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Violet: When you make a promise
to the old people,
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you don´t break that promise.
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You have to live that promise.
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"Find her, bring her home."
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Those were
my grandmother´s instructions.
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Many have been lost.
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Many have been murdered.
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It´s still happening.
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[ Camera shutter clicking ]
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Steve: She´d been stabbed
more than 28 times.
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She had no I.D. with her,
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no indication of who she was,
where she came from.
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They´re someone´s sister,
possibly someone´s wife.
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And there´s got to be people
out there that knew them.
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Ratliff:
There really wasn´t anyone
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that called to inquire
about her.
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The case grew cold.
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
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You cannot dispute DNA evidence.
You just can´t.
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Soosay:
I´ve been looking for 40 years.
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You don´t give up.
You can´t stop.
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We couldn´t imagine, you know,
"What happened?"
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Where´d you go?
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♫♫
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♫♫
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♫♫
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♫♫
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My name is Steve Rhods.
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I´m a detective
for the Ventura County
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District Attorney´s Office,
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and I´m assigned
to the Cold Case Unit.
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When I open a cold case,
I go straight to the evidence.
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What kind of evidence
do we have?
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So it was July the 15th, 1980.
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The Kern County Sheriff´s Office
was summoned
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to an almond orchard
off the Highway 99,
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just outside
of the town of Delano.
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♫♫
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There they encountered a female,
fully clothed,
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lying in the orchard.
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She had no I.D. with her,
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no indication of who she was,
where she came from.
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Lying near her on the ground
was a beer bottle
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and a pack of cigarettes,
some tire tracks.
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And that was the extent
of the evidence
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other than what was confined
to her body.
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Later, they did an autopsy
on this woman
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who we refer to
as Jane Doe Kern County.
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They found that she´d been
stabbed more than 28 times.
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Her blood alcohol was 0.3.
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So she was quite intoxicated
at the time of the assault.
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And the medical examiner felt
that this was a forced assault.
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Her sneakers
were pristine, white.
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There was no blood
on the top of her sneakers.
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She had been stabbed lying down
and she never stood up.
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Blood never drained
onto her feet,
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so the presumption was that
she was killed elsewhere,
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brought to that orchard
and left in the orchard.
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[ Bird squawks ]
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I´m Dawn Ratliff, and I
am the coroner division chief
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for the Kern County Sheriff
Coroner´s Office.
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Her cause of death
was multiple stab wounds.
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There were also evidence
of defensive wounds.
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Once cause and manner
of death is established,
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one of the very first priorities
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is for us to complete
an identification
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and then to find family members
and notify them about the death.
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We fingerprinted and there were
no prints on file.
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That´s where her case
got more difficult.
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Steve: Evidence was collected
from Jane Doe Kern,
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and they preserved it and kept
all that stuff in a freezer.
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Ratliff: My first thought is,
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"She is somebody
that someone should miss,"
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but there really wasn´t anyone
that called to inquire
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about her, so she remained
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Jane Doe,
Kern County, number five.
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♫♫
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♫♫
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Violet: Family is very important
in our community
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and in the indigenous community.
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Looking out for each other
and checking in on each other.
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I´ll make bannock and check
on the brothers.
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So family has always
been important to us.
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My name is Violet Soosay.
That´s my English name.
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My Cree name is
[speaks native language]
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And I´ve been looking
for my aunt
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since I was in my early 20s.
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Shirley was very light-hearted,
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very gentle,
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I used to have real curly hair.
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And I would run when somebody
had a comb or a brush.
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Not Shirley.
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Shirley was one I would trust.
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And she was always
combing my hair.
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She always made me
feel very special.
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I would cross the field
just to go see her every day
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because I was
so connected with her.
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Yeah. I really loved her.
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Really, really loved her.
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[ Birds chirping ]
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In the early ´70s,
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because a lot of us
were in poverty,
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more people were
venturing off the reserve,
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moving to urban centers.
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Shirley had this vision
of helping her mom
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financially by
working off reserve.
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That was her thinking.
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I think she liked living away
from the reserve
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because she was like
a free spirit.
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So she just lived
her life in Vancouver.
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However, Shirley was
really meticulous.
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She would send Christmas cards,
birthday cards,
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letters constantly to her mom.
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And I´m pretty sure
it was December of ´79
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that my grandmother
didn´t receive a Christmas card.
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March of 1980, she didn´t
receive her birthday card.
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And that´s when she said,
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"Something´s going on.
Something´s wrong."
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We couldn´t imagine,
you know, "What happened?
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Where´d you go?"
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And it was about a year later,
in 1981,
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when my grandmother
told my Auntie Belle and myself
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to look for her
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and promise her
to bring her home.
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"Find her, bring her home."
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♫♫
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♫♫
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[ Waves crashing ]
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♫♫
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Steve: I became a policeman
back in my youth
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with the sheriff´s office
here in Ventura County,
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became a detective,
first in Property Crimes,
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and then later
I moved into Homicide.
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And when I retired in 2012,
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I was invited to come back
to the Cold Case unit.
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I enjoy a good problem.
I enjoy solving the problem.
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I specifically enjoy
looking out for our victims.
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They´ve been wronged.
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Someone needs to speak for them,
and that´s what I choose to do.
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Jane Doe Kerns -- one
of a number of investigations
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that I´m working on.
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On July 18, 1980,
at about 12:35 in the afternoon,
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Ventura County Sheriff´s Patrol
deputies were dispatched
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to a report of a dead body
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in the parking lot
of Westlake High School.
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She had no purse, no I.D.,
no jewelry.
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Obvious stab wounds
were visible on her chest
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and on her arms.
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At the time, at 1980,
there was no DNA.
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Pretty much all
the investigators could do
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was interview the people
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that were attending
the football game nearby
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and take photographs.
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Later in the day,
they conducted an autopsy.
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They had documented 23
physical injuries to her body,
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13 of which were stab wounds.
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She was three months´ pregnant.
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There was evidence
of forced sexual assault.
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Attempts were made at the time
to identify
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Jane Doe Ventura through
fingerprints with no results.
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Missing-person reports
were scanned
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through several states
and no results.
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And that murder
had occurred three days
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after Jane Doe Kern County
was found.
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♫♫
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♫♫
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Violet: To not know what had
happened with Shirley
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was really difficult.
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In 1981, when I went to look for
help from police enforcement,
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we were just told, "Oh, probably
just another dead Indian."
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Just another dead Indian.
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That´s what I was told.
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We were looked at
as if we were nothing, you know?
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That´s when I learned
early on in our search
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that they were not
going to help us.
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I knew I had to keep
searching for Shirley.
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I made a promise
to my grandmother
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that I would find her
and bring her home.
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Periodically over the years,
my aunt Belle and I,
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as long as we had gas,
we had food,
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and we had money for lodging,
we´d set off.
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The trip to Vancouver
would take us 12 hours.
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We never stopped overnight
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because the less time
you spend in a motel,
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the more time
you´ll be looking, right?
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First time, you know,
there was that excitement of,
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"Oh, we´ll find her.
You know, we can do this."
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And after the first trip,
you know,
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you start realizing like,
"Oh, my goodness."
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You go into the city and you see
all these buildings
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and all these people.
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It was overwhelming.
It was like,
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"Oh, my God,
where are we going to look?"
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Who are we going to talk to?"
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It is a huge city.
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And how in the heck
are you gonna look into
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every nook and cranny?
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In Vancouver,
there´s a lot of alleys.
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It was scary,
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just the enormity
of what we were trying to do.
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But, you know, we became more
street-pounding after a while.
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And we´d always be looking
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for indigenous people
on the streets.
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If it was safe enough
to get out, we´d get out.
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Once in a while,
there´d be Cree.
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So we´d be speaking
our language to them
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and asking them if they seen
Shirley or knew of her.
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It was really heartbreaking
to turn around
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and come back empty-handed.
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No new information to share
with my grandmother.
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I think that´s the one
that really gets to me.
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She was the matriarch.
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You know, you don´t go against
the words and the expectations
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of your matriarch.
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And to tell her
that we didn´t find her,
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next time, you know...
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you´d known
she was disappointed many times.
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[ Sniffling ]
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♫♫
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Then...she would just shut her
lights off and sit in the dark.
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And I know that she was crying.
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♫♫
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♫♫
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Steve:
In 1980, evidence collection
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was limited to tire impressions,
fingerprints.
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Take a picture, write a report,
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go out and talk to somebody.
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Bring your handy-dandy
little notebook with you.
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DNA hadn´t been invented yet.
There was no DNA.
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Today we have DNA.
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It´s the magic bullet
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for identifying
everything and everybody.
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You know,
we´re sitting here right now.
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We´re dropping DNA
all over the room.
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You leave, I can come in here
and vacuum all this up now
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and identify you.
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For me,
when I review a cold case,
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if there´s anything
that is remotely DNA,
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I´m gonna take the case.
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You cannot dispute DNA evidence.
You just can´t.
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[ Dog barking ]
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Violet: I started searching
for Shirley online
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in the early 2000s.
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The idea of looking
for somebody online
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was new for me at that time.
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In the beginning, it was more
or less just obituaries.
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Just kind of scaling it down
to Soosay...
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and years.
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No, there was nothing
that I could ever find there.
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Unless you have access
to police-enforcement websites,
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you have no way of trying
to get any case files.
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I don´t have that clearance.
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So that one shut down
pretty quick.
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Growing up, my mom
always shared stories.
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Always, always, always
shared stories with us kids
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about Shirley.
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It´s been, like, a whole range
of emotions for my mom.
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Violet: When it comes
to indigenous people,
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they´re almost, like, shoved
over to the side.
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You start looking
for missing persons, you know.
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Most of them were
non-indigenous.
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"What can I do different?
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Where do I go from here?"
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Governor Arnold
Schwarzenegger in California
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is a big backer
of the DNA databank idea.
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How will it work?
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Walsh: Proposition 69
in California
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takes
mandatory collection
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of every convicted
felon´s DNA.
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There´s over
a million DNA kits
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in the California database.
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And in January
of next year,
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they´re gonna take the DNA
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of everybody arrested
for a felony.
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They solve four to five
unsolved cases a day
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in California because of
Governor Schwarzenegger´s bill.
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Passed Proposition 69,
giving law enforcement
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the state-of-the-art tools
for crack down on criminals.
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This is the card
that says that
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you´re giving us
your blood and saliva.
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Reporter: Under California law,
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all felons convicted
of violent crimes,
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sexual crimes,
burglaries, carjackings
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and arsons
must provide DNA samples.
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Steve: We had submitted Jane Doe
Ventura´s hats, panties,
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fingernails for DNA profiling.
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And then we uploaded that
profile into a national database
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that we call CODIS.
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In 2012, a hit comes back
to Wilson Chouest.
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♫♫
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We´re also informed that
he´s a match to Kern County.
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So we started working both cases
at the same time.
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Reporter:
Back in 1980, they had the DNA,
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but it wasn´t until recently
that scientists could link it
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to the man they think
is responsible
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for dead bodies popping up
in Southern California.
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This is Mr. Wilson Chouest,
a U.S. Army veteran
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discharged with heroin problems.
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Steve: Wilson Chouest
is a convicted rapist.
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While he´s in prison,
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he´s required to provide
a DNA sample,
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which is uploaded
into the DNA database.
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That database hits
on the Jane Doe Kern County
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and the Jane Doe Ventura case.
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Wilson Chouest is our guy.
No doubt about it.
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We just have to interview
Wilson Chouest
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and find out what his story is.
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We have a bunch of photographs
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that we have downloaded
from the Internet,
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photos of random people,
and we´re going, "Okay,
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this rape happened
at a post office
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along the 101 freeway."
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And Wilson immediately says,
"I was in custody at that time."
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"Okay, then you didn´t
do that one.
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Well, this one happened
when you were in custody, too.
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You didn´t do that one."
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We´re building a rapport
with Chouest.
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Then we show him the picture
of Jane Doe Ventura County.
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This one happened near a parking
lot called Westlake High School
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along the 101.
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Wilson won´t even
look at her picture.
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He says to us, "I don´t even
know where the 101 freeway is."
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Wilson Chouest´s lived
his entire adult life
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in the San Fernando Valley.
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You cannot go from one end
of the San Fernando Valley
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to the other end without driving
on the 101 freeway.
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You just can´t.
So that´s a lie.
329
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I need to get the truth.
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Better, I need to get a lie.
331
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I can prove the truth,
but I can really prove the lie.
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We have the DNA.
We know who he is.
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We needed Wilson to tell us
who they were,
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where he got them,
and he refused to acknowledge
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he had anything to do with that.
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Two or three days later,
I went down to the jail
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and arrested him
for the murders.
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Reporter:
Mr. Chouest was arrested
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for murder this morning.
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Sheriff: The mainstay is to try
to identify who these women are
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because
they´re someone´s sister,
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possibly someone´s wife.
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There´s got to be people
out there that knew them.
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And we want to bring closure
to that family
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and so that they understand
346
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what happened to their mom
or their sister
347
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or their daughter when she
didn´t come home that day.
348
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[ Dog barking ]
349
00:21:56,086 --> 00:21:58,046
Hi, Mom.
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Mm-hmm. I´m just looking
at these pictures
351
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because these are the main ones
that we have
352
00:22:04,354 --> 00:22:05,704
of Auntie Shirley.
353
00:22:05,696 --> 00:22:07,426
I think this one
is my favorite.
354
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Yeah, I think that´s
everyone´s favorite.
355
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And it was during release
356
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from residential school
for summer,
357
00:22:14,835 --> 00:22:17,865
and the girls
all took picture.
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This is Auntie Shirley,
my sister Lillian,
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my sister Pat.
360
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And then, of course,
there´s my dad.
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These are all
residential-school boys.
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00:22:28,649 --> 00:22:29,979
Yeah.
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Violet: The residential school
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was to take the Indian
out of the child,
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and it started in the late
1800s right up to 1996.
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So that´s, like, a whole century
367
00:22:42,963 --> 00:22:47,773
of removing children
from the traditional homes.
368
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And so there was
a great disconnect.
369
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And you can see the hats
that they wore.
370
00:22:53,043 --> 00:22:54,883
Yeah,
that´s pretty neat.
371
00:22:54,875 --> 00:22:56,375
I don´t even know
what they call them,
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but I remember
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that they used
to wear those a lot.
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The residential school
was a breeding ground
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for sexual abuse,
for psychological abuse,
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00:23:10,621 --> 00:23:12,391
physical abuse.
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So those are the realities
that we had to face.
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A lot of them have
turned to alcoholism,
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have turned to drugs.
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00:23:22,072 --> 00:23:28,182
So those residential schools --
yes, they educated us,
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00:23:28,178 --> 00:23:35,088
but they did more damage
than good for the majority.
382
00:23:35,085 --> 00:23:38,115
You know, my mom died
two years ago.
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00:23:38,118 --> 00:23:42,988
She never, ever hugged
or kissed us
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00:23:42,993 --> 00:23:46,063
because she was
in residential school.
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00:23:46,056 --> 00:23:50,496
It wasn´t until she shared
that my heart opened up
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00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,130
and understood why she did
the things that she did.
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00:23:56,466 --> 00:24:00,606
I was in residential school,
but I was fortunate
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00:24:00,611 --> 00:24:03,471
that my father
sent me to my grandparents
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00:24:03,473 --> 00:24:06,923
to have, like, a cultural
immersion for two years
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00:24:06,917 --> 00:24:10,947
to come back to know who I was.
391
00:24:10,951 --> 00:24:16,831
I still have to deal
with...memories, you know.
392
00:24:16,827 --> 00:24:20,827
A lot of PTSD
from residential school.
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00:24:22,132 --> 00:24:26,802
So in raising my children,
I talk about the history.
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00:24:26,797 --> 00:24:29,997
I talk about what transpired.
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00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,600
But you only have
to speak the truth.
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00:24:33,604 --> 00:24:36,054
There´s been a lot
of intergenerational traumas
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00:24:36,046 --> 00:24:38,576
that have been
passed down.
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00:24:38,579 --> 00:24:42,179
Like, every day we are learning
about our own history
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00:24:42,182 --> 00:24:46,892
and our bloodlines
and what our family
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00:24:46,887 --> 00:24:49,157
and our ancestors
have gone through.
401
00:24:49,159 --> 00:24:54,799
And you carry that...
forever.
402
00:24:54,795 --> 00:24:57,065
And until
you become a parent
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00:24:57,067 --> 00:25:00,067
and until you become,
you know, aware
404
00:25:00,070 --> 00:25:05,810
of how those things
have impacted you,
405
00:25:05,806 --> 00:25:08,906
you know, is when you have
the power to change that.
406
00:25:08,909 --> 00:25:10,539
And for me,
still to this day,
407
00:25:10,541 --> 00:25:13,641
I struggle with
my own parenting.
408
00:25:13,644 --> 00:25:15,694
But I know I´m --
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00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,686
I´m a really good parent
for my own children.
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00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:20,149
Mm-hmm.
411
00:25:20,150 --> 00:25:22,550
Man: Hi, there.
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00:25:22,553 --> 00:25:24,153
Hi, Lily.
413
00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:26,604
-Hi.
-Hi. You okay?
414
00:25:26,597 --> 00:25:27,897
Yeah.
415
00:25:27,898 --> 00:25:29,698
Do you want a snack
to take upstairs?
416
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:31,230
Yeah.
Okay.
417
00:25:33,964 --> 00:25:37,544
Justice: Something I´ve always
been really grateful for
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00:25:37,538 --> 00:25:40,608
is my mom,
because I understand and I know
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00:25:40,611 --> 00:25:44,581
that life could have been
so different for us,
420
00:25:44,575 --> 00:25:46,315
for me, for my own kids.
421
00:25:46,316 --> 00:25:52,676
♫♫
422
00:25:52,683 --> 00:25:56,193
[ Bird squawks ]
423
00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:04,740
♫♫
424
00:26:04,735 --> 00:26:07,335
Steve: After we had arrested
Wilson Chouest
425
00:26:07,337 --> 00:26:11,597
for the murders of the Does,
I felt,
426
00:26:11,602 --> 00:26:13,302
"Yeah, this case
is ready to be filed.
427
00:26:13,303 --> 00:26:16,013
We need to take this
to the D.A."
428
00:26:16,006 --> 00:26:20,606
and that´s when I met
D.A. John Barrick.
429
00:26:20,611 --> 00:26:23,281
John: So I was sitting
in my office one day,
430
00:26:23,283 --> 00:26:27,923
and my boss came to me and said,
"Hey, there´s this case.
431
00:26:27,918 --> 00:26:32,088
The investigators really want
someone to take a look at it.
432
00:26:32,092 --> 00:26:34,872
Would you mind
coming to a meeting
433
00:26:34,865 --> 00:26:37,195
and listening to their pitch?"
434
00:26:37,197 --> 00:26:39,897
They start off with kind of
talking about the facts
435
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,270
of the case, the, you know,
the crime scene itself.
436
00:26:42,272 --> 00:26:44,682
There wasn´t a lot of evidence
at the crime scene.
437
00:26:44,675 --> 00:26:46,305
There were no eyewitnesses
at all.
438
00:26:46,306 --> 00:26:49,936
But then very early on
in the presentation,
439
00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:51,780
he started talking
about the DNA,
440
00:26:51,782 --> 00:26:54,722
that they were able to find
semen stains on the underpants
441
00:26:54,715 --> 00:26:57,945
from the victim
in Ventura County, get a ratio,
442
00:26:57,948 --> 00:27:00,388
and got a hit to Wilson Chouest.
443
00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:03,320
And I just sort of put my pen
down and stopped taking notes.
444
00:27:03,323 --> 00:27:05,933
And for me, I was like,
"Well, there it is."
445
00:27:05,926 --> 00:27:08,356
I noticed that John had stopped
taking notes.
446
00:27:08,358 --> 00:27:09,958
For me,
that was kind of troubling.
447
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,000
I was like,
"Oh, I´ve lost him."
448
00:27:12,002 --> 00:27:15,012
When you do jury trials,
and I´ve done quite a few,
449
00:27:15,005 --> 00:27:17,405
there´s -- there´s two types
of evidence that jurors
450
00:27:17,407 --> 00:27:21,737
just love --
surveillance video and DNA.
451
00:27:21,742 --> 00:27:25,382
And for me, if you have
either one, you take a shot.
452
00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:28,375
I don´t want to play poker
against John Barrick.
453
00:27:28,378 --> 00:27:30,818
And when we got all done,
he stood up and said,
454
00:27:30,821 --> 00:27:32,381
"Sounds good to me.
Bring it down to my office.
455
00:27:32,382 --> 00:27:34,152
I´ll file it."
456
00:27:34,154 --> 00:27:36,894
I was kind of blown away.
457
00:27:36,887 --> 00:27:40,387
It was during that meeting
that they mentioned
458
00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:45,300
that there was another Jane Doe
from Kern County
459
00:27:45,295 --> 00:27:48,165
three days earlier,
same situation --
460
00:27:48,168 --> 00:27:50,968
again, rape, murdered,
unidentified.
461
00:27:50,971 --> 00:27:52,671
I said,
"Well, what are the odds
462
00:27:52,673 --> 00:27:54,373
you have these
two unidentified victims
463
00:27:54,374 --> 00:27:57,384
in two separate counties
and their rape-murders occur
464
00:27:57,377 --> 00:28:00,847
three days apart by a suspect
who´s -- who´s a known
465
00:28:00,851 --> 00:28:04,791
serial rapist serving time
in prison for serial rape?"
466
00:28:04,785 --> 00:28:06,685
That just seems like
a no-brainer to me.
467
00:28:06,687 --> 00:28:08,287
I´m gonna take the shot
with that.
468
00:28:08,288 --> 00:28:11,758
That´s how we ultimately decided
to file both cases
469
00:28:11,762 --> 00:28:13,022
in Ventura County.
470
00:28:16,727 --> 00:28:18,227
The trial itself
took about a month.
471
00:28:21,872 --> 00:28:25,012
The evidence, for the most part,
went as planned.
472
00:28:25,005 --> 00:28:28,175
Not only did we have the semen,
but you had separate DNA,
473
00:28:28,178 --> 00:28:29,978
one from a beer bottle
in Kern County
474
00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:34,410
and the fingernails from
the victim in Ventura County.
475
00:28:34,414 --> 00:28:36,424
When you´re doing a jury trial,
you´re trying to convince
476
00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:39,216
12 strangers
beyond a reasonable doubt
477
00:28:39,219 --> 00:28:43,249
that what you think
the evidence shows is true.
478
00:28:43,253 --> 00:28:45,003
And that can be very difficult,
479
00:28:44,995 --> 00:28:47,095
just trying to get 12 people
to agree on anything.
480
00:28:47,097 --> 00:28:51,957
So it´s a very stressful time
when you´re a prosecutor.
481
00:28:51,962 --> 00:28:54,872
Ventura County decided
to prosecute both cases,
482
00:28:54,865 --> 00:28:56,235
doubling their workload,
483
00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:58,306
but giving both victims
a shot at justice.
484
00:28:58,308 --> 00:29:00,838
Nearly 40 years
after the murders,
485
00:29:00,841 --> 00:29:02,311
the victims got just that.
486
00:29:18,488 --> 00:29:20,428
Reporter: And with that,
Wilson Chouest
487
00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:23,990
was sentenced to life without
the possibility of parole.
488
00:29:23,994 --> 00:29:26,044
Steve: I would have
really been shocked
489
00:29:26,036 --> 00:29:28,396
if that jury had come back
not guilty on anything,
490
00:29:28,398 --> 00:29:31,268
but it was like, "Well, thank
you. You know, I did my job.
491
00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:33,171
You did your job.
We´re all happy.
492
00:29:33,173 --> 00:29:36,913
Wilson is where
he belongs -- in prison."
493
00:29:36,907 --> 00:29:40,377
John: It´s sort of foreign to
prosecutors to do a murder trial
494
00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:44,150
where there is no family
for the victim in the courtroom.
495
00:29:44,154 --> 00:29:45,424
And I guess the feeling is like,
496
00:29:45,415 --> 00:29:47,955
"If we don´t have
that familial support,
497
00:29:47,958 --> 00:29:50,488
that maybe the jury
won´t care about the case."
498
00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:52,560
But I actually found that
to be quite the opposite.
499
00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:54,803
Like, it made them care
even more.
500
00:29:54,795 --> 00:29:57,465
Because the identity
of the victims was unknown,
501
00:29:57,467 --> 00:29:59,427
they became their advocates.
502
00:29:59,429 --> 00:30:01,869
It kept sinking in deeper
and deeper to me
503
00:30:01,872 --> 00:30:03,432
that I have to be their family.
504
00:30:03,433 --> 00:30:05,083
We have to be their family.
505
00:30:05,075 --> 00:30:08,135
We have to be their voice
and see this to the end.
506
00:30:08,138 --> 00:30:09,838
Doing this trial was probably
507
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,440
one of the most important
things I´ve done in my life.
508
00:30:12,442 --> 00:30:15,392
Steve: Our true calling
is to the victim.
509
00:30:15,385 --> 00:30:17,845
That´s who we´re
looking out for.
510
00:30:17,848 --> 00:30:21,518
And these two women
were ignored in life
511
00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:23,152
and ignored in death.
512
00:30:23,153 --> 00:30:25,063
Just because
they didn´t have a name,
513
00:30:25,055 --> 00:30:28,995
those women didn´t deserve
any of that.
514
00:30:28,999 --> 00:30:31,399
They should be treated
just like everybody else.
515
00:30:31,401 --> 00:30:34,231
Reporter: While many others may
feel their job would be done
516
00:30:34,234 --> 00:30:37,014
at this point,
Rhods is different.
517
00:30:37,007 --> 00:30:40,007
I really and truly feel
that we need to send them
518
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:41,870
home to their families.
519
00:30:41,872 --> 00:30:44,552
It´s not over
until I can find out
520
00:30:44,545 --> 00:30:46,975
who they are
and send them home.
521
00:30:49,379 --> 00:30:51,079
The only regret
I have on this case
522
00:30:51,081 --> 00:30:53,451
is I couldn´t call up
somebody´s mother and father
523
00:30:53,453 --> 00:30:55,993
and say, "I got justice
for your daughter."
524
00:30:55,986 --> 00:30:57,456
That´s my only regret.
525
00:30:57,457 --> 00:30:59,487
Yeah, it´s partially achieved,
526
00:30:59,489 --> 00:31:01,559
but the final achievement
is still to come,
527
00:31:01,562 --> 00:31:03,592
and I´m hoping to have it soon.
528
00:31:03,594 --> 00:31:09,174
♫♫
529
00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:11,599
[ Indistinct conversations ]
530
00:31:11,602 --> 00:31:13,942
Violet:
Unfortunately, with Shirley,
531
00:31:13,944 --> 00:31:18,414
she is only one of many,
many who have been lost.
532
00:31:18,408 --> 00:31:20,278
[ All singing
in native language ]
533
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,620
It´s almost a weekly thing
where our people are missing,
534
00:31:24,615 --> 00:31:26,455
our children are missing.
535
00:31:28,388 --> 00:31:31,418
We need people to care.
536
00:31:31,421 --> 00:31:33,521
We need people to be made aware
537
00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:36,334
that this is actually
still happening.
538
00:31:36,326 --> 00:31:38,266
[ Singing in native language
continues ]
539
00:31:38,268 --> 00:31:46,208
♫♫
540
00:31:46,206 --> 00:31:51,076
My family is here because they
know my struggle over the years.
541
00:31:51,081 --> 00:31:55,951
And so for them to be here,
they acknowledge and respect
542
00:31:55,946 --> 00:31:58,386
the walk
that I have been walking.
543
00:31:58,388 --> 00:32:00,448
My journey has always been
544
00:32:00,450 --> 00:32:05,630
almost solitary,
walking by myself.
545
00:32:05,626 --> 00:32:09,496
But now I´m joining others,
I feel like I´m not alone.
546
00:32:09,499 --> 00:32:13,129
[ Singing in native language ]
547
00:32:25,115 --> 00:32:27,115
Justice: With our experience,
548
00:32:27,117 --> 00:32:29,647
I think, sadly,
it has taught myself
549
00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:31,680
and many other indigenous women
550
00:32:31,682 --> 00:32:36,262
that we basically always kind of
have to watch our back.
551
00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:39,986
This is our reality and it
has been for many, many years.
552
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:42,430
I have to have these talks
with my daughter
553
00:32:42,432 --> 00:32:44,292
because right now,
she´s 6 years old.
554
00:32:44,294 --> 00:32:49,504
As time goes on, we´re going to
have more in-depth conversations
555
00:32:49,499 --> 00:32:51,969
about reality for women,
556
00:32:51,972 --> 00:32:54,142
for indigenous women
specifically.
557
00:32:56,006 --> 00:33:00,146
My grandma is missing
and murdered from Vancouver.
558
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:01,980
Her name is Jean Smith,
559
00:33:01,982 --> 00:33:05,522
and my auntie Marlene Currie
was also murdered in Montreal.
560
00:33:05,516 --> 00:33:08,716
Woman: I´m here to honor
my cousin, Savannah Buffalo,
561
00:33:08,719 --> 00:33:12,989
Late Sophie Coyote,
late Matilda.
562
00:33:12,993 --> 00:33:15,733
The cases have been
closed too fast.
563
00:33:15,726 --> 00:33:20,196
The last time I saw Shirley
was in 1977
564
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200
at my father´s wake and funeral.
565
00:33:23,203 --> 00:33:25,283
Years later,
Grandma asked us
566
00:33:25,275 --> 00:33:27,775
to look for Shirley
and bring her home.
567
00:33:27,778 --> 00:33:31,008
And for all the traditional
people who understand,
568
00:33:31,011 --> 00:33:33,181
when you make a promise
to the old people,
569
00:33:33,183 --> 00:33:37,593
you do your darndest
to make sure you fulfill
570
00:33:37,588 --> 00:33:40,518
that promise
you´ve made to them.
571
00:33:40,521 --> 00:33:41,721
And I carry it on.
572
00:33:41,722 --> 00:33:48,262
♫♫
573
00:33:48,258 --> 00:33:52,328
A lot of people don´t want
to talk about these things.
574
00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:55,342
But in order to bring
their spirit back to them,
575
00:33:55,335 --> 00:33:57,565
we need to acknowledge them.
576
00:33:57,568 --> 00:34:02,538
We need to ensure
that we are doing our utmost
577
00:34:02,543 --> 00:34:04,723
to give them a voice.
578
00:34:04,715 --> 00:34:12,475
♫♫
579
00:34:12,482 --> 00:34:20,262
♫♫
580
00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:27,840
♫♫
581
00:34:27,838 --> 00:34:35,608
♫♫
582
00:34:35,606 --> 00:34:37,176
My name is Gina Wrather,
583
00:34:37,177 --> 00:34:40,377
and I am a volunteer
with the DNA Doe Project.
584
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:43,680
The DNA Doe project
was started in 2017.
585
00:34:43,684 --> 00:34:45,664
We´re a nonprofit organization.
586
00:34:45,656 --> 00:34:49,386
We work with
law-enforcement agencies
587
00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:52,089
to identify John and Jane Does
588
00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:56,832
through the use of DNA and
investigative genetic genealogy.
589
00:34:56,827 --> 00:34:58,667
Reporter:
Plastered across these walls,
590
00:34:58,669 --> 00:35:01,169
questions that go for dozens
of families
591
00:35:01,171 --> 00:35:04,541
not knowing what happened
to missing loved ones for years,
592
00:35:04,535 --> 00:35:06,575
sometimes decades.
593
00:35:06,577 --> 00:35:10,607
Gina: Our founders realized
the same technology
594
00:35:10,611 --> 00:35:14,111
and the same methods
that are used to identify
595
00:35:14,114 --> 00:35:17,494
birth parents of adoptees
could be used to identify
596
00:35:17,487 --> 00:35:20,117
these John and Jane Does.
597
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,350
We don´t give up on any cases,
598
00:35:22,352 --> 00:35:25,162
but it doesn´t matter
if it costs 10 hours
599
00:35:25,155 --> 00:35:26,655
or it costs 10,000 hours
600
00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:29,457
because we all
volunteer our time.
601
00:35:29,459 --> 00:35:31,699
If your DNA is out there,
602
00:35:31,702 --> 00:35:34,512
could it potentially
solve a case?
603
00:35:34,505 --> 00:35:36,235
Sure.
604
00:35:36,236 --> 00:35:43,236
♫♫
605
00:35:43,243 --> 00:35:47,223
I became a crime junkie just
watching all these programs,
606
00:35:47,217 --> 00:35:49,547
listening to podcasts.
607
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:55,190
I watched them identify
the Golden State killer.
608
00:35:56,326 --> 00:35:58,156
Reporter: This morning,
new details
609
00:35:58,158 --> 00:35:59,688
of the rigorous investigation
610
00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:02,390
that detectives say brought down
the Golden State Killer
611
00:36:02,392 --> 00:36:06,202
more than 40 years after
his alleged killing spree began.
612
00:36:06,196 --> 00:36:08,566
Law-enforcement sources
telling ABC News
613
00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:10,269
they used a genealogy website
614
00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:12,800
to help connect
Joseph DeAngelo´s DNA
615
00:36:12,803 --> 00:36:15,313
to past crime scenes,
taking that evidence
616
00:36:15,305 --> 00:36:17,545
and then comparing it
with family members
617
00:36:17,548 --> 00:36:21,578
within the online database
until they found their suspect.
618
00:36:21,582 --> 00:36:26,562
Violet: The idea that they found
this individual
619
00:36:26,557 --> 00:36:29,487
who did the whole DNA thing.
620
00:36:29,489 --> 00:36:35,429
Watching that program, I´m like,
"Oh, my word, here it is.
621
00:36:35,425 --> 00:36:40,325
You know, here it is.
This -- this can really help."
622
00:36:40,330 --> 00:36:45,240
So I did research my DNA,
our family genealogy,
623
00:36:45,235 --> 00:36:50,575
and then my friend put it up
on ancestry.com.
624
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:54,692
But nobody said anything.
625
00:37:01,251 --> 00:37:04,421
In 2016, I joined
the task force
626
00:37:04,424 --> 00:37:07,704
for the Golden State
Killer investigation.
627
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:12,929
Genetic genealogy
is taking suspect DNA
628
00:37:12,933 --> 00:37:15,943
and building the suspect´s
family tree
629
00:37:15,936 --> 00:37:21,306
in an attempt to identify him
and his relatives.
630
00:37:21,311 --> 00:37:25,981
When I saw the success
from identifying Joe DeAngelo
631
00:37:25,976 --> 00:37:28,246
as the Golden State Killer,
632
00:37:28,248 --> 00:37:33,678
I returned home and applied it
to Jane Doe Kern County.
633
00:37:33,684 --> 00:37:35,534
Steve called me one day
and said,
634
00:37:35,526 --> 00:37:38,286
"You know, I think maybe
we need to consider
635
00:37:38,288 --> 00:37:40,588
doing genealogy DNA."
636
00:37:41,832 --> 00:37:43,962
I had Jane Doe Kern,
637
00:37:43,964 --> 00:37:47,774
but the part that was missing
was I didn´t have a specimen.
638
00:37:47,768 --> 00:37:50,968
We had no specimens
that survived from 1980.
639
00:37:50,971 --> 00:37:53,671
So I thought about it
and decided
640
00:37:53,674 --> 00:37:58,984
that maybe we could try to get
a DNA specimen
641
00:37:58,979 --> 00:38:02,309
from the clothing
worn at the crime scene.
642
00:38:02,312 --> 00:38:05,062
It was very degraded.
643
00:38:05,055 --> 00:38:07,885
But eventually,
644
00:38:07,888 --> 00:38:12,058
the crime lab was able
to get something to the lab.
645
00:38:12,062 --> 00:38:15,602
They were looking for volunteers
on this particular case,
646
00:38:15,596 --> 00:38:18,326
and so I put my name on it.
647
00:38:18,328 --> 00:38:22,998
When we originally uploaded her,
I think we had
648
00:38:23,003 --> 00:38:29,883
19 visible matches,
which is minuscule,
649
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,620
and we were able to look
at her ethnicity right away.
650
00:38:35,616 --> 00:38:40,046
She was more likely
to be indigenous
651
00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:42,350
than she was to be Hispanic.
652
00:38:42,352 --> 00:38:48,032
So we started looking at
the indigenous Facebook groups
653
00:38:48,028 --> 00:38:51,358
and started appealing to them.
654
00:38:51,361 --> 00:38:53,101
Steve: I want to put a name
on her grave.
655
00:38:53,103 --> 00:38:55,613
I wanted to send her back
to her family.
656
00:38:55,606 --> 00:38:57,066
That´s where she belongs.
657
00:38:57,067 --> 00:38:59,607
Her family deserves to know
what became of her.
658
00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:01,940
And is that obsessive?
659
00:39:01,942 --> 00:39:05,422
No, I don´t think so.
It just comes with the job.
660
00:39:07,077 --> 00:39:08,717
Are you
getting impatient?
661
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,779
I think I´ll solve it.
I just don´t know when.
662
00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:13,481
It´s a difficult case.
663
00:39:13,483 --> 00:39:15,063
It´s actually
rewarding for me
664
00:39:15,055 --> 00:39:17,125
to watch him
do what he does.
665
00:39:17,127 --> 00:39:18,827
I don´t think
anybody realizes
666
00:39:18,829 --> 00:39:21,959
how serious
he takes his work
667
00:39:21,962 --> 00:39:24,602
and how dedicated he is
to it.
668
00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:26,695
He gets phone calls
669
00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:29,037
from the time he gets home
during the night.
670
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:30,869
8:30, 9:00.
671
00:39:30,871 --> 00:39:32,441
Doesn´t matter
if it´s holiday.
672
00:39:32,442 --> 00:39:34,042
It doesn´t matter
if it´s a weekend.
673
00:39:34,044 --> 00:39:35,984
Somebody is always
calling him,
674
00:39:35,976 --> 00:39:38,106
and he´s always
answering the phone.
675
00:39:38,108 --> 00:39:40,378
He sleeps it,
breathes it, everything.
676
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:43,050
He´s very dedicated
to his victims.
677
00:39:43,053 --> 00:39:45,493
Two birthdays in a row
I missed
678
00:39:45,485 --> 00:39:46,985
because of murder.
679
00:39:46,987 --> 00:39:48,817
Mickey has always been
supportive
680
00:39:48,819 --> 00:39:50,489
of everything
that I´ve done.
681
00:39:50,490 --> 00:39:52,990
She does accuse me
of knowing more about crime
682
00:39:52,993 --> 00:39:57,403
than I do about
household responsibilities.
683
00:39:57,397 --> 00:39:58,797
But -- And she´s right.
684
00:39:58,799 --> 00:40:00,929
If I had to balance
a checkbook,
685
00:40:00,931 --> 00:40:02,471
I wouldn´t be able to.
686
00:40:02,472 --> 00:40:10,982
♫♫
687
00:40:10,981 --> 00:40:15,451
Gina: We had a breakthrough
moment in September 2019.
688
00:40:15,445 --> 00:40:19,015
We had a new match at GEDmatch.
689
00:40:20,951 --> 00:40:24,901
She was within
the second-cousin range
690
00:40:24,895 --> 00:40:26,825
and of her great grandparents,
691
00:40:26,827 --> 00:40:31,727
only one great grandparent
was indigenous.
692
00:40:31,732 --> 00:40:35,142
And so we said,
"We´re on the right track here."
693
00:40:35,135 --> 00:40:38,005
Once we identified
the great grandfather,
694
00:40:38,008 --> 00:40:44,518
we knew he lived his entire life
in the Maskwacis area.
695
00:40:46,116 --> 00:40:48,746
His children lived
their entire lives there.
696
00:40:48,749 --> 00:40:51,219
His grandchildren lived
their entire lives there.
697
00:40:51,221 --> 00:40:56,161
So we knew someone there
very likely knew who she was.
698
00:40:58,458 --> 00:41:00,788
This case really
was a roller coaster
699
00:41:00,791 --> 00:41:04,131
because at times, I felt like
700
00:41:04,134 --> 00:41:06,804
"We´re just not
gonna solve this one."
701
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:14,579
There hadn´t been an indigenous
identification to date.
702
00:41:14,575 --> 00:41:20,575
They´re underrepresented
in the testing databases.
703
00:41:20,581 --> 00:41:23,781
They´ve had
their history erased.
704
00:41:23,784 --> 00:41:27,624
And so in February 2020,
705
00:41:27,618 --> 00:41:31,918
we did one more appeal in
the indigenous Facebook groups.
706
00:41:31,922 --> 00:41:33,722
"We need everybody to share this
707
00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:36,874
and we need everybody
to look at this face.
708
00:41:36,867 --> 00:41:39,767
And we need you to consider,
you know,
709
00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:44,130
if this could have been someone
that you knew in 1980."
710
00:41:50,581 --> 00:41:57,121
Violet: I felt I exhausted every
avenue to find my auntie.
711
00:41:57,117 --> 00:42:01,787
And so, at a woman´s
gathering in Calgary,
712
00:42:01,792 --> 00:42:06,302
I informed a group of women
that I lost my aunt
713
00:42:06,296 --> 00:42:09,556
and she´s been missing
since 1979.
714
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,960
And I made a promise
to my grandmother
715
00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:17,814
that I would find her
and bring her home.
716
00:42:17,808 --> 00:42:20,868
I was at the end of my rope.
717
00:42:22,913 --> 00:42:26,753
Four days later, boom.
Facebook.
718
00:42:26,747 --> 00:42:28,877
Oh, my God.
719
00:42:28,879 --> 00:42:32,949
My friend, she said,
"Go on Facebook.
720
00:42:32,953 --> 00:42:36,993
They found a woman
who is from Maskwacis."
721
00:42:36,987 --> 00:42:40,787
And so I went into Facebook
and I logged on
722
00:42:40,791 --> 00:42:45,241
and I´m like, "That´s her.
This is her."
723
00:42:49,269 --> 00:42:52,599
Gina: I got a phone call
from Violet and she said,
724
00:42:52,603 --> 00:42:54,273
"I think this is my aunt."
725
00:42:54,274 --> 00:42:58,614
And as she was describing
the circumstances,
726
00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:00,609
it sounded more and more likely.
727
00:43:00,611 --> 00:43:04,891
The defining factor
was a DNA comparison.
728
00:43:04,885 --> 00:43:08,685
And so I asked Violet
had she DNA-tested anywhere?
729
00:43:08,689 --> 00:43:10,189
And she said, "Yes."
730
00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:13,660
We have to have testers
to download their DNA data
731
00:43:13,664 --> 00:43:17,174
to their own computer
and upload that to GEDmatch.
732
00:43:17,167 --> 00:43:20,827
And that was the step
that Violet had been missing.
733
00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:24,071
So she said,
"I will upload to GEDmatch."
734
00:43:24,074 --> 00:43:29,614
When I was sitting in front of
the computer uploading my DNA,
735
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:33,640
that became my last-minute
dealt, you know?
736
00:43:33,644 --> 00:43:36,324
Like, what if it isn´t,
you know,
737
00:43:36,316 --> 00:43:38,746
versus when I first
saw the picture, right?
738
00:43:38,749 --> 00:43:41,349
And I was so -- "This is her."
739
00:43:41,351 --> 00:43:43,251
It was so positive.
740
00:43:43,253 --> 00:43:46,263
Gina: And so walked her through.
741
00:43:46,256 --> 00:43:47,826
She uploaded.
742
00:43:47,828 --> 00:43:50,128
I did the 1-to-1 comparison.
743
00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,100
[ Beeping ]
744
00:43:52,102 --> 00:43:58,272
♫♫
745
00:43:58,268 --> 00:44:02,068
And I said, "Violet,
this is your aunt."
746
00:44:05,075 --> 00:44:07,375
It was the most emotional moment
747
00:44:07,377 --> 00:44:14,217
in my entire DNA Doe
Project experience.
748
00:44:14,224 --> 00:44:16,234
She didn´t say anything.
749
00:44:16,226 --> 00:44:18,756
It was raw emotion.
750
00:44:18,759 --> 00:44:21,889
It was -- It wasn´t words.
It was sound.
751
00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:26,142
♫♫
752
00:44:26,136 --> 00:44:28,936
Yeah. I felt it.
753
00:44:31,872 --> 00:44:33,372
I think I lost it.
754
00:44:35,075 --> 00:44:39,375
I don´t know if I screamed
or cried or laughed or whatever.
755
00:44:39,379 --> 00:44:42,109
I mean, I must have
sounded insane to her,
756
00:44:42,112 --> 00:44:44,312
but I have to excuse myself,
you know?
757
00:44:44,314 --> 00:44:47,124
And I went into --
into my bedroom
758
00:44:47,117 --> 00:44:50,387
and I screamed into my pillow
and then I came out.
759
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:53,860
[ Laughing ]
760
00:44:53,864 --> 00:44:55,904
I went through so many emotions.
761
00:44:55,896 --> 00:44:59,726
You know, it´s like a whole
762
00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:01,970
30 years of emotions
that just came --
763
00:45:01,972 --> 00:45:05,042
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom --
right after the other.
764
00:45:08,108 --> 00:45:10,308
Gina: It was grief.
765
00:45:10,310 --> 00:45:13,710
It was relief.
766
00:45:13,714 --> 00:45:18,754
But she kept saying,
"I kept my promise.
767
00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:22,819
I found you.
I kept my promise."
768
00:45:22,823 --> 00:45:30,003
♫♫
769
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,260
♫♫
770
00:45:33,263 --> 00:45:34,843
Violet: The hardest, of course,
771
00:45:34,835 --> 00:45:38,205
was hearing about
how she -- she had passed.
772
00:45:38,208 --> 00:45:42,168
That´s really painful.
773
00:45:42,172 --> 00:45:46,322
She made it someway,
somehow to California.
774
00:45:48,448 --> 00:45:50,748
I don´t know what happened.
775
00:45:52,853 --> 00:45:55,793
Sad that we found her
in that way,
776
00:45:55,786 --> 00:46:00,526
but glad that we´re able
to bring her home.
777
00:46:00,531 --> 00:46:02,991
Reporter: Tonight, breaking news
from the sheriff´s office.
778
00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:06,503
At long last, we finally know
the name of the woman
779
00:46:06,496 --> 00:46:09,466
left for dead four decades ago.
780
00:46:09,469 --> 00:46:11,269
A victim whose identity
was unknown
781
00:46:11,271 --> 00:46:13,341
even after her killer
was sent to prison.
782
00:46:13,343 --> 00:46:16,483
Shirley Soosay was finally
identified when her niece Violet
783
00:46:16,476 --> 00:46:19,006
came across a post
by the DNA Doe Project.
784
00:46:21,311 --> 00:46:23,511
Steve: A lot of work
has gone into a case,
785
00:46:23,514 --> 00:46:26,964
a lot of late nights
to get to this goal.
786
00:46:26,957 --> 00:46:29,457
And the goal was to get justice
for our victim.
787
00:46:29,459 --> 00:46:33,189
When Shirley was identified,
I reached out to Violet.
788
00:46:33,193 --> 00:46:34,973
It was good to talk to her.
789
00:46:34,965 --> 00:46:37,195
I enjoyed knowing that she knew
790
00:46:37,197 --> 00:46:39,827
that someone was
in Shirley´s corner.
791
00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:44,100
That gives me a sense of, "This
is what I´m supposed to do."
792
00:46:44,104 --> 00:46:47,384
Steve Rhods --
He didn´t give up her,
793
00:46:47,377 --> 00:46:50,237
and I love him for that.
794
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,110
He has a special place
within our family.
795
00:46:54,114 --> 00:46:58,424
So has Dawn Ratliff and Gina --
796
00:46:58,418 --> 00:47:02,018
The DNA Doe Project.
797
00:47:02,022 --> 00:47:06,602
You know, thinking I was
doing this by myself.
798
00:47:06,597 --> 00:47:08,357
Little did I know
there were others
799
00:47:08,358 --> 00:47:12,258
who were doing the same thing
and we just had to meet.
800
00:47:14,264 --> 00:47:17,274
They were trying
to find her identity.
801
00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:20,037
I was trying to find my auntie.
802
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,070
Knowing that I really
wasn´t alone...
803
00:47:24,214 --> 00:47:25,984
...that´s so comforting.
804
00:47:28,148 --> 00:47:31,418
People do care.
805
00:47:31,421 --> 00:47:35,361
And my free-spirited auntie
is coming home.
806
00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:40,125
♫♫
807
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:42,560
Reporter: This moment is
40 years in the making.
808
00:47:42,563 --> 00:47:48,043
A tearful and joyous homecoming
for a woman who died years ago.
809
00:47:48,038 --> 00:47:49,598
Her remains were brought
to a funeral home
810
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,300
in Wetaskiwin,
where she was met by Violet
811
00:47:52,302 --> 00:47:53,872
and bikers from Maskwacis
812
00:47:53,874 --> 00:47:56,414
to escort Shirley
the rest of the way home.
813
00:47:56,406 --> 00:47:59,276
Now that Shirley can properly
be laid to rest,
814
00:47:59,279 --> 00:48:01,909
Violet can also finally rest.
815
00:48:01,912 --> 00:48:04,922
No more uncertainties.
816
00:48:04,915 --> 00:48:08,585
We are certain
that she´s home now.
817
00:48:08,589 --> 00:48:16,599
♫♫
818
00:48:16,597 --> 00:48:26,007
♫♫
819
00:48:26,006 --> 00:48:34,176
♫♫
820
00:48:34,184 --> 00:48:42,554
♫♫
821
00:48:42,553 --> 00:48:45,003
♫♫
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