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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,242 --> 00:00:15,352 Violet: When you make a promise to the old people, 2 00:00:15,345 --> 00:00:18,085 you don´t break that promise. 3 00:00:18,088 --> 00:00:21,148 You have to live that promise. 4 00:00:21,151 --> 00:00:23,591 "Find her, bring her home." 5 00:00:23,594 --> 00:00:26,664 Those were my grandmother´s instructions. 6 00:00:28,158 --> 00:00:30,528 Many have been lost. 7 00:00:30,531 --> 00:00:32,761 Many have been murdered. 8 00:00:32,762 --> 00:00:35,542 It´s still happening. 9 00:00:37,708 --> 00:00:40,138 [ Camera shutter clicking ] 10 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:43,040 Steve: She´d been stabbed more than 28 times. 11 00:00:43,043 --> 00:00:45,323 She had no I.D. with her, 12 00:00:45,315 --> 00:00:48,175 no indication of who she was, where she came from. 13 00:00:48,178 --> 00:00:52,778 They´re someone´s sister, possibly someone´s wife. 14 00:00:52,783 --> 00:00:56,563 And there´s got to be people out there that knew them. 15 00:00:56,557 --> 00:00:59,357 Ratliff: There really wasn´t anyone 16 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,059 that called to inquire about her. 17 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:03,262 The case grew cold. 18 00:01:03,263 --> 00:01:04,673 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 19 00:01:04,665 --> 00:01:07,765 You cannot dispute DNA evidence. You just can´t. 20 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:11,168 Soosay: I´ve been looking for 40 years. 21 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:14,681 You don´t give up. You can´t stop. 22 00:01:16,146 --> 00:01:20,106 We couldn´t imagine, you know, "What happened?" 23 00:01:20,110 --> 00:01:21,610 Where´d you go? 24 00:01:21,612 --> 00:01:29,262 ♫♫ 25 00:01:29,259 --> 00:01:36,669 ♫♫ 26 00:01:36,667 --> 00:01:44,297 ♫♫ 27 00:01:44,304 --> 00:01:51,714 ♫♫ 28 00:01:51,712 --> 00:01:53,412 My name is Steve Rhods. 29 00:01:53,413 --> 00:01:54,893 I´m a detective for the Ventura County 30 00:01:54,885 --> 00:01:56,385 District Attorney´s Office, 31 00:01:56,386 --> 00:01:58,446 and I´m assigned to the Cold Case Unit. 32 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:03,750 When I open a cold case, I go straight to the evidence. 33 00:02:03,754 --> 00:02:06,534 What kind of evidence do we have? 34 00:02:06,527 --> 00:02:09,397 So it was July the 15th, 1980. 35 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:12,699 The Kern County Sheriff´s Office was summoned 36 00:02:12,703 --> 00:02:15,713 to an almond orchard off the Highway 99, 37 00:02:15,706 --> 00:02:18,266 just outside of the town of Delano. 38 00:02:18,268 --> 00:02:24,878 ♫♫ 39 00:02:24,875 --> 00:02:28,675 There they encountered a female, fully clothed, 40 00:02:28,679 --> 00:02:31,419 lying in the orchard. 41 00:02:31,421 --> 00:02:33,451 She had no I.D. with her, 42 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:37,533 no indication of who she was, where she came from. 43 00:02:37,528 --> 00:02:40,628 Lying near her on the ground was a beer bottle 44 00:02:40,631 --> 00:02:43,661 and a pack of cigarettes, some tire tracks. 45 00:02:43,664 --> 00:02:46,574 And that was the extent of the evidence 46 00:02:46,567 --> 00:02:51,197 other than what was confined to her body. 47 00:02:51,201 --> 00:02:53,901 Later, they did an autopsy on this woman 48 00:02:53,904 --> 00:02:57,714 who we refer to as Jane Doe Kern County. 49 00:02:57,708 --> 00:03:02,548 They found that she´d been stabbed more than 28 times. 50 00:03:02,553 --> 00:03:05,293 Her blood alcohol was 0.3. 51 00:03:05,285 --> 00:03:09,615 So she was quite intoxicated at the time of the assault. 52 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:15,330 And the medical examiner felt that this was a forced assault. 53 00:03:15,325 --> 00:03:18,365 Her sneakers were pristine, white. 54 00:03:18,368 --> 00:03:21,368 There was no blood on the top of her sneakers. 55 00:03:21,371 --> 00:03:25,241 She had been stabbed lying down and she never stood up. 56 00:03:25,235 --> 00:03:27,875 Blood never drained onto her feet, 57 00:03:27,878 --> 00:03:31,338 so the presumption was that she was killed elsewhere, 58 00:03:31,341 --> 00:03:35,591 brought to that orchard and left in the orchard. 59 00:03:35,586 --> 00:03:38,746 [ Bird squawks ] 60 00:03:41,922 --> 00:03:45,362 I´m Dawn Ratliff, and I am the coroner division chief 61 00:03:45,355 --> 00:03:48,795 for the Kern County Sheriff Coroner´s Office. 62 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:51,429 Her cause of death was multiple stab wounds. 63 00:03:51,431 --> 00:03:55,541 There were also evidence of defensive wounds. 64 00:03:55,536 --> 00:03:59,366 Once cause and manner of death is established, 65 00:03:59,369 --> 00:04:01,009 one of the very first priorities 66 00:04:01,011 --> 00:04:03,941 is for us to complete an identification 67 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:09,724 and then to find family members and notify them about the death. 68 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,280 We fingerprinted and there were no prints on file. 69 00:04:13,283 --> 00:04:16,433 That´s where her case got more difficult. 70 00:04:16,426 --> 00:04:19,386 Steve: Evidence was collected from Jane Doe Kern, 71 00:04:19,389 --> 00:04:22,829 and they preserved it and kept all that stuff in a freezer. 72 00:04:22,833 --> 00:04:24,673 Ratliff: My first thought is, 73 00:04:24,665 --> 00:04:27,495 "She is somebody that someone should miss," 74 00:04:27,497 --> 00:04:30,037 but there really wasn´t anyone that called to inquire 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,670 about her, so she remained 76 00:04:32,673 --> 00:04:36,483 Jane Doe, Kern County, number five. 77 00:04:36,476 --> 00:04:44,986 ♫♫ 78 00:04:44,985 --> 00:04:53,715 ♫♫ 79 00:04:53,724 --> 00:04:56,434 Violet: Family is very important in our community 80 00:04:56,426 --> 00:04:59,296 and in the indigenous community. 81 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:03,469 Looking out for each other and checking in on each other. 82 00:05:03,473 --> 00:05:06,883 I´ll make bannock and check on the brothers. 83 00:05:06,877 --> 00:05:10,007 So family has always been important to us. 84 00:05:11,882 --> 00:05:14,622 My name is Violet Soosay. That´s my English name. 85 00:05:14,615 --> 00:05:18,015 My Cree name is [speaks native language] 86 00:05:19,890 --> 00:05:22,850 And I´ve been looking for my aunt 87 00:05:22,853 --> 00:05:26,003 since I was in my early 20s. 88 00:05:28,398 --> 00:05:31,458 Shirley was very light-hearted, 89 00:05:31,461 --> 00:05:34,971 very gentle, 90 00:05:34,965 --> 00:05:36,705 I used to have real curly hair. 91 00:05:36,707 --> 00:05:41,467 And I would run when somebody had a comb or a brush. 92 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:42,811 Not Shirley. 93 00:05:42,813 --> 00:05:46,653 Shirley was one I would trust. 94 00:05:46,647 --> 00:05:50,877 And she was always combing my hair. 95 00:05:50,881 --> 00:05:55,061 She always made me feel very special. 96 00:05:55,055 --> 00:05:58,785 I would cross the field just to go see her every day 97 00:05:58,789 --> 00:06:02,729 because I was so connected with her. 98 00:06:02,733 --> 00:06:04,643 Yeah. I really loved her. 99 00:06:04,635 --> 00:06:07,365 Really, really loved her. 100 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:09,997 [ Birds chirping ] 101 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,040 In the early ´70s, 102 00:06:12,042 --> 00:06:14,982 because a lot of us were in poverty, 103 00:06:14,975 --> 00:06:18,745 more people were venturing off the reserve, 104 00:06:18,749 --> 00:06:21,949 moving to urban centers. 105 00:06:21,952 --> 00:06:24,922 Shirley had this vision of helping her mom 106 00:06:24,915 --> 00:06:27,785 financially by working off reserve. 107 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:30,158 That was her thinking. 108 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,020 I think she liked living away from the reserve 109 00:06:34,024 --> 00:06:37,504 because she was like a free spirit. 110 00:06:37,497 --> 00:06:41,897 So she just lived her life in Vancouver. 111 00:06:44,935 --> 00:06:48,575 However, Shirley was really meticulous. 112 00:06:48,579 --> 00:06:53,879 She would send Christmas cards, birthday cards, 113 00:06:53,884 --> 00:06:56,954 letters constantly to her mom. 114 00:06:56,947 --> 00:07:01,447 And I´m pretty sure it was December of ´79 115 00:07:01,451 --> 00:07:06,831 that my grandmother didn´t receive a Christmas card. 116 00:07:06,827 --> 00:07:13,597 March of 1980, she didn´t receive her birthday card. 117 00:07:13,604 --> 00:07:15,014 And that´s when she said, 118 00:07:15,005 --> 00:07:18,165 "Something´s going on. Something´s wrong." 119 00:07:18,168 --> 00:07:22,868 We couldn´t imagine, you know, "What happened? 120 00:07:22,873 --> 00:07:24,783 Where´d you go?" 121 00:07:27,878 --> 00:07:33,178 And it was about a year later, in 1981, 122 00:07:33,183 --> 00:07:37,763 when my grandmother told my Auntie Belle and myself 123 00:07:37,758 --> 00:07:39,888 to look for her 124 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:42,660 and promise her to bring her home. 125 00:07:44,695 --> 00:07:46,995 "Find her, bring her home." 126 00:07:46,997 --> 00:07:54,137 ♫♫ 127 00:07:54,144 --> 00:08:01,254 ♫♫ 128 00:08:01,251 --> 00:08:03,551 [ Waves crashing ] 129 00:08:03,554 --> 00:08:09,524 ♫♫ 130 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,090 Steve: I became a policeman back in my youth 131 00:08:12,092 --> 00:08:14,222 with the sheriff´s office here in Ventura County, 132 00:08:14,224 --> 00:08:16,574 became a detective, first in Property Crimes, 133 00:08:16,567 --> 00:08:19,167 and then later I moved into Homicide. 134 00:08:19,169 --> 00:08:22,199 And when I retired in 2012, 135 00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:26,812 I was invited to come back to the Cold Case unit. 136 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:30,537 I enjoy a good problem. I enjoy solving the problem. 137 00:08:30,541 --> 00:08:34,141 I specifically enjoy looking out for our victims. 138 00:08:34,144 --> 00:08:36,054 They´ve been wronged. 139 00:08:36,046 --> 00:08:41,086 Someone needs to speak for them, and that´s what I choose to do. 140 00:08:42,793 --> 00:08:46,703 Jane Doe Kerns -- one of a number of investigations 141 00:08:46,697 --> 00:08:48,227 that I´m working on. 142 00:08:50,701 --> 00:08:55,241 On July 18, 1980, at about 12:35 in the afternoon, 143 00:08:55,235 --> 00:08:57,805 Ventura County Sheriff´s Patrol deputies were dispatched 144 00:08:57,808 --> 00:08:59,708 to a report of a dead body 145 00:08:59,710 --> 00:09:02,140 in the parking lot of Westlake High School. 146 00:09:04,615 --> 00:09:09,715 She had no purse, no I.D., no jewelry. 147 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,620 Obvious stab wounds were visible on her chest 148 00:09:12,623 --> 00:09:14,323 and on her arms. 149 00:09:14,324 --> 00:09:20,334 At the time, at 1980, there was no DNA. 150 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:22,960 Pretty much all the investigators could do 151 00:09:22,963 --> 00:09:24,603 was interview the people 152 00:09:24,595 --> 00:09:27,595 that were attending the football game nearby 153 00:09:27,598 --> 00:09:29,338 and take photographs. 154 00:09:29,339 --> 00:09:32,139 Later in the day, they conducted an autopsy. 155 00:09:32,142 --> 00:09:35,682 They had documented 23 physical injuries to her body, 156 00:09:35,676 --> 00:09:37,946 13 of which were stab wounds. 157 00:09:37,948 --> 00:09:39,748 She was three months´ pregnant. 158 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:44,150 There was evidence of forced sexual assault. 159 00:09:44,154 --> 00:09:46,364 Attempts were made at the time to identify 160 00:09:46,356 --> 00:09:50,916 Jane Doe Ventura through fingerprints with no results. 161 00:09:50,921 --> 00:09:53,691 Missing-person reports were scanned 162 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:57,334 through several states and no results. 163 00:09:57,327 --> 00:09:59,297 And that murder had occurred three days 164 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:02,769 after Jane Doe Kern County was found. 165 00:10:02,773 --> 00:10:09,243 ♫♫ 166 00:10:12,312 --> 00:10:17,222 ♫♫ 167 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:21,787 Violet: To not know what had happened with Shirley 168 00:10:21,792 --> 00:10:23,622 was really difficult. 169 00:10:25,726 --> 00:10:31,856 In 1981, when I went to look for help from police enforcement, 170 00:10:31,862 --> 00:10:35,812 we were just told, "Oh, probably just another dead Indian." 171 00:10:35,806 --> 00:10:37,766 Just another dead Indian. 172 00:10:37,768 --> 00:10:39,808 That´s what I was told. 173 00:10:39,810 --> 00:10:44,650 We were looked at as if we were nothing, you know? 174 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:49,075 That´s when I learned early on in our search 175 00:10:49,079 --> 00:10:52,179 that they were not going to help us. 176 00:10:52,182 --> 00:10:55,762 I knew I had to keep searching for Shirley. 177 00:10:57,327 --> 00:11:00,257 I made a promise to my grandmother 178 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:03,830 that I would find her and bring her home. 179 00:11:05,836 --> 00:11:09,696 Periodically over the years, my aunt Belle and I, 180 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:14,980 as long as we had gas, we had food, 181 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:19,245 and we had money for lodging, we´d set off. 182 00:11:19,249 --> 00:11:24,109 The trip to Vancouver would take us 12 hours. 183 00:11:24,114 --> 00:11:26,894 We never stopped overnight 184 00:11:26,887 --> 00:11:31,287 because the less time you spend in a motel, 185 00:11:31,291 --> 00:11:34,971 the more time you´ll be looking, right? 186 00:11:34,965 --> 00:11:37,795 First time, you know, there was that excitement of, 187 00:11:37,798 --> 00:11:41,728 "Oh, we´ll find her. You know, we can do this." 188 00:11:41,732 --> 00:11:44,782 And after the first trip, you know, 189 00:11:44,775 --> 00:11:48,475 you start realizing like, "Oh, my goodness." 190 00:11:51,782 --> 00:11:55,292 You go into the city and you see all these buildings 191 00:11:55,285 --> 00:11:57,345 and all these people. 192 00:11:57,347 --> 00:12:00,147 It was overwhelming. It was like, 193 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:04,350 "Oh, my God, where are we going to look?" 194 00:12:04,354 --> 00:12:06,904 Who are we going to talk to?" 195 00:12:06,897 --> 00:12:09,857 It is a huge city. 196 00:12:09,860 --> 00:12:12,300 And how in the heck are you gonna look into 197 00:12:12,302 --> 00:12:14,772 every nook and cranny? 198 00:12:14,765 --> 00:12:18,905 In Vancouver, there´s a lot of alleys. 199 00:12:18,909 --> 00:12:20,769 It was scary, 200 00:12:20,771 --> 00:12:25,921 just the enormity of what we were trying to do. 201 00:12:25,916 --> 00:12:30,746 But, you know, we became more street-pounding after a while. 202 00:12:32,222 --> 00:12:34,792 And we´d always be looking 203 00:12:34,785 --> 00:12:38,525 for indigenous people on the streets. 204 00:12:38,529 --> 00:12:41,829 If it was safe enough to get out, we´d get out. 205 00:12:41,832 --> 00:12:44,972 Once in a while, there´d be Cree. 206 00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:47,335 So we´d be speaking our language to them 207 00:12:47,337 --> 00:12:52,167 and asking them if they seen Shirley or knew of her. 208 00:12:54,845 --> 00:12:58,345 It was really heartbreaking to turn around 209 00:12:58,348 --> 00:13:01,478 and come back empty-handed. 210 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:05,991 No new information to share with my grandmother. 211 00:13:07,317 --> 00:13:12,187 I think that´s the one that really gets to me. 212 00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:14,092 She was the matriarch. 213 00:13:14,094 --> 00:13:20,474 You know, you don´t go against the words and the expectations 214 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:22,530 of your matriarch. 215 00:13:22,533 --> 00:13:27,183 And to tell her that we didn´t find her, 216 00:13:27,177 --> 00:13:32,237 next time, you know... 217 00:13:32,242 --> 00:13:37,192 you´d known she was disappointed many times. 218 00:13:37,187 --> 00:13:38,847 [ Sniffling ] 219 00:13:38,849 --> 00:13:43,219 ♫♫ 220 00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:49,533 Then...she would just shut her lights off and sit in the dark. 221 00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:56,212 And I know that she was crying. 222 00:13:56,206 --> 00:14:05,346 ♫♫ 223 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:14,445 ♫♫ 224 00:14:14,454 --> 00:14:17,134 Steve: In 1980, evidence collection 225 00:14:17,127 --> 00:14:21,287 was limited to tire impressions, fingerprints. 226 00:14:21,291 --> 00:14:24,091 Take a picture, write a report, 227 00:14:24,094 --> 00:14:25,604 go out and talk to somebody. 228 00:14:25,596 --> 00:14:28,136 Bring your handy-dandy little notebook with you. 229 00:14:28,138 --> 00:14:31,998 DNA hadn´t been invented yet. There was no DNA. 230 00:14:32,002 --> 00:14:34,202 Today we have DNA. 231 00:14:34,204 --> 00:14:35,614 It´s the magic bullet 232 00:14:35,606 --> 00:14:38,106 for identifying everything and everybody. 233 00:14:38,108 --> 00:14:40,078 You know, we´re sitting here right now. 234 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,910 We´re dropping DNA all over the room. 235 00:14:41,912 --> 00:14:45,122 You leave, I can come in here and vacuum all this up now 236 00:14:45,115 --> 00:14:46,555 and identify you. 237 00:14:46,557 --> 00:14:50,587 For me, when I review a cold case, 238 00:14:50,591 --> 00:14:54,261 if there´s anything that is remotely DNA, 239 00:14:54,264 --> 00:14:55,934 I´m gonna take the case. 240 00:14:55,926 --> 00:14:59,426 You cannot dispute DNA evidence. You just can´t. 241 00:14:59,429 --> 00:15:02,369 ♫♫ 242 00:15:02,372 --> 00:15:05,082 [ Dog barking ] 243 00:15:05,075 --> 00:15:08,205 Violet: I started searching for Shirley online 244 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,578 in the early 2000s. 245 00:15:10,581 --> 00:15:14,111 The idea of looking for somebody online 246 00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:16,924 was new for me at that time. 247 00:15:18,649 --> 00:15:22,649 In the beginning, it was more or less just obituaries. 248 00:15:22,653 --> 00:15:27,963 Just kind of scaling it down to Soosay... 249 00:15:27,958 --> 00:15:30,658 and years. 250 00:15:30,661 --> 00:15:34,641 No, there was nothing that I could ever find there. 251 00:15:34,635 --> 00:15:38,935 Unless you have access to police-enforcement websites, 252 00:15:38,939 --> 00:15:44,109 you have no way of trying to get any case files. 253 00:15:44,114 --> 00:15:45,384 I don´t have that clearance. 254 00:15:45,375 --> 00:15:48,415 So that one shut down pretty quick. 255 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:52,220 Growing up, my mom always shared stories. 256 00:15:52,222 --> 00:15:55,262 Always, always, always shared stories with us kids 257 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:57,025 about Shirley. 258 00:15:57,027 --> 00:16:01,387 It´s been, like, a whole range of emotions for my mom. 259 00:16:01,391 --> 00:16:02,991 Violet: When it comes to indigenous people, 260 00:16:02,993 --> 00:16:06,143 they´re almost, like, shoved over to the side. 261 00:16:06,136 --> 00:16:09,266 You start looking for missing persons, you know. 262 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:12,699 Most of them were non-indigenous. 263 00:16:12,703 --> 00:16:15,153 "What can I do different? 264 00:16:15,145 --> 00:16:17,705 Where do I go from here?" 265 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:21,750 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in California 266 00:16:21,752 --> 00:16:25,392 is a big backer of the DNA databank idea. 267 00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:26,715 How will it work? 268 00:16:26,717 --> 00:16:29,387 Walsh: Proposition 69 in California 269 00:16:29,389 --> 00:16:31,289 takes mandatory collection 270 00:16:31,291 --> 00:16:33,021 of every convicted felon´s DNA. 271 00:16:33,023 --> 00:16:35,273 There´s over a million DNA kits 272 00:16:35,265 --> 00:16:37,265 in the California database. 273 00:16:37,267 --> 00:16:39,027 And in January of next year, 274 00:16:39,029 --> 00:16:40,669 they´re gonna take the DNA 275 00:16:40,671 --> 00:16:43,271 of everybody arrested for a felony. 276 00:16:43,273 --> 00:16:47,013 They solve four to five unsolved cases a day 277 00:16:47,007 --> 00:16:50,637 in California because of Governor Schwarzenegger´s bill. 278 00:16:50,641 --> 00:16:54,011 Passed Proposition 69, giving law enforcement 279 00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:57,524 the state-of-the-art tools for crack down on criminals. 280 00:16:57,518 --> 00:16:59,448 This is the card that says that 281 00:16:59,449 --> 00:17:01,719 you´re giving us your blood and saliva. 282 00:17:01,722 --> 00:17:03,392 Reporter: Under California law, 283 00:17:03,393 --> 00:17:05,733 all felons convicted of violent crimes, 284 00:17:05,726 --> 00:17:08,696 sexual crimes, burglaries, carjackings 285 00:17:08,699 --> 00:17:11,729 and arsons must provide DNA samples. 286 00:17:11,732 --> 00:17:16,172 Steve: We had submitted Jane Doe Ventura´s hats, panties, 287 00:17:16,166 --> 00:17:19,606 fingernails for DNA profiling. 288 00:17:19,610 --> 00:17:23,670 And then we uploaded that profile into a national database 289 00:17:23,674 --> 00:17:25,584 that we call CODIS. 290 00:17:28,749 --> 00:17:32,149 In 2012, a hit comes back to Wilson Chouest. 291 00:17:32,152 --> 00:17:36,232 ♫♫ 292 00:17:36,226 --> 00:17:40,226 We´re also informed that he´s a match to Kern County. 293 00:17:42,663 --> 00:17:46,573 So we started working both cases at the same time. 294 00:17:46,567 --> 00:17:49,197 Reporter: Back in 1980, they had the DNA, 295 00:17:49,199 --> 00:17:52,339 but it wasn´t until recently that scientists could link it 296 00:17:52,342 --> 00:17:55,382 to the man they think is responsible 297 00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:58,245 for dead bodies popping up in Southern California. 298 00:17:58,248 --> 00:18:01,748 This is Mr. Wilson Chouest, a U.S. Army veteran 299 00:18:01,752 --> 00:18:04,662 discharged with heroin problems. 300 00:18:04,655 --> 00:18:08,615 Steve: Wilson Chouest is a convicted rapist. 301 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:11,790 While he´s in prison, 302 00:18:11,792 --> 00:18:14,872 he´s required to provide a DNA sample, 303 00:18:14,865 --> 00:18:18,795 which is uploaded into the DNA database. 304 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:22,329 That database hits on the Jane Doe Kern County 305 00:18:22,332 --> 00:18:25,812 and the Jane Doe Ventura case. 306 00:18:25,806 --> 00:18:29,176 Wilson Chouest is our guy. No doubt about it. 307 00:18:29,179 --> 00:18:31,109 We just have to interview Wilson Chouest 308 00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:32,311 and find out what his story is. 309 00:19:03,544 --> 00:19:04,924 We have a bunch of photographs 310 00:19:04,915 --> 00:19:06,515 that we have downloaded from the Internet, 311 00:19:06,517 --> 00:19:09,147 photos of random people, and we´re going, "Okay, 312 00:19:09,149 --> 00:19:10,749 this rape happened at a post office 313 00:19:10,751 --> 00:19:13,281 along the 101 freeway." 314 00:19:13,283 --> 00:19:16,833 And Wilson immediately says, "I was in custody at that time." 315 00:19:16,827 --> 00:19:18,857 "Okay, then you didn´t do that one. 316 00:19:18,859 --> 00:19:21,359 Well, this one happened when you were in custody, too. 317 00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:23,261 You didn´t do that one." 318 00:19:23,263 --> 00:19:25,843 We´re building a rapport with Chouest. 319 00:19:25,836 --> 00:19:28,936 Then we show him the picture of Jane Doe Ventura County. 320 00:19:46,416 --> 00:19:49,686 This one happened near a parking lot called Westlake High School 321 00:19:49,690 --> 00:19:51,190 along the 101. 322 00:19:51,191 --> 00:19:52,891 Wilson won´t even look at her picture. 323 00:19:52,893 --> 00:19:57,373 He says to us, "I don´t even know where the 101 freeway is." 324 00:19:57,367 --> 00:20:00,327 Wilson Chouest´s lived his entire adult life 325 00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:01,900 in the San Fernando Valley. 326 00:20:01,902 --> 00:20:03,902 You cannot go from one end of the San Fernando Valley 327 00:20:03,904 --> 00:20:07,284 to the other end without driving on the 101 freeway. 328 00:20:07,277 --> 00:20:10,807 You just can´t. So that´s a lie. 329 00:20:10,811 --> 00:20:12,581 I need to get the truth. 330 00:20:12,583 --> 00:20:15,723 Better, I need to get a lie. 331 00:20:15,716 --> 00:20:18,986 I can prove the truth, but I can really prove the lie. 332 00:20:18,989 --> 00:20:22,819 We have the DNA. We know who he is. 333 00:21:07,838 --> 00:21:10,838 We needed Wilson to tell us who they were, 334 00:21:10,841 --> 00:21:13,841 where he got them, and he refused to acknowledge 335 00:21:13,844 --> 00:21:15,354 he had anything to do with that. 336 00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:24,622 Two or three days later, I went down to the jail 337 00:21:24,615 --> 00:21:26,855 and arrested him for the murders. 338 00:21:26,857 --> 00:21:28,417 Reporter: Mr. Chouest was arrested 339 00:21:28,418 --> 00:21:30,358 for murder this morning. 340 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,820 Sheriff: The mainstay is to try to identify who these women are 341 00:21:33,824 --> 00:21:36,774 because they´re someone´s sister, 342 00:21:36,767 --> 00:21:39,067 possibly someone´s wife. 343 00:21:39,069 --> 00:21:42,329 There´s got to be people out there that knew them. 344 00:21:42,332 --> 00:21:44,842 And we want to bring closure to that family 345 00:21:44,835 --> 00:21:46,405 and so that they understand 346 00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,076 what happened to their mom or their sister 347 00:21:48,078 --> 00:21:50,738 or their daughter when she didn´t come home that day. 348 00:21:53,714 --> 00:21:56,094 [ Dog barking ] 349 00:21:56,086 --> 00:21:58,046 Hi, Mom. 350 00:21:58,048 --> 00:22:01,348 Mm-hmm. I´m just looking at these pictures 351 00:22:01,351 --> 00:22:04,351 because these are the main ones that we have 352 00:22:04,354 --> 00:22:05,704 of Auntie Shirley. 353 00:22:05,696 --> 00:22:07,426 I think this one is my favorite. 354 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:10,497 Yeah, I think that´s everyone´s favorite. 355 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:12,330 And it was during release 356 00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:14,842 from residential school for summer, 357 00:22:14,835 --> 00:22:17,865 and the girls all took picture. 358 00:22:17,868 --> 00:22:21,538 This is Auntie Shirley, my sister Lillian, 359 00:22:21,542 --> 00:22:23,942 my sister Pat. 360 00:22:23,944 --> 00:22:26,384 And then, of course, there´s my dad. 361 00:22:26,376 --> 00:22:28,646 These are all residential-school boys. 362 00:22:28,649 --> 00:22:29,979 Yeah. 363 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:31,450 Violet: The residential school 364 00:22:31,451 --> 00:22:35,031 was to take the Indian out of the child, 365 00:22:35,025 --> 00:22:40,485 and it started in the late 1800s right up to 1996. 366 00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:42,960 So that´s, like, a whole century 367 00:22:42,963 --> 00:22:47,773 of removing children from the traditional homes. 368 00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,938 And so there was a great disconnect. 369 00:22:50,941 --> 00:22:53,041 And you can see the hats that they wore. 370 00:22:53,043 --> 00:22:54,883 Yeah, that´s pretty neat. 371 00:22:54,875 --> 00:22:56,375 I don´t even know what they call them, 372 00:22:56,376 --> 00:22:57,806 but I remember 373 00:22:57,808 --> 00:23:00,408 that they used to wear those a lot. 374 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:06,762 The residential school was a breeding ground 375 00:23:06,757 --> 00:23:10,617 for sexual abuse, for psychological abuse, 376 00:23:10,621 --> 00:23:12,391 physical abuse. 377 00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:16,502 So those are the realities that we had to face. 378 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:20,496 A lot of them have turned to alcoholism, 379 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,070 have turned to drugs. 380 00:23:22,072 --> 00:23:28,182 So those residential schools -- yes, they educated us, 381 00:23:28,178 --> 00:23:35,088 but they did more damage than good for the majority. 382 00:23:35,085 --> 00:23:38,115 You know, my mom died two years ago. 383 00:23:38,118 --> 00:23:42,988 She never, ever hugged or kissed us 384 00:23:42,993 --> 00:23:46,063 because she was in residential school. 385 00:23:46,056 --> 00:23:50,496 It wasn´t until she shared that my heart opened up 386 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,130 and understood why she did the things that she did. 387 00:23:56,466 --> 00:24:00,606 I was in residential school, but I was fortunate 388 00:24:00,611 --> 00:24:03,471 that my father sent me to my grandparents 389 00:24:03,473 --> 00:24:06,923 to have, like, a cultural immersion for two years 390 00:24:06,917 --> 00:24:10,947 to come back to know who I was. 391 00:24:10,951 --> 00:24:16,831 I still have to deal with...memories, you know. 392 00:24:16,827 --> 00:24:20,827 A lot of PTSD from residential school. 393 00:24:22,132 --> 00:24:26,802 So in raising my children, I talk about the history. 394 00:24:26,797 --> 00:24:29,997 I talk about what transpired. 395 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,600 But you only have to speak the truth. 396 00:24:33,604 --> 00:24:36,054 There´s been a lot of intergenerational traumas 397 00:24:36,046 --> 00:24:38,576 that have been passed down. 398 00:24:38,579 --> 00:24:42,179 Like, every day we are learning about our own history 399 00:24:42,182 --> 00:24:46,892 and our bloodlines and what our family 400 00:24:46,887 --> 00:24:49,157 and our ancestors have gone through. 401 00:24:49,159 --> 00:24:54,799 And you carry that... forever. 402 00:24:54,795 --> 00:24:57,065 And until you become a parent 403 00:24:57,067 --> 00:25:00,067 and until you become, you know, aware 404 00:25:00,070 --> 00:25:05,810 of how those things have impacted you, 405 00:25:05,806 --> 00:25:08,906 you know, is when you have the power to change that. 406 00:25:08,909 --> 00:25:10,539 And for me, still to this day, 407 00:25:10,541 --> 00:25:13,641 I struggle with my own parenting. 408 00:25:13,644 --> 00:25:15,694 But I know I´m -- 409 00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,686 I´m a really good parent for my own children. 410 00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:20,149 Mm-hmm. 411 00:25:20,150 --> 00:25:22,550 Man: Hi, there. 412 00:25:22,553 --> 00:25:24,153 Hi, Lily. 413 00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:26,604 -Hi. -Hi. You okay? 414 00:25:26,597 --> 00:25:27,897 Yeah. 415 00:25:27,898 --> 00:25:29,698 Do you want a snack to take upstairs? 416 00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:31,230 Yeah. Okay. 417 00:25:33,964 --> 00:25:37,544 Justice: Something I´ve always been really grateful for 418 00:25:37,538 --> 00:25:40,608 is my mom, because I understand and I know 419 00:25:40,611 --> 00:25:44,581 that life could have been so different for us, 420 00:25:44,575 --> 00:25:46,315 for me, for my own kids. 421 00:25:46,316 --> 00:25:52,676 ♫♫ 422 00:25:52,683 --> 00:25:56,193 [ Bird squawks ] 423 00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:04,740 ♫♫ 424 00:26:04,735 --> 00:26:07,335 Steve: After we had arrested Wilson Chouest 425 00:26:07,337 --> 00:26:11,597 for the murders of the Does, I felt, 426 00:26:11,602 --> 00:26:13,302 "Yeah, this case is ready to be filed. 427 00:26:13,303 --> 00:26:16,013 We need to take this to the D.A." 428 00:26:16,006 --> 00:26:20,606 and that´s when I met D.A. John Barrick. 429 00:26:20,611 --> 00:26:23,281 John: So I was sitting in my office one day, 430 00:26:23,283 --> 00:26:27,923 and my boss came to me and said, "Hey, there´s this case. 431 00:26:27,918 --> 00:26:32,088 The investigators really want someone to take a look at it. 432 00:26:32,092 --> 00:26:34,872 Would you mind coming to a meeting 433 00:26:34,865 --> 00:26:37,195 and listening to their pitch?" 434 00:26:37,197 --> 00:26:39,897 They start off with kind of talking about the facts 435 00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,270 of the case, the, you know, the crime scene itself. 436 00:26:42,272 --> 00:26:44,682 There wasn´t a lot of evidence at the crime scene. 437 00:26:44,675 --> 00:26:46,305 There were no eyewitnesses at all. 438 00:26:46,306 --> 00:26:49,936 But then very early on in the presentation, 439 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:51,780 he started talking about the DNA, 440 00:26:51,782 --> 00:26:54,722 that they were able to find semen stains on the underpants 441 00:26:54,715 --> 00:26:57,945 from the victim in Ventura County, get a ratio, 442 00:26:57,948 --> 00:27:00,388 and got a hit to Wilson Chouest. 443 00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:03,320 And I just sort of put my pen down and stopped taking notes. 444 00:27:03,323 --> 00:27:05,933 And for me, I was like, "Well, there it is." 445 00:27:05,926 --> 00:27:08,356 I noticed that John had stopped taking notes. 446 00:27:08,358 --> 00:27:09,958 For me, that was kind of troubling. 447 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,000 I was like, "Oh, I´ve lost him." 448 00:27:12,002 --> 00:27:15,012 When you do jury trials, and I´ve done quite a few, 449 00:27:15,005 --> 00:27:17,405 there´s -- there´s two types of evidence that jurors 450 00:27:17,407 --> 00:27:21,737 just love -- surveillance video and DNA. 451 00:27:21,742 --> 00:27:25,382 And for me, if you have either one, you take a shot. 452 00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:28,375 I don´t want to play poker against John Barrick. 453 00:27:28,378 --> 00:27:30,818 And when we got all done, he stood up and said, 454 00:27:30,821 --> 00:27:32,381 "Sounds good to me. Bring it down to my office. 455 00:27:32,382 --> 00:27:34,152 I´ll file it." 456 00:27:34,154 --> 00:27:36,894 I was kind of blown away. 457 00:27:36,887 --> 00:27:40,387 It was during that meeting that they mentioned 458 00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:45,300 that there was another Jane Doe from Kern County 459 00:27:45,295 --> 00:27:48,165 three days earlier, same situation -- 460 00:27:48,168 --> 00:27:50,968 again, rape, murdered, unidentified. 461 00:27:50,971 --> 00:27:52,671 I said, "Well, what are the odds 462 00:27:52,673 --> 00:27:54,373 you have these two unidentified victims 463 00:27:54,374 --> 00:27:57,384 in two separate counties and their rape-murders occur 464 00:27:57,377 --> 00:28:00,847 three days apart by a suspect who´s -- who´s a known 465 00:28:00,851 --> 00:28:04,791 serial rapist serving time in prison for serial rape?" 466 00:28:04,785 --> 00:28:06,685 That just seems like a no-brainer to me. 467 00:28:06,687 --> 00:28:08,287 I´m gonna take the shot with that. 468 00:28:08,288 --> 00:28:11,758 That´s how we ultimately decided to file both cases 469 00:28:11,762 --> 00:28:13,022 in Ventura County. 470 00:28:16,727 --> 00:28:18,227 The trial itself took about a month. 471 00:28:21,872 --> 00:28:25,012 The evidence, for the most part, went as planned. 472 00:28:25,005 --> 00:28:28,175 Not only did we have the semen, but you had separate DNA, 473 00:28:28,178 --> 00:28:29,978 one from a beer bottle in Kern County 474 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:34,410 and the fingernails from the victim in Ventura County. 475 00:28:34,414 --> 00:28:36,424 When you´re doing a jury trial, you´re trying to convince 476 00:28:36,416 --> 00:28:39,216 12 strangers beyond a reasonable doubt 477 00:28:39,219 --> 00:28:43,249 that what you think the evidence shows is true. 478 00:28:43,253 --> 00:28:45,003 And that can be very difficult, 479 00:28:44,995 --> 00:28:47,095 just trying to get 12 people to agree on anything. 480 00:28:47,097 --> 00:28:51,957 So it´s a very stressful time when you´re a prosecutor. 481 00:28:51,962 --> 00:28:54,872 Ventura County decided to prosecute both cases, 482 00:28:54,865 --> 00:28:56,235 doubling their workload, 483 00:28:56,236 --> 00:28:58,306 but giving both victims a shot at justice. 484 00:28:58,308 --> 00:29:00,838 Nearly 40 years after the murders, 485 00:29:00,841 --> 00:29:02,311 the victims got just that. 486 00:29:18,488 --> 00:29:20,428 Reporter: And with that, Wilson Chouest 487 00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:23,990 was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. 488 00:29:23,994 --> 00:29:26,044 Steve: I would have really been shocked 489 00:29:26,036 --> 00:29:28,396 if that jury had come back not guilty on anything, 490 00:29:28,398 --> 00:29:31,268 but it was like, "Well, thank you. You know, I did my job. 491 00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:33,171 You did your job. We´re all happy. 492 00:29:33,173 --> 00:29:36,913 Wilson is where he belongs -- in prison." 493 00:29:36,907 --> 00:29:40,377 John: It´s sort of foreign to prosecutors to do a murder trial 494 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:44,150 where there is no family for the victim in the courtroom. 495 00:29:44,154 --> 00:29:45,424 And I guess the feeling is like, 496 00:29:45,415 --> 00:29:47,955 "If we don´t have that familial support, 497 00:29:47,958 --> 00:29:50,488 that maybe the jury won´t care about the case." 498 00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:52,560 But I actually found that to be quite the opposite. 499 00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:54,803 Like, it made them care even more. 500 00:29:54,795 --> 00:29:57,465 Because the identity of the victims was unknown, 501 00:29:57,467 --> 00:29:59,427 they became their advocates. 502 00:29:59,429 --> 00:30:01,869 It kept sinking in deeper and deeper to me 503 00:30:01,872 --> 00:30:03,432 that I have to be their family. 504 00:30:03,433 --> 00:30:05,083 We have to be their family. 505 00:30:05,075 --> 00:30:08,135 We have to be their voice and see this to the end. 506 00:30:08,138 --> 00:30:09,838 Doing this trial was probably 507 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,440 one of the most important things I´ve done in my life. 508 00:30:12,442 --> 00:30:15,392 Steve: Our true calling is to the victim. 509 00:30:15,385 --> 00:30:17,845 That´s who we´re looking out for. 510 00:30:17,848 --> 00:30:21,518 And these two women were ignored in life 511 00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:23,152 and ignored in death. 512 00:30:23,153 --> 00:30:25,063 Just because they didn´t have a name, 513 00:30:25,055 --> 00:30:28,995 those women didn´t deserve any of that. 514 00:30:28,999 --> 00:30:31,399 They should be treated just like everybody else. 515 00:30:31,401 --> 00:30:34,231 Reporter: While many others may feel their job would be done 516 00:30:34,234 --> 00:30:37,014 at this point, Rhods is different. 517 00:30:37,007 --> 00:30:40,007 I really and truly feel that we need to send them 518 00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:41,870 home to their families. 519 00:30:41,872 --> 00:30:44,552 It´s not over until I can find out 520 00:30:44,545 --> 00:30:46,975 who they are and send them home. 521 00:30:49,379 --> 00:30:51,079 The only regret I have on this case 522 00:30:51,081 --> 00:30:53,451 is I couldn´t call up somebody´s mother and father 523 00:30:53,453 --> 00:30:55,993 and say, "I got justice for your daughter." 524 00:30:55,986 --> 00:30:57,456 That´s my only regret. 525 00:30:57,457 --> 00:30:59,487 Yeah, it´s partially achieved, 526 00:30:59,489 --> 00:31:01,559 but the final achievement is still to come, 527 00:31:01,562 --> 00:31:03,592 and I´m hoping to have it soon. 528 00:31:03,594 --> 00:31:09,174 ♫♫ 529 00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:11,599 [ Indistinct conversations ] 530 00:31:11,602 --> 00:31:13,942 Violet: Unfortunately, with Shirley, 531 00:31:13,944 --> 00:31:18,414 she is only one of many, many who have been lost. 532 00:31:18,408 --> 00:31:20,278 [ All singing in native language ] 533 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,620 It´s almost a weekly thing where our people are missing, 534 00:31:24,615 --> 00:31:26,455 our children are missing. 535 00:31:28,388 --> 00:31:31,418 We need people to care. 536 00:31:31,421 --> 00:31:33,521 We need people to be made aware 537 00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:36,334 that this is actually still happening. 538 00:31:36,326 --> 00:31:38,266 [ Singing in native language continues ] 539 00:31:38,268 --> 00:31:46,208 ♫♫ 540 00:31:46,206 --> 00:31:51,076 My family is here because they know my struggle over the years. 541 00:31:51,081 --> 00:31:55,951 And so for them to be here, they acknowledge and respect 542 00:31:55,946 --> 00:31:58,386 the walk that I have been walking. 543 00:31:58,388 --> 00:32:00,448 My journey has always been 544 00:32:00,450 --> 00:32:05,630 almost solitary, walking by myself. 545 00:32:05,626 --> 00:32:09,496 But now I´m joining others, I feel like I´m not alone. 546 00:32:09,499 --> 00:32:13,129 [ Singing in native language ] 547 00:32:25,115 --> 00:32:27,115 Justice: With our experience, 548 00:32:27,117 --> 00:32:29,647 I think, sadly, it has taught myself 549 00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:31,680 and many other indigenous women 550 00:32:31,682 --> 00:32:36,262 that we basically always kind of have to watch our back. 551 00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:39,986 This is our reality and it has been for many, many years. 552 00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:42,430 I have to have these talks with my daughter 553 00:32:42,432 --> 00:32:44,292 because right now, she´s 6 years old. 554 00:32:44,294 --> 00:32:49,504 As time goes on, we´re going to have more in-depth conversations 555 00:32:49,499 --> 00:32:51,969 about reality for women, 556 00:32:51,972 --> 00:32:54,142 for indigenous women specifically. 557 00:32:56,006 --> 00:33:00,146 My grandma is missing and murdered from Vancouver. 558 00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:01,980 Her name is Jean Smith, 559 00:33:01,982 --> 00:33:05,522 and my auntie Marlene Currie was also murdered in Montreal. 560 00:33:05,516 --> 00:33:08,716 Woman: I´m here to honor my cousin, Savannah Buffalo, 561 00:33:08,719 --> 00:33:12,989 Late Sophie Coyote, late Matilda. 562 00:33:12,993 --> 00:33:15,733 The cases have been closed too fast. 563 00:33:15,726 --> 00:33:20,196 The last time I saw Shirley was in 1977 564 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200 at my father´s wake and funeral. 565 00:33:23,203 --> 00:33:25,283 Years later, Grandma asked us 566 00:33:25,275 --> 00:33:27,775 to look for Shirley and bring her home. 567 00:33:27,778 --> 00:33:31,008 And for all the traditional people who understand, 568 00:33:31,011 --> 00:33:33,181 when you make a promise to the old people, 569 00:33:33,183 --> 00:33:37,593 you do your darndest to make sure you fulfill 570 00:33:37,588 --> 00:33:40,518 that promise you´ve made to them. 571 00:33:40,521 --> 00:33:41,721 And I carry it on. 572 00:33:41,722 --> 00:33:48,262 ♫♫ 573 00:33:48,258 --> 00:33:52,328 A lot of people don´t want to talk about these things. 574 00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:55,342 But in order to bring their spirit back to them, 575 00:33:55,335 --> 00:33:57,565 we need to acknowledge them. 576 00:33:57,568 --> 00:34:02,538 We need to ensure that we are doing our utmost 577 00:34:02,543 --> 00:34:04,723 to give them a voice. 578 00:34:04,715 --> 00:34:12,475 ♫♫ 579 00:34:12,482 --> 00:34:20,262 ♫♫ 580 00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:27,840 ♫♫ 581 00:34:27,838 --> 00:34:35,608 ♫♫ 582 00:34:35,606 --> 00:34:37,176 My name is Gina Wrather, 583 00:34:37,177 --> 00:34:40,377 and I am a volunteer with the DNA Doe Project. 584 00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:43,680 The DNA Doe project was started in 2017. 585 00:34:43,684 --> 00:34:45,664 We´re a nonprofit organization. 586 00:34:45,656 --> 00:34:49,386 We work with law-enforcement agencies 587 00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:52,089 to identify John and Jane Does 588 00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:56,832 through the use of DNA and investigative genetic genealogy. 589 00:34:56,827 --> 00:34:58,667 Reporter: Plastered across these walls, 590 00:34:58,669 --> 00:35:01,169 questions that go for dozens of families 591 00:35:01,171 --> 00:35:04,541 not knowing what happened to missing loved ones for years, 592 00:35:04,535 --> 00:35:06,575 sometimes decades. 593 00:35:06,577 --> 00:35:10,607 Gina: Our founders realized the same technology 594 00:35:10,611 --> 00:35:14,111 and the same methods that are used to identify 595 00:35:14,114 --> 00:35:17,494 birth parents of adoptees could be used to identify 596 00:35:17,487 --> 00:35:20,117 these John and Jane Does. 597 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,350 We don´t give up on any cases, 598 00:35:22,352 --> 00:35:25,162 but it doesn´t matter if it costs 10 hours 599 00:35:25,155 --> 00:35:26,655 or it costs 10,000 hours 600 00:35:26,657 --> 00:35:29,457 because we all volunteer our time. 601 00:35:29,459 --> 00:35:31,699 If your DNA is out there, 602 00:35:31,702 --> 00:35:34,512 could it potentially solve a case? 603 00:35:34,505 --> 00:35:36,235 Sure. 604 00:35:36,236 --> 00:35:43,236 ♫♫ 605 00:35:43,243 --> 00:35:47,223 I became a crime junkie just watching all these programs, 606 00:35:47,217 --> 00:35:49,547 listening to podcasts. 607 00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:55,190 I watched them identify the Golden State killer. 608 00:35:56,326 --> 00:35:58,156 Reporter: This morning, new details 609 00:35:58,158 --> 00:35:59,688 of the rigorous investigation 610 00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:02,390 that detectives say brought down the Golden State Killer 611 00:36:02,392 --> 00:36:06,202 more than 40 years after his alleged killing spree began. 612 00:36:06,196 --> 00:36:08,566 Law-enforcement sources telling ABC News 613 00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:10,269 they used a genealogy website 614 00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:12,800 to help connect Joseph DeAngelo´s DNA 615 00:36:12,803 --> 00:36:15,313 to past crime scenes, taking that evidence 616 00:36:15,305 --> 00:36:17,545 and then comparing it with family members 617 00:36:17,548 --> 00:36:21,578 within the online database until they found their suspect. 618 00:36:21,582 --> 00:36:26,562 Violet: The idea that they found this individual 619 00:36:26,557 --> 00:36:29,487 who did the whole DNA thing. 620 00:36:29,489 --> 00:36:35,429 Watching that program, I´m like, "Oh, my word, here it is. 621 00:36:35,425 --> 00:36:40,325 You know, here it is. This -- this can really help." 622 00:36:40,330 --> 00:36:45,240 So I did research my DNA, our family genealogy, 623 00:36:45,235 --> 00:36:50,575 and then my friend put it up on ancestry.com. 624 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:54,692 But nobody said anything. 625 00:37:01,251 --> 00:37:04,421 In 2016, I joined the task force 626 00:37:04,424 --> 00:37:07,704 for the Golden State Killer investigation. 627 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:12,929 Genetic genealogy is taking suspect DNA 628 00:37:12,933 --> 00:37:15,943 and building the suspect´s family tree 629 00:37:15,936 --> 00:37:21,306 in an attempt to identify him and his relatives. 630 00:37:21,311 --> 00:37:25,981 When I saw the success from identifying Joe DeAngelo 631 00:37:25,976 --> 00:37:28,246 as the Golden State Killer, 632 00:37:28,248 --> 00:37:33,678 I returned home and applied it to Jane Doe Kern County. 633 00:37:33,684 --> 00:37:35,534 Steve called me one day and said, 634 00:37:35,526 --> 00:37:38,286 "You know, I think maybe we need to consider 635 00:37:38,288 --> 00:37:40,588 doing genealogy DNA." 636 00:37:41,832 --> 00:37:43,962 I had Jane Doe Kern, 637 00:37:43,964 --> 00:37:47,774 but the part that was missing was I didn´t have a specimen. 638 00:37:47,768 --> 00:37:50,968 We had no specimens that survived from 1980. 639 00:37:50,971 --> 00:37:53,671 So I thought about it and decided 640 00:37:53,674 --> 00:37:58,984 that maybe we could try to get a DNA specimen 641 00:37:58,979 --> 00:38:02,309 from the clothing worn at the crime scene. 642 00:38:02,312 --> 00:38:05,062 It was very degraded. 643 00:38:05,055 --> 00:38:07,885 But eventually, 644 00:38:07,888 --> 00:38:12,058 the crime lab was able to get something to the lab. 645 00:38:12,062 --> 00:38:15,602 They were looking for volunteers on this particular case, 646 00:38:15,596 --> 00:38:18,326 and so I put my name on it. 647 00:38:18,328 --> 00:38:22,998 When we originally uploaded her, I think we had 648 00:38:23,003 --> 00:38:29,883 19 visible matches, which is minuscule, 649 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,620 and we were able to look at her ethnicity right away. 650 00:38:35,616 --> 00:38:40,046 She was more likely to be indigenous 651 00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:42,350 than she was to be Hispanic. 652 00:38:42,352 --> 00:38:48,032 So we started looking at the indigenous Facebook groups 653 00:38:48,028 --> 00:38:51,358 and started appealing to them. 654 00:38:51,361 --> 00:38:53,101 Steve: I want to put a name on her grave. 655 00:38:53,103 --> 00:38:55,613 I wanted to send her back to her family. 656 00:38:55,606 --> 00:38:57,066 That´s where she belongs. 657 00:38:57,067 --> 00:38:59,607 Her family deserves to know what became of her. 658 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:01,940 And is that obsessive? 659 00:39:01,942 --> 00:39:05,422 No, I don´t think so. It just comes with the job. 660 00:39:07,077 --> 00:39:08,717 Are you getting impatient? 661 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,779 I think I´ll solve it. I just don´t know when. 662 00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:13,481 It´s a difficult case. 663 00:39:13,483 --> 00:39:15,063 It´s actually rewarding for me 664 00:39:15,055 --> 00:39:17,125 to watch him do what he does. 665 00:39:17,127 --> 00:39:18,827 I don´t think anybody realizes 666 00:39:18,829 --> 00:39:21,959 how serious he takes his work 667 00:39:21,962 --> 00:39:24,602 and how dedicated he is to it. 668 00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:26,695 He gets phone calls 669 00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:29,037 from the time he gets home during the night. 670 00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:30,869 8:30, 9:00. 671 00:39:30,871 --> 00:39:32,441 Doesn´t matter if it´s holiday. 672 00:39:32,442 --> 00:39:34,042 It doesn´t matter if it´s a weekend. 673 00:39:34,044 --> 00:39:35,984 Somebody is always calling him, 674 00:39:35,976 --> 00:39:38,106 and he´s always answering the phone. 675 00:39:38,108 --> 00:39:40,378 He sleeps it, breathes it, everything. 676 00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:43,050 He´s very dedicated to his victims. 677 00:39:43,053 --> 00:39:45,493 Two birthdays in a row I missed 678 00:39:45,485 --> 00:39:46,985 because of murder. 679 00:39:46,987 --> 00:39:48,817 Mickey has always been supportive 680 00:39:48,819 --> 00:39:50,489 of everything that I´ve done. 681 00:39:50,490 --> 00:39:52,990 She does accuse me of knowing more about crime 682 00:39:52,993 --> 00:39:57,403 than I do about household responsibilities. 683 00:39:57,397 --> 00:39:58,797 But -- And she´s right. 684 00:39:58,799 --> 00:40:00,929 If I had to balance a checkbook, 685 00:40:00,931 --> 00:40:02,471 I wouldn´t be able to. 686 00:40:02,472 --> 00:40:10,982 ♫♫ 687 00:40:10,981 --> 00:40:15,451 Gina: We had a breakthrough moment in September 2019. 688 00:40:15,445 --> 00:40:19,015 We had a new match at GEDmatch. 689 00:40:20,951 --> 00:40:24,901 She was within the second-cousin range 690 00:40:24,895 --> 00:40:26,825 and of her great grandparents, 691 00:40:26,827 --> 00:40:31,727 only one great grandparent was indigenous. 692 00:40:31,732 --> 00:40:35,142 And so we said, "We´re on the right track here." 693 00:40:35,135 --> 00:40:38,005 Once we identified the great grandfather, 694 00:40:38,008 --> 00:40:44,518 we knew he lived his entire life in the Maskwacis area. 695 00:40:46,116 --> 00:40:48,746 His children lived their entire lives there. 696 00:40:48,749 --> 00:40:51,219 His grandchildren lived their entire lives there. 697 00:40:51,221 --> 00:40:56,161 So we knew someone there very likely knew who she was. 698 00:40:58,458 --> 00:41:00,788 This case really was a roller coaster 699 00:41:00,791 --> 00:41:04,131 because at times, I felt like 700 00:41:04,134 --> 00:41:06,804 "We´re just not gonna solve this one." 701 00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:14,579 There hadn´t been an indigenous identification to date. 702 00:41:14,575 --> 00:41:20,575 They´re underrepresented in the testing databases. 703 00:41:20,581 --> 00:41:23,781 They´ve had their history erased. 704 00:41:23,784 --> 00:41:27,624 And so in February 2020, 705 00:41:27,618 --> 00:41:31,918 we did one more appeal in the indigenous Facebook groups. 706 00:41:31,922 --> 00:41:33,722 "We need everybody to share this 707 00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:36,874 and we need everybody to look at this face. 708 00:41:36,867 --> 00:41:39,767 And we need you to consider, you know, 709 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:44,130 if this could have been someone that you knew in 1980." 710 00:41:50,581 --> 00:41:57,121 Violet: I felt I exhausted every avenue to find my auntie. 711 00:41:57,117 --> 00:42:01,787 And so, at a woman´s gathering in Calgary, 712 00:42:01,792 --> 00:42:06,302 I informed a group of women that I lost my aunt 713 00:42:06,296 --> 00:42:09,556 and she´s been missing since 1979. 714 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,960 And I made a promise to my grandmother 715 00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:17,814 that I would find her and bring her home. 716 00:42:17,808 --> 00:42:20,868 I was at the end of my rope. 717 00:42:22,913 --> 00:42:26,753 Four days later, boom. Facebook. 718 00:42:26,747 --> 00:42:28,877 Oh, my God. 719 00:42:28,879 --> 00:42:32,949 My friend, she said, "Go on Facebook. 720 00:42:32,953 --> 00:42:36,993 They found a woman who is from Maskwacis." 721 00:42:36,987 --> 00:42:40,787 And so I went into Facebook and I logged on 722 00:42:40,791 --> 00:42:45,241 and I´m like, "That´s her. This is her." 723 00:42:49,269 --> 00:42:52,599 Gina: I got a phone call from Violet and she said, 724 00:42:52,603 --> 00:42:54,273 "I think this is my aunt." 725 00:42:54,274 --> 00:42:58,614 And as she was describing the circumstances, 726 00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:00,609 it sounded more and more likely. 727 00:43:00,611 --> 00:43:04,891 The defining factor was a DNA comparison. 728 00:43:04,885 --> 00:43:08,685 And so I asked Violet had she DNA-tested anywhere? 729 00:43:08,689 --> 00:43:10,189 And she said, "Yes." 730 00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:13,660 We have to have testers to download their DNA data 731 00:43:13,664 --> 00:43:17,174 to their own computer and upload that to GEDmatch. 732 00:43:17,167 --> 00:43:20,827 And that was the step that Violet had been missing. 733 00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:24,071 So she said, "I will upload to GEDmatch." 734 00:43:24,074 --> 00:43:29,614 When I was sitting in front of the computer uploading my DNA, 735 00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:33,640 that became my last-minute dealt, you know? 736 00:43:33,644 --> 00:43:36,324 Like, what if it isn´t, you know, 737 00:43:36,316 --> 00:43:38,746 versus when I first saw the picture, right? 738 00:43:38,749 --> 00:43:41,349 And I was so -- "This is her." 739 00:43:41,351 --> 00:43:43,251 It was so positive. 740 00:43:43,253 --> 00:43:46,263 Gina: And so walked her through. 741 00:43:46,256 --> 00:43:47,826 She uploaded. 742 00:43:47,828 --> 00:43:50,128 I did the 1-to-1 comparison. 743 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,100 [ Beeping ] 744 00:43:52,102 --> 00:43:58,272 ♫♫ 745 00:43:58,268 --> 00:44:02,068 And I said, "Violet, this is your aunt." 746 00:44:05,075 --> 00:44:07,375 It was the most emotional moment 747 00:44:07,377 --> 00:44:14,217 in my entire DNA Doe Project experience. 748 00:44:14,224 --> 00:44:16,234 She didn´t say anything. 749 00:44:16,226 --> 00:44:18,756 It was raw emotion. 750 00:44:18,759 --> 00:44:21,889 It was -- It wasn´t words. It was sound. 751 00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:26,142 ♫♫ 752 00:44:26,136 --> 00:44:28,936 Yeah. I felt it. 753 00:44:31,872 --> 00:44:33,372 I think I lost it. 754 00:44:35,075 --> 00:44:39,375 I don´t know if I screamed or cried or laughed or whatever. 755 00:44:39,379 --> 00:44:42,109 I mean, I must have sounded insane to her, 756 00:44:42,112 --> 00:44:44,312 but I have to excuse myself, you know? 757 00:44:44,314 --> 00:44:47,124 And I went into -- into my bedroom 758 00:44:47,117 --> 00:44:50,387 and I screamed into my pillow and then I came out. 759 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:53,860 [ Laughing ] 760 00:44:53,864 --> 00:44:55,904 I went through so many emotions. 761 00:44:55,896 --> 00:44:59,726 You know, it´s like a whole 762 00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:01,970 30 years of emotions that just came -- 763 00:45:01,972 --> 00:45:05,042 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom -- right after the other. 764 00:45:08,108 --> 00:45:10,308 Gina: It was grief. 765 00:45:10,310 --> 00:45:13,710 It was relief. 766 00:45:13,714 --> 00:45:18,754 But she kept saying, "I kept my promise. 767 00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:22,819 I found you. I kept my promise." 768 00:45:22,823 --> 00:45:30,003 ♫♫ 769 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,260 ♫♫ 770 00:45:33,263 --> 00:45:34,843 Violet: The hardest, of course, 771 00:45:34,835 --> 00:45:38,205 was hearing about how she -- she had passed. 772 00:45:38,208 --> 00:45:42,168 That´s really painful. 773 00:45:42,172 --> 00:45:46,322 She made it someway, somehow to California. 774 00:45:48,448 --> 00:45:50,748 I don´t know what happened. 775 00:45:52,853 --> 00:45:55,793 Sad that we found her in that way, 776 00:45:55,786 --> 00:46:00,526 but glad that we´re able to bring her home. 777 00:46:00,531 --> 00:46:02,991 Reporter: Tonight, breaking news from the sheriff´s office. 778 00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:06,503 At long last, we finally know the name of the woman 779 00:46:06,496 --> 00:46:09,466 left for dead four decades ago. 780 00:46:09,469 --> 00:46:11,269 A victim whose identity was unknown 781 00:46:11,271 --> 00:46:13,341 even after her killer was sent to prison. 782 00:46:13,343 --> 00:46:16,483 Shirley Soosay was finally identified when her niece Violet 783 00:46:16,476 --> 00:46:19,006 came across a post by the DNA Doe Project. 784 00:46:21,311 --> 00:46:23,511 Steve: A lot of work has gone into a case, 785 00:46:23,514 --> 00:46:26,964 a lot of late nights to get to this goal. 786 00:46:26,957 --> 00:46:29,457 And the goal was to get justice for our victim. 787 00:46:29,459 --> 00:46:33,189 When Shirley was identified, I reached out to Violet. 788 00:46:33,193 --> 00:46:34,973 It was good to talk to her. 789 00:46:34,965 --> 00:46:37,195 I enjoyed knowing that she knew 790 00:46:37,197 --> 00:46:39,827 that someone was in Shirley´s corner. 791 00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:44,100 That gives me a sense of, "This is what I´m supposed to do." 792 00:46:44,104 --> 00:46:47,384 Steve Rhods -- He didn´t give up her, 793 00:46:47,377 --> 00:46:50,237 and I love him for that. 794 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,110 He has a special place within our family. 795 00:46:54,114 --> 00:46:58,424 So has Dawn Ratliff and Gina -- 796 00:46:58,418 --> 00:47:02,018 The DNA Doe Project. 797 00:47:02,022 --> 00:47:06,602 You know, thinking I was doing this by myself. 798 00:47:06,597 --> 00:47:08,357 Little did I know there were others 799 00:47:08,358 --> 00:47:12,258 who were doing the same thing and we just had to meet. 800 00:47:14,264 --> 00:47:17,274 They were trying to find her identity. 801 00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:20,037 I was trying to find my auntie. 802 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,070 Knowing that I really wasn´t alone... 803 00:47:24,214 --> 00:47:25,984 ...that´s so comforting. 804 00:47:28,148 --> 00:47:31,418 People do care. 805 00:47:31,421 --> 00:47:35,361 And my free-spirited auntie is coming home. 806 00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:40,125 ♫♫ 807 00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:42,560 Reporter: This moment is 40 years in the making. 808 00:47:42,563 --> 00:47:48,043 A tearful and joyous homecoming for a woman who died years ago. 809 00:47:48,038 --> 00:47:49,598 Her remains were brought to a funeral home 810 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,300 in Wetaskiwin, where she was met by Violet 811 00:47:52,302 --> 00:47:53,872 and bikers from Maskwacis 812 00:47:53,874 --> 00:47:56,414 to escort Shirley the rest of the way home. 813 00:47:56,406 --> 00:47:59,276 Now that Shirley can properly be laid to rest, 814 00:47:59,279 --> 00:48:01,909 Violet can also finally rest. 815 00:48:01,912 --> 00:48:04,922 No more uncertainties. 816 00:48:04,915 --> 00:48:08,585 We are certain that she´s home now. 817 00:48:08,589 --> 00:48:16,599 ♫♫ 818 00:48:16,597 --> 00:48:26,007 ♫♫ 819 00:48:26,006 --> 00:48:34,176 ♫♫ 820 00:48:34,184 --> 00:48:42,554 ♫♫ 821 00:48:42,553 --> 00:48:45,003 ♫♫ 60259

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