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Yeah. 11 00:01:54,031 --> 00:01:56,409 Your volume's on, you'll be able to hear everything. 12 00:01:58,202 --> 00:02:00,204 [Chafienng] 13 00:02:11,924 --> 00:02:13,759 [Sobbing, breathing heavily] 14 00:03:15,946 --> 00:03:17,239 I really want to. 15 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:21,202 But, you know... 16 00:03:21,285 --> 00:03:22,286 You're scared. 17 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:25,039 Anyone would be. 18 00:03:27,249 --> 00:03:30,628 Do you really think speaking out might stop him? 19 00:03:31,337 --> 00:03:36,175 I think it's really important for voters to have this information 20 00:03:36,258 --> 00:03:39,053 as they determine whether he's fit to be president. 21 00:03:39,637 --> 00:03:41,680 What if he decides to sue? 22 00:03:42,848 --> 00:03:45,518 Would the New York times be willing to help me? 23 00:03:46,060 --> 00:03:49,480 News organizations can't provide legal support. 24 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:51,482 You'd be on your own. 25 00:03:55,611 --> 00:03:57,571 [Chafienng] 26 00:04:08,541 --> 00:04:10,543 [Chattering continues] 27 00:04:21,137 --> 00:04:23,931 [Line ringing] 28 00:04:26,016 --> 00:04:27,017 [Reporter] Hl; Rachel? 29 00:04:27,643 --> 00:04:30,646 And you're definitely going to write about Jessica Leeds? 30 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:34,233 Jessica is absolutely on board 100%. 31 00:04:35,526 --> 00:04:36,527 [Rachel] Okay. 32 00:04:37,695 --> 00:04:41,073 I'll do it. I'll go on the record and say what he did to me. 33 00:04:42,741 --> 00:04:45,411 You will? That's great, Rachel. 34 00:04:46,662 --> 00:04:47,830 Thank you. 35 00:04:52,918 --> 00:04:54,478 [Reporter on TV] .../'/7 New Hampshire, 36 00:04:54,545 --> 00:04:58,257 asking voters there to reelect the republican senator 37 00:04:58,340 --> 00:04:59,633 as a check and balance. 38 00:05:05,931 --> 00:05:07,850 [Chattering on TV] 39 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,022 - Violet, no. - [Crying] 40 00:05:13,105 --> 00:05:15,149 Baby, momma's gotta go to work. 41 00:05:15,232 --> 00:05:17,151 You're gonna stay with daddy, okay? 42 00:05:17,234 --> 00:05:18,736 Violet. Violet. 43 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:21,780 Mom's gonna go to work. Come on. Let's go see your animals. 44 00:05:21,864 --> 00:05:23,949 - Come on. - Talia, you're my hero. 45 00:05:24,033 --> 00:05:25,826 [Talia] Wanna show me your elephant? 46 00:05:30,581 --> 00:05:32,458 [Person chattering on podcast] 47 00:05:40,591 --> 00:05:43,761 [News reporter on TV] We didn't find any e vidence of evil intent. 48 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:45,679 You can't obstruct justice there. 49 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:47,431 [Reporter] Morning, Jodi. 50 00:05:48,641 --> 00:05:50,434 [Chafienng] 51 00:05:57,107 --> 00:06:00,045 [News anchor] They might not be as enthusiastic as they were four years ago, 52 00:06:00,069 --> 00:06:01,195 but we know where they are. 53 00:06:01,278 --> 00:06:02,958 We know where young people are. We know... 54 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:05,324 Okay, just give him a call. 55 00:06:07,201 --> 00:06:09,745 - Were you sick again? - [Reporter] Yeah. 56 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:11,997 It's meant to stop after the first trimester. 57 00:06:12,081 --> 00:06:14,583 - You should probably get some sleep. - Mmm. 58 00:06:16,001 --> 00:06:17,169 Mmm. 59 00:06:17,253 --> 00:06:19,046 I will as soon as I get a response. 60 00:06:19,922 --> 00:06:21,131 From trump's people? 61 00:06:21,215 --> 00:06:22,967 What happens if they don't respond? 62 00:06:23,050 --> 00:06:26,011 They will, but we can't publish until they do. 63 00:06:26,512 --> 00:06:28,430 [Speaking Hebrew] 64 00:06:36,355 --> 00:06:37,690 [Cell phone buzzes] 65 00:06:37,773 --> 00:06:39,775 - Hello? - [Trump] Is this Megan twohey? 66 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:42,570 Yes, Mr. Trump. 67 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:47,658 I do not know these women. They are lying. 68 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:51,328 And if I did something to them, why didn't they go to the police 7 69 00:06:51,412 --> 00:06:54,081 Jessica Leeds and Rachel crooks didn't ever say that they knew you, 70 00:06:54,164 --> 00:06:55,749 just that they were chance encounters. 71 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:58,085 The New York times has concocted these stories, 72 00:06:58,168 --> 00:07:00,254 and if you publish them, / will sue. 73 00:07:00,337 --> 00:07:02,631 What about the leaked access Hollywood tape? 74 00:07:02,715 --> 00:07:04,133 Do you do those things? 75 00:07:04,216 --> 00:07:06,427 I don't do it. 76 00:07:06,510 --> 00:07:08,971 I don't do it. It was locker-room talk. 77 00:07:09,513 --> 00:07:11,015 And, Mr. Trump, miss Utah, 78 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:13,183 she claimed you forcibly kissed her more than once 79 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:14,935 when you owned the miss america pageant. 80 00:07:15,019 --> 00:07:19,315 She's lying. You are disgusting. You are a disgusting human being. 81 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:22,276 - [Line clicks] - [Sighs] 82 00:07:25,195 --> 00:07:27,031 [CBS news anchor] Several women speaking out, 83 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:30,576 accusing Donald Trump of touching them inappropriately. 84 00:07:30,659 --> 00:07:33,037 Jessica Leeds and Rachel crooks, 85 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,292 telling the New York times they were both groped or kissed by trump without consent 86 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:40,711 [CNN news anchor] ...For a company located in trump tower, 87 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:43,422 claims the billionaire kissed her on the cheeks and the mouth. 88 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:47,051 [Gasps] Oh, my god. 89 00:07:49,762 --> 00:07:51,555 Fuck. Rachel, I'm so sorry. 90 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:54,808 [Rachel] / went on the record, you published, and this is what happened 91 00:07:55,392 --> 00:07:57,561 [Megan] Yeah, I'm so sorry. 92 00:07:57,645 --> 00:08:00,314 I was prepared, you know? But not for this. 93 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:02,066 An envelope full of shit? 94 00:08:02,650 --> 00:08:04,151 Was there anything written on it? 95 00:08:04,234 --> 00:08:05,778 No. What can I do 7 96 00:08:05,861 --> 00:08:07,781 - I can't even leave the house. - Oh, yeah, fuck. 97 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:10,658 Well, you need to write everything down. 98 00:08:10,741 --> 00:08:15,788 Tape any conversations or voice mails. You need to document any threats you get... 99 00:08:15,871 --> 00:08:17,956 - Megan twohey? - Yeah. That's us. 100 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,200 [Megan] I can't even imagine. 101 00:08:19,249 --> 00:08:21,335 Shit. Rachel, I'm sorry. I have to go. 102 00:08:21,418 --> 00:08:23,420 I'll call you back. I promise. 103 00:08:24,129 --> 00:08:26,965 - [Sighs] - [Cell phone ringing] 104 00:08:27,049 --> 00:08:28,050 Rachel? 105 00:08:28,133 --> 00:08:30,886 [Journalist] I'm calling from bill 0 'Reilly at fox news. 106 00:08:30,969 --> 00:08:32,388 Are you a feminist? 107 00:08:32,471 --> 00:08:33,806 [Sighs] 108 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:37,393 Are you fucking kidding me? 109 00:08:38,268 --> 00:08:40,854 [Chuckles] I'm sorry. Hi. Hi. 110 00:08:40,938 --> 00:08:43,899 - The final push till election day. - [Cell phone chimes] 111 00:08:43,982 --> 00:08:46,252 And as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump make their closing arguments... 112 00:08:46,276 --> 00:08:49,446 - Bill O'Reilly's talking about you. - The race has tightened even more. 113 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:51,156 [Typing] 114 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:55,845 [O'Reilly] The factor asked miss twohe y to appear this evening. 115 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:58,539 She declined, no surprise. This is a tough forum. 116 00:08:58,622 --> 00:09:00,165 She and Mr. Barbara did appear 117 00:09:00,249 --> 00:09:02,042 - on other cable outlets... - [Megan sighs] 118 00:09:02,126 --> 00:09:03,752 Friendly to liberal points of view. 119 00:09:03,836 --> 00:09:07,297 We asked miss twohe y if she herself is a feminist, 120 00:09:07,381 --> 00:09:09,883 - both on the phone and in writing. - [Sighs] 121 00:09:09,967 --> 00:09:11,969 She declined to answer in both cases. 122 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:13,429 I'm gonna go get some noodles. 123 00:09:13,512 --> 00:09:15,824 [O'Reilly] Here's what she said about the article yesterday. 124 00:09:15,848 --> 00:09:19,184 [Megan] You know, our story is the experience of man y women, 125 00:09:19,268 --> 00:09:20,477 going back over the years. 126 00:09:30,654 --> 00:09:32,656 [Cell phone ringing] 127 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:35,242 Hello? 128 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:39,955 [Intimidator] I am going to rape you and murder you, 129 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:41,999 and dump your body in the Hudson river. 130 00:09:43,125 --> 00:09:44,501 [Line clicks] 131 00:09:48,964 --> 00:09:51,725 [CNN news anchor 1] This n/ght is turning out to be a real nail-biter. 132 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:53,469 [CNN news anchor 2] CNN can report 133 00:09:53,552 --> 00:09:57,973 that Hillary Clinton has called Donald Trump to concede the race. 134 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,519 [CNN news anchor 1] CNN projects Donald Trump wins the presidency. 135 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:14,507 [Reporter] Breaking news on bill O'Reilly. Let's go to Julia boorstin. Julia. 136 00:10:14,531 --> 00:10:17,659 [Julia] That's rr'ght. Fox has just announced that b/ll O'Reilly is out, 137 00:10:17,743 --> 00:10:20,704 saying, quote, '94 ftera thorough and careful re view of the allegations, 138 00:10:20,788 --> 00:10:22,498 the company and bill c Reilly ha ve agreed 139 00:10:22,581 --> 00:10:25,584 that b/ll c 'Reilly will not be returning to the fox news channel. ” 140 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:31,465 Of course, this follows the boycott of over 50 advertisers of the O'Reilly factor 141 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:35,511 aftera New York times report of sexual harassment allegations 142 00:10:35,594 --> 00:10:40,140 and the report that fox and O'Reilly together spent about $ 73 million 143 00:10:40,224 --> 00:10:43,560 to settle those allegations from five difi'erent women. 144 00:10:43,644 --> 00:10:44,686 So, the story... 145 00:10:44,770 --> 00:10:46,647 - Job well done, Emily. - Thanks, Dean. 146 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:48,565 And you, Mike. Excellent reporting. 147 00:10:48,649 --> 00:10:50,835 [J ulia]...Not be returning to his top-rated cable show 148 00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:53,612 are we talking solely corporate misuse of power? 149 00:10:53,695 --> 00:10:55,614 No. We're talking all workplaces 150 00:10:55,697 --> 00:10:57,699 where sexual harassment might happen. 151 00:10:57,783 --> 00:10:59,827 Also, let's look for the enablers. 152 00:10:59,910 --> 00:11:02,996 Fox kept O'Reilly on for quite some time after our story broke. 153 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,456 And for decades before that. 154 00:11:04,540 --> 00:11:07,376 The network only ousted him when the advertisers jumped ship. 155 00:11:07,459 --> 00:11:09,795 Let's interrogate the whole system. 156 00:11:09,878 --> 00:11:13,966 Why is sexual harassment so pervasive and so hard to address? 157 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:16,051 [Chafienng] 158 00:11:16,969 --> 00:11:18,387 Hey, do you guys have a minute? 159 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:19,471 Sure. 160 00:11:21,807 --> 00:11:24,977 So, I spoke to shaunna Thomas, 161 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:27,354 the head of ultraviolet, a feminist group. 162 00:11:27,437 --> 00:11:30,774 She said the wrongdoing in Hollywood is ovennhelming. 163 00:11:30,858 --> 00:11:32,901 She's in touch with an actress, Rose mcgowan, 164 00:11:32,985 --> 00:11:35,612 who has tweeted about being raped by a producer. 165 00:11:35,696 --> 00:11:38,031 Thomas says it's Harvey weinstein. 166 00:11:38,115 --> 00:11:40,450 And that mcgowan is now working on a book about it. 167 00:11:40,534 --> 00:11:42,703 Wasn't he charged with something a couple years ago? 168 00:11:42,786 --> 00:11:43,787 Yeah. Um... 169 00:11:44,913 --> 00:11:47,958 Ambra battilana Gutierrez, an Italian model. 170 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:51,003 She claimed weinstein groped her in a business meeting. 171 00:11:51,086 --> 00:11:54,006 The NYPD investigated it, but he was never charged. 172 00:11:54,089 --> 00:11:55,674 Talk to Rose mcgowan. 173 00:11:55,757 --> 00:11:58,051 Try to talk to other actresses he's worked with. 174 00:11:58,135 --> 00:12:01,013 Yeah, and I'll try to reach ex-employees. 175 00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:05,642 Hi. My name is Jodi kantor. 176 00:12:05,726 --> 00:12:07,895 I'm an in vest/gative repon'er for the New York times. 177 00:12:07,978 --> 00:12:10,731 We 're looking into sexual harassment in the workplace. 178 00:12:10,814 --> 00:12:12,524 Ibelie ve you were an employee at miramax 179 00:12:12,608 --> 00:12:14,943 and worked for Harvey weinstein in the £905. 180 00:12:15,027 --> 00:12:16,862 [Former assistant] Are you recording this? 181 00:12:16,945 --> 00:12:17,946 No, absolutely not. 182 00:12:18,030 --> 00:12:20,908 I won't quote from this conversation without your permission. 183 00:12:20,991 --> 00:12:23,785 But in your time as an assistant, were you aware of any instances 184 00:12:23,869 --> 00:12:28,332 in which Harvey weinstein treated women inappropriately or crossed a line? 185 00:12:28,415 --> 00:12:30,709 [Chuckles] Did Harvey cross a line? 186 00:12:30,792 --> 00:12:32,127 - [Scoffs] - [Line clicks] 187 00:12:33,962 --> 00:12:35,881 Would you like to hear her heartbeat? 188 00:12:35,964 --> 00:12:37,257 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 189 00:12:38,300 --> 00:12:40,552 [Heartbeat thumping] 190 00:12:41,762 --> 00:12:44,139 [Jodi] Mary, thanks so much for calling me back 191 00:12:44,222 --> 00:12:45,933 [Mary] Who have you talked to? 192 00:12:46,016 --> 00:12:49,853 I can't tell you names, just as I would never divulge yours, 193 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:52,356 but if you wanted to share anything that you know, 194 00:12:52,439 --> 00:12:54,107 that would be so helpful. 195 00:12:54,191 --> 00:12:57,152 I don't think people will want to talk. 196 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:58,236 Sony. 197 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,655 [Line clicks] 198 00:13:06,328 --> 00:13:07,579 [Laughs] 199 00:13:07,663 --> 00:13:10,832 [Jodi] Ms. Godreche, thank you so much for responding. 200 00:13:10,916 --> 00:13:12,018 [God reche] Before you continue, 201 00:13:12,042 --> 00:13:14,878 I've talked about weinstein r'n the past, but in private. 202 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:17,798 My immigration lawyer does not want me to be involved. 203 00:13:17,881 --> 00:13:19,257 [Line clicks] 204 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:22,469 Involved in what? 205 00:13:23,553 --> 00:13:25,138 [Line ringing] 206 00:13:26,181 --> 00:13:28,517 - Hello? - Oh, hi, Rose. 207 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:32,646 Um, this is Jodi kantor from the New York 77mes. 208 00:13:32,729 --> 00:13:34,272 I wrote you an email. 209 00:13:34,773 --> 00:13:38,193 Shaunna Thomas suggested you might be willing to have a conversation with me 210 00:13:38,276 --> 00:13:41,446 about Hollywood, and specifically Harvey weinstein. 211 00:13:41,530 --> 00:13:42,864 Are you writing about him? 212 00:13:42,948 --> 00:13:44,157 Yes, I am. 213 00:13:44,241 --> 00:13:47,369 Look, I don't feel that inclined to talk to you about r't. 214 00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:48,829 [Jodi] Could I ask why not? 215 00:13:48,912 --> 00:13:52,749 I've been treated quite shabbily by your paper numerous times, 216 00:13:52,833 --> 00:13:56,294 and I believe the root of it is sexism. 217 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:59,172 I'm sorry that was your experience. 218 00:13:59,256 --> 00:14:02,426 I've talked in the past, and nothing happened 219 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:04,761 I spoke at a political meeting recently, 220 00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:08,223 and the New York times put it in the style section. 221 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:12,227 It does damage to shout, and no one listens. 222 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:15,522 I'm investigating systemic sexism in Hollywood. 223 00:14:15,605 --> 00:14:17,649 How many pages have you got? 224 00:14:19,026 --> 00:14:22,696 I put myself on the lr'ne before, and it made no difference. 225 00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:25,907 I've written about the workplace at Amazon, Starbucks, 226 00:14:25,991 --> 00:14:29,828 and Harvard business school, and change did happen. 227 00:14:29,911 --> 00:14:33,832 They reformed their policies as a direct result of the times articles. 228 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:36,334 But if you don't wanna talk, I understand. 229 00:14:36,918 --> 00:14:38,503 And good luck with your book. 230 00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:40,505 Thank you. Goodbye. 231 00:14:42,924 --> 00:14:44,301 [Jodi's husband] I spoke to dad. 232 00:14:46,011 --> 00:14:47,304 He sounded worse. 233 00:14:49,431 --> 00:14:51,266 I gotta go see him soon. 234 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:55,145 Could you go for a long weekend? You could take the girls. 235 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:57,314 I could take Talia, but not both of them. 236 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:05,614 I'm having an affair... 237 00:15:07,074 --> 00:15:09,284 With a very famous actress. 238 00:15:10,952 --> 00:15:12,370 You want her number? 239 00:15:15,791 --> 00:15:17,292 [Chuckles] 240 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:20,420 - She's so hot. - [Laughs] 241 00:15:21,505 --> 00:15:23,048 This looks beautiful. 242 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:24,966 You'd really like her. 243 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:26,426 [Laughs] 244 00:15:26,510 --> 00:15:30,764 ”/ am a nasty woman." 245 00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:33,433 [Crowd cheers] 246 00:15:33,517 --> 00:15:36,770 "I'm not as nasty as using little girls like poke'mon 247 00:15:36,853 --> 00:15:38,855 before their bodies have even developed" 248 00:15:38,939 --> 00:15:41,191 - is that Ashley judd? - Yeah. 249 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,279 She wrote about being sexually harassed by a producer in the '903. 250 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:50,075 She doesn't name him, but she describes him as 251 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:54,246 "one of our industry's most famous admired/reviled bosses." 252 00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:57,165 [Ashley] ”homophobia, sexual assault, 253 00:15:57,249 --> 00:16:00,127 transphobia, white supremacy, 254 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:03,296 -misogyny, /gnorance, white priv/lege. ” -[Violet crying] 255 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,173 - I'll go? - I'll get her. 256 00:16:05,257 --> 00:16:06,967 - [Talia] Mom! - [Crying continues] 257 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:08,385 [Chuckles] 258 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:09,970 - We'll both go. - Yeah. 259 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,683 I don't know if I can do this. [Cries] 260 00:16:16,935 --> 00:16:18,478 [Megan's husband] You need to rest. 261 00:16:19,646 --> 00:16:21,731 Can you try to sleep, maybe? 262 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:24,985 I don't wanna be... 263 00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:30,991 I just have this constant sense of dread. [Cries] 264 00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:32,534 You're tired. 265 00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:34,995 Your body's exhausted. 266 00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:36,079 [Megan exhales] 267 00:16:37,205 --> 00:16:39,291 I think I would know if it was just that. 268 00:16:44,462 --> 00:16:45,672 [Cell phone buzzing] 269 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:46,756 Mom. 270 00:16:50,093 --> 00:16:51,595 [Buzzing continues] 271 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:56,266 Hello? 272 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,060 It's Rose. Mcgowan. 273 00:16:59,144 --> 00:17:00,645 Rose, hi. 274 00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:03,523 It's not just h/m you should be after. 275 00:17:03,607 --> 00:17:06,484 There is an entire machine. A supply chain. 276 00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:09,029 Of abusers in Hollywood? 277 00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:10,113 Right. 278 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:14,993 They're worldwide, wherever mo vies are being made or sold 279 00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:18,538 each studio does the victim-shaming and payouts. 280 00:17:19,122 --> 00:17:22,083 If white men could have a playground this would be r't. 281 00:17:25,086 --> 00:17:26,504 Do people know about it? 282 00:17:27,047 --> 00:17:28,715 [Chuckles] Of course. 283 00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:31,218 I told a lot of people what happened to me. 284 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:34,596 At the Sundance film festival? 285 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:35,847 I was 23. 286 00:17:35,931 --> 00:17:38,767 I was doing all these brilliant independent films. 287 00:17:38,850 --> 00:17:41,353 I was just incredibly hopeful. 288 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:42,437 [Door opens] 289 00:17:43,104 --> 00:17:45,398 - Hi. - And then I went to that hotel room. 290 00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:47,567 [Door closes] 291 00:17:47,651 --> 00:17:49,027 [Jodi's husband] Talia? 292 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:50,403 I'm here. 293 00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:55,408 [Rose] He was on a sofa, talking loudly on his phone. 294 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:56,826 I waited 295 00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:59,120 and then we talked about projects, 296 00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:03,875 and he suddenly sa/d, ”I have a jacuzzi in my room." 297 00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:09,506 I didn't know what the answer to that was, so I just kept talking. 298 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:14,344 We wrapped up, and he said he'd walk me out. 299 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,555 And / thought, ”well, that went well.” 300 00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:19,641 It was my first big meeting. 301 00:18:20,308 --> 00:18:22,269 He walked behind me down a hallway, 302 00:18:22,978 --> 00:18:26,022 and then he said, ”this is the jacuzzi room." 303 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:30,860 And / looked in, and he pushed me inside. 304 00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:32,862 He str/pped me. 305 00:18:34,531 --> 00:18:36,741 And he was suddenly naked 306 00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:40,453 I left my body in some way. 307 00:18:41,913 --> 00:18:43,415 And he raped me. 308 00:18:44,916 --> 00:18:47,627 I went into survival mode to get out, 309 00:18:47,711 --> 00:18:49,671 and I faked an orgasm. 310 00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,007 He told me to get dressed 311 00:18:52,841 --> 00:18:56,553 he left me messages telling me I was his new special friend 312 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:59,597 and that he'd done a lot for other actresses. 313 00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:01,599 Did you report it? 314 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:05,478 Can you see the law taking my side on that? 315 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:10,400 But you told other people? 316 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:13,611 I told a lot of people, and nobody did a thing. 317 00:19:14,321 --> 00:19:15,322 Nothing. 318 00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:20,577 Can I contact the people you told? 319 00:19:21,286 --> 00:19:23,413 You told me this was private. 320 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:28,168 He '/I have spies watching you now, as we speak 321 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,295 I hope you know that. 322 00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:47,187 [Sighs] 323 00:19:52,067 --> 00:19:53,651 - [Cell phone buzzing] - [Baby cooing] 324 00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:55,403 Shh, shh, shh... 325 00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:58,073 [Whispers] Hello? 326 00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:00,033 Hey, Megan, this is jodr'kantor. 327 00:20:00,116 --> 00:20:01,201 Is this a bad time? 328 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:04,662 Uh... um, no. It's fine. 329 00:20:04,746 --> 00:20:06,956 - [Baby cooing] - Oh, / hear her. 330 00:20:07,665 --> 00:20:08,875 How's it all going? 331 00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:11,669 [Megan] Yeah, it's, um... 332 00:20:11,753 --> 00:20:13,630 I just got her down. 333 00:20:15,924 --> 00:20:17,759 It's the toughest part, I think. 334 00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:19,761 Is it? 335 00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:21,388 I found it to be so. 336 00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:25,475 With my first daughter, I had postpartum depression. 337 00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:30,772 Everyone's so excited, and it's like... 338 00:20:32,273 --> 00:20:33,525 You're just not there. 339 00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:36,236 Right. 340 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:40,615 So, I got your email. 341 00:20:41,408 --> 00:20:42,492 How's it all going? 342 00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:44,536 Yeah... [chuckles] 343 00:20:45,161 --> 00:20:48,498 I feel like there are a lot of women who have... 344 00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:52,335 Been through something with him. 345 00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:56,589 But they find it hard to talk. 346 00:20:57,215 --> 00:21:00,552 And those who do talk to me don't want to go on the record 347 00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:02,971 in your pre vr'ous stories, 348 00:21:04,139 --> 00:21:07,434 how did you persuade women to tell you what had happened to them? 349 00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:10,937 Yeah, so... 350 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:13,773 It's difficult. 351 00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:15,275 They're terrified. 352 00:21:16,234 --> 00:21:17,569 A case I made was, 353 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:22,198 "you know, I can't change what happened to you in the past, 354 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:26,411 but together, we may be able to use your experience 355 00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,204 to help protect other people." 356 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:31,541 The truth, basically 357 00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:33,376 but yeah. 358 00:21:33,877 --> 00:21:37,797 It's hard to ask women to talk. 359 00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,050 [Chafienng] 360 00:21:55,398 --> 00:22:00,028 [Ashley] Then he asked me to meet him, uh, really early. 361 00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:03,031 And I had been up all night filming, and I was tired. 362 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:07,535 I went over to the peninsula hotel, and at reception, I asked, 363 00:22:07,619 --> 00:22:10,705 "is Mr. Weinstein in the Belvedere restaurant or is he on the patio?" 364 00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:13,958 And they said, "go to his room." 365 00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:20,006 And / went upstairs, and Harvey was in his bathrobe. 366 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:23,635 And he asked if he could give me a massage. 367 00:22:24,427 --> 00:22:26,429 ”No, ” / said 368 00:22:27,555 --> 00:22:31,601 and then, um, he asked me to help him pick out his clothes for the day. 369 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,939 He, you know, started asking for all these things, 370 00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:39,025 increasingly more sexual, getting closer and closer. 371 00:22:39,108 --> 00:22:42,153 And I just said no so many difi'erent times, 372 00:22:42,237 --> 00:22:44,072 and in so many difi'erent ways. 373 00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:49,410 And then he finally, um, asked me to watch him take a shower. 374 00:22:50,286 --> 00:22:52,455 And / said ”harve y, 375 00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:55,959 when / win an a cadem y a ward in a miramax mo vie, 376 00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:58,962 I will give you a blow job. ” 377 00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:00,922 And / got out of there fast 378 00:23:01,589 --> 00:23:02,924 what did you do? 379 00:23:03,007 --> 00:23:05,635 I told my dad, I told my agent, 380 00:23:05,718 --> 00:23:08,304 I told the people with whom I was filming that night, 381 00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:09,973 and Harvey punished me. 382 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,308 I mean, he blackballed my career 383 00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:14,561 because lhad the wherewithal to refuse him. 384 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,229 How do you know that? 385 00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:19,524 I would be standing with other actresses, and he would blank me. 386 00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:23,027 There were roles for which / was up that I mysteriously did not get, 387 00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,530 and I know today that it was Harvey making a phone call. 388 00:23:25,613 --> 00:23:29,784 You know, I did an article about it, and nobody did anything. 389 00:23:29,867 --> 00:23:32,912 You didn't identify him, but did industry people know 390 00:23:32,996 --> 00:23:34,747 who you were talking about in your article? 391 00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:36,249 Absolutely. 392 00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:38,960 And the abuse came raining down on me, not on him. 393 00:23:39,544 --> 00:23:42,297 You know at the women's march when I did the "nasty woman" poem? 394 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:44,591 I lost a huge advertising gig 395 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:48,511 because a small group of people complained that I was quoting the president. 396 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,972 He used that language and got elected. 397 00:23:51,055 --> 00:23:53,933 I quoted him, and I got fired. 398 00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:57,020 It is decades later, and it's still the same sexism. 399 00:23:57,103 --> 00:24:00,607 And, Jodi, I would make the same choices all over again, 400 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:02,317 but I also would like to work. 401 00:24:06,362 --> 00:24:08,823 [Jodi] Lisa bloom, the lawyer, she wrote to me. 402 00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:10,533 - Gloria allred's daughter? - Yeah. 403 00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:13,911 - Do you know her? - No, but I assume she wants to help. 404 00:24:13,995 --> 00:24:15,538 I fonnarded the email to Emily. 405 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,582 [Chafienng] 406 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,756 Jodi? Lisa bloom. 407 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:26,924 "Big announcement, 408 00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:31,596 my book suspicion nation is being produced by Harvey weinstein and Jay-Z." 409 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:33,306 Weinstein is producing her book? 410 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:39,312 Lisa bloom, daughter of feminist icon, is working with Harvey weinstein. 411 00:24:39,395 --> 00:24:41,064 But why would she do that? 412 00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:43,232 How much do you get paid for a miniseries? 413 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:45,985 He's got to be behind Lisa reaching out to you. 414 00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:48,321 So weinstein knows what we're doing. 415 00:24:56,579 --> 00:24:57,580 Sorry. 416 00:25:01,376 --> 00:25:03,461 [Matt] Do you wanna keep going with trump? 417 00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:07,131 [Rebecca] Or you could join Jodi and look into Harvey weinstein? 418 00:25:07,215 --> 00:25:09,008 [Chuckles] 419 00:25:10,551 --> 00:25:12,970 I worry about whether it makes a difference. 420 00:25:14,097 --> 00:25:17,517 These women spoke out against trump, and he still became president. 421 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,144 But in the wake of O'Reilly, there's possibility. 422 00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:21,396 [Cell phone buzzing] 423 00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:22,480 Sorry. 424 00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:25,525 Craig. I've been trying to reach you. 425 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:27,985 You've gotta show up. 426 00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:30,530 How's your daughter? 427 00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:32,115 [Chuckles] She's great. 428 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:35,785 Oh, s... um... 429 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:38,579 Sorry. I, um... 430 00:25:38,663 --> 00:25:40,915 Thank you for the gift you... 431 00:25:43,292 --> 00:25:44,794 Is anything bothering you? 432 00:25:45,503 --> 00:25:47,714 Besides no sleep and diapers everywhere. 433 00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:50,967 Are you okay? 434 00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:55,430 I've found it quite... 435 00:25:56,848 --> 00:25:57,849 Difficult. 436 00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:00,309 I'm sorry. 437 00:26:01,644 --> 00:26:02,770 Will working help? 438 00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:04,647 Yeah. Yeah. 439 00:26:05,523 --> 00:26:07,775 Absolutely. It's better now. 440 00:26:17,452 --> 00:26:19,120 - [Journalist] Megan. - Hey. 441 00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:35,636 [Megan] Are they all famous? 442 00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:38,514 [Jodi] Most of them, yes. 443 00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:43,686 I guess my question is just, like, is this the best use of our time? 444 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,690 Like, as opposed to other people we could potentially be covering. 445 00:26:48,399 --> 00:26:51,986 People who can't speak out. Actresses already have a voice. 446 00:26:52,069 --> 00:26:55,490 But they could also fear being punished by the film industry for using it. 447 00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:57,241 Sure... 448 00:26:58,034 --> 00:27:01,954 But what is it exactly that we're looking at here? 449 00:27:02,038 --> 00:27:04,749 We're looking at extreme sexual harassment in the workplace. 450 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:08,920 These young women walked into what they all had reason to believe 451 00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:12,173 were "business meetings" with a producer, an employer. 452 00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:13,466 They were hopeful. 453 00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:17,178 They were expecting a serious conversation about their work or a possible project. 454 00:27:17,261 --> 00:27:20,681 Instead, they say he met them with threats and sexual demands. 455 00:27:21,265 --> 00:27:23,059 They claim assault and rape. 456 00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:28,022 If that can happen to Hollywood actresses, who else is it happening to? 457 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,526 Do you think his employees were targeted too? 458 00:27:32,109 --> 00:27:33,110 I do. 459 00:27:36,489 --> 00:27:40,743 I could search for any police complaints against miramax? 460 00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:42,411 Or court records? 461 00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:45,581 Should I? 462 00:27:46,749 --> 00:27:47,834 Yes. 463 00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:52,463 [Megan] / found records of a complaint against miramax from 2007, 464 00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:55,883 but the report was closed out the same day it was made. 465 00:27:55,967 --> 00:27:58,636 It says, ”complainant elected court action, ” 466 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:02,056 but then no court documents exist, which seems inconsistent. 467 00:28:02,139 --> 00:28:04,433 Do you have any more information on that? 468 00:28:05,059 --> 00:28:07,687 [Government official] No. Those records would have been destroyed 469 00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:10,064 really? Why? 470 00:28:10,147 --> 00:28:11,732 It's agency policy. 471 00:28:11,816 --> 00:28:13,985 All records are destroyed after three years. 472 00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:16,112 Why is that? 473 00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:19,657 As I said it's policy. 474 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:25,246 So could you please tell me who filed the sexual harassment complaint? 475 00:28:25,329 --> 00:28:26,956 No, / cannot 476 00:28:28,082 --> 00:28:30,835 - because? - It's policy. 477 00:28:30,918 --> 00:28:33,254 We are prohibited from giving you that name. 478 00:28:34,088 --> 00:28:35,506 Is that everything? 479 00:28:36,591 --> 00:28:38,467 This is very important. 480 00:28:38,551 --> 00:28:41,929 It's about someone who's still very powerful in the workplace. 481 00:28:42,013 --> 00:28:44,432 Who could still be harassing someone. 482 00:28:44,515 --> 00:28:46,726 Is there any way you can help me? 483 00:28:50,521 --> 00:28:52,982 You could ask me the name of the government in vest/gator 484 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:54,817 who was assigned the case. 485 00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:56,861 I could give you that information. 486 00:28:57,695 --> 00:28:59,530 - Just a name. - Thank you. 487 00:29:01,449 --> 00:29:04,493 I've made 20 calls to track this investigator. 488 00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:07,997 What did Lisa bloom say? 489 00:29:08,998 --> 00:29:12,960 She just talked as though he was kind of naughty. 490 00:29:13,044 --> 00:29:15,212 She was talking to me kind of Jew-to-Jew 491 00:29:15,296 --> 00:29:17,590 and including weinstein in the gang. 492 00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:18,883 Oh! 493 00:29:19,717 --> 00:29:24,055 I had a long conversation with Lena Dunham and jenni Konner. 494 00:29:24,138 --> 00:29:26,515 They wanna help, and they have so many numbers. 495 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:27,725 Amazing. 496 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:29,936 Did you know them before? 497 00:29:30,019 --> 00:29:32,271 [Chuckles] I don't know anyone. 498 00:29:32,355 --> 00:29:34,440 - In April, when I started... - [Cell phone ringing] 499 00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:35,858 I was literally leaving... 500 00:29:35,942 --> 00:29:37,276 It's the investigator. 501 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,696 Hi, this is Megan twohey. Thank you for getting back to me. 502 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:42,907 [Investigator] Sure. How can I help? 503 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:44,700 Do you remember the case? 504 00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:47,954 There are hundreds of sexual harassment cases at that agency. 505 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:52,750 This one was brought to you, and then it was closed very quickly. 506 00:29:52,833 --> 00:29:54,460 That's not unusual. 507 00:29:55,419 --> 00:29:57,755 It was filed against miramax? 508 00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:00,132 What's miramax? 509 00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:02,468 [Sighs] 510 00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:06,764 [Lisa] Harvey, I've read the thorough reports, 511 00:30:06,847 --> 00:30:11,102 and Rose comes across as a disturbed pathological liar. 512 00:30:11,185 --> 00:30:15,231 Clearly she must be stopped in her ridiculous, defamatory attacks on you. 513 00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:18,943 She is dangerous. You are right to be concerned 514 00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:23,030 I feel equioped to help you against the roses of the world, 515 00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:26,450 because lha ve represented so many of them. 516 00:30:26,534 --> 00:30:29,120 I'd like to meet with you to go over this in some detail. 517 00:30:29,203 --> 00:30:32,748 You should be the hero of this story, not the villain. 518 00:30:32,832 --> 00:30:34,166 Best Lisa bloom. 519 00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:40,423 I'm trying to get a hold of this assistant who worked at miramax in her early 20s. 520 00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:43,968 One day, she just disappeared. 521 00:30:44,051 --> 00:30:46,846 All she left were her running shoes under the table. 522 00:30:46,929 --> 00:30:50,224 I haven't been able to find her yet, but her mother lives in queens. 523 00:30:50,307 --> 00:30:51,809 I thought I'd just show up. 524 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:23,758 [Doorbell rings] 525 00:31:30,973 --> 00:31:32,808 -Hello. 526 00:31:33,601 --> 00:31:37,396 Hi. I was expecting your mother. 527 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Oh, I'll go get her. Who should I say... 528 00:31:39,065 --> 00:31:40,691 No, it's... it's actually... 529 00:31:40,775 --> 00:31:42,443 You're the one I wanted to see. 530 00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:44,945 Excuse me? 531 00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:47,490 My name is Megan twohey. 532 00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,367 I am an investigative reporter for the New York times. 533 00:31:51,786 --> 00:31:53,245 Would it be okay if... 534 00:31:53,329 --> 00:31:55,498 Go back upstairs. Go see abuelita. 535 00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:06,383 Could we talk for a minute... 536 00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:09,762 About your time at miramax? 537 00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:11,806 [Scoffs] 538 00:32:12,598 --> 00:32:14,558 I can't believe you found me. 539 00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:18,521 I've been waiting for this for 25 years. 540 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:26,362 I would love the chance to ask you a couple questions. 541 00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:30,241 What do you know? 542 00:32:31,659 --> 00:32:36,455 That you were at the beginning of your career and doing well. 543 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,376 And that something happened. 544 00:32:43,087 --> 00:32:44,839 And then you disappeared. 545 00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:50,219 And that your father threatened legal action. 546 00:32:59,436 --> 00:33:00,479 [Exhales] 547 00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,484 All I can tell you is that... 548 00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:11,866 I had a business dispute with miramax. 549 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:14,910 It was resolved. 550 00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:17,121 Amicably. 551 00:33:18,414 --> 00:33:20,583 And we've agreed not to discuss it. 552 00:33:26,046 --> 00:33:27,423 So glad to meet you anyway. 553 00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:37,266 It was "resolved"? 554 00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:41,061 Yeah. It was. 555 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,114 There are women who have had settlements, 556 00:33:53,157 --> 00:33:54,658 and they're bound to silence, 557 00:33:55,618 --> 00:33:58,120 but we have written around them. 558 00:33:59,330 --> 00:34:01,874 There are ways to report around that restriction. 559 00:34:01,957 --> 00:34:04,084 The source can remain anonymous. 560 00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:08,380 [Sniffles] 561 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:11,133 I should go back in. 562 00:34:15,512 --> 00:34:16,639 Look, I'm... 563 00:34:17,473 --> 00:34:20,059 Sorry. I've thrown a curveball into your trip to see your mother, 564 00:34:20,142 --> 00:34:21,894 and I don't wanna keep you from your family, 565 00:34:21,977 --> 00:34:25,105 but would it be okay if I gave you my number? 566 00:34:27,775 --> 00:34:32,321 She was terrified, Jodi, but she wants to talk. She really does. 567 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:34,406 [Jodi] Really? That's incredible. 568 00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:37,243 Listen, Gwyneth Paltrow called 569 00:34:37,326 --> 00:34:40,496 and she told me about an incident at the peninsula hotel. 570 00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:42,289 The peninsula? What the fuck? 571 00:34:42,373 --> 00:34:44,500 Exactly. Where Ashley went to meet him. 572 00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:46,669 - Shit. What happened? - [Phone beeps] 573 00:34:47,711 --> 00:34:49,088 Fuck. It's her. I have to go. 574 00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:53,217 [Former assistant] Megan, we just spoke. 575 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,052 I'm soriy, but it's a no. 576 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:56,887 But good luck. Honestly. 577 00:34:56,971 --> 00:34:58,222 [Line clicks] 578 00:35:24,957 --> 00:35:28,085 [Talia] So if you sign it, you don't tell anyone about anything? 579 00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:30,254 Yeah. It could've been bullying, 580 00:35:30,337 --> 00:35:32,798 or sometimes it's just a big shop, 581 00:35:32,881 --> 00:35:35,634 and they don't want you to tell their trade secrets. 582 00:35:35,718 --> 00:35:37,052 Did you sign one? 583 00:35:37,136 --> 00:35:38,971 [Chuckles] No. 584 00:35:39,513 --> 00:35:42,808 So, shops have secrets, but newspapers don't? 585 00:35:47,604 --> 00:35:50,149 I think pretty much everyone and everything has a secret. 586 00:35:50,232 --> 00:35:51,232 What's yours? 587 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,155 I will tell you one day. Do you have one? 588 00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:58,032 Of course. 589 00:36:01,577 --> 00:36:02,911 'Course I have a secret. 590 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,545 [Car door opens, closes] 591 00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:15,841 [Chafienng] 592 00:36:37,821 --> 00:36:39,323 [Doorbell rings] 593 00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:49,792 - Hello? - [Megan] John schmidt? 594 00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:52,586 My name is Megan twohey. I'm a reporter from the New York times. 595 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,630 Would it be possible to speak for a moment? 596 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:55,964 Come in. 597 00:37:01,428 --> 00:37:03,013 I can't see what you want from me. 598 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,892 [Megan] You were the chief financial officer at miramax. 599 00:37:06,975 --> 00:37:10,270 The women who received these settlements, they can't speak out. 600 00:37:10,354 --> 00:37:12,147 They'll be sued if they do. 601 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:16,819 But if someone could speak freely about the payouts, 602 00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:19,696 that would be hugely helpful. 603 00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:24,451 What payouts, John? 604 00:37:32,459 --> 00:37:34,086 I'm not asking you to go on the record. 605 00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:39,091 Just to have your perspective on what might've happened back then. 606 00:37:45,973 --> 00:37:47,558 I need to think about it. 607 00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:50,936 Okay? 608 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:52,771 Okay. 609 00:37:54,148 --> 00:37:55,691 Sorry just to show up. 610 00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:01,572 - Good night. - [Door opens] 611 00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:02,739 [John] Good night. 612 00:38:02,823 --> 00:38:04,116 [Door closes] 613 00:38:11,457 --> 00:38:14,251 [Breathing heavily] 614 00:38:20,883 --> 00:38:23,177 [Megan] Hi, hi. Can you hear me? 615 00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:24,386 [Eeoc caller] Yes. 616 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:27,389 [Megan] Uh, / really appreciate you talking to me on a Saturday. 617 00:38:27,473 --> 00:38:29,516 [Eeoc caller] Lhope the links were useful 618 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,144 they were, but I find it very strange 619 00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:35,606 that if I wanna access certain information, I can't. 620 00:38:35,689 --> 00:38:39,401 The eeoc is all about information. What could you not find? 621 00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:43,071 Well, for instance, which companies have had the most sexual harassment complaints, 622 00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:45,365 but no one was permitted to tell me that. 623 00:38:45,449 --> 00:38:47,868 Yes, that would be confidential information. 624 00:38:48,452 --> 00:38:49,828 But do you think that's right? 625 00:38:49,912 --> 00:38:52,581 Shouldn't the equal employment opportunities commission 626 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,583 be a resource for information? 627 00:38:56,001 --> 00:38:58,003 Our policies are re viewed annually 628 00:38:58,086 --> 00:39:01,840 so do you know internally which companies have the most complaints? 629 00:39:01,924 --> 00:39:05,802 Yes. We do, but we 're not allowed to disclose that information. 630 00:39:07,054 --> 00:39:09,389 So any woman applying for a job 631 00:39:09,473 --> 00:39:15,062 is not allowed to check the record of that employer in terms of harassment? 632 00:39:15,145 --> 00:39:18,941 That's right you should probably talk to someone higher up. 633 00:39:19,024 --> 00:39:21,026 [Chuckles] I'm... I'm going to. 634 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:24,279 I will, but don't you think that's strange? 635 00:39:24,363 --> 00:39:26,657 That the commission is there to protect people, 636 00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:31,328 but its policy prohibits sharing the information needed to protect them? 637 00:39:32,371 --> 00:39:36,625 Megan, I'm not the head of the eeoc. I was just trying to help. 638 00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:41,129 And you have. And it's the weekend. I really thank you. 639 00:39:42,548 --> 00:39:44,216 - Goodbye. - Oh, my gosh. 640 00:39:45,801 --> 00:39:46,843 Amazing. 641 00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:48,845 Incredible. 642 00:39:49,596 --> 00:39:52,724 Mira or the equal employment opportunities commission? 643 00:39:53,684 --> 00:39:54,685 Both. 644 00:39:58,313 --> 00:40:00,107 [Both laugh] 645 00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:02,901 - We're like reporting twins. - Yeah. 646 00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:04,236 Should I go up and change? 647 00:40:04,319 --> 00:40:05,529 No, let's go. 648 00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:09,741 - You look nice. - You look amazing. [Laughs] 649 00:40:16,832 --> 00:40:17,892 - [Assistant] Hi. - [Jodi] Hi. 650 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,335 - How was your ride? - Yeah. It was great. 651 00:40:20,419 --> 00:40:21,420 [Megan] It was good. 652 00:40:21,503 --> 00:40:23,088 I'm Helen. I'm Gwyneth's assistant. 653 00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:24,590 Gwyneth will be right with you. 654 00:40:24,673 --> 00:40:25,716 [Megan] Thank you. 655 00:40:30,262 --> 00:40:32,931 So it's a total pattern. A pattern of behavior. 656 00:40:33,015 --> 00:40:35,767 Gwyneth was invited to the hotel room, the business meeting, 657 00:40:35,851 --> 00:40:38,687 and then threatened with losing herjob if she refused him. 658 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:41,481 She told her agent. No one does a thing. 659 00:40:41,565 --> 00:40:43,165 [Rebecca] Will Gwyneth go on the record? 660 00:40:43,817 --> 00:40:44,818 She really wants to. 661 00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:46,528 I think she does and she doesn't. 662 00:40:46,612 --> 00:40:51,241 She is scared that it could turn into some kind of tabloidy sex scandal. 663 00:40:51,325 --> 00:40:55,704 I mean, Gwyneth was 23. So was Rose. They were so young. 664 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,706 [Rebecca] Tell me everything when you get in. 665 00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:59,041 Okay. Bye. 666 00:41:01,335 --> 00:41:02,502 [Sighs] 667 00:41:03,587 --> 00:41:06,632 The only way these women are gonna go on the record... 668 00:41:06,715 --> 00:41:07,875 Is if they all jump together. 669 00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:10,218 Yeah. 670 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,687 [Doorbell rings] 671 00:41:20,771 --> 00:41:22,522 You take the lead on this. 672 00:41:22,606 --> 00:41:25,108 No, you do it. You're less intimidating. 673 00:41:25,192 --> 00:41:27,110 You don't find me intimidating? 674 00:41:28,695 --> 00:41:31,365 - I mean... no, it's just the height thing. - [Door opens] 675 00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:33,575 - Hi. - [Jodi] Hi. 676 00:41:33,659 --> 00:41:35,702 We were just in the neighborhood. 677 00:41:35,786 --> 00:41:37,204 We're from the New York times. 678 00:41:37,287 --> 00:41:39,706 I believe you used to work for Harvey weinstein? 679 00:41:43,502 --> 00:41:44,795 [Door closes] 680 00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:48,465 - Think she'll go on the record? - [Laughs] 681 00:41:49,424 --> 00:41:50,926 Okay. I'm just gonna... 682 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:52,928 [Megan] You wanna leave the note? Yeah. 683 00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:05,190 The ndas are never examined or questioned. 684 00:42:05,273 --> 00:42:08,443 They rarely come up in open court. Law schools don't teach them. 685 00:42:08,527 --> 00:42:10,779 Also, the attorneys who represent the victims 686 00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:13,115 can get up to 40% of the settlement. 687 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:15,283 That's a big incentive to keep that system going. 688 00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,120 Most sexual harassment cases are settled out of court. 689 00:42:18,203 --> 00:42:20,622 And most of them have a confidentiality clause. 690 00:42:20,706 --> 00:42:24,000 And the women who sign these contracts have to give over all of their evidence. 691 00:42:24,084 --> 00:42:26,253 Their diaries, emails, phones. 692 00:42:26,336 --> 00:42:29,798 It's cash for silence, and it enables the perpetrators to continue. 693 00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:32,259 [Megan] And these clauses are standard practice. 694 00:42:32,342 --> 00:42:35,220 The women wanna close the case. They need the money. 695 00:42:35,303 --> 00:42:37,973 They don't wanna be branded as liars or flirts. 696 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,976 I mean, I'm sure it often seems like the only recourse. 697 00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:44,896 And I imagine some women see these settlements as a confession of guilt. 698 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:48,775 They think they've scored a victory when it's actually a gag order. 699 00:42:48,859 --> 00:42:50,986 And if you try and take a case like this to court, 700 00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:53,113 the sexual harassment laws are so weak. 701 00:42:53,196 --> 00:42:55,323 They're actually nonexistent if you're a freelancer 702 00:42:55,407 --> 00:42:57,635 or if there are fewer than 15 employees in the workplace. 703 00:42:57,659 --> 00:42:59,453 Also, most lawyers prefer settlements 704 00:42:59,536 --> 00:43:01,336 'cause it's less of a financial risk for them. 705 00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:04,708 How close are any of these actresses to going on the record? 706 00:43:04,791 --> 00:43:06,918 We're introducing the idea. 707 00:43:07,002 --> 00:43:09,880 I'm afraid we have these horrific hotel room accounts 708 00:43:09,963 --> 00:43:12,048 and no corroborating evidence. 709 00:43:12,132 --> 00:43:16,344 We feel they'll speak out if they're not the only ones. 710 00:43:16,428 --> 00:43:17,679 Safety in numbers. 711 00:43:17,763 --> 00:43:18,764 And settlements? 712 00:43:19,431 --> 00:43:21,725 Three. So far. 713 00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:23,769 There is Rose mcgowan. 714 00:43:23,852 --> 00:43:26,313 We're pretty sure about ambra battilana. 715 00:43:26,396 --> 00:43:28,899 And I would say the same for the ex-assistant in queens. 716 00:43:28,982 --> 00:43:30,317 And no documents? 717 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,861 We do not have a publishable story. 718 00:43:37,532 --> 00:43:38,575 Hey. 719 00:43:38,658 --> 00:43:40,243 [Dean] So, look, team. 720 00:43:40,827 --> 00:43:44,331 You have to imagine that every call you make is being recorded. 721 00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:45,874 And you're being followed. 722 00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:49,252 Don't let weinstein talk to you, unless it's on the record. 723 00:43:50,253 --> 00:43:53,423 I'd be interested in talking to him even off the record. 724 00:43:53,507 --> 00:43:58,011 No, if Harvey has something to say, he needs to say it publicly. 725 00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:00,013 I've dealt with him before. 726 00:44:00,096 --> 00:44:01,348 It's ugly. 727 00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:06,686 [Megan] We're looking into the incident with ambra battilana Gutierrez. 728 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:09,564 She accused weinstein of groping her. 729 00:44:09,648 --> 00:44:12,692 The NYPD gave her a wire, and she met him again. 730 00:44:12,776 --> 00:44:14,402 [Jodi] But the da wouldn't prosecute. 731 00:44:15,237 --> 00:44:17,739 They claimed the recording wasn't enough to arrest him. 732 00:44:17,823 --> 00:44:21,576 [Megan] Linda fairstein worked in the da's office. I've texted her. 733 00:44:23,495 --> 00:44:25,205 - [Ambra] - [Harvey] 734 00:45:58,465 --> 00:46:00,467 Linda, Megan twohey here. How are you? 735 00:46:01,009 --> 00:46:03,136 [Linda] I'm good Megan. How can I help? 736 00:46:03,219 --> 00:46:06,640 Yeah, I'm looking into a police complaint against Harvey weinstein 737 00:46:06,723 --> 00:46:08,308 that wasn't charged. Two years ago. 738 00:46:08,391 --> 00:46:10,393 When you were at the da's ofiice. 739 00:46:10,477 --> 00:46:12,771 Ambra battilana Gutierrez. 740 00:46:12,854 --> 00:46:14,814 Oh. Okay. 741 00:46:15,523 --> 00:46:17,359 It seemed to go away very quickly. 742 00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:20,153 There was no criminal conduct there. 743 00:46:20,236 --> 00:46:23,281 The cops seemed pretty confident there was. 744 00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:26,993 Do you think there was anything irregular about how it was handled? 745 00:46:27,577 --> 00:46:30,205 - I don't. Why would you say that? - [Sirens wailing] 746 00:46:30,288 --> 00:46:32,248 [Cell phone ringing] 747 00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:34,000 Gwyneth. 748 00:46:34,084 --> 00:46:37,963 He is here. Lin vited a few people over, and he turned up. 749 00:46:38,672 --> 00:46:42,008 Iha ven't seen him for years. He must know I spoke to you. 750 00:46:42,092 --> 00:46:45,011 Why are you so certain there was no criminal conduct? 751 00:46:45,095 --> 00:46:46,304 Wasn't there a recording? 752 00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:49,933 I don't think there's a road to go down. 753 00:46:51,977 --> 00:46:54,396 Do you feel like you're in physical danger at all? 754 00:46:54,479 --> 00:46:56,773 [Gwyneth] I'll keep people around me till he goes. 755 00:46:56,856 --> 00:46:59,109 It's a shock. I know he is watching me. 756 00:46:59,192 --> 00:47:00,235 He is letting me know. 757 00:47:01,695 --> 00:47:03,196 He can't do anything. 758 00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:06,908 Gwyneth. I'm here. Call me if you need me. 759 00:47:07,742 --> 00:47:08,743 Okay. Bye. 760 00:47:11,204 --> 00:47:13,164 Linda, do you know Harvey? 761 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,166 I've met him socially, 762 00:47:15,250 --> 00:47:17,377 but we've never been to each other's homes. 763 00:47:18,086 --> 00:47:21,715 - Okay. I'm sure we'll speak soon. - Yes. 764 00:47:22,465 --> 00:47:23,466 Goodbye. 765 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:32,058 We got a good lead to talk to a past executive at miramax. 766 00:47:32,142 --> 00:47:33,786 - Great. When will that be? - [Patron 1] Hola. 767 00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:35,145 Jodi's talking to her tomorrow. 768 00:47:35,228 --> 00:47:38,028 [Patron 2] I don't think she heard you. She definitely didn't hear you. 769 00:47:38,064 --> 00:47:39,941 - Oh, my god. - What? 770 00:47:41,818 --> 00:47:46,281 Ronan farrow is working on an hw piece for the new yorker. 771 00:47:46,364 --> 00:47:48,033 What? Since when? 772 00:47:48,116 --> 00:47:49,260 - [Jodi] She doesn't say... - Fuck. 773 00:47:49,284 --> 00:47:51,911 But apparently he's spoken to a lot of actresses already. 774 00:47:52,871 --> 00:47:53,955 [Waiter] Okay, ladies. 775 00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:55,665 These are the menus. 776 00:47:55,749 --> 00:47:57,109 - Thank you. - [Rebecca] Thank you. 777 00:47:57,959 --> 00:48:00,837 It's pressure we can do without, but we just keep going. 778 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,839 And we continue to be thorough. 779 00:48:02,922 --> 00:48:04,466 Pardon me. Excuse me. Hello. 780 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:05,967 Hi. Hello, everyone. 781 00:48:06,051 --> 00:48:08,511 Did you see my friend over there? He said hi. 782 00:48:08,595 --> 00:48:10,513 Could you leave us? We're talking. 783 00:48:10,597 --> 00:48:12,682 I absolutely will. I totally understand, 784 00:48:12,766 --> 00:48:14,410 but I was thinking maybe I could have a moment... 785 00:48:14,434 --> 00:48:16,370 We're having a conversation. So if you could just... 786 00:48:16,394 --> 00:48:18,730 - You should be doing something else. - [Megan] Fuck you. 787 00:48:18,813 --> 00:48:22,317 - Fuck you? I would bend you over... - Fuck you! 788 00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:25,528 Fuck you! Get the fuck out of here! 789 00:48:25,612 --> 00:48:27,155 Fuck you, man. Get the fuck out! 790 00:48:27,238 --> 00:48:28,907 [Laughs] 791 00:48:30,658 --> 00:48:33,328 - [Patron 1] Frigid bitches. - [Patron 2] Frigid bitches. 792 00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:35,163 [Patron 3] That guy's an asshole. 793 00:48:35,246 --> 00:48:36,998 - [Megan whispers] Sorry. - Don't apologize. 794 00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:48,343 [Chafienng] 795 00:48:52,847 --> 00:48:57,227 [Miramax executive] There was an incident in venice at the film festival. 796 00:48:57,310 --> 00:48:59,270 It was '98. 797 00:48:59,979 --> 00:49:01,523 What happened? 798 00:49:05,276 --> 00:49:08,780 What makes me most angry is the silence. 799 00:49:09,405 --> 00:49:12,951 No one spoke out then, and no one is talking about it now. 800 00:49:13,827 --> 00:49:16,830 He built the silence, and people complied. 801 00:49:17,413 --> 00:49:19,874 He produced fear and intimidation. 802 00:49:19,958 --> 00:49:22,460 The only alternative, seemingly, was to quit 803 00:49:22,544 --> 00:49:25,922 and throw away everything you worked so hard for out the door. 804 00:49:26,005 --> 00:49:28,383 You were terrified you were gonna be the next target, 805 00:49:28,466 --> 00:49:30,051 so people looked the other way. 806 00:49:30,135 --> 00:49:31,136 Within the company? 807 00:49:31,219 --> 00:49:32,804 Yes, and outside of it. 808 00:49:33,513 --> 00:49:36,141 I mean, he played the press. He played the agents. 809 00:49:36,224 --> 00:49:37,976 How did he play the press? 810 00:49:38,059 --> 00:49:42,438 By promising them access to stars in exchange for hushing up some incident. 811 00:49:42,522 --> 00:49:43,690 What sort of incident? 812 00:49:45,108 --> 00:49:46,276 Where do I start? 813 00:49:47,235 --> 00:49:49,445 Harvey had this... What did they call it? 814 00:49:50,238 --> 00:49:54,993 "A physical altercation" with a male employee at a conference. 815 00:49:55,577 --> 00:49:57,120 Then they settled with the guy. 816 00:49:57,871 --> 00:49:59,289 And with women? 817 00:50:00,623 --> 00:50:01,624 He pursued them. 818 00:50:02,792 --> 00:50:03,960 Endlessly. 819 00:50:07,714 --> 00:50:09,632 What happened in venice? 820 00:50:11,759 --> 00:50:14,554 I don't wanna be quoted. Period. 821 00:50:15,305 --> 00:50:16,472 Understood. 822 00:50:20,602 --> 00:50:22,228 We were in Harvey's suite, 823 00:50:22,312 --> 00:50:24,689 and there were a bunch of people in there. 824 00:50:25,273 --> 00:50:29,694 And there were these two assistants, and they were sitting there trembling. 825 00:50:30,445 --> 00:50:32,155 And weinstein was there? 826 00:50:32,238 --> 00:50:33,281 Yes. 827 00:50:34,407 --> 00:50:36,910 He was talking film and ignoring them, 828 00:50:37,994 --> 00:50:39,996 but they were literally vibrating. 829 00:50:40,872 --> 00:50:44,209 One with fear, the other with anger. 830 00:50:46,544 --> 00:50:47,962 Can you tell me their names? 831 00:50:49,130 --> 00:50:50,215 Yes. 832 00:50:55,511 --> 00:50:58,431 And there's another woman you should call. 833 00:50:59,557 --> 00:51:02,769 The two assistants are Rowena chiu and Zelda Perkins, 834 00:51:02,852 --> 00:51:05,897 and we have a third name, Laura Madden. 835 00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:08,691 And none of them are returning our calls. 836 00:51:08,775 --> 00:51:10,485 So? Show up in person. 837 00:51:11,069 --> 00:51:12,570 Yeah. [Chuckles] 838 00:51:13,112 --> 00:51:17,200 They live in London, silicon valley and wales. 839 00:51:17,825 --> 00:51:19,285 Can you get on a plane? 840 00:51:26,584 --> 00:51:29,128 Let me work it out with Ron. 841 00:51:32,507 --> 00:51:34,842 But yeah, of course. 842 00:51:34,926 --> 00:51:38,429 Documents, verification. You know what we need. 843 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:27,061 Sorry to bother you. I can see you're busy. 844 00:52:27,145 --> 00:52:29,397 I was looking for Rowena chi... 845 00:52:31,816 --> 00:52:35,194 Rowena's not here right now. Can I give her a message? 846 00:52:35,903 --> 00:52:37,280 When will she be back? 847 00:52:37,363 --> 00:52:40,450 My wife's out of the country for a while. 848 00:52:40,533 --> 00:52:41,534 [Chuckles] I see. 849 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,203 I did try calling her. 850 00:52:44,287 --> 00:52:45,663 This a work thing? 851 00:52:46,831 --> 00:52:49,208 You must be Andrew? Andrew cheung? 852 00:52:49,292 --> 00:52:51,794 I'm Jodi kantor. I'm from the New York times. 853 00:52:51,878 --> 00:52:53,046 Okay. 854 00:52:53,921 --> 00:52:56,549 So, what did you wanna talk to Rowena about? 855 00:52:57,550 --> 00:53:00,803 We're researching a story about miramax. 856 00:53:00,887 --> 00:53:02,889 I flew in from New York. 857 00:53:03,598 --> 00:53:05,850 - You came all this way? - Yeah. 858 00:53:07,477 --> 00:53:09,896 Um, could we talk for a minute? 859 00:53:10,521 --> 00:53:11,522 Sure. 860 00:53:12,190 --> 00:53:17,153 So, I've been speaking with people who worked for Harvey weinstein. 861 00:53:18,112 --> 00:53:20,865 You're going quite far back with Rowena's time there. 862 00:53:21,449 --> 00:53:23,785 We're writing about his treatment of women. 863 00:53:23,868 --> 00:53:25,078 Right. 864 00:53:25,161 --> 00:53:27,455 And Rowena fits in how? 865 00:53:29,248 --> 00:53:32,502 Your wife worked at miramax for some years. 866 00:53:33,336 --> 00:53:36,214 Yes. Mainly in Hong Kong. 867 00:53:36,798 --> 00:53:39,634 I'd like to hear about her experiences working for weinstein. 868 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:42,595 I'm confused why you can't discuss it on the phone. 869 00:53:42,678 --> 00:53:43,805 [Laughs] 870 00:53:43,888 --> 00:53:47,183 I did try. It is always better to actually meet. 871 00:53:53,064 --> 00:53:55,149 And this is off the record. 872 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:57,485 My understanding is that... 873 00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:00,196 That weinstein possibly victimized your wife 874 00:54:00,279 --> 00:54:01,864 when Rowena first worked for him. 875 00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:08,746 Rowena's never mentioned anything like that to me. 876 00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:12,625 What do you mean by "victimized"? Can you be more specific? 877 00:54:14,252 --> 00:54:18,131 I was told that your wife may have received a settlement from weinstein. 878 00:54:19,006 --> 00:54:22,218 [Scoffs] Do I look like a guy whose wife got a settlement? 879 00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:26,431 Could you have confused her with someone else? 880 00:54:26,514 --> 00:54:29,767 I apologize for taking up your time. I'm... 881 00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,770 Would you just please give this to Rowena? 882 00:54:33,688 --> 00:54:37,024 If you're talking to these other people, why do you need to talk to Rowena? 883 00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:41,320 And if you turn up in my driveway, what kind of victimization? 884 00:54:42,363 --> 00:54:43,448 It's complex. 885 00:54:43,531 --> 00:54:45,783 I'm asking you to expand on it. 886 00:54:46,367 --> 00:54:49,287 I really think it would be best... 887 00:54:50,788 --> 00:54:52,623 If you asked Rowena. 888 00:54:52,707 --> 00:54:54,125 Have a good day. 889 00:55:02,633 --> 00:55:04,093 [Engine starts] 890 00:55:07,305 --> 00:55:09,223 [Jodi] I just couldn't lie to him. 891 00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:10,892 And then it turns out he didn't know. 892 00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:13,436 What iflondon is a repeat of this? 893 00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:14,687 It won't be. 894 00:55:15,271 --> 00:55:17,356 I spoke with an employment lawyer in the UK 895 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,818 and he told me that it was irresponsible of me 896 00:55:20,902 --> 00:55:22,862 even to ask about breaching ndas. 897 00:55:22,945 --> 00:55:24,405 No one does it. They would get sued. 898 00:55:24,489 --> 00:55:26,199 Fuck that guy. 899 00:55:26,282 --> 00:55:28,534 Honestly, Jodi, fuck him. He has no idea. 900 00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:31,245 I wish I smoked or something. 901 00:55:32,246 --> 00:55:35,166 I'm staring at an actual brick wall 902 00:55:35,249 --> 00:55:37,293 and all I can think is, "fuck." 903 00:55:37,376 --> 00:55:38,586 That's okay. 904 00:55:39,712 --> 00:55:40,713 Fuck. 905 00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:43,549 And documents. 906 00:55:53,142 --> 00:55:54,477 So, Laura, 907 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,188 we are looking at a full mastectomy. 908 00:55:57,271 --> 00:55:59,941 And we should schedule this as soon as possible. 909 00:56:01,192 --> 00:56:02,693 I understand. 910 00:56:07,698 --> 00:56:09,367 [Line ringing] 911 00:56:12,411 --> 00:56:13,663 [Laura] Hello. 912 00:56:15,081 --> 00:56:17,917 Laura, this is Jodi kantor from the New York 77mes. 913 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,545 Um, I hope you've been getting my messages. 914 00:56:20,628 --> 00:56:23,923 I'm in California right now, but I'm coming to London tomorrow. 915 00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:25,841 Hi, Jodi. 916 00:56:29,178 --> 00:56:31,931 I'm so happy to be finally speaking with you. 917 00:56:32,014 --> 00:56:35,184 I understand that you once worked for Harvey weinstein 918 00:56:35,268 --> 00:56:37,144 in the London office of miramax. 919 00:56:37,228 --> 00:56:38,479 Is that right? 920 00:56:40,231 --> 00:56:41,357 Laura? 921 00:56:42,567 --> 00:56:44,318 [Laura crying] 922 00:56:48,322 --> 00:56:49,323 Laura... 923 00:56:49,991 --> 00:56:50,992 [Sighs] 924 00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:53,160 Can I do anything to help? 925 00:56:53,786 --> 00:56:56,539 No. I can't talk about this right now. 926 00:56:56,622 --> 00:56:57,790 [Line clicks] 927 00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:07,965 [Child] We're tied. You have the same pieces as me. 928 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,512 Hey. 929 00:57:11,596 --> 00:57:13,723 Hey, my love. Come here. 930 00:57:17,184 --> 00:57:18,394 Hey, now. 931 00:57:19,895 --> 00:57:21,689 It's going to be all right. 932 00:57:22,398 --> 00:57:25,484 - It's going to be all right. - I'm so sorry, mum. 933 00:57:25,568 --> 00:57:26,861 [Child sniffling] 934 00:57:56,015 --> 00:57:57,016 [Waiter] Here we are. 935 00:58:00,144 --> 00:58:01,145 Tea. 936 00:58:02,313 --> 00:58:03,356 Thank you. 937 00:58:05,024 --> 00:58:06,817 [Chafienng] 938 00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,752 You know, other people have tried to write this story. 939 00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:26,128 He kills it every time. 940 00:58:26,212 --> 00:58:27,963 We're aware of that. 941 00:58:29,382 --> 00:58:31,509 And we're not gonna let that happen to us. 942 00:58:35,888 --> 00:58:37,390 Are you okay, Zelda? 943 00:58:37,473 --> 00:58:38,516 Yes. 944 00:58:42,645 --> 00:58:44,563 You started working at miramax when you were 21? 945 00:58:44,647 --> 00:58:47,525 Yes. I was an assistant at the London office. 946 00:58:48,192 --> 00:58:49,443 And how was it? 947 00:58:49,527 --> 00:58:50,820 It was great, 948 00:58:50,903 --> 00:58:53,239 but it would shift when Harvey came to town. 949 00:58:53,322 --> 00:58:54,865 In what way? 950 00:58:54,949 --> 00:58:58,202 Everyone became on call to Harvey. 951 00:58:58,869 --> 00:59:00,329 And what would that entail? 952 00:59:01,455 --> 00:59:04,291 Script meetings, discussions, 953 00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:05,918 and more personal stuff. 954 00:59:06,502 --> 00:59:07,878 Like? 955 00:59:07,962 --> 00:59:12,049 For instance, I would have to go to his hotel and wake Harvey up. 956 00:59:12,883 --> 00:59:15,970 Run a shower for him. Get him out of bed. 957 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,680 He would usually be naked. 958 00:59:17,763 --> 00:59:19,640 And he might try to pull me onto him. 959 00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:22,977 - What did you do? - Fend him off. 960 00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:25,438 I found humor or aggression worked best. 961 00:59:26,147 --> 00:59:29,400 Harvey was either excited or furious. 962 00:59:29,942 --> 00:59:31,569 You never knew which it would be. 963 00:59:32,611 --> 00:59:35,865 Did anyone on the team give you advice about him? 964 00:59:35,948 --> 00:59:37,241 Yes. [Chuckles] 965 00:59:37,324 --> 00:59:40,536 Once, one girl told me to always wear my puffer jacket, 966 00:59:40,619 --> 00:59:43,330 and to always sit in an armchair, 967 00:59:43,414 --> 00:59:45,458 never the sofa next to him, 968 00:59:45,541 --> 00:59:46,834 which helped. 969 00:59:47,835 --> 00:59:50,796 And that's how I knew that it wasn't only happening to me. 970 00:59:52,006 --> 00:59:53,924 What was happening exactly? 971 00:59:54,008 --> 00:59:55,009 Bullying. 972 00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:57,094 Emotional abuse. 973 00:59:58,012 --> 00:59:59,889 I was just too young to understand it. 974 01:00:01,348 --> 01:00:03,934 Harvey wanted people to submit to him. 975 01:00:04,018 --> 01:00:05,019 And if they didn't? 976 01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:07,396 Well, then he'd roar. And he'd spit. 977 01:00:08,147 --> 01:00:09,982 He could destroy someone in seconds. 978 01:00:11,567 --> 01:00:12,902 Were you scared of him? 979 01:00:13,986 --> 01:00:16,238 Yes. We all were. 980 01:00:19,408 --> 01:00:21,577 So, three years into this, 981 01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:23,746 you were at the venice film festival. 982 01:00:26,874 --> 01:00:28,501 I resigned after that. 983 01:00:29,585 --> 01:00:30,628 What happened? 984 01:00:30,711 --> 01:00:32,588 I can't tell you all of it. 985 01:00:32,671 --> 01:00:34,173 What can you tell me? 986 01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:37,593 ["Let's dance" playing] 987 01:00:37,676 --> 01:00:39,428 J” under the moonlight j” 988 01:00:39,512 --> 01:00:42,223 j” this serious moonlight j” 989 01:00:44,141 --> 01:00:45,684 [Zelda] There was a new assistant 990 01:00:45,768 --> 01:00:46,894 she was my age. 991 01:00:47,728 --> 01:00:49,688 She was great she was very smart 992 01:00:49,772 --> 01:00:51,023 [both laughing] 993 01:00:51,106 --> 01:00:55,152 And she was doing Harvey's evening script meeting alone for the first time, 994 01:00:55,236 --> 01:00:57,738 and I told her to call me if he got difi'icult 995 01:00:59,365 --> 01:01:01,075 was he pursuing her? 996 01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:02,660 No. [Chuckles] 997 01:01:02,743 --> 01:01:05,788 Harvey said, "I don't like Jewish or Asian women." 998 01:01:06,914 --> 01:01:08,415 - But that night... - She called you. 999 01:01:09,416 --> 01:01:10,417 [Knocks on door] 1000 01:01:10,501 --> 01:01:12,795 The following morning she came to me, 1001 01:01:13,963 --> 01:01:15,130 and she was sobbing. 1002 01:01:15,214 --> 01:01:16,841 I mean, she was hysterical. 1003 01:01:16,924 --> 01:01:18,425 Rowena, what happened? 1004 01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:20,511 - Sit. - [Sobbing] 1005 01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:22,763 - [Zelda] And / held her. - What is it? 1006 01:01:23,722 --> 01:01:26,433 Did she tell you what he did? 1007 01:01:28,018 --> 01:01:29,103 Not exactly. 1008 01:01:29,854 --> 01:01:31,522 Only that no one must know. 1009 01:01:31,605 --> 01:01:32,690 But I knew. 1010 01:01:33,232 --> 01:01:34,817 I knew that he must've... 1011 01:01:36,986 --> 01:01:38,279 What? 1012 01:01:38,362 --> 01:01:40,030 She was so upset. 1013 01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:44,034 I knew that it had to be the worst possible thing. 1014 01:01:45,828 --> 01:01:48,289 I calmed her down, and I went straight to confront Harvey. 1015 01:01:48,873 --> 01:01:51,375 He was in a meeting with scorsese, 1016 01:01:52,126 --> 01:01:54,753 who hated him, so it was a really big deal for Harvey. 1017 01:01:55,296 --> 01:01:57,339 And I went straight up to him, 1018 01:01:57,423 --> 01:02:01,051 and I said very clearly, "you need to come with me right now." 1019 01:02:01,135 --> 01:02:03,053 You went right up to them and confronted him? 1020 01:02:03,137 --> 01:02:05,264 Yeah. I was so angry. 1021 01:02:05,931 --> 01:02:07,641 And in front of everyone, 1022 01:02:07,725 --> 01:02:09,977 he stood up, and... 1023 01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:12,646 He followed me like a lamb. 1024 01:02:14,481 --> 01:02:16,901 And then I knew, then I knew he did it. 1025 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,195 - And then? - He denied it. 1026 01:02:20,279 --> 01:02:22,197 He said, "I swear on my wife and kids' lives 1027 01:02:22,281 --> 01:02:24,408 that I did not assault that young woman." 1028 01:02:24,992 --> 01:02:27,286 And then I knew that he was lying. 1029 01:02:27,369 --> 01:02:30,414 He always used that line as a get-out-of—jail-free card. Always. 1030 01:02:31,582 --> 01:02:35,419 Did the assistant report it to the police? 1031 01:02:35,502 --> 01:02:37,588 No. She told no one. 1032 01:02:39,924 --> 01:02:43,302 We came back to London. We both resigned. 1033 01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:44,887 I told my direct superior, 1034 01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:48,182 who suggested we get ourselves a good lawyer. 1035 01:02:49,099 --> 01:02:50,893 I had no idea where to get one. 1036 01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:53,228 I found a company close to the office. 1037 01:02:53,312 --> 01:02:55,356 And then I thought it would be simple. 1038 01:02:55,439 --> 01:02:56,815 Criminal proceedings. 1039 01:02:56,899 --> 01:02:58,817 But our lawyer said we had no chance 1040 01:02:58,901 --> 01:03:01,021 and the only thing to do was to agree to a settlement. 1041 01:03:01,070 --> 01:03:02,404 And I said categorically no, 1042 01:03:02,488 --> 01:03:05,616 that no money should change hands and that we just wanted to stop him. 1043 01:03:05,699 --> 01:03:07,660 And no UK police were involved? 1044 01:03:07,743 --> 01:03:09,244 We had no case. 1045 01:03:09,328 --> 01:03:12,247 We had no evidence and no police report from venice. 1046 01:03:12,331 --> 01:03:15,918 And, you see, with rape, it is impossibly difficult to get a prosecution. 1047 01:03:16,001 --> 01:03:19,338 And the lawyers kept saying damage limitation was the only way to go. 1048 01:03:19,421 --> 01:03:23,467 So I said, "all right, then. We have our own very real demands." 1049 01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:26,303 Conditions that Harvey would have to meet if we were to sign. 1050 01:03:26,387 --> 01:03:28,013 And what were those conditions? 1051 01:03:28,097 --> 01:03:31,392 We demanded that if Harvey had another settlement within two years, 1052 01:03:31,475 --> 01:03:34,228 that it had to be reported to Disney or else he would be fired. 1053 01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:36,855 Another was that he would go to therapy, 1054 01:03:36,939 --> 01:03:40,109 with me present initially, so that he couldn't lie to the therapist. 1055 01:03:40,192 --> 01:03:44,989 We demanded that hr would put in a system to protect the women and staff. 1056 01:03:45,072 --> 01:03:48,409 And it felt like if we could achieve all of those, 1057 01:03:48,492 --> 01:03:50,494 then that's what our silence was paying for. 1058 01:03:50,577 --> 01:03:53,163 That we were paying for him to stop. 1059 01:03:54,707 --> 01:03:55,958 So we signed. 1060 01:03:56,667 --> 01:03:59,003 And they had their own insane conditions for us. 1061 01:03:59,712 --> 01:04:00,963 What were they? 1062 01:04:02,464 --> 01:04:05,718 I tried to commit them to memory. They wouldn't give us our own copy. 1063 01:04:05,801 --> 01:04:06,927 What? 1064 01:04:07,011 --> 01:04:09,471 I was only given visitation rights to my own settlement. 1065 01:04:09,555 --> 01:04:10,639 That's in... 1066 01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:13,350 That's incredible. 1067 01:04:13,976 --> 01:04:15,686 But you memorized them? 1068 01:04:16,937 --> 01:04:18,772 I asked for letters, too, 1069 01:04:18,856 --> 01:04:21,859 which stated some of the conditions. 1070 01:04:22,568 --> 01:04:23,694 One said, 1071 01:04:23,777 --> 01:04:29,992 "we will make best endeavors to not help the police in a criminal or civil case." 1072 01:04:30,868 --> 01:04:34,621 We weren't allowed to talk to our family or a doctor. 1073 01:04:36,707 --> 01:04:38,292 So finally we signed. 1074 01:04:39,376 --> 01:04:40,878 They gave us some money. 1075 01:04:42,129 --> 01:04:44,339 And I felt completely broken. 1076 01:04:52,681 --> 01:04:54,600 I interviewed for other jobs afterwards, 1077 01:04:54,683 --> 01:04:57,186 but everyone kept saying, ”wh y did you Lea ve Harvey?” 1078 01:05:03,525 --> 01:05:05,069 They all assumed that /'d... 1079 01:05:06,153 --> 01:05:07,988 Been with him, you know? 1080 01:05:08,072 --> 01:05:09,490 It was horrible. 1081 01:05:11,909 --> 01:05:13,243 What did you do then? 1082 01:05:13,869 --> 01:05:15,662 I went to visit a friend in Guatemala, 1083 01:05:16,288 --> 01:05:17,664 and I stayed for five years. 1084 01:05:19,041 --> 01:05:21,418 I had no chance of ever working in film again 1085 01:05:21,502 --> 01:05:23,128 and I couldn't speak freely, 1086 01:05:24,296 --> 01:05:25,422 so I worked with horses. 1087 01:05:31,386 --> 01:05:32,721 You've lost a lot. 1088 01:05:32,805 --> 01:05:34,556 [Chafienng] 1089 01:05:40,521 --> 01:05:42,689 These are the original letters. 1090 01:05:44,483 --> 01:05:46,360 I had to have their permission 1091 01:05:47,069 --> 01:05:49,404 if I wanted to contact a therapist 1092 01:05:49,488 --> 01:05:50,948 or speak to an accountant. 1093 01:05:52,783 --> 01:05:58,163 I was "never to speak to any other media, now or hereafter existing, about it." 1094 01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:00,791 Jodi, 1095 01:06:01,625 --> 01:06:03,502 this is bigger than weinstein. 1096 01:06:04,086 --> 01:06:07,506 This is about the system protecting abusers. 1097 01:06:09,091 --> 01:06:10,759 I want you to take these, 1098 01:06:11,844 --> 01:06:13,846 and I want you to use them. 1099 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,893 I've got to go now. 1100 01:06:41,582 --> 01:06:42,791 Is it dark there? 1101 01:06:42,875 --> 01:06:45,252 It 's, like, four 0 'clock here. 1102 01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:47,379 - Did you drink tea? - [Laughs] 1103 01:06:47,462 --> 01:06:49,047 A little bit. 1104 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,091 [Talia] Who are you meeting? 1105 01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:53,802 Just a few women. 1106 01:06:53,886 --> 01:06:56,889 Can you find me a shell? And a cat hat for I/iolet? 1107 01:06:56,972 --> 01:06:58,682 I will work on that. 1108 01:06:58,765 --> 01:07:00,601 Have you been okay without me? 1109 01:07:01,101 --> 01:07:02,895 Sure. You're back tomorrow. 1110 01:07:02,978 --> 01:07:04,271 I am. 1111 01:07:04,354 --> 01:07:06,398 - Yay/ -[Laughs] 1112 01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,737 What did they do, the women you're meeting? 1113 01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:14,323 We'll talk about it when you're older. 1114 01:07:15,115 --> 01:07:17,492 Are they criminals? Bank robbers? 1115 01:07:19,536 --> 01:07:20,662 Was it rape? 1116 01:07:24,875 --> 01:07:28,337 Talia, I don't think I've ever heard you use that word. 1117 01:07:29,379 --> 01:07:31,924 Boys say it all the time. And girls. 1118 01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:35,761 They shouldn't. That word shouldn't be used casually. 1119 01:07:36,428 --> 01:07:37,471 I'm soriy. 1120 01:07:38,055 --> 01:07:40,182 No. You did nothing wrong. 1121 01:07:40,265 --> 01:07:41,767 Are you angry with me? 1122 01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:43,435 No, Talia, no. 1123 01:07:43,518 --> 01:07:47,356 I miss you. I miss you like someone took a piece out of me. 1124 01:07:47,439 --> 01:07:48,732 [Laughs] 1125 01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:53,195 I lost you, Talia. Talia! 1126 01:07:53,278 --> 01:07:54,321 [Call disconnects] 1127 01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:09,962 [Sniffles] 1128 01:08:10,796 --> 01:08:12,089 Oh, god. 1129 01:08:12,172 --> 01:08:13,590 They're trying to survive, 1130 01:08:13,674 --> 01:08:17,302 and he's there 'cause he's hosting the show. 1131 01:08:17,386 --> 01:08:19,489 - And he's probably going to help them. - [Phone ringing] 1132 01:08:19,513 --> 01:08:21,473 - He's going to kill them. - Hello? 1133 01:08:21,556 --> 01:08:23,767 - What? No. - May I ask who's calling? 1134 01:08:23,850 --> 01:08:26,186 Probably going to help them if they need to get in. 1135 01:08:26,270 --> 01:08:27,729 Now, who's potts? 1136 01:08:27,813 --> 01:08:29,856 - I know, but they don't look like... - Mum. 1137 01:08:31,566 --> 01:08:33,277 It's another call from america. 1138 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,946 I told you, sweetie, just tell any journalist, "no." 1139 01:08:36,029 --> 01:08:38,115 No, she says you worked together. 1140 01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:40,367 Pamela lubell? 1141 01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:42,077 [Chattering on TV] 1142 01:08:43,036 --> 01:08:45,080 Hywel wants to take his yellow pillow to cornwall. 1143 01:08:45,163 --> 01:08:47,124 - No, we're not taking... - So? 1144 01:08:47,207 --> 01:08:49,042 We're not taking any pillows. 1145 01:08:49,126 --> 01:08:50,210 Why? 1146 01:08:50,294 --> 01:08:51,837 Pamela? 1147 01:08:52,546 --> 01:08:53,547 God. 1148 01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:58,802 Hi, Pamela. How are you? It's been decades. 1149 01:08:58,885 --> 01:09:02,681 I know, Laura. It's really been a while. How's life? 1150 01:09:02,764 --> 01:09:03,849 It's good. 1151 01:09:04,433 --> 01:09:06,184 How's everything? How are you? 1152 01:09:07,185 --> 01:09:08,645 Yeah, I'm okay. 1153 01:09:09,271 --> 01:09:10,731 That's great 1154 01:09:10,814 --> 01:09:13,900 Laura, ha ve you had any calls from repaiters 1155 01:09:13,984 --> 01:09:16,028 trying to write stories about Harvey? 1156 01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:18,697 Uh, I have, actually. Yes. 1157 01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:20,574 I didn't talk to them. 1158 01:09:21,408 --> 01:09:23,243 Good that's good to hear. 1159 01:09:23,327 --> 01:09:25,245 Cockroach journalists. 1160 01:09:25,329 --> 01:09:27,789 It was great wasn't it? Back then? 1161 01:09:27,873 --> 01:09:29,958 Harvey was always very generous. 1162 01:09:30,917 --> 01:09:32,586 That wasn't my experience. 1163 01:09:33,712 --> 01:09:37,007 Laura, can I have your assurance that you won't talk to anyone? 1164 01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:40,093 What? What did you say? 1165 01:09:40,886 --> 01:09:43,388 If you have a project, I can take it to Harvey 1166 01:09:44,181 --> 01:09:45,182 idont 1167 01:09:45,891 --> 01:09:47,642 and I'll talk to who I please. 1168 01:10:02,324 --> 01:10:04,004 - [Concierge] Good evening. - Good evening. 1169 01:10:04,076 --> 01:10:07,412 I need to book a flight to cornwall first thing in the morning. 1170 01:10:07,496 --> 01:10:08,872 Flight to cornwall tomorrow? 1171 01:10:08,955 --> 01:10:12,000 Yes. To newquay airport? 1172 01:10:12,084 --> 01:10:13,502 - Newquay. - [Jodi] Newquay. 1173 01:10:13,585 --> 01:10:15,295 You'd normally just get a train. 1174 01:10:15,379 --> 01:10:16,588 Okay, train, then. 1175 01:10:30,519 --> 01:10:32,771 [Jodi] This is a nice place for a vacation. 1176 01:10:32,854 --> 01:10:33,980 - Yeah. - Mom. 1177 01:10:35,148 --> 01:10:37,234 Um, hywel wants to play at the rocks. Is that okay? 1178 01:10:37,317 --> 01:10:38,610 - Yeah, sure. - Okay. 1179 01:10:40,779 --> 01:10:42,280 Is that your eldest? 1180 01:10:42,364 --> 01:10:43,698 Yes. [Chuckles] 1181 01:10:44,991 --> 01:10:46,576 Yes. She's 13. 1182 01:10:49,037 --> 01:10:50,205 You grew up in Ireland? 1183 01:10:50,288 --> 01:10:52,207 I did, yes. 1184 01:10:53,375 --> 01:10:58,004 And your first job was wrangling extras in '92? 1185 01:10:58,088 --> 01:11:00,173 They were shooting near us. 1186 01:11:00,257 --> 01:11:01,341 I loved it 1187 01:11:02,217 --> 01:11:04,970 and then I heard that miramax were making a film nearby, 1188 01:11:05,053 --> 01:11:07,472 and I got a job as a runner on that. 1189 01:11:07,556 --> 01:11:09,474 I was ecstatic. It was great. 1190 01:11:11,393 --> 01:11:14,312 And you met Harvey weinstein when? 1191 01:11:14,896 --> 01:11:16,314 Soon after that. 1192 01:11:16,398 --> 01:11:19,109 I was going to be working directly for him. 1193 01:11:19,192 --> 01:11:21,319 Doing errands, answering calls. 1194 01:11:22,112 --> 01:11:24,448 I was very happy to be asked. 1195 01:11:27,033 --> 01:11:28,160 He was charming. 1196 01:11:28,243 --> 01:11:32,164 He was saying he'd heard how hard / worked 1197 01:11:32,247 --> 01:11:34,958 and / was just excited 1198 01:11:36,042 --> 01:11:37,294 I was 27, you know. 1199 01:11:37,377 --> 01:11:40,213 I/eiy young, but incredibly keen. 1200 01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:45,635 So when he said he'd give me a permanent job at the London ofiice, 1201 01:11:45,719 --> 01:11:47,387 I felt so happy. 1202 01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:50,182 [Jodi] He said that in the meeting? 1203 01:11:50,265 --> 01:11:51,558 [Laura] Yes. 1204 01:11:51,641 --> 01:11:55,061 He was in his bathrobe when he opened the door, 1205 01:11:55,145 --> 01:11:58,773 but I thought that was maybe very Hollywood. 1206 01:11:59,858 --> 01:12:01,776 But quite soon into talking, 1207 01:12:02,694 --> 01:12:04,946 he said would I give him a massage. 1208 01:12:07,741 --> 01:12:08,909 I said, "no." 1209 01:12:09,868 --> 01:12:13,288 He was very matter-of-fact. He said, "it's not a romantic request." 1210 01:12:13,371 --> 01:12:15,123 Everyone does it for him. 1211 01:12:15,832 --> 01:12:17,250 It's part of the job. 1212 01:12:20,337 --> 01:12:25,300 So, I suddenly thought that I was the problem, you know. 1213 01:12:25,383 --> 01:12:28,053 That I was the one who was sexualizing it. 1214 01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:30,972 That I was just young and uptight. 1215 01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:33,266 So, I... 1216 01:12:34,935 --> 01:12:37,103 I put my hands on his shoulders, 1217 01:12:37,187 --> 01:12:42,025 but I couldn't actually move them at all over his body. 1218 01:12:43,068 --> 01:12:45,820 I just stood there. My hands wouldn't move. 1219 01:12:46,530 --> 01:12:50,784 And then he said he would give me a massage first... 1220 01:12:51,868 --> 01:12:53,203 To relax me. 1221 01:12:56,248 --> 01:12:57,749 And he said, 1222 01:12:57,832 --> 01:13:01,503 "look, all the girls do it. It's just work." 1223 01:13:02,754 --> 01:13:05,173 And then he said, "take your top off." 1224 01:13:05,757 --> 01:13:07,175 Very matter-of-fact. 1225 01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:09,844 "Take your bra off." 1226 01:13:14,975 --> 01:13:16,059 And I did. 1227 01:13:17,727 --> 01:13:21,314 I was terrified, but I just thought, 1228 01:13:21,982 --> 01:13:24,568 "get through it. Do it." 1229 01:13:27,070 --> 01:13:28,780 And then my trousers were ofif 1230 01:13:28,863 --> 01:13:31,950 and he was standing over me... 1231 01:13:33,118 --> 01:13:34,452 Masturbating. 1232 01:13:36,121 --> 01:13:38,540 Iasked him to leave me alone. 1233 01:13:39,416 --> 01:13:42,502 But he kept asking for difierent things. 1234 01:13:42,586 --> 01:13:45,297 And then he suggested a shower, and I got up. 1235 01:13:46,881 --> 01:13:49,259 And he carried on... 1236 01:13:50,385 --> 01:13:51,970 Masturbating. 1237 01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:54,681 And / kept crying. 1238 01:13:54,764 --> 01:13:57,559 And/ was sobbing, and the water was pouring down, 1239 01:13:57,642 --> 01:14:01,646 and he was still masturbating. 1240 01:14:03,315 --> 01:14:04,482 Then he got angiy. 1241 01:14:04,566 --> 01:14:07,736 I think my crying was so loud it put him ofif 1242 01:14:09,029 --> 01:14:11,740 and he left the bathroom, 1243 01:14:11,823 --> 01:14:13,908 and I locked the door. 1244 01:14:14,701 --> 01:14:17,329 - And I could still hear him... - [Water running] 1245 01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:18,830 On the other side. 1246 01:14:19,623 --> 01:14:22,626 Still the sounds of him masturbating. 1247 01:14:25,170 --> 01:14:27,297 Finally, / went back into the room itself 1248 01:14:27,380 --> 01:14:31,259 and grabbed my clothes and belongings, and I just ran. 1249 01:14:31,343 --> 01:14:33,720 Iran down the street 1250 01:14:33,803 --> 01:14:37,307 I've never run that fast in my life. 1251 01:14:43,647 --> 01:14:45,357 [Jodi] How do you feel about it now? 1252 01:14:52,113 --> 01:14:53,573 I... [sighs] 1253 01:14:56,159 --> 01:15:00,246 I feel like it dictated a certain direction my life took. 1254 01:15:01,456 --> 01:15:05,210 That... I just felt that it was this huge error of judgment 1255 01:15:05,293 --> 01:15:08,505 that sort of marked me and all my decisions. 1256 01:15:09,881 --> 01:15:10,882 And... 1257 01:15:13,051 --> 01:15:15,345 I felt such shame... 1258 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:20,517 That... I let him do that. 1259 01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:26,773 Did you think that he had done the same to other girls? 1260 01:15:26,856 --> 01:15:28,733 I thought that he must've tried it. 1261 01:15:30,694 --> 01:15:32,946 But that they'd all s... 1262 01:15:34,864 --> 01:15:36,449 They'd all said, "no." 1263 01:15:40,787 --> 01:15:44,082 It was like he took my voice that day. 1264 01:15:46,751 --> 01:15:51,005 Just when I was about to start finding it. 1265 01:15:54,175 --> 01:15:56,195 [Sarah Sanders on TV] Responsible immigration reform? 1266 01:15:56,219 --> 01:15:58,388 The president certainly welcomes those con versations. 1267 01:15:58,471 --> 01:15:59,597 [Phone ringing] 1268 01:15:59,681 --> 01:16:00,682 Yes? 1269 01:16:00,765 --> 01:16:03,309 [Secretary] Lhave Harvey weinstein on the phone for you. 1270 01:16:04,185 --> 01:16:05,520 Put him through. Thank you. 1271 01:16:08,398 --> 01:16:10,525 Dean, how are you? This is Harvey 1272 01:16:10,608 --> 01:16:12,277 hi, Harvey. What can I do for you? 1273 01:16:13,278 --> 01:16:15,613 If / hadn't made mo vies, I would 've been a journalist 1274 01:16:17,198 --> 01:16:19,993 Dean, lheard someone was working on a story about me. 1275 01:16:20,076 --> 01:16:22,871 Yes. If you'd like to talk to the reporters on the record, 1276 01:16:22,954 --> 01:16:23,955 they'd welcome that. 1277 01:16:24,038 --> 01:16:25,081 I wanna talk to you, Dean. 1278 01:16:25,165 --> 01:16:27,292 Well, talk to my reporters about your concerns. 1279 01:16:27,375 --> 01:16:29,419 I'm sorry. I have work to do. 1280 01:16:29,502 --> 01:16:30,712 Are you gonna hang up? 1281 01:16:30,795 --> 01:16:32,630 Unless you have anything else to say? 1282 01:16:33,298 --> 01:16:34,549 I/o ve the truth. 1283 01:16:35,300 --> 01:16:37,260 People make up stories a lot 1284 01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:39,220 be careful with that 1285 01:16:39,304 --> 01:16:41,222 that's fine, Harvey. Goodbye. 1286 01:16:42,724 --> 01:16:45,703 [News anchor on TV] But essentially, Sarah Sanders was saying, ”hey, america.” 1287 01:16:45,727 --> 01:16:49,022 Perhaps they didn't like it they didn't put him in the oval ofi'ice. 1288 01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,776 Pretty in-depth. But the focus was primarily on solutions... 1289 01:16:52,859 --> 01:16:54,486 [Phone ringing] 1290 01:16:57,572 --> 01:16:59,199 - Hi, Chanel. - Hey, Dean. 1291 01:16:59,282 --> 01:17:00,325 Hey, Tim. 1292 01:17:06,456 --> 01:17:07,957 - Matt, you got a minute? - Yeah. 1293 01:17:09,834 --> 01:17:11,044 [Dean] So, what do we have? 1294 01:17:11,127 --> 01:17:13,129 Well, the biggest thing is the documents 1295 01:17:13,213 --> 01:17:15,465 that Jodi got from Zelda Perkins in London. 1296 01:17:15,548 --> 01:17:17,592 Rose is still off the record, 1297 01:17:17,675 --> 01:17:20,762 but she has given us permission to write about her settlement. 1298 01:17:20,845 --> 01:17:23,223 We're just trying to figure out a way to confirm it. 1299 01:17:23,306 --> 01:17:27,060 Harvey offered her a million dollars recently for her silence. 1300 01:17:27,602 --> 01:17:28,603 And? 1301 01:17:28,686 --> 01:17:31,147 Rose refused, but she doesn't want us to quote her. 1302 01:17:31,231 --> 01:17:33,858 There are still no on-the-record sources. Ndas are a problem. 1303 01:17:34,526 --> 01:17:35,920 [Megan] Laura Madden didn't sign one. 1304 01:17:35,944 --> 01:17:39,239 She's the only ex-assistant who is technically free to speak. 1305 01:17:39,322 --> 01:17:42,682 Ashley and Gwyneth didn't sign one either, but they're not ready to go on the record. 1306 01:17:42,742 --> 01:17:45,829 But Laura Madden has to deal with something very different right now. 1307 01:17:45,912 --> 01:17:48,057 [Megan] She has breast cancer. She has to go into surgery. 1308 01:17:48,081 --> 01:17:49,874 So, it's not likely. 1309 01:17:49,958 --> 01:17:52,043 I'm still leaving messages for Rowena chiu, 1310 01:17:52,126 --> 01:17:53,753 but there's no engagement. 1311 01:17:53,837 --> 01:17:55,713 So, no more proven settlements. 1312 01:17:55,797 --> 01:17:58,758 Ambra battilana Gutierrez almost certainly settled. 1313 01:17:58,842 --> 01:18:00,927 And John schmidt confirmed that miramax settled 1314 01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:02,387 with the woman I visited in queens. 1315 01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:04,764 Anything more on the article from the new yorker? 1316 01:18:06,766 --> 01:18:09,811 Lanny Davis and David boies wanna come to talk to us. 1317 01:18:10,603 --> 01:18:11,604 What do you think? 1318 01:18:11,688 --> 01:18:15,358 Don't we wanna wait and push for an on-the-record interview with weinstein? 1319 01:18:15,441 --> 01:18:16,943 It's your call, binky. 1320 01:18:17,026 --> 01:18:20,613 I'd like to talk to Lanny, at least. See what he has to say. 1321 01:18:21,406 --> 01:18:23,116 [Lanny] Harvey's not always that rational. 1322 01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:26,828 The reason I'm here as his representative is not to try to kill anything. 1323 01:18:26,911 --> 01:18:30,957 I wanna know that if you're including something like Rose mcgowan's claim, 1324 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,292 then we can defend that. 1325 01:18:32,375 --> 01:18:33,418 [Rebecca] Of course. 1326 01:18:34,168 --> 01:18:35,169 Please. 1327 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,259 I know you'll be investigating with due diligence. 1328 01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,388 Lanny, you'll have every chance to respond. 1329 01:18:47,599 --> 01:18:49,601 - Uh... - And I trust it's okay to record this? 1330 01:18:49,684 --> 01:18:50,852 Oh, of course. Sure. 1331 01:18:52,145 --> 01:18:56,065 I don't expect you to name sources, but if it's possible for you 1332 01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:59,861 to let me know overall what your story's about? 1333 01:18:59,944 --> 01:19:03,364 We're looking into problematic behavior towards women by weinstein. 1334 01:19:04,365 --> 01:19:05,366 Okay. 1335 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,747 Harvey adamantly denies any allegation of rape or assault. 1336 01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:12,081 Nothing criminal. 1337 01:19:13,041 --> 01:19:16,753 But he is aware of complaints about his treatment of women, 1338 01:19:16,836 --> 01:19:19,047 and he is working on that. 1339 01:19:20,048 --> 01:19:22,675 Powerful men of an older generation 1340 01:19:23,468 --> 01:19:26,888 are changing their understanding of the meaning of the word "consensual." 1341 01:19:26,971 --> 01:19:31,643 Why women don't feel it's consensual even if a man convinces himself it is. 1342 01:19:32,685 --> 01:19:34,145 Do you wanna expand on that? 1343 01:19:35,021 --> 01:19:39,943 Uh, I believe there's a story to be told about the evolution of men, 1344 01:19:40,026 --> 01:19:42,528 and, in particular, Harvey, on this subject. 1345 01:19:43,571 --> 01:19:45,657 Would he be willing to talk to us about it? 1346 01:19:45,740 --> 01:19:47,075 On the record? 1347 01:19:48,785 --> 01:19:52,246 He has to deal with his wife and children before anything else. 1348 01:19:53,498 --> 01:19:57,669 You're adamant Rose mcgowan's rape accusation is false. 1349 01:19:58,378 --> 01:19:59,379 Why is that? 1350 01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:03,633 Did she tell anybody right away? Did she show any signs of distress? 1351 01:20:03,716 --> 01:20:06,302 She told her manager and a lawyer. 1352 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,307 Harvey was aware that there was a problem with Rose, 1353 01:20:11,391 --> 01:20:14,477 but not that she was accusing him of rape. 1354 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,521 So I draw a bright line on the word "rape." 1355 01:20:16,604 --> 01:20:18,106 Anything below that line, 1356 01:20:19,023 --> 01:20:21,776 uh, he was aware of feelings, concerns. 1357 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,360 Of what kind? 1358 01:20:23,987 --> 01:20:24,988 I'm sorry. What... 1359 01:20:25,071 --> 01:20:28,658 If the concerns were not about rape, what were they about? 1360 01:20:30,743 --> 01:20:32,829 The only way I can answer is, uh... 1361 01:20:35,164 --> 01:20:40,128 A sense of exploitation because of that disparate power relationship. 1362 01:20:41,212 --> 01:20:45,258 There's mental coercion that isn't physical coercion. 1363 01:20:45,341 --> 01:20:49,178 Lisa bloom has been working with Harvey to help him recognize the difference. 1364 01:20:49,262 --> 01:20:51,681 - Lisa bloom? - Yeah. 1365 01:20:53,141 --> 01:20:58,146 If Harvey had been made aware of mcgowan's concerns at the time, 1366 01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:59,897 how did he respond? 1367 01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:03,860 I think he had dealings legally with her about them. 1368 01:21:04,902 --> 01:21:07,530 And how would you characterize those legal dealings? 1369 01:21:10,158 --> 01:21:14,287 I think he became aware that she did not regard what happened as okay with her. 1370 01:21:14,370 --> 01:21:15,580 I'm not talking about rape. 1371 01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:19,584 I'm talking about the effect he had on Rose mcgowan. 1372 01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:22,462 And that rather than fighting... 1373 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,090 "Rather than fighting"? Then... 1374 01:21:27,050 --> 01:21:28,051 Then what? 1375 01:21:31,345 --> 01:21:34,015 I think he has agreed to settlements 1376 01:21:34,098 --> 01:21:36,726 rather than litigating what might have been litigated. 1377 01:21:36,809 --> 01:21:39,479 As Harvey saw it, it was better to settle, 1378 01:21:39,562 --> 01:21:41,439 even if you haven't done anything wrong. 1379 01:21:42,065 --> 01:21:43,483 He preferred "to settle"? 1380 01:21:45,526 --> 01:21:49,447 Were there other cases of questionable intimate relations with women 1381 01:21:49,530 --> 01:21:51,115 in which weinstein settled? 1382 01:21:53,785 --> 01:21:55,036 Let's say for now, 1383 01:21:56,037 --> 01:21:57,455 even on a background basis, 1384 01:21:57,538 --> 01:21:59,957 that I need to find out what my limits are legally. 1385 01:22:00,541 --> 01:22:04,212 Even if on background, I'm confirming settlements. 1386 01:22:04,295 --> 01:22:07,924 But the answer is, yes, there have been. 1387 01:22:11,052 --> 01:22:12,136 How many? 1388 01:22:17,725 --> 01:22:18,935 [Chuckles] 1389 01:22:19,018 --> 01:22:22,897 To admit to settlements this early, they're in real trouble. 1390 01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:25,983 We need to find out a number. We need to corroborate each one. 1391 01:22:26,067 --> 01:22:27,860 - I'm on it. - [Cell phone buzzes] 1392 01:22:27,944 --> 01:22:30,530 Have you guys had any dealings with Diana filip? 1393 01:22:32,406 --> 01:22:34,206 I said no to speaking at a women's conference. 1394 01:22:34,242 --> 01:22:35,535 She just keeps on calling me. 1395 01:22:35,618 --> 01:22:37,120 Did you have her checked out? 1396 01:22:37,203 --> 01:22:40,665 The security consultant says she's legit, but who has time for these random people? 1397 01:22:42,959 --> 01:22:44,585 [Cell phone buzzing] 1398 01:22:54,178 --> 01:22:55,346 Hello? 1399 01:22:55,429 --> 01:22:59,225 [Ex-miramax employee] I worked at miramax. Talk to lrwin reiter. He hates weinstein. 1400 01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:00,560 [Line clicks] 1401 01:23:05,273 --> 01:23:07,733 [Cell phone buzzing] 1402 01:23:10,653 --> 01:23:12,363 Hey. Are you okay? 1403 01:23:12,446 --> 01:23:13,698 [Jodi] Did I wake you? 1404 01:23:15,324 --> 01:23:17,493 Um, yeah. What's up? 1405 01:23:18,494 --> 01:23:20,496 What do you know about lrwin reiter? 1406 01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:23,332 Hang on. 1407 01:23:23,875 --> 01:23:25,459 I put together a file on him. 1408 01:23:26,043 --> 01:23:28,588 I need to write a good fucking email. 1409 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,810 Hi. Thanks for meeting me. 1410 01:23:43,519 --> 01:23:44,937 You wanna get me killed? 1411 01:23:52,486 --> 01:23:53,738 So, inivin, 1412 01:23:54,614 --> 01:23:57,950 you've been an accountant for the weinsteins for 30 years. 1413 01:24:01,996 --> 01:24:05,416 I pick up the check, and I reserve the right to leave after five minutes. 1414 01:24:06,167 --> 01:24:07,460 So... [clears throat] 1415 01:24:08,377 --> 01:24:09,754 What do you wanna know? 1416 01:24:09,837 --> 01:24:13,549 We have information on several settlements that weinstein made in the '903. 1417 01:24:13,633 --> 01:24:16,427 Paid to actresses and ex-employees. 1418 01:24:17,470 --> 01:24:19,388 Could you tell me anything about that? 1419 01:24:21,849 --> 01:24:24,185 Could you confirm those settlements, 1420 01:24:24,268 --> 01:24:26,312 and how it was from your perspective? 1421 01:24:26,395 --> 01:24:27,480 My "perspective"? 1422 01:24:29,023 --> 01:24:31,525 Would it be company money that was used? 1423 01:24:32,944 --> 01:24:36,030 You wrote that we're from the same tiny world. 1424 01:24:36,113 --> 01:24:37,156 Yeah. 1425 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,450 Summers at bungalows in the catskills. 1426 01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:42,245 Meals at lefty's and pop-ins. [Chuckles] 1427 01:24:42,328 --> 01:24:44,413 What do you remember about those holidays? 1428 01:24:45,081 --> 01:24:47,333 Gosh, I remember so many things. 1429 01:24:48,459 --> 01:24:51,420 It's the first time I remember seeing my grandmother's arms bare. 1430 01:24:52,505 --> 01:24:56,008 I knew those tattoos meant something seismic. 1431 01:24:56,926 --> 01:24:58,719 Yeah, how did you know? 1432 01:24:58,803 --> 01:25:00,263 I just sensed it. 1433 01:25:01,222 --> 01:25:03,057 Did your family discuss it? 1434 01:25:07,395 --> 01:25:08,813 Who else are you talking to? 1435 01:25:09,438 --> 01:25:11,232 I can't disclose that, inivin. 1436 01:25:14,026 --> 01:25:17,029 You know, my parents... They couldn't go there. 1437 01:25:17,113 --> 01:25:19,115 They rarely discussed it. 1438 01:25:20,908 --> 01:25:22,702 It's so mysterious, isn't it? 1439 01:25:23,786 --> 01:25:25,871 Why some families talk. 1440 01:25:25,955 --> 01:25:27,206 Some don't. 1441 01:25:29,458 --> 01:25:34,255 The money weinstein was spending was, you know, crazy. 1442 01:25:34,338 --> 01:25:38,092 I tried. I tried many times to get the board to do something about it, 1443 01:25:38,175 --> 01:25:42,555 but they just kept ignoring his behavior and keeping him on. 1444 01:25:42,638 --> 01:25:43,973 Why is that? 1445 01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:47,310 Have you talked to loc? 1446 01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:50,813 Or zp? 1447 01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:52,315 Who is "loc"? 1448 01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:54,525 There was this memo. 1449 01:25:55,693 --> 01:25:58,487 Let me ask you something, Jodi, that's really puzzling me. 1450 01:25:59,322 --> 01:26:01,198 Why are you asking about the '90s, 1451 01:26:01,282 --> 01:26:04,827 when weinstein has committed so many more recent offenses? 1452 01:26:06,996 --> 01:26:08,039 I gotta go. 1453 01:26:08,914 --> 01:26:10,666 - I'll give you a call. - Innin. 1454 01:26:44,075 --> 01:26:45,076 [Talia] Mom. [Crying] 1455 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,370 I had a nightmare. 1456 01:26:47,453 --> 01:26:48,913 Oh, honey. Come here. 1457 01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:56,587 Shh, shh, shh, shh. 1458 01:26:56,670 --> 01:26:58,172 It's okay. It's okay. 1459 01:26:58,255 --> 01:27:02,843 I heard that ambra battilana Gutierrez just got a seven-figure settlement. 1460 01:27:02,927 --> 01:27:06,347 And that weinstein now owns the audio of the incident? 1461 01:27:08,224 --> 01:27:10,226 These settlements, Lanny, 1462 01:27:11,435 --> 01:27:12,436 what are we talking? 1463 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:17,400 I can't tell you that, Megan. You know that. 1464 01:27:17,483 --> 01:27:19,527 I'm not talking about naming you, of course. 1465 01:27:19,610 --> 01:27:22,405 It would just be great for background. 1466 01:27:23,072 --> 01:27:26,200 To know a number of the other settlements 1467 01:27:26,283 --> 01:27:27,660 that you're aware of. 1468 01:27:28,327 --> 01:27:30,371 - I'm not a bad guy here. - I know that. 1469 01:27:30,454 --> 01:27:35,626 My profession is to get the facts into the hands of reporters... [chuckles] 1470 01:27:35,709 --> 01:27:38,212 But, you know, I can't help. 1471 01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:43,843 I keep getting 40 in my head. 1472 01:27:43,926 --> 01:27:45,177 [Sighs] 1473 01:27:45,261 --> 01:27:47,096 Which would be ridiculous, right? 1474 01:27:50,307 --> 01:27:51,392 Right? 1475 01:27:55,312 --> 01:27:56,313 It's not 40. 1476 01:27:58,983 --> 01:28:02,862 Seriously, it's, uh, less than 40. 1477 01:28:02,945 --> 01:28:04,864 Well, good. That's a relief. 1478 01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:06,198 Sure. [Chuckles] 1479 01:28:11,036 --> 01:28:14,790 Less than half of 40, then? 1480 01:28:15,583 --> 01:28:17,376 - Check. - Oh, and what the fuck, Lanny? 1481 01:28:17,460 --> 01:28:19,962 We heard that Ronan farrow is working on a story. 1482 01:28:20,045 --> 01:28:22,715 No, no. That is done. Over. 1483 01:28:25,801 --> 01:28:28,012 I don't see you as a bad guy, Lanny. 1484 01:28:29,221 --> 01:28:31,390 Idont.lneverhave. Irespectyou. 1485 01:28:31,474 --> 01:28:33,017 I respect you. 1486 01:28:34,768 --> 01:28:37,521 [Sighs] 1487 01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:40,774 This is all gonna come out, Lanny. 1488 01:28:41,775 --> 01:28:43,277 Publicly. 1489 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,695 Generally does. 1490 01:28:45,946 --> 01:28:48,741 - Okay. [Laughs] - [Laughs] 1491 01:28:52,328 --> 01:28:53,787 What am I laughing about? 1492 01:28:56,332 --> 01:28:58,542 [Sighs] Oh, Megan. 1493 01:28:59,835 --> 01:29:00,836 Lanny. 1494 01:29:10,095 --> 01:29:11,805 I'd say eight to 12 settlements. 1495 01:29:24,944 --> 01:29:26,612 And do you think that's normal? 1496 01:29:28,030 --> 01:29:30,449 For men to make so many payoffs? 1497 01:29:35,204 --> 01:29:37,206 I do. Yeah. 1498 01:29:42,044 --> 01:29:43,754 It feels like we're so close. 1499 01:29:44,380 --> 01:29:45,631 Do you think we'll get it? 1500 01:29:45,714 --> 01:29:46,715 What if we don't? 1501 01:29:48,217 --> 01:29:49,802 I'm having nightmares about him. 1502 01:29:49,885 --> 01:29:51,262 Oh, my god. I have them too. 1503 01:29:51,345 --> 01:29:52,680 Yeah? 1504 01:29:52,763 --> 01:29:57,184 I'm terrified we know all this, and we might go to our graves knowing it. 1505 01:29:58,060 --> 01:29:59,478 The story will run. 1506 01:29:59,562 --> 01:30:02,398 My worry is people won't care. 1507 01:30:03,232 --> 01:30:05,985 And he won't even be slowed down, let alone stopped. 1508 01:30:06,485 --> 01:30:08,862 It's like an ocean of wrongdoing. 1509 01:30:08,946 --> 01:30:11,574 I mean, can you imagine how many harveys there are out there? 1510 01:30:11,657 --> 01:30:12,700 Every day? 1511 01:30:14,076 --> 01:30:15,619 I sometimes wonder... 1512 01:30:18,789 --> 01:30:20,624 When I had Mira, 1513 01:30:23,627 --> 01:30:24,837 if all the trauma, 1514 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,216 not just in me, but in all of the women I talked to, 1515 01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:30,301 if it just... 1516 01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:35,681 This darkness, this constant violence, if it just sort of imploded? 1517 01:30:37,141 --> 01:30:41,395 Maybe that's part of the depression that hits women. 1518 01:30:45,357 --> 01:30:47,693 Do you wish you hadn't signed up for this story? 1519 01:30:50,195 --> 01:30:51,363 Do you? 1520 01:30:55,367 --> 01:30:56,619 No. [Chuckles] 1521 01:31:04,126 --> 01:31:07,588 [Jodi] The last time we met, you mentioned a memo? 1522 01:31:15,095 --> 01:31:18,265 It was from an ex-executive. 1523 01:31:18,349 --> 01:31:20,517 And it was extensive, scathing. 1524 01:31:20,601 --> 01:31:22,186 She sent it to the board. 1525 01:31:22,269 --> 01:31:24,647 When was this? How did they react? 1526 01:31:24,730 --> 01:31:27,941 It was a short burst of behind-doors mayhem, and then she left. 1527 01:31:29,151 --> 01:31:31,070 What did her memo say? 1528 01:31:31,153 --> 01:31:33,238 That the company was a toxic environment. 1529 01:31:35,741 --> 01:31:37,201 Would anyone have a copy? 1530 01:31:37,284 --> 01:31:38,994 [Laughs] 1531 01:31:44,208 --> 01:31:45,209 Hey. 1532 01:31:47,169 --> 01:31:49,630 - Sorry it's so late. - Mmm. 1533 01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:54,551 [Jodi] You okay? 1534 01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:58,305 Uh, Talia was up late. Violet woke up twice. 1535 01:31:58,389 --> 01:32:02,226 I have an inbox filled with enraged people about this insurance story 1536 01:32:02,309 --> 01:32:03,977 which is going to be huge. 1537 01:32:04,061 --> 01:32:07,564 There is already hundreds of emails here, 1538 01:32:07,648 --> 01:32:11,443 and there is... [chuckles] A hurricane heading towards Florida. 1539 01:32:11,527 --> 01:32:13,570 So, I am going to somehow fly down there 1540 01:32:13,654 --> 01:32:17,574 and move my dad some place else before he is literally blown away. 1541 01:32:17,658 --> 01:32:20,619 And I have a slight nervous twitch in my eye. 1542 01:32:20,703 --> 01:32:21,787 Let me see. 1543 01:32:25,124 --> 01:32:26,625 [Sighs] 1544 01:32:26,917 --> 01:32:28,377 Can you get the raisin? 1545 01:32:28,460 --> 01:32:30,796 [Both laughing] 1546 01:32:30,879 --> 01:32:34,049 - Hey! Hey! Holly! - [Chattering, laughing] 1547 01:32:35,092 --> 01:32:37,261 - [Cell phone ringing] - Slow down. 1548 01:32:37,344 --> 01:32:39,096 Here. Will you hold crabby for a second? 1549 01:32:39,179 --> 01:32:40,305 Least they're having fun. 1550 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,434 Hi. This is Jodi kantor. 1551 01:32:43,517 --> 01:32:46,145 This is Rowena chiu. I'm in New York. 1552 01:32:46,937 --> 01:32:48,814 Do you still want to meet up? 1553 01:32:50,023 --> 01:32:51,275 I couldn't tell anyone. 1554 01:32:51,984 --> 01:32:54,486 Not my parents. Not even my husband. 1555 01:32:55,279 --> 01:32:56,280 Why not? 1556 01:32:58,365 --> 01:33:00,701 I grew up in an immigrant household. 1557 01:33:00,784 --> 01:33:03,328 I was taught to keep my head down, 1558 01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:06,582 work hard and not draw attention to myself, you know? 1559 01:33:07,458 --> 01:33:11,962 In Chinese culture, I felt I had to protect my family at all costs. 1560 01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:15,674 And I was young, scared. 1561 01:33:18,677 --> 01:33:21,346 Can you tell me anything about what happened in venice? 1562 01:33:24,308 --> 01:33:26,894 This is off the record, yeah? 1563 01:33:30,898 --> 01:33:32,399 I had the evening shifts, 1564 01:33:32,483 --> 01:33:34,818 going through notes on screenplays with Harvey. 1565 01:33:35,694 --> 01:33:37,237 One night, we were working, 1566 01:33:37,321 --> 01:33:40,783 and he kept trying to touch me. 1567 01:33:41,533 --> 01:33:45,954 I didn't want to make him angry. He's a very big man. 1568 01:33:47,122 --> 01:33:49,374 I kept trying to get back to the notes. 1569 01:33:49,458 --> 01:33:54,505 And that went on for a few hours, just trying to avoid him. 1570 01:33:54,588 --> 01:33:56,215 How did you do that? 1571 01:33:57,841 --> 01:34:00,552 I would just fight him off. 1572 01:34:02,012 --> 01:34:06,266 I'd worn two pairs of tights to buy me some time if I ever needed it. 1573 01:34:07,851 --> 01:34:09,770 But finally, 1574 01:34:10,687 --> 01:34:13,065 he held me down. 1575 01:34:14,107 --> 01:34:17,152 Not forcefully, but like it was a game. 1576 01:34:19,279 --> 01:34:21,990 Then he parted my legs. 1577 01:34:23,492 --> 01:34:24,743 And he said... 1578 01:34:26,787 --> 01:34:30,624 "Please, just one thrust, and it'll all be over." 1579 01:34:34,962 --> 01:34:36,338 I got away. 1580 01:34:36,421 --> 01:34:38,173 I was traumatized. 1581 01:34:38,257 --> 01:34:41,176 I was a Christian. I was still with my first boyfriend. 1582 01:34:42,636 --> 01:34:45,180 And you shared this with Zelda? 1583 01:34:45,264 --> 01:34:49,476 Zelda was completely enraged and very brave in facing him. 1584 01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:51,645 We both resigned. 1585 01:34:54,022 --> 01:34:56,441 But I couldn't get a new job after leaving miramax. 1586 01:34:57,150 --> 01:35:00,195 Everyone kept saying if I worked for Harvey, why would I leave? 1587 01:35:01,822 --> 01:35:04,533 The nda that we signed, 1588 01:35:04,616 --> 01:35:08,495 it stipulated that if I ever had trouble getting a job in film again, 1589 01:35:09,329 --> 01:35:12,833 I was to go back to Harvey or his lawyer, hutensky, for help. 1590 01:35:14,084 --> 01:35:17,254 I asked them for a reference, 1591 01:35:17,337 --> 01:35:21,758 and hutensky, he kept repeating... 1592 01:35:24,094 --> 01:35:25,721 What? What was he saying? 1593 01:35:28,724 --> 01:35:30,976 How much Harvey valued me. 1594 01:35:35,647 --> 01:35:38,650 We agreed I would return to miramax 1595 01:35:39,276 --> 01:35:41,028 under strict conditions. 1596 01:35:43,447 --> 01:35:46,283 So, I signed for Hong Kong. 1597 01:35:47,659 --> 01:35:50,329 I thought he would be far enough away. 1598 01:35:51,163 --> 01:35:52,539 I thought I'd be okay. 1599 01:35:55,626 --> 01:35:57,210 But it was horrible. 1600 01:35:58,587 --> 01:35:59,671 I was a mess. 1601 01:36:00,380 --> 01:36:03,050 I felt incredibly alone. 1602 01:36:04,343 --> 01:36:06,511 I couldn't tell anyone about it 1603 01:36:06,595 --> 01:36:10,015 and the isolation just ate into me. 1604 01:36:11,516 --> 01:36:13,352 [Speaking cantonese] 1605 01:36:18,649 --> 01:36:20,609 [Rowena] One day / disappeared from work 1606 01:36:23,028 --> 01:36:24,780 I wanted to be dead 1607 01:36:26,531 --> 01:36:28,075 I didn't know how to be, 1608 01:36:28,784 --> 01:36:31,620 how to keep going, living with it 1609 01:36:33,956 --> 01:36:35,666 I tried to kill myself 1610 01:36:36,458 --> 01:36:39,169 but / didn't know how. 1611 01:36:39,252 --> 01:36:40,587 [Chuckles] 1612 01:36:41,171 --> 01:36:43,131 I felt / failed at even that 1613 01:36:48,011 --> 01:36:49,346 I wanna give you this. 1614 01:36:51,139 --> 01:36:55,185 It's a description from an actress you would know and recognize. 1615 01:37:10,617 --> 01:37:11,618 What? 1616 01:37:11,702 --> 01:37:15,497 This person won't go on the record. I can't put her in the story. 1617 01:37:24,423 --> 01:37:25,799 [Stammering] I... I didn't... 1618 01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:29,386 I didn't know anything like this. 1619 01:37:33,223 --> 01:37:35,934 I thought it was just extramarital bullshit. 1620 01:37:36,685 --> 01:37:37,769 It's not. 1621 01:38:04,713 --> 01:38:06,173 Do with it what you want. 1622 01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:33,742 [Camera shutter clicking] 1623 01:38:58,558 --> 01:39:00,661 - [Cell phone dings] - [CNN reporter] ...Nota single bit 1624 01:39:00,685 --> 01:39:02,395 of aid or assistance, 1625 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,731 and it's about 45 minutes' drive... 1626 01:39:04,815 --> 01:39:05,816 Shit. 1627 01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:07,400 This is it. 1628 01:39:08,568 --> 01:39:09,694 This is it. 1629 01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:11,530 [Cell phone dings] 1630 01:39:17,536 --> 01:39:21,164 [Lauren o'Connor] For your records. November 3rd 2075. 1631 01:39:21,915 --> 01:39:26,419 I ha ve experienced repeated harassment and abuse from the head of this company. 1632 01:39:27,254 --> 01:39:31,174 I am a 28-year-old woman trying to make a living and a career. 1633 01:39:31,842 --> 01:39:33,593 I am a professional. 1634 01:39:33,677 --> 01:39:36,304 I am sexual/zed and diminished 1635 01:39:36,388 --> 01:39:38,682 lha ve been feaiful about speaking up, 1636 01:39:38,765 --> 01:39:42,352 but remaining silent is causing me great distress. 1637 01:39:42,435 --> 01:39:44,271 He told me, ”I'm a bad boy, 1638 01:39:44,354 --> 01:39:47,023 but what's important is that I'm honest about it" 1639 01:39:47,107 --> 01:39:50,777 he said the only thing I was good for was making babies. 1640 01:39:50,861 --> 01:39:55,532 An assistant told me Harvey made her give him a massage while he was naked 1641 01:39:55,615 --> 01:39:58,910 it was horrible to see her so upset 1642 01:39:58,994 --> 01:40:02,581 when / complained to their human resources executive, 1643 01:40:02,664 --> 01:40:08,295 the response was, ”I et us know if he hits you or crosses a line physically ” 1644 01:40:08,378 --> 01:40:12,966 Harvey weinstein is a 64-year-old world-famous man, 1645 01:40:13,049 --> 01:40:15,343 and this is his company 1646 01:40:15,427 --> 01:40:20,515 the balance of po wer is me, zero, Harvey weinstein, ten. 1647 01:40:30,734 --> 01:40:31,860 Go write. 1648 01:40:31,943 --> 01:40:33,069 [Matt] You've got the story. 1649 01:40:33,153 --> 01:40:34,839 Once we publish, everything else will come out. 1650 01:40:34,863 --> 01:40:37,032 - And talk to Lauren o'Connor. - Yeah. 1651 01:40:37,115 --> 01:40:39,534 Get a hold of the weinstein company board for their response. 1652 01:40:39,618 --> 01:40:41,578 Let me call Lance maerov. 1653 01:40:41,661 --> 01:40:43,079 Write it. Let's get ready. 1654 01:40:46,750 --> 01:40:49,002 [Lawyer] My client does not want to be named 1655 01:40:49,085 --> 01:40:51,671 that memo was never for public distribution. 1656 01:40:51,755 --> 01:40:52,756 [Rebecca] Lauren. 1657 01:40:53,465 --> 01:40:56,593 [Lawyer] My client is here, but she is too upset to speak. 1658 01:40:56,676 --> 01:40:59,429 Lauren, I'm sorry this is difficult for you. 1659 01:40:59,512 --> 01:41:01,681 We're not gonna publish the whole memo. 1660 01:41:01,765 --> 01:41:04,893 And we will make it absolutely clear you were not the source 1661 01:41:04,976 --> 01:41:06,603 and that you declined to comment. 1662 01:41:07,354 --> 01:41:10,565 But we do intend to use your name for its credibility. 1663 01:41:11,191 --> 01:41:15,111 If you were a victim of sexual assault, we would absolutely keep your anonymity. 1664 01:41:15,820 --> 01:41:17,656 But as a witness to what went on, 1665 01:41:17,739 --> 01:41:21,117 it would make this story much stronger to name you. 1666 01:41:21,201 --> 01:41:24,079 Hi, Lance. This is Megan twohey from the New York 77mes. 1667 01:41:24,162 --> 01:41:27,374 We have a memo here from Lauren o'Connor to the weinstein company. 1668 01:41:27,457 --> 01:41:28,875 What? Shit. 1669 01:41:28,959 --> 01:41:30,478 We wanna know, what did you do about it? 1670 01:41:30,502 --> 01:41:32,254 What did the board do about it? 1671 01:41:37,717 --> 01:41:38,718 Lance? 1672 01:41:39,719 --> 01:41:43,181 We did try to change things with the police complaint in 2015. 1673 01:41:43,265 --> 01:41:46,017 What about this memo? It was there and then it was gone? 1674 01:41:46,101 --> 01:41:49,521 Look, we were all worried about Harvey's behavior. 1675 01:41:49,604 --> 01:41:51,439 Can I quote you, Lance? 1676 01:41:54,484 --> 01:41:55,485 Yes. 1677 01:41:56,111 --> 01:41:57,737 Yes, you can. 1678 01:41:58,446 --> 01:42:00,115 So, Lauren's complaint? 1679 01:42:03,368 --> 01:42:06,746 It was withdrawn days after it was sent. 1680 01:42:06,830 --> 01:42:08,039 So, yeah, I let it go. 1681 01:42:08,123 --> 01:42:10,083 Well, why do you think it was withdrawn? 1682 01:42:10,875 --> 01:42:12,335 I really don't know why. 1683 01:42:13,586 --> 01:42:16,548 Look, are you sure that this isn't just young women 1684 01:42:16,631 --> 01:42:19,426 who wanna sleep with a movie producer to try to get ahead? 1685 01:42:20,677 --> 01:42:22,846 We have decades of allegations, 1686 01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:26,766 accusations of harassment, assault, rape, 1687 01:42:26,850 --> 01:42:28,601 and multiple settlements. 1688 01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,319 I know you're gonna need to speak to the board, 1689 01:42:33,398 --> 01:42:35,191 but could you wait until after the weekend? 1690 01:42:36,818 --> 01:42:37,902 Is that possible? 1691 01:42:38,528 --> 01:42:39,738 [Clears throat] 1692 01:42:40,822 --> 01:42:41,823 Okay. 1693 01:42:51,124 --> 01:42:52,125 [Jodi] Ashley, 1694 01:42:52,792 --> 01:42:55,587 I know that ideally a lot of women would be jumping together, 1695 01:42:55,670 --> 01:42:57,130 but that's not what's happening. 1696 01:42:58,548 --> 01:43:02,510 But we do have a series of incidents and a predatory pattern. 1697 01:43:03,136 --> 01:43:05,013 You would be coming fonnard alone, 1698 01:43:05,096 --> 01:43:07,932 but you would be standing on a mountain of evidence. 1699 01:43:11,644 --> 01:43:12,687 Ashley? 1700 01:43:13,355 --> 01:43:16,524 Yes. I '/I think about it very seriously, Jodi. 1701 01:43:17,192 --> 01:43:18,526 I promise. 1702 01:43:18,610 --> 01:43:19,861 Thank you, Ashley. 1703 01:43:20,487 --> 01:43:21,654 [Line clicks] 1704 01:43:24,199 --> 01:43:25,742 [Dean] We go with what we have. 1705 01:43:25,825 --> 01:43:28,370 I know we need to be mindful of the new yorker, 1706 01:43:28,453 --> 01:43:31,956 but couldn't we wait just a little longer, just for these women to commit? 1707 01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:33,708 No. We need to publish. 1708 01:43:33,792 --> 01:43:35,627 It's nothing like the whole story. 1709 01:43:35,710 --> 01:43:38,838 This can be the first arrow. More women will come fonnard aftennards. 1710 01:43:39,589 --> 01:43:41,758 It could be so much stronger, Dean. 1711 01:43:42,342 --> 01:43:43,343 It's solid. 1712 01:43:44,135 --> 01:43:45,261 We need to go. 1713 01:43:45,845 --> 01:43:49,349 How much time will we give weinstein to respond? 1714 01:43:49,432 --> 01:43:50,475 Twenty-four hours? 1715 01:43:50,558 --> 01:43:51,601 [Rebecca] I'd double it. 1716 01:43:52,185 --> 01:43:54,020 Forty-eight hours. That's fair. 1717 01:43:54,104 --> 01:43:55,105 [Dean] Two days? 1718 01:43:55,188 --> 01:43:57,399 How many people could Harvey and his team talk to 1719 01:43:57,482 --> 01:43:58,650 in that amount of time? 1720 01:44:00,318 --> 01:44:01,319 David? 1721 01:44:02,237 --> 01:44:03,696 I'd go with Rebecca. 1722 01:44:03,780 --> 01:44:06,157 We want to be irreproachable from the legal side. 1723 01:44:06,241 --> 01:44:07,826 [Dean] Good. Let's call Lanny. 1724 01:44:07,909 --> 01:44:10,620 We'll ask to speak to Harvey and his team at one o'clock tomorrow. 1725 01:44:10,703 --> 01:44:11,871 We'll tell them what we have 1726 01:44:12,455 --> 01:44:16,334 and give him, uh, two days to respond or refute. 1727 01:44:26,886 --> 01:44:29,180 It's midnight. Go home. 1728 01:44:29,264 --> 01:44:30,640 - We will. - Good night. 1729 01:44:30,723 --> 01:44:32,559 [Typing] 1730 01:44:49,868 --> 01:44:52,620 If just one of the women would have gone on the record... 1731 01:44:53,121 --> 01:44:54,747 Why is he taking the tunnel? 1732 01:44:56,249 --> 01:44:58,710 We just needed one woman. 1733 01:44:58,793 --> 01:45:00,503 Jodi. Stop it. 1734 01:45:01,171 --> 01:45:02,172 Let it go. 1735 01:45:09,053 --> 01:45:11,973 Maybe if we had been able to get them all into a room together. 1736 01:45:13,683 --> 01:45:15,518 A room would make no difference. 1737 01:45:16,853 --> 01:45:19,314 They don't wanna go on the record by themselves. 1738 01:45:21,524 --> 01:45:23,067 Would you want to? 1739 01:45:33,369 --> 01:45:35,455 [Sighs] 1740 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:42,921 [Whispers] Hi. 1741 01:45:45,798 --> 01:45:46,883 Yeah. 1742 01:45:50,261 --> 01:45:52,931 Shh, shh, shh, shh... 1743 01:45:53,014 --> 01:45:55,683 - [Cooing] - Shh, shh, shh, shh... 1744 01:46:02,524 --> 01:46:04,442 It's been two fucking hours. 1745 01:46:05,944 --> 01:46:06,945 It's a tactic, 1746 01:46:07,570 --> 01:46:10,031 but I have things to do. 1747 01:46:14,869 --> 01:46:16,663 [Phone ringing] 1748 01:46:22,335 --> 01:46:23,336 Hello? 1749 01:46:23,419 --> 01:46:27,632 [Secretary] Dean? I have Harvey weinstein and his lawyer, Charles harder, for you. 1750 01:46:28,424 --> 01:46:29,717 Okay, let's go, team. 1751 01:46:31,094 --> 01:46:32,887 - You ready? - We're ready. 1752 01:46:34,472 --> 01:46:35,515 Put them through. 1753 01:46:39,727 --> 01:46:41,145 Harvey? 1754 01:46:41,229 --> 01:46:42,522 Charles? 1755 01:46:42,605 --> 01:46:43,606 [Charles] Dean. 1756 01:46:44,482 --> 01:46:46,109 How do you wanna do this, Harvey? 1757 01:46:46,776 --> 01:46:48,653 [Harvey] /don't wanna do this, is what/ want 1758 01:46:48,736 --> 01:46:51,155 are they there? The reporters? 1759 01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:52,532 We're all here. 1760 01:46:53,116 --> 01:46:54,492 [Harvey] Who have you talked to? 1761 01:46:55,827 --> 01:46:58,538 We've sent you who we're covering, Harvey. 1762 01:46:58,621 --> 01:47:00,290 Who have you talked to? 1763 01:47:00,373 --> 01:47:02,292 [Chafienng] 1764 01:47:04,752 --> 01:47:05,896 [Megan] Harvey, we need some... 1765 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,523 [Harvey] Are you talking to Gwyneth Paltrow? 1766 01:47:07,547 --> 01:47:10,216 [Dean] Gwyneth's not in the story, Harvey. 1767 01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:14,137 Why don't you tell me who's on the record and let me respond to that? 1768 01:47:14,220 --> 01:47:15,221 Yeah. 1769 01:47:16,848 --> 01:47:20,685 Harvey, how many settlements have you paid out over the years? 1770 01:47:21,561 --> 01:47:23,605 We were told eight to 12. 1771 01:47:23,688 --> 01:47:26,316 That's you talking. That's not me talking. 1772 01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:30,320 If Lanny spoke, he spoke for himself and not on behalf of his client 1773 01:47:34,782 --> 01:47:37,327 [Charles] How much time are you giving us to respond? 1774 01:47:37,410 --> 01:47:38,828 We need two weeks. 1775 01:47:40,455 --> 01:47:41,998 You'll have two days. 1776 01:47:42,081 --> 01:47:43,750 [Charles] This goes back to the '905. 1777 01:47:43,833 --> 01:47:46,169 [Harvey] If you mess up and don't tell the truth, 1778 01:47:46,252 --> 01:47:48,129 how do you look yourself in the eye? 1779 01:47:48,212 --> 01:47:50,757 It's been 90 minutes, Harvey, and we're gonna wrap it up now. 1780 01:48:03,311 --> 01:48:05,563 [Breathing heavily] 1781 01:48:20,328 --> 01:48:22,830 [Dean] Harve y's just disputed Lanny's eight to 72. 1782 01:48:22,914 --> 01:48:24,165 We have to have corroboration. 1783 01:48:24,248 --> 01:48:26,417 Eight to 12 settlements has to be backed up. 1784 01:48:27,377 --> 01:48:29,229 - Who can you call at the company? - [Cell phone ringing] 1785 01:48:29,253 --> 01:48:30,880 I'll ask David glasser. 1786 01:48:30,963 --> 01:48:32,173 It's Ashley. 1787 01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:36,260 Pick up. Answer it. 1788 01:48:36,344 --> 01:48:37,387 I am. I am. 1789 01:48:40,223 --> 01:48:41,265 Ashley. 1790 01:48:42,642 --> 01:48:44,018 How are you? 1791 01:48:44,102 --> 01:48:46,521 I'm good yeah. I'm good I just went for a run. 1792 01:48:47,313 --> 01:48:49,941 [Jodi] That's great. That's great. Running is good. 1793 01:48:51,442 --> 01:48:52,652 I talked to my lawyer, 1794 01:48:52,735 --> 01:48:55,613 and I've been thinking about what the right thing to do is. 1795 01:48:55,697 --> 01:48:57,198 Yeah. Of course. 1796 01:48:57,782 --> 01:48:58,783 Of course. 1797 01:49:01,994 --> 01:49:02,995 And? 1798 01:49:05,957 --> 01:49:08,751 I'm prepared to be a named source in your investigation. 1799 01:49:10,211 --> 01:49:11,462 I have to... 1800 01:49:12,547 --> 01:49:14,048 As a woman and a Christian. 1801 01:49:20,179 --> 01:49:21,180 [Exhales] 1802 01:49:22,181 --> 01:49:23,182 [Ashley] Jodi? 1803 01:49:24,225 --> 01:49:25,226 Yes. 1804 01:49:26,018 --> 01:49:27,145 We 'i/ speak soon. 1805 01:49:29,188 --> 01:49:30,314 Yes. 1806 01:49:30,398 --> 01:49:31,816 Ashley, thank you. 1807 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:33,484 Thank you. 1808 01:49:35,820 --> 01:49:37,697 Ashley said yes. [Crying] 1809 01:49:38,281 --> 01:49:39,574 She said yes. 1810 01:49:42,118 --> 01:49:43,119 Ashley said yes. 1811 01:49:43,202 --> 01:49:45,913 She did, Jodi. She did. [Laughs] 1812 01:49:45,997 --> 01:49:49,375 Okay. Here we go with the whole damn story. 1813 01:49:49,459 --> 01:49:52,170 [Rebecca] The lede is Ashley judd's account of the peninsula suite. 1814 01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:54,255 Get a good judd quote to end the section. 1815 01:49:54,338 --> 01:49:55,339 I'm on it. 1816 01:49:55,423 --> 01:49:57,633 [Dean] We publish as soon as the piece is in good shape. 1817 01:49:57,717 --> 01:49:59,135 Let's go. 1818 01:50:33,127 --> 01:50:34,754 [Line ringing] 1819 01:50:37,089 --> 01:50:38,466 - Hello? - Hi, David. 1820 01:50:38,549 --> 01:50:41,135 This is Megan twohey from the New York 77mes. 1821 01:50:41,219 --> 01:50:44,259 I thought it was fair to give you, as company president, a chance to comment. 1822 01:50:44,305 --> 01:50:45,745 Are you up to speed with everything? 1823 01:50:47,266 --> 01:50:48,434 I am. 1824 01:50:48,518 --> 01:50:51,020 The board had an emergency conference call. 1825 01:50:51,729 --> 01:50:54,816 David, the eight to 12 settlements, we have conflicting reports. 1826 01:50:54,899 --> 01:50:55,942 We don't need to name you, 1827 01:50:56,025 --> 01:50:58,820 but would you confirm for me that eight to 72 is accurate? 1828 01:50:58,903 --> 01:51:00,029 How many? 1829 01:51:00,613 --> 01:51:03,366 Eight to 12. Are we safe using that figure? 1830 01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:07,537 Eight to 12. 1831 01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:12,834 Uh, yeah. Yes. That's accurate. 1832 01:51:13,417 --> 01:51:15,294 I appreciate it, David. Thank you. 1833 01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:17,880 [Elevator bell dings] 1834 01:51:23,052 --> 01:51:24,387 [Sighs] 1835 01:51:38,276 --> 01:51:40,987 David glasser says yes to eight to 12 settlements. 1836 01:51:43,364 --> 01:51:45,157 [Both laughing] 1837 01:51:45,241 --> 01:51:46,385 [Lanny] It's not enough time. 1838 01:51:46,409 --> 01:51:47,845 - It's not just me here. - [Megan] Right. Yeah. 1839 01:51:47,869 --> 01:51:49,509 - You must know that right? - [Megan] Yep. 1840 01:51:49,537 --> 01:51:50,997 I understand it's difficult. 1841 01:51:51,956 --> 01:51:53,583 What's happening? Is Harvey on the phone? 1842 01:51:53,666 --> 01:51:56,335 It's Lanny. Weinstein is refusing to give a response. 1843 01:51:56,419 --> 01:51:57,753 - [Megan] Okay. - [Lanny] Right? 1844 01:51:57,837 --> 01:52:00,089 [Megan] Yeah. No, Lanny, I hear you. 1845 01:52:00,172 --> 01:52:02,925 Listen, I can't pull a rabbit out of a hat here. 1846 01:52:03,009 --> 01:52:04,510 We need more time. 1847 01:52:04,594 --> 01:52:05,634 Here's the thing, Megan... 1848 01:52:05,678 --> 01:52:06,846 Lanny, I'm sick of this shit. 1849 01:52:06,929 --> 01:52:09,009 You've got five different lawyers reaching out to us. 1850 01:52:09,056 --> 01:52:11,058 We're not talking to five different lawyers. 1851 01:52:11,142 --> 01:52:14,604 Get your people in line and get back to us with your response. 1852 01:52:21,819 --> 01:52:23,696 This is not a response. This is a novel. 1853 01:52:23,779 --> 01:52:26,657 They call the women liars and the journalism false. 1854 01:52:26,741 --> 01:52:28,701 It's legalistic bullying. 1855 01:52:28,784 --> 01:52:31,370 I sent back three paragraphs to counter their 18 pages. 1856 01:52:31,454 --> 01:52:32,830 I've asked for their data. 1857 01:52:32,914 --> 01:52:35,541 - And I invite them to court. - Let's see how long 1858 01:52:35,625 --> 01:52:37,668 - before they get back to us. - [Cell phone buzzes] 1859 01:52:39,503 --> 01:52:40,671 Waiting time's up. 1860 01:52:40,755 --> 01:52:42,798 Weinstein wants to meet. He's on his way here. 1861 01:52:43,382 --> 01:52:44,383 Do we let him in? 1862 01:52:47,678 --> 01:52:48,679 Let him in. 1863 01:52:49,472 --> 01:52:50,473 I've got this. 1864 01:53:01,192 --> 01:53:02,443 -Hi, Lisa. 1865 01:53:02,526 --> 01:53:03,986 - Is this everyone? - Yep. 1866 01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:05,363 [Megan] Okay, follow me. 1867 01:53:09,784 --> 01:53:12,137 - That's what you're gonna do. - Only five. Come on. We've got folders. 1868 01:53:12,161 --> 01:53:13,746 We have the folders. We've got evidence. 1869 01:53:13,829 --> 01:53:15,581 You're a good writer, Megan. 1870 01:53:15,665 --> 01:53:18,668 [Harvey] Are you really willing to stake your reputation on this story? 1871 01:53:18,751 --> 01:53:22,046 - She's smiling. Everybody looks happy. - Would you smile if this happened to you? 1872 01:53:22,129 --> 01:53:24,715 None of these women are credible witnesses. 1873 01:53:24,799 --> 01:53:26,050 How's this one? 1874 01:53:26,133 --> 01:53:27,718 [Harvey] She's a nut. 1875 01:53:27,802 --> 01:53:29,428 She's a shakedown artist. 1876 01:53:29,512 --> 01:53:31,263 [Chafienng] 1877 01:53:59,834 --> 01:54:01,377 [Jodi] Is it there? Is it online? 1878 01:54:01,460 --> 01:54:03,462 Yes. They have it too. 1879 01:54:03,546 --> 01:54:04,588 So it's in both. 1880 01:54:06,841 --> 01:54:07,842 What happened? 1881 01:54:08,968 --> 01:54:10,594 What you'd expect. 1882 01:54:10,678 --> 01:54:12,596 Trying to discredit the actresses. 1883 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:13,681 What's wrong? 1884 01:54:14,682 --> 01:54:17,935 Harvey and his team have spoken to variety and Hollywood reporter 1885 01:54:18,561 --> 01:54:20,646 - what? - About us and the story. 1886 01:54:20,730 --> 01:54:23,607 He claims to be surprised by it. 1887 01:54:24,358 --> 01:54:25,735 This is bad. 1888 01:54:27,028 --> 01:54:30,114 You have to write fast. We've just lost any privacy. 1889 01:54:31,741 --> 01:54:33,367 Let me see the lede. 1890 01:54:33,451 --> 01:54:34,785 [Typing] 1891 01:54:41,250 --> 01:54:43,836 [Jodi] All I think is we have to lead with this. 1892 01:54:43,919 --> 01:54:45,713 That has to be at the top of the paragraph. 1893 01:54:45,796 --> 01:54:48,557 - I think it's fine as two, don't you? - [Rebecca] I think it's right. 1894 01:54:50,259 --> 01:54:52,887 Go home. I'll check this. 1895 01:54:55,097 --> 01:54:56,098 Really? 1896 01:55:15,201 --> 01:55:17,012 [News anchor] And the y're really appealing to people. 1897 01:55:17,036 --> 01:55:19,371 If you know anything, please come forward 1898 01:55:33,135 --> 01:55:35,322 [H arvey] Why shouldn't I just do a fucking interview right now 1899 01:55:35,346 --> 01:55:38,516 with the Washington post based on your lack of transparency? 1900 01:55:38,599 --> 01:55:41,477 You want some sort of list of who we're talking to for this story, 1901 01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,647 and if we don't disclose it to you, you're threatening us? 1902 01:55:44,730 --> 01:55:46,982 If you're using Gwyneth Paltrow, tell me. 1903 01:55:47,066 --> 01:55:49,026 We're not using Gwyneth Paltrow. 1904 01:55:49,110 --> 01:55:51,195 Are you talking to Gwyneth Paltrow? 1905 01:55:52,905 --> 01:55:54,907 Hey, Harvey. This is Dean. Here's the deal. 1906 01:55:54,990 --> 01:55:57,993 You need to give us your statement now. I'm about to push the button. 1907 01:55:58,077 --> 01:56:00,496 Dean, let me tell you something about intimidation. 1908 01:56:00,579 --> 01:56:02,039 I'll talk to the post. I will 1909 01:56:02,123 --> 01:56:03,666 call them. That's fine. 1910 01:56:03,749 --> 01:56:05,376 You can call the post 1911 01:56:05,459 --> 01:56:07,294 Harvey, I'm trying to be fair with you. 1912 01:56:07,378 --> 01:56:08,838 You are intimidating me, Dean. 1913 01:56:08,921 --> 01:56:11,674 No, I'm trying to get your statement. Please, give it to us now. 1914 01:56:11,757 --> 01:56:13,759 We're about to publish. 1915 01:56:13,843 --> 01:56:16,095 - I want to give it to you. - Thank you. 1916 01:56:16,178 --> 01:56:17,513 Is Gwyneth in it? 1917 01:56:17,596 --> 01:56:19,098 [Both] She's not in the story. 1918 01:56:19,181 --> 01:56:21,433 So here's what we need to do, Harvey. 1919 01:56:22,268 --> 01:56:24,854 We wanna give you every word that you wanna say. 1920 01:56:25,646 --> 01:56:26,772 So say it. 1921 01:56:27,439 --> 01:56:30,192 I also have a newspaper to put out. I'm gonna walk out. 1922 01:56:30,276 --> 01:56:32,278 Talk to my reporters. Take care. 1923 01:56:33,362 --> 01:56:34,405 Good luck. 1924 01:56:34,488 --> 01:56:37,366 [Lisa] You have a reckless disregard for the truth. 1925 01:56:37,449 --> 01:56:41,078 You want a hit story, and these allegations are false. 1926 01:56:41,162 --> 01:56:43,455 We don't want a hit story, Lisa. 1927 01:56:43,539 --> 01:56:46,750 Harvey's going to take some time off to focus on this issue. 1928 01:56:48,377 --> 01:56:49,545 Are you, Harvey? 1929 01:56:50,337 --> 01:56:52,673 [Harvey] Yes, I'm gonna take time ofif 1930 01:56:53,382 --> 01:56:54,884 from the company? 1931 01:56:55,551 --> 01:56:58,554 Yes. I wanna spend some time learning. 1932 01:56:58,637 --> 01:57:01,757 - [Lisa] Learning and listening to me. - He's going to take a leave of absence. 1933 01:57:02,516 --> 01:57:04,101 Double space here. 1934 01:57:04,977 --> 01:57:06,979 - And here. - [Cell phone buzzing] 1935 01:57:07,563 --> 01:57:08,647 It's Laura. 1936 01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,444 Hi. Laura, how are you? 1937 01:57:14,195 --> 01:57:17,281 Yes, I'm okay 1938 01:57:17,364 --> 01:57:18,449 today's my surgery. 1939 01:57:19,074 --> 01:57:20,701 I'm about to go in. 1940 01:57:20,784 --> 01:57:25,039 Um, look, I never signed any contract. 1941 01:57:25,831 --> 01:57:27,374 I'm not gagged, 1942 01:57:28,083 --> 01:57:31,545 and I want to speak out on behalf of the women who can't. 1943 01:57:33,505 --> 01:57:34,715 I have three daughters, 1944 01:57:34,798 --> 01:57:38,594 and I don't want them to ever accept abuse or bullying as normal. 1945 01:57:40,054 --> 01:57:42,556 You can use anything I've said 1946 01:57:43,224 --> 01:57:44,433 I'll do it. 1947 01:57:45,601 --> 01:57:47,561 I'll go on the record. 1948 01:57:49,855 --> 01:57:50,981 Thank you, Laura. 1949 01:57:52,358 --> 01:57:53,359 Thank you. 1950 01:57:55,069 --> 01:57:56,695 I'll be thinking of you. 1951 01:58:01,533 --> 01:58:02,868 [Sighs] 1952 01:58:07,122 --> 01:58:08,916 - Oh, Laura. - [Laughs] 1953 01:58:08,999 --> 01:58:11,043 Oh, beautiful, beautiful Laura. 1954 01:58:24,431 --> 01:58:25,891 [Nurse] Are you okay, Laura? 1955 01:58:25,975 --> 01:58:28,477 [Laughs] Yes. I'm fine. 1956 01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:29,561 Thank you. 1957 01:58:31,313 --> 01:58:32,690 I really am. 1958 01:59:00,759 --> 01:59:02,261 [Chafienng] 1959 01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:51,852 Their statements are in. I'm pulling quotes. 1960 01:59:53,562 --> 01:59:54,563 Yep. 1961 01:59:59,276 --> 02:00:01,487 [So, do you... okay. You're so good. Uaughs] 1962 02:00:20,839 --> 02:00:23,092 - Have you pulled the quotes? - I'm doing it now. 1963 02:00:39,316 --> 02:00:40,734 It's ready to go. 1964 02:00:40,818 --> 02:00:43,946 Let's read it together one last time. 1965 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:19,481 Yeah. 1966 02:01:20,023 --> 02:01:21,066 One second. 1967 02:01:25,154 --> 02:01:26,280 Yeah. 1968 02:01:27,406 --> 02:01:28,407 Okay? 1969 02:01:30,409 --> 02:01:31,410 [Dean] Okay? 1970 02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:39,293 [Mouse clicks] 1971 02:01:41,628 --> 02:01:42,963 [Mouse clicks] 1972 02:01:53,724 --> 02:01:55,267 [Mouse clicks] 140739

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