it together one last time.
1965
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:19,481
Yeah.
1966
02:01:20,023 --> 02:01:21,066
One second.
1967
02:01:25,154 --> 02:01:26,280
Yeah.
1968
02:01:27,406 --> 02:01:28,407
Okay?
1969
02:01:30,409 --> 02:01:31,410
[Dean] Okay?
1970
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:39,293
[Mouse clicks]
1971
02:01:41,628 --> 02:01:42,963
[Mouse clicks]
1972
02:01:53,724 --> 02:01:55,267
[Mouse clicks]
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